The Livy Method Podcast - Spill the Tea - Fall 2025: Week 7 with Loretta Lyons

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

In this episode of Spill the Tea, Gina welcomes Loretta Lyons, a mom of three from New Brunswick who’s lost 35 pounds on The Program. Loretta opens up about how her weight gain began unexpectedly after being diagnosed with hypothyroidism, and how juggling life as a parent of 3 young children added to the load—mentally, physically, and emotionally. Despite a late start in her first group, Loretta saw real progress and eventually turned to a nurse practitioner and pelvic health specialist for added support. Ready to lose her next 40, she shares what it’s been like to shift from exhaustion and stress to feeling energized and confident in her body again.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodfall2025To learn more about the Livy Method, visit www.livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy, and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams for my 91-day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on ACAST, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple, and Amazon Music.

I'm living a really happy relationship with my body. My confidence is through the roof. Every day on this program, I learn something new. I have tools now. I never had them before. Gosh, I love these segments. I mean, I actually get to chat with our guests behind the scenes before we pop on in.

Ah, my goodness, I'm honestly so grateful. that people come on and, you know, share their journey. Also, just put it in written form. And I want to remind you with all of our guests, you can hit their poster that we posted in the group and read over their journey. It'll give you mad respect for them coming on and taking the time to share. Today, my guest is Loretta Lyons. She is 47.

She is a mom of three from Williamsburg, New Brunswick. Her first program was in the fall of 23. She did six full programs plus the summer session and is currently in our eighth round. And what's really interesting about her story is her first program she didn't start

until about three weeks in and still ended up losing 18 pounds. I've been very successful, obviously 35 pounds down with a program and now she's been maintaining her weight for about a year. And after her weight got stuck, she went to seek out a nurse practitioner to help her figure what's going on, a pelvic

health specialist because she does have her health issues. And now she is back focusing on reaching her goal of 40 more. So let's not waste another minute. Let's bring her on. Here is Loretta. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm doing great. So excited to be here. I love your comment, your little quote about exercise. Yeah.

I don't remember what it was. It's just about wanting to and feeling. Oh, yes. Yeah. Like it's amazing once you start getting energy back. And you may never have had the urge. to move your body like I didn't have that for a long time and then all of a sudden it was just there and I was like ooh I have so much energy like I need to do something so yeah you start slow and

slow and steady no I I want to talk about your your journey with the living method but I think we got to do some laying of the foundation um here and so you're married you've been married for a while high school sweetheart yeah um you had three children you got you they were not easy pregnancies, but you were able to quite easily lose the weight after each one. So it's not like you were, you know, I know you mentioned that, you know, you were maybe carrying a little extra weight when you were younger because you were quite tall, maybe a little awkward. And then, you know, you lost that weight.

So it's not like there's been a lot of struggle there for you weight-wise, would you say? No, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Okay. Just laying the backstreet. You know, a lot of people I talk to just have histories of diets after diets after diets after diets. And I think it's important to note that you don't have kind of that similar background when it comes to diets. No, I, yeah, I don't.

My weight, like after I had my third baby, I was home on maternity leave, had three little babies, basically at home. My husband was working on the road. You know, he'd come home late Thursday night and he'd be gone again early Monday morning. We had two of our kids played hockey and soccer. Sometime when my baby was a couple of years old, a year or whatever, two years, I realized there was something else going on, seeing my doctor, told me I had hypothyroidism after blood work and lots of stuff going on. And I fought him for a long time because I did not want to go on medication every day.

it was just one more thing to remember i didn't want to do that eventually um i did he said there were some words that um you never really want to hear and i it took me so i was like okay just give it to me i'll do it um and it was after that that i started putting on weight i hadn't been but i did start to put on weight um and then a whole bunch of stuff happened like I kicked a soccer ball in the back, in the backyard for my oldest son, threw my back out. I'm going to find out, I actually do have some issues with my back, but I had no idea. There was no, nothing beforehand that would say I had an issue with my back. I would kick that darn soccer ball.

And pretty sure, you know, three babies, I was starting to have some pelvic floor issues. And I think about this time, maybe things were starting to, like my hormones, maybe were getting out of whack. When I was writing up my bio, I was like, wow, a lot of stuff happened as I was between like 30 and 35. Like there was a lot of stuff going on. I wonder if it's all connected in some way. So like my brain's been going crazy since I wrote up my bio.

I put on like 100 pounds. I have an office job. I sit all the time. I was a hockey mom running the roads, eating fast food, quick food. Stress was up, you know, all-time high, three babies, single parenting, basically. And on the go, go, go all the time.

So 100 pounds later, kind of COVID hit all at that time. There was so many things. Okay, I thought you were going to say something. No, I just think this, you know, It's interesting. I spoke to someone today who I'm helping. And, you know, I'm like, okay, why do you think, you know, you've gained this weight? What's other underlying issues? Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And I started asking them about their lives and when their weight

issues started and then what happened and what they've been through in life. And there was a point that I'm like, I realize that as she was talking, she was actually realizing. And she said to me, whoa, now that I'm saying this out loud, it's starting to all make sense. And this is why, you know, when I say to people, I know you've done eight programs, you probably heard me say, go back and track, like, try to get a sense of how you got here today and your history with your weight and your history with dieting and your life. A lot of times our weight has increased, not just because we were, didn't have willpower, dealing with some really severe trauma in our lives, health issues in our lives, circumstances in our lives where we don't really realize.

And so it's just, it's such a, I think you're reminding us all. It's really great practice. to understand how you got here. And one, that probably shows you a lot of compassion. But also, you know, you got to a place where your weight just wasn't moving. And then you're like, okay, let me figure out what I need to do with this. So I just, I just think it's a good reminder for people, a great practice to write out your, what is your weight story, you know? Yeah. That's, while I was waiting to come out onto the live, that was one of the things that I had just wrote down was everybody should write down their journey.

and reflect on where they're where they've come from and where they are now like it's amazing when you just start thinking about that because if you're in every day just doing what you do you know you get up you go to work or you do whatever you fill your day one way or another and you just don't think about it um yeah yeah this was this was eye opening after i take it all up and sent it over. I was like, wow. Well, I had a lot going on. And that's it, right? I'll say, well, what's your stress like on, you know, one to 10? And people are like, I'm fine. I manage my stress. I'm okay. I'm like, no, no, no, no. Give me a number. Like, give me specific about what's going on. So you had a lot going at the time. So you had, you were able to, you know, lose your

weight after having your kids. And then you're probably noticing stress going on in your life, diagnosed with hypothyroidism and in 2012 and then gradually gained over 100 pounds in 10 years. Yeah. And it was just, you know, the first couple of years, I was like, oh, yeah, well, that's, I'm back to work. I'm not myself when I was on my maternity leave. I was very active, you know, and I was making time to exercise throughout the day and being active with the children and then whatever. and then life gets in the way and work gets in the way and that wasn't happening anymore.

But after a couple of years, I was like, wow, like, what is happening? But it just kept, life doesn't stop. So, you know, you're in this roller coaster and I had a couple of issues with my back where it completely, like I was not able to do anything. Like I can remember I would get up in the morning, my husband would be gone and, trying to get the babies ready to get out of the house so I could get to work and I'd be on my hands and knees because I could not stand up, be on my hand and knees trying to pack lunches and whatever and then eventually get up, get the other two, get one on the bus,

get the other two out to daycare. I can, like, I even, the very first time that my back was hurting, I would come, I came to work and I would, every half hour, I was like, ooh, a yoga on the floor and I would lay and, you know, and I didn't know that I should be icing my back or there were certain stretches that you could be doing or whatever. And eventually I had enough of that and started seeking help for that. I decided you get lax with your routine and think, oh, I'm good. Things can happen again. So it was a mad cycle. I, yeah, there was, a lot of hard, physically hard things that I had, that I went through to kind of get here. So, you know, and these are the things that we're dealing with that.

We don't even like take into account when we're trying to lose weight, for example, right? Like we just like, carry on, you know, worry about what we're eating and not factor these things. And then you, you maybe have come to the conclusion that your, your pelvic health issues might be tied into what's going on with your back too. Right. Yes, I think they could be, potentially. The vertebraes that I have issues with are in my lower back and kind of lower back tailbone type thing.

And having three babies and training, you know, I'm doing all of the good things and retraining my bladder to do the bad things. you know so it's been i i have after one of the episodes um or one of the segments here in i don't know the spring probably of 2024 there was the pelvic floor physiotherapist on and i listened to her and i listened to that again and again and i was like wow i wonder if i have one of those in my area and i did so i went to her and um i think i did five or six sessions and it was it was really good the same thing if I remember to do what I'm supposed to do it works fantastic but once it starts working you forget that it you forget that it was broken or that it needed some assistance so I kind of ends in flow that way listen I hear you I have a bad back and you know when I'm in

pain I'm like swearing oh my god I will do everything to fix it and then I start feeling good and I'm you know I get lax on my walks and my stretches and doing my thing I think I'm in invincible again until I am also reminded that I have dropped the ball in the things. And we all do that. I love where you're at now because you lost, you know, 35 pounds, give it time on the program. You have been able to maintain and sustain your weight for a year. That in itself is huge. Like that is so huge.

And you went on, you have gone on to seek why you are having a harder time continuing to lose the rest. And so what are you finding out? So I did have some food sensitivities. I went to a naturopath and did some testing. I did have some food sensitivity. So we've addressed those. I have started on, I wasn't taking any supplements or anything,

not even a multivitamin. When I first started this program, taking my usual meds were lots of Advil, neproxin, and muscle relaxers. Like I, you know, so I'm trying not. to take that hardly ever anymore but I've done the basic supplements had an issue with the magnesium but I think I've figured that out after this last conversation like one of the conversations earlier on in this program where they said magnesium is your base if you're not

taking magnesium the other ones probably aren't working yeah so anyway if I figured that out now I think that's going well um yeah so I've started I've joined a gym I've been there for over a year go two or three times a week, usually, and two or three classes of the night, usually. What else do we do? I've added in a bunch of supplements. I do exercise. I drink tons of water. Tons of water.

And the only thing that I'm still struggling with is the stress. Like my work life is very, very stressful. We're starting to go into another phase of even more. Like, it's been nonstop since I started the program, which is why I started three weeks late getting into it because I just couldn't seem to find even the time to go into the app and even get the app set up. Like, and then I did. I was three weeks behind, but I was still, I was still successful. And the program after that, it was successful. Yeah.

You know, I find it's interesting. And maybe overstepping on this, but you were resistant to taking thyroid medication. going to see your doctor when you you know you're dealing with a lot of pain and stress and whatever and was there a reason like looking back that you were like resistant to doing that because now you seem like so proactive in your care and I know I know for various reasons sometimes people are nervous about you know going to their doctors you know taking the medical route like wanting to seek answers like how'd you go from that to this um so initially I've always been fairly healthy.

Like, no, I don't go wood. I don't typically get sick. I'll get the cold. I have allergies year round, but I'll get a cold usually in the winter, but I'm not typically sick. So never really had to take anything.

And when he was saying, no, you need to take this pill and you need to take it every day at the same time on an empty stomach and you're going to have to take it for the rest of your life. I was like, no, I'm not. you know like what else can i do you know if i need to eat a certain way like because at that time i was running all crazy and whatever if i need to um eat change the way i'm eating tell me i'll do

that if i need to exercise tell me i will do this like i and like fought for a while um with him about that and he just kept saying no like you're you need to take this we need to get your thyroid in check and I'm not sure how long I fought him. I was going to see if he would look back and see when he started recommending to me. But I was like, no, we probably don't want to revisit that. So eventually he just said, if you don't take this medication, you know, you're going to die. Like basically. So I, as a mom with small children at home, that is not something that you want to hear.

So I was like, okay, then give me it, send it to the pharmacy, I'll go pick it up. So, and I did, and he monitored every six weeks. I was going for blood work, probably more for me, my sake than his, because he knew how I was feeling about that. So now I only do, I go every three months now. My levels have improved greatly. And I go for blood work again at the end of the year. I'm hoping at that appointment. will be able to decrease the dose again.

So that has been improving since I joined the program. But I guess at that time, you know, you're in your early 30s. You're not thinking, oh, you know, 15 years or so, you're going to be a hot mess and things are going to start to go sideways. You're going to want to be, you want this body in the best shape and then the most healthiest version of you not thinking that when you're 30 years old it's so true it's so true are you starting to notice that the menopause the the terry menopods hitting you 47 have you you noticed that factoring in i didn't so much um but this round i am starting to their error

i mean i've had brain fophoog but i just blamed that on just basically getting older but And I didn't realize all of the symptoms that there could have been for perimenopause. Like, I just thought I was going to get cranky and have hot flashes, you know, and at my period stop. There was parts of that I was looking forward to the brain fog, the temperature and whatever. I don't necessarily have hot flashes, but I am hot right now. like you probably i i can't tell for sure in the camera but i feel like i look like i'm flushed and i am it is warm in this office or else i'm just nervous and excited i don't know but yeah so not a whole lot of the perimenopause stuff but it's coming i i know there's

been a few things pop up but i was like oh yeah oh yeah that's one of the symptoms okay good i'm on this i'm gonna radar this right and and that could be factoring into you know what's been going on with you and it's that this is this is though working with your body not against your body right i was actually just talking to a doctor today about menopause and talking about how it starts with your brain so much earlier like 10 years before you go into perimenopause your brain is already you know kind of transitioning and that's where you first start to notice but then we just you know we blow it off as other things um where are you at like how what's your outlook now i know you want to lose 40 more pounds what you're what's your outlook on losing

40 more pounds. So I'm big and I've always been big why I don't know but I always like to self-sabotage myself. I don't like anybody telling me what to do and if I'm doing something and it seems to be working

I need to test everything out just to see if it really is going to be working. So I, you know, I have gone on vendors on the weekend and ate everything I could see. I've drank all I could get my hands on. Like, you know, and I've, there's been a couple of programs where I absolutely did self-sabotage and the scale

reflected that. Like, you know, I gained while I was doing some things. But it was, it was me to be like, ah, is this working? Is this not? Like, how far can I push it? What's going to happen if I do this? And this is the good thing about the program is that it's easy to get back on track. The meal plan, the basic food plan is so easy.

And you feel so much better when you're on it. Like, I don't know why I think that I need to test that. But I'm over the testing part mostly. Yes. Yeah. How did you get to that? I love that you said that. You know, I'm like I know my own ass accountable.

And sometimes it's hard to take a good look at what you're doing and come into these really real realizations. And sometimes we're trying to prove ourselves right, even though it's that like our negative. We're trying to prove like, oh, yeah, I knew it. This wasn't going to work for me. But meanwhile, it doesn't work for me because I'm sabotaging the shit out of myself. How did you know you were doing that? Like, how did you get to this place where you're like, yeah, that's exactly what I was doing? I'm not sure.

I don't know. I just knew. Like, I would do something and then I'd be, well, why would you do that? Like, you didn't want that chocolate butter. Why would you, why would you sit meet that? You're not hungry. like or I don't yeah the eating part is the easy way to notice the self-sabotage in my world so you know and I know that I can I can have bits and bites and that's fine but you don't

need to make like chocolate cake like last year for my birthday my birthday is the middle of May right by the long weekend well I decided I need to have cake every day like oh I got a brick the cake on it for me I'm going to eat the whole thing and I'd be sick but in my like and I was like you don't why are you doing this and it was like a struggle between my I feel so embarrassed kind of like it was a struggle my brain was saying like why are you doing this but my body just had its own way it was doing its own thing and I knew I was going to regret it I knew I was going to feel awful um and it's not even that I would feel like I was feeling deprived or anything like that because I'm not you you the foods that you eat you feel so good like your body just feels so good

it thrives on it so so self-sabotage is still is still lingering there like to just show itself every once in a while um but so I work hard on that and I know um like a cup like Sue moyer is in the group and um we chat back and forth usually every morning in the check-in. but she's always saying like pause, you know, slow down and pause. So I've really been working hard at trying to just in general, like just slow down, pause if things are getting kind of crazy, you can feel things start to go sideways, try to pull it back, try to figure out. And I mean, and I'm absolutely not perfect at that.

That is still a huge work in progress for me. But just acknowledging this. and trying to figure it why. I'm not sure why, Bill, why I would do this, but I do. So, you know, it is what it is. You'd have to move on and on to the next, try and get back on track. I think this is really inspiring because I think so many people are recognized, will recognize themselves at the beginning of that stage.

I mean, like, what's wrong with me? Like, what's going on with me? And then look for other reasons why it's not working for them, right? and you don't even have to know how you got here. It's just, it's, you know, I think it provides a lot of hope for people that you can get there too, right? And you still don't have it all figured out. But do we ever have it figured out, right?

Like it's just inching forward and getting closer to your goals. And then these are like the things that like your thoughts and your feels when I say to people that pop up, these are the things that you need to work on. And it's truly different for everybody. Did you journal? Were you just talking to yourself? Like, was there anything like? that was like this was super helpful um i talked to myself a lot i'm not sure i would actually

recommend that or i do too just so you know i like a big um but i've i've been trying to journal um i'm not sure what was going on even now i think here's aunt perry um coming and i can't remember what it was what was going on like just a couple of weeks ago and somebody somebody in the group was just like just try journaling try journaling try journaling try journaling so I have tried it but I was always just like I don't know where to start with the journaling even if I had journal props in front of me and I think it's just that I didn't have to stop stop and just be calm and just let just start to start journaling just start writing start writing about your day like kind of just a brain dump so I've been trying it hasn't been

consistently every single day but I do carry it with me I'll pull it it out at work, I'll pull it out at home. So that, I think, will hopefully progress into something that I can do every day and maybe it will help reflect and bring to light some, you know, if the self-sabotage instances happen when certain things are going on in my life, you know, or it happens when it's in certain parts of my cycle like you I don't know there's so many so many variations of what it could be I have like I have no idea so hopefully hoping that I can stay consistent no you don't you don't know why right and I so I want to stay on this for a second because I think you know where I like you know

could be what fear of failure fear of success you know maybe you don't feel worthy maybe you're waiting for the shoe to drop and have everything taken away that was a big thing for me for a really long time. Like, I would ruin things before they were ruined out of fear of them being ruined because that way, at least I ruined them. Right. And so you don't know yet. And it's a combination of all of those things that you've just mentioned.

And I know that as you're saying it. I'm like, yeah, do you want to fail? No, you don't want to fail. Do we fail? Everybody failed. Like, so I don't know what that is. I am the oldest child in the family. And I know you read up on that sometimes,

the pressures fall to that oldest child that you're trying to live up to. I never thought I had any of those issues. Maybe I do. I have no idea. I remember one time I was walking on her treadmill and I was watching this thing. Jamie Kernlema. I don't know if you know her. She wrote that book, Worthy.

And I was just watching some, she had a big day long, had a bunch of guests on and was talking about Worthy. you know, I'm walking along thinking I don't have problems with being worthy. I'm successful. I'm this. I'm that. I deserving and whatever. And then when I just actually let it get me to the core, I was like, holy.

Like I do not feel worthy and deserving. And I always thought that if you didn't feel worthy and deserving, you weren't successful and couldn't do anything in life. And that hit me like a ton of bricks. That was a big one. Yeah. I'm still working on that one. Right. And the thing is that we know we're not perfect.

Nobody's perfect. You still want to strive to be as the very best that you can. So, yeah, I think your failure is there for sure. And if this is going to fail, I'm going to be the one. I want to be in control. You like to control things. I want to be in control of how this ship is going to sink. Like, I'm going to be the captain.

I'm just going to run a right on to shore. but luckily it hasn't completely crashed and just lit apart. You know, I'm still there. I'll patch the holes and I'm just going to keep on, get my little rose out and keep on rattling out and get going again. But, yeah, so I guess, you know, when I'm feeling down, you have those moments, too, where you're just like, oh, like, I just don't feel like, I just want to just not do things. So, you know, that's where sometimes that self-sabotage comes in. But if I always just find, if I can get out into the sunshine, that will completely change my day around.

Or just throw my ear buds in, listen to some music, music and sunshine, everything, sending memes and reels to my besties. Also, a new communication back and forth. We just send memes and stuff back and forth. But if you find something good or that makes you happy, just kind of keep at that and try to bring that joy, I guess, into your life. And that makes it better for every day you wake up. And every morning I wake up and I'm like, is it at my time at 6 o'clock? Is it 6 o'clock yet?

Is Gina done her check in? I want to go in and see, I want to go in and see who's there. I want to go in and say hello. I want to comment on people's posts. Right. Community. And this is the thing I'm just like, it's all about community. And, you know, I always knew that our community was special.

But I think like just, I don't know. I think I'm realizing it more than ever how it's not just important to our members, but it's really important to me as well. Like I love connecting with people in our community and seeing people, you know, and following people on Instagram and having conversations in here. It's something you have to work on, work at. Yes. Yeah.

You know, it's not, I think for a lot of people, they're like, oh, I wish I had a friend to send a meme to or whatever. And I think this is where you, you have to like, you have to, I just want to say to people, it's, it's work to be part of the community. And you, you know, whether it's, you're trying to go on the check in video and you, you talk about how that's one thing that you're doing. Um, each time we do a program, we try to focus on something, something new. And this time it's like commenting on the check in video. How has that been for you? I love it. Like I said, I love it. Like I wake up, wake up, go pee. I come back and weigh myself. Usually I try to guess what my weight's going to be. I love that. I love that. Especially, you know, if I've eaten later or had salty foods or if I had a really tough workout or if I didn't get enough sleep or how stressful things are. Like my mind's always like, ooh, I wonder where it's going to be today. Some days I'm not happy with it, but I know how it got there. And then I beat her downstairs and take my thyroid medication and get my coffee ready. And I sit down all fall. I was getting in. I had one of the blow-up hot tubs from Costco. So like all spring right through to the fall, that's where I would do my check-in from. I'd be out all cozy and in my hot tub, listening to the check-in.

And then good morning, you know, and commenting on everybody else's. It's a good little routine. so. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Um, I can't these, these go by so fast. Oh, my goodness. Um, what is your, if you could pick, like, if you could say two things that you are really proud of, of yourself doing, what would it be? Um, for sticking with this, even when the things got hard and tough and, um, life gets in the way. Life always is going to get in the way of anything. that's meaningful, I think, that, you know, that you're striving for, whatever it's going to make it hard. It's going to make you want it. So I'm super proud that I've stuck with this and that there has been progress. And I've made, you know, that I've found these things out about myself. And I've, I've seeked help elsewhere for things that have been going on joining the gym.

That would never have, I would never have done that. And that my friend joined the program after me, and she joined the gym in April of last year. I never joined until August. I was like, you test it out and see, you do it. You can test it out and see how it works for you. And by that time August came around, I was like, yeah, I'm going to join too. I'll come with you and whatever. So we typically would travel in together, and it's kind of like our,

bought like our friend time we would work in 45 minutes way so we'd have like an hour and a half in the car and our time at the gym um so it was really really good um yeah and just being i'm just trying to be a healthier version of me i want to be here you know my kids are almost all out of high school i want to be here later i want to be able to maybe go on trips with them when they're a little bit older and you know and they want to go and do all of this stuff i want to be able to go and do that stuff too. And if I happen to have grandchildren come along later, I want to be able to get down on my hands and knees and play with them. I want to be able to go kick that damn soccer ball in the backyard with them if that's what they want to do. Like, I don't want

to be, oh, no, just wait. I got to go ice my back or. Yeah. So, yeah, those are. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. And before we go, what, what's one thing? If you could say one thing to someone who is maybe struggling, you know and their weight's not moving out the way they would like but maybe they have an idea something's going on what would your advice be uh reach out for help if you have questions um you know i know that your people are really good i've made a couple of questions off and on and your team has gotten back to me the community members have gotten back um so reach out for help whether it's here or through your own, you know, your own community,

whether that's your medical professional, therapist or whatever, whatever. And just keep, just keep one thing a day. If you, if you can improve on one thing better than you did the day before, your way, way so much, so much more ahead. And if you mess up today, don't worry about it. Pick up tomorrow. pick up later on today just try to do one thing don't let one thing get you down and your body

needs time to adjust so if if you lost weight let it do it do its thing we don't know how long it's going to take yeah you know just keep just keep plugging away yeah i love that um yeah and you're right like if you're able to maintain your weight like that's never a bad thing yeah never lost time that's like there's that that's like that's like that's the worth its weight in gold that there alone everyone's driving to the scale um i love what you said about trying to guess your weight i think that's a great thing like i want everyone to get we talk about that a lot in maintenance program um because some people like should i weigh should i not weigh like if you're not ready to get rid of the scale yet play the game of guessing being so in tune that you already know the number on the scale before you

get on the scale. Thank you for your time today. Thank you for your tips. I saw some of the comments here. Your perseverance is amazing. Love your perspective on this. I absolutely agree. Thank you for everyone who joined us live or listening after the fact. And Loretta, thank you so much for one, just putting your faith in the living method, but too, honestly, showing up and hanging out with me today. I appreciate you. Thank you. What do you tell you? Gosh, I mean, we have the best freaking community ever. And the fact that it's not an easy thing to show, to share your journey and get really personal. And I think that's where connection is made by being really real and really honest. And I mean, so grateful for her for coming on. And again, I really do love that. It's all about perspective and especially getting on the scale. If you're, you know, if you're worried about getting on the scale, you get on the scale and it, you know, cause you. you to feel a certain way try to just own the scale like guess your weight before you i don't i do not need to get on the scale to know what my weight is after not getting any sleep last night watching

the jays game right i knew my way i could feel it i knew my weight would be up um and we're probably going to do it again tonight although i hope the game doesn't go so long um tomorrow kim who is the manager of the weight loss program here is going to join me to talk about the tweak this and the splitting up of the meals and snacks part of the feeding the metabolism. So she's been compiling all the questions that you have about it, and we're going to break it down and get into it tomorrow. So that's going to be during the morning live. And then talk about being active.

Andrew Blakey is a fitness expert, and he's just absolutely lovely. And not only is he great at fitness, but his whole jam is longevity. And so we're going to talk about health and fitness and wellness and longevity. with him on Thursday. So thank you for joining me today. What a great day, Dr. Sean Wharton this morning and Loretta this afternoon. I'm looking forward to the rest of the week. I hope you have a great rest of your night. Go J's go. And I'll see you tomorrow.