The Livy Method Podcast - Spill the Tea - Fall 2025: Week 9 with Tammy Dumoulin-Asselin

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

In this episode of Spill the Tea, Gina sits down with Tammy Dumoulin-Asselin, a vibrant 61-year-old from Wawa, Ontario, who shares her incredible transformation after a lifetime of dieting. From tiny cabbage roll "meals" and long drives for weigh-ins to shedding nearly 40 pounds and lowering her cholesterol, Tammy opens up about what finally worked, how her mindset shifted, and why she's never felt more confident in her body. They chat about the emotional weight of decades in diet culture, the power of community (hello Wawa group chat!), and the unexpected joy in watching the scale fluctuate without fear.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodfall2025To learn more about the Livy Method, visit www.livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I'm living a really happy relationship with my body. My confidence is through the roof. Every day on this program, I learn something new. I have tools now. I've never had them before. What a great day to spill the tea today. My guest, Tammy, is 61 years old. She hails from Wawa and Teril.

Wawa, Ontario and part of the Wawa group chat. Hello, shout out to her group chat. She's been married for 36 years. She has two adult sons, both 30 and 28, and a two and a half year old Bernadoodle named Ellie, who hopefully will make an appearance. She's been with us for about a year. She started the program at age 60. She is now, like I said, 61. We're going to talk to her about her journey. She's tried all the diets. She started dieting when she was 14 years old. She even tried a diet where there's something called the power hour I want to talk to her about. And also the 80s, the whole like aerobic thing back in the day, Jane Fonda and whatnot. So let's bring her on. Let's have an amazing chat. Hello. I had to say hi to your Wawa group chat. What if there's like nine of

you or something crazy like that? There are nine of us who were in the spring group and we lost a couple, but we gave new ones over over for this program. So I think there's actually seven of us. I love that. But one lives in Calgary. And a couple live in New Liskirt. Oh, okay. There you go. I love that. I love that. So did you start it or was your friend who started? I started the group. Okay. The messenger group. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, but you started the living method because of a friend. Yes, I did. Yeah, and you're one of the skeptical ones.

I love that to sign up last minute for a friend, skeptical. I was not a believer. I was like, it's just another program. I won't be able to eat carbs. I won't have fruit. I won't be able to have cheese, alcohol. Yeah. Well, have we converted you?

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I brought along a few friends. I love that. So you're down, I mean, you've done quite well. Your first program is in the fall of 2024, down 24.6, then winter, 17, spring, nine. And then fall, you began up up eight pounds. So from the summer, I'm supposing.

And then now down 36.8 in total. I mean, that's remarkable. That's amazing. But more than that, I see you added your, you know, your cholesterol levels, like blood work wise health and wellness wise like tangible results absolutely it i i couldn't even believe it and it was just i hadn't had blood work done for a while and i got to have a new physician um and so i saw him in august and he was like well maybe we should run some blood work and i was like yeah yeah you should probably weigh me too you know we would go for our annual

physical you know they'd call you into weigh you and i think oh god really like do we need to do this Yeah. But I was pretty excited and wanted to get weight. Now, I guess they don't, they don't do that anymore. But anyways, he did the blood work and called me to review the results. And we were both surprised. And I mean, I told him I had lost at that time. I was, you know, just around the, well, I had lost 40.

And then there's always these few little pounds that I play with that are up and down. but I do know from my new relationship with my scale that my weight fluctuates within five pounds any given day. Yeah. Any given day. So I don't get too upset about it anymore. But yeah, I was pretty excited when he called me with the results of the cholesterol levels and just what a huge difference it was.

So I tried to promote the program with him, but, you know, it was our first meeting and he was, that's great, but didn't want to know too much yet. I thought, I'm not done with you. We're going to talk again. Well, you went from like a 6.6 to a 4.84. Like, and yeah, your LDL, you know, 4.4. That's incredible. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And I feel it. Yeah. You know, you've been dieting since you were 14 and I saw your, your comment there, how you were like a size 7. Mm-hmm. Sadly, right? Thinking that was overweight.

Yeah. And then the shame part, and I love that you were just mentioning that, you know, you know that your weight fluctuates now five pounds. And, of course, looking back, you talk about the shame that you felt on other diets when you plateaued or your weight went up. Now you, I'm sure now you're looking back and being like, oh, my goodness, it's so normal. Unbelievable. There was actually one of the diets at the times that I did. It was in the early 90s. And, you know, you purchased their food and you had to eat their food.

but you could add broccoli and lettuce and those kinds of things, but their meals were prepared. So I don't remember a lot of what I ate, but I remember there was a package thing of two cabadryls, and that's what I could eat for a meal with broccoli. And I would travel, because I'm in an isolated community in Northern Ontario, I traveled five hours, return every weekend to go get weight and to buy my groceries.

and if my weight was not down what it should have been each week she would this woman that was the nurse would make me feel so horrible you know i would really feel like i was being berated for not having lost that week and i mean very minimal food didn't eat a lot of food and of course as soon as i stopped the program that weight just came back on because i was back to just eating regular food that i could purchase at the grocery coffee store. Yeah, you were berated. Nothing you felt like you were. You were. That's kind of how they did it back then. Yeah, absolutely. That's crazy. So you talk about, and if you haven't had an opportunity to read Tammy's story, you can check out the notes. It's posted in the group, but you know, talking talking about all the diets that you've done in the past and the counting and the weighing and measuring, that's one of the things that you actually liked about the Libby method. So you were surprised that there was no counting and weighing and measuring. Oh, I was shocked.

I was absolutely shocked. And I really, sorry. How'd your friend sell you the program? Like what'd she say? So she had done it, but she wasn't able to finish it. And we were all sitting at a cottage together, you know, our group of girls rented a cottage. And so what do you do at the cottage? You eat and drink and sit your butts on the beach.

That's what we did all week. And so she was talking about this program that she was going to start in the fall. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't eat fruit, right? Oh, oh, I can. But only like one piece of fruit, whenever, once a day. I was like, I don't know. I don't know.

So then she contacted me to ask me to go out for dinner in early September to one of our favorite restaurants. And I just wasn't feeling it. I was like, well, I don't really want to go out because I'm golfing this tournament the next day. And so I kind of hemmed and hot. And then she said, I'm starting the program. I really want to go have this last meal. So I said, I'll do it for you. And we went out and it was actually an early surprise 60th birthday for me.

Oh, stop it. That was her excuse to get you out. Yes, yes. So then I saw the pictures. Oh. And said, well. Okay. Hmm. How did that happen? Okay, I'm in. I'm in. How do I sign up? So that was Sunday night. I signed up. And there I was Monday morning watching Gina, dropping F bombs. And I said, this, this is interesting. And as I watched all the videos, all the lives, I read all I could. I loaded the app and I and I trapped everything in the app and boy oh boy by the end of week one I was hooked

yeah I couldn't believe how amazing it was and I had lost I actually went on my actual birthday in September went away in another girl's weekend and uh I had already lost I think seven pounds on day 10 so it came off me quick the first week of the first program well you're You're your 24 pounds, 25 pounds in the first program. Yep. What was your, what do you, what, what was that someone was to ask you why you were so successful, what would you say? Well, I tracked, I tracked in the app every day. I already drank a lot of water because I take a medication that dehydrates me, so I have to drink a lot.

So, I mean, already I had lots of fluids in me. Yeah. It was already someone who walked. I did introduce some of the supplements with the first program. So omega-3 and turmeric right away. Oh, because you were doing inflammation. Is that why? Oh, I have rheumatoid arthritis, right?

So I was thinking definitely, let's do something for the inflammation. Okay. I think the hugest difference was not eating at night. Yeah. Not eating anything after dinner. So bits and bites. I was hungry for the first two or three weeks. And my husband's a snacker.

And he would sit there and eat crap, you know, chips and cheesies that I'd be watching him or ice cream, whatever kind of treats. And I would, he'd be crunching away. And I'd be thinking, oh, man, I just want to reach out and. choke him right now. My husband's literally right here right now. Tony. Hi, that's me too. I was like, that's me.

You're the enemy. All husbands. All husbands. And then I would go to the grocery store and I wouldn't buy any of it. And so then he'd be complaining there wasn't any. I was like, you want it? You go get it yourself. I am not, I'm not buying it right now. Now I don't care. Now I buy it for him.

whatever, it's there. But yeah, it took me a few weeks. So I drank the calm that also early on. Herbal tea and I would, you know, heat the milk and froth it and put a little cinnamon on it and feel like I was having a real treat. Love that. It's a great tip. Sometimes I gave in and I said, okay, just give me three chips. Let me just have a few.

Okay, it's done. We're done. Maybe I need to go to bed now so I don't have to watch you eat. that's a it's a game changer right like that you when did you make that connection and be like okay this is like really making a difference here oh that was pretty immediate pretty immediate because prior to that i would go to bed with acid reflux you know you're taking tombs or pepsid indigestion i started sleeping well so much so much better not not eating tons or any of it anymore but then between programs over Christmas holidays then I indulged in everything that

yeah you know I normally would have at Christmas but I I had even more of it and I was back to indigestion acid reflux yeah I mean sometimes it's good to kind of fall back into old things to recognize wow the these changes are actually making a big difference oh then you know how horrible you feel yeah Yeah, you get a taste of feeling good. That's what you've got to hold on to is how good you feel when you're not eating at night or not doing this or not doing that. Because it's hard. I think it's one of the most important changes people can make, but one of the hardest people for people.

So now, if there's ever a time I think I want to indulge at night, I say, hmm, let's think about how you're going to feel. How are you going to feel when you go to bed? How are you going to feel tomorrow? Is it worth it? Yeah. Sometimes I take the risk. Yeah, sometimes it is. Or like you might get away with it the first night.

And then after like a couple nights, then you're like, okay, I'm not, I'm not really, I'm not really getting away with this. I'm like that was one. I had a recent incident. Halloween. Uh-huh. Halloween. I haven't been having any of those kinds of sweets. I've been staying up late watching the Js like you and so many others decided, okay,

get it out of your system eat the crap you're stressed out watching this game yeah oh my gosh you know i was so sick the next day i felt like i was hung over i had dark circles and bags under my eyes my teeth hurt my jaws hurt because i like candy so i'm like about wine gum and jujuby kinds of things licorish yeah i had an upset stomach i had a headache and i felt like i was so thirsty So I said back on program today, eat everything clean, drink the water, get out of the house as much as you don't want to because you feel like you're sluggish and tired. I couldn't wait to get to bed on Saturday night so I could wake up feeling like myself again on Sunday. Did you notice the flare up in the arthritis? Oh, yes.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, so you really understood that inflammation conversation with Dr. Paul, I would imagine. Oh, yes. Dr. Paul, Dr. Paul and all the supplements. I've added many more supplements since then. Yeah, what's your like must have supplement for you? What do you like? So I start the morning probiotic, my turmeric, my omega-3.

When I have my snack, I have vitamin B complex, vitamin D. I started the MCT oil and initially I was putting it in my coffee. was really giving me an upset stomach. I would get pretty severe cramps. So I since stopped adding it to the coffee and I add it to my food. Oh, like a salad or dressing or something. Yep. On the salad in my soup or jilly or whatever, I'll just squirt a little bit. Hemp hearts. Hemp hearts. I sprinkle that shit on everything. You know, I haven't talked about those enough. I actually grabbed a bag the other day because I've forgotten how much I love hemp hearts and how great they are and sprinkling. I used to actually just eat them right out of the bag. And I was like,

What happened to that? Same thing with supplements. We don't really get into the supplements in a way that we used to before. Yeah. And then I take the prebiotic in the evening. Oh, nice. And calm and calm every night. I love it.

I know me too. I love that you have tangible results. You know, a lot of people don't have that. They're just judging how they feel by the scale every day and not their non-scale victories or to be able to have actual results like you have. That's a game changer. like that's a that's pretty motivating it is it absolutely is what is some of the lifestyle changes you have made beyond the supplements that you think have made a big impact that you these are like

you must do what are they every single day I must lay on the floor and do all my stretching routine oh really every more every day and if I don't do it I've only done it partly today because It's been a busy day, but I will do it. I cannot go to bed without doing it because I ache too much. So it's a combination of stretching Pilates yoga moves. Every now and again, I'll check one of Chloe's workouts or her stretching videos. Oh, thanks to Andrew Blakey squats. I must do squats every day.

And I was very appreciative of those squats when I went on my girls' trip in September because we were using an awful lot of public washrooms and port-a-potties at a concert. And let me tell you, thank you, Andrew Blakey. I definitely want to be able to do a good squat. And he said it was the most important exercise, you know, for the rest of your life, because you need to be able to get up and out of a chair and you need to sit in the toilet. I thought, oh, yes. Like it was an aha moment for me.

I thought, yes, it's true. I need to do squats every day. And I walk every day. Do you get on steps or don't worry about that? I don't worry so much about the steps, but I do wear my watch and I do check it. So my walk is generally between four and six kilometers at a moderate pace every day. So sometimes with a dog on leash, sometimes we're off somewhere where she can just run. But definitely I have to get out.

Unless it's pouring rain, I'm not quite as committed as. Rainy. She's watching. But I did buy a walking pad. I did get one for Christmas. I love my walking pad. I love it. You talked about walking pad, so I got one.

Yeah. But I do like walking outside. Well, I love your stretching because interesting. Tony and I just started this week where he's doing this thing called 50, 50 squats, 50 pushups, 50 abs. And, you know, I said to him today, I was not feeling so hot. And I was just like, I guess get up and stretch. because like I feel so much better even because you know when your body's just you don't feel like moving and I'm like I just got to get up at least and do some stretches and it makes a big difference like we had

that conversation with Amanda Thieb I don't know if you caught it earlier this morning but you know we tend to have this all or nothing attitude when you know just the just doing something adds up yes absolutely and I do some of the weights too just at home and I did go to the gym a few times I'm not a gym person. So I've always been an active person. Yeah. But not like a gym or, or any more of the fitness classes that I did in the 80s. But I did. My son kept trying to convince me to go. And the first time we listened, I listened to Andrew Blakey. I just had it on my phone and was preparing supper and whatever. I don't know what I was doing. But he was home and he was listening. And when it was over, he said, see, this is what I told you. I've been trying to get you to the gym with

me and you've not been coming and this is what you need. And I said, in my mind, he's a 30 year old fit guy who wants me to go lift weights. I'm thinking, I can't go to the gym with you. You're going to push me way too hard. And he's like, no. So I went with him. And I was surprised and so was he at what I could do. Yes. I also went hiking with him and hiked a mountain I hadn't done in 10 years. Well, yeah, right here you're doing hiking, curling, kayaking, snowshoeing, like golf, like you're doing all the stuff. Which a lot of it I already did. Yeah. But my hiking, I was looking for flatter trails the last few years.

Do you think that was menopause? Like I just, you know, assuming your age 61, like looking back, that's a huge conversation now. You must be like. And I, I am. So I retired. probably earlier than I should have, but when I needed to, to take care of my health. Yeah. Because I was experiencing burnout.

Yeah. I didn't know anymore if it was the rheumatoid arthritis, if it was the jaw, if it was menopause, or a combination of everything. But I wasn't sleeping. I was stressed to the max. I was gaining weight. I was in physical pain. and the medication that the rheumatologist prescribed for me,

which is metatrexate, I could not tolerate. It made me nauseous. I had vertigo, still too sometimes, but I was just, I didn't know what was happening. And I just finally had a breakdown and I was off work for three months. So when I went back, I thought, well, I can get back into the same pile. same old routine and back at it or I can take some major life changes yeah well in all fairness you had a liberally high stress job like child and family counseling you know child protection like

that was a lot and even now like you know supply teaching jk like kids kids have been through so much like the pandemic and then everything that's going on like it's a it's a craziness out there so that's a lot of stress plus going through menopause and and having health issues and that's a lot yeah but the supply teaching is great it's a whole different relationship with kids right i really enjoy it and i i can say no and so it depends so sometimes depending what class they're offering me i'm yeah no there's some no there's some behavior it's just in there i don't want to deal with today i bet um what if let's talk about burnout for a second um you know just doing all the things with the program you must have a greater sense of like sort of where you are at and what was going

on and how you were coping? Well, the pandemic. The pandemic actually really played a significant role. So at the time of the burnout, we were working from home. And so I was working with kids who were experiencing depression, suicidal ideation. Yeah. Like, you know, questioning their sexuality, their gender. And so I can't see them face in, I can't see them in person.

this is all on the screen and it was just the cases were more and more complex when I started that job you were you were teaching positive parenting strategies or working with kids who you know whose parents were were separating or divorcing and working with parents around do's and don'ts of divorce but people's needs were so much more complex people were hurting kids were hurting it was it was tough it was tough and then to be at home alone dealing with it right we have a small team and you try to get that support from your supervisors and your co-workers but it was tough it was tough for everyone yes it was a it was a tough time and I think at the time I didn't recognize initially how bad it was and how much it was affecting me until

I was able to fully walk away from it Yeah, and then you knew. Yeah. And I thought, oh, I'm in it, like, I'm going to be this fit, retired woman who lose all this weight. Well, it wasn't happening. Not until last ball. Yeah.

Well, I think we think that, I think there's like time versus capacity, right? Like you were retired, so maybe you had the time, but, you know, there's a whole thing of capacity. Have you reconciled your past with your job? dieting history. I mean, you know, I'm reading one of these, the one, the carbohydrate addicts diet, the power hour where you eat anything you wanted to for an hour at dinner, you just, you ate positive and butter tarts. I would have done the same. It's so much stuff. It's so, there's so much anger there and shame. Like, have you, have you looked back and reconcile the time and the energy and I, I couldn't, I'd actually forgotten about it, to be completely honest.

I love that. Until I was writing. The bio for your program. And you know, the last guest you had in this bill of T. Loretta, I was working in my bio when I was listening to her. And she said how just that process of writing it all down is really, it's therapeutic. In that as I started remembering, I had, at different times I've had memories and moments and glimpses of like, you know, like what it was like at your family table growing up, that kind of thing and had moments where I thought, holy shit, right, and cried and thought, wow,

but then as I was writing it down, so much was coming back to me and I would, I'd be like somewhere and oh, oh, yeah, that. And I'd have to go write it down. And I'd had all these little post-its and pieces of paper that I had to gather everything together. And then I remembered that program. And so I was really trying to remember exactly what it was. So they were no cards. except during that one hour. Yeah. You know, the morning, I remember breakfast was just protein and lunch. I think it was protein and salad.

I don't even remember. But I don't remember any snacks. And I could be wrong. And I purchased the book. It was just this book that you read and followed. And then supper was you had one hour to eat whatever the heck you wanted. And it was called the power hour. The kids were young.

I would look at my watch and I would say to my husband, you're on. I'm tagging out, power hour, like don't disturb me. If the kids need something, you're getting it. I'm not, this is my hour. So it would be, oh, I'm going to eat pasta and I'm going to eat butter tarts. And then I'd leave the table and I'd be so stuffed. But I'd be like, I still have some time left. Do I want something more before the hours up?

So, create the only one. Sandy's like, I remember doing the power hour. Yes, someone else remembered that? Yeah. And thank you, because I was reading this today. And I was like, God, it was so messed up. And I even remember the 80s. And I was just like, oh, man, this is so crazy.

It was very validating. So thank you for taking the time to write it out. Because I was just like, oh, God. Or they're like, you know, going on a diet because you were a size 7. I mean, like, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. I was so overweight, right? Because my friends were a little bit smaller.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so messed up. Yeah. I mean, I didn't even include information about, you know, going off to college. Because, I mean, in northern Ontario, I had, I was 12 hours away from my family and didn't see them from Labor Day until Christmas.

And I, I remember my mother, my mother was so worried I would become anorexic. And she's like, you have to eat, you have to eat while you're away. And, you know, we'd have these phone calls at 11 p.m. at night because it was long distance was cheaper. Yes. Remember those long distance phone calls, phone bills were insane. It had to be Sundays, you called? And if you called it 11, it better, if you called when it wasn't 11 p.m., it better be an emergency. Remember. Yes, I remember. I remember. And I had a boyfriend once.

phone bill was like hundreds if not thousands of things you had to you could only call between certain times because yeah oh yes and the whole and often the conversation was you can't you must be eating you better be eating you don't want to be anorexic and it was like oh yeah okay so i'm going to eat bread i'm going to eat toast for breakfast and i'm going to eat sandwiches for lunch and i'm going to eat hot dogs for supper and popcorn every night so i gained oh my god from september to December And my roommate and I kept saying, the damn dryers drinking our clothes. Yeah, I bet.

Yes. All right. I walked in the door and my mother looked at me and said, oh my God, you got fat. Oh, my God. I hadn't seen her in four months. But I mean, I did gain a lot. it was

it was harsh though harsh it's harsh it's harsh well we tried damn it we tried really hard we tried

it's not through lack of trying oh my goodness no I mean that was a lot you also you know we read in the bio that your dad passed away

when you were 16 that would have been a couple years earlier you left and go to university on your own. That's a lot. I mean, there's a lot of feels. And we didn't discuss feels back then. I don't know about you, but no. No, we didn't talk about it. We didn't talk about it. I never had therapy or counseling. We didn't know what that was. Yeah. Never heard of that back then. Yeah. And we didn't really know even how to eat healthy, right? If I was going on a diet,

it was like, okay, I'm going to eat just chicken. You're right, because the diets were so messed up. And then we know, we raised on cereal, whatever we had lunch. And then, of course, our dinner. We think we all figured out dinner at the end of the day. But, yeah, it was a little messed up. It was. Well, look out. It's come a long way.

Thank you. Oh, well, thank you. Even though you were skeptical. That's my favorite story. People who kind of didn't know what they were signing up for. It's super skeptical. You know, we're trying to do right. We're trying to do right by people.

We are really trying to make a difference in the world. And I love that you had faith. in us and you gave us a go. And so your goal is for it, what, 45 is your goal? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm not, not too worried right now. Like I feel good where I am. So today's, I weighed myself today. Today was 39.8. I'm like, okay, I was at the 40, but, oh, and that's another tip. Measure, measure, measure, measure, measure. Yeah. Okay. Because I measured yesterday just because this was happening. So even though my weight has just been playing around,

like my waist was another inch smaller since September. Yeah, I believe. And in my thighs and arms too, like there was a difference. But I thought, okay, like it might not be, you know, so much reflected, even from the spring where it did say 40. And also, you kept staying in the summer and in the early fall and the spring about the humidity. And I think that really played havoc as well. Yeah, definitely felt.

You mentioned off the top earlier that your weight really fluctuates. And that's mine too, my weight really fluctuates. We got to wrap this up. It's been so great. But here we are, Tammy, we're in week nine. And there have been some comments this week about people being resistant to move forward without understanding big picture. And so what would you just say to say what someone who's like new and they just like,

I just want to stay where I'm at or I'm resistant to move forward? What would you say about the last month of the program? Oh, hang in there. Hang in there. Lots of magic happens the last month. Oh, yeah. Things happen. Things shift.

Things change. And if you're not calm yet around the food, it really does come together. and the feeling the feeling at the very end of how proud you feel of yourself like that first program in i was like i couldn't believe that i was still there after 91 days i was crying happy tears i was dancing around my kitchen yeah yes right i didn't i did it yeah i felt so much better like i really felt it felt like physically lighter but emotionally lighter because you don't know coming into it that it's not just about what you eat. It's the whole picture, the stress, the sleep, all of it.

And the guests, the guess that you have, like, I've got something out of every single guest always. Like I always like, yeah, well, I don't know. I don't know that I'm going to get anything out of like a pelvic physiotherapist. Yeah, right. I was like, oh, well, then didn't there and learn a few things today? like always always hang in hang in and if you don't have a friend doing it with you that you can talk to like i would go to the group i had friends doing it but sometimes you know it's late at night or

whatever and i'm just feeling discouraged and i would go to the group and just start reading some of the posts and reading some of the comments yeah ask the questions too someone will answer your question. Yeah, I love that. Those are good tips. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for joining me today. And thank you for everyone who here, Celine. Thank you, Tammy. You're so funny and inspiring. Absolutely. Such a great chat. Super inspiring. Thanks to everyone who joined us live for listening the app of the fact. I know you got some good tidbits and takeaways. Thank you, Tammy. Thank you, Gina. And thank you also to Tony and your kids for giving up a lot of your time. Thank you. Yeah. Tony's right here. He's listening. The kids, I know what the kids are out spending my money

doing something sleeping. I don't know. But yes, thank you. That's very kind of you to say. I appreciate that. We recognize how much time you put into it. So that's time that sometimes you miss out on, right? For your family, Mrs. Oda. It is true. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. Thank you. Come back. Join me again. I would love to continue the conversation. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful evening. All right. Thanks, Tammy. Thanks, everyone. Can't. That's so kind of her. Honestly, I kind of had to blew that, blew that off for a little bit just not going there emotionally. I'm, you know, yeah.

I mean, this is what it's about, right? Real people, real journeys. I think there's always so good. If there's one second of this conversation today that you connected with, it's so worth taking the time. I also really love that we have members who are willing to share. It's not an easy thing. As you know, if you want to read more about Tammy and her story,

be sure to hit up her bio. It's posted in the group, also in the app as well. Tomorrow, Kim and I are going to get together for our tweak this week and talk about the actual revamp part of this tweak. And then on Thursday, we got Dr. Paul joining us in the morning. And then Alyssa, our new resident dietitian is going to share us some high protein breakfast ideas. So we've got a great week ahead. Thank you for joining me today.

I hope you have a great rest of your night. I'll stay tomorrow. Thank you.