The Livy Method Podcast - Spill the Tea - Spring/Summer 2024: Week 6

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

This is the live recording of the Spill the Tea session with Gina and Special Guest Kim Spink.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodspringsummer2024Topics covered:Introducing our Spill The Tea Guest - Kim SpinkLooking at hormones - when hormone changes can become an excuseBody positivity vs true self-love - wanting to shed fat to support good healthKim’s journey - started at age 12 with a liquid dietPregnancy and motherhood - how things started to changeOther diets - what Kim tried before The Livy MethodHormones - when Kim knew they were starting to play a role in her journeyKeeping it off - the mental weight vs the physical weightKim has committed to a year - giving the journey the time it takesHer secret sauce - how Kim has accomplished her goalsKim’s final words of wisdom - get out of your head and into The ProgramFollow our Livy Loser account on IG @LivyLosers and use #livyloserTo learn more about the Livy Method, visit www.ginalivy.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livy and welcome to the Livy Method podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 day weight loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the morning live? Want to re-listen to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place. This podcast is hosted on Acast, but it's available on all podcast platforms, including the one you're listening to right now, Spotify, Apple,

and Amazon Music. Welcome to Spill the Tea. This community is so open and welcoming. People that don't even know you come in and say, you know, I've been there. I know how you're feeling. Hang in there. Losing weight, but gaining so much more. Well, this is my favorite part of the week when I get to talk to or have very real conversations with our very real members on their very real weight loss journey. Today, my guest I'm going to be spilling the tea with is Kim Spink. She is 51, born and raised in the Yukon, currently residing in Southwestern Ontario, 42 pounds down with the living method, currently in her third program. She's actually now below her original goal weight. And of course she has a story, started dieting at the age of 12 when someone mentioned she might look a bit chunky. She's done all the diets. She's counted, weighed, measured. She's done intermittent fasting.

She has exercised and then exercised again and lost and gained 10 to 20 pounds so many times over the past 15 years. Got to a place where I thought she's got it. Then menopause hit. Of course, that's very relevant with the conversation that we were having this week. So let's waste no more time and introduce Kim. Okay. Can we just, I mean, if people have the luxury of watching this conversation your before and afters the back one what yeah i am so thankful that i thought to even take those pictures i i don't i don't even i still look at it and don't even believe it sometimes it takes a while right like sometimes people don't recognize I don't even, I still look at it and don't even believe it. Sometimes it takes a while, right? Like sometimes people don't recognize their weight until they catch themselves in the mirror and they're like, Whoa, that's not me. And then, and then after you

lose your weight, you're not really like, it takes a while, I think for your brain to catch up to what you've accomplished physically and recognize. I remember there was a time where I, I, I pulled my pants out of the dryer and I thought, whose pants are these? And then I was like, oh shit, those are my pants. Hi, welcome. Thanks for joining me. Thank you. I am, by the way, happy belated. 51. Join the club. I'm a month ahead of you. So yeah. Well, how are you finding that? So, so I know, I know you have a whole story, but you recently, you know, you started with, you're like, okay, you know, you thought menopause was the reason why you were gaining weight, couldn't lose weight. What, what are your thoughts on it now? What are your thoughts on it now? Um, well, menopause was a convenient explanation. And also a convenient excuse. Because I, when you talked about the body positivity conversation, yeah, I came to a place, I think it was last summer just before I signed up when I

knew that I wasn't at a weight that I was comfortable at I was at the same weight I was when I was pregnant with both my children and I wasn't pregnant so um and the fact that I am an avid runner, I've been running for 12 years. Um, I trained for half marathons. I did races in between, like I exercise is a part of my daily routine, not just for my physical body, but for my mental health as well. So it just blew my mind that someone as active as me could be the same weight I was when I was pregnant. It just, it didn't make sense. And so when I saw that number on the scale and scared the living Jesus out of myself, I thought, okay, well, you know what? I'm at a

point where things in my closet don't fit, or they're tight. I remember it was summertime, and I walk the dog every day. And I had to borrow a pair of my husband's Old Navy exercise shorts that were elastic waist. And I think that was probably the point where I was like, okay, I need to accept that this is where I'm at. So I'm going to go out and I'm going to buy myself some clothes. So I bought some clothes that fit. As painful as it was, I thought, okay, I need to be okay with what's going on because it's menopause. This is just what happens. This is just what is happening in my body. I'm working with my naturopath. I'm taking remedies. The only thing that just wasn't working for me was the weight. And I tried to be happy and I tried to love and accept myself. And it lasted for about a week. And then I went, there was that little voice in my head that said, no, you're not done.

Like, yeah, you have to try. You have to at least do something to take charge. So instead of using menopause as the explanation and the excuse, I used it as a springboard. And that's when I started talking to my friends and I knew of a couple of them that were like on weight loss programs. One was yours and one was the, the, the point counter one and they both had success. But I mean, I, like you'd mentioned in my intro,

I done the fasting, I done the app where you pretty much counted and weighed and measured everything you put in your mouth. I did the liquid diets back in the 90s. I exercised like when I went from completely sedentary to running, the weight melted off. And I'm like, bonus, right? Like, this is the answer. Well, no, it wasn't. Because then I hit that point where I was comfortable. I was healthy.

I felt good. But then menopause came into the picture. And it wasn't working anymore. It just wasn't working anymore. I wasn't happy. I wasn't satisfied with the weight. I tried to love my, and you know what? Kudos to the people who can be maybe a bit bigger and love and accept where they're at, but it just didn't feel right for me. And I just try something. The thing is, is that, so this is my issue with the body positivity is that you should love and accept yourself no matter what weight you are at. But

that doesn't mean that you can't want to make change. And I do feel like there's a voice inside you. That's like, Hey, can you like help us out here? Can you manage your stress? Can you get better sleep? Can you maybe eat some food? Like, I think there's a difference there. Like, I think everybody should love themselves exactly the way that they are. But if your voice is telling you, like you wake up and you're tired every day and you feel bloated and you feel gross, that voice is saying, Hey, something is off here. And I think that you can't, you shouldn't ignoring that voice is not, Hey, something is off here. And I think that you can't, you shouldn't ignoring that voice is not self-love, right? Like being like, what is going on? You know,

and to your point about exercising, like exercise, great. But the minute you stop exercising that, you know, that way it's going to come back on. And then also like that, that works when you're younger, right? A lot of these crappy diets work when you're younger. Didn't you have an issue, though, I want to talk about with your – you know what, let's start from the very beginning because I want to talk about your mom being sick and having to travel back and forth. That was probably a lot of the stress that you were dealing with.

So started your first diet at the age of 12, a liquid diet with your mom. Yep. When after a friend's mom suggested that you look chunky, looking back, did you have a weight issue then? I honestly don't think I did. Yeah. I, weight was never really an, an issue or a thought for me. Like I wasn't an active kid other than, you know, the fact that I wrote, I lived, grew up in a small town of like 1200 people and I had to ride my bike everywhere. So I was constantly on the go. And back in the eighties, what did you do? You went outside from sunup to sundown, you hung out with your friends, you rode your bike, you did all that kind of stuff. And for me, I lived by a lake and I had

friends that lived by lake. So we went canoeing in the summer. We went skating and skidooing. And my mom and I used to go like cross-country skiing across. Like I was active, I guess, in that sense. So no, I would have to say as a kid, I wouldn't have considered myself overweight. No. Well, and let's talk about the 80s because in the 80s, we talked about diets. Like diets were like everyone. I mean, how Weight Watchers was really started was a woman in her kitchen and she started

inviting friends over to talk about weight and they started trying to figure it out. So it was almost like this social thing that people did. We just talked about a diet. I think it was just as much social as it was like your mom probably thought like, hey, all right. So if you're feeling a little chunky, why don't we do a diet together? That'll be fun. We'll try to eat healthy and all of that. Right. So, so I think that the eighties was kind of like, you know, that's, that was sort of the

vibe in the eighties. When did you notice you did have an, a weight issue then? I would probably say after my second child, because my first pregnancy, you know what it's like with the first pregnancy, right? I didn't drink coffee. I didn't take Tylenol. I did Aquafit. I did yoga. I did, you know, I took really, really, I had time to take care of myself because I didn't have another kid to take care of. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you, yes. So I, and God bless you for having four. Oh, my goodness.

But, and so, yeah, so after I had my daughter, I was nursing quite regularly. And she literally sucked the weight right off of me and, and then 10 pounds more. So of course it came back when she stopped nursing, but I was at that one 60 was my magic number. One 60. I always was hovering around one 60. So if I was at one 60, I, I was okay. My second son or my second son, my second child, my son was born here in Ontario. We had moved from, I was living in British Columbia at the time where my daughter was

born. We moved to Ontario where my husband's from. And we were kind of in limbo. I didn't know anybody. I was suffering from postpartum. We were living with my sister-in-law. It wasn't an ideal situation. We were just getting started. And so, and then we had moved into a rental home and it's just, I wasn't quite grounded and comfortable in my environment yet. And then again, postpartum hit and I wasn't active and I was already dealing with the stress that I had felt from the move. Um, and, and I, I ate, I ate. And so with my son, I didn't notice the weight coming off as quickly and as easily as it did with my daughter. So that's kind of when I started noticing that I wasn't feeling comfortable in my own skin. I love that you shared that

because I think it's really easy in hindsight, but there's a lot to be learned about looking back, like obviously hormones out of whack, right? Totally. Totally. Um, stress, stress, um, probably not sleeping great. No, not at all. All those things. And, and we think, oh, well, we just had a baby and then we can't lose the weight, but it's like, it's not, it's so much more than that. And that's where, you know, it's interesting. Cause when I, when I used to work one-on-one with clients, what I would do, I actually just finished doing this with one of our members who won this session with me. And it's, it's never about the food, really. It's a, it's really about the story and how you got to where you are at and then really understanding what you need right now with where you are at. So I love that you shared that. So you've done intermittent fasting. Um,

how was that? And X over exercising, how did intermittent fasting and, and, and running and doing all that work for you? Well, I, I wasn't as heavy as I was when I started your program, but I was getting to the point where I was in the 170s creeping toward the 180s. And I was like, okay, I got to do something. And my running partner at the time actually had lost a significant amount of weight on intermittent fasting. I talked to my naturopath about it. She thought it was a good idea because my vice is eating at night. After everybody goes to bed, I pull out the snacks. And so she said

that would be good because then you wouldn't snack at night. And so yeah, so it worked until it didn't. Yeah. And it was probably about six or seven months, I lost 15 or 16 pounds in seven months. And then that's when menopause just punched me in the face. That's when I started getting the like serious mood swings and night sweats and hot flashes. And oh my goodness, like, and then I just plateaued. and, and then I thought, well, what's the point of intermittent fasting? Because like, it's, it didn't feel natural, like eating my, my window was from noon to eight. And so I remember going out for breakfast with friends and sitting there with like a glass of water, or a cup of tea or something and watching them eat and being so hungry and ignoring my body's cues. Which we all know with this program is not exactly what we should be doing. So it just was,

and it just felt like, I don't want to live like this. Like I just, it didn't, it wasn't natural. It wasn't comfortable. It's like, and plus when I was eating in that eight hour window, I could pretty much eat whatever I wanted. So it didn't teach me about what kind of foods to eat what my body needed. And so I mean, sure, I lost the 15 pounds or whatever. But then as soon as I stopped doing it and eating, quote unquote, normally, normal, it came back. And it just it was this vicious cycle of lose the 1015 20 gain that you know, just the yo yo wing up and down and up and down. And it just and then yeah, and then I was just dealing with the the menopause, like, big time, big time. And so hard. So where are you at now with that? What was your thought process? Did you like, I'm going to go to my doctor, I'm going to take a pill, I'm going to whatever, if you don't mind me asking, like, so you obviously knew, like, to me, it's like these things started happening. You're like, what the, what is fucking happening here? It's kind of like

when you get your menstrual cycle, you're like, what, what, what happened to me? What is going on? It's like, you don't change anything. It's the exact opposite, right? Because you don't get it anymore. You don't get it anymore. But when it, when it did come, you all of a sudden, you're like, what, why am I feeling like this? What is going on? Why is my weight up? Why do I feel bloated? Why am I not sleeping? Then you're like, it comes and you're like, oh, I didn't even change anything. And you know, I feel like garbage. And now you're right. It's the opposite. We're not getting it, but we're still feeling. So you do, I feel like garbage. And now you're right, it's the opposite. We're not getting it. But we're still feeling so you do sort of feel like it's all a little uncontrollable. So when you when did you recognize you were dealing with hormonal issues in this

respect? Um, well, I started getting the hot flashes sporadically, like they were coming in waves, probably around the age of 43, 44. And, um, that's when I, we have a wonderful naturopath that, uh, we have here that I've been working with ever since. And so I see her every three months. And she checks in, you know, I've been dealing with her with my iron, that's all good. And now I've just discovered that my bilirubin was high. So now I'm taking the bitters and we're dealing with my gallbladder. And you know, she's had me on these menopause remedies and adaptogens for my adrenals. And she's had me on the omegas and the vitamin D and all that stuff. So I feel really, like very fortunate that I was working with someone even before listening to whatever Dr. Paul had to say about the supplements and such. So I feel like I got a bit of a head start there.

I love that. Okay, so what are your thoughts now? Are you feeling hopeful? I mean, obviously, I'm going to assume yes, because you've crushed your goal and more so. Are you nervous about getting the weight back, having gained its back before? Um, the thoughts definitely enter the brain. And, uh, as, as I had mentioned in my bio, um, that I wrote for the Facebook, um,

I have these, not the good voices, not the intuition that told me, you know, you need to do something about this. These are the little chattering monkeys, I call them. Chattering monkeys, yeah. you know and it's funny that when you mentioned about the brain uh the way the way um the way things work like how your brain works like when you pulled it when you pulled your pants out of the dryer and went who the hell's pants my, I need to buy smaller clothes. Yes, this happens. I know. So, and it's funny because I watch a lot of those reality shows where they lose a shit ton of weight because they've had the, the the surgery. And the one thing that I noticed, like I'll always remember this one woman and she was so wide that she couldn't fit through the door in her house. So she would always turn and walk in the door sideways. And even when she'd lost well over 200 pounds, she still turned

and walked through the door sideways, even though she could fit two of her in the doorframe. But it just went to prove how powerful the minds, the mind, you know, like your mindset is. And so that's what I think now, like that the weight has come off and physically I've lost the 42 pounds I the mental weight is still something that I've dealt with like a lot of the chattering monkeys have you know told me uh you know this Matt you're gonna fail you're gonna gain it back but I you know Dr. Beverly has been such a blessing with the capsule capture, cancel and correct. Because I use that all the time. Because I'm able to recognize it now. And like for me, perfect example, this, the other day, I went and bought myself a size medium pair of running tights.

And I actually went running this morning. And today was the first time that I've ran without having to stop and pull up my pants every two or three minutes. And I thought, Oh my God, this is so liberating. Like I ran 31 minutes without yanking my pants up like yeah I just until two days ago I couldn't buy the pants and when I went on holidays um I went back to the Yukon I just got back last week I I'm like I, I'm going to go shopping. So I went and I bought all, you know, size me, you know, size medium shirts and size medium pants. And, and I, and I, that was the first time and I've been doing this.

It'll be 10 months tomorrow that I started doing this because I, I I'm a Libby lurker. I started this program of five weeks before the actual fall program started. So I've been on this journey for 10 months since the beginning of August. So yeah, so it's taken me that long to actually say, you deserve it. Stop know accepting less than you deserve that's what I had to tell myself you deserve to go out and buy some clothes go buy the damn medium pants like and then when I went running today I was like this is amazing it's just the small things like that's what that's why I love the atomic habits concept it's just that small things that just make such a difference like a small positive seed that you plant in the brain

and then it grows into something like yeah buy the pants you deserve them when you do the work when you do the work little by little day after day you know you. I think it's so important that you point out it's been almost a year-long journey for you because it does take time to rewire how your body's come to function, rewire how your brain has come to function. And as much as we all want instant overnight success, for most people, there's a lot more work to do mentally than there even is to do physically. Like physically you can, you crushed your goal, right? Like you, you lost more than you even set out to lose. So you crushed that. My goal was yeah, to get to the 160. And as of this morning, I'm 149. But I just I've, I've, I've learned to listen to my body.

And I thought, okay, well, if my body wants to lose more, and, and people aren't telling me I look sick. Yeah, people are telling me I look pretty good. And I feel amazing. So I'm like, I'm okay. Like I'm just, I've committed to a year. I'm going to do a year, which will be beginning of August. And then at that point, I'm going to ask myself, you know, I already have the maintenance membership. I kind of creep the maintenance a little bit every now and then. But, and I did sign up for the fall program because I figured, you know what, you recommend having that for the solidification.

And so I'm going to, you know, my year anniversary will be in August and I'm in the September program. And we'll like, I just, if I need to solidify, if I'm going to be on a plateau the whole time, so be it. Or if I bounce up and down one or two pounds, so be it because it's, it's exactly where my body needs to be. And I just feel like the journey is, I mean, I'm 51. I've, I've learned a lot about myself, like an immense amount about myself in the last 10 months, more than any other diet or weight loss program has

ever given me. Like, that's, I think the thing that's so precious about this program that I'm so grateful for is the holistic approach to it, like, yeah, diving into the mental aspect of it, because once I start, you know, tweaking the program and, and, and, and, you know, eating, quote, unquote, normally, but I mean, it's, I enjoy salads. I mean, you can ask any of my co workers years ago, I was bringing the big ass salads to work and, and the veggies and hummus and everything. So I've always been, you know, a healthy eater. I've always been someone who exercised, but I think for me that, that missing puzzle piece was the maintenance part. So that's what I think I'm most looking forward to and excited about because I'm actually not really nervous about it. I mean, once in a while I get the little monkey punching me in the head and

telling me stay in the size, large pants because you never know. And then I know, man, buy that maintenance program because that is manifesting. I love what you said there about, you know, I was healthy. I get this a lot of time. Well, I'm already healthy. I already exercise already. Well, I already whatever. And I'm like, wow, you know, that's great. But if you have weight to lose, then chances are like there are some things that you can definitely focus on. Okay. I love that you, um, I mean, not getting into the program is very real and people, I have so much respect for people like yourself who started before we start. I love that. I love that. Okay. So what is your, what would you say the secret sauce to your success is? I would have to say that being 110% committed. I mean, I'm one of your typical type A's.

I did everything you said I should do to the letter. And so that really helped. When I used to have places to go, or even now when I have places to go, like I remember going to a baby shower and bringing my lunch, my leafy greens and my protein and my seeds and my thing. And, you know, just and if I knew I was going to Toronto to visit my daughter at school, I would pack my snacks and like just being responsible and owning that I, this is what I want to do. Like committing, like just, it's funny because I, you know, I thought in the beginning I was kind of like, I remember being at the baby shower and eating my salad kind of in the corner. Um, and now I don't feel good Yeah. And now I don't give a shit anymore. You're not eating. This is like, I'm eating my good for greens. I feel amazing over here.

Yeah. You know, for me, that that was important. And plugging in was really important. Like I, I am so thankful for the guest speakers and the daily checkins and the lives and all the information. Like I just ate it up and absorbed it and just took it to heart and utilized it because all the stuff I'd done before, it just, that's, that's what was missing. Like I just, that was the one puzzle piece and, and, and mindset is huge, huge, huge, huge. I, I am a firm believer of the mind. I think the mind is the most powerful tool that we own. And so like context for me is everything. Context is everything. So if I tell myself you're a failure, you're going to gain the weight back. My brain's going to say, okay. Okay.

Yeah. Right. But if I say I'm going to nail this, you know, yeah, I ate the Doritos last night. I feel like shit this morning. Okay. I'm getting back on the, you know, on the, on with the water and the greens, I'm going to do it today. And my brain's going to say, okay. So context for me is everything. It's what I describe as an unalterable truth that stands regardless of what situation you're in. And it's, it's just that beacon, that guiding force, that guiding light that can get me back on, on track anytime

I sway, you know, and the, and the, like the food plan and the program itself is my map to Disneyland, but my context, you know, and I know you've talked about motivation and I know in the beginning, it's all exciting. And, you know, when that starts to wane, it was the discipline and the commitment that kept me coming back and kept me going every day. And the context that I held was there's freedom in my commitment. So regardless of what I did, or said or thought or what happened. It's like there's freedom in this commitment, because I know what what I need to do. I know where I need to go. I know where what I need to eat. I know when I need to eat it. I know when to, you know, listen to my body. It's just the everything that I needed was right in front of me. And I'd spent a lot of time avoiding the commitment. Because yeah, I was a bit lazy. Sure. But it scared me. It scared me because I

thought, Oh my God, like I have to commit to this thing, which means I have to do it. But there was so much freedom in that commitment because now it's like, okay, I have my focus. Now this is what I'm going to be doing. And as I love my husband, he always, he, he, he has this saying that, you know, if there, if something takes you astray and it's just like, he says to me, there's no cheese down that tunnel. So we love now. Isn't today national cheese day? It is national cheese day.

We love our cheese around here. There ain't no cheese at that tunnel. I'm not going down that tunnel. That's right. Exactly. So this tunnel, there's cheese down this tunnel. There is that much. I know there is cheese down this tunnel. So honestly, Kim, drop the mic on what you said. There's freedom in my commitment. Yeah. I thought that was a very profound statement because some people are afraid of that commitment. It feels hard. It feels whatever.

But I love that there is freedom in that commitment. I think that's our big takeaway from today. I can't believe we're at the end of our time. That went by so fast. My goodness. Before we go, maybe like a final word of wisdom to all of our members who are here joining us live today and listening after the fact people who are doing the program we are in week six halfway through the program maybe some words of wisdom inspiration or motivation from you before we go yeah well i think that the important thing is to

lean into the feels like for example with this being downsizing downsizing my was my hardest hardest thing to do because i have food waste issues i was brought up by two parents who lived on a farm and nothing went to waste and money was scarce so it was downsizing was really hard for me. So I just think, you know what, a lot of times, just don't overthink it, just do it. Just get out of your head. And, you know, follow the program, because it's the roadmap. It'll, it'll always take you where you need to go have a really, really strong why, which, me is sort of like a context like to hold. Like for me, the why for me now is that I want to be responsible for my health and well-being based

on the fact that my mom is now in a wheelchair in the hospital or in a nursing home. So I want to be proactively doing something to level up. And I think that's a good one level up. I saw something on Instagram, actually, that really spoke to me that talked about leveling up. And it said, mindful change is gradual. It doesn't turn on, it fades in. One day you notice yourself choosing your words as you speak, being at ease in your body, not worrying how others see you and feeling like you're in control of your future. Then it hits you that you've leveled up. Yeah. And I think that moment where, you know, I'm not saying this road hasn't been easy. Oh my God. It, it, it, it, it, I've had my ups and downs, my challenges, this and that, but like,

I know there's cheese down this tunnel. I know it. And, and I push into the fields and I, and I just, I feel the fear and I do it anyway. And, and I love my quotes and I have this quote from Robert Frost, and it says, the only way out is through. Yes. So just go through just barrel through it. You might screw up. Okay, well, take the lesson, move on. You might have success, you might, you know, but everything, everything is a learning opportunity that much I know. I think that's another key to my success. Every single thing

that happened when I, you know, ate the bag of Doritos the other night, and as I'm eating them going, why the hell am I doing this? I just thought, okay, why did I do it? Okay, here's what worked. Here's what didn't work. Moving on. So it's important just to stay grounded. And I am so grateful. I am so extremely grateful for having found this program. And I want to say thank you to the community because yesterday after my bio was posted, I had so many people reach out to me and say, oh, my God, your story spoke to me.

I was in tears. Like, I just I am so extremely grateful that I'm able to be able to share today. So thank you for asking me to be here because I feel so extremely fortunate to be able to talk to everybody and, and, and say, you know what, menopause happens as women, but it, it, if, if you're in that place where that little niggle in the side of your head's telling you, no, this isn't it. Like, listen, listen to that voice. I have a sign on my wall actually over there. I wish I could show it to you. It says, trust your intuition. She knows her shit. She does. She does. And so do you. And I am so thankful. You are a whole vibe. Like you're just oozing confidence.

And, you know, I'm so grateful for you for having this super inspiring conversation. Cause I know some people feel like they're just at a loss. They've tried the things. And I thought this was a very profound conversation. You're definitely going to have to pop back in after and read the comments. You have a great cheering section in the comments. For those of you who have access to the Facebook support group, cause I know some people listen by way of podcast, you should definitely go in, take some time and read over Kim's bio. Kim, thank you so much for joining me today. Honestly, truly a pleasure. Thank you. It was amazing. It was amazing. Thank you.

You're welcome. Come on. I mean, everyone has a story. That's the takeaway, right? And my hope for having our amazing guests like Kim on is that they, these conversations are resonating with you. You see some of yourself and some of the things that they're sharing that, you know, that you're not alone and that, you know, this is what I love about our guests. Yeah. I mean, not everyone lost their weight so easy peasy. Um, and if they did, it was a long journey getting to where they are. And you know, this is why I love it's why building on that midway motivation post that we posted the other day, right? The right thing set at the right time can make all the difference. And, uh, Kim shared some amazing good tidbits and takeaways with us today. Um, so thanks again to

Kim. Thanks everyone who is watching us live. Thanks for all your amazing comments and supports. So if you want to join me, uh, tomorrow, Kim and I are going to talk about the tweak this week. We're going to talk about downsizing a few more days. That's 12 o'clock Eastern standard time in the group. And then of course, Dr. Link will be back to finish or continue. I don't know that it ever ends, uh, the conversation on hormones specifically about perimenopause, menopause, and postmenopausal issues. So please join us and have an amazing rest of your night, everyone.

Bye.