The Livy Method Podcast - The 4 Main Reasons Why Your Weight Might Be Slower to Move with Dr. Paul Hrkal - Winter 2026

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

In this episode, Gina is joined by naturopathic doctor Dr. Paul Hrkal to unpack why weight loss can sometimes feel frustratingly slow, even when you feel like you’re doing everything right. Together, they explore the main reasons the scale may not be moving, including overlooked physical factors, stress, sleep, and the powerful role mindset plays in how the body responds. It’s an honest, reassuring conversation that shifts the focus away from blame and quick fixes and toward curiosity, personalization, and understanding what your body actually needs to move forward with confidence.Where to find Dr. Paul:Instagram: @drpaulhrkalwww.paulhrkalnd.com If you are in the Winter 2026 Support Group, you can check out the full video here:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2026To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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We're focusing on sustainable habits, not quick-fixing. Is it an opportunity to get curious? We're here to help people get to their health goals. One piece of time. You build and build and build. What's holding you back from reaching your weight loss goals? There could be some legitimate reasons, not just mentally, which we talk about all the time, showing up, doing what you need to do, life getting in the way,

but actually physically, there could be things going on in your body that is causing the process to be slower than, I'm going to say it needs to be, but slower than you would like it to be. Yeah, that's a better way. Here to discuss that with us is Dr. Paul Herckel. Actually, at the beginning, we call this the four main reasons why your weight might be slower to move. Is that the appropriate title? I think that's what we've used for the last five years. And I think that resonates with a lot of people because I think the question people are asking is why is the scale not moving? Why is not losing weight? So I think that's kind of where it comes from. But at the end of the day, it all comes down to what is your personal particular obstacle. And it can be different for

everyone, Gina, right? So I'm a, you know, as a national public doctor, I see patients and we personalize everything. We personalize their testing. We personalize their treatment plans, supplements, diet. We tweak things that work best for them in their current lifestyle and their current state. And you mentioned psychology. That's an absolutely massive reason why sometimes we just can't stick to a plan. And also, I do believe, and I've seen this in practice, that sometimes our mindset actually holds us back. There's this concept of biology of belief where our thoughts are actually turned into

neurochemistry and our body, Gina. And so that is huge. Yeah. And that's something that we actually won't talk about much today, but I know that other experts are talking about it. Well, you know, what's interesting is someone asked me yesterday in the live last night, do you think that someone's thoughts can actually like prevent what's sort of going on in the body? Like that actually has something to do with it. I'm like, yeah, all the time.

Like I've had clients where I'm like, just stop weighing yourself for a couple of days. Go do something else. Like take your mind off that. I do believe there are mental blockers that end up affecting us physically. Yes, absolutely. I've seen it in practice. I think that if you understand how your thought process goes into the central parts of your brain in the emotional center, amygdala where we have things like fear and then reward centers in the brain in the brain all that plays a role in converting those thoughts into actual neurochemicals into dopamine into catacolamines these are our stress hormones and they play a role in our body they have protective effects in the short term but if you're constantly feeling like you're under attack

in quotation marks then your body's going to be holding on to things a lot more because it's it's not really interested in losing weight. It's interesting in just getting through the day. It's getting through that meeting. So that's, I call that the biology of belief. And I'm the first one that's kind of coined that term, because it's been known for a long time. The translation of thoughts into neuro and physiology chemistry. I love that. I totally want to go there, but we got to put that. We can do this all the time. We like rabbit hole it up and we're like, ah, it'd be great if we could just go down this one. We'll come back to it. How about that? Let's get into the four main reasons that we've talked about and that is kind of known in the program.

Yeah, I want to say this doesn't mean that you can't lose weight. It doesn't mean that this is like, oh, I knew it. This is why, you know, I'm not going to ever be able to lose my weight. That's not this conversation. This conversation is, though, there could be an underlying, there could be underlying issues that's making it a bit more of a slower process than what you would like. If you're doing all the things, right, and it's, you literally are doing all the things.

Because there is also, there's biology of belief and there's also psychology of effort, right? Or someone's like, well, I'm not doing this and not doing this, not doing that. It's not about what you're not doing anymore. It's like what, like, what are you not doing that you need to do and be proactive? So, you know, if you are eating the foods, but not mindful about, you know, your food choices and portions, if you're still eating late at night, you're not doing anything to manage your stress and try to get better sleep and move your body.

Like people, well, we used to do this thing where we had people do a checklist and they would score themselves one out of ten. And someone would be like, I'm doing everything. And I'd be like, okay, so you have a 10 on exercise. Tell me what you're doing. And they're like, well, I'm walking my dog three times a week. I'm like, well, that's not a 10. And they're like, but that's the most I can do.

And I'm like, but you don't get a 10. I'm like, you get a 10. I'm assuming that you're doing resistance training. You're working on your cardiovascular health. Correct. And getting some stretching in yoga. Like you are really maxing out your exercise. That is not walking your dog.

three times a week as much as you'd like to believe that, right? I love that you said that, Gina, because I think we in our minds, people that are going through the program, they get in their head that they're like, you know what, I'm fully tapped out, therefore I am perfect, therefore I'm doing all the things. Yeah. But that doesn't mean you're doing the right things and the right amount at the right time and the right volume. I think that's, you know, I just really encourage my patience and I try to take this posture

myself is to have a posture of humbleness and curiosity about where you are. I think we kind of get like, oh, look at all the things that I'm doing. Yet I'm not getting the results. And then that leads to frustration because your expectations are not actually meeting the effort that you're putting in. Those two are not intersecting. If you want to lose weight and you're like, I'm doing all the things, I think sometimes we have to evaluate what are all the things that I'm actually doing.

And that's exactly what you're trying to say, I think. I've never met someone who was doing it. there has been one person that I met that was doing all the things, like actually, and then there was an underlying health issue. You know, later on, she's like, I went to the doctor. It turns out I have this thing. But I've never met anyone who was doing all of the things. Or like they are doing a lot of things, but not necessarily the things that they need to do.

And that's where you say it's probably the things you're avoiding doing that you need to do. Okay. I know, can I say one more thing? Yeah, absolutely. Because I think people that are listening to this being like, well, you know, Dr. Paul, I can't do all the things right now. I'm like, I had a patient like that yesterday where they're working and they're a single mom and they're trying to make ends mean and they're dealing with like moody teenagers and they're like

the max I can do is, you know, three times a week, this one class, you know, this one physical exercise class. And I'm trying to do all the diet stuff. You know, I think that and then they're expecting to lose weight. You know, they kind of told me and this is a kind of a direct quote. I have this like ugly fat suit on that I just want to get rid of. And so, you know, I kind of. have shared with them, you know, I think this is the ideal situation. This is where you're right now. Obviously, there's a difference. And what, what maybe you're currently doing needs to,

you can't increase the volume because you're minimal, you have your max out on time. But maybe I need to change that walk with a dog to go into resistance training or adding in cardio. So if I have 20 minutes or 30 minutes a day to work with, am I doing the thing that's the path of least resistance and most comfortable, or am I doing the thing that actually I need to be doing at this time? I think that's the key. We kind of, even within doing all the things and doing the program, we fall into, you know, what am I comfortable with? And this is actually a good segue into what we're going to talk about because we're going to talk about things like food sensitivities. And, you know, if you have chronic gut issues and you may be eating foods that, you know,

might feel good, I'm just, I need to have my sugar and my coffee. Are you willing to give that up? because that may be holding you back, and that actually helps things like decreasing cravings and decreasing overeating later in the day. There's this big knock on effect, Gina. And I think that's what I want to challenge everybody is just look at their current state. If you're not happy with the trajectory of where things are going, be curious about what we're going to talk about for the next 20 minutes or so and see if it applies to you. Or if you're tapped out and maxed out and all you can do is all you can do.

Like it's maximizing doesn't mean more. It's like what are you already doing that you can build on or, you know, do in a different way. It's also knowing your limitations. Like if you can't do all the things, then you can't have the expectations of the results that someone is getting by doing all of the things. And that's okay. And that's okay. That's okay. Okay.

I can't wait till we talk about hormones because I have this comment here and I love it. Please give me some straightforward tips on how to reverse insulin resistance so I can lose the last 10 pounds. I'm like, well, isn't that a loaded code? Just tell me how to lose weight, Dr. Paul. It's like a lot of this seems really complicated, but it's actually in the small things that you're doing every day. You want to address insulin resistance. Dr. Paul will give us the straightforward tips as possible.

It is managing your stress and getting better sleep and moving your body and making sure you're following the food plan and drinking your water and all those things. It's not really any one big thing usually. So at this point, the reason why we have this conversation is you'd lay down the foundation with the things you're already doing. But yeah, let's get into this. Yeah. So, I mean, let's answer that question since somebody asked it.

And we are going to talk about hormones and, you know, that all the four things are interconnected as we've established so many times. Okay. All roads lead back to inflammation, basically. They do. I would say that's like if it's a web and we're looking at like gut issues, we're looking at hormones, like the inflammation is right in the middle of it. It's kind of like the process that's dysfunctional.

So insulin resistance, you know, first of all, I would say is, you know, I want to confirm, do you have insulin resistance? A lot of people come into my office, and they say, I have inflammation or I have this, and it's like they've done a couple chat GPD searches or they've done a couple online searches that they've heard someone, even like me, talk about it. And they're like, ah, that's me for sure. And then, you know, I would say, first of all, are you sure you have insulin resistance? Because if you tested your fasting insulin, have you tested your hemogloomy in one C,

you may not have insulin resistance. Just because you have a little bit of a tummy doesn't guarantee that you have that. Well, that's my first point. Oh, yeah. Every health influencer on the internet is trying to tell you you have insulin resistance. Health influencers want to make sensationalist claims. Like at the end of the day, like they want eyes on their content and they want people to buy their stuff.

So they're going to make like kind of bold thing. And when you're talking to most clinicians that see hundreds of patients, they very quickly are humbled by the reality that it's not as cut and dry as what everyone kind of makes it seem like online. So just want to give everyone the permission to be like, hey, listen, not everyone has to look like that influencer and not everyone has to do that and you're going to just end up, you know, looking like them right away. Yep. So insulin resistance, I mean, if you really want straightforward answers, the number one best thing by far is having a combination of cardiovascular and resistance exercise. Those two things are like a backdoor hack to get around your body's own insulin and sugar absorption pathways.

Number two, eliminate all sugars or foods that turn in a sugar quickly, like typically carbs, even high sugary fruits are going to do that. Like maple syrup in your coffee? Well, even that, like even honey and maple syrup, like if you're using that multiple times a day because you kind of still need to stay on that sugar train. You know, I'm sometimes guilty of this too, Gina. Sometimes people need to totally cut it to allow their brain and their body to reset because it keeps you kind of wanting more. and eating more. And this is the whole danger of these like sugar-free things that have artificial sweetners in it.

They're still very sweet. It keeps you wanting more later. And the research shows you end up eating more calories, even though it's diet. So don't get tricked into that. So like I said, yeah, go ahead. Just want to say about because we're dealing with set point here and people are talking about how hard it is to change your set point because it's really about changing how your body's come to function physically and your brain and your hormones.

This is why the hormones is a big part of this because it's the way your hormones have adjusted around your current weight, that set point. So when you are losing weight, it's not just your body needing to adjust to the fat loss. Your hormones, everything need to adjust, right? So the quicker, the more things you can do to help your hormones adjust, the quicker you're going to lose the weight and the easier you're going to be able to maintain. Okay, sorry. So one and two, you want to recap those? Yeah. So exercise and cut out things that turn into sugar really quickly.

one little caveat about the sugar piece. We've all now seen those kind of continuous glucose monitors that you can put on your shoulder or something like that. Some people may actually benefit from monitoring that for two weeks to see what foods that you're currently doing all the things could actually be spiking your blood sugar. If you're still having challenges with insulin and blood sugar and their hemoglobin A1C is elevated like 5.9 or 6,

no matter what you're doing, you know, that might be something to consider. That might identify, quote unquote, healthy foods that you're eating that are actually spiking your blood sugar. And I've seen this over and over. They're like, oh my gosh, I didn't realize that like granola snack that I was having that has all those seeds in it was actually spiking their blood sugar, Gina. I've seen this in my practice. So exercise, cut out all sugars. But I might say exercise, make sure it contains the cardio and resistance.

Walking, amazing exercise, but it's not necessarily going to build that lean muscle mass, which is ultimately our. our metabolic power plant. We need more of that, especially after metapause. Number three, when it comes to insulin resistance, increase your fiber. So maybe this is where a prebiotic fiber supplement might come in. We talk about that in the primary supplements. Add that fiber in. Take one serving before each one of your meals.

That's going to help you feel fuller. It's going to help you eat less. It's going to help decrease the blood sugar spike. Sometimes people take it after meals and that dulls that blood sugar spike as well. Taking a little bit of vinegar. like eating your salads, like a vinaigarette before your meals, dulls your blood sugar spike. That's another little hack that the glucose goddess online talks about all the time.

You know, another fairly evidence-based influencer that I think is pretty decent. And then, you know, the other final thing is there are some supplements like omega-3 fatty acids that your cellular membrane, Gina, if you've been eating junk in your 20s and 30s, like a lot of high industrial omega-6 processed seed oils, they get incorporating that cellular membrane. And that's your signaling. That's where your insulin receptors are. And so if you have tons of these omega-3s,

there's a line of evidence, sorry, omega-6s and not enough omega-3s. There's a line of evidence showing that this is one of the reasons that we kind of get metabolically sleepy and metabolically kind of dull, is that we have to like re-energize that. So there's certain nutrients that can be helpful. And I think omega-3s play a role here. here. So those are five practical things that you can do over and above following the diet, getting good sleep and trying to decrease stress. Those are the obvious ones. I mean, not surprised

by any of those, right? Appal cider vinegar, for example, beneficial, not just in the morning before meals, fiber. We talked about that last week with our dietitianist, Steinberg. I think fiber is really underrated for sure, people not getting enough fiber in their diet. But again, all super practical things. You didn't tell us, I mean, outside of making sure you're getting an omega-3, which, you know, I'm sure you can share a really good omega-3 supplement with us. But nothing is like go to the store and buy yourself this magic concoction that's going to help you. These are foundational things. I gave you nothing that are not in the primary supplements that we talked about already in the beginning of this program.

So I think those are, you know, those are really practical things. Yeah, maybe let's talk about inflammation. Gina, is that a good place to go or do you want to go somewhere else? No, let's go to inflammation. I know you're watching the time just like I am. But this is where, again, you know, you think that your weight, you're having a hard time with your weight, and yet you're not doing the apple cider vinegar that we suggest, right? You're not making the components that were suggesting at your males talk about glucose goddess.

A lot of people thought she was wackadoo, but now the science is actually coming to support the order of foods and what you were eating at each meal. This is where we already talked about supplements. We already talked about omega-3. We talked about magnesium, vitamin D, these things, right? And so people will be like, well, that's not important. and then they get to a place where the weight isn't moving. And now they're like, well, tell me what to do. And I'm like, we already told you what to do in the beginning.

And so just really want to emphasis that everything we suggest, we understand you have insulin resistance, you have thyroid issues. We understand you're in menopause. We understand all of that. We factored all that in already. So that's why you're already doing so much of the basic food plan. Okay, inflammation, I think we got it. Dr. Paul's coming back tomorrow.

So one way or the other, we're going to get through this conversation. Let's start about inflammation. What is it? How do you know you have it? Can you test it? What do we do about it? And why does it play such a huge role in us trying to lose weight? Yeah.

You know, think about inflammation like smoke off of fire. You know, like if there's lots of smoke in a room and maybe your room could be like your body, your metabolism, your body cellular function is not going to work very well. It's going to be choked out. So a little bit of inflammation, if you want to light a fire, it's necessary to warm your house. But if your house is full of that smoke, it's going to have a problem. problem. And that's a good analogy for us to understand that if you have chronic unresolving inflammation from something, let's say like an autoimmune condition, like there's a

Hashimoto's thyroiditis, if you have chronic gut issues that are causing more inflammation to be created because you're eating certain foods that are more pro-inflammatory, there's this thing, there's these class of foods that are called ultra-process foods, Gina. And I know everyone and understand this because we're trying to avoid them on the Geneal Livy program. There's lots of evidence. There's so much evidence now showing that when you eat that type of food that contains higher sugars, more refined plant oils like soybean oil and vegetable oil, they cause this micro inflammation. And that basically makes your cells, which power your energy power plants, your mitochondria,

this makes them less efficient. And so when I'm talking about inflammation, I'm talking about medicine. I'm talking about metabolic inflammation. We've long known that almost every chronic health issue, Gina, including obesity, inflammation is the underlying issue. And the interesting part about obesity and maybe the frustrating part about it is that adipose tissue, fat tissue actually is inflammatory when you have lots of it. And this is one of the big benefits of losing weight and why it has such a powerful risk

reduction on almost every single health outcome. Well, someone will say I don't have influence. but they're carrying 60 pounds. You have inflammation. Low levels of inflammation. So you ask the really important question. How do I know if I have it? You can test it.

This is what I do with my patients. I test them. So if you suspect that, this would be a really good thing to work with an acrobatic doctor to see, do I have inflammation? Because I think if you talk to a lot of family doctors, they're going to say, oh, you know,

I never test for inflammation. They don't really, honestly, don't even look at that. And they only look at inflammation as it's rheumatoor arthritis or its autoimmune conditions. But there's this low grade, we call it metabolic inflammation. If you have type 2 diabetes, Gina, you have low grade metabolic inflammation. So how do we reverse that livy program? And then we start hunting for other sources of inflammation in your diet. Supplements, omega-3s, magnesium, turmeric, which is in the

secondary supplements, we'll talk about tomorrow. It is a powerful anti-inflammatory. All those plants you're eating salads, peppers have anti-inflammatory properties. I know people don't like admitting it from the ones that are skeptical of diet, but you're basically following an anti-inflammatory diet plan. Well, yeah, but you know, if anyone just alone started eating these foods and not also addressing other things, anti-inflammatory foods might not make much of a difference, but they They do in combination with everything that you are doing. Okay, I got to stop right there because, oh, my God. I'm just having this moment where we're like, okay, how do you know if you have any inflammation?

How do you address inflammation? But your inflammation can be from low estrogen levels because estrogen is anti-inflammatory. It could be from diabetes. It could be from food sensitivity, something that you're eating. It could be from the health issues that you have. It could be from your eating, um, inflammation. inflammatory foods. So it's sort of like one of those things. Like how do you address inflammation? Right? Universal things, gosh, universal things for addressing inflammation, I guess,

for the things we're doing on the program. But like, so where do you start with this? I think the first step is to do a very comprehensive evaluation of your entire metabolic profile, like a complete set of blood work, basically. This is a great place to start because it really takes away lot of the guessing. You know, do I have bona fide autoimmune inflammation? Is my thyroid sluggish because I have Hashimoto's? That's a type of inflammation, Gina. Yes. Once we test that, then we can, now we have more data because we want to be very data driven and evidence based. We can test for a marker called CRP, C reactive protein. And that is a marker that is a good general gauge of inflammation in your body. It doesn't tell us where it's coming from. It tells us,

do I have low levels? And in many cases, most people that are maybe 50 pounds overweight, 30 pounds overweight, have a low level of CRP that is below the, you know, you have some mega autoimmune inflammation, but it's also not perfect. Ideally, your value is less than one. And the lab says you should be less than five. So between one and five, I kind of know there's this metabolic inflammation. So then we start looking at all the things that we've just talked about.

So go back, re-listen to this, look at that list that I mentioned, and insulin resistance because insulin resistance plays a role in inflammation and start making a little checklist and seeing, okay, what is something that might be contributing to this? Well, I think they now know inflammation is tied into diabetes. I would imagine, sorry, insulin resistance is tied into diabetes, which is so crazy because years ago when we're talking about this or people were like, it's not a thing. It's tied into diabetes. I would imagine it's tied into thyroid issues.

It's tied into everything. Okay, so someone goes to their doctor, they think that they have inflammation or like, or would it be, I know that I'm in menopause, I have thyroid issues, Hashimoto's, I'm diabetic, I'm whatever. How do I test for inflammation? What do they ask for? There's a marker called CRP, C reactive protein. The sad part, unfortunately, is that your doctor might laugh at you because they say, you know, don't worry about inflammation. you don't have any sort of joint pain or insulin, the classic science. And this is where I honestly think, some of the information that we're talking about here on this

podcast is like 10 years ahead of its time, Gina. And you know, you've known that. I've known that. I've seen it. I've been in practice for 15 years. So I know that so many of the concepts that we're sharing right now, we're talking about inflammation, we're talking about mitochondrial functions. Most family doctors that you're going to probably go see, they're going to say, I'd no idea

what you're talking about. So you don't have inflammation. You don't have rheumatoid arthritis or, you know. So there is, you know, there are some things that we can do to test, but you might need to work with somebody. If you suspect this, you might need to work with somebody that really has a better understanding of this metabolic health and inflammation. And then the naturopathic doctor, you know, that's a bit of a shameless plug for my profession. But I think that could be a really good place to go. Well, listen, this is where you're doing all right.

If someone's listening, like, I know what? They're trying to sell me ongoing and I'm paying money. No, I'm not. This is why the program is so affordable and you have access to all of our guest experts. This is why we're already suggesting all of the things that we suggest is for a rhyme. And a reason I had a woman last week. I was talking about the science behind some of the things that we're doing. She's like, the science is wrong because it's not working for me and I can't lose weight. And I was just like, oh, my fucking God, you don't get it, right? You don't get it. It's like figuring out what is going on with you. The science behind these things is valid and real.

why it's not working for you is the question. That's the question, right? So if you're doing this, your body should respond like that. And if it's not, it's about investigating why. And yeah, you can still do all the things and follow along. But if you really truly are and you're like, something is off. You're going to know something is going on with my body. What would be inflammation? You're tired all the time. Ake. You like, is it, is there specific tells that someone would know? Okay. It's really vague. And the reason it's challenging. Bidina, because let's say I said like fatigue, it could be five different reasons. If I said brain fog, it can be hormonal issues and metapause, which is not necessarily like inflammation like I'm

talking. I'm talking about like there's some low grade thing that's happening. I've had lots of patients come to me. Part of the program, we found that they had an autoimmune condition that was kind of like brewing under the surface. We found that they had food sensitivities. They were eating quote unquote healthy foods and we had to eliminate them and their reflux went away and their gas and bloated. And their gas and bloating went away, but also their headaches. So there's things that you might say, okay, hold on, this is not really connected to anything related to what Dr. Paul mentioned. Like, for example, I'll give you a little final anecdote here.

Patients come to me and they say, I have lots of hot flashes, but I know that people have gone through the program, their hot flashes have gotten better, right? You've heard that 100,000 times. Yeah. How is by changing your diet, improving your hot flashes? You didn't do anything for your hormones. You didn't take a hormone. It's because your body's default mode, Gina, is anti-inflammatory. It's health. We unfortunately

have shifted it because of unforeseen circumstance, because of injuries, because of age, because of poor decisions in the past, in our control or out of our control. We have shifted that to the point that sometimes now we need to give the body a little bit of help to get back in the balance. But ultimately, if you change your diet, it should lose weight. it should feel better and healthier. So look at this like a health journey. Yeah. The weight journey because your journey may take a little longer

and you may need to do a little bit more work and stay in what I call the burn zone, which is doing all the things and not really getting the weight but getting all these amazing non-scale victories. So you should ask yourself, are you healthier now than when you started this program? Because that will lead to weight loss. You have to be healthy in order to lose

weight. So if the scale isn't moving for you, you're working on the healthy part so that weight loss is so much easier for you. Yeah, this is a, this is, yeah, I definitely don't want anyone walking away from this conversation being like, oh my God, I'm so discouraged and disappointed. You should get really excited that you're probably already doing the things that you need to do and you just need to do them long enough so, you know, your body can start focusing on the fat loss part of things because your body's got a lot of things to do. Okay, so you're going to be back tomorrow, we still need to touch on food sensitivities, gut issues, your microbiome and whatnot, a bit more on hormonal health. What do you want to say about that, our conversation

tomorrow? Yeah, I feel like especially people that have experienced hormonal issues, this is a massive one. I know that Dr. Olinka and other guest experts touch on this. I'm going to give it to you from kind of, again, the metabolic perspective. These are absolute obstacles that could be impact in your life. I would say I always look at where can I intervene as a clinician, where can we help out? And hormones is always one of those areas that we can maybe temporarily give you a little bit of a boost in this area to kind of help break that cycle. So I'm excited to have this conversation because I think it's really, really powerful for people that are listening. Okay. Love it. So Dr. Paul's going to be back tomorrow. Also tomorrow night, I'm going to be

doing a troubleshooting session. So if you want to join me, I'm going to go through sort of what I go through with a client to help them look for and discover like, okay, maybe this is going on. Maybe that is going on. So that's what this week is all about. Dr. Paul is going to be join us tomorrow for more. I already can't wait. Thank you so much. Thanks, everyone to join us live, listening after the fact.

You guys had questions about those basic supplements. It's in the app. We did a post on that. Secondary supplement post coming out today. So read over that. And Dr. Paul will be joining us tomorrow too. I'm not going to say finish the conversation because it never ends. Yeah, this is a big one.

But it's the best one. It's so cool because we can really get after some of these underlying things. All right. Looking forward to it. You can follow Dr. Paul at Dr. Paul Herckel over on Instagram. You can also reach out and find him through Paulherkelendee.com. Have a great day, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow.

Bye. Bye.