The Livy Method Podcast - The Hardest Part is Unlearning.

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

Most people have spent decades overriding their body's fullness signals without realizing it. Gina Livy breaks down the hormones behind why it takes 20 minutes to feel satisfied, and why that gap betw...een eating and fullness is where the real rewiring happens.This is about why your brain will always prepare you for the worst-case scenario, what self-sabotage actually looks like after a really good day, and the real reason the wellness industry doesn't want to have this conversation.This episode aligns with day 52 of our Spring 2026 maintenance program. You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be honest with you, this podcast is unapologetically a hot mess because that is what midlife feels like sometimes. Why, though? And how do we make it better? Do we all just need facelifts and gLB1s? I mean, let's talk about it. No bullshit, no wellness wangery here because we're trying to make real change and change is hard. But we're in this together. Welcome to the Livy Method podcast. I'm excited about getting into these comments about feeding the metabolism tomorrow because I personally think this is, such a unique tweak and so great for rewiring your body, rewiring your brain. It's just so effective. It's so inconvenient. It forces you to pause.
Starting point is 00:00:49 It forces you to reflect. It's only four days and brings up a lot of emotions for people, which just goes to show you how effective it is. I mean, that's what we want. We got to shake shit. up. You, you, you, you did that with the weight loss program and the way you lost weight. Now we want to just any remnants that need to be shaken up, any rewiring that needs to happen. We're trying to solidify that, right? So it's such a cool tweak. I love this comment here from Eileen. Love this tweak. Makes me so aware of what and how much I'm eating. It's my favorite tweak. Here's one from
Starting point is 00:01:25 Carolyn. Looking forward to this tweak, it's a good opportunity to really look at my portions and use those mindful steps of eating. I just, I love it. I love it. Hi, Odette. How are you? Hi, I'm good. How are you? I'm sweaty. It's very humid here. So I'm, I'm just waiting for this weather to break. But I'm, I'm happy to be here. And the comments today, like you said, I love those comments too. And we've had comments on the other end of the spectrum as well. So I think it's like this, members are having this, you know, love, hate relationship with this tweak. Like you said, it can bring up a lot of feels. So I'm loving that it's, I love where it is here in the program.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Like at this point coming off of downsizing, you know, before we make another big change in a few weeks, but it's here. It's right. It's kind of in this perfect spot. Because if people haven't been having feelings up until now, they felt good, smooth sailing. This is one of those ones that brings up a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you have to make change to see change. It's a serious fucking business, right? Like, I went off in the weight loss program this morning, excited about this week and tweak and trying to really show people like, you've done something lost your weight in a healthy way that most people just dream of. You actually have a chance of being able to maintain and sustain your weight like I have for 30 years, right? I love this comment from Karen. Sometimes after I eat to just satisfaction, 15 minutes later, I feel over full. Guess I have a,
Starting point is 00:03:00 delayed response to my eating cues. Everybody does. It's called your hormones. So it takes 20 minutes for your leptin, for your GLP1, for your MLIN, for your PPC, your MLIN, for your PPC, your all of those different types of hormones. There are sensors in your whole body, in your belly, in your brain. They are hormones that communicate and tell your body, tell you when you've had enough. We are just so disconnected from them, we don't even listen to them anymore. And we are in such a rush to scarf down our food that we don't actually take time to clue in to those cues, right? So it's not just Karen. Guess I have a delayed response. Everybody does. Got to pay attention to this and eat slower. Yes. Right. Or understand. If you cannot eat slower, then you need to make a
Starting point is 00:03:59 connection between knowing how much is enough and how much is too much, right? Like that's where you, this is where I love. You take the same portions that you're eating today. Let's say lunch. You take the same portion that you eat for lunch today. So today you ate your lunch. You ate enough to feel satisfied. Did you eat everything on your plate?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Tomorrow you're going to take that exact same portion, split it in two. You're probably going to eat the first portion, wait 20 minutes, and realize you're not really hungry for that second portion. Then you're going to be like, oh, my goodness, what if I don't get? all my vegetables in and all of all of that when you weren't thinking about that today right so that's what's so cool about this tweet i love this week too because your brain like oftentimes our brain is running the show you know what i mean our brain is running the show it's looking at that food it's thinking about you know if i don't eat all this how i'm i'm going to be hungry later and that's not what
Starting point is 00:04:52 your body's telling you that's what your brain is telling you and this week is also helps to rewire that we always talk about rewiring rewere programming, you know, having different, different thought patterns, having different beliefs. And that's what this week is about, too. So your brain can't take over. Your brain can't run the show because you are physically stopping it. You are stopping it. You're waiting and getting back into your belly.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So that's where that practice and that rewiring is going to continue to happen. And it is amazing that you know, when you let your brain catch up to your body, and you're like, oh, I just had to let my brain catch up to my body. Like it wasn't, I have to, it's not even like tricking your brain, but it's training your brain. It's training. Right. It is training your brain. And I don't even give it a thought.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Like mindfulness reasons why you gain way back, not giving your potty time to adjust your weight, which is obviously what you're doing and while you're here, situational change that throws you back into old habits and coping mechanisms and not being mindful. It doesn't take a lot of work for me to be mindful. It's so automatic. That's where we're going to start talking about auto-moving. ecoticity doing these things so they become automatic. I don't sit there every time I eat and ask
Starting point is 00:06:01 four sets of mindful eating questions. I already know when my food comes to me, whether it's too much, not enough or just right. Like I don't even need to eat it to know how much I actually need. That's how quick it comes to me. Right. Now, sometimes I'm not hungry at all. And then when I do end up eating, I realize, oh my God, I'm actually hungry. That was because I was focused on something. my brain, my brain was like, oh shit, she's really focused on something. Let her focus on this. And I wasn't connecting with my body. I wasn't asking my body if I was hungry. I was asking my brain. My brain's like, no, we got something else we're focused on. We're good. Meanwhile, my body's over here like, no, we're hungry, right? So I just know myself so well. And then self-awareness comes in during
Starting point is 00:06:45 stressful times. How am I caring for myself? How am I coping? That's what all of this is. This is your brain and your body got wired to function one way. We're trying to rewire it another way. And then we're trying to solidify that. So that's your default. That's your norm physically and that's your norm mentally. Right. And so you have to shake shit up in order to be able to do that. We're like, you know, we're like the remnants of what we still need to work on, work through. That's what we're doing. So if you have a big reaction to this tweak this week, like what is that all about? That's the work for you, right? Like, it's not convenient. It's only four days. Do you just like, oh, I don't want to do it. Well, why? Do you feel like you just, you don't need to? That's okay. That's cool. Or is there like some
Starting point is 00:07:35 resistance? What you resist per se. So is there some resistance there, you know? Here's Bab. What I discovered is I didn't need to eat as much of the second half. My stomach felt satisfied. I'm always amazed how giving just a bit of extra time when eating your brain catches up to the the true feelings in your stomach. You're just giving your body, your hormones time to communicate with each other, right? Like, yeah, isn't it amazing how your body's on your side and it can do what it can do, you know? So that's what I just love, I love that you're just in tune to that. And that's, that's the point of this. It would be so much easier to not teach this. Right? It would, it would. Like, look what we're, why are we fucking going through all of this? Because we really want you
Starting point is 00:08:22 to be able to maintain and sustain your weight. And this is what it takes, right? Like, it would just be so easy to not have to need to have these conversation. It would be so easy just to have you just count your calories, count and weigh and measure for the rest of your life. But we know that just doesn't work, right? Yeah. And one of the things I want to talk about today, too,
Starting point is 00:08:41 was that the anticipation, you know, the anticipation of this tweak coming. And that's often worse than doing the actual tweet. thinking about it. Setting yourself up to think that it's going to be, you know, difficult and convenient. Yes, it is those things. But the way that you are only focused on that part of it, like, why aren't we focused on like what Bab said, oh, I realized that my brain just needs to creep up or what Karen said, oh, I just realized, you know, I have to wait for those keys to happen. That's not what we anticipate. We anticipate that inconvenience, that difficult, those feelings, maybe of like, oh, I'm still, you know, working through this.
Starting point is 00:09:26 This is going to be hard. I don't want to do this. That's what we're anticipating. So I think that is, you know, that's a big driver here too and being able to flip that. And yeah, your brain is, is trying to protect you, right? Your brain is not trying to make you happy. It's trying to protect you. It's going to help you run through all of these worst case scenarios, the inconvenience,
Starting point is 00:09:46 the time it's going to take, the uncomfortable piece of it, not wanting those emotions to come up. your brain's not going to set you up to say, oh, yeah, it's going to be great. It's going to be wonderful because where's the payoff in that? Yes. There's no payoff in that. That's the easy. You are wanting to be protected.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You're wanting to be prepared. You're wanting to be comfortable or not be uncomfortable. And your brain is going to say, okay, it's going to be the worst case scenario. Be prepared. Be ready. Assume it's, you know, the worst is coming. Because assuming that the best is coming is just like, well, that now. Now what.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. No what. Yeah. Here's Barb. I'm one of those people not looking forward to this week's week. It's my least favorite. Yeah, but I'll dig in and give it my best otherwise, right? Like, why am I here?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah. Why are you here? You're here to do the work now so you don't have to do it later. This is all to just be able to trust when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat, without a shadow of a doubt, be 100% confident. You are not going to gain your weight back because you know how not to gain your weight back. if you do find yourself in a situation where you're dipping into old habits, the weight is coming back on, you know exactly what to do to stop that and get yourself back on track. That's what this is about. And this is what no one else in the world cares about. Because guess what? People make a lot of money off of you constantly needing to lose your weight. That's what the whole industry is based on you not losing your weight, but gaining it back. And that's what we are desperately trying to. share with you everything we've learned. This is what our guest experts come on and talk about.
Starting point is 00:11:26 We want you to not have to spend any more time focused on your weight at all, right? Just learn how to live at a weight that you feel comfortable with without having to do fucking weird shit to be able to maintain it. So we're doing the weird shit now. The weird shit is just being up good news. We're doing the weird shit now. No, we always say stop doing the weird shit. Just do what you've got to do. but this is also part of the weird shit. This is part of it. And there was a member, I didn't write this comment down or put it for it. I just thought of it now.
Starting point is 00:11:55 There was a member that said today, I think it was Janice. And she said along the lines of, you know, I've noticed that my weight is starting to creep back up. I need to do something about it. And other members said to her, yeah, me too. That happened to me too. But here we are doing something about it, not just being, not just being, like, unaware or ignorant to why it's happening. It's like, this is happening. This is why. I know what I need to do. And this is what doing the weird shit helps you get to. That's the point that it helps you get to that point. So,
Starting point is 00:12:28 you know, even though you might feel like, okay, my weight is going up, what, you know, you're not just letting it happen. You're actually taking action, making it verbal, doing that weird shit so that it doesn't keep going. Well, and we knew this, right? Like I just want to say like we know this happens. This is in our first rodeo around here. And it's like these tweaks are designed to bring up thoughts and feels. And they are added at certain points in the program for a rhyme and a reason. A lot of research has gone into human behavior. What happens after people lose weight? What is the commonalities between people who have been able to maintain and sustain their weight for over two years, which is the standard? And those people who weren't. And that is the foundation that this program has been
Starting point is 00:13:13 built on. And not just the tweaks that are reminiscent of what we do in weight loss. Like, those are so multi-layered and leveled. How you used to sustain and maintain your weight was to do another round of the weight loss program for the sake of maintenance. And now we've layered all this content and information and research and findings on top of that, right? So, so this is like peeling back layers, but really waiting for you to get to a place where you're like, I got this. I'm good. Like, I am so self-aware. Like, you don't gain. weight back and not notice. And when you do notice, what are you going to do about it?
Starting point is 00:13:48 And this is where we have, like, back on track for you, right? Or while you've signed up for these 91 day live sessions is commit to a process that's going to help you solidify your weight, help you get more in tune, help you make everything that you're doing automatic so that you can move on to a place where you can trust when to eat, what to eat and how much to eat. It's interesting because yesterday in my life, I had a woman, Mimi. Hi, Mimi. if you're still here, pop in.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And she was obviously in the wrong place, right? She had signed up for the weight loss program. Now with our new membership, you can sign up at any time and join one of our groups, right? So she's supposed to be in the spring weight loss program. It was interesting because one, her comment was I haven't lost any weight yet. Yet she signed up three days ago. Yeah. So that was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Two, she was just kind of like in me trying to explain to her where she was and like why and how it all works. It's not, it's complicated. Like this shit is complicated. And I think we've gotten a really great systematic way to share it and explain it and have people follow it. But like, I found myself being like, shit, man, so hard to explain the journey from losing the way, starting and losing the weight in the way that you did to now the rhyme and the reason as to why you are here. Like, it means something that you are here and in maintenance. you know, I just thought it was like, I was like, whoa. Anyway, I hope maybe is in the weight loss program now when she's...
Starting point is 00:15:12 I'm hoping she's in the right place. I like Kim, no. I said, keep an eye out for her. She might need a bit of help. What I wanted to say with that was, you know, when you say we have this process and we have this system in place. And I've heard like the living method, the maintenance program be referred to as the weight loss program light or the living method light, you know, the light version.
Starting point is 00:15:37 version because we're doing the same tweaks, we're doing this. And I thought that's really interesting that they see it that way, because that's all that that that's the only way you want to see it. And and following the same tweaks, following a 91 day maintenance program is just a system to help you unpack those layers like you said, peel back those layers. So it's not just about working the tweak to to have that scale move, to understand your digestion, to focus on nutrient rich foods. that's, of course, that's what you learn when you're losing weight. But now the system is in place because it's, it is, I'm going to just say it. It's a simple system to follow.
Starting point is 00:16:16 If you read the guidelines and you follow the food plan, if that's all you want to do, it's a system in place to help you peel back those layers. So it's not the living method, you know, light or the living or the weight loss program, light. Yes, the tweaks are the same, but the intention and the reason why we're doing it is so much deeper. And there's so many layers behind it. I think that's what's really important. So when you said the process in the system, that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's a process and a system to allow you to peel back those layers. I mean, we know James Clear says it was a James Clear. Somebody said it that it's not like you don't just work toward, you don't just think I have this goal. I'm going to achieve it. No, you have to have the system in place. It's like, remember I said this to my son at hockey. He's like, we're going to win our hockey game this weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And I said, well, how are you going to do that? Like, okay, you can say that, but how are you going to do that? You're going to go to practice. You know, what do you need to work on? What do you need to focus on? How are you going to feel your body? That's your system to be able to get there. And this is the same thing. This is the system and the process to get to that goal. So yes, the tweaks look the same that, you know, the food plan is familiar, but this is all your system and your process to get to that goal. Yeah, routine is the foundation of change. And you're right. The living method is the system that you are losing to lose weight and maintain. weight. And this is where I think people are really missing out. I know they juggle a lot and they have a lot going on, but not reading the science behind the program and the process, right? And maybe
Starting point is 00:17:43 you find yourself in the maintenance group now when you missed out, which you still have access to that science content in the weight loss program is really understanding the rhyme and the reason to how and why this is different. I was just saying this, this morning, there's this like, I think people out there when they're trying to learn, people come from a perspective, or assuming people are just dumb. And they don't. Like, I don't come from that. I come from you're smart. You know what you need to do. It's about figuring out why you're not doing it or understanding why you need to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like I am someone who asks a million questions. But once I got it, like once I get it, I get it. Like look out. I am good. Bit of a slow learner. Ask a million questions. And that's how I figure shit out. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And I assume that everyone else is also smart. They actually want to make change. You know better than those quick fix diets that just never worked. You just, you can't just lose your weight in that way and keep it off by literally not changing anything, not learning anything, not, you know, like this is what this is about. I'm assuming that you're smart enough to realize that there's a rhyme and reason to everything that we do. And in order to see change, permanent change, you have to make permanent change.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Right. And it really is about beyond just following the tweaks, like you said, being intentional, what you'll get out of it, what you put into it. And everyone's a little different. Like you, you might just find that you're just like, you're good, but your thing is like you, it's what's happening when you're not following. And that's where you need the support. And that's where you're learning. Right. So yeah, there's a lot to it. When you say they're like, we assume that you're smart enough to, to understand it, to know what's going on. I think it's important that our members understand for themselves that they're smart enough. I think,
Starting point is 00:19:31 I think it's so easy to have that language that's like, why can't I get it? Why don't I know what's going on? Why am I not smart enough? Why can't I figure it out? And that's what doing this systematically is going to uncover. It's going to get you to ask those questions. It's going to give you those opportunities of insight and learning. So a tweak like feed the metabolism, you might never have thought about your brain needing to catch up to your stomach.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Not that you weren't smart enough. You just didn't know that piece of it. No, it taught you that. Yeah, you didn't understand that piece of it. And that's going to come up. You know, this about prioritizing yourself. Maybe you never noticed that it takes a lot of effort to prioritize yourself up to 12 times a day when you have to sit and split up every meal and snack. Oh, I didn't realize that that was an important part of, you know, feeling my best and being successful. It's all, it's not that you don't know. It's not that you're not smart enough to get it. You just never knew it
Starting point is 00:20:24 before. And working through these tweaks, I've used the word catalyst a lot this program, actually. I feel like I've used the word catalyst this spring, summer session a lot. These tweaks are a catalyst to help bring that forward, bring that to the surface and help you learn. Yeah, I just want to remind people, since we're talking about the splitting up the meals and snacks, you don't have to split up all the meals and snacks. If you're unable to, you're unable to just already by following the basic food plan
Starting point is 00:20:46 and being consistent with that, you're already doing a lot, right? So with this week, this week you're going to take the same portion, split them into, ask the four sets of mindful eating questions, see how you feel at the end. Ideally, wait 20 to 30 minutes. it can be less. It can be a little bit more. And then you're going to consume the second portion. If you're not hungry for it, small token amount, right? If you are hungry for it, eat enough to feel satisfied when you walk away 10, 15 minutes later. If you take your portion, split it in two,
Starting point is 00:21:14 eat the first portion. You're still hungry for the second portion. After you're done, you're still hungry, go back for a third portion. You don't have to wait another like 20 to 30 minutes, right? Take it a step further, which might be interesting for you if you didn't do this during your weight loss journey is to separate your proteins from your carbs. And this is really understanding how proteins and fats feed into your satiety hormones. And what tends to happen, people eat the protein first and they're not hungry for their vegetables. What does that tell you? You're probably eating too much protein and your portions are probably too big, right? So you can separate your protein from your carbs if and when you can and then your leafy greens and healthy fats can go either way. So if I had,
Starting point is 00:21:50 if I had broccoli, chicken, side salad, and some quinoa, it would be chicken and side salad in my first portion and broccoli and quinoa in my second portion, right? But even if you can't do it, just thinking about it and have yourself eating more often makes a difference there. I just want to read a couple of comments here. That's why I told my friend who joined the weight loss program for the first time this round. It's so complicated by I told her to be patient, keep following. It will all make sense, right?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. The guidelines take us to different paths. Exactly. That's exactly right, right? I want to read this comment from Sue, too, because I think this is sort of bigger picture. I know it's a longer comment. Just want to comment on your discussion last night about self-sabotage. Two weeks ago on a Friday, I was heading off to my yoga class and then Pilates class, which followed. I had my ponytail swinging on the way to the car. I had my yoga mat and my healthy lunch packed. I felt great. Did my two classes? felt great. Did my two classes? felt great. On my way at home, I got stuck in some crappy traffic, and one of the traffic lights had me stop at a local convenience store. It was like something else took over my brain. And the next thing, you know, I'm in the store buying a bag of crappy chips. I go home, I eat the whole bag, no mindfulness at all. I think in retrospect, that was sabotaged because I actually was living my best life and my brain freaked out, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. And there's so much. like I was like I deserve that like it's so interesting to me that like we well one we use food to treat ourselves for when we're feeling really good you know those chips don't make you feel
Starting point is 00:23:27 good there's a couple of things going on ultra processed foods is addicting ultra processed foods are addicting they are created to be addicting but it's interesting just because we can eat it doesn't mean we should be eating it this morning i was thinking like tony has a fancy carb and he's got to put like ultra amazing gas in it which is super super fucking expensive. But he just cannot put crappy gas in his car. And yet he'll eat a bag of chips, drink some pop and whatever. He's got so much mad respect for his car that there is no way he is ever putting normal gas in it. Like he just, I don't know what would happen. It's not like cars going to explode, stop running, but it'll mock up the engine. And like here we are putting all this
Starting point is 00:24:09 kind of food in our system. I'm going to turn my phone off. All this food in our types of food in our system that just don't make us feel good. Like, it's kind of like, it's so weird that we do that when in reality, right? Like, you wouldn't feed an animal something that they, like, you wouldn't feed your dog crappy food. You wouldn't feed your young kids crap, like when they're babies. You wouldn't feed your baby crappy food. Now, as we get older, of course, we have treats and sweets and processed foods and all of that. But it's just really interesting our take on just because it can go in our mouth doesn't mean that it's you know what I mean we should be eating it but those foods are really addicting and that's that kind of like what is that about why are you feeling super fantastic and then
Starting point is 00:24:52 you go and eat something that's going to make you feel like garbage physically and mentally it's pretty interesting that we do this so I don't I don't know if you said it last night on the Q&A session I can't remember or if it was this morning on the tweak that you did in the weight loss group I can't remember because I feel like I've watched so many of your segments in the last 48 hours But you said something about anticipating the dopamine hit from that food. So what we're doing is we're going, we're select, maybe it was the Costco hot dog. I can't remember. We're anticipating having that food.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Our brain is going to get a dopamine hit because of we're having the thing that we think is going to be delicious. Yeah. And that, again, is your brain running the show. But what if we let your belly run the show and you said and you anticipated how you would feel after you ate that food? So not anticipating the dopamine hit you're going to get from eating the chips, but anticipate how your belly is going to feel after you have that. Maybe that's the rewiring that has to happen, the conversation you have to have with yourself, like, oh, these are going to be delicious.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I can't wait and be like, oh, these are going to make my tummy hurt. I don't want it. You know, maybe that's the thing that needs to flip the switch. Yeah. And it's association. So now you need to pay attention to how you physically felt when you had those chips, like really go into that feeling. Oh, I did not. How were you feeling before? Like you could just, just reading it. You could feel how fantastic you felt, right? I'm yogaing. I feel good. I got my
Starting point is 00:26:19 snacks. I'm amazing. And then how you felt when you had those chips, we tend to just let it go, let it go. Tomorrow's a new day. Uh-uh. This is an opportunity for you to rewire that. And this is where I would actually take some time and be like, what happened there? Was I triggered? What was going on in my mind? There had to have been something going on in your mind. And where you were choosing get chips don't chips okay maybe i'll have them maybe i'll have a couple maybe i'll just give it like what was going on there and ask yourself what was that about like what was it something bigger something more subconscious that you're dealing with in your life right now that you're kind of keeping at bay so yes you are proud you feel fantastic but you know i got a kid who's got mental
Starting point is 00:27:01 health and addiction issues so it's always it's underlying it's under everything right you're dealing with grief it's under everything you're stressed about your job it's under everything you're stressed about your job, it's under everything. So is there something deeper, which is like, and what did those chips represent? And then how did you feel? Like, you want to make that connection. Oh, I felt, ugh. So once you make that connection, that's that new rewiring. The rewiring is chips make me feel bad, not chips are fun and wonderful and yay. It's like, oh, oh, yeah, don't make me feel good. So then next time you see a bag of chips, your visceral reaction isn't like, oh, yummy.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's like, oh. And then that's going to be the cue that your body is helping you being like, don't, like there's a reason why we have taste buds and smell so that we don't eat rotten food. There's a reason why you got sick on that alcohol or whatever and just the mere thought of it, you can't, you'll never have it ever again. Like mine is lemon gin. Never in my life will I ever, ever, ever have lemon gin, ever. Because I got so sick on it.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I can never forget it. But you are making these micro associations as you go. You don't have to eat so much chips you you throw up and it makes you sick for you to avoid them. Just recognizing, oh, yeah, did not make me feel good. I'm not having that again. Now, you might have the chips again. Then you will feel the same. You need to recognize that. Okay, chips, not good. Don't make me feel like. It's like Pavlog's dog. You, you are trained and triggered and all of that. So you've been trained that chips are a treat. They're yummy. They're good. They're this whatever. But, they're not really because we forget the berating and scolding and punishing them
Starting point is 00:28:41 happens after and how gross we feel after we're done eating them. And so that's, we need to connect with that and be intentional about connecting with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited about this week.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I know you are. I love my energy because I just, I'm on this thing that no one is bothering to teach this to anybody. No one is bothering to talk about any of this. No one has the time and the energy. No one can make enough money doing it so they don't bother doing it. This stems from going to the obesity conferences that I go to and I hear these speakers on behavioral therapy and I'm like, why aren't we doing more of this?
Starting point is 00:29:17 They're like, well, how are we going to do it on mass? And how do we make money from it? You know, like just no one is interested in this conversation because they don't know how to capitalize on it. Now, listen, I'm a business owner. I figured out how to make money, right? Like need money so I can hire people to have conversations and, you know, design an app. And, you know, like people don't realize things like the app costs money just to use it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's not free. Like, so yes, I've learned how to create a business out of it. But most people, only because of the scale and the numbers that we have, most people cannot do that, nor do they care to because it takes a lot. Like this is, this is like been how many years in the making, right? And so this is why no one's bothering to talk about this stuff. And this is exactly the stuff that we need to start having, especially at our age. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We know better. We know the old way doesn't work. So let's like, I don't know about you, but I want to feel my best. I want to look my best. I want to live my best years. I want to live my longest, healthiest years. I want to make the most of the time that I have on this planet. And like I don't want to add to how hard life is by making shitty choices for myself.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know you got it. I know you get it. I want to feel 27.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't mind looking. I don't mind looking this age, but I want to feel that age, you know, like you do you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, my mom, man. She like, you know, she goes, she goes camping. She goes here. She goes there. She stays up late. She can party all night. I fucking in bed by 10. And I just am like, God, how are you doing that? Because she's social and she has a great life. And she, you know what I mean? Like I just, I want to have energy like that. I feel like I've always been tired. But yeah, I want to, I want to have energy to live my life. I want to enjoy my life. I feel like I've been stressed now for a really long time. And I want to like. I want to feel healthy and strong again, and I haven't in a really long time. You will. Yeah, we will, because we're going to keep showing up. I'm motivated.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm motivated. Thanks, everyone for joining. That's pizza. Rots my guts. I know not to order it. I know. Yeah. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Wine. Makes me feel like shit and depressed every time, but. I'm the same. It's one of those things that you love to hate it and you just, yeah. Yeah. I want to go back. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Amazing. Thanks. Okay. Thanks, everyone. Have a great week. See you later. See you soon. I'll see you soon.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Okay. Bye. Thanks a day. Bye, everyone.

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