The Livy Method Podcast - The Tweak This Week - Spring 2025 - Week 11

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Join Gina and Program Manager Kim as they break down and dig into the tweak we see in week 11 of The Livy Method.The Tweak This Week? Personalizing The Food PlanIn this episode, the conversation centres on using everything you've learned to personalize your approach while staying grounded in the Livy Method. It’s a week of refinement, where the plan remains the plan, but your choices reflect your own rhythm, needs, and goals. Whether you’re continuing to focus on fat loss or shifting into maintenance, the focus is on listening to your body, embracing flexibility without abandoning structure, and understanding that not being hungry doesn’t mean you’re off course. From adjusting your meal timing to recognizing summer’s unique challenges, this episode is a thoughtful reminder that trusting yourself is part of the process, not a departure from it.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodspring2025To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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This is an important week because it's personalized in the plan. I don't want to waste any time. I want to get right into it for those of you who have some questions about it. Kim has compiled some of the more frequently asked questions and a whole list are really good ones that I want to make sure we have time to run through today. So hi Kim. Hi, how are you? Good.

How in general, let's start with how people feel about this week's tweak. I would say in general, good. We had a couple of people that were, I think, at the beginning of the week, specifically when the guidelines first came out on Sunday, that were feeling a little bit nervous about this leading into old habits, this leading into habits of them going long periods of time without eating, this leading into habits of them eating what they like versus what their body needs in the moment. So I feel like there was a little bit of nervousness about that that seems to have died down. I think in general, we had quite a few people that were really excited to just see everything

that they've learned come together and really recognize that, oh, I actually am in tune. And they didn't realize it when they were following the food plan because they were making the choices that were lined out in the food plan and realizing now that they're having to make that choice, that they really have done a lot of work and are in tune and more confident with what their body needs and when. Great. So I want to go through sort of what the tweak is, it isn't, and I wanna get into answering some of the questions that you've added to my sheet here. So first of all, the main thing about this tweak

is it helps you get, so it's all about learning when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat, right? We always say this a million times, it's what you're learning and working through, unlearning, relearning, learning, that not only help you lose weight, but to be able to maintain and sustain it in the end. That's really what this is all about. And so eventually you're going to have to trust when to eat, what to eat, and how much

to eat. So when it comes to when to eat, your hunger levels can fluctuate day to day. This is why counting and weighing and measuring, it works, but it's not great for maintenance because what your body's needs can change day to day. In terms of what to eat, this is where you are still very much following the components. So someone just asked, instead of skipping a meal, can we skip one or two of the components of the meal? Ideally, not really. So you still want to focus on protein at breakfast. You have options for your snacks for your lunch and your dinner.

You still want the components of protein, vegetables, leafy greens, healthy fats. If you're going to add in any heavier carbs, you would be best to have those at lunch, but there's no longer a star of the meal. So if we take it back to when we started to split up the meals and snacks, when we were separating the proteins from the carbs, you were starting to understand that protein hits differently. Protein and fat feed into your satiety hormones, make you feel more satisfied. And so then when we did our revamp, right, we added those slight variations, adding the protein and fat to the fruit in the morning, for example, bumping up the protein slightly, like you're taking

everything that you've learned. And now this week, you're kind of implementing all of it. And then of course, when it comes to how much to eat, you're continuing to ask those four sets of mindful eating questions and eating just enough understanding that you are looking to continue. So portions absolutely matter in this case. The biggest thing about this tweak is you no longer have to force yourself to eat if you're not hungry. So you're going to check in at every single meal and snack time from the original food plan. That's the only thing that's the same. Right. So you're going to check in at breakfast, check in at morning snack, check in at lunch, check in at first afternoon snack time, check in at second afternoon snack time,

and check in at dinner. And it says if you need to eat, right, and then you're going to follow the guidelines in terms of what to eat. And so you're going to go high protein for breakfast, you have options for your snack, you're going to make sure you get those components in at lunch. So that doesn't change, right? So that answers your question. Instead of skipping a meal, can we just have one or two components of the meal? No, you still are following the guidelines. So if it's lunchtime, you can have a token amount. So you'd only choose not to have a meal or skip it if you're not hungry at all. So that sounds like it could be a could eat. So you're not really all that hungry, but you could eat in which you'd want to take those components and have a few token bites, right? So then you're going to assess if you

need to eat, could eat or should eat and then should eat. So we used to say half hour to three and a half hours without eating in between meals and snacks. Now you get a little bit more wiggle room. So four hours, you could do four and a half, five, but I wouldn't push it any more than five. And I wouldn't be, I wouldn't make that routine, right? So you have a little bit more wiggle room if you're not hungry to go, unless you should eat. So those are the sort of the, I know,

hopefully that made sense. I know it made sense. Cause you guys know what I'm talking about. And there's whole guidelines there. So that's what it is and what it isn't. We all clear on that? Did I miss anything there, Kim? I don't think so. I think just like you said, the emphasis is on you're still making the choices based on that. And we've had a couple of people ask, like, is this going back to the original

food plan then? It's not. It's just checking in at those times. You're still taking all of the different tweaks that we've gone along the way, the changes to your snacks, all of those things into consideration when you're choosing the foods that you choose. But it's the structure of when, that's when you check in, that's when you kind of want to, and you, some days you may have two snacks, some days it'll be one snack, depending on where you hit.

The other day for the first time ever, I think I didn't eat lunch, which was really weird, but I think that might've been a timing thing, but then I realized, oh, here's my snack time, and I'm gonna eat some leafy greens because I didn't have that. I'm gonna eat my healthy fats, and you really start to recognize what you need to include

kind of based on what you've done already that day. Yeah, here's a comment. What about just having a fruit for morning snack or can I have protein? Yeah, so off the heels of last week in our revamp, for your morning snack or your afternoon snacks now, you can just have fruit if you feel like that's what you need, but you can also combine it with a protein and fat

at this point, it's beneficial. So the other day I was saying, you know, it was really hot and I just wanted just some watermelon. I didn't really feel the need to add a protein and fat with it, so I just had watermelon. But you could add protein and fat. So it's the same pool of snacks from what we introduced last week during the revamp, right?

All right, I wanna get into these real quick. First question, do we continue with this plan until fall? I'm signing up for the summer and the fall and probably more after that. Yes, ideally, if you're looking to still lose weight, you will continue to personalize the plan in between groups. There's a lot of benefits to that. We're going to talk actually with Dr. Beverly David tomorrow about some of the benefits behind that. Just kind of seeing what you've learned,

seeing what you've got, learning to trust yourself. It does give you a little bit more flexibility and then you're gonna wanna completely reset in the fall. Now, if you are concerned about going at, for lack of a better word, on your own, make sure you sign up for our summer club. That's where our team is gonna be there in the summer to answer any questions that you have if you're interested in that.

And then I want to move down to someone who was talking about, can someone clarify something for me since this is my first program? Every time you join a program, whether it be your second or 13th, you're starting over from the basic food plan. Yeah, you are starting the program again. It's the same program every single time, but you have changed. Your body has changed physically, you have changed mentally, and so that's where the effectiveness lies. The body loves routine,

but you're bringing forward everything that you've learned from previous programs. So the program is the same, and you wouldn't want it to change because the same program works, whether it's your first time or 25th time, it's you that has changed physically and mentally. So yes, you're going to do a complete reset in the fall. Did I miss anything there? I think just maybe this is the reason if people look back to why we weren't too concerned about people being perfect when they were doing the tweaks, especially if it was your first time, because you know,

every time you do it, you're going to pick up on different things and your body's going to respond differently. It's a different opportunity for you to dig in and kind of do better at what you felt like you couldn't, you didn't do well the first time around. Yeah. So Amy's back now. She's asking, can I just have protein and no fruit then at morning snack? Yes, you absolutely can. So this is where you're going to want to go back and be clear on the guidelines that we followed for week nine and 10 in terms of those snacks, because we literally listed all the alternatives. So you can have fruit, you can have a boiled egg, you can have something else. You shouldn't not have fruit because you think it's high in sugar

and you're avoiding fruit. So you should really be thinking about, hence that post on maximizing your food choices this week. You should be really thinking about, of the options available to me and within the guidelines, what is most appealing to me in this moment? Same thing, like there's no star of the meal anymore for lunch and dinner, but if you feel like more vegetables than protein, then have more vegetables than protein. If you feel like more protein and lighter on the vegetables, go lighter on the vegetables, right? So, so when it comes to your snacks, that's where you have that flexibility. Do I want fruit? Do I want to add a pair with a protein and fat? Do I want

yogurt instead? Do I want, you know, a boiled egg? What do I want vegetables? What do I want? Right. So that's that flexibility. Okay, can we continue to follow I answered this one actually on the Monday live. So I don't want to spend too much time on this. Can we continue to follow the revamp or even the original food plan this past week was a struggle with multiple events and barbecues and the scale has gone up I don't think I'm ready to personalize the plan. So this this I talked about pretty extensively on Monday. The problem here is not the tweak this week, it's how you're navigating the multiple events

and the barbecues and why the scale has gone up, which could be the heat, it could be a variety of things. If you're following the program at all, the scale goes up, it's not real weight gain. So chances are, if you feel like the scale's gone up, it's not doing the basic food plan or the revamp. It's not the tweak this week. It's what you are doing at those barbecues and at those multiple events. So if anything, this gives you more flexibility. You don't want to go back and repeat

steps. This is like the king and queen of all the tweaks. This is exactly where you want to be and what you want to be following in order to get and keep that scale moving. So the thing here is ask yourself, why do you want to go back to a tweak? Now you might have perceived that that tweak was working better for you. It worked better for you because of the sequencing, the systematic nature of the Libby method. If you go back and just pick and choose whatever tweaks you want to do, it's not going to work in the same way, right? So, so this is where you got to say, okay, what, make a plan for how I want to navigate these barbecues and events and those types of things. Yeah, I was going to say that. I think this is the exactly why you want to do the personalizing

the plan because for the rest of your life, these things are going to happen. And personalizing your plan is a good opportunity it's nice and flexible for you to dig into that so challenging yourself to actually try to figure out what you need is exactly probably what you need to do in a moment like that. Yep here's an odd question I'm gonna answer here Lucy said my doctor told me to stop eating eggs every day as it causes high cholesterol that's such horse shit. It's so old. Tell him to get his ass out of the 1900s

and move it along already. No, ask me how I really feel about that. See, eggs got really vilified in like the 80s and it caused a huge detriment to our egg farmers. And it's just, it's not true. And yes, eggs do have cholesterol as does meat as do a lot of things that you are eating. Eggs are full of great fat that your body needs and they do not cause high cholesterol. What causes high cholesterol is lack of good fats like your omega-3s, like

your fish that you're eating, your flax. So you need to get the problem is when you're getting all of your fat through saturated fats and and but meats and dairies and butters and that's the only fat that you're getting in your diet. This is why it's important to supplement with an omega-3 if you're not getting enough good fats like your omega-3, your avocados, your nuts, your seeds, all of those have really good fats. Plus stress plays a role in cholesterol, your hormones as you get older. If you're older my age, and they're checking your cholesterol going up and your doctor's blaming it on eggs, they need to learn a lot about what's going on with your estrogen levels and hormone

because that alone can affect your cholesterol levels and has nothing to do with eggs. Also high sugar, we're starting to realize it's not the fats that can cause cholesterol, it's high sugar that can cause cholesterol. So yes, can we quote you, Gina? Yes, you can. I just remember that time and the egg farmers really got screwed over

and that was that during that low fat, no fat era. So no disrespect to your doctor, I'm sure they're amazing, but that is a really old school. Okay. Okay. Are we eating one afternoon snack or two? Is this the personalized please? I'm a bit confused. I'm still happy 17 pounds down, close fit, better,

more energy and definitely more in tune with my body. Okay. You're checking in at every single meal and snack time and assessing if you need to eat, could eat or should eat. So if one day you feel like you need both afternoon snacks, have them. If one day you only feel like you need one, that's okay too. I want to move down because this kind of goes with this. This comment from Sandra, and I'm sure Jody had all these like LinkedIn or Jess had them all set up here. This is from Sandra.

I've been personalized the plan and checking in with each meal and snack. I find that I'm hungry enough to eat at each check-in. It means I'm eating six times a day and I actually really like it that way. I'm still losing weight on this scale and feeling great. I understand I'm supposed to change it up each day. No, you're not supposed to change it up each day. You're supposed to be in tune to your body's needs.

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hungry but I've heard Gina mention more than once that it's not normal or maybe that's not the word she used to eat six times a day. If I continue to check in and I'm still hungry at those times, is it reasonable to continue eating this way? So it's not normal in the sense that your body doesn't need to eat six times a day. That doesn't mean that that doesn't work for you. Smaller meals eat more often. A lot of people will say that's not good for you, but that's because they're not factoring in the good nutrient rich foods that you are consuming. So people are thinking like eating and snacking

and high sugar and all of that. And so if that works for you and because you're scheduled, great, but I don't want you eating that way because it's just easy and routine. I want you to eat that way because that's how you feel like you are actually hungry, and that works for you. So if there is a day where you feel like you are actually hungry, right? And that works for you. So if there is a day where you're not really all that hungry, because there's a difference

between habit and actual hunger, right? Like are you actually hungry at lunch or is this when you always eat lunch? So you like the idea of lunch and you brought something yummy, but if you actually get out of your head and into your body and your belly about it, am I actually hungry for this? Right? Like that's where we, that's where we want you to go. We really want you to dig deep. Kim, what'd you go to add to that? Um, I think too, the, my, what stood out to me there is I, is I feel hungry. So to your point, if that is exactly what you feel, that's how you're going to feel some days, that's

going to be what happens. But you may notice we've only been doing this for a few days, so it's not really a good sample of what things are going to look like long term. And you'll probably notice with the foods and choosing different foods is also going to affect that. Like you might find in the winter time when you're eating heartier things, all of a sudden like, oh, I really don't need that second snack in the afternoon because I had this hearty lunch that's really sticking with me. And I think that's probably going to be a big thing. But as long as you're being in tune to it, then you're doing six times a day this week. Next week, it might end up being four times a day because you're not as hungry. And just if you continue to be in tune to that, that's the important piece. Yeah, I see your question here. I always forget about the morning snack. Could that be stalling my progress? Yeah, absolutely it could. Right? Like the right now,

where we're at, if you choose not to eat the snack because you're not hungry for it, that's a little different. But throughout the program, I'm very particular about that there's a rhyme and a reason to the food plan, right? Whether you choose to go high protein for breakfast or not at all, your energy levels start, your glycogen levels start to dip and your body will dip into utilize your fat reserves. We're trying to get your body to believe that it doesn't need that excess fat. So every time you're dipping into it, every time you miss that snack, you are reinforcing that your body needs the fat. And that's really mixed messaging. You can lose your way through starving and depriving and eating less and exercising more.

The problem is that that reinforces that your body needs that fat and then your set point, your weight gets set at a really high point. The living method is all about addressing set point, which is science, which is real. And so it's all about your body feels the need to store a certain fat. We are giving the body what it needs to address that and then helping the body specifically focus on fat loss and by releasing that fat in the simplest of terms that no longer serves a purpose. So it's kind of like if you're building a house and you're building a foundation

and you're just, there's holes in your foundation, right? It's just really shaky. That's not the, you wouldn't, if you're, if your bricklayer was like, oh, we're missing a brick every other day. It's fine. Like, is it fine really that your house has a whole bunch of your bricks have holes in it if you want to think about it that way. So consistency and this is what we mean by consistency is really important. Consistency is more important over being perfect. So you can have a day where you're eating all your meals and snacks and then and then you know Choose to eat a burger like eat a burger and fries for dinner or have some chips later on What's more detrimental is to be skipping meals and snacks throughout the entire process? So that's that's what we mean by progress over perfection Like if you add in extras, don't worry about it as long as the things that you're doing each day add up So, I mean absolutely can this consistency is key and consistency is probably one of the most important things that you're doing more things day to day as possible, but especially with

the rhyme and the reason behind the food plan. Otherwise you're just eating less and you're constantly skipping meals and snacks, right? So if you sign up for our next program, I would double down on that, like your life depends on it. What you can't do is not do the things and then stress out about the results you're not getting because you're not getting the things. And there's a lot of science behind the program, right? So it's different now, like choosing not to have your morning snack because you're not hungry for it in this week is different than constantly missing your snak, your morning snack all

along, right? Well, I'm forgetting. Yeah, forgetting is a key part of that. Why are you forgetting? That means you're not checking in if you're forgetting it. So, you know, during this tweak, if you're choosing to not have it because you don't need it, you're not hungry, you don't feel you need it,

that's very different than forgetting because a lot of us got here where we are today, I say us because it's me, for going long periods of time without eating and then you kind of have those cravings later on and things like that. So really being in tune, making sure you set some timers if you need to, specifically this week when your routine might be a little off or feeling off because you're personalizing the plan, those timers for checking in can be really important. Yeah.

So I'm talking about the snack, the fruit snack again, I'm not clear on fruit, how much how often can I have it versus my morning snack. So we introduced this in week nine and week 10 of the program. So you've always been able to add fruit to your meals like fruit at breakfast, although protein is the focus, fruit for morning snack fruit at lunch, for example, berries on a salad. That's always been part of the program. The flexibility now is adding it in at your other snack times as well. So now you can add fruit in for morning snack, also in your afternoon snack as well, especially with the summer. And this is where the summer tweaks come in. You want to decrease heavier carbs and bump up your fruit intake. Fruit is quite easy to break down, gives the body the energy it needs without working too hard. So you don't have to be having

fruit and adding it in if you don't feel like it that day, but you have a lot more flexibility in terms of adding in that snack. Here's another one. Good morning. I'm eager for today. I'm laser. I'm so laser focused on this tweak, much more than I was my first round. Good, I love that, that makes sense. I really want to continue with weight loss between programs. Is this tweak what it will look like for that? Is this what I need to do to keep moving forward? Yeah, ideally. So I'm gonna give you another option, right?

Like if you wanna be proactive and go after that scale throughout the summer and you're gonna be waking up every day expecting that scale to move, you wanna personalize the plan because that scale throughout the summer, and you're gonna be waking up every day expecting that scale to move, you wanna personalize the plan because that's your best option, especially if you're gonna reset and do the program again with us in the fall.

I highly suggest that you personalize the plan. Check in at every single meal and snack time, right? Be super mindful about your food choices, double down on the four mindful eating questions, maximize your ass off. Like, what's your intention? What you can't do is like, I wanna lose weight, but then you're not doing the things to lose weight

and then get upset on this scale. So you have to decide, are you going after the scale? Are you gonna continue to focus on wanting to see that scale move? Or are you gonna take time and just maintain throughout the summer? Cause that's okay too. The summer short and sweet, you might be like,

I just wanna maintain throughout the summer, that's all I wanna do The summer's short and sweet. You might be like, I just want to maintain throughout the summer. That's all I want to do. And then I'm going to get back at it and seeing the scale move in the fall. Now, that doesn't mean that you might not see some weight. It doesn't have to be one or the other. But I think you have to be intentional about that.

And so I think if you are looking to continue to see the scale move and you want to be intentional about that, personalizing the plan, the best way to go. Now there are people who are like, I don't have the capacity. I got a lot going on in my life right now. I just like the routine and what you can follow the basic food plan. Continue to personalize the plan this week and next though, and then make a decision. Okay, I'm just going to, I'm just going to do the basics.

So your body loves that routine too. It's not as proactive when it comes to moving the scale as personalize the plan at this point. But if you just don't have the capacity for doing that, then you can just work the basics if you want. So if you have options there, but if it was me and what I would do with my clients is personalize the plan in between the break.

I think that's the best way to go. Kim, your thoughts? Yeah, I love what you said about making sure you personalize a plan for the next two weeks because I guarantee however you were feeling about it today, which is only on day three of it, you're going to feel different by the end of next week. And I actually find personalizing the plan easier than following the basic food plan because it feels more in tune and it feels more natural.

And that's sort of the point. You pick up on all those tweaks and the lessons and as you get used to it, this is going to feel more comfortable. It's basically like taking, if you went to go see a nutritionist or a personal trainer that gives you a nutrition plan that's designed for you in particular,

your body, your needs, your lifestyle, it's you creating that for yourself out of everything that you've learned over the past 10, 11 weeks that we've been together. So this is really long-term. This is not just the easiest way to lose weight because it is in tune, but it's actually gonna be easier for you to follow

because of it. But you have to give it a chance and try if you really want it to get to that point. Think about other diets you've done. You've just counted and weighed and measured. It doesn't make any freaking sense. Now you've learned so much about yourself, right? And that's what this is about.

Also, it's good to see what you got. I wanna read this one comment, but I'm talking to, I will be mindful between programs, especially when I'm hanging out with Mickey. I think if you're going to what, Disneyland or Disney World or whatever, I love that. I mean, that's destination food stuff. They're gonna have tons of food stuff.

It's like the C&E here. We go to the C&E and we eat all the pickled ice cream and all this stuff like that. Like you can go and you're making it, like you can on either side of that choose to be like, I wanna focus on losing my weight and then I'm going to go away and I'm going to enjoy these things when I get back and get back on track and you know then keep moving forward so um do do do do hi Kathy okay

this last one from Trudy before we go this week seems to be bringing up some old diet mentality for me yeah it is this is a good it's, it's a good tweak to be like, okay, what do you still have to work on? What do you still have to work on? Hi, buds. I'm almost done. Like one minute. I'm finding I wanted to eat for reasons other than hunger.

Last night I was out for dinner with my daughter. I chose well, but still overate on the drive home. I was thinking about what I could eat next, even though I felt stuffed. The good news is I didn't eat, but I was left feeling agitated. Guess this is the stuff I really need to work on. Life won't always be structured with strict guidelines

of what and when to eat. So if I want a forever body size, I'll have to delve a little deeper. And so those feelings are coming up, even though you are following all the structure, right? Like this is not you doing your own thing, checking in every single meal and snack time. There are specific things that you are eating

at those meals and snack time, although a bit more flexibility. There's guard rails in terms of how long you're going in between meals and snacks. You're still not eating at night. You're still drinking your water. You are still trying to manage your stress and get better sleep and move your body.

And yet just the idea of it being left up to you is bringing up the feels, right? And again, these tweaks are so much more than what you are eating. And when they bring up all the feels, and yes, I did say pickled ice cream, they had it at the CNE last year. So that's what this is about.

I will go back and listen to the Monday and Tuesday lives this week, because especially the Monday one, I talked the Monday and Tuesday lives this week, especially the Monday one. I talked a lot about this tweet this week and kind of like how this is an insight into how you're not going to navigate and the things that you need to still work on and work through before you get to that place where not only have you lost your weight, you spent time maintaining your weight, but you're able to live your life. The end game is you being able to maintain and sustain. So this is a big one where those thoughts and feels can pop up.

What else? Oh, I guess we got to talk about next week. I was just going to say next week, next steps would be like the next, the last, the last little thing we want to cover. So just looking ahead, what does everything look like if you're continuing to lose and then what we have to come next week with all things maintenance? Yeah. So I think we have a guest. We have a guest next week who's in maintenance. I know Odette's going to join us.

Yeah. We have Robin Hahn is coming to join us again. She's going to maintenance. I know. I knew you'd be excited to talk to her. I love her. I know. She's coming on Tuesday to join us and's been in maintenance. I know, I knew you'd be excited to talk to her. I love her. I know. She's coming on Tuesday to join us and she's in maintenance. And so we can have that conversation with her. And then Odette is coming to the tweak this week and to join us to talk

about maintenance as well. So. Great. So we're going to talk about the maintenance program, but for everyone else looking to lose weight, you're still personalized in the plan. So that's the tweak next week. That's why you got to be super clear on it this week, still personalizing the plan. Sometimes we have people who are like, if people are maintaining their weight, where are they? How can we never hear from them? They're in the maintenance program. So we have a whole 91-day guided maintenance program.

We have conversations over there. So that is where our members who are working on maintaining their weight are. We don't have that conversation here because here we're focused on losing and over there is where we are focused on maintaining. So if you're wondering what's going on there, but Odette who manages that group, she's going to come in, talk about it. We'll have Robin Han come in and join us and talk about her journey in maintenance. So that will give you a little bit of a taste of that. Okay, great. I just want to remind everyone, I'm going live tomorrow with Dr. Beverly, and we're going to talk about a lot of the thoughts and feels that are coming up this point.

And then on Friday, there's no lives on Fridays for the last couple of weeks of the program. So heads up on that. Thanks Kim for joining me. Thanks everyone who joined us live. I hope you found that super helpful. Be curious, be curious about this. See what you got.

Like that's, you don't wanna be stressing. If you're coming into it with stress energy, why? Why? What is it that you gotta focus on and work on? So, so yeah, final words, Kim, anything you gotta add? Just give it a chance. Give this a chance. You know, if you're feeling skeptical about it,

give it a try. We, you've got the whole team here for support. If you feel like it's not going well and you constantly need to ask for more support, then we're all here till next Sunday and then we're gonna be in the summer club for the whole summer until the fall program starts. So you're never gonna be left without that safety net

of our team to ask questions if you're really unsure about something or you don't sort of know what to do next steps if you start feeling out of capacity. So just make sure you lean in on the team and use us as a resource as well as all of that information in the groups that we've shared. Good stuff. Love it. All right. Thanks, Jen. Thanks, everyone. Okay. We'll see you later tomorrow. Thanks.

Bye. Thanks. Bye.