The Livy Method Podcast - The Tweak This Week - Spring 2025 - Week 12

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Join Gina, Program Manager Kim, and Maintenance & Mindfulness Program Manager Odette as they break down and dig into the tweak we see in week 12 of The Livy Method.The Tweak This Week? MaintenanceIn this episode, Gina and Kim are joined by Odette to talk all things maintenance—the mindset, the method, and what really shifts when the focus moves from losing to sustaining. They reflect on member stories, including Robin Hahn’s powerful share on making the maintenance program personal, and why it's not about doing less but rather showing up differently. They explain how the 91-Day Maintenance Program is designed to help the body adjust to its new weight, while also reinforcing new routines, building trust, and continuing the mental work that supports long-term stability.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodspring2025To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Gina Livi and welcome to the Livi Method Podcast. This is where you'll have access to all of the live streams from my 91 Day Weight Loss program. With a combination of daily lives, guest expert interviews, and member stories, there is something new almost every day. Miss the Morning Live? Want to relisten to one of our amazing guest experts? Well, this is the place.

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You might be seeing a new face. Well, totally you are seeing a new face. She's an old face if you've been around for a while, but I don't mean old as an old and wrinkly. I just mean that you will, you know what I'm saying. Hi Odette. What an introduction. Welcome. Yeah, that was, I'm not sure how I feel about showing up here today. My old face. Odette has been with a company for a while and she now runs our maintenance program, which she has been doing for the last couple of years, which I'm sure she will share, has learned so much, just like I have myself and Kim has spent quite a bit of time in the maintenance

program as well. Of course, that's the focus all this week. Last week, we talked about next steps for people who are looking to continue to lose. You want to make sure that you are personalized in the plan throughout the summer, that you've signed up for our summer club and that you'll be back with us in the fall. If you have any questions about that, make sure you reach out and let us know. By the time we are done posting and answering questions end of day on Sunday. This week we want to talk about maintenance. So yesterday we had Robin Hahn join. I don't know if you ladies had an opportunity to watch. She's been in maintenance 45 pounds down. She gave us kind of a taste of what maintenance is like for her and the program itself. But where

should we start with this conversation today? I would just like to expand on what you said there about Robin. And if if if members haven't had a chance to listen to her yet, she said something really well, she said the journey is personal and profound. What I found profound about it was that she went into the maintenance program looking to make it very personal and to make it work for her. And I think, you know, she looked at it like a different program, a different journey with different expectations.

She put different expectations on herself. And I thought that was a massive takeaway because we talk about that a lot in maintenance, making maintenance work for you for who you are. And I think her saying that I think was really, it was almost a goosebump moment. Like it was like, yes, that's exactly right. You want it's the 91 day maintenance program. But we talk so much about making maintenance personal for you. So I think that was really an important point. So I think everybody should go and listen to that. Yeah, I think absolutely that is the big, I think she really put in a nutshell. We have people asking this week, like, what do I do differently for the maintenance program? And I think that's actually, that's an important piece

of it is you don't come into the weight loss program. When you do your first round, you don't come in making it your own, you come in and you follow the program. You know, then as you do a couple rounds, you might personalize it a little bit because you're focusing on different things. You know what your body needs. You start to learn more about yourself. Every program, weight loss program you do, you learn a little bit more about your body's needs.

You get a little bit more in tune. You'd be more mindful. You're taking all that you learned. And when you go into maintenance, you're really, it's not like picking and choosing what you want to do, but it's like learning what you need so you can focus your energy on that and not have the stuff that you don't need taking up space and distracting you. Yeah. It is a 91 day structured program, very similar to the weight loss program, but the intention behind it is maintenance.

The conversation is all based on maintenance. In fact, Ruth Cain, who has been studying the Living Method, is joining us tomorrow on my 9 a.m. live. We took a lot of her research and built it into the maintenance program itself. So it's a similar structure in terms of the tweaks each week. And the reason why is you can be done losing your weight physically, but not be done working on that mindset that's going to help you solidify and maintain your weight mentally. And so each time you do another round of the Libby Method, you're not just starting again,

you're building on what you have learned. And when you roll into maintenance, you are also continuing to build on what you have learned. You really because people I think they want to what am I going to be doing in maintenance? It's a 91 day program. You're going to show up every day, there's tweaks for you to follow, there's conversations that we have, but it's for you to figure out what you need to do to be able to maintain and solidify your weight is just putting the time in to help your body adjust to your weight, right?

And we know research is saying it takes two years for your body to create a new set point, but not with the living method because you are actively helping your body create a new set point, but not with the living method because you are actively helping your body create a new set point. But for some people, it's trust. For some people, it's understanding what maintenance now looks like and feels like to them. What are some of the other things, I guess, Odette, that we talk about in maintenance? Yeah. So just to your point there about solidifying solidifying

your set point and solidifying giving your body the time to get used to, you know, working and ultimately at the new size that it's at, it's also very much about solidifying your mindset. And what we mean by that is, you know, when you're on your weight loss journey, you might have self doubt, am I going to be able to lose the weight? Is this going to work for me? And then when you come to maintenance, it's, you know, that those that even though you're coming off this high of hitting your goal, and you did this accomplishment, and it's such a beautiful,

amazing place, then self doubt can come back up again, can I keep the weight off? Is this really who I am? You know, is how do I break that cycle of losing and gaining, losing and gaining? So it's helping you, you know, work through those limiting beliefs. It's helping you believe and trust that you are this person now. It's about, you know, changing that narrative of your inner voice saying, you know, you're gonna fail, this is too hard, you know, why are you even trying to this is who I am now, this is what I believe this is what I do, I can do this. And it's also about a reprogramming, it's a reprogramming of what you always believed before, and

helping you work towards having this new strong belief system, which is going to turn into trusting yourself, which is going to turn into confidence, which is gonna turn into trusting yourself, which is gonna turn into confidence, which is gonna help you make those choices so that when there is a blip in the road, when you have that moment of self doubt, you'll be able to recognize it and move beyond it. So you're not gonna allow yourself to go back to that old,

you know, that old narrative, that old dialogue that rules you for so long. Yeah, well, the problem isn't losing weight. I'm sure many people watching your listening have lost weight before, and then you gain it all back. And yes, step one of the living method is lose your weight. And then I wish you were done there. But step two, which is which is solidifying your weight

and learning to maintain your weight. That's the next step. That's the transition piece that's always been missing before you go to live my life. The third stage is wake up, look good, feel good, using all the tools, everything that I've learned and worked through to trust I know when to eat, what to eat, and how much to eat.

I know the minute that if I take another bite, I'm going to feel full. If I do indulge in something, I don't beat myself up and punish myself afterwards. If I go away on vacation and trash myself because I had the best time eating and drinking and I come back and my weight is up, I just get back on track. I have the tools and the skills that I need to live a life beyond losing weight and even beyond maintaining your weight. You are just living your life. There are three reasons why people gain weight back. One, they don't put time into solidifying your weight. You please do the maintenance program.

This is not a money grab. This is me desperately wanting you to understand there is so much you still need to learn and do to be able to maintain and sustain your weight. And I know that sucks that you're not done yet. So not putting time into maintenance. Two is situational change. So you can go for a whole year maintaining your weight

easily, then your relationship changes, your job changes, something traumatic happens in your life, you fall back into old habits, and you don't help your body to adjust. And then you just spiral and that keeps on going. This is where you don't gain weight back and not notice. You will have the tools to step in and know what your body needs.

The third is being mindful, right? You have to continue to be mindful, to continue to understand how the choices you are making are affecting how you are feeling. You have to continue to understand what you need to do to not fall back into old habits. Or if you do know how to get back at making choices that make you feel good. And so that is what you're learning in maintenance.

Yes, what you are learning while losing will help you get to maintenance, but while you are learning in maintenance are going to help you get to that live your life stage. When I think back to what the bod squad was saying yesterday during that conversation about living the life that you want and living for the life that you want, living for your new life with your healthy habits. And that's something that we have people ask when they come into the program at the beginning, like, do I have to eat like this forever? Can I go back to eating the way that I did before? Or can I

go back to eating all when can I go back to enjoy eating all of my favorites, things like that. And it's not about a timeline like you do 91 days and then you go back any diet you do, you, you know, change the way that you eat for 91 days and then you go back to old habits, you're, you're going to put way back on because you're going back to old habits. So the eating the food plan, what we are eating and when is such a small part of what's contributing to not just losing weight, but you living your best life and living the life you want. And that's kind of what I want people to take out of this program going into the summer, live your summer like you're living the life that you want. Think about that when you make your decisions.

Like, how am I gonna feel when I do this? Is this gonna make me feel good about myself? Don't go back to the summer and go back to that sort of depreciating self-talk where you're just like, oh, if I eat that, I'm gonna put on weight. Oh, I'm going off the rails. Go into it like, hmm, I'm gonna enjoy that.

I've been doing amazing. I've been on my water today. I've nailed my meals and snacks. I'm living my best life right now. And that one ice cream cone is not going to change that. Go back to enjoying and living the life the way you want to live. And then when those things come in, it's because you want it.

It's not because you worry about if it's going to make you feel good or not or if it's going to make you get to your goals or not. Because if you're living in a way where you're sort of have that end game in sight or what you want, what you really want in your soul, what you feel you want, if you're living a way that's getting you closer to that, those little things that you enjoy along the way are not going to have an impact on it. I remember, Odette, there was a woman in the maintenance group many years ago who said, I ate a hoagie, which is like this meat sandwich thing.

And she's like, I feel awful. When am I going to be able to go back to normal eating again? And it was interesting because I said, before you lost your weight, after you've lost your weight, a hoagie has always made you feel awful. It's just probably you felt like shit so often that you didn't really notice. And now that you get a taste of feeling really good, you're going to maybe go eat things that you thought were going to make you feel amazing or that you loved. And now you're going to really realize, oh, I don't actually

feel so good. So it wasn't doing the program that made you feel worse now that you eat those foods. They always made you feel like that. And so this is that understanding, right? Like trying to, I don't want to say go back to eating normal things because that isn't it. It's about understanding how when you eat certain things, they isn't it. It's about, you know, understanding how when you

eat certain things, they make you feel and then not spiraling like Kim mentioned, right? Just keep moving forward. It's kind of like the gap in between groups is in personalizing your plan is kind of to see how it's going to be like in maintenance. Now, I do want to talk about the difference between like, there's a comment here that kind of falls into this, because when people do the maintenance program, they're redoing the program essentially over again. And people are like, well, what's the difference between, you know, losing and maintaining? Well, when you're trying to lose, you

have to try really hard to lose, right? Like that's the intention behind it. What question is here that I want to read? I think it was maybe Roma's. It's probably other. Yeah. It would be great if you ladies could discuss how to maintain weight without adding in bites of bits. I was asked that question a while ago. So if you don't want to lose any more weight, how do you stop? You stop trying. You stop trying to lose weight. Right? When you're trying to lose weight, you're maximizing, you're doing all these things, you're trying to get that scale to move. You're not going to lose any more weight than what is healthy for you.

At the end of the day though, your body's not a machine. So just because you like 150 doesn't mean that that's where your body's going to sit. It might sit at 147 is where you land or maybe also means that you're not going to be able to lose all the weight you want either. Right? And so it's all about intention. You know how hard it is to lose. So to say, how do I stop losing? Well, I mean, your body's not a machine. So you're just gonna have to make choices that make you feel good.

This is one of the things we find, we talk a lot about in maintenance, where people are able to easily maintain their weight, but then they don't feel as good as they felt when they were trying to lose weight. That's because when they were trying to lose weight, they were managing their stress and trying to get better sleep and doing all these things that yes, help them with weight loss, but also help them feel really good. So when it comes to maintenance, you almost need a new why. You need to understand

why you are now showing up every day to do the things that you're doing in maintenance. Yeah, I think that's an important point. In weight loss, I'm just going to use a random number. You're like, oh, I'm drinking five liters of water a day because that's going to help me lose weight. That's going to be part of the process. And then when I come into maintenance, oh, I don't have to drink that amount anymore because I'm not trying to lose weight. And then they're noticing, why do I feel sluggish? Why do I feel you know tired? Why are my lips dry? So it's I think that's important point to say you know we're not in the pursuit of weight loss. We're not doing these things only for weight loss. We're doing these things to help us maintain and feel our best. You want your body to maintain

a level of working well. You want to maintain a level of feeling good. You know, so I think that's why when we and also doing the program again, it is about repetition, you're repeating over and over those those four steps of mindful eating your reinforcing habits physically, you're reinforcing habits on an emotional and mental level. Like, this is what I do now. This is who I am now. This is not just a process I'm going through because I'm trying to get, you know, to this number on the scale. These are routines and habits I just have now because that's who I am. That's what I do to make myself feel good. So it's that reinforcement. It's doing things over and over. It's that repetition. It's that automaticity.

I know we've heard that word a few times this week, and it's actually a major post in the maintenance group. We talk about this. We can't name a week after because it's too long and not everybody can say it, but we want to make sure we bring emphasis to it and making things just automatic, part of who you are. And that comes from repetition.

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and don't forget to use the Libby discount. I was, that's why I was smiling. I was like that fucking automaticity. So Ruth Ruth had this as one of her pillars of maintenance is automaticity. So the three of us were in a room, I don't know, many years ago, working on the maintenance program. And we're like, automaticity, how that does not roll off the tongue. How do we add this to the program without saying that actual world word now it's being thrown in our face. Maybe people

are ready for automaticity. Maybe they're ready for that word. I want to read something of Risa because Risa has been a very vocal member in the program. She says, when I lost a huge amount of weight years ago, I maintained up to 10 to 20 pounds range for about 10 years, but I had no support or understanding how to keep me focused. The mental part of past associations and issues was never worked through. This program has taught me how complicated weight loss is, and I'm excited that I'll have the support to figure out how maintenance and just living my life. Yeah. So, we have to go back and talk about how I didn't want a maintenance program.

I was so resistant because I didn't want people to have to spend more money, more time. I was like, everything you need to know about maintenance, you are learning in weight loss. That still rings true. That is still true. However, once we started the maintenance group, I realized, oh my goodness, this really is the work,

which I should have known because people are able to lose weight, but maintaining it is a different beast. Now, yes, the way you've lost it physically absolutely is going to make a difference and that is different. But what causes us to gain weight really is that you lose your weight and all of a sudden you start adding in foods that are challenging and causing inflammation again. If you're bloated and you feel tired, then you're not sleeping. And then, you know, it's just that vicious cycle. Or you fall back into old habits or you get triggered. And that's the work. That's the work. And now I've come to realize, I think maintenance is probably the most important

program that we offer. And I think especially when people are losing weight through weight loss medications or other diets or whatever, I think the maintenance program will become a place where people are going to learn how to be able to maintain and sustain their weight, even if they didn't do the Libby Method. Yeah, I think we notice with people that go into maintenance,

the impact of how many weight loss programs they've gone and the opportunity to sort of master some of those things along the way, the mindfulness and the build those habits and really build a solid foundation. We've seen it where some people lose their weight quickly and they're in, they're out, they're done. And how much more of a struggle that can be than if you've had the opportunity to repeat the habits

over and over and be consistent for a longer period of time, it gets a little easier. And I think that's where people coming from other diets is going to be huge coming into maintenance, but also those people that are, we have people that do just, they manage to, maybe they don't have a lot to lose, maybe this is just the secret sauce they needed to lose what they've been trying

to lose for years, but they do want to program. And the what's next after doing that is you do feel like you're like, okay, 91 days, and then I feel like I've been, we've had people say, I feel like I'm just being like kicked out into the wild, like the baby bird being kicked out of the nest after. And, and I think with years and years and years of trying, if somebody finally has figured out what works, they don't want to let go of it. And that's where the easing out of it through maintenance is.

You don't have to let go. You don't have to like rip the training wheels off and go out on your own. There's a little place where you can kind of ease into it a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like the summer club. So, you know, you can, you know, you can see what you got, see what you learned, see how you do,

but have a safe place to land in the summer where you can still ask questions and make sure you're clear on what you need to do. What else do you want to talk about, Odette, with maintenance? You know, sort of, you understand all the thoughts and the feels that people have going from losing weight, now reaching their goal and into maintenance. What do you think the conversation

is? What are we missing here that you want to talk about? I think members that are coming into maintenance, I think something that's really important and we talk about fresh eyes in the weight loss program a lot. You know, if you're doing if you're coming back for another round or your third round, you want to look at it like it's your first time. And I think what we noticed with some of our members in maintenance that they came into the maintenance program and they're like, oh, I know the basic food plan.

Oh, I know these tweaks. And they're not looking at it with fresh eyes. They're not looking at the tweak as a different program with different expectations. And we'd like to say in maintenance too, that a tweak is never just a tweak. It's not just about how you're adjusting the food plan. It's about what's coming up for you.

What associations are brewing to the surface? What have you not worked through that maybe now is giving you the opportunity to work through? So I think really coming in there with fresh eyes, looking at this as a new part of your journey, not you know, it's not just an extension of the weight loss program. It's not just an extension of losing your weight. It's something fresh and new and a new part of who you are and

where you are. And I think, you know, I want members to also get really real and I don't want to let this this real talk and this realness hold them back. We talk about, you know, that fear and that self doubt of can I do this on my own? Can I maintain my weight? You know, am I ever going to be there? We want to get really real about that. You know, when that starts to wear off when that motivation of working towards this maintenance school, because it's not a number on the scale. That's not what you're looking for. You know, you really have to do a little bit of work

to find where that new sparkle is gonna come from. Where is that, you know, dopamine hit gonna come from when you're not looking for a number on the scale? So that's the real talk that we like to have too. You know, we have some fun, we bring some stuff to the surface, but we also bring that realness to the surface. And this is a place where you can come and

talk about it and work through it. So you don't let that self doubt hold you back or pull you down or let you spiral. So it's it's an amazing place to be because you've moved on, you're in this new play this new part, and it's exciting, and it's fresh and what's going to happen here. But we don't want to discount that that is not going to be the feeling every single day. So let's have that real talk at the same time. And it's also a lesson of learning. Like we say that every, every new first that you go through your first summer, your first

holiday season, your first birthday, how do you navigate that now as a person who's not looking to lose weight, but as a person who's just trying to live it and enjoy it. It's not about restriction and control. It's about learning to navigate those new times. So there's no rush. There's no pressure and maintenance. It's really a place of learning and looking at those as opportunities, not as times to be afraid of or to fear or to worry about. Well, you know, when they when they say it takes two years for your body to adjust to a new set point, I think, you know, that's just people just randomly living their lives and,

you know, chaos and all of that and people not really managing that very well. So we're actively reinforcing that set point so that sooner rather than later, that becomes your new norm. But to your point, you know, people have some really triggering moments in their lives, some, you know, birthdays and anniversaries and death days. And they will have some things come up in their lives that they're gonna have to deal with that they've never dealt with before.

And that is like spending that year or two years learning how to navigate all of that for the first time with who you are now. When your go-to when you were stressed used to be ice cream at night or when something traumatic happened, you just survive on wine for weeks. It's really learning to navigate everything that life is throwing at you because again, it's that situational change that falling back in those old habits, which are so easy to do. If you lived your life, you know, the majority doing things one way and now you're

just now learning to do them another way. And although they may be feeling like habit, it's so easy to fall back into old habits. And so we have members who will do, like to Kim's point, the longer you spend in weight loss, it seems like the easier of time you have in maintenance. And Ruth knows this. 98% of people who do the maintenance program feel confident that they have the tools and skills to be able to maintain and sustain their weight. And if you've done more rounds,

you spent more time solidifying your weight, yes, but you've also spent more time working through your issues and associations. And so we have people who are in the maintenance group who have been there since the beginning, a couple years now, who still pop in every now and then as they need. And then we have people who do one round of the maintenance program, and then they're like, I'm good. see you later. And then we have people who go into maintenance and feel like they're done. They do a maintenance program. They're like, you know what?

I feel like I can go back for more. So then they go back into our weight loss program and lose more weights. There are people who sign up for a maintenance program and life does smack them in the face. They end up gaining some weight back. So we have conversations about that. The one thing I would say about maintenance,

although you can join it now before you even need it, while you're in the maintenance group, that is a place where we talk about maintenance. So you wouldn't wanna join the maintenance group trying to lose weight. So if you just wanna talk about that, Odette. Yeah, I think that that's an important point because just through experience,

we've seen this, we have members that are in the maintenance group and they're trying to lose weight, but they're in this place where the conversation and the energy doesn't support that quite as much. And then they're confused. Am I trying to lose? Am I trying to maintain? What am I trying to do here? So not that they can't be in there. I think being in the maintenance program before you're actually in maintenance can act as that roadmap, as that park map. You know, you get to Disneyland, you want to open the map and say, okay, there's the bathroom, there's the ride, this is where I go to do these things. But so it's, you know, a comfortable place to be, but you don't want to get caught up in that in that

conversation, you want to make sure you keep your energy in the weight loss group actively trying to lose weight, because it's easy to become complacent, you know, if you've still got weight to lose, but you're immersed in the in the maintenance conversation. So it's gonna be super intentional that if you're in maintenance, that's exactly what you're trying to do is maintain the loss, understand the fluctuations, how they're different now, being comfortable with your range, not going for the lowest low every day. You know, that's how the

conversation really changes. So you want to be really intentional. If you're in maintenance, that's what we're talking about there. If you want to lose weight, then the weight loss group is where you want to be. Great. Odette, thank you so much for joining us. Odette's great, you guys. You're going to love her. And over in the maintenance program, we do get together and we have lives. We have guest experts.

We do have a lot of fun over there. Kim, normally this is the point where we talk about next week's tweak, but we don't have next week's tweak to talk about because literally this is the last tweak this week. My tomorrow is my last live. I will be checking in or doing some check-ins over the weekend, but I'm getting dental surgery done

on Thursday. So what do you want to say to our members who are about to finish up the program, maybe roll into our summer group or fall group? What do you want to say? I think just to the last point that you guys just touched on is the really knowing where you're going. I think creating that map of your summer, you are leaving the spring 2025 weight loss program, whether you are going into, you know, the summer

club, whether you're trying to do it on your own, whether in the fall you're joining us in maintenance or joining us in the fall weight loss program, really wrap your head around where you're going. Have a destination. Because when you think about how productive are you when you go out for a drive or you go out for a walk and you don't know where you're going and you're trying to decide and you end up like, man, you kind of lose interest. You lose motivation. I know I do.

At least if I go for a walk, I'm not sure where I'm going. I end up turning around and coming home a lot quicker than if I really set myself up like, I'm going to walk over this way. I'm going to grab myself a coffee at Starbucks while I'm out there. I'm going to go around, stop at that park. Set yourself up with a plan for what the next step looks like for you. We have the team in the group here in the weight loss group to really help answer your questions and guide you through that plan if you want to let us know what you're doing and what

our thoughts are on it. But if you don't get that done by Sunday, it's fine. The team's jumping over into the summer club. The summer club is there, not just as an amazing place to join our community and hang out with everybody in the summer and check in and keep some of your routine alive, but it's also a place where if you do, you can not even poke into that summer club group and then hit August and be like, Oh man, what just happened in the last month? I've really done myself a number or I feel lost or I'm not sure we're going to be in there.

We're going to be in there and answer your questions and stuff, but make yourself a plan and think about where you want to be and what your end game is and what kinds of things you can do to get there while still enjoying everything the summer has to offer. So you want to finish strong the next few days of this program that we have coming up, you know, don't take your foot off the gas. We still have what is it, four more days after today left in this group, but that doesn't mean that's the end of your journey. So figure out what the next step in your journey, the next little stage is. And this can be like a little pit stop on a vacation where you stop on a scenic, you know,

sightseeing spot on your long drive to Disneyland. And that's kind of what the summer club is, you know, stop taking the view, enjoy where you are, definitely celebrate how far you've come. Take stock of the changes you've made over the last 91 days and all the things that you are proud of. But yeah, definitely make a plan for yourself for moving forward what your next step is.

I love it. I'm also jealous that you guys have your junior firefighter badges on. So we, also if you missed it, we had our big team meetup that we do once a year and we went for our random walks. We went to go over downtown Toronto. We're like, let's get our steps in ladies. Of course, we walked around downtown, we stumbled upon the ferry to the Toronto Island and there was nobody there. So we're like, let's take it across. One of our team members was staying on the island. We went for a walk. Sonia, who works with

us, got blisters. And at the exact moment she was looking for band-aids, an ambulance came by and then a fire truck came by and then chaos ensued. It was so fun. They were so gracious and they gave us all our junior firefighter badges. So I want mine. I wish it was one of those things that you could sow into your like, you know, you know, we could probably contact the Toronto Fire Department and get them to send some stuff because I know, yeah, you know, they usually do stuff like that. So we'll see we can

get you a badge or something. Yeah, we're honorary firefighters, right? So here to put out fires. We're here to put out fires. We're here to put out fires. Your maintenance journey. Right. It was so nice to see you ladies in a hangout. Thanks to everyone who has been hanging out with us for this tweet this week. for the last three months of the program. We appreciate you. We love that you are here to learn and you ask questions

and you are, you know, taking part in the conversation because if you weren't here doing that, we wouldn't be able to do what we love and have all these incredible conversations. Thank you so much for joining us over the past few months. We hope that it helped with these tweaks each week. Thanks to you, Kim, of course, for these tweaks each week. Thanks to you Kim, of course, for joining me every Wednesday. And thanks to you, Odette. I know I see you also on

Mondays. I'm going to see you later. Odette and I are going to be chatting again in the maintenance program for our final. Each week we check in on Mondays and then we also check back in on Wednesdays and see how our members are doing. So I'll see you later around four o'clock. Thanks everyone. Appreciate you joining us and listening. Have a great rest of your day. Bye. Bye ladies.

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