The Livy Method Podcast - The Tweak This Week - Spring 2025 - Week 6

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

Join Gina and Program Manager Kim as they break down and dig into the tweak we see in week 6 of The Livy Method.The Tweak This Week? Downsizing One Last TimeIn this episode, Gina and Kim check in with members at the halfway point of the 91-day program, reflecting on the shift in energy from earlier weeks. They remind listeners to keep their progress in perspective, especially when it feels like others are struggling. They highlight how members are now tuning in more deeply—recognizing hunger cues, making mindful choices, and embracing the difference between being satisfied and slightly unsatisfied. From personal wins with water to real talk around portions and trust, this conversation is all about building momentum while addressing lingering doubts.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodspring2025To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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You feel amazing. I'm a rock star and then just slowly you're not drinking it. And then you gotta kind of build yourself back up to it again. And so here I am anyway. I feel like every time you call me, I'm in the washroom and it's always like, Gina, you make me drink so much water. Where else would I be?

Well, and the reason why usually you're in the washroom so often is because you're good for a day and then the next day you don't drink any and then you're good for a day and the next day you don't drink any, whereas if you're just consistently drinking it, you're gonna find you go to the bathroom less and less and less, although we are gonna have

Erin de Gagne is coming on. Is she not? Is she? Yeah, she's coming on in a couple weeks. Yeah. Yeah. So she's a pelvic health specialist. And we talk about how there gets to a point where if you keep drinking more and more water and you just, you're always running to the bathroom, it could be an indication that you've got something else going on. Pelvic health was like, I was so amazed the first time I had that conversation. What a big, massive conversation it is. So yeah, so stay tuned for that. Aaron's gonna be joining us in the next couple of weeks.

Okay, we are week six of the program. How are people feeling? Where are they at? I know they're stressing about the time that we have left. I know they're probably stressing that their portions are too small or they're just like, ah. Like close? they're probably stressing that their portions are too small or they're just like ah I know

there are a few people that are stressing I always like to take look at the big picture and I hope that members do too when they're reading through the comments that we and that's such a small snippet of the number of people that are in the group I don't even know what the percentage is of how many people comment but I always like to look at the bigger picture. And usually if you are having concerns, you're stressed or whatever, you're more likely to reach out to communicate with our team and ask for help. So when it looks like people are like, ah, everybody's struggling, keeping in perspective, like, oh, there's actually a good number of people that are doing amazing and comfortable, and the ball is rolling for them. And that's what I kind of noticed is the vibe this week, like, oh, there's actually a good number of people that are doing amazing and comfortable and the ball is rolling for them.

And that's what I kind of noticed is the vibe this week is very different from week four when we hit downsizing, when there was a lot of that stress. I feel like this week there's so much less, members are really finding that the second round is a little easier on them and they're noticing the cues and they're actually doing something about it and I actually I have a favorite comment in the group from the poster for the tweet this week but I'm absolutely going to butcher this person's name so

I apologize in advance um is it Sepideh? I don't it's S-E-P-I-D-E-H a beautifully spelled name but I'm sorry I can't pronounce it um her question about-P-I-D-E-H, a beautifully spelled name, but I'm sorry, I can't pronounce it. Her question about downsizing, she says she feels like she got the concept. She's finally getting the concept. The first round of downsizing, she was prescriptive and just left a few bites behind. Wasn't really unsatisfied though.

This time I tuned in and stopped eating as soon as I felt I would be slightly unsatisfied in 10 minutes and it was correct. So definitely when finally gauging satisfied versus slightly unsatisfied 10 to 25 minutes later. So her question now is she's is wondering like M are my portions you know getting too small I feel okay with what it is it seems like too little. I just want to make sure I'm still okay as long as I'm feeling it that way. And absolutely, that's exactly it. You've nailed it. Yeah. I mean, people, you can eat a lot of food. It doesn't mean you're giving your body

the nutrients that it needs, not just to survive, but definitely to thrive. And you're eating all this good nutrient rich foods throughout the day, even in the smallest of portions at breakfast, morning snack, lunch, snack, snack, dinner. Right, it was before maybe you went all day long without eating and then you came home and you had this kind of big massive, you know, portion size and that's what you're used to. Or you were just eating breakfast and lunch and dinner.

The body gets used to you eating more food than what you need. And that's that homeostasis we talked about with Dr. Alinka yesterday. Your body factors in your excess fat and your weight and stabilizes around that. And it gets used to you consuming these larger portions. That doesn't mean that that's what you need and that's the right portion for you. And whenever I've encountered an issue with personal clients who are like,

oh, I'm so concerned I'm not eating enough. I'm always like, where does that come from? And it's always a measurement against what they see other people eating or what they were used to before or what they see out there on social media or because someone said, is that all you're having? And then why don't we trust ourselves?

Why don't we trust that when I've had enough, I've had enough? Or in this case, slightly unsatisfied. This isn't starving yourself. This isn't depriving yourself. This is in fact, it's just as much, you know, going back for seconds and downsizing that portion as it is leaving food on your plate, right? And so why don't we trust? Because we're going by what we see

or how we feel we're being judged, right? And so, yeah, as long as you're feeling good and you have great energy, I mean, I think you would know if you are not eating enough because you are trying to not eat enough. I mean, we are trying to, it's not that we're trying to not eat enough. We're just trying to eat slightly less than what we were eating last week to satisfaction.

So I mean, if you are purposely cutting your portions, I use that word because I hate when people use that word to describe this tweak. If you're purposely trying to eat way less or your mindset is if I eat even less, that's going to get me ahead, then you probably are eating too little. But if you're just following that food plan and eating slightly less than what you were used to last week, then your body's still getting more than enough. Yeah, and I think specifically with breakfast, something to think about is, you know, we've been told for years that it's the most important meal of the day and people they need to start the day With a good breakfast, but a good breakfast doesn't necessarily mean a big breakfast

And you know to you always are saying you wake up you've got energy. You've just woken up You've rested your body has the energy it needs. So if you're feeling like having that breakfast and that and it's it's not like you're actually feeling hungry for and that. And it's, it's not like you're actually feeling hungry for breakfast because you don't have the energy and your body needs the food or you're depleted. You just might need something to get your day started, get your metabolism started, get your digestive system started. And really, as we know, when you are feeling like you're not hungry and you take those token bites and it sometimes stimulates hunger, It's the same thing with breakfast. It can stimulate, your body starts processing

and it's like, I'm actually good now. That's all I needed. So having a good breakfast, having a healthy breakfast focusing on protein doesn't mean you need to have a big breakfast. It just means something to start your day. And I love downsizing this week because if you're new to the program,

some of that shock and like, ah, has kind of worn off from the first time you did downsizing. You learned, oh, I survived. Okay, I can do this again. This is about learning. It's about awareness, how your body is responding to the choices that you're making, the portions that you're having, very clearly understanding the moment you are satisfied, as opposed to feeling unsatisfied, as opposed to feeling hungry or overly full. Again, big picture, we're already assuming

you're gonna reach your goal weight, but it's about maintaining and sustaining that. And beyond that, just living your life, being able to trust when to eat, what to eat, how much to eat, and know the exact moment where if you take one more bite, you're gonna feel like you've eaten too much, right? Or know exactly if you are still unsatisfied and need to go back for more, right?

This is why we're really doubling down on those four sets of mindful eating questions. Make them resonating to you. Understand your body's cues. This tweak is to help you understand your body's cues so that you can trust. It's going to be second nature. You won't ever overeat again without knowing you are overeating. You won't be like, oh, my God, I ate that. Oh, what I eat that.

You know exactly why it was delicious or you made a conscious choice. Right. But if you don't know the moment that you're going to go past that point, no return. Then how are you able to make a conscious choice? And I'm choosing to eat more knowing I'm going to feel like I eat too much. Right? So that's what this is about. Like Risa says, I agree, this time around, I'm digging deeper and really listening to my body's cues. It's going well, but it's funny. My husband is shocked that I'm finished before he's even starting. And it's not us. It's not you.

It's the super size world that we live in. It's the super size world that we live in. So we're kind of comparing what, you know, what we're eating to what other people are eating and whatnot. I mean, we could get into more, like if you're worried about, if you are worried about not eating enough you want to start thinking about the quality of foods that you are eating in the moment and let's revisit that nutrient rich are you just having you know vegetable sticks for your afternoon snack or are you combining it with some protein and fat a boiled egg some some hummus some are you having edamame which has

protein in it along with carbohydrates, which is a better choice than those just plain carrot sticks, right? Like that's one thing that you got to factor in too. It's not just the volume of food. It's the quality of food. It's interesting. I ran into someone on the weekend and she's kind of in fitness and weight loss and she's like, oh, I'm into volume eating. And I was just like, eesh, like eesh. I mean, I love eating food, but I'd rather eat a small portion of nutrient rich food over a large volume of food any day at the end of the day.

That volume of food is gonna give you that euphoric high and that feed into that need to eat and all of that, but give me some good nutrient rich foods over a mountain of food any day, right? So yeah, there's a lot going on this week that it does allow you to dig a little deeper. It does. But I think one other thing that I've noticed just to touch on is that we've had some members that are really recognizing the difference between when they're present and they're asking those and asking those questions of themselves and when they're present and they're asking those questions of themselves

and when they're distracted, when they're standing at the kitchen counter eating as they're making dinner or doing something else, is there at their desk? When they're noticing a difference in how much they eat and how they were feeling after, when they've taken the time to sit down and ask the questions versus when they've been distractedly eating and get to the end of their meal and

realize not just that they're overeating sometimes, but sometimes they're under eating. And I know that's something that I fall into, especially when I'm eating at my desk distracted. I'll have a few bites of my lunch, get distracted, do something else and be like, Oh, I'm actually fine. And then I'm not fine 10 or 15 minutes later because I'm like, oh, I literally only had three bites of my lunch and I wasn't being in tune. I wasn't asking myself my questions. I was telling myself I was fine because I actually needed to move on to the next task versus I was being in tune with how I was feeling in the moment. was being in tune with how I was feeling in the moment.

Ooh, yeah, absolutely. I am. I want to get into what to do if you're not hungry, because that's a whole other thing. But first, I want to address Pam's what the fuck is volume eating. So volume eating is sounds like another fad. It kind of is Lani. So volume eating is just trying to eat as much as possible. So it's it's low Cal foods, foods, lots of vegetables, for example, rather than eating foods that have the most bang for your buck. So trying to spread your calories out

so you can eat more food per serving. So essentially going low-cal, low-fat, low-carb, all of that so you can eat more food in one sitting that ultimately adds up to calories at the end of the day. Right? So a lot of kind of, and those low, a lot of, a lot of low carb, low cal foods are not very high in nutrient value.

Right? So, so people love that act of like being able to eat a lot of food because at the end of the day, they're just equating that to two calories. I want to talk about how, what happens if you're not hungry. And I think this is important because you still, if you're not hungry, you have the token bites. And you might notice though, like Kim said, you might not be hungry, but after you start to eat,

you might realize, oh my goodness, I actually am hungry. And which if you do notice you're hungry after having those small token bites You're gonna downsize that portion of whatever you're eating But if you are not hungry at all you eat a few token bites and you're still not hungry Then just call it a day call it a day, right? You're just eating enough to stimulate your digestive system there Anything else want to say on that back him I Was just reading Sandy's comment about downsizing

while you were sharing that, about that she's maybe finding it easier because her appetite is decreasing naturally. So that might make it a little bit easier on the program, but her scale is also moving. So that sort of twigged me to kind of, maybe we talk about the scale a little bit before we move on this week, just because we did have people recognize as you predicted

during the week that we went back to satisfaction, we actually had a lot of people sharing last week that their scales started moving for the first time in the program, moved after a plateau. And for some reason, Gina just knew that was gonna happen. And so I think this week, the downsizing and the fine tuning of the portions, I don't like it when people equate the scale moving to I'm eating less food. And just really wanna double down on that reminder that you're getting your body's attention with this

and your body's feeling motivated to drop weight. It's not because you're eating less and less food. So, you know, just doubling down on don't overdo it just because you think this is what's making the scale move. You've put a lot of work in, in the last six weeks into all the things that you're doing that have made the scale ready to kind of head in that direction. Yeah, like if you're a new member, this is just the time that you've put into this process. You spend a lot of time addressing why your body was feeling need to store fat, and it's just go time. It's helping the body specifically focus on fat loss

along with through all the other things that you're doing, like trying to get better sleep and manage your stress and move your body and make nutrient rich food choices. And of course, being in tune to those portions makes a difference, but it's more so timing. It goes back to that James Clear excerpt that we shared about the ice cube. And I don't know if you missed it,

it's worth going back and searching it in the app or in the group where there's an ice cube sitting at a table and every second you're turning the temperature up in the room. And you know, you started maybe frozen and you turned up one degree and that ice cube is still there and two degrees ice cube still there

and three degrees ice cube still there. And you know, eventually you're turning up the temperature to like, I don't know, 20 degrees and only then it starts to melt because you get at a certain threshold. So turning it up, turning it up, turning it up, all that was making a difference but it wasn't until you hit a threshold.

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and your body doesn't want this fat any more than you do. And if it's storing fat, it's because it feels like it needs to for whatever reason. So that's that step one is, you know, address why your body's feeling you need to store fat. If you're a returning member, it could be that, you know, you lost a big chunk of weight in the last program and your body just needed time to adjust to that weight.

So only now is it starting to move or, you know, maybe you've just, you know, things have happened in your life where last group, it was easy peasy because everything in life is aligned is aligned and this one maybe you're dealing with more stress or maybe your weight moved a lot in the first couple weeks of the program and now your your body needed time to adjust and now it's just starting to move again right so it's not any one thing it's not anyone tweak it's all of them in combination with you showing up every single day and making as many choices fall in line as possible. That is what's doing that for you.

I know sometimes people want to look for the magic of the tweaks and they are magic in their own way because of the issues that are brought up when you learn about yourself. But it's not downsizing is our weakest tweak, which is why I'm excited to get into talking about our tweak next week. Yes, yeah. And that's the downsizing, if the scale is moving, it's not necessarily the eating less, it's getting more in tune with how much you need that's going to make the difference. And if you feel like it's downsizing and you're like, great, I'm gonna downsize the heck out of this meal, then you run the risk of going too far

in the other direction and your body going like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, then you run the risk of going too far in the other direction and your body going like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, I'm not getting what I'm needing now. And that's why that fine tuning of the questions is really important in finding exactly what you need. We're getting in tune with what you need. Before we move on to next week's tweet, just touching on cravings,

because I did note that some members last week and the week before noticed some cravings creeping back in for things. I'm seeing a decrease in people sharing this. So I hope that that means that people are addressing it, but it goes back to what Gina was saying about making sure that those meals are nutrient rich when you're eating them.

As we start sort of building each week and each step, it's really easy to let some other things fall between the cracks. So if I'm downsizing and I want to feel slightly unsatisfied, I know that healthy fat makes me feel satisfied. So maybe if I leave that part out, I'll be downsizing and feel that way. That's not going to help you with your cravings. So you still want to be making sure that you're getting all of those things, staying on top of your water, of course, because that helps with the carbohydrate and the sweet cravings, but also being mindful of those healthy fats. And that, while eating them, can mean you are satisfied on less because you're eating those healthy fats

and including them, they're still really important to get some of them in, specifically if you're noticing that you're having some cravings or, you know, at night or between meals. Yeah, people fall back into what they like or love or they start letting little bits in, right? Or it could be triggers, right? Especially when we're rolling into a whole new season with summer and if you're craving ice cream,

it could be because you see the lineup, the DQ is open because that's your association, right? So there's, there's different associations with different seasons, your memories attached, your thoughts, your feels, all of it. So it could be that you're being triggered. It could be that the days are longer, right? So you're trying to keep your portions small and not actually being in tune in the moment. Or you you're still going by your set meal times rather than trying to be a little bit more flexible knowing that it's like, it is lighter for like three hours longer now, right?

So that can be playing a role. The reason why we had that leveling up your water post is because people tend to drop the ball on some of the things that they're doing, like taking their supplements, like drinking their water. Everyone at the beginning is like, yeah, let me do all the things. And you're like, oh fuck, it's taking forever.

And do I really have to do this? And I don't have time for that. And you just fall back into those old habits rather than prioritizing the things that you need to do. So it's really checking your why halfway through, six weeks in is a great idea. Remind yourself why you are here, why you are making sure to drink your water

and make your food choices nutrient rich and take your supplements and move your body and do all those things, right? I went to your point with the seasonal change. The weather's warming up. That's the perfect time to reassess your water intake because you're going to need more. If you don't get more, it might come in the cravings of a margarita like it does for me at times.

If we're looking at being mindful, have that glass of water first and see if it helps. Yeah, cravings at the end of the day are just your body trying to communicate its needs. And chances are, it doesn't need a margarita. You might want one, but your body doesn't actually need it at the end. So what is my body trying to tell me through these cravings?

I know before we get into next week, we wanna talk about how just reminding people that a sign that your weight is about to drop is being extra hungry in the evening. Even with downsizing, of course, we associate it with that, but you might have before we even started downsizing experience that when the scale moves for you, you are extra kind of nausea, extra hungry in the evening. Weight being up, assign your weight is about to drop, waking up for that three or four o'clock time to go to the bathroom.

Could be pelvic health issues, but also chances are if your weight is dropping, it's a sign that your body is specifically focused on fat loss. And as we switch week to week in the tweaks, sometimes people lose sight of that. So knowing that at the end of the week, we're gonna be introducing a whole new tweak.

You wanna keep that in mind. Let's talk about next week's tweak. Yes, please. Man, this is like, this is the tweak. This tweak causes people to rage sometimes because they're like, oh, you're setting me up to fail and I can't believe you're asking me to eat more. And I'm like, yeah, I'm asking you to eat more on a diet. Isn't that freaking amazing? The thing before we get into next week's tweak, and I don't wanna yeah, I'm asking you to eat more on a diet. Isn't that freaking amazing?

The thing before we get into next week's tweak, and I don't want to talk too much about it, what I would say to people is that this is also about awareness and getting even more in tune to your body's needs, especially when it comes to portions without the pressure of your old diet dialogue. So what we're going do is we're gonna bring you back to eating dissatisfaction just enough for the moment so you walk away feeling satisfied for the first couple of days. And then on Thursday,

you're gonna take the exact same portions, just kind of how you've been eating in those first few days, you're gonna split them in two, if and when you can. Right, some people will be able to split all their meals and snacks, some people only a couple of meals and snacks. And even if you can't split any of your meals and snacks,

you are already doing so much just by following the basic food plan. So keep that in mind, right? Just like how people lost weight last week, even though we weren't downsizing. Next week will be no different. You're gonna split the portions in two. You're gonna eat the first portion,

asking the four sets of mindful eating questions. Assess how you feel when you're done. Then you're going to wait 20 minutes, half an hour before you eat that second portion. Most people are going to find that after they wait 20 to 30 minutes and knowing that they can have that second portion if they want are not really all that hungry for it. Now you're going to eat a few token bites of that second portion, whether you want to or not. Now, you also might find that you split that portion in two. And after the first portion, you're really hungry. And after you wait a half hour later, you're still hungry

in which you can go back for more and eat just enough of that portion. And then it complicated even further or to have more fun with it. We are also rather than just splitting that portion in two, you're going to separate your proteins and have those first from your carbohydrates and your fats can go either way. And this is going to teach you that protein and fat hits differently, which is a setup and lead up for another tweak that we have coming down the pipeline. So that's kind of the gist of it. We're going to introduce it in the guidelines on Sunday and then you're going to bring it back to satisfaction

for a couple days so nothing will change there. And then on Wednesday, we're going to talk specifically about the splitting up the meals and snacks part. You're going to have a lot of questions. We would never ask you to do anything that's going to set you back, set you up for failure. This is just another opportunity to learn more about yourself, get even more in tune without that pressure of having to leave a few bites on your plate, without that pressure of eating less. It's very interesting, super fascinating.

It also seems to be the thing that gets things going for people who come in with metabolism issues. Years and years and years of, you know, starvation diets, your metabolism is really low. You think that downsizing more or eating less is going to do more for you, but it's actually eating more often. There are very few ways to kind of stimulate your metabolism. One is obviously working out, lifting weights, increasing muscle mass. The other is growing, being pregnant, growing a human inside of you. The other, and not to a huge extent, but making your body work hard for its foods and eating a bit more often can also,

along with everything else that you're doing here feed into that. So this tends to be the week that, this is why we don't usually have people go longer than seven weeks without their weight moving. Cause this tends to be the tweak that if your body hasn't connected up to this point, that's when things start moving for you.

Yeah. Yeah, I think the key thing to keep in mind when you're thinking about next week, whether you're looking ahead or when this hits on Sunday is we are not asking you to eat more next week. We are just asking you to eat more often. That's it. So you're not eating more food.

You're not doubling up on the portions. You're not looking at that first portion and deciding if that's going to make you feel satisfied. And then adding a second portion later, you're looking at the same amount of food you've been eating to satisfaction, say, last week or what you know would have satisfied you this week. And that's what you're splitting

and eating at two different times. So it's very different than asking someone to eat more. It's just eating more often. Yeah, and if you're listening, you're like, what the actual, I don't know about this, just give it a go. It tends to be the week that people are most like, and then ends up being their favorite week.

It's someone said to me well it's hard because I'm eating separate from my family and I'm this and I'm that. Remember it's gonna it's only gonna be for what Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, four days. It's for four days. That's it. Split up the meals and snacks wherever you can. Do it from a place of curiosity and be like okay let me just see how my body reacts physically, how my brain reacts mentally. If anyone was just to take this one tweak and be like, this is what the living method is about, people would probably be like, she's cuckoo pants, but it's how it fits. And that's what these tweaks are about is to bring up that sense of awareness to get to understand

yourself a little bit more. And it's a way of approaching weight loss. We listened to Dr. Sean Wharton today. It's a way of approaching weight loss from a variety of different ways. And that's what we're trying to do. 26,000 people, I think, in this current group. And if you're human and have a body, the program's gonna work for you,

but how do you make it special and unique to you, right? So this is about you. This is what he said. you can't just give someone a set number of calories to follow. Everyone's gonna respond differently. So when it comes to portions, when it comes to your needs, this is you figuring out what works best for you, right? So have fun with it.

Have fun with that. Yeah, and we'll be sitting down next week to discuss it before it even starts. So you can put the questions you have, any of your worries that you have, any of your thoughts about it. And full disclosure, I hated this tweet the first time I did the program and it's now my favorite.

So I am that person that Gina's talking about. And I feel like I'm not gonna judge you if I see a comment in the group and you're like, what the heck are you expecting me to do here? So just ask your questions. We're gonna connect next week on the tweet this week when we get together and go over it and having some of your questions for us to go over

is really helpful. So don't be shy about asking them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Like this is like, this is weird. It's weird, it's not normal. The things that we do in the Living Method are not normal. They're meant to shake things up physically, mentally about having you see things from a different perspective,

learn from a different angle. And that's what it's about. It's the skills and the tools that you are acquiring through the things that you are doing and learning that not only help you lose weight, but help you with that maintenance piece. And more importantly, just the change, it's just you become the change.

And all of a sudden you're just so into tune that you trust when to eat, oh, I'm hungry now. What to eat, oh, I wanna salad, I wanna steak, I wanted this, I wanted that. And then how much to eat. And you're like, you know, you just know, right? And you're not accidentally overeating if something is really good

and you wanna eat it more of it, because it's delicious. You're like, this shit's good, I'm gonna eat more of it, it's delicious, that's it. And then fully aware, okay, maybe I feel bloated and next day my scales up, whatever, it was so worth it, I would do it again. And then not punish yourself afterwards, right?

That's what this is about, all big picture learning about yourself. That's our time for today. Highly suggest you go back and listen to our conversation with Dr. Alinka Trejo this week on hormones, it's a good one. Dr. Sean Wharton today. I love him. I just, so great. Such a great conversation. And then Dr. Alinka Trejo is going to be back tomorrow. So we're going to continue that conversation at this point in the game. We have given you the tools and the skills and

the information with our guests to kind of start to figure out what's going on with you and what you need. But my goodness, we still have more to come. We do not lay off halfway through the program and put the pedal to the metal. It's go time. So much more time to get the job done around here. Thanks everyone who joined us. Thanks Kim.

Thank you. Okay, see you next week. Have a good one. I'm going to go get some water.