The Livy Method Podcast - The Tweak This Week - Winter 2026 - Week 11

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

Join Gina and Program Manager Kim as they break down and dig into the tweak we see in week 11 of The Livy Method.The Tweak This Week? Personalizing The Food PlanIn this episode, Gina and Kim break down the purpose behind this stage of The Program, explaining how it’s designed to help people get in tune with their hunger cues, build trust with their bodies, and understand the difference between habit and actual need. It’s a conversation that blends tough love with perspective, calling out the tendency to quit over small frustrations while reinforcing the bigger picture, that lasting change comes from sticking with it, learning as you go, and giving your body the time it needs to adjust and solidify a new set point.You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/livymethodwinter2026To learn more about The Livy Method, visit livymethod.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Sorry. That music gets me every time. We've got to change that. Maybe it's because it's a fucking Wednesday. I don't know. We don't know. It's so funny for years. My daughter has hated Wednesdays.

Like the way everybody else feels about Monday, she feels about Wednesdays. And she might be on to something with that, right? It's like halfway through the week, not quite there yet. Where am I? What's going on? What day is it? I don't know if it's Tuesday or Tuesday.

Thursday. If you're joining us live, you may be wondering, where are we? What's going on? We had some technical issues, of course. So thanks Wednesday. Thanks, Wednesday. Thanks. At least it was your tech this time and not mine. You can't. You know, technology in Facebook specifically have taught me a lot of patience, right? You get what you get. You don't get upset. Like, just kind of go with the flow. Yeah. Anyways, it's good for this program. when you think about it this way, I always, I always kind of equate it to what everybody's going through with life. Like you don't get to choose what your day looks like. Ever, you can plan as much as you want, but you don't get to pick all of those little diversions that happen throughout the day.

We don't get to pick those here. So sometimes I know, like, we've had people give us feedback on certain things. And sometimes it's like, well, there's nothing we can do about it. Like, I would love to fix that too. But there's nothing we can do about it. And everything's not always going to be perfect. And we've really, I think, learned really well to pivot and roll with the punches around here. And I think that's like just a good way to go through life and go through the program.

You know, one of our members mentioned she was upset. She's still having issues with the graph, which I get. Like that sucks, right? But she's like, yeah, I just don't want to cancel because my graph doesn't work. And I'm like, like, really of the value that you get for the price that you pay all access to guess X. support AI in the app, you're just going to cancel and quit because your graph is like, and it's not that we don't want to fix it. It's just that at this point, it comes down to individual phone issues, like what your phone is. And, you know, like, there's a lot to it. And I was like, oh, you know,

and I was like, I don't even, okay. Yeah. Like, yeah, like, if they don't want to put through enough to keep doing this with the graph not working, why have the app? And I don't have the app. team continue to work as hard as they are to fix these issues if the person's just going to quit anyway, like at this point. You're never going to make it. You're never going to reach the goals. I hate to say that if you're letting like a crap. And I get it. Right. And I get like you get what you pay for. The program though should probably be thousands of dollars for the value that people get. I mean, sometimes I think that people devalue their own health and wellness. Like this is where or people are not signing up again because I'm going to, I should be able to do it all.

on my own. Okay. Okay. I should be able to play golf better than I can, but I take lessons because I want to learn how to get better, you know. So anyway, yeah, I mean, this is life, life is going to throw some shit at you. It's about showing up. This is what I've been thinking a lot about this program and especially this week this week, because let's bring it back to that. It's, it's kind of like you don't learn to swim when you're drowning, right? And if you don't ever get in the water, you'll never really and how to swim. And that's what this tweak is about. So this tweak is really effective. Like this is how I would work with personal clients. Like that would take them through the basic food plan, start them out on that. I would kind of like, you know, work them through some

downsizing, feeding the metabolism. Like I might go longer certain weeks than others. Like if I'm working up with a personal client to get them to this place where I would still be guiding them here. Right. And what I'm doing is sharing everything that I've learned to try to teach you how to get to this place where you can trust when to eat. I'm actually hungry versus habit, triggered, coping, right? What to eat. I need protein. I need leafy greens. I need a piece of fruit. I need whatever. And then how much to eat, like knowing exactly when you've had enough or when you purposely are going to overeat. That's a hard thing to get to. So there's that we're trying to do mentally. And then physically, we're helping your body do what everyone else is saying is

impossible because it and it's not it just takes a lot of work lower your set point so your body has adjusted your weight around storing a certain amount of fat because of all the times you starved it deprived it like you know so your body's learned oh i need this much fat in order to survive so we are helping your body release fat and then adjust to your new weight release fat adjust to your new weight release fat and then ultimately when you reach your your goal weight that's where you go into maintenance to work to help your body solidify or make your new weight your new norm, which means your hormones have to adjust around this new weight, your metabolism, your blood flow, your body temperature, people talking about how they lost weight, they're cold. So that's what we're doing.

So mentally, we got to make those changes and then solidify those changes. And physically we got to make those changes, help the body solidify those changes. And this is where you can't go back to the old way of living, you made change. Now you have to support all of your new habits. And so personalizing the plan is an opportunity to see what you got, to go deeper, to level up even more. There was a question I know that came in today that you wanted to talk about, which was, where's this one that you sent me? Let me see. Let me find it. You know, this is my first program and I'm loving it. I plan to go on to the membership program. My question is, does it make sense to continue with personalizing the plan or to start over the next 91 days?

wouldn't that be going backwards? Won't my body be confused? Okay. So I love this question, but first of all, do you think I want to fuck you up? Like, do you think I want to fuck you over? Like, really? Because why would I suggest you do anything that's going to stop you from reaching your goal? So I just want to be very clear about that. I love this question, by the way, but I just want to like, because sometimes I think people think the diet industry is trying to screw them over and it has tried to screw you over. So that's not me. I want you to be successful. There is also a lot of science behind, and this is where you've got to believe the science each week, or do your own research. The Why It Works Post, the science behind the program. Like, it's trying to cut through everything you've learned in the noise from the diet industry and what's real is real.

And sometimes it's hard for people to believe that, right? But you want to personalize the plan, see what you got. Kind of get in tune to, like, your own hunger cues and what's going on there. The body loves routine, though. And this is why every time you do a round of the program, your body loves that. Two weeks of downsizing is nothing compared to 40 years of the way you lived your life, right? Two weeks of feeding the metabolism is nothing compared to how you lived your life. Like, it's everything that you're learning and you're unraveling and stuff that's coming up mentally

and also addressing the body physically. So we want to make change, but not enough that it's stressed your body's out. So this is why the actual like system, the method of the 91 day live session really, really effective. Also, so is the basic food plan. Like if you just followed the basic food plan, you'd reach your goals eventually. It's just a lot slower. The tweaks each week are designed to bring up the stuff to challenge your body physically and mentally. And let's just face it, the hardest thing about losing your weight loss goals is doing it long enough.

It's actually showing up when life makes it very difficult, which is why the support and the community and all of that. is really, really important. So yeah, so don't be afraid of personalized, like, get fucking excited about it. See what you got. Check in at every meal and snack. Like, how in tune am I, right? So ideally in between programs, you're going to continue to personalize the plan, like with a vengeance and intention, like you're trying to keep that scale moving. Or you might just want to be like, I need a break. Like, I need, I just need, I would like a couple weeks just to kind of like chill on the, you know, showing up every day and maximizing and maybe you just want to follow the basic food plan. Like that's okay too.

So we're going to outline a couple options for you. But enough about me. What do you want to say about this week and this tweak and how our members are feeling and where they are at? I feel like, well, you just covered so much. Where do I start? I don't think it's looking ahead and carrying on to, I think of the program in this community sort of as an anchor to what you're doing when you're losing weight.

And whether you're looking at it from the basic food plan perspective or the program in general, you want to kind of come back to your anchor to what's kind of holding you down. So when you go out, you have that lifeline. So you can sort of spread your wings a little bit. And that's kind of the point of personalizing the plan. You know, you follow the program, you do the basic food plan, your body gets comfortable. That's your anchor. That's your safe space.

That's, you know, back on track we talked about last week. that's the space where you can always come back to it's like coming back to home when you move out of the house and you go spread your wings you know you can always come back home and we're that home so whether it's personalizing the plan and you're going out and you're spreading your wings and you're trying to personalize the plan to see what you've learned to see what you've got to sort of push your boundaries a little bit with this week and next week you have us to come back to we are here and the basic food plan is there if you need it if you realize that you are not really focusing with personalized the plan if you're giving yourself too much leeway if you're

like oh i'm letting that fruit snack turn into donut snack in the morning and things like that you can come back to us this is not a free for all go out there personalize a plan eat whatever you want buy your gone this is a hey let's see what you got practice think of of it like as an apprenticeship almost or like a practicum when you're going to school. You're just testing it out. You're seeing what you've got. You're seeing it what you've learned. But you're also seeing what you still need to learn. The stuff that comes up when you're personalizing the plan gives you an insight of what you might need to dig into in your next round of the program. And the next round of the program, regardless of whether you've learned everything, whether you feel

like you know the program so well, it's what we were saying this morning right off the top is life happens, you can't control everything. And if you are not in something that's structured where you have a home to come back to, you need to think about the skills that you've built up along the way to cope with those things as they come up. And we're seeing that come up in maintenance where people are, you know, they come across a life changing event and all of a sudden they can't maintain their weight because their situational change is put them in a different place. So this is where I feel like, you know, think about that before you think about, I got this. I can do this on my own. Yes, this is where you don't learn to swim when you are drowning.

So like this is a self-imposed. Like let's see what comes up, right? That's like, so if you perceive, oh my goodness, I don't trust that I'm not going to eat Cheetos or, you know, chocolate or whatever during this week. Okay. What are, what guidelines are you reading? You know, this isn't about this is the time now to start eating this. That's not it. So that's your perception or you don't feel safe. It's probably. probably because you don't trust yourself. So that's why I love this tweet because it's the thoughts and the fields. It's all of the guardrails. It's absolutely a guideline just like the rest. But we perceive it as, oh my gosh, I don't know if I can do this. I'm going to fuck it up. I'm going to like whatever. You can't because you're, you know, do I need to eat? Yes, I need to eat. What are you eating?

The same things you've been eating the whole time. Right. Could eat, not sure. Have a small token amount of the same things you've been eating the whole time. should eat, this stops you from going too long without eating because you actually need to eat if you're running the risk of going too long. So you're still, you're doing all of the work you're checking in. That's why I love the thoughts and fails. No matter what they are, that is like, that's unraveling the, okay, like, what do I still have to deal with? This, I'm still back on this comment here. My question is, doesn't make sense to continue with personalize the plan or to start over the next 91 day. So we're going to do that. When you talk about coming home, That's where you do personalize in the plan.

It might feel a little chaotic and a little off routine. And then bam, we hit the body back up with that routine again at the beginning of the next live session. And that's where you have the opportunity. Oh, that's even more routine to me now. Okay, let me dig into those portions even more. Let me work on moving my body more. What can I do more to manage my stress to keep things moving forward? And then it is, wouldn't that be going backwards?

Won't my body be confused? No, because you're bringing it. back home. If you, if you're able to reflect back on every single, not just every, every week of the program, but for our returning members, every round of the program, you should be able to see and feel yourself moving forward towards that goal, which is not just what's happening on the scale, but your ability to maintain and sustain your weights. I realize I'm really fucking intense today, but I like it. One, I'm feeling so much better, but too, I just, Oh, the fact, so the reason why I'm so excited is because if you were here now and you are listening, it could be that you just come back from taking a break and we're just so happy that you're back. So reach out and we're here to help you. Or like, you're here at this point. You get it. Like you really get it. So that's that thinking on the next level, bigger picture, right? I think with this tweak, we tend to like narrow in and oh my God, can I do this and what about this and what about that. Then realizing the big picture here is this is you learning. This is you learning of like what life is going to be like when you just.

need to trust. So where are you on that scale? And you might be like, okay, I'm not here yet. I'm not here yet. I'm not ready. I'm not ready, which is cool, right? Which is cool. So then go through the steps and, you know, sign up for our next program. But we want people to be ready. Like Nancy, Nancy says, love the program. I think I will make my goal beginning of program three. Happy to roll through program three and full. Okay, but I'm worried that I will be on maintenance during the summer months with no maintenance program to learn the next steps. So I don't future trip because what you are going to learn by the time you are ready for maintenance is going to set you up for success, right? So first that.

Remember, we used to not have a maintenance program and people just did another round of the weight loss program to solidify their weight. If you are on our subscription service, you're going to have access to all of the information in the app. So all of the weight loss information, the maintenance information, you'll have use of Libby AI. You'll have use of all of that. plus we're going to do our summer club, which will be included in the membership as well, right? So our summer club is our summer program where it's fully staff with our team, where they're going to be there to answer any of the questions that you have. So you'll have all that support. That's part of the membership that we offered, right?

Like you can buy three single programs, which is fine. But at $20 a month with our membership, it includes all of the live sessions, the summer club, use of the app in between it, actually a lower cost than. the three programs, even if you're picking them up at, you know, the $75, you know, friends and family deal that we're doing. So, so yeah, so we got you. We got you. Because big thinking, this isn't about just three live sessions a year. Sure, the live sessions are super motivating and it gives you an opportunity to restart, but it's, it's what, I guess what we're talking about with this tweak is it's what's happening in between as well. We're assuming you're going to still want to work towards your goals, you know. What other questions that people have

about personalizing the plan this week? I think just like a little bit more technical questions about personalizing the planner coming up this week as far as that checking in. Like are we having one snack or two snack in the afternoon? What is the star of lunch? What is the star of dinner? What can we be having for a snack? Should we still be having veg snack, not snack, or should we mix it up? So I think, you know, just a little bit more technical questions like that.

The checking in portion of it is I think what people need to know. You don't necessarily need to eat every single. one of those meals and snacks when you check in, but you absolutely need to be checking in with yourself, as you said, because you don't want to be going too long without eating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So check in at every single meal and snack, right? So that's breakfast now, morning snack, time, lunch, first afternoon snack, second afternoon snack, and then dinner. No longer a starve the meal, but you're not switching up what you're using to make your meals, right so protein vegetables leafy greens healthy fats lunch is still the time to add in those heavier carbs

you're checking in at every meal and snack time and assessing if you're hungry and need to eat okay so then what I'm going to eat at breakfast you're going to focus on protein right if it's a snack then you can choose from the same snacks you've been having all along because there's still a rhyme and a reason for those vegetables after lunch or those net and seeds if you want to switch it up you can use any of the snacks that choose from that we introduced in week nine of the program um still no eating after dinner, still drinking your water. So essentially the only thing that really changes is you don't have to force yourself to eat if you're not hungry. And then there's no longer a star of the meal. Now, it's really interesting. I love how our community gets so savvy. People are talking about,

okay, so what if I wake up, I choose not to have breakfast, and then I check in at morning snack, and I'm not hungry for a morning snack. And yet I'm still within that four and a half, five hour window. Can I then just start with lunch? I mean, you can. unless you're figuring out what happens is by the end of the day, your hunger is catching up to you. And you're finding that within that window, you're not actually eating enough. So you're extra hungry in the evening. So you want to pay attention to that, right? Because your hunger levels are going to shift, just like when we make any other changes in any of the previous tweaks.

You'll notice your hunger kind of shifts a bit and changes. So if you're consistently not having breakfast, not having morning snacks, starting your day at lunch, obviously you're a person who gets up later in the day because you're not getting up at 5 o'clock in the morning and doing that. That's fine as long as you don't find yourself super hungry in the evening where you're ending up having this big, large dinner or you're tempted to eat after dinner, right? Because there's a benefit to having that high protein breakfast in the morning, gets your body, like it wakes it up, gets your body working harder from the get-go and gets your metabolism

kind of going. So if you're not eating until later on, like, you know, lunchtime, that might be. might cause you to be really hungry later in the day in which then you might say, okay, maybe I should have that breakfast. Well, and that's the thing too. And a lot of people we know have gotten used to going longer periods of time without eating because they are ignoring their hunger signals. If you're doing that, make sure you're not doing just a superficial check on your hunger as well. Or it's like, oh, I don't feel hungry. Cup of coffee off with my day, back to my desk, off to run my errands. Yeah. Because this is where a lot of

of us came into this with our habit of not eating up until the afternoon and then try to have a healthy lunch by mid-afternoon, we are eating every cookie in sight because we're starving, looking for that sugar, whatever, because we didn't fuel ourselves properly in the morning. So this is where that slippery slope of falling back into old habit really need to double down when you're checking in. It's not just a, oh, I didn't think about eating breakfast or fruit snack. I must not have been hungry. It's like you need to actually check in with yourself.

And that's where that should I eat. Am I somebody who would fall into that habit of not eating and just drinking coffee all morning? Also, this is not the opportunity to fall back in that old diet mentality where less is more. 100%. That is not it. It's to understand that your body, your hunger levels change every day. This is something that nobody talks about because we're based on the calories in versus calories.

I need the same calories every day. your hunger levels actually change every day. Some days you're really hungry. You might need all meals and snacks. And some days you're not hungry at all because your body is focused on something else. And it's a matter of honoring that. Yeah, get out of your head. Your head is not going to tell you if you are hungry. You need to actually take a minute in your body and be like, am I hungry now? And visualize eating something. Right. Like, am I hungry now? I'm not really all that hungry. But could I eat some eggs and some, sourdough bread because that's my new thing um i could but i'm not quite there yet right could i have some fruit yeah i could maybe have a little bit of fruit and yogurt because the fruit and yogurt is way more appealing to me right now then so that's where you kind of want to be like do i need a this that kind of go through and see if i'm actually hungry but it's not until i actually get out of my head sure i might be thinking about what kind of foods but i'm feeling it in my body am i hungry i need to eat i love this paulette i wish that every round i've done i would have a blank memory slate so that i don't

try to jump ahead or feel like, ooh, I got this. I'm going to build the whole house I have through the whole program, like the very first program. Still here after, I don't know, 12 rounds, I need all the professionals. It takes, we're talking about losing your weight in a way that you can actually move forward from. And the diet industry has done a number on many of us who's, you know, you start Weight Watchers at 12 years old. That's a lot of unpacking, right? That's a lot of habits or living in your life one way where you need to live your life another way. Think about what you would have done before, spent your whole life on crappy, shitty diets, constantly losing, gaining, losing gaining, losing gaining, losing gaining, losing gaining, right? And so maybe you've had

moments where you've lost and for whatever reason gain back because you fall back into old habits, but now you're like, oh yeah, I know why. I know what to do about that next time, right? You're learning to swim. That's what you're learning to do to live your life. So people look at like, oh, well, you've done so many rounds of the program. Yeah, bitch, you're still on that same fucking shitty diet you've been doing for 40 years. How's that working for you? Right. And that's what's great about the living method is all of these things that you are learning are skills you are learning for life to move forward. You're not just starving and depriving yourself, calling it a day and being like, yay, I reached my goal. And then next week your weights back up again, right? That's where you want to get

excited and dig into making real change in your life. Like, you want to make change that actually sticks. Right. So the more challenged you are, like I love that. And And so every time you do a round of the program, it's the same because your body loves routine, but you change. You change, right? What I love sometimes is that, you know, people are really working against themselves. They've lost this weight. They're feeling confident.

So what is motivating you to go to the next step, right? That's where people get caught in this. Like, well, I look good. I feel better. So I'm not as desperate, for lack of a better word, to reach my goal because I'm feeling really good about myself. Okay, so then what is it about for you this time or next time? What's what, yeah, you want to reach your goal, but what's going to motivate you to get there?

So this just is like deeper and deeper and deeper. And make no mistake, everything you do on this program is going to help you in life. It's the same thing with every other goal that you're reaching in your life. What is with me today? God, I don't know what my deal is. Okay. So what if Barbara said, spicy morning. Yes, it is, Barbara.

Yes, it is. I just didn't really. I just been really thinking about making women making real change. I know we have men doing the program too, but God, we spend so much time and energy and money on this. I just, I get really excited because I know that if you're here now, you're doing the work and you're like so close. You just got to keep going.

You just got to keep going. And I love learning about myself. Some days I feel like, oh, my God, I'm never going to get anywhere in life. What am I even doing? And then the next day, I'm like, okay, let's go. And I think that's so normal. Yeah, and I mean, that's so normal with the program too. You'll probably find, you know, most people going through the program will find that some days you're absolutely crushing it. And other

days, you're just like, fuck, I don't want to do this anymore. I hate this or I'm over this or I can't do this or I'm never going to do this. And that ebb and flow, it happens with anything that we're doing. And a lot of that has to do with sort of your mood and where your headspace is versus your actual ability to do this. And you know what you need to do to get through it. And I think that's where the program is that good grounding place is even if on those days when you're feeling like you can't do it, just doing the very basics is enough. We hear about it from people who have, you know, gone through tough times, lost loved ones or whatever, that they realize like if I hadn't been doing something for my health and to take care of myself, this program has helped them take care of themselves through a time when they wouldn't have taken care of themselves or they would have gained weight because they had so much stress going on. But the very basics of that food plan and that water have kept them grounded enough that they've like, ah, I remember, I have to take care of myself.

I need to try to sleep. I need to try to drink water. I need to try to eat nutrient rich food. And sometimes that bare a minimum is enough. So if at the very least that's what you are getting out of this is that you need to take care of yourself, that in itself is a win too. Oh, God. And to do it in such a, with the support of such a beautiful community and being here, right?

And our incredible guest experts, you know, I was talking. into a friend last night who got some terrible news from another friend. And her friend's advice is like what I've learned in life is just don't stress. It's not helpful. It's not beneficial. And we spend so much time doing that. And this is an opportunity to be really proactive about your life. You have a lot of control. I don't believe in control and moderation. You're not trying to control yourself. You're not trying to moderate yourself. But you have a lot of control in the things that you're doing and how you choose to show up for yourself every day. And this is giving yourself grace on those days that are hard and really being like focused and understanding the things that you can actually

do to be proactive in your life. So on, is it Monday or Tuesday, the bod squad, Dr. Beverly, Dr. Alinka and Dr. Dina are going to join us. We're going to talk about our feels during this kind of last stage of this season of our life as we, you know, take a bit of a break, two week break in between programs when we start up again. How do we get in that right frame of mind? So they're going to join us on Tuesday. So I highly suggest you join. and is for that. Next week, we are talking maintenance for members who are ready for that, but we're also going to be assuming that you're still looking to move the dial on the scale, you're looking for next steps clarity. I want my wish for everyone is to follow through and finish

because when you reach the end, if it's your first program or 21st program, that just is like, that's just reinforcing to your soul. You can follow through. You can finish this way journey of yours. And then we're also going to make sure everyone's feeling really confident next steps, whether you're moving on to our next live session, in between programs, moving on to maintenance, whatever that is. So we're around for you. Yeah, I guess final words for our community members today. Well, don't leave after this week if you're not ready for maintenance because we're still here for you if you're looking to lose weight too. We'll give you a little glimpse into that. But yeah, I think that is the big takeaway, I think, for today. It's week 11. What do we date, 869 or something?

something like that of the program, it feels like sometimes. But, you know, you've made it this far. You've put a lot of time into yourself. Just be really proud of where you are. And, you know, think about, think about where you've come. It's a really good opportunity to think about how far you've come today when you've got like a week and a bit left in the program. And you've still lots of time to make some changes. You've got that time between groups to make changes. So you don't, you know, don't take your foot off the gas. If you're, if you're motivated and you're, you know, like pushing and you're ready to do this, like keep going. But make sure you take a minute to stop and be proud of yourself. Yeah. I'm going to let you have that last word. Thanks, everyone for joining a slide. We see all your

comments. We see all your questions. We didn't answer your question. Make sure you pop it over on the question of the day post. The team will answer it over there. Okay. Make sure you're super clear on this tweak. And there's no such thing as a silly question. Whatever it is, just reach out, ask. We want to make sure you're feeling super clear on the tweak this week. Again, do have the option of just following that basic food plan, but challenge yourself a little, like within the guide, like the guard rails of the, of the program in the last couple weeks. At least give it a try in the last couple weeks, where you can still ask questions, right? We'll talk about it.

We'll break it down for you. And then if you just want in between the break, just work the basic food plan. That's fine too. That's fine. There's no way at this point you can't mess it up, as long as you keep showing up, can't mess up. Thanks, everyone. Have a great day. Just a reminder.

I'm not going live tonight. I'm going to be heading to Montreal for the Canadian OBC. conference, but I'll be checking in from there. I'll be going live tomorrow. At least that's my plan. So have a great rest of your day. Thanks, Kim. Appreciate you. Thank you.