The Livy Method Podcast - Your Body Already Knows. Are You Listening?

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Your brain will lie to you. Your gut won't. In this episode, Gina Livy and Odette get into the real reason the scale going up after a meal isn't weight gain and why the words you use to describe it matter more than you think. They dig into the difference between "I gained weight" and "my weight is up," and how that shift in language can change the way you feel about your body entirely. Plus, they also unpack what it means to be intentional about where your energy goes this week, and how to start learning to trust yourself through a summer that looks nothing like the last one.This episode aligns with day 50 of our Spring 2026 maintenance program. You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm going to be honest with you, this podcast is unapologetically a hot mess, because that is what midlife feels like sometimes. Why, though? And how do we make it better? Do we all just need facelifts and g-lp-1s? I mean, let's talk about it. No bullshit, no wellness wankery here, because we're trying to make real change, and change is hard. But we're in this together. Welcome to the Living Method podcast.

Week 7 of the maintenance program. We're on opposite sides today, right? We're on opposite sides today. Yeah, that's cool. I'm here for it. Keeping you, you know, is that good for, like, cognitive function as we age, like shaking things up, like not doing the same thing over and over again? Yeah, let's do it.

I'm into it. There we go. I'm into it. I'm really unconcerned about my brain. Sometimes I wonder where the fuck it is and what's going on. So definitely anything I can do to keep my brain going. Yeah. And what's, I know I find myself getting that point where like, what's that word again? What did I want to say? Where am I? And I only have two kids and I keep calling them the wrong names. And I only have two. I'm like you, you, you, what you? My favorite and I can of course come up with an example right now is when I take two words and I use the front letter of each word, but I mix them around, which is like, you can't even try to do that with your brain. And I'm just like, what the how is that even? Anyway, um, you know, I, I, I love that we shake things up around here, even though it's the same process repeated,

like we do like three times a year, but we're doing it in different seasons. And we are changing as we go. So we're not the same person every time we do that. But it's long enough that you can kind of get in there, shake up your brain, shake up your body, reconnect in new ways. And then just when we start to kind of get used to it, we switch it up around here. So this week, we are going to be what was the feeding the metabolism tweak in the weight loss program. So bringing it back to satisfaction after downsizing, then splitting up those meals and snacks. And

maybe you didn't have the capacity for it in weight loss, but what we're doing here is taking the same portions that you eat to satisfaction over the next couple of days, split them up, wait 20 minutes half hour before you eat the second portion. So that allows your leptin hormone, the hormone that tells you when you're satisfied to kick in. It also helps you approach this from a different perspective where we're coming off that deprivation mindset last week, right, bringing up those diet feels, all of that. And now you have to, you have not only can you, but you have to eat that second half, or at least a token bite. So take them in two, split them up, wait, see how you feel. And then you don't have that pressure of having to leave food. You actually have the pressure of

having to eat the food. So then you're like, do I even have to have it? Yes, you do. Or taking a step further and separating your proteins from your crop. So there's a lot to learn in this tweak, although people always find it really inconvenient. It's beneficial in which. It's beneficial in weight loss, I think even more so in maintenance. I think it's more so in maintenance. I think this week, too, having it followed downsizing because we're coming back into this week and we're eating a satisfaction. And this can have people thinking automatically, oh, I'm going to eat.

I get to eat more food. Like I downsized last week. Now I'm going to, now I get to eat more food so I'm eating back to satisfaction. And then you get to Thursday and you're like, oh, wait a minute. I don't actually want that much food. Like I'm thinking like I didn't get to eat it last week. Now I'm eating a satisfaction. I get to eat it. And then you're like, oh, but I don't even really want it. No. I think that's a really important connection. And I think also why it's important is, you know,

we always talk about building habits for life and doing things over and over until they become, you know, they start to feel more natural, more normal. And this is the week, even if you're only able to split a couple meals and snacks, you're not able to do all six if you're following, you know, the food plan as laid out. it's giving you double the opportunity to use those four steps of mindful eating it's giving the opportunity to sit with those questions how would I feel if I had a few more bites how would I feel if I stopped eating now when it comes to that second portion I think it gives you double the opportunity so you're this is where that reprogramming and that rewiring happens is doing it over and over and over and over again you got to change yeah you got to make change

to see change you have to change and you have to actually make maintain that change to maintain the change, if that makes sense. Right. So this is about making real sustainable changes, not just physically, mentally, but in the way you live as well, right? So it's all about your intention of where you're coming from with maintenance. Like, what do you, don't get stuck on what you did before and why. What are you here to do now?

Right. And why? Right. Where do you want to get into this? I hear you want to talk about the power of words. You have this comment here from Lori. For the first weekend ever, I had a few things off plan. was okay with my decision and thought about why I wanted it and will I be okay after I eat it?

Will I be okay with gain from it? What's the words that you want to talk about? Those are the words I want to talk about because just as you said before, you know, don't get stuck doing the same things. Don't get stuck in the same mindset. Don't get stuck using the same language. You know, don't get, you've got to change the language that you're using. And I think when I read this comment from Lori, she said, will I be okay with the weight gain

from it? And I feel like if we're still using that word weight gain instead of fluctuation, that fluctuation is never going to feel like it's normal. The fluctuation is never going to feel like a normal pattern because we're not training our brain to say that word. We're not training our brain to think of it where if we're saying, oh, I gained weight from my one off meal, one off plan meal, I gained weight from my workout. I gained weight from being stressed out. That's the word. that's the mental mindset that you're going to keep carrying forward, where if we can slowly start to capture that and correct it into,

will I be okay with the fluctuation on the scale? Will I be okay with that happening versus that weight gain? I think that power of language and the power of words is so important. It is. And I'm trying to break this down because I just had a conversation about this in the weight loss program this morning where someone said, I had pizza and I gained 0.2 pounds and, of course, the sad face and all of that. And I'm just like, you can't, you have the deal in reality. You didn't actually gain any weight. I suppose, yes, you do. You gain weight, but you don't gain fat. So you really need to understand science, right? Like you can't, you're not just going to have a piece of pizza. And if you get on the scale the next day and your weight is up, it didn't cause you, your body didn't take that food and convert it into fat, which is now causing you to weigh more. Right. When you, um, when you, you, have foods like carbohydrates, for example, they just simply need more water for processing and

digesting them. So a lot of times you're not drinking enough water, your body's retaining water in order to process and digest. They can have a bit of inflammatory reaction, especially if you're gluten sensitive, whatever that might be. So it's like what, I don't know if it's the use of words or the intention behind the words. If you actually think that you gained real fat, that the foods that you ate cause a change in your weight physically, not just a fluctuation, due to like I weigh myself today. I eat throughout the day at the end of the night. I weigh myself for sure my weight is going to be higher than it was in the morning. I didn't actually gain fat. I didn't gain weight and the way that we talk about it. My weight is simply up. So I didn't

gain anything. It's gained nothing. It's just my weight is up. So it's all about, I think, the intention behind the words that you're using because if you seriously believe that you have gained actual weight, that's problematic. You're just wanting to see that. Like, that's not reality, right? That's diet mentality. Whereas my weight, my weight went up, you know, after, you know, indulging in whatever. That's totally different, I think. I think it's like how we internalize. Why would you be upset about the scale going up, point whatever, because you had pizza if it's not really any real weight gain? But the fields are, there. So does changing the terminology change the feels? In many cases, I think so. My weight is up

because I, you know, I had pizza and didn't drink enough water yesterday as opposed to I gained weight because I had pizza and water yesterday. Like I think the meanings are two completely different things. But, you know, we're nitpicking. It's all about how you internalize it. How you internalize it. And I think if you're in this place where maybe we're just starting it with maintenance or we're not sure, wait, how do I build that trash? How do I start believing? Maybe your words, you know, will carry more weight for you. Maybe your words will make a bigger impact until you can start just using those, using them

with a different intention. Yeah. I hear you. Sorry, I just got caught up reading comments. I'm really seeing the patterns of my fluctuations now. I love that. Janice, the same thing with Melanie. Saying my weight is up rather than I gain weight makes all the difference.

Yeah. It does, right? And I love that you're picking up on patterns. it's why I still think tracking your weight can be really beneficial along with how you are feeling and the choices that you're making to understand what what maintenance now looks like and feels like to you. What is normal for you for maintenance? What is normal for you in the summer? In the summertime, my body just expands like crazy in the heat. I tend to sit on the higher end of my weight just by actually doing nothing in the fall. My weight will drop back down, right? How does my body respond to eating,

you know, certain foods, really understanding what's normal for me, right? What does maintenance look like and feel like so what's happening on the scale in terms of fluctuations along with how you are feeling really important data like really important data um i was just saying this morning that i still love the guess your weight game before you get on the scale like guess what your weight is and if you're if you think your weight is up then be like why why do i think my weight is up today like go through it so you're not you're not letting the scale dictate your feels you already have an understanding of what your weight is at and what's going on in your body without the scale having to give you that information. Then you can be like, oh, yeah, okay, well, this is how I felt,

this is what the scale says, this makes sense. All right, like, you're just, you're using the scale as a tool and collecting data, you know? Yeah, and I think it's so important to mention, too, that, you know, we talk about data and collecting this data. And this is why when you're here in the maintenance program and you're going through it and you're getting, doing all of these first, you're not going to know. You might be like, Gina, I don't know what my data is. I don't know what my patterns are. I don't know what that looks like yet.

And that's why as we do this and we go through it, this is where it's going to come from. You know, this might be your first summer, you know, that you're not actively trying to get to your lowest low. So what does that look like on the scale for you if you're still weighing yourself? And that's the data that you're going to be collecting over the next few weeks. That's a data you're going to be collecting over the next year even. So it's not like you have to have it all figured out and know.

what your patterns are and your fluctuations are. You know, when we look at someone like Melanie, like we know Melanie has been here for a few years, she's been maintaining her weight, living her life, being out there collecting this data, getting to know her patterns and fluctuations. And that's why we say,

like, you've got to put that time in, you've got to put that work in because that's what you're going to start collecting. And that's what you're going to start knowing, being able to connect those dots. Yeah, Melanie's live in her life. I know because she invited me to a Jays game

and she was eating a cookie and the popcorn and the little candy thing. She's, you know, the pattern, like really getting to know yourself and your patterns, right? Like that's, this is why I love tracking your weight still, using the app, picking up on those fluctuations, like what is the pattern? What is your pattern of behavior? What's your pattern of thought?

And that's really what we're trying to do with this tweet this week, this week, is interrupt that. There was a comment here. where was it from Kim? I really appreciate this tweak because it helps to remind me that the body will always tell me when it's satisfied, even when my mind tells me otherwise. I often find that if I wait 15 to 20 minutes after I feel satisfied, I really don't want anymore, even though my brain often tell me to eat more.

Yeah. Like there's a, there is that, that brain hunger, right? Like, did I eat enough? Do I want to eat more? This is delicious. What if I this? What if I thought? That food noise that is happening in your brain?

but really that's why if you get out of your head and into your body, what is your body telling you? Your body is like, yeah, no, we're done. Man, we're just, we're done. That's enough. Like, I think a lot of us, like, we are grownups. We could, I could go buy a bag of chips right now. I could go buy chocolate. I can go buy Big Mac.

I can go buy Dairy Queen. Yet it's so strange that when we eat it, it's almost like this is our only chance to have it. And we need to indulge in it and have more. And I don't know if that's our upbringing, like just our generation. or scarcity. I don't spend enough time with the younger generation, to be honest, to know. I just know my own kids. But where does that, like that's kind of like a learned behavior, right?

Yeah. And I think it's also been part of that, that restriction, that, that mentality where this is a forbidden food. This is not a food you can have whenever you want because it's not a good choice. So then when you, when you're like, oh, I'm going to, I can do this. I'm going to, I can go buy a bag of chips. I can go buy the Big Mac, like you said. I can go buy the dairy clean.

and I'm going to have it because I'm not allowed to have it or I'm not supposed to have it or it's this forbidden thing, this bad food. And then that's how you start to think of it instead of like, yeah, I can go get it if I want it. Yeah. And like full stop. I can go get it if I want it, but like, oh, I have to go get it and sneak it or enjoy it or feel guilty about it. I think that's where I think it comes from, yes, it is a learned behavior, but it's learn

and it's learn messaging at the same time. Yeah. Learn messaging. Speaking of learn messaging, this is what. continuing to ask those four sets of mind bleeding questions, right? And asking them twice as many times. We're getting your body to work harder, lowering the amount of insulin that happens when you have larger meals, really digging into those four.

If you cannot trust those four sets of mindful eating questions, like you know them instantly, you still have work to do because that's part of maintaining your weight is not even having to ask anymore, just knowing, just knowing how you're going to feel before I even eat that, just knowing that, you know, when I'm, when at the exact point when I've had enough, knowing what I'm going to overeat, I'm being intentional. If I'm, I'm overeating, I know I am. And therefore it is what it is and avoiding that aftermath that happens. Like this is like where you want, this is where you really want to be calm around food.

And that's what that means. They're really being in tune to your body's cues and be able to trust that. So again, just really doubling down on that this week. What else do you want to talk about the tweak this week? I think what also is really key with feeding metabolism is you can really start to understand how certain foods make you feel. So when you are splitting up, so maybe there's a day where you don't split and split the components where you're having the protein first and the veggies later.

Maybe you just, you know, that's the day you have the veggies first because that's just what you did that day, even though we say have the protein first. And then you notice, okay, I wasn't as satisfied on just the veggies where then you do split the components and have the protein first. You're like, oh, I see how this does play into my satiety hormones. I do see how I am more satisfied for this type of food. When you start to learn that, that connection, later on, you're going to be able to make those choices. Like, okay, I'm going to need sustained energy. These are the foods I'm going to choose because that's what that I know is going to help me feel satisfied longer. Oh, I need quick energy. Now I need, now I know that I'm

going to need pick those quicker digesting foods like the fruits and, you know, those veggies. So that's it's going to take you one step further to be able to make those choices later on. Yeah, making those connections, but in both ways, right? Here's Cam. I was at Dollar Ram and I saw my favorite chocolate sitting there and I bought it because my brain told me, go for it. You can have that. But then when I ate it, I overindulge and had what I called a food hangover the next day.

Right. You can feel it, right? So I dumped the rest in the compost bin, but by having it, I did quiet food noise and learn what my limits are. Yeah. And this is about reconnecting like the dog. thoughts or how your brain is wired, right? And this has you thinking about food all the time, but you're really associating.

Your body knows what it feels like when it ate that chocolate. It probably knew before you even ate it. Right. Your brain said, go for it. Your body was like, way, no. No. And this is like practicing being in tune with how those connections with those foods and how they make you feel.

Because if you had to say, okay, just eat whatever you feel like. your body, you would be like, well, my body feels like donuts and chocolate and, you know, whatever. And in reality, it doesn't. Your body does not want any of those things. That's your brain. Your brain is wired to that dopamine to the sugar, to the hits, to the pleasure, to the choice. Your body is not. If you were to ask your body, like, think about that chocolate right now.

I bet you your tummy feels upset, right? Like, if you just think about that big thing of chocolate, eating that again, like, I don't even have to eat it. my body does not want chocolate right now. So this is a lot of times that we were in our head, we think, oh, it's left up to my own. My body ran the show, what would it get you to eat? Your body would get you to eat good foods. Your brain would fuck you over. Yeah.

Right? Like that's the difference. And that's where we're trying to rewire the body and rewire the brain or reconnect the body and reconnect the brain and then connect the two together in a way. we have a much calmer relationship with food and you can trust your body's cues and those messages that you're just talking about. Yeah. And you know, the term is what's your gut feeling? You know, it's not what's your brain feeling. What's your gut feeling? What is your gut telling you? What is your brain telling you? Because your brain's going to tell you what you want to hear,

right? Because that's what you've been conditioned to hear. Yeah. Your gut is going to tell you the truth. Your gut is going to tell you what the real deal is. So it's what's your gut feeling. So yes, your brain said go for it. So you went for it. But then your belly was like, I'm going to make you, I'm going to make sure you knew exactly how I felt about it after the facts. It was not to listen. So yeah, what's your, what's your gut telling you about it?

Yeah. That's why also when you eat foods that you like, you do regret after like really indulge in that regret feeling. Don't punish yourself. But like that does not make me feel good. Right. And then your body kind of registers takes note of that. and then that that's in your back pocket.

So next time you're faced with that indulgence, your body will be like, no, no, no, no, never ignore your gut. It won't steer you wrong. It's so true. It's so true. They say like happy, what is it? Like 70% of your immune system is in your gut that they've been put, they've put so much more connection now between gut health and brain health.

Your gut is important. I mean, just to talk about your actual like little guts, but like to talk about that intuition, that is in there, that lives in there, we've all had that feeling in our belly that's like, something's not right here, you know, whether it's a situation or a scenario, same goes for, you know, the choices, the food choices that you make. I think as you get older, your body is constantly keeping tabs on everything that you do, everything you think, everything you feel, everything you eat, like all of that.

And your intuition is based up on your body knowing what works for you and what doesn't work for you, that mind-body connection, right? It is kind of a learned behavior. And that's where I think a lot of people just don't have trust in it. Where, like, asking those four sets of mindful eating questions is like practicing being, being in tune, right? Like, splitting up the meals and snacks is practicing being in a way that kind of lets your guard down after downsizing. You know, it's almost like heightening your mind-body connection or that gut. You're going to get, following your gut never, never steers you wrong.

Ever, ever, ever, ever. We trust that in life, but we don't trust it when it comes to what to eat and when and how much, which is really interesting. It's true, because how many times in life have you had to make a decision? You're like, oh, I'm not sure. I have this feeling about it that I should say no or whatever it might be. Not even related to food, related to something totally different. And then you make the opposite decision. and are like, I should have listened to my gut.

Why didn't I listen to my gut? And that's not even food related. That could be any type of decision you have to make. And the same does ring true for. Yeah, we'll probably say the same thing for food. You have here to ask yourself, how do you ask your gut, how would you feel if you ate this versus that? He'll tell you. It will tell you.

Yeah. It will tell you for sure. What else do you want to talk about? Two things. So we got time. So two things. So this is the week of optimizing as well. And we talked a little bit about this in week two.

And this is really the time when, you know, we've been here now seven weeks, plus prep week, so eight weeks, you know, really talking about intention and being intentioned with our actions and being intentional with what we're doing. And this is really the week over the next, you know, we're going to start feeding the metabolism in a few days. But these next few days really being intentional about what you're needing, what your body is needing, where your focus needs to go. You know, when we talk sustainability, when we talk long term,

When we think about doing all of the things all of the time, already I'm exhausted. Already I'm going to feel like I'm burnt out. So it's really about these next few days, being really intentional about what you need, what your body needs, where you need to put your focus. We've been hearing a lot in the group like I'm forgetting to drink my water. Okay, maybe that's the one thing you work on right now. You know, nobody seems to be sleeping too bad right now. And I think people are getting out there and moving their body because it's that time of season.

So if you hear yourself saying the same thing over and over again, like, oh, it's Monday, I've got to focus on my water again. It's Monday. I need to focus on my movement again. Maybe over the next couple days, be really intentional about where your energy needs to go and what we need to think about. Of course, all of the things are important, but at certain times, just like we ebb and flow, be in tune and intentional about where your energy needs to go.

Yeah. And again, with these live sessions, right? I mean, we created the membership because you working on yourself is all day, every day, all year, basically. It's never ending. Weight loss, maintenance, living your best life, lifestyle. That's ongoing all the time. These 91-day live sessions are there to commit to a timeframe of being intentional about focusing on XYZ. It's great to connect with the community.

It's great opportunity to learn. Conversations in real time. I'm like there's so much benefit to these live sessions. But I think just as each season of your life, like what you have going on in your life, while you are doing these seasonal sessions is different. I think each season is different too. Like how you showed up for the maintenance session in winter, probably different than your, how you are showing up for the maintenance session in summer.

And it should be different, right? Like it should be different. maybe in the winter you were home it was dark we were whatever this was that you were feeling a certain way now maybe your life is changing you have road trips you're out and about maybe you've added a new exercise routine like you i don't know whatever it is you don't have time in the mornings anymore to to do this or do that like this is where it should it should feel different it should be different yes the all the things you can do is the same and we set the bar really high around here but what you actually do, what you put into it, what you get out of it, I think it's okay for that

to be different season to season. You know, like it should change. What is what is this session, this season of your life season actually spring, summer? What is what is your what do you, what are you focused on here? What is your capacity? Like how are you navigating this time of your life? And that, that should be different. Yeah. It should be different. I think you need to be open to it being different. And yeah, Funny you said road trips there because we're seeing so many of our members in the group. We actually have a post coming out tomorrow based on the conversation. Road trips.

Like so many of our members are starting to travel a little bit or they're getting on the road and they're like, I don't know how to navigate this. How do I do this? You know, how do I continue to feel my best when I'm doing these things? So yeah, you just be open to those experiences and not happening and knowing that maybe it didn't happen so much in the last session or the last season of your. life. But now that we're here, things are changing. Routines are changing. Your actions are changing. Your activities are changing. Yes. And just to be open to that and be able to just, you know,

to pivot and adapt to that. And to be, I think just, I said again, just be open to it. Have those fresh eyes. Have that open mind. Instead of being fearful and anticipating what's going to happen, being open to the experience coming and learning from it and being able to grow with it. Yeah, because you have to live your life. Yeah. So tomorrow we're going to, everybody, some great road trip tips. Do you have road trips coming up? Well, I live, no, not really.

I live about, well, I'm going to New York City in August, so I'm driving. So that's going to be a road trip, but it's only, it's only, you know, nine, eight hours. But I road trip almost every weekend, it's about a four and a half hour drive to the cottage. So even that in itself is a bit of a road trip. You know, if you got to think about how am I going to drink? What am I going to eat? Am I going to stop for dinner? Where am I going to stop for dinner?

So just to help you quiet that noise and enjoy your trip. What about you? Are you road tripping? Are you much of a road tripper? No, I'm going up to Muscoa this weekend. Oh, nice. It's like an annual girls kind of weekend thing. We're going to just hang out and golf for a bit.

So that's a bit of a Friday. So that'll take 16 hours. Yeah. My lake field of my mom and family lives. that's like an hour and 40. So that's always like enough of a road trip. Tony and I recently went to Montreal. I think, no, hopefully not.

I want to stay. I mean, I do have a trip coming up with the family. We are going to Europe with Tony's parents celebrating their 50th anniversary, which is just crazy. And so that's going to be amazing. But other than that, I don't know. We'll see what the, like we went to the city yesterday. We were in Toronto.

That itself feels like a road trip. sometimes trying to plan that out. But just how you would plan a road trip, that's how you should plan your whole summer. Like take a look at your social calendars. Like what's going on this weekend? If you did have an eight hour drive, how would you plan that? Stops at the grocery store, minimize your water drink. You don't want to stop pee.

You want to whatever. Like how's that going to look? Right. Same thing with your whole weekend than your whole summer. Yeah. You have a bit of a plan. You have an eight hour event coming up. How do you plan for that?

It doesn't even have to be on the road, right? It can be just a whole day's event. How do you plan for that? You know, I think back to the road trips that we did take, you know, I did Florida a couple times. We did the East Coast when the kids were little a couple times. And to think of how much more we know now to maximize a road trip before we were just trying to survive. Yeah.

We're just trying to survive it. Where now I think we, you know, we could have all the things that you could do differently to have a great. It's a journey, not the destination. the journey, not the destination. Here's Kim. Road trip into White Horace, Yukon. I love that.

Luckily, I do all my own cooking and it's barbecue season. Oh, that's so great. That's so great. Yeah, I mean, we don't want to, we're all in it together. We're just trying to feel our way through it. How do we navigate it? Continue to make choices that make us feel good, that get us one step closer to really feeling confident that we just contrast.

Wake up, look, good, feel good, you know, go about my day, not even stressing about anything. We just know and more than we know, because a lot of us know it's about learning to trust. Learning to trust for sure. Yeah, I think a post on road trip tips is a good one. I'm going to be back tomorrow night for Q&A and I'm going to be back with you on Wednesday. What do you want our members to focus on between now and then? So between now and then, just what I mentioned earlier, just really paying attention

to where your energy needs to go for the next few days, where your effort needs to go. I think it's easy to come back on a Monday and be like, I'm back on track this week. after the weekend. But what does that mean? Really define it. Where does your energy need to go? What do you need to work on over the next few days? And then just, um, be open to feeding the metabolism on Thursday. We're going to talk much more about it on Wednesday, but just, yeah, be open to giving it a try again with fresh eyes with a bit of a different intention. Yeah. Love that. Okay. Great. Well, nice to see you. Thanks, everyone who came and hung out with us. Hi, Lina. Thanks, um, thanks, thanks, guys. Have a great rest of your day and we'll see you next time.

See you next time. Bye. been.