The Livy Method Podcast - You're not afraid of the dessert. You're afraid of who you used to be.

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

You cannot go back to the exact same life that created the version of you you're trying to change. That's the uncomfortable truth Odette and Gina Livy puts on the table in this Midweek Motivation.This one digs into what consistency actually looks like when it's working (spoiler: it stops feeling like effort), how to stop white-knuckling your way through social situations and dinners you didn't plan, and why the fear of eating off-plan has nothing to do with the food itself.This episode aligns with day 38 of our Spring 2026 maintenance program. You can find the full video hosted at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/ginalivymaintenanceandmindfulnessTo learn more about The Livy Method and our Maintenance & Mindfulness group, visit livymethod.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm going to be honest with you, this podcast is unapologetically a hot mess because that is what midlife feels like sometimes. Why, though? And how do we make it better? Do we all just need facelifts and gLP ones? I mean, let's talk about it. No bullshit, no wellness wangery here because we're trying to make real change and change is hard. But we're in this together. Welcome to the Living Method podcast.

Well, this is a surprise. It's just me right now. Hello. Hello, we welcome to Midweek Motivation. So we think Gina is on her way. So we will hold tight for that. But let's just get going anyways. I mean, that's how we roll around here, right?

Let's just get right into it. So hello, welcome to everybody. This will be like, you know, an extended check-in. So if you do have any questions, though, be sure to load them up. If you're here watching, say hello. I am watching those comments and hoping that you're here with me. Okay. So I want to just get into this week a little bit.

and this week of confidence and consistency. And, you know, we've been hearing over time that consistency feels hard. Doing those same things day in and day out can feel hard. And we had this comment from a member not too long ago. And I wanted to bring it up again about consistency and what it can look like and doing all of these things day in and day out. So it was a comment from our member, Nanette. And she said, I can't believe I've lost. three pounds without even trying. I was just being mindful of what I eat, how I feel,

adding a bit of small exercises here and there. I walk my dogs every day, lots of water and sleep. And I thought it was really interesting that she said without even trying. And I think this just goes to prove that point that when we are just doing the things that matter, doing the things that feel good, doing the things that we know work for us, this is when it just becomes part of who we are. It just becomes part of our everyday lives. So it can get to that point where you feel like you're not even trying because even though you're doing all of those things, it's just a part of your day to day. So I just wanted to make that point that, you know, we can feel like consistency is hard that we have to focus on doing the things. But eventually it's going to become this place

where it's just who we are. It's just what we do. We just go about doing these things. Just, you know, making those choices that make us feel good. We're focusing on our sleep. We're focusing on, you know, getting that movement in, those things that make us feel really good. And then we don't have to tie that word consistency to it. We don't have to think, like, I got to be consistent. I got to do the things.

You know, I have to check all those boxes. No, I'm just going to get to this place where I'm doing. And it becomes this idea of I'm not even trying. I'm not even forcing myself to do the things. It's because you're just going to do them anyway. So I just wanted to make that point where, if you're sitting here where you know this it feels like

you're trying to check those boxes do all the things all the time that eventually it's going to be um just this natural part of who you are I think I heard somebody come in to I'm like now my phone who's calling me I am like I was literally having this conversation about our website trying to make like you know

because we have our new membership and how do we make it more simple I feel like everything's so complicated yeah and then I was like oh what and I was like making my tea because I had no mug. See what time is it? Oh, that's nice one. I'm like, what?

I thought it was 11.05. Yeah. Um, what are you talking about? Hi. This is, I'm having the weirdest fucking week ever. Yeah. It's like everything is funny. I asked, I asked for bailies, but he's giving me milk.

I said it's a better idea. I need bellies in my tea. I'm like, or milk. Well, I'm glad you here. Thank you for coming. How was that? It was good. I knew what I wanted to talk about. I thought maybe I would stay more on track too. I wasn't worried. I wasn't worried about you. I was like, oh, that's fine.

I was just making a point about, so everyone I can listen to it all over again, making this point about consistency. And hearing our members saying, it's so hard to be consistent. It's so hard to, you know, think about all the things you need to do day in and day out. And I highlighted a comment from one of our members how she said, you know, I can't believe, have I lost three pounds without even trying. But then goes on to say, I was being mindful of how I, of what I'm eating and how I'm feeling. I'm getting an exercise. I'm walking my dog, lots of sleep and water. And I was like, dude, what do you mean you're not even trying? You're doing all of the things. And I think when it becomes just a part of who you are and what you do, it feels like you're not trying because you're just doing the things. You don't have to

actively tell yourself, I need to do this. I need to make sure I'm checking those boxes. I need to make sure, you know, everything is aligned. You just do it. So it feels like you're not even trying. But the reality is you're living the principles. You're doing the things that you know make a difference. Yeah. I was just thinking the same thing. If you're having a hard time trying, doing all the things, you're not there yet. Yeah. Because it shouldn't living the things that the goal here is to live the things live you cannot go back to the exact same life that created the version of you that you're trying to change let me say that again you cannot go back to the exact same life the exact same environment that created the version of you that you are

trying to change to desperately change that version of you caused your body to feel an need to store fat like you you picked all of that you might not have chosen the circumstances that happened to you, but you chose the way you responded to the things that happened to you, and therefore you were absolutely 100% a product of that. And so you have to make the changes. So if you can't make the changes, you can't keep up. Now it feels like so much work to you, you're not there yet because it shouldn't feel like any work to you. In the end, it should feel like exactly what she said, oh, so easily lost three pounds. well, you didn't. It's, it's, it's, it's all the things that you are doing in combination of living that life that led to that. We overcomplicate things by like life is hard, right? I am busy. I don't make time for myself. I have no bandwidth. I have a million fucking things to do. That's what's hard. It's not the things you need to do to live the healthy lifestyle. That's not the part that's hard. So yeah, you're not there yet. You're still good. You recognize you still have work to do. Yeah. So I thought that was a really great point we wanted to make about that. You know, you're just, you

will get there. And I know this is a comment that, you know, we've seen something similar before, but I think it just hits the nail on the head. Like, once you're there, it's just, you're just doing it. You're just going through it. You don't have to think about it and tick those boxes. So yeah, if you're, if, and I don't want to invalidate people that aren't there yet. And it would like, you know, oh, it's so easy to lose three pounds. Like, no, like, yeah, that's not what we're saying. We're just saying that it can be hard. It can be hard. It can be hard until you figure it out. and this conversation of being in this middle place now that it can feel even harder because you just want to be done.

You just want to be there. You just like we said on Monday, you just want that freedom to be where Nanette is and to feel like you're not doing these things. So this is like the time where we're doing that work to get you to that place. And what is consistency anyway, right? Like there are very few things we're actually very consistent about. I would say most people are pretty consistent about brushing their teeth. but if you ask me if I brushed mine today, the answer is no.

Also, I have not brushed the back of my head. And so, you know what I mean? Like most days I brush my teeth and most days I brush my hair. And today was one that I didn't realize until now that I haven't brushed my teeth. And, you know, haven't brushed my hair. And so that's with everything, but that's part of who I am. Brushing my teeth every day is who I am. Brushing my hair and doing my hair is part of who I am.

So what is consistency? Consistency is most often than not I am doing those things. But there are times in my life. And this week of my life is a shit show. I don't know what is up and what is down. I don't even know. I feel like I just am floating around nowhereness. And so that is representative.

I am right now representative. of what I've got going on in my life right now. Tomorrow, maybe different. Next week, different, whatever. That's the ebb and flow. That's the ebb and flow. So what is consistency anyway? Consistency is most times I brush my teeth in my hair

and there are times in my life when it's hard to do that. Yeah. There was another comment. It's really long, but I wanted to talk about it. And it's from our member, Deborah. And I think this also plays into this piece of consistency because it's about, you know, being there and living your life, but also following the principle. So let's just, I'm going to break it down.

It is long. So let's just do this one. So it's from Deborah. She said, I live alone. So I try to accept as many invitations to go out as possible. As seniors, most of these involve community dinners or church socials, again, involving eating. Sounds fun. Yeah, right?

Yeah. You can't pick your meal and there's always dessert. I try to choose something that reflects the plan, but, not always possible and the dessert may be too delicious to resist. I try to make sure the rest of my meals and snacks that day follow the plan and I focus on eating to satisfaction even if it means bringing some food home. I just find it hard navigating this but I need the social connection as I'm now a widow and the days can be long.

So what I wanted to say about this is I know that Deborah feels like she's having a hard time navigating this. And when I read this, I think that's a valid feeling. You feel like you want to make the right choices all the time. You want to make those choices that align. But what I also hear from this is that Deborah is going out and she's enjoying her life. She's living her life. She's being social. She knows she needs that interaction. She can't avoid that interaction because she can't let, you know, that part of her life suffer. But what she's being mindful of doing is following the principles all of the other times. You know, she says, I'm still, you know, mindful of my satisfaction.

I'm still mindful of making sure that, you know, I bringing food home, that I'm not overindulging all the time. So I think it's this, it's living this life where you're still doing the things, but you're still being mindful and aware of, you know, doing the other things that matter at the same time. I guess what I am missing is, is your weight. going up, right? And like, listen, you keep eating dessert later in the day. It's going to mess with your sleep, which is going to get you to crave more carbs. You're going to feel more bloated. Like, that's just how it's going to be. I think when you don't have a choice over the dinners,

I'm thinking, how bad can it be? Is it Kentucky fried chicken? Or are we just talking about some potatoes and some pasta for dinner, right? Like, and then I'm also like, there is food that maybe is not your ideal, like more protein, more veg, whatever that is. But of what you're being served. Maybe if it's a spaghetti dinner, no one's serving a side of broccoli or a salad with it. Like, I get that, right? Then then still, though, there is being in tune with your portions when it comes to that serving. And, you know, I think it's like, and then the part, so I'm like, okay, I get you don't have control over your food, but I'm assuming it's decently cooked food and not McDonald's or, you know, it's not just junk food all the time. If it is, I guess that's something

a little different, which I would say maybe bring your own food with you. And I, I think, think you'll be surprised but how many people have respect for that and maybe you'll start a rally of like, okay, this food is shit. Let's start serving better foods. But I think you can't control the situation always, especially in social situations. But you cannot make me eat something that I do not want to eat. Right? Like I don't care if I'm surrounded by all the people and everyone's eating the same thing. If I don't want to eat it, I'm not eating it. And so I think that you've got to own that. Like you are entitled to be there at that social event and there's no reason why you can't have just as much fun eating the portion that's appropriate for you and or bringing your own food because what if they're serving pasta and you have an allergy to it, right? Like you still are you're allowed to be there.

And you and so there's that, right? Like how do you make that work for you? Just because you're not getting the food that you want doesn't mean you have to overeat that food. So I'm having a hard time how that dinner, even if uncontrolled, every now and then or even more often than not, is really going to affect your weight journey. It's not. The other thing is the dessert that sometimes is too hard to resist. I'm like, so this is where, okay, life is short.

You can't pick your meal and there's always a dessert. I try to choose something that reflects the plan, but not always possible. And the dessert may be too delicious to resist. Okay. So you don't have to eat the whole. whole dessert, right? Like, why can't you have a piece of the pie and have a bite? That's where you want to get to. Because it sounds to me, like you're writing this because you're actually not happy with your choices, A, or you're not happy with how you're feeling after those choices.

Because to me, like, this is amazing. You live a life where you're getting out and you're being social and like, I don't know, there's food there and there's people like, that is so incredible. So how do you match that up with how you want to feel and the choices you want to make? Because life is too short, yes, but it's also too short to feel like crap. And so you want to maintain feeling your best. So this is where you've got to figure out, right? Like is that dessert really? And I don't like is the dessert worth having?

But like if you're getting dessert like three, four times a week, like, and is the dessert bringing you the joy that's worthy of how you're going to feel after having that dessert? Because it's going to mess with your sleep. right. I'm not talking about calories, good care last, right? So that's that kind of like, who is this, how does this new version of you show up to these events? Mm-hmm. And that's the question that it's not about do I go, do I not go? How does that version of you show up to these events and leave in a way you feel fantastic? That was a great night.

Food, food, whatever, had a great time, feel amazing. That's it. Yeah, and I think it's important that she, um, recognizes that too. Like she knows that she wants to go. She knows that's an important part. She's allowed to be there like you said. But then also like you said, how does that version show up for yourself?

And why? And maybe why like are you still feeling some of that old diet mentality, that old diet pressure? Like if I if I don't participate, then, you know, I'm not going to be allowed to be here. Or these foods are bad. So this is why I'm feeling ways about it versus just I'm just going to. to, you know, have it and move on. I think that that's, that's part of the of the question too, is like, you know, what version shows up for you? But then what language are you using, you know, once you're there at the same time? What are you telling yourself exactly about these events at the

same time? Yeah, because I would be like, hey, do you want to split like, I go out, if I go out with Sonia or whatever, we'll sometimes split a meal because I'm like, you order yours, mirror your mind, it's too much food. Let's split it. Or, you know, I'll go out with four people and be like, let's, let's split the dessert. So everyone just gets a little bite. Like, You know, like I think that I think we're so used to doing things that way that we do. Everyone gets a salad and a meal and a dessert. So you sit there and you think you need to eat it. When you really, you don't.

Take it home. Throw on your fridge. Get it away. You know, like, yeah, I think this is like because I'm assuming the disconnect here is that she's not feeling as good as she could. There's some stress here. There's some stress happening. And the stress is not having places to go. That's not the stress.

That's amazing. How do you feel your best? and make choices, I think, that honor you. So what's, I don't, what's the problem, right? Like, that's, that's where she needs to think about, what is the issue here with me? Like, why am I stressed about this? Or why is this difficult for me? Because I would go and not feel like I need to eat any of it.

Eat, eat before you go. Yeah. It's almost like it's, now that I'm, like, just looking at the comment. Again, it's also like, like, we're trying to put this, justification on it. Like I have to go, I have to go because I need the social connection. I have to go and be around this food because I don't want to be alone. And I think if we can just capture that thought and think, I want to go even though there

is this food, I want to go because there is that social connection. Not, you know, I have to, well, I have to do it because I don't want to be, you know, lonely or left out. And I'm not saying that's, you know, exactly what's going on there. But I think that was when you read that comment again, it's almost like, oh, like there's this justification. Like, this is why I'm around this food. This is why I'm around, you know, these desserts and what's on the plate. So I have to go to these social situations and there is dessert there, which is too good to resist.

And therefore I'm having it. Yeah. But really, if you're going to the social situations, it's for the people, probably not for the food. Can you still have a dessert? Yeah. But like, let's have a bite of the dessert. What if you went there and allowed yourself to have the dessert, but you ate it in tune to your body's needs? And, you know, there could be some food waste issues there too.

Like you don't want to waste the food that's been made for you. But just because someone made you that food and plopped it in front of you, it doesn't mean you're a garbage can and you have to devour all of it. You're allowed to leave some. And if that, if there is judgment on you for that in that situation, start bringing a takeout container with you, right? And I'd be like, I'm going to take it home. Like my kid's dad mom was here yesterday. You cannot make that woman eat past a certain time at night. She ain't having it.

She ain't having it. At night, she's like, where's the food? Someone put some rice on. I'm not eating late. Like she didn't care. She stuck around to like 9 o'clock at night. But she was like, uh-uh, when I eat late, I do not feel well. I do not want.

And she had a little sweet, but she knows that she wants to have her meal and have her sweet early enough that it's not messing with her sleep. Right. So you can't make her like do that. So that's, I think you own a, I think that's that you have to own that the way you live your life now in the way that works for you. I love that she put this out. Yeah. Yeah.

And I just, and I know I mentioned it before about this, you know, diet mentality and diet thoughts and this word around resist, you know, like the dessert might be too delicious to resist. Why do you feel like you have to resist it? Like is this, are we still labeling these, these. these foods, these, you know, good food, bad food, I need to resist it. It's not because, like, are you resisting it because you feel like you should or, like, I just feel like we don't need to resist foods. Either we want it or we don't want it. And if you want it, then have a couple bites. Make that choice that aligns with you. And then that's it. I think when we keep labeling, like, I have to resist it. It's too yummy. I can't. It's a forbidden food. That almost

makes it like, like it's keeping you a little bit stuck in that cycle of that mentality, of that feeling of like, oh, this, you know, and then it's, then you're again, having to justify being there because then you have to resist all of these things, whether or not just making a conscious choice of having it or not having it. So when you are living your life and also maintaining your way in a way that you can maintain your weight, you can absolutely have desserts. Like that you're not going to, having the dessert is not going to cause you to gain your weight back. I think the struggle might be in context of I'm doing the maintenance program and yet I need to be social, yet there's these desserts that's making it hard for me. Like that's kind of having your cake and eating it too, right?

And so maybe we might need to talk about the context of you're following the 91 day maintenance program to help solidify your weight to bring up the thoughts and feels that you're having. To me, it's not black and white, right? And to me, it's so worthy of you doing the other things that you're doing. And to learn this right now, to have this come up is such a valuable takeaway from doing the program right now to be like, huh. So this is what's happening. I want to be social. There's a bit of an issue with my food choices here.

And that's the work for you in this round of this 91 day challenge. I'm going to start calling them challenges, by the way. you know, this 91 day chunk of time that you signed up to help focus on solidifying your weight and continuing to unravel the things that you need to work on and work through. And so this has come up. And, you know, can you still do the maintenance program and add dessert every now? Yes. Oh, my God, yes.

You know, like you just have to know your intention and what you are doing. Because very quickly you can do something that's structured and there's rhyme and reason to it. Just kind of everything is chaotic. But that's the, that's the, what are the things you're thinking on and thinking through that's coming up for you? That's the work. We just had this other, along the same lines, this comment from Christine. And she says, I'm trying to make good choices, but still struggle with the fear of eating off

plan during social events. So it's a lifelong thing that must be part of the journey. So. Yeah, that's the ebb and flow. I eat off plan all the time. I had two brownies for breakfast yesterday. Yes, you did. I did.

Did I have them today? No, I did not. Yesterday was a emotional day. It was a bit of a shit show. I also bought a bottle of wine and I had like two sips at the end of the night. It wasn't even the wine. I didn't want the wine. I wanted what the wine represented.

And I poured it at 10.30 at night. And I was just like, I'm going to open this wine. And I had two sips. I'm like, I don't even why I don't want this wine. You know, so that's the, that's the ebb and off. They're not supposed to be on plan for the rest of your life. Right. And so this is taking us to your following.

this structure to help the body sooner rather than later adjust to your new weight. You're following this structure because it's great for bringing up the thoughts and feels. It's great for you to see that recents routine. It's great for you to know what off plan feels like. Yes. And so eventually you remember when we go back and if you are just new to the maintenance program and didn't lose your weight through the living method, there are a couple weeks at the end that are teaching you to personalize the plan, to eat more in tune to

your body's needs. So when you're done with the living method and living your life, there is no plan. There is trusting when to eat. I'm hungry versus triggered versus habit. What to eat. I need some protein versus fruit versus carbs or veggies. I know exactly how much to eat. This is, I've had enough. I don't need any more versus this shit is good. So I'm intentionally going to overeat it, but I'm making a plan for that. Right. So that is the goal. So when you still struggle with the fear, of eating off plan during social events. Your fear isn't eating off plan. Your fear is gaining the weight back.

Eating off plan or eating something that wasn't on your plan during a social event is part of it. Like how do I navigate this event and then not berate yourself, punish yourself, starve yourself afterwards, whatever the aftermath of that used to be. It just needs to be, I had the two brownies for breakfast yesterday. So today, I'm just going to choose not to do that again. And so I'm not starving myself today. I'm having my eggs. I'm having my berries.

I don't know. I don't know what. Hopefully Tony's cooking me lunch right now. I don't know what I'm having for lunch. Maybe leftovers from yesterday. See, so is the fear really that or is the fear of the aftermath of you falling back into old habits? This fear of one day off plan or one meal off plan is going to turn into one day, is going to turn into three days, it's going to turn into just being right back to where you started.

That's where the fear is. The fear is not the food itself. You know, you can sit down and you can have a bite of that food or two bites or a whole meal if you want. And that one meal, that one food is not what you're fearful of. What you're fearful is, like you said, is it going to spiral me back into old habits? It's going to take me back to that place that I worked so hard to come away from. Yeah, that's where that fear is. Or lose control. Yeah. Right. And that's part of that. I mean, We talk about this all the time. It's part of that self-trust. It's part of that confidence that you haven't built that yet.

You haven't lived those experiences. You haven't proven to yourself that one meal is not going to take you back there. That one day is not going to take you back there. You haven't proven that to yourself yet. So you are going to question that you are going to feel a little bit of that uncertainty, a little bit of that fear. Did your pen just get stuck in your hair? Yeah, I did.

And how do you? I honestly God, I think I just should keep it there. And that's a great symbol. I will always know where it is. And how do you find that trust is by experiencing it? Yeah. Right? It's like my daughter has anxiety.

She used to have crippling anxiety. She couldn't go anywhere or do anything. And it was that exposure therapy where I would be like, go walk into the store and buy it yourself. Like grocery store or whatever, you know. And I can't do that. you can go by yourself. And slowly over years, she's now, she does anything. She takes off. She drives. She failed her written driving test when she was in the height of her anxiety 16 times. And she passed her driving, actual driving test on the first go. And so she, you know, it was just the

exposure of doing those things. And you might be, she was fearful of everything. And this can be the same situation where you're fearful of social situations. You're fearful of the off plan. and you're fearful of all of that, well, then do it and then be aware of what's happening, mentally, what's happening physically? How's that working for you? What's the choice you'd rather make? But if you don't, you don't know what you don't know.

And if you don't have a reference for it, you like, that's problematic. So you have to do the thing to find out how you navigate the thing. Yeah. How you navigate it. And then to prove to yourself that you can navigate it. Because, I mean, this, you know, going out for these meals before and being,

social situations before, that gave you a result that you didn't like. That gave you a result that you didn't enjoy. That maybe you did go home, like, why did I do that? Why did I go there? Why did I take part in that? Where once you live these experiences a few times, okay, I ate that thing. I did that thing. Now what?

Like let me move forward from it. Let not me sit here. Like don't let me sit here and just, you know, ruminating and think about it and just go over it in my head, okay, this is what I learned from this experience. I can go and have one bite of dessert and move on. I can go and say no to the dessert and move on. And until you have done that a few times, you've worked through this, you've built that, built that experience, that bank of experiences. Yeah. Then you're, you're not going to, you know, believe it just yet. I'm wondering, I can't remember who wrote that comments about going out, but I wonder if

the old version of you, you just ate, you drank, you didn't. whatever and then you just felt like crap like that version of you get up and dance and feel fantastic and walk home being like oh my god that was such a fun night or did that version of you be like why did I eat this why'd I eat that oh I feel like this I feel like that right like do you know what I mean like what is the difference between that like because sometimes we just think oh that version went and she did she enjoyed the dessert did she actually dessert did she really enjoy that or did she enjoy the company but actually physically didn't feel well after eating like that, right? So that's sort of like, you know, but this is like you're trying to design the life that

you want to live. That's what this is about. How does that version of you and definitely enjoying all the yummy bites of bits that come with life, including the food, the social, the getting out. Like that's the part that you want to live your life. So much of our life has been taken up by trying to lose weight now that you've done that. You don't want it to be taken up by trying maintain your weight. You just want to know what you need to know, work on and work through the things you need to work through to get you to a place where you can trust it all. This is all about trust. Yeah, I think we've said, we've said no to ourselves for so long.

No, I can't do that. No, I can't eat this. No, I can't trust myself. No, I can't. No, I can't. No, I shouldn't. And now it's like, yes, I can. Yes, I can.

You know, I'm going to get to this point where I'm just going to say, yes, I can. Yes, I can go and not worry about being off plan. Yes, I can go and enjoy that. Yes, I can do those things. So I think we've like it's enough with just saying no I can't, no I shouldn't. And having that fear. Yeah. It's I think it's time to move like we just want to be there where we're saying yes,

I can and I'm going to do that. I'm going to because we when you know better, you do better. And I think we're all slowly realizing that we do know better. Yeah. You know, we might need to get hit over the head by two by four hundred times until we learn the lesson. But there's no way to learn it other than just being in it, doing it, experiencing it. And being, it's the awareness piece is huge.

You know what's working for you, what's not working for you. You know the choice that you want to make, right? Like we just need to prove it to ourselves and then trust ourselves that we know what we need. And speaking on that, we're talking about that tomorrow, actually. We're talking about that inner voice, that inner voice that is, you know, is it our friend? Is it our foe? And can we listen to it? And how do we change it?

How do we make it into a narrative that we need that we want? Yeah, what's the story you're telling yourself over and over? Yeah, that's it. Well, that sounds like fun. Yeah. I love a good self-reflection. Yeah, well, that's a good self-reflection around here. Well, thanks for, yeah, well, you don't need me next time.

Well, I do. I do. I did the rest of it. You know, I love it. I did the Q&A last night. It was so fun. I know. I did listen to it.

It was great. I love those Q&As. I do. Well, partially because I feel like I can really participate in them as a listener. So I do love them. But I love those, like, the questions that come up and just, even just the comments that open up so much more conversation.

I just, I love those late nights. Yeah. Same. All right. Drew is like telling us we need to go. So we're in a lunchtime. We can't piss now that Jody's gone. We can't piss off Drew.

That's right. You know. Not yet. Anyway. Not yet. Not yet. All right. Thanks, everyone.

Thanks for joining us. Have a fantastic day. And we will have a fantastic day. We'll see you next time. Next time. Thanks a good. Bye. Thank you.