The Mel Robbins Podcast - Renew Your Spirit: 5 Ways I’m Finding Hope & Strength Right Now

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

I’m not even going to call our conversation today an episode because it is so much bigger.I am here with a soul-stirring and inspiring message that’s coming from my heart to yours.When the world f...eels dark, you and I need to bring the light.I was moved to share a deeply personal message with you today about the power you hold to make a difference right now. I hope that when you hear my words, they will inspire you to find your strength and that they will renew your spirit.And just know if you’re reading this, I’m sending you my love, and I hope you feel my light and the protection of my prayers.Xo Mel In this episode: 00:36: Ever met someone like this?4:35: Sometimes the love you need will come from this source.6:50: It meant so much to me when Ernest said this.7:50: I have a deep connection to lighthouses, so this metaphor was perfect.11:35: When someone tells me this, I immediately feel better.13:45: Today’s conversation isn’t really a podcast episode because it’s way deeper.14:20: We can’t get so caught up in the darkness that we forget this.16:35: I love this, in particular, about lighthouses.17:40: What exactly is your “light”?20:20: When I’m feeling sad and overwhelmed, I make it a point to do this.25:50: Cultivate this practice, even if you don’t have one now.28:40: Let me tell you about the 10-5 Rule and why it works.31:15: You need to keep the right balance of this to protect your mental health.32:35: And please, reach out to these people because they need to hear from you.34:08: We have an opportunity to feel power, even in times like these. Want more resources? Go to my podcast page at melrobbins.com/podcast. Disclaimer

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's your friend Mel and welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. I am so glad that you are here because I have been wanting to talk to you for the last couple days and I have been traveling for work so I have not been able to get here to a microphone to talk to you, but I just have so much to share with you. And so thank you, thank you, thank you for spending the time with me. A couple days ago, we flew from Nashville to Chicago. And when we got to the airport, the gentleman who was picking us up at the airport
Starting point is 00:00:33 and driving us to the hotel was named Ernest. And when we got off the plane and found his car and he had the biggest smile and just radiated positive energy. You know people like this that it's just hard to be in a bad mood around someone like that. They fight you on it with their energy. It's almost like they're a Jedi knight, you know, with their positive life force energy is what I call it. And so he's standing there with a big old smile and even though this has been a really long stretch of work travel. And even though I have been
Starting point is 00:01:18 like you so overwhelmed and sad and horrified by the news that is dominating the headlines right now. There is something about his spirit that just lifted us all up. And so we're driving into Chicago and he's at the wheel and I'm in the back of the car and we're just chatting up a storm. And in addition to his positive energy, Ernest has one of those voices. These like, keep soulful, smooth voices. So smooth, it was as if it was a liquid butterscotch. And I'm just soaking up every word. And if that's not enough, he also spoke in poetry. The kind of person that can just
Starting point is 00:02:07 string together a sentence and you find yourself closing your eyes and just nodding along as he is dropping just one beautiful truth bomb after another. And all of a sudden I got this feeling inside And I thought, hmm, I wonder if Ernest is a minister. And so I said Ernest, any chance you're a minister? And he just, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, just started laughing like you got me, male, you got me, yes I'm a minister, yes I'm a minister. And then he went on to explain that in his opinion, the difference between a pastor and a minister
Starting point is 00:02:43 is that a pastor is somebody who is responsible for a church and for the congregation of the church, but a minister, a minister is a person who spreads light and spreads positive energy, who ministers by lifting people up. Now we were not talking about any kind of particular religion. We were just talking about spreading and light, positive energy, lifting people up. And so I said to Ernest, you know, Ernest, I am here in town because I have to give a speech tomorrow morning. And I believe that when I am standing on that stage and I'm
Starting point is 00:03:19 looking out into that audience, I am spreading light. I am showing people a different way to look at the situation that they're in or the things that they want in life. That I too am in the business of positive energy and lifting people up. And it would be an honor to have you come and to have you experience me doing what I do because I've been experiencing what you do. And he said, yes, he said yes. And it was one of those moments where I just love when you say to yourself, I am sitting right here with this person for a reason.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And as we got closer and closer to downtown Chicago, and as Ernest kept on ministering to the three of us in his car, as he was spreading his light and talking all kinds of positivity, I sat there and thought to myself, I am supposed to be sitting here. And he is supposed to be in the driver's seat and we are supposed to meet. It is just one of those moments. And I want to open you up to a really important idea that sometimes the light or the connection
Starting point is 00:04:32 or the support or the love that you need, it's not gonna come from the people you know. Rather, the universe will put a stranger in your path to give you exactly what you need in that moment even though you didn't know you needed it. And what I didn't know is I had gotten off that plane in Chicago feeling exhausted by my work schedule and feeling so heartbroken over the news right now. I didn't realize how much I needed a little light. And I want you to remain open to the fact
Starting point is 00:05:09 that there are going to be strangers that cross your path today, this week, this month, this year, that can give you the connection, the love, the light, the support, the help, whatever it is that you need without you even realizing it. And you are also that stranger for somebody else that you can, without even realizing that you're doing it because Ernest did not step in that driver's seat and go, I'm just going to lift these women up. He was just being earnest. He was just shining his light. And the interesting thing about strangers is think about this.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Absolutely everybody that you love was once a stranger to you. And all it takes to turn a stranger into a friend, or to somebody who supports you, or to the love of your life, is taking a moment to connect with the light in one another. And so Ernest did come and he was so cute. He arrived bright and early and I was so proud to have him there and we sat him right
Starting point is 00:06:16 up front in the audience of thousands of people next to our corporate client and he just soaked it in. And then when it was over, we had some time in what they called the back of the house behind the front of the house at a hotel. We were standing back there and I said, so earnest, what did you think? What did you think? And he said some of the most beautiful things to me. He said, you know, Mel, it was so amazing to sit there and watch you do what you do.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And there is no doubt that you are a minister. In fact, everybody, Mel, is a minister because everybody has the power to spread light and positive energy. Everybody has the power to lift people up. But as you were standing on that stage and you were pouring your heart into every single person there, did you notice? Thousands of people and every single person was quiet as a church mouse. They were reflecting. They were considering what you were saying. And I want you to know, Mel, it was so much more than positive energy because what you
Starting point is 00:07:19 do is you make a way out of no way. You are reminding people of their power. You're reminding them of what they really want out of life, that they don't want to be stuck, that they want to feel more. And then he said this, he said, Mel, do you know what you are? And I said, no, he said, you're a lighthouse. And when he said that word, Mel, do you know what you are? And I said, no. He said, you're a lighthouse. And when he said that word, lighthouse, it immediately brought me back to a really incredible childhood memory. I mean, lighthouse has hold a lot of importance for me. I grew up in Western Michigan in a tiny little town right
Starting point is 00:08:00 on the shores of Lake Michigan. And if you don't know the Great Lakes, if you're listening in one of the 194 countries where this show is syndicated around the world and you've never seen the Great Lakes, they're just like an ocean. Like you cannot see across them. They are huge, huge waves. They are enormous. And so I grew up in a tiny little town that was surrounded by lakes that all fed into the great lake called Lake Michigan. And one of my dad's favorite things to do on the weekends, if he wasn't on call and he didn't have to work, was to get up really early and jump in the boat and drive out from the little lake we lived on, through the channel into the bigger lake, Muskegon Lake, and then out the big channel,
Starting point is 00:08:47 Muskegon Lake, and out into the wide, open, and vast Lake Michigan. And what he loved to do is he loved to fish for steelhead. And I would often go with him. Now here's the thing. Being a little bit of a worry ward as a kid, I was definitely afraid that we would get out there to the big, open, fast ocean-like Lake Michigan, and we would be swept away.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Like, I had a really active imagination, so my dad would be having the time of his life with a cigar and his mouth, and he's got all kinds of lures in the water, and he's fish in the steelhead run. And my mind would be a spin. And what if the engine doesn't start? What if a storm rolls over? What if one of those big dark thunderstorms comes in and all of a sudden the wind picks up and the waves start going and the boat gets flipped over and dad and I find ourselves
Starting point is 00:09:40 lost at sea. And there would be times that my dad would try to start the engine up after we'd been out there for a while way off shore and it would go and then it wouldn't start wouldn't start and then I'd start to panic and my dad would be like would you calm down just calm down and then he would say Mel we are not going to get lost. Just look, and he'd turn around and point at the shoreline. And they're off in the distance. Was the lighthouse. And the lighthouse that was on the Michigan channel is a lighthouse called Muskegon South Purehead Lighthouse. And what my dad would say is he said, Mel, that lighthouse is always there. And that lighthouse is there so you don't get lost. See, it doesn't
Starting point is 00:10:25 matter how foggy it is or how dark it's going to get or if a storm blows in, we're going to be fine because the lighthouse has one job. The lighthouse is always shining its light so that it can bring you home. It lets you know that you're never alone and you're never lost. And when I would look at that lighthouse, even though it was kind of far away, I got to be honest with you, it made me feel a little safer. It made me feel like my dad and I were not alone out there in that big old, great lake, Lake Michigan, but that we were connected to somebody who could and who would help. And if you've ever been lost, have you ever had that experience where you've been lost, whether you're driving around and all of a sudden you have to pull over because you don't
Starting point is 00:11:13 know where you are, or maybe you're in a new city and you're walking around in circles and you can't find your way, or heck, I remember being a freshman in college and I was so lost at Dartmouth College, like I didn't know where my classroom was. So when you're feeling lost, it's really scary. But then there is that moment when either somebody stops and says, are you lost or you say to somebody else, excuse me, I'm a little lost and the person says to you, you're not lost.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I know exactly where you are. And I also know how to get where you're going. And that right there is such an amazing feeling to have someone say to you, you're not lost. I know exactly where you are. And I know how to get you where you want to go. And so today, that's exactly what I want to talk to you about. This feeling that I think is really universal right now, a feeling lost, especially when the world feels like it's very dark. And when you're feeling lost, how can you navigate this?
Starting point is 00:12:27 How can you move forward again? And I know that, you know, that's exactly how I felt this week, as I've been watching the news unfold, it feels like a huge, dark storm has blown in, that the fog is here, that we're spinning around, it's scary. And I don't know about you, but whenever I feel like things are really dark or I feel very lost and I'm not sure what to do,
Starting point is 00:12:56 I start to feel paralyzed. That's kind of my initial reaction. That I get stuck, I get angry, I feel uncertain. My energy starts to drain for me, I feel so sad, and I'm sharing that with you because if that's how you felt recently, I want you to know you're not alone in feeling that way. And it might not even be that you feel lost, maybe right now because of what's happening in your personal life or because you live in a part of the world that is in conflict and crisis, that you do feel like you're holding on for deal life, that you are trying not to drown. And I also want you to know if that's how you feel as you hear my voice or you're watching this video,
Starting point is 00:13:36 that you're not alone. There are so many people, unfortunately, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, that feel that way right now too. And so today, I'm thinking about our conversation not like this is a podcast episode. I'm thinking about our conversation as me sharing with you how I'm feeling. And what I really want to do, because I've been thinking a lot about this, especially since earnest and this metaphor of a lighthouse, is I And what I really want to do because I've been thinking a lot about this, especially since earnest and this metaphor of a lighthouse, is I want to speak to the situation that we're in right now.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And in particular, I'm going to try to shine a light, a light so bright that I hope it reaches you. Because we can't allow ourselves to get so caught up in the darkness that is in the world around us that we forget to love one another. We cannot forget to appreciate the small things or the moments that we have even when the world around us feels like it's spiraling in chaos. We can't forget to help someone in need. And we can't forget that we,
Starting point is 00:14:51 even if we're just watching this all unfold in the news, that we are just one step away from being the one who needs the help. And if you can hear my words right now or you can watch this on YouTube, I want you to consider something. Yes, you may feel deeply afraid and you may feel lost, but you're not lost. You have you. You're not alone. You're not by yourself.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You're with yourself. And there are so many people around the globe who care about you. And you're also not paralyzed. That's kind of our first response, right, when something scary happens that we disconnect from ourselves, we disconnect from everybody else, we start to hunker down, we feel stuck, we start to get paralyzed. I am here to shine a light on the fact that there are small things that you can do right now, first to weather the storm, and second to start to see, that you're not going to feel so stuck, that you're not going to feel so hopeless, but that you will feel reconnected to your strength. And you will feel empowered by some very simple things that you can do right now to help yourself and perhaps help somebody else who needs you. I am going to show up today and be a lighthouse and I'm going to shine a light so bright because
Starting point is 00:16:31 I want to illuminate a path forward for you that will help you navigate this moment. A lighthouse is not actually interested in who gets the light. A lighthouse is blinking in a rotation so that the light is there for all to see. It doesn't select or discriminate what ships get to see it. It shows its light for anyone within its reach. I love that. I absolutely love that because that brings me back to you and to this moment and to the awesome, like amazing power that you have. See, when I landed in Chicago, I saw the light inside of Ernest. He was just standing there beaming it for anybody who cared to be basking in it and that light lifted me up. anybody who cared to be basking in it and that light lifted me up. And then the next morning, earnest saw the light in me as I was just beaming it out for anybody in that audience who cared to
Starting point is 00:17:34 allow it to lighten the way. And you, you have a light inside of you. What is the light? The light is your humanity. It's your compassion. It's your ability to laugh, to love, to hug somebody, to listen, to care. It's what you feel in your heart. And that's why your heart is breaking right now. Your heart is breaking because you're seeing innocent people suffering due to war or natural disasters or senseless hatred and violence. And you know, I don't know about you, but when I watch the news, I have to remind myself because it's easy to forget this fact that these innocent people are victims, they are not their governments. And that's why so many people around the world need your light right now. And I'm going to talk to you about how you can tap into that light right after we take a quick break and hear a word from our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Stay with me, because I'm going to be waiting for you when we come back. It's your friend Mel and you and I are talking about how we can take care of ourselves and show up to this moment in life as a lighthouse, both for ourselves and for other people. And I'm also going to share with you some of the things that I am doing that are making me stay connected to my light and keeping me grounded and keeping me in a place where I am not getting sucked into this darkness. I am staying above it so that I can help and so that I can stay connected to my power. See, even when nothing seems to make sense, there's always something that you can do. And what you can do right now is to be a lighthouse for other people, to cast your light into this dark storm for anybody who needs it to see it. And what is that
Starting point is 00:19:40 even mean, Mel? Well, let me talk about that for a minute. First of all, whenever I feel really low, I find that the fastest way for me to lift my own spirits is to help somebody else. And one of the major ways that you can do this is find ways to volunteer, whether it's in your community or offering up support for some of the amazing relief organizations that are out there. Just find ways to be part of the force for good. And look, I know what you're already thinking. Mel, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:20:10 I am sad and scared and horrified, and I can barely get out of bed and I'm mainlining the news. You want me to help other people now? I can barely function myself. Well, here's what I have to say. Well, then helping someone else is exactly what you should do. If you can't help yourself, research has found over and over again that helping somebody else not only feels good, but it does you good. And there are a number of
Starting point is 00:20:37 reasons why. First of all, it distracts you from the sorrow, grief, fear, and worries that can become this echo chamber in your own brain that starts to make you feel isolated and paralyzed and stuck and full of despair. By supporting other people in need, there are so many interesting things that happen with your perspective. When you're supporting somebody else, you realize you have more power than you think. And I'm talking little stuff. You could run errands for somebody. You could work hotlines. You could check in on friends and family. By supporting somebody else in
Starting point is 00:21:15 need, you gain a new perspective about your own situation. And there's something magical that happens when you start giving back, because you realize that you do have more power than you think you do. When you sit alone and you tell yourself there's nothing that you can do, you will start to spiral, you will feel more depressed. And I know you know this is true. I mean, just think about the times that somebody has done something nice for you. In those moments when somebody else helps you, you feel seen, you feel
Starting point is 00:21:46 lifted up. And the second thing that I want you to do is to be soft with yourself right now. Because the world's suffering, it is impacting you too. In fact, Dr. Tamabryan has been featured on the last two episodes that we published has this saying that whatever is happening out there is happening in here too. And what she means by that is that you are absorbing the energy and the stress around you. Everybody on the planet right now is impacted by this. And even if you're not vibrating with a lot of stress, people around you are, they are
Starting point is 00:22:24 worried. They are watching the news. They may not be able to turn it off. They are worried about loved ones. They're worried about what might happen. And this energy is impacting you. And if you are watching the news, yeah, you can turn that off, but you can't turn it off in your body.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And so if you're having a hard time concentrating or falling asleep or procrastination has ticked up, where you feel like you're on edge or you're starting to slip into feeling like nothing matters in life is horrible, that is an example of how this is impacting you. And so it is critical that you take steps to take care of yourself right now because you deserve it and in order to lift other people up, you got to make sure that you start by lifting yourself up first. And so I thought a lot about this. How am I doing that for myself? And I came up with five things that I'm doing right now that are helping me to stop the overwhelm and stop the despair and to stay connected to my
Starting point is 00:23:27 light, to the power that I do have, and to a connection to something greater than this very scary moment. And I'm going to tell you what those five things are after a short break from our sponsors. And you better believe I'm going to be right here waiting for you when we come back. [♪ Music playing in background, and I'm so happy that you're here. I'm happy that we have each other, and I'm happy that you and I are gonna lock arms and we are gonna shine our lights bright. And here are the five things that I'm doing right now
Starting point is 00:24:15 that are making a real difference in my ability to stay grounded. And so the first thing is spiritual practices. I am a very spiritual person, but since this news began a week ago, I have really become intentional about making sure it is part of my daily and sometimes several times a daily thing that I'm doing. And you know that spiritual practices work. Like one of the things I'm doing right now is praying.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I'm praying for each and every single human being who has lost their lives or their loved ones. I'm praying for people who are in harm's way, who are fearing for their lives. I'm praying for those of you that aren't struggling right now with anxiety and fear and grief and I'm praying for compassion. I'm praying for healing and I'm praying for peace. And you want to know what else I'm praying for compassion. I'm praying for healing. And I'm praying for peace. And you want to know what else I'm praying for. I am praying for our collective light to shine brighter than this terrifying darkness that is rolled into the world right now. Since the beginning of time, spiritual practices have helped people through some of the most tragic experiences. So whether for you, that means prayer or meditation or journaling
Starting point is 00:25:28 or gathering with other people of a similar faith, or even for me, just taking a walk outside, getting outside, getting off my phone, taking a walk in the woods, or here's what I did this morning. I was driving down the road and I have a friend that I've talked about on this podcast that is a flower farmer. She's the owner of Flore Farm. And she has all these dally fields.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And I pulled over because I saw her working in one and I left my car running and I just silently walked through the rows in her flower field. And as I walked, I took in each individual flower. And I would stop and look at it. And I would look at the bumblebee that was laying there in the center, all drunk on pollen. And I got lost in the beauty of nature. And I'll tell you what, being able to connect to something greater than this scary moment that's going on in the world, it really helps me. It helps me to stay grounded, it helps me to become, and that helps me to show up in a very
Starting point is 00:26:42 different way during this moment. And if you're listening to my voice or you're watching this video and you're in a part of the world where you can't get outside, just not an option for you. I want you to try visualizing yourself outside in your favorite place or visualize yourself with people that you love. If you close your eyes and allow your imagination to take you there, it might just really help. The second thing that I'm doing is I am using the 10-5 rule. Now, this is something I do in my day to day life, but I have 10 x did at this moment.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And here's what the 10-5 rule is. It's a simple way to connect with people that you know or that you don't know. And every time I share this, I always get people that write in and say, well, this isn't the same for me to do where I live. If you're comfortable, try this. But it is really fantastic. You can use this in a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You can use this on a college campus. You can use this at work. You can use this on a sidewalk. You can use this at a stoplight. It's wonderful. And here's how it works. Whenever you're 10 feet away from another human being, just look them in the eyes and smile.
Starting point is 00:27:51 That's it. Look them in the eyes and smile. And try to hold the smile and your eye contact for three seconds or more. Because a funny thing happens when you do that. When you look at somebody else in the eyes and you smile, a big toothy smile, you are signaling to somebody else's mirror neurons in their brain that you are friendly, that you are a
Starting point is 00:28:13 safe connection, and somebody else's mirror neurons can't help, but then mirror your response. And so if you look at somebody in the eyes and they look back and you smile and you hold that smile for more than three seconds, you watch. They'll grin right back because they can't help it. We are wired for connection. Then when you get five feet away, smile again and say hello. And the reason why this 10-5 rule is so great is because it's a simple and instant way to connect with somebody. The fact is we are not strangers when we are all suffering around the globe. And we are all in this right now, even though we show it very, very differently from one another. And so the 5-10 rule is just a simple and fun way that you can both
Starting point is 00:29:06 reconnect with that light inside you and use it to connect with someone else because when you truly take a moment to see someone. And that's what I want us to do. I do not want us to turn away from one another because when we do that, we buy into the darkness. I want us to turn away from one another. Because when we do that, we buy into the darkness. I want us to turn toward one another. I want us to lead with our humanity to let the light in from one another again. The third thing that I am doing that is helping a lot is advice that I got from Dr. Tamama Bryant, where she says there's a big difference between staying informed and not inundating yourself with the news. Because how much time you spend watching the news does not equal how much you care.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You can care deeply about what's happening with other people and not watch the news at all. I personally do not watch or listen to the news. I read the news at all. I personally do not watch or listen to the news. I read the news why because I want to stay informed, but I want to protect my mental health. This is the way I can be soft with myself. Remember, because if I let my mental health tank and if I let my mood and my mindset and all of that go with it, I'm not going to be able to show up in this moment and navigate it in a different way. And so please try not to stress yourself out by staring at traumatic imagery to the extent
Starting point is 00:30:31 that you can. In fact, my husband and I have also required that all three of our kids delete TikTok, because the imagery on that platform right now is way too much for your nervous system and your heart to process. And so please, do not look at it. Focus on showing how much you care by your actions, rather than the content that you're consuming. It's gonna be way better for you, okay?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Next, this is the fourth thing that I'm doing that makes me feel a little bit better. I'm reaching out to people. And in particular, I am checking in on my Jewish and my Muslim friends. See, these recent events, they have sent shockwaves through both global communities. Please let your friends know that you care about them,
Starting point is 00:31:19 that you're thinking about them. Please let them know that they are not alone in this. And another thing that I love to do is that when I am reaching out to a friend of mine who is really going through something, whether it's this situation that we are witnessing right now or it's somebody that just lost a loved one or got its scary diagnosis or is dealing with something very traumatic, I always reach out and I check in and I tell them how much I love them and then I end it with this. You do not need to respond. I just wanted you to know that I'm here and you're not going to go through this alone. And the
Starting point is 00:31:55 reason why I love this is because when you reach out to somebody unexpectedly, it feels so good. I mean, think about the times when somebody texts you unexpectedly. You're like, oh my God, that's so nice of them. And when you send the text, you create that light inside somebody else. That's the first gift. The second gift is when you say you don't need to respond. Because if somebody's going through something very traumatic, they do not have the energy to check in with you. And so you give them this beautiful gift when you relieve them of the burden and the guilt of having to and not being able to. And finally, I have been thinking about this metaphor of a lighthouse over and over and over again. And I find it so empowering to think about the role
Starting point is 00:32:51 that you can play as an individual in this dark storm, that somehow thinking about shining that light inside of you in a 360 fashion for anyone around you to see or feel. What a gift that is to give other people. And by thinking about that metaphor, it allows me to rise out of the individual emotion or heaviness that I feel, so that I can take action and feel like I'm doing something. And the ways that I do that is, when I see despair, I respond with hope. When I see sorrow, I respond with love. I'm meeting agitation with kindness, and I'm inviting you to do the same. Do not get pulled into the darkness. As I said earlier, the words that Ernest said to me,
Starting point is 00:33:57 we cannot allow ourselves to get caught up in the darkness in the world and forget to love one another and help one another in need. Do what you can to help yourself and to help somebody else see the good in you and in them. And if you really don't know what to do, just smile at people. Just say hello. Just reach out to your friends. A little bit of goodness goes a very long way right now. And in case no one else tells you this today, I wanted to tell you that I love you and I believe in your ability to shine your light at this moment because it's a moment when the world needs it most. Oh, and one more thing. And no, this is not a blooper. This is the legal language. You know, what the lawyer's right and what I need to read to you. This podcast is presented
Starting point is 00:35:06 solely for educational and entertainment purposes. I'm just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist or other qualified professional. Got it? Good. I'll see you in the next episode. Stitcher.

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