The Mel Robbins Podcast - Stop Doubting Yourself: 5 Tips to Boost Your Confidence

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

Confidence is a skill, and today you are going to learn exactly how to build it.Mel is one of the leading experts on the topic of confidence and is tapped regularly by the world’s top brands to teach their leaders how to be more confident. And in today’s episode, Mel is giving you her step-by-step playbook, the same one that she teaches to leaders around the world, that you can use immediately.Mel is offering the guide to believing in yourself (for real this time) in 5 simple steps. If you have ever wanted to know how to increase your self-confidence and improve self-esteem, this is the episode for you. Whether you want to speak up at work, set boundaries, or stop doubting yourself,  you need to hear this.This is an encore episode with new and exciting insights from Mel at the top.For more resources, including links to the studies mentioned in the episode, click here for the podcast episode page.If you liked this episode, which was packed with coaching and simple tools to be more confident, you’ll love listening to this one next: How to Read Body Language to Get What You Want: 6 Simple Psychological Tricks to Be More ConfidentConnect with Mel: Get Mel’s new book, The Let Them TheoryWatch the episodes on YouTubeFollow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast InstagramMel's TikTok Sign up for Mel’s personal letter Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes Disclaimer

Hey, it's your friend Mel and welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. Have you ever watched someone walk into a room and you think to yourself, God, I wish I had that kind of confidence. I mean, there's just something about the way they hold themselves. Maybe it's the way they conduct themselves in a meeting. Maybe you see them and they're talking on stage or presenting something, or maybe it's a friend of yours. And they just seem to make one bold decision after another.

Nothing bothers them. Somebody criticizes them, rolls off their back. Maybe they jump out of a job and then they're starting a business. And you know what? I want to tell you something. These people, they are not special. Confidence isn't just something

that some people are born with, it is built over time. And look, I know that I probably am one of the most confident people that you have in your life. I didn't start out this way. I may have had some swagger, but it was a bunch of BS. There's a difference between being like loud on the outside and true grounded confidence on the inside. And one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about this is because I have been seeing

so many questions come in from listeners around the world about confidence. How do you gain it? How do you keep it? How do you build it back when life knocks you down? And the fact is, confidence is a skill. It's a skill that you can learn. It's a skill that you can build. It's a skill that you need and deserve in your life. And once you understand the simple science and research about how you build the skill of confidence, you got it. You can tap into it anytime, anywhere, any way that you want when you want it to show up in your life.

And today, I'm taking your questions and I'm going to teach you the science of confidence so you can learn the skill. Let's go. Hey, it's your friend Mel Robbins and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. I am so excited that you're here. I love this topic because I wasn't always this confident. I was super insecure. I was a bit of a liar. Just go right out there and say that and confident people do not lie. Had a lot of swagger, a lot of bolstering. That's not confidence. Narcissism, not confidence. True confidence is something you build from within. True confidence is a connection that you have to yourself and a belief in self.

It's not about arrogance. And we're going to unpack this today because absolutely anyone can build the skill of confidence. And I love teaching this. I love the science around it. I love the simple steps you can take. And so I'm going to share all of that with you today. And I also want to say, if you're brand new,

welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. And if somebody's shared this episode with you, do not take offense. Like, you know, don't be like, what, do they think I'm not confident? They think, what, what? We can all strengthen this skill. And what it means if somebody shared this with you

is that they really care about you and they care about your success and they want to see you stop torturing yourself and doubting yourself because they believe in you and it's time for you to believe in you and that's what confidence is about. And we're going to unpack it today. And one of the reasons why I wanted to do this today because I've been thinking about, okay, what could I drop as an episode this weekend that would really give you something to non that would be really useful that you could take into next week

that would make a big difference, not just like listen and entertain and pass the time, but what's worthy of spending your time on. And this is a topic that is worth your time. And so let's just cut to the chase. And I'm going to be super clear about this. Confidence is not something you're born with. It is not some magic trait that only a lucky few people have. Confidence is a skill. And just like any other skill, you can learn it, you can practice it, and you can master it. And it doesn't matter where you're starting from. It doesn't matter if you feel stuck right now or you're unsure. It doesn't matter by the way if you think

you're confident. Because even if you think you're confident, there is a level that's deeper that you can access that is that quiet, steely, oh my god, you kind of scare people confidence. That's when you really start to master it, when there's like a peace in the amount of power and connection you have with yourself and faith that you have in yourself. And so I don't care how you're showing up right now, whether life has knocked you down or you're listening because you've got a monster of a game to play. And you know your friend Mel Robbins,

I am a competitive MFer when it comes to business. I do not screw around. I am very intentional. You do not wanna be on the other side of a business negotiation with me because you will lose. That is how confident I am. And so this is a skill I'm constantly working on. So if you're looking to level up your game

or make more money, you my, are in the right place. Because you do those things not by bluster. You do those things by building steely confidence and faith and belief in yourself. That's how you do it. So here's what we're going to do. In today's conversation, I'm just going to break it all down for you, using questions from listeners around the world. And we're going to go through the exact steps that can take you from feeling uncertain,

or stuck, or insecure, or beating yourself up, or questioning, or all of the BS that a lack of confidence creates in your life, to starting to build this skill so you can tap into it and start taking risks and start believing in yourself. Start taking different actions. Start speaking up for yourself. Start making more money. Start swinging for bigger clients. How about the confidence to leave the relationship

that you know isn't right for you? How about them apples? I mean, that would be pretty cool, don't you think? How about the confidence to have some boundaries? How about the confidence to not take people's crap as much as you do? That'd be pretty awesome. I know it would be.

So how about we dig into this? And one more thing, if you're sitting here listening to this day and you're like, God, I'd like to ask Mel a question. Great, let's take the first step. MelRoberts.com slash podcast. Get in there and let's go. And speaking of going,

it's time for us to get going on this masterclass. And here's how I wanna start it. I wanna start it by giving some credit to one of your fellow listeners. Her name is Heather, and she is the one who submitted this question, and it inspired me to have this conversation with you today. Hey Mel, it's Heather. I'm curious if you would consider doing a podcast on confidence and actionable steps to gain confidence.

For instance, in the workplace when your role has expanded and currently are doing big things, but do not always feel confident or in line with the idea that you want and deserve to be there in that role. Love your podcast more than you'll ever know. Thank you. Heather, I absolutely love that you asked this question. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I love the topic of confidence. The very confident Mel Robbins that you asked this question. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love the topic of confidence. The very confident Mel Robbins that you see right now is not the woman I used to be. And I have spent years researching this topic and also teaching it. And so everything that I am going to share with you today is grounded in decades of research, the latest studies, and it all comes from a big body of work that I've published. One of the most popular courses on LinkedIn is

called the Science of Confidence and your friend Mel Robbins created it and teaches it for LinkedIn. There's a lot that I have to share about this that I can't wait for you to learn. So Heather, and you listening, when you have more confidence, you get paid more, you will have a better job, you will be more admired by people, you will be listened to with more intention, you'll have greater influence.

And confidence is a topic and a skill that I want absolutely everybody to learn. Because based on the research, confidence is for all of us. Anybody can learn the five simple tools that are grounded in the research in order to build greater confidence, in order to break through self-doubt. The more that you build confidence in your life,

the greater the ability to say no and not even be bothered by what other people are gonna feel, why? Because you realize you would rather be respected than be liked. And see this need to be liked or to look good is part of the reason why you doubt yourself all the time. I want you to bring that power back internally. That's what the skill of confidence does. So I think it kind of begs the question.

If confidence is something that we all want, why is it so hard to master? I'll tell you why. Because when it comes to the research around confidence, it is some of the most dry, boring, no offense to the confidence researchers and writers out there, but I'm talking if you have trouble sleeping, just print out a

study about confidence. That'll put you into deep REM sleep. It's also confusing. And even Google isn't much of a help on this topic. If you search how to be confident, you know what the top results one of them says? Be true to you. What the hell does that even mean? Be true to you. And honestly, be true to you. That is not what the research says. The problem and why it's hard for people to develop the skill of confidence is the research has not been boiled down into tactical information that you can apply to your day-to-day life. And that's where your friend Mel Robbins comes in. So here's your first assignment

on today's podcast, because you know, we're not just listening here. This is a doing podcast and we're going to make this tactical and relevant immediately. Assignment number one, I want you to listen a particular way. I want you to listen and think what's in it for me. And so let me ask you a question. If you had more confidence, like I could go and boom, you have more confidence than you've ever had in your entire life. How would your life be different?

How would your future be different? Now, Heather has already shared that she has this awesome promotion, which she clearly earned. I mean, businesses don't just give those out as charity. If a business has promoted or hired you, they believe in your ability to execute. But now she's freaking out. Now, when you think about confidence, how would more confidence help Heather's life be different?

Well, confidence would allow Heather to step into that role, right? And she would be able to lose the self-doubt in the imposter syndrome and the panicking. And she'd be able to act like the leader that the organization promoted her to be, right? Without all the like nervousness and crap going on in her head.

What about you? Let's get selfish. What would more confidence allow you to do that you're not currently doing? Would you be able to say no? Would you be better with boundaries? Are there more risks you would take? Is there a conversation you've been avoiding

with yourself or someone else? Would you be able to stand up for yourself, advocate more for yourself, ask for what you need? What about work? Would you be more visible? Would you speak able to stand up for yourself, advocate more for yourself, ask for what you need? What about work? Would you be more visible? Would you speak up more? All of that, that you just envisioned,

it's all within your reach. And so let's talk about something that Heather said. Heather said in her question that she doesn't quote, feel confident in the new role. I don't feel confident. And so I want to start by giving you a definition of confidence that will change your ability to build it as a skill. This definition of confidence I have been sharing for years, and I think I created it

based on the research because I haven't really seen it out there before. And this definition is going to surprise you because it's a definition of confidence that puts the research into action. See, here's the mistake that everybody makes. Heather made the mistake because she said that I don't quote feel confident. And I bet you're making this mistake with confidence too.

Based on the research, that's where we get it wrong. Confidence is not a feeling. Confidence is embodied in action. My definition of confidence is confidence is the willingness to try. I'm gonna say it again. Your new definition of confidence embodied by the research, confidence is the willingness to try.

Confidence is an action. That's what it is. And this phenomenon has been heavily researched by social psychologists. See, there's this positive feedback loop that happens when you're willing to try something before you feel ready. When you're willing to step into that leadership role

and push yourself out there and take risks and make mistakes and shove that self-doubt to the side. When you're willing to try, neuroscience research says that you create something called a confidence-competence loop. And let me explain this to you because there's a lot of common sense here, right? Every single time you try something new, you're either going to be really good at it or you're going to be terrible at it, right?

But you always learn something. But you have to try. So Heather is going to step into this new role. She's trying out a new role. She's either going to be really good at it or she's going to be miserable at it. But here's the thing. If you try something for the first time, you're either going to fail or succeed, but you always learn something.

And that's where this confidence, competence loop and the neuroscience research comes in. Because even when you try, when you learn a little something, you gain a little competency, right? So the second time, because of everything that you learned, the first time around, it gets a little bit easier. It gets a little bit better,

but it all begins with being willing to try, no matter where you're starting from. Because if you are the kind of person that's always willing to try, you will always grow and you will always learn. And the more that you try and the more that you learn, the less you doubt yourself, the less resistance that you have,

and bada-bing, bada-boom, all of a sudden you feel confident in this new role. All of a sudden you feel confident doing a backflip off a boat because you tried a thousand times and your belly flopped and you embarrassed yourself and you got a wedgie. And then what do you know? Because you were willing to keep trying, all of that competency gained of trying over and over and over and over again. It's how you gained mastery. Feeling confident is kind of, it's almost like the wrong way to say it because that's what you feel after you've done it

over and over and over again. But true confidence begins the moment you're willing to try, okay? And so I really think it's important. I can give you another example. The first time somebody handed me chopsticks, I had no idea how to use them. Was I nervous about picking them up

and I couldn't get like my fingers to twist in the way that you're supposed to and it was super embarrassed and they kept like flipping across the table and here's the thing, I didn't know how to use them. But isn't it common sense that there's no way I was going to learn how to use them if I wasn't willing to try? See, being confident and the skill of confidence is the difference between saying,

sure, hand me the chopsticks. I'd love to try. I'm willing to look like an idiot. I'm willing to be a beginner first versus going, can you get me a fork? I don't know how to use those. Do you see the difference? The skill begins with being willing to try.

You gotta remember what you're seeing is a person on the Today Show who has been working hard for 10 years, trying over and over and over and over and learning and failing. That's what you're witnessing. You're witnessing competency, but the skill is something different. The skill of confidence is trying.

Let me remind you of a fact. Everybody starts at zero, everyone. Whether you're trying to learn guitar or you're building a social media following, you're not going to feel confident. You're going to act in accordance with the research of confidence. You, my friend, are willing to try.

That's the secret. And it took me a long time to learn this secret for myself. And I'm going to tell you all about the old Mel Robbins before she knew this, when we come back. Welcome back. I'm Mel Robbins and you and I are talking about building the skill of confidence by being willing to try. And so I want to go back and tell you a story about the old Mel Robbins. A lot of you have seen my TEDx talks. So I have one of the most popular and most viewed TEDx talks in the world.

I think it's got almost 30 million views at this point. It's a TED talk called How to Stop Screwing Yourself Over. And if you watch my 21-minute long TED talk, you know what you're witnessing? You are witnessing a 21-minute long panic attack. That was the first official speech I had ever given in my entire life.

I was terrified of public speaking. I've always been terrified of public speaking. And most people are terrified of public speaking. When I was in elementary school, middle school, high school, college, law school, whatever I got called on in class, bright red, bright red. My mind would immediately go blank. The only job I got out of law school, whatever I got called on in class, bright red, bright red. My mind would immediately go blank. The only job I got out of law school

was working for legal aid as a public defender in New York City. And when I had to stand in court all day, talking to a judge and a bailiff and police officers and the prosecutor, I was so afraid of speaking out loud as a new attorney, I would get these monster neck rashes all over my neck and chest.

You know, the kind of rashes that people get when they're nervous or they've had too much to drink or they get an allergic reaction to food? That was Mel Robbins, the early years. You know how I dealt with that neck rash and that fear? I would wrap a scarf around my neck or I'd wear a turtleneck as an attempt to try to hide it. In fact, even when I became an on-air commentator for CNN,

I was part of their legal team in terms of providing commentary for CNN. I did that for four years. Incredible experience. Never done that before. Why was I willing to do that, knowing that half the time my cheeks would turn bright red, half the time I'd be worried that I might say something stupid. I'll tell you why. Because I understand the skill of confidence. You build it by being

willing to try. You have to start at zero. And nobody wants to start at zero. You want to step into this new role and think that you have it all figured out. Well, guess what? You don't, because you've never done this before. But if you're willing to try, if you're willing to make mistakes, if you're willing to understand that by showing up every day and trying and trying and learning and failing and falling on your face and dusting yourself off

and putting in the work, eventually the competency catches up. And what neuroscience says is what you're actually experiencing when you can stand on a stage and you don't have a neck rash that looks like you just got stung by a bee and you're about to go into anaphylactic shock. When you can do that, you wanna know why you can do that? got stung by a bee and you're about to go into anaphylactic shock.

When you can do that, you want to know why you can do that? It's because the number of times that you've tried have lowered the resistance in your own brain and body to doing it. And so it feels easier. It feels effortless. It's not that you, quote, feel more confident. It's that you've built up the competency so that you know how to do it

without even thinking about it. By being willing to try, by taking the actions over and over, you removed the doubt, you removed the resistance, you built up knowledge and competency. Isn't that cool? This is so important, I wanna give you another example. So I was on the way to the airport the other day

and I had this great Uber driver and we got to talking because it was kind of a long way to the airport. And I hear all about her life and how she immigrated to the US when she was two and was in an orphanage and came here from Poland. And we get to talking about dreams. And this woman, let me tell you, she is a survivor, she is a fighter, she could do anything she put her mind to.

And I said, so what's your big dream? And she said, I would love to have my own home. If I could buy my own home, a place to call mine, that would just be amazing. And I said, well, what's keeping you from working on it? She said, well, I just don't feel confident. I don't feel like I can do that. I doubt myself.

I doubt that I have enough money. And I said, I think you're making a big mistake. And she said, what do you mean? I said, well, you're sitting here talking about confidence as a feeling. What if I told you that confidence is an action? The definition of confidence is being willing to try, being willing to step towards something before you feel ready. The Uber went silent. You could almost hear the wheels in her

head turning. And all of a sudden she goes, that part you just said, confidence is an action, confidence is being willing to try. I never thought about it that way. That's incredible. And I said, well, what did you just get? She said, well, I've been sitting around doubting myself. I've been sitting around waiting to feel like it's gonna be a certain time

and that when I feel confident enough, then I'll start looking. Are you saying that I just need to start looking now? Are you saying, Mel, that confidence means I'm willing to check this out? I said, yes. I said, if you were confident, if you felt ready, what are the actions you would be taking?

What would you be trying to do? She said, well, I'd be going to open houses. I'd be looking at houses online. I might even walk into a bank, but right now I'm so full of doubt, I think they'd laugh at me. So I won't even try it. I said exactly You have to take the action first and the more actions you take

The more the feeling catches up, but it begins with the action I said in fact and I pulled out my phone and I typed into Google How do you buy a house with no money down? Hundreds of thousands of videos popped up on YouTube and I said said to her, I said, look, most of these are going to be complete crap. But there will be one, two, three, four videos in there that will give you the next right step. And if you keep taking the next right step, you will be taking the actions to create the dream that you have for yourself. That's how you do it. It was so freaking cool. And if you look at me and you're like,

my friend Mel, she's so successful, how did she get that way? It's the exact same thing. It's because I'm willing to try. I'm willing to start at zero. I'm willing to keep showing up over and over and over again and trying and trying despite my doubt, despite my fire engine red cheeks, despite my flush neck. And over time, by doing exactly

what I'm teaching you to do. I went from somebody who was terrified of public speaking to becoming one of the most talented, respected, and requested and booked public speakers in the entire world. And that's what's available to you today. Whether you want to buy that first house and you've been doubting yourself, or you want to get over your fear of public speaking, or there's something else that you believe confidence is going to help you do. The other thing I want wanna talk about really quickly is I know that what you think you're up against, Heather, and if you're struggling with confidence is that,

oh, imposter syndrome, I got imposter syndrome, because you haven't done this before. See, I see imposter syndrome as a really good thing, because when you feel like an imposter in a role, that's just a fancy way of saying you're trying something new. Starting today, if you're in the game of building confidence, everybody, you've got to open your arms.

You've got to reach out for that imposter syndrome because if you don't have imposter syndrome, you're not doing anything uncomfortable. If there's one thing I've learned in life after 54 years is that it's only by making yourself face things that are uncomfortable, that you're going to grow into the best version of yourself. If you always do the things that you're comfortable doing, you will never, ever, ever experience what might be possible,

because you're not pushing yourself. And so I don't want you to fear imposter syndrome. I want you to see it as a good thing. Oh, I feel like an imposter. Great. I'm trying something new. This is confidence building. Here we go.

And speaking of the myth that imposter syndrome is a bad thing. No, no, no, no, no, you're learning when it comes to building confidence. You got to embrace that imposter syndrome because it means you're trying and you're learning and you're gaining competency. And we love that around here. I'm going to teach you three other myths about confidence. I'm going to use a question from a listener named Alex to help us unpack it. But first, we're going to take a quick break for our sponsors because they helped me bring

this toolkit to you at zero cost. And then we're going to be right back with Alex's question and those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence.

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And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. And those three myths about confidence. we are talking confidence, the science and most importantly, five tools that you need in your life to build the skill of confidence. And we're about to jump into three myths related to confidence with a question from a listener named Alex. Hey Mel, it's Alex here. Can you talk about how to thrive around high achievers when you're not naturally an extrovert or someone with great confidence? I'm trying to succeed at university and this is something I find super challenging. Alex, great question.

And this allows us to talk about myth number one about confidence. And that myth is that confident people are the loudest and most extroverted in the room. So first things first, Alex, stop beating yourself up because you're a little bit more introverted. And what I can tell based on your question is that you do want to be more visible. You do want to have a breakthrough in the skill of confidence because you do want to be somebody that's contributing your ideas.

So I want to tell you the truth about confident people. Confident people are very often the quiet people in the room. There's a huge difference between confidence and bravado. You know, they're not the same thing. Confidence has nothing to do with swagger. It has nothing to do with how much you talk or blab on and on in class. If you're truly confident,

you don't have to prove anything to anybody because you know that confidence is simply being willing to try. It's not about being extroverted or introverted. Confidence is not a personality trait. Confidence is a skill that you can build. And so I want you to also be honest with yourself. Go back to being selfish in this episode

because you're talking about these high achievers and you're not naturally an extrovert. If you're selfish, Alex, how would the skill of confidence change the way you're showing up? Because if you answer, oh, I would talk more in class, oh, I would advocate more for my ideas, oh, I would raise my hand and I would put my name

in the ring for certain opportunities before stopping myself and thinking about it. Great, use the definition of confidence now to push yourself to try those things that you believe that more confidence would be having you do. That's how you're going to build competency in those things you're not doing now.

Let me tell you the second myth about confidence. See, a lot of people believe that confidence is built when you're winning. Not true, not true. The truth is that confidence is like steel. It's forged in the fire of your life. You don't create the skill of confidence when life is easy. Confidence, that reserve, that skill that you build, it's created in the moments that

are hard. Confidence requires you to try. It requires you to feel like an imposter. It requires you to start at zero. It requires you to do things that you've never done before. And if you're naturally more introverted, sometimes speaking in class can be as scary as skydiving. But that's okay, because you can try and you can fail and your cheeks can turn bright red.

And you know what? You're not going to die. It's going to be okay. Because you're willing to try and learn. And that's what's at the heart of this skill. It's curiosity. It's leaning forward. It's curiosity. It's leaning forward. It's trying. It's action. And here's the third myth about confidence. I often hear people say, I lost my confidence. Nope, nope, you didn't.

The truth is you cannot lose confidence. See, you're just blocked from the feeling of it because you stopped trying, which is the source of it because you stopped trying, which is the source of it. So let me give you an example. If you sit there and say, you know, oh, I must've lost some confidence along the way because now I'm around all these great achievers

and they're always talking in class and I feel like a complete idiot. No, no, you haven't lost anything because what's the definition of confidence? Confidence is the willingness to try. If you're around all these high achievers, it's because you belong there and it's because you're meant to grow.

And that resistance and pressure that you feel internally, do not aim that at yourself as if something's wrong with you. There's no difference between the high achievers and you, Alex. The only difference is your willingness to try something that's a little scary, to show up, to be seen, to share your ideas.

You know, there's this Ted talk that I absolutely love called, Who Are You Really? And it's by Dr. Brian Little. He's a professor over in the UK. And the entire 20 minute talk is all about the fact that he's profoundly introverted in his life. But because teaching matters to him, he has taught himself how to be profoundly extroverted when he's teaching a class.

Now it's wildly draining for him because he's an introvert. But I'm trying to tell you, you're not in a fixed place and confidence is a skill you can build if you're willing to try. And I can tell you are because it matters to you. Okay, I'm now gonna teach you the five simple tools that help you build this as a skill. Tool number one, take action.

This is obvious, I understand. We have the definition of confidence. Confidence is the willingness to try. You're not gonna change your life or build confidence by thinking about the things you need to do. You must take action. The number one tool for helping you take action in those moments where you feel imposter syndrome

or you feel nervous or you're embarrassed or you start to doubt yourself or you feel anxious, whatever the feeling is, screw the feeling. We gotta take action in those moments because remember we're building confidence. It's gonna require you to try. Just use my five second rule. I told you the whole story about how I created it,

the science behind it in the episode we released way back in the day called Motivation is Garbage. I'll link to that. But if you're brand new to the podcast, let me give you the shortcut. When you're in a situation where you start to doubt yourself, you're just gonna count backwards, five, four, three, two, one,

and then you physically move within five seconds. So here's how you can use it. Heather's talking about the fact that she wants to build confidence in this new role where she's been promoted. There are things that she needs to do as a new leader, but she doesn't have the competency yet. Instead of thinking about those things,

she can use the five second rule, five, four, three, two, one, to interrupt that self doubt. It will help you tap into your courage. That's it. That's all that it is for Alex, who is surrounded by all these high achievers. The next time she's sitting in a classroom and she has something that she wants to share,

instead of shrinking in her seat, she's gonna try. And the five second rule is gonna help. Five, four, three, two, one. And then she's going to shoot that hand up in the air because you know what, Alex has something to say. And even though she doesn't feel comfortable, even though her cheeks might go fire engine red, and even though she might stutter or stumble or have dry mouth or whatever might happen, five, four, three, two, 1, she is willing to try. Because here's something I want you to understand.

You can tap in the courage before you start having that feeling of assuredness. Courage is what you tap into. Confidence is what you're building over time. I'm gonna say that again. Courage comes first. Courage, five, four, three, two, one. You start counting backwards, man. That is an act of courage because you're going for it. Courage comes first. Confidence is what builds over time. How cool is that, right? I absolutely love this because what I'm ultimately

teaching you, and this again relates to all the research, is that there's two types of people out there. There are people who think about what they wanna do, and then there are people that find the courage to take action, and that's what I want for you. Because the fact is you have greatness inside you, and I want you to start tapping into it.

It's only through action that you unlock that power inside you and you become the person that you're meant to be. I mean, that's how I created the life that I have now. If I didn't learn how to five, four, three, two, one, push myself to try, I'd still be sleeping in a bed, staring at the ceiling, consumed with anxiety, feeling like I had ruined my life. That's how you change your life. You have to take action over and over and over again.

Five, four, three, two, one, stop thinking and start taking some risks. Start trying, put a bet on yourself. Let's frickin' go. Now let's do rule number two. Rule number two is if you just tremble in your boots, when you think about doing the things that you'd love to do, let's get selfish.

What is it that more confidence would have you be doing differently? When you think about those things, speaking up at work, launching your business, tackling your health issues, putting your online dating profile up and getting yourself back out there because you're ready and you're ready to have some fun again.

When you start thinking about how confidence would change your life, I guarantee you, you're still gonna feel a little nervous. So here's a second tool that's gonna help you try. You can use the power of objectivity. Create an alter ego. This can be fun, you know? We don't have to like white-knuckle this confidence thing. Let's have some fun with it of objectivity. Create an alter ego. This can be fun, you know?

We don't have to like white-knuckle this confidence thing. Let's have some fun with it, because there's a study out of Johns Hopkins that I love, and it's about letting go of self-doubt. And the study suggests that when you use an alter ego, or you create a vision of the future you, the person you, the person you want to become,

it gives you distance from the scaredy cat you who's never done this thing before. You know what I always ask myself? I go, well, what would the rock do in this situation? I just loved Dwayne Johnson, the rock. I constantly use him when it comes to confidence. What would the rock do in this moment? And I always get an answer and it feels less personal. You can use the rock, you can use me.

What would Mel do if you're feeling unsure and you wanna tap into the confidence that you kind of pick up on for me? And this also taps into behavioral activation therapy. Decades of research show that when you start acting like the person you wanna become in the future now, in your present life, it's one of the fastest ways for you to change your mindset,

for you to create new habits. Why? Because when you start acting like the person you want to become, you start acting like that person today, to become. You start acting like that person today. What are you doing? You're trying. You're trying to act like the future you would act.

So let's go back to our first question, Heather. When she acts like the Heather two years from now, who's now gotten another promotion because she just slayed it in this role, the Heather today is trying to be the Heather she wants to become. Isn't that cool? Alex sitting in the classroom surrounded

by all these high achievers. When she acts like the Alex she wants to be two years from now, who's earned her doctorate, who is able to express her ideas. When she acts like that version of herself, she's trying. How cool is this? It all just ladders right back to the research. That's why you can trust what I'm telling you.

Another tool that you can use to build the skill of confidence is prepare. Because the more that you practice something, the more you're trying, and the more competent you're going to be. So if you are nervous and you can't shake the nerves, double down on preparing. That's right, do rehearsals, run through it.

Why? Because every time you rehearse something, you're trying it and it gives your mind and your nervous system the ability to lower the stress because your mind and your nervous system, the ability to lower the stress because your mind and your nervous system have prepared so you know what's coming. See, practice doesn't make perfect, practice prepares you. And what's one other thing about practice?

What's the first thing that you learned about confidence? Again, I come back to the definition, it's the willingness to try. That's how you put the definition into life, by practicing, preparing for something, practicing something over and over and over, whether you're, you know, like the Williams sisters, who literally stood there and hit balls and hit balls

and hit balls and hit balls and hit balls before they were even allowed to enter a tournament. What were they doing? They're building the skill of confidence. You want to be confident? Prove it by preparing. I use this all the time. I laugh like, you know, you see me get in front of a YouTube camera

or you see me walk onto a stage or you listen to one of my audiobooks, you're like, how do you do that? I've prepared. I mean, just think back into your own life. Think about those moments in high school or college where you weren't prepared for the test. How nervous were you? You were shaking in your boots.

You couldn't even concentrate. You knew walking into the test that you were screwed. Now think about a moment when you actually studied, which is just you practicing. You feel calmer, more assured. Why? Because you were willing to try by sitting in the stacks, in the library instead of going out.

And that's what I'm talking about. This is something you build. Let me tell you about tool number four. I love this. This is a mindset reframe because you got the five second rule. You've got the power of objectivity, what would Mel or The Rock do?

You've got preparation. And now let me give you a mindset trick. I love this. I tell myself all the time why it's worth trying. Why is it worth trying something if I'm only gonna fail? Why is it worth going for it if I can't make my dreams come true? I'll tell you why.

Because everything that you do in life is preparing you for something that hasn't happened yet. What did I tell you about confidence? Confidence is not something you build when you're winning. I think oftentimes when we're winning, what gets built is arrogance and bravado. And we forget what went into winning at something in the first place.

True confidence, the skill of confidence, it's forged in fire. I mean, I've failed more times than I have time to tell you. You guys know that a decade ago, talk about failure, 800 grand in debt, unemployed, drinking my way through my problems, and all of that heartbreak and headache and breakdown in my life, which was horrendous to go through,

it led me to the five second rule. If there was no debt, there was no drinking, there was no heartache, there would be no five second rule. When I was a talk show host, here I was taping a talk show at CBS broadcast center here in New York City. It was a dream of mine to be able to have a daytime talk show. It gets canceled.

It was leading me somewhere. Where? To this podcast, which is my most favorite thing that I've ever done in my career. I choose not to stay in a place of self doubt. I choose not to wallow in failure because I know that life is always preparing you for something and I know that your greatest failures,

your biggest heartbreaks, they always preparing you for something. And I know that your greatest failures, your biggest heartbreaks, they always teach you the most important lessons in life. And I keep getting questions from you guys, oh, oh my God, you're so confident. You keep reinventing yourself, you keep trying new things like this podcast. What is it inside you, Mel? What is it inside me that makes me take all these risks,

that makes me constantly try new things, that makes me willing to fail to do something embarrassing or even disastrous? I'll tell you what it is. I want to get as much out of this life as I possibly can. And if you look at the math, I'm halfway through it. And it scares me to think that I could be on my deathbed and look back on my life and say,

I wish I had had the confidence to try that. I do not want to die and have regrets. And so while I'm here, while I'm breathing, while I'm able to, I am going to follow my curiosity. I am going to follow my heart. I am going to try new things. I am going to do absolutely everything that I can do to grow, to feel, to learn.

And that's going to require me to take risks. That's going to require me to take risks. That's going to require me to fuck up things. That's going to require me to look stupid. And I'm willing to do that because I know on the other side of the biggest heartbreaks of your life are the most amazing, heartfelt moments. I know that in the middle of every failure that I experience, and boy, I experience them,

oftentimes of my own doing, every single failure has, honest to God, equipped me with the lessons and the skill or the wisdom that I needed to be able to do something even cooler down the line. And I can prove it to you. Just look back on one of the scariest moments of your life. One of the biggest things that you just blew.

I bet you can tell me that that horrible thing that happened, that really hard thing that in the moment you're like, why is this happening to me? That right now, no matter what your life looks like, you can sit here and you know exactly what you learned from it. You know that you would not be the person you are today had it not been for that thing that you experienced, that you survived, that you learned from.

And so what drives me is just wanting to experience as much as I can from this one life that I have. And it's not all going to be a joyride. And so I'm willing to take the risk. I'm willing to try. I'm willing to look stupid. And I'm willing to do it because I think the payoff that you get, it's worth it. It's so worth it. So this moment is

preparing me for something that hasn't happened yet. And that reframe, what it does is it helps me put failure and heartbreak and all the hard shit in life into a box that is something that stays by my side as I move forward instead of a wall or a block or an obstacle that stops me from continuing to move forward because that's how you move forward. You continue to try. And the final tool,

when it comes to building the skill of confidence is you have to focus on you because nobody's coming. Like nobody's going to try for you. Nobody is going to be there to motivate you to try. Nobody's going to be there to give you the pep talk. I'm here twice a week. It really is my mission that our relationship through this podcast is one where you feel empowered and encouraged and you're reminded of who you are. That this is like a little reset, a pep talk, that you get the tools and the encouragement

and the high five that you need. But ultimately, it's up to you. And you got to learn how to stop looking at the world around you and what everybody and their mother is doing. And you got to look right back in the mirror because you are the one person that you're going to spend your whole life with. And it's time that you start to focus on that person and getting into a better relationship with that person called you.

And that brings me to a question from one of our listeners named Sky. Hey Mel, it's Sky here. I would really love for you to talk about on your podcast about self-confidence and the relationship among my generation, which is Generation Z, along with younger generations and honestly everyone on how social media and technology in general can kind of get in the way of your own personal self-growth. I recently went through a rough time and decided to remove all social media because I just wasn't in

the place to be on it. Anyways Mel, I love your podcast. It's what got me through this rough time. Thank you for all you do for me and your listeners. You rock Mel and everyone be kind to yourself. Oh Skye, I love how you ended that question. Everybody be kind to yourself. Let's take that I love how you ended that question. Everybody be kind to yourself. Let's take that because it's true, Sky. So first things, I just want to say, Sky, really proud of you. I'm really proud of you for having the self-awareness to realize that your own habits around social media were impacting you negatively. You did something about it. And you also notice that taking positive action

based on your self-awareness, I bet it started to build a little bit of confidence back. Right? Right? Absolutely. So I wanna say something about social media, everybody. Social media is not good or bad. I'm gonna say it again. Social media is not good or bad. I'm gonna say it again, social media is not good or bad. I think how we use it is terrible.

Most of us are complete idiots when it comes to social media because we give our number one commodity mindlessly away. What is our number one commodity? Our attention. When's the last time you've curated intentionally based on your goals and your dreams? When is the last time that you curated the accounts that you follow?

If you wanna have a massive breakthrough in happiness, in confidence, in your goals, in your mindset, in your mental health. Let me tell you something, delete every account that you follow. Write out what your goals are, how you want to feel, and then curate a list of accounts that you follow based on their alignment with the way that you want to feel and the things that you want to accomplish in your life. I say that most of us are complete idiots about social media because we follow stuff

and we give our attention to content that makes us feel like crap. And so you're doing that to yourself. If you were to delete all the accounts, the celebrities, the mind to delete all the accounts, the celebrities, the mindless crap, the memes, the supermodels that are crazy thin, that make you feel like shit about yourself,

the people that are driving Lambos that make you think that you're a loser. The only thing you'd be missing out if you delete all of those is the self-doubt, the self-sabotage, the self-criticism, and the loser mentality that that shit creates in your mind. A lot of times, what happens when it comes to confidence is that the stuff that you're allowing into your brain

is decreasing your willingness to try because it's making you feel like you're a loser compared to everything that you see, which, by the way, is fake, and that you feel bad at the end of the day because you blew three hours mindlessly looking at crap when you got big dreams and goals to fulfill for yourself. You think Beyonce, who has now won more Grammys than anybody else on the planet, you think

she wastes three hours a day on social media? I don't think so. Do you think the accounts that she follows are for her goals and her dreams and for her mental health and confidence or against them? Just ask yourself that. And so number one, you got to focus on you. And that means getting serious about what you let into your mind. And so take away now, like delete who you follow. If I make you feel bad, do not follow me on social media. Don't do it. Only follow people and accounts and content

that help you, that inspire you, that lift you up, that entertain you, that make you feel good. You're giving them your attention. They're making money off your attention. Please take it seriously. And here's one more thing. Think about what you put out. Does what you post create self-doubt?

Or are you willing to try using social media in a way where you can be yourself, where you don't need the filter, you don't need the perfect photo, you don't need to worry about getting the right thing up so that people saw that you were at the party and the right look and the this, that and the other, and you were so worried about it, you're in the bathroom posting,

and you don't even enjoy the party. Are you willing to just be you? Because so much of the self doubt that we all feel is because we spend so much of our time and energy and attention focusing on things that don't matter. And so I'm not surprised, Sky, that getting off social media helped because you realize the input was making you doubt yourself.

You realize that you were wasting time and you realized that input was making you doubt yourself. You realized that you were wasting time, and you realized that there was some crazy power that came back to you when you were willing to try a different way. And so again, I don't think that social media is good or bad. I think how we use it is terrible. And you can use it for good. And I just explained that if you are willing to try and get very serious about your goals

and how you wanna feel, social media can be a huge, huge additive in helping you achieve those things. Because you'll see examples of people that are also trying. You'll see the rock or other people that inspire you, that will inspire you to try bigger things. You'll see positive accounts that remind you that yes, you are bigger than this moment,

that this moment is leading you somewhere and you have within you, not only the willingness to try, but you have the willingness to face absolutely anything in your life. And you have the ability to take action, which is what changes everything. Confidence is your birthright. It is a skill that you build. It is a habit that you keep. It does for all of us. And you are going to fall, you are going to fail, you are going to have dark moments,

you are going to feel lost. And what I want you to know is if you are willing to get up every single day and dust yourself off and learn the lesson and tell yourself that every day you're getting a little bit better and you are the kind of person that knows that eventually this is leading you where you're meant to go and you're just going to get up and you're going to try again and you're going

to do that thing. You my friend are not only going to be practicing and building confidence, you are going to feel it too. In case nobody else tells you, I'm gonna tell you that I love you. I believe in you. And I believe in your ability to try the things that scare it out of you. And I believe in your ability to tap into the power

inside you in this one extraordinary, ordinary life that you have and make it everything that you want it to be because you deserve that. All right, I love you. I'll talk to you in a few days. Okay, here we go. Oh, are you ready? Okay, let's have some fun. And it's like, oh, like, hold on a second. It's like, and that's what we're going to talk about next. Wait, what is it? Yeah. Okay.

Gotcha. Wait, hold on. Oh, gotcha. Okay. I got sorry. And the and the hold on a second. Okay. Fabulous.

Oh, and one more thing. And no, this is not a blooper. This is the legal language, you know, what the lawyers write and what I need to read to you. This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. I'm just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist or other qualified professional. Got it? Good.

I'll see you in the next episode. Sticher.