The Mel Robbins Podcast - Trust Your Gut: How to Make a Hard Decision

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

In today’s episode, Mel will help you make any decision that you’re facing.Today, she is giving you a masterclass in decision making—the psychology, the science, and the step-by-step framework s...he personally uses to stop spinning, start moving, and trust your gut. If you're stuck in indecision, overthinking, or afraid of making the wrong choice—this episode is for you. You’ll learn how to: -Trust your intuition (yes, it’s real—and it’s backed by science) -Stop second-guessing yourself -Know when to go with your gut vs. when to slow down and make a plan -Navigate difficult decisions that affect other people (like calling off a wedding or leaving a job) -Handle the emotional aftermath of hard choices -Build the confidence to make any decision—even the scary ones This episode is packed with the tools, insights, and clarity you need to stop avoiding your choices and start creating the life you actually want. You are one decision away from a different life. And chances are you already know exactly what to do, you’re just too afraid to do it. This episode will teach you how to trust your gut and give you the courage to make the hard decision you know deep down you have to make. For more resources, click here for the podcast episode. If you liked this episode, and you’ll love listening to this one next: How To Handle Difficult People & Take Back Your Peace and PowerConnect with Mel:  Get Mel’s #1 bestselling book, The Let Them TheoryWatch the episodes on YouTubeFollow Mel on Instagram The Mel Robbins Podcast InstagramMel's TikTok Sign up for Mel’s personal letter Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes ad-freeDisclaimer

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, it's your friend Mel and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. Oh, I'm so glad you are here because today you and I have a great thing to talk about. We're going to talk about the power of your decisions. And you made a great decision to be here right now. Because if you're tired of overthinking everything or doubting yourself or second guessing every move, if you've ever wanted to learn everything or doubting yourself or second guessing every move, if you've ever wanted to learn how to trust your gut and your intuition, you're in the right place right now.
Starting point is 00:00:32 See, I believe you're one decision away from a different life. And we're gonna talk about how to leverage the power of your decisions to create a better life. See, today, I am probably one of the most decisive people you'll ever meet, but I wasn't always this way. The old Mel Robbins, I used to overthink everything. I would second guess myself all the time.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And even when I knew in my gut what I should do, you know those moments when you just know, I would always second guess myself or I just wouldn't listen to it. See, I've learned how to be confident as a decision maker. It's a skill and it's a skill that I'm gonna help you learn today. So whether you're struggling with a decision
Starting point is 00:01:13 that's pretty big right now, whether you're thinking about ending a relationship or changing careers, or maybe there's something smaller, you're chronically giving up on yourself because you can never make the decision to go to the gym or you're constantly hitting the snooze button, which is also a decision, by the way. Whatever decision it is that you need the courage to make, today I'm going to give you the same simple framework that I use,
Starting point is 00:01:39 especially when I feel conflicted about the decision or I can't seem to make it. See, we're gonna talk about a number of things today. We're gonna talk about intuition, what it is, how it works. The science is so fascinating. We're also gonna talk about those moments that are different between when you gotta go with your gut versus when do you need to pause and think through how to deal with the decision,
Starting point is 00:02:00 especially in those moments when you feel so conflicted. And most importantly today, you're gonna learn how to trust yourself. Our conversation could change the trajectory of your life. Because I'm gonna prove to you, you already know exactly what you should be doing. You've just forgotten how to trust yourself, make the decision, and actually do it. Hey, it's your friend Mel, and welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. I am so excited for the topic today. I'm so excited that you're here with me.
Starting point is 00:02:42 First of all, it's always such an honor to spend time with you and to be together. And if you're a new listener, I just wanted to take a moment and personally welcome you to the Mel Robbins Podcast family. I am so glad you're here. Because you made the time to listen to this particular episode about decision-making and intuition,
Starting point is 00:03:00 here's what I know about you. I know you're the type of person who not only values your time, but you're also interested in learning how to trust yourself, how to trust your intuition, and how to be more decisive and confident in the decisions that you're making every single day. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And if you're listening to this because somebody sent this to you, here's what I wanna point out to you. First of all, I think it's really cool that somebody sent this to you, here's what I want to point out to you. First of all, I think it's really cool that somebody sent this to you, because it probably means that you have a big decision that you need to make, and maybe you're grappling with it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Or maybe you're just the kind of person that over thinks everything and you're sick of it, and you'd love to be more confident and decisive in your life. Well, that's exactly what you're going to get by listening to this or watching this episode today. You're gonna learn about the science of decision-making. You're gonna learn about intuition.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You're gonna feel and become more decisive. I want that for you. I love that people in your life care about you enough to send this to you. That is so cool. Because today I'm gonna teach you a very simple framework that I had to develop for myself in order to stop being so damn indecisive.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I know, I know, today I'm probably one of the most decisive people you'll ever meet. But I've learned that as a skill. I've had to learn how to trust my gut full stop. I wasn't always this way. I mean, being decisive, learning how to trust your intuition, it's a skill. And today I'm going to teach. I mean, being decisive, learning how to trust your intuition, it's a skill. And today, I'm going to teach you the tricks, the tools, the frameworks that I've used in order to become more confident in my decisions.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I want to preview for you what we're going to cover today, because there are four specific topics that I've broken this into that are going to truly help you learn how to trust your gut and become more decisive. So first, we're gonna cover the topic of intuition. What is it? How does it work? Why should you trust it? And honestly, I love this topic because the science here is fascinating. And it's also going to help you trust
Starting point is 00:05:03 what your gut and intuition is saying when you understand how it works. Second topic we're going to cover is understanding the difference between moments where make the gut decision, follow your intuition, don't even second guess it, versus those moments where you should pause and think through the pros and the cons and the implications of a decision before you just make it. The third topic we're going to cover is moments where you have a decision to make, but you feel conflicted. I'm talking breakups, leaving jobs, telling the truth,
Starting point is 00:05:37 owning up to what you've done wrong. Talk about conflicted. Oh my gosh. For those moments in life, you need a framework that anchors you and holds your hand and helps you unlock the courage that you're gonna need in order to do the right thing and follow through with the decision that you know you need to make. And finally, I'm gonna teach you
Starting point is 00:05:59 one of the most important things I've ever learned. There are no bad decisions when you understand the power of the decisions that you make. See, part of making a decision is trusting your ability to handle whatever comes with it. That's why I believe you're one decision away from a better life. Because a decision turns your life in a different direction. And you know this, you felt the power that a single decision can make in your life. In fact, I want you to think back
Starting point is 00:06:35 to some of the decisions that you've made in your life that changed your life and pointed you in a whole new direction. I mean, maybe you decided to go to college far away from where you grew up, and that experience completely changed who you are. It changed perhaps where you lived for the rest of your life. That happened to me.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Maybe going to one party on a random Thursday, your gut just said, I should just get out of the house and go. You walked in the door, you met the love of your life. That's a decision love of your life. That's a decision that changed your life. Maybe quitting that job that used to drain you. Quitting it, that decision led you to find your dream career. You wouldn't be there without quitting that other job. Maybe going gluten-free or giving up
Starting point is 00:07:16 alcohol or quitting your vaping habit completely changed your health. I mean every single day, just stop and think about this, you make thousands of decisions. So do I. Some studies estimate that you make up to 35,000 of them. That's kind of incredible, isn't it? Just consider one decision that you make today has the potential to change the rest of your life. But when you don't know how to trust yourself, here's what happens. You question every decision, and that can make you stay stuck in the same patterns,
Starting point is 00:07:52 in the same place, and around the same types of people for decades. I mean, you're literally putting the potential for your life, that beautiful future that you want to build for yourself on hold when you question the that you want to build for yourself on hold when you question the decisions you need to make. So before you and I jump into the four things that you're going to learn today about intuition and the difference between thinking through a decision and going with your gut and what
Starting point is 00:08:16 to do when you feel conflicted, I want you to take a moment and I want you to get selfish. You're listening to this for a reason. So think about a decision that you may be grappling with right now. Go ahead, just think about it. What's a decision that you're overthinking or that you're avoiding or that you're questioning? Maybe it's whether you should move out of your apartment with your roommates and live on your own for the very first time. Or maybe you're questioning whether or not
Starting point is 00:08:52 you should divorce your spouse of 20 plus years. Maybe you're wondering if now's the time to get a pet now that the kids have moved out of the house, but do you want to be tied down? Is that what you really want? I don't know. Are you questioning whether you should go back to grad school to become a therapist or a nurse because that's what you've always wanted to do? Or maybe you've been thinking
Starting point is 00:09:12 about a decision. You really want to put yourself out there in a bigger way by becoming an influencer or starting a YouTube channel. Or maybe you want to be using social media, not for your personal life, but to market your business. But when you really think about putting yourself out there, you're like, ah, I don't know. You just start to doubt yourself. And next thing you know, you're not doing anything. Really think about this. What's a decision that you've been really considering and thinking about and questioning and maybe putting off? Are you thinking about moving? Maybe you're frustrated and so you wanna get more involved
Starting point is 00:09:52 in politics or just be more vocal about your opinion. Have you been thinking about reaching out to someone in your family that you're kind of estranged from or angry with and you've been putting it off? That's a decision to put it off or to pick up the phone. Just really hold on to that. Because as you and I go through each of the four things that we're gonna talk about today,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I want you to hold on to this decision and use what you're learning to help you be decisive. And here's the thing about this topic. I'm so fired up to talk about this, and I'm so excited that you're interested in this because learning how to trust yourself, learning how to become more decisive, learning how to assure yourself that no matter what decision that you make, if you have the courage to make a decision, you're gonna be okay? Holy cow, this is the key to everything because every decision you make
Starting point is 00:10:50 is like this little fork in the road where you get to choose, am I staying the same or am I gonna lead myself to a better future? I mean, remember your friend Mel Robbins says, nobody's coming. Every single decision opens the door to a different possibility.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And I want you to really think about the power of every decision you make. I mean, every day you decide, am I going to wake up an hour earlier like I said I would and get myself to the gym? Or not? Should I have that cookie at work or not? What movie should I watch tonight? What should I have for dinner? What outfit should I wear to work? What shoes? Now look, it may seem silly. You're like, oh, for God's sake, Mel, come on. It's not silly at all. Everything, I mean everything about where
Starting point is 00:11:33 you are in your life right now, every aspect of your life is in large part a result of your past decisions. And more importantly, this is what I want you to really consider. Who you're going to be in the future. Every aspect of who you become, from how much money you have, to what your relationships are like, to what your friend groups are like, to what your health is like, how you spend your days, is 100% a result of the decisions you make today. That's how powerful your decisions are.
Starting point is 00:12:03 If you want to be the kind of person that's healthy, you need to make decisions that a healthy person makes. If you want to be the kind of person who has a lot of money, starting today, you got to make the kind of decisions that a person who's financially responsible makes. If you want to be the kind of person that owns their own business or has a better friend group
Starting point is 00:12:22 or sells their art, starting today, you through the power of your decisions can become that person. Every single choice you make has power. I just love this topic. But here's the thing though, right now you're probably like I used to be. You're not even aware of the decisions that you're making.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You're just sort of like on autopilot. That's how I was. I was making decisions without even understanding how your brain and your body and your nervous system processes the options that are in front of you all day long. And if you're on autopilot, like I used to be, oh, hit the snooze button, just shove this in my mouth,
Starting point is 00:13:00 just go to work and complain about my job. Oh my gosh, what happens is your decisions just run on repeat and then past decisions dictate your present and future. I'm gonna give you an example. Let's say deep in your gut, you've been saying, I gotta quit vaping. I've just got to quit vaping.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Every day, all day long, you actually have a decision to make. Are you gonna just throw that vape out and all the cartridges and go cold turkey? Or are you going to say to yourself, well, you know, I've tried to quit before and it's never really worked. And so then you make a decision,
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm just gonna reach for the vape again and take a puff and I'll do that tomorrow. That's a decision. Anybody who's gotten sober or ended a relationship or quit a job or turned their life around will tell you that one decision will change your life. That's what we're talking about today. Aren't you tired of holding yourself back? Aren't you tired of doubting yourself? Don't you want to be more decisive? Isn't it exhausting to
Starting point is 00:14:01 constantly question yourself? Don't you want to trust your intuition and your gut and know that no matter what, you're going to be okay? Of course you do. That's why you're listening to this right now. And so congratulations, because you've already proven you can make great decisions. You press play. You made a decision to find the time to be here today
Starting point is 00:14:21 to learn more about how to be more decisive. That's so freaking cool. So whatever it is that you've been putting off or questioning, just keep it front and center as we go step by step through the four things that I'm going to teach you today. And I'm going to share a little bit with you just quickly. I have a decision that I'm noodling right now. And it's a big decision about something related to my business. It seems like a great opportunity, but I don't know that I wanna do the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So I'm right there with you. I've got this thing, I'm at a fork in the road. There are pros, there are cons. I'm questioning, I'm doubting, I'm overthinking. And so I'm gonna be using this framework too. And I want you to keep your decision right in mind. Be selfish as hell today, okay? Are you breaking up?
Starting point is 00:15:10 Are you putting yourself back out there? Are you moving? Are you signing up for that art class? Are you changing your major? Are you gonna finally have that conversation? Are you gonna dust off your resume and actually do what you said you were gonna do? Are you to go find the funding for your... What are you doing? Keep it front and center because you and I are going to walk through a step-by-step approach
Starting point is 00:15:35 that is going to move your life forward and put an end to the standstill that you've trapped yourself in. All right. So let's talk about intuition. For a long time, I didn't actually understand the physiology, the neurology, the science of how your mind, body, nervous system is all connected and how it is your intuition. It's like this inner compass, this intelligent design that you were born with that is in place in your body
Starting point is 00:16:07 and that works in such magnificent ways. And it is there to help you navigate your day-to-day decisions. It is there just like a GPS helping you make the right and left turns all day long. And if you understand what your intuition is, what a gut decision is, what it's trying to do, how it's trying to help you, holy cow, tapping into your intuition as a decision-making tool, it's gonna help you stay connected to your big dreams. It's gonna help you stay grounded in your values.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Those dreams that you have, those kind of things that are pulling you toward a bigger future, those things that you think about that never quite disappear, they start to act like this future destination that becomes clearer and clearer, and your intuition and your gut
Starting point is 00:17:05 is helping you navigate your way to it. Your internal compass, that intuition and gut decision-making that you have within you, it is programmed there for a reason, it uses the exact same scientific principles that explain why a traditional compass works. So for example, a traditional compass has a magnet inside it
Starting point is 00:17:29 and that magnet, what is it doing when it points true north? It's just responding to the magnetic energy of the earth. Your compass, your intuition, it works the exact same way as a traditional compass. It reads magnetic energy all around you. I want you to stop and think about this because when you really tune into your intuition, you can feel it pulling you toward things
Starting point is 00:17:56 and you can also immediately feel it pushing you away from people that have bad energy, right? You've walked into a room and you immediately feel like the vibe is off with somebody. You're like, ooh, avoid that person. You don't even have to talk to them. That's your intuition. That's your internal compass. See, your compass is constantly reading not only your energy, but all of the energy around you, and that is happening in life and with other people. And that compass then pulls in all the energy around you
Starting point is 00:18:30 and then attunes it to whether or not it's in alignment with you. That's your true north. Or, whoa, there's a person with really awful energy, let's cross the street. Your intuition is part of this complex, intelligent design system that I want you to trust.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I want you to use it. It has been fashioned by your DNA. It is hardwired in you from your birth. It's been using programming from your life experience, from your gut, from your brain, and from your heart. And all you need to do in order to be more decisive and to start trusting yourself is to learn how it works and to start paying attention to the signals
Starting point is 00:19:11 in your own mind, in your own body, and your own spirit. Because I'm telling you, the signals are there and they're there all day long. And this is why I also am gonna continue to remind you, you already know the best decision for you. You already know the right thing to do. The problem isn't knowing what to do. It's finding the courage to make yourself do it. And once you really embrace the truth of what intuition is and you recognize this intelligent system inside you that has been communicating with you since you were born, you are now going
Starting point is 00:19:53 to know what you need to do in any single situation. How freaking cool is that? All of the angst, all the negative energy, all of that resistance and overthinking, it's unnecessary because your compass is already telling you that your life is either headed in the wrong direction or it's headed in the right direction. So let's hit pause and give our amazing sponsors a chance to share a few words with you. And while you're listening, share this episode with people that you care about. Anybody in your life that's got a big decision or they overthink everything or they need to learn to trust their gut, this conversation, seriously, it could change your life.
Starting point is 00:20:31 All right, you don't go anywhere. I'll be waiting for you after this short break. Stay with me. Welcome back. It's your buddy Mel Robbins today Today you and I are digging into the fundamentals about being more decisive, learning how to trust your gut, and being confident in the decisions that you make every day. So let's talk about what does it feel like if you're headed in the wrong direction. When you're headed in the wrong direction in your life, you feel it. You feel stuck, you feel frustrated,
Starting point is 00:21:05 you feel sad, you feel disconnected, you feel like you're on autopilot, you feel like things are mundane. That's not how you're supposed to feel in your life. That's why I say feeling stuck is actually a good thing. It's a signal that you're headed in the wrong direction. It's a signal that your compass is going, ding, ding, ding, wake up.
Starting point is 00:21:24 You gotta turn towards something new. Ding, ding, ding, ding, wake up. You got to turn towards something new. Ding, ding, ding, you got to feel alive again. Ding, ding, ding, this relationship blows. We either got to work on it or you got to get out of here. So being stuck, being frustrated, being disconnected, these are all just signs that your life and the way that you're living it is no longer aligned with where you're supposed to go. It's a directional signal. Isn't that cool? Doesn't mean you're living it is no longer aligned with where you're supposed to go. It's a directional signal.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Isn't that kind of cool? Doesn't mean you're indicted to stay there. And now that you understand that you are designed to be moving in a direction that feels true north and an alignment for you, it's super cool to tune into this inter-compass and GPS system. And I'm gonna give you a few examples.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And these are what I call you just knew it moments. Have you ever had one of those? Of course you have. It's one of these split second moments where you just knew it and you didn't question it and you turned and leaned toward what your intuition was telling you, you didn't even really think about it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You just knew. For example, you walk into a train car or into a bar and the first person you lay eyes on, the love of your life. That's what happened to me. It was actually the voice. I was standing at a bar in New York City in 1994, and I was ordering a bourbon on the rocks to go.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I wanted the bartender to put it in a plastic cup so I could sneak out of the bar. And from behind me, I heard, that sounds great, make it two. And I turned around and laid eyes on Christopher Robbins. I just knew. You know, I've had a couple of these moments in my life where I just knew something was wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:17 My intuition, my compass knew before my mind could make sense of it. One example in my life is when our son, Oakley, was born, he came home from the hospital and everything seemed fine, except for one thing, we couldn't get him to eat. And I just knew something was wrong. And yet my mind couldn't make sense of it. I literally kept going back to the pediatrician
Starting point is 00:23:41 every single day. Mark, something's wrong. Mark, something's wrong. Mark, something's wrong. I had known him at that point for 11 years. Mark, something's wrong. Mark, something's wrong. Mark, something's wrong. I had known him at that point for 11 years. Mark, something's wrong. Something's wrong. I just know it.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I just know it. I just know it. We didn't know what was wrong. We didn't know what was wrong. And then all of a sudden, five days later, boom, the you know what hit the fan. And Oakley is being medevaced downtown to Mass General Brigham Hospital.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And they told us they weren't sure he was gonna make it. It turned out that he had had Hirschsprung's disease, which is an extraordinarily rare disease impacting the intestines. And it had gotten so bad over those six days that he was ready to literally rupture, which would have killed him. He would have died of septic shock.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And I just knew something was wrong, even though we didn't even get that diagnosis for another week or two. I'll give you another example. Day one of my job working for a corporate law firm, 1998, I knew it was the wrong job. I knew it. I absolutely knew it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I felt in my gut like I was dying as I walked into that law firm, every day. But I couldn't make sense of how to actually change my career. I couldn't make sense in my mind how I was gonna pay my bills. I couldn't make sense of what I was gonna do. I had just gone to law school.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I had spent three years being a public defender. I can't change my career now. So I'm telling you these examples because these are examples where you didn't need to know. You didn't need to make sense of it. Your intuition knew because it always knows because it is uniquely intelligently designed to align with the truth for you.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So now that we've covered intuition, I want to briefly talk about this second topic, which is there are two different ways to make decisions. And there are going to be times in life where just go with your gut and just make the decision immediately right now. And then there are going to be those times where even though you know what your gut is saying, and the way that you figure that out is just get quiet, drop out of your head, drop into your body, and feel what the decision feels like.
Starting point is 00:25:57 If you feel yourself dreading it, if you feel yourself depleted, if you feel yourself shrinking and constricted, that's not aligned with you. If you think about the decision and you imagine the possibility of it and something opens up, you feel slightly energized even if it scares you a little bit, that's something that's aligned with you. That means it is for you. It feels a certain way. And in order to tease this out, because this gets very confusing,
Starting point is 00:26:29 I wanna talk about those decisions where you feel very conflicted. And when you need to use your gut, and when you are going to use your head and your thinking skills to act out the decision. Because there's a big difference when you're making a decision between what you need to do versus when and how you're going to do it. And that's what you need to remember when you feel very conflicted about the decision. You're going to use your gut to determine
Starting point is 00:27:07 what you need to do, because as we've just laid out, your intuition is part of your intelligent design. Your intuition when you quiet your emotions and you tune into it is telling you exactly what you need to do. But that is very different than when you're gonna make the decision and how you're gonna tell people. And that's where you use your brain, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:36 And I'm gonna give you a just agonizing example of what I'm talking about. And it comes from one of your fellow listeners who wrote to me, and I'm gonna read to you the decision that this person needs to make. I write about this in the Let Them Theory book. This is chapter eight, and I love the title of this chapter. Are you ready?
Starting point is 00:27:58 The right decision often feels wrong. And that's a really important thing to understand, that there is a difference between the decision that you need to make and how it's going to feel when you tell people the decision. And learning how to separate the decision-making process, which is what is the right thing for me, from the telling the decision to other making process, which is what is the right thing for me, from the telling
Starting point is 00:28:27 the decision to other people process is critical. Because again, I'm going to tell you something, you know the right decision, you're just afraid to make it. And you're afraid to make it because you're worried about what other people are going to think. You're worried about other people's expectations. You're worried about dealing with other people's emotions. That's why decision-making is difficult.
Starting point is 00:28:52 That's why you're not trusting your gut. It's not about the truth. It's about the aftermath of telling the truth. And that's exactly what our listener was talking about. So this listener writes to me, Mel, I'm engaged and soon to be married. The wedding is a few weeks away and I know this should be one of the happiest moments of my life, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:29:14 The closer we get to the wedding, the more my fiance and I are fighting. I can't stop shaking this feeling of dread. Deep down, I'm afraid I'm making a huge mistake. I don't know what to do. The invitations are out. My parents and hers have already put down the deposits for everything. I don't want to disappoint my family.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't want my parents to lose their money. I don't want to break my fiance's heart. I don't want her parents and everyone else we know to be mad at me. How do I call this off? I don't want her parents and everyone else we know to be mad at me. How do I call this off? I mean, just reading that question, I mean, can't you feel your heart seize? Of course it's seizing. Because when the stakes are that high, the right answer always feels wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I want you to stop and think. If the groom were sitting across from you, what would you tell the groom to do? He says, I can't stop shaking this feeling of dread. Deep down, I'm afraid I'm making a huge mistake. Isn't it true that it's so easy to say and to see that on the surface, the answer is actually simple. He should call it off.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I mean, if you're dreading the wedding, you're making a mistake. I mean, you know that, I know that. If you can't stop thinking about calling it off, then you should. But here's why decision-making is hard. Even when the right decision seems clear, it doesn't always mean it's an easy decision to make.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Why? Well, that's because the human experience is largely an emotional one. And what seems logical when you drop into your gut and you imagine, because here's how you would use your inner compass, right? I think about these moments where you feel conflicted, like driving through a blinding rainstorm.
Starting point is 00:31:13 The GPS is on, but because of the rainstorm, you can't see more than 20 feet ahead of you. But you trust the GPS, don't you? Of course you do. And so you just keep moving forward through the storm. Your emotions are the storm. And what happens for all of us, it happens for me. I mean, my God, the emotion is what has kept me
Starting point is 00:31:36 in relationships too long. It's kept me from apologizing or owning up to my behavior. It's kept me from making decisions that work for me because I'm afraid I'm gonna upset other people. Emotions, the storms that you feel as you're following your own GPS, those are going to be there. You have to learn how to navigate through them. See, too often in life when you're in this kind of dilemma, you choose to inflict pain on yourself instead of making a decision that you know is the right one for you,
Starting point is 00:32:10 but it might be painful for other people to accept. I mean, let's be honest with each other. The groom who wrote in, he already knows what he needs to do. See, I think anytime anybody writes and asks for advice on what decision to make, you know what decision you need to make. You're not actually asking for help making a decision.
Starting point is 00:32:31 What you're asking for is courage. You're asking for reassurance. You're asking for help in handling the emotions and the guilt and the dread that you feel knowing that the decision that you need to make is gonna hurt other people, or it's gonna turn your life upside down, or it's gonna lead to something that could be exciting,
Starting point is 00:32:52 but it could also not work. And what I want you to understand is agonizing and questioning a difficult decision like this, that's a mentally healthy response to a difficult situation. There's nothing easy about the situation. Nobody takes pleasure in making a hard decision. I mean, the fact that this guy is worried
Starting point is 00:33:14 about the other people is a sign that he's a really good person. That doesn't mean he should get married to somebody he doesn't wanna marry. And I wanna remind you, there are gonna be times in your life when people are going to be mad or disappointed or heartbroken by the things that you say or do and the decisions that you make.
Starting point is 00:33:30 There just will be. And that's why understanding that there's a difference between what you need to do and how and when you do it. That's the art of decision making. This is a great moment to hit pause and give our sponsors a chance to share a few words. I also want to give you a chance to share this with people that you care about. Being decisive is a skill. Learning how to listen to your intuition is something we all need to do. And sharing this episode with people that you care about could absolutely change the trajectory of their life. So thank you for taking the time to do that.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Don't go anywhere, we have so much more to talk about and we're gonna jump right back into it after this short break, so stay with me. ["The Skill of the Mind"] Welcome back, it's your buddy Mel Robbins. I'm so thrilled you are still here listening and learning about the skill of decision making. As I always say, you are one decision away from a different life. And taking the time to share this with somebody that you care about is a decision that you made that will change someone else's life. So thank you for doing that. Now, one thing I wanna say about the difference
Starting point is 00:34:45 between decisions where you're just gonna go for it and trust your gut and those decisions where you're gonna hit the pause button, you're gonna travel upstairs and you're gonna use your brain to make a plan is that this is super important. And the reason why this is important is because there's a lot of research
Starting point is 00:35:00 about how your emotions impact your decision-making in really negative ways. You know, I'm looking at some studies here that I wanted to talk to you about. There's very interesting research from neuroscientists, of course, about the various parts of the brain that you use and the different ways that people make decisions, but that gets so complicated
Starting point is 00:35:20 that I'm just trying to boil it down for you in simple terms so you can actually walk away from this conversation and apply everything you're learning. And so if you look at what we've discussed so far, which is why you should trust your intuition and your intelligent design in gut decision-making, it is important for you to understand that you have to settle your emotions first.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Because what's interesting is that there's very, very clear research that your brain weighs your emotional state when it's weighing whether or not a decision is a good one or bad one. And this is important to understand because when you're stressed out or fearful, research shows you just choose the path of least resistance. You do what you've always done. You avoid the decision. And you and I have both done that. How many times have you put off
Starting point is 00:36:14 quitting a job or having the conversation or heck, even going to the gym because you feel sad or you feel too stressed out to go? That's an example of how your emotions are impacting decisions in the moment. It's helpful for me to think about the fact that I know the truth of what I need to do in my gut. My emotions have a point of view about whether or not I feel like doing it. We're just gonna ignore that.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And you can ladder up to your brain to help you make a plan. And I wanna remind you, making no decision is a decision because you're deciding to stay exactly where you are and ignore what your intuition is telling you. You're deciding to accept less than you deserve and delay making the changes that will bring you happiness and more satisfaction in your life. Those are decisions and you need to wake up and recognize that you're making them.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Just imagine yourself a year from now. You're in the marriage. You're in the job. You still live in the same place. You haven't moved mom to the nursing home. You are still paying for your adult kid, even though nothing's changed and you resent them for it, when you close your eyes and you drop into your gut
Starting point is 00:37:30 and you really read the navigation, if I point myself toward a future where I do nothing, oh my God, how do you feel? If you feel your chest tighten, if you feel dread, if you feel your energy drain, oh my God. Do not go in that direction. Do not get married. Do not avoid the decision with your mom in a nursing home.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Do not stay in med school. Do not avoid applying for nursing school, this go around, because a year from now, you know that your chest is tightening and you feel depleted if you're not in school, and then point yourself in the other direction a year from now. If you're not married, if you dropped out of medical school, if you are in nursing school, if you stopped financing your adult kid's life and they got their act together, how do you feel now?
Starting point is 00:38:23 If you started that YouTube channel today, if you started marketing your business, if you ended the, how do you feel now? And if you all of a sudden feel things open up and you feel expansion and you feel a little bit of energy, even if it scares you, that is true north. That's what aligns with you. That's what you need to do. Now we travel upstairs as the
Starting point is 00:38:48 gut chit chats to the brain and we ask ourselves, okay, I know what I need to do. When is the right time to make this decision? How is the right way to communicate this decision and to whom? And then you make a plan and that's what you use your brain for. See, in life the most courageous, honorable, and kind thing to do is to tell someone when you realize you don't want to be with them. It's hard to be honest, especially when it's going to hurt other people. You know, the let them theory
Starting point is 00:39:14 has really helped me change this in myself. I used to either avoid conversations or over explain everything, or like overthink things, or delay the decisions I needed to make because I was afraid someone would get upset with me or they think I was a bad person. And all it did was create more anxiety for me.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Learning to let them be upset, let them be confused by your decision, let them react to your decision. Don't be afraid of what people are going to think when you make the right decision for you. This has been all life altering. And I promise you, you're going to experience that power too. I don't think you have a problem knowing what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I think you have a problem doing what you need to do because you feel a ton of conflict about how someone else is going to feel about it. And when you realize that you can navigate those kinds of storms by following your GPS and then using your brain to figure out the best way to communicate the decision, the best timing and the most responsible timing to do it, like quitting your job, don't just do that immediately. You need to use your brain to make a plan and make sure you have enough money and that you don't put yourself in a precarious situation.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But you can know three to six months before you leave a job that you're actually leaving it, that's what you do with your intuition. What you do with your brain is to create a really smart plan to actually execute against it in a responsible and empowering way. See, the only conflict that you're going to feel now that you understand the power of how to make the right decision is that you're going to feel conflict internally about how your decision impacts other people and how they're going to react. This is why you stay in a marriage for a decade when you know you want it to end.
Starting point is 00:41:00 This is why people stay in jobs for too long. It's why people pick majors and career paths and then stay in them because they're afraid of making a decision that is gonna cause someone else to feel something. And if you understand that emotions are a normal part of your life, you're gonna feel them, other adults are going to feel the ups and downs,
Starting point is 00:41:19 you can be more courageous. I don't want you making decisions with your emotions. I want you to make decisions based on the truth of your intuition, what feels aligned with you and the vision that you have for your life and the magnetic energy that pulls you towards it. And I want you to use your brain to make a plan for how to execute the decision in the most responsible and powerful way. When you do that, you will be one of the most decisive
Starting point is 00:41:49 and powerful and unstoppable people on the fricking planet. That's how you use this science. And none of this is easy. I mean, there are plenty of decisions that have been difficult for me to make in my life that I've delayed six months, a year, two months. Heck, when our son wanted to move to Southern Vermont, my husband and our son moved up here for a year.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I didn't go. I knew eventually that I would, but I wasn't ready. The when and the how for me took almost a year, and that's okay. And so there are gonna be decisions that you make immediately when this episode is over. And then there are going to be decisions that you make immediately when this episode is over. And then there are going to be those decisions that you're like, I know that what Mel's saying is right, and I know what my gut is telling me. And perhaps for the first time in my life, I understand why I need to trust it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And I also am going to take a little pressure off because this is the kind of decision that needs some planning. And that's what I'm going gonna use my brain to do. And when you understand decision-making in this context, that there's a difference between what you need to do and how and when you do it, now you can leverage the full capacity of your gut, your heart, and your mind to align your life with what's meant for you,
Starting point is 00:43:03 no matter how hard it is. And that brings me to the final point. I think one of the biggest obstacles to being more decisive in life is this fear that you're going to make the wrong decision. What if you trusted yourself enough to be able to handle the fallout of any decision that you made?
Starting point is 00:43:25 What if instead of fearing that you're going to make the wrong decision, you accepted the science of how intuition and how your internal GPS is helping you navigate, and you started to tune into what you know to be true, and you just separated the truth from how and when you plan and you execute those decisions. You take a little bit of the pressure off, but you really triple down on the truth. Because it's easy to say, I don't know how to trust my God.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I don't know how to listen to my intuition. I don't think that's true. I think you know exactly what your intuition is telling you. You just ignore it. And our conversation today is an invitation to really change the way you even talk about that. I know exactly what my intuition is telling me. I know exactly what my gut is telling me to do.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I know exactly what the decision is. I'm just afraid to make it. I know exactly what I should do. I know when things feel off. I can read the energy of things. I know when I'm at a job or in a relationship or in a friend group or living in a place where it just starts to feel off
Starting point is 00:44:35 and I know I need to trust it, I'm working on how quickly I pivot and execute on that truth. When you look at decision-making that way, that it's all just data, that what you can sense is what's true for you. And that even if you make a decision to get married or to change your careers or to move or to take on a new hobby or do whatever it is that you're going to do. When you make that decision and you truly believe
Starting point is 00:45:08 that this is the right decision in the moment, it's never going to be the wrong decision if you also say, no matter what, I trust in my ability to handle what comes next. Like, let's just take the example of me and the job. When I made the decision to get that job, it felt like the right decision because I needed to pay my bills. And this was the first job offer that I had gotten when we had moved from New York City
Starting point is 00:45:33 to Boston in 1998. So I was thrilled. It was the right decision because I needed to pay my bills. But when I walked into that office for the very first day in that high rise on High Street in downtown Boston, I knew in my gut, oh boy, not the place for me. Do you see the power in telling yourself that there are no wrong decisions because every decision leads you somewhere else. I needed the money and I also knew that I wasn't going to stay there for the rest of my life. And
Starting point is 00:46:10 that's the directional signal that I needed for my internal navigation system, my intuition, my gut, to help me recognize I'm at a fork in the road. And for me personally, I sat at that fork for another year. That's okay. And then I executed the plan to change my career entirely. So was that a wrong decision? Was it a bad decision? Did I fail? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Just like a lot of the decisions that you've made, whether it's decisions to stay too long in a relationship, decisions not to change your marriage, decisions to move, to not move, all of those things are just data. Maybe you're the kind of person that has needed a lot of pain and frustration and struggle to finally wake the hell up
Starting point is 00:46:54 and recognize that it's a lot easier to listen to what your gut is telling you than to ignore it. So all of those things that you think you may be screwed up, maybe it just led you right here. It led you and gave you exactly what you needed so that you could listen to this podcast episode today and say, you know what, Mel's right. I do know what's right for me.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I do know what my gut is telling me. And what I'm gonna work on is the courage to trust it. To not only trust the decision, but to trust in myself and my ability to move through whatever happens when I make it. When you look at decision-making that way, you're not only gonna be able to trust yourself faster and quicker and be more decisive,
Starting point is 00:47:37 you're gonna feel more confident because you're gonna know whatever comes in the wake of that decision. You, my friend, are gonna be okay. In fact, this conversation today, it's made me decide I'm gonna do this thing. I've been thinking about it and thinking about it and writing out the pros and cons on paper
Starting point is 00:47:55 and talking to people and weighing it, not weighing it, stressing out about it. But based on everything we've talked about, it's pretty easy for me to cut through the negativity and the emotion and the fear and see that I actually do wanna do this thing. But based on everything we've talked about, it's pretty easy for me to cut through the negativity and the emotion and the fear and see that I actually do wanna do this thing. And even if it doesn't work,
Starting point is 00:48:12 I feel confident that I'm gonna be proud of myself, that I actually made the decision and I did it. I hope our conversation gave you the clarity and the tools and the frameworks that you need to cut through the emotion, to drop into your intelligent design, to figure out what the right next move is for you, and then recognize that there's so much value in traveling up to your brain and making a plan for how you're gonna execute this decision when it's gonna become a reality. When you do that, I promise you,
Starting point is 00:48:50 there are absolutely no bad decisions because you are aligning what you do with what is true for you. And only you know what the right thing is for you because you now know that you're gonna feel it. Alrighty, I can't wait to hear what you do with this and what decisions you make. And in case no one else tells you,
Starting point is 00:49:14 I wanted to be sure to tell you that I love you and I believe in you. And I believe in your power to create a better life, for real, because now you know how to be more decisive, how to trust your gut, how to follow your intuition and how to unlock the courage to move your life in the direction that is meant for you. I'll see you in the very next episode.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I'll be waiting to welcome you in the moment you hit play. Okay, great, here we go. Okay, great. All right, ready? The one thing that I didn't do, now that I understand the intuition is I didn't, I, the one thing I, okay, I was, okay. Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. Okay, here we go. We should put a piece of tape. Oh baby, I love the swivel. Okay, excuse me. Sorry. Let me just look for my paint. I just want to read this real quick so I know where I'm going. Sorry guys. Oh my god, this is so good. Oh my god, it's so true. Okay, great. Great, great, great. Okay, great. See, I actually hate the term make a gut decision
Starting point is 00:50:23 because... Hold on a second. There we go. Thank you so much. You're welcome. All right, let's I actually hate the term make a gut decision because, hold on a second, there we go. You're welcome. All right, let's eat something real quick. Thank you guys. Oh, and one more thing, and no, this is not a blooper. This is the legal language. You know what the lawyers write
Starting point is 00:50:44 and what I need to read to you. This podcast is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. I'm just your friend. I am not a licensed therapist and this podcast is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist or other qualified professional.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Got it? Good. I'll see you in the next episode. Sticher.

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