The Menstruality Podcast - Trauma, Healing & Finding Safety through Cycle Awareness *Retreat Special* (Kitty Maguire)

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

In today’s fifth Wild Power Retreat special we explore how to work in a trauma-informed way as you track your cycle, so you can harness the healing potential of the practice safely. *TW: This episode explores sensitive topics including sexual trauma and baby loss*In the world of self development and healing, there can be a tendency to push ourselves too hard and too fast, in our desire to grow, expand our understanding and heal. Cycle awareness allows us to tap into the natural evolutionary impulse within us, which keeps us tuned into a pace that is truly healing for each of us.Our guest today is trauma-informed yoga expert and menstruality mentor, Kitty Maguire. Kitty is a graduate of the Red School Menstruality Leadership Programme and is currently studying the Red School Menstruality Medicine Circle training.We explore:How holding yourself with tenderness and compassion in “the void”, just before you bleed has a healing impact for the rest of the cycle to come. The challenge of cycle tracking when you’re having trouble conceiving, particularly in inner summer - the ovulatory phase, and how to heal from pregnancy loss. Bringing humour to the judgmental, edgy parts of yourself that can be revealed in your inner autumn, premenstrual phase. ---Registration is open for our 2022 Wild Power Immersion is now open. You can join here: https://www.wildpower.online. ---The Menstruality Podcast is hosted by Red School. We love hearing from you. To contact us, email [e-mail]---Social media:Red School: @red.school - https://www.instagram.com/red.schoolKitty Maguire: @kitty_maguire_menstrual_mentor - https://www.instagram.com/kitty_maguire_menstrual_mentor

Welcome to the Menstruality Podcast, where we share inspiring conversations about the power of menstrual cycle awareness and conscious menopause. This podcast is brought to you by Red School, where we're training the menstruality leaders of the future. I'm your host, Sophie Jane Hardy, and I'll be joined often by Red School's founders, Alexandra and Sharni, as well as an inspiring group of pioneers, activists, changemakers and creatives to explore how you can unashamedly claim the power of the menstrual cycle to activate your unique form of leadership for yourself, your community and the world. Hi there, welcome back. This today is part five of our special Wild Power Retreat series, where we're exploring how your menstrual cycle, and more specifically your awareness of your

menstrual cycle, can enhance your vitality and health, your creative expression and the way you lead in the world in 2022. The retreat's going to close with a free live online event on Tuesday the 25th of January called Encounter Your Wild Power which is also going to serve as an introduction to our six-week wild powerion which starts on February the 7th. If you aren't registered for the retreat yet you can join us live at redschool.net forward slash wild dash power dash retreat. Okay before we get into session five I want to let you know and give you a bit of a trigger warning that we discuss some sensitive topics in this episode including sexual trauma and miscarriage so take care of yourselves if now isn't quite the right time to listen

to a conversation featuring those topics. Okay let's get started with session five. Welcome to session five of our Wild Power Retreat. I'm here with Kitty McGuire. I hope that you've been enjoying this retreat and that you feel inspired to make 2022 your year of cycle awareness and that you've received some great insights from the conversation so far from Nicole and Natalie and Lisa as well as Sharni and Alexandra. Okay today we're talking about how cycle awareness can support, how it can support whatever you're healing in your life whether that could be from grief or from something that's happened in your past, or if you're working with an emotional pattern that you know you want to shift. And we're going to look at how to work with your cycle, track your cycle in a trauma informed way so that you can really harness the healing potential. I'm here with Kitty McGuire who has 20 years of teaching experience including ballet to personal training to Hatha yoga and also yoga for trauma and more

recently menstrual cycle awareness trainings with the mentorships that she runs and retreats that align with the Celtic calendar as well. She's a graduate of the Red School Menstruality Leadership Program and she's currently doing the Red School Menstruality Medicine Circle Training along with me. Kitty, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for taking the time. How are you doing? I'm great. Delighted to be here Sophie. So thanks for having me. Let's start with a cycle check-in. So for those of you listening you can fill your cycle check-in in the Wild Power Journal if you've downloaded that. Kitty could you share what day you're on and three words if you can that distill the feelings that you're experiencing today so I am on day 18 which is the end of my inner summer I ovulated late this month

so I'm still in the inner summer energy and the words is a there's a busy giddiness that's going on in my in my body and um if I'm honest a little bit hungry now that I think of it hungry for food or hungry for life thanks Kitty um this is a really big topic that we want to explore today in our 30 minute space of time there's so much that we could talk about but i really appreciate you being here to share some of your experiences with your cycle awareness practice and healing and hopefully this is going to plant some seeds for our listeners for whatever they're working with in their own cycle awareness practice. So can we start with your experience of cycle awareness and healing? You know, you speak about womb healing work. Could you talk about how your cycle awareness

practice has helped you with your womb healing? I suppose it's absolutely been transformational and life-changing really, because I don't think I realized how much grief and trauma and just stuck energy that was held in my womb space. I'm naturally a very creative person. And I think with that came a lot of chaos it's also I suppose chaos is definitely a big part of um I suppose it would have been in my upbringing we were a lot of women a lot of creative energy so there was a lot of hustle and bustle so I suppose my cycle has yeah it's absolutely my biggest ally I think it was definitely later in the in the grand scheme of things I suppose the depths of my mc my menstrual cycle awareness work has probably I mean properly connecting with your your inner womb ecology I'd say I'm doing that the guts of six proper good years. And then before it's just the apps of like, you know, you're you're charting when you menstruate, when you like charting.

Just, yeah, the science behind it. But I suppose really, really sitting in the undercurrent of it and tapping into this, the spiritual side of our of our bodies and our cycle but also seeing it as this gateway and like this ally to facilitating greater and deeper healing and for yourself and your bloodline so for me I think I always feel very much so the likes of us who are here now pioneers of this work we're absolutely this light in the bloodline and we're thrashing through just any ancestral trauma that we've brought with us through, you know, maybe our mothers, our grandmothers. And we're going forward to just learn how to be menstrual activists and using it as a way to support our bodies and selves. So that's been

a real game changer for me I think it was a very gradual journey to get really into womb embodiment for me I think because it was it was a very tough place to go there was definitely a lot of shame in there and yeah I like you mentioned there the Celtic calendar or the Celtic wheel as some people might know it this is like the seasonal cycle so winter spring summer autumn and in Ireland that goes for well the Celtic tradition it goes from the first of November till the 31st of October so that's you know once one cyclical year so I would have started with that we learned that in primary school here and then for some reason it goes off the Richter scale because you get into the more educational side of things um and then I suppose through later years

years just come back to it through um there's a great woman here in Ireland called Mary Kennedy who would have brought a lot of that the Celtic wheel um taken from the teacher and teachings of uh Dolores Whelan who wrote who was reviving the the cyclical nature of of seasonal cycles so that would have been quite rooted so it was quite a natural for me. I found it a very easy progression to go into mirroring the menstrual cycle with the Celtic wheel. So that's been really transformational because I was able to see where I was really struggling, where I was losing myself, where my nervous system was just like jumping out of my body. Like it was so far from being in the center of my body it was just really struggling so I think that's been a really on the trauma and form side of things for me just to be able to even make friends with anxiety and feel like I

always call it the bird in my cage which was like the there was that pound in my heart or this it was like the birdie was like being really held tight by a little bird cage and I just learned to communicate with the bird in my cage and it was just like what do you need what do you want and I think that I learned how to do that first it was like um it was so in my heart because that's where I was feeling the pain. And then that mirrored into my womb heart. I was able to take what I'd learned about just trying to support my body and my anxiety that was very much so trapped around my solar plexus, which is where we hold shame. It's our ability to present ourselves to the world.

So that's shut down or blocked. We start to close in and get small so it was very natural because I was building this toolkit from practices that I've been picking up over the last 10 years I'd say you know from really really starting to meet the edges of myself you know whereas you know I'd say before, like when I was a personal trainer or teaching dance or working with children or things like this, you know, I wasn't really I was able to work my body on a functional side of things. And as a Pilates teacher, but I suppose that yoga was the gateway in to the inner work. And then it just it's like every year a new teaching came along so I know a lot of people can feel quite upset that they find that they get to this work late but because you know that great

saying when the student is ready the teacher appears and I just trust that we all find it when our emotional capacities is probably really able to to go there especially with the womb trauma or the womb shame because um some of these are big stories and I definitely feel like it takes time and softness and great consciousness and sure look we're always talking about awareness in this work. Kitty I would love to ask you specifically about something that you've spoken about publicly and it's very generous of you to do so but your own experience of having a traumatic time in your life and then healing it and you speak really beautifully about the void how the void in the cycle has been a really

healing resource for you could you share a bit about that yeah well I suppose like many I don't think I realized how disconnected and how much I was suffering at this stage of my cycle and I just did I felt really like I was I was going mad every month but I I didn't even notice that there was such a significant loss of sense of self. And it was just like, oh, today I'm just a bad lax or there's something really wrong with me. I was hearing like I having real chronic episodes of paranoia, like just so much so that you like just to go outside. The house was just starting to get a little bit uncomfortable it was just kind of going I didn't even want to go to the shop and kind of I felt like I'm going to say something wrong or you know there was just like I had no control of my mouth or it was just

I just felt so disconnected from my body and then when I look back I'm kind of I'm fascinated by that that I just accepted that that was something that happened to me all the time and a bit the the loneliness wound was coming up um so chronically um I just I so there was like this double-edged sword like a hunger and a yearning to be with people and to have comfort in this challenging time in my cycle but also then just not feeling like I had the mouth to brain skills to function so it was just a bit like it was quite stressful so I feel learning how to support that I think especially when I was on the MLP the menstrual leadership program with Alexandra I remember I went there in the void and I was just like I 10 tons I just felt like I was having all the tabs were open and I was just like and I just want to

clarify for people that don't know when what what the void is we're talking about the space in your premenstruum just before you bleed which sometimes can might be an hour long or sometimes might be a couple of days or more long is that is that what you're yeah yeah so but for me I suppose it was a couple of days long I wish it had only been a few hours long so it's absolutely yeah a window of um of great darkness um but I remember um on my MLP Alexandra say kind of just we were having a chat on her own and she was like are you okay and I just said no I'm really suffering today I I don't know how I didn't know how to exist in the circle and I held circles for a living but I was like I'm really struggling and she just said well you're an ecstatic kitty and um she she just it was just quite healing for me that Alexandra just gave me a full language

to make peace with this epic sense of failure in myself and um and then she was saying you know being an ecstatic comes with great you know there's there's great gifts in that but then we also have the polarity to that so I think that was like just being feeling held in that and understood and seen it was it's almost like this yeah definitely an awakening of sense and now I don't fear my void place because I have it marked out in my diary and so even if my bleed does come earlier I just try to trickle as off as little as possible so there's as little to do and even if you know I did start to bleed because I do need to I am somebody who needs to just flatten down the hatches when when inner winter comes when I

start bleeding I don't I don't feel like still going out I like to just get cozy and maybe a little walk with the dog if I if I have to but so I do try and just keep the space before my bleed the void as supported as possible so now when I am I'm in this place in Ireland we'd call it Eitha Háona in other parts of the world they call it Halloween so it's like this is the spirit world and I really do now at times when I do give myself space and permission I can feel the witchiness coming up I can feel the potency and um and and just the the great surge like I do feel like there's this volcano erupting whereas before I would have like really kept pulling away from it but there's nowhere to go it's it's in me I can't escape it

so as now I've got a lot more comfort with leaning in and listening for the signs and just hearing what my asking my body like asking my heart like that that bird in my cage because anxiety for me can just go through the roof so again it's just coming back to that nervous system if I'm so in the sympathetic which is like just the kind for me it's a bit frantic I just really need to sit and regulate that and maybe it's a really long hot bath or my feet in some Epsom salts water or with some herbs or essential oils but something just to make me feel my feet because I am I'm a Libra and I'm very flighty I'm airy and I'm I'm giddy like I naturally have a child's and I still holding on to that child's giddy energy so

it disembodies me so it's been really comforting to make peace and now that's the catalyst for the rest of my cycle so it's been definitely light at the end of a very dark tunnel. one up if this conversation is inspiring you to deepen your menstrual cycle awareness practice this year and you'd like support from alexandra shani and a community of like-minded cycle aware people we invite you to visit wildpower.online where you can find out more about our 2022 wild power immersion this is six weeks of inspiring teachings live coaching sessions with alessandra and sharni a supportive community to help you awaken to the inner architecture of your cycle so that you can embrace the full force of your cyclical intelligence and create a new power story for yourself and the world you can find out more at wildpower.online that's wildpower.online

wow you're pointing to so many fascinating things here i just want to come back to what you do to take care of your nervous system especially in like times of heightened emotion and I imagine there are many ecstatics listening to this conversation people who have big emotions like big joy big grief big anger so in that inner autumn void phase when these big emotions are present you're leaning in so can you say more about what that looks like let's just say you there's no awareness yet and you're we just have this sense of running around like a headless chicken so that can be our first point of awareness to just be like i'm just fast right now is does life if life feels manic too fast out of control all the tabs are open in the brain and all the tabs are open on your laptop just step back like

literally just go outside like whether if you don't live in a house you live in an apartment even just like open the window let some air in go and have a drink of water just to remove yourself from the like this overwhelm like take yourself and whatever feels good for you like I know shaking is is a very good technique for many, even just like putting on some music and just shaking it out. You know, often for me, I don't feel like I want to jump on a yoga mat and do a bucket loads of sun salutes.

Some people might, they might have such a surge of energy, but I think even just saying to yourself, I don't need to commit to an hour long or 90 minute practice of whatever it is just putting on even you want a bit of music because then there's that accountability piece to kind of say there's a start a middle and an end and a lot of the times like for me my go-to song and it still it bursts me into tears like it totally cracks me open as Florence the Machine

the dog days are over like it even still and I think because I've been right in the thick of the dog days and you're like when are they going to be over when am I going to get through this really hard time and I'm I'm I'm in the darkness so even sometimes I've been walking back from acupuncture and I have listened to that song by the seafront 10 times and I might run for a little bit and I might just walk I probably look like some mad woman but I don't care I think there's there's so many of us have felt that like I know for a fact that I've been walking down by the river near where I live feeling premenstrual and just had to roar just like okay it's coming up in me I'm just gonna let it out and then two minutes later

I see someone walking towards me with their dog I think oh I wonder who that was you know but so yeah compose yourself I feel like our world needs you talking about the I think you were talking about your inner witch earlier I feel like there's so many of us who have these impulses that are witchy or from the shadows or, you know, wild. That there's something about the process of inner autumn, letting them have some voice and have some space that's so healing, I think as well like it's so like if you did just stand on a beach and just go and even scream profanities at the ocean just to release them from your body like people will be like what is she at because we're just in such a polite society that's like you know just be quiet now especially women be quiet now be good be over there and we'll let you know when we need you you know so there's I think I definitely go and do a bit of embodiment dance and for me that's been some of the most amazing places so for people

who don't know those kind of dances like you go to like look up five rhythms open floor um ecstatic dance and it's literally dancing as your body tells you. There's no choreography. There's no right, wrong, wrong way to dance. And if you just want to lie on the floor and just be with yourself and just have a little, like, just tune into your body or have a rest or a nap or even just a big cry, because these tears are a release. our menstrual blood is a release ovulation is a release our sweat is a release a burp flatulence shouting singing all these and these are often things that don't um in society it's like they're impolite so ideally if we can get to a place in a forest or or even if we went with a friend and we I think it's easier to feel

like weirdos together so call in your weirdo tribe and uh and go because also it's nice to feel safety when we do this because look it's not always safe for us just to head off to a vast open space on our own so safety in numbers as well so that when we are in it when you're having a release maybe somebody could just hold the space for you and then just make sure you know oh there's somebody coming and so I think there's I think the world is so focused around amazing practices like yoga and meditation but to be honest which I think through my recovery I don't always I don't always feel like they've they've been great gateways into my body but they're not always the medicine they're options they're in my toolkit but what I found particularly

through the pandemic was I did just need to dance and well if that dance just looked like shaking it's like um i think it's peter levine says that if he's a trauma expert if a wild animal goes through a trauma and if they don't get up and shake it off and shake out this the stress that they've just endured in their body it's highly likely they'll die so us as humans and domesticated animals cats and dogs and the likes we've learned to kind of we've disconnected from our our innate wild animal so for us just shaking it's it's great message for the body to kind of say I can release from my cells and from my DNA like just get this stress trauma aggravation out of my being. There's also the practice of trauma releasing exercises. Yeah I've actually done a bit of TRE as well I found it through lockdown because I think and we'll get to that I suppose because I

have been on a fertility journey and I think there's a lot of frustration and I did connect in with an Irish guy who's living in Thailand now and I did some TRE with him and it was really like for me my I'm a champion dissociator for people who don't know what dissociation means it's going off into dream world and just this it was my survival technique that I learned as a child so if any of us grew up in chaotic abusive or really like like allowed houses we kind of learned how to just switch off if especially you know if there was a lot of big voices big language so that's definitely something I've had to had to work with in my body so for me some of these practices I catch my dissociation coming up

big time so I facilitate my disembodiment because I go into just survival mode and I might go off planning a workshop or I might start planning a trip in my head or just start well maybe I'll meet such and such a friend but for me sometimes just to stay present in my body is the biggest challenge of all. Don't you think Kitty that cycle awareness in itself is this grand process of like as we come up through in a spring up towards ovulation I find that I can get more and more disembodied but then my inner autumn brings me back as we do that descent back down towards the bleed it's like I'm being pulled back in and it's part of the innate healing momentum of the cycle in itself I think that it brings us back into our bodies

yeah I think for me um what I've noticed for spring into summer I have I'm very mindful of the the food because I know a lot of people are like oh winter and autumn have um have have stews and broths and real grounding food whereas I need those foods in spring and autumn because especially for people like like that ecstatics ADHD any kind of big energy we need to live in a life that has a daily and probably hourly check-in or like you know even if you split the day up into quarters where am I how can I facilitate my body am I in my body and that's these are big asks like they're exhausting to tune in all day every day but I've really noticed how I support myself

through spring and summer is butternut and squash and even sweet potatoes are definitely part of my food intake and beetroot which is phenomenal womb food and and it's actually an aphrodisiac so for people who are on the trying for a baby preparing for a baby thing and sometimes we're like oh I don't have the libido today but I need to meet these these windows there's lots of food that are naturally there in nature to support our cycle and and so yeah I think definitely having grounding practices to anchor us down and not just use spring and summer as you have to go out and do all your run the legs off yourself like if I run the legs off myself I'll be high for days so I need to make sure I've got it's a walk you know and a little bit of a run if I want to feel like running but make sure there's the anchoring down and real

grounding foods because otherwise I'll just be up in the clouds for days I'm totally out of my body I know that one Kitty let's let's go to your fertility journey if you will like could you share a bit about how your cycle awareness practice has supported you particularly through the healing so I I love to share this because I'm very passionate about it and I think you know I just like to say that I'm very much so teaching from the scar and not the wound because um you know I I had a miscarriage three years ago now and um it was a very slow process um to recover from that and I think for myself and my partner Sam it was very much so an experience that happened to the both of us. Because I just like to say, I do feel like the partners get left out of this, whatever sex they are. Just because I know it's mainly happening to my body.

The other person contributed in bringing this person into the world, whether it was just energetically being consciously conceiving or there's actually DNA involved. And so very much so knocked the wind out of both our sails and we felt I'd say by the summer if you think I remember it was around the July and Sam and I just sat down with each other and we said we're both really skirting around we're both really avoiding ovulation and we were like me like we were we were very much so still making love like for this conscious act to make baby but often we were nearly purposely missing the window that we knew because he look he's I think anyone that's with a cycle awareness woman they're partners it can't help but they pick

up some of the awareness and the lingo and stuff and we both sat down and we had this massive fear we desperately wanted like the desperation was there we desperately wanted to conceive but we were terrified of loss again so just and I think because I got PTSD after my miscarriage and uh it was it was just very hard for him to witness so he was kind of saying like you know he would have to watch me go through this recovery process but um and then wait for me to get to a point so then he could start his so it actually kind of took us I'd say it took us nearly two years to um really really just make peace and forget how challenging because you do like you don't stay in the depths of that suffering forever thank goodness but like um I used to just feel if I've nothing else and this

has happened to me a lot of times through stressful when life throws you hardship and um you know a bit of depression last summer and a very traumatic instant in my life and it ended with a bout of depression and I just took to the bed and because that's my way I go into deep rest I go into hibernation like going into inner winter or so in a deep winter solstice energy and I just used to say if I've nothing else no control over anything else in my life I can still um tune into my cycle and what I found was using the five chambers and menstruation when I didn't feel archetypally um inner summer so I was able to use um say for just using that experience last summer I it began in May and I really feel I every time I

feel like I've come out come out the other side I, God, I thought I came out of it six weeks ago. But I even now I'm still only feeling so I I was felt a bit disconnected from the four seasons. So I didn't feel playful in spring and creative in summer and, you know, wild and a truth speaker in autumn. And then like this wise, wise woman in winter, I just felt rotten. And I felt like I was dying and decaying. I knew I wasn't dying, but I knew something within me was dying from through the grief. So it was amazing because I went into separation. I did have in, in May, which was the beginning of summer. And then I was in surrender for July, August, September.

And then there started to be glimmers of renewal. And then I'd be thrown back into surrender. That process has been incredibly supportive because when I do feel like I've lost myself or my mental health has been challenged I'm able to call on these different tools in the kit and you know like the five chambers of menstruation has helped me through these really stressful grief stricken times in my life and to be able to apply that I know Abby wrote when I read Abby's piece about the five chambers of menstruation and miscarriage, that really, I think it really just gave me a whole new perspective and a lot of comfort, you know,

just flipping the cycle and using my toolkit that I built for inner winter, the void, the early void, was a total game changer for myself and my partner. So that was great. Thanks, Kitty. Thank you for sharing your personal experience there. And for anyone that hasn't explored the five chambers of menstruation, they're mapped out in Alexander and Sharni's book, Power and it's they really are the phases that we go through with any grief process so I love the way that you shared Kitty that you can take them from the healing place they live in in menstruation and bring them to other parts of the cycle that are feeling challenging thank you let's get to our quick fire round okay first one

how do you track your cycle at the moment Let's get to our quickfire round. Okay, first one. How do you track your cycle at the moment? I'm using a temperature thermometer. I wear it because I can have chronic insomnia. And I was getting really stressed out with the temperature. So that syncs up with the fertility program I'm working with here in Ireland and then I have I have charts and so when I'm feeling just a little bit like I can't be bothered or a bit tired or a bit lazy um I can just say kitty can manage one word if you can do nothing else just write one word um and uh and then if i'm feeling like really honest and i'm really committed to you know i'm in all the practices

i'm really looking after myself i'll journal as well okay then the next one's about day one and you said earlier that you need to batten down the hatches so quick fire how do you take care of yourself on day one of your cycle bed food maybe a movie I always know I'm really in the deep bleed going into a deep bleed if I have the concentration span to watch a movie and another movie because I wouldn't have a massive concentrate so bed and food and maybe sofa and movies for just napping love it okay this one's about your inner autumn which we've covered so much today okay you're premenstrual and life throws you a curveball a challenging curveball what's the very first thing you do yeah a big stop um a big breath and just stop and just take stock

yeah just even starting with the simplicity of a breath and then asking my body what you need. Love it. Lastly, what inner season are you enjoying most at the moment? I have to say we had a very enjoyable inner summer this season. It's very enjoyable. We really made the most of it. So, yeah, I think I'm really starting to like inner summer again I think the fear is slowly starting to go and with with making peace with that I'm even noticing my cervical fluids are getting better as a 41 year old woman so I think instead of feeling afraid

at what's not there I'm loving what is there now. So, yeah, I'll go in her summer, which I've never said before. That's so beautiful to hear. Thank you. Kitty, thank you for your generosity today, for sharing everything that you shared and all of this massive wealth of supportive ideas and tips for working with cycle awareness in a really healing way and a trauma informed way. Thank you so much. Thank you, Sophie. You're a superstar for pulling this all together. for working with cycle awareness in a really healing way in a trauma-informed way thank you so much thank you so for your superstar for pulling this all together it's amazing we're blessed to have you doing this wonderful work and it's drawing to a close now we've got session six happening in two days time which is our final session um before our closing gathering which is a live event and the final

session is how menstrual cycle awareness can nourish your creativity with alexandra and sharni so we'll be looking at how as you track your cycle you can track the way that your creative process is working so that you can your cycle awareness can serve anything that you're creating in the world. Thank you so much for joining us today for part five of our Wild Power Retreat series. Our closing event is coming up on Tuesday the 25th of January. Encounter your wild power, it's your opportunity to connect live with Alexandralexandra and shani and also with the community of people there's over 2 000 of us now i think who have been journeying through this retreat together it's also going to serve as an introduction to our wild power immersion so if you've been wanting to learn more about that program and if it's for you then come and join

us on the 25th but before then we have session six coming up with Alexander and Sharni so I hope you'll join us for that and if you're loving this series if you love this podcast please subscribe and leave us a review on apple podcasts and I hope to see you at a live event but until then keep living life according to your own brilliant rhythm