The Misery Machine - Hello Kitty Murder | Hong Kong's Most Ghoulish Killing

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

This week we are covering a chilling and ghastly case of Fan Man Yee(樊敏儀), a young woman who was tortured and ultimately killed by three men: Chan Man-lok(陳文樂), Leung Shing-cho(梁勝祖), and Leung Wai-lun(梁偉倫) in the Kowloon District of Hong Kong over stolen money despite it being paid back over double the amount taken. The slaying gets its name from the victim's skull being discovered in a plush Hello Kitty stuffed animal mermaid, after she was dismembered, boiled, and had her remains disposed of in a trash pickup. Only her skull, a tooth, and some internal organs were recovered. The trio were eventually sentenced to life in prison due to the testimony of a thirteen year old girl that took part in the torture. Two films were made based off these events: There is a Secret in My Soup, and Human Pork Chop Join Our Facebook Group to Request a Topic: https://t.co/DeSZIIMgXs?amp=1 Support Our Patreon For More Unreleased Content: https://www.patreon.com/themiserymachine Instagram: miserymachinepodcast Twitter: misery_podcast #truecrime #podcast #mystery #urban #legend

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Thank you guys for joining us. No other housekeeping notes right now, but I will say that for any of you that have listened to our Junkal Furuda episode. This is going to be something more along the same lines. So same content warnings apply here. It's not quite. We didn't get into really gory details on this one because a lot weren't available as they were in Junco Feruta. Yeah. But it is still kind of triggering. Yes, it definitely can be. There was mixed information on this. That's why it was kind of hard to pin down exact details. So we didn't go in depth like we did Junko Feruta, but some people still might find out.

find it troubling. Yergy didn't freak out on this one. So with that said, this is the hello kidding murder. In May of 1999, a 14-year-old girl made her way to a Hong Kong police station. She told officers that for the past several weeks, she'd been constantly plagued by the ghost of a woman who had been bound by electrical wire and tortured to death. The police brushed her off dismissing her claims as nothing but dreams or teenage nonsense. Their interest was piqued, however, when she explained that the ghost was of a woman.

woman she had a hand in murdering. Following the child back to the flat in the city's run-down Kowloon district, they discovered that the girl's dreams were in fact very real nightmares. Inside the flat, they found an oversized Hello Kitty doll with a decapitated skull of a woman inside it. Well, it was a

Hello Kitty mermaid doll. It was a Hello Kitty mermaid doll. It was very cute. It's something Yergy would probably have. Yeah. I saw pictures of your stuffed animals. You would definitely would have had that. Yeah. The case became known as the Hello Kitty murder and was regarded throughout Hong Kong is one of the most depraved crimes in memory. I didn't know about this prior.

And when I heard Hello Kitty murder, I thought there were several murders where the perpetrator left a Hello Kitty doll at the scene of the crime. That's what I thought too until I went and actually did some show notes for this. And then I was like, oh my goodness, I remember this. Yeah. I mean, how many killers, I mean, Jack the Ripper made it famous because he'd leave grapes by corpses and stuff like that. But I can't think of any other serial killer that would leave a calling card, so to speak. The Zodiac sort of had a calling card. Yeah, sort of. It was Ted Cruz.

Let's be real here. It was Ted Cruz. It was Ted Cruz. So the victim, Fanman Yee's life was tragic even before she was decapitated and her head was stuffed inside at all. After being abandoned by her family as a child, she was raised in a girl's home. By the time she was a teenager, she had developed a drug addiction to Crystal Meth specifically and was turning to prostitution to pay for her habit. By 23, she had secured a job as a host of her. at a nightclub, though she was still battling her addiction.

In early 1997, Fan Man Ye met Chan Manlock, a 34-year-old socialite. The two met at the nightclub and discovered they had something in common. Fan Man Ye was a prostitute and a drug addict, and Chan Man Lock was a pimp and a drug dealer. Before long, Man Ye was a regular addition to Manlock's group in addition to his henchmen. I shall also note that Chan Man Locke looks like he should be in some sort of Asian boy band. Yeah. Because those are still big in Asia. They saw a picture of him, not his mugshot, but there's a regular shot from him,

and dude looks like he could be on TV. He was kind of cute. I'll say it. He was kind of cute. Yeah, well, you tend to think a lot of people who kill people are cute. He was cute. You look like he was in an Asian boy band. I'm not like okay with what he did, but I can say when a man is handsome.

Well, handsome or not, later in 1997, desperate for money and drugs, Fan Man Yee stole Manlock's wallet and attempted to make off with the $4,000. inside of it. There's differing accounts of this. Some people say that it was 4,000, US. Some people say it was 3,000. Some people say it was 8,000. But it was a lot of money. How about that? There's a lot of differing stories about a lot of different aspects of the beginning of this. Some folks said that she was a hostess at like a host club. Some folks said she was actually working at a brothel. It's hard to say. Yeah, it really is. It seems like there's like a lot of just conflicting info. Yeah, even what happened to her. I know we're kind of jumping the gun on this, but I should preface that a lot of what happened to her is speculative

because the people in question didn't admit to any of it. It all came from secondhand information, from somebody that had immunity. Yeah. Just keep that in mind when going through this. So as soon as he saw his cash was gone, Man Locke enlisted two of his henchmen, Lung Ching Cho, and Lung Wai Lund to kidnap Man Yi. He intended to force her into prostitution for himself and take the money she earned as payback for the cash she had stole for him before along however the plan got out of hand so when she returned the wallet she returned it

with interest she gave him back like two some some accounts say ten thousand dollars more i heard 16 000 actually 16 000 was what he was asking for in addition yeah so she if i remember correctly returned 10 000 extra so that's 2.5x what she took and he wanted 16 000 more so she steals 4,000 He wants it back and 26,000 in total. Right. Ridiculous. So that's why you don't steal from a drug lord. Not victim shaming here, but.

Yeah. I mean, Or just take it and run. I mean, this guy is nuts. He's absolutely fucking nuts. So the drug lord and his henchmen soon decided that simply prostituting fan man Ye wasn't going to be enough and began torturing her. They tied her up and beat her and for over a month subjected her to various horrors,

burning her skin, raping her, and forcing her to eat human feast. So there was like a lot more to this. Yeah. They basically strung her up from the ceiling and punched her like a punching bag. Yeah. They would melt plastic straws and have the hot plastic drip all over her feet so it would blister and ooze pus. Yeah. So think of anything that we talked about in our Junko Feruta episode. This is a very similar story.

It is very similar. It is very similar. It was very similar. So they basically just beat her and tortured her in any way possible for about a month, made her drink pee. They actually made her shit in a box and eat it. Well, there's different accounts on that too. So Afung, who will get to, whose name always changes was this 14-year-old girl who had immunity who witnessed some of the case. She alleged.

She participated in some of them. Yeah, she allegedly participated in some accounts say it was her that shit in a box and then made fan man you eat it. It's hard to say there was just so much. conflicting stuff here, so I don't know. But though the torture of Fanman Ye was horrifying enough, perhaps more horrifying is the tale of the 14-year-old girl who reported her murder to the police. Not only was she responsible for turning the torturers in, but she was one herself. So she's known only as Afong, though I've seen other names as well, likely a pseudonym

given to her by the Hong Kong courts. The 14-year-old girl was a girlfriend of Chanman Locks, though girlfriend was probably a loose term. In all likelihood, the girl was another one of his process. I've read that she was 13 at the time. Also, I don't quite understand the whole witness protection program in this instance. I mean, I understand why somebody in this case would have witness protection, but there are pictures of her online, clear pictures of her. In fact, they photographed her next to a fridge with a bunch of meat in it, human meat. I don't understand. I do not understand

why that's out, but they would protect her name, but show her face so clear. it's a clear shot of her too. I don't know. I might add it to some of the pictures that we have if you don't think they're going to get flagged on YouTube. You could probably add that one, I think. I mean, it's all over Google, and it's a pretty common one. Yeah, I think I could do that. Maybe. Just some people know what we're talking about. Yeah. So at one point, when Afong was visiting the torturous trio in Manlock's apartment, she witnessed Manloch kick Man Yee 50 times in the head.

Afong then joined in hitting Man Ye in the head. Though the details of the extent of the torture inflicted by Afong were not released, as part of her plea deal, they were no doubt extensive. When she talked about them, she replied, I had a feeling it was for fun. After a month of torture, Afong discovered that Fan Man Yi had died overnight. Chamman Locke and his henchmen argued that she had died from an overdose of crystal meth that she administered herself, though most experts speculate it was her injuries that eventually killed her. Plus, I don't think she was exactly using at the time because she was bound to. up with electrical wire most of the time I read. Yeah, I don't think she got to come down at all. One thing that I also read was that Afong talked about how Fanman Yi was fun to play with.

That's what she said. That's what she said. And then after she was getting kind of worse for wear, she said it wasn't fun to play with her anymore. Yeah, when she, when they was, she was basically beat to the point of her body being useless. She wasn't fun anymore. And they would go play video games while Famian Ye was bleeding out in the other room. There was just such this lack of humanity. They treated her as if she was just an object. And one thing that was really disturbing about the entire case is she was supposed to act like she liked being beaten tortured. If she didn't act happy as they were beating her, they'd beat her harder.

Yeah, did read that as well. And so, again, the cause of death is speculation because there's no way to know for sure. but I think it's pretty obvious that if Afung is telling the truth about what happened, she most definitely died from her injuries and not from a crystal meth overdose. After discovering she was dead, the henchmen moved Mannie's body to the apartment's bathtub and dismembered her with a saw. So they basically like quartered her and they cooked the individual pieces of her body to stop her from decomposing and admitting the smell of rotting flesh.

What I read about this is when they found her dead, they didn't act immediately. In fact, all of them went to an arcade to play games. They just went to an arcade to play games and just left her while they figured out what to do. And I remember Afung saying that she asked Manlock what to do in this situation. And he said, just pretend this is something you're watching on TV. And so that's what she did when she helped dispose of the body. And, you know, they used boiling water to not just cook her, but to boil her head.

Did they boil her head or they put the head in the oven? I believe they boiled her head. Yeah. They used the same stove that they were cooking dinner in. They boiled pieces of her body and disposed them in the household garbage. They used the same utensils. While they were cooking the body, they also cooked food for themselves. Apparently this was an all-day ordeal.

It was 10 hours. Yeah. And they just, with her head cooking, with all this stuff going on, they were able to eat and have an appetite. And that's the thing that just I can't even feel. fathom. They use the same spoons. I can fathom using the same spoons if you have cannibalistic tendencies. I can't fathom cooking all that and having a rotting corpse in this dingy apartment and being hungry for some mac and cheese. First off, this apartment was disgusting. So I've heard a lot

of different accounts of this about how Hong Kong, especially in Kowloon, especially in like that whole like Waldorf city area. Yeah. You have those apartments that are one on top of the other on top of the other. Yes. And people were speculating that this is like a nicer five bedroom apartment. It's really not. No, it's been trashed. It might have been nice at one point, but it was disgusting. It looked like a squat. It looked abandoned. It was bad. Now, I mean, granted, these are the crime scene photos. Maybe they trashed it after the fact, but I doubt it. It looked like it had been in disrepair for a long time. And full of Hello Kitty stuff. Yeah. Her head, however, they saved it. And after they boiled it on the stove, they sewed it. They sewed it. They sewed

her boiled skull into an oversized Hello Kitty mermaid doll. And the pictures of that doll is online. There's this kind of weird photo of one of the crime scene guys holding the doll in a plastic tote and smiling. It's really weird. Yeah, we'll definitely...

We can put that up for sure. Additionally, they kept one of Fanman Ye's teeth and several internal organs, which they stored in a plastic bag. Also, for some reason, I don't know if they were just high on crank or whatever, but they took some of her organs and meat and they tossed it out a window and it landed on an awning. But the rest of her,

they were able to, besides the skull, they were able to dispose of in the garbage and it was lost in the trash pickup. In exchange for production, which is she also likely received in part due to the fact she was so young, Afong testified against Chan Ban Lock and his two henchmen in an attempt to rid herself of the haunting she claimed to be experiencing. She detailed the torture that the three men put fan man ye through so apparently in her dreams she said that fan man ye was coming to her and demanding her head back i can't remember do you remember i don't remember that part but i know she was she was being haunted and that's why yeah and that's why she came forward so yes this girl is 14 but you know a good sense of right from wrong when you're 14 you know absolutely do you know you're not

supposed to be torturing some girl and disposing of a body this way. So this girl was likely pretty twisted herself. Well, if she's saying that she wasn't fun to play with anymore, when she was beat half to death, I'd say she's pretty fucked. Absolutely sociopathic. Right. I'm surprised she didn't re-offend later

in life. Maybe she did. Maybe she did. I mean, she had her name changed, so it's in all likelihood this is somebody who could absolutely re-offend. Yeah. So though the story was so disturbing, many felt it could not possibly be

true, the evidence uncovered by police was damning and disturbing. The apartment in which Man Ye had been tortured was full of Hello Kitty memorabilia, from sheets to curtains to towels to silverware. Furthermore, the body part trophies taking from Man Ye were found inside that also had evidence that the men had interacted with them. I don't know what interacted means. Yeah, I don't know what that means either. Was there Irimaccio?

I don't know. Well, here's the thing that I'm confused about. So Manlock owns this apartment. Does he just love Hello Kitty stuff? Yes. I mean, Jesus. You got this hard fucking drug dealer. With Hello Kitty stuff.

That's pretty cool Hello Kitty stuff in this derelict apartment. It's just weird. I want to talk to somebody from mainland China or Hong Kong and be like, yo, how common is it to be into Hello Kitty there if you're a person like this? Because over here, it's children or younger women. Not dudes. If dudes were into that shit, you would probably get looked at a little funny. I don't know. Like, some dudes really like Hello Kitty.

Well, yeah, but just like some dudes really like my little pony. And those people are... Bronies. Are bronies and look that funny. I would just think that it would be in the same category as bronies. I don't know. I think maybe things are different over there. I'd like to look into it more.

I mean, I'd like to understand for sure. It's like in Japan, like over here, if you read manga, people might think you're a nerd, whereas over there, even the most normal people read manga or so I was told I don't know I I I'm open to being corrected on this and I welcome it I'm just like more concerned as to why he had all this cool stuff in that shit apartment I don't know either yeah it was just an abandoned squat when you say memorabilia I assume that some of it is worth some money right unfortunately do the state of fan man ye's remaining body parts the police and medical examiners were unable to determine a

cause of death there's no doubt that she experienced indescribable torture and that the three men had inflicted much of the damage to her body, but there's no way to tell whether a drug overdose or a torture was to blame. As a result, the three were convicted not of murder, but manslaughter. As the jury believed that, though they had caused her death, death was not the intent. See, this is very different than the junk of Fruida case. The charge left Hong Kong's public reeling from the Hello Kitty murder,

but the trio were sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole in 20 years. And hopefully they don't get out. My goodness. One is out. One is out? One had a mistrial. One had a mistrial. It was, let me look here.

Okay, so I paused it and I looked. I couldn't find anything. I swore I read that one of them got released around their parole date, which they're up for parole in 2019. But I can't find anything about it. I swore I read something that one of them was retried, but I could be wrong. The apartment building, however, that's been demolished. That was demolished in 2012 because there was widespread public. about this so nobody wanted to

buy or rent the apartment. The flats had empty for years and eventually people decided they didn't want to live in any of the apartments in the building or on Granville Road either. So after purchasing the vacant apartment building, which many people believe to be haunted by the spirit of Fan Man Yee,

the investor demolished the building in 2012. I think they rebuilt something on top of it. They did. They put a hotel. Yeah, that's right. It actually is kind of a nice looking hotel. It does look very nice. There's a couple of movies. that were released. There's two.

Released in 2001. Human pork chop. And there's a secret in my suit. Apparently the latter is more accurate to the Hello Kitty murder, whereas the former is loosely based on it. And there's a Bones episode titled The Girl in the Mask, which is based on this case. Yeah, this was one that, oh yeah, there's a picture of the hotel right here. Yeah.

And it does look pretty nice. Yeah. So this is just crazy. And also, we didn't mention that she was apparently a mum. mother and had a husband too. This thing about this case is that the details are so spotty. Despite happening later in life compared to the Junco Feruta case, the details on this are pretty thin and vary, whereas the Junco case there was very concrete data.

Like anytime you look up anything for Junco Feruta, you get a very solid story from beginning to end. Very detailed. Researching this was really strange. Yeah. oftentimes we'll go to many different sources. So Wikipedia, different articles. I will listen to other people, how they've covered it.

And everything was a little bit different every single time. Yeah, it was almost like looking something up back in the days, the ye old days of the internet, where if you'd look up a case, every angel fire GeoCities page you'd look up, had different data. This is what this kind of felt like. Yeah, so this is something that interests you. I definitely would suggest just looking stuff up and looking at different pages. because it varies so much. It's a very just grotesque murder.

And again, something that really just showcases how some people are capable of being so inhuman and just completely disregarding any sort of humanity they view in a person over a debt that somebody repaid on top of that. I'm surprised that Chan Man Locke had no history of this or documented history of this. I'm sure that he had offended at some point.

I mean, if you're, he's first off a peddle. a file. Yes, that is true. He was also pimping out underage girls. Yeah. So yes, absolutely he was. This was a weird one. It was a very interesting one, but a weird one. I will say what I appreciate about this one, with Junco Feruta, almost all of them are out of prison now. Whereas this, I mean, apparently what I'm reading, I know I said that I thought I saw one was out already, but as of right now, they're all still in prison from what I'm reading. They just recently qualified parole. after 20 years of being in prison, which is far more time than anyone in the Junko Farudicase did. Right.

I really think Afong should have got something. Something. Yeah. But again, trying a minor, you're trying someone who's 13 at the time of doing it. And she was crucial in getting the convictions. If she hadn't said anything, none of them would have been caught. I'm shocked nothing happened to her. I mean, I am too.

Going up against the triads like that. Oh, that's true. Yes, so we didn't mention this. All three of them were in the triads. So that's like your Chinese Yakuza basically. Yeah, the Chinese mob. And again, the drawing perilous to Junkal Furuda, the person who led that was linked to the Yakuza. And these three were triads, or at least Chanman Locke was a triad.

I'm pretty sure all three were triad. Or at least loosely associated. Yeah. And they were all three remorseless. All three were remorseless in court, also different from. the Junco Ferruita case as some of them did express remorse or expressed that they didn't understand what was going on or they didn't think that was going to happen, whereas these three just apparently didn't give a shit.

They denied killing her. They said they weren't trying to kill her. What they pleaded guilty to was hiding a body. Hiding a body as it's written into Chinese law, preventing the, preventing the proper burial of a body, I think, was something like that. So that's what they were guilty of. And they were guilty of that

and guilty of manslaughter, which apparently you can get life in prison for there. And in this case, they did. And hopefully it stays that way. Hopefully. But yeah, I don't know. She could have been killed. Apparently, since there's not a lot of good documentation of this,

maybe Afong did get murdered by the triads. We don't know. We don't know. She very well could have been. Who knows? And to think that this would not have been uncovered had Afong not come to the police about it, how many more cases are there like this? I mean, I talked about this as Junco Feruta. How many more, when it comes to organized crime, how often does something like this happen?

Especially where you're in some sort of derelict department anyway. It's disgusting. It got bulldozed anyway. So any number of people could have been killed, dismembered, cooked, thrown out with a trash. I mean, when you have cooked meat like that, who is really? really going to pick it apart and see if it's a person or not. Right. Especially the triads, which there's corruption within the Chinese police force due to triads.

The yakuza in Japan, there's plenty of corruption in the Japanese police force due the yakuza. When you have that level of corruption, what can you get away with? The only reason they couldn't get away with this is because it was made so public that somebody had to go down for it. Right. And, you know, they felt so brazen about it. They threw organs just out a window just for the hell of it. Literally out a window and it landed on an awning. They recovered it from an awning.

They found like her liver or something like that. And there was complaints. They called the police because they smelled an awful smell coming from the apartment. House is over smelled it. And the police showed up and did not search the place. Also similar to Junko Furuda. I don't remember what their reasoning was. But apparently it smelled really bad coming out of there.

And I don't know if that's what happens when you cook meat or what? Well, think about it as well. So you're in Hong Kong. That's a generally warmer place. Yep. You have, first off, disgusting apartment, which looks like there's piss and shit everywhere. Yeah, it does.

You have a person who has been tortured. If they're keeping her strung up like that for a month, she's definitely defecating all over the place. I mean, I don't mean to speak ill of the deceased like this, but that's definitely what's happening if they're not taking her down. They left her dead on the bathroom floor for a while. For a couple of days. A body in a warm environment starts to decompose.

pretty quickly. Yeah, and even if they start cooking her and stuff like that, the smell is still going to be there. Right. Again, I don't know if you cook human meat, if it creates a smell, if somebody knows this, please let us know. This was reported to the police. And the police didn't do anything. The only time the police did something is when Afong came forward. And at first, they thought it was bullshit. They sent her away the first time she tried to report this. So what does that tell you? And think about it as well, they had her head inside of the Hello Kitty doll. Yes, they boiled it down to a skull, but I know for a fact, when you're trying to, you know, just with taxiderm, you have to do a lot more than just boiling bones to get it down to what you want it. You have

do a lot of degreasing, you have the brain in there, you have all this stuff. Again, I'm not trying to make light of this. I'm just explaining facts here. We're just speaking scientifically what happens. What we're trying to do is illustrate the fact of how much evidence there was to the surrounding people and even still the police weren't doing anything. Right. So if you stick something like that in a doll and just like leave it in your apartment, of course it's going to reek. So what I read from the crime scene investigators, they opened the door and their eyes were watering because the smell there was just so pungent. And when they opened the doll, there was maggots all through it. So obviously it wasn't properly done like a taxidermist would do, as you pointed out.

With all of this said, just how much has to happen? Imagine if they did this, for lack of a better term, correctly. Imagine they were professional about it. They disposed to the body immediately. They took efforts to lessened decomposition. Or disinfect? Nobody would have known this. Nobody would have known this.

And if you're torturing somebody in there, obviously she's going to be screaming. People are going to hear that. And no one's reporting this. It blows my mind. When I read this, I was like, man, this is so just monstrous. but then when you really think about, okay, how much evidence there was, how sloppy you they were being, how many people heard this going on and did nothing or tried to report it and the police did nothing, that's what's really freaky to me. That's what's really freaky because that tells me that if you're at all just proficient at this, you could get rid of so many people there and nobody would do a damn thing, which makes me think that for however many fan man yeas there are, There's tens more that are never discovered that just disappear.

It's pretty fucked up. That's really fucked up. Because you know nobody's going to go like head to head to the triads. They're just going to let whatever happen and not care. I'm sure there's fear of reporting to police. Or maybe there's just a neighborhood where people just mind their business. Yeah, this don't talk about shit. I don't know.

I really don't know. But when I look at facts like this, what I see is a spot where people could be killed and nobody's going to report it or the police turned a blind eye probably due to triad corruption. And that's what this sounds like. This sounds like this was so loud. This was so just noticeable and so public that somebody had to go down for it. And so that's what happened here. Somebody was very sloppy about all this.

And so they paid for it. Had they not been this sloppy, this would have never been a thing. This would have never been known. Especially if they didn't involve Afong. Yeah. So think about that. Think about how often does this happen in the world? Because people see these things and they think this is a rare thing.

It's not. It's not. People get killed like this all the time. This tells me it's absolutely not rare. God, just humans are monstrous. Okay, I don't have much else to say about this. We're now just like ranting about how terrible things are, which they are. Yeah.

Who knows maybe someone in the apartment complex is boiling people and putting them into dolls. I don't know. Yeah, I know, right? What I really want to get across is all this is you sit. here and think that this is a one-off thing? No, it's not. This one was just somebody who was just very sloppy. So that's all I have to say. That's all I got. Okay. If you're listening on YouTube, please like and subscribe. And if you're on Apple Podcasts, please leave us a five-star rating and a written review and we will shout you out. And you can email us at Misery Machine Podcast at gmail.com.

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