The Misery Machine - Mona Fandey | The Murder of Datuk Mazlan Idris | The Singing Witch

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

We hope you're all staying safe in quarantine out there! This week, Drewby and Yergy discuss the case of Mona Fandey - a failed pop singer later turned shaman and murderer from Malaysia. Fandey was executed at the age of 45, after being convicted of the murder of a politician, Mazlan Idris in 1993, who had solicited Fandey to perform a "witchcraft ritual" to help his position within his political party. Ending Song: "Ratapan Anek" By Mona Fandey Join Our Facebook Group to Request a Topic: https://t.co/DeSZIIMgXs?amp=1 Support Our Patreon For More Unreleased Content: https://www.patreon.com/themiserymachine PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/themiserymachine Instagram: miserymachinepodcast Twitter: misery_podcast #truecrime #podcast #mystery #documentary 

Misery Machine. We are. I'm Drewby. This is Yergy. And today we're doing Mona Fandy. Who's Mona Fandy? Mona Fandy is a Malaysian. Well, I wouldn't really call her a serial killer though she's probably Malaysia's most famous

killer, from what I understand, as she was a former pop singer. And then became a witch. And became a witch. Well, I guess you could call her a witch, I know. Which with a quotation marks around it. She called herself a shaman. I think she was just a swindler, but that's just me.

Well, we will get into that. If you're listening on YouTube, please like and subscribe. Yes. It goes a long way. We really appreciate it. And if you want to support us, links are down below for Patreon and PayPal. We're trying to save up money to get a new laptop and a camera so you can see her pretty faces. But I don't really have any other housekeeping notes.

I don't either. So without further ado. Mona Fandy. Mazna Ismail. better known as Mona Fandy was a pop singer, witch doctor, and murderer from Malaysia. She's executed on November 2nd, 2001 at the age of 45, after being convicted of the murder of a politician, Moslin Idris, in 1993. Mona's stint as a pop singer was short-lived. It was during this time she adopted the stage name Mona Fandy to boost her popularity.

Her career did not really take off, but she still managed to come up with one self-sponsored album entitled Diana. They printed us with like Deanna or something like that. It made a few television appearances. She was also a water ballet dancer during her youth. So is water ballet kind of like synchronized swimming? I don't know. I'm not familiar with that at all. Sounds pretty cool.

And I watched one music video for one of her songs. And I don't know, it looked like a top of the pop's performance. And it sounded like something you'd listen to in a Thai restaurant. Yeah, I definitely got the, I'm having my green curry and pad tie type of vibe. Yeah. It was lovely. It made me really hungry. Yeah, I'm not very familiar with Malachi.

with Malaysian music. So I don't know if this would have been considered good or if she was just bad and that's why her career didn't work. But we'll play one of the songs. Yeah, we'll play one of the songs towards the end. And I liked it. You can, you can hear it for yourself. So after leaving the music business, she became involved in spiritual witchcraft activities and was known to be a Bomo, a local shaman. So I guess Bomo is a local shaman. Okay. She began offering her services to clients mostly from the up. upper-class society. She also claimed to have provided politician clients in the ruling United Malays National Organization, or the UMNO party, with a variety of charms and talismans. It was reported that Maslin Idris, a state assemblyman for the constituency of Batu Talam in the state of Pahang, wanted to boost his political career and sought the services of Mona for assistance. Maslin was educated in the United States and was an ambitious politician from the ruling Malay's national organization party. At that time, Mona worked with her husband, Muhammad Nore Afandi Abdul-Ramon, and their assistant Jirai Mi Hassan. Mona and her husband promised to help Maslan by giving him a

talisman consisting of a cane and sabatmi headgear, which was supposedly owned by former Indonesian president Sukarno. Mona convinced Maslan that he would be invincible if he held the talisman. In return, Mona demanded 2.5 million ring it, which I believe is the Malaysian currency. Maslon paid the couple 500,000 ring it as deposit, and then gave them 10 land titles as Surity for the remaining 2 million. Seems like insane money. I'm not really sure what the conversion rate is. Yeah. Between USD and Malaysian ring it, but that seems like a lot. Idris later approached Mona for supernatural help to boost his political career and climb the party ladder. He was persuaded by the couple to take part in a ritual in which she had to lay on the floor with his eyes,

closed waiting for the money to fall from the sky. No money fell. Instead, it was the blade of an axe. Idris was decapitated and then dismembered and partially skinned. His body was found cut up into 18 parts and buried in a hole near Mona's home in the state of Pahang, about 130 kilometers northeast of Kuala Lumpur. Moslan was reported missing on July 2nd, 1993 after he had withdrawn $30,000 ring it at that time about $12,000 U.S. dollars from a Kuala Lumpur bank. The day after the killing, Mona went on a shopping spree in Kuala Lumpur and later bought herself a Mercedes-Benz and had a facelift. When questioned, Jarimi made a statement to the police which led to the discovery of Maslan's remains. Unsurprisingly, Mona and her husband immediately became the prime suspect.

So what is not mentioned is the fact that Jirimi was pulled over out of his mind on drugs. I'm not sure what drugs, but he had a bunch of drugs in his car and he was high. And for those that aren't aware with how drug crimes are in Malaysia, you can be punished by hanging just for trafficking drugs. Even in Thailand. Yeah, in Thailand as well. In a lot of places in Asia, even if you have weed on you, I mean, I don't know if this is the same way in Malaysia now, but there was a period of time where you could hang for having weed on you.

It was that strict at the time. I feel like probably what happened is he was out of his mind. He was already facing the death penalty and just started. confessing to shit, hoping that it would help him. That's my speculation anyway. But the motive for the murder was money. It just seems weird because she was already getting paid a bunch of money just to be a consult to all these rich politicians.

But she and her husband and this dude beheaded this guy for, you know, a Mercedes-Benz and a quick shopping spree. And a facelift. Yeah, in a facelift. Which didn't look good after. It looks terrible. Even at age 45, she looked like she was age 65. It was a pretty bad facelift.

It was a pretty bad facelift. And no surprise after this trial became public, it led to calls for witchcraft to be outlawed in Malaysia. Mona Fandy gained more notoriety than she had been when she was still a pop singer. There was wide local and even international media coverage and plenty of public interest. Anti-death penalty movements including Amnesty International voice their opposition to the execution of the trio. So Mona Afandi and. and Jirime were tried before Judge Dattuck, Mokhtar, Siddin, sitting in the Temerlo High Court in 1995, charged with murder under Section 302 of the Malaysian Penal Code, a crime which carries a mandatory

death sentence. The trial was a media sensation. Mona and Afandi were an attractive couple in their late 30s, accused of a gruesome voodoo-related murder. Mona had a penchant for wearing expensive outfits to court each day. Unlike most people on trial for her life, she always had a smile for the media and seemed to revel in the attention. So I really wouldn't call this a voodoo-related murder. Vood was very specific regionally to East, or to the West Africa and the Caribbean. Very specific culture. Very specific culture.

But that's what they were accusing her of. Yeah, yeah, this is not us saying it was murdered. This is research-wise. That's how they made it sound in the media, which is, it's just kind of funny looking back on it. Anyway. The case lasted 65 days and heard evidence from 76 witnesses. because apparently you can get 76 witnesses to a murder. I'm assuming it was people who saw her shopping.

The prosecution told the court that money was the motive for the killing and pointed to the shopping spree, the facelift, and the Mercedes. Jirimi testified against Mona and Afandi and revealed the gruesome details of the murder. It was alleged by the prosecution that Maslan had been killed between 10 p.m. on July 2nd and 12 midnight on July 18th, 1993. And I'm so bad with Malaysian pronunciation. All right, I'm going to try it. So Campung Peruas, Ulu Dong,

Rob in Pahang State. His body was found on July 22nd, 1993. Thank you, by the way. Buried 1.8 meters beneath the storeroom of an uncompleted house and sealed over with a concrete cap. So July 2nd and July 18th. It's a stretch. That's a big range. It's interesting they wouldn't be able to find if he was dismembered, partially skinned and buried in Malaysia, which is a very moist area, you'd know within that two-week period, based on decomposition. You would think so. But what I've also read is that his body was stashed in 18 different locations. So this is the problem with translated stuff is you don't know exactly what the details are,

but I have read from a couple sources that his body was stored in 18 different areas or buried in 18 different areas. Right. Or he was at least in 18 different pieces. So maybe the fact that he was dismembered so much made it difficult. But I don't think it took them very long. long to find the body. No, because they got ratted on. Yeah, I think she was arrested very quickly. Like, it wasn't even a week, I believe.

Yeah. So, Afandi in his defense said Maslin owed him two million ring it for a magic cane talisman in a traditional hat. Mona testified that she also gave talismans and charms to several other UMNO politicians to boost their popularity with the electorate. It only took the seven-member jury, just 70 minutes to reach a unanimous verdict of guilty against all three defendants.

Offendi and Mona smiled when the foreman of the jury delivered the verdict on the 9th of February 1995. Gulam Mustafa Nadar Ali Khan, who represented Mona and Afandi, was invited to offer mitigation, but declined and said they would be lodging an appeal. Jarimi's counsel, Karpal Singh, told the court that his client was only 24, unemployed, and of low intelligence. The judge then asked them if they had anything to say before he passed sentence, and Afondi and Mona replied that they,

would leave to the discretion of the court. He then passed the death sentence on each of them, that they be taken from court to a recognized prison and later be hanged till they were dead. After hearing her sentence, Mona said, I am happy, thank you to all Malaysians.

She was photographed smiling as usual, and she was led from court to prison. She would make weird comments like this. She really, really did. She said, Oh, look at all my adoring fans and just random shit like that while she was in court. And every single picture that you'll ever find,

Of her online, she has this big goofy smile. She's smiling and she's wearing very expensive outfit. Yes. Their appeals were heard by Malaysia's highest city court in Kuala Lumpur. The appeal process had started in June of 1998, but then had been adjourned until 1999 after legal arguments on the admissibility of Dariami's statement to the police, which led to the discovery of Maslin's body. On the 13th of April of 1999, all three appeals were dismissed in the death sentences upheld.

In April of 2001, the person was. pardon's board turned down their pleas for clemency, leaving the way to their executions. They deal with things pretty quickly in Malaysia, apparently. They don't fuck around. The hangings were set for dawn on Friday the 2nd of November 2001. That's fast. Holy shit. In Kajang Prison, on the previous day, Mona and Afondi were allowed an eight-hour visit

with about a dozen members of their families. It was reported that they spent the last hours advising their children from both their own marriage and previous marriages to grow up and to be good people and to take care of themselves well. A senior prisons officer had said there was a lot of crying and hugging as they spoke to their children and family for the last time. It was also reported that Mona had said she would never die just before she was executed. It's not known what she meant by that. It is normal practices in Malaysia for condemned prisoners to be given the food of their choice for the last meal.

However, this offer was declined. Apparently, according to prison sources, they were very calm, saying very little and requesting nothing in their last hours. We heard something else, though. Yeah, I heard that she requested KFC as her last meal. I've read that a couple times, actually. That's delicious. KFC? KFC is delicious.

I haven't had it in a very long time, unfortunately. So I haven't had it in a very long time either just because, you know, we've been on a healthy eating kick. But I love fried chicken so much. Yeah, I mean, it's very good. Oh, my God. It is very good. Before dawn on Friday morning, the trio were each handcuffed and hooded in their holding cells adjacent to the execution chamber and then led down the gallows with its three British-style noces-day. from a metal beam. On the track, their legs were strapped and the nooses adjusted around their necks. At 5.59 a.m., the drop fell and the three of them were plummeted down. The execution

would have been witnessed by a small number of guards and officials and the prison doctor. The press and the general public are excluded, though I don't know this for certain, because it's been a long time since I've done any research on Malaysia, but I think public executions there weren't in the far recent past. Like, it wasn't too long ago, but I don't know this for certain. I'm not sure if this was a high, if it is still legal there, I don't know. Let me know. If it is legal, I'm not sure if this was too high profile of a case or not, but that was something that I was kind of curious about why they didn't make this one a public one. Yeah, the bodies were left hanging for an hour before being taken down for autopsy and then burial. Mona and Afandi were buried in a

cemetery in Kajang later that morning, while Jerami was buried in his hometown of Fort Clang and the Teggong Muslim cemetery that afternoon. So why do they leave the the body's hanging for an hour. I don't know. In ye olden days, they did it to serve a warning to people who... Right, but if this wasn't public. Then what's the point, right? I don't get it.

Maybe to make sure they're dead kind of like we do here in the States where you have to be with a funeral director for 48 hours before they'll release the body. Yeah. So maybe they left them hanging to make sure they were dead before burial. We cut one down once at the 50 minute mark and they just got up and walked off. We had to shoot them. The last female executed Malaysia been Tan B. Lee in 1994 for a drug trafficking offense. So this has been covered in media.

In 2002, Malaysian film director Amir Muhammad made a short film entitled Mona in his shorts, but it's spelled 6-H-O-R-T-S. It's a series, so I'm assuming that's why the 6. In 2006, a film by Dane Iskandar Saeed entitled Duken, D-U-K-U-N, Duckin, was widely assumed to be based on Mona Fandy. So this film was released in April of 2018. That was a long time for a film to be in post-production. There was no public screenings from what I understand due to the concerns related to

the contents of the film and the relationship between Mona Fandy and the implications for her family. I haven't watched this. I am curious about it. It got 6.8 out of 10 on IMDB. You should try to find it then. Which isn't bad. So I would be interested in that. For sure. I've never watched a Malaysian film before. So that would be something to mark off the bucket list. And apparently, Duckin means shaman in English. I did not know that. Yeah, if we screwed up any pronunciations, please, please butcher us in chat.

Is it not Mona Fandy? Is it Fonday? I don't know. I couldn't find anyone saying, well, everybody said it differently. And there wasn't a lot of information on this case. Like, you'd think that there'd be a lot of information there on the internet, but there wasn't really. Some of these major cases in Asian countries, they just don't seem to make it stateside or get translated to English. It's only what, the Hello Kitty murder probably had the most translations.

Yeah. Out of everything we looked up. And that wasn't even the most grotesque one or the one with the most body count. I just think that murders that happen in Asian countries just don't usually get translated and are just now starting to in this day and age. I do know just from some of the research that we did, she had like several mansions that are now in disrepair and people do urban spalunking in there. Oh, really? They were all abandoned. Yeah, I'll have a couple of pictures. I can throw up in the Facebook group. She had quite a few children. I'm surprised they didn't inherit them through her estate.

Maybe they were taken away. Yeah, maybe. Maybe when you're arresting criminal charges in Malaysia, they take literally everything you have. I don't know. That wouldn't be uncommon in a place like that. Fans from Malaysia, let us know. Yeah, please fill us in. I would one day like to see Kuala Lumpur. I'd like to go to Malaysia. Yeah, I think it would be interesting. I'd be a little worried that I'm going to like fuck up some custom or something like that.

I'm going to accidentally have a big bag of weed on me. And you're going to die. And then I'm going to die. Because, yeah, we smoke all this weeds. We smoke all this weeds. It's like another thing. Drewby's allergic to. I think anyway.

I've only had a good high, like maybe three or four times in my life. I'm just too old for it now. Yeah. Unless it's like an edible and I'm in the comfort of my own home. Like I just don't smoke anything anymore. Some dude bro's like, bro, you're just smoking the wrong strain. They give me another strain. And it does the same thing to me almost every time, which is I sink into the couch and I have the worst sleep of my life. It's awful. I don't know how people are using this to get to sleep because it's as if I don't enter REM sleep. I wake up and I'm not rested. And I just feel like shit. My body's heavy. It's just not good. I can get to sleep with it, but before that, I start contemplating all the mysteries of the world. And I start becoming very paranoid and critical of the most minute things. The only times I've had good highs, people told me it was old weed. It was like year old weed.

I smoked it and I felt really good and really sharp for 15 minutes. And then it just went away. And I felt slightly worse than before I smoked it. So I had something similar. A friend of mine hooked me up with a vapor. I'm an operizer pen and it came with some oils that had this sativa blend in it. And it worked really well for me. I was completely functional and the high only lasted about 15 minutes.

Yeah. And I enjoyed that. It like helped my anxiety. It actually had, I was a lot more focused. It was really kind of good for me and then it broke. For me personally, it's just a waste of time. Like doing all that just for 15 minutes and I don't even get the effects afterwards. At least with mushrooms after the come down, I feel like I've been anointed.

in some way. I feel I feel so rejuvenated, but we'd just take something from you. At least for me, I know it's a lot of people that helps. And I'm not against legalization. Go ahead, do it if it helps you. But it's never been useful for me. I don't think I have anything else about the case. So, no, I don't either. Yeah, quarantine update. We're still alive. We don't have the COVIDs that we know of. Maybe we got it last week. Every time I go out, I'm just like, this is it. This is the time. I catch the plague. And people have been so irresponsible. responsible. Incredibly irresponsible.

So I don't know if we talked about this last time, but we did. We did talk about it last time. I'm going to talk about it again. Yeah, we can touch on it a little bit. When we go over to Great Falls and everyone's like up in our shit. Yeah, everybody's out. Few people are respecting social distancing. There are some people that have and I respect that.

But a lot of people are not. And a lot of people are going out because they're being told they shouldn't go out. And these people who would never take a walk in their life are now going outside just to give the middle finger, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, my sister, Ashley, she was all like, I'm going to go run on the walking trail. I see you guys go there all the time. I'm like, don't go there. She's like, why? I'm like, because everyone's there. Yeah. I'm like, we literally sit in the car, run out of the car, take a little video for like Snapchat and then run back to the car. That's all it is. That's all it is. I remember we were out. We walked the walkway

just a little bit because there wasn't many people and I had to keep looking over my shoulder. and I was like there's somebody coming down the hill and there's three bikers coming behind us so we have to step off. And I just treated everybody as they had this passive aura of infect disease. This was D&D or some sort of MMO. Yeah. And this was Yergy's case, wow, or in my case, like D&D or Conquer Online or any garbage game. Well, yes, yes, you did play D&D. That's true.

We've played D&D together. We have. It was like 10 years ago. Fuck people right now. The Hannaford Tugo seems to be off the fucking chain right now. where you can't even make a appointment. I respect the people are doing that. I don't think everybody knows that Haniford Tugo is.

We should probably explain that. Yeah, so it's basically curbside delivery. You sit by the grocery store and they come out and they bring you your shit. But I think the reason why a lot of people are doing this is not necessarily because they believe COVID is real, but it's because they don't want to wait in line. I don't want to wait in that line. I did that last week for Easter. It was terrible.

And there was an old man shouting about how the Haniford workers aren't maintaining six feet distance, so why should he have to? And I've heard other things like this, people in lines at Walmart just shouting and making a fit saying this is America and they don't have to stand six feet apart in Nazi Germany if they don't want to, just weirdo shit like this. What is it? Ohio or it was either Ohio or Iowa, maybe it was Wisconsin. One of those three states, a bunch of people gathered on the state capital steps and just banging and shouting at the door, telling them to reopen. Like, what are you doing? I can't with these people right now.

I really can't. We are doing Hannaford to go today, though. We have to drive 45 minutes away to get our groceries. Yeah, because there's no curbside delivery in Lewiston or Auburn or Turner. Yeah. It's all booked up. So we're going to our nation's capital. Yeah.

Our state capital. Our state's capital, which is a pretty shitty place. The only reason it was made the capital back in the day because the Maine so huge and the highway system is so fucked. So they made the halfway point for everyone to track. the state's capital. So every representative from every town would have about the same distance to go. Do you know that? Well, I did know it. It was initially Portland. It was. But Portland kept burning down. And Portland was known collectively as Falmouth back then. Not the Falmouth we know now. Yeah. Portland's always catching fire. But in the modern day, it's Lewiston that's always catching fire.

Because of all those old buildings. Derelict buildings. Or the Bates Mill burning. Yeah. That was quite fun to watch. I enjoyed that. I clocked out early out of the call center we used to work at and drove down there and just sat and watched it burn. It was kind of sad because I used to walk through there and shit and explore it a little bit. But another part of Lewiston history gone, there's more businesses closing. There are. I'm so sad. The only Quebequa restaurant, which is Pierrette's in the Airmal, is closing today.

And granted, there's not much I can have there because a lot of it has gluten or pork in it. But I respect the fuck out of anybody. trying to breathe Franco-American heritage back into Lewiston, which is called Little Canada for a long time or Little Quebec, to the point where people that are not from around here think there's still a thriving French population in Lewiston. It's been dead for a long time. You don't hear people speaking French no more. I did when I was younger. I don't hear people speaking French no more. When I was in Quebec City in Quebec, I was going through the tallest building in Quebec, just being a tourist or whatever. And this tour guide walks up to me, start speaking French to me,

And I said, I'm sorry, like my French is abysmal. I apologize. He's like, oh, where are you from? And I said, I'm from Maine. He's like, where in Maine are you from? I was just in a gunkwit. And it was beautiful there. And I said, oh, I'm from Lewiston.

He's like, oh, Lewiston. That's the most French place in Maine. That's the, there's a thriving French population there isn't there? And I'm like, oh, God. Well, actually, it's been dead. It's dead, but it's still done at home. Like, you don't see it so much out and about. I mean, I guess where I'm a little older.

than you. Like I saw it a little bit more growing up because I worked in Lewiston and there were still people coming in and all sitting and speaking French together, all these little memes and stuff. And you'd still see it out and about. On my father's side where they are French, you know, I see it. Well, yeah, at home, you'll probably speak to the older generation that way. And I agree with you. When you were growing up, you probably saw it just like I saw it. Because I'm speaking from my younger years. I heard people speaking French. I saw more of that stuff. But it's mostly older people. They're not really teaching our generation French, and our generation isn't speaking it freely as previous generations were. And there's not really any like French owned businesses anymore.

It's not the population that it used to be. I think that's everywhere, though. So I know it's an issue in Iceland. A lot of people don't teach their kids Icelandic anymore. Really? Or it's becoming a problem. They speak English? Yeah, they speak English mostly.

I don't think it's everywhere. I mean, I heard like Bensonhurst in New York, which is Little Italy. everybody speaks Italian there. Your kids learn Italian. Yeah. You know, I just think there's still pockets of America where there was immigrant communities and they're still keeping the tradition. I think, yes, it's dying out more frequently than it did in generations past,

but I don't think it's dying out everywhere across the board. Well, yes, like places in New York where there are bigger immigrant communities, you're going to see that. Like, you know, in Brooklyn, you're going to have people speaking Hebrew and Russian and stuff. Yeah. The biggest Jewish population in the world is in New York City. Yes. Out here, I'm just speaking in general.

More, I want to say rural, but like suburban areas, like outside of larger cities. They're more simulated. Think about it now. Right now, we have the biggest immigrant group in the area are the Somali populations and the people from Africa that are over here. Yeah. I'm just saying people from Africa because it's not more than just Somalis now. We have Ethiopians.

There's people from the west coast of Africa. You see it now. Everybody's, like, speaking their own, like, native languages and everything. But when you start getting into other generations, they're going to speak. English more and more and more. It's probably true. Yeah. It's probably true. But I think that that just like when the French first immigrated here, it's going to carry

on for a few generations before that happens. I mean, if you just think about it, if the French community was starting to die out one generation, two generations previous where we start to see the decay, the French immigrated here hundreds of years ago, right? It was like 1800s, 1700s. Yeah, late. Well, I mean, green was founded. in the late 1700s.

Yeah, but not by French people. The boobiers were one of the first people. That's a French name. Bubier and then the mowers who are, who are Irish. Those were the two first families. I was generally like an Irish area before. Yeah, I thought like Lewis and Auburn everything. Oh, oh, you thought it was generally Irish immigrants.

It's not unreasonable to think you think of how far we are from Boston. That's a huge Irish community. Yeah. But it's also, there's Italian community there too. So I don't know. I think as far as the French are concerned, they first immigrated up where is Canada now, and then some of them came down further south. Yeah, and now that's how we had a French community here.

I don't remember where I was going. Oh, yeah, 18, 18, 17. I think it was late 17, if I had a guess late 17, early 18. But they've been here for a while. Yeah. And this tradition has carried on for this long that I don't think with the Somali population, it's going to die out that quickly. I don't see it dying out in our lifetimes, that's for sure.

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It's going to be just some time before we hit 1,000, and get that sweet monetization money. But if you would like to support us, you could go to our Patreon and hear all of our secret episodes that we do. I think we'll be recording another. one here soon and you will get postcards and snaps from us and I think that's pretty cool. Yeah, I just bought a whole bunch of new postcards yesterday. So those should be coming in the

mail shortly. I got a bundle from Courtney at Quiet City Book. She's doing $15 and $20 bundles of stationary right now. So if that's something that you're into and you want to send people postcards to try to support the postal service, which is having a pretty hard time right now. Yeah, legit. Go see Courtney at Quiet City on Facebook and she can hook you up a stationary. She'll mail it to you. And I should also say that any of the money that's been donated to support us or gone through Patreon, we haven't withdrawn any of it yet. We are saving up when we're probably going to have to replace these mic stands soon because they keep falling off. They're literally hanging on by a thread right now. Yergi says broken several times. Mine is broken once and they're

barely hanging on. So we're probably going to replace those. We really want to replace this laptop because it's slow. It lags when we record. And it doesn't have. have a whole lot of memory, but what I really want to get is a camera, especially to you listening on YouTube. Don't you want to see our pretty faces? We're pretty attractive, I think. I think so. We just don't have a camera. We did that one video with my, um, my Logitech webcam. It wasn't very grud. It was not good. It was not grud. We looked stiff and terrible, and it was dark. It was just dark. We could get more lights in here, but that's the other thing. I probably have to get some nice back lighting like they do for it's amateur movie sets. But yeah, we need the camera. Real.

bad. So everything that you donate to us or either through Patreon or PayPal, which if you donate through PayPal and you want to get some of the secret goodies, we will hook you up. But every single thing, down to the last cent, we'll go back into this podcast. We don't even take the money from that to put to our hosting fees. That's out of our own pocket. Once we save up enough, it's either camera or laptop. I'm not sure what yet. And definitely Mike Stan. We need Mike Stans really bad. But the big thing we're saving up is either the camera or laptop. I'm leaning towards the camera, but we'll see what happens. So yeah if you'd like to support us you know what's up you got anything else that's really all i had we have to get the episode uploaded in a couple hours so why don't we do that but as promised as promised

we have we have some mona fandy for you yeah we're gonna have yeah yeah fucker outro music you're gonna hear some mona fandy music so enjoy enjoy enjoy the sweet little sounds of somebody who's long since been dead but i like it yeah i think i think it's pretty cool all right until next time we love you bye we love you bye Yeah, now love.