The Misery Machine - The Case of Michelle Le
Episode Date: April 6, 2026This week, Drewby and Yergy head to Hayward, California, to discuss the case of 26-year-old nursing student, Michelle Hoang Thi Le. Michelle was last seen at around 7:00 p.m. at the Kaiser Permanente ...Medical Center in Hayward, where she was completing a clinical rotation for Samuel Merritt University. She disappeared during a break while walking to her car. Her locked SUV was found abandoned nearby the next morning with bloodstains inside. Security footage and GPS data showed her former high school friend, Giselle Esteban, was at the scene and traveled along the same route as Michelle’s phone shortly after she vanished. After four months of intensive searches, Michelle Le’s skeletal remains were discovered in September 2011 in a remote canyon. Prosecutors established that Giselle was motivated by a "deadly obsession" and jealousy. She mistakenly believed that Michelle was having a romantic relationship with Scott Marasigan, the father of her child.Support Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themiserymachinePayPal: https://www.paypal.me/themiserymachineJoin Our Facebook Group: https://t.co/DeSZIIMgXs?amp=1Instagram: miserymachinepodcastTwitter: misery_podcastDiscord: https://discord.gg/kCCzjZM#themiserymachine #podcast #truecrimeSource Materials Available Upon Request.
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For Vietnamese immigrants who had fled their homeland following the war in the 60s and 70s,
they traveled in an open boat across the South China Sea and spent months in a refugee camp
before finally making it to San Diego.
At first, they knew very little about American culture, but not.
in a relatively short amount of time, they adapted and built a stable life for themselves.
Michelle grew up surrounded by a large, extended family, many of whom went on to become doctors and
lawyers.
Michelle's mom, who hasn't been publicly named, by all accounts, was the perfect mother.
She worked as a nurse practitioner, but was always present and raised Michelle and her brother
with constant love and care.
Michelle admired her mother in every way and wanted to follow in her footsteps.
From a young age, she hoped to become a nurse just like her.
her. In 1994, when Michelle was just 10 years old, her mother was diagnosed with cancer. She chose not to
tell her husband or any of her family. She believed it would affect her children. Her and her husband
promised that their kids would have a staple childhood and nothing like what they had gone through,
so she kept her diagnosis a secret. One of Michelle's favorite childhood memories involved
her favorite bedtime story. This was a Vietnamese folk tale called Woman on the Moon. The story
follows a woman who drinks an elixir of life and becomes weightless. She is lifted into the sky and
carried to the moon, far, far away from the people that she loves, where she is destined to spend her
immortal life alone. Michelle's mother would tell her children to look up at the moon, and that if they
look closely enough, the surface look like a woman with long, dark hair. Michelle was the oldest of her 15
cousins. According to her cousin Christine, Michelle was a role model growing up. She naturally took on
responsibility, especially when it came to looking after her younger brother. Even though they were
only three years apart, Michael often saw Michelle as a second mother. For a while, life felt stable,
but in 1999, everything changed. At Thanksgiving, the entire family gathered for dinner.
Michelle's mother was completely fine, but just days later on December 1st, Michelle and Michael were
hit with devastating news that their mother had succumbed to cancer. Loss came as a shock to the
entire family. After her mother's death, Michelle had to step up even more. The children still young
and needing support, Sun Lee moved the family in with his sister who lived about 15 minutes away.
Christine was excited to have her cousins living with them. Michelle was always there for Christine
during her many milestones into adolescence. She helped her write her first love letter,
took her to the mall to get her eyebrows done for the first time, and taught her how to do her makeup.
They even started their first job together at Rubio's Coastal Grill. People would
sometimes call Christine mini-Michel. Christine later described her experience growing up with Michelle
saying, she seemed to live as though she knew the secret, that life was short and precious,
that relationships mattered most and everything else was just stuff. Most people don't reach
that realization until much later, but Michelle, she always knew. Michelle was joyful, carefree,
lighthearted, beautiful inside and out. She laughed easily, joked often, forgave liberally,
and gave constantly without expecting anything in return.
She loved to shop.
She was your best bargain shopper
and had a seriously awesome, fabulous closet.
She loved to dance and going out with her friends.
She loved to eat and then judge all restaurants on Yelp.
She loved to read.
She had three tattoos, a compass, a sparrow,
and her mom's signature on her left breast over her heart.
She hated heels and always opted for sandals or boots.
She would loan her friends anything they needed or wanted,
whether it be a card against,
to a job interview or a scarf on a cold day. She gave and gave and even took her passion for
helping and put it toward a career in nursing. Michelle attended Mount Carmel High School. She was known for
being kind to other students and was fairly popular, but she always remained humble. One day, she noticed
a student named Giselle DeWag Esteban sitting alone at a lunch table. Michelle walked over and invited
her to sit with her. Giselle accepted. Eventually they became best friends, though at the time,
Michelle had no way of knowing that this friendship would one day cost her her life.
Giselle was quiet and introverted and Michelle helped bring her out of her shell.
Eventually, Michelle included her in family gatherings and went out of her way to make sure she never felt left out.
Giselle came from a Filipino immigrant family and Michelle and Giselle bonded as they both felt they were raised in similar environments as well.
By the time they graduated high school in 2002, the two were inseparable.
It was Michelle's lifelong dream to become a nurse.
and over time, Giselle decided to pursue the same path.
For graduation, the pair applied to college for their prereq so they could later get into nursing school.
Both Michelle and Giselle decided to move north to the San Francisco Bay Area.
Giselle was accepted into San Francisco State University, where Michelle was accepted to San Jose State University.
Shell planned to later transfer to Giselle's school so they could be closer.
In the spring semester of 2003, Michelle and Giselle were together once again.
There, Giselle introduced Michelle to many of her friends.
One of those friends was Scott Morassigan.
The two briefly saw each other for about a month, but Scott remained in Michelle's circle only as a friend.
Later that year, Giselle and Scott began seeing each other more frequently, and eventually their relationship turned romantic.
Michelle was so happy that they were dating.
And around the same time, Michelle landed a job at Turner Construction as an accounting clerk,
and she also found love with her new boyfriend, Tommy.
But soon the relationship between the best friends turned Rocky over a complete misunderstanding.
Jazele had thought Scott had slept with Michelle, which wasn't true, but Michelle had kept a secret
from her. She was pregnant and planned to not continue with her pregnancy. She had her own reasons
for not sharing this with Giselle, but she did confide in Scott about it. When Giselle eventually
found out she became furious. She believed that Michelle had slept with Scott and became pregnant
with his baby. Michelle tried to explain what really happened, but Giselle refused to listen
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Jazele found out that she was pregnant with Scott's baby.
For the sake of their unborn child, the pair reconciled.
Jazele decided to take a break from her studies to focus on her health and the new baby.
In Halloween of 2005, Jazele gave birth.
At the summer of 2008, the relationship between Jazeel and Scott ended for good.
Two began sharing custody of their young daughter.
Giselle blamed Michelle for her failed relationship and cursed her.
Years that followed, Jazele attended therapy and during one of the sessions,
she asked for both Michelle and Scott to be present so she could clear.
the air and find some sense of closure. It wasn't easy for Michelle, but for her former best friend,
she was willing to sit through what was emotionally painful for her to do. Scott said therapy
didn't do any good, and Jaselle still hated Michelle. Even so, Michelle was still willing to do
anything to clear out the tension between them so they could get back to being best friends again.
Two psychiatric evaluations were also conducted on Jocel in the summer of 2010, both of which
documented a history of depression. One reported incident, a friend claimed to have a friend claimed to
found an empty bottle of antidepressants near Giselle while she was asleep.
Giselle denied ever attempting an overdose.
Despite these concerns, the evaluations concluded that she was not considered a danger to
herself or to others at the time.
By August of 2010, Michelle had completed her prerequisites for nursing school.
She got accepted into Samuel Merritt University's accelerated nursing program,
which would allow her to get her bachelor's in nursing in one year instead of two.
This is a demanding program academically and very comprehensive.
competitive, but Michelle made the cut.
One of the first people she shared the news with was Giselle, but Giselle still held
on to her resentment.
Despite Michelle's willingness to reconcile, Giselle's insecurities prevented that from happening.
It later came to light that Giselle repeatedly called and harassed Michelle.
By early 2011, Michelle had given up hope and tried to avoid Giselle altogether.
Michelle was extremely busy now.
In the morning, she attended university classes.
In the afternoon, she works shifts at Kaiser Permanente.
She still put in a lot of effort to keep in touch with her friends and family.
Michelle's cousin Christine was also planning to move in with her for her new job, but that would never happen.
By May of 2011, now 26-year-old Michelle was working in the maternity ward.
She was only six months away from her graduation.
On the night of Friday, May 27th, Michelle had her final evaluation with her assistant professor and instructor of Lori Rosa.
Michelle's last evaluation hadn't gone perfectly, so she was feeling a bit uneasy as she wanted to graduate with straight A's.
But Michelle also had exciting things that she was looking forward to.
Memorial Day weekend was just around the corner and she had already made plans with friends to visit Reno.
At 6.55 p.m., Michelle told one of her colleagues that she was going to grab some medicine from her car, which was parked in the hospital's garage.
To get there, she would have to take a pedestrian bridge from the hospital to her car and then up to the third floor near her back corner.
Shortly after a hospital security guard notified Lori that Michelle had not signed out from the maternity ward.
It was completely out of character for Michelle.
Lori searched the ward and left Michelle a voicemail, but she was still unaware that anything was seriously wrong.
At around 9 p.m., the maternity students were wrapping up their final shift.
Lori gathered everyone together for evaluations.
Michelle wasn't there.
The last time anyone had seen her was just before 7 p.m.
before she said she was headed to her car.
Lori asked a security guard to accompany her,
and the two went to check on Michelle's car.
When they reached her usual spot,
her white Honda CRV wasn't there.
Once later, Michelle's car suddenly screeched back into the garage.
Lori began waving, and it slammed on its brakes for just a moment,
but then immediately reversed back,
almost struck another vehicle and drove away.
At this point, Lori strongly doubted that Michelle was the one driving this car.
By 10 p.m., Lori contacted the Hayward Police Department and reported that Michelle may have been abducted.
Inspector Frazier Ritchie was handed the case.
The officers at the scene noted that most of Michelle's belongings had been left behind in the hospital break room.
The only thing she had taken with her was her cell phone, suggesting that Michelle hadn't left willingly.
By Saturday morning, there were still no signs of Michelle.
Her friends spent an entire night calling and texting her, but none of them received a response.
Everyone who spoke with the police just stress how much this behavior was out of character for Michelle.
Investigators discovered that Michelle's car was equipped with LoJack, a vehicle recovery system.
By 9 a.m. on Saturday, they located Michelle's car parked in a townhouse complex on Ponderosa Court,
just half a mile from the hospital.
The car was locked and not damaged.
It was parked normally, and at first glance, everything inside appeared almost normal.
Because the police didn't have a warrant, they could only look through the window.
windows which were tinted. There were, however, some unusual details. Fresh grass was in the
tailgate. They also noticed what appeared to be blood stains in the car. Finally, they were able to get
it towed for forensic analysis. Investigators then returned to the parking lot where Michelle's
car had originally been parked and noticed blood on the ground near the spot. Michelle's friends had
already begun handing out missing persons flyers. Michelle was described as Vietnamese, standing
five foot six and weighing about 120 pounds with a tattoo of her mother's signature on her left
chest, which is last seen at Kaiser Permanente Hospital wearing white scrubs.
Investigators also requested the security footage from the parking garage.
Since the recordings were being stored at an off-site data facility, all that could be done
was to put in a request and wait for the footage to be sent.
In the 15 hours since Michelle had gone missing, her friends and family had sent over 100
texts and calls with no response.
But by 12.45 p.m., they started receiving strange text messages from Michelle's phone.
The messages claimed to be Michelle, said she was fine, and that she wasn't missing, and that she just needed some time alone.
She also explained that her phone had been acting weird and that the flood of messages had drained her battery.
By 2 p.m., the text stopped all of a sudden.
Inspector Ritchie also texted Michelle directly that there was an active investigation and that she need to respond immediately, but she didn't.
Her behavior made no sense. She didn't call a single loved one.
She also replied to her boyfriend Tommy with,
Who is this?
I don't have your number in my contacts.
Tommy's number was one that Michelle knew by heart.
Michelle's friends were convinced that someone else was using her phone.
Investigators had also obtained the parking garage footage.
They began combing through more than 100 hours of video across 330 camera angles.
Eventually, they did find Michelle.
She was seen briskly walking across the footbridge towards the parking lot.
Nothing appeared out of the ordinary.
She wasn't being followed or chased, but she did appear to be in a hurry,
assumedly because she had only had a short break and planned to return quickly.
Unfortunately, the main camera covering Michelle's parking spot was recently installed and was not set to record.
Michelle was seen walking towards her car at around 6.55 p.m. on Friday night.
Her vehicle exited the parking garage at approximately 717.
It then returned briefly at 906, but when Lori Rosa waved at the white Honda CRV,
the vehicle suddenly stopped before rushing out again.
After searching inside Michelle's car, investigators found an ID badge partially shoved under the front passenger seat.
It did not belong to Michelle.
Instead, it belonged to a woman named Elaine San Augustine from Samuel Merritt University, who was an adjunct instructor.
Inspector Ritchie showed the badge to Lori who said she didn't recognize the woman.
After further checking, however, was discovered that Elaine was scheduled to begin working at Kaiser Permanente as a new instructor.
The time Michelle went missing, Elaine was supposedly on vacation in Hawaii.
In addition, there was blood throughout the...
vehicle on the front passenger seat along the doorframe in the back seat and across the floorboards.
The volume and the spread of the blood suggested that Michelle had been violently attacked and hadn't
survived. They couldn't immediately confirm that it was her blood. It was still awaiting testing.
The forensic team also collected hair samples and lifted fingerprints from inside the car that were
also sent for testing. For Michelle's friends and family, this was devastating. The hope that she
still might be alive was beginning to fade. So far, there were two major leads.
the security footage in the ID found inside Michelle's car.
Still, investigators needed more leads to actually move the case forward.
Inspector Ritchie began compiling a list of Michelle's closest friends and interviewed each one.
Nearly everyone had nothing but positive things to say about Michelle, except for Giselle.
One friend described Michelle and Giselle's relationship as tumultuous.
Inspector Ritchie visited Giselle at her apartment in Union City, around a 25-minute drive from Michelle's home,
and only 10 minutes from the hospital.
Giselle was apparently unconcerned
about the fact that Michelle had gone missing.
She also told the inspector
that Michelle wasn't the perfect person
that everyone else claimed that she was.
In addition, when the inspector asked
if their relationship was tumultuous,
Giselle almost laughed.
She explained that they were best friends
until Michelle's true color shown.
She alleged that Michelle,
her best friend, slept with her fiancé.
In light of this,
Inspector Ritchie asked Giselle for an interview.
view. At the station, Giselle explained that the three of them were really close in the fall of
2003, but Giselle was uncomfortable with Michelle being around her boyfriend, Scott, since the two
of them had a past, and according to her, flirting with each other. She then explained how Michelle
kept her pregnancy a secret from her and said it was Scott's child, but again, there was no evidence
that Michelle and Scott ever had a physical relationship, even in the time when they were casually
seeing each other. About a year after Giselle got back together with Scott because of their baby,
she discovered that Scott and Michelle had started talking again.
Although Scott insisted that the relationship was strictly platonic,
Giselle wasn't comfortable with it.
She gave him an ultimatum, either choose her and their child or Michelle.
In the end, Scott chose to cut off contact with Michelle.
Despite this, Giselle and Scott still broke up less than three years later.
After hours at the station, Giselle grew visibly tired.
She was also three months pregnant at the time,
which she said was also Scott's baby.
With no reason to detain her, she was allowed.
to leave. Inspector also interviewed Scott, who explained how it was his platonic connection with
Michelle that destroyed the relationship with Giselle. He was also still in touch with Michelle,
but the last time he heard from her was on May 28th, the day after she had gone missing. He had
gotten a text from Michelle's phone that said she was on her way to Reno and putting out fires
because people thought she was missing. Scott tried to get an explanation, but Michelle,
or the person pretending to be Michelle, never responded. By now, the forensic test,
had also come back. The blood in the car in the parking lot was a match for Michelle. This was now a
homicide case. Police only informed Michelle's family about this, but never revealed any other details.
That fact alone was disturbing for Michelle's family. Allegedly, they were treated harshly at the
police station. When officer allegedly told Michelle's brother Michael that he needed to get comfortable
with the idea that his sister was probably dead, Michael later reported, we were frustrated with
the lack of information.
But despite everything, the family refused to give up.
They continue to believe and hold on hope that Michelle was still alive and safe.
Speaking to reporters outside the Hayward Police Department on June 7, 2011,
Michelle's father, son Lee, said,
We will continue to hope and pray for her return until there is conclusive and definitive proof that she is dead.
We believe that Michelle is still alive and needs to be found.
If you call it a murder case, you have to have a body, but there is no way.
body. The family also took matters into their own hands. They launched a website, Michelle Leemissing.com,
dedicated to gathering leads and spreading awareness. Billboards went up and Michelle's missing person
flyers appeared everywhere. A $65,000 reward was also offered for information about Michelle's
whereabouts. Forty-five thousand out of that was donated by Turner Construction where Michelle had
worked for nearly five years. The family also helped create a Facebook page. That
page quickly gained popularity and people all over the world were doing what they could to help Michelle.
The same time, everybody feared what if Michelle were actually dead? Christine said, there's the agony
of waiting. If she never came home, what would we do? On June 9th, 2011, a candlelight vigil was
held in the same parking lot where Michelle had last been seen. Members of the community gathered alongside
Michelle's friends, some of whom had traveled from Vietnam to attend.
The family's experience with the Hayward Police Department was rough. They blamed
detectives for not sharing enough information, even suspected that the case wasn't given proper
attention because Michelle was an adult. Eventually, the family hired their own private investigator,
and soon after, detectives began collaborating with Michelle's family. Michelle's cell phone records were
also analyzed. Based on that information, a large volunteer search party swept through Niles Canyon
in the surrounding areas.
In the search for Michelle, a large bone was found.
Testing revealed that the bone was indeed human, but it did not belong to Michelle.
Meanwhile, Inspector Ritchie viewed the security footage again and again,
and it was then he noticed something bizarre.
It appeared that someone had been waiting for Michelle near her car,
which caught her off guard.
She seemed to sway slightly, but later she approached the vehicle.
That's likely where the attack happened.
The blood found in the front doorway of Michelle's car,
along with the bloodstains in the parking garage itself supported this theory.
Then there was the Samuel Merritt University ID belonging to Elaine.
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Since Elaine herself was confirmed to be vacationing in Hawaii at the time,
it only made sense that someone else had stolen her ID.
Spector Richie followed up on this lead
and spoke with the program's administrative assistant, Karen Casper.
Karen explained that the last time she had seen Elaine's ID
was the day before Michelle went missing.
Additionally, the hospital.
security system logged every door access using an ID badge, so the detectives could review
when and where Elaine's ID had been used. Detectives combed through hours of footage to determine
whether Elaine's ID had actually been stolen from Karen's office, and if so, how it happened.
Well, at roughly 8 a.m. on May 26, Karen unlocked and entered the front office. Not long after,
a woman walked inside and sat down on the couch. She had dark hair and was wearing black
leggings and a black long-sleeve shirt. The woman introduced herself as a prospective student
interested in the nursing program. She claimed she had an appointment with a student counselor.
When Karen stepped out of her office to locate the counselor, the woman briefly walked inside.
There was more than enough time to grab the ID from Karen's desk, but before Karen could
return, the woman had already stepped back out. At one point, she looked directly into the camera.
After reviewing the footage multiple times, Inspector Richie thought that the woman in the video
looked very similar to, as I'm sure you might have guessed by now, Giselle. But they couldn't say for
sure. What they could confirm, however, was that the same woman used Elaine's ID again later that
evening after hours to access the classrooms. Surveillance footage shows her attempting to open multiple
locked doors. At one point, she appeared to flinch when she noticed someone nearby. She eventually
entered a classroom where she was seen inspecting computers. Later footage, she appeared to be wearing
white scrubs and was visibly holding what looked like a class roster.
Even though detectives strongly suspected that the woman was Giselle, they still found it
hard to believe that a pregnant woman had overpowered Michelle.
They suspected that Giselle was accompanied by someone, and Scott seemed like the most likely
person.
Inspector Ritchie planned to bring Scott in for another interview, but before he could do that,
Scott called the station in a panic.
He told police that he had just found Michelle's white iPhone tucked beneath a
backseat floor mat of his car.
He was only worse than the suspicion of him.
How did Michelle's phone end up in Scott's vehicle?
In the second interview, Scott revealed a lot of information that helped explain
Giselle's deep animosity towards Michelle.
He said he no longer had any relationship with Giselle and only contacted her when
absolutely necessary, strictly in relation to court appearances and custody matters.
According to him, Giselle had been diagnosed with manic depression with psychotic features.
and that she also suffered from bipolar disorder.
Scott admitted that he had remained in contact with Michelle and had even met up with her a few times.
But Scott described his former relationship with Giselle as a nightmare.
In 2008, when the relationship ended for good,
Giselle was granted custody along with a moveaway order.
Scott frequently traveled back and forth to San Diego just to see his daughter.
Later, Giselle informed him that she was moving in with a new boyfriend and that their daughter
would be living with him also. Scott's strongly opposed of this, and in November of 2009, he filed for
full custody. By April of 2010, Giselle had broken up with her new boyfriend and returned to
Northern California. Scott explained that he attempted to reconcile with her during this period,
but just like before, it didn't work out. Around the same time, Giselle told Scott that she was
pregnant again and was considering terminating the pregnancy. She stressed that it was his baby,
but Scott never believed that.
According to Scott,
Giselle struggled with serious mental health issues
that made it nearly impossible for him to get through to her.
He also stated that there were seven years of domestic incident reports involving Giselle.
To give some context,
in 2008, Giselle reportedly swallowed an excessive number of pills
and physically attacked Scott.
There was a witness to this incident and Giselle was arrested.
Later that same year, Scott himself was arrested
after pushing Giselle through a doorway during an alter.
Their daughter was also present during the fight.
Jazele also once destroyed Scott's computer.
Scott further claimed that Jazeel would repeatedly threaten to remove herself from the earth
if he didn't respond to her calls or messages.
On one occasion, she reportedly called him crying, begging him to come over.
There were also incidents where Jazeel allegedly laid down in the middle of the road
and Scott would have to pull her out of traffic to prevent her from getting hit by a car.
Still, Giselle would get Scott arrested at times, claiming that he was a woman beater and the police wouldn't believe him since she had scars on her body, which she allegedly inflicted herself.
According to another report, Scott told authorities that Giselle had threatened to use a knife on herself and her unborn child.
There's no official record of who was proven guilty in these altercations as these cases were never prosecuted.
In addition, Scott provided investigators with numerous text messages, voicemails, and recorded conversations in which Giselle displayed extremely.
animosity towards Michelle and himself. Scott explained that he had deliberately kept these messages
as an ongoing effort to gain full custody of their child. Among the voice recordings was a
voicemail from November of 2010 in which Jazell once again accused Scott of sleeping with Michelle.
On February 17th, 2011, Jazeel asked Scott to meet her at a coffee shop. Scott agreed. At first,
the meeting was calm. But then Jazele claimed that someone had a big problem with Michelle,
and that she was going to help this mystery person find her
so they could disfigure her with acid or some sort of weapon.
Scott was horrified,
and he made it clear that he didn't want to engage in that conversation any further.
But instead of stopping,
Giselle lashed out and threw coffee at him.
Later, she begged for forgiveness,
played the victim card,
and said that she was deeply affected by what she described as Scott's poor choices.
That same night, Giselle sent Michelle a text, which read,
If you were really anyone's friend, mine or Scots, you would just fuck off and leave my family
alone, but all you are is a who has nothing better to do and follow me to San Francisco.
That's all you'll ever be, the who slept with other people's men and brothers because no one
wanted you.
You aren't my friend.
You're always just a parasite.
Another message was also sent to both Scott and Michelle, which read,
You two really do deserve each other.
I hope you get what you deserve.
You are both pathetic.
You, Scott, with no dreams or goals,
and the others chasing after someone else's dreams
because she has none of her own.
You are both parasites.
Michelle had better things to focus on at that point,
so she ignored the text.
The following day, Giselle texted Scott,
telling him that this wouldn't end until Michelle was gone.
She went on to claim that their daughter was already aware
that Scott had chosen his horror over her.
She also complained that Scott hadn't even given her
a birthday present because, according to her, he had spent his money on Michelle. But
Giselle didn't stop there. She also attempted to sabotage Michelle's relationship with Tommy
by messaging him directly and bringing up her version of the past involving Scott and Michelle.
Scott told investigators that Giselle repeatedly told him he should remove himself from this earth.
She accused him of driving her into insanity and said that he would suffer for it.
She also told him that he couldn't protect Michelle and that
she was actively planning both of their demises.
One important detail to note is that although Scott did see Michelle during this period,
he admitted that he always lied to Giselle when she asked about it.
In March of 2011, Giselle confronted Scott directly,
telling him that she had seen him meeting with Michelle.
On March 17th, she sent Scott a text that read,
FYI, she won't pass her midterms.
On March 18th, Scott went to Giselle's apartment to pick up some Girl Scout cookies.
Giselle had been told to leave them outside as Scott wanted to avoid any confrontation,
but she ignored that request and got into the passenger seat of his car instead.
Scott recorded that interaction.
The one issue that I really, really am having a hard time dealing with.
That's not what you said at all.
Yes.
Okay, well then fine, starting from...
Do you understand me?
Whether you sleep with her, whether you share food with her, whether you talk to her.
You will be honest with...
And you can take that to the grave with you.
Why?
Why? Because how do you deserve to die for your lies?
As she says she, and you will, is your last and final.
What?
Do you understand me? It's your last and final one.
Now, Shivi noted, if you didn't notice, that their daughter was in the car when she said all that stuff.
Include a little child in such a discussion.
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Just don't know exactly what kind of impact it might have on her.
Giselle also asked Scott in the car if he loved her and Scott blatantly said no.
Afterwards, Giselle started striking her face over and over again with her keys.
Scott begged her to stop since their daughter was watching her.
He even threatened to call the police.
However, Giselle told him to do it and that the police would arrest him and not her.
Sure enough, she was right and Scott was arrested.
The charges against him were dropped as they were in so many times in the past.
On May 20th, 2011, Giselle went to Scots to pick up their daughter for a
supervised visit. But even with a social worker there, things were far from smooth.
Jaselle walked right past him into Scott's house where he lived with his parents.
She made a fuss, but eventually left. However, Scott noticed that his keys were missing.
Two days later, Scott was woken up by his car alarm at around 8 a.m. He didn't notice anything
when he went to inspect his car, but as he was doing so, he was alarmed by his mother's screaming voice.
When Scott rushed inside, he saw Jaze. And justel.
Giselle was not supposed to be there, but that didn't seem to face her.
In fact, she was laughing.
Scott demanded that she returned his keys, but instead,
Giselle just laughed in his face and claimed that she didn't have them.
After she left, Scott realized that his keys weren't the only thing that had been taken.
His computer was gone as well.
After this, Scott decided to apply for a restraining order against Giselle.
Later, Inspector Ritchie asked Scott whether he had any contact with Giselle
around the time Michelle disappeared, and Scott said yes.
On the night Michelle vanished at around 1 a.m.,
Jazell had texted him asking where Michelle was.
Scott didn't respond as he was asleep.
The following morning, Jazeel was scheduled to pick up their daughter for a supervised visit.
Jazeel was once again brought into the police station for questioning.
At this point, investigators believe she alone was connected to Michelle's disappearance.
Jel said that she had called Michelle multiple times leading up to the day she went missing.
She reportedly had even sent her text.
messages but never received a response. Inspector Ritchie asked her the reason for the text,
Giselle claimed that was just to make sure Michelle was staying away from her daughter.
She claimed that her daughter would mention Michelle every now and then and that she had the
impression Michelle was going to be her new mommy.
Inspector Ritchie asked for the call logs of her cell phone for evidence.
Giselle became defensive and claimed she wouldn't have any of that since she sent her messages
to auto-delete.
She only had messages that she manually saved.
When asked what she did the day Michelle went to.
missing. Giselle said that she went for a walk in the morning, volunteered at her daughter's school,
went home to rest for a while, and later around 4.15 p.m. went to Kaiser Permanente, the same
location where Michelle had been working to ask about pregnancy coverage. Jadelle claimed that she
parked on the third floor because she was headed to the maternity ward. However, once inside,
she realized that the member services department was closed. According to her, she briefly used the
restroom and then left. Giselle also admitted that she saw Michelle on the pedestrian bridge at around 6.30 p.m.
When Inspector Ritchie asked whether there had been a confrontation between them,
Giselle became defensive and immediately asked for a lawyer.
The inspector said they had surveillance footage and could review it to trace her movements,
and Giselle claimed that she didn't remember the events clearly.
She said that she had been sleeping excessively and couldn't remember much from that time period.
She also attempted to blame this on her lithium medication,
which she claimed she had stopped taking due to her pregnancy.
When pressed, she said she didn't know the reason why she had been prescribed it.
Despite all this, Giselle claimed that she had no idea Michelle worked at Kaiser Permanente.
When asked what she did the following Saturday, Giselle said that she took her daughter to Chucky Cheese.
Shortly after saying this, she began texting on her phone and said she wanted to stop talking because a friend had advised her to do so.
After accessing her call logs, phone records, and obtaining a DNA swab, Giselle was allowed to leave.
Authorities were also successful in getting a search warrant for her home and car.
The detectives were clearly onto something, but they were.
needed more evidence, and sure enough, they were about to get it.
Jazele had made several calls to both Samuel Merritt University and Kaiser Permanente,
just days before Michelle had gone missing.
Inspector Ritchie reached out to both to inquire about the content of these calls.
The school administrator from SMU later told investigators that she remembered a woman
calling under the name Jamie.
The caller sounded polite and friendly, but asked for Michelle's home address.
She claimed to be Michelle's friend, yet she didn't have to be.
have the address herself. The administrator refused to provide that information. When the woman called
a second time, the administrator offered instead to pass her phone number onto Michelle. The caller,
however, said that she was using someone else's phone. The following day, May 26th, the same day
Giselle stole Lane's ID, she called Kaiser Permanente and introduced herself as Michelle. She claimed she
had just started an internship and urgently needed to know the instructor's name and where she was
supposed to report. Shell called again shortly afterwards asking the same questions. On her third
call, she changed her identity once more, this time pretending to be a skilled lab instructor from
SMU asking about nursing students and whether any of them would be reporting to the hospital
that night. Investigators had received another tip from a priest at All Saints Catholic Church in Hayward.
May 26, the priest had seen a young woman sitting alone on the patio outside his office wearing
white medical scrubs. She appeared visibly distressed. The priest asked if she wanted to go into the
confession room, the woman declined. However, she told him she was seeking forgiveness for something
she had not yet done. May 27th, the day Michelle went missing, Giselle once again called the hospital,
this time pretending to be an instructor from SMU. She asked to speak with Michelle. However, the name she
gave belonged to Michelle's former instructor. Giselle asked if Michelle was going to be at the hospital
at 7 p.m. The person who answered the call knew that instructor and had no doubts that the caller
was impersonating her. Giselle's phone pinged inside the hospital's parking garage on both May 26
and May 27th. On the 27th alone, her phone set 91 messages between 3.11 p.m. and 7.12 p.m.
Both Michelle's and Giselle's phones also pinged at the same location on the...
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The 27th.
At around 9 p.m., roughly around the time when Michelle's car was last seen at Kaiser Permanente,
Giselle texted a friend asked if he knew how to unlock an iPhone.
She claimed that she had found a white iPhone at the hospital pharmacy.
The day after Michelle was officially reported missing,
Jiselle went to an Apple store during a supervised visit with her daughter accompanied by a social worker.
Giselle told the Apple employee that her daughter had been playing with the phone and had accidentally locked it.
Employee then helped her unlock the device.
The social worker, Giselle gave a different explanation.
She claimed that the phone had been given to her by her brother and that she needed help setting it up at the Apple store.
For leaving, Giselle asked the social worker to drive them to chucky cheeses.
Around this time, Michelle's family and friends began receiving text messages from Michelle's phone.
phone. Social workers said that Giselle seemed unusually focused on the phone throughout the drive.
Around 3 p.m., both Michelle's and Giselle's phones pinged at the same Chuck E. Cheese location.
Not long after, Giselle claimed that she had left the stove on at home.
She left the children behind with the social worker and returned roughly an hour later.
She came back, she no longer had the iPhone with her.
During that same window of time, Giselle's phone also pinged near Scott's house, which
meant that she had planted the phone in Scott's car.
Nonetheless, investigators retrieved several items from Giselle's apartment,
searching for any clues or DNA traces that could provide solid ground for a conviction.
Giselle's DNA was found on the turn signal of Michelle's car.
Strain of her hair was also found in the car,
and Michelle's blood was discovered on one of Giselle's shoes.
This evidence was enough to arrest Giselle,
but without a body, it is hard to guarantee a conviction.
But leaving Giselle in the street was risky.
Investigators were concerned for the safety of Scott, his young daughter,
and Michelle's family.
Around the same time,
Giselle violated her restraining order
by showing up at her daughter's school.
She even attempted to enter one of the classrooms.
Scott immediately reported this to the police.
Finally, on September 7th, 2011,
nearly three months after Michelle's disappearance,
police arrested Giselle.
She didn't even fight back.
She didn't argue.
She showed no visible reaction at all,
not even asking why she was being arrested.
The rest was confusing for Michelle's family.
They had no idea that Giselle was the primary suspect,
and the idea that Michelle's former best friend
could be responsible for her disappearance and possible murder
was almost impossible to process.
However, once investigators brought the family into the station
and laid out all of the evidence, things began to make sense.
Even then, Michelle's family clung to hope.
They still wanted to believe that she might be alive somewhere.
They even increased the reward money to $100,000.
but that hope was shattered on September 17th, 2011, 113 days after Michelle was first reported
missing, and 10 days after Giselle's arrest.
One of the search teams combing through the canyon where Giselle's phone had pinged on the
night of May 27, 2011, found a severely decomposed body near a large tree stump located next to a
pair of white medical scrubs.
The skeletal remains couldn't be visually identified so they were transported for examination.
By the evening of September 19th, the Alameda County Coroner's Office officially confirmed the remains belonged to Michelle.
However, examinations continued as investigators still needed to determine the cause of death.
Unfortunately, due the advanced state of decomposition, a definitive cause could never be confirmed.
That said, medical examiners concluded that Michelle had most likely been incapacitated by a sharp force injury, possibly from a knife.
Meanwhile, Jazeel gave birth in November of 2011 while in custody one week before Thanksgiving.
The child was not Scots and was placed in the custody of the child's father.
On December 15th, 2011, Jazeel was formally indicted for first-degree murder.
She entered a plea of not guilty and her trial was scheduled to begin on September 17th, 2012.
Giselle's defense attorney was Andrea A.
While the prosecution was led by district attorney Butch Ford.
D.A. Ford was tasked with combing through hundreds of pages of evidence.
to ensure justice for Michelle.
Among that evidence were over 300 pages of text messages exchanged between Giselle and Scott
in regards to Michelle.
The DA's argument was that Giselle had harbored intense hatred towards Michelle for nearly six years.
The FBI also recovered data from her laptop, revealing numerous internet searches related to
Michelle.
Giselle had repeatedly searched for chemicals capable of causing a heart attack without leaving
a detectable trace, how to locate someone who does not want to be found, how to follow someone
without being caught and were to purchase potassium chloride.
Giselle's attorney, however, acknowledged that Giselle had killed Michelle,
but argued that it was not first-degree murder and instead voluntary manslaughter.
The defense claimed that Michelle had provoked Giselle, pushing her into committing the act.
Defense also argued that Giselle's text messages showed clear paranoia and psychosis,
which they claimed impaired her judgment at the time of the killing.
The trial lasted three weeks.
Michelle's family and friends were present throughout the proceedings.
Christine wrote about how difficult the trial was for them emotionally, saying,
Truth be told, the most exhausting parts of the trial are when the evidentiary facts
are being excruciatingly repeated in bone-dry format, cold and clinical.
When the defense is pating a suspected murderer to be a saint,
and our family has no choice but to listen on to their shameless attempts at garnering sympathy,
including their callous and merciless attacks on who we love.
They forget, I suppose, that we lost Michelle because she was murdered in cold blood.
I suppose they forget that while they are defending a monster who has future dreams and life goals,
it is because of her that Michelle will never get the chance to live out her future dreams,
pursue her life goals, get married, become a mother, spend holidays with her family, and laugh with her friends.
Her short living years were quickly and brutally ended.
But I suppose they forget that.
Eventually, a jury of six men and six women were unanimous on finding Giselle Estabon guilty of first-degree murder.
from December 10th, 2012, she was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.
She will be eligible for parole in 29.
Even though Jazele's sentencing was 14 years ago from the date of this recording,
the fact that she could be paroled three years from now feels far too soon.
It's not what's right, but it's the most that they can do.
And we're just glad that some form of justice has been served.
Michelle was a beautiful, beautiful person, and I think we continue to feel her murder may have taken away her legacy, or her life, but she will never take away her life.
And she'll never take away her legacy.
In September of 2011, the same month Michelle's death was officially confirmed.
More than 100 people gathered for a candlelight vigil at the Samuel Merritt University in Oakland.
The vigil featured musical performances, and the lawn was adorned with Burnton.
posters, floral arrangements, and photo collages dedicated to Michelle. Her brother Michael shared,
Someday I will be reunited with my mom and Michelle, but until then, I need to live a life
that would make them both proud of me. Her cousin Christine also vowed to keep Michelle's memory
alive, she said. Words will never explain how much I miss her and the pain will sit like a rock in
my stomach. Michelle will never be a mom. She will never be a nurse. She will never see her future. However,
memory and her name will see the future and will continue to be honored. SMU president Sharon Diaz announced
that there would be a scholarship in Michelle Lee's honor, calling her the quintessential professional and then some.
There is no public information regarding her funeral services. Her cousin Christine remembered Michelle
with the following heartfelt words. She was a granddaughter, a daughter, a sister, a niece, a cousin, a friend, a puppy mom, and she is missed
every day.
It's very difficult to think of a case that even compares to Michelle Lee's story,
because the whole motive behind her murder is just so petty.
Giselle was jealous of Michelle's relationship with the father of her child,
and she was jealous that Michelle had met and exceeded her career goals
and the very career path that she herself had failed at.
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and expectant mother who was thriving,
in all aspects of her life, only to be murdered by a jealous woman who wanted the unborn baby
that she was carrying inside of her.
