The Morning Stream - The MONDAY Show Pilot

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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Hey, you guys. This is a little special one-off take, or what I'm trying to say, a taste of what's coming, perhaps, for a little show we call The Monday Show. It's me and my daughter Carter. And I don't know. It feels like maybe you guys on this feed would enjoy. So I stuck it here in a couple other places. It'll have its own feed coming up soon. But anyway, if you enjoy it, let us know. Soon it'll be up on the website of frogpants.com slash Monday. All right. All right. Enjoy. Hi, everybody. And welcome to Monday. It's the Monday show. The Monday show. With me, Scott Johnson and Carter Johnson. Yes. She'll always be a Johnson until she's not. Until I'm dead.

When do you think that'll happen? No. I know you're not in a rush, right? You're not in some hurry to find some guy to change your name to. Some bow. Actually, let's talk about that. If you do that. I don't know if I'd change my name.

Really? Unless like a dude has like a kick-ass name. You know what I mean? What would it have to be? I don't know. I can't even think of like a good one, but like... Like, what's a kick-ass name? If I met someone who, like, had the coolest last name ever,

of course I'm going to take the cool last name. What if his name is also Johnson? Then you just don't do anything. Yeah, just stalemate. All right. Does anyone know any guys that Carter can date? Yeah. Because she's ready for your...

Preferably with cool last names. All right. For if you don't know who we are, I'm Scott Johnson. I run this channel. You're seeing the stream on or possibly hearing this podcast on. And yes, it will be podcast. right now it's just a stream and uh carter is my daughter of some many years i don't want to get into

the specifics because it's very i've been your daughter for a very long time as long as you my whole life as long as you've been around yeah you have been my offspring your spawn the fruit of my loins oh that's worse what's wrong with that fruit of my loins i hate that we all have loins very biblical we get very fruity with our loins and we create uh fruit you getting fruity with your loins dad no So we're, we thought that it would be fun to sit down and chat, have like, because Carter and I have conversations all the time that I think are fun and interesting. Sometimes we stream games too, but for the most part, we have really, uh, interesting conversations. We have a lot in common. She came out of the shoot with a bunch of my built-in personality traits.

With your ADHD. My ADHD and a little bit, a little bit of, uh, the anxieties and the whatnot. Yeah. So, uh, but sometimes we'll like go on a walk with the dogs and we'll have a, like a deep conversation about something. Yeah. And it hit me the other day. Literally anything.

We could have this conversation on the show, on a show or on some sort of stream. And we could get, you know, feedback and ideas and thoughts and comments and all that kind of stuff and do it on like a little weekly basis. Yeah. Might as well monetize our relationship. Is that what we're doing? I guess we kind of will be a little bit. I mean, that's not our main goal. No, we're just, it's for fun.

It's mostly for funds. It's a great way to like kind of vent and do something stupid. Yeah. Um, oh, Leslie says you can marry her nephew. He is almost 19. His name is Carter. His last name or his first name? Uh, oh, uh, I was like, last name Carter?

Hold on. No, his first name is Carter. His first name is Carter. So that's interesting because it'd be Carter and Carter. Yeah. What's his last name, Leslie? Curious about that. If it was Carter Carter, that'd be cool.

Would you do that? Would you allow that to happen? Uh, it would be tempting. Really? To just let it be Carter Carter? Yeah, just be Carter Carter. But what? I think it would be funny to be Carter Carter Johnson, too.

Oh, yeah, you could do that. Like with the dash. And they'd say, the new book, New York Times bestseller from Carter Carter, Carter Johnson. Carter, Carter Johnson. Or did you do C.C. Johnson's pretty good. That's a good. And I'm going to go to the C. Period. C. Period. C. period on the books. people love the HR Geiger and whatnot or not H.X.

J.R. Tolkien. J.R. Tolkien. J.K. G.R. Tolkien. J.K. Rowling. Rolling. Rolling. Whatever. And then you got your, who's the other one? The famous one. What's wrong with me? Lord of the Rings. R.C. R.C. Cola. What are you doing? Something Martin. No, that's George R.R.R. Martin. Yeah. No, I'm talking about.

That's Game of Thrones Yeah, what's Lord of the Rings? We already said. You did? Tolkien. Oh, see, this is a problem. Father. This is embarrassing.

It was a little embarrassing. How can you stand even be here? Anyway, so we thought that'd be fun. Now, we'll do it for about an hour. Yeah. We started a bit late today. Yeah, we got home. Kim made homemade curry, some kind of orange curry, not orange.

What would you call it? Red curry. Red, really? So there's yellow and there's red? Yeah. wait there's different sauces there's green curry red curry yellow curry uh there's green curry yeah what's in green curry i don't know it's just green i really don't i don't know what's in it it's usually like a little more peppery like green chilies okay they have those in india

like bell pepper kind of thing i have no idea i've never been to india you know how i know that i'm not gonna say why because what i was going to say wasn't PC for No, with further consideration, it may, to some, sound like I was being less than... What's the word? I don't know. Is dal... It's a cur... It's dal tadka, but I don't know if it's a curry.

What even is that, Dalca? It's like a lentil-style curry. Okay. I don't know. I like it. It's delicious. And lentils, for those on initiated, those are beans? Similar?

They're a legume. They're a legume. Legume. that's cool um leslie in the chat says uh chris is going to india for work next weekend i mean there are a lot of people i've heard india is really cool it is cool i'd love to go but just the worry i have is the worry you have traveling anywhere it's a food where you don't want to poop it's a let's get this out of the way it's a food toilet proximity problem yeah and quality of public services facilities because if i go over there and I get like a gnarly, I don't know, what would I get?

A kebab or, what do you do there? I don't know. What do you eat? Curry. What's a street food in Mexico? In India. I don't know. Does anyone in the chat know this?

They say don't drink water and don't eat meat, says Leslie. Well, just drink beer and vegetables. So don't drink water and don't eat meat. But what if you want, what if you want meat? No, that's your problem. All right, that may not happen. Find a toilet. Some people are just home bowlers.

That's me, Kenneth. That's what he says in the chat. The other thing I want to mention about this is we are going to take your live texts. If you have comments, thoughts, feelings. Oh, I didn't know those. Answers. We may even do some contests in the future. Like, hey, you want a free thing?

Here's how you do it. You just send us a text. I'll be monitoring those today. 801-47-106462. None yet, but I'm sure we may get one or two. Tell us what you think I should eat if I ever go to India. so that I don't throw up or barf or have diarrhea. All right.

Those are the things I don't want. Who wants to travel and experience that? Honestly, those are things you don't want at home either. Well, no, but at least you're in the comfort of your own home, and I know that it wasn't the meat. True. And it's not a parasite. As much as I inherited from you, I did not inherit your bowels.

No, you did not. And your problems with those. Because I can eat, I never have problems like that. So I don't think about that as much traveling, which is probably. probably not a good thing. Well, you always hear about people get the traveler gut, you know. I think I get that. I think I get weird when I'm on the road.

Like the stress. Yeah. When I went to China, it was a bit of that. But it was mostly while I was there. It wasn't really a plane or anything. But the best food I had in China was at McDonald's. Ooh, someone said roti. What's roti?

Tell me more. It's like a, we've had it before. It's like a sweet. It's not really a bread. It's very flat. It's almost a pancake-y kind of thing, but it's not cakey like pancake. I don't know. It's delicious.

I don't know what that is. Roti. Roti. We've had, um, we've had many. We've had many roti. We've had many roti. Is it rotis or rotis? I don't know.

It's delicious, is the point. Okay. And that's Indian? Yeah. Okay. Well, tonight Kim made homemade curry was what the point was. Yeah, someone said, it's like crepes. It's like crepes.

Oh, low tea? Rotee. Low tea. Low tea is low testosterone. Low testosterone. So wait a minute, what did mom make then? What is that? Just a red curry.

Mom made red curry. Okay. And it had like green peppers in it. It had potatoes, tomatoes. Carrots. Potatoes, tomatoes. What's that song? Chicken corn.

Chicken corn, sun greens. I can't remember. Too much TikTok. Too much TikTok. And it had a little bit of rice. I don't go too crazy on the rice these days. I did. I love rice.

You're a big rice fan. Rice is one of my favorite foods. Yeah. She thinks that the greatest running back in the history of the NFL was, what was his name? Not Jim Rice. Anyway, there's a guy with the last name, Rice, who was awesome. Yeah, there's a stadium called Rice Heckels Stadium. Yeah, right here or, well, up at Salt Lake.

Yeah, where you work. Where I work. Should we tell people where you work and what you do? Yeah, let's give them a direct address to where I work. Are you guys ready? We're going to docks Carter entirely. Not Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice.

Jonathan. Chat, help me here. Who am I thinking of? Yeah, the 49ers wide receiver, not running back. Wide receiver. He played when... I don't know any of this. I know, but I'm hoping they do.

And he went, the quarterback went to BYU, not Jerry Rice. Everyone's saying Jerry Rice. That isn't it. Gerald. Who played with Steve Young? It was like a big Steve Young. He was part of the Steve Young years. Now, Steve Young was the quarterback.

And he was from here. He went to BYU. But I don't remember who the running back, or the wide receiver was. So the two of them were just rocking it. And before that, he played with Montana as well. And he was like Montana's main go-to guy. Is it Jerry Rice? Everyone's been saying Jerry.

All right. Maybe it's always been Jerry Rice. Jerome Rice. Favorite kind of rice is Jerry Rice. It doesn't stick to the pan, so it's pretty good. So let's get to the meat of the day. here. Meat and potatoes. We got, oh, we got text messages if you read it and see what it says. Sure. This is Bill, aka a nerd nest. He says, hey Scott and Carter, you didn't inherit his digestive

issues. Yeah. Yet. Yet. I eat very healthy. Yeah. I eat a lot of- You eat pretty healthy. I eat pretty. Like my food is healthy. My snacks are less so. But I didn't grow up eating like Wonderbread and all the crap you grow up eating. Carter eats. Carter eats. or will eat without any hesitation a bag of circus peanuts and for those uninitiated we're not talking about like actual peanuts

I'm going to bring them up so we can show them we're talking about those pink circus peanuts or not pink what are they orange I just finished a bag otherwise I'd bring one over but Cirqueous okay we don't have to shame my gut we're not

I just want them to see what this is because a lot of listeners and viewers are going to be out of the country and I don't know if they have these over there they are delicious they're really good they're kind of, I wouldn't call them a marshmallow, but that's like the closest approximation. I don't know if I'd call them delicious.

I might call them horrifyingly bad for you. Regardless, I also am vegetarian, well, pescatarian, so I eat fish, but mostly I eat a plant-based diet. So I, I'm just saying I have a leg up compared to you. That's true. I don't, I like meat and that's just the way it is. There it is. You guys see that in the chat room?

It's a big, can you see it? I can see over there. You can see it sort of. Okay. So those are what they are. Now, normally you just get the orange ones. Sometimes they're yellow and white. I've never seen other colors.

I've only ever seen the orange. What flavor do you think those pink ones are? Probably strawberry or something. I don't know. Circus peanuts have such a specific flavor that is no... I don't know how to even explain it if you've never had them. Yeah. Because it is just circus peanut flavor.

Yeah. They're not good for you. Nothing else tastes like that. It's just pure sugar. No, it's just sugar. It's such... Refined, awful sugar. It's sugar to the point where, like, my dog ate a bunch by accident

because I left a bag open and she got into them and it didn't affect her at all. She didn't bar for nothing. She didn't bar if she didn't have any problems like pooping, nothing. That made no sense to me. It's like alligators and marshmallows. Because she eats too much, you know, chicken and she'll throw up. Yeah, she's real sensitive. Yeah, she's weird that way.

So the fact that she didn't get any sicker than that is crazy to me. Nerdness says they're banana flavored. The yellow ones are? I assume so. Okay. That's weird. So let me show it again. So the yellow ones look like, they do look like banana flavored something.

Yeah. The orange ones are the ones you get. Or just circus peanuts. The white ones are like, what do you suppose those are? Like, just nothing or vanilla? See, I can kind of taste it. I can kind of taste it. Like, I've had one.

Yeah. And I don't remember why. They're delicious. I don't ever dare eating one of these. These will kill you at my age. You can't eat them. Real peanuts. No problem.

Let's do those. I'm going to burp. I just want to point out, despite eating these things, I'm very healthy. I just got back to from the doctor like a little bit ago. I did too. And guess what? I'm in all the right ranges now On everything

What did we do to deserve that? I don't know You eating a giant bag of sunflower seeds didn't help Those are salty Me eating a whole thing Whatever I had the other day I can't remember I ate something stupid Probably

I'm trying to be better overall And it worked Like for the last six months I did up my game some Not as much as I could But enough to get me in all my happy ranges And I'm really glad about it Yeah

So we're walking the other day day, Kim, Carter and I, and taking her dog around, which is kind of a nightmare. Well, I want to explain why my dog is a nightmare. Explain. Really fast before we get to that. Go. She is. First, she's a Wymer Riner, a rescue.

Wymor Lab mix. Yeah. She's a big old dog, though. She could go hunting. High energy. Shoot a duck. She'll go get the duck. That's that kind of dog.

She's the biggest sweetheart, though. Yeah, we love her. But she is really reactive on a leash, only on a leash. And she loved other dogs. So when she sees another dog while we're walking while she's on. a leash, she freaks out because she wants to go play with that dog or smell that dog or whatever. She doesn't even want to hurt it or bite at or fight. No, she just wants to like meet it.

And when she does, she's totally fine. She chills out. She's great. But if she can't, and often it's like with littler dogs, usually owners don't really want, they're smaller dogs near her because she looks so scary. Yeah. She will lose her mind. And like, she does this scream bark.

That's the worst thing ever. Oh my gosh. And it's just awful. Yeah. So walking her is a normal bike. Where did she learn the scream bark? It's freaking horrendous. It's horrible.

Can we train that out of her and like stop that? We should try to record it one day because it is the worst. It's so bad, you guys. But yeah, so walking her is a bit of a nightmare. But it wasn't bad this time, luckily. So, yeah, it wasn't bad. We took a route, we took a path that wasn't as populated. It had almost no dogs on it.

And we live by this lake where everybody wants to walk their dogs. Yeah. We usually do too. And it's fine. It's nice. Well, the paths are so like thin. Yeah. You're going to have to run it.

You have to walk in the mud or go out. in the late you know you gotta avoid it's a hard so we took this way that nobody ever goes and that made it easier and we got to talking about big events in people's lives and how they remember them but often their kids have no context for it so for me well we were talking about like how the pandemic will like van really my my nephew won't really remember it because he's five now and he so he's born right before pandemic started when he was like a year not to be a year old he was one i guess he was a year yeah because 2020 and he was a year old he probably won't remember any of it, but he'll be told about it for his whole life, probably.

Oh, yeah, it'll always be a thing that comes up in the same way. World War II. Yeah. What do you call it? What's the attack? Pearl Harbor. It'd be like Pearl Harbor for a certain generation for my generation, 9-11, for... Yeah, like it's all, yeah.

Yeah. So we were talking about this, and you said something interesting, because we were just talking about how that had a huge impact on me and your mom... 9-11, yeah. 9-11, but your brother, who was a year old... Who was a year? Just like Van, you know, ahead of the pandemic, he has no connection to it, really. Yeah.

Like he doesn't, he's not going to grow up and go, oh, yeah, 9-11, oh, never forget. I mean, he's not going to do that. I mean, he may, he'll have sympathy for what happened and he'll think about the tragedy. I'm not saying he's not capable of that. Yeah, like, similar to like how you see Pearl Harbor. Yeah, same way, because I see Pearl Harbor happened not in my lifetime well before it, but I understand it and appreciate it historically, but I have no like, Like on the ground, oh my gosh, what's happening?

You don't have that. You don't know, like, personal connection to it, really. Right, neither does he for that. So we were talking about that, and you were four. I was four years old, and I don't remember, like, knowing about it, but I do remember we got home early because I was in preschool, and they sent us home early, and I don't, you know, you're four years old. You have no idea what's going on.

Yeah. And you guys, I remember you guys sitting in the living room in our old living room and talking and, like, being kind of stressed out and kind of hushed and quiet. Yeah. And like, like, you just seemed really worried. And I remember that so vividly because it freaked me out. Yeah. I was like, something's wrong.

I don't know what's wrong, but something is wrong. So you remember how freaked out we were, but you don't remember. I mean, you don't have any details to why, right? Okay. At the time, because no one's telling a four-year-old. Like, no. So this thing happened. But I just remember you guys being all hushed and like nervous.

Yeah. It really scared me. It was a little intense. It was like, I mean, that's what we were most worried about. we were like, we don't know what this is or what's going to happen or how far this is going to go. And then we were thinking about, well, what does this mean for our kids? Like, that's the first fear you have. Of course.

And I'm sure you guys sense that, whether you remember it distinctly or not. But you're weird because you remember stuff. I have a really crazy memory. Yeah. She remembers things when she was like one year old. My siblings will make fun of me and be like, you don't remember it. You're just making it up. And I'm like, no, I remember.

They don't believe you. No. I know. But then like, you guys will be like, oh, yeah, that happened. yeah yeah no like when you went to mississippi when you were like a year you remember that beach you remember the whole thing yep i remember catching spiders outside of the above ground pool and you're only a year old that's crazy i wasn't a year i was older than that uh weren't you i was like five i thought you're like a year old no what do i know um i'm pretty sure year old your brain isn't ready to

have memories but when i was two i mean that's the idea is that little kids i can't form memories until a certain age. But when I was two, I have a very distinct memory of my parents getting into a fender bender, nothing serious, but a car accident. And because it was 1971 or something, there's no seatbelts. And it was not so weird that you would have your kid in your lap in the front. It should have been weird, but it wasn't. And my mom had me that way. And my dad just rear-ended somebody and I flew forward and smacked my head on the dashboard might be why I'm also

a little but I still have a little scar you can't see it on screen it's impossible but if you get up close you can see it I still have a scar from it and I remember blood I remember my hard I did and I remember my mom flipping out your grandmother

and just panicking just freaking out and my dad going oh now calm down Donna everything change can be fine. It's all fine. It's just a little scratch. He's had worse. He's had worse. He doesn't need stitches. And we didn't take me in or anything. We just kind of brushed it off and moved on. I think today, if you didn't take the kid in, you'd be considered like you weren't. That was like negligence. Like you're doing a bad job. Yeah. Yeah. It was a 70s. It was. And that was a weird time. But I don't think of it as a, as a, that's the word I'm looking for. It wasn't like a scary. event in my life. Wasn't like trauma. No trauma at all.

To me it was just weird. It was like, I think when you're that young, yeah. Like everything's weird. Even normal stuff is so weird that your brain just is like, yep. This is just how the world is. Do you still do that now at all with stuff?

Are you too old for that now? Why am I asking that's a terrible? I don't understand why. I guess what I mean is like, do you have, do you have anything in the world where others freak out about it and you just kind of go, yeah. Spiders? Oh, you don't, yeah. She loves spiders.

She wants to save them all. Yeah. If there's a heaven, and we all get to go there. They're good things. We're going to get up to the gates, and there's going to be a man made entirely of spiders. He's just a... Have you ever seen Spiders Man? No.

The Marvel thing? No, I have not. So they made a very short-run comic book about... It was kind of a what if. Yeah. And it was a dude made entirely of spiders. So this is what I picture. So instead of a spider man is spiders man.

Multiple. And what I picture is this spider's man-looking dude at the Pearly Gates. saying some of the spiders did you kill during their time on the planet, right? And we're going to have to answer for this. So Carter might be on to something. She might be the right one. Yeah. The rest of us are like, spish, squish, squish, squish.

Spiders men will accept me. Yeah, but you've got, if I could, I'm just going to guess here, but I'm guessing you have saved, at least temporarily, um, a few hundred insects of different kinds. I have no idea. Got to be, though. maybe like if you I don't know I I'm the one who in the house if there is a spider like my mom will find one in the kitchen or whatever yeah she'll just be like Carter come get it or I'm gonna kill it and I'll run in there with a cup and just like get it outside before and does the cup do the job or do you need like I don't know what's the best way to catch a spider in 2024 here's my instructional guide tell us everything you know I just I literally grab a cup this is what YouTube's for by the way you need real good information here Yeah, you grab a cup, put it over the spider, try not to squish any legs, especially if it's like a big one.

Yeah. And then you just like take, usually I'll grab like an envelope because they're a little thicker and just like slide it under and scooch it. Okay, that was my question. Do you put up, you scooch paper under it so they have a fake floor. Yeah. And then tip it. Yeah. But what if they fall on their head and are tortured horribly by what you've done? I guess I would never know. I guess you wouldn't. I also, if I know what kind of spider it is, I'll put my hand over. it if I know it's like fine so you don't have daddy long legs and stuff if we had a tarantula you do let it crawl on you and stuff tarantulas are venomous no they're not are probably not no yeah they are no they're not pet pet ones get it like removed so that they can't hold on be poisonous I was I was sure that the I have to look it up now it might be different kinds but I know that most

tarantulas are tarantulas venomous okay let's find out some facts Facts. Time for facts. We're going to learn some facts. Some arachnid facts. Here we go. That was all pictures. Gross.

Let's see. Tarantials rarely bite and other facts about friendly spiders. Here you go. You're ready? Tarantulas are quite docile and rarely bite anyone. That's number one. It says a tarantial bite to a human is often no worse than a bee sting in terms of toxicity. Okay.

So they are venomous, but like not bad. Not very much. He says this big, beefy spider strike fear in the hearts of an, uh, an, uh, a arachnophobes everywhere, but in fact, tarantulas are some of the least aggressive and dangerous spiders ramp. Here's your next one. Number two, they defend themselves by throwing needle-like hairs at their attackers. Ooh, like a little porcupine.

Yeah. Not cool. That's so cute. Oh, I love that. Not cool. Just kidding. I didn't know that. And I love these things.

Here's one, a gender thing. Female tarantulas can live up to 30 years or longer in the wild. So you would be right to say this because they need to live. right? How long do they live in captivity? It says here. In captivity, some species have been known to live for over 30 years. Males, on the other hand, don't live very long once they reach sexual maturity with a lifespan of just three to 10 years on average.

So the women live way like the women. So like there's a female tarantial out there that's older than I am. Yeah. Lady spider's older than you. Think of that. There was a spider born somewhere. There is a spider born before you were born. Somewhere there's a turtle born before any of us.

Oh, yeah. Like anyone on Earth. Think of, well. Any person on Earth. Anyone living, yeah. Yeah. Not like the history of humanity. But maybe, who knows?

No, it'll be like, what is it? Like a maximum of 200 or something for those? There's a whale that's like 200 years old right now. Yeah. But it lives so deep that it's like half frozen. It's all cool. So if they were born 200 years ago, what year is that? Help me.

A hundred years ago would have been 1824. So 1724. 1724. No, 1824. Oh, yeah, 1820. 19. Yeah, 18. We gave it an extra 100 years.

But imagine a 200-old turtle when it's born, the state of the world versus now. There's actually, I can't remember if it's the oldest turtle, but there is a picture of a tortoise that someone took, like, the earliest photographs of. And we now, like, it's still alive in, like, a zoo somewhere. And so he has photos from, like, 18, whatever. That's cool. It's really neat. Yeah, I like that. I think turtles are cool.

See, those I don't mind saving. Save the turtles. Save bugs. Bugs are good. the bugs. I only have a few exceptions and one of them is black widows because they're actually dangerous. Oh yeah. So you'll kill a black widow? Or you just will let it go on its way? It depends. If I can, I will try to get it, like, I'll catch it and like try to release it somewhere that's just like a field or something. Yeah. Yeah. But if like little kids are around and stuff,

I will get someone else to do it. I like that this is permanently on the internet and whatever you decide. I will call a hitman. Okay. I see what you mean. That'll work. Is she your favorite character in the MCU, Black Widow, because she's a spider? They're going to say Hitman. And I was like, that's a video game. That is a video game. Agent 47, in fact. Oh, do we mention that Carter, Carter has a degree in video games.

I don't know if anyone knew this. And not just, we don't mean playing them, okay? A lot of people get confused. I tell them that. What does she get her degree in video games? I mean, like, she's like a pro player or something? I have a Bachelor of Science in Games. Right.

Which is a thing at the University of Utah. And a number of colleges and universities around the country now have. have similar programs. And here's the fun part of Carter's degree, in my opinion. She got it exactly when the pandemic started. And then she has it now where job losses. Jobs are horrible right now. Greatly outnumber job gains in that industry.

Yes. So as much as the overall economy is doing quite well, if you're looking at the games industry right now, it's in the turlet. Yeah, I graduated in 2021, which was a terrible time for games. And then it kind of got better and it's gotten worse. Like, it's not, I'm, yeah.

The timing wasn't great. I mean, it's not your fault, obviously, but what would you have done different? Nothing. You're just, this is how old you are, this is what you did. Well, technically I took too long, like I took two extra years.

So. Yeah, but if you, yeah, that's true. If I had graduated on time, it would have been 2019. And maybe I would have already been in, industry. Yeah, but maybe you're one of the layoffs that just happened. That's true, but at least I'd have a foot in the door. Or the door shut really hard and your foot's still there and it cut your foot off.

I no longer have a foot. Now you're footless. Footless. Everybody cut footless. The point is, I do have a degree in games. I know how to some kind of sort of make games. My emphasis was on the art side. So I know a little bit of code and I can make it like a,

real base thing, but I am not an engineer by any means. No, I mean, I don't know, I think, see, this is where you and I argue sometimes. I think Carter could be all of it. You could be a single point. Given unlimited funds and time, sure. Yeah, but these guys, like the Starty Valley guy didn't have unlimited funds or time. He just worked on his, you know. He was just highly motivated.

That's a key. You got to be motivated. That's true. But I think, I don't know, I don't think, okay, this is just me talking. And obviously I'm biased because I, this is what I did with my life, where I didn't, I stopped working for the man and I only work for this idiot now, meaning me. And while it took a while to get there and there's a lot of ups and downs about the whole thing, I cannot imagine my life any other way.

If it became more feasible in terms of like money and stuff, I would 100% go full-time making a game. I just think you're going to get there. But it's just weird now. It may not be right now, and it may be a while from now, whatever. But I think that there's going to be a time in your life where you're like, all right, I got this cool experience behind me. I did these things.

I was on these projects. Yeah, that would be wonderful. And now I'm Carter, the machine making the stuff. Machine making the stuff. Because now there's never been a better time for that. The tools are there. Yeah. The skills are there.

I will say going back to like the whole, you know, a lot of layoffs. One good thing that comes from these layoffs, and I'm not like saying that it's great that this is happening to anyone. Of course not. But one of the really cool things that happens when there's a ton of layoffs is that little companies are born. And this happens every time there's a big thing. And it's because like these teams who've worked together on these games go, oh, we're friends. We know how to do this. Let's make something. Yeah. Yeah. And so you actually get like really cool new games out of it, but it also sucks. Yeah. It does suck. It's a weird time right now and I feel bad because you worked really hard on that degree and and you know all this stuff

and there's some stuff going on maybe with something will happen but I don't know I just hate it just ever onward yeah but she's got a good job at the U in that department working with those people and uh those people those people those game people you know people nerds nerds game nerds which is kind of fun because you're around a you know a bunch of game nerds yeah no you like that stuff So I think, okay, let me ask you this. I've never asked you this. Uh-oh. What?

I'm scared. You've never asked me this. Oh. That's like, you're like, oh-oh. Do you think, let me ask you this. Why games? I'll try to stutter through that four more times. Like, why do you think that happened?

Do you think it was because this household and your upbringing, they were always around? Directly to the moment I wanted to play games. Really? Yes. Play? or make games. Or make games. Okay.

It was the first time I played machinarium. Oh, that wasn't that long ago. That was... 2012, 11? Look it up. Yeah. Whoops. I feel like it was older.

Let me look it up. Because I feel like I was like 10 years old or something when I decided like that's what I want to do. Macanarium. Let's see. I love that game. That game is 2009. You're right. So I was 12.

Yeah. That hit home. 12, I played that, and it kind of made me realize, like, oh, I can draw, I can make a game. Yeah. And so I actually, like, can point to the moment that that happened, and it just so happened that the university I went to had a really cool program that was, even, like, at that time, right? It may have been a little bit later, but they, for a really long time, we're, like, number one

in that whole degree, and it was all brand new. and like this crazy, cool new thing. So I was really lucky to be able to be like, oh, not only can I go to school for this, but I can go to school, like, just right over there. Yeah. A little bit away. It's really cool that game. If you guys are listening or watching, I haven't played it, play Machinarium.

It's cheap everywhere. It's really fun, a little puzzly, like. Yeah, it's point and click, but the art style of it and the kind of the vibe of it is probably what got you the most, right? It's this cool, like, cutouty kind of vibe. I don't know. Yeah. But I loved it.

Yeah. That's a good one. I mean, that game's inspiring for even people who aren't making games. That game's rad. Yeah. I think it made me see games as art beyond just like, like for, because for a really long time, I played, you know, Nintendo. And, like, I was exposed to, exposed.

Exposed. You were exposed to Nintendo. To, like, World of Warcraft and, like, all these games that just, like, existed. But this was the first one that I'd seen that was, like, truly weird. Yeah. For the time. That's true. They were raised on, I mean, you guys were exposed.

to just every kind of game there was. We played everything. So it's interesting that that's the one that got you. There's something about it that just made me go, ooh, I can do this. And maybe it's also because I was 12 and I, like, was starting to think about that stuff. Have you already played it?

You've already played that game more than once, right? Oh, yeah. How many times? I have, uh, probably like five or six. Five or six times. Yeah. Not anything crazy. I've bought it three times.

I had it on the, let's see. Where did I have it? Not the switch. Freaking. Oh, the Sony Vita. Oh, yeah. I had it on PC, and I got it on something else.

iPad, maybe. Back in the day, I had like an iPad 3 with that on there, I think, something like that. It was on the computer for me. Well, that's a, so you've answered quite well there. Nicely done. Here's a couple text messages we've been getting as we've been going here. We got one that says, spiders, killed them all with fire, L.O.L. Just kidding, Carter.

And that's from J.K. Grammar. J.K., spiders are good. You're going to get to meet him in Vegas. They eat all the lovely little bugs that you don't want in your house. Speaking of which, Carter's coming to Vegas. Yes, I am coming to TMS Vegas. It's going to be fun. It's over my birthday.

Mm-hmm. So bring me presents. You're going to get that cozy, comfy, backseat car ride for five hours, whatever it takes us. I love road trips. I don't drive. I don't know if anyone knows this, but I don't drive. She doesn't drive. I don't have a license.

So I love road trips, but I always feel bad because I'm like, let's go on a road trip. I can't drive. So tell them why you don't drive. So because they're going to want to know. They're going to ask. You don't have to say. Let them ask. If you don't want to know, it's not a big deal.

She doesn't like it. She hates driving. I hate driving. She went through the process of, you know, getting her license when she's 15. Not my license, my permit. Yeah, your permit. Never got my license. So if you're wondering what she does for ID now, you can get a state issued ID that's just swapped orientation.

It's the worst because, so before you turn 21, that's how licenses look. Yeah. So whenever I go to a bar, like a restaurant that requires ID or whatever, they always double check. And they're always like, what is this? Wait a second. It doesn't look like you're 21. And I'm like, it's just an ID. It looks like dark magic. They see it and go, wait a minute, this isn't a drive. This looks fake. Yeah. It was worse when I went to Vegas last year because every, what are they, whatever, the checkers, every checker was like, what is going on with this, especially because it's not of state ID. So what do they do? Take it in the other room and...

Well, most places nowadays have just like a little scanner that they put it in. Well, you're going to meet him there, J.K. Grammer and his fiancé, or did you guys get... Did you guys finish the deal? Finance. I can't remember if the wedding happened yet. Whatever. You'll have to text us back and tell us. Here's another one.

I like this live text stuff. It's fun. This is him. Again, says my birthday is on May 5th. So we'll be celebrating our honeymoon. moon and my birthday on TMS Vegas. So he'll be married by that. Oh, that's so fun.

That's so cool. I just can't remember how that went. Here's one. This one just has great show so far. That's very nice. Thank you so much. I don't know who that is. It's a rando person.

And we got one here from Jim Jensen. You know Jim. Yes, I know, Jim. Brings me. Cokes. Zero drink products. Dr. Pepper's and such. Because he's always so nice.

He finds him on sale somewhere and says, hey, you want all these. It's often a weird flavor, like they're trying to, like, push out. That just, like, didn't do well. Yeah, we got Dr. Pepper Bougar flavor. You want 12 packs of that? I'm like, well, how much is it? And it's like, well, they're down to like four bucks a case. You could have chosen any flavor in the world.

Than Bougar? Then Bougar. You could have said Circus Peanut. I wouldn't drink that. Ew. Excuse me. Are you all right? Yeah.

I'm drinking root beer, which is the worst burping. I don't know why I chose root beer for this. Yeah, she has a. Can of, uh, hear me see. Barks. Wait, let me show you on camera. Can of Barks. Best root beer there is.

Best root beer there is. The one from the south that's caffeinated. The real one? They don't make a zero or I'd drink it. I think they do. If they do, I've never seen it. Well, I guess mug does it. Mug Rube does it.

And A&W does it. But I don't like either of those brands. I don't know if Barks is. Someone tell us. It's the only good root beer that's readily available. I know that there are plenty of like regional root beers or places. You can go where it's like, oh, that's the best root bear. I get it.

There's a place downtown, by the way, in Salt Lake City called Feldman's. That is a Jewish deli. And it is super good, but they have their own root beer. That is fantastic. Oh, this morning on TMS, we brought up that vegan place you guys ate. Oh, Buds? Buds? Not Mel's.

No, Buds. Buds sandwich shop. Yeah. And you're saying they're really good. I got to go. Really good. I don't know why I got that name wrong. It's a vegan Sammy place.

Vegan Sammy. Vegan Sammy. I love it. Delicious. Anyway, I didn't ask his question. Jim asked. Oh. Are you still working with Corinne at the U?

Yes. Sort of. She's a professor now. She is a professor. Our offices are next to each other. When she used to be the person that Carter would answer to, she was like in charge of whatever that department thing. Yeah. And then she moved up to being a full-blown professor.

So she teaches like narrative in video game classes. Yeah, she teaches all that kind of stuff. And I didn't know your offices are still right next to each other, though. That's cool. Yeah. I like how much closer we're getting to doxing me. Oh, yeah, we kind of are. I've known Corinne my whole life.

We didn't need to bleep some of this out in the final. No way. I'm not editing anything. Some of it. I'm not going to edit anything. I might do it. We didn't use her last name. She's fine.

Look, I've known her since. I'm just like you can Google a lot of things. Yeah, it's just the U. It's the University. Everybody come visit the U. No, don't actually do that. Don't, please. They have heavy security at the U.

Yeah. So don't go there. Yeah. they have electricity things they have electricity laser beam guns you're screwed don't even try it we have like we have like a jib-d-d-d-d-dip yep all righty-a-a reactor that's the word do you guys really have a reactor yeah it's up on the upper campus so hold on is it a legit like nuclear reactor yeah but what's it reacting to they actually have it's shut down right now but when is it but they do have it but when is it up I assume it's like an emergency thing.

I don't know. I would want to know more. I used to work in the building that it was in. And every time there was like a fire alarm, my coworker would always be like, we're all dead. This is it. Does that freak you out that idea? That it's, I don't know. I think it used to.

These days, I'm like, whatever. That's kind of nihilistic of you? Well, I don't know. It's just like, like, the pandemic kind of made me just like. Oh, I know what you mean. If today's the day. I did the same thing. I feel the same way.

It's like it left me tired. Tired, not like in a, I don't know. It's hard to explain. Yeah, I can't explain. I'm less stressed about what I can't control, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Same stuff I can't control. And also I cannot be forced into caring about a problem I have nothing to do with.

Yeah. Way less than I used to. Like, I used to get really wrapped up in, that's an injustice. I need to. And now. But, like, if I can't affect it, I'm not going to stress over it. There's lots of things, like, you can do a lot for things like injustice or, like, whatever. Yeah, to help other people.

I don't mean that so much. But I just mean, like, if a nuclear reactor goes off, what am I going to do? Yeah, if that thing melts down at the U, what are you going to do? Yeah. That's a good point. It's not like you can affect it now. What are you going to do, go over there and go, can you guys turn that off? But we should actually get rid of that?

Yeah. Can you not have that at the university? This thing that costs you probably millions of dollars in grant money. Yeah. Can you get rid of it? you guys are currently what used to be the law building but you might move soon you're not moving to the nuke place are you just getting closer and closer to oh did i do i'm trying not to do location things we need to we need to cut some of this the reason i was going to bring that up

though is because uh ted bundy went there yes so serial killer uh man ted bundy yes went and studied law yeah that's crazy i know people who knew him what do they say to you they say I knew him. That's it? Yeah. They have lunch and, like, hang out. Yeah. Like, I've talked to professors who are like, yeah, we used to, like, go to the sandwich shop and, like, chill.

Well, but, okay. I don't know. That's weird. It was just a guy for a while. To a lot of people. These would have to be really, these would be old people, though. Yeah. They're all old, old law people.

Old law people. The old law people. Yeah. All right. I just always thought that was interesting because he went and did one of his horrible kidnappings right behind my favorite record store when I was in high school.

Oh, yeah. You know that record store just recently closed? It was like 2020. Oh, really? Yeah. Greywell? No, not Graywell. It was Raspberry Records. I think they were gone before.

Oh, they've been got, yeah. Graywell closed like pretty recently, which was sad. I loved Raspberry. I'd get all my tapes there, and they were only like seven bucks. And I'd go, I'd walk in there, and I'd walk out with like two Pink Floyds and an ACDC tape on your average visit. I loved it.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. And it was like exactly what you think, like very culturally a record store. Like dude behind the counter, super hippie, probably hiding his weed somewhere, whatever kind of guy. That's the best kind of record shop. That's what you want. Always talking about their favorite bands and why this is cool and why this isn't. Or he spent last year traveling with the, not the Wicked Dead.

evil dead no not the evil dead no that's a game the movie the moving dead what are they called walking dead the grateful dead the grateful dead goodness gracious that actually hurt we just lost brand self that actually hurt me to go through that process just now uh thank you jim just blowing up with grateful yeah they all they all know how dumb i'm being uh we got another quote here text. Oh, he's getting married

on March 16th is another update from J.K. Graham, right? Congratulations, dude. That's awesome. Here's a text from Wicked Kitten, aka. Monica. That's the other way around. Monica. AKA is the nickname, right? That's if I said. I think it, either way. Does it matter? Yeah, I don't think it matter. Well, hold on.

Well, because, like, you could say, like, my boy, aka Jared. Oh, yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? Like, it's your boy, Jared. that's funny anyway she says my mom loves circus peanuts i think they are abhorrent love you anyway carter smiley face wicked kitten 13 you're wrong yeah and she should go to Vegas i would love to see her there yeah come on monica make it work make it happen make it work what you make it happen get out of new jersey yeah if we build it you then you'll come then you'll come monica will come

let's try this one this is another one we got just now uh oh here we go don't no name on this but They said, Carter, have you ever considered board game design? I have in school designed a couple. Like with a group or whatever? Yeah, usually just for like an assignment. So they're not very good, but I'd consider it. You should. Then we'd have two, well, three tabletop games in the family.

Yeah. If you count, if you count rock runners. But you should. We should do, you know what? You should help me with, I'm thinking about doing a version of dungeon murder. but calling it space murder. Oh, so like a sci-fi version? Yeah, but not just to re-skin.

Like, I would rethink a bunch of mechanics that are better space mechanics, I guess. I think you're just re-skinned. Maybe I am. Like, instead of a goblin, it's an alien. Something like that. Martian. I really like, oh, Matt Merrill's in the chat. Do you remember Matt Merrill?

Who's Matt Merrill? Neighborhood back in West Jordan. You know him. You, in fact, let's see, which one of his kids would you be the same? me, Jayz. Yeah, I'd probably know that. But he, I still talk to him here and there. He's one of the nicest guys ever. I guarantee if you saw him, you'd go, oh him. Probably. But I'm awful with names. Because he's one of the nicest human beings that you've ever met. You just don't know it. No. No. Space orcs, says Chris Tibbo. Interesting.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to do with that. I may do that. But Carter, maybe that's the thing you would work on. Maybe that's the thing you could do. I'd love to do that. That's what the people are saying. It wasn't, was it rock runners that I, I did, uh, yes, you did alternate cards. Yeah, I did all the girl cards. Yeah, the girl versions of the, um, of the character cards. What did we call the character cards, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, and those were great. Those were really fun. I didn't really have anything in dungeon murder that needed excess stuff, but, um, maybe I would in the space one, I don't know. Perhaps. We'll see. We have other projects going on. We have a lot.

Yeah, we're working on a book and it's for real. Yeah. Uh, that's happening. soon. Oh, one thing I wanted to promote before I forget about it. I am going to write it. I'm writing it. She's doing the art. Yes. I'm da. Epe, baby, baby. Okay, look at this. On the frogpants store, frogpans.com slash store is the new listing for something called the zombie set by me. I want you guys to go grab it because it's limited time only, limited quantity. This thing's usually about a $25 thing. It's only $10 with free shipping. Okay. Free shipping.

That's very exciting. You get five, or sorry, four, five by five prints. What can I think of words today? I don't know what's going on. I don't know why I'm doing that. Anyway, it's a zombie collection. We got zombie SpongeBob. Zambob?

We have Zambi, which is zombie Bambi. Zambambi. Zomambi. We got George Dekay. Do you get it? Oh, that's so good. Do you get it? I didn't get it.

Like, I didn't, I didn't get it before? You never called it that. Oh, I thought I did. And so, like, that's so cute. I don't know what I did there. Anyway, George Decay and then I also, the blocking dead. I did do that one. With the, uh, the Lego figurine guy, who was also a zombie.

Anyway, five of these, all on a set, plus maybe some extras thrown in there. We're trying to decide what those are going to be. Something cool. Um, and this is also going to be the first time that my daughter, Taylor is handling the reins of a bunch of store stuff. Yeah, this is like our first. shot with that and she's excited to be the person who does that so we're going to have a lot more sort of personal touch to things she's awesome she runs my store which is currently not up because we're working on it yeah but she does really cool things and like she's she's great

she'll she'll add cute things and make them look nice oh yeah she knows how she's her her touch is what I'm looking for here and she's very good at it that's something I need to improve big time on the store so that's what we're doing I'm going to check real quick make sure they're still in stock. I believe they are. There are. I'm incredibly distracted by the jellyfish on your screen. On my screen back here?

Hold on. They're very distracting. Look at them. Look at him. He's just going, doot, do, do. He's a little guy. Yeah, it's just a little guy. Just trying to get along in the world.

It's not his fault. Oh, yeah, we still have some in stock, but they're going quick. So if you want one, grab them. Ten bucks is all. Cheap. That's really cheap for four, five by five? Yeah, too cheap, really. But I wanted to do like a.

losing money on this deal? I probably will break even, but I just, I wanted to give her a first project and have it be relatively simple in terms of production and also have it be cool and meaningful. So if you want your own,

now is the time. Here's the actual graphic, everybody. Here you go. Just go to frogpants.com slash store and you'll see it right there. It's the limited zombie print set. Oh, and they're all signed. Personal signatures.

Yeah, yeah. anyway will you draw a butt on just like one of them and then whoever has the butt one oh i see and then they can they maybe they get something else like an extra thing it's like it's like those rappers on stuff stup stup stipps stippa bivabbers you know the one that like if it has the star then you get an extra you get a free sucker no they don't do that anymore but they did that when i was a kid what were they dummies no they were um dummies no um tutsie wrote, Tootty Pop. Tootcy Pop.

Tootty Pop. Tootty Pop, free star, I don't know. Okay, let's look. You could take them back to the gas station and it'd give you a free one. Oh. Can you really get a free Tutsi Pop if you find the star? It used to be true because we did it a few times. It says long believed rumor of childhood ever since then.

Since it was created in 1931. Geez. Oh, wow. It was widespread myth that the rappers, which depicted a star shooting from a bow, an arrow of a Native American man could get you a free Tutsi pop. Okay, another way to keep down the indigenous peoples of America

by putting them on our side. Move on. It says here, let's see. But with modern conveniences such as the internet, most kids didn't go all Nancy Drew on the local five and dime to interrogate the shop owners. So on the rumor went,

slightly unattainable promise. Blah, blah, blah. Oh, we hate to be the bear, bad news, but a Tutsi roll industry spokesperson confirmed to the Today Show on the air that the company has provided a clear message on its website for nearly a decade disproving the legend of the star does not exist. Well, we would go to our gas station in our old neighborhood whenever we were like, I don't know, I was like probably nine years old.

We would always go and get the Tutsu Pops. Yeah. And we'd, everyone would pull out and check the thing. The thing is the Native American dude could be shooting the bow, but the star wouldn't be there. Okay. That was like the thing. like, oh, it has to have both. It has to be the star.

Oh, I didn't realize it was that picky or any of that matter. It was supposed to be, like, super rare. Anyway, me and my friends would go all the time, and, like, at least one of us would always have one, and we'd go back and probably teenager at the time that the thing would always give us a free one. Maybe it was just our gas station. Maybe.

Which one, the one over by the thing? It was by the ice cream shop. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like that one. I got a lot of powdered donuts there. Yes, you did. Which is probably why now I have to watch my,

Yeah. Intake. Yeah. One final tarantula note that we didn't discuss. This is important. All right. They don't spin webs. I knew that.

But they do produce and use silk. Yeah. For what, though? So they'll, they like, you can, you can usually see where one is because, like, the grass will be all shiny with web. Oh, okay. That's interesting because it does say they use it for the interior and exterior of their underground burrows. They manage to make this material into, uh, structures that strengthen the earth and walls.

Oh, so basically they're just building, building little houses. Yeah, also those like three to ten-year-old males that says they weave silken mats on which to lay their sperm. Spermette. Is there a more uncomfortable word for your father on a podcast to say than sperm? Yeah. I could think of a few, but I'm not going to say them. Okay, good. Don't say them because I don't want to know.

Also, they wander around during the summer months. They just hang out, wondering. That's where I found that one that got eaten by the praying mantis. You would have been pissed at me for what I did at my experiment. You would have been mad. I would have been so mad. But I was like eight or nine. I was a kid.

I have a bunch of dead bugs over there. Gross. They all died naturally. Here in the office? Yeah. Why? Because I want to pin them. Oh, really?

You're not going to do that, though. Yeah, I am. You know what? Do that jacket first. Okay. Next time we do one of these, we'll have a discussion about that jacket you're working on. We'll talk about jackets.

It's a whole thing. It's a whole topic, you guys. I think it's going to do it for us. Let me double check. We'll have more bug facts. Any other messages here before we go. Looks like we got a couple. We'll rip through these real quick.

Julia says hi and that Carter having a degree in games is really cool. Chuck and I also say hi and look forward to meeting Carter in Vegas. That must be Amy. Hello. Thank you, Amy. And Julia is your daughter, I think. I remember right? She's in college now, though, I think.

Ew. Not college. We're all old. What are we going to do? How about this one? Have either of you heard the Tracy Chapman performance from the Grammys last night? It was awesome. Not yet, but I've been hearing amazing things.

I mean, dude, Fast Car is one of the greatest songs ever written, period. Agreed. But from what I hear, this is like jaw dropping really good. I'm going to take you right away. Get out there like a main star or something with a baby to me, brother. I'll bet it was better than that. It has to be. Don't you think?

I don't think. Yeah. I'm going to check that out for the show. How about this one? Oh, Sarah, this is J.K. Gramer again. Sarah loves dungeon murder. I kick her butt in that game all the time. Well, good.

Bring it to Vegas, and I'll rock your world, and I'll play you guys. You'll probably beat me. I'm not that great. And then here's one from Mike Pacholic. Oh, he's the nicest guy. He always sends cool stuff. Yeah. You know this name.

He sent me a giant spider. Oh, that's right. He does. He knows what to listen for. He says, hey, Scott, or Carter and Scott. Scott, you can now read the parasite art book. Also, I'm trying to set up my trip to Las Vegas. I would love to meet up with you guys in person. Well, we'd love that. Yeah. So hold on a second. That art book, you have it. No, you have it. I have it. It came up this morning on the show and I'd forgotten all about me having it. It's right there. It's right there. yeah right there hold on this is embarrassing this is embarrassing this is this morning we were talking to schliker about it schliker's like oh you gotta see this god it's so cool it's like oh you know it's the whole movie but done and his um his the director did all the what do you call this storyboarding storyboarding and uh it's late i can't think um and i was like no way and i kept and it was like constantly during this conversation day familiar the whole time but I'm like oh yeah that'd be something I want to pick up how

much is it I'm looking at prices like that is so familiar you have it it's right here I remember it because you it was on the kitchen table because it was in a package or something and I was looking through it I was like this is so cool yeah I can't believe dad got this and you were like yeah it's mine yeah it's mine get away from it and then I but then I hadn't seen but I hadn't seen parasite yet and so I was like well I can't look at this yet do you want to know what's worse what I have not seen this total off shoot I have not seen the newest Spider-verse movie, the second one. And I have the art book.

Oh, what is wrong with you? And it's over there. We need to watch that. I haven't even opened the book because I'm like, I can't look at it until I watch the movie. Why don't we fire that up this weekend? We should watch that. Do you and your friend have plans?

I have no idea. She watched Fury Road with us. Maybe she'll watch that with you again. She's seen it. You know what? Next time, you should write this down so we don't forget. next time I will tell the story of how I almost saw Spider-Birds. Oh, yeah.

Because it's a pretty good story. Yeah, the Netherlands, baby. All right, well, that is going to do it for us. Thank you all for listening. That number is available offline, too. So we want to leave us a message and we'll read it next episode. You can do that, 801-471-0462. There will be a website up for the podcast version of this on the website called frogpans.com

Slash Monday. Yeah. It's not there yet, but it will be. We should make cute art for it. You should do it. I'll make cute art for it. Sure. Okay.

Carter's in charge of album art. The video version will stay up online, so you guys can all have access to that and stuff. And, you know, it's just a chill thing. This isn't meant to be super hardcore, crazy structure or anything like that. We're just vibing. Just vibing, hanging out, talking about stuff and enjoying you guys being around as well. Everyone is here to tell me that I sound like my mother. Yeah.

And I think I'm probably going to post this up. to the, oh, Phil just said it. That's funny. Up to the diary and the, uh, the skim feed. I might even put it on TMS. Just let people know that it's out. All right. That's, uh, that's it. Thank you all for listening. That'll do it for us. I have no outro music yet because we haven't thought of that yet. Let's just sing, uh, fast car. Do you have a fast car? I've got a guy to get us out of here. Someone took the convenience store and put something inside my beer. Everybody get ready. It's time to get into the fast car. car again. I don't know. I mean, like, this just gives everyone a peek into my upbringing.

I mean, it was pretty... It was all this. It was pretty accurate. Anyway, you guys are great. Be good. Be safe.