The Morning Stream - TMS 2047: This Stream Does Not Exist

Episode Date: January 7, 2021

The Scott always lands butter-side down. I knew Via Getty and you sir are no Via Getty. I Don't Like Rioter Peeeeeeeeeeee! Stifler's Mom's Son. Wood You Like To Build a Satellite? America Is Funny Aro...und The Edges. A Pair Of Undie-Bundies. Use a coaster on my satellite. Hit Them in the Shinto. Tossed salad and rubbed in butter. Does Your Johnson Spark Joy? Yo Quiero Peewee Hermano. Membrane Of Familiarity. All that space junk in Earth's trunk. Therapy Thursday with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 A pair of undy-bundies That looked like uncle, didn't it? Yeah, Uncle Bundys. Uncle Bundys Hey, use a coaster on my satellite Hit them in the Shinto Toss salad and rubbed in butter Does your Johnson spark joy?
Starting point is 00:00:49 You care o Pui Hermano Membrane of familiarity All that space junk in Earth's trunk Therapy Thursday and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. This truck is called an F-350 Super Duty Lariat Turbo Rebel 6.7L power stroke B-20. Do you think that guy's fun to hang out with?
Starting point is 00:01:10 You want me to say the words? The morning stream, the morning stream, the morning stream, the morning stream, the morning stream, you can't spell the morning stream without Remonstrating, this is the morning stream. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the morning stream.
Starting point is 00:01:38 It is Thursday, January 7th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. I'm joined today, shockingly, by Brian Nibb. It's shocking. I know. What a surprise for everyone. Hello, my goodness. Wow, can you believe it?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Look what we've done. We've somehow made a really rare thing happen today. that the two of us are here. What is happening? Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's been a real fun 24 hours here in the United States. Just having a blast here. And, you know, we can no longer say first world problems.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Because at the moment, we have a bit of a third world one. And it's not the kind of thing you usually see here on U.S. soil. We're not going to talk about it all day. But I'd be lying if I said it didn't affect our day yesterday. Good Lord, I know. Yeah, I was in the process of doing. doing some tech stuff here that had my machines shut down and doing other things for a while and turned stuff on early afternoon and was just floored by what was going on.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You probably got just clobbered by that because if you were blissfully unaware, that must have been crazy to see all that. It totally was, exactly. But I watched it kind of in real time, which I don't even normally do. I just happened to be because I was interested in account. I was interested in the count which they had started proceedings for
Starting point is 00:03:00 and I just wanted to see how that process worked so I had C-SPAN on a stream of C-SPAN of all things which is normally you know Boringtown USA.com
Starting point is 00:03:11 but for whatever reason take part in the process just want to see how it works I've actually never watched one of the counts before so I just thought well I should watch this one this one is a big one
Starting point is 00:03:19 and so it started going and then they were like we're adjourned according and pursue it to section whatever mics went off. The stream actually said, because I was watching on the stream, the stream when they went off the air said,
Starting point is 00:03:32 this stream does not exist. Oh, wow. How very Matrix. Yeah, it's very Matrix. Lawrence Fishburn come on and say that. Some IT guy in their little video department's having a good laugh at me. But anyway, all that, then all this stuff happened and it was happening in real time.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And then I texted you and they're like, oh, I've been working on this stuff. And let me try. Oh, shit. Exactly. And then I started going kind of back. through Twitter a little bit, and between you and Richard Marks, it was basically like... I love how you follow Richard Marks. I think that's great.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, it's funny because... I don't follow him, but I think it's great that you do. He's a little too... He's just a little too... How do I put it? He's just really... Okay, let's put this way. On a week where... Let's say it's a day where I don't want to worry about anything, he's always worried
Starting point is 00:04:24 about everything. So he's always yelling at me, and I'm like, I don't know, Richard Marks. This is a little bit of the pot calling the kettle light gray. Oh, yeah, yesterday. Yesterday, I couldn't be stopped. There was no stopping me. Yeah, but on a normal day, I agree with you. Yes, Richard Marks is, I'm just saying what I'm trying to say is you do that, but certainly
Starting point is 00:04:46 not to the degree that Richard Marks does it. Oh, yeah, he's into it. Nobody does it to the degree. Anyway, it was dumb. It was a dumb day. And that's the least good words I could use for it. It's a bad day. Yes, but I hope that dude gets to take his loyal order of the water buffalo headdress with him to prison.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I really do. I hope they allow for him to have that. He shows up on every photo because why wouldn't you show the shaman guy? You know what I mean? I mean, obviously he knows this. like any good cosplayer knows, if your costume is out there and contrast with everyone around you,
Starting point is 00:05:28 you're going to get all the photos. And sure enough, freaking uh, Q-in-on shaman guy, or whatever his name is, um, the best part is,
Starting point is 00:05:38 this is actually kind of funny. Because that's what we do on the show. We try to find the edges that are a little funny, right? Yeah. Yeah. There's some, there's this thing going around where a bunch of people think his name is via Getty. And they're saying,
Starting point is 00:05:51 look out for via Getty. you see any other online activity this is the man we're looking for in the in the shaman outfit uh we've learned his name is via getty that was never his name somebody started that because the image of him came from getty images and they wrote in the article via getty oh that's and so all these people like legitimately thought that dude's name was via getty for a long time and no matter who told him it's like dude no it's freaking via getty images like gile it must be french that's totally it that's totally it. A real-life version of that
Starting point is 00:06:25 freaking fragile thing basically is what happened there. Oh my God. People are dumb, but whatever. So Kim and I did a thing we've never done before and this may have been a mistake because it leads to the other thing I want to talk about. Okay. Stayed up till 1.30 or so. He smoked some pot. Yeah, we smoked some weed. No, we didn't do that. We stayed up until like 2 o'clock in the morning or something. Watching
Starting point is 00:06:47 the process. Again, never really seen it. And I was really curious, like, how does this work? And then also, how does it work with some objectors? And that certainly happened in the past, but never witnessed it. I want to see how that stuff goes and how do you respond and who argues what and everything. And boy, howdy, is it repetitive? Like they just kind of have to say, oh, the state of Missouri submits a bird to dirt to dirt. It all looks freaking good.
Starting point is 00:07:11 What do you think about that? Okay, we're good. We're certified this and that. Any objectors? None heard. All right, moving to the next one. And you got just Pence up there rattling these off. And then occasionally Alabama or somebody would go, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:07:22 We object to what happened in Nevada, even though we got shit all to do with that state. We think he should stay right. Well, did you guys sign it? Well, no. All right, moving on. And then everyone claps. It's like this very strange experience, but we were up watching it. It was all very intense.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And we were also just like the whole time thinking, man, like three hours ago, some Wackadoo was sitting up at that front of that thing with his arm in the air and his phone taking a selfie. Like, just behind you there, somebody was shot on that other side. They found pee. Somebody peed. Oh, no. Did somebody really pee in there? Yeah, somebody peed all over the place in the house chamber thing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yet here they all are. And I guess they're, you know, something to admire about everybody getting back to their post and getting the job done. But anyway, so we're up way too late. Finally go to bed. Here was my dream. Are you ready to interpret it? I'm ready. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Okay. You appeared in the dream, but you had no major role in it. But you appeared. Okay. So was, was I, was I, was I a bee story or was I just an extra? You were an extra looking on, but looking very serious the whole time. Okay. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Okay. Wow. So here's what happened. Dr. Frazier Crane. Paid roll. Is this a paid roll or am I, is it just scale? Ah, 50 bucks or something.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Okay. It's from my reel. Craft services. My demo reel. Yeah. You get food. There's like a bread roll thing or whatever. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Sorry. So, I know you're good. So there's Dr. Frazier Crane. Now, it's not Kelsey Grammer. It's the character, Frazier Crane, played by Kelsey Grammer, but it's, it's not Kelsey Grammer. It's him playing the character of Frazier Crane. So he's all suited up.
Starting point is 00:09:00 He's got the early mullet thing he had in the early seasons and the late, late year seasons. That, like, I'm going to have as much hair as I did when I was young. I'm just going to shove it all to the back. Exactly. Now, for some reason, he and Sean William Scott, you know him. It's Stifler's, too, Stifler. That was it, Stifler's mom's son. Stifler's mom's son, but not playing Stifler or any other role, he's just Sean William Scott.
Starting point is 00:09:28 He's actually Sean William Scott. He's there with Dr. Frazier Crane, right? And these two are, this is the weird part. Oh, this is the weird part. Yeah, this is the weirdest part. I'm sitting in a stool or on a stool. Sitting in a stool sounds like a poo. I was not sitting in a stool.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm sitting on a stool, stripped down to nothing but a pair of undie bun. right uh-huh uh and they were Sean William Scott was rubbing me down with with melted butter like just how just like scrubbing me down with butter okay and it was warm butter like it was really tangible like it was gross so he's rubbing me down with butter while Dr. Frazier Crane was walking around me and giving instructions to Sean William Scott
Starting point is 00:10:18 uh while he's doing this but he was walking around with a pair of tweezers and some sort of eye magnifier, kind of like lodge it in your eye, a monocle style, but it was more like a jeweler's eye because it had length on it. And he would walk around my body and find little hairs and pull them out, but it only could be an area that had been fully buttered properly. And that's what he was yelling at him for. It's like, this area is not buttered properly. And he'd come around and fix it. And then he'd pluck out a hair and say, all right, we've got three. And he'd put it in a thing. And he just kept doing this, like rotating around me, looking at all the
Starting point is 00:10:50 angles trying to find all these little hairs to pluck and you were standing off to the side staring at me the whole time just staring at me that tracks i think that's exactly what i would be doing were i really in that situation listen at any point did uh frazier crane offer to toss your salad and scramble your eggs no but i'm really glad he didn't given the state i was in that would have been i would have taken that the wrong way had he oh yeah that would have been that would have been too far that point yeah i'd really really I really don't know what to make. I'd think after watching, you know, a bunch of freaking thug idiots attack the Capitol building and get in there somehow.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Boy, that security is pretty great. You know, for a second here, let's just mention this. Sure. Are we that, are we all that shock now that Nicholas Cage figured out a way to get the freaking Declaration of Independence out of there? It seems like it's not so hard. Like all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Gary Oldman getting past security onto Air Force. seems pretty viable. Yeah, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That North Korean guy slip it into the place while Aaron Eckhart's none the wiser. It doesn't seem that hard anymore. Anyway, so I thought after
Starting point is 00:12:04 watching all of that and just seeing, you know, so many of the images and being just, I'm just pretty worked up about it. Then we stayed up late watching the proceedings. You'd think my dreams would be filled with that stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:15 That's what I would have expected. Exactly. Yeah. But it wasn't. Is Dr. Frazier Crane and Sean William Scott, of course, together at last, buttering me up, pulling hairs out while Brian watched. It would have been, I would have guessed that your dream would have been watching
Starting point is 00:12:29 the late great John Candy dressed up as a security guard saying, oh, no, folks, you can't come in here. Oh, no, all right, well, you're going to have to turn around and go. Oh, no. That would have been cool. I would have taken that. I like that version of John Candy, so I would have been down with it. But it was real dumb.
Starting point is 00:12:47 It's a bizarre. I can't even make it. heads or tails of that dream. All right, let's see here. So what is the underlying... Yeah, what do you think that... How are you feeling during all this warm butter? Does it feel normal to you? Or is it like, you feel like you're only doing this because Frazier Crane is demanding it? Like, what's...
Starting point is 00:13:06 Okay, so am I an active... Am I a willing participant in the buttering and the pulling of hair? Because that's really what, really what it comes down to is in your dream, how do you feel about what's going on, tells you more about what it, what's happening in your real life that's making you feel like this, right? Because if you feel trapped by Sean Williams, Scott, and Frazier Crane, then that means
Starting point is 00:13:29 you feel trapped in real life and you're somehow... Right. Well, okay, so I can tell you that it didn't feel like this was against my will. It felt like I was a participant in that I was just sitting there waiting for the process to be done. The feeling of it was, oh, it's like getting a haircut or
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm getting a, you know, about to get a facial, sit still, we get a hot towel, you know, like all that. You're just, I was like at a, what do you call that? Like a spa. It was like a spa time. And it was, and it was, why I say that is because it's different than say my wife give me a haircut, which is the most chill experience in the house. Like, no big deal. Kim does it. It's whatever. I go take a shower and I'm done. But when I go to a place, or if I ever went to a place, I've never paid for a haircut. But if I had, there's a little bit of like, not tension, but there's apprehensiveness because these are strangers and they're
Starting point is 00:14:16 during your hair for the first time. And you're still pretty chill. And you're there on purpose because you want a haircut, but it's not like these are family. You don't really know these people. So there's that one little wall of like, you know, whatever social distance. Yeah. That's a bad word this year. But, uh, you know what I mean? Like there's a, there's a separation there. A separation of familiarity. A mentalizing or whatever. Exactly. And so, yeah. So, but I didn't, so I did feel that, but not any kind of like under duress or any of that. Here's my theory. Yeah. So if, uh, if you're, you're, uh, dream, you know, the, The disc jockey that spins your dream every night is kind of looking through the day's greatest hits.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And he's flipping through the album saying, nope, can't use that. Nope, that one's not going to work. Oh, God, no, don't want to have that one in his dream. I don't know. Here's this Dr. Demento record. Let's go and just put this crap on. That's basically what your dream was last night. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:09 You know what? There was nothing else the F to do. I feel like you're probably correct. Like there's nothing to suss out here. I think it's just I talk to you all the time. So you being in a dream, isn't that weird? I'm just glad I wasn't doing the buttering because that would have made this the last episode of TMS.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Good point. I will say this. This is an important thing to mention. Frazier has been on lately because Nick's been watching it. Okay. And he's been here while his apartment's being looked at to sell or to get out of his lease so he can move to Minnesota. So he was watching Frasier the other day.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But I didn't sit and watch an episode or anything. I just heard Frasier freaking out because of something happened to the station. But the Sean William Scott, when was the last? time that that uh exactly never we talked about people with multiple names multiple first names and sean william scott dude's got three first names he's an outlier for sure uh um i haven't seen any movies or tv or anything with a minute so yeah hasn't hasn't come up in film sack in a while i don't know that's a that's a really weird one i mean i did watch an episode so this is the thing that it reminded me of when i woke up i watched an episode of what we do in the shadows and one of
Starting point is 00:16:14 Nick Kroll's vampire cronies, or I'm sorry, three of them were called Neil Patrick and Harris. Really? Oh, that's great. It's possible. It's possible I somehow, because I laughed really hard at that. I saw that yesterday. I laughed really hard at that.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I just thought that's a really funny way to break up Neil Patrick Harris's name and give three vampires each one of his names. And it's a really funny moment. And it stuck with me. So maybe a three named actor thing stuck with me and then you get to Sean Williams. I don't know. I don't freaking know. Anyway, the mystery continues. Chat room, it's your job now.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Listeners at home, send us an email. The morning stream at gmail.com. You tell me what's wrong with me. You know, speaking of people rewatching television shows, I have been, as I mentioned on the show, my comfort food lately has been community, going back to community. Which I got to say, is not the, I mean, a low. the show. I think it's one of the best sitcoms
Starting point is 00:17:17 of all time. You already loved it. You loved it. I already loved it. But, boy, I was reminded about how how uncomfortable a lot of the stuff on that show gets. You know, I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:17:33 these seven people, because I'm still in the seasons where there are seven people. Does that know, that means no Chevy Chase yet? That means Chevy, no, that means Chevy Chase hasn't left yet. Oh, that's right. Because he was there the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, he was in there from the get-go.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Right. But they're always on the border of hating each other, with the exception of Troy and Abed. Right. But it really just takes, like, one thing to kind of make them all flip and go nuts on each other. Like the monkey Annie's boobs, who steals one of Annie's pens in one episode. And it turns into, like, this 12 angry man. I'm sure there's actually a better comparison of, like, you know, people locked in a room.
Starting point is 00:18:16 No one can leave until they figure out and everybody kind of turns on each other. But if you have not seen community, and this is out there for everybody, it's on Netflix, check it out. And absolutely, as you're watching it, look in the background at the weird crap that's going on in the background. There's like a, they plan these things out for such a long time. like a mention in season one of Beatlejuice. And then in season two, they talk about Jeff's underwear being black and white stripes like Beetlejuice. And then in a Halloween episode, Annie mentions Beetlejuice again.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And just as she does, a guy walks by in the background in a Beetlejuice costume, meaning that's the third reference to Beetlejuice. And that's pretty great. That's what he shows up. That's like the seed planted for multiple seasons. that finally pays off. And it's amazing what these guys do. And it's the Russo brothers, too.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Oh, yeah, I forget how much they had to do with that, right? They were directing tons of episodes and... The pilot and, yeah, a lot of the early episodes. Who knew they would freaking become what they became, but it's, that's a... I need to go back and watch again. If it's all on Netflix, I have no excuse. Why don't I just do that? I should do that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah, it is, it's so good. And, um... I think you convinced me. Yeah. I'm going to watch. Yeah. It's good comfort food, and it's so damn hilarious. And, you know, maybe you stop at season five.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Maybe you stop at season four. I don't know. When did Harmon leave? Is it four? Or five? Harmon left in a half. Season five, I think. Oh, yeah, Alikar points out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So there's this episode where they're planning a surprise party for Abed. It's all Pulp Fiction. They rented a diner and got a diner and everybody's dressed up as different Pulp Fiction characters. And Jeff has the job of getting Abed to the surprise party and so they're having dinner and Abed's not taken the bait
Starting point is 00:20:21 like he's basically wanting to have this meaningful conversation with Jeff about this experience he had going to the Cougar Town set which was his favorite show before he found Inspector SpaceTime and getting to be an extra until he pooped his pants and had to immediately run off
Starting point is 00:20:39 didn't they end up doing crossovers on Cougar Town as well? They did a crossover of an episode of Cougar Town where Abed is the Danny Pudi is an extra in the background
Starting point is 00:20:50 who is like looking directly at the camera at times and gesturing the same way as busy Phillips and then all of a sudden gets up and runs out of the background because presumably he pooped his
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's like such a brilliant show is so freaking meta and then the Cougartown was also very good, by the way. Cougartown was actually pretty funny. I've never seen it. It was good. You'd like it.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's like, um, I just watched it for that clip of Abed. It's not bad. I thought I wouldn't like it. It's like it reminds me of a rest of development sort of. It's a, just that kind of comedy. Anyway. Okay. Oh, I'll check it out.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Sorry, you were about to say the best episode. I was going to say, and then the best episode of all time is the, um, chaos theory episode where, uh, it all centers around a role of a die to see who's going to go meet the pizza guy and they keep experiencing the same the same thing six different ways depending on which one of them leaves the room and how different things happen yeah i love that that that is some that's some rick and morty stuff he was working it is it absolutely is man you know that's that's exactly like the uh the gestation of rick and marty yep pan harmon it is it is most primordial all right well i'm going to watch it again because you have convinced me
Starting point is 00:22:13 watch it again. You know what I'll do? I'll finish up. As soon as I'm done with this, I'll finish up West Wing. And by finish it up, I mean watch more than just the first episode. You have so much ahead of you. I'm so excited. I love that show so much. You're going to love it. All right. We're going to do a fun thing today. By popular demand, also, because I like it, we're going to add someone to the call right now. And I thought I had it all set up and I don't. So let's see if we can figure that out. Here we go. We're We're going to talk about a really weird thing that popped this week that has nothing to do with politics, and it starts after this. I think science is cool.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Welcome to the program, Bobby Franks. Bobby, welcome to the show. Hey. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hey, what's going on, Mr. Science, man? Nothing really happening in the world, so you're probably just sitting around thinking about science all day yesterday. It's fine, right? No problem. Yeah, it was really easy to find science headlines because those were the only headlines. That's all you could find. It basically is just talking about, oh, who's a pick for the Emmys in 2021 and science. Science.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah, exactly. And what are the science of picking people for Emmys? That's all I could find. Well, I'm glad you're here because it turns out there was. And it's a weird story. And I actually heard this or saw this somewhere and said, you know what? I think I'm going to put this in the TMS lineup. And then you talked to me and I went, no, this is perfect for having you on and talking about it.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So tell me about these satellites. that are made of a material that you might not expect to be made into satellites. Yeah, so let me ask you a question. Before we spoil the punchline, I guess, because I do think this is kind of a joke. And I'll get to that in a second. But what do you think satellites, like what do you think needs to be considered when you're making, deciding a material to make a satellite out of? Well, something that would do well.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Well, I wanted to biodegrader. Wait, Brian's on to something. Hold on a minute. My first thought is something that is durable, can handle a little space debris that will be sturdy and stay in orbit. As light as possible, so it takes very little fuel to get up there. Yeah, exactly. One that isn't going to just fall apart and crash to Earth a week after you put it up. Or that if it does, it does it in a way where it burns before it hits the ground kind of thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I mean, actually, it's funny because I've never really thought about it before. I just assume satellites are like, oh, well, they look like this. They have a few little dishes on them or like those panels. Well, fortunately, there are engineers and scientists who spend a lot of time thinking about it. Oh, that's good. I'm glad they're in our lives, those guys. Yeah, so another thing, you want them to be able to withstand extreme temperature differences. Because in space, things, like one side of a satellite will be warm from the sun,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and the other side will be really, really cold. so expansion contraction that sort of thing too things like that so there happens to be a material that is strong light and can withstand the temperature differences that a satellite has to go through and that is wood oh my gosh what wood wood right so what do you think about making a satellite out of wood well there's an episode of Futurama where bender gets basically transplanted into a wooden version of himself and he lives with a bunch of robots that have like given up their their technology to live free and wild in nature or whatever that's right and I remember there were problems with that there were some some water issues but I guess in space there's not really a water problem unless
Starting point is 00:25:54 you take it up there I'm trying to think why this wouldn't work actually well so let's let's talk about so so this is a area of research that's being done by over in Japan by some researchers at Kyoto University and they're working together with a forestry company, Simut or Sumitomo Forestry. They're trying to see if they can build a wooden satellite by 2023. So just a couple years away. And they're exploring like different types of wood. You know, it still needs to be light. There are some very heavy woods and they're very, it seems like they're more heavy woods than there are light woods. I mean, balsa. Yeah. What paneling count? I mean, stuff is actually still pretty heavy. Yeah, don't we have a bunch of that? We can strip off
Starting point is 00:26:41 of some old houses and, like, build stuff out of it. Exactly. Just pull it out of a bunch of shank carpeted base. I've got some plywood that's been sitting in my garage for like three years. They could have it. So let me ask you this. Like, obviously we're not talking about the electronic bits because that stuff's, you know, you can't make, you can't make silicone or, you know, you can't duplicate what a satellite is actually functioning as with the wood, but you can house it there. And that's the idea. Circuit boards, the materials that are used for circuit boards are chosen for very specific reasons for their material properties. So you can't really replace that. But yeah, so they're talking about mostly making, like you said, the housing out of wood.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And the headlines surrounding this are all about space junk. And that's what the researchers are looking into is how can we maybe make a satellite out of wood to reduce the amount of space junk that is out there existing? Yeah, because there's a ton of it. And not just, you know, I'm not just saying that because I've seen gravity, and I know how much of that stuff is like on a quick orbit of ripping through. Sure. You don't want Sandra Buller's thing. There's an MTV satellite that nobody's using up there right now, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Probably. There's probably multiple satellites that are just sort of dead and floating, right? A bunch of Krypton criminals and a bedroom mirror floating around. Yeah, that's what's up there. But, like, the more we put up there, I don't know, I'm maybe. I'm thinking of the movie Wally when the ship leaves orbit and it just pushes through like a thousand satellites
Starting point is 00:28:14 to get out of there and, you know, I don't know if it's that bad, but... Yeah, we see that in movies and whatnot and we think that when people talk about space junk and how many satellites are out there, we think that it must just be this like wasteland graveyard of metal surrounding the earth, you know, and it's not exactly
Starting point is 00:28:32 that way. There's around 6,000 satellites that are in orbit right now. So that is a lot. And 60% of them aren't working anymore. So it's quite a several thousand satellites that are just literally our space junk. They're just floating around out there. 60% don't do anything now? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:51 That's crazy. Back in the day when we were sending out tons of satellites to do things like GPS and all the things that satellites do, we weren't thinking about how do we get them out of space. They just wanted them up there. So there were no deorbiting plans that were ever put in the pilot. place for how to do they were just like we'll put them up there and if and if they fall down they fall down if they don't they don't why don't we send up a dude with a killer set of tools and have him just like fly up there and make a new satellite out of all the old satellite pieces i like
Starting point is 00:29:23 it that's a really good idea brian always thinking like a recycler well done i like you know add on to the uh the space station the international space station with uh pieces of the you know the yeah they make the russian guy do it city satellite right That's the other thing. I don't think Circuit City had a satellite. They probably didn't, but that's a good point. There are probably some out there that are like defunct companies now, right? Defunded telecommunications, companies.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Especially early, like, I don't know, early 90s stuff and everybody was scrambling to have a piece of that. A radio shack satellite is up there somewhere. Oh my gosh, dude. That's great. Does it have a, it's realistic brand. That's right, exactly. So, all right. This is very fascinating to me because you just, it's the kind of stuff you just don't think of.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like, wood? Really? Wow. Okay. And then it starts to make sense. Here's my question. Do they bother worrying about like a nice finish, you know, like making it nice and... Do they stain it and... Yeah. Yeah. Elon Musk is in charge, I bet you they do. If Elon does it, they do. Okay. Because I wouldn't mind nice, you know. It's got to look like a Tesla Roadster. It's got to have a star man inside of it. We already have one of those.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That's what, see, we should have sent a guy up in the Tesla Roadster to drive around and pick up all the pieces of satellite. By the way, where is that now? Do we know where that is, that car? I think it's on its way to Mars. It's approaching Mars. I think it's pretty close, actually. I freaking love that. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:30:53 So it's, it wasn't, I thought it was just put into orbit. So it's actually. I could have my facts wrong about that, I will say. I wanted to be in orbit. I wanted to be floating around and just like above the Pacific right now. just a car. Just playing music, just like, oh, I love that idea. Some sunglasses on and like a cigarette hanging out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Oh, my gosh, I love that. All right. So you said, Scott, like, it makes sense. But my question is, does it? Does it make sense? I mean, it does, look, it does from a, you still have the problem. You've got other materials in that thing that aren't going to be so biodegradable. But also, what is wood do in space?
Starting point is 00:31:32 Does it even, like, let's say, so, let's say one of these gets old. It's 10 years later, it falls out of orbit, or sorry, it just breaks or whatever. What does that actually mean? Nothing changes. It's the same as any other satellite. It's just floating up there like junk. It's just wooden junk, right? So if the point is to reduce space junk, there are kind of two angles to this space junk problem.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yeah. There may be more, but two main angles. So there's the first angle that the researchers have been talking about, which is a deorbiting problem. So when a satellite does deorbit, it burns up in the atmosphere. mostly, and it's, they're usually all made out of aluminum. So that aluminum burns up and there's aluminum particles that are spread throughout the atmosphere. And these researchers are worried about what that might do to our environment.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Oh, I see. But, which on the surface sounds like, okay, that's a good idea, but it's not really a problem. Um, aluminum in the upper atmosphere that we're talking about wouldn't probably, and the amounts that we're talking about, probably wouldn't. really be much of a problem. But let's assume that it was. Let's assume that we'll find out eventually as science progresses that aluminum is a problem in the upper atmosphere. Well, again, they're only making the casing out of it, which satellites can be pretty smooth. Oh, no. Oh, he just went behind the moon. Did we lose you? Bobby did. Bobby, you there?
Starting point is 00:32:59 it's the government trying to shut them up that's right they don't want to know about these new wooden things while we're waiting for him to come back uh tv zagon posted a link to a website called where is roadster.com which tells you where the where Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster is I don't know is this really accurate like is he is Roadster can you hear me yes you're back we can hear you now hello I'm back You're back. Welcome back. You got as far as saying, I forgot. No, you said. So I was talking about Oh, aluminum and it is how it's probably not going to hurt us. But let's say it did and then you got cut off.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah. So let's say that the aluminum is a problem in the atmosphere. Only the outside casing is what they're talking about making wood. There's also all the other things that go into a satellite and getting the satellite up there. So the major source of space junk is from like the booster rockets. that have to get it into space. Wow. You're still, you can't make those out of wood. No. I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:05 not yet. These Japanese researchers are going to be on it, though. Yeah, they're going to figure it out because then you can burn the wood while you burn the fuel, which will somehow get the wooden thing out there and not burn the wooden thing.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It'll all work out in the end. I have faith in my Japanese friends. They make robots that seem like they could kill us, so why not? I've seen them. Yeah, I've seen those things dancing. It's bad. The other side of the space junk problem, though, is the stuff that is not deorbiting.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So there's a ton of stuff just floating up there like we talked about. And making it out of wood is not going to solve that problem. It's still going to be out there. It's still going to run into things. It's just going to be a new flavor of space junk. Yeah. Right. It just might be susceptible to rings from your cups sitting on top of it.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That's right. Wood in space. Use a coaster on my satellite. Right. Well, this is really interesting stuff. And by the way, that site that we did find the roadster thing. I'm looking at it right now. Where is roadster.com?
Starting point is 00:35:11 For example, the car is 98 million? Yeah, 98,401,712 miles away. Currently, it is definitely on the way to Mars. It exceeded its 36,000 mile warranty a long time ago. Whoops. Anyway, it's out there and keep your eyes on the prize, everybody. Bobby, tell people about all around science, rather, and where they can get it. So I've got a science podcast where we talk about all sorts of science stuff called All Around Science.
Starting point is 00:35:43 You can find that. It's a podcast. You know how to find podcasts, presumably, or listening to this. I hope so. Or go to All Around Science.com. On Monday, Monday's episode, we're going to be talking about COVID again because everybody loves talking about COVID. We're going to be talking about the new UK variant of the virus. You guys heard about that? Yes. Yes. Because it appeared here in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yep. It's making its way downtown. Yeah, it's here, right? 57 cases or something is up today or something like that. They can confirm it anyway. Right. So we're going to be talking about that, what it is, how it's different. it's a it's what if it's something to worry about whether the vaccine is going to pose a problem for the vaccines that are out there stuff like that so listen all around science is the podcast nice Bobby always a pleasure we'll see you next time and I think we're going to start doing this on Thursdays guys we're just going to start doing it
Starting point is 00:36:42 you start having them on talking stuff we might we might swap you out for the Australian lady once a month but other than that Lucy from Oklahoma will come once a month and then those other times are yours but yeah let's plan on it because it's fun and I like science Bobby Frankenberger everybody will see you soon all right see you guys bye now see Bobby
Starting point is 00:37:03 does he like the whole burger in there or should I just say Bobby Franks like he goes Bobby Franks you know I think Bobby Franks I think that's becoming his his nickname you know yeah his moniker as they say right stage name what's not not yeah stage name
Starting point is 00:37:18 I like that Okay. Now, this. I don't watch the news. Time for the news. Brought to you by. Brought to you by Space Junk. And Coverville. Oh, it's Coverville today?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, yeah, Coverville today, right. That's, thanks for a reminder. I usually put it in there and I didn't. You do. You wish you would have reminded me about the show I do every Thursday. Scott, what's the matter with you? Yes, today Coverville, give paying tribute to Jerry Mars. who is the lead singer, was the lead singer of Jerry and the Pacemakers,
Starting point is 00:37:55 passed away about a week ago, but left us with some amazing music, things like Ferry Cross the Mersey, his classic version of You'll Never Walk Alone from, originally from Porgy and Bess, summertime, he did a great version of that, Gershwin's summertime. So we'll be celebrating the music and the life of Jerry Marsden, of Jerry and the Pacemakers. Plus, we'll begin the episode with a tradition that if you're a Coverville fan, you're anxiously awaiting. Oh.
Starting point is 00:38:26 But I won't say more than that. It's all I'm going to say. Dropping those fat hints. That's right. You'll just have to listen to see what I do. Well, all right, then. Also. Twitch.
Starting point is 00:38:38 At 1 p.m. Mountain Time. The only time is on the manors. There you go. That's perfect. And when he's done, it's almost time. Well, no, that's five. never mind but you know later in the day you can watch core just stay on the internet still still do that yeah yeah why not uh that song the uh cross the mersey thing fairy whatever it is
Starting point is 00:38:58 i used to hate that when i was a kid and i think it's the same thing where i get bugged by words today like oh really laboratory or gymnasium or things like that wait what what word is bothering you is something about mersey it's the name of a river i know it's a river it's a real thing, but I, it's like the Thames. I don't want anyone talking about the Thames anymore. Stop it with the Tem talk. Okay, great. You British people, you got your Thames or your Thames River.
Starting point is 00:39:25 That's great, but it sounds, I just hate hearing it. I don't know why. This is a me problem. It's me. There's something wrong with me. Sorry, sorry. Porgian Best, summertime is from Borgian Bess. Yeah. Not, not, you'll never walk alone.
Starting point is 00:39:41 That is from Carousel, and that was Burt Camford, if I remember correctly. Cam, FERT. I think I had those reversed, but I'm getting corrected by all the old people in our chairroom. Yeah, there's some older folks who know what they're talking about in there. That's right. They're going to tell us. By the way, just as I was, as I was doing that intro, Best Buy got a quantity of PlayStation 5 consoles for sale. I got the alert letting me know about it and immediately sold out. Wow, that was fast. sold in and sold out so if i seem like i was scrambling for what to say about coverville it's because
Starting point is 00:40:21 i was trying to buy a PlayStation at the same time been trying to get a an Xbox for a friend or at least let him know when one pops same problem they as soon as they show up they're just freaking gone this is just the way of consoles there's a zoolert uh would you had to set up a zoolert tracker for that as well zoolert is that zoolert dot com z oolet dot com like in this this can be used for lots of stuff, not just these. It could be used for lots of things, yeah. Oh, yeah. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Mm-hmm. Okay, so, man, they've even got, like, hand sanitizer, disaffectant wipes, like all kinds of COVID product that are hard to get. Oh, really? Like, when is, when are Clorox wipes going to be available in my local Walmart? No kidding. Let's see. These are Clorox.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Sold out, sold out, sold out. They're in stock at Amazon, but very few left. Yeah. Man, they're sold out everywhere. Holy crap, Clorox, you're making bank this year. Jerks. You better kill 99.9% of those germs. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Here's the first story. Angry chickens. So Garrett and Jocelyn. This game, yeah. Angry chicken. And you got Garrett and Jocelyn causing real trouble. It's what I call Hartstone. It's just the Angry Chicken game.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That's right. They have been wreaking havoc at McDonald's in a parking lot in the drive-thru in New Jersey. Actual chickens, not the Nuggets. Obtained from chickens. Yes. The chickens themselves, minus their nuggets. Minus the, yes, exactly. That's why they're pissed.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah. They're mad. They're like, they've lost their nuggets, and we're not going to take it anymore. My nuggets. What of my nuggets is their complaint? Buck, buck. Yeah. Maybe it's a false flag.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Maybe it's the chem trails that are turning our chickens gay. Yep, those are the ones. Police were called into action when a flock of chickens started wreaking havoc at this McDonald's in New Jersey in the Garden State. Washington Township Police received a 911 call at noon on Tuesday for a flock of chickens attacking
Starting point is 00:42:24 drive-through customers in this parking lot somewhere near Route 31 South. So you people there and that part of the world know where that is. You people. Warren County Animal Control Officer Robbie Laganera responded to the 911 call.
Starting point is 00:42:43 He was able to to tackle one chicken and chase a second chicken and then capture it with a net. Which is a really bad movie with Sandra Bullock. The net. Have you seen the net? You've seen the net. Of course I've seen the net.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I was seeing the net. I was making a joke about a woman named Annette who was assisting the animal control officer Robbie Langanara. Fake news. Fake news. Officials say the chickens are safe and will remain in Morin County Animal Control for seven days.
Starting point is 00:43:14 and then be put up for adoption if the owners have not come forward. I'm thinking Ronald McDonald's saying, I'll take him. Seven days we get them back, right? If nobody comes to claim them, we go? I mean, why not? Then we know they need them. They got three new chicken sandwiches this year.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They're trying to compete with the Popeyes and the Chick-fil-A chicken sandwiches that have been so big. So they have their own spicy chicken going? Well, they did already, but it was kind of garbage. I think these new ones are like big, thick, you know, potato roll-style bread, like monster-y-looking. They're just trying to compete with Popeyes. Popeyes, Popeyes, Popeyes, Popeyes? Pop-I's? Like Popeye?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Like Popeye? Like Popeye? Like Popeye. Pop-I? I don't think Danny Glover says that word as much as I make him say that word in my impersonation. No, what we've done is for a generation of people who haven't seen lethal weapon in a while. of Mandela the hell out of that quote. They're going to watch that and go, he just says like Popeye, Popeye. Not like Popeye?
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yeah. He says like two times that I think I put it in there like six. I prefer your way. It's better. Yeah. Me too. No word on whether the chickens were angry about McDonald's plan to roll out new chicken sandwiches, by the way, which this article says. Hey, Brian. When's the last time you checked for mushrooms
Starting point is 00:44:36 in your ear? I've got a portabella growing in my left right now as a matter of fact. I got a Shataki in my left. Have you got Shittaki in your ears? Are you just happy to see me? All right. You're so full of Shataki. A Vietnamese doctor was surprised recently to discover dozens of small mushrooms growing in a man's ears.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Why are there quotes around the word mushrooms? I don't like that. Yeah, what? They're not even really mushrooms? What do you think that means? I don't know. Quote unquote, mushrooms. Or they just use it for emphasis.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Like, people use the, you know, quotes around things like, close the door. Or legitimate election. Use a coaster on my satellite. Right. Well, here's the deal. This guy had mushrooms in his ears, I guess, or whatever a quote-unquote mushroom is. The patient came to Dr. Kwong in the Honoi, something in December, complaining of painful and itchy ears.
Starting point is 00:45:40 On examination with an endoscope, Kwong found two centimeter long fungi growing from just above his eardrums. Quickly remove them, told the patient would take a few days for his ears to recover. The fungi was, the fun guy, was causing inflammation. He's a real fun guy. He's a real fun guy. He's got fungi in his ears. Let's see, the fungi was causing inflammation in his uncomfortable symptoms.
Starting point is 00:46:05 The patient had likely transferred the fungus into his ears after sharing ear hygiene equipment from others. according to the doctor. Ear hygiene equipment. Really? What's that? Q-tip? Yeah, what would that mean? Yeah, ear hygiene equipment.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Why aren't there quotes around ear hygiene equipment? Yeah, no kidding. Since they're so free and loose with the quotation marks. There is a video here. I can't do it. I don't think I can do it. This isn't going to go well. All right, let me actually see.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh, where was it? Yeah. I mean, apparently this is video We'll see Yeah, all right Oh, it is Those of you eating, by the way You may want to look away
Starting point is 00:46:47 Oh, wow Yeah, he's got little bitty mushrooms Growing in there, dude Really? Yeah All right, now I have to look Damn it, damn it, Scott Endous
Starting point is 00:46:57 I feel like he ought to get that Taking care of, I guess he did, but Yeah Holy Moses Why are there little kids in the In the room? Oh, look at that. like, uh,
Starting point is 00:47:09 look at them. They look at the little, it's like Mario's third level in there. Right. That, uh, this is the worst no man sky level I've ever seen. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:47:19 this would be, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, that helped, that, that helped with having to look at that to do that, so. It actually did, yes. Oh, that is really foul. All right, well, uh,
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, don't do things that give you a mushroom here. The worst thing I've seen lately is there's this video. I don't know where it came from, but it's in some far, probably, some far away place in the world. I don't know where they lift up this guy's gum, there's upper lip, just pull it way up and jammed way up where you're, you know, that kind of area where you're inside of your lips meet your gum tissue and all that. Just like 20 or 30 worms just wiggily.
Starting point is 00:48:08 in there. Oh, geez. I know. I know. I call that Zesta Salteen storage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That area. Yeah. Oh, my lord.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's so gross. It's just foul. And he didn't look none the wiser. Like, they pull, he's just sitting there going, oh, yes, looking around the room. And they go, oh, geez. And they see all these worms, and they back up, and he's just sort of like, whatever, man. Freaking, I'm normal. Yeah. Nope, not happening.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Anyway, uh, it's really fantastic. Um, all right. One final show note here, everyone, a final story. Story. Check this out. The Danes are, or the Denmark's, what are they called? They're not Danes, are they? Danes, if they're from Denmark.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, Danes, right? Danes. Yeah, they're Danish. They're great Danes. I'm sorry, they're great Danes. They're horse-sized dogs. So, this is an interesting story, and also every time I hear something about the Danes, it's weird. Children's TV show about a man with a giant penis airs in Denmark.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yay. line up. Hey kids, it's the Dirk Diggler show. Yay! With Derek Diggler. Special guest stars, Milton Burrell, and
Starting point is 00:49:19 that guy who's in trouble right now who was in porn. The Hedgehog guy. Yeah, exactly. I can't remember his name either. The Hedgehog. The Hedgehog. I don't know what his name.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. Chat room. One wants to. Do we judge? There we go. Benjin 006, the first person to jump in with Ron Jeremy, we won't judge you for how quickly you got that. Yeah, that was a little fast, buddy. That was like right on the lag of Twitch, and then you knew it. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Anyway, children's show about this dude is real. Don, or sorry, John Dillerman has an extraordinary penis. So extraordinary, in fact, that it can perform rescue operations. Etch murals, hoist a flag, and even steal ice cream from children. children. This is a Danish thing. They have a new animated series aimed at four to eight year olds about John Dillermand, the man with the world's longest penis,
Starting point is 00:50:20 who overcomes hardships and challenges with his record-breaking genitalia. Wow. Okay. Unsurprisingly, the series has provoked a debate about what good children's television should or should not contain in Denmark. I mean, I'm trying to keep no mind here, because over here this just wouldn't fly. But Denmark, maybe they got, I don't know, whatever. They're less worried about the unit.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Since premiering on Saturday, opponents have condemned the idea of a man who cannot control his penis. And this really says, in this really the message we want to send to children. Oh, yeah, yeah. David DeCovny, good call. This club is getting bigger and bigger. It says, do we really want this? Is this really the message we want to send to our children while we're in the middle of a huge Me Too wave wrote the Danish author, Anne Lisa Manstrand Jorgensen.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Manstrand Jorgensen. The show comes just months after the TV presenter, Sophie Lindel, kickstarted Denmark's Me Too movement. Christian goes, let's see, I'm trying to get back to the show here. She believes, oh, Erica Heinsen Holstead, a clinical psychologist who works with families.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It feels like a story that was purely written to get you to say, 11 different Danish names. Let's see. What words can we put in the title to make sure it comes up in Scott's Google Alerts? I know. Penis. There you go. Got it. She says, this psychologist says, she works with families and children.
Starting point is 00:51:53 She believes the show's opponents may be overthinking things. This is a quote from her. John Dillerman's talked to children and shares their way of thinking. And kids do find genitals funny, she says. They're a who. The show depicts We don't have to ask the question Don Dillerman
Starting point is 00:52:10 What's his power? Dillerman Oh, I want to see a picture of this guy Is that in here? Well, Kevin Kipper just put one in the Oh, he did, did he? In chat and Oh my gosh, really?
Starting point is 00:52:23 Is this really it? That's really it. All right, I can show this. Hold on. Yeah. There you go, chat. Is it a little Claymation he show or something?
Starting point is 00:52:34 It's a little quaymation he show, yeah. It's a fella tubbies. Falatubbies. Wow. Nice. Dillotubbies. Dillotubbies. Well done.
Starting point is 00:52:43 So he's, he's, clearly, clearly he's got, uh, Mr. Fantastic's unstable particle up, unstable, unstable, unstable, molecules, uh, costume. Is there going to be, you know how he man came, right? There was he man. And then later we got Shira. Like he man? Like he man, like he man. Like he man.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like he man. Shira, will we get a vagina lady after this who can like pick up footballs and stuff with their vagina or whatever? She'll be able to throw footballs. Yeah. Yeah. Because kids think genitals are funny. All right. Well, you're...
Starting point is 00:53:19 Willie tubbies. That's even better. Okay, that's the one. What was it? Willettubbies. Willie tubs. Very nice. Very nice. Honestly, I don't know what's weird or telotubbies. I've seen telotubbies. It's freaking weird. It is freaking weird. That was the age. Tristan
Starting point is 00:53:34 was the age where, uh, where he would watch it. And, uh, and I was just, I was transfixed by the damn thing. I couldn't, couldn't look away. Same. You have to watch it. It's a train wreck. Yeah. Uh, we're going to take a break when we come back. My sister will be here. We're going to talk about whatever the alternate term is for New Year's resolutions. I don't know why I'm avoiding it, but I am. Yeah. Because there is a, we'll talk about that, but there is a negative connotation of New Year's resolutions. I agree. I agree. Yeah. During this break, though, Brian's going to play a song and I am going to go practice putting lighter fluid on my grill with my long penis.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Brian, explain the song while I go do that, please. Listen, if you can light a match with it, now I'll be impressed. Let's go to Austin, Texas, for a five-piece indie group that's got a brand new album coming out called Somewhere. It comes out February 5th. The band is called SunJune,
Starting point is 00:54:25 and this is nice. This is just a nice, I think it's what we all need today, a nice song. This is really good. The song is called, the brand new single is called Everything I Had, the upcoming album is called Somewhere. Here is SunJune. to live We're not getting
Starting point is 00:55:10 better We could move We could move to Los Angeles We could move to Los Angeles. Everything I had, I want to die. Gotta get. Gotta get used to it. Yeah, I thought.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. I thought that there's no use talking to you. So the line in the moment wasn't lying. Everything I had, I wanted back. Everything I had, I wanted back. Tongue lighten Oh, that might have been Throwing far in a cow
Starting point is 00:56:53 You and need the pair Throwing far in a cow You let me everything I hide I want it back So, I'm going to be able to be. So, you know, I'm going to be able to be. Oh,
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Starting point is 01:00:20 The morning stream. The fresh snacks with a snack in the middle. Welcome back, everybody. Thank you for returning to the program. We're back, Brian and I. Thank you for returning our call. Thank you so much for that. Good to be back.
Starting point is 01:00:44 We are going to now add my sister to the call. Okay. A lot of people have said, hey, didn't Wendy have COVID? No, it's my other sister. Wendy did not get it. Plus, you can't catch it over the phone anyway. No. Plus, Wendy's very careful about things like that.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And wouldn't surprise me if it would shock me if that was the news. But nonetheless and notwithstanding, let's play this. Welcome to the first. program after a long break because of the holidays and Thursdays being in weird places in 2020. Welcome Wendy back. Hi, Wendy. Hi, guys. Hey, it's my sister Wendy, a real therapist and psychologist. She's here of her own free will. Comes here on Thursdays and gives us cool advice on stuff. Sometimes it answers your questions. Today we're kind of an advice mode. But what if you made me do this? As you said, free will,
Starting point is 01:01:36 I was like, what if this was like? What if I made you? I'm like, help, Brian. Brian, get me out of this. It's like I'm holding some sort of mythical cold soldering iron to your forehead making you do this every week. Yeah. That makes sense. Anyway, but I am here. So she is here, and here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:01:55 We're not going to talk about it yesterday. Yesterday was weird. And we're not done with it. It's a mess. It was poo. It was poo. Weird. It was weird. Yeah, yesterday was the day. Yeah, weird's the worst, is the most smallest term I could use.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah. But it did make me wonder if I could cancel my service after a seven-day trial of 2021. Because, you know, it's day seven. Nicely done. Yeah, I don't want to pay for that first month. Anyway, we're going to do that. Instead, we're going to try to be forward thinking about the year and talk about, I don't know, I guess these are resolutions, but less resolution-y and more like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:31 what is the thing that we really want to try to accomplish this year? And you ask me pre-show, hey, you guys come up with a couple things you want to sort of like, you know, do. And I assume it can be anything, but let's jump right into kind of what you meant and see if we were right with what we picked. Yeah. Well, I'm going to deconstruct the crap out of them. So that's the plan. Oh, fun.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Fun. No, really, like, okay. So, first of all, there's something about January, right? Like, something happens where you. And as much as everyone's like, don't expect 2021 to be better for everyone. everyone has to admit tiny part of them was like possible something might go better yeah no you set the bar pretty damn low yeah pretty low but even in a time like now like the normal years you you feel this way you know what I mean like you always do sure yeah sure so I've been thinking
Starting point is 01:03:27 about why like what actually happens and like you know if there's a history buff out there what what did this look like historically where you're like the darkest night of the year and it's starting to get lighter like there's something biologically related here right um and probably historically shown in the record of various cultures and people or whatever but sort of obviously new year and yeah let's celebrate it lots of cultures do that but there's there is just maybe some renewed energy so what do we do with it i i think the modern version is you just ate yourself sick for the last month yeah and then there's this moment where you're like, I'm either going to die or I need to stop. So there's
Starting point is 01:04:13 another biological imperative or something. So then, you know, you get this big boost. You start to think big. What are we going to do? We burn through that energy pretty quick. And then we're back to living our baseline life. So that's, you know, pretty typical. But I feel like this year is interesting. Because our energy is already lower and weirder. And it feel like, if you make any plans, they're just going to get canceled on you. Like, we all have some trauma, I think, from, you know, and this isn't even to speak to people who are grieving and, like, lost many, many things, right? So this is just your average Joe who's done fine in the last year in theory, but it may be
Starting point is 01:04:54 as emotionally not doing so great. So I think everyone's at different places. So let's just say that. So let's just take your thing, Scott, you're thinking about. And Brian, what are you thinking this year you'd like to do? you'd like to Okay mine's quick and easy
Starting point is 01:05:10 One's quick and easy Not do is a good one Not do is a good one Okay for me It is You tell me if it's too broad Because maybe it is Because I have some specifics too
Starting point is 01:05:22 But I want to I want 2021 to be the year I massively simplify Who I am and what I do And what my day is And so by that I mean There's stuff in the studio i don't even touch i got to get rid of it uh i want there are boxes of of duplicate
Starting point is 01:05:42 cables i'm never going to need i've got stuff uh you know that i would call you know junk that i've held onto for no good reason other than well i might need it one day uh i don't want to do that anymore and i don't know if that's like there's a little bit of dad in me dad was a little bit of a pack rat and never got rid of anything it seemed like and so i i tend to see something like let's just say something as simple and dumb as a parallel cable for an old parallel printer or scanner and I'll see it and go oh man remember those that was like 20 years ago never going to need that again but maybe I will and boy that day I'll be pissed if I didn't if I don't have that if I come a cry if I need it all of a sudden and I don't have it right but then I go on never
Starting point is 01:06:24 needing it and I need to just I want to simplify and those sound like really like I'm not talking about just like material things too I just mean like I want to read more. I want to give myself more space, buffer my time a little bit, be less on all the time and find more quiet time. Just a general overall simplification is what came to my mind when you told me that last night. So that's where I am. Brian, you tell you. That's where you are. And I have like a thousand thoughts. So Brian, let's see if yours is similar. You want to add more to your Mine is similar. It's minimizing distractions.
Starting point is 01:07:05 So like basically having little tiny DeLoreans on my desk. I want to kind of reduce the number of all this stuff around me so that when I'm working, I'm working and I'm working on one thing specifically, move on from the next thing, that sort of thing. And it kind of goes along with the simplification that's talking about because it's not just doodads and toys and trinkets. It's, well, I've got a micro USB cable sitting here. I don't need 11 micro USB cables sitting on my desk or this battery charger thing or like portable battery phone rechargeer thing.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I mean, I can figure out which ones of those I need, get rid of the rest. I'm never going to need a situation where I need to take five battery phone recharge. is out with me. Are you sure? One should be enough. Are you sure? See, this is the thing. It sounds a lot like mine.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And I've talked to others who have expressed a similar feeling of like just shake off some of these shackles of like distraction and or too much stuff or too many subscriptions or whatever. Like just get to a place where you're just less, I don't know, less held back by that stuff. or at least I feel like I'm held back by that stuff. For sure. If I... Oh, no. Oh, hi. Oh, you're back.
Starting point is 01:08:34 We lost you for a second. You're good. I think that was just me pausing. Oh. Okay. Don't pause. All right. No pausing.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Just talk. Anyway, I think, okay, so we got to start with a couple of human factors here or just psychological factors. So you have eight micro USB cables and you've got cords from the 19, 90s and so just for a moment like I want you to both describe what happens when like like let's say Kim or Tina walk in right now with a a bucket of fire and they grab your micro USB cables and say oh you only need one and they take the other seven and they put them in the incinerator yeah so what what feeling does it evoke I was
Starting point is 01:09:25 I'd like to say it would be just like, oh, that'd be, that's great. Thank you for finally releasing me from my self-made prison of obsolete cables. Yeah. But it'd be like, oh, no, which one did you throw away? Oh, crap. No, not that one. Yeah. There would be a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:09:42 There would be a lot of, I'll do it. I'll do it is what I would say. Like, why are you doing it? I'll do it. I do this to my kids where, you know, Nick, who's moving out your direction soon, might have something here that I'm like, I'm not keeping this. Like, I'm going to freaking throw this thing away. And, but Akim did that to me or anybody else said, oh, I'm just going to take this
Starting point is 01:10:03 extra mixer of Scots and just throw it away. He's obviously not using it. I'd be livid. I'd be like, come on, man. I get to choose when the baby, every bit. So you're not wrong. Like, I would be very defensive of somebody doing that. A possessive thing, right?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah. So, I mean, they've done this study where they gave people mugs from like a goodwill, you know, so they cost like 50 cents. And they, I'm trying to remember exactly what they did. Oh, yeah. They gave them, they gave them free crappy mugs. And then they had some people use them. And then other people not use them.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And then they went to sell them. And they got to decide what the price was. And people who had used them and felt some kind of ownership of them and thought they were worth like $5, $10. And the people who never used them were like, yeah, you can just give them away, right? Like there was no attachment. And we're talking like such minimal. It's already junk.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Someone just handed you and used once. And now it's, you're attached to it. And that's, this is this very core human survival impulse that's been here a long, long time, which is, you know, I need that blade that's so hard. to come by so I can kill the animal to get food from my family, you know? Is it like a nesting instinct or something? Like we just got to have all this stuff around us in case we need it for kind of nesting purposes or what drives us to do that?
Starting point is 01:11:39 Because it does feel, I used to feel this way with dad, he would have so much stuff in the garage and you couldn't move anything in there or park the car. And I remember thinking, is it just to hold on? I don't know. I don't know. I've never really understood it. And I do it too, so, you know, no judgment for anyone who keeps their stuff. And costs, it's such a big part of this, right?
Starting point is 01:11:58 Like, you've put all this money. So when you look at your eight cables, you can, maybe you're not consciously going, that represents $100. Yeah. But you, on some level, you've paid for those. You feel the, right, when, but you could afford to go buy one. If all of them disappeared and you had to get another, you could go do that. You are not actually in a position where you're dead and your family.
Starting point is 01:12:22 will die also because you've lost that thing. Well, I also know that the second I buy one more electronic device, I'm going to get another micro USB cable to replace the eight I threw away. Exactly. Exactly. So it shouldn't make sense. And it, again, this is kind of my point today, is that bringing your conscious awareness as much as you possibly can muster to there are psychological things afoot in all of this.
Starting point is 01:12:51 it's not you as a person are bad or good or lazy or sloppy or a hoarder or that there's a lot happening here right yeah um and and everyone has different reasons so you know if we go back in time so scott we could just already assume you had modeled to you some hoarding behavior um dad lost his job which means all of a sudden things could all go awry that's pretty deep in there and so to say you know what i'm getting rid all my stuff i'm going to simplify my schedule I'm only going to work in ways that are nurturing are going to be that that goal is dead by January 15th when someone's like well here's a big gig you want it and you're like yeah of course of course I do and now I have no time but also I it's this impulse is driven a lot by history
Starting point is 01:13:40 but also driven very much by this biology thing right so when we are talking about simplifying or getting rid of things and for some people they have and there are a few people out there I hope some are listening, who are like, are you kidding? They're having dopamine fests in their head when they throw stuff away. So they're very on a different scale. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I get that too. Like when I throw something away, there's the initial, oh, am I going to need that?
Starting point is 01:14:06 But then it's almost immediate like, oh, my God, I feel so much better just getting rid of that and it not being this albatross sitting in the basement. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to Maria condo. When Tristan moved out? Yeah. Yeah, that was like, oh, do I really? Do I want this kid? Oh, now he's gone. I feel better.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Now he's got all my God, so much lighter. But, I mean, if we could all Maria Condor our way around the house, great. But those people who really love that, you know, love putting out the old and barely and not necessarily replacing it with the new or whatever. I would love to do that. I do have this thing that I started that is based purely on my own idea. I call it three a day. And I just started on the first. Every day, three things get chucked.
Starting point is 01:14:49 and if they can be donated or used in some you know somebody could use their needs them then that's where they go but three things a day are out of here and my theory is i might be crazy but my theory is after you know you do the math after enough time with three of those a day you're going to clear stuff out pretty quick right as long as you stick to it as long as you're not buying four things to do right right or even three i mean i know someone who does if she brings anything into her house, she gets rid of something. So it's a one-to-one. She never brings anything new. It's also a good way to do it. You won't reduce, but at least you won't increase. Yeah. Okay. So which you're getting to the core of my advice today is, and there's a book you can read it all about. It's called Atomic Habits. And the idea is that it's just very, very small things compounded over time, which is literally the only way to think anything ever works in the end. Right. Let's be clear. So, for example, there are big rush of energy that we get in January, or in theory we get in January, we expend it by doing everything all at once. And then what happens? Once you clean all your office out and do blah, blah, blah, it's just going to accumulate right back.
Starting point is 01:16:04 And you will be exact same position next New Year's Eve if it's not daily and small. And that is hard. Now, we do daily small things all the time. So both of you name one daily small thing you do every single day. you don't even have to think about it maybe anymore, but it's just something you do every single day. And then let's talk about the impact of it. I mean anything?
Starting point is 01:16:27 I make coffee, like I brew coffee every day, get up. I feed three dogs and put them all out to poo. Okay. So now imagine you didn't do those things at all. What would happen after a week? Well, Brian would be unlivable on this show for his. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Just kidding. He'd be all right. I thought your house to be full of dog crap. The house would be, well, no, what would happen is there'd be screaming, yelping dogs upstairs who are all dying to pee, take a dump, and eat. And Kim would just have to do it. And then she would be like, I guess I'm cooking, doing the dishes and this other stuff. And I'll go ahead and take care of these dogs that I actually don't want.
Starting point is 01:17:10 So then we'd have like a problem potentially. Yes. Okay. So that is the point of these atomic habits, is that. they accumulate and create a consequence. So if I eat, like I did this morning, cake for breakfast. If I ate cake for breakfast for every morning the rest of my life, eventually there will be some biological response to that or accumulation of something.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Maybe that's not great. Or if I deep breathe and meditate every single day, I'm going to accumulate something at the end of that. So we do it in both directions all the time. Our problem is we like to try to do a big thing all at once. and we have to use willpower for that, which we don't have a lot of. And I say even less this year. People do not have as much willpower as they used to.
Starting point is 01:17:56 And so it needs to be really small. So, for example, let's take your simplifying your life, Scott. So you've started an atomic habit, which is three a day. Three day, you get rid of something. Yeah. Why would that stop? What would be the thing that would get in the way of that? What would get in the way of that?
Starting point is 01:18:16 well I mean obviously not sticking to it or getting busy and running out of stuff I mean I mean yeah I mean eventually you do run out of things that you can throw away but I don't mean this to be like a permanent life style of all time I just mean it to be I actually I don't I don't know what the metric is for when I've done enough honestly but I do know that there's plenty so so I'm basically I'm starting with this storage space we have and I'm doing that first and then just kind of working my way out and If I get to the end of the day and I haven't done it and I'm like, I need three things quick. What do I have? It can even be, well, there's this can of empty soda sitting here and also this cable I don't need and also this piece of paper I've never used and that's throw it away. Or it could be as big as here's a box that a computer came in eight years ago that I kept in case I had to send anything back or in case anything went bad, but it never did.
Starting point is 01:19:11 So now it's just sitting here for no reason and won't fit anything else in it that I ever need. So, you know, big, big space savings there. But, you know, I just, if I don't do it, I feel like I failed for the day. And if I do it, I feel like I got something that I actually accomplished it. I don't know. I'm not sure how I should feel. I think, too, you could create it as the maintenance thing. And that's the key here is that you do something very small and you do it consistently.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And it has some sort of reward, cyclical reward. built into it so it's less about using willpower more about getting the benefit so if i say clean my whole house marie condo my whole house you're not going to get it done you will quit and you will have piles on your kitchen table and then you got to just find places to put it unless you can maintain the willpower to do the whole thing now some people can do that right but what if you let's just say it was the three a day you go through three books get rid of three books you don't need anymore and you take care of them that day now the key would be from start to finish those three things are taken care of which means you drive them
Starting point is 01:20:22 to goodwill you give them to the person right within the day yeah you're just going to have piles at your door if you do anyway but but it's the maintenance right and so so what you'll get is the reward slowly and in steady doses and then at you can do three a day the rest of your life scott and it'll be like the soda can or taking the garbage out right there's other versions sure sure yeah no matter how it's a really great idea yeah here's the thing okay but then like the the the alternate well anyway keep going keep going keep going i was just going say then where does this lead to you simplifying like taking that sort of bigger goal and and brian's too of just like how to stay focused and how to simplify streamline or whatever it will be first of all you
Starting point is 01:21:08 have to understand why you don't do that now why is that not the thing now yeah see this a great this is kind of where I was headed so you're basically saying what I was trying to formulate like I hadn't really given this kind of thought um like what's my end game for this like what am I trying to achieve or or feel at the end of it is there an end to it first of all and if there is what do I expect to see there I don't know like maybe I don't know that I mean I do know that holding on to we'll keep it simple holding on to material things uh is not a a road to happiness On the one hand, I've got this, yesterday van was playing with it, but I've got this car.
Starting point is 01:21:48 You probably remember it, actually, because your childhood would have had this car in it. But there's a little red, ancient car. Where is it? A little plastic one that I had when I was two years old and played with that thing until I was six or seven. And I remember it. It was always in whatever toy box we had.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It was always available to me. I'll never get rid of this thing. Like, I will keep this forever because it's this relic of, you know, my entire life. but there's things sitting next to it like a funco pop version of I don't know some Star Wars character that I don't really care about
Starting point is 01:22:22 so why is that here and that'll be one of my three things today probably give it to a kid neighbor kid or somebody I don't know the hard yeah the hardest thing in doing that because I need to do it too is stuff that people have given us you know really generous listeners
Starting point is 01:22:39 to the show or or fellow producers podcasters, whatever, who've gone out of their way to send something really nice. It's like, okay, that's cool, but I don't have shelf space for it or, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:51 a wall space to hang it. What do I do with it? Yeah. Right. So that gets to that emotional attachment. It absolutely does. Yeah. So it's not just a matter of,
Starting point is 01:23:01 ooh, I might need this someday. It's like, no, I feel like I'm disrespecting the person who gave this to me if I get rid of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And let me just let you know about a secret with Marie Kondo that she is, Shinto. She actually really is in Japanese. She's from Staten Island. Yeah, she's from Staten Island and New York. And she's a little, and she's two feet tall. That's the other thing you don't know about. She's a follower of Shintoism, which is essentially, if you break down what she's talking about when she like honors all the things in the house and doesn't want your socks to be mistreated, is that there's this basically spirit in everything, right? So you are, you're abusing things by
Starting point is 01:23:41 mistreating them or piling them up or you know whatever and and and so when she's just like does it bring you joy if not you need to free this thing like it has like a such a deeper meaning that I think maybe as Americans we could adopt a little of like uh in out of respect for this thing someone gave me I'm going to give it a new home you know like maybe we can channel the that piece to it because again we're we're worried about the people not the thing and I think that's why she can throw everything away and, like, live her life so cleanly because she's got this deeper sense of it. Whereas we're just like, I need more stuff to feel better about myself. And it's not necessarily sort of, if I take anything from her, it's this really deep respect
Starting point is 01:24:28 for yourself and how you feel in your space as well as respect for the item, which I don't know if I can ever conjure, but bless her for doing it, right? So that idea, though, is if deep respect, so, Scott, when I hear your plan to simplify or even Brian, less distractions, that is, now imagine if there was someone in your life who just, like, stood next to you and did the distractions or piled on your work or was just kind of awful to you. You wouldn't feel very respected, but you're the ones doing it to yourself. Right. Right. Yeah, I do. His name is Hammond Chamberlain.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Take that, Hammond. Just kidding. Keep going. I don't know. That is that idea. though that like out of respect for your you know to treat yourself well you know if we can extend her love of socks and don't fold them that way because it's rude to them like how about to ourselves what is your constant distraction and your inability to relax or play or rest like it's not
Starting point is 01:25:27 self-respect and and so to find some deeper meaning behind what you're choosing to do this year differently can really help like it can really be the boost of so like Scott you're saying what is your end game what is the point is the point to feel peaceful is the point to feel less embarrassed when someone comes over to your house is the point like what do you need out of this emotionally and psychologically and if that is it front of mind and then you're the habit to get there or the behavior to get there is very small and daily you'll have more success I found so I think I may know the source of why I'm even thinking about this it just occurred to me we're helping Nick
Starting point is 01:26:07 get ready to do this move. And it's all, you know, it's a little stressful from just a parental aspect because, you know, we're going to miss them. It'll be gone. But on the other hand, the other day, I was like, no better time in the, in the, in the, in the history of the world to have one of your kids move out of state or even the country because we have real time communication with everybody. Like, we can just talk any time.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Like, if this was me at 20, you're basically gone. you're basically in the desert in the wilderness right like nobody knows where you are you don't know where they are you don't you can't check in and when you do it costs an arm and a leg because long distance phone calls are ridiculous and that requires someone to be out of phone and you know like all these things and we don't have to worry about any of that so so unless i'm less on the fence about it um in those terms but what i have witnessed during all of this is he has had to do his own version of simplifying he's basically just going to take what he can fit in his car and when I saw him do that or see him starting to do that and and and shedding excess junk or
Starting point is 01:27:15 waste or whatever he doesn't need and he already doesn't have a ton of stuff but seeing that it reminded me of me around that age where you know the shirt on my back and what I could put in a backpack was good enough it's all I needed and and I'm good to go and the world is your oyster and all of that it made me realize boy you really do nest over time like you you you just build up all this stuff and it's not even, doesn't it have to be expensive stuff. It's just stuff. Like, whatever, whatever this stuff is for whoever you are. And it just made me feel or made me, it, it, uh, compounded the feeling I was already feeling of like, boy, I sure like to be like that again, a little less burdened by what is, you know, what I'm carrying and a little more,
Starting point is 01:28:02 I don't know, a little more agile with, with your life. And he, because he's about to do that. And I don't know. I just think that's where it came from. Or at the very least, that's what brought it to my mind yesterday when you asked. Because, you know, he's about to do that very thing. It's him, his car, and his dog. Oh.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Yeah. And it's great. It's got to look so freeing, too, like from the outside, like watching him do this. Like, he's so excited. Like, he's really jazzed. He's nervous, but that's normal. And but he's got a cool opportunity. He's going to take it.
Starting point is 01:28:34 It's in a thing he wants to do and learn. And like, it's all cool. he's only an hour from my house yeah he's like close to you so so does that mean you'll actually visit us oh hell yeah yeah yeah i mean here's the thing we would have been out there before now for i know mandatory freaking minnesota meetups that's pretty good m mhm mandatory uh because we got fans out there would love to have us meet in the Midwest but uh yeah COVID and all that but so so that's the other thing is like you know i'm i'm really grateful that you guys are actually out there not because he'll need you but because I don't know it's just something nice
Starting point is 01:29:10 about proximity but but anyway um I'm rambling but I but I guess what I'm saying is seeing him go through that is prompting some of this for me of like yeah well you know I can I'm not 20 anymore but I can sure I can sure cut back rid of this bobblehead right yeah I don't need this bobblehead anymore or 80 chords from the 90s yeah one of my favorite things to do is to talk to my kids about the is it matrix dot printers and just like dot matrix dot matrix thank you i can't remember the name now matrix dot printers is the new domain for defining your data matrix dot matrix printer's yeah anyway to remind them how old i am okay so hold on uh let me say one caveat here let me do a little plug for people get and get their therapy on in 2021 and that is this if the thought
Starting point is 01:30:01 of doing some of the stuff we've talked about or like you may want to but like it when it comes down to you starting to try to throw something away or gather something to like do something different and you're just sort of plagued with anxiety about it. I think so often what we do is we'll have an idea and we'll move to try to make that idea and then we get blocks and we don't know what to do with that so we quit. That's really, really common. So if the block is an emotional block, which all blocks are by the way, this is where a little curiosity goes a long way of like okay what's that about like why am I what's my resistance here and sometimes it might just be that I'm tired today but other times it might be that I'm really anxious about letting this
Starting point is 01:30:48 thing go and there are reasons for that I did a training once on on hoarding behavior and in the audience I had people share just their different experiences or people that they knew and just you know what the anxiety to try to see it rather than when you don't when you're not a messy person or something you're just like what you don't get it but when you have had you know you have a different experience when you're collecting your things like brian's cables are really important to him we don't know why we can't just assume um and and so anyway i had a woman in the audience share that her good friend was quote unquote a hoarder and what didn't become when until she was like in her 40s and what had happened was they had you know cleaned out and um get thrown
Starting point is 01:31:36 tons and tons and stuff away as they're about to move and as they're moving this is awful oh this feels like such a doma story sorry but um the moving truck ran over and killed their child oh geez oh my god it was horrifying and this is after everything they just threw away that was hers that they didn't think they needed to take so for the rest of this woman's life she wouldn't throw anything away yeah and so we could all from the outside not knowing that story just be like oh that ladies house of growth. You just have no, you have no idea. And that's a really extreme version of trauma, right? But there is trauma sometimes related to not feeling safe and moving around a lot as a kid or having lost things that really matter to you or those things being
Starting point is 01:32:23 discounted by someone else or just wanting to be safe and fed or whatever it might be. And so, be really gentle with yourself as you think about it. Maybe your goal isn't these things, but maybe your goals related to other things that also have sort of trauma. And so the key here is when something blocks or rises up and sort of prevent you from doing something, instead of just running away or quitting or pushing through anyway, just stop and and get curious about what is this maybe about. That's going to go so much further than making a list of 10 items and getting up at 5 a.m. and going to the gym.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Like that stuff is fine, but it doesn't last and it doesn't solve any of the actual stuff. It's through small things and then just like really dealing with what maybe has created some of them. And a lot of them are painful. So go to therapy. Yeah, go to therapy. And that's the other thing. That's my answer always. I was talking to who was it.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Oh, this week, Bill was telling us about Bill Duran who does our maker stuff on Mondays. You know Bill. Bill is he started seeing a therapist and not for any major earth-shattering reasons, but just because it's good to do one. And he was just raving about it. So maybe 20-21's the year to get a therapist. And they're all online now because you can't do the whole in-office stuff anymore, at least for now. So open like some of these text therapy ones.
Starting point is 01:33:50 I've had people really have some good experiences with that, especially if you're not, if it's not, you know, sort of life-threatening sorts of things. It's great. And yeah, I mean, here's the thing, too, therapists need therapists. So we need to save a few. So what, you can't just look at a mirror. And they're also very busy. You can't just look at it. Therapists who need therapists. You can't just look in a mirror. That doesn't work, right? You can't look in a mirror and go, you know, Stuart Smalley, the whole thing. Okay. It doesn't work. It's the thing I love to think about with masks. When people have masks on them. I'm like, so now you can smell your breath, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're just not good at knowing our own stuff. And that's just real. So, yeah. But,
Starting point is 01:34:35 you know, if you've been on the fence, let 2021 be your year where you leap off that fence. Well, let's do it. And try, I mean, so you think my three days okay. It's an okay way of doing this. I love it. I think it's great. One a day is great. I mean, if, if, yeah, because the consistency see, the smallness, that was exactly what I was going to tell people. Another thing to do that's interesting is rather to focus on habit to use the identity, like an identity marker for something. So, for example, I mean, I played a lot of sports in my life. So at one point, I just thought of myself as an athlete.
Starting point is 01:35:16 It wasn't even like a word I thought much about. But if you said, oh, are you an athlete? I'd be like, no, I'm old and I hurt. Like that's, I'm not an athlete. But it's like, no, actually, I really like physical exercise and I like sports. And I like, so can I just be not an Olympic athlete, but like a basic one? So while you're exercising or you're doing something, you do a thing that an athlete would do, right? Or you organize the way someone who's organized would do.
Starting point is 01:35:45 You kind of embody the identity of that thing rather than, okay, I'm going to do this and make a list and try to force yourself to be that person. It's kind of a weird technique, but it's a little bit of just like, while exercising, be like, wow, I'm an out of shape athlete. Let's keep doing this. Like, as if that's just who you are and something that you do. So, Scott, you're a three-day guy, and that's just who you are. So there's a bit of, like, embodying the identity of something that they've found it can be pretty impactful, just a way to think about it differently rather than I'm a this.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I'm not this or I have to do this. we're like, I'm an athlete taking a break. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I'm organized. I'm an organized person. What does that even mean and look like and feel like, well, you just start to do it and Right. Compared to who.
Starting point is 01:36:37 That's the other thing is everybody wants to compare themselves to everybody else. I'll go to somebody's really beautifully manicured, you know, office space and go, oh, what am I doing? Like, but what am I, why am I doing that? Like, I shouldn't be comparing myself to anybody else. And they shouldn't compare themselves to me. office. I'm like, I'm not a cartoonist. This is not what I would have on my walls because some of it does fit you, right? Like, it is you. So, like, maybe it's just a little more organized cartoonist is all you want to be. Yeah, that's what I want. The organized cartoonist. By the way, this guy that wrote Atomic Habits, his name is James Clear. Is that really his last name? Clear. Yeah, that seems a little convenient to me. James Clear. It's like Dr. Bones. A very, very close comparison. All right. This is a very, very close comparison. All right. This is a very, this. is good advice. I hope everybody takes it and makes 2021 a little better than it needed to be or
Starting point is 01:37:31 that it was or that it is. That it is capable of being. There we go. That's better. Yes. A little worse than I thought. But anyway, Wendy, we're glad to have you back. We'll do this again next time. And is there anything you want to mention? Yeah. Real steps is coming. Speaking of real baby atomic steps. It's going to be super fun. I'm really excited about. stuff we're adding with February is is when it starts and I will start sending emails out pretty quick so go to real steps.org and just put your name on the email list if you love random email is it sign up month or is it actual like go for it month like the it's we will sign up this month at this point I need to update the website because did I mention I had cake for
Starting point is 01:38:15 breakfast so I'm a little behind I did a little staring at small I think that's my new resolution is Cake for breakfast, man. It was Pete's birthday, so, you know, I got cake line around. Anyway, the, yeah, the sign up will be soon, soon. But right now, if you go there, you're signing up just to get the emails that are going to tempt you to do it. Sure. And we start in February. First of February, it's going to be a blast.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Nice. Check it out. All the details at real steps.org. Wendy, have a fantastic week. All right. Thanks. Bye, guys. Thanks, Wendy.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Bye now. And this is Adam Godly, guys. still on our thing, and it freaks me out every time. I know every time I look over in his giant ears. I know. I feel like he can hear me, where he is. It's like Pee-Weirman in the gimmick store going, what, what?
Starting point is 01:39:07 Hey, you do a good Peeley-Herman. I don't know if I've heard that. Have I? I used to do that in the drive-thru at Taco Bell. Well, I, Pee-Ehermin, can I take you order, please? What? Whatever you want? Taco Bell Grande?
Starting point is 01:39:19 Oh! Wait. Did you do that? to real people they were there to get that to real people in the taco bowl drive-thru i did yeah brian was one of those you guys i think i told this story before but uh one point after doing that woman pulls up to the uh the window yeah and says could i see your manager please i'm like oh crap did i do this to the wrong person and um i step away and jan who you know had a nicer polyester outfit than i did walks up to the window says hi can help you yes i just want to say that
Starting point is 01:39:52 there's a Taco Bell that's like a block away from my house, but I come to this one because of this guy right here and his funny voices on the drive-through. And I just want to let you know, it's like, whew. That's adorable. That's great. Okay. Yeah, you dodge that bullet.
Starting point is 01:40:06 You dodged that. I totally did. I know. It could have easily gone worse. Now I'm hungry for Taco Bell. You? You want to talk about? Taco Bell?
Starting point is 01:40:12 Do you want Taco Bell? Popeye? No, I want Popeyes. Popeye's chicken? Popeye. I go Popeyes right now. Oh my gosh. Don't talk about this food.
Starting point is 01:40:21 This all sounds good. We're going to take our leave. Before we do, a reminder that you folks at home are responsible for this show existing. And you make that happen over at patreon.com slash TMS. Check out all our levels. Get art in the mail. Hey, what about daily bonus audio content? You can't get anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:40:39 That's the place to go. That's Patreon.com slash TMS. And if you're looking for anything else, our website is over at the FrogPants site, frogpans. com slash TMS. All right. Let's play a closing song. And then a benediction. Oh, this all sounds like closing time?
Starting point is 01:40:55 You want that or you want closing time. You don't have to stay, but you can't be here, right? Do I have the words? Exactly right. Wow, Semi-Sonic would be so proud that you got that. Great. Nailed it. Great.
Starting point is 01:41:07 How about one going out to Barbara? They're coming to get you a Barbara. Barbara. Barbara. Forgot to mention it was in your clip yesterday of the chilling adventures of Sabrina. I thought that was so funny. Oh, yeah. They've got some good references in there, for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yeah, it's pretty good. Barbara wrote in and said, I know this is last minute, so if you can't play my request on my birthday, January 6th, any day we'll do. Well, how about January 7th? Celebrating a birthday so close to Christmas. Takes a little more work, but I'm worth it.
Starting point is 01:41:35 How about a happy, upbeat song? Oh, Barbara. Barbara, they're playing a song, Barbara. Can't do it now. I love it. I can't not do it. I think we could all use an upbeat song today. How about something from the Get Up Kids?
Starting point is 01:41:52 I mean, right there in their name. You can tell they're upbeat. In 2008, they released an album called Udora, and they included this cover of Close to Me by The Cure. This is so good. So much fun. The Get Up Kids and Close to Me. Waited eyes for this, I made myself so sick, I wish I'd stay asleep today.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I thought this day would never end I never thought tonight could ever be so close to me Just try to see in the dark Just try to make it work I feel of fear Before your hair make the shapes come much too close
Starting point is 01:43:23 pull my eyes out hold my breath and wait till I shake But if I had your faith I could make it safe clean If only I was sure Head on the door was a dream I've waited hours for this, I made myself so sick, I wish I'd stay to sleep today. Never thought this day would end
Starting point is 01:44:23 I've never thought tonight could ever be It's close to me But if I had your faith And I can make it safely clean If only I was sure I had on the door street I'm going to be able to be. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Get more shows like this at FrogPants.com. It's still real to me, damn it. I hesitated playing that clip today because

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