The Morning Stream - TMS 2051: Never Go Full Shaman

Episode Date: January 14, 2021

Which Kennedy From MTV Was Downtown Julie Brown? Two and a Half 100 year olds. Lady Flask of Creamer. There are 4 Impeachments. I Don't Like Political Partieeeeeeeees! Legally Blonde 3 The Search for Spock. Squishy Resting Face. Move Away from Home to Develop Tentacles. You're Okay Until You Pee Brown. You Can't Say Dorkess Without Malorkess. Can I Get That $1.70 In Quarters? The Robot Dumps the Rice into the Thing. Deckard Cain Lives Upstairs. Lay a Trunk and Walk Away. A little science with Bobby. Storming The Castle with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Can anybody tell me what can I do with these lady bugs? The morning. stream rambling goes in podcast comes out you can't explain that good morning everyone welcome back to tms it's uh the morning stream for thursday january 14th 2021 i'm scott johnson he's brian ibitt hi hello and happy thursday to you thanks man i'm uh i'm drinking a warm drink out of my it's a frap mug here warm drink a drink a cold drink a drink a salt drink a drink a salt to drink to sweet drink it's a little chilly in here today because it's supposed to be in the 40s 50s and we didn't want to have the heater just blaring away so we kind of let it not be on all night and as a result it's a little chilly in the office but yeah gotta get a hoodie on drink warm beverage i'm drinking out of the same ember mug that has basically made the entirety of my coffee cup collection air quotes for those who are listening to the podcast yeah um uh I'm necessarily Although Tina still uses them.

Do you have, like, it's like there's like a cupboard up there that's just full of them and you just don't use it. Yeah, it's full of them. Actually, I take that back because at night I'll have tea. Yeah. And so I'll use those. Yeah, and you keep the ember business downstairs where you have access to the heater part of it, right? Okay. That makes sense.

I got my coffee cup. I got my, my lady flask. Oh, look at your lady flask. Yeah. It's my lady flask of creamer. Wait, does that stay refrigeration? sold in bed bath and beyond as a lady flask. So hold on, do you refrigerated or what do you do with that?

Yeah, I refrigerated, but it's also like a thermos inside. Oh, gotcha. So it lasts all day. I can kind of tell by listening. Nice. And then I've got, you know, my actual thermal carafe of coffee. Yeah, there you go. Brian is once again.

You'll hear me pour myself more and more cups as the day goes by. Once again, proving that none of us know how to drink coffee except Brian. I don't know if I do. So I just apparently drink a lot of coffee, probably more than I, more than I should. And you're okay until you pee brown. If you start peeing brown, you're in trouble. Yeah. So watch on for that.

I mean, your filters broken. I poop yellow, though. Is that a problem? Nah, it's okay. All right, poop a frappuccino. Is that an issue, Scott? That's normal. Is not too much coffee?

Is that a... Just too much information. That's all. Fine. Hey, I got a thing to tell you about. Here, check this out. So yesterday I was doing the math. and realized that, okay, in the history of, this is not, I'm not about to go political,

but I am going to discuss things that happen in the political world briefly, okay? Okay, all right. In the history of this country, what are we, 200 and? No way any of this can go wrong. No, I'm sure it'll be fine. So, I'm all, fully on board. So how old is the, how old are we, this country of ours? Hold on.

1776, so we're 200 and 2045 years. They're right, 245 years. Almost 250, somewhere in that range. Yeah, almost 250. Yeah. I course is 24. Which isn't a lot. That's two 100 old dudes and a 50 year old.

Like, it's not really that much. That's right. Yes. You know what I mean? Like somebody. I like that you, it's basically you measure, you measure time. Like some people measure the distance to the moon. It's if you put this person's life from end to end, it would be 200 year old guys and a 50 year old.

Right. So if you look at it from that perspective. there was a hundred-year-old guy. He lived and died. And the day he died, a baby was born. This is all true, by the way. It's literally happened. Somebody was born. And on that day, a guy who's 45 today was born. So all you 45-year-olds, you're just three, what are you? Third generation, really, technically, if everyone lived to be 100? That's right. I can't wait to we're five guys years old. That's going to be a great day. There'll be peanut shells on the floor. Well, we're going to eat like kings. So here's the thing. I got to thinking about it. We had a, we've had a total now of four impeachments in the history of this country. We had one for Andrew Johnson.

Some people always, some people confuse it with Andrew Jackson. That was not correct. Andrew Johnson was impeached for, actually gave a guy a job without somebody's approval. It was a pretty low bar then. Wow. Anyway, so that was one of them. Pretty innocuous, you know, it's like... Yeah, it was real small.

I mean, there were some other charges of, like, abuse of power or something, but none of that stuff stuck. What they got them on was that. So that was your first one. And then your second one, jump all the way forward to Billory Clinton. Billery Clinton. Yeah, old Billary Clinton there with his... Well, it depends on what your definition of is.

He got caught lying to a grand jury about whether or not he gave or he received it was on the receiving end of a receiving edge yes of a beege I did not have sexual relations oh yeah I guess I did I mean I guess I did I guess I did uh I did not can we define that real quick that was so stupid what a dumb time in history all right so that happened and that was he was impeached but not removed because it didn't make it through the Senate but it was still an impeachment in both of those things in his first 10 days yeah exactly

so he got a he got in trouble for lying about about a blowy okay right right and then you jump up to here and we got two in 14 months for Donald John Trump right we won't get into the details there but here's my point three of the four 75% of all impeachments I was alive for and you were alive for right you are here I see in the 200 in the two and a half hundred year olds, a hundred year old people, uh, history of this country. Yeah. 75% of its impeachments happened during our lifetime. During our lifetime. Now to make it weirder than the boy, the little grandy son that we got here. Yes. Yes. He has been alive. 50% of the yes. He's been alive for 50% of all impeachments. Two of them happen before he turns two years old. That's

just crazy. That is crazy. Anyway, there's the math for you. No, that is nuts. But does it mean does it mean that we're going to become more of a of a society that if you're on the other side, whether or not

you yeah, because I want to say, I want to phrase this in a way that doesn't make it sound like him at all saying that, oh, he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't mean to get that mom fired up. No, I know what you're saying. Are you worry that partisan litigiousness will keep growing up. We're going to see attempts at impeachment for Biden from the Republican Party.

We're going to see in the next, you know, the next administration, the side that didn't win is going to do everything they can to impeach. And I know, I know there's always been two sides. There's always been Republicans, Democrats, and I know, sure. Okay, independence and green party. Sure. Yeah, but what about the Whig Party, Brian? The Whig party.

The Whigs. God, I can't forget the wigs. Yeah. But, no, I mean, is that really just what we're going to see is this growing, A, wall of you're not going to get anything through if the other side has control zero, zip, even if it might be a good idea, you're just not going to get it through because you're the other side and attempts at impeachment in every administration. Well, the not get anything through part is already, that's a fixture. I mean, that's been here forever. Yeah, again, that's been. If you want to get something through, you either better control more than two branches of gut.

Well, two of, sorry, control at least the House and the Presidency or at least the Senate in the House or something, two of the three big ones or else you're screwed. But here's my feeling on what you just said. I think we'll actually dial way back on the impeachment stuff. But I don't see the partisanship stuff. You know, that's not going to get any better. better. I mean, not in the near future. I hope it does. I hope there's a whole generation of new leaders that come up that are more interested in figuring out ways to get stuff down. Yeah, maybe centric isn't the word, but that appeal to both sides. That's why I think maybe we need

maybe we just need to like, let's erase the whole party system, start over and say, what's wrong with this? Let's rebuild it. Yeah, and keep in mind, parties are not in the Constitution. It's got nothing to do with anything. This is all made up by us. We didn't, this isn't based on anything. So there's nothing in any of those sacred American documents that says there shall be two parties and then a couple of shitty ones outside of it that never win in anything

like the Green Party will have that and therefore man will only ever have two parties so saith the Lord. It doesn't exist we made parties up right the parties are made up the Star Trek universe there are no parties in the Star Trek universe that's right the parties don't exist utopic society that we see

Picard running around in that or you know I understand the need to they're just light There are no parties. Parties come from the need to organize, and I get that. So just more parties. Like, let's get away from this two-party system because, I don't know, feels like that would be at least closer to the idea of individualizing it

instead of having it being party-based. I don't know. Parties are weird. I haven't been to a party since March of last year. There's super spreader events, Scott. That's what it is. Is that what they're called now? Shoot.

All right. Also, oh, hey, we got an email from Robert. you were talking about movies before the show and we like to do it on the show because Brian and I happen to be big fans of movies. Yes. And you got this one from Robert, who says, as someone who was born in 1982, he's talking about movies that were like about your formative years or whatever. He says, my initial answer is dazed and confused.

Now he said this before you heard us talk about days and confused. He says, which had a resurgence and popularity in my high school year, 1997 to 2000. While it was clearly written about teens in the 70s, us 90s kids really connected with it. I will tell you that 20-somethings in the 90s also connected with it because I really latched onto that movie for whatever reason. The actual clothing styles had come full circle and they were irrelevant again. That's true.

You guys dressed like a bunch of dirty 70s people in the 90s. The movie feeds the false nostalgic narrative that the good old days were better than they were in reality, often popular with angsty teens. a second answer is Empire Records Excuse me Which hasn't come up yet We haven't talked about Empire Records

No good old Rex Manning Day Yeah Remind me who's in that Liv Tyler John Cusack in that No no John Cusack I want to say Ethan Embry Oh

Papa Georgio Papa Giorgio Papa Giorgio Um Yes shoot, who's the guy who's like the owner not Mantonag

Not, not, what's that guy's name? Robin Toney. Robin Toney, yeah, she's in there. I can't think of anything else. I mean, it's, this isn't the one where Steve Bouchemmy and Adam Sandler and the other guy all like Oh, it's metal metal heads. That's, what is the airheads?

Oh, airheads. Okay. Yes. Oh, yeah, Renee Zell I forgot that, actually, Renee Zellweger, of all the people in this thing who've really gone on to bigger careers, Zellwager is probably the biggest. What am I thinking of with Airheads? No, no, no, no, no, before that, when I was saying John Cusack, what am I thinking of? It's a record store. You're thinking of the about a boy?

It was the high fidelity, high fidelity. High fidelity. Yeah. That one I also see is... Both of those movies written by Nick... Offerman. Fawley. Nick Fawkes. Nick Hornby.

Nick Hornby. I want Nick Frost to be the writer. Now I'm disappointed. I do, too. Nick Hornby, I've got the books in my bookcase. They're both excellent. Actually, he's done a bunch of great books. But high fidelity and about a boy and just really, really good stuff.

They had that show briefly, high fidelity on Hulu, and it had Zoe Kravitz in it. Lenny Kravitz is done. Zoe Kravitz in it, yeah. It was all right. I never saw it, but really, that's why I heard it was really good. It got canceled because nobody watched it, but I thought it was all right. I mean, it seemed, it seemed like this was like a more true to the book sort of experience. Yeah. Whereas the movie was a little more. Except the main character was a, was a dude. Oh, in the book, is it a dude? It's a dude, yeah. in the book.

Well, she's great because she was in Mad Max Fury Road. One of the wives of Immorten Joe. So there you have that. There you go. Her greatest work is behind her. All right. Moving on. He says, he says this.

The actual, or the Empire Records, about 20-somethings may not qualify. Then he said, the chat room is not wrong when they say, can't hardly wait, which is a movie I had forgotten about. I think you give clueless enough. I don't think you give clueless enough credit because it is another perfect answer to your question. Well, that's directed at me, and let me just say this about clueless one more time. Sure. It's fine. Okay.

If we want to celebrate airheady girls, go ahead. That's fine. Let's go ahead and just, let's have a movie about a dumb girl. That's fun. Let's too bad. You know, she's, uh, share wasn't as much an airhead as much. as she had different priorities

until about halfway through the movie and then and then got out of that. That's true. And that is the point of it, right? That's the journey. Yeah, yeah. There's a maturation there.

I get it. Yeah. I don't know why that wouldn't ring for me. It was probably... But no, I mean, because it's, because everything you see, like, if you're shown a clip of clueless, it's, it's,

um, Alicia Silverstone being kind of doofy. It's like the first, the first quarter of the movie. movie when she's dressed in that matching tablecloth outfit and she's worried about her. It's basically

the Reese Witherspoon character from Legally Blonde. I'm glad you said that because right this second I was thinking this is the problem. I conflate those two movies. Not that I confuse them with each other, but to me they're in the same vein. And I know they're not. They're not. They're not. They're not. They're definitely not.

And they're making a new one of those I heard. Is that the truth? Oh, really? Really blonde, I think so. Hold on. Legally Blonde 3 Because there's been Yeah, here it is 2022

Yeah, this is happening Hmm Rees She's in it Atlanta Ubach and Jennifer Coolidge I like those people So Jennifer Coolidge Bringing her

Yeah bringing her along Dragging her out again Stiffler's mom Making a turn She is great I mean I love Jennifer Coolidge And all the Christopher guest stuff

But Yeah, she's awesome She is She makes me really uncomfortable sometimes, though. I mean, it's because she's good at her characters. It's like the Rebel Wilson kind of stick. Yeah, it's very good. She was also, for a Seinfeld reference,

she was the massage therapist that Jerry was trying to make her give him a massage all the time. What is she really? Oh, wow. People forget that was Jennifer Coolidge. God, I completely forgot that was her. Anyway, that's happening. So look forward to that.

2022, you guys. Reserve your seats now for Legally Blonde 3. Yep. Coming soon. Seats will remain available until showtime. Yep. The only downside or the only nervous thing here is the director, Jamie Suck. Jamie suck? Oh my gosh. S-U-K. What?

Suck. Maybe it's Suc. I'd be Suc. I don't know. Maybe Sook. Sure. They have made one short film and no theatrical films, and there is no picture of them, and we have no idea who that person is. So good luck with that. All right. Ryan?

Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go. There you go. let's do some science today yeah love this yeah boy the thursdays become the day to like get educated right agree yeah almost by accident because i didn't really think about it while we were doing it like there's wendy then there's science we call it legitimacy thursday yeah legit as opposed to the old illegitimate Thursday we used to have right exactly yes all right here's a jury and wendy holy cow I know it's crazy here's a sounder for it I think science is cool.

I do too. And so here to help us with a scientific topic of the week is Bobby Franks, who joins us all the way from where he lives. I always want to say

you're in California, but you're not. You do, but it's South Carolina. Me and Dunaway are holding it down in the South, trying to keep things.

Why do I do that? You're a California guy in a South Carolina town. I've done this since the ANTP season you were on, since, like, before that, I just for whatever reason you are in California

somewhere in like, van eyes or something and you live there and right you probably weren't shorts because it was 80 today or something that's all that's true anyway because it's south carolina but that's good point uh well you're holding it down good there well done we need more good south carolinians and you're one of them i don't know what that means i have something i uh something that you might find interesting like a trivia you were talking earlier about in the show about um putting people's lives end to end in the history of the you United States. Oh, yeah, sure. I just saw a YouTube video, a V-sauce video, where he pointed out that

Harriet Tubman was alive during both Thomas Jefferson being alive and also Ronald Reagan. Oh, wow. That's a spin. Wow, that's crazy. Jeez. Yeah. Well, so somebody just died today, and they are 100 today. That means they were born in 19. 21 right yeah yes so far so good so so so if you think about the things everybody saw if you were born in 21 the things you saw from let's see even just 10 years old 31 and forward you that's a that's a massive timeline of progression change technological jumps like that's just a crazy that's crazy I mean we're going to be able to say the same thing we saw the birth of the internet we saw mobile phones become you know something that was attached to the middle of your car and then taken out and then flipped open but then now become the the center of your life and the reason people fall off the sides of the Grand Canyon yeah well think about it like if you're in your 50s you've been alive for like 20% of our nation's life that's just insane to even say those words see that's the way to look at this that's cool that's weird but I guess every well okay so

if you were, oh man, now my brain's going places. That is, that's just, I don't know. I guess it just has a way of shrinking it all down. Still like all I get two and a half hundred year old men. Yeah. I do enjoy that one. That's not bad. All right.

Just the new show starring Charlie Sheen and John Cryer. There you go. We're going to do a story today about something that isn't about COVID vaccines. It isn't about that sort of stuff. Take a steer. Instead, we want to look at cats. Why? Why cats today, Bobby? What's happening?

Because we like looking at cats. Well, you know, I just thought, I guess, we bring it down to Earth. I don't know, we've been doing such serious stuff with COVID. And we'll have to touch base on that every once in a while, I suppose, because it's our life lately. But I was looking through, and also science news is pretty hard to find this time of year. Let's be honest. But I saw this news report that talked about that. that science research study that was done on the facial expressions of grumpy cats.

You know, I should say this like a morning show, right? Like, hey, Scott, have you heard of grumpy cats on the internet? Well, hold on a second. After we talk about, we talked to our weather guy, we'll be right back with more about these grumpy cats. Brian, have you heard of these brun? I've heard of a grumpy cat. Are you saying there's more than one? Well, that's the thing, right?

Everybody, when you say grumpy cat, they all think of that one. cat that finally died that was so popular or whatever and they got millions. Yeah, but grumpy cats in general, there are breeds of cats. They're like flat-faced cats are often referred to like grumpy breeds of cats. They all have that grumpy-looking face. And so there was some research that was done looking at the facial expression of these cats and looking into their ability to communicate with us with facial expressions and whether or not flat-faced breeds of cats

have an impaired ability to do that. So what they did was they took thousands of cat-face pictures that they just sourced on Google images. And then a bunch of them that were in like neutral settings, supposedly neutral faces. And then they took a bunch of cat pictures of cat faces during during surgery

to have their uterus is removed were they awake during that what's the deal with that I don't I think they were anesthetized at some point but I guess their idea was they're probably going to have a pained face during this surgery

so they reliably could say like okay these cats are in pain and these ones are not and they wanted collection of faces on a piece of paper that they can circle to say, all right, how bad is the pain right now? Is it this squished face or this squished face? So wait, so what you're saying to me, because I've never thought of a cat is very expressive anyway. So if there's like my daughter's cat, Decker, Kane upstairs, whenever he sees me

or looks me in the face, I don't know what he wants. I can't tell. There's no difference to me than him saying, I'm hungry to, I just want to be in here because the dog's around and I want to tease the dog or whatever. I don't know that. I can't tell the difference anyway. And so you're saying these cats are even less expressive than that. Right. So cats are actually very expressive and even just in their face. It's just that humans have a very hard time interpreting a cat's facial expressions.

There's actually been research done on that particular topic as well. The more people who have a lot of interaction with a lot of different kinds of cats, so say like veterinarians, they score pretty well on being able to identify cat facial expressions, but most people cannot do very well at all. But they have like a dozen different facial expressions that are pretty easily uniquely categorized to express how they're feeling on their face. It's just hard for us to interpret those.

It's interesting. So these flat-faced cats are just, they're hoaxed. Right, well, the pained expression in a cat actually is that kind of like, squished is kind of a squished like the features of the face kind of go inward toward the middle of the face

and then the cheeks go broad out so basically like the way a flat face cat looked and so what they did was they analyzed all these and they found out that the variation between normal cats and their pained expression normal I shouldn't say I'm sorry to all the

flat face cats out there the abnormalization of cat has squishy rest of I'm sorry, I'm about to be, I'm about to be canceled right now. You can feel it. We've got cat lovers, man. You can feel it. So the variation between flat-faced cats, like Persian cats, for example, or non-flat-face cats, like an Egyptian long-featured cat, is much less in the flat-face cats.

And it just means that we have an even harder time distinguishing and being able to tell. at least when these cats are in pain, but probably their facial expressions in general. So I always thought, or I thought I heard, and I could be wrong, but I thought the whole thing with grumpy cat, the grumpy cat, was that that cat had a form of, I forgot what they called it. It may have been like, sort of a, someone compared to like if cats could have Down syndrome or, you know, a condition where your face is, in particular, is a sign of the thing that you, that you've got like some chromosonal thing

that's what that was and that's different though than what you're talking about right that's a whole separate bag of chips well grumpy cat's expression was like extreme right it had like the angry looking eyes and the downturned mouth and stuff like that I think if I remember correctly

that the grumpy cat had feline dwarfism and that caused that that's what it was yeah leave it to me to jump to five other things that weren't the actual thing. That's me. That's what I do here. It's very scientifically proven. I mean, Persians have that

that kind of perma frown just because of their the shortness of their face. Yeah, it's just smushed kind of smushed in. And that, so there's a reason I wanted to bring this up and that I think it's important that we talk about it. And it's because

serious, everyone. It's because I can't hold a straight face. is because we give cats a lot of crap for not being emotive like dogs, okay? Yeah. I mean, technically they give us a lot of crap as well, but keep going. But that's true. But the fact is, we have selectively bred these cats to be the way that they are.

So how much of an injustice is it that we selectively breed cats to have harder to read expressions and then we turn around and give them crap for it? And then I just think we all need to be nicer to cats. Wow, look at that. I hadn't thought about that. That's our fault. Solution to the problem. Yeah, we do this.

All pets are basically like hundreds of years of evolution, or maybe thousands of years of, maybe more than that of evolution. And we crammed it all into like 50 years of turning a fox into a freaking dog, you know? Right. And literally it was like, oh, this cat looks funny. Let's make more of them.

Yes, right, exactly. Let's reward them for this behavior. And oh, all of a sudden it becomes like a, predisposition because we're we're kind of training them to do certain things i get the most angry email yesterday it's funny you're bringing all this up because i have a i have some in-laws who breed i forgot the breed of the dog but they breed these dogs and they're very expensive very sought-after dogs i want to say they go for like three four grand a piece when they're when they're all done and they've made two big breeds of it so far and somebody caught wind on a show

I don't even know what show I mentioned it on, but I mentioned they do this. All three of our dogs, the three dogs in our house right now are all rescues, but I mentioned this, and I got that most angry email about breeding. Like I guess nobody wants breeders now. That's a bad thing, right? Yeah, I guess they're real. They're super pissed. And I think it's because some people, well, these people in particular were like,

look, there's no shortage of dogs who need homes in shelters and otherwise, you know, bad situations. so why would you go breed a bunch of dogs and spend $3,000, $4,000 on that dog to, you know, instead of doing this, which will save an animal. Instead, you've got to have your little fancy animal or whatever. That was kind of their take. And I don't know. I don't know why they're going after me because A, I'm not breeding the dogs. And B, I don't know what B is. There's no B.

I don't have a B. There's no step three. There's no step three. We're two. I don't know how I feel about breeders in general, but I think that, particular argument maybe isn't great. Because, I mean, how else could you have, like, well, you know, don't buy this instead buy that because the extra money you're spending could be going to charity.

Like, I don't know. Yeah. Like, it gets messy. It gets messy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Nobody wants messy unless you're a cat. All right.

Although, oh. Actually, this is another thing about cats that piss me off. Most cats are fine. Whatever. I like cats. They're fine. But Deckered. Deckered.

the cat who is upstairs. He, unlike every other cat I've ever known, every cat I've known when they use their litter box, they attempt to bury what they just made. That's the point of a litter box, is not just to have a place to do it, but a place to cover it as well. That's why it's loose.

Cats are one of only two species on earth that cover their poop. Right. And so you would think, given that notoriety of a cat being one of the two species in the world that covers its poop, that this cat would cover its poop. But I'm here to tell you the Decker cane the cat does not cover his poop ever he goes in lays a trunk and then

walks away as if no one else is going to do it he's the equivalent of the the frat boy that calls everybody in to check out the size of the duke he just left in the upstairs i mean you may not be wrong there's another kitty in the house right now temporarily long story but maybe he wants to show off to that cat but he will not bury his poo meanwhile i got this spastic freaking uh men pin uh italian greyhound mix rainer the female dog who i take outside all the time and when she peeps her poops she'll do it and then she'll walk eight feet and then she'll start kicking the ground as if she's bearing it in the wrong direction five feet from where it was if she's got this built-in weird broken initiative but the cat doesn't like what's gone what's wrong

with this cat is deckard the the main coon uh yes it is a main coon it's funny that you bring up main coons because in this study they were like the aberrant animal that that did not match any of the other correlations in the study they're almost not a cat. Yeah maybe they're just not cat like

Maine Coons are dicks is what I'm saying that's what we're getting to. And my daughter loves that cat but she says that while it scratches her while she's covering up a poo that he didn't cover. Like she has the patience of Job. Is that the right guy? He's the biblical

He's the one who's known for patients. They were all waiting in the waiting room. He would see so many on a regular Monday. Exactly, yes. The waiting room here. There you go. The waiting room. Hey, well, this is great.

I would like to hear more science things, and it turns out you have a podcast that does just that. Why don't you tell people what it is and where to get it? Yeah, you can hear me. Every Monday we put out all around science. That's my science podcast. Me and my co-host, Mora, we talk about science news and generally science topics and it's a lot of fun it's it's it's a it's less like the science

podcast you get out there which which kind of like dryly report the science news and and are boring yeah and ours is very entertaining and that's why you should be listening to it nice i like it throw a little shade on the other science podcast and promote your own this is the way to do it this is the way i work back when i heard that's how marketing work that's when i started the instance, I did a lot of talk like that. Like, yeah, all these other shows suck. I'm going to make my own. Exactly. That's kind of what you do with TMS, right?

Yeah. Morning shows suck. It's the morning radio. Yeah. But we're punching down. No, we're punching up, right? Because the radio stations are still, you know, big. And so Brian and I are punching up when we say that.

We're punching up. Yeah, as long as you're doing that. Yeah, as long as you're punching up, everything's fine. It's Bobby Franks, everybody. I like that segment. It's fun. It is. It's great. It's a, it's a cool new addition to the family. It's a rare thing we do on the show is add new content. So what we're saying, Bobby, is you have our addresses and we require minimum payments.

Tide. I think we call it Tide. Oh, is it a Tide? Okay. 10% of your earnings. All right. Let's get here to this right here. We're going to do some news, and it's brought to you by. Yes, Graham McPherson is turning 60, actually turned 60 yesterday, born in Hastings, Sussex, England. But you don't know him as Graham McPherson. You know him as Suggs. He's the lead singer who's telling you about his house in the middle of the street, or it must be love, or his baggy trousers, or one step...

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Our house. That was where we used to sleep. Oh, she's saying she's kidding. Okay, good. Oh, she, okay. All right. Well, that'll teach us. Never read the chat room, I guess.

Yeah, that's a lesson there. Don't believe everything the chat room says because you don't know. Nope, you have no idea. All right, let's move on to this Florida man story. We've had a few of those this week. Florida man. You could argue January's been all about a certain Florida man. You could.

Also, isn't it illegal to live in your, business in Florida? I don't think you can do that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We'll get into it. Florida man accused of setting his own truck on fire to give deputies something to do.

Nice. Good. You guys look bored. Let me give you something to do. Yeah, what are you all doing over there? Nothing? How about this? You got time to lean? You got time to clean. That's right. My mom used to say those words. Yeah, that was Taco Bell mantra from Jam,

the manager in her polio Sauter suit. Yeah. Did she, hmm, Jan. Why is that familiar? Polyester suit

and someone named Jan. Why is that? Why is that ringing a bell? Probably the Brady Bunch. I don't know. You know what? Maybe. That show featured a person named Jan and polyester suits.

Marsha, Marcia, Marcia. All right. A Florida man set his on truck of flame. He wanted to give deputies something to do, according to the Ocaluza County Sheriff's office. Okalusca? Okalusa.

Sure. Deputy said they received reports of a loud explosion on Mayor Creek Road. They found a 2002 Chevrolet Silverado fully engulfed in flames. Let me take this as a reminder to go watch 1984's Silverado. That is a fantastic film. Great movie. One of my favorite westerns.

Sure. When authorities arrived on the scene, 28-year-old Kevin Murphy, why is that name familiar? Kevin Murphy. Is that one of Britney Spears boyfriend or something? There's an actor named Kevin Murphy isn't

Kevin Murphy Why is he? I know Kevin Who's the kid who was on Entourage? This is his name Kevin Murphy, the actor? I don't know. I never watched Entourage.

Is that bad? Is that the thing I should go back to? Brian, did I miss out? Not seeing Entourage? No. Okay. That's a thing in time and it stood for what it was

and I can just leave it. I don't need to. Yeah. Okay. It's not like the Sopranos where that's awesome and everyone should see it. It's not like that. Oh, Kevin Murphy is the voice and puppeteer of Tom Servo on Mystery Science Theater. That's it.

I knew it was familiar. That's why you know it. Yep. Oh. Okay. Anyway, this guy, not that Kevin Murphy. Not that guy. No, different guy.

He was placed in handcuffs. And when deputies searched him, they said they found a glass pipe that was used to smoke methamphetamine. Oh. Well. Blue ice. Really, there's a wrinkle to the story I didn't see coming.

Weird. So they had that in his pocket, had a folded up dollar bill with traces of meth in his wallet. So he had a buck on him. When questioned, Murphy said he wanted something for the sheriff's office to do

and he wanted to give himself an early Christmas presence so he set his truck on fire. Record show Murphy claimed he poured gas inside the Chevy's cab and then under the truck and then created a trail away from the vehicle to set the fire, just like some kind of cartoon.

Oh, that's funny, because I just did a giff about this, chat. I'm going to show you guys. Hold on. I just did this yesterday while I was watching Looney Tunes. That's Bugs Bunny with one of those trails, and then he poofs it out there at the end. Love that. Yes. That's good. By the way, can I tell you why my head went to the kid on Entourage?

Of course. The actor's name is Kevin Connolly. He played a character named Eric Murphy. Oh, my gosh. Really? He was a Kevin who played a Murphy, which is why. That's great. Why it went there.

That's great. I love that kind of stuff. If there's two reasons to watch Entourage, and if neither of these appeal to you, then you can just keep skipping it. But Jeremy Piven Azari Gold is one of the great TV characters created. Is he just like all the other Jeremy Piven rolls, or is it a different kind of? He's kind of a lot like the other Jeremy Piven rolls, but a lot darker. Okay. All right.

And it's the, it's where you get the first taste of an Aquaman movie. directed by James Cameron that never came to be. Is that really? I didn't know this was the thing. Yeah, there was the movie within a movie or the movie within a TV series was James Cameron's Aquaman. It's probably some YouTube thing I could look at. Easily.

Easily. Maybe I'll do that. Yep. All right. Anyway, where the hell was I? Back to meth Kevin Murphy and his setting his truck on fire. Definitely said no one was injured, but the fire did cause damage to

nearby vehicles and buildings. This is according to the Dorkest Fire Department. Yes. Dorkas. Dorkas. It's D-O-R-C-A-S, but that's how you say that. So take that, you weirdos. And it's Sister County Malorgas.

Because you can't say Dorcas without Malarcus. Killing me. That was too funny. That was good. Murphy's facing charges of second-degree arson, possession of methamphetamine, a possession of drug paraphernalia, and being so dirt poor, you only had $1.

All right. Moving on, here's a Starbucks story. Sometimes you'll go to Starbucks, right, once in a while? Yeah, maybe about once every couple weeks. I usually go there to get ground coffee for the French press, and if I'm there, I'll pick up an almond milk latte or something. Well, if you're ever feeling litigious, apparently you can bring some pretty silly lawsuits against that company. Sweet. All over it.

The Starbucks gift card lawsuit spills into arbitration. The dispute started at a WeHo Starbucks. I don't know what WeHo means. West Hollywood. Oh, West Hollywood. Is that what they call themselves? Yeah, like South Houston Street is Soho. Like all these... We have the Rhino District, which is the River North.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah. What do we have? like, I don't know, anything cool like that. You think about it. SoCal is kind of like that. We call it the 801. There you go. That's good, too. Well, technically that band that you played on the show called it that.

And so now I called it that. But now you guys call it. I love it. I think as ever since I heard that song, which is a fantastic song and I got super hooked on that band as a result. I do it all the time now. So people are like, were you born her? Oh, yeah. Born and raised in the 801, I'll say. Yeah. I love that. Anyway, where is it here? Oh, so here's the deal. You're going to laugh because this is so stupid. A lawsuit filed by a man

alleges Starbucks Corporation in 2019 wrongfully denied him $1.70 cash redemption from the balance of his gift card in one of its West Hollywood stores was put on hold by a judge Wednesday due to a dispute whether the matter should be resolved in arbitration or not.

Robert Paskey brought the suit into the lawsuit. Angeles Superior Court on March 12th, 2020, seeking compensatory and punitive damages as well as a court order that Starbucks provide cash redemptions for gift cards having a balance of less than $10. So basically it boils down to this. He went in there, had a buck 70 left on his card. They wouldn't give him cash equivalent for it.

They said you've got to use it toward a thing. When you buy a gift card, it's not the same as cash. You've given that store money in exchange for the promise of having that amount to spend at their store. I'll spend half of it at the store and get the rest back in cash, please. No, that's not how it works. No, it's not how it works. But I can't believe he's doing this. So he's trying to get, it doesn't say how much he wants.

I guarantee it's more than a buck 70. Yeah, that it is. He wants a buck 70 plus all of his court costs, right? Yeah, lawyer fees. Yeah, F off. F right off with your card with a buck 70 on it. Dush nozzle. A-hole. That's like half of coffee. You're going to get another one anyway. Right. Just buy a coffee and apply the balance to the coffee and you're done.

Yeah. What were you going to do with the buck 70? You're going to go, give it to me in quarters. I got to get to the arcade. This is an injustice. How much is a cake pop? Oh, too much. How much is a biscotti? Oh, too much. How much is, uh... How much is that? That, I don't know. What else he even get there? Just buy a coffee. That's why you were there. Oh, I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed by this guy. I don't even know him and I'm mad. Can I buy a new gift card?

Yeah, $1.70 gift card. Anyway, other Starbucks stores in California of the same practice and the writing on the back of the company's cards states that the gift cards are not redeemable for cash. So once again, these are the terms of service to which you are obliged to follow. Quit pretending the government is censoring you and quit pretending your card is important. I'm guessing because it was a $10 gift card, I'm guessing it's not something he bought himself. Like, I don't see him walking in Starbucks. Let me buy a $10 gift card. This is probably something that was included with a Christmas present or an office bonus or something like that.

Yeah. And he wants the cash. It's like, take it up with the person who bought it. You know what I would have done? If I was the barista at the counter, I think I would have just pulled a buck 70. I would have pulled two bucks out of my pocket and said, keep the change and freaking get out of here is what I would have done. Yeah. You can still have the gift card.

Here's the money if you're so worried about it. I mean, technically, that's what he was. asking for but yeah yeah but he wanted the company to give him money not uh nice barista scott exactly who always gets his name wrong every time he goes in there for a half-calf double foam extra hot i'll have mocha caliente whatever i will have a grande ice mocha frappuccino and some lettuce because he's a turtle because he's a turtle

that's the joke that's the joke he's like a turtle man very well done yeah Bobby why does Mitch McConnell have that that grumpy cat face because there's something

is he in pain yeah is that genetic is that uh have we bred that into him what's going on with that face that's right oh I love that um all right

let's move on to uh and we have one yeah we got time for one more story Um, Moli's futuristic robot kitchen assistant can cook up to 5,000 recipes from scratch. Yeah. Look at this thing. I saw that thing.

Look at that. Do you want one? No. Okay. I feel like I might. Close to Rosie. I mean, we're getting pretty close to having Rosie, but, uh. Chatroom, there's a photo for you.

That thing is pretty gnarly. Yeah, you know where I saw that thing? I think I remember seeing that in, uh, it was called. Glados. Right. She was telling you to go jump through some walls while she made food.

Cake is a lie. There's a whole thing on here, but I'll basically just give you the rundown at the robotic, or excuse me, they displayed this company

Moli Robotics, displayed the world's first automated robotic kitchen at CES 21, which is happening, well, just is ending now. System features a dexterous robot

integrated into a luxury kitchen that prepares freshly cooked meals at the touch of a button and even does the dishes a short time later. At the heart of the new tech are two robotic arms fully articulated with hands that make the cooking process more flexible. Moli robotics created these two arms in partnership with Shuck Company. That's a weird name.

The upper arms are said to be able to reproduce the movements of the human arms quite precisely. I don't know how this. This is a practical. I'm watching it try to stir some. rice and it looks it's all clumsy but you know what i'm going to go ahead and make a note here huge success yeah huge success well i get the references very good thank you thank you very much uh so if you want a robotic kitchen c s 21 found it for you it's um moly robotics

that's the question yeah and i'm sure this is super cheap like cost barely a dime oh yeah it's something like 30 000 a 30 000 to 55 000 pounds yeah so whatever that uh translates to yeah And what are you supposed to do? Like, this thing looks like it just takes up so much your kitchen. And it's hanging from the ceiling, but, you know, I mean, it doesn't know you're right next to it when it's swinging that knife around after chopping some celery. Yeah, this needs to have, like, proximity sensors and stuff so that doesn't, you don't die. Also, it's knowing where all these ingredients are all based on where the ingredients are. So if you mix it up and put, you know, salt where the sugar should be, exactly.

This thing's not going to know. Yeah, that beef stroganoff doesn't look good. And then they just like dump them. They really, this robot dumps the rice into a thing. Like it's right there in the video. You can watch this robot dump the rice into a thing. There are better flavor you can get away from the doorkerno. Oh, that's so stupid.

All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. Sister Wendy will be here. We're going to do a little therapy Thursday. She's got a great topic, and we're going to discuss it. Come on back for that. Before that, though, music will break with Brian. I'll get the selection of music from his music selection, Brian. So when I see a song come across my desk, an indie musician song sent to me,

and it's called Creep, I think, oh, is it a cover of the Radiohead song? No. Oh, is it a cover of the TLC song? Nope, okay. So immediately I'm thinking, oh, another song now called Creep, like we needed another one? but then I listen to it and I got to say I'm hooked. This is performed by Sidney Sherwood. She's got a brand new EP coming out called Headspace.

Comes out at the end of February and this is the first single from it. It's created by Jared Dillon of Red 13 Studios and this first single off of her EP, as I mentioned, produced and co-written by Brian Craddock, who's the guitarist of Dotry, the band Dotry, named after the guy Dotry from American Idol. um this thing is great it's a really really good song so i'm all right with another creep let's bring it on sidney sherwood from her brand new album headspace here is creep We've all got our dearness

We've all got our reasons for dealing this heavy back is the way we do It takes It takes It takes a hold of you

Oh no Here comes again Oh no here comes again Yeah Feels like I'm trapped inside a room No flies, no way to see you do Like now I never knew A beautiful mind could be so cool

It's like I'll fly down on your side I'd be had a smile but I can't lie Like now I never knew A beautiful mind can be so cool Just in hell Exhale comes to 10 before the start scream back in

and I've been living with these goals and I know it's time to let them go I know I know after the sun goes down you try to try creeping back around but now I got you figured it out oh no

here comes again oh no here comes again yeah feels like I'm trapped inside room no plighted no way to see through light down I never knew

a beautiful mind would be so cool I'm lying I'm not on the upset I'm behind a smile but I can't lie Locked down, I never knew A beautiful mind

A beast of cool Just in hell Ettecels count to 10 For the thoughts Be back in For the thoughts To be back Oh

Oh Oh Oh let those thoughts creep back in Oh no It goes again Don't let you

Give me down I'm trapped inside of me No, I'm trying to see you Light down and never knew A beautiful mind can be so cool So I'm flying down on the other side I've been high behind a smile But I can't lie

I've never knew A beautiful mind It'll be so cool Just in here Excel counts it tens Inhale, Excel comes to Sam for the God's free back in. For the God's creep back in. For the God's creep back in.

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like all his whole family and his Zoom call. Oh, yeah, that was great. And I love the, in the web browser part up top. Yeah, it's how to Zoom. How to Zoom. And like, that was a really clever thing they did. That was great. Really was, yes.

Very well done, Mr. Fletcher. I want to know if that was his idea, her idea, a combination of both, or if the kids had anything to do with it. That's what I want to know. I know. Both he and Christine have such a great sense of humor that easily could have been either. Yeah, that's true. Scott Fletcher has one of those cat faces.

Until he smiles, you don't know if he's mad. or not. Oh, I know. Yes. He's got bitchy resting face. Bitchie resting face Fletcher is what we call them. I also have it. My daughter has it. My sister Wendy does not have it. She has helpful person face. When she's resting, people see her and go, do you work here? Do you know where the pots and pans are in the Walmart? Well, she shouldn't go into a Best Buy wearing a blue t-shirt and khakis. Never, never do that. That's what I'm saying. We're to a target. By the way, really quickly, for those of you who haven't found out yet the pinball festival in Texas that we were planning on going to for obvious reasons has been canceled and pushed to 2022 but we still have our reserved room and flight and all that stuff for

it so plan on plan on it yeah i think by then maybe things will be great and i would love to go to that thing that would be awesome but before all that everyone expected it but we decided to make let's make it official and make sure people know seems about right Welcome to the program, my sister, but more importantly, a therapist and someone who comes on the show every Thursday and helps us out with our own problems. Wendy, welcome back. Hi, you with your own problems? Yeah, we got our own problems. Speaking of problems, man, tomorrow's a weird day because our mother, my mother, your mother, our mother, is going into major surgery.

She's having brain surgery, although the surgery is to remove something that isn't necessarily in her brain or on her brain. it is pushing on her brain, but it's coming from the outside in from her skull. And our mom is not a spring chicken these days. She's 82 years old. And tomorrow she gets the surgery and also about five days of in-hospital recovery and then probably some home assisted stuff. But I've been trying to find out what's going on. But I don't think they're going to let us see her like at all.

So it sucks. I don't know what to do. Like, I'm trying to think what I can do, and there's really, I mean, what can I do? I can't do anything. Yeah. I mean, Tina's dad, Tina's dad has been having chemo or finished up his chemo treatments right at the end of the year last year. And I had to go to all those alone. Like, we couldn't go with him.

His wife couldn't go with him. Like, he just basically had to sit in the chair alone, which sucks. That does suck. So, I don't know. Not that that's today's topic, but I don't know if I've very. ever felt quite this useless, you know, in a situation like this, because normally, in a normal time, all of us would be taken tomorrow off. We would all be at the hospital arriving with her, signing her in, talking to her before they wheel her off. Like, we would be having all of these things,

and we can't do it. It's just dumb. It's dumb. I hate it. I hate it. It is dumb. It seems like. It is, it is dumb. And I mean, I would be there, and I told me, should I sit off? Things go south. I'll get on a plane, but I need someone to tell me. I'm like, I don't, you know what I mean? Yeah, we got to keep doing. And then I can only see her if she's dying because then I'm going to get her COVID. You know, it's such a.

Right. It's so effed up. And the big, my biggest, I think I'm trying not to do, there's a tendency. Maybe today's a little about this. So you tell me if this leads into that or not. But there is a feeling I have of. When I think about, okay, we can't see or we can't do this, can't do this, I get very resentful that we as a people, as a nation, couldn't be better at this. Well, plenty of other countries in similar situations in terms of population and everything else did do this.

So why couldn't we freaking do this and do it much earlier so that not just me, but hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people affected by just stuff like my mom's thing? like someone having a heart attack, like somebody fell down the stairs, like whatever it may be, that we could all, we could at this stage be with them. Like, we could have done it. But we didn't freaking do it. And so part of me wants to blame everybody who didn't try very hard. And obviously that's going to get me zero distance any direction. Like I'm not going to get anywhere with that kind of feeling in my guts.

But it's hard not to. It's hard not to feel that way. You know, we tried really hard. We still are. We're still being, like, ridiculously careful, constantly turning people down for, like, you know, Kim's, all of Kim's friend, their little flock of friends are like, we should have girls night. We'll mask up and go to this place that has nice airy room in it. And Kim's like, no, I've got a grandson. I got stuff.

I don't want to, I'm not going. Scott's mom's about to get brain surgery. We're not going because we don't know what that looks like yet. Like, we're still being good and everybody's not, and it makes me mad. So, anyway, does that lead to our discussion, Wendy, or no? Actually, let me say this, though. And maybe this is like my inner chipper silver lining, part of me. But maybe it's because I spent twice in my child-rearing experience,

I got two kids with birth defects that were the best version of a birth defect you can get. And I think mom has the best brain tumor you can get. And maybe I got to stop doing that. But it really is. It's one of those slow growing. The only reason it got discovered is because she started to have some effects from it's a size of an orange pushing on her brain, which is kind of insane that the brain can just sort of compensate for that long while something grows in there. That's crazy. Well, because the doctor said like what, like 12 years this thing has been growing or something?

Yeah, I think it's more than that. But, yeah, and there's a type of tumor that is like that. It's just so, so, so slow. And you just wouldn't know it's there until there's some kind of effect from it, you know? Right. You know, my sister-in-law had a similar type of brain tumor, but it was in a very different place. So it was very problematic. But it's similarly not cancerous and then slow, slow growing.

And they think she probably had it as a child. And then it sort of started causing problems at 26. So, yeah, I mean, that sounds dumb. I'm glad it's that and I guess I am too like there are there that's the other thing you're you're forced you have to force yourself to do in all of this is go well you think I have it bad and then just look around you like there are there are people in way harder situations um whether it's this this sort of thing or uh you know somebody with full blown all inside their brain cancer and they're 32 and uh have four little babies that they can't take care of

Now, like, there's a lot worse situations out there. And I'm trying to remember that all the time. And then I'll look over at Cam and, you know, she's upset and crying because her sister has stage four cancer and is now dealing with all of that stuff. And another reason for her to be careful because she needs to be around in case something goes south. But here's the thing. If they does, if something does go south, what am I supposed to do? You know what I mean? Like, do I run over to St. Mark's Hospital?

Or I think I was born, by the way. That's a weird thing. where they're doing the surgery and do I just go over there and demand to see my mom? Like, what do I do? I can't, right? They just say, sir?

I don't know. And I don't know what people have. I mean, the other aspect of coming in at this stage of the game with COVID is hospitals, I mean, if they're not overrun, which is happening everywhere, they have protocols and ways to do things maybe differently than at first, right?

At first it was, I mean, before we knew it wasn't, as contagious on surfaces, right? And other factors and like nurses wearing garbage bags because they didn't have protective gear. I mean, we're at a different stage in that regard. So I would assume they'd have some type of here's the protocol. You can come in and say whatever, goodbye.

But that can't happen because I have a three hour flight. So you just stand top of it, Scott, let me know. Yeah, I will. I don't know. You know, they're going to, I assume we have to rely on. I wish I had direct contact with the doctors themselves. Maybe I need to figure out a way to finagle that because right now John's the keeper of the of the crypt right like he's got he's my layer and that's a bad it's a it's not a great layer it's kind of a rickety got some holes in 89 year old layer yeah an 89 year old layer he doesn't have a tumor but boy does he have a rumor and I couldn't find a good word that rhymes but anyway the point is he's a little hard to deal with when it comes to that so I'd like to get a little less filtered view on it and maybe between Misha. and I we can figure that out today but I don't know anyway it's one of those things but you had

texted me last night and said hey what if we talked about um this idea or this problem that we have as human beings that other people's experiences aren't valid or real or aren't happening unless we are experiencing them or have had experience or yes exactly or have had some sort of experience with it it's kind of like um I always think of this I know this is morbid and I apologize guys for bringing it up again because I think it makes me look kind of stupid. But when I see a movie or a cartoon, a cartoon, let's say, because I've just been watching a bunch of old Looney Tunes to kind of make me feel like I'm a kid again. And when somebody gets their head cut off, my first thought is, isn't, ha, that's funny.

Their head was cut off. My first thought is, I wonder if people whose family members have had their heads cut off can't watch this. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like if you're, let's say you're something. who had a journalist or an American contractor in the Middle East and they were grabbed by ISIS and they were in one of those beheading videos or something. A horrible, horrible thing, right?

Can they ever, that can never be, ha ha, that's funny in this Halloween movie. A guy got his head lopped off or ho, ho, somebody made a video that made it look like they're holding a severed head in the air, but it was just a camera trick. And like that's gone for them. Right? Like that's that disembodied humor that can be had can't be had for them anymore because it's immediately 100% associated with a real life horrific tragedy for them and I always think about that when I see that even though I've not had anybody I know have their heads taken off there's just something about it or even if you just hear like an old movie and the queen goes off with their heads all you can do is go well there's another movie I can never watch again I don't know I always think about

that sorry that's a little bit of a side note about mine yeah it's very much related, right? Because there's a level of empathy that we all, okay, so everybody listening is like, oh, Scott and Wendy's mom is getting brain surgery. If they like us at all, if they don't, what are you doing here, by the way? But if they like us at all, go save yourself sometime. If they like us at all, they are feeling some empathy, probably, right? Like, oh, that's sad or that's hard or something, you know? Or they're like, oh, that's right you know it doesn't have to be in deep they don't have to have had a mother with a brain tumor um for them to then like get it right right so there's some of that but notice the keyword

here was that they like us so if they didn't like us let's say i was i'm not going to name any names but i'm a person that they don't like okay and i'm like my mom has a brain tumor and what I mean, what does a troll say? What is somebody who's trying to harm me, think? Or, you know what I mean? They'd go, cry more, lib. Yeah, like you lib-tard? That's exactly what they would do.

Yeah. So, for example, so you got to, so here's the thing that's the conundrum for me as I'm trying to wrap my head around a few things. First of all, let me just say, I keep saying storming the castle, when I mean to say storming the capital, that keeps happening. Wow. All right. And I also keep doing.

like this weird giggling thing like I'm doing it right now where I am talking about sort of horrible things I think it's because like every single client we have to have a conversation about how they're feeling and are they safe and where did they live and you know that kind of stuff or people out of the country who are like really scared when they watch what happens here because you know a giant doesn't walk around and not rumble the ground right and so when the giant is a hot mess it's scary for everybody right right so anyway i'm spending a lot of time in these conversations and i've just taken to giggling and it's it's very weird adaptive maybe not so adaptive is it working though like you feel like that it's a coping mechanism it's actually i'm not

it's not like i'm giggling at the like as i'm anything specific it's just like we have a conversation then i just start laughing it's weird anyway everyone's worried about me now and you should be but anyhow um that idea though of like what is the deal when you can't watch somebody else behaving in a particular way and relate to it at all what do you do well if you if you like them or already feel connected in some way so maybe it's you share a similar element of a tribe together you our brains do these really interesting things where they make excuses for or so for example if you listen to any of the Republicans yesterday talking.

Oh, what the trial thing, yeah. There is a common theme. They would say something sort of like, oh, this is terrible. And then they'd use the word but, and then they would say whatever else they were going to say. And if you're listening to that and there your tribe, you're like, right, exactly. There's those other things. I mean, yes, it is horrible. But also, you know, like there's, you're just going to relate to what they're saying or doing because they're matching.

Maybe you're already established belief. or they look like you or remind you of somebody or like your connection there, right? They're the party that you like or whatever. And then the others just sound crazy. And then vice versa. So there's this thing that occurs. So we've spent time on the show before talking about

the sort of biological imperative to belong to a group and to feel safe that way. But I want to take it away from politics because that's just low-hanging fruit, really. And towards, like, us individually when we are interacting with others around and especially online, right, because your connection is so spread thin. It's basically you follow them. That's the only connection you actually have.

But there's a perception that there's obviously a lot more, a measure, you know, right? They don't know you, let's say you're following somebody famous or whatever, but you are like aware of what they did on Tuesday and you know what they ate for dinner and you know stuff about their life. So there's this connection and these things that happen. But then something occurs and you don't get it. So do you guys have an example? Actually, let's work from something practical.

Do you have an example where you just don't get why someone has done something? it doesn't have to be super dramatic. And it is based on the fact that you've never had that experience. I mean, it's hard because... I'm trying to think it's something innocent. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, the last couple of weeks is, it's hard right now. It's hard to think about something that's not in the last couple of weeks.

Right. Right. I got it, I'm sure I've got something here. Well, actually, I do have a practical one that's happening right now. he'll probably be mad at me for telling the story. I don't know if he would or not. But Nick's about to move, right? He's moving your direction. And it's happening on the 21st and it's all,

we're getting all prepped. Everything's going fine and everything else. But there is this matter of his lease. He can't just get out of his lease on his apartment. He has to get someone else to take it to buy the lease. And if not, he has to just pay as if he lived there. So it's just one of those contracts. He can't just get out of it.

And so as a result, he's had to, you know, put stuff up on Facebook and other places where people post these sorts of things and say that, you know, apartments available. It can do showings whenever you need, blah, blah, let me know. And he was just really sort of slow to get that done. Just really like, I'll get to it. I will. It's like a month ago. I was like, oh, I'll do it. Oh, I'll do it.

Oh, whatever. Like even already as it is, he's already paying for, he paid for January because he had to. And he's not even there right now. He's in our basement getting ready to move. And so, but didn't seem like he was in that big of a hurry to also be ready for February so that when he moved, he didn't have to pay for yet another month. And he's just sort of like, oh, work it out. It'll be fun. Like, bud, you don't have that kind of, you don't have that much money to do this.

You can't just pay double rent across the country for no reason. And it just didn't. So for me, this thing you're asking about is this weird disconnect he has with, it's fine, dad, it'll take care of it. and then me seeing that he's just not taking care of it. Like it's just hanging out there and it's not going to solve itself. And really it only takes a few simple moves like re-up the post on Facebook. Make sure you put it up on do the Craigslist listing that we talked about. Make sure you put it up on your Instagram because you got a lot of followers there, a lot of local ones and like all this easy stuff to do.

And he just thought, oh, I fell asleep last night. I forgot to do it. I'll do it today. Oh, I didn't do it today. I promise, Mom, I am doing it, Mom. I promise that. Like that stuff is maybe not exactly what you're looking for, but to me that stuff seems easy.

And I cannot for the life of me understand why he just can't do it. Aversion to just doing it. Yeah. And I'm not going to make him because he wants to be treated like an adult, and I want him to behave like one. And I also think it's important not to bail him out because that's the last thing you should do for your kids is bail them out of things that they need to be responsible.

for. Right. And so I'm not going to do that either. I'm not going to do it for him and either is Kim. So instead we're just sort of like, are you going to do it? Are you going to do it? Instead, you are doing something for him? You're his constant reminder. Yeah, which is, which is we've had this discussion actually. We're like, how much of that is too much even then? Like at some point, we just have to let him wear the monkey and not. He just needs to pay rent in two places across the country for a month or two. Then he's going to realize it. But see, that's where I'd have a hard time. You know, having them learn to pick up after themselves because their room is going

to smell like garbage versus, yeah, now he's going to be in some financial. Yeah. It's got to be the hardest thing. You're doing the right thing, but it's got to be the hardest thing to. It's hard. Like, part of me wants to just say, all right, give me the info. I'll take care of it. And I'll pay your thing.

And I'll make sure none of this even touches you. Like part of me wants to do that. but I know that's the wrong thing to do. I know it is because if I do that, the lesson goes flying off into the ether and no one learned anything. It goes off and hits your microphone. Right. That's actually hurt.

I hit my knuckle. Well, he'll have learned something. He'll have learned that his parents will just keep reminding him of things. And then when he doesn't do the thing that they keep reminding him to do, they'll rescue him from the consequences of the thing. Right. We're not going to. But here's where this ties.

into the topic is that your interest here is actually because you've been a few places in your life. You know how life works. You've been an adult for a while. You've paid your proverbial two rents at the same time. You know what mistakes cost and what pain they are. And you're just trying to help him skip over all of those experiences because you know better. And I get it. No, it's not saying that's a bad inclination. nation, right? Of course we don't want people to suffer. Yeah. But this is kind of the opposite. You do have actual empathy and he's your kid and it's connected to you. So this is, this would be like if you, I don't know how to flip it, but it is

because it's based off your own experience, correct? And just you know better. Like you know how the world works. And so that's hard to just watch someone flounder a little bit when you know how the world works and you could just tell them, but there's the irony, right? Telling someone doesn't ever work. It's the great paradox of parenting. The entire thing with parenting is that you, because of your experience, you are suited to help raise this thing, this person, but because of that experience, you have a prowess as a parent because of the experience, but also because of that experience, you are paralyzed at times because the only reason you know is because you had it. It's not because dad said, I'll be careful with your money, son. That's not why I'm, I know that

this is a bad thing for him to do. I know it because I have my own experiences that taught me that. Like, I'm sure my dad told me that all the time, but I wasn't really listening where I didn't really, you know, I'm just like, whatever, dad, move on. So I know all, I know, it's such a paradox because I not only know that, but I also know that I know that. Is that, if that makes sense. Like, I have the perspective of pull it out and go, well, yeah, he has. this is his journey, not mine, and I can't, I can't oversteer here. I can support and that sort of thing from afar, but sometimes supporting is not supporting. Some of it, sometimes it's saying, all right, well, good luck. That's hard. Exactly that. And here's the thing, too, is that, of course,

you love your kid. This is not even related to love. It's related to, and here's where this is applicable to all of us, even if we're not parents, that our experience informs our opinion. Our experience informs the way we view the world. So when I have nothing but positive experiences with a particular person or a group of people or in a, you know, a company that I have nothing but they've been so responsive to me, blah, blah, blah, I just have all good to say, right? Like it feels fine. So then when someone comes. who isn't white or or isn't cisgendered or isn't, you know, is having a very different world experience from me and this company they felt discriminated by or they didn't get

some of the benefits I don't even notice I'm getting. And then they say it out loud. I got to now understand how my brain works, right? So my own experience is telling me that what they're saying is not true. Like how is that even possible, right? but then how do we bridge it's an intellectual gap right of like the parts of us that like the things we have and the privilege we've experienced and even unaware of it like to have that challenge threatens a little something right so so for example nick is just being nick in the context of his parents living in the same place nick has yet to experience living over here where he can't call you guys every two seconds and have you run over and do something. Not that that's what it is, but that option is gone. Right, right.

So he's going to develop, I was going to say tentacles. That's a weird thought. Anyway, something that helps him handle life. I'm excited for his tentacle stages. Bristles, gristle, gris, grit. That's the word. Anyway, there's something.

There you go. Right that like he's going to have to spend some time and energy becoming more independent and what that actually looks like is not easy. And most of us don't choose that stuff necessarily. There's a lot of people who do, though. Like, they'll find the hardest thing they can do it, make sure they do it, right? But very often it's like we're comfort driven and safety driven.

And so he's going to grow up into a different person than maybe he's even expecting. But he, you know, your experience and his are going to be different. This is the age old father, son, mother, daughter thing too. which is, you know, my experience was this. And so shouldn't my kids be close to this, especially if it was positive or even neutral, right? And then, of course, if it's negative, we are trying to save them from that. Now, it's not to say you don't give your kids some advice here or there or try to steer them, of course. But you're done raising him.

Yeah. Like, you're way done. Yeah. I may not be done influencing him, but that's different. It's not the same. Very different. Absolutely. And you're still creating, you know, that there's love and, you know, that there's love and

security and all the good things right like none of that is done but the other stuff of like you know he's got the rest of the raising is going to be done by him yeah and so take this go back to my analogy with other people though so taking away from parenting do either of you have sort of thoughts on like maybe if you've been snacked in the face with the moment where you realize like your own experience is so different from someone else's and you missed it or have you double down on like, well, in my day or, you know, whatever version of like, you're right and someone else must be wrong because I have not had that experience. Well, Brian, I've been pretty yappy.

Do you have anything that jumps to mind for you? I don't. I've been wrecking my brains trying to think of something comparable. And it's either politics-based or it's, you know, some very tender topics right now with Yeah, don't do that. seen and her brother that you know sure well here's the funny thing about you though in particular brian is something i've admired from afar which is you don't get all up in a duck's back like that but you don't get all up in other people's business if somebody's doing

a thing you're like cool go do your thing like you're you're not you don't get wound up about somebody going to you know even if it's completely the opposite of you you sort of have like well okay and you're often it's gotten me into trouble with people thinking that either i don't care or that i don't um that i don't pay enough attention to them to care about what they're doing you know what that's what the one i'm trying to say there sure um but no it is yeah it is that i'm i'm fully of the belief and this is one of the few things that i did carry over from my stepdad is um this kind of let let other people be

or let it be oh god let it be yeah now we get that song but that is what it is I mean it's you know a you don't know what's going on in somebody else's head

kind of approach I don't know how this applies if this really applies to what we're talking about but you don't know how the other person is thinking or feeling or what's causing them to do the thing that they're doing So you've got to kind of let them do it. And if they need your advice, if they need your input, then you step in and you, you get involved. Kind of a live and let live sort of thing.

It's kind of like how, like my dad used to be that, he used to say that to us. We go to a restaurant and we get terrible service. And he'd say, now it's okay. We don't know what they had. We don't know how they're doing. We don't know anything about that waiter. He may have had a real hard life or all, you know, he'd say things like that. meanwhile my mom would be like this is the worst service I've ever had I've sent this back and please

I'm somewhere between the two because I will complain about the service but I'll do it in a way that is like I'm inviting them to to improve let me allow you a way to improve and not be so horrible at your job no I invite it's it's a way that welcomes a yeah you know what we just got slammed two people didn't come in today, that sort of thing. So it's not like I go and say, oh, my God, your service is shit today. I'll say, you guys are a little bit slower than usual. Is everything all right? You know, I give them basically the, yeah, Kefis puts it perfectly, inviting them to contextualize.

Yeah. So basically giving them the opportunity to say, yeah, this is what's going on in this world right now, but you may not be aware of. and so I won't I won't let somebody walk over me but I will give them the opportunity to explain why they're stepping on my toes yeah I've had some situations like confrontations online where somebody will have a very strong opinion that I'd disagree with to the point that I just completely like just kind of blow up on them and then they'll come back with additional details and then and then there have been times where I have to just sort of swallow my pride and go they're actually right here or or I was too wrong or I was too I came in too hot and I didn't know about this or I didn't know about that and I and I try in those situations to go back and say you know what you're totally right I screwed that up that's totally my bad I don't have a problem doing that I don't have a problem admitting when I've done

something wrong totally yeah but sometimes there's that rage moment where I'm still I'm still all up in the air on it and I haven't slowed down to see where I was wrong yet but but as far as like a specific situation where I don't know like where where I'm not empathetic to somebody else's situation I mean I try to be I don't know I try to be the situation with Tina and her brother right now I'm I'm trying so hard to see his perspective on it and I understand why he's he's being really mean to Tina right now without going into without going to details and outside of a of a political thing which they you know he and us are completely on opposite sides on, which I'm sure is kind of stemming some of this.

Yes. But there's stuff that he's just like, I can't imagine ever talking to my sister or any member of my family the way he's been talking to Tina. And it just makes me want to, it makes me, it does make me want to get involved and say, listen, you shut the F up and. And, yeah, so it's. Yeah, if you get Brian to want to say that to you, ooh, who are you? Exactly. So as much as I've tried to say, okay, well, what could be making him say these things? What could be making him talk like this to Tina and approach things this way? It's impossible. I cannot think of an instance that would make me want to talk to somebody. So I run out of empathy right there. That's where. Yeah. So that answer to either of these, either of us answer your question, Wendy. No, no, you're just, no, you're just illustrating the challenge, right?

Right? It is really hard to do this. And to really get curious enough about someone else when you're triggered is really, really hard. I think, I think, I mean, for me personally, I read a story about one of the guys who stormed the castle. And, I mean, I don't know if it was the way they wrote it or if I was actively attempting to. You said Castle again, by the way. I just want to point. I know. I'm never changing.

Oh, you're just going to keep it. Okay. All right. I like it. Yeah. And just his story and just this sort of difficult life and the elements of his life that led him to that moment and his relationships that have all crumbled and how just becoming more paranoid and more virulent in his views have sort of led him to a place where he just like busted it and destroyed things inside of the capital.

building the United States of America. And there was, it was empathy building, right? It helped me go, oh, there's the context. That's who this person is. All right. There's some even like compassion there. But, you know, real hard to do when you're just watching clips of it, right? Or really hard to wrap your head around. How is this possible that you think that's okay or that this makes sense to you or, you know, whatever. So, so politically, I think it shows up in such obvious ways that we just maybe have never walked in someone else's shoes or we can't perceive the world the way they've perceived it. It just doesn't make any sense to us. And so it's scary and like legitimately scary or the normal. It has been at least in our lives where you are like, I don't get it.

And then parts of us don't want to get it because that feels worse. You know, so we're really conflicted. But even if you pull this into your personal lives, I have no doubt, like when you're talking about teen and her brother, that an underlying fomenting of emotional stuff is happening for everyone. I mean, have you been to a target lately where you, like, somebody drops something and the whole room jumps afoot? Like, nobody is okay, right? And here's the thing about white people not knowing of other white people on their team for the first time. So that's fascinating. Yeah, that's an interesting psychological dive.

Sure. I felt that way when I moved here, actually, I was like, I'm surrounded by white Americans who some of, I mean, they look Swedish a little, but I know what Swedish, Swedes think. I don't know who these people are. It was very bizarre anyway. So I feel like that's a new element. And then there's just underlying people are watching and feeling and experiencing their own things. Like our capital is all boarded up because there's plans for it to be attacked. open plans and I have friends that live down there that need me to bring them some food because

they can't get into a grocery store for five miles like that's real right now and then you say so how's your marriage doing right or how's your how is this discussion about uh you know with this inter-family need that is totally not related to politics it's going to leak into that because it's sort of top of mind or emotionally has riled so many people up. And so, like, here's a perfect example. I talked to Misha and she says, so are you going to get a gun now? Really? Because, you know, civil war.

I said, Misha, first of all, I'll never get a gun. I'll move back to Europe first. So there's my promise. But also, like, I think you've miscalculated how many, like, really good folks still live around here? and are doing their best and are, you know, everyone's a little upset and concerned, but not all of us have lost our minds, right? Like, it feels a little that way. And that's, you know, that's the challenge.

And I'm telling you, left and right, I am watching marriages just, I mean, the strain and the, the dynamic of, first of all, your, you know, kids are in your house trying to go to school, which, of course, isn't working. And, you know, all of the underlying is the worst possible thing for relationships. So this is where it's tricky to do this curiosity work or to really check your own biases or pay attention to the parts of you that rise up when somebody says a certain thing when it feels like, you know, you're walking on lava. So that was hopeful. Let me end with. I don't know.

No, this is good. It's hard. This is really good. Like, you know, I start to just to, you know, some of the people that. storm the cap i'm sorry the castle i'll start talking like you uh the the shaman guy you know the q-in-on shaman guy uh he we had the whole story on the show earlier uh here where it has been very easy for us to just reduce this dude down to a conspiratory dude who believes everything he's told and has made it a lifestyle really and adhered himself to it so tightly that he

cosplay for it um and that the story that came out that now that he's in detention they arrested him he's in detention awaiting his stuff he wouldn't eat because none of the food there's organic and his mom had to report to the press

that he's basically starving himself because he can't eat the he has to have organic food and it's easy to hear that and go what a wuss who's the snowflake now and we did it here we had a story about it and we made some pretty good fun of that guy

and I still say some of that's justified given what he was up to. I'm having a hard time finding any of it that's not, but okay. Yeah, but that's my whole point. That's my whole point is we have to figure out a way to see that ridiculous stuff is there for sure. And the problems are there for sure. And he is in detention for a reason and needs to be prosecuted on the federal crimes he's charged with. And all that stuff needs to happen.

Accountability, accountability. But it is possible for me on a personal level to dig down deep and go, all right, what's really the problem? like where where in his life did this go south and do I understand any of that do I have any of that contextualization that that waiter will give Brian at a restaurant no I don't I don't have any of it I don't know when he went full shaman I don't know when that was he's only 33 so maybe it happened in his 20s maybe he had a real rough time maybe I don't know I don't know I have no idea I know what he did was wrong and I know that that part's easy I know what you did is wrong but then me going to the ninth mile to try to nitpick every single thing about a person's life who I know

nothing about is probably not good for me. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? I'm trying. I think you too, you can, it is, you just hit on a really important point, which is it's, this is, it's just easy to be lazy, right? Yeah. Just easy to, I mean, we have stereotypes. We have quick judgments. All of those things are our brain-saving energy. And this is what I'm getting at is there is a biophysical manifestation of the efficiency of brains going on, right? And its favorite tool, which is fear, right? So fear is an old friend for everybody, right? And when life goes too swimmingly, then brains, you know, amygdala is like, all right, what else is terrifying? Okay, let's make up something right and but when things are really kind of scary around us it's just easier to see that

and foment the fear and you know be reactive to that and and which is why when you know um mr rogers says look for the helpers that is a radical brain concept it really is that's why it is so invaluable right which is like really look around look around after the fear has you know settled what do you see and it's most people it really is whether whether they agree about certain things or not in the end i know my super republican neighbor who can fly his trump flag if i knock on his door and say i need help he's going to help me yeah it's just weird we're humans are weird right and something to be really clear on is that this didn't come i mean i've always said you know

Trump is a symptom of the real America, like the stuff that we really struggle with, the fact that we call ourselves a melting pot and we haven't ever melted actually and, you know, lots of things like that. But there, you know, he was like putting a fuse to a bottle, rocket in a bottle, right? Like there was a lot more that he did. And here's where this, maybe this is just my therapy at this point. Sorry, everybody. You love Trump.

I apologize. But is this, which is that what he says, what he says, said in his final ramp them up rally before they storm the castle or sorry said before obviously what he said after i think it was his last tweet maybe maybe i'm wrong um where he said we love you your oh was the video it was the video so he put out this video that was like the rush together sort of not scripted video and he said we'll never accept defeat but go home we love you we're great like yeah it was a weird no he said the words you're special yeah you're special you're special so all i hear there and i and i'm just going to say this from like from every individual i've ever meant

ever and when i they let me dig into their psyche everybody needs to know they're okay and then like the irk and western version is the word special right we all are um luke skywalker who is nothing on a planet and ends up being the most important thing of the world right like And that speaks to all of us. Right. And so to use that kind of language to say, we love you and you are special, he has, I mean, it isn't like he's, I know he doesn't read books very much, but it is that if he read the dictator's handbook, right? It is very much about creating a bond and a connection that isn't simply like, I have good ideas.

Why don't you follow me? Right. There's so much more to it. And my really, my first thought was, oh, poor Eric. probably never said that to him. Oh yeah, I guarantee Eric and Don Jr. never hear that kind of language. No. Right. Anyway, so that was to me that like the really alarming part. And so when I read this story about the guy with the horns or I read the story about this other man, I think you're loved and special. Oh my gosh. That's what this ultimately is. There is this just, and this is away from the

ideas, right? Like you can disagree on how to spend tax money or if the government role in this or that is a good thing. All of that is like on the surface, but this level of sort of, you know, other countries have experienced this before. This is not new in human history. Right. But it's kind of new for us. But there is this like,

I see you, I mean, he wouldn't get within 10 feet of any of them in real life, right? He's a germaphobe. He wouldn't spend five seconds with the shaman, QAnon shaman. Not five minutes with that guy. There's no fucking way. Not a chance. but to think you are special because someone who's rich and powerful tells you they love you and

you're special and you've already spent all this I mean it is it's it's something and so I think where are we at where there's this kind of poll in many people's lives or and for those total liberal same problem your mother doesn't love you I mean you know what I mean it's it's irrelevant to politics in the end it's just how it shows up is there's just a pain and grief and I am one depressing person today. Sorry everybody. Now I'm going to do a crazy laugh. Ah, she did it. But don't worry, there's good news because real steps.org is now in its phase four expansion or whatever the heck you're calling it. Phase five. Phase five. This is fifth one. Yeah. That's happening now. Now, wait, did it, did people already have to be signed up

and ready or how, what is, where are we? Yes. Last time I just hadn't quite got the website ready. So it's ready now, and that's embarrassing. But it is ready now. You just go to real steps.org, and you can read all about it. And I also sign up there. I'm stoked. I am just read through my real step. We have a Discord channel for Real Steps and just read through.

And lots of people are signing up and excited. And I am really excited. We have some really fun, fun things. And really, I mean, I have to sometimes stop and go, wow, we did this in 2020. What craziness has this been? But it's been really nice to have our group and feel, I feel like they're all my friends now. It's awesome. We really having a good time.

And learning how to manage our stuff and feel better, it's good. So sign up. We'd love for you to join us. Yeah, go check it out. There's a sign up link right at the top of the page at RealStops.org or you can read through it. And then a big sign up link at the bottom. But the signups are happening. I'm looking at them right now.

Go do it. You'll be happy that you did. Wendy, fantastic week. I hope, well, I don't know, it's fantastic. but hey it's a week next week I hope you have a week yeah you were great I hope you make it to next week

yeah and I'm sure we'll talk the next day or so when things suss out for mom but in between that we'll look forward to another week with Wendy here on the show thanks for being here all right bye guys

see Wendy all right there you have it well Ryan after today's he's heady discussion yes it's time for us to

slink off into the night But before we do, we got some fan service. Hold on. Service! This is from, oh, did I not get the person's name? That would be bad. No, but his name is Dave. Okay, thank you.

Tell him Dave. Yes. Oh, actually, he does say it in the beginning. Oh, it does. Okay, I thought I lost it. Here we go. Hey, San Shrew and Bell Sprout. Pokemon's what those are.

Yeah, and you're a Bell Sprout. I don't know what that is. I'm a Bell Sprout. That means your nature damage and, uh, I'm just guessing here. Yeah, that's, I'm a grass type. Okay. You'd like some sweet grass.

That's what Brian likes. They don't call it grass anymore. Do they? Nobody says that anymore. Do they? Yeah, I don't. Probably the new generation of marijuana smokers probably don't call it grass. Yeah, it seems like it's probably.

They want to come over and smoke some grass. I feel like that needs to make a comeback. But anyway. It's like you have to have a denim jacket to call it harass. Yeah. And we're not allowed. This one's made out of cloth of some sort. Sort.

All right. Anyway, Dave says he called in. I've been listening to TMS for years. I've gotten through some rough times like these ones. Anyway, I'm not sure if you're still doing this. We absolutely are. But he started a fresh YouTube channel. We're trying new drinks and foods.

Everything from craft beers to new special holiday candies. It's called The Snack Network. We're doing our first live stream next week and we put up our first 20 videos. There's a ton up there already. The Tadpool has done nothing but make me smile. for years. I'd love to see some of those faces in our comments. The channel is The Snack Network. You can just go straight to it by going to the snacknetwork.com. It'll take you right there. Thank you and your amazing audience. Love the show, bro. But is it too early to get a fish

sandwich. Never too early. Hey, too early get a fish sandwich. There he is. I like your impersonation of it, though. That was just as good. Anyway, so there's that. We're happy to do that for you and good luck. I'm going to go check it out myself a little bit later today. I checked it out a little bit this morning. It's a very cool, very cool setup. That's awesome. Beer tasting and something called Kool-Aid pickles, which I'd never heard of before.

Whoa. What the heck is that? That sounds... I don't know. It scares me. Sounds southern to me. It sounds like something my wife... It totally does. Yeah. I'll come out for some Kulite pickles. Dude, these guys are already making like great thumbnails where...

You know how a good YouTube thumbnail. Always has your face going right to get a little title in there exactly oh my god i've been uh i've been getting hooked on um miniature painting videos until i get some ideas for shading and highlighting this is the guy that actually i really dig and he doesn't do any of that goofy uh put it in the in our show notes right in our fan service um this guy's great i mean his he breaks it down into base colors he starts with a really dark base color and then builds highlights on top of it as opposed to some videos where they start with a medium-based color and then does shadowing and highlighting on it.

But he starts dark and goes light from that. That's cool. You should start doing some. You should do a little series, Brian. I could. People would say it basically be teaching people how not to do it and they would have to tell me, remind me in chat to slow down. I see.

Slow down. biggest problem with doing these minis is um i want to paint it all now and i got to slow down it's like all right thin layer then another thin layer then another thin layer that's a good um i need to do that more in general like it's too fast everyone slow down like this clip says it just all no that's not it no that's not it nope slow this sucker down that's it what was that second one what was that It's like it with the high-pitched... That's Carter laughing in slow motion. I'll do it again.

Oh. That's the best. That's pretty good. We did all the kids one night and recorded them all laughing really hard, but one day those will be valuable fits of audio. Anyway, I will be able to show the... I have a Captain Marvel and a Captain America that I think I've finished. I don't think I have anything else I want to do to them, so I'll be able to send you photos of those guys. Very nice. I'm excited.

Anyway, big thanks to the folks over there at the Snack Network. Go check it out. The Snacknetwork.com. The Snack Network. One of them has like three sets of rock band drums. Can't figure out why. Yes, I know in the background. That's Dave.

That's a lot. I think like this is everybody's basement, right? It's like, well, I got the rock band guitar drums and then I got the guitar hero drums. He's got three sets of the things Or at least two that I can see That's a lot He's trying to become the Neil Purt Of rock band

Where he's just surrounded In a circle by drums He's going upside down The wall Yeah exactly Okay We've finished We've done

We've done We've got Patreon.com slash TMS for your support Please we need it Go over there and check it out Plenty of great things to get I just sent off artwork

for this month, and you'll be getting that exclusively because no one else gets it. So it's over there at patreon.com slash TMS, along with lots of other rewards. Please do check it out. It's looking, we had a conversation earlier about the next playday. Maybe we do that on the weekend of our 10-year anniversary and celebrate that way. That makes sense, as opposed to doing it at the very end of the month, we do it over the weekend of the 23rd, 24th. Yeah. So we'll let you guys know time and all that, but looking like that, it'll be it.

I think we'll do more among us either. her, too. Oh, that's fun. That was such a blast, yeah. It's really good. The website is frogpants.com. Send us your email is the morning stream at gmail.com. You got questions for Wendy. We take those here, too.

So if you've got a little thing going on in your life, you want some advice on, we're happy to field those for her. Again, that is the morning stream at gmail.com. We're done now, but we need song. Morning stream. Play me a song, Brian, won't you? Okay. Sam Bloomer, aka Matuba, in the chat room, wrote in,

said, hey, spaghetti and beans. Ew. My birthday was on December 6th. Yay, who cares, smiley face. It was a huge, huge, huge, I was a huge, huge Jethro Tull fan in my early 20s. This cover is a good one, but any cover of a tall track would take me back

to a more carefree, virus-free time. I look forward to hanging out and chat and listening to the silliness every morning while working. Currently, I'm laid off, so I can listen to my sweatpants, he-he. Thank you and shovel the snow, bro. I'm not going to make Scott try and find any sense. like scooters or that chicken sandwich stuff. Oh, man, you really don't.

I mean, look, you mentioned it. No, I'm just going to play it. No getting around it. Yeah, so this is cool. This is from a 2000 album called Songs for Jethro Volume 1. And you've got your aquilung. You've got your locomotive breath. I think there's probably a cover of living in the past on there.

So it's all the, you know, the big songs you know. And then there's this one that he recommended. And I really dig this. I'm not at all familiar with the original version, so I'm just appreciating this for what it is as opposed to what it's a cover of. This is Sylvia Perlini and Gianni Machiaetti,

and boy, you will hear some accents in this, with their cover of Jethro Tull's Only Solitaire. Sitting on a park bench. That's all I'd always think of. That's all I can never think of, but that's just me. Stop running down his nose. We'll be back tomorrow at 3.30 Mountain Time for a Patreon edition.

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