The Morning Stream - TMS 2059: Who's Brimley

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

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Coming up on TMS, here we go and Trump again. Is it too early for a chicken sandwich? Shitbreaker, colon, furnace hole. God, Australian humor is weird. He makes it better... Is that a two-car garage, or are you just happy to park here? Midnight and Bangkok, where the girls go fumble. I died, but no big deal.

Skinny fat people is the name of my fat boy slim cover band. Make your mouth taste good. Lava tues. Floating dude in a suit. I don't say Reese's PCs. A tower of seaweed and snot. Therapy Thursday and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. Most of the greatest contributions and biggest messes in history have been made by two kinds of brains, the devious and the literal.

Go hi, this is Brian. Something obviously is going weird. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is Thursday, January 28th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. He's Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Brian. Hello.

Hello. Yeah, it's nice having a new theme, isn't it? It's like a mix of the old and the new right there. It has some cool, like, 8-bit sound and like... Morning stream. The morning stream. The morning stream. But the city don't know what the city is yet.

The show with everything, but you're Brenner. That's basically it. Thank God. I don't remember the lyrics of that song, but I immediately recognize it. Bangkok, Oriental City, but the city don't know what the city is. Crem to the Crest World and a show with everything, but you're Brenner. Midnight and Bangkok, when the girls go fumble, right? Is that it?

Like every word, every word you just said. is wrong. Midnight in Bangkok when the girls go for. One night in Bangkok is the name of the song. Oh, yeah, right. Not midnight. I should know this. Anyway, hey, welcome back, everyone.

We got stuff to do and things to talk about. I did want to make a brief, well, it's part, it's, what I'm going to tell you. Yes. Is partly why I love it, but also it was ridiculous. I wish I would have streamed this. Okay. I've been playing this game since last year when it came out in Early Access called Hard Space, Colon, Shipbreaker. We just call it Shipbreaker for short.

Right. Shipbreaker is this cool game where, Brian, imagine you're a dude on Earth and one of the last jobs you can get in this future where it's kind of dystopic and everything sucks and there's not great jobs anymore. One of the few jobs you can get is you've got to go up into the lower atmosphere of the planet and work for this company that, takes apart old ships decommission ships and like salvages the raw metals from it and the and the computer equipment that's in there and the reactors that are in there and all that stuff and your job is to go up there and using various tools laser tools and cutters and explosive mines and all

this stuff to just take these ships apart and fulfill your work orders so it might be we need four tons of aluminum so we're going to go pull all that out and throw it into the into the recycler. And then we need to salvage the rocket booster and the reactor and also the two battery packs. Okay, we'll do, we'll do those. That's the game. And you literally are taking these ships apart in this beautiful 3D first person sort of view and chucking stuff into a furnace that needs to go into the furnace, things that go into the recycler, things that go into a big giant space catcher thing that's like for reusable goods that are already built, not raw materials so like chairs and storage and stuff like that you throw in there anyway it's a rad

game it's very cool it sounds really cool yeah it sounds different than um you know than the typical space game you know i mean it's yeah you don't do any flying i mean you float because you're a dude in a suit but float you're out like a turd in the back of the low end of the pool low end of the pool yeah yeah um and you and you and you you know you basically you know you basically Basically, it's like reverse Tetris in a weird way. You're just trying to figure out to take stuff apart. There's a timed mode.

There's just an open sandbox mode. There's a career mode. There's a weekly challenge mode. Anyway, and the ships start small. They get huge. Eventually, you're in these big freighters with like multiple rooms, and you've got to be careful not to blow stuff up. And there's all this stuff, right?

I love it. And I really, really love it, actually. It's one of my favorite things in the world. And I find it really relaxing and chilling. And I can, like, have a movie on while I'm playing. And I just love it. It's just great. Anyway, it's probably come out of it.

for early access this year. It feels pretty complete as it is anyway, but I'm playing yesterday. I wish I would have stream this. Brand new ship. I'm like, all right, I'm going to take this ship. I'm going to go make all the money. I'm going to get rid of every single part. I'm going to put it where it goes. I'm not going to screw any of this up. I'm going to blow nothing up. I'm going to

very carefully get that reactor out and drop it before it explodes. Like, I'm going to do all these things. And the very first thing I do is walk into it, do the airlock, go inside, turn off the air control so the airlock doesn't matter anymore. step number one i go back toward the rear of the ship i float back there i got my light on

and i mean to laser a what do you call it like a joining a joiner beam sure beam like it's like a joiner beam cross beam it's supposed to be this is the this is the universal symbol for cross beam by the way oh yeah like this yeah you got it that's it when people are in a construction site they can't hear each other the guy just does this yeah right and then they all go oh it means cross beam cross beam everybody hold on i got to go whistlet some lady going by yo sweet cheeks i bring me another one of these mac yeah so these they're these like joiner things that you can melt and that basically starts to break down the structure of the of the hull of the ship and uh i was aiming for one with what's called the needler it's just a laser and i twitched

don't know why too much caffeine i don't know i twitched and i moved and i shot a fuel tank oh no now this normally is not the end of the world it usually just means well you're going to lose some of that side paneling and it's the back end of the ship and you might hurt your thrusters and if those are part of your work order that's that's painful because you need the money but it's not the end of the world usually but what happened because this thing's all based on space physics is the trajectory of the ship because of the way it blew up and blew out the back of the quarter panel of the ship it shoved the entire frigate which is way too heavy for me to do anything with in its entirety it's a giant ship yeah yeah goes that

direction, and I don't even know how to explain this. There's a giant, there's a giant furnace hole that you throw junk into. It's only for trash. And this thing starts heading, because of the explosion, starts heading toward the furnace hole in its entirety, the entire ship. So I'm about to go in. Like a giant frigate will fit into this. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So this, I mean, it would if, okay, so it blows over there and I'm panicking. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. no, no, no, no, no, right? And I start, like, you have these tethers, like these, uh, these laser tethers. You can try to hook it to and then hook it to a wall and slow it down.

And, you know, you're, you're in this like Bay Area, but it's still floating in space. So there's no bottom or top. The earth's down there and the, you know, space is up there. So if you're not careful, you'll fly off into nowhere land or part of your shipwell or whatever. Anyway, it just keeps moving. And my tethers are breaking. It's not working because it's too big.

And then there's like a gravity well around the opening of this thing. So once you run the gravity well, even, It's the point of no return. And I'm like, the whole ship is going in here. I'm going to lose $2 million on this contract. It's like bad. Oh, that's funny. So then, here's the best part.

Are there any people on the frigate? No, no, no, no. It's all abandoned. Yeah, it's in there's like, there's like inside the gravity or inside the ship. There's always like wrappers and like Coke cans floating around. By the way, a furnace hole is the new project between the red hot chili peppers and Courtney Love. Oh, fantastic. I can't wait for that.

Can't wait for that out. What a collaboration finally after all these years. Oh, yes. Be great. Will she wear a sock on her wiener? is my question. Anyway, so that thing floats over there and then does... I think you, if you're a red hot chili pepper and you're working with Courtney Love,

you put on two socks just in case. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you need... It's like double... It's like double masking, everyone's talking about right now. Anyway, so this, the ship is normally now, at this point, I'm like giving up, like, well, it's just going to head into the hole, but instead, it floats up like this and the back end goes down and it gets stuck, it jams before the hole.

So now I have this thing like, what can I do? What can I do? Can I break a piece off and then maybe pull that chunk out and salvage some of this? So I go with the laser and I go, shunk. I cut the bottom half of the ship open and then cut the two corners. And immediately that bottom half goes and sucks into the thing. The ship turns this way, hits me in the head, cracks my thing. And now the ship, the ship, two chunks of a ship are being pulled into the incinerator with me,

because I can't escape that gravity well either, and I got incinerated. So I'm just saying, what I'm saying is this might be the greatest video game ever made, is what I'm saying. Okay? No, kidding. The fact that it's that,

that it would allow something like that to happen is amazing. Plus, this sounds like a complete and toll nightmare. Well, I'm playing. This sounds like a stress. It can be. It can be. If this were in real life,

it would be that video of the dude driving the forklift and the Costco, where he hits one of the bookcase or the cases and everything comes down into the middle and he just hops out of the It's a little like that. Like you know that guy's day was real bad after that. You have to assume. I don't think he came back. No, he probably didn't come back. But in my case, I died, so it was no big deal.

The problem is, well, I'm playing it on a mode where it's not permadeath. You can do that if you want. So if you ever die, you just start over, which really blows. but people like that. It's like playing Diablo with a character that if he dies and he ever comes back.

So same idea. But it's like hardcore mode but I didn't do that so I could come back. So I just took the $3 million hit or whatever the hell it was and started another ship and that one I got,

I did fine on the next one. So it's all fine now, everybody. But I just wanted to use this as an opportunity to say, look, if you're a PC gamer, you get a decent video card, that is one of the coolest things. And it'll take a little getting used to

because it's like, you know, nucleidian space physics. So stuff behaves like it would in low G. And yeah, it's not, it's not going to, it's not arcadey, but it's also not like super simmy either. It's just mouse and keyboard or controller if you want are fine ways to control it. And once you get the hang of like, all right, to turn myself upside down or, you know, to get myself righted or to kind of apply my brakes or whatever so I don't go flying too far. Once you get the hang of all that stuff, zen. It is so good.

That's cool. Sounds cool. It might make you throw up engine. It's called Inspector Space Time Shipbreaker? What is it? Inspector Spacetime Shipbreaker Jr.com slash forward slash. No, it's called Hard Space Shipbreaker. It's on Steam.

And there's a rumor. This hasn't been confirmed, but there's a rumor floating around that the game is set in the home world universe, even though this developer doesn't have the rights to the homeworld universe. Oh, really? Oh, wow. And Homeworld is an awesome series, and it's possible, I mean, it feels like it could be. Like, it's got a great feel to it the way that Homeworld does.

Here's what's great, Brian. Like, if I'm working with some electronic stuff, there's often music playing in my helmet in the game. And it's like space country, like space trucker music kind of. And if you get electrocuted, it Fs up your radio, and all of a sudden your radio will be playing like some weird talk show. or it'll play. It's really great. Oh, that's awesome. That's great.

I really love it. So I can't say enough about it. Hard space. Looking at the website, looks really, really cool. Yeah, it's a neat,

it's a neat experience. All right. Also, I think we killed Chloris Leachman, and I feel pretty bad about it. Was she on the frigate? No, she was not part of the incinerated frigate. Sadly,

sadly, she passed away yesterday. Now, we just talked about her on Tuesday. We did. Yeah. And she died the next day. This happened with Larry King. This happened.

with Sean Connery? Yeah. Who else have we killed? Have we killed anybody else? Have we, uh, um, we have blood on our hands from other days? I mean, not to my knowledge, but, uh, but sometimes we don't hear about it. So who knows? Now, I know I mentioned a certain BW yesterday. Let's all just stop it with the, Scott, what have you done? I'm not, we don't actually, we also talked about, uh, a previous host of a morning game show that has a cliffhanger and uh plinko right who's 97 and can't be too far from home if you know what i mean so we're trying to be too far from the great uh the great showcase showdown

in the sky yeah but you should have seen my feed yesterday oh i i know because i probably got about a third of it yeah and that was and most people just accuse you of being the problem but uh then there's a third that say I'm part of the problem as well. Well, they're the right third. They know what's up. But here's the thing. When I saw that hit, somebody, the very first one I saw said, Scott, why did you have to bring her up yesterday? And I went, what are you talking about? And then it hit me. Oh, no, please, you have to be kidding. Like, I didn't know about it yet. Like, you have to be kidding me. Why are you saying this? And then like 50, 100, 150, 200 tweets later,

everybody going, you had to say her name, didn't you? You had to do it. So Carter and I are going to celebrate her life in a very unique way tonight. We're going to watch her episodes of The Simpsons, her episodes of Bob's Burgers. You've got time to do this, but you can't do Wandavision, really? Look, look, I agree. Like, she'll sit down and plan a TV evening of Cloris Leachman on the Simpsons and Raising Hope and... I agree. Phyllis, but...

100% with you, 100% with you. Except... Wait a minute. She just wants to do the answer. animated stuff. She wants to do that. She wants to do Bob's Berger's Simpsons. And I think she was on a Futurama. I'm not sure. I might be thinking to B. Arthur. I'm not sure. Be Arthur's still alive, right? I didn't just kill her by saying her name. No, she's dead. Okay. So maybe that's it. We just have to talk about dead people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, and Parasite. Don't remind me,

chat room Parasite. Got to watch Parasite. Okay. I've given up. I don't want to keep pushing Parasite because I want to make sure that it, that I don't over-hype it. It's really good. But if I keep pushing on Parasite, you're like, oh, yeah, it was all right. Let me ask you this. Does Parasite have, you know what's held me back? I figured it out with Parasite. Here's what's held me back.

And it's not that I don't want to see it. It's just that when I think about it, I go, yeah, I could do that. Or I could do it. Or I could go shove a frigate into a furnace home. Right, right? I could listen to Hank Hill while I put a ship in the furnace. so the reason that I think I do that is because after Snowpiercer

the other movie that I really love by that director Bong Joon Ho Bung Junho I worry that this isn't going to be gritty enough like is it just people because in my head it's just people in the basement doing subtitles like is that wrong it's definitely way more than that

I would not call it gritty there are there are parts of it that are very gritty and like oh man people living like that huh but um but it's not it's more of a uh geez

I don't want to say too much it's more of a it's kind of part psychological thriller um it's it is not anything it's nothing like Snowpiercer okay

it's not because Snowpiercer's like genre movie, right? Genre movie with, you know, sci-fi, here's what the world could happen to the world kind of thing. If we don't change our ways,

blah, bra, bra. By the way. Well, I'll get to that in a second. But that's not at all what parasite is. Parasite is a study in in humanity. Okay. Humanity

then. All right. Humanity. Yeah, and I'll leave it at that. Part of me is like, I have to work myself up for, I have to find a certain energy for subtitles. It's not that I won't do them or that I don't prefer them because I do. It's just, I know what I'm in for it. Well, you're not going to be able to play your space salvage game while you're watching.

I'm not going to be able to salvage a bunch of texture map polygons. No, no. You are going to want to pay attention. And, like, you've got to, you've got to set the iPad down. You've got to not tweet for an hour and a half. You've got to just sit there and do it. But you will, you will enjoy it. Knowing your tastes and knowing the things that I've recommended to you before that you've liked,

this is in the same level. Honestly, I have no doubt, because you've never led me astray. And this, you know, this is a best picture from a freaking, when's the last time we had a foreign film that was a best picture? Like, it doesn't happen. Right, never. So, obviously, somebody liked it. according to our former unnamed president. Well, you know, he, uh...

He's not even from America. Not even from America. The best picture this year. This guy, by the way, there's a guy on YouTube that leaves us comments. Yeah. Every time you do an impression of Trump, he goes on there and says, Here we go with Trump again. Good. You know what?

I'm happy to... Even though it's like 0.1 of a thousand things that we talk about on the show. Is he a Trump supporter that doesn't like us saying bad things about Trump or he just doesn't like, like he just thinks my impersonation of him sucks? I think he is a, I think he's a, let's say a supporter of a sort and he likes to cherry pick moments like that and pretend it was the entire show. That's what I think is. Well, he's a very special person. I'm going to tell that person to stand by. it's very special we love you we love you very special so i was going to get to this and i know

we've got to get to gidget for the next um hour of trivia but um i've been watching so i finished up a community i just decided screw you season six you've you've lost me sorry you've you've lost too many of the key people that i watch this show for and i love gillian jacobs i love joel mccale i love alison brie but man you know you lose uh Donald Glover, you lose Kenjong. You lose a lot. That's a lot. You lose a lot between season five and season six. Yeah, for sure.

Nicole, Vett Brown, or Vett Nicole Brown. Anyway, so I went back to watching catching up on the expanse and burned through all the expanse stuff, which, oh, so good. Including this season, did you already do all the five? Oh, yeah,

I'm up to date. Like, I was caught up to this season and I was saving a bunch of episodes, thinking that I could binge the whole season after enough episodes came out. I couldn't wait, and I binged up to the episode, if not watched the episode that came out this week. I'm in the same boat, but I haven't started that binge yet. I've been holding off because I just don't want to run out, but maybe, no, no, no, I want to get in there. No, no, no, no, yeah, just, just wait.

Don't do, don't do like me, Scott. Just wait, binge them all because now I'm in this position when it's like, no, I want more right now. Yeah. Anyway, so I've gone to the most recent season of Doctor Who to catch up on that. Season 12 of Doctor Who. That's with the Lady Who in there. It's with Jody Whitaker, who's a great doctor. She's a great doctor.

Very good doctor. Oh, no. Now we're 0.2 of 100%. We've gone up to 0.2. She and her companions are great. and there's no problem at all with the acting or the presentation of the show. However, they're getting, and in long time, I mean, I've watched all of the new, I've basically watched everything since the beginning of Christopher Eccleston.

Do you do the Capaldi run there, the last guy? Oh, I loved Capaldi. I thought Tenant was fantastic. I really like Capaldi, and I really liked it. Deccleston. I wasn't as big a fan of Matt Smith, but he's all right. He's fine. He's a better, he's a better, Philip. He's a much better. But this season, season 12, is so preachy where like every episode is the starred belly sneaches, right?

It's like every, like, oh no, this planet that is all destroyed and, completely vaporized it's earth turn turn turn and they've been doing it's like oh no it's the

microplastics in the ocean that are killing the people and like okay yeah I we need an escape from the world not a not of I guess is what art does but still

they're never going to end it though Jeannie says just kill it BBC are you kidding they're going to do Doctor Who and tell van is having his own grandkid it'll just keep going man yeah and by then it'll be

you know there'll be a I don't know like a dog will be Dr. Who for a while and then they'll put a right I know yeah we need to just go through just whatever get an ape in there I love an ape like a big old monkey it's just a bummer because I really enjoyed

just about every season up until now and now it's now I just feel like it's uh you know where are the cybermen where are the daleks i don't want the enemy to be us we've found the enemy doctor and he is us yeah more more daleks or daleks sorry is it daleks is daleks right deluxe i think they're called uh randy deluxe randy deluxe they moved catwoman all right i believe it they moved catwoman so anyway i don't know if i'm even going to make it through the full season season 12 i really like jody whittaker though i think she's great she is great

She's got such a fun, cookey energy and, uh, yeah, there's nothing wrong with her. She's cool. Yeah. I just,

I, I'm a, I've got this weird OCD when it comes to binge watching stuff where if I start a season of something, yeah, I feel weird if I don't finish it. That's why it was so hard for me to leave Johnny demonic in the theater.

Because I'd never left a movie before and never left one since because I feel like I've paid for this I've got to give it a chance and I'm going to see it through the end and I get you I couldn't can not I'm not sure I'm to be able to do it I can do it it's a rare thing for me too

like a movie that I don't finish but now it's easier if it's like on streaming and it sucks I don't know well now I've done it with community and I think I'm going to do it with Doctor Who's so I can't wait to see who I do it with next sorry Jody Whitaker You weren't the girl for Brian, it turns out.

You weren't the doctor for me. No, it certainly has nothing to do with her. No, she's great. I think it's Chibnall. Chibnall. One of the co-writers, Chibnall. Exterminate. Hold on.

Hey, remember this? When Dunaway did this, hold on. He did a really good exterminate once. Exterm. Yeah, check this out. That's so good. His computer was acting up, but he went in and did this anyway. Exterminate.

Isn't that great? Oh, that's awesome. That was yelling his computer. This thing was all left up. All right, Gidgett incoming. We're going to do some trivia here and it'll be fun. We're going to have a good time. And then we'll see what else the show brings us today.

Wendy will be here later, of course. So that'll be fun. So stick around while we do, I can't find her thing. Where is it? Okay, good deal, Scott. There's Trivial things. It's Tribial Things with our good friend Gidgett Von Roo. She joins us from Down Under.

I do. That's Australia, for those who don't know what the hell I'm talking about. That's Australia. Gidgett, how the heck are you? How are you doing? I am really good. I'm really good. It's 2021.

There's exciting things happening, and it's so nice. I feel like I've been away for ages from you guys, and I miss you. Yeah, because we didn't do anything in December, right? Because of the holidays basically cut right into our Thursdays at the end of the month. So we were giddish-less. We were giddish-less. You're giddish-less. It's a giddish-free zone.

But we're glad you're back, and we're excited to do this. Thank you. My understanding is, I've heard tale that we're going to go down some sort of scientific path today. Or, excuse me, sci-fi path today. Tell me what we're doing. Okay, so basically, oh, first of all, Tom Baker was my favorite doctor. Yeah, he's great. And that's, when I was a kid, I watched.

Doctor Who every Sunday morning and they'd run back to back to back episodes on channel 6 and I would watch watch them all and I was so hooked on Tom Baker and then the problem with Tom Baker though is when they were filming his episodes it was back when they thought it would be cool to use the worst video camera ever made the kind of they also use for soap operas where everything kind of blurs into the next thing if they move the camera too much so if you had like a candle and then you had the camera on the candle and then moved suddenly you'd have a streak of a candle It's straight right across the... You know what? It's forgivable because it's like classic Doctor Who and that's what I grew up with. We were getting all the British shows here in Australia and I know there was a few doctors before him and a lot of doctors after and most of the doctors have been pretty good

but, you know, the scarf and the overcoat thing and the hat. The fro. And he was like, and the fro, he's iconic and he's still with us. So, yay, because we lost Cloris. Yeah, Chloris Leachman. Oh, no. Oh, geez, yeah. We should have said Tom Baker now.

Gitchett brought up Tom Baker. So if anything happens to Tom Baker, it's not us. Yeah, because we talked about Clorice Lynchman yesterday. Yeah. We talked about it the day before she died. I'm very close to doing, you know, a Gene Hackman movie podcast. Oh, man. Who are, Sean's gone.

Yeah, we killed them already. There's so many people just petering on it. And you just think, oh, Clint Eastwood. You just think, oh. Oh, I better do a movie podcast about them just before they carc it, you know. But special shout at Clarice Leachman because she was an absolute brilliant comedic actress like Madeline Kahn. And one of my favorites is high anxiety.

Oh, such a great movie. Great military. And so many people have not seen that movie. Everyone thinks young Frankenstein or, you know. but high anxiety if you're a hitchcock fan and you don't even need to be a hitchcock fan you know I didn't even when I saw high anxiety I hadn't seen one Hitchcock movie and I still laughed yeah and then you start seeing Hitchcock movies and you start saying oh that's what that chill comes from yeah yeah yeah yeah she's Nurse Diesel and she is just brilliant in it so do yourselves a

favor and track down high anxiety so but but it's um it's sci-fi time and can i say a special hello to mirth who follows me on twitter he's never listened to your podcast before and i told him i was appearing and he said i will sign up and i will listen i will be a part of the community wow so you've got a new person you don't mean so send me money mirth did you say mirth keep him yeah well hopefully we keep him yeah hi mirth like mirth like i'm feeling some mirth on the earth No, Murph, Murph, M-U-R-P-H. Got it. Murph.

Murphy. Okay. All right. Well, Murph, if you're here, I don't know, I don't see him in the chat, but if you're listening, welcome. Are we listening? Yeah, welcome. You feel free to use the furniture. Don't pee on anything.

That's all we ask. By the way, in our Discord. You never know. In our Discord chat, I just put a copy of Tom Baker covering the kinks you really got me. Oh, do he really do that? It's part of the thing. called Tom Baker says, so they took Tom Baker's speech and put

it into, and then made a song out of it. Oh, weird. Yeah. That's awesome. And he was the narrator for Little Britain as well. Wait, what's Little Britain? What is that? I don't know what that is. That's a comedy

sketch show. I know what it is. It's got the and it's got the dude who's currently on British Bakeoff with, um, David Williams and, um. The little, the ball. guy with the alopecia guy. Yeah, Matt Lucas. Yeah, that guy. Matt Lucas. That's it. Yeah.

He is hilarious. Oh, that one. Yeah. Oh, you guys. I'm going to get in trouble for that. British stuff. Yeah, I love British stuff. They're the best. Hey, all right. These are movies, right? We're doing this trivia for us. Movies. And it's not just, I'm not sticking to 80s anymore because I've got a very exciting thing to announce at the end, but this is through all the decades. All right. Right. And it's multi-choice as well. So listen to all the answers first.

Scott, I think because it's a new year, we'll kick off with you. If someone in the chat would like to keep score. Cool. And I am hiding the chat right now. Heidi chatty. Out of my view. Heidi chatty. Okay.

That could be a porn name. I dated her. I dated her and Heidi chatty. She would shut up. She just would not shut up. I know, dude. Oh, she just goes on and on and on. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All right. I'm ready. Yodling all the time too, which is really annoying. But those pig tails, let me tell you. Oh, woo. Haboda, hoboda. Okay.

Oh, and also I'm the devious brain. You were talking about that earlier because I was just sitting here listening. So it turns out I'm the devious brain. Sure. Okay. All right. So, all right, science fiction movie quiz. Feel free to take part, but the boys aren't looking at the answers.

So, or I hope not. Nope, definitely not. Never cheat. Never cheat. Yes. Couldn't live with myself if I cheated. Right. Okay.

Just couldn't. All right. I couldn't sleep a night. All right. I sleep like a baby. Okay. All right, Scott. Number one, what candy does Elliot use to lure ET out of the backyard shed?

Is it A, Skittles, B, M&Ms, C, Reese's Piecese, or D, ecstasy. I will say it the way that I say it and not the way my friends in the South say it. It's Reese's pieces, not Reese's Pieces, which some people say. That's right. It is not Reesies pieces. But Reese's Pieces. It is correct.

Scott gets a tick. Yes. We got a lot of that. When I was a kid, we ate handfuls of that stuff when that movie came out. Loved Reese's pieces. We didn't even have it in Australia at the time. We didn't have M&Ms. We didn't have M&Ms.

We didn't have Skittles. We didn't have Reese's pieces. We had Smarties. Oh, yeah, Smartis, which were basically M&Ms. M&Ms. Yeah, but not as nice. Like thinner chocolate. Yeah, but it's like football and soccer.

You guys have your smarties, but your smarties are chocolate candy-covered things. Over here, Smarties are hard, horrible, like candies. They're like sweet-tarts. Yeah, they're like sweet-tarts. Oh, really? Yeah, they're terrible. I've never bought American chocolate, but I've been over in America because I don't like that cocoa taste of the chocolate.

We don't make good chocolate, but I'm not known for it. We really don't. No, when you get like, you know, a good chocolate from overseas, it's just like no content. Just about anywhere, like freaking any European country. Canada even gets better chocolate than we do. Yeah. The failed state of Yugoslavia probably makes better chocolate than we do.

All right, go ahead. All right, yes. Meagoslavia probably has better chocolate. Yeah. Yes. Even though that country doesn't exist. Right. That's why I said the failed state.

They've got better chocolate. They had better chocolate. Yeah, well, they had better chocolate as they existed. Yeah. Okay. All right. Bro, bry. Yes.

All right. With what does Roy Neary, played by Richard Dreyfus, create his first devil's tower sculpture in close encounters of the third kind. Is it A, shaving cream? B, mashed potatoes, D, dirt from his yard, or, oh, sorry, C, dirt from his yard, or D, seaweed, and snot. All right, holy cow, yeah, because my first thought was going to be mashed potatoes, because he's at the dinner table, he's piling him on, and he says, this means something. But I'm remembering, and I know the dirt one came later, like the mashed potatoes one wasn't big enough, so he went in the backyard, got dirt from his yard and all the neighbor's yards, and created his own. but I'm trying to remember if he did something with shaving cream

beforehand and I remember a scene with him doing that with shaving cream did that come before the mashed potatoes? Question Colonel got wrong. Is it? Yeah. Because we all remember. I bet he said mashed potatoes. I'm going to say shaving cream because I think he did that when he was shaving in the mirror

and went, and then like started shaping it up. So I'm hoping I'm remembering correctly. You are remembering correctly because you are absolutely right. Nicely done. Goes to Bri Bribe.

Nice. One to one. I'm glad you gave me multiple choice because I would have done right to mashed potatoes. You know what? When I was doing the quiz and I was like looking up all the movies and trying to think of like some of the questions

and I'm like close encounters and I'm like, oh, the tower thing with Richard Dreyf is that'd be good. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's the mashed potatoes. I'm like, this is a walk in a park. And then I was like, yeah, I rewatched it. I rewatched it. I rewatched it to make sure that, yeah, it was first when he was shaving and he started to do it.

And then at the dinner table, he did the mashed potatoes. Then later, he started, like, throwing all the plants through the window. It's an awesome movie. It's an awesome. That's right. Because he builds the, he does the mud one in his house. He does it do in the backyard. He takes the entire house out.

And his wife, played by Terry Gar, just leave. with the kids and they're just like nut we're over it and to be honest with you i do not blame them at all i feel like what are you doing to my house movie holds up so does he hook up with melinda dillon you think i think he does you know they're they're kindred spirits hey would like to get it on before i get on this big spaceship i want a close there's not often i want a sequel but i want a close encounter's too where he comes back because Richard is still with us

I've met him by the way he's lovely he comes back and he's been influenced by his entire time living with the aliens overseas and I don't know whether Melinda's still with us or not but they line up together and let's

do that and get Stephen Spielberg to do it as well so he doesn't piss all over it we'll go fund me that one all right better get to question two three Three. All right. Question three, Scott. What is the name of the leader on Mars in total recall? Is it Cohen, Copenhagen, Kohagen, or Caroline? Can I get the first three again? Yep. A, Cohen, B, Copenhagen. C, Kohagen or D. Caroline?

The answer is quato. Yeah, quato. Quaid. I'm going to say, I don't think it's Copenhagen, so I'm going to say Co-Hagan. It's Ronnie Cox, I know that, who plays him, but I think it's Coaghan. Correct, you got it. You got it. It's got, tick.

Well done. That's old Ronnie Cox out there with his. Ronnie, he plays a good, he's good baddie. It's same with in Robocop. Yeah. Good baddie. Yeah, he's great. Supposed he's a lovely man, though.

Supposedly, yeah. Well, he was a, he was a nice guy in what? Baby the Hills Cop 2, too, he's nice. He's nice. Deliverance. Oh, deliverance. People forget. He was actually playing the, the guitar or the banjo in deliverance along with that kid on the patio.

Yep. Yeah. Kid. Yeah, kid that kid. Banjo kid. Bando kid. Okay. All right.

Number four, Brian. Yeah. What is the name of? Will Smith's character in men in black. Is it Agent K, Agent J, Agent R, or Agent Bond? So J and K are the two agents in there. I believe Jay is the other guy. I don't care.

Tommy Lee Jones, thank you. So I believe Will Smith's character is Agent K. no that's got it backwards here's how you remember it he is jing jrong wrong wrong so it's so will smith is agent jay because his name is james darrell edwards right but the way you remember it is jam master jay

because of the whole rap background because he was a rapper yeah because he was a rapper what about cool mo d cool mo d begins of the k so that's going to totally throw me off Curtis blow begins of the k shoot i didn't think of these things No, but you think, like, I guess You're going to the beginning of a rap song.

Yeah. Yo, Jay. Put yourself out. All right. All right, Scott. All right. So that was wrong. Yes, it was.

All right. So, Scott, number five, where do the giant acronids or the bugs live in starship troopers? Is it A, in caves on Earth, B, a planet called Clifendu, C, a desert land named Mahombo or D, Detroit. Well, I know it's not 1 and D, or A and D.

Uh Ooh. Uh, I'm gonna this is hard. This is hard. I'm gonna say I hope I'm right. I'll say B.

Whatever the C one was or maybe it's a K. What is it? The C one or the B? Oh, the B. Answer B. So which one? Answer B. Could Clundo or whatever you called it? Or the, what was the second one? It's called Colcendu? Yes, you are correct. Well done. Got the bigger ticky.

My steel, if I had a steel, would have been the one he didn't say that wasn't the first or the last one because I knew it wasn't Caves on Earth. Yeah, that thing was definitely not true. And that, you know, I love the Detroit thing from the Kentucky Fried movie. You know, take him to Detroit. And he's like, ah. No, not Detroit. All right, Brian. Yes.

Number six, complete this quote from Private Hudson in aliens. Is this going to be a stand-up fight, sir, or, A, another wild goose chase, B, a total waste of time, C, another bug hunt, or D. D, Will we be dancing with the devil and the pal moonlight? I believe it's C. I know that that phrase is used in aliens and I think it's I think it's him that says it. Another bug hunt.

Brian gets a tick. Well, done. Yay. This is another bug hunt. Another bug hunt, man. Not like any of those first three could have been what he said though. Like, you're just going to be another waste of time.

Yeah. He could say all that stuff. He's the worst. He shouldn't have graduated from freaking space marine camp or whatever. He's the worst. Oh, he comes good. Brian Hudson, private Hudson comes good and he's not going to see.

Yeah, in the end, he does. He's a heroic figure in the end. You're not wrong. But up to that point, if I was Napone or whatever's name was, I'd have fired that guy a long time ago. Right.

Oh, yeah, it was a bit of a wind up cigar and gotten real. Yeah, I would have said, I would have said stow that shit, Hudson, and fired him, both of them. I think the trouble with Hudson is he didn't bring his pack of tampons for the mission. Is that what it is? All right. Yeah.

We'll take that. Next question. Not Australian humor is weird. I'm sorry, this has got nothing to do with the morning guys at all. This is just me. Okay. Okay. All right.

Number seven. All right. So this is Scott. All right. What planet does the film begin? on in the Empire Strikes Back. Is it A, Alderon, B, Hoth, C, Tatoon, Tatarin, or D, Uranus? Tatun.

It's on Hoth, the ice planet, frozen planet of Hoth, is where it begins. That is correct. There you go. That's an easy one. This is a good boy. Man, that's a mind-stretcher, that one. Yeah, that was a rough one. Yeah, ask me something now about,

you know the fifth beastmaster but give him Empire Strikes back you're right Brian did you lose your bra I'm kidding I'm kidding where am I

Did you lose your bra little bri bri bribe All right What's your got for me All right What is the name of the leader Of the Thermians in Galaxy Quest Is it A Mathesar

B Saris C Quillic or D Bob oh jeez louise i know this one can i steal or is that not what we're doing we're not doing if he can't get it you can steal okay well you haven't let any steal well i guess the only other steal would have been uh j and k yeah that was a default um all right give me the three give me the first three choices again so it's the leader

of of the fermions in galaxy quest massasar saris or quellic let's say let's say Mathesar you are correct oh thank you I just watched that yeah that's a little bit cheating because I just saw it again with the kids

so yeah you watched the documentary too yeah I watched the documentary and that and then oh the making of is good the only thing I had a problem with the making of Galaxy Quest is they didn't concentrate much

on the actual effects because I think the actual baddie and his crew, the makeup in, it was real makeup, like Rob Bottin in the thing. They didn't concentrate a lot on that. No, I was a bit disappointed with that. I could have gone for more of that too. They were more focused on like,

why is this a cultural touchstone of a film and all that? But yeah, had they gone deeper? Yeah, it was a good doco. It was still a really good doco and a highly enjoyable film. So if you haven't seen Galaxy Quest, check it out, especially if you like Star Trek or anything like that. All right. Love that.

Brian. So, Scott, complete this opening line from James Cameron's The Abyss. When you look long into the abyss, A, you'll see a path of destruction. B, the unknown will be revealed. C, the abyss also looks into you, or D, you'll see C aliens. We just saw this. We did. Such a good move. It's not ringing a freaking out.

Well, I think we also just saw a Galaxy Quest for Film Sack, too. Did we do? We didn't do Galaxy Quest in a film Sack. You boys getting dementia. I don't think we did. Quick Sack? I'll look it up. Let's see.

That's a good idea. Distract yourself from this question. That's a terrible idea. All right. So think about it. All right? I think the Abyss looks back at you. When you're looking into the abyss.

It looks back at you. That's what it is. That is correct. Oh, it's a total. Yes, dude. I don't remember at all. I think it's based even on an older phrase than the abyss, too. It is.

It is. It was taken from an older text. Yeah, we've never done to Galaxy Quest. We did Galaxy of Terror. We didn't do Galaxy Quest? Why did I watch it recently? Was it just because it was streaming? I think it was because of that and you wanted to watch that doc that Nicole

recommended. I think that was it. Yeah. Okay. But we do this all the time. What did you guys watch? Where did you watch Galaxy Quest? It was streaming somewhere.

I thought we watched it for film sec. Oh, no, no, no, no, you know what it was? Prime has the documentary. Hulu has the movie. That's what it was. Yeah. Ah, right. Which is dumb.

They should have it in the same two places. I agree. Yeah, of course they should. Yeah, it's dumb. Anyway, Brian's turn. You know what they should do? They should, all these movies with awesome makings of, like if they're showing the abyss, they should show the making the abyss directly after it.

Oh, I see. And they also should give you the abyss and high quality, uh, 1080p at the very least. Oh, yeah. The prime... It still hasn't been released on Blu-ray. Yeah, but the streaming version is 4-3. It's horrible.

It's horrible. It's got to be a James Cameron situation of like, no, I want to release that one. I can, you know, remaster it and fix a couple things and blah, blah, blah. I'm having dinner with my eighth wife. I can't talk about it right now. That 3D. Avatar, yeah.

Yeah, that thing. You got like five of those coming, so. It's filming them all at once. All right, next up. Yep. Okay, so it was Scott. So, Brian, okay, what is the Tyrell Corporation's motto in 1982 Blade Runner?

Is it A, replicants are our business, B, more human than human. Stop making noises. Sorry, I'm just got some white zombie in my head all of a sudden, but keep going, please. Yeah. Brian's more human than you. A white zombie, if you feel like it. We've got time. You want to sing that, Brian?

Sure. It's more human than human. More human than human. That would be my answer for this one. Just yesterday. Brian, what's going on? I listened to him all day yesterday. Like the greatest hits of white zombie and of Rob zombie yesterday as listening to that song.

And now we're talking about white zombie. And now we're talking about white zombie. I'm just saying, something's up lately with this show. Sorry, Gidgett, please. Please continue. What are the other choices? It's only 401 AM here in Australia. It's fine.

I'm still going to take all this makeup off and put my jammies on. No, it's fine. Just do your white zombie thing. Well, they have the song that was... I did this because I was bored. Oh, we love you, Gidgett. I love you guys too. Okay.

All right. go back to this. So it is, Brian, all right, so I'll ask it again. Okay, go ahead. Because the boys in class are not paying attention. Stop misbehaving. All right, what is the Tyrol Corporation's motto in 1982 Blade Runner? Is it A, replicants are our business, B, more human than human, C, the humanoid specialists, or D, we'd buy that for a dollar. I'm going to say, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's more human than human. That is correct. Nisely done. Tortoises on their back. Why aren't you helping it, Leon?

Yeah. Why aren't you helping it? I want to watch these movies again. Okay. How many we got left? All right. Scott? All right. Eleven. Where does Corbin Dallas get the four engraved stones in the fifth element? A. Zorg's suitcase. B, Cornelius gives it to him. C. Have a LaGarnia's dead body or D. Walmart. It's her dead body,

but didn't she Oh yeah, she was fully deceased when he withdrew them but yeah, they were in the singer of the divas body. Correct. He scrapes it

from the singer's body. Yep. He had to go through her butt hole. I don't know if anyone noticed that. That was the quickest way to the stones. Go through her butthole. That's right.

Oh, I didn't. Okay. Oh, I mean. I made that up. You're right. I made it up. You're right. No, you're just being naughty.

Okay. Number 12, Brian, what is Louise Banks, played by Amy Adams' job in the 2016 film Arrival? Is she A, a foreign language teacher, B, a linguist, C, a speech therapist, or D, a life coach? Wow, we're going newer on this one. She is a linguist, if I remember correctly. That is correct. She says all of these aliens only speak in coffee rings left on a table. This is how they communicate is with coffee stands.

Did you boys like that movie? Yeah, I love that movie. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I liked it too. I think it's going to be one of those movies that a lot of people watched initially and really enjoyed. And then so many missed it, but it's going to become a cult movie, I think. Yeah, it's fantastic. Because I think it's quite brilliant.

Name a bad Denise Villeneuve movie. You can't do it. He doesn't make bad movies. Unless Dune is a complete flop, he will hold that record and continue forward forever. Is that ex-machine a guy? No, you're thinking to Alex Garland, different dude. Oh, Alex Garland was Ex-Machina. That's it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it is 404 AM here in Australia right now. How many more you got? well we usually do 15 because you cut me down from like 25 so I can't imagine why I can't imagine why I did that because we're at 10.04 and we're only I know but we like chatting yeah we do chatting's fun yeah how can you do an odd number and still have an even game that's good point Brian don't question me just behave yourself all right Scott number 13 what is the name of the

combat spacecraft Alex Rogan is meant to pilot in the film The Last Starfighter. Is it A, a gun star, B, StarCraft, C, the Kodine Armada, or D, the Millennium Falcon? It's a gun star, number one, A. Yes. I love that movie. I'm a huge fan. I love it, too.

It's one of my favorite movies. I grew up with that movie. I grew up with it. It was just an awesome movie. Okay, Brian. Yes. All right. Number 14.

So that was normally, so I've got. two extra questions, okay, because you guys are pretty close. Number 14, what city in South Africa does the alien spaceship appear over in the 2009 film District 9? Is it A, Cape Town, B, Durban, C, Johannesburg or D, Funky Town? I wish it was Funky Town. Yeah, you know, Lips Inc wants me to, wants me to pick D, but I'm not going to do it. I... how do you know lip sync wants you to pick that if you've blocked out the chat lip sync is the band that did Funky Town

yeah there's nobody in the chat named Lipsink I thought it busted you I got really excited then I'm like excellent a busted right no like I could I could say pseudo echo because they did the cover in the 80s but I'm going to say lip sync okay uh was it one of the big ones was it Cape Town or Johansburg or was it a smaller one like Durban. I don't think it was Durban.

I think it was Cape Town. I'm going to say Cape Town. You want to Sweetie? Sweetie. What? Oh, sorry. I was doing the, what's his name with his Sweetie?

You like Sweetie? I think it's a steel. Time for a steel. All right. So that was wrong. All right. So Scott, District 9. What South African town?

Cape Town, Durban, Johannesburg, or Funky Town? So Brian said Cape Town. Right? I might not tell you what I said. And then I'll say, Johannesburg. You are correct.

Okay. Yeah. And it was one of the two biggies. Yeah. I couldn't remember exactly either. That's why I had to reiterate it at the end. You were distracting yourself. You were just off there, just having fun.

That's because that guy's walking around with a little alien kid going, sweetie, you like sweetie? Can't have sweetie, sweetie? Do you remember that? I love. I love it. I do remember that correctly. Yeah, that movie's great. And I'm pissed that there was the District 10 sequel never happened.

I'm irritated. I am too because I still think that that some. of the best CGI of a movie of late that actually stands up really well like the

what I call them the um uh cave trolls if Chappie if Chappie would have been better I think we'd have a better

chance of a district 10 but Chappie did not do so well Chappi relied too much on those weird Swedish freaking techno people D deflater mouse what was their name D word hog

Never Take a Bath Ever Again.com. Whatever their name was. Dirkerdorf, whatever it is. Yeah, it's a D. Durkerdorf. It's like, I'm sure there's like a dozen people in the chat yelling at us right now, and that's how you know the chat's not up. Yeah, we would know by now what the answer is. Dice Tomato thought that the district name was meh.

That's because Dice Tomato thinks everything is now. That's Dice Tomato. That's Dice Tomato. You're just a rebel. It has one rubber stamp on his desk, and it says meh. Yeah. Sometimes it says hem because he got it back upside down, but usually met. Prawns, thank you.

Who was that? I can't even pronounce that. Honestly, just pick a name. Don't do weird stuff. Aves Ponovoisson said prawns. That's what they were called, the prawns. So thank you very much. Thank you very much.

All right, so Scott won that. All right, Brian, you get the last question, but. no that was uh scott stole that one so scott gets the last question oh yeah scott yeah true so if you if i get this wrong and you steal it oh no i win either way no you win either way yeah okay and why is he because he started so he shouldn't get the last question well it's because i stole right is that why you guys should just have a cap-hide over it oh i don't i don't know this works that's right give them the question just ask the falkin question leave the canoles or take the Canolies. Okay. All right. 15. Who is the first man out of the Americans in The Thing that starts assimilating with John Carpenter's 1982 The Thing? Is it Palmer, Bennings, Clark, or Enina Morricone?

Oh, my gosh. I don't know this. Can I get the first three again? I don't think that last one's it. No, that's the composer of the awesome score Who got a Raspberry nomination when it was released Yeah, by the way It's a bummer Yeah, the good and the ugly The Raspberry people suck as much as the Oscars They do, yes

Yeah Yeah, okay, so all right So this was a complicated one And I had to rewatch the movie So who first assimilated with the thing Was it Palmer, Bennings or Clark? I'll just say I'll say Palmer, I just don't remember

Correct? Well, it's hard to remember what the characters for their names, I think, and I've seen it a million times, and I've got a crappy memory, so I find it really hard to remember the names for the characters. No, it goes to Brian. Okay, and the two left are Benings and Clark. Benings and Clark.

Let's say Bennings. Correct. Brian just steals it in the end. It was really like a little. So wait, who, which actor was that, was that, that wasn't Wilford Brimley. Was it Brimley? Wilfrid Lasted a long time. I don't think it was Brimley.

Who's Brimley? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's Brimley? Nah, beat us. Anyway, hey. Was it Brimley that died first? No, Bennings was played by Peter Maloney. Okay.

He's the first one. Officially for all the real thing, the thing, John Carpenter. the thing people that I watched on like I researched it because I'm like oh I'm not too sure so all the people that have like really studied this film that's their Bennings was the first to get assimilated with the thing I want to watch the thing again is what this has taught me yeah that's brilliant yeah I love that movie I don't know if I ever saw the remake the recent like the remake from a couple I didn't hate it it was okay not a prequel it's um my no it is a prequel it is a prequel That's right.

It's the Swedish team that goes there first. Which I didn't hate. I didn't hate it. It was okay. It was all right. It was okay. I agree with you, Scott. It was okay.

But the trouble was when they were making the movie, they'd already done the actual in-camera effects for the creatures. And then the pen pushes and the assholes that run studios went, no, let's just CGI the whole thing. And yet they've already filmed. They've already created these things. which as we know stand up so much better and they eliminated that

but actually I didn't mind it I just would have got rid of personally I would have got rid of the American actors and I would have made it completely Nordic with subtitles that's how I would have done it Oh Nordic said Nottie with subtitles Oh of nudity. Oh of course you think that Brian

With subtitles like Swedish subtitles Oh baby oh baby Give me that thing Yeah, give me that thing you know so well, the thing. Do that thing. That thing is so huge. All right. So who won? Come on. I won.

I won. Look at me. Winner, winner. Chicken dinner. I won, everybody. I don't win often, so I'm going to take this one. All right. So for 2021, Scott is 1 and 0.

Here we go. Okay, 1 and 0. I will keep that as a record. Yeah, let that down. And the next quiz will be the end of February. And I'll think of something particularly wicked. That will really stuck you. guys like female romantic comedies.

The love boat. Yeah, songs on the love boat for Brian a bit. Now, you hinted at the top of this that you had some amazing announcement to make. What was that? Oh, you're interested? Yeah. Oh, okay. All right.

Well, first of all the retro cinema that I co-hosted with Angry Man, we've just released a two-parter of the Princess Bride. So go and check that out at the retro cinema. And... I, this year, I am breaking away and I am doing my own Gidgetts, Fab Flicks podcast, which covers all movies of all decades and genres. And my first podcast, I will, it'll just be me with guests. And my first guest is Ian Nathan, who we did for America's next top podcaster challenge in season one. And he's coming on for Heat and LA Confidential.

and I've possibly got this other guy called Brian Ibb Ebert That last name is such a tough one to pronounce Yeah, that guy He said that he'll be a guest on as well So I've just got to get his top 20 movies And we're on the way So that's launching in March That's a tough ask by the way of my top 20 movies

That's going to be a fun list put together But it's going to be agonizing Yeah Well I've had a couple of people send their top 40. I've had a few send their top 40, and I've had one guy send his top 60. So I've got a lot of guests. So, you know, I'm very excited about that.

So, but thank you guys, because you've helped a lot. And I've also got to record the ending for America's next top podcaster. I'll be doing that tomorrow to send to Hammond. Nice. Well, may Hammond smile your direction. We'll see you. Thank you. See, good, you know. All right. We are way over time, so we're going to take a break and play a song. When we come back, my sister will be here for what will probably be a more than usual brief version of Therapy Thursday. So stick around for that. But before that, a music song selection from Brian Ibitt. Yep, a brand new album coming out February 19th from Valley Maker. This is great stuff. Got a little cold play fleet foxes kind of feel to it. This, the brand new album is called When the Day Leaves. Here's the, you're the, you

Here's the single, the first single from it, instrument. It's not you, it's me. All right, here we go. Here's the break. Make me an instrument when I ponder around with my mind turned down. I'm just a drop in the clear on my feet. Hit the ground and I've become the sound of the future. I am not a person.

I called you from berlin hanging on your life. I woke up the timeline just to say, You got it all right. What kind of night could leave you no pain? What kind of lie? You're sweet to the flame. I'll be alive and it rain and always the same. A laugh to the sound of the rain.

Taking pleasure in words Chasing my claim into the distance My resistance That we could remain Make me an instrument Make me an instrument When the long back cloud puts its feet on the ground

I'm just hanging around In love with the sandhound Digging the ground If only to hit a firm foundation, a new day escaping, circling your life, I woke up the timeline just to say, You got it all right, what kind of night could leave you no pain? What kind of like to speak to the flame? I'll be alive in it now, and always the same.

Bird songs, spit and rape, altar calls, making a good. Claiming to the distance, the insistence, that we could remain. You got it all right Some kind of instrument Following the name That sounds Earthquakes Water out

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And the winner is the Talking Dead podcast. Uh, no. This is fucking Moscow. The morning stream, the show where today is tomorrow yesterday and yesterday is tomorrow today. Tomorrow. All right, we're back, everybody.

That's a great moment. It's a really good one, yeah. You never forget. Let me play it again just for fun. And the winner is the Talking Dead podcast. Uh, no. It's moonlight. Sorry, it's moonlight.

Oh, man. If you thought to... La La podcast. Are they doing that this year? What's the deal with... I'm on their site right now. It's registration for the 2021 opens February 1st. Okay.

All right. Beat the rush and. Yeah, get in there because they don't let you in if you've already done it. So good luck. That's right. Hello. Oh, hi, Wendy. Hey, we're like 15 minutes later we usually are with you.

How are you? Yeah. It actually worked out really great for me. So thank. Oh, good. Okay. Blame Australia. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, we had an Australian guest and she goes long. So, you know, it's fine. We like it. But now we play this. So here's Wendy, everybody, who normally I just, you know, reserve my conversations for Thursdays. But lately we've had to communicate a lot more because, you know, we've got the mom stuff going on. And today I'm going over there and I'm sneaking Chick-fil-A in there for her because she hates the food.

Oh. Yeah. For my mom. So she's recovering nicely. She's in rehab. She did not say no, no, no. and she's getting her done there so we're going to go I'm going to go visit and hang out a little bit apparently she can only do this for about a half an hour at a time or else she gets really sleepy

and so my sign will be when she starts to close her eyes I'll just walk out of there so see yeah yeah it'll be hanging waffles fries and go I know we are it's kind of sucks because obviously if Wendy was here it was convenient you'd be over there all the time but but nope I guess Okina went over there yesterday my Korean sister-in-law Okan and hung out, and mom just, like, completely fell asleep on her while she was over there. So, you know, whatever it is, what it is. But we're going to go today, sneak some nuggets and get some nugs in there and hopefully not get caught. They're going to do, they're going to check my temperature.

Hopefully they don't check Kim's purse temperature or however I'm carrying this in, I guess. I'm going by myself. They're like, you seem warm and you smell like my childhood. Yeah. What smells like waffle fries? I'm a peach shake. Oh, that sounds so good. I can't eat those anymore.

Anyway, hey, it's my sister, Wendy. She comes on the show as a professional therapist person type person who is actually one of those and does this all the time for her real life. But it comes on Thursdays and helps us with little problems here and there. You got an email this time that we're going to read. And it's interesting. It's perfect for what we're going to talk about. And also perfect for a year like 2021 with all of its weirdness. Let's dive right in.

This is from Anonymous, who says, With the new year starting, nearly everyone in my life is talking about trying a new diet or fitness regime. Every friend, sorry, even friends that are even normally fit are trying to recover after almost a year of quarantine and lockdown. I feel the same way. I have done a lot of, a lot more eating and a lot less exercising since last March. Boy, howdy, can I relate to this? Yeah. Don't know what that's like at all.

Yeah, I'm sure none of us do. Mostly I've been doing whatever it takes to just get through this. however, thinking about dieting makes me very depressed. Over the last 20 years or so, I have tried so many diets and lifestyle programs. To name a few, I've done Weight Watchers, old and new, a whole 30, lose it, diet bet, low carb, no processed foods, even Richard Simmons Food Mover. It sounds like fiber. It sounds like a video game on Steam. Yeah, food mover. Richard Simmons Food mover. Finally, he's making his big comeback in video game.

Oh, no, all the food went into the furnace hole. You better move the food. Anyway, I've joined communities where people will motivate and hold each other accountable. The Lose It Group is pretty good at that. Every time has been the same. I get into the program with a lot of energy and then I see it start to work and then I get excited. And I do lose weight, but I've never been able to stick to any of them longer than about six months. I slide back into old eating habits and before I know it, I've came back all the weight and stopped even trying.

I just don't have the discipline to stick with any of the plans that I've tried before, but now I'm thinking about it constantly because all around me on Facebook at work, on the podcast I listen to, etc., everyone is doing something to try to control their weight or be healthier. Is it even worth trying again? Is there any plan that won't fail at? Do I just, see, is there any plan that I won't fail at? Do I just need to keep trying until I find the right one? Is there something wrong with me that I need to fix before trying again, sincerely anonymous? oh man i know this feeling like i know i know what i would work for me like i know it because i've done it before it's just so back up yeah you know it would work for you yeah well if it had worked you wouldn't have to talk about it well i know what works for if i if i if i know what works temporarily say that yes yes i know what works temporary no let me put it this way if i had the willpower greater than the flea, the micro-flee, I could still be doing this. How about that? Because I know it works. In 2015, I lost like 30 pounds and I was on a treadmill every day and I ate less.

It was as simple as that. I just was on the, I was 30 minutes of hard walking, some jogging, and ate less. That was it. That was it. That's all I had to do. So why can't I do it now? I don't know. I guess we're going to talk about that. It's, yeah, I think a lot of us can relate to this. And somebody even said, Brian, did you write this email? I was like, no, I could have. The only difference is that I'm still on Weight Watchers, I haven't left it. So real quick. So both of you, this, you relate to this.

You talk in particular ways. Everyone you know also talks this way for the most part, right? Yeah. I mean, which is, Scott, word for word, what you just said, which is I know what I'm supposed to do if I could only. And this emailer boiled it down to something a little more. sinister maybe that's not the right word but which is is something wrong with me right right so you just said it in a different word which is you know uh if i had more will will power than a flea

so that means something's wrong with you yeah you don't have enough willpower right okay so what if i'm going to blow your minds here guys ready okay what if literally everyone is wrong and i don't Something's wrong with everyone? Yeah. Well, what I mean is wrong about the core premise. You sound like me yesterday when I was saying, what if money isn't even real after that game spot? I know.

And that's where I'm hesitant to say any of this because that's how it feels. Because I usually can't stand anything like that. Well, like, you know, it's just conspiratorial or it's like, I know something doctors don't want you to know. Right. Like it's nothing like that. It's that having an, and someone from another country listening, please back me up on this. If you are an American, you are living in a system that is meant to make you fat.

It's true. Like just, so for example, I mean, you may know this about a lot of countries in Africa, why they are eons ahead of us in time using cell phones. It's because of the infrastructure that didn't sort of couldn't handle. power lines and the phone systems there, right? So they didn't have all that copper in the ground already and they didn't have above ground wire you like all the stuff they didn't have. They're using a different alternative or a technology which in the end we all ended up

using in the end, right? But that's because the infrastructure wasn't there in the first place like it is here. And another thing that's here, which this is related, which is roads. I mean, we are a car centric country. Oh yeah. And so our moving around is, you know, like when you go to the grocery star, Scott, do you try to find the furthest parking spot? Is that natural to you? Well, now it is. How far can you walk? Now we do the whole, like, we're outside come put it in our trunk deal. But, but you're right. So you move even less. Yeah. So even less. Yeah. Like that's the thing with the, with the pandemic here is we were already kind of weird with that stuff. And now we're like, bring the groceries to my car for. an extra $2 or whatever we're doing. Right. Right. Okay. So what I'm getting at is like when the individual who does all the things they think they're supposed to do and have tried things that they've felt successful

in. And again, I mean, obviously I'm all about real steps. And so this is going to sound like an advertisement for it. But it really is my philosophy. And that is there is no design if you live in an American city, or especially outside of an American city, you know, because sometimes inside a city you have more chances to move. Yeah. You have to for transportation reasons. But there's no city designed for your well-being, unless there's some little cool enclave, someone's designed and built that does that.

I mean, I even think, Scott, your neighborhood in theory was supposed to create more of this, right? It's supposed to, yeah, because they've got, you know. How many cars? Can I even park in front of your house? No. That's the problem. They were so, they were trying to discourage that, that.

what you're describing because of the way they design the roads. There's like, you know, lots of cutting, cut in, cut out, cutting, cut out of the same road. It's supposed to also apparently make it so people are more mindful when they're driving and they're not like swerving and stuff like that. But instead what we have is people who have two car garages but fill their garage with a crap and now their two cars are out in the front and two of them are in front of my house right now because the guy has no other place to put his cars. Like that kind of stuff is stupid. I hate it. Right, because the whole, you can't just design a community that then is surrounded by a car-centric world. Like, it's hard to, you'd have to really just find all the hippies and put them in there and, you know, it's not going to work.

Anyway, so the point is like, so when we look at ourselves as the source of the problem and we don't look at the system in which we are in, we're going to miss so much of what it's really about. But this is how it translates. If I can't do it, and it seems like everyone on Instagram can do it, then I must be broken. And so if we ask anybody, and I don't want to discourage your weight watch for journey here, Brian, so I apologize. No, that's all right. If you ask, so Brian, are you finding success with it right now? I do if I follow it 100%. Like when I was following it, losing weight, hand over fist, you know.

And even when I wasn't exercise, then I added exercising. And I thought, well, that gives me heart blanche to maybe have a little piece of cheese on my toast or, you know, do this or do that. And so I know, I absolutely know that Weight Watchers is in the problem. The problem is definitely me. Okay. So Weight Watchers, don't, no one quote me, is the problem. What? All of the solutions are the problem in the sense that the number one, you look at,

You know, the studies that are the overview of all the studies that are ever done, right? You know, the histomological studies, they show that the number one correlation for weight gain is having dieted, which is like awful, right? So the thing we're told is the solution is actually the thing that really ensures that you'll gain weight back or you'll gain more weight. So that's very common, right? I mean, you've both experienced this. You lose weight. Then when you gain it back, do you gain more? No.

Yeah, I've gained some of it back, but not not. It wasn't where I was at two Novemores ago. Yeah. I did the same. Like I made some fundamental changes like sugars out of my diet. I eat less carbs. And so I lost some weight and stayed there. But I know I could, I know I could lose more.

I just know I could. Yeah. You just know it. Okay. So here's what I'm getting at. The focus of all of this right now is we are taking one measurement of health, which is how much you weigh when you get on a scale and deciding that that means you're good or bad, healthy or not. And it's not.

Right? Yeah. Can't be. Yeah. I mean, it's the metric that you use for losing weight, but it's not the metrics for all life success, for sure. Right. Do you guys know any skinny fat people? Do you know what that is?

Is that like Christian Bale? It's like Christian Bale when he lost all that money, or money, all that weight for the machinist and then turned around and gained a bunch of weight for Batman and then lost a ton for something else and then gained 80 pounds to play to play Cheney, like that kind of thing? Or do you mean like... No, that sounds like torture. It does sound like Josh Gad, is that skinny fat or Wayne Knight from Seinfeld? Okay, so when you measure your body fat percentage, right, so they drop you in one of those watertubs or there's other ways to do it that aren't quite as efficient as that, but, you know, you can find someone who looks perfectly acceptable as the skinny human that everyone thinks they're supposed to be, right?

And they'll have more body fat than somebody next to them that doesn't look like the super skinny model type. and someone might even consider overweight. So weight and BMI, which are some, they're metrics. It's not to say they're not metrics. They're just not accurate to describe someone's well-being or health, right? But again, my point is this is like I'm picking like little nuances of the weight loss world and trying to point out that they are a piece of it. But what does each of these pieces do to your brain?

So I'm going to put you on the spot for a second, Scott. How good do you feel about your body? Just give me a 10 being like, I feel great. And I don't have to waste much time thinking about it because it feels great and I'm happy with it. Zero being, I feel awful and I think about how crappy it is or I feel a lot. You know, kind of not only how you feel about it, but like how much of your time goes into thinking about it. I have a perfect answer for this. I really believe in this number.

I think I'm at a five. That's where I feel. I feel right, dead center in the middle because there's days where I'm like, it feel pretty good for a, you know, for a guy. And usually when I'm not feeling good about it, it's usually purely, well, I guess it's always mental, right? Because your brain is the thing that determines how you feel about anything. Right. It's kind of dumb to say. But you know what I mean? Like, I don't feel like it's like, it's not like I'm surprising myself. I look myself in the mirror and go, oh, man, what a manly man, this man. And like, I'm not doing that ever.

So I think somewhere in the middle there, like a five, bonk. Okay. Yeah. So, Brian, I won't ask you because you're not my brother. But I want both of you to answer this. When was the first time age-wise that you thought about your weight or your physique or that it wasn't good enough? It didn't match the norm.

Like, you became critical of it or aware that. you were critical of it. Do you guys know how old you were then? Because that always recedes dieting. It was 1998 or 1999. We went to Houston and we drove down to Houston with Tristan and went to Stewart's Beach and we're out there playing. Tristan's getting seashells. I brought out the camcorder at that point because it was before I had a phone that could take video. And And then I looked back and saw video of me in my swim trunks and thinking, holy crap, what, what happened to me? But see, I think I know where Wendy's getting at with this. It just occurred to me. Okay. So just yesterday, I saw a photo of me and our brother Matt just making faces and being dorks.

And I remember the day I took that photo and put it up on Twitter and Facebook. I remember saying, look at me. I looked old and fat. Like, oh, well, I'll just put this photo up. I remember that distinct emotion that day. I looked at that photo yesterday, just going through some old photos. I looked great. Like, I looked, I looked 30 pounds lighter. I had, I don't know, I just looked better. I looked better.

I looked younger. I don't know what I was thinking back then. But now that I think about it, it has always been like this. When I was young, when I was a kid, I was too skinny. And I couldn't stay. If we played shirts and skins in basketball, I had to be shirts or I was gone. I couldn't take my shirt off because I knew I looked like a spaghetti monster underneath. Like that way, but now I look at photos like the dad took when we were all kids.

I looked fine. I look like a normal freaking 11, 12 year old. Not a problem. And my entire life I've done this. So like, you know, I remember in 2015 thinking I looked bad. I look at photos of me from 2015. That's maybe the best I've ever looked. So what the frick is wrong with our brains?

Well, and the reason I asked, so Brian wasn't until 1998 that he was even aware of his body. So good job, Brian. But it's a healthier, that's a healthy response in the sense of that's not been the center of your life. It's not taking up all your brain power, I assume, right? And then as you age and you do feel different in your body, your body does change because there is a developmental cycle. You don't, you're not born and then old and nothing changes in between. right there's there's stuff and so you start to be more aware so that's on the pretty you know pretty normal range now so then what do you do you do the thing that everyone around you has you do

which is you diet or you exercise more or you do whatever right but no one never stops and goes you know Brian I think we we should spend some time like working on some grieving the loss of sort of your younger years and and thinking about right now and your needs your emotional state That's not what anyone's talking about. They're like, all right, try this diet. It's amazing. All you eat is leaks and raisins. And you're going to love it, right?

So, I mean, obviously Weight Watchers is a much more healthy version of a diet plan. But that idea of like it's never about the actual brain, Scott, like you're talking about, your emotional life or your brain. So you, Scott, were too skinny, too skinny. So you were what we would call skinny fat. Maybe now you, I don't know. but maybe weren't super healthy while you were super skinny. And that's the problem is it's not about health. It's about how I'm perceived, how I feel in my own skin, how the world looks at me, et cetera.

That makes this hyper focus on weight, thighs, et cetera, and not on the brain. Well, it's because, I mean, who modeled anything to you? Right. Your parents? What was the dieting, you know, fen, fend in the 1980s? It's not been good for a while, right? Yeah, right. So very few really healthy models in our own lives maybe or and definitely not

advertising to us. I mean, dieting is a $2 billion industry, right? So we are fed over and over what we should think about how to be healthy. Then when we do it, maybe we're success for a little while, then we can't. So now we think we suck and we don't have willpower and ever shall that cycle spin, right? So, Scott, let's take you. Take me. When did you think you were fat?

When did that become? I'm too skinny to I'm too fat. At about 26 and forward, I have always felt like the tables had turned. There was a moment where I went from, I am way too skinny and I hate that I'm this skinny and I can't gain weight. and that was the modus operandi for most of my life up until about 2526 when I got what at the time seemed like the enormous but what I just got a little bit of like dad fat no big deal like it wasn't I look back now so stupid but at the time it seemed like a big deal and since then and forward I've always felt like I'm this weird combo of like tall and fat and then that's never really quite less. left. Like, even at my skinniest, I would still be like, does this shirt, do I look like I got a little punch here? Like, oh, my gosh, look at this. And again, in retrospect and looking at photos and stuff, I don't see it. It's just not there. But at the time it was, like, if

anything, it's helped me understand how somebody with, like, a, like serious body image issues, which may, maybe I have. But I think I understand it. I understand it more. When people look in a mirror and they see something different than what everyone else sees, I get it. Like, I do quite literally see something very different than I see. But then sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised. Like, I felt like a monster at our first TMS meetup in Vegas in 2018

because I'd really put on some weight that year. And just thought the whole time, ugh, I'm so I don't want to even, I don't want to know what it look like or whatever. And then we get all these pictures back that TVZ gone in the chat room took. I look great. Some of my favorite pictures

of me and Brian hanging out. They were great. So I don't know why at the time in a mirror, I see something different than I see later. It's like my art. I do the same thing. I draw something. I can't stand it until like a year later. I'm like, oh, it was pretty good. I do the same thing. So I don't know if that's even tied. So everyone in the chat room, raise your hand. If you are, if you can relate to Scott, that no matter where you're at, you're not happy with your body at the moment. We're going to see a ton of raised hands on the stream. There is. And what if you are, Brian, raise your.

raise your other hand if you can relate to Brian that it was sort of like not top of mind your whole life and then became something that you so so far they haven't heard you quite yet because of delay now they'll be hearing you but lots of raised hands on this on the scott side yeah and i don't know where it's going to change if they're going to do two hands up or what they're going to do maybe they're feeling both i guess diced his other hand so maybe that's the one yeah well done dyes tomato Good job. Yeah, I don't know. Good job.

So that's, my point is we're going to find the vast majority of us. It definitely one of those two categories. You get old enough. You're eventually in the Brian camp. And then a lot, a lot of people. And there's a reason I'm bringing up the sort of lifespan issue around this is that there are parts of us that will come online when we are shamed about food as young children or when we learn to cope with stress with food as young children,

or the food we're being fed is very sugary and salty and hits all the dopamine receptors in a way that just makes us feel better, right? And so it depends on developmentally when we start having different experiences with food, with shame, with our body. So very, very often for women developmentally, it happens around 11 and 12 when we start to hit puberty and our bodies are changing and then they're being noticed and suddenly we go from carefree kid running around to sex objects and it's, you know, this is a little dramatic, but it's not untrue. And so suddenly how I look or

perceive, you know, so we start to have mental things that happen in order to help us as we develop, right? Or as we grow. And so it's to protect us from some creeper. We have a part of us that will then wear lots of baggy clothes or somebody telling us anything that's unkind about our body. Maybe we hadn't, we wouldn't hear it at a certain developmental stage, but we do when we're more self-conscious, you know, middle schoolers or something, right? So now we have all of these things around our body, how we feel, how we live our life in our body, that are mental.

And they've come online to protect us as we've grown up. and they don't go away as adults. So that's how Scott you can be too skinny at one stage and then think you're too big at another stage. And really all of those different times, looking backwards, you can go, oh, see, I was fine. And it's because it was never about your size.

It's still not about your size. It is about these sort of factors that come into play. So this is what's hard. I'm going to speak for the emailer here that you're hearing people, talk about dieting. They're on the podcast and on your TV and on your whatever in January going, all right, everyone, buckle in. Let's get off sugar and dry January and like all these health strategies because we just were gluttonous up through December. The rest, all the whole world

was gluttonous since last March, you know, like we've all been, we've all been comfort eating for a long time. And we jump right back into the behaviors that biologically are actually kind of dangerous for our weight. So that's going back to, and I can send you links to some of the studies that show just dieting is the number one precursor for weight gain, which is supposed to be the thing that's helping you with it. So it's not that Weight Watchers is a great example of something where you just eat a little less of the stuff you already like and your body goes, oh, cool, I don't, I don't need

that much, that many calories, thanks. And like, it will respond and find a nice set weight for the most part, right? but then why can't I just eat that amount the rest of my life? What is actually happening? Some of it is the design of your world, right? You never move because it's not built in the design. And every around you is something sugary and salt and high in cholesterol or something that's in front of you.

So it's hard. We run out of willpower. But we never stop and go, okay, how do I get here? Why do I think the way I think? and what can I do about some of these things? To me, that's the real diet plan. It's mental, the one that actually works. The other just messes with our metabolism and messes with our body.

Take, for example, eating significantly less calories than you normally do in order to lose weight, you are signaling to your brain that there's a scarce year in your farm, and you are maybe not going to make it through winter. So after losing so much weight, it will also start to crave more. You're literally telling your whole system you're starving. So it will crave more. It will then eventually you'll run out of willpower because it's a finite resource and you will eat more and you will gain all that weight back. So if we're denying how biology actually works by dieting, making it so much worse.

And then we're not tackling any of the mental stuff. Right. So all that to be said, we're all doing it. wrong and we all don't know it. That's what's so hard. Not only that, but it's like you said, it's a $2 billion, probably more than that dollar industry.

I'm guessing it's a lot more than that. But that means that people are looking for simple answers that you can just throw a little money at and then walk away fixed. And why do we freaking do that? Why is that a thing? Why can't we just go, well, the hard thing to do, which is the correct thing to do, is this?

And then we do that. Well, let's try something right now. I mean, you're right on, but let me, let's do something experiential really quick. Okay, so I want both of you to close your eyes. Closed. I'm not looking at you, so I can't. Are you on screen? I promise.

Yeah, your eyes are closed. Eyes are closed. Okay, close eyes. And everyone else can do this too. I'm going to close your eyes. Let me take a big breath. and then I want you to use your mind's eye and that little third eye in the middle of your forehead

and I want you to scan your body till you get to your stomach and I just want you to... What if I started there? Is that a problem? No, it's fine. You're in your stomach and I just want you to take a second and see if you're hungry. I'm so hungry.

Well, you do the fast thing where you haven't eaten yet today. Yeah, I don't eat till 11. so I am hungry. Okay, so you're really hungry right now. So I want to describe the hunger. I mean, I have a name for it. I mean, I want a chicken sandwich. Right.

Like, literally, that's what I want. So I'll name it. Because we were talking about chicken sandwiches. We were talking about Chick-fil-A and even thinking about a chicken sandwich. Sneaking chicken into mom made me think about chicken sandwiches. I'm, give it a name. Yeah, like how, like, give it a rating. Tens is the hungry as you've ever been your whole life.

You're dying, literally dying. Okay. To zero being the Thanksgiving Day. I'm at a five again. I'm sitting in the middle somewhere. Okay. That's not a copy, but I really just feel average about it. So you're hungry.

So what does your body need? Food. I know it's craving a chicken sandwich doesn't need. need a chicken sandwich? No. No. It could be, it probably needs protein.

Okay. And it thinks it needs carbs. Probably needs some water. Do you need some water? Probably some water, sure. I could go for some water. Yeah. So,

so right now, you just tuned into your hunger cues. You are already hungry. Great. You know your body needs some food. And then you just take a second and check into what it actually needs. and then go feed it that.

Now, here's the hard part is once you start eating and you can't eat too fast because our brains don't let us know we're full until 20 minutes after eating. So if you eat 1,000 calories in 20 minutes, you have absolutely bypassed the system that then will tell you you're good. You could have stopped at 600. Yeah, totally. So that's what you've got to eat undistracted and be paid. present and slower a little slower right and then just pay attention to how you're feeling am i feeling a little full do i want a little more and half the time it's like mouth taste like you just want like something to taste in your mouth not necessarily it's about your

hunger and so go get something to make your mouth taste good but the thousand calories going by unconsciously is a thousand calories in one sitting that you don't feel good from So the idea is that we're so out of tune with what our body actually needs and how it feels that any diet, any plan, any someone else telling you what to do will always backfire eventually because you have not tuned into what your body feels or needs. It's kind of like you're asking someone to, you know, you're asking all these people to operate their system based on this plan. and then it doesn't take into account that any of these individual factors, right?

So where I'm getting this from, and this is a great book if anyone's interested in, it's called intuitive eating, and it really is about eating whatever you want, whenever you want. But you first have to know what you want and how you feel and if you're actually hungry or not, right? So that whole thing of like, am I bored? Oh, yeah, I'm bored. Oh, I guess I don't need to eat a chicken sandwich because I'm bored. or, you know what, I'm bored and I feel like eating my chicken sandwich. That is healthier than just eating your chicken sandwich.

It's not about the sandwich. It's about you. And so when I, going back to this developmental thing, when a kid has had the bond broken between, am I hungry or not when they're five years old because they're constantly stuffed with snacks? They don't ever gain that awareness. They don't even know what it feels like. One time I had a friend say to me, we couldn't get pizza.

out a big thing and she was hungry and she goes, I think this might be the first time I've been hungry in five years. Like, what? And it's because she just makes sure she's always eating. So she has disconnected from that cue. So are you out of tune with your cues? I'm assuming everybody is, right? Yeah. And so part of the recovery process is to get back in tune with your cues. So the book, Intuitive Eating's awesome. There's lots of stuff on this. It's coming, it's getting bigger now because I think there's a there's kind of a rebound effect of like none of this is working right so what is what is it and it's this connection of our minds and the stories our minds tell us the you know the challenges that have been created through our development and relationship

to food our histories with food that's one piece of it the other piece is that we're just disconnected to what our body feels needs wants it is meant to me move. It is meant to have food as fuel. It's meant to eat slow because there was never a whole meal handed to us historically, you know, we can get food now in a way that's insane. And so we're just, we have a system that is basically set against us and we have to figure out how to sort of use our internal selves to change it. Yeah. And this is, I mean, this is right out of your real steps thing. It is all we do. Yeah. It's the new. nutrition.

And I'm going to speak for the Real Steps community because we're now a community. Anyway, I just love that. I think it's so good. I just never thought I'd have one and say that out loud. So I'm very proud of them. You all think I'm the only one that makes fart noises in conversation. I just want to point out my sister just did it. Okay?

I'm sorry. I've gotten so much better over the years. They think it's me. They think it's just me, but I'm telling you there's something in our genes. Anyway, go ahead. I know, it's true. And is this, is that for them, they have come to this place where it's really hard for them to hear anyone talk about dieting.

Like it's almost repelling. You're just like, no, you guys, no, you're going to only make your situation worse. So I've started a cult, is what I'm saying. No, it really is this like a shift in your relationship with your body and food. And then it doesn't have to be so dominant. It doesn't have to be every January. It's you're able to quiet down those parts of you or those voices that are shaming you and telling you you're awful. And you can just like really enjoy your chocolate.

And it's amazing because when you just enjoy your food because you A, are connected to how you feel and you're taking enough time and being present with it, you can eat whatever you want. You'll still eat much, much less. So you can say, oh, isn't that a diet? No, it's your body getting what it needs and your mind being free from like the baggage that it carries. So, yeah. So obviously I sound like a cult leader. Anyway, you guys should join. It's super fun.

Yeah, get over there. Realsteps.org, by the way, if we haven't said the address enough today because we haven't. I think we just now did. So go check that out. It's real steps. org and that's the program. I mean, this is the stuff they're talking about. And I should probably take it.

We're never going to weigh you. You're not even allowed to have a scale in this. It is all, it's hard work, though. I'll tell you. People are like, who, okay, I got to dig into my inner child. This is rough. What I'd like to do is eat my chicken sandwich. Just don't burn your scales because that's environmentally poorer choice.

It'll burn plastics and metal. Just hide them. They may slide under your bed really easily. There you go. Yeah, it starts Monday, and we've got a new round coming, and it's exciting. I'm really excited. for the new stuff coming down the pipe. So thanks for letting me secretly advertise it for the last 40 minutes.

Very nice. I like it. Yeah, that's what this all was, by the way. We're being up front about it. I'm being very transferred. Well done. And I want weight watchers to work for you, Brian. But I want you to tell me in a year and a half that it worked for you.

And it stayed working and you never stop. That's what I want to hear. Never rubber banded. Yeah. Never rubber banded. And then I will change my mind about diets. Maybe. All right.

all right me and Oprah we'll tell you yeah and Oprah Ryan's going to upset the entire apple cart I cannot wait to see that's right how this goes uh there you go that's it for today Wendy anything any message you want me to take to mom today while I'm over there yeah tell her hi I need to figure out how to call her and not have her be asleep or something yeah she's got but I was supposed to go today at two but now I got to do it later because she's got they've been really cranking through her therapy stuff her physical therapy stuff and that's good

But it's like, I think it's a lot. She had like six people in a row the other day doing different things. One was speech, one was movement, mobility stuff where she had to walk around. And then one was just like limb stuff. So it's just like nonstop. So I'm not surprised she's pooped or that she wants chicken nuggets. But I'm going to hook her up today. She'll be good.

So Scott, I want to give you a challenge. I want you to get yourself a chicken sandwich. Okay. I want everyone. Challenge accepted. So whatever everyone's craving today, I want you to get it. Okay. Get that item.

Yeah. And then do three things. One, before you eat it, write down how hungry you are on a scale of zero to ten. Intuitive eating, you can Google it, and there's like a hunger scale you can find that can just kind of give you a way to measure. Like, I'm having cramps, I'm so hungry, or I'm not hungry at all, or whatever, right? So just gauge your hunger level. and then hold that sandwich in your hand and just take your time slowly, really enjoy eating it. And just eat it slowly.

Make sure it takes at least 20 minutes to eat the thing. Yeah. So whatever it is. Write my number on the wrapper of the burrito supreme. Yeah. Okay. But you got to eat it slowly, 20 minutes and like really taste it. I don't know if I'm in the car that long.

Yeah. You got to really appreciate it. And here's the thing. If you do that with everything you crave, you'll be astounded at that you'll start to taste it and think it doesn't taste good or you'll love it. So it's all about like treating yourself well, right? Eat something you actually love instead of crave something you don't actually really enjoy. So just try it. Slow her down, write out your hunger first and then eat it slowly and then see how you feel.

Okay. I'm doing that today. I'm doing it. All right. Enjoy. And give mom some chicken nuggets. That's great. Get mom some nuggets.

It's damn straight. I mean, mom's too. Look, when you're 82, you can go ahead and just keep all your bad habits, but we have no excuse. Free pass.

Free pass for 82-year-olds with brain surgery. You guys can do what you want to do. Do that. Wendy is always a pleasure. RealSteps. Go check it out. And we'll talk to you next week. Have a fantastic week.

All right. You too. Bye. See you, Wendy. So don't just go, Mmm, sausage. Go. Mmm.

Saussie. Let's see how long it sounds to you today. You want to see? Okay. All right. All right. So Brian, Brian's pretty sure this gets longer every time. Whoops.

Sauce. If I could spell sausage, we'd have it. All right, here we go. Sausage. It's amazing. It's absolutely the weirdest psychological. Because I know. I'm like Joey pants on the Matrix.

I know that this. is the same audio clip we've been playing ever since we first got it but my mind is telling me that it's longer and longer every single time it's like that um do you know how there's a there's a there's a there were a bunch of uh i think vine maybe did it first but i saw some tictox it did it there's this musical tone that even when you loop it so it's the same exact thing looped it sounds in your brain like it's always going up have you heard that before oh really no huh i haven't seen that you could find that because we could play it right here. But that's what basically you're experiencing.

It's like our brains are so weird. It's green needle and brainstorm. It's the same thing. Yeah. Yanny and Lauren. What is that one called? Chatroom? Layered audio.

Is that what it is? Layered audio. All right. Let me see if I can find this example because it is so weird. Okay. Oh, that's also a thing people use in other stuff. So it's hard to find this. Oh, but there's one.

YouTube, Claire Gack. Okay. Is that what this is? Claire Gack? Oh, yeah. So this is not actually going up. That's definitely going up. I mean, that's the point of it is it's, okay, it's called the shepherd tone.

Audio illusion formed by overlaying separate tones separated by octaves that each rise and fall, depending on the nature of the shepherd tone in question, and repeat independently of one another. As a result, the sound seems to continually get higher, but it is not getting higher. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no. So, so what's happening is it's going up an octave, but because it's three things that are layered on top of each other, it's, when the loop starts, it's seamless to where that sound is still going up. Yeah. Like, it's still constantly going up, but you're hearing what was octave one starting now at octave two. Your brain is connecting octave one into octave two going up.

Right. But the trick of it is if you do it in a short loop, like I just did, if you do it in, like I just did, if you do it in, like, like a six second loop without a break, it appears to just eternally go up. Like you never... Right, right, right. Because, yeah, I mean, you're hearing, what's a good example of this? I mean, you're basically, if you drew a bunch of lines going in a diagonal on your piece of, on a, in an illustrator, right? A bunch of repeating lines.

And you figured out if you drew a horizontal line, perfectly horizontal line, where the, where the first line crosses it, and cut it off right there so that your second line starts at that point. And it's just like a seamless pattern that you could put in there. Same thing. Yeah, it's like a visual version of that. You're looking at the same lines, but it is constantly going up. Yeah, it's like a, yeah, totally. Like looking at a spring.

If you're looking at a spring rotating. Oh, right, right. That just curl, yeah, it goes up forever. So here's a better, they say in the chat, this is a better one. Hold on. Let's see what this is. Okay. Looks like the same one.

Oh, this is the one I heard on TikTok. okay i'm not looping it yeah but it it still feels like it's going higher you're hearing your brain is following the the one the the prominent one that's going up yeah even though about halfway through that the lower one started again the bottom of the screw cut cut cut in yeah isn't that crazy though that is just crazy i love that stuff anyway thanks chat for digging those up that's cool yeah uh well that's not going to be up for the show everybody nice long one today uh but that's okay we had a great time patreon.com slash tms is where you can show how much you loved this extra long one oh yeah hello head over there and uh check us some change at patreon.com slash tms and keep this show

alive it is how the lights stay on and if you'd like them to be on and get all the extra benefits you get from it then that's how you do it that's how the um sausage gets made that's right frogpans.com slash TMS for everything else. Brian, we should probably play a song here at the end of the show. Oh, a reminder, tomorrow, TMSPM, 330 Mountain. So be here for that. And we'll have the film sack over the weekend. There will be an instance tomorrow.

Be a coverville today, Neil Diamond, Alicia Keys, and Phil Collins. Fantastic. But when you put all three of those together in covers, it's like, oh, these totally go together because all the bands that are covering them are kind of all in the same rock. America. What's your, give me your favorite. favorite uh what's your favorite nil diamond yeah forever in blue jeans i think forever in blue money talks that's so good it don't say that's and it can't walk i don't know how the rest goes

yeah but i like it too um all right that's it song play song now this one goes out to i am sci-fi i am sci-fi ian wrote in and said hey there satchel and bucket it's ian that i am sci-fi fella. Now the 2020 is finally over, I get to celebrate 2021 by getting another year older and officially entering my late 30s. 37, don't do me wrong. Rather than go old school and feel older,

I figure I'd request a cover that may connect with the Utes. Any cover of the weekend, he spelled it out, weekend with like three E's, you happen to have probably auto-correct. Would work with me, especially as the birthday falls on a Thursday this year. Love the Pumba though. P.S., let's test

the ship's phasers oh okay uh can do let's test the ship's phasers there you go there you go so any cover of the weekend i was starting with a cover of i can't feel my face when i'm with you because i do really like that song and then i realized oh no last year on the most recent triple j like a version album there was a great cover of blinding lights by the naked and famous this thing is awesome uh blinding lights originally by the weekend covered here by the naked and and famous for triple j see you guys next monday unless you're a patron in that case we'll see you tomorrow i've been trying to call i've been on my own for long enough maybe you can show me how to love maybe i'm going through with drills

You don't even have to do too much You can turn me on with just a touch Baby I look around and since it is cold and empty No one's around to judge me I can't see clearly where you're gone I said Ooh

I'm blinded by the lights No, I can't sleep on until I feel your time touch. I said, ooh, I'm drowning in the night. Oh, when I'm like this, you're the one I'm struck. See the sunlight of the sky, baby Sincities cold and nasty No one's around to judge me I can't see clearly when you're gone I said

Ooh I'm blinded by the lights So I can't sleep hard Still I feel your touch I said I'm drowning in the night Oh, when I'm like this You're the one I trust

He's walking by your leggy low I can never say it on the phone We'll never let you go this time I said Ooh I'm blinded by the lights No, I can't sleep on till I feel your touch I said

Ooh I'm blinded by the lights Oh feel your touch as to you this show. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at Frogance.

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