The Morning Stream - TMS 2066: You can't handle the TOOTH!

Episode Date: February 11, 2021

I Need A BONE Detector! Jamaica's out of weeeeed. Who's Our New Cute?? Hippie Dippie Mystic Gimme. Don't Rush Geddy Lee. He Likes Dudes! He Married One! I Just SLOWLY Fall To My Death. Binary with 2's... instead of 0's. Spam in the Clipclop. 17 Murders Unsolved Due to Gross-Out. I Don't Even Transmog in Real Life! Check Out That Adonis of an Orthodontist. Free Means Not Having to Pay. Spreading Their Gare-Aff Seed With Bobby! Looking at your dark bits with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Growing up, cereal was one of the best parts of being a kid, but I had to give it up because I realized it was full of sugar and junk that you really shouldn't eat. Go to magic spoon.com slash TMS and grab a variety pack and try it today. And be sure to use our code, TMS at checkout, to save $5 off your order. Coming up on TMS, I need a bone detector. Jamaica's out of weed. Who's our new key? Oh, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I just threw a mon in there. Oh, man. Oh, nice. Who's our new cutie? Hi-dip-dippy mystic gimmie. Don't rush Getty Lee. He likes dudes. He married one.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I almost did Getty Lee. Um, I just slowly fall to my death. Binary, with twos instead of zeros. Spam in the clip-clop. 17 murders unsolved due to gross out. I don't even transmog in real life. Check out that Adonis of an orthodontist. Free means not having to pay.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Spreading their garaff seed with Bobby. Looking at your dark bits with Wendy and more on this episode of of The Morning Stream. Hi, I'm Jesse Ventura. Eat Uncle Brewster's chicken sandwiches. 9-11 was an inside job. Do I smell this stink of jealousy? I lost my daughter to the abyss, but tonight I'm calling her back.
Starting point is 00:01:23 This is the morning stream. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS. It is the morning stream for February 11, 2021. Wait, so that's 2.121. 2.1.21. Yeah. It's like broken binary is what it is. Yeah, I like that one.
Starting point is 00:01:49 That's pretty good. That'll bring the whole system down if you said. Yeah, so what do we have? 212. 212.1 will be, that'll be tomorrow. Oh, that's not bad. That's a pretty good one. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:02:00 That's my favorite Rush album. Pretty good stuff. 2212 later on this month. Yeah. Gettie Lee singing. Fly by night. Change my life again. That might be my favorite one he sings.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Because most of the time I make. That's such a great song. I just think Rush suffers from, how do we put this? I like Rush. But I think Getty Lee's kind of annoying a lot of times. His voice, his vocals. Yeah. They've always kind of annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Because it's just kind of... Like, it's just kind of a... Just that he sings in a higher register? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know why. How do you feel about the crash test dummies? I love those guys.
Starting point is 00:02:44 With the whole... So you're okay with Brad Roberts. You're not okay with Geddy Lee, is what you're saying. I'm not saying I'm not okay. They're one of the greatest all-time rock. fans of all time, but I just, I don't know. It's like, you know what it's like? What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's a little bit like David Lee Roth. This is another controversial statement. I just, his voice drives me crazy. It just does. And I love Van Halen and especially love the early stuff, but Dave's not the strong point for me. Never was. Just kind of a annoying guy going, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It may be a me thing. It's a me thing. I'm fine. I'll admit. It's a you thing. You are entitled, listen, you're entitled to your choice. Yeah. And if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
Starting point is 00:03:39 There you go. You're absolutely right. I also made another choice. I made a choice that I'm a little, I'm kind of regretful now because now I wish I wouldn't have been so grossed out and would have saved it for the show. But I found a tooth in the yard, a human tooth. A tooth. A tooth. You're sure it was a human tooth. Positive.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Well, I guess I can't be positive. but it looked human to me. It looked like a molar. And I guess dogs have similar molars. So it's entirely possible. This was a dog molar, but this was like a deep rooted tooth-ass-looking tooth. Like a tooth that got extracted.
Starting point is 00:04:12 But a molar, like, right? With like the four little prongs coming out of the bottom. Yes. Like that. Like when you draw a comic, a cartoon of a tooth, that is the tooth you draw. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:25 It's almost got like it's got legs. And it's got big smile. nightly face because it's happy to have no plaque or whatever the cartoon is yeah so i found that in the yard and i was like and i was because the reason i found it i was out there cleaning up the dog poo you know because dogs poo and you got to clean it up so i did a bunch of that and uh in there in there not in the poo but in there just like laying there in the grass was a was a what i believed to be a human tooth and the reason that i don't think it was either of the dogs it because a rayner's teeth are too small, but I also went and checked both their mouths to see if they were missing anything,
Starting point is 00:04:59 and neither dog were missing any teeth. So I don't know why there's a human tooth in my backyard. It's not one of vans like Tooth Fairy said, okay, here's your buck and toss it in the yard. Too big. Too big for him, too big for Rainer, too big for, and he hasn't lost any teeth yet. He's still, what, I guess he doesn't start losing teeth till four. Whenever that happens. Right. Not for a little while.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. So he's got his chomper's for both. It's weird. Is there like a, I guess you couldn't tell me if there was a secret fight club in your backyard because of rule number one. Right. That rule says, even if I told you that, would I even be telling you the truth? Because I'm not allowed to tell you. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So I don't know. I don't have an explanation. It's sort of what the rule is. Yeah. That's kind of the rule. But I'm just going to throw it out there to the world. If y'all are listening to this and you're like, hey, I know what that is. is that's from whatever let me know they're not going to be able to tell you oh yeah that happens
Starting point is 00:05:58 it's uh lawn teeth they grow out of it it's something that uh to use to use scott's turf builder yeah that's what that comes from scott yeah scott's turf builder lawn teeth um maybe maybe my neighbor's weird they listen to this show so maybe they'll hear this maybe they did it you know um but the question and you even ask it in here should you have given it to somebody that my first thought would have been now it's just a tooth and you it's not like you can use one tooth to find to trace dental records or something if there's a right you know missing person under your sod oh my gosh think about that what if there's more or there's no more parts somewhere yeah do you have a do you have a metal detector i guess a metal detector wouldn't really do much i need a bone
Starting point is 00:06:46 detector brine a bone detector i think they offer those shirts at bachelorette party so I'll see if I can get you one. So I was thinking like, well, part, I will say it passed over my head that I should put this on a little bag and take it to the local authority. Because what if it is a piece? I mean, I don't know. But I was too freaked out. I went, ew, gross. And I threw it in the can.
Starting point is 00:07:10 There's part of me, there's part of me of the things that as soon as you left, I found this bone in my backyard or this tooth. I don't know if you guys want to do anything with it. Oh, thank you, sir. Okay, yes. We sure will thank you for your diligence. As soon as you walk out the door. chunk right in the trash comb. It's like the ones that go, right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 They'll sit and impersonate you for half an hour. Hey, would you guys like this tooth? I found out of my backyard. And then they'd throw it away. But it's just like they do when you, you know, someone steals your bike. Oh, yes, sir. We'll get right on that. We're going to find the guy.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Okay, got your phone. Thank you. All right. We'll keep an eye out for it. Thank you very much. Wad. Yeah. And look, if I was a true believer in the tooth fairy,
Starting point is 00:07:50 that thing would be under my pillow. But I'm not. Let's see what you can get. Yeah, I'm a tooth fairy. It's not mine, tooth fairy, but... I don't believe in that crap. All right, hey, look at this. We got an email from Tanner.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Tanner Goodman. Tanner Good Man. Tanner Good Man. Yep, he is a good man. He wrote scandalous and bewildered. That's us. Ooh, I'm bewildered. Yeah, I'm scandalous.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm bewitched, bothered, and bewildered. There you go. Who's the, what was the lady on bewitched called? What was her name? Elizabeth, well, the, the, uh, Samantha was the character. That's right, but she was Elizabeth Montgomery in, that's right, be witched. That's true. One division.
Starting point is 00:08:31 No, that's not it anymore. Uh, I really liked all those throwbacks. All right, anyways, uh, he says this. I would like to say that a statement you made on episode 265, that was yesterday, was wildly incorrect. Oh, my gosh. I love it when we get corrections on this show. Yeah, I do as well.
Starting point is 00:08:50 We like to be factual. and I'm talking while I'm pouring coffee, and I really shouldn't do that. But we like to be factual, period. Scott, over to you. You're a copy, coffee pour talker. Pressing the return key, Scott, over to you. Oh, yeah, that's how it works, I learned.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I learned that's how it works. All right. Now I will compute. Beep, bo, beep. Anyway, and you know what, to preface the rest of his email, I should make this clear. And I think people, a lot of people already know, if you know Tanner is one of the nicest, sweetest guys in our community.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Tanner is a gay man, okay? So that matters because what I'm about to say will make more sense, all right? I just wanted to make, I just want to put that out there. All right. He likes dudes. He's married to the dude. It does. No, no, he does.
Starting point is 00:09:37 But I don't think that, I don't think that that matters for this because of, we said that Tom Holland is cute. I guess I'm, I'm spilling the candy in the lobby. Let's get to the, let's get to the letter. Okay. Let's get to the, let's go to the tape. For the record, for the record yesterday. Can we also do that other thing I love in podcasts where people go?
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah, I'm sorry, Scott, this is Scott talking, and then always announce that it's you who's saying the next thing. Love that. Tony P. here. Yeah, I want to ask about the review that we just got. Nobody knows that reference now, but Tony B. Henderson, contestant America's top podcaster begins everything with Tony P. here. Yeah, they'll know. He'll know soon. Which I love.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Which I love. great. So that doesn't mean I'm voting for you. So keep it up. No, no, exactly. Yeah, it plays nothing. Yeah, I'm not giving you any. No one's getting the easy way this year.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Anyway, he says, you describe Tom Holland as cute. There is no way on God's Green Earth that you, that when you see Mr. Holland as Nathan Drake, you don't say, damn, he's fine as hell. That's his quote. It says, it's okay. I forgive you on this one
Starting point is 00:10:47 this time, just to remind you of how damn sexy he is. Here is a photo. And the photo he gave was that promo photo where he's Nathan Drake standing there looking all adventurey and stuff. I'm pointing it up because, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, it's like the one shot where he put it up on Instagram to tell everybody,
Starting point is 00:11:03 yep, we're filming this movie's happening. So on and so forth. Anyway. Yeah, okay. I'll give you that, Tanner. He's, he's damn handsome in that photo. And he doesn't look like a cute little Peter Parker. But you're not going to look at him and go.
Starting point is 00:11:21 go, damn, he's fine as hell. Damn, he's fine. No, I'm... You're never going to do that. No, but I wouldn't use those words normally. I'd say, oh, yeah, he's a handsome man. Yeah, he's a good-looking dude. But he does look like he's 17,
Starting point is 00:11:35 like playing dress-up, cosplay Nathan Trich. How old is it? Put your Spider-Man costume back on, Peter Parker. No one's going to buy that you're a video game character. They don't have video game characters and Spider-Man? What? So he's born in 96. He's 24, but he looks 17.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That's just his deal. He does. He does. 24-year-old, handsome young man. Yes. Taking the world by the storm. Anyway, we appreciate that. People in the chat room want to see the photo. Oh, I don't want to go find it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Oh, okay. Well, I can give you this one. You want this one? Hold on. I think I may have it faster than my thought. There you go. If you're getting up right there. I'd like to complain.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Discord. Boom. Boom, digity. Okay. I could actually just, I could actually just put that same link in the chat. Let me do that. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:21 do that. Then they can just see it. There you go. And then they can download it, enjoy it. I guess they're people on the time. Do whatever they need to deal with it. Here you go, YouTube.
Starting point is 00:12:29 This is it. That's the picture. And yeah, he's a good looking guy. Yeah. I've seen him with a shirt off. He could bench press me. I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So then who's, so then who's cute? You know, if we can't, if Tom Holland has graduated from Crute to Damme Fine, then who's our new cute? Is it still Harry's, Is Harry Stiles still cute? No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:53 He's starting to look weird. Because of his, because of his dumb hair. He's starting to look funny. I don't know. What is cute by today's standards? I mean, I'd have to be of the, Bieber's cute? No, Bieber's not cute.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Listen, he's doing the little porn stash thing, and he's actually looking, he's gone past, he's gone from being, oh, yeah, all right, he's a cute kid, to being, wow, he's kind of turned into a little bit of a creepy dude. Yeah, creepy-looking dude. Yeah, it freaks me out a little bit. That, that, the, uh, the porn stash is a little, uh, he's looking like Simon on that
Starting point is 00:13:30 season of locking dad with, uh, uh, uh, Negan's, uh, uh, Negan's group. My wife would tell you that, my wife would tell you that post Malone is cute. Because really with all the stuff all over his face? Yeah, because there's something cuddly and griny and sweet about him. Okay. All right. Because that's, because that's, because that's, because that's, you've got something to read. Yeah, I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We're also talking about cute, not, like, I don't think, I don't, she doesn't look at him and go, ooh, he's hot. She sees him as just go, oh, he's so cute. Post Malone, okay, see, now, there you go. Post Malone, so not handsome, but he's an older man. Well, he's, he's like same age, like 24 and 26. It's 25, yeah. Yeah, okay, all right. But he, but he's, he's the kind of, but she always says this.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's like, oh, if I knew him, he'd be eaten here every night, we'd feed him, we'd take care of him. I'd give him a haircut when he needs. needed one. She thinks of them as like a lost puppy kind type, which is so weird. Come here. It would she take a napkin, like rub it in her tongue and then try to wipe the stuff. Let's clean your face up. Yeah. Oh, this up here is just Sharpie, right? Let's just get that on. Did you see that book? Did you fall asleep at a frat party? Let me clean this up for you. Did you see that Pokemon announcement? He's doing some virtual concert. Pretty crazy. Yeah, so Pokemon Day, what is it, the 2020th? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 next week, yeah. I've bought my ticket, so it's the same day as the first day of BlissConline, right? Second day, 19th and 20th. Second day. Oh, okay, Friday, Saturday. All right. So I'm going to be, it's going to be just telling Tina, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:15:06 be regressing for the next day. I'm going to be watching BlizzCon. I'm going to be watching people talk about World Warcraft while I try and catch a thousand shiny Pikachu's, so you go. You go ahead and do whatever you need to do. Let me just tell.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Let me just say to our community without saying too much. Uh-huh. There's a reason you're going to want to watch BlissCon online over the next weekend. It's all free, so you don't need to avoid, you know, you don't have to pay for it. So just, just saying. Is there a reason? I'm not, I can't, I'm not saying. Can you go any further than that?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Nope. It's all I can say. I can get more out of you. I can get more out of you. Go for it. Is there someone on this show, on this show with you and me? that is going to be making an appearance as part of Blisscon line?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Brian Dunaway will be making... No. Boy, you're right. You could squeeze things out of me. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I have no idea. You didn't say no.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You didn't say no right away. And that makes me think, oh, no, it's something else, Brian. I'll say this or sure. Brian, 100% Brian Dunaway is. Or Brian Nibbitt is not on BlizzCon. He's not in Blisscon. I'm definitely not going to be doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:20 anything. No, no, unless they, unless they have a panel of people trying to catch a thousand shiny Pikachu's. In that case, yes, I'll be there. And, uh, but you see cartoon post Malone? He's kind of cool looking. It looks like a Fortnite guy. Kind of, uh, yeah, except they shame him because I think they were disturbing, actually. Yeah, he's a little bit, it's a little weird. And they get, and they kept all of his, uh, his, his tattoos on. They did, yeah, I like that. Um, so every, Every once in a while they have a vent Pokemon. Like around Christmas time, they'll have Pokemon or a Pikachu with a Santa hat or spring they'll have Baldassar wearing Cubone's skull or something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:05 For Post Malone, can we maybe get a charmander with tattoos on his face? Can we get that? Isn't there a sunflower, flora, flora? sun flora isn't there a Pokemon called sun flora something like that yeah so then you just do do his sunflower song with it right there you go is it called sunflower what is it it's uh
Starting point is 00:17:29 there is a sunflower looking Pokemon is it sunflower is it flora? I don't know see this is so that's so many generations ago I'm out of my Sunflora yeah there it is right there look at Sunflora oh yeah there she is there she is
Starting point is 00:17:47 To do the dust. In Sunflower, you're my sunflower. Actually, it wouldn't be too hard to actually add some post-malone tattoos to Sunflora's face. Yeah, he's got a big pie face. Like he does. Nothing wrong with a pie face. Oh, Sunflower does. Sunflower does, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I mean, he kind of does, too. But it's fine. You know, like, we have room on the face. We have room. There's room. There's room. We can draw whatever we want on there. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Buying. Buying. buying finally uh i need you to help me decipher this phone call again oh excellent all right we put on the c s i putting on the c s i uh button up shirt top top button on button tie loosened just enough yep yep yeah you're rolled up dark room with just a single light over the tape recorder yep all right get your black light out as well we may as well do that as well we're here all right sure ew what's this all over the table all right i get this uh this is weird yesterday before before i got up it was like between 5.30 and 6.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And I meant to play yesterday. I totally forgot. 24 in a row, prank calls. Oh, geez. Not I'm sorry. Not prank calls. Not prank calls. Spam calls. Wrong numbers? Spam calls.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Okay. And every one of them in the records said, spam risk, you know, whatever. Like, they do. And I didn't hear any of them because my phone's set to ignore all that stuff until 7 a.m. So I wouldn't even have heard the rings or whatever. It just ignores it. And so.
Starting point is 00:19:15 all of them came through, about six of those 25 left some form of voicemail, none of them speaking, and one of, and it was all just rustling sounds, but the one, one of them has the sound of somebody saying a thing. Okay. And I want you to help me understand it. It's only 1.9 seconds long. It's very short, but we're going to try to decipher this together. So chat room, be listening. Brian's ready. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I'm ready. This is what he said. Hey. You. Okay. Let me play that again. Here we go. Any ideas? Any ideas?
Starting point is 00:19:53 It sounds like he's got a, like a Popeye's spicy chicken sandwich that he's trying to swallow. Some of the chat says it translates to greetings from India because they all come from there for some reason. But that is not it. Let me try it one more time. I wouldn't you? It's almost like reverse language or reverse recording. I've got zero. Okay. So nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Nobody? Nobody in the chat? No. Play it backwards. They want it backwards? Oh, this is hard, though. I'm sorry. I didn't catch you.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Hold on. You're like your, uh, your echo thinks you're talking to her. Did you notice that? No, you're reminding me that I needed to call my, uh, Google. All right. we're now going to hear the file reversed live on the show uh let's go ahead and do that hold on my i'm sorry i'm not in the right place okay there we go all right here comes reverse of that's of that sound well i didn't help no i didn't help at all that didn't help at all
Starting point is 00:20:58 we really we really thought it would but no it didn't totally know i was hoping it would say something anything here it's if you speed it up though yeah oh weird it sounds like you saying Oh, now it's all becoming clear. That's right, I did call you, and I had just taken some clueludes, so that explains it. Well, okay, if that's sped up, let's slow it down. Okay, now here's what it says when it's slowed down. What? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Well, now I'm starting to think that guy just had the wrong number. Fantastic. All right. Well done, everybody. Today's hard work of finding out what that call said is over. We don't know is the bottom. We don't know. Yeah, and we don't care.
Starting point is 00:21:39 That's true. It doesn't give us enough, so I can't zoom and enhance into that one, I'm afraid. No, it's not going to work. But here's what does work. A little bit of this. I think science is cool. Science is cool. And joining us, as he does now on Thursdays, is Bobby Frankenberger, who's going to talk to us a little bit about more science.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Hi, Bobby, welcome. Hello, welcome. Yeah, Bobby. How's light? I guess I just welcomed us. You can't welcome us. What are you? Yeah, you're not trapped in here with us.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I'm in my show now. Are you doing a podcast as well? How does that go? I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me. That's how it goes. Yeah. I have a question for you guys real fast.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Go ahead. What? How likely, how many murders do you think go unsolved because someone found something in their backyard? And they were like, ew, gross. And threw it in the trap. I mean, it's a fair question. It's crossed my mind since I was like, oh, wait a minute. What if I just threw away like the most important evidence?
Starting point is 00:22:35 That number is exactly 17. 17 unsolved murders because somebody got grossed out by a tooth they found their backyard. So specific Brian, so specific. Here's a prime number too. I've done the legwork. I've done the research and stand behind it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah, all right. Well, here's my question. If I still feel that, let's say I felt really strongly that I had tossed some possible evidence into the trash. I could just say, hey, police people, check out this garbage can.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I hear there's a tooth in there. Go for it. And then go digging around and find it. Right. And then they say, oh, let's find out who this garbage can belongs to. Ah, Mr. Scott Johnson. I remember seeing his name on the news years ago related to another murder. I think I thought it was Peterson.
Starting point is 00:23:24 No, it was Johnson. It was definitely Johnson, not Peterson. You know, now that I think about it, I think I'm just going to let that one go. Just going to let that tooth go. And you know what? One day someone will be sifting through the landfill and go, a tooth. What the frick? And then they can worry about it then.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Okay? It's a good thing your obstruction of justice has not been recorded on the internet. Exactly. Well, we basically just told the police is, you can't handle the tooth. Yeah, you can't handle the tooth. Well done. Well done. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I did it again. Right before I am sci-fi, right before, I did it before him. Yeah, you did. I saw it. I can prove it. And also, a way to bring it down with a good finisher. That was good. that we're finishing with you. Thank you. Now we can move on to this science. All right. So I was digging around for, I'd like to look at stuff during the week. I have a couple of science feeds I follow. And something jumped out at me and I talked to Bobby about it. And we thought it might be interesting to talk about. So humans in the last year or so have gotten real used to this idea of being a little bit isolated. Right. And we don't love it. Like even if you're the most introverted person and love your alone time, you still, human beings still need the interaction of other human.
Starting point is 00:24:36 human beings. And it's the longer goes, the harder it is. And yes, we can sort of make up for it a little bit with Zoom calls and hanging out virtually. And, you know, Brian's got his weird neighbors he can hang out with because they're just as careful as they are. And things like that. You have these, you know, you have some opportunity within there. But no longer do you have the, hey, let's all 12 of us meet up with our favorite bar and hang out tonight or, or whatever. Like, those things are on hold. And turns out, we're not the only creatures under the sun. who have this problem and there was this study on nature.com
Starting point is 00:25:10 about giraffes specifically female giraffes they need each other man they can't just wander around on their own if you isolate one they end up dying like way earlier than all the other ones and I thought that was an interesting combination what do you make of not only our need
Starting point is 00:25:29 for companionship but animals as well so the social nature of animals is studied quite a lot and is also incredibly complicated. Like, the reasons why, how they do it and all that kind of stuff. The thing about the
Starting point is 00:25:48 giraffes was very narrow and it's specifically about female giraffes, first of all. You said that. And that if they when they're spending time with other giraffes, they have a higher chance of survival than isolated ones. And it seems
Starting point is 00:26:04 to be from the study that because of the being around other giraffes increases the likelihood that they will be able to find food and forage and stuff like that. Right. But it should be noted that in the study they did note that there are plenty of giraffes that spend time by themselves. First of all, male giraffes are more known to be isolated than females. So that happens. but some female giraffes were observed being by themselves whenever they but they would hang out around livestock farms
Starting point is 00:26:44 oh weird like hanging out with cows and stuff or just yeah just livestock in general and they think it's because of the the prevalence of like grasses and grazing opportunities And those drafts, even though they were isolated, they didn't have a decreased likelihood of survival. And that evidence leads them to think even more that the reason that being in a group is because it helps increase the foraging for food. Because the isolated ones that were surviving were near easy access to food. Oh, I see. Okay, so I have to assume that our need for communion with each other isn't all that different because our need to survive is similar evolutionarily speaking, right?
Starting point is 00:27:40 Maybe not so much today. Yeah, if you see a big crowd, you know that there's probably food there. Right. But it's not like if me and Brian wanted to go get a hamburger, we could do that now. And that's like a simplified, ridiculous modern version of what used to be, I counted on Brian on gathering the berries while I went out and killed the goat and then together we had enough to make it through the winter. You know what I mean? Like that would have been a survival need. Now it's more of the social part stayed and we're not going to die if we don't go to Burger King
Starting point is 00:28:10 today. But isn't that kind of our modern version of it? We just evolved sort of past the need for the day-to-day scraping for what little we can get. Certainly that's probably the pressure. I mean, evolution in general is driven by, what they call it, fitness pressures in evolutionary science. And fitness just means how likely are you to survive and pass your genes on to the next, right? So survival, of course, is where it all comes from. But human socialization is far more complicated. First of all, studying socialization in animals is really interesting because of the fact that it's actually really kind of rare. in we we know of a lot of animals that socialize because those are the there's a term they call it but they're they're the they're the animals we like they're the cute ones that hang out together and you see them more because they gather in groups um but uh but socializing in animals is more rare than i think we realize um and so understanding why the animals that do congregate why they do it helps us understand just in general like evolution
Starting point is 00:29:23 pressures. Sure. For it. Which is interesting because now, it's not like you have too many giraffes that are like, you know, I mean, obviously there are drafts in the wild. At least I hope there are. You don't see, but you don't see giraffes, at least I don't think so, in places where they could just go hang out with cows. Right. You'll see a lot of cows on the Serengeti or the Savannah. I'm trying to remember where I've, trying to remember where I've hung out with giraffes before. At the zoo. Yeah. At the zoo. Yeah. And we called them Geregris. I'm sorry to tell you, but it's gear at. Just kidding. That's not true. We're not going to get into our GIF fight ever again on the show.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Not that we had one. But anyway, the point is, yeah, that's my only exposure to him, right? But I guess if you went on some African safari, you bump into giraffes. And now that I think about it, I've never seen, oh, this is interesting. I've never seen a nature documentary, my in person at a zoo, or any other context, have I ever seen a giraffe by itself? they're always knocking around with more than one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 With other giraffes. With other giraffes. Right. I don't mean, hey, there's one hanging out with a polar bear. Weird. Not like that.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Interesting. Swimming with the whales. Interesting about giraffes, the groups that they tend to congregate in are often matrilineally related, which means they're often just groups of people that all come from the same mother, like line of.
Starting point is 00:30:50 ancestry from through mothers. Oh, really? I'm not sure why that is. It probably has to do with, with rearing of children and stuff. And maybe the males end up leaving to go spread their giraffe seed. Oh, God. Seriously. Good job there.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Those guys are always moving their seed around, those bastards. Yeah. So the reason why, really interesting, I was looking into this preparing for us to talk. And I found something really interesting about the fact. that, you know, socialization in animals are, is rare, and it hasn't involved that often. And the, the analysis of that actually makes it make a lot of sense. If you think about it, members of the same species are actually the closest competitors for resources.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So that's one of the reasons why you don't see it very often. They're competing for food and mating and shelter and all that kind of stuff. So these are limited resources in nature, so it makes sense for you not to all be in the same place because then you would have to compete with each other, because you all all have the same demands compared to, like, other species. Sure. Also, groups of animals are easier to spot for predators to spot, so it makes sense to stay separated. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, but, you know, giraffes don't maintain that low a profile on their own. Right. Well, that's fair. They're in the middle of, like, a desert, and they're 20 feet tall. Exactly, yeah. That's awesome. I like the I like a giraffe is what I'm getting at that's that's my main takeaway here the the last bit though with with humans we were talking about human the human connection right
Starting point is 00:32:29 one of the we have a we have a unique combination I don't want to say unique you need unique implies that literally we're the only ones but I think there might be a small handful of species that share all this but very rare combination of three social features which is we socially cooperate we socially cooperate we coordinate and we have division of labor and all three of those things makes us very a very rare combination of and that probably all of them feed into each other which causes the very complex social structures that we have sure well be like a giraffe and have friends is what we're saying that's the bottom list unless it's a Pokemon day in which case be isolated
Starting point is 00:33:13 alone and watch BlizzConline and play Pokemon. There you go. But do it by a farm, a livestock farm. There you go, yes. You'll never go without. Speaking of not going without, more people can get more science information.
Starting point is 00:33:25 If they just listen to your podcast, tell people where they can find it. It's called all around science. We talk all about science stuff all the time. It's me and my co-host, Mora, and we just kind of generally geek out about science stuff. a couple episodes episode 22 i think it was a week or two ago we did a cool topic that people here might listen to speaking of therapy Thursday uh obviously people like hearing about psychology stuff
Starting point is 00:33:56 because they love listening to wendy um but uh we did uh an episode on where we talked about conspiracy theories and you guys have talked about that before and we tackled it from a slightly different angle which is not where do conspiracy theories originate from but if there's so we ask the question if there's so much evidence out there that refutes conspiracy theories why do people still believe in them
Starting point is 00:34:18 and so we we dug into that a bit I was at breakfast last Friday morning I texted Scott about this but I didn't talk about it on the show who was talking about vaccines and masks and he was anti the latter
Starting point is 00:34:35 and thought that there was some big government cover up with Biden losing 20 million vaccines or something. And it says, you know, some people tell me it's a conspiracy theory. But my opinion is, if it's a conspiracy, it's not a theory. I forgot how that was worded. Oh, I put it out of my mind. It's so bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:57 That's funny. It's so bad. All right. Well, and the last thing I did want to say before I go, because I know the Johnson phone call ending is going to. comes soon. Oh, it comes fast, dude. You never know. Is next week, a week from today, Thursday, February 18th is, and I'll mention it again when I'm on next week, but I wanted the podcast listeners to have an opportunity to hear this. At 1 p.m. Eastern, right after this stream, we're going to be having a live stream on our
Starting point is 00:35:25 Facebook page, all around science, where we're going to be recording a live episode that week, but it's going to be to watch the Perseverance Rover land on Mars. Cool. That's cool. Yeah, we're going to watch it as it happens and cross our fingers and hope that nothing goes wrong. I didn't know they'd send another one up there. That's cool. Yep, it's on its way.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It's almost there. So are there any currently still active rovers on Mars or have all the other ones? Not one of them was still sending stuff back, no? There is one that's still sending it stuff back. I can't remember what it's called. Tune in next week to find out. That'll be great. I'm sure there'll be no controversies about how this is all filming.
Starting point is 00:36:06 in a back lot in Hollywood. All right. Thanks a lot. We'll see you later. He's right. I am fast. I kick him out of here real quick. Curiosity.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's right. The curiosity to Rover. Okay. That one's still going, I found some rocks. And water. Water. Water.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Can't water? Daegoba system. That's good stuff. All right. Thank you very much. Let's do this real quick. A quick news brief brought to you by. Well, that's right, Scott.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Coverville today, celebrating the birthdays of Gene Pitney and Feist. Gene Pitney would have been 80 years old, I believe. Well, here's a funny thing. My note said 1941. This thing says 1940. So maybe he would have been 89 or. Or 79. We'll find out there.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Or 81, I guess it would be. One extra year. But if you're, you know, the song's Town Without Pity. It's such a would put Town Without Pity Can Do. Nope. Hello, Mary Lou by Rick Nelson. He's a rebel by the crystals. The man who shot Liberty Valens.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Anyway, classic old singer. And you'll hear new performers like Fountains of Wayne. and Queen covering Jean Pitney on today's show. Also celebrating the music of Feist, who turns, I think 40 that I don't have in front of me. But she's awesome. And I don't know if that's her. I guess that's her last name, Leslie Feist. And she really is.
Starting point is 00:37:54 She really is turning 45. I did not get that one wrong. She is super interesting person. She is. She really needs to just cut those bangs, Feist. Come on. Can you see? Those are way down there.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I mean, even No, she's great. Even Zooie de Chanel is like, dude, cut your freaking bangs. What are you doing? That's right. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:13 on some very good. She's turning one, two, three, 45. Yep, there you go. Tell me that you love me. Very good.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I like Feist. Yeah, Fice is good. All right, check that out later. Today. One p.m. Oh, sorry, 1 p.m. Mountain time at Twitch.
Starting point is 00:38:28 At twitch.tv slash coverville. That's the important stuff. That's the thing you need. Sure. There's this story I meant to do yesterday because it was in line with our Jamaican flag problem. Oh, really? Okay. I'm going to go ahead and read it today.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Jamaica faces a marijuana shortage as the farmers struggle, which seems weird, given all the availability of new pot up here in the states, there's a chance to really go for it. But maybe that's just for companies in the states. I don't know how that works. Well, what's making the farmers struggle? I guess we're going to find out. We sure are.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Heavy rains, followed by an extended drought, an increase in local consumption and a drop in the number of marijuana farmers has caused a shortage in the island famed for its largely illegal market that experts say is the worst they've ever seen. Quote, it's a cultural embarrassment, says Tristan Thompson. It probably said, it's a cultural embarrassment, man. It's a cultural embarrassment. Very good. That was better than mine. Yeah, whatever. How you doing, ma.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I just, everything I know about Jamaican. since I learned from World Warcraft. So what are you going to do? Jamaica, which foreigners have long associated with pot, reggae and Rastafarians, authorized a regulated medical marijuana industry and decriminalized small amounts of weed in 2015. People caught with two ounces or 56 grams or less of cannabis
Starting point is 00:39:53 are supposed to pay a small fine and face no arrest or criminal record. The island also allows individuals to cultivate up to five plants. And Rastafarians are legally allowed to smoke ganja for sacramental purposes. You know, like spiritually, whatever BS you want to make up, you could go, listen, man, I... It's my religious right.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, I belong to the church of the smoking of the potsee. You just smoke the pot. So one of the problems, I mean, obviously the weather problems are big, but the fact that they're smoking, they're getting high on their own supply is a little bit of a problem. That's the main problem, is they're over smoking it locally, partly because of these lessening restrictions. Says worst thing,
Starting point is 00:40:37 the problem was strict COVID-19 measures. They have a 6 p.m. curfew or they did for a long time that was really messing with people. Farmers couldn't tend to their fields at night, as is routine. Why couldn't you do that by yourself, though? I mean, couldn't you, why would it be a problem to go out and might work? I don't know. That seems weird.
Starting point is 00:40:56 On your own field. I don't know. That it seems odd. Yeah. I mean, they're calling it a COVID-19 measure. 6 p.m. curfew, is it just, if you're not living at your farm, then you're just not allowed to drive to your farm after 6 p.m. because of COVID, like, we don't want anybody out and about. That might be it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 They're also having trouble getting water because of the drought and everything. So I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to Jamaica and you're making the trip, just know it's going to be a little rough going for you on the pot side. Thanks. Having never tried pot or the closest I ever got was sort of a contact high at a Howard Jones concert. No, things can only get better. Guy next to me was smoking pot like a like a smoke stack and just kept going and going and going. and I did feel a little funny by the end of the night. Well, listen, you were at a concert.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He was there. You were there. No one is to blame. Yeah, no one is to blame. No one ever, ever, is ever to blame or just this one time? Well, the song title is no one is to blame. But yeah, the lyric adds the word ever. All right, law of threes.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You got to do a third one. Give me another one. Well, Scott, you could try to live your life in one day, but don't go speed your time away. There you go. Well done. Thank you. lot of threes complete lot of threes
Starting point is 00:42:16 we hit we hit bowser in the head three times we can move on to the next castle oh speaking of which that Mario the the Wii u Super Mario 3D land or 3D world whatever was called the Wii you game that was so good and no one plague is in have a Wii you is coming out Friday on the switch I'm so excited
Starting point is 00:42:35 yeah I'm looking forward to that too I'm still still loving Phoenix Rising Immortals Phoenix rising. Here's my only problem with it. Climbing the side of a rock thing and it's like, oh, okay, I can, I've got enough stamina. I can make it to that flat surface and re-
Starting point is 00:42:53 rebuild my stamina. Climb, okay, why am I not? Yeah, just jump. Just climb right up onto the thing. Just get up on the, on the top of that platform. Oh, no, my stamina is out. Yeah. Do you still do your wings? Oh, no, does the wings take a little stamina, too?
Starting point is 00:43:13 stick stamina as well. So I pop the wings and I just slowly fall to my death. Still, maybe not terminal velocity, but pretty didn't close to terminal velocity. That game's getting loadouts in a patch today. Oh, really? I wonder if the
Starting point is 00:43:29 switch version is. It is. Everything's getting it. All of it is? Okay. Can't find the note on it. But there's some... What are loadouts? Like you'll be able to, instead of going in and piecemealing all the, like, the stuff you want to look like or the gear. you want to have, you can do it in chunks.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Kind of like, think of it as like a transmog, except it's actual functional stuff too, not just, not visual, not just visual. Gotcha. Oh, that's cool. There it is right there. It's customizable loadouts. I've never, you know, in all the MMO life that I've had, I've never. You've never transmogged?
Starting point is 00:44:02 No, no, no, I've transmogged. Oh, okay. I will say, though, I don't really care about transmaging that much. Really? It is one of my favorite things in that game right now. Is it? Yeah. Because I can't stand looking like a clunging.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It's like these pants don't match this shirt, this weapon looks different than the other one. I hate all that. Yeah, in wow, in this game, whatever, give me the gear. I don't care if they match. I don't care what I look like. Just go. Do I look like I care
Starting point is 00:44:29 how I dress? I don't transmog in real life. Why would I do it in a video game? I guess I I mean, well, Transmog hasn't been gone around for 10 years. Grinch Wildfire. It's only been around for like the last. I want to say that was maybe 2015, 2016. Anyway, it is
Starting point is 00:44:51 a little bit of dress up, but I don't know if I've come to like it. I think Wow's version of it's really cool and I like doing sets and switching around and stuff like that. You know, I guess if I could go back to, but again, I never really look at what I'm wearing in the game. I guess I see the back of my buddy and I'm, you know, this one. I can, I always see the back of my body when it's laying on the floor face down. Yeah. Now, wouldn't you rather look at yourself face down and see yourself in a coordinated, beautiful outfit?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Right. I will say, I really did like the rogue geist gear set from Rath of the Litch King. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. The single yellow eye that had smoke coming out of it. Yeah. That was kind of cool. So you can go get that whole set. Either if you don't have it already, you may already have all the parts.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And if you have all the parts, you just go make a transmog set, name it, whatever. Geist. to name it Willie Geist. Yeah, just call it Geist. And boom, you're a 40-year-old woman singing. It's perfect. Oh, wait, that's Feist. Are we getting any other one else are we getting?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Is there any other good things brought out by this? We don't know yet. There's stuff coming. So are you saying, I'm putting a link in our chat. So are you saying that that set looks like, oh, is it not, it's not pulling up the graphic? Let me put it on Discord. I showed up for you. Oh, you are.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Okay. Are you saying that that gear set looks like. like a clown? I'm saying, no, no. See, I like that gear set. That gear set, fine, because that's them coordinating. What I'm talking about is, like, in World Warcraft, when you're, like, wearing a chess piece and pants and totally different
Starting point is 00:46:25 colored legs, and then you, let's see, you're a dual weaponer, like, rogues are, and, like, my demon hunter, like having a sword in one hand and a freaking ugly scythe or whatever in the other hand, I love to just, like, coordinate all that stuff. And anything you've ever collected, all those appearances are in your transmont. library. So you just go and go, all right, I want both swords to look like this glowy blue one. Boop. I want this helmet. I want this shoulder pad. I want whatever. And you can color coordinate, even if they're not sets. You can just do whatever you want from all the stuff you've ever had in the game. And there's pages of that stuff. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 If you haven't messed with it, you should check it out. All right. All right. Also, Phoenix Rising is a fantastic video game. It really is. I'm having so much fun with it. It's really good. I'm realizing that I jumped too far ahead on one of the quests. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm getting the crap beat out of me. Let me go do some side Quest, get some better gear and improve before I move any further in the main storyline. Improve before you move. That's what I say. Improve.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Don't move. Improve. Yeah, move, then improve. No, improve then move. No, improve then move. Now, improve next on HGTV. Indeed. That guy and his ladywife.
Starting point is 00:47:28 All right. Hey, check it out. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister, Wendy, will be here. We're going to talk about all of our homework, which was we were meant to watch Hulus, although you could rent it in other places if you don't have Hulu in and of itself, which Brian and I both watched last night, and I get it why she wanted us to do this, and I'm really excited to see what she wants to talk about around it. Just know that we will talk about stuff in it
Starting point is 00:47:51 that I guess you could call spoilers, even though it's basically just a filming of a stage performance. I don't know, though. I mean, I feel like the less you know going into watching it, the better, at least the better, in my opinion, the better. Totally agree. Totally agree. So that's what I'm saying. If you guys don't want to hear any of that, probably skip Wendy's thing, save her for later. But man, I was legitimately floored by that thing. So good, yeah. Anyway, we're going to do all that in a second before that, though.
Starting point is 00:48:20 She just wants to know how he kept all the kings together. That's all she's going to be asking us, right? That's all and that's it. However, all those kings, not all mixed up in your deck, and then how did all the other scenes work out? Taper deck. Yeah, taper deck. Brian, please play a song.
Starting point is 00:48:32 What song do we have to play? Yes. Let's talk about the middle kids, shall we? Sure. They're releasing a brand new song called Cellophane Brain. Their brand new album is called Today We're the Greatest. It comes out March 19th. This is some great indie rock out of, I like saying where these people are from.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Sure, why not? But if they don't put it in the first paragraph, then I don't know, because that's all I read. Yeah. Anyway, these guys are really, really good. It's Hannah Joy on lead vocals. and she's also a singer, the singer-songwriter. She's great. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Middle kids from their brand new album called Today We're the Greatest. Here is Cellophane Brain. running wild looking up star signs eating apples on the train i know you say it's all right as you keep it inside hey when did you realize there's no guy with the first prize waiting at the end cellophane you shake you never change You're strange up in your brain Are you afraid Stop and find a reason
Starting point is 00:50:16 Why you can't get away from it Moving up the coastline, Making deals, selling houses, of the good life compliance teams awake routines nothing more sad than a man who cries
Starting point is 00:50:46 in his car in the driveway blue helium light blinking again so refined you shake can never change You're strange Up in your brain
Starting point is 00:51:11 Are you afraid Stop and find The reason why you can't get away From me So it's faint You shake You never change So it's fair
Starting point is 00:51:32 Same You're strange Up in your brain Are you afraid To stop and find The reason why you're taking you away from me You think you're a black umbrella Holding off the rain
Starting point is 00:51:55 I think you're a silk white kite Of course again You think you're a black umbrella Holding off course again. I think you're a silk white kite, and of course again. Say the fate, you shake, you never change. Say the faith, you're strange, up in your brain, are you afraid, are you afraid, stop and find me, why you can't get away. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Remember being a kid? Remember eating sugar cereal? Like it was no big deal. Well, those days are gone. Holy crap. I've been trying to get that on carbs, sugar, unhealthy food in general, and realize basically I can't eat that stuff anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Been doing protein shakes, powder, that kind of stuff. all right. Oh, sort of way to start your day, but, man, here's what I'd rather do. Magic Spoon. Yeah, that's right. Big bowl of Magic Spoon cereal. They've released a brand new variety pack now featuring peanut butter flavor. They released peanut butter as a limited edition flavor in 2020, and it sold out three times. So, peanut butter is back. Peanut Butter's gotten so much love, they decided to keep it, make it permanent, add it to the best sellers variety pack, which also includes frosted, fruity, and cocoa. Zero
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Starting point is 00:54:29 Remember, get your next delicious bowl of guilt-free cereal at magic spoon.com slash TMS. and use the code TMS to save $5. Thank you, MagicSpoon, for supporting this show. Hi, I'm Jesse Ventura. Use minty mouth toothpaste. Halliburton staged the BP oil spill. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, biv, biv, those bastards.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Those bastards are turning back. This is the morning stream. All right, we have a turn. For those wondering if that's really Jesse Ventura, it's not. It's Will Sassau doing Jesse Ventura on social media. Will Sassos is great. He cracks me up. Just saw him in that fantastic, well, in that really good, I don't say fantastic.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Just saw him in that really good, irresistible movie with Steve Crowell. I need to watch that. I wrote that down. That seemed like one I'd like. I think you would like it I think I bet a lot of the reviews are coming from the fact that it might be a little more
Starting point is 00:55:40 I mean, Steve Currell's the good guy and he's a Democrat Oh, is it a little pointed in the Maybe a little bit, yeah, maybe I don't know, it's subtle Subtle is never And the ending and you won't see the ending coming I will say no matter what
Starting point is 00:55:55 You can see the ending coming. Hey! Hey, it's Wendy Talk about it before I'm here? No, not that different thing. He was talking about a different thing. Yeah, we're not talking about this. In fact, I told the chat, if any of them have not seen it and they don't want to hear, yeah, you should go away just because it's a so worth, like, you know me, I'm sort of like, don't care that much about spoilers. And sometimes I don't slip on the show.
Starting point is 00:56:15 But even when someone tells me one, I'm like, eh, it's fine. I'm still, I'm still watching it, whatever. Yeah, this is not one. This is not one, man. This is one I want to protect you guys from until you see it. And then I want you to, but I want you to see it so bad. I know. That was my first reaction.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I thought of thousands of people. I'm like, I need them to see it. I need that person to see it. I need everyone in the world to see it. So thank you for obliging me. Yes. So we're going to talk about that after this. It's my sister Wendy, everybody.
Starting point is 00:56:46 She comes on Thursdays, does therapy Thursday. She is an actual therapist. Helps real people all the time with real problems and does it for free for us on Thursdays, which is fantastic. Now, Wendy said earlier in the week to me, hey, you and Brian and the audience, your homework is this. Watch in and of itself on Hulu or wherever you can get it. And in Canada, you had to rent it.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And there's a few other places where it wasn't streaming. Right, Canada. Yeah. And maybe, I don't know, give me more than 48, eight hours notice next time, Wendy, could you? That's Scott's fault. I just, no, wait, when did you tell me? You told me on Wednesday, right? Didn't you tell me Wednesday?
Starting point is 00:57:21 That was, I think that's what you told me. You told me Tuesday. So it had to be at least Tuesday. Oh, well, yeah, that sounds right. I think Wendy told me the day I told you. So that's not my fault. But anyway, the point is, uh, there's no way that's true. I'm looking it up. Keep talking.
Starting point is 00:57:35 This is, oh my God, you two are cut from the same court. Hold on. We really are. We really are. There's no question. You think of those little random farts. I told you Saturday. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Really? I could have watched it over the weekend and not giving up trivia last night. Oh, look at that. I said, okay, I lied it. It was Monday. Okay, Monday. See, that's not so bad. It also sounds like me, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah, it does. All right. Everything about this was Johnson is. I didn't need to do trivia, trivia last night anyway. It's totally fine. Good deal. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So here's the deal. You said watch it and I was like, oh, I meant to anyway. Someone said it was good and I didn't know much about it. The best I could tell from looking at previews was, oh, it's some kind of stage thing. And I noticed Frank Oz directed it, which I didn't, that threw me off a little bit, like Frank Oz directing. That's weird. And Stephen Colbert. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah, produced by Stephen Colbert and his wife. And his wife. Yeah. We saw all that in the credit. But anyway, I didn't really know what to expect. And then when I settled in, I went, oh, it's one of these. Okay, I like these. These are, these are interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:40 It reminds me a Schwitz thing a little bit. It's a magic show with some twists and some other stuff. But man, it's not that. It is that, but it's so much more than that. And in fact, the magic that he uses, all of the acts, all of the parts of the performance that are based on tricks, either with the cards or, knowing whose name is tied to whatever at the end or the thing with the all that stuff the letter oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:59:09 the letter all of it are their tricks and they're tricks you've seen before or things like it where you're like oh wow and then the magician moves on to his next trick they're used in this thing as a conduit to i don't even know what to call this wendy they're they're the sugar that helps the medicine go down, maybe? Something. Like the gold brick thing? I don't even know where to start. Like, where do you want to start with this?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Because I don't even know where I was going to start. Well, let's start with what he did. I mean, so again, if you haven't seen it, go see it. Stop listening because we're ruining it right now. Yeah, we should assume people have seen it from here. If they're listening, they've seen it. So we should talk about it as if we have all seen it. We don't have to explain to them what it was.
Starting point is 00:59:53 We can now just discuss it as a group, even though the audience is silent, but as if they've seen it. So that's how we should do this, I think. Okay. So let's start with the, so in essence, he used his own life as the sort of source of all of his material, right? The things he's been through his childhood. I mean, it was his therapy, really, right? Like, I watched it and I didn't think about it until afterwards, but this is somebody's,
Starting point is 01:00:27 processing through developmentally crucial moments of their life and, you know, like even the wolf and the dog philosophy and the light, you know, if you're blinded by the light, you can't see anything, but if you turn your back on the light, everything's clear. Like, so much from his, it's from his own inner world, right? So that's, I think, what made it so authentic. I mean, that was 500 showings or something. It was over two years or something. Yeah, a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:58 But to pull off that depth and that, like, emotional connection to what he was doing, I don't think you can do that if it isn't your real stuff. Or he's just one heck of an actor. I don't know. But it was, it just was so moving, right, as he's going through all of his various things that are him. So let's start with this. At the beginning, right, with the, oh, my gosh, now the word is the whatever native. The roulette.
Starting point is 01:01:25 The rouletteista. No, the rouletteista. Yeah, rouletteista. Rulatista. That's it, the Rulatista. So that idea, like, it was so compelling that he is in this bar and chilly or something, and this guy just tells him who he is, right? And he's some young kid who, you know, 20-something thinking he's all that and has spent
Starting point is 01:01:47 a lifetime. I don't know if he read much about him, but he really was, like, a phenom card shark, 13, 15, 16-year-old. I believe it, by the way, he was handling the Shuffling. Yeah. So he really was all the things he's saying, right? Anyway, so here he is probably a hotshot, you know, thinking he knows everything.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And this guy comes and tells him this story. And so it starts really quickly with this idea of his identity, right? So here's your identity. You're the Rulatista. And you're like, what? And that story is nuts about this guy putting bullets in a gun and shit. trying to, you know, not killing himself every single time and making all this money
Starting point is 01:02:28 is just like, it's so gripping a way to start it. But it's identity. Very first and foremost is identity. And so, and then as we go along, his identity and relationship to his mom's sexual identity and the community's response to her, her being a lesbian and what that means for him and not, you know, his identity.
Starting point is 01:02:52 it was just so moving right so those two and then we keep going i don't want to talk the whole time so what do you guys let me ask you this about let me talk to you about that brick for a second um the way the way he acknowledged or stress the point that the brick is just a brick and it was only ever a brick like it's still just a brick it's painted gold but that's all that's all it's just a gold brick. And even though his association with the brick is massive, right? Like it's, it's, it's this massive trauma. It's this point of violent, um, a confrontation with a community that does not accept your mother for whatever reason. And therefore you, right? Uh, it's, it's that horrible, it's a horrible object for him. And for now for that audience, as he pointed out,
Starting point is 01:03:52 he's ruined the brick for everybody like the brick is now not just a brick all they'll be able to think of when they see that brick is this thing and associated with that but then he ends that whole sequence with other than a really amazing piece of magic he he ends it with basically saying
Starting point is 01:04:10 it is just a brick like it is just a brick it's the other stuff it's the things behind the brick and everything else we have to worry about but the bricks become the symbol and immediate my head when I'm sitting there on the couch watching this with Kim, by the way. We watched this.
Starting point is 01:04:23 We did the whole thing with like no distractions, both phones away, turn everything off. Yeah, phones off, iPads off. Good job, everybody. First time ever. Yeah, first time ever. Yeah, no argument. First time in a long time for me. But anyway, so that immediately my brain went, oh, this is like the associations I have
Starting point is 01:04:44 with the breathing apparatus that my dad was on after his heart attack when I saw him in the hospital for the first time. because I walked in there and I was shocked to see this thing in his nose and I've never been able to get rid of it and that is just a thing for your nose and that's all it is but in my mind I have this whole construct around it of shock and trauma and whatever I have other things like I can't see people in a headband like a tight headband without immediately thinking about Carter strapped to that board after that accident when she was seven that almost broke her neck and almost killed her. And
Starting point is 01:05:22 walking into the hospital and seeing her strap to that board because they want to move her and seeing her neck all bulged out to one side, a little seven-year-old kid like that. Like that, that is a permanent thing. And what I realized after, while watching this was, he has figured out a
Starting point is 01:05:38 way through 500 episodes of this on stage or whatever he's been able to do of taking this symbol, this object, and figuring all the stuff up all the stuff around it figuring it all out and basically banishing that rock or banishing that and d uh taking away its power yeah which is and giving it a whole new power which
Starting point is 01:06:03 is oh my gosh it really is at the corner of fifth and whatever yeah like and that was the only magic trick i know how he did right really yeah it's the only one i'm not a magic person like i don't pay attention i take it back i don't know how you know how the brick ended up on those corners yeah that one that that that seems that can't be hard that can't be hard but making it disappear right exactly but making it disappear the only one I got how did they do that brick disappearing off the table oh no no I don't get that one yeah like that was one that I couldn't wrap my head around oh yeah I couldn't wrap my head around any of them all of them freaked me out and the stuff toward the end I've been racking my brain all night I'm like wait a minute okay so he knew the way he picked somebody out of the audience
Starting point is 01:06:47 and came up and said here read this open pick a letter anyone you want to and then open it and let's see. I don't know how that was done. I have a theory on that one. We can talk about it. And here's the thing. I think at the bottom, like the core of this,
Starting point is 01:06:58 this guy's a genius. Right? You don't, that whole saying everybody's identity at the end is sheer brain power. I mean, there's a way to do it, but that is a lot of bodies to remember.
Starting point is 01:07:12 That's not a magic trick. I think that is a talent. That is a genius. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And, okay, we'll get back to that in a second.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Okay, so the brick. So go back to my identity concept here too. Like so much can of the violence or bigotry or otherness or damage that's done can be so wrapped up in your identity. And here he says this brick is just a brick, right? And like he's able to not have it. I mean, all of that is so powerful, right? But again, we go from, okay, was that the first one?
Starting point is 01:07:45 Was the brick the first one, right? After the rule atista? Hold on. No, the, um, it was cards and stuff first, right? The card stuff, uh, you know, the kings and the aces and, and, uh, that was crazy. Yeah, that was crazy. I have a theory is on that one too.
Starting point is 01:08:02 You have theories on that too? I thought I did two until, I had, I thought I did two until he was like three, fours done with that. And I went, uh, my theory's wrong. I don't know how he just did that because for a while there, I was like, oh, that deck is full of kings or aces or whatever. I don't know. It's a card counter.
Starting point is 01:08:19 The first thing, the first thing was getting the toy or the folded up origami boat into the bottle. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Oh, right. Right. Slide a hand. Slide a hand stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:31 That was cute. All right. Good. I don't, was that, yeah, maybe my identity thing that falls apart on that one because I can't remember that the boat being. But the thing. The thing I liked about this, that people even who go live don't get this experience. I'm sure that live experience is really something special. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 But what I really liked about it was. the animated interstitial is really cool. The wolf and the dog bit with the poker guy and meeting the devil and all that. I love that. That was so cool. Just from an artistic standpoint. But also their ability to say,
Starting point is 01:09:02 you know, only one, in that one episode, just the one lady came up for the letter. But they, because they filmed so many of these, they could do this rapid fire thing. And they did that a lot with different sequences. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Including when he would hold his finger to his head and all that other stuff. I really liked that because it showed And it shows all, you know, like there's repetition to this, but it also just broadened all that stuff out and got to see all this different human emotion. But when he's going through that audience, what you didn't tell me, Wendy,
Starting point is 01:09:31 I thought it was just going to be blown away by a lot of this stuff, and I was up to that point. But you didn't tell me that this thing was going to wreck me because both Kim and I are on the couch sobbing like children. Yeah. Raise your hand if you were sobbing at the end.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Everyone, we might be a cold. cold, cold, hearted, no, no, really, okay, because this gets back to this idea, right? So he is so, I mean, first of all, to be in that zone and that authentically vulnerable and you and yet be performing, I mean, that is something else, right? But I do have a client who's seen Sought twice live and hasn't seen the movie version, and it's just astounding. Now, I mean, the intimacy probably, right, of just the one. And being in the room, of course, that we can't ever all go in a room anymore. So it's even more incredible. But that idea that like it's those people are, you're hearing each other, each other's
Starting point is 01:10:32 identity or you're, it's fascinating. Because what he did, again, throughout the thing, he's, he's revealing enough of himself and his conflicts as well as his resolutions, as well as as sort of teaching us as we go. about just, but it's his story, it's amazing, right? And then when he gets to that part, it's like we're all buttered up to like be so open to really seeing somebody, right? At least that's my sense of like, I rarely, I mean, comedians are a great example of the opposite of this where they reveal bits of them and we're laughing.
Starting point is 01:11:13 But if we just peel back two inches, there's like a sobbing child in there, right? Right. Right. So the performative element is like, I'm going to reveal me, but it's the funny version that I can tolerate you seeing. Yeah. And what he did was like, take all that away. And we got to see him. So we're primed already to sort of see the humanity in somebody because he just did it for us. He showed us in its complexity. It's not I'm good, bad. This or that, right? And so then when he goes through the audience and does that, like the only time I laughed, besides the parts I think they wanted to be funny, because there were funny parts, right? Like he said a couple funny things was when this is so bad and says everything about me. Anyway, the woman who had on like, you know, like hippie clothing and like this, lots of beads and her hair was up and like a scarf or whatever. And he got to her and he said, a mystic.
Starting point is 01:12:13 and then I laughed really loud because I was like that doesn't take magic I told I said to Tina the same thing I said gimme yeah that was a gimmie but like where where it got me okay so you know suddenly Bill Gates being there was weird I didn't mean that was annoying I wish we could take that out I actually don't think it was annoying at all I think what that says is I here's why I like that and maybe I'm just looking at it wrong so I'm willing to hear an argument against it but the reason I was happy to see that wasn't just ooh Bill Gates it was it was Bill Gates a sees himself as a leader because that's the one he had chosen but Bill Gates came to this thing because people told him it was mind altering and and boggling and a billionaire doesn't my my image of billionaires is they aren't trying they don't spend a lot of time doing anything that takes them out of whatever zone they live in whatever bubble they live in and I thought that was a that was a shot of Bill Gates out of his bubble. That's Bill Gates going to a thing that's small and in this little theater and he's going to be surrounded by just regular people and he wants to experience this thing up front.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Something about that appealed to me. But what really... Happy to hear that because I was like, nah, nah, nah. This is every person. These are normal people. I don't, I mean, I know other famous people were there. I mean, Susan Sarandon's in the audience on one of them and another couple other famous people.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I thought I saw Tim Gunn and Torpike 1 confirmed it. The guy, the Good Samaritan who, you know, puts his hand up to his face and starts sobbing. I was pretty sure it was Tim Gunn. Yeah, that's Tim Gunn. Yeah. So that idea of like, what it is is I don't want to be taken out and it took it out just a little. And I was like, come on Bill Gates, leader, I mean. I mean, but in some ways, but in some ways, you know, but I mean, in some ways.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You wanted something deeper like. I wanted to say, lonely or something. Right, right. In some ways, he does, you know, he may see himself as a leader and you could argue whether he's a great leader or whatever kind of leader, but in some ways he is. Like, you can interpret what he does as that. But also, the whole point is people are pulling stuff off the board and being what they think they're going to be.
Starting point is 01:14:27 What really wrecked me, though, that sent me, just about sent me to the floor was the nobody guy. I know which one you're going to say, yeah. I know. And the reason that got me, the reason that got me is because it wasn't that, I wasn't, I wasn't, upset. If anything, it was like for the first time that guy is letting his vulnerability truly be out. Like, I don't know what it was about looking at him, but I just had this feeling that no one knows he feels this way. And now for the first time, he's actually saying it.
Starting point is 01:14:58 He's saying it. He's doing it in this setting. And there's no judgment. Nobody's judging him for it. There was like real, it felt like Derek's acknowledgement of what. his word was, was genuine and caring and understanding and kind of a quiet, I don't know how to explain it. Like that was so surprising.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Very, very compassionate and empathetic. And part of that is because he legitimately just bore his soul to that whole room and then asked them and, you know, had permission from them to say who they think they are. And I think that was the greatest power of it. is that it wasn't telling anybody what they, I mean, if we go back to this idea of identity and it being handed to you or forced on you or socially I have to say these things or be these things,
Starting point is 01:15:51 but like people got to choose and he acknowledged that and nobody was forced to do anything. There was no forcing of that identity. And that's when that guy came up, I didn't say anything about anyone. I laughed at the mystic and I was annoyed by Bill Gates. But other than that, I was still gripped and so just looking at their faces and listening and like his eye contact with them was amazing.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And then when that guy stood up, or it was his turn, I said, oh, he's a gamer. And then he said he was nobody. I was like, oh, what? Yeah. He has like a game t-shirt on. And he sat there staring at him so long and you saw that guy. sort of countenance just start to fall apart and and you know he knew what was coming because up to that point he'd been 100% accurate about everybody before him and so while it's you're still everyone's
Starting point is 01:16:50 still an amazement about the trick yeah you're now in it like this is okay well this is what's going to happen and we're going to go through every one of you standing people today and when it gets to him you saw that guy's face go from kind of stoic and hard to yeah I know what you're going to say and you should just say it yeah it's really so man Well, and it made me realize, like, clearly we use clothing, at least I do, with the Mystic and the guy I thought was a gamer, just, you know, we judge the outside and we think we know, and then we place our ideas on them, right? I mean, I think that's what was so disarming about all of this, is that, yeah, it just sort of washed all that away. It was amazing. And then I had this thought afterwards, I feel like America needs this.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Like, can we do this? Yeah. Like, I don't know. There was just a real obvious, this is everybody. Like, we have villainized somebody on the opposite side of us because it's helpful. It's helpful to have them be one-sided and stupid and whatever. But like, I don't know what that was about for me, but I really felt it. Yeah, I did too.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I felt a shift ever since. It's not like I was before like, yeah, I'm going to go beat me up. but Trump supporter or something, but it's more like, oh, we're all nobody and we're all the mystic and we're all, we're, you know, like, and we get to choose and sometimes we're forced into identities or positions because somebody else is choosing that. And that, that to me came out so strongly. Like when, when they get to choose, who do they see themselves as? And then, yeah, it was amazing. Well, the minute I saw them doing it at the beginning, I just thought, where is that going to go like because also it's a limited there's so much subtext here because it's a
Starting point is 01:18:42 limited quantity of these choices and if others got their quicker or were lucky enough to grab theirs first like that's just life yeah but you don't see yourself as just one thing right so you know podcaster might have been taken but artist or um humorist or you know something else which is kind of the fun of it is that you know You see somebody taking the thing you think you want. It's like, oh, no, but I'm, but I'm also this and I'm also this. Right, but it's a perfect allegory for how life can feel for people, this idea that because somebody got there early, they got first pick or had all the advantages, whatever advantages.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, exactly. That woman definitely got up there and said, oh, look, Mystic isn't taken. Yeah. She was pretty stoked. But that was the other thing that I came away with. There's another allegory or subtext in that. It's like, okay, Mystic wasn't taken. the guy that or the lady that took massacus, the guy that took
Starting point is 01:19:37 the woman who was an extrovert with her little finger guns. Yeah, or the one that did the guy that took Adonis. Like, dude, how much do you think of yourself if you picked Adonis? And what it said to me was, yeah, that's people. Like some people see themselves in this way. Others see themselves in a much more humble way.
Starting point is 01:19:58 This guy over here feels like he's nobody these days. Like, and it was okay to have them all in one. place and all be exposed, and I felt more optimistic about the guy named nobody than I did about the dude named Adonis. Do you know what I mean? To him, I went, well, your life's just fine right now, but when things get rough, what are you going to do? How are you going to deal with it? Like, just all these weird feelings and emotions came out of this thing that I didn't expect, man. It was just something. You just thought I was like, hey, go watch your TV show. It's fun. No, I knew you were on. I mean, you never do this unless you mean it, but I guess I, I,
Starting point is 01:20:34 was expecting. This is one of those few things in life where you can get hyped on something and then still have your expectations blown away. That's what I really quick. I thought he said orthodontist. Who did me? Oh instead of the Adonis? Yeah. Oh. For a second year, I'm like, Adonis. I don't remember that. There was that orthodontist. Yeah. He was definitely, he said Adonis and then grinned and sat down and he was a handsome, a good looking dude. But yeah, he definitely looked like more of an adonist than an orthodontist, I'll say that. I mean, I don't know. I had some pretty hot orthodontas. Keep in mind, there were people that didn't get up at all. They were sitting and didn't stand up because they just grabbed
Starting point is 01:21:15 one because who knows, it's just a lark or whatever. They did it kind of joking. Well, she's ninja his example. Right. Yeah. Which is funny because there's two things going on. Suddenly when they all realize what's happening, those who didn't stand, some of them are probably going, I should I should have stood, I actually, I need to know if this is me. You know, like there's this feeling of like, oh, I should, I should just see what this means. And being a part of it. Right. And then the others who did stand, there's some of those people, I'm sure that were like,
Starting point is 01:21:44 oh, maybe I shouldn't have stood. Like, there's all that complicated stuff going on. Meanwhile, there's just this feeling that your host, your, your protagonist, your guy in the suit walking around telling these stories is completely genuine about all of you, but also there's some kind of clock ticking for him and it has to do with this roulette business. It's so good, you guys.
Starting point is 01:22:09 It's so good. The subtlety of the six chambers on the back wall. Right. And all that stuff I don't know how they did that. I assume that all that stuff that fell off the wall that used to be 3D space. I assume that was while nobody was looking, somebody was
Starting point is 01:22:24 swapping those out or something. That's why he stood at the back of the stage for such a long time. My guess is to keep people's focus on the back. Right. Well, it worked. Totally worked. Yeah, that was awesome. It totally worked.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And there was also something really powerful about that, the glass and the blue light and the brick sticking through the middle of it and the sound it would make as you get close to it. Yeah, my cat did not like that sound at all. She glared at the TV and almost got up off my lap. It's just a hell of a thing. Like, what is this? What garbage are you watching now? What else is, or the other thing I came away from this is a purely pragmatic thing, but it's a reminder that there's a lot of really great artistic, thoughtful things happening that aren't on some sort of national stage and you don't know about them until somebody, you know, says, oh, we got to make this into a thing and then bring it to a broader audience.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Never heard of this guy. Never heard of this show. Right. Would have probably never heard of this ever had it not come to light. So I'm really glad that somebody said, hey, this ought to be bigger than it is and I'm sure that dude's about to experience a whole new level of
Starting point is 01:23:36 you know fame you saw the Nanette oh that was so good that was good that's the closest comparison I got because you think all right it's going to be a stand-up comedy show and it's like oh no it's a it'll knock your socks
Starting point is 01:23:50 yeah but there's a little bit of stand-up comedy thrown in there but it's but it's you know not just a stage performance not just Is she the New Zealand or Australian comedian lady? Yep. Is that the one I'm thinking of? Yeah, I really like that a lot too.
Starting point is 01:24:05 That was awesome. Oh, good. And she did something similar, which is like, it's legitimately her. She pulled back the curtain of like, you know, and part of it is her autism that it's, that's her style, right? Is to go, eh, here's what's real because that's all I can talk about is what's real or, you know, whatever. And which makes it so phenomenal because that's. a typical comedian is really hiding a lot of deep, dark parts of them. And this is the way to let those out.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It's kind of like the jester in the king's court can say the truth, but it has to be while dancing and laughing with bells on its head. And that's what was so remarkable about this, is that he has done his work and he has figured out himself, and then he somehow figured out how to transform that onto a stage where he disarmed everyone. So the whole thing is about this gun, but really he disarmed everyone.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Like it was so, so well done. And I think, and I think the, I mean, I don't know, I contrast this with like an Instagram influencer that, have you ever seen them in the wild? I have. It is horrifying. Because what you see, so I was in New York, I was in the New York City Library.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I was there with a friend from Sweden who, worships library it's her sanctuary it was like amazing for her to be there she's never been and it was just like this moment it was beautiful and then this freaking instagram person walks in and it's like it's like a whole film crew followed her and she's just flipping through books and flipping her hair and it was like having something sacred pooped on i was ready to lose it and i thought okay if i look at the pictures. I will see what looks, some crafted, nothing's real. Because then I saw her loser ever-living mind at somebody because they were in her way. And you're like, okay, here's the perfect example of the opposite. And I think as a performer is someone who's famous or
Starting point is 01:26:12 any, you know, there are public personas you have to maintain. And then what do you do with all your dark bits? You know, and this guy just said, hey, guys, here's all my dark bits. And I've worked through him and he was so emotional. I mean, his face, like the sadness behind his eyes sometimes was also like, wow. He's just showing us this. It was amazing. And also I'm pretty sure the, you know, his emotion toward the end is pretty real. I know actors can produce tears and, you know, look upset and I know that's a thing. But I don't know. But if he could act like that on a regular basis, he would have been in a movie before now, I would think. I just think, I mean, Why are we all crying at the end?
Starting point is 01:26:57 It was legitimate connection. He was legitimately seeing them because, again, if we now know enough about his life to know, him being really seen has been elusive. And he has people coming and telling him if he's okay or not and what he is and who he is. And I mean, his whole life has been creating illusions and cards. Right. So genius. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:22 It was something else. And I just felt like as I was watching, like, well, of course Wendy wants us to watch this, because this is all the stuff she's always talking about. This is like, this is a very artistic and concise presentation of the concept of dealing with your own stuff and then being there for those who need to also deal. And that is like, that is what this is. Like, if anything, I realize it's an artistic expression for him. He's worked really hard on this. Like, you know, it brings, this is how he pays his bills. Like, this is a, it's an enterprise across the board for his life, but you can tell so much of him
Starting point is 01:27:59 is in this that it's not just simply, I made a cool play. Like it's not, this isn't Hamilton, which is an amazing, you know, incredible work that took all this, you know, all this amazing stuff to get together. There's something else here, something just a little bit deeper. And the fact that everybody in that audience essentially gets to be a massive participant without knowing they're going to. And then all I could think about was the book guy, because when he comes back the next day, he doesn't even know about all that stuff at the end yet. I know. That was so cool. Mr. Tomorrow. Yeah. And the other thing is like when he said the book comes Mr. Yesterday. Yeah. The book goes out every day, every performance and then comes back and he's never had it
Starting point is 01:28:41 not come back and not be fulfilled. What that tells me is they all feel an acute responsibility because of how that's all presented. There's nothing flippant or trivial about this. That book is a sacred tome. Like, it really is. Yeah. Because it's so, it's these people interpreting themselves and others.
Starting point is 01:29:03 And like, what a rad thing that thing's going to be one day. No kidding. I'd love it if that turned into a, you know, a book you could buy and kind of read through all the different, eight,
Starting point is 01:29:14 the different interpretations and, right, which was another example. of him asking someone to be themselves, right? Like, Blake Slate, what do you think it's going to happen or your own perception or, you know, whatever? And then, of course, you know, they showed some of it, you know, people paint it, people draw it, people write it out and prose.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Draw like middle fingers and sticky notes, post-it notes all over it. Yeah, it was, like he tapped into, like, to me, that is like a child journal in that in the sort of youngness of it that it came across or like a moody teenager like here's my journal here's what I think there was some feeling about it like that for me I'm not really sure why maybe it's the artwork or something but then also the like it was just you are this important you as an individual are this important you're going to add to this Bible this thing is huge by the way and you matter I'm sure everyone went home and read what other people wrote right so not only are you individually important. You're part of 500 other people who did this exact same
Starting point is 01:30:27 thing. And then I wonder what it's like for them to come back specifically, like just the tomorrow people's, like what it's like to see the ending. The rest of it. And have another day of it. Like you get to do that twice. That's so cool. Yeah. Do you pick the same card? Do you get there earlier so that you can get mystic before that tapestry lady? There's always a mystic in the audience. There's always a mystic. Yeah, I mean, yeah. The book, by the way, taking us out of this for just half a second, was the only bit of continuity issue I had because apparently one person brought it back
Starting point is 01:31:03 with a bedazzled book cover on it. And there are times that he's walking around with it, and it's the regular book. They cut to an audience member, and they cut back, and he's holding the bedazzled version. They cut back to the audience, and he's holding the leatherbound edition. Oh, see, none of that bug me, because it's the regular book me, I knew they were swapping around all the time anyway, right? Well, I did too, but yeah. I mean, it didn't bug me as much as like, oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:31:24 So that's, that quick cut was actually two different nights that it was filmed on. Sure. Yeah. I found the bedazzled just once I noticed and I went, oh, who did that? Yeah, the mystic. The mystic did it. Yes, exactly. The mystic did it, but she did it while she was in the audience.
Starting point is 01:31:42 She did mystic. That's what mystics do. They're mysteries. Yeah, exactly. Well, anyway, I think this is mandatory. reviewing um just about for everybody you know if you're i even think this would be really great to sit down with your 10 year old and watch just know there's a couple of swears and it's not horrible but just know that um and like i cannot wait for my kids to watch this i cannot wait for
Starting point is 01:32:04 taylor and dylan tell me what they thought i can't wait for carter to sit down i'll watch this again with her um she's going to be a mess though oh my gosh dude yeah make sure they got tissues yeah which okay so let's just speak to that for a second so why are we all crying at the end? I don't know. Like, because we could just as easily be nobody in the, in that, in that audience. Yeah. Yeah, that's part of it for sure. I mean, it's just what I, what it, the way I feel like it was catharsis for me was a little like, I never forget this. So two years after 9-11, I was just randomly, so that had been what, 2002 or three, whatever, three, was just downstairs
Starting point is 01:32:47 or maybe it was the year anniversary but I remember feeling like yeah I never really dealt with that very well it just sort of happened and upended everything and everyone doesn't quite know what to do or say and comedy feels like it's dead and we don't know what to do with it and never really dealt with it
Starting point is 01:33:04 and then one night on the anniversary it was either one or the two year anniversary they're just doing a montage of all the police officers and firefighters that were rushing in there and didn't come out the people phone calls from people up in the towers right before they were destroyed and before they collapsed things like that like all this stuff kind of documented history of the of the of the moment and I lost it just completely lost it balled my eyes out for two hours
Starting point is 01:33:32 by myself by the way Kim was off somewhere with something and the kids were with her and I was alone and it just just destroyed me that night and I to this day I'm not exactly sure what was going on there except it felt like I just hadn't dealt with it you know what I mean like I hadn't let this big macro event I hadn't dealt with it personally yet even though everybody was affected personally I wasn't dealing with my own personal stuff and I felt like that was a night where I got to do that yesterday felt a little bit like finally dealing with what I perceive as has, or what I perceive as the fallout from a bunch of years of really severe division in our society and a year of pandemic in the midst of all that division.
Starting point is 01:34:22 And I think that this opened that wound up and made me, made me force me to like go, yeah, we're all these things. And sometimes those things separate us and piss each other off, but sometimes, not. And when there's honesty, there's, there's catharsis and there's letting go and there's a feeling of, I don't know, like all of the stuff just come rushing at us yesterday. Kim said the same thing. She's just like, I needed that. So I don't even know, I don't even think the dude knew.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Like this was all pre-COVID, this film. Yeah. So the dude didn't know that this was going to come at a time where this was all going to, you know, that it would have this level of impact because of the kind of life we're living right now. That's what I think is the reason it hit me so hard. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I came away with. There's a hell of a thing, man. It is. I think so too. And I think for me, it's done this very interesting, like, I don't know. I mean, I spend every day talking to people trying to see who they really are. Yeah. And I get the privilege of that a lot.
Starting point is 01:35:34 but like on a bigger scale that's it's hard to do right and i don't know it did that it just like opened up like everybody is nobody and everybody is scared and everybody is happy about this or that like you know it nobody is different from each other we are all on this together and how you know i don't know it was just relieving somehow yeah i really really appreciate He did a thing that reminded me of a good parent. Like when the ladies up there reading that letter, which inexplicably, you know, you're already blown away that this is a personal letter from somebody and you don't know how the trick worked and all that.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah. And everyone's witnessing that shock and then they have to read it silently. And she was so upset and crying and everything. And then when he came up to her, because he hasn't had to do this with everybody. Yeah. Some people is like just stand up and read it. And they do. Other people like her, she's just almost inconsolable.
Starting point is 01:36:33 So he leans over in this really kind way and just says, Are you going to be okay? Or I can read this if you'd prefer. Or, you know, like he's just being really caretaky in a way that doesn't feel fake or for the show. It feels like, oh, he means this. Like, there's a video of him in 1989, turning around and waving at his mom at some event at school where he's six or seven years old. That's the kid. Like, that's him.
Starting point is 01:37:01 even then he's just like this little quiet kind of i'm not sure what i'm doing here wave and and through this whole thing you see that adult version of that kid oh man i don't know that version of i'm not sure what i'm doing here yeah yeah and i can't believe i'm telling you all this stuff about me and it's it's it's it's amazing it really it is it may sound like you're gonna some people did stick around and you know they haven't seen yet and they're hearing us now for those I would say you've heard a lot of you know abstract stuff because you don't have the context of seeing it still see it even then you'll be blown away and it isn't about the tricks it's about where the tricks take you yeah each time someone says I'm like oh you got to go see this and then they they're like oh is it the magician I'm like oh yeah forgot he's a magician yeah that feels irrelevant I don't know why it does yeah it really it's the average it's the the messes to get to what you get out of it. Obviously, that's part of the awe and amazement and stuff that does shift your mind into a different brain state.
Starting point is 01:38:10 So it's crucial. There's also a higher level of just not distraction, but you're focused on what he's saying. And you sometimes don't even pay attention to what he's doing before you see the trick that goes along with what he's been talking about. So it's almost like misdirection, verbal misdirection at the highest level. That makes what he's saying
Starting point is 01:38:40 even more powerful. Yeah, at the freaking master level. Like I've never seen anything quite like it. Well, and I think maybe recognizing like these are New Yorkers. Like this is his audience. His audience are New Yorkers who can stop and watch lots of things happen and fail nothing. Or
Starting point is 01:38:57 they are like they see a lot of amazing art and a magician show is not going to be, you know, that exciting maybe. And so this level, I mean, to do it at that level and to get all these New Yorkers to gasp and cover their mouths and ball in public is like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. It's the most water cooler worthy discussion thing I've seen in years. And it's going to be going to be hard for me to forget. Also, I hope when, I don't know what this category falls into, but when the, when the Emmys are all around, this thing needs to get its due. It needs to be recognized. And there's something about Colbert being the one who produced it, that you're like, well,
Starting point is 01:39:43 of course he did. It feels like something he would have seen and gone, oh, we have to. Yeah, I need to make sure this is seen by a bigger audience. And it is something, not that he would do the magician, but it's something he does with comedy, right? He, there is the most sincere. real him that shows up every now and again that it's it's it is also disarming you know so he can do a laugh and a joke and her and then it's like this legitimately him open and sincere so i feel like it's his his brand just not magic but comedy yeah yeah so go watch it and don't not watch it okay even if you got to pay a couple of bucks you don't have a choice yeah our homework next week uh look who's talking to that's right make sure you all watch look who's
Starting point is 01:40:28 talking too. Great. I was really hoping for baby geniuses, but it's fine. Babies day out. Make sure you all watch. We will discuss. One of the dog movies where he plays basketball. Let's get that up there. Airbuds. Airbuds too. There you go. It has a way,
Starting point is 01:40:44 it really does have a way of making it other things seem trivial and dumb. Yeah, like all the things. Like all your dumb fights and all your stupid problems. It's great. Yeah. It's really, really something. So take our advice and do that. Wendy, anything else you want to mention this week, Real Steps, anything that's going on? Not that this you know those are still important so we should talk about them they are real steps is going
Starting point is 01:41:03 on and it's great we have such a good group i just want everyone to do it with us so uh yeah that'll be the next time won't be till may so you'll have time to think about it um yeah it's going good we are fun i mean i can't think about anything but uh in and of itself so right that's true watch that and then join real steps in may oh yeah did we i think we only mentioned the name once maybe be twice, but the thing on Hulu was called in and of itself. And what's amazing, I can't remember the dude's the last name. I have to Google it every time.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I know his name is Derek. That's all I can remember. Derek Delgadoio. It's because it doesn't, that's not what matters. But I have had to Google it six times to tell someone about it. It's weird. I can't remember the name of it. Yeah. And by the way, he was a
Starting point is 01:41:52 consultant on that Vegas show that didn't last very long in 2013. So he's like got all these jobs where he would come on in and say oh he's the prestige he had a special thanks on the prestige party which you just watched uh because he had some he was there giving advice about some of the magic and stuff like we've known this guy we just didn't know this guy so uh anyway yeah i had to look i want to look back and see if he's ever been on uh pen and teller fool us because that's my that's my only real magic um thing that i that I see these days, right?
Starting point is 01:42:29 It's like the, you know, I don't, I don't watch any other magic shows or specials or things like that, but I do watch Penn and Teller Fool Us. Well, now you'll know that this, whenever you see the image of this poster, you'll know it has nothing to do with the New York's, New York, uh, crossword puzzle thing you do every, right, because that's what I thought it was, yeah. Yeah, that big grid of who am I or I am things that were thrown us for a while, but now we get it. I am six across. I am 11 down.
Starting point is 01:42:55 all right well done wendy fantastic talking to you as always real steps at org everybody we'll see you next time bye thanks bye okay thus endeth our eternal review of in and of itself it really is great you guys we're not just saying that okay yep you got to see it to believe it okay uh that's gonna do it for the show i think we do have all right so long story short not getting of details here. A little while ago, Kim had a procedure. It didn't stick. So the only solution now is a surgery. And she doesn't like me talking about it because it's a lady thing. And, you know, I don't want to. Sure, sure. It's one of those things. As a result, she has to have surgery on Friday. And as a result of that, I don't know when that's happening. Today, they're supposed to call us and say
Starting point is 01:43:48 when we go in. And it'll either be, I don't know. Actually, I don't know when it's going to be. I don't know if it's going to bump the instance or, but it'll probably affect PM if I'm guessing, given the timing. So I guess what I'll say is this. If it doesn't happen that way or they change it or it gets delayed or whatever or it doesn't affect that time frame, we'll still do a TMS PM tomorrow. If not, I'll let you guys know with as much advanced notice as I can that there isn't going to be one. But right now, I'm just playing it by ear. So, yeah. And I mean, you know, family, this needs to come first and anyone who doesn't understand this is a cold heartless bastard so yeah and a pooh head a poop head really but thank you for your patronage yeah yes very much so so we'll let you
Starting point is 01:44:34 know it also affects the instance if potentially um but it's supposed to be a same day thing so there for a few hours and then home but she'll be put out for it like it's a full on you know like put her under kind of surgery thing only only do tm s pm tomorrow if she's unconscious because otherwise you should be taking care of her but you know that's that's my good point the only way we do p.m. is if we haven't gone in yet if we if they say oh we can't take you in here until 5 p.m. tonight then we're still do it if not then it'll probably get hosed so sounds good yep so that's the plan um and she's okay it's not major it's but anytime they put you under you have to you know you just got to be got to be ready for whatever so that's all that reminder today 1.30 or 1 p.m.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Mountain Brian will be doing Coverville live at Coverville or Twitch.tv.tv slash Coverville. So check that out. And if we do the instance, it'll be tomorrow at 1230, which will be interesting because that'll be kind of a lead-up to BlizzCon online, which we'll be doing, or sorry, blizzConline. Keep screwing that up next week.
Starting point is 01:45:36 And you can expect some other coverage around that event from me in some other ways. So probably spent some time with people like Kyle Ferguson, Garrett Weins-Earl, John, some other Blizzard types who want to cover some of that event plus a little thing I can't tell you about yet so anyway that's all next week
Starting point is 01:45:55 watch for that and if we're not here tomorrow we'll be back Monday I think that's it oh film sack this weekend as well should be film sack this weekend guess the connection cover will guess the connection tomorrow at
Starting point is 01:46:05 2.30 so six cover songs they all have something in common figure it out and win a prize I think I'm giving away a fantastic four T-shirt Ooh! Has it had your previous body in it, your body? Nope. Just came in yesterday. I decided, you know what? Let's give this one away.
Starting point is 01:46:23 It is a Yancey Street, Bar and Grill, uh, ever-loven thing t-shirt. So, I love it. Yep. I love it. So, uh, I want to win it. It has not been on my buddy. Your buddy. Okay. Well, excellent. So watch for that. Yep. If you are a supporter of the show, thank you. If you're not, go check it out. Uh, patreon.com slash DMS. And for everything else you're looking for is it frog bands. dot com slash TMS. Let's play a song and get out of here. What do you got? I've got a request, Scott. I'm going to play it. This one comes to us from Aaron Flores. Flores. She's, hi, guys. My husband, Luis, and I have been listening for a long time. And we love the show. I need your help. This year, my husband's birthday, the big 401, coincides with him finishing a bachelor's in science degree. So much to celebrate, but COVID has put major cancellations on anything I had planned.
Starting point is 01:47:17 In the past four years, he's remained diligent, passionate, hardworking, and continued to be a great provider through the ups and downs. He's the most amazing man I've ever met, and I want the whole world to know it, well, at least the tad pool. If you could help us celebrate his 40th birthday graduating school on Valentine's Day by playing an upbeat, happy song, I'd appreciate it so much. You are my everything, Luis, and I'm so proud of you. Love Aaron. Oh, that's nice. Thanks so much. You guys are so hilarious and have illuminated all those late-night study athons.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Cheers. P.S., if you have too many requests for the month, could he get a, I can see why you like it? Oh, yeah. I can definitely see why you like it. I was ready, man. You were ready, finger hovering over the button. So there you go, Aaron, you're getting both of them. And congratulations, Louise. Good job.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Science, Bachelor of Science? Well, that led me to one very particular song, and you can probably guess what it is, but you may not have expected this version right here. How about a bluegrass version of She Blinded Me with Science, originally by Thomas Dolby? recorded by the band Love Cannon. These guys are awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:22 And this comes from their greatest hits, Volume 1 from 2012. They only released Greatest Hits albums. That's how great this band is. Love Cannon, here's their cover of. She Blinded Me with Science. We'll see you guys, for sure on Monday, possibly a bunch of other times this weekend.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Bye. It's poetry and motion She turned to tender eyes to me As deep as any ocean As sweet as any harmony She blinded me with science She blinded me with science And felt me in biology
Starting point is 01:49:17 When I'm dancing close to her, finding me with science, science. Science! I can smell the chemicals. Binding me with science, science. Science Science Science
Starting point is 01:49:52 Science It's poetry in motion And when she turned her eyes to me As deep as any ocean As sweet as any harmony She blinded me with science She blinded me with science And there be a geometry
Starting point is 01:50:20 When she's dancing next to me with science Science I can hear machinery blinding me with science science Science Science It's
Starting point is 01:51:02 Poetry It's poetry emotion And now she's making love love to me the skills of the commotion the aramets in harmony
Starting point is 01:51:17 she blinded me with science she blinded me with science and hit me with technology it's good heavens with sacerdoteau
Starting point is 01:51:37 you're beautiful I don't believe it That she goes again She's tied up And I can't find anything All my tubes and wires Careful notes An antiquated notion
Starting point is 01:51:53 It's poetry emotion It's turned to tender As deep as any ocean As deep as any ocean As sweet as any harmony She's blinded me with science She budded me of themselves And hit me with
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