The Morning Stream - TMS 2071: Barry Excited

Episode Date: February 22, 2021

Who is Rorschach? That's The Question. Daft Punk and Tennille. Barry Gordon James Levit Fraggle Scott Bibby Show! Unsolved Mystery Solved! Receiving the Playstation Vaccine. All Roads Lead to Kaley Cu...oco. Resin-Ass Evil. There are FOUR nut kicks! Crystallized Internet Entity. You know a Deuce when you see it. Kevin is Done With Your Routes. You Shall Have None in Littleton, None in West Denver, and No Lt. Yar! Don't Polish The Bishop, Knock Him Over! Counting pennies by the quarter with Bill. It Was Major Spoilers All Along. and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS. Who is Rorschach? That's the question. Daft Punkin'Neill. Barry Gordon, James Levitt, Fraggle, Scott Bibbyshow. Unsolved mystery, solved. Receiving the PlayStation vaccine. All roads lead to Kaylee Cuoco.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Resin ass evil. There are four nut kicks. Crystallized internet entity. Oh, those connect. You know deuce when you see it. Kevin is done with your routes. You shall have none in Littleton, none in Denver West, and no lieutenant you are. Don't polish the bishop.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Knock him over. Counting pennies by the quarter with Bill. It was major spoilers all along and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I don't understand the internet. Like where do we hold all of the information in the internet? Is there crystals or what's holding them? Betty tells me that blouses and skirts rate A-plus but schoolgirls. The morning stream.
Starting point is 00:01:00 The morning stream. The morning stream. Bad bad. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to TMS, the morning stream. It's Monday, February 22nd, 2021. So that's 222.2.21. No.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1. 2 to 221. Yes. A year from now, you're going to, you're absolutely going to go apes shit during the opening of TMS.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm going to lose my mind. I'm so excited. I wonder what day that falls on. Does that fall? Oh, my God. I hope that doesn't fall in a weekend. Oh, it could. We'll have to do a show that day
Starting point is 00:01:46 because we're required by, uh, I mean, you know, yesterday was 22121, so that's kind of, you know, that's kind of cool. Yeah. Something like that. I like crap like that. As you know.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Uh, but hey, we're here to do a show. It was like a long weekend because it kind of was. The BlizzCon stuff was busy, a lot going on, a lot in our heads. And it feels good to get back to the regular, the rigmarole. I had this been a real blizzcom, we may not even be here today because we'd still sort of recovery. Yeah, we'd probably, I probably would be flying back today because I do the day after maybe a trip to Disney. Right. Blisly, blisneyland or whatever they call it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You know, they couple the two. I've tried that, you know, fly out first thing in the morning, the day after. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. I'm never doing that again. It is. It is. You see everybody in the airport, though, and they're all on the Wi-Fi, and they're all
Starting point is 00:02:44 playing hearthstone on there. Although, I guess in 2018, they were all playing, I saw a lot of switches playing Diablo 3 in the, oh, sure, that year, that year in particular. But prior to that, yeah, it was, it's always heartstone. ever since 2014 announced it or yeah brought it out 2222 is a Tuesday
Starting point is 00:03:06 okay thank you all right set your such your clocks now everybody yep hone it in because we're making it happen hey we were just talking before the show
Starting point is 00:03:16 about how daft punk broke up and not broke up like you know beetle style where they don't like each other and they want to go do their own thing it sounds like they're just like hanging it up They're just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:28 But he kind of do wish that there was a little bit of that. Like, you've got like a robot fight. Yeah. Yeah. Then I get to, what I want to see is. I have enough of your boops and beeps. I want to see them tear each other's armor off. Not armor, but they're like biker helmet crap and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Just so I can see how old these dudes are. Because they've done this magic trick for all these years, almost 30 years. Where they, they, they, you, you never could see who's in there. And I know we have pictures of who these guys are. It's not like it's a. or, yeah, it's not a super, whatever, but but because you do that and that's your thing and that your gig
Starting point is 00:04:03 and they barely ever see who these real people are, you never, they never age. They're just you know, robot men who live forever. That's said, yeah, I have no doubt in my mind that when the right, like 10 years down the line
Starting point is 00:04:19 or five years down the line, there's going to be a thing, oh my God, deft punk is reuniting for this one thing. Like a new Tron movie. or uh oh i'd take the tron movie thing junkie xl remix of something or whatever and they're going to like get back together for for one more project so i think that means their last major thing was the weekend collaboration i think was star boy yeah i think so i don't think anything else so now we just have mother effin star boy and no no tron sequel no other rad thing that we want
Starting point is 00:04:49 that's right like i said i i'm almost willing to put money on it saying that they'll reunite for something in five years or ten years or whatever i would normally for fun for the show take a counterpoint but i actually agree with you i think they will yeah it's what everybody does i mean the eagles even made a joke out of it yeah you think they end up in um this is this is a real test of the rock and roll hall of fame does an edm artist pair like them make it in there now that they've had this big long run what do you think of that yeah that's a good question i feel like the rock and roll of fame has broken so many rules as far as what genres of music they allow in there, that it would be hypocritical for them not to allow an EDM band in there.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I mean, if they've got a couple country performers, they've got some, they've got a lot of rap. Yeah, lots of rap, lots of hip hop, all sorts of business. That's right. And the person that's going to induct them into the Hall of Fame is going to be fat boy slim. Oh, I like this. I like that. That's great. I'll just call it right now. Norman Cook will get up there and induct them into the Hall of Fame. Nice. Either that or they need to get it. Or it'll be the weekend. Oh yeah, the weekend will do it. He'll say, you may not make it out there because you'll get trapped in those hallways behind the stage and be looking around and trying to get it
Starting point is 00:06:17 and get lost. And no, it's so bright in here with all these lights. Yeah. That meme just keeps They're blinding. Yeah, I enjoyed that. That's my favorite part of that. Do you see that I, uh, sorry, this is one side note about the weekend. Fine, performer, well done, hell of a career, good job, Super Bowl, all this. Yes. Uh, I had wondered, though, if he was like a space mutant because his cheekbones are a million times higher than anyone else's.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So I thought, what's going on with this guy here, right? So I did some, look at the weekend's cheekbones. So I went, yeah, bring that up. So I went and looked it up. uh 100% had work done uh oh really yeah and he was really open about it like he he went to some events with like bandages all over his face when he was still healing like he didn't hide it it was like a you sure that just wasn't the bandage stick because he has the bandage stick he does have the bandage stick but if you go look at uh let's see where is that comparison shot i saw it's
Starting point is 00:07:16 really crazy um and again no you know i don't have any yeah i don't have any uh i don't have any uh pain toward it or anything it's fine let's see where is it okay so he has got oh there's a the full story behind his pages oh recently yeah pretty recent
Starting point is 00:07:36 um like pre just like just a little bit before yeah those aren't I mean there's no way those came with the with the box is what I'm saying do you know what I mean like there's no
Starting point is 00:07:51 I say you know because I'm saying it's fake plastic stick surgery face so really oh really isn't just the schick yeah i think it's just the schick isn't it oh so those that right there i just put in our discord those aren't permanent that stuff no let's see here's uh what's going on with the weekend's face is the article wow i can tell you revealed a radical new look on social media totally creepy selfie uh the blinded by the light singer what it's blinding Blinding lights is the song, right? Yeah, there's no blinded.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Blinded by the lights. Well done, grotia. Gratio magazine.com. Yeah, well done. Well done. You guys killed. But it's just a stunt as the facial alterations were all prosthetics for the new music video for Save Your Tears from his new album.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Oh. So did he have, you didn't have these at the, at the thing. The Super Bowl deal? Yeah. He didn't wear these because I didn't. I don't think he did. Yeah. all right well look when you're a mother effing star boy you do what you want is what i'm saying
Starting point is 00:08:57 but but can we trust a magazine that thinks his song is blinded by the lights no no that's that wrapped up like a douche song right it's the wrapped up like a douche song yes exactly yeah they they're they're insane they're they're a bad uh they're a bad journalistic uh brag for saying and when you hear that by the way when you hear the springsteen original of blinded by the lights. It sounds like revved up like a deuce. It's just the Manfred Man cover that sounds douchey.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Well, I would ask to the chat room this. Where were you the day you learned that the original was done by Bruce Springsteen? Today, right here. I was sitting right here. I didn't know. Really? I had no idea. Brian does this. He comes to the show reminds us all that something's a cover. We all thought was like a thing. I had no
Starting point is 00:09:46 freaking idea. And it seemed like the chat's the same. They're like, what? Are you kidding? Yeah, there's a few people. Yeah. Blind I want to say it's from the Wild The Innocent the East Street Shuffle. His first album might be from second, but it's a lot more I mean it's early Springsteen
Starting point is 00:10:02 so it's a lot more acoustic than the very production heavy man for man version. All right. Now here's a question for you that I would hope that I'd never have to ask in my lifetime. Yes. The phrase wrapped up like a douche makes sense to me because you'd say
Starting point is 00:10:18 all right, well there's a, I've got the douche, it's work is done, I'm going to wrap it up And I'm going to chuck it away. But if you say revved up like a deuce, I don't know what you're talking about. Like a deuce coop, like a little deuce coop, like a car. So you rev it up. What's a deuce? A deuce.
Starting point is 00:10:34 It's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, a car. Specifically, you can ask me specifically what kind of car a deuce is. Yeah, well, it's, I don't know what that is. I've never heard of it. It's a, like a, uh, uh, uh, let's see here. What is a deuce car? Oh, there was a car called the 1932 Ford Deuce. There you go. The Ford Deuce.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh, it's one of those like hot roddy front end looking gnarly. The minute you see it, you know it. It's, I just had never heard of it before. Oh, the deuce. So the deuce is because it's 1932. So the deuce comes from the two in 1932. Oh, that's interesting. Otherwise, it just be 1930.
Starting point is 00:11:19 1930. no one wants to rev it up like that but do you see that the pick i just put in the discord is totally now i know exactly what it is and it makes sense you would rev one up you would rev one up yeah you rev up like a do rev it up like a deuce all right well another runner in the night this has been great hey i would also i would also argue a different kind of deuce would be something you'd wrap up yeah yeah especially if you're camping take care of your stuff man yeah wrap up that deuce Would you? Barrier.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Take it far away. Yeah, bury it. Get it down way deep. Okay, here's the fun thing I want to do today. The other day, finishing up a documentary that I think I'll probably include as a side recommendal this week when I get to it. Cool.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I don't have to talk about what the documentary is, except to say that it covered a lot of stuff from the 80s, 70s and 80s. And specifically in the 80s, for some reason, they brought up Robert Stack's original unsolved mysteries. Remember that? Remember that show? Yeah, I totally remember that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I remember him standing in front of a nearly pitch black background, but there was some, like he was in an antique store that didn't pay their electric bill. Yeah, yeah. That's a good way of putting it. That's exactly it. And he would stand there looking all serious going, do you have any information that would lead to us getting this guy in jail or whatever? And they would play that music.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Well, anyway. That's right. It totally remember that. It was a thing. It was mostly for our parents, but whatever. It existed. And they kept flashed in this documentary. They flashed up this one hundred number if you had any information about the capture of whatever, fugitive. And I thought, where does that number go now? So if I call, if I call the number that used to get people caught for unsolved mysteries, if I had a mystery to unsolve, no, to solve, and I would have to call that number, in 2021, where does that number go? And I didn't try it. Who is the maybe lucky person that ended up with that phone number?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. Or is it the same? Do they hold on to it? Do I call it? Because there's a new version of this on Netflix, I guess. The Unsolved Mysteries Netflix show. Really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Which I haven't watched. And if I were them, I would have snatched up this phone number like Tootsweet. Yeah, like a douche you got to wrap up. Exactly. Like you snatched up like a phone number for. That's right. Wrap it up. So I'm going to call it.
Starting point is 00:13:47 We're going to find out what it is. The number's 800, 800, 876-5353. It's an old public number. And I'm going to dial it. Now, I didn't do this beforehand, so this may be a complete flop, or we may strike gold. We don't know. Oh, God. So here goes, everybody.
Starting point is 00:14:06 No routes found. That's it? Wow. No routes found, but I found a route. There are some mysteries in our phone. system. Like, not just a or anything like that like we used to get all the time. Yeah. You get these
Starting point is 00:14:23 weird dark corners of the internet or the phone system now where it's no routes found. Yeah, what does that even mean? Let's try it again. I want to make sure it. No routes found. Yeah, why is Kevin on the phone saying no routes found?
Starting point is 00:14:39 Exactly. They're like, this guy got paid by the way. All right now, Kevin, before you say no routes found, make sure you wait a couple seconds because we don't want to have to edit around it all right so take a breath and just say no routes found all right ready we'll take one and go thanks kevin no rounds no rounds now do a lively one no routes oh there you know all right now do a yeah they went with his dead they went with his deadpan one i guess that's right Kevin's out of there anyway
Starting point is 00:15:11 that's a dumb thing I was hoping it's a bummer at least yeah give us something that is the there's we new unsolved mystery, apparently. We don't know what that is. We don't know who to call. Greg says, make sure we don't play that three times. What happened? B's come out of our mouths? Or what happened, Kevin? Or Kevin. Greg isn't what I meant. Now I'm calling everybody, Kevin. All right. Well, that was a, that was fun. Just so everybody knows, we've now proved it. Unsolved Mysteries, 800 tip line from the 80s. No longer works.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Okay. That's right. Another mystery that's been going on for a while, Scott, is centers around me. Yep. And I put this out there, I think, in December. What's Brian going to get first, the vaccine, at least the first dose, or a PlayStation 5? And I think we're one step closer to the answer. All right. I'm going to guess. Can I guess?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Sure. PlayStation 5. Yeah. That's a really good guess. Oh, good. Absolutely correct. As a matter of fact. uh yeah i ordered it so you know basically just kind of keeping an eye on things during um i think it was
Starting point is 00:16:22 during blizzcon line on friday or maybe it was before uh the uh who's the best buy was doing their deal and here's the way best buy does it tries me nuts they basically make it so oh we've got five playstations let's open up things for a little while and make the little buy now button on that page yellow and then open those are gone then we turn it back to gray sure and uh when you click on it while it's yellow it says okay one has been added to your cart do you want to pick it up from the nearest best buy and make sure you're you know if i'm helping people if they want to get one as well sure but um you make sure you're logged in that you've got your credit card information because it's not like a all right we're holding this for you for 10 minutes until
Starting point is 00:17:11 you complete your purchase it is if you don't get through the purchasing process in before somebody else gets through the purchasing process, you've lost it. So, but here's the dumb thing that Best Buy does. It says, all right, would you like to pick it up from the closest Best Buy to your location, which in my case is Denver West. You mean one of the dumb things that Best Buy does. Got it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 One of the dumb things, one of the myriad. Sure. Big list, big list. The worst thing is the Best Buy does. Dumb things, the Best Buy does. For sure. So it says, okay, Denver West. Oh, yeah. There's not going to be one available there, but there's going to be one available in Littleton, which is 10 miles away. Do you want that one to say, oh, yes, go to that one. Oh, no, it's not going to be available there. How about Greeley, which is 25 miles away? Yes. Oh, I hate that. Sorry, how about South Denver, which is blah, blah, blah. And so it'll just basically go boing, point, point, point, point, and keep going until until this is, oh, sorry, we're all out.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's because it's not, it's not based on availability, is it? It's just them saying, oh, you didn't get it here. And the algorithm. not their algorithm. Their programming says, what about the store that's next closest? And that's all it's doing. It's just sending it down that line. So until everybody gets through their purchase process, it's going to keep bouncing you around to all the different stores. And then once it's back to sold out again, it says, oh, it's not available anywhere. Huh. Sorry. Maybe we'll release some more. So what I did this time is I said, okay, all right, Denver West. Oh, no, it's not going to be available at Denver West. How about Littleton? Nope. Denver West. I click Denver West again. Oh, no, I'm sorry. How about Littleton? All right, Denver West. And I just kept pushing on Denver West until I said, one has been, okay, enter your security code for your credit card.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Oh, wow. It worked then. It worked. And I got through, got the email confirmation. Listen, I didn't want to, I was so hyper-focused on getting through this thing. I have like five bucks in Best Buy Rewards, cash, and this. Would you like to apply some of that? No, just, no, just, no, stop it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah. You want Littleton? You want Littleton? Wow. Right, exactly. So they're not shipping it. You've got to go get it is the deal. I have to go pick it up and I'm not going to tell you what day I'm picking it up in case there's
Starting point is 00:19:30 anyone who wants to pretend they're me. Although now they know the store. So they can just keep going there every day. But I have to go pick it up. So until I have it in my hand, the jury is. still out on what I'm getting first vaccine of the PS5. All right. Well, I feel hopeful for your PS5.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Although, I hope you're not like my friend, Sean, who lives in, I think he's still in Phoenix. Anyway, he's on his third, second or third PS5, and now is waiting for his fourth controller replacement. So, I hope you don't have his weird luck. That guy had nothing but problems. Yeah, nothing but issues when you got it. is. I did. Of course, I've got to order a game, even though the smart thing
Starting point is 00:20:17 for me would be to just wait and finish Avengers because I've barely played Avengers, which I was waiting for for a year and a half or two years. Yeah. But I thought Miles Morales was going to be my first purchase, but Valhalla
Starting point is 00:20:33 went to unsale, Assassin's Creed Valhalla. So I said, yeah, I'm getting that. Nothing wrong with that. My game's great. I enjoyed the hell out of it. And you'll already be in this like open world mood after Phoenix Rising. It's kind of got some of that DNA in there.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. Same company and everything. So my goal is to try and finish the Phoenix Rising or at least get through as much of it as possible before it arrives so that I can feel better about switching and not saying, okay, playing, you know, straddling three games,
Starting point is 00:21:06 Warcraft, Shadowlands, Phoenix and Valhalla all at once. I played a lot of wow yesterday. I think the event got me excited. I don't know. It does that every year. Like, the most I play Diablo or Harthstone or anything outside of Wow is right after BlizzCon. But yesterday, I couldn't be bothered.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I basically was getting, seriously, I was like getting work done, getting stuff ready for A&TP tonight. And then we had a little birthday thing for my uncle. And I didn't open Wow at all. And I have not, I've not advanced, this will be the first week since it came out that I've not advanced my renown. Oh, Brian. I know. I'm going to do it tonight. I'm going to do it this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Okay. All right. I feel a little better about it now that you said that. A little bit better. Yes. Well, uh, there. Claire reminds me about Animal Crossing. Dang it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. I know. They're ating Mario. Yeah. Did you see all that shit? There warp pipes in that now. Warp pipes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Warpipes. Get from one end of your island to the other now. Oh my gosh. What the frick. we even doing it's asking what he's doing it's Brian Dunaway joining us hi there pal oh hi Scott and Brian hi hello Brian sure nice to how are you guys you know pretty good pretty good you super and I'm doing Girt yeah I feel rested we didn't have uh we had no uh film sac so I feel very rested very recharged and ready to hit yeah I got to admit here where we want
Starting point is 00:22:41 this weekend i i don't even know but i got to admit like saturday and sunday or friday and saturday they felt more weirdly productive for me because i didn't have that extra stress which i love the show but it was like a nice oh i love the show yeah but you forget it takes us each each of us takes about four to six hours a week by the time you watch the movie record the show do your show notes it's like wow yeah what did this birth of time come from it's six hours just for me to rent my intro every week oh yeah at least Well, we always wonder how long those brilliant things take you to make. So, yeah, it makes sense out.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Virtuosity is the next thing. Virtuosity. The first but not only time that those two actors would work together. They were in that gangster, American gangster later. So that'll be a fun part of that to talk about. I don't know the two actors of which you speak, because I know nothing about this movie, and I'm fine with that. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Well, it's Denzel Washington and the... Russell Crow. Russell Crow. Yeah. And my head went, are you not entertained? And that's all I heard. I couldn't think of his name. And a very young Kaylee Cuoco and a very old Louise Fletcher. Fantastic. So what we want. Nurse Ratchett.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Excellent. We have on the line with us a listener. We're going to play a game. Hi, who's this? Hi, it's Amy. Red Fraggle in the chat. Hello, Amy. Nice to have you here. How's it going? How fortuitous? Because the version of the game we're playing today featured you one time. So this will be great. Hey, Brian, why don't you explain to Amy how this works,
Starting point is 00:24:13 even though she was one of those people one time? She's on this side now. That's right. We're playing What's Your Nerd? I've interviewed a member of the Tadpool and asked them nine questions in a subject in which they consider themselves nerdy. Scott and Brian are going to take turns predicting whether or not
Starting point is 00:24:29 our guest will get those questions correct. If they predict correctly, they receive a point. And the first player to five points wins the game. Amy, as always, your job is to do. choose which of our two hosts will more accurately predict our guests' knowledge in their category. If you're correct, you and our prize package, which includes everything you could possibly want to drink. That's right. You're going to get a bag of Cahua coffee from Cahua Roasters, which is awesome. And you're going to get a bag from, or I'm sorry, get a bag of tea from
Starting point is 00:25:00 Phoenix Pearl Tea, Phoenixpeorlte.com. So you get tea and coffee. It's almost like your flight attendant asking passenger 1A what they want to drink. Very nice. Both of those shipped directly to you. Very cool. Speaking of Kaylee Cuoco, she was a flight attendant asking if you want coffee or tea in that show she did. That's right. It all comes back to Kaylee Cuoco.
Starting point is 00:25:23 All roads lead to Kaylee Cuoco. All right. So before you can decide which horse you want to back, Amy, we're going to our guest. Let's find out who our guest is for What's Your Nour. not hearing it oh you're not well poop on a stick we just thought there was a light long pause you know what i switched the i switched my microphone over but i didn't switch this over
Starting point is 00:25:56 there we go all right one more time who's our let's find out who our guest is i'm here with barry fulke hey berry how you doing man Hey, Brian. Good. How are you, sir? Good. It's time for What's Your Nerd. Now, you told me, well, you gave me a few choices. The one I decided on was Inception. Oh. You put the idea in my head.
Starting point is 00:26:21 How long has it been since you've seen the movie? So it's actually only probably been about a month. The backstory on this is when it came out and there was such a big buzz. It was a time that I was going to see movies every week. and we were going to go see salt. But the buzz was so big, and I was worried about spoilers. This is before I was listening to you and Scott. And so we saw it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And it was one of those few movies that I had no preconceived notions going in and totally blew me away, the combination of the plot, the cinematics, cinematography, and certainly the music blew me away. I really don't know if I blinked in the last 30 minutes of the movie. Yeah. And I was physically exhausted. I'm like, that was fabulous. I went to see it again the next night.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And I think I ended up seeing it four times at first. Like, it was just one of those movies that just completely grabbed me. And so I try to see about once a year or so. Okay, good. Well, then you're, you should be a shoe-in for all of these questions. You should have no problem. Yeah, I've heard your questions and you lead people astray. So I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Scott, help me out here. Brian, help me out. All right, well, let's jump into it. Here we go. All right. So Inception, he saw it about a month ago. He's a big fan of the movie, so that should kind of give you an idea of how well he's going to do. Amy, knowing that that is today's topic, who do you think is going to be better about getting predictions right on how Barry does with his questions? Oh, so much pressure, because I really want this little prize package. I'm like all about the coffee and the tea. So let's go with Scott to win. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I like that. And then do I pick who goes first or? Because you picked Scott to win, he automatically goes first. Oh, look at that. That's how that works. It starts him out with a little bit of an advantage. All right, cool. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I don't know. Let's do it. All right. So I asked Barry during the first level of an inception, five minutes of sleep in the real world is equivalent to how long in dream time. Oh, man. So for every five minutes, how long is it in dream time? Oh, well, like, very. The dream time.
Starting point is 00:28:44 It's not important for you to know it, but if you have a guess, you can give me your guess. I mean, I don't remember, but knowing, I also love that movie. I have to think that if you saw it that often then and then tries to see it once a year, it's like the way I do Waterworld. He's probably going to know. So I'm going to say yes, he'll know. Okay. You know, he'll see if he knows.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And by the way, five minutes is one hour in time. And Larry Kenobi guessed correctly. Yeah, they had a calculation where it slowed it down. I want to say it was like 20 times slower, so an hour. An hour is exactly right. Yeah. Bing! He got right.
Starting point is 00:29:20 He didn't get his math right because five times 20 is not one hour. But he did get the question right. Well, that's why I was nervous at first, because when he said the math, I went, oh. And then I heard him say the answer. And I went, ah. It'd be an hour and 40 minutes by my math. But it doesn't matter. You got it right.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So very good. Since you have the lead, this next question goes to Brian. Oh. I asked Barry, when recruiting a new architect, Cobb visits his father-in-law in what city? All I heard was Barry, Scott. Sorry. I can repeat the question. When recruiting a new architect, Cobb visits his father-in-law in what city?
Starting point is 00:30:00 city. Oh, okay. Absolutely. I mean, he just watched this a couple of weeks ago. We did. On Netflix. So I mean, yeah. So come on. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. All right. Let's see. Barry will know this. Barry. Let's see how he does. So I believe he went to Paris, France, to visit with him, played by Sir Michael Kane. That's right. That's exactly right. Yes. Which automatically gives any movie just an extra level of status.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Gravitas. Yes. Correct. So good job, Brian. He did know that one. Good job. It goes back to Scott. Okay. I asked, I asked Barry, what is Ariadne's totem? Because you know, everybody has their little totem. And I asked him if he knew what Ariadnees was.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm going to say he absolutely knows that, yes. Now, do you remember what it was? Because I'm going to tell you that it's, that I'm, I'm, this doesn't. doesn't give anything away, but I asked him to be specific about it. Is it the Ken Watanabe character? No, Ariadne is Ellen Page. Oh, that's Ellen Page. Right. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I think it was a bottle of soy sauce, wasn't it? What? It wasn't. I get it. Hold on. I don't remember hers. Shoot. It's the Michael.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Sarah is her token. I've no idea. But I think he knows. He'll know. Okay. All right. Oh, Elliot. It's a he,
Starting point is 00:31:38 Ellen Page is now Elliot Page. By the way. Oh, I'm sorry, Elliot Page, correct. Yes. I need to get that right. Do I,
Starting point is 00:31:45 do I use the pronoun for back when she presented as a woman? That's a good question. I don't know how that works. Is this time matter? Because I've had the Wachowski question for years and years and years, and I still don't think I don't know how I'm supposed to do it. when we talk about old stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Tully Zeril says yes, so I will say yes. Okay. So don't dead name. Retroactive. Okay. All right. Here is how Barry answered that question. It was a chess piece and she would knock it over to see the balance.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Mm-hmm. What chest piece was it? I think it was a rook. Oh, it was a bishop. What? Oh, a chest piece isn't enough. Chess piece wasn't enough. Wouldn't we?
Starting point is 00:32:30 That it was a bishop? Oh, man. Sorry, what was it a bishop? It was a bishop. A bishop. Oh, yeah, you always kick over the bishop. That's what I said. You always kick over the bishop.
Starting point is 00:32:39 So, Brian gets the point. That means it still stays with Scott. All right. I asked Barry, during Dom's dream sequence, on what floor does the elevator stop at limbo? So what button do you push in the elevator to go to limbo and housewares? Habadashery Um
Starting point is 00:33:00 Well I don't know that but I don't know that but I don't know He seems really really into this movie So I'm gonna say he does he knows Okay all right Fourth floor by the way is what we're looking for So let's see how he does
Starting point is 00:33:16 All right Tom's dream so they went down I'm gonna have to guess it was like negative four I'm gonna give it to it is the fourth floor negative positive very very European thing right that's right exactly
Starting point is 00:33:31 fourth basement I don't know yeah they went down four floor so you know what there you go if they were traveling on a number line they went negative four spaces oh nice I think probably because I felt bad about Bishop
Starting point is 00:33:45 I gave him negative four for fourth floor so you know who else felt bad about Bishop Sigourney Weaver as Ellen She would always feel bad about Bishop I just felt bad about Bishop. All right, so we're back to a tie game, two, two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:58 We're going back over to Brian for this one. I asked Barry, what composer wrote the music for Inception? Oh, you know, he doesn't, Barry hasn't struck me as a absolute specifics kind of guy. So I'm going to go with, he don't know this one. All right. All right. Okay. Scott thinks, Scott, I think, though.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think he absolutely will know. But let's see. All right. Let's see what he says. Let's see how we'll put money on it. This one I absolutely know, because like I said, I was floored by this music. It is Hans Zimmer. It is Hans Zimmer.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Very good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's some of his best freaking work, man. It's so freaking good. Barry even said in his intro how much he loved the music. So that should have been. Oh, so that's on me.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Oh, okay. That's on you. Hans Zimmer, baby. All right, Brian. We're coming back to you for this one because Scott's in the lead. I asked Barry, which alumnus of the Dark Knight trilogy played the role of Robert Fisher. So there's, it's Christopher Nolan, so there's a couple people, right,
Starting point is 00:35:00 that he pulled in from the Dark Night trilogy. But specifically, who played Robert Fisher, which is the owner of the head in which they go incepting? I think it's the correct term. Barry, Barry knows this one. Okay. Do you know it? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I think I know it. For Killian Murphy. Yeah, Killian Murphy, I was going to say. Yep. All right. Let's see how he did. Yeah, and he's got an unusual name. He does. Not to give anything away, but yes.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Yeah, that one, I don't know. Oh, man, it's Killian Murphy. Yeah. There you go. Yep. For a minute, I thought you were going to say his dad. I should have known because he said at the beginning. He said one.
Starting point is 00:35:46 No, Kaiser so said that dad. But play Killian Murphy. Right. No, it's, uh, you mean, uh, killing Murphy's dad. It's the guy who was in, like, all the action movies in the 80s and 90s. Yeah, and he's, he's the fake Kaiser, so say, for most of, uh, of that movie. He's, uh, oh, is he really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I forgot about that. He's in, uh, in the name of the father. He's the father in that movie. I can't think of his name. Gosh, dang it. He's shattered. He was in. Not Gabriel Byrne.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Uh, no. He's, he passed away, sadly, not long ago. and he was Paisalthwaite. Pete Possilthwaite. That's right. Oh, you know who that's right. He was Kobayashi. No, you know who I was thinking of was the other guy, the action movie guy. Oh, that's who I was thinking of. Right. Right. Similar dude, though. Similar dude. Yep. Yeah. Okay. That's funny. All right. So, Scott's got four. Brian's got two. Brian stays with this one. While nominated for seven Academy Awards, how many did Inception actually win?
Starting point is 00:36:48 at this point I don't even think I even know Barry Barry Barry so how do you think Barry knew this I don't recall Barry saying anything at the top of the show
Starting point is 00:37:04 such as he likes the music or I was really blown away by a number of awards I'm going to say knows it I think Barry knows this Okay. All right. Let's see if he knows that Inception won four awards, by the way, sound mixing, sound editing, visual effects, and cinematography. Let's see if Barry knows that. I believe they actually didn't get too many. I know the one that I was disappointed on is Christopher Nolan didn't get it for. I don't think he got it for director or, I'm not sure if he was nominated for director. They should have certainly got it for original screenplay and he did not. But I think they did get it for some visual effects. I'm going to say they only got one.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Okay. They actually got four Sound mixing, sound editing, visual effects as you know And then cinematography That means that Scott got the point Giving him five points, giving him the win And giving Amy Robinson a few things to drink Tea and coffee
Starting point is 00:38:04 That's right, Amy, how do you feel? You picked it right today, well done Woohoo! Yeah Very excited, very excited Yeah, you're not just very excited You're very excited, you're very excited Barry. And you know what? I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I've got four questions left. Let's have a little fun here. If you predict two of these correctly, Amy, I will add a steam game to your prize package. So we'll go through these quickly. I asked Barry if he knew the names of Dom's kids. Did he know that? Are you asking her or asked?
Starting point is 00:38:43 I'm asking Amy. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm going to say, yeah, but he knew that, yeah. All right, let's see how he did. There was Philippa and Michael. Oh, gosh, you got Philippa right.
Starting point is 00:38:58 James, James, James. Oh, you know what? I'll give it to you. You got it before I said it. Oh, well done. He said James before I said it, so I gave it to him. He squaws it in. According to Christopher Nolan, the third-tier dream involving the snow-covered
Starting point is 00:39:12 Mountain Shalet was inspired by which James Bond movie. Did he know which James Bond movie inspired that? Oh. Hmm. Interesting. He seems to really like Christopher Nolan. So he seems like the kind of person who would have, like, read, you know, like read the liner notes for lack of the better term. Watch interviews and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:39:36 All right. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll say yes. I'll say he knows that too. Okay. Well.
Starting point is 00:39:44 This is an area. I am not an expert in, so hopefully they picked that I didn't know it. Boy, it's going to be, well, let's pick one I know for sure it's not right. It's going to be Moonraker. There was snow. I think there was skiing in Moonraker. There might not. Well, maybe there wasn't.
Starting point is 00:40:04 On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Oh. Okay. One Lazenby bond. Oh, yeah. All right. So didn't get that one right. But you still have another couple chances to get this.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Amy? I asked him, who says the following line? Your condescension, as always, is much appreciated, Arthur. Thank you. Did he know that Eames said that? Yeah, I mean, he watched it a lot, so I'm going to say the dialogue is probably a pretty easy get for him. I realize I'm just guessing yes on all this, but he seems to really know the movie. Yeah. All right, let's hear how he did. That does sound like it was Eames. He's the counterfeiter. That is exactly right. It's absolutely Eames. Congratulations. Those two are awesome. I'm adding a steam game to the prize package and then there was one question left. I asked him which cast member of
Starting point is 00:40:54 Inception hosted Saturday Night Live twice first in 2009 and again in 2012? Anybody have a guess? Let's all guess. Which member of the cast? Yes, which member of the cast hosted SNL twice, first in 2009 and again in 2012?
Starting point is 00:41:10 I'm going to say, I bet it's Joseph Gordon Levitt if I had to guess. Thank you. my guess as well. That would be... All three of your guests would be that. Let's see if that's right. I'm going to guess Gordon Lovett?
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's exactly right. Good job. Does he go by Gordon? Gordon. I'm going to call him Gordon if I ever meet him. Gordon, I love your movies, Gordon. Well, the last name, Joseph Gordon Lovett. Because Gordon Lovett is the hyphenate and it's his last name.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Oh, that's right. I forget it's hyphenated. I always forget that. Yeah. Well, I'm going to call him Gordon anyway. I'm doing it no matter what. So very good. You guys all did really well, and Barry did really well on that.
Starting point is 00:41:47 So, congratulations. Amy, you get the prize. Scott, you win the game. And Brian, you win my admiration for just being who you are. Oh, that's fantastic. Well, Amy, I'm glad you won because, as you know, we're big fans of yours, and we're glad that you were a winner, winner, chicken dinner. Have a fantastic week.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And email Brian. He'll send you those codes. Send me your mailing address and I'll get coffee and tea out to you. That's right. at Coverville at gmail.com, and we'll see you soon. All right. That's right. Big thanks again to Phoenix Pearl Tea and Kahala Coffee roasters for their prizes today.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. I'm sad to lose, but glad when someone wins. Yes. Except Scott. I don't like it when he goes for me. Well, good, because I'm going to win tomorrow on our episode of the Boop Show. That's right. Me and Brian and Dunaway every Tuesday, we do a little show called The Boop Show.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And what is it about? Well, let me tell you. It's about video games, usually of the indie variety. A lot of weird stuff we find on Steam and other places that we end up recommending. Do you find folks if that sounds interesting to you? And you want to hear a couple of chuckleheads, laugh and have a good time, then go check it out. That's tomorrow afternoon at 3.30 Mountain Time live or you can just check the podcast out later, whatever you'd prefer. Brian, anything else you'd like to mention?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I'm playing a lot of Valheim this past weekend. Oh, yeah, Valheim. Yeah, Valheim, Valheim. I'm also playing, I think I'm bad at Valheim. oh i am absolutely bad at it and it is one of those games it's a survival game yeah it's core yeah uh and i i is what about one more that's what i keep doing it's like oh i'm almost done i'm just going to play for 10 minutes yep just one more one more rock that game one more uh you know one more one more thing have you bought have you fought any bosses yet or is it all just building
Starting point is 00:43:36 so far no i've only i haven't got to the first boss yet i did you if you fought the deer boss i think That's the first one? No, but apparently it's like super heavy metal and cool to see. Sweet. Yeah. Like the music gets real weird and it's like, uh, just like freaking Viking metal, like badass, awesome thing. Three million copies sold in three weeks on Steam. Yeah, they've done really well.
Starting point is 00:44:00 They've done really well. Uh, good on them. They're making a lot of money. Hey, Brian Donneway, uh, nothing but the best to you and yours and we'll see you next time. See you guys. Bye now. Wait. There it goes.
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Starting point is 00:44:50 For a limited time, receive 15% off when you use the promo code, Bacon 15. Get your official bacon merchandise today. Yeah, get your, get your bacon on, son. All right, check this out. A white male professor masqueraded as a female immigrant of color on Twitter to make sexist and racist comments. Great. Why would you do such a thing?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Well, let's find out. A white male, university professor. Boy, don't give that guy tenure. You know what I mean? Like... Yeah, don't even give him three year. Dude, strip him of his, like, sweater and his pipe or whatever bullshit idea of a professor I have on my head. He ripped those patches off the elbows of his jacket.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That's right. Take it away. Let's see here. He is quit after posing as a female immigrant of color on Twitter to make sexist and racist comments, as I already said in the headline. Why did they write that twice? I don't know. The assistant chemistry professor at the University of New Hampshire, that's where all the little hobbits live in America,
Starting point is 00:45:47 who The Daily Beast has identified, used the now deleted account, the science femme woman in STEM. I mean STEM research, I don't know. Oh, yes, STEM, yeah. I assume. And the Twitter handle, Piney the, whatever that is, according to the Portsmouth Herald.
Starting point is 00:46:05 They've ever been there? They were a customer, yes, I have been to the Portsmouth Herald. Yeah, all right, see. Look it does. Yes. I couldn't describe it, but I know they were a customer. I know they went there because that's when I, that was the day that I crossed New Hampshire off my list.
Starting point is 00:46:21 There you go. Portsmouth. I'd like to say it that way. Ports mouth. The account taken down on September 29th was routinely sexist, racist, and transphobic. He was also accused of attacking mostly women of color who disagree with him and encouraged his followers to do the same. In one tweet in his account to his 13,000 followers, he wrote the following.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Here it is. I was successful in killing my. my debt's woke statement oh my department sorry my department's woke statement on recent social unrest this took several weeks and may have permanently burned some bridges but i think it's important it's a toxic ideology that cannot be given an inch uh i'd like to pin this guy down and kick him in the nuts four times that's what i'd like to do yeah no kidding i hate stuff like At least he didn't say, well, I did it as a lesson for my students. I didn't mean any of the things I said, but it was all part of a lesson for my students. Safe. Chat room ass only kick him four times. I mean, maybe more.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm not a violent guy. Yeah. No, we'll hold him down for as many people want to kick him in that as possible. God just wants the first four. And everyone only gets four, but the line can be as long as we want it to be. Okay. That's right. Well, that guy's dumb and lame and should
Starting point is 00:47:33 Pay for his sense. Let's move on to take a break. We're going to take a break, and when we come back, our good pal Bill will be here. Then we got Steven Schleiker, who will join us as well. And we'll do the usual Monday business before all of that, a song selection from Brian Nibbitt's Vast Library. Oh, this is a good one.
Starting point is 00:47:52 So it is some heavy, dark and heavy rock. I'm bordering on heavy metal, but these guys are great. So this is, we're going to Norway for this. This one, a Norwegian Grammy Award-winning artist that performs as Arabrot, A-R-A-B-R-O-T. And there's a little icon over the A, a little circle that's, you know, I don't know what you'd call that. But they have a brand new album called Norwegian Gothic that just came out. It's really, really good. And this is their first single from the album.
Starting point is 00:48:21 There's a great video that goes along with it. Here is Erebrot and the song, Kinks of the Heart. Headly the circling, dry skeleton of a victory The Hacks and belly And the victim here Fries Lainte him fly Lost as it goes to
Starting point is 00:48:56 The arrows of the eye might tie your fruit now we can follow the face in here is blind and hear Christ Run around and go
Starting point is 00:49:17 The things of the heart You must You might follow The keys of the heart Dreaming I am in the Noges Shepherds of full-plice skills Another out for sacralies Moon-ta-silver on the face of hip thrice
Starting point is 00:49:51 Lighted here thrice Thunderflies to heavens Vile animals sentimental to this time before your eyes relenting here rise
Starting point is 00:50:09 You must round and goes The deans of the heart You must One light on The Kings of the Heart The King of the Heart
Starting point is 00:50:58 Dry skeleton A bay tree The lots and burning And the victim here Rights Victim here Christ The thunder blest the heavens
Starting point is 00:51:13 I can't see your Golly abounds Who have himself there Judas To stand up before your eyes Victim here Christ An erroneous
Starting point is 00:51:34 The Dings of the Heart You must swallow it all The piece of the heart Here must run away The case of the heart Carolyn and her mother have found one way a girl can repay a boy for entertaining her. A bite to eat at her house will save him money. Perhaps they'll bring another couple home with them.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That would be fun. And sometimes someone is stealing the pillows? The morning stream. A little dabble do you? All right. We are back, everybody. Welcome back to the program. Bring another couple home.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That'll be fun. Wouldn't that be fun? Sure would be. Man, I went down a rabbit hole on some... Every once in a while, I'll just find a batch of, like, PSAs from the 50s. Yeah. Like, so much great stuff. man we were weird then what a weird society people who made psa's believe some weird stuff they really
Starting point is 00:53:04 did and it's just so like i don't even know i don't even know how to describe it it's really really odd but whatever it makes for good fodder for the show i can tell you that for sure yeah all right we're going to bring bill in and do bill things and we're going to start with this your bat caves open there bill bill derand joining us all the way from punished props dot com and the greater Seattle area. Bill, welcome to the show. Good morning. All our snow is gone. Oh, I know. So is ours weirdly. We had a foot and a half the other day. Well, last week. It's gone now. Oh, yeah. Melty. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It's just like that. Basically, wherever people piled it up when they were shoveling snow, it's still there, but everywhere else is going over here. I went to the beach on Saturday. It was great. Oh, fun. It was cold. It was really cold. Yeah. And I didn't go swimming. you didn't get in there with your uh i don't know you're someone was there was a guy down the beach who was swimming uh polar bear society member yeah he had something to prove i think not me well good good for that guy i suppose but uh what's weird is all of that horrible snow ice and weather disruption in texas and and kind of down the middle of the country like that and today it's like 75 degrees no more snow it's all gone where was that last week
Starting point is 00:54:26 when we needed it right yes exactly anyway good luck to everybody down there and they're still dealing with the aftermath of that mess but at least it's warm again so uh in normal texas weather incoming anyway uh well bill it's good to have you here uh we always talk about cool stuff in the maker world and uh that's the world you inhabit so why don't you tell us what we're doing this week today i want to dive under the hood of the youtube game by the numbers because our youtube channel just crossed 50 million views. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Not a small number. No, it's very good. We've been at it for a while now. We're also pretty close to hitting 700,000 subscribers, which makes us the 36,832nd largest channel on YouTube. Whoa. Well, that's crazy. You really have those, they give you those numbers?
Starting point is 00:55:20 That's a thing you can get, those stats. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, we have some work to do, but look out number 36831 coming after you. Coming after you. It's a lot easier just to look at the next step in the ladder as opposed to looking at the top of the ladder. Yeah. So what's fun?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Something I started doing, I'm glad I did this when I started my channel. I keep track every year of all the stats of our channel. So every year I'm like, hey, how many videos do we publish? how many per week is that? How many new subscribers do we get? What's the growth percentage? How many views, that sort of stuff? How much money do we make?
Starting point is 00:56:01 All of that. I've been keeping track since we started our channel in 20, technically 2011. In December of 2011, I started my channel. And I figured we'd dive in. I think this is interesting stuff and people might get a pretty interesting perspective here. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Well, you've been out long enough. You've got lessons. So why not you? I do. And I have lots of data. Oh, data. That's great. So the channel was started in December of 2011, but I didn't post that first video until February 2nd of 2012.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And in that first year, I published 13 videos, and that earned me 195 subscribers. Nice. Now, and let's see, since then, we've published nearly 700 videos, so we've been busy. And as an example, the next year in 2013, we published 93 videos. So I jumped way up. Started publishing videos like crazy, and that scored us another 8,000 subscribers, which was really cool. And every year, for the most part, that number keeps going up. Although 2020, not so much, but there's a lot of disappointing things about 2020.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. Got a whole list going right now. Yeah, absolutely. So the first year, you know, 13 videos got us 200 subscribers. Another 100 videos got us 8,000. the next year we did another 100 videos. We got another 11,000 subscribers, and it keeps going up and up and up.
Starting point is 00:57:26 That consistency really paid off. Oh, that's what I was going to ask. You think the early lesson on all of that is just consistency means consistent growth, at whatever rate, if you just keep putting up content, whether it's exponential growth or just trickling either way, you're going to grow because you're consistent. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And especially if you're learning, getting started, might as well make a lot, make a lot of videos. Just get a lot of practice, repetition. in fact in 2016 we were making we were averaging more than three videos per week which if I'm being honest was a little crazy yeah yeah it's a it's a very tough bar to set for yourself to maintain yeah too much uh and ever since then every year our number of videos has gone down which is really interesting to see it climb up and then fall back down again as we sort of figure out what pace is good for us right um
Starting point is 00:58:20 I didn't even start tracking how much money we made until 2015. So I had been running this channel for three years before I was like, hey, we're making any money? And in that first year, or in 2015, we made $2,500 in ad revenue. That's not bad. Now, I made a 105 videos. So that's about $25 per video. Yeah. And I'm here to tell you, I put a lot more than $25 worth of work into every one of those videos.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yeah. Your hourly rate on those videos, not great if you look at it from that perspective. Not at all. Oh, Brian and I know all about this. Like how to make sure you get the most hours for the least amount of ask. Oh, we're all about that here. We're all about doing a monthly, a monthly Patreon for a show that happens five days a week. We know exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:59:13 So good news, though, is the hard work did pay off. I mean, it's picked up in the last few years, except for 2020, and that was a little slow. But nowadays, our channel can drag in between 25 and 35,000 a year. And that's just an ad revenue. And that we're talking like 11 million or 13 million views a year. We'll get you that kind of money. And here's the problem. Those videos take even more, like our videos nowadays take so much work to produce.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's just a lot, but they're good. We like it that bank. But everything else in our life and our business is more expensive. We have a shop with rent that we have to pay. That's a lot. I like to get paid. Brittany enjoys getting paid. And our employee enjoys getting paid.
Starting point is 01:00:03 All of those things you can see quickly take $25,000 a year and just make it vanish. Sure. Just evaporate. Yeah, poof. So I think it's a good lesson. to learn that for anyone who's thinking about starting a YouTube channel, that even if your channel quote makes it, right, you have hundreds of thousands of subscribers, that ad revenue, unless you're getting lots of views per video, is a hard thing to count on. And we don't count it. We don't
Starting point is 01:00:36 count it on it. We treat it as extra. I don't call it as gravy. Yeah. Yeah. So it's nice. It helps, but it isn't enough to run this company. So we actually make. most of our money from our store on our website where we sell our books and all kinds of other stuff and Patreon and YouTube memberships are what we call our extra credit club. That money is far more consistent, especially
Starting point is 01:00:58 the membership stuff. And then the store stuff is great because I have control over that. If I am like, hey, I need to get work done on my car. Guess we'll just have a sale on our website. Books are $5 off for a week. Make a little extra money.
Starting point is 01:01:13 We have control over that. And that makes me feel a lot better. You also have control over whether or not if your store grows, it's because you've done, you've made the right moves, put up the right stuff, changed up the selection, done the right sales at the right time. Yeah. Like it means you're actually doing, you're running your store well if you have growth on that store, whereas ad revenue from whatever source is just spotty and random and you
Starting point is 01:01:40 can't control it. It is, uh, um, it is susceptible to the, um, it is susceptible to the, the whims of advertisers whether or not they want to buy ads. So, like, January is generally really bad because after the holidays, ad buyers don't want to buy ads. Like, we already sold all our Chotsky's for Christmas.
Starting point is 01:01:58 We're going to take a break in January. Yeah. So, ad revenue drops off historically in January every year. So you can count on that, but also have something else to replace it. Really good. Sure, sure. Which is what we try and do.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You know, we have lots... We're always trying to do stuff with the Patreon stuff and our own store. And we also have our books on Amazon. That helps a lot too. But that stuff I can count on. And that feels a lot better. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:24 But it is definitely very interesting to look back to the last 10, almost 10 years of YouTube and see how this spreadsheet I have kind of tracks my behavior. It's really interesting. The most ridiculous thing here is how I started at 13 videos a year. I crept up to 171 videos a year. And then last year I published 15 videos.
Starting point is 01:02:45 a year. Oh, wow. That is weird. Yeah, it sort of came back around. And we want to publish more than that, obviously, but, you know, pandemic. Yeah. Stupid pandemic, I always say. Now, that, that said, though, last year, I made more money per video than any year in the past. Yeah. Because we published some of you. People stuck at home. Yeah. We made, we published a few videos, but people still kept watching, you know? Gotcha. Right. So the, the, the video to revenue. Right. Right. And this is also super deep in the weeds, but the more traction you get, the more dollars you get per view.
Starting point is 01:03:22 So, back in 2015, I was making about $0.0012 per view. And now I'm making 0.0029. Oh, per view. That's more than a quarter of a penny. Wait.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Is that? I'm not sure. Yeah, that's more than a quarter of a penny. About a quarter of a penny per view. We have... That's probably a quarter of a penny. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, thanks for the clicks, everybody. Quarter of a penny. You don't even get Abe Lincoln's full face in a quarter of a penny.
Starting point is 01:03:53 No, certainly not. Just the nose. Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, like, there is a feeling out there of, boy, if I can just hit this user threshold on YouTube or any, whatever platform, that it's just smooth sailing from there. And I remember you saying an early edition of this, of this, or of this segment.
Starting point is 01:04:15 something about how you don't want to consider that or any other place like you're the only basket you're going to put your eggs in. Absolutely, yeah. You got to spread it around and diversify how you deliver your content
Starting point is 01:04:29 to however people want to get that content. And YouTube, you know, for some people, maybe in your case, maybe it's the prominent outlet, but you're still got to have these other things in play, these other spinning plates or else
Starting point is 01:04:43 it just isn't going to work. And I think that's true, kind of across the board, for artists, for Etsy creators, for whatever kind of thing you're making, you know, be it this ephemeral sort of internet stuff or physical things you're shipping to people or whatever, you kind of have to think that way or else you get in trouble. Now you're starting to sound like one of my favorite people, Nicole Spagnola, who is responsible for teaching me a lot of this stuff. I just didn't mess up any names. I wish I would have thought about it before I started
Starting point is 01:05:14 talking because I would have it would have been fun anyway no but that's great uh very cool uh grats by the way on such a long run so far that's awesome yeah always keep doing it uh any uh bonus content you brought with us to with you today absolutely speaking uh big youtube channels um and and also this this uh i know channels that are 10 times bigger than mine that still deal with this stuff like like you were saying there is no threshold over which unless you're you're saying there is no threshold over which your PewDiePie maybe you can be like we're good now we're fine
Starting point is 01:05:47 speaking of giant channels my friend Jazza made a cool video so this is another channel he has it's called Tabletop Time so if you're into painting D&D minis and doing tabletop stuff that's the place to go and he's
Starting point is 01:06:02 really Marvel Crisis Protocol Middies he just started using this channel again big time and he put out a video where he made a diorama using UV curing
Starting point is 01:06:13 curing resin to do water effects, and it's very, very cool. Oh, look at these. Oh, that's so cool. You know, I need to do more with the clear resin with the resin printer. I pretty much use gray, then prime it, and then they're just going to go right up the butt of that mini there at the beginning. Yeah, it looked like Grimmis. That was like Grimmis's butt. Tyler Grimis's butt, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah, there's enough for that in our lives. well that's fantastic oh this is interesting they went and found like uh like dime store dinosaurs and and stuff to build their thing yeah i'm watching oh because they're ripping the pieces apart uh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's hilarious right back to that butt again geez yeah the butt gets featured prominently really does it's just right there it's got a good shine on it's got a couple of good highlights they used a good gloss paint on that well when i first saw it i thought it was actually a light in the room that was reflecting
Starting point is 01:07:11 off of it, but it's not. He's painted it and the paint. Yeah, the highlights are painted. It's really good. That's a really well done job. Anyway. Oh, look at this and he's doing with the particle board. Yeah, like ripping it apart by hand to make a rocky texture. That is amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:28 It's really good stuff, yeah. So yeah, the channel's called Tabletop Time. It's run by our buddy Jazz or the illustrator. If you look up UV resin for his diorama, you'll find it's neat. And I'm sure lots of other people are using this UV resin
Starting point is 01:07:42 to make cool stuff too. That's really cool. Although I don't know why this pantsless guy is going after this fish, but whatever. Well, that's great. Bill Durand,
Starting point is 01:07:54 it is always a pleasure to talk to you. And I'm glad you're doing well. Everyone check out his stuff. Punish Props.com. There's no in there. And I put that in. Also, the YouTube channel,
Starting point is 01:08:06 which you can just find by searching for punish props. You'll run right in. into it. Bill Duran, uh, chin beard on Twitter. Have a fantastic week. You too. Bye. See you next Monday.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Bye. Bye. Um, okay. After the show, remind me to tell you that's something. Okay. Just remember to say, hey, Scott, you told me to tell you something and you're, you're going to tell me that my butt's just as shiny as grimace, right? That's, that's, uh, and that yours is also done with paint.
Starting point is 01:08:31 It's an illusion. Yep. Yep. resin. Resin. Brin's resin ass. Mm. Resin ass.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Resin ass. Resin ass. All right, major spoilers coming in. Excited to talk to Stephen. I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know if you saw. I made a change. He texted us both, and I put what he texted in the show notes.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Oh, I missed that. I tried to run away. We're calling an audible, and instead of talking about what he said to talk about Wanda Vision. Oh, well, let's see how this goes. Stephen Schleiker. Stephen Schleiker. Hey, look who it is. It's Steven Schleiker all the way from Hayes, Kansas.
Starting point is 01:09:05 What's going on? Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian. Hey, hello. It's cold. my office. Hey, let me tell you this. I really enjoyed being a guest on your, uh, your lecturey thing last week for your class. That was great. Thank you for having me on there. And then Friday we had, uh, Chip Mosier, who is the, uh, head of content at comicsology come in and talk
Starting point is 01:09:24 about working in a company and how, uh, dealing with the Amazon environment and those kind of things. So that was really fun and cool. Did that one kid go? Not that I'd ever want to do this or anything, but he had a lot of there's something I don't understand. Can you answer this question for me? Because I don't understand. It's all right. That's why you're there. That's why you're there to shape these young minds and prepare them for the next generation of leadership.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Right. Well, you miss the best part where he came out, I think, on Wednesday and said, I make it a point to never talk to women. Oh, great. Great. That's that same kid, right? It's the same kid. Yeah. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Everyone keep an eye on him. We need to keep a dossier. He's going places. I don't know where, but he's definitely going places. It's going to get weird. Anyway, hey, it's good to have here. I did not see the audible. My text, for whatever reason, thing.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Oh, no, that's fine. Open. That's all right. That's what I'm here for is to put that stuff in the chat, so you don't have to worry about it. Well, and a lot of this came from pre-show talk. So people who are listening who are not part of the Patreon feed where you get all the, all the pre-show talk, you need to sign up. So you can hear what we're going to, in context, what we're talking about. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I did want to just make one tiny note, though, about the thing we were going to talk about. I've been reading Constantine books. Yes. And I didn't know there was a series happening at HBO Max. So I just wanted to put it out there that I'm excited. It's in the works. Okay. I'm down. They don't have anybody really attached to it. It hasn't been given a green light. So if they do this right and HBO Max is the place for this. Oh man. There's the thing. They already did a Constantine series over on NBC. Yeah, but it was poop because it was NBC. And then they had to take that guy and then they had to take that guy and put him on Legends of Tomorrow
Starting point is 01:11:11 because everyone thought he was so good at it. He was really good at it. He was, but it's just one of the best reasons to watch Legends of Tomorrow. I agree, but the problem is it's NBC, it's milk-toasty, it's, it's, they hold back on the network television and I hate it. Constantine is freaky and weird.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Right. It can't be on a, it can't be on a sanitized network television network. I agree. It has to be on something where you can go go weird. Yeah, go weird, go dark. like take you to go places with that character and if they if they do that hey hire the guy again that's fine get him in there i mean that that would be the perfect choices to just move him over but apparently
Starting point is 01:11:50 this series is going to be his younger years when he was uh slumming it in uh in london and getting involved in all the the the devil work and all that stuff back then well that is interesting as well just from a story perspective but you know i'm just saying if everyone's if everyone's going to lose sleep over it not being that same actor i say just hire him even if you only use them a couple of times for forward flashes or something. I don't know. Yeah, little kids running through the museum and all of a sudden they run into old Constantine, who's just sitting there.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Let me tell you a story about when I was younger. Yeah, that's right. The young Constantine Chronicles. There'll be a lot of chatter and says how much smoking will they'll be. Oh, there'll be a lot. Constantine? Lots of smoke. I mean, that's one of the key elements in the Constantine.
Starting point is 01:12:30 When you look at his big giant arc is the smoking comes around and has some consequences that he then has to make some deals to get out of. Yeah. And that is a really cool story arc if anybody wants to read that one. It's very good. And also, can we get Keanu Reeves to guest star in this just because of the one Constantine movie thing he made? We could just have him show up for a minute. Just a little nudge to the fans.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Yeah. Or get Peter Stormair or who else was in that? I really like the Constantine movie. It's not great for like Pyrus, but it's a fun movie. Who was the angel? Wasn't it, Galadriel from the Hobbit? Oh, Tilda Swinton is who that. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. I was confused those two when I'm thinking of the roles. But yes, Tilda Swinton was the angel and had her wings all hacked off. And oh, man. So cool. What a cool movie. Anyway, so we're not talking about any of that, though. Instead, no, let's talk about milk toast networks that aren't going to rock the boat.
Starting point is 01:13:29 So I know that I didn't see. So I'm just behind. The weekend was busy. I didn't get a chance to see Wanda Vision. I'm going to watch today. We understand, Scott. I don't have her. problem. You did have a lot of things going on this week. I did have a lot going on. I had a really busy. I had a really busy weekend. Busy week, busy weekend. However, I have zero problems with spoilers. So if we want to talk about it, we totally can. Because you guys So Brian and I texted a little bit because as soon as I finish watching them, first thing I do is text Brian. Did you watch it? Yeah. Yeah. And I love that. So, so they do reveal. Hold on before you say anything, chat room. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You are worried about spoilers. I'm going to try to keep it as Spoiler-free is possible.
Starting point is 01:14:09 All right. But just know, it's possible. But here's the thing I want to say. Yeah. Yes. If you want to pause or come back later or whatever, here's the thing I want to say. They reveal who we believe is the big bad. And they tell you it was this person all along.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I mean, literally there's a song about it was this person all along. Okay. Yes. And part of me is like, well, this is very Marvel. Because when you try to set up a story where you're going to introduce somebody that is a bad person, And you don't want somebody to suddenly step out from behind a curtain and go, it was me all along. And they're like, who are you?
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah. It's kind of like that time that Lex Luthor in the, in the Justice League animated series, where Lex Luthor jumped into the body of the flash. And he's like, now I will find out who you are. And he pulls off the mask and he goes, I have no idea who you are. And so, you know, Marvel plays it smart by saying, oh, yeah, it was this person all along. And it's the person that has been there in the front all along. And most people who are savvy on the comics understand that it was this.
Starting point is 01:15:06 person all along and people who are not savvy on the comics are going oh well this makes sense as opposed to pulling out and again i don't know if mefisto is going to turn out to be the big bad he may still show up in this but my guess is disney being disney they're not going to have the devil show up as being the big bad in their tv series it does seem a little antithetical to their uh their their their their so so who did that so wait a minute who did they show because i actually don't know i guess somebody that's been there the entire time. Someone who's been there the whole time. So Nora from Nick and Nora's Infinite playlist is the big badge. She's finally coming out. Somebody whose name could be
Starting point is 01:15:44 split apart to fit a character that's in the Marvel universe. And Benedict Wong coming back. No? That's right. Randall Park actually turned out to be the big bad. Oh, man. Magic. So, but here's the thing. Here's the thing that I think is really fun about this is that for seven weeks now, everyone has been speculating, ooh, is it this person?
Starting point is 01:16:10 Ooh, is it this person? Have you heard about this person? Because they're the basis for the vision's entire personality. Maybe it's that person. If you look in this clip, you can see where the picture is hanging in the background. Maybe it's going to be Swamp Thing. Maybe it's Mephisto. The hexes means something.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And, you know, part of that, part of the fun in the speculation is talking with others and communicating with others and sharing ideas and saying, ah, that one doesn't really sound right or, oh, maybe it is. I remember we do our Dueling Review podcast live for our Discord server on Thursday nights. And Matthew and I spent like a half hour like two weeks ago just going off on what we thought was coming up in the next couple of episodes of Wanda Vision. And we just had a geek out fun time where we were just talking about this like you might if you were in a comic shop and, you know, people were open-minded. And it was just, it was fun. And I think that that's kind of the whole point. of this is that
Starting point is 01:17:06 we've had six, seven weeks of speculation and now it finally comes out and they're written now, everyone could go, oh, yeah, yeah, was this person all along? Oh, it makes perfect sense. Okay. And I think, Brian, are you that same way? Or do you get ramped up about the speculation part
Starting point is 01:17:19 of the adventure? Absolutely. And I don't mind if, you know, if I throw out wild theories and they don't go anywhere. I like, you know, I do like watching after I've seen an episode, occasionally going on to YouTube
Starting point is 01:17:32 and watching 18, Easter eggs you missed in the latest episode. Because maybe one of those actually pans out, but it's always you know, some dude with a surprised face who's outlined with a thick white border around his body Another one of those! I hate him
Starting point is 01:17:48 so much! You know, expression on his face, yeah. I hate him. There's a, come on people, there's a formula. I'm sure that that somehow, there's somebody's done the math and they'll somehow grab people, but they must, right, they must call attention.
Starting point is 01:18:03 What we need to do, Scott, we need to do that for TMS videos. All right. Just have us going and have us outlined with a thick white border and then say 12 things you missed in the latest TMS. I think we'll finally hit it big on YouTube. I'm really excited. We'll finally get, we'll start seeing those bill numbers. Well, all right. Let me ask you this, Stephen, because I kept hearing stuff on the side.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And I don't know if this was just simultaneously happening during the day that the new episode came out and it just was happenstance. or if it had something actually to do with it? And I was sort of like, do I want to know about this? Should I dig deeper? Should I just wait and see it? But I heard all this Reed Richards talk. Was that? Yeah, that goes.
Starting point is 01:18:42 So a lot of people, and I even thought about this too. And I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago that, you know, Monica and Jimmy Wu were going to go meet her aerospace engineer friend. And everybody was just like aerospace engineer friend. You mean, Reed Richards was going to show up in this? I mean, they did say there was going to be a big Luke Skywalker moment. in this show maybe this is it and no that didn't pan out i think that made a lot of people upset but again read richards isn't part of this cinematic universe he is part of some other company's universe
Starting point is 01:19:14 and so if you're going to have him come in you need to have him come in through some multi multiverse channel you know some kind of hub some kind of nexus where people might be able to to step out from uh in in in forward the story so yeah i mean it was fun to speculate that maybe Reed Richards was going to show up then, but I think that that was probably a little hopeful and wishful thinking. And there was all, and tied to it was a bunch of people petitioning basically to get John Krasinski to be
Starting point is 01:19:44 the new Reed Richards, which I think is actually pretty great. That would be perfect. If you've seen Krasinski lately in his beard and his sort of buffed outness, he'd make a perfect, Reed Richards. Perfect. He'd be dead on. But I kept seeing these posts going wait is he in the credits or something did he show up in this episode like i couldn't tell so i feel finally i got some resolution here because i thought there was all kinds of weird
Starting point is 01:20:11 gangly stuff happening over the weekend and apparently none of that happened what was the end credits thing i keep hearing about speak yeah speaking which there is a scene after the end credits which is the first one that i'm aware of for this season although we do we do leave it on because there is so much disney plus has so much stuff at the end of like all right here are the regular credits now here all the different credits for each localization, language localization that when you, if you stop after the regular credits, you
Starting point is 01:20:38 look on there, it's like, oh, there's still four minutes of show left. And then you go back and it's like all these credits for all these different languages for the dubbing. But there is an end credits scene that you need to make sure you watch. Okay. Yeah. And it's not really a super surprise, although it does
Starting point is 01:20:54 feature two characters that you've seen throughout the show kind of bumping into each other. Oh, really? Okay. And one of those characters, this is one of the things that you and I talked about over text, Stephen, I am so happy that they are acknowledging this person's role in the MCU and what they become and how they're getting us there. Even if it's not the regular origin, they're still getting us there, and I'm so happy about that. Yeah, that is the other thing I really liked about this series is not only is it just, hey, we need something to get to the next big thing, which is, Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness, but it's also an origin story for a superhero that will show up in the next installment of a particular other movie that will be coming down the pipe. Yeah, it's pretty great.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So I think that that's really cool. It's really cool to see them doing this just like at all. Like, I already was, I was already kind of amazed over the last 10 years at how Marvel did what it did with the MCU and did so successfully. And so even when they had hiccups with a couple of movies that aren't stellar, it didn't matter. like they just they just did amazing things with marvel and then to parley that into television and pull people from the films to that and then have that all connect somehow and then have it pull back out into a movie eventually like this is all so rad yeah what a cool time to be alive man like you couldn't you wouldn't have convinced me of this stuff go find me when
Starting point is 01:22:23 I'm 14 and try to convince me this was going to happen I wouldn't have believed you I'd have been like the other question yeah the other question is how many episodes are there originally there were supposed to be seven then there was eight i'mdb today and it lists nine but it doesn't list run times of those final two oh yeah there's only two left someone in the chat center they're not three correct right yeah there's two two left and uh i mean again people were basing so much on somebody very early on saying there's about six hours of show runtime and if that's the case then yeah those last two episodes are going to have to be a little longer hour and a half long each which i don't see
Starting point is 01:23:00 I can see, you know, maybe they do need a lot extra to wrap up on that very last episode, but I'd be totally happy with that. You don't make them as long as you need to make them, and I will watch the whole damn thing. Now, a lot of people are still talking about, oh, this big Luke Skywalker moment. I think we've already seen the big Luke Skywalker moment, although I'm still holding out hope for the Captain America guy. What is the name, Chris Evans? Chris Evans. Chris Evans, where he says news to me that Captain America is going to show up in WandaVision. that still, you know, leaves the door open for, hey, look at Johnny Storm walking through the...
Starting point is 01:23:34 Dude, I would lose my shit if he shows up as Johnny Storm. I would lose my mind. That would be so great. Oh, my gosh, I would love it. Because it would mean so many, so many cool things. Number one, getting the Fantastic Four officially into the MCU and also just seeing Chris Evans playing that character again. Yeah, like even if it's just a fluky, like you said, combining of universes and it's temporary and whatever the Fantastic Four is in the MCU is different or whatever. just to do that crossover
Starting point is 01:24:01 and I know that they've got the mind for it because they did it with Quicksilver why couldn't they do it again and ah that would be amazing and I hate those movies those movies are bad Scott will never find out
Starting point is 01:24:12 because he'll never watch another episode of Wanda Vision whatever I'm just I'm only one behind so I'm watching it today and it'll be great it's a good episode Scott you'll really I think you'll really enjoy it there's some this is an episode that you know I thought the very first episode
Starting point is 01:24:27 has some very creepy moments This episode, I love how they, how they pitch it as a, not really, you know, the breaking the fourth wall, I think is the title of the episode. Yeah. But there are some legit, scary moments in this episode, especially when it comes to what happens to the kids. Ooh. All right. Well, you even told me. And the TV show that they, uh, they dial into, or the two TV shows they dial into, I think are just great choices.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah, yeah. laughing right off the bat about specifically what I think are the two TV shows they bought one of them is pretty obvious just from the opening music and some of the some of the way that they try to do the Mize and Scene documentary style is very
Starting point is 01:25:13 very on point so yes well that's how you know for both of them that's how you know we're getting that's how you know we're getting toward the end of the series though because the further in the future they get with like sitcom types the closer we get to you know
Starting point is 01:25:28 I think I would never got a Seinfeld or a friends oh man oh you know what I kind of would have liked that I would love a Seinfeld version of that get out vision I didn't even think about that that's right they did kind of they did kind of jump over
Starting point is 01:25:47 they skipped the 90s I would argue they went late 90s and went right to like Malcolm in the middle style and then forward so it's too bad there could have been a great little coffee shop diner in Westview that they could have hung out at damn I love it all right well more on that next week
Starting point is 01:26:06 and also the one other thing that we weren't going to talk about today is the trailer park boys are getting a comic book treatment and we probably don't have to say much more than that no more could be said it's a little odd there was there was something that you talked about in the pre-show Scott about watchman The character of the question reminds you a lot of Rorschach. And there's a very specific reason for that is because Rorschach is based on the question.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Really? And this goes back, this goes all the way back to Charlton Comics, which was a 1947 company, ran from 1947 to like 1986 before it went out of business. And one of the things that they were trying to do in order to save the company is they sold off their superhero line to D.C. comics. And so in their due, that included Blue Beetle, both. versions, Dan Garrett and Tedcord, Captain Adam, Nightshade, Peacemaker, The Question, and Thunderbolt, Peter Cannon, a little bit more on him a little bit later. But then when Alan Moore was doing The Watchman, he wanted to use all the original Charlton character. So instead of Night Owl, you could have gotten both versions of Blue Beetle. Instead of Dr. Manhattan, it would
Starting point is 01:27:11 have been Captain Adam. Instead of Silk Spector, it would have been Nightshade and comedian would have been peacemaker and the question would have been, you know, Roershack would have been the question in Ossemaneus would have been Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt. I had no idea. The problem was, D.C. was like, we kind of have plans for these characters after Crisis on Infinite Earths. And if we let Alan Moore do this, we can't use those characters. Yeah. And so Alan Moore just said, okay, fine. I'm going to just basically use everything that I love about these guys, but a different trench coat for Roershack. A different face for Worshack.
Starting point is 01:27:44 What a, I'm just going to say this. That is a happy accident because what makes those characters so. amazing in that in in in watchmen is that they are familiar right they have some familiarity but they are so distinctly also their own thing like dr manhattan rorschach those two examples just alone are amazing and i'm so glad they're not something else like well if you go back and read some of the original charlton stuff you can see a lot of the steve didco influence in both the original characters and how they appeared in the watchman script in the rachman book but also you can see how much they changed once they went over to dc comics yeah yeah that's true i actually have cued up a blue beetle a more a modern like 2016 or something run oh man the hyme rea's blue beetle is my
Starting point is 01:28:36 favorite blue beetle run i'm gonna it is so good i've got that it's funny that's the one i have queued up i'm gonna yeah now i would read the the original blue beetle run pre 52 no maybe it's right after 52 when that Blue Beetle run started. That's where I would start because I think that's the best run of the series. The one that I think you're about to read feels like a remix or a rehash of that first run. And I don't think it worked as well. Okay. Well, and the Blue Beetle, that's Ringo, right? He's the Blue Beetle. Just kidding. All right. Hey, that's a screaming mean. Hey, you want to feel old? I got a funny thing
Starting point is 01:29:09 to tell you. I saw this yesterday. Taylor Swift had a birthday. She is now older than any of the Beatles were when they broke up. Oh, wow, really? Yeah. Isn't that weird? She's older than any of them were at the time that they called it quits, which just tells you what an amazing, successful early career the Beatles had, I guess. Because they were barely 30 when they all get out of there.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Anyway, fun little side note has nothing to do with anything. Hey, well, that's about it, I guess, for this. Stephen, once again, the place to go is major spoilers.com for more great comic book industry coverage as well as other nerdy stuff and TV and film and otherwise. What's going on over there that we should be looking for? I think this week you should probably check out the comics you want to
Starting point is 01:29:54 or so you want to read comics section if you're new to comics where Jonathan suggests a couple of comics based on a theme. This week's theme is Road Trips. And so he's got a couple of comic collections for you to check out if you want to get into comics and that is a theme that is something you're interested in.
Starting point is 01:30:10 So hold on. Road trips is the theme of the comic books not? No. Yeah. trip is the theme of the comic book so i'll just give one of them away the the hard traveling heroes the green lantern green arrow from the 1970s gotcha is part of that theme so gotcha okay not necessarily comics for a good road trip no no no okay all comics are good for road trips as far as i'm concerned yeah they are or a plane trip or if you're not driving soaking in the trope to that's right if you're driving maybe not so much but and if you don't get carsick when you try and read while somebody else is driving oh i feel so bad my wife can't
Starting point is 01:30:40 she can't she can read for about four seconds and then she's super carcinna not me though I can read for days. All right, excellent stuff. Major spoilers on Twitter. Stephen, have a fantastic week. Stay hydrated. Bye now. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:55 I am hydrated. I got a little water here. See? Mm-hmm. Mm. Oh, yeah. See? You put a little water in you and you fill the hydration at work.
Starting point is 01:31:06 It's great. It's fantastic. It's like one of those commercials where the blue lines start going through the cutaway of your body to show you actually getting hydrated. Yeah, yeah. I love those. That's how it works. I love the headache ones too where it's like,
Starting point is 01:31:18 yeah. A little red dot will go right up to the top of your head. Yep. Uh-huh. It's great. Everything we learned was simple. It's how buddies work. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:29 We're going to do a Monday, Monday, Monday morning mashup. That's right. This was sent in to us via TMS mashups. Jamie made this, of course, as he always does. Taking a break from our compilation of accents. We'll start those up again tomorrow. but today our mashup is called Penelope and as usual we don't know why so let's find out right now hey Zeus come in Zeus no I think it's hey Zeus oh hey Zeus come in he's not answering
Starting point is 01:32:00 Borka Borka Borka Borka and then they leave it there and you just grab it and go I belong to the church of the smoking of the pot Cee You just smoke the pot. Do you find it offensive when people call you bald? Yeah. Do people call you bald? They can, and I have absolutely no problem with it because it's, you know. Most things won't offend me personally.
Starting point is 01:32:23 But I'm more than just my baldness, okay? There's more to me than just a lack of chair, a lack of hair. Lack of chair. He established some company called Magnifico. Magnifico. This is more like Magnifica. I'm just a poor boy, please give me a lot. I need a mansion, 1050 cars, please.
Starting point is 01:32:42 No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Is this dungeon keeper? Because I played that game before. That's not what this is. Who is this fictitious game player that you're impersonating? I don't know. It's not very good.
Starting point is 01:32:54 I can tell you that. I'm just a poor, but with 400 employees, you're just an idiot who's going to buy a Maserati. It's close. Have you seen Bill? It's the Minionette. Where's he at right now? Yeah, where's Bill the minion? We need him because he has firefingers.
Starting point is 01:33:10 It says maybe some people decided to ditch the week. weekend's performance. I can't feel my junk when I'm with you. Got a locker. I can barely tell, like, how thick it is. I got the crunch wrap Supreme. I got a little taco on the side. Don't ever tell your wife you got a little taco on the side.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Don't ever tell you got a little on the side. Yeah, you got a little taco on the side. Hey, hey, honey, I got a little taco on the side. You have what? What? Well, here's a cat. He's, uh, Penelope. Penelope wave to the night people.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Yes. You are not menticor, are you? He had a penis. He had a man penis. Your sweet little girl, Penelope. Siegfried, it's time to go on stage, yeah! You know what she was quoted as saying. Somebody found an upper decker in her house, and she said,
Starting point is 01:33:50 oops, I did it again, she said. Did she say that? Oops, I did it again. Yeah, and then they went to another bathroom. She said, oh, baby, one more time. That was a good ad on. Thanks. That was good.
Starting point is 01:34:05 I still not know what the Penelope thing was about, except there it is. Yeah, it was, we just needed a, we needed a new, tiger name after Manticore. Yeah, I guess so. Oh, yeah, we're talking about tigers. It was just a random name. Very well done, Jamie, as always. Excellent, excellent work.
Starting point is 01:34:24 A reminder that soundography happened. Brian, tell me more. It did, and I got to tell you, I listen to every song by typo negative. Oh, man. And I've got some things to say. Mm-hmm. But you're not going to hear it here. You're going to hear it over on soundography.
Starting point is 01:34:42 soundography.com if you want to hear our latest episode where Hammond and I listen to every song by typo negative and you can hear what we thought about that sort of thing. It strikes me that that may have been one of Hammond's picks, right? It might have been, although he was rough for
Starting point is 01:34:58 him too. I'm familiar with them because of their great cover of Summer Breeze by Seals and Crofts, which is a bizarre thing for them to cover. It's really good. But we decide, all right, well, let's listen to the rest of it. And there might be some surprises in they're about how we felt about it.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Okay. All right. Well, then color me intrigued. Go check it out. Soundography available now, wherever you get your podcasts. And if you missed the World of Warcraft Q&A that I moderated last week, you can still get it in archive form over on the blizzcon.com site. So if you wanted to hear that and see how it went, you can go check it out.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I understand this one. They've put up a new version that eliminated the mouth noises from one of our guest mics. did they did um which at first was wow so they had to do that via different channels right well yes and we did we were recording different channels we had a really cool audio set up going on and that's why i'm surprised it got in but also they had to okay here's a little secret to the sauce yeah we recorded this ahead of time not by much but enough time for them to uh you know make sure we didn't have any outages power isp they got to be able to control that stuff so we recorded this before the live air time, but wanted it to feel, you know, raw.
Starting point is 01:36:17 There's not like a ton of editing or anything, but I think they just missed it because it was just crunch time. It's just so much, only so much you could do. But here's what's funny. This is why people, I think this is why the world gets so conspiratorial about things. They, as soon as everything of the con was done, it was up an archive form, except for the Q&A, because they were going to go back and eliminate those mouth noises. but the players were like,
Starting point is 01:36:44 what happened to the Q&A? Why isn't it up there? What do you think they're trying to hide? Do you think they're taking something out there? Yeah, they all had these conspiracies about a question got removed or they let something slip they weren't supposed to
Starting point is 01:36:54 or something like that. Oh, no, they told us about Andoan. No, no, they weren't supposed to. Yeah, and they're like, no, they just were fixing some audio issues is not a big deal. So anyway, but it was meant to seem, not seem, like for all intents and purposes,
Starting point is 01:37:09 we did it live. the reason for doing it ahead of time was to just be sure we didn't have a I mean if you have a failure a massive failure live let's say my internet goes out that's bad so exactly no it makes it makes absolute sense why you do that there's there's no reason you're not interacting with the live watchers so there's no reason to take that risk and do it live no we wanted we wanted to be able to give that feeling of like you know I'm asking questions in real time and they're answering them in real time And we're not editing questions. We're not editing answers. And that, we did. We did. We maintained that. And that was good enough.
Starting point is 01:37:48 So, anyway, if you missed it, you can go see the whole thing now. It's up and cool. So go check it out. I really had a good time doing it. I can't, I can't wait, though, for the next expansion when you're going to face a boss. The first boss in the first raid is going to kill you with mouth noises. Like, oh, my God, you have behind a pillar. That sounds like a terrible encounter.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I feel bad. The person didn't know they were doing it in the mic. I know. He or she didn't know. It's so sad. There you go. All right. That's it for the show.
Starting point is 01:38:27 That's it for us. Thanks for all your support, by the way, over at patreon.com. We're nearing the end of another month, which means chance for people to re-up and or come join us for the first time. For as little as a buck a month, you can get all this nonsense. and take advantage of us. We're stupid. Come do it.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Oh, also, we got a play date coming up. When's that? Is that this weekend? Yes. I think it'll have to be, right? Because the 28th is Sunday. So if we do it on the last, it's always the last weekend of the month. So let's say Friday the 26th.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Friday the 26th. That sounds good to me. Let's play Among Us. I like it. Claire back. We'll have some Among Us time. That'll be our focus. Humongous Amongus.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Fungus among us. If you want to be there, you can be there no matter who you are. But if you want to get into these games, you need to be a patron. So head on over and check it out. Patreon.com slash TMS. Everything else is at frogpants.com slash TMS. And what else is I going to say? I always feel like I'm supposed to say something about our recording tonight of which you
Starting point is 01:39:28 were aware of. Yeah. But I shouldn't because it doesn't matter because this is all. No, they won't hear it for a month. I know. Although first episode should be coming out next week. I recorded a bunch of stuff for both Bobby and Hammond who are doing independent versions of the shows.
Starting point is 01:39:43 So one's abridged and then one is complete. So depending on if you want the whole enchilada or if you just want a bite, you'll get your choice. Yeah, because that's a lot of cheese. It should be next week. Yeah, sometimes it bites all you want. Just a little bite of that enchilada. That's right.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Which is, I was going to say, I think, but it'll spoil something. So I won't. All right, there's that. Hey, the morning stream at gmail.com. Where to send your email things, stuff, questions, whatever, send them. Send your email address. Yeah, send your email address to the morning stream at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:40:16 That's how we get them. All right, that's it. Let's get out of here with a song. You betcha. By the way, if you want to send in a request, go to frogpans.com slash TMS. Scott has a link right there that will get you right to where you need to submit your request. So please do it. Carl wrote in.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Carl used that link and said, hello, chalk and cheese. It's my wife's birthday on February 21st and followed the very next day by our eighth wedding anniversary. Tracy is my partner, my wife, and my whole world, and I love her more than she'll ever know. Our wedding first dance song was always by Bon Jovi, so if he could possibly find a cover of that or anything by Ed Shearin, for her, that would be amazing. If you can play it on the day, that'll be amazing. If not any time, keep up the amazing pod guys, Carl from England. Well, Carl, we'll forgive you for calling it a pod, by the way. we'll forgive me. Yeah, exactly. It's like saying bros.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Oh, man, I hate it. Don't do that. Don't do that, Carl. Carl, get back in the house, Carl. Or the flat, I guess you're in England. Get back in the flat, Carl. So I don't have any covers of always by Bon Jovi, and the ones I found online were sound-alikes. So we're skipping that. We're going to the second request, which was Ed Shearin. Yeah, I love this cover by Scary Pocket. Scary Pockets, if you're unfamiliar, is the other band by Pomplamoose and Patreon founder Jack Conti. And it's funky and super cool and they do some amazing covers themselves.
Starting point is 01:41:44 So it's great. Go check it out. Scary Pockets from their 2017 self-titled album, here's their cover of Shape of You. The club isn't the best place to find a lover, so the bar is where I go. Me and my friends at the table doing shots, drink a fast, and then we talk slow. Come over and start up a conversation with just me, and trust me, I'll give it a chance. Take my hands up and the man on the juice box, and then we start to dance. I'm singing like, boy, you know I want your love, your lover's handmade for somebody like me.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Come and I'll follow my lead, come and I'll follow my lead. Boy, you know I want your love. Your love was there made for somebody like me. Come and I follow my lead. Come and now follow my lead, yeah. I'm in love with the shape of you. Where you push and pull like a magnet's due. And though my heart is falling, too.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I'm in love with your body. Last night you were in my room. And now my bed sheet smelled like you. Every day discovering something brand new. I'm in love with your body. Oh, I'm in love with your body Oh, wow, oh, wow, oh, wow, oh, why, I'm in love with your body Oh, oh, wow, oh, why, oh, why, oh, why, oh, why, I'm in love with your body
Starting point is 01:43:13 every day discovering something brand new. I'm in love with the shape of you. No, no. Ooh, yeah. Oh Yeah, yeah, boy You know I want your love Your love was handmade for somebody like me
Starting point is 01:43:41 Come and now follow my lead Come and now follow my lead Boy, you know I want your love Your love was end made for somebody like me Come on now follow my leave Come on now follow my leave Oh I'm in love with the shape of you
Starting point is 01:43:58 We push and pull like a Magnus do And though my heart is falling too I'm in love with your body Last night you were in my room And now my bedsheet smelled like you Every day discovering something brand new I'm in love with your body Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, oh wow
Starting point is 01:44:16 I'm in love with your body I'm in love with your body Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow I'm in love with your body Every day discovering something brand know, I'm in love with the shape of you. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frogpants Network.
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