The Morning Stream - TMS 2078: Put the pipe between the buns

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

I Don't Like Decaf Teaaaaaaaaaa. Sticking a Little German In You! Are You Prepared To Receive My Swabbed Anus? Good for Preventing Death. Raise Your Hand If You Don't Like To Fart. Now that's a Walnut... of a Different Color! Are You A Freak And A Patron? When Life Gives You Lemons, Make Hamburger Buns. Decafstration Tea. You Gotta Keep 'Em Caffeinated. Get Your Blood Ready, It's Going To Be Sucked. Thank You Roman Chowdhurry! Come Together Right Now and Get a Jab. Professional Hording with Bill. Watercooler Wandavision with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Are you a freak and a patron? When life gives you lemons, make hamburger buns. Decafstraination tea. You've got to keep them caffeinated. Get your blood ready. It's going to be sucked. Thank you, Roman Chowdhouterie. Come together right now.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Get a jab. Professional hoarding with Bill. Water cooler Wanda Vision with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. When a moose takes a dump, you walk about 50 yards and direction and they take another dump and when a moose takes a dump they'll crap out between two and four hundred turds every time they take a crap so i get jumping right up and down i get excited when i see a turd this game is a most confused game of that i'm knowing i'm getting too old for this show this is the morning stream
Starting point is 00:01:28 Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS, the morning stream from Monday, March 8th, 2021. Scott Johnson here, Brian Ibit there. Good morning, Brian Ibit. Hello, Scott Johnson. Happy brand new week to you. Did you take the wrapping off slowly for this new week? I did. I did. I just rip it off and dump the wrapping on the floor. I peeked in there. I shook a little bit. Yeah, shook it. Shook it all. night long. And then here we am today with a hot new day, hot new month, looking ready for the big, big day. Not really. Actually, I am kind of, I got good news. Here in Utah, I guess we're ahead of the curve or we're ahead of our curve. I don't know what everyone else's curve is, but you're definitely ahead of the curve compared to many states. Yeah, we must be, but we apparently
Starting point is 00:02:20 have moved down to a more general population age range and group, and we can now get the, I can get the jab the first jab that's awesome uh-huh and i go in on the 19th that's a friday and uh go in there at about around lunchtime and then for some reason even though my wife's technically age range just outside the window of the new range they're letting her in anyway since we're coming together may as well just kill two birds with on stone so we're doing doing us both that day and i'm very excited that's that's not just any friday scott that's uh winter soldier and falcon friday oh my gosh so want me to do this and then come home and then hopefully not feel like crap and then watching that yeah and then put off watching falceton and winter soldier for uh six weeks
Starting point is 00:03:06 that one i that one i may not be able to get away with because kim kim's all tuned in on this she really more so than uh wandavision yeah she's it's really likes that stan sebastian doesn't she Sebastian Stan is his real name yeah it is it would be right you put the last same first and why not? Well, yeah. I mean, come on. I didn't get that wrong. I just gave it the military treatment because he's military. Duh. Last I saw him, Spider-Man killed him in that devil all the time show I saw on Netflix. So he's got a lot to make up for after Spider-Man killed him. Anyway, it was easy. And we got into the website and did the thing. And it said, hey, actually originally said the 15th, but then later, when
Starting point is 00:03:52 it hit submit, it then said the 19th. So it was clearly, clearly things were filling up, you know. Did it tell you which one you're getting? Yes, getting the Pfizer. Pfizer, the Pfezzer. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I remember we talked about that. Carter pronounces it Pfezzer. Yeah, a little German in my veins, is what I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:04:09 So thank you, Germany. I know a little German. I get a little German in me. Yeah, I do now. I will now. So that would be cool. And then they scheduled the three weeks and you do the thing. And I picked, they let us pick, actually.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You said, you want Moderna? They were like, it was like a menu. Really? Yeah. And I said, oh, we had to choose. let's do, let's do Pfizer, because I'd heard Moderna is harder on you for the, uh, for the little mini flu you get, the little mini COVID you get. And the, uh, the Pfizer was less so, um, but just is effective. So that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Glad to see you changed your mind on the getting the Johnson and Johnson in, uh, in Mr. Johnson. Yes. You know, because it was, uh, was it like 65% or something, 70, whatever it is. 70%, uh, 70% effective for retransmission. or, what's the word, when you can infect other people around you, but still like 99% effective on preventing death. Oh, well then. There's two, there's like efficacy, and then there's, you know, there's the retransmission rate and then there's the death. All of them are really good for preventing death. That's good.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Let's prevent death. I'm thinking. Yes, prevent death. So between now and then, we're going to be extra cautious because, gosh, dang it. Wouldn't that suck if you caught it right before you reached your thing? Yeah, that would blow. So we're going to do real good there. But instead, to tempt a little bit of fay, we went to the zoo yesterday.
Starting point is 00:05:36 The zoo. Oh, cool. Yeah. So they had a thing where they make no money now because no one goes to the zoo right now. It's like, it's a problem. And I think I understand why. It's not just because of COVID. It's this.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Okay, so they only let a certain number of people in. You got to buy tickets within a certain range. We're going to take van. And our goal was like, all right, well, we'll just stay outside and not be in the humid, like, you know, lizard stadium thing or any of that stuff. We just be out here in the periphery. All of the outside stuff and then of the like interior, the buildings. Yeah. Those feel like bad.
Starting point is 00:06:09 They feel like bad places for COVID time. Just right now. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a bad idea. So that was our plan going in. What's funny, though, as we get there. And the tickets for cheap.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I was like, sweet, man, this is like half or more than half off. What it usually is to come to this thing in normal times. And we got there, and the animals outside were actually out and kind of about, which was nice. Usually they're sleeping or some. In the summer, they're terrible to see because they're all hot and they're sleeping underneath stuff you can't see them. So they got to see all these animals and stuff. But they shut down anything that was indoor, of any kind. Oh, so you didn't have the choice of going into a humid lizard stadium.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. So even I, I went in there going, oh, man, no way we're going to the humid lizard stadium. but now that it's closed and I see that we can't go in there. Then I was like, oh, this is cheap. No, I want to do it. These tickets seem like not as good a deal as I thought they were. But anyway, it was fine. We went to a park and had a nice outdoor picnic and it was lovely.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, very nice. The boy is a hoot to be around. So that was loads of fun. But you got to hang out with Dan. I'm jealous of this because Dan's cool. It's funny. Tina actually went to the zoo on Friday as well, the Denver Zoo. Similar kind of thing, but we were members.
Starting point is 00:07:21 So we get several free, well, we get free admission the whole year, but then we also get to bring people. So when the kids want to go or whatever, we can take them. Right. But, yeah, she went Friday. Similar kind of thing. Super, you know, super low admission numbers. Keep everybody spaced apart. Masks, 700% of the time, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. But, yeah, Saturday night, I had dinner with Dan and his son, D.E. DJ and his friend James and James' son, whose name I'm not remembering all of a sudden. Yeah. But went to a nice restaurant down by the hotel and by the hockey stadium where they played. They actually had a really good weekend, did really well in the tournament, and even had some time yesterday to run up to Loveland and go do some skiing or snowboarding. Oh, nice. Has he done that before? Yeah. He is not.
Starting point is 00:08:19 First timer. So he's asking, well, I wonder if he had. Because it seemed like, man, you'd need more time than just half a day to go up there and try and get some skiing in or snowboarding in. But it looked like they, you know, the photo they sent me from up there looked like they had some good weather up there and good time. I mean, we've been having 70 degree weather this last weekend. And today and tomorrow was supposed to be more of that. It was only about 65 for us yesterday, but it was perfect. It was perfect.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Oh, that's nice. Oh, man, I wanted to stay there all day. I'd have walked around that to all day long if I could have. It was wonderful. I got out on the bike yesterday, and it felt like something that had been missing from my life for so long has just been restored. So it was nice to finally get back out there. It's not the same when you're riding in front of the big screen with the people from Apple Fitness Plus yelling at you and telling you that their life is so good in Santa Monica or wherever. She's pissed at you right now.
Starting point is 00:09:19 She's not happy with you because she hasn't seen you. that's all she just wants to see that's right exactly she wants to be with you yeah she wants to be with you I understand yes well that's cool I'm glad you guys got to do that
Starting point is 00:09:29 I haven't seen Dan since geez since uh physically since like 2017 a couple years yeah I don't think you made it to any of the Vegas stuff no he never got it to Vegas but he came to
Starting point is 00:09:40 so N17 I think maybe the last time I saw him because it was the same year well no he went to Blizcon that year so I saw him that year but he hadn't been since he wasn't there in 2018 so it's been a while since i've seen dan it has been a while it's been too long a while yeah he's had he had the
Starting point is 00:09:56 natural vaccine aka catch covid and then not it did not get anyone hopefully but uh but good i'm glad you guys get to hang out that's pretty awesome it was fun it was good seeing seeing all of them did he one other quick thing too with the travel um that he kind of reminded me of her where his travel reminded me of this is that yeah i mean it was about a year ago that we were making the hard decision on not doing TMS Vegas and putting that on the bubble there. And so a lot of people had to go in and do their vouchers and get their refunds and stuff. Just to let you know we're approaching one year on that.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So if you have not called your airline to check on the extendability of your voucher, you should do so today or soon because otherwise your voucher will expire, that money goes nowhere and you've paid for a flight that you're not. I mean, you get to get to take, you know, or get reimbursement on ever. Yeah. So. By my calendar, we're still about a week, week and a half away from where we made the final call,
Starting point is 00:10:59 but now would be the time to check it. I would check it because some of those things, they told me that one of them expired, or the date that I bought the tickets, the 12-month thing had passed. And they said, yeah, but we'll extend it. Frontier was being really nice, and they're going to extend it for me.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They did take, like, they gave me a couple vouchers when I canceled because it was, if you take a voucher, then we'll give you 25 bucks extra. And those vouchers have long expired. Those expired at the end of 2020. And there's no extension on those, unfortunately. Well, well, it was nice of them to do it, but maybe they also had an idea that people probably wouldn't use that stuff for 2020. Probably, exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:41 They're like, yeah, well, I mean, I think back then, a year ago, we were thinking, all right four months five months we'll be around you know we'll round the corner on this stuff it'll be nothing and uh here we are a year later and we're pretty sure my delta tickets i don't they didn't have them for nertacular or for uh Vegas we were going to drive but um we had that trip planned to new orleans for the summer and i think those are still like they're in like some kind of permanent holding thing where you can just have it and they just are there for me i would check just to be safe but uh yeah i kim supposed to supposedly did, but I'll bugger today.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Just make sure we're all right. Because I think they had some pretty open rule about all that. I don't remember how much. And I think on the whole, Delta is a lot better than Frontier. Frontier is a credit card company disguised as an airline. Yeah. It's a little bit of a sham over there. It really is.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I mean, when you get on and they're pushing their credit card thing on you twice during the flight, yeah. It's like, yeah, okay, what's your priorities here? Oh, I got a question before we have a special guest joining us today for a second, Before I do that, let's make a left arm or right arm. What do I do, you guys? Come on. Oh, your non-dominant arm. Does that what you're supposed to do is non-dominant?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah. Okay. And you're right-handed, correct? Yes. So lefty. Okay. And they'll just put it right up here, like at the top, right? And they're not going to your, they're not like, hey, do you have veins in your crotch or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They're not going to do that. This isn't going to be like. I'd do that. I don't know. I mentioned you could probably. request it. But yeah, get a shot in the upper part of your non-domin arm. Because that's the deal with the heroin people, right? They run out of veins and their regular arm
Starting point is 00:13:24 stuff, so they got to go between their toes and then eventually that dries up and they got to use vein in their crotch and stuff. Yeah. My God, that just gives me thinking about getting a shot in the, like, the webbing between your toes. Yeah, no, thanks. No, pass. I had a needle go through my heel. I know how bad that can be. Forget it. Yeah, exactly. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Hard pass Hard pass. Hard pass Alamacormick. All right, let's get in here and get, we're going to have Gwen join us for a moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You may know Gwen, she is up there running the fantastic Phoenix Pearl Tea. Awesome teas that provide both the TMS patron with some teas,
Starting point is 00:14:04 but we also do some stuff for there will be dungeons. And she's just awesome. And we're going to talk about TMSTs and the flavors you're going to want to be trying these days.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I don't really have a theme for this because it's not really a But it'd be cool if I did, wouldn't it? Like, what if I had? Tea, glorious tea. I'll just have Brian make it funny. Here's the sound.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yep. That's Brian, or Tom Merritt saying yip. Yep. There you go. Hey, Gwen. How's it going? Hello. How's my sound?
Starting point is 00:14:32 You sound great. Welcome to the show. Awesome. Fantastic. Thank you for joining. How are you all? We're fantastic. We're real good.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We just met with you the other day and talked a little bit more about what's going on at phoenixperltee.com. One of the first places I want to go somehow, if I can figure it out after we do get these shots and things do make sense. I want to get up to that place in Montana where it's located. Absolutely. There's hardly any people up here. It's very,
Starting point is 00:14:55 very easy to keep six-foot distance. I imagine, yeah. And we'll make like a whole proper trip out of it. Like do you know, what do you call it? I can't think of the place now. Yellowstone? Yellowstone. Jeez Louise. Now literally right over the hill. Like the most gorgeous drive in America
Starting point is 00:15:11 drive through Yellowstone, drive over this beautiful, beautiful mountain pass. Come down under Red Lodge, it's fantastic. You ever get like, can you see any like weird mud pots or geysers or anything over the mountain? Or is it just like, that's over here? I mean, not really because Yellowstone is a giant forest. That's true. You see a lot of trees and a lot of lakes, a lot of lakes.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I have it in my head that you guys are just like Toronto and Vancouver, just right there. Just go right across the street from one another. some mud pots like right in the road outside. Actually, they're kind of our right now. That kind of sounds awesome. Pot holes fixed. I'd be end of that. Well, all right.
Starting point is 00:15:54 That's awesome. Well, it's good to have you here. We, of course, do these teas through the Patreon, and we thought it'd be fun to come on and talk about, oh, you know, what's going on in the tea world? What we have coming down the line, that sort of thing? What do you got in the shaker right now for teas? Well, I'm about to send out the March boxes for TMS,
Starting point is 00:16:11 which is going to be a bunch of our new. there will be Dungeons T's that are all coming I mean they're out actually they're just going to be coming to you soon but I don't want to talk about those because if nobody's signed up yet on this stream then I want to tell them
Starting point is 00:16:27 about what's coming next month so they can know what they will be getting. Yeah right because the people who are already getting it are getting it so you don't have to worry it's all you find folks who are sitting on the fence going man this might finally push me over so tell them what they can look forward to So I try to do a good mix every month of different teas. And this coming month for April, I'm going to be doing a black tea, a fruity tea, and kind of a sweet and spice tea.
Starting point is 00:16:54 The Forsaken Delight is a 2019 vintage of Japanese black tea. Straight up, hybrid of a couple of different varieties of Cedensis and Asomica. Beautiful, beautiful mixed flavors. kind of fruity undertones, like a wine and malty and all this beautiful, beautiful stuff. Doesn't need milk, but you can drink it with it, because I know Brian probably will. I do. Yep. He likes to fart.
Starting point is 00:17:24 It doesn't need it, though. Is it caffeinated? Oh, yeah. If it's black tea. Okay. If it's black tea, it's caffeinated. We don't do any of the chemically decaffeinated stuff. Like, in order to have caffeine-free black tea, you actually have to chemically decaffinate it.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Oh, really? Oh, geez. usually it's a decafstraation or something like that decafstration it's usually like running it through water and like blasting it with hot water and immediately sieving and drying it to get all the caffeine washed off which dilutes the flavor it's we don't go for that weird yeah so the caffeine uh sorry you have to ask this the caffeine itself is like uh like if you did that process would you see it whether we like little caffeine granules left over from stripping it yeah yeah so uh Weird. Where do you think energy drinks get their caffeine from? I guess. From washed off a black tea decaffeination process. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Decaffeinated tea and coffee, they literally tumble it in big, like, dryers, and it, like, comes off like a powder and they scrape it off the side and sell it to PepsiCo. Is that true? Wow. Yeah, 100%. All right. So if you're, like, going for a decaf, part of what you're doing is supporting the soft drink world and Coke Zero. That's pretty much. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Okay. But yeah, this one's... It's good that they can use all of the leaf. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And we've got good herbals that taste kind of like black tea if you need caffeine-free. I just don't like to do the weird processed stuff. But that one's super good.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Very, very tasty. It'll be going out. We just added a grapefruit wulong called the trap sense, a tea for all you rangers out there. And it's got two, like, chunks of grapefruit and some natural. extracts, and it's made on this by how Wulong base. It's absolutely divine, just stunned with how good this one is.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Great fruits, not everybody's big on grapefruit, but everybody I've talked to has really liked this one. Well, that's what I was going to ask. How much is it like great? I mean, how much of that flavor really comes through? Oh, yeah. No, it comes through.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It's got a nice tart grapefruit flavor. See, I'm into that. Those are my favorite kind of teas. I like those, like, well, my favorite kind of tea is sugar-filled freaking maches in the morning. But now that I can't have those so much, I love a good... I like citrusy, like, lemony, like that kind of thing. Love that.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So that's what that sounds like. I'm really excited about that one. Oh, it's good. And it's got a really nice high-quality Wulong as a base called Baihau, where, like, they let these tiny little, like, leaf hopper bugs fly out over the plantation and, like, gnaw on the leaves. And then flush them all out. And as the tea heals itself, they pick it when it's full of a bunch of extra healing nutrients and then make the Wulong out of it. So we're drinking healing, we're drinking healing nutrients is what you're saying. There's lots of extra chlorophyll and all that good stuff to heal the leaf.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's brilliant flavorful. Just, oh my God, it's so good. It's my favorite style. Yeah. I'm into it. With creep free free. Yeah. And then the last one, I believe Brian knows, and I think Scott knows, is the dreams of Arabis, which.
Starting point is 00:20:38 which is a calming cinnamon walnut cream herbal. Good for sleepy. Yes, love this one. Yeah. I think I sent that one up a year or so ago when you were having some issues sleeping. And I think it helped if I remember. It did help. Yeah, definitely that stuff will knock me out.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And what I need to do is brew up a second pot in the middle of the night to stay asleep. Yeah, that's the trick, right? I just having that stuff last. I made the mistake the other day. Ivy drip or something like that. Yeah, yeah, just put it in your veins. But I had a, I had a, I took one of those unisome things the other day. I forgot how bad those mess me up.
Starting point is 00:21:18 They completely jack up the next day. Oh, yeah. Just a groggy gelatinous turd at the entire next day. Way better do this naturally with tea. Yeah, for sure. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, do I need to get some sent up to either stuff? I mean, I might.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I did drink through it all. And maybe I will. We'll talk. We'll talk. Well, we were out of this stuff for like six months. There's a big, big shortage on black walnut right now for some reason. And I use the black walnut holes for a really deep, nutty flavor. It also turns the tea like pitch black.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Oh, interesting. And it's like out everywhere. What's the difference between a black taste, too? I've had black walnut ice cream that was like, oh, this has got such a strong flavor, like a very bitter, dark. The accent. You want an accent. Little bits of black walnut.
Starting point is 00:22:03 A little bit. So wait a minute. That's the difference between a black walnut. A regular walnut is just a much more intense, better flavor to it because they're kind of better anyway, right? Different species, different varietal. Like, it's just a different kind of walnut. It's just strong and black and angry. Yeah. Smooth and convincing, though.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah, smooth and convincing, but black and angry. I'll get you. This one's got caramel and cinnamon and vanilla, and it, I mean, it tastes like an oatmeal cookie. It's amazing. Is it wrong of me to like cinnamon? so much that I pretty much would have it in everything all the time. T's included. No. Okay. Nothing wrong with that. I need to get you the new
Starting point is 00:22:43 D&D teas because I just did the the Delver's Delight, which is like a cinnamon breakfast tea. It's awesome. Oh, that does sound so good. We did talk about that a little bit the other day and I'm pretty excited about that one. That one sounds you do dairy, Scott? Oh yeah, I can do dairy. Dairy's no problem. Okay. Well, yeah, it's good. It's good with Melkin. All right. He also likes to fart. I like to fart. Who needs your hand if you don't like to fart?
Starting point is 00:23:07 I mean, nobody doesn't like to fart. We need to fart. We need to. Yeah, exactly. Milk is good. I've got it. I've got it in my cup right now. I'm drinking a masala chai in the morning.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Dude, look at that gnarly. Look at the gnarly handle on her. That's awesome. Look at that. Oh, yeah. I got this handmade. It's a handthroen pottery with a glaze and they did this like tree bark style handle. I love this thing.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Good place for your thumb, too, on the top there. Yeah. for sure. No, it's a perfect fit for my enormous hands. It's brilliant. Unfortunately, the Potter moved to Alaska and started oil drilling or something
Starting point is 00:23:47 because the money was a lot better than ceramics. Boom. He doesn't make stuff anymore. Well, maybe he'll come back to it. There's always a chance. But I like it. It looks like the elf king of the forest handed it to you or something. It's very cool. That's exactly how I like it. I like everything you look like, bud. Keep my morning's elfie.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah, exactly. Well, this is all great stuff, and you can learn about all these teas and additional stuff over at phoenixpriltee.com. And, of course, if you're signed up for the Patreon, expect to see those new teas coming to you soon. This is fantastic. Gwen, thanks so much for hanging out with us. We'll have to do this more often, kind of get caught up on what's the latest at Phoenix Pearl Tees. You just let me know. Got a fun one coming down the line that Scott and I have to taste test.
Starting point is 00:24:30 We got something on the pipeline. The key term there. Yeah, pipe-in flavored. Very excited about that. the pipeline flavored tea coming our way. Gwen, have a fantastic week. We'll see you again. You too.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Thanks. There's she goes. You all right? As I choke on my coffee. Yeah, just fine. That's your coffee's way of saying, I should be tea. Exactly. It's fighting.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's jealous. You have low tea right now, low tea. Very low tea. High coffee, low tea. All right. It's done away time. That's right. Party on the Monday.
Starting point is 00:25:01 We get to have Brian here and we get to have you guys here, playing a little game with us, and I'm going to get it all set up here so that it works properly. And then we're going to see if we can give some prizes away. So sit back and enjoy this. Yes, that's right. Welcome to Battle Royale, where we do stuff. And Brian Dunaway's here. Hi, Brian.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi. It's nice to have you here. How are you doing all right? I'm doing pretty good. I mean, this week we did FilmSack on Saturday, so we had that day, between so I'm already missing you guys so this is good. Yeah, we miss you. It feels like it's been
Starting point is 00:25:39 a while since we recorded films. Which is so weird. It's only been a day. Yeah. Yeah. It really I don't know. We all got busy. We all had stuff and so now. We did. Saturdays we're. Stuff and things. Now we're back to normal. Yeah. If y'all haven't heard our under siege, uh, siege. I keep saying
Starting point is 00:25:55 siege. Under siege. I don't like siege. You're going to want to check that out because we had a whole lot of fun talking about the only good, Steve. Segal movie and even then. Stephen Segal is Tommy Lee Jones is. And even the word good in that sentence
Starting point is 00:26:11 is in italics. Oh yeah. Very much in italics. Actually, I would say the only good Stephen Segal movie is executive decision, but Oh, right. Because he was out of there in five minutes, yeah. Oh, that was so weird and his big faces on the poster and everything. What a weird time that was. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:27 We have a listener on the line who's going to play Babel Royale with us today. Thanks for holding so long. Who's this? It's Kit London. How are you guys today? Hey, Kit. Hi, Kit. Kit is already, you already pal around with Kit with your play-through of that dungeon thing. Or no, what's your own?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah, every Thursday night, Kit gets online with me. She breaks out her big old notebook, and she tells me what I'm done and where I'm going in Graveyard Keeper. That's right. Game is cool. You keep tempting me to play it again. Don't do that. Don't do that. Got some new DLC content.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Scott. Oh, yeah? More Zambies? More, uh... Vampires. Vampires. Oh, my gosh. Vampires.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Okay, well, get your blood ready. It's going to be sucked. All right. Kit, hey, it's good at you here. Always nice to hear your voice. Let's play a game and see if we can win you some prizes. Brian, will you explain what Kit could win? I will, and it's funny because she was our inaugural version of this.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Welcome to What's Your Nerd. I've interviewed a member of the Tad Pool and asked them nine questions in a subject in which they can sit to themselves a nerdy. Scott and Brian are going to take turns predicting whether or not our guest will get those questions correct. If they predict correctly, they receive a point. First player to five points wins the game. Kit, as always, your job is to choose which of our two hosts will more accurately predict our guest's knowledge in their category. And if you're correct, you win our prize package, which includes from Steam, courtesy of Wesley, endless space to the Digital Deluxe Edition, which includes more endless.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I don't know how it's got more endless than the original endless. Beyond endless. But it's like extra endless. and Trine for the Nightmare Prince. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I don't even have four. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah. Endless Space 2 is one of my favorite. They call them 4X games. Think of like, you know, civilization, that sort of thing. But this one's a science fiction, the deal. One of my favorites ever. I put so many hours into that, I can't even count them. It's a fantastic game.
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's cool. Good wins. Yeah. All right, well, let's get into this. Let's find out who is our special guest, and what is their nerd? I'm here with Bronco, Jeff Sire. How you doing, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Is it loud? I am. Hold on a second. It was pretty loud. I love it. It sounds like you're live. That's, I missed those kind of things. I didn't change anything from last time.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Here, let me, I'll adjust. Let's see. How's this? I'm here with Bronco. Jeff Sire. How you doing, Jeff? I am fantastic. I'm glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It's good to have you here for what's your nerd. And how are things up in Canada right now? well we still have snow and yeah we're going to still have snow for a while but you know we're at the getting towards the end
Starting point is 00:29:11 you can see some patches are starting to recede and I keep going out and look my motorcycle and go out and have a beer with my motorcycle and have a little conversation about how soon we're going to be hanging out more
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'll see you soon yeah buddy love you buddy Excellent. Well, as much as I'd like to say that the motorcycles or Canada is your nerd, you have a nerd that's even bigger than that. What is your nerd? My nerd that I'm doing today is the series, the expanse, the book series and the shows. When you asked me, I was thinking about it, and I've probably read each book twice,
Starting point is 00:29:55 and I think I've seen all of the episodes twice. Wow. Excellent. Well, cool. Well, let's get into these questions. and see how well you know, and these are going to focus, by the way, on the TV series, The Expans. Excellent. Because I haven't read the books. Here we go. I just wanted to say something about that to anybody who hasn't seen it. It's not that this has spoiled me for other science fiction, but it is really forced home that a lot of what we think of as science fiction is really more science fantasy.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It really is. Because the expanse is so razor-focused on the science part of it. And they try and do everything plausible. Yeah. And that's probably my favorite thing about it. Absolutely. Great. Well, let's get into these and let's see how well you do with the expanse.
Starting point is 00:30:43 All right. So that's his category, the expanse. Obviously, it doesn't matter how much you guys know about the expanse. It just matters how much fire knows about the expanse. And Kit, this is where you predict. Who's going to do better at guessing how Jeff does with his questions? Who do you think is going to win? And who do you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'm picking Dunaway to win and Dunaway to start. Oh, look at this. Oh, look at that. Little Dunaway favoritism from all that graveyard keeper time. Your faith in me is greatly misplaced. The double Dunaway is what we can call that. The D-D. All right, Brian, I asked Jeff, as the series opens,
Starting point is 00:31:27 we find James Holden's serving on what ship. Now, I believe... I don't have things out on the Rosanante. What ship was he serving on? I'll tell you this. I've never watched or read any expanse stuff. You should. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You're missing out. I'm going to... Absolutely. So I am going to wish greatly that he knows this one. I believe he does. I'll bet he knows this one. All right. Well, it doesn't matter what you say, Scott, but...
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. Yeah, who cares what I see. You're both saying that he's got this, Brian. Brain is the vote that counts. Let's hear what he says. Oh, that would be the Canterbury ice hauler run by Pure and Clean. Wow. Oh, man, you're going to be so good at these.
Starting point is 00:32:12 A little bonus. Yeah. Yeah, that's a pretty good, it gives you pretty good idea. I mean, he's identifying captains and things like that. So, great. Okay. Brian gets a point, which means the next question goes over to Scott. Uh, Scott, I asked Jeff, what is the name of Bobby Draper's nephew, whose relationship with Lili leads to her recruitment to work with Isai Martin?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, geez. Later in the books. Um, and the series. And the series. Yep. Uh, I, uh, I think he'll, I think he'll know that too. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:52 All right. Let's find out. Oh, man. Uh-oh. Okay, this one you've got me on, because I'm going to recognize it when you say it, but nothing is coming to me. Not even a guess? No, not even a guess, because the bad thing with this is that in the books, they've drawn from one of the novellas, not from the main books. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Okay. Yeah, this is, the novella comes from is something called the gods of risk. Okay. But I can't remember his name. He's give bonus points for knowing David Draper. David. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Actually, David doesn't even ring a bell, but yeah. Yeah, no. Okay. It does for me, the last season, before this one, they dealt with this David kid a lot. They certainly did, yes. Yeah, David Draper, correct? And unfortunately, Jeff got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Point goes to Brian, but that means he still keep control of the game, Scott. I asked Jeff, what is the full name of the private eye who reocurs in the form of the investigator. The full name. The full name. First and last name. He'll know that. Yeah. He'll know that. As long as there's no middle name I can't think of right now. I think he'll
Starting point is 00:34:05 know that. All right. Let's see how he did. I don't know if he has a middle name, but his first and last name are Josephus Miller. Josephus Miller is exactly what I have here. All right. Middle name Josephus. That's right. Played by the brilliant dude what played Punisher. His name is all of a sudden. yeah hung it's played by hung i can't think of his name uh yeah right i love him though also also in hung yeah can't think of his name he's fantastic though and also that is one of the great
Starting point is 00:34:36 modern characters written he's he's an amazing character it's really good for sure yeah all right good job oh yeah thomas jane thank you here we go all right uh you still have control it's two to one scott so i asked jeff meneo jung espinoza activates the ring gates while pursuing a record in what activity did he know? Yeah, he'll know that because it's also, it's referential to the first book and first season.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So yes, I think he'll know that. Okay. All right. Let's see how we did. Oh. Okay. He is, it's a not, it's a gravity-assisted a spaceship flight. So it's, and I
Starting point is 00:35:21 think they're called slingshoters. Yeah, slingshot racing. The slingshot was the word I was looking for. Well done. All right. Very good, Scott. Tie things up, two, two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:33 We got ourselves a game here. All right, this is going to go to Brian. Oh, hi. Once we tie things up, it goes to the other player. I asked, Jeff, what is the name of the Earth Mining Corporation chartered by the United Nations to explore New Terra, a.k.a. Illis. Hmm. Well, I don't know that, but I think he does. Okay. Let's see if he knows. Here is his response.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh. Oh. Oh. No, no. I'm going to kick myself when you tell me what it is. Royal Charter Energy. That's exactly right. Oh, my God. And this is like, correct. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. He didn't think he knew it, fell into it. A real charter energy. Three points for Brian, two for Scott. This goes back to Scott. Okay. As one of the best pirates in the belt, Clay's Ashford earned what nickname?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Played by Stratharon. Yeah, he's so good. But does he know the nickname that he earned? Yeah. No. He's a. Really awesome character. Pretty memorable stuff, so I'll say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I'll give Jeff the chance here to say yes. Let's hear how he did. I loved him in that. Because this isn't a book thing either. And they don't mention. Yeah. At least I don't think it is. Because Ashford's character is very different.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The way they do it, they take his character and make him somebody else. But both of the characters from the, it's weird. Both characters from the book are both in the show, but they've swapped personalities. Oh, interesting. But the names, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:35 The Ghost Knife of Callisto. Damn it. Okay. Yeah. I remember somebody saying that, but I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that's in the books. Gotcha. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Oh, it's funny when I give him the answer, he's like, hmm, okay. If you say so There was no chance of To be ever getting that Wow Very Jeff Jeff way of handling it
Starting point is 00:37:56 I like it That's right All right So Brian takes the lead Four to two Scott you need You need this To keep in the game here
Starting point is 00:38:04 I asked Jeff Prior to leading the OPA Fred Johnson You should get this Because he's a Johnson Fred Johnson held What rank In the United Nations Marine Corps
Starting point is 00:38:13 Oh he'll know that That's a huge point of interest At least in the books well, the first couple of books. Yeah, and he seems to be leaning book here, so I'm going to say yes, he knows. Okay, all right, let's see if he knows it. He was the butcher of Anderson Station,
Starting point is 00:38:32 and I believe he was a colonel. He was a colonel. Correct. Ding-Bing. Very good. Still in it. All right. You still in it.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You're still in it. Fort of three, and you still have control. Later renamed the Rosanante. What was the original commissioned name of the ship that Holden uses to escape the Donager. This is O-T-U-Skot. Did Jeff know what the original name of the Rosanonte was? Mars bullshit.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Mars bullshit. Mars bullshit. He's going to probably know it. He'll know it. We'll say he goes. Okay. All right, let's see if he gets this. The MCRN Corvette Tachi.
Starting point is 00:39:18 he even knew he's got right off the bat that's awesome yeah corvette class wow tied things up tied it again this is the question that will decide the fate I don't like it
Starting point is 00:39:32 is too much pressure the game playing if a kid is going to get to play any games this week my Thursday will be hell we watch the Oprah interview with the Royals let's see how what your prediction is I asked Jeff the development of what
Starting point is 00:39:47 fusion reaction engine led to a joint effort by Mars and Earth to colonize the belt? Huh? That's right. The development of what fusion reaction engine led to a joint effort by Mars and Earth to colonize the belt? This doesn't feel like something anyone would know, but I don't know if it's the book or the TV. Jeff knows it. I think you're right to choose that. I think he's going to know this.
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's a huge part of the story. What I said about the science fiction and science fantasy, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is the Epstein Drive. And the way they show it portrayed of how it got developed is, I think, one of the highlights of the series.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, it's really good. It's great, yeah. You're absolutely correct, by the way, of course. Yeah. Well done. Yes. Good, fud game. That gives the point to Brian, and Kit London was correct.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Kit, how do you feel about that? You picked your grave hunter-keeper guy to win. How'd that go? Grave-hunter-keeper. You feel good? I feel great, and I also have TWBDT coming from Gwen today, so I'm excited to try out. Oh, if you got cinnamon, yeah, get cinnamon, whatever you do, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:41:09 It doesn't matter to me. If like someone said to me, do you want a steak or a steak with some cinnamon? I'd take the steak with cinnamon. sure I don't even know what that means yeah it's so good anyway don't do the challenge though that's rough stuff my brother tried and it about killed him about choke to death on it so don't do the cinnamon challenge anyway uh well done congratulations you know the drill just send brian an email coverville at gmail.com and you will walk away the happy winner of these codes today congratulations kit we're proud of you thank you guys bye now pick you kid all right well done well Brian good job both
Starting point is 00:41:41 of you by the way I'm giving all those yeah it's great I didn't know I don't know I don't know why I didn't know this, but I didn't know Jeff was such a freak about the expanse. I had no idea. I didn't either until he emailed me and said, hey, I'm a freak about the expanse. Yeah, yeah. And he's really... Know your freak. He knows his stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And, uh, well, should he? Because that's a fantastic series and series of books. If you haven't read them or watched it, you're all insane. Brian, done away. If you're a freak about something, listening, if you're a patron and a TMS patron and a freak about something, please email me, coverville at gmail.com and let me know. what your nerd is, and we'll see about getting you on to an episode of this. Yeah, that'd be totally fun. I love these.
Starting point is 00:42:20 These are great. Dunaway, always good to have you. Of course, tomorrow, you and I'll be doing the Boop Show, 3.30 Mountain Time. And I got to talk about a game, dude. Holy. Oh, I got to talk about a game. I got to talk about Curse of the Dead God. Whoa, that's a...
Starting point is 00:42:36 All that game's great. You know what? You'll find that I talked about that game on Boop like a year and a half ago in early access, but I'm excited to hear your take on it now that's fully out. I'm going to talk about it since it came out. Yeah, it's 1.0 now. It's great. That's a very cool game also. We got stuff and we love the Indies.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So we're talking about Indies. That's what happens on there. So check it out live 330 Mountain Time, the boop show at frogpants.com slash B-O-O-P. Brian, anything else you want to say? Curses. Curses. Why, you won. You did good today.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You're all. Curses is the game. Every time I get cursed. I'm like, curses. Oh, curses. Curses. Bye. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Such a dork. He's talking about a very good game, though. So I will get a game called Curses. It's called Curse of the Dead Gods. And it's very good. It's very good game. All right. Brian, we've done it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And we're actually making decent time. So I am going to do a little bit of this. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Let's do a little bit of news brought to you by. Brought to you by Soundography. Hammond and I are taking a week off from releasing the show.
Starting point is 00:43:39 But we're in the process of listening to, this is why it's taking this two weeks. Hair metal from 1981 to 1991, 10 years, a decade of hair metal. Hamm and I are going to be discussing some of the big names in there. Of course, your Def Leopard, your Motley Crew, your Striper, your Lita Ford, your, uh, those, all those, Warrant. Oh, Warrant? Sweet. All right, I wasn't in until just then when you said Warrant, now I'm in. That was the tipping point, was hearing that we were going to talk about that song Cherry Pie. Yeah, pretty exciting.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Or one of my favorite people to talk about is winger, good old Kip Winger. Yeah, Winger, Warrant, all of it. Yeah, that's great. That's right. So, hair metal coming up next week on soundography, take a week off. Nice. I like it. We got some important news coming out of Japan and China.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Okay. Let's say Asia, where apparently Russia isn't anymore. This is what it says. Japan asked China to stop. performing anal swab test for COVID on its citizens. Japanese citizens keep traveling there for business or whatever, and the Chinese are like, come here and give us your anus, and then they test it with a swab. Drop your pants. Let's see if you've got the COVID.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yep. And the Japanese are saying, stop it. The government has asked China to stop imposing anal swab test for COVID-19 on their citizens. Chief Cabinet Secretary Katsubanubu Kato, I'm sure it's correct, said the government has not received a response from officials in Beijing yet about whether they will change the testing procedure. Mr. Cato said Japan would continue to ask China to alter the way testing because of the damage it causes to those who have to undergo the procedure. He says the practice, quote, has not been confirmed to be effective anywhere else in the world, unquote. Some Japanese reported to our embassy in China that they received anal swab tests, which caused a great
Starting point is 00:45:34 deal of psychological pain. And also, you know, you'd do it wrong, you might get a little bit of the bum pain, too, I think. Well, that and they weren't doing a good job. job of keeping track of which swabs were for the bum and which ones were for the nose. So, you know, things got confusing. The Chinese character for anal versus nasal is very, very similar. It's just a little tiny line that's different. You're off by one digit and you forget it. The whole thing is shot.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Exactly, yes. Well, here in China, we use the whole swab, they like to say. Yeah, I don't know why they're doing that because it is not, it is not. scene or it's unnecessary yeah i mean the noses we've determined that the nose is fine spit tests are fine yeah certainly don't need to go to uh those kind of lengths yeah to check covid i mean having been in china and having been through what i already consider kind of brutal customs agents and things there it was hard getting in and out of hong kong i hated it if they added this to the list i don't think i never go to china again yeah no i'm with you like this would
Starting point is 00:46:42 If we found out that they were doing this kind of test when we went to Ireland, I think we'd start looking at other options, other travel options. Get up a hair, put down her pants and get ready for a swab. Exactly, yes. All right. Can hamburger? Right between the Blarnie Stones. You'll have to figure out where that is, everybody.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Use your imagination. Here's a story about hamburger buns and whether they can save your pipes from freezing. yeah that's right the previous weather situation or recent weather situation in Texas has been a terrible disaster cold temperatures along with loss of power meant that many people have been stuck inside
Starting point is 00:47:20 their homes with no heat on top of that most of the houses and buildings in Texas are not designed for extended periods of below freezing temperatures this means that there have been many frozen and broken water pipes that is bad
Starting point is 00:47:31 having had a broken water pipe in my lifetime I can tell you it's horrendous and they don't bury their pipes very deep or insulate them very well down there because they don't need to you normally don't have this kind of problem.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But anyway, here's the deal. Everyone tries to make things work the best they can. There's photos. There was a photo that was making the rounds on Twitter, which data and social scientist, Ruman Chowdhury, snapped this photo outside of a fast food restaurant
Starting point is 00:47:59 in the Houston suburbs where some clever person had apparently attempted using a bunch of hamburger buns to insulate the pipe. Well, there you go. So just like your Chinese COVID swab, right. You just put your pipe right between the buns. Yeah, you put the pipe between the buns, and that's your third date. It says here, we live in a world of H2O.
Starting point is 00:48:19 There's water. That's water with the gas. What? There's water. I'm sorry, there's water as gas, water vapor. This is wired, just wired.com, just chewing up the internet with there. Hey, we got you. Now we're going to just explain water to you. Yeah, and they go on to say why it would break and everything else. But this guy put buns on there. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Good job there, man. See if I can show the chat room this photo. When life gives you lemons, use hamburger buns. Yeah, use the buns. Here's a photo for you. Those are the kinds of buns, but here's the actual. Do you think it works better with sesame seeds or without? I'm going to say without.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Wouldn't you think? I don't know. I'm thinking, yeah. It seems right to me. There you go. See that? We just jammed a full of hamburger buns. Pretty smart.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Pretty smart. Well done. Also, those buns, I've eaten enough McDonald's buns and know that they don't decay, so they'll stay there forever. That's there and they're in there for good. That's right. Exactly. The tape will last less time than the buns that it's holding on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:17 We're grateful to Ruman Chowdhury for his photo. Thank you, Ruman Chowdhury. Nothing wrong with his name. Just, you know, pointing it out. It's got a weird name. That's a normal Houston name, if I ever heard one. Yeah, if I've ever heard of a Houston name, that's one of them. All right, we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:49:32 When we come back, we'll spend some time with Bill. We've got a question from a listener for him. We're loving these. Keep these coming, everybody. We love these questions for our maker segment. And, of course, major spoilers after that. We'll talk a little bit about whether San Diego Comic-Con is a no-show this year or not. We have some thoughts on that.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Maybe a little Wanda vision wrap up as well. So come on back for all that in a moment after Brian plays this song. Excellent. Well, speaking of Ireland, got an email from Yogan Moylan, who is one-half of the indie duo, known as the new Ravis, or Ravis from Galway. they you know had a big 2019 tour plan 2020 of course and stuff fell through as we all know so he's they're both really excited to get back into venues to perform for audiences and meantime they recorded this kind of in response to COVID great song here here's the new Ravis with a brand new single the city's coming down we used to die When the summer fell so long And now I don't know your name I guess I don't know you at all
Starting point is 00:50:47 Because we don't really talk And we can't really hear But when the leaves turned by and the walls came down Oh it all became so clear You used to give me love so free It's free as the breath you breathe When the money dried up in your lungs caught blood It was time to come me free
Starting point is 00:51:14 Ah, aye, aye, aye The city's coming down There wasn't going to crumble to the tunnels And you're loving it now The city's coming down The walls are going to crumble to the tunnels And you're loving it now Give me on lights don't guide me
Starting point is 00:51:38 Don't guide me anymore But when the streets ran red and the walls came down Well at least I can see the shore And when the sea came up to my neck And my hope began to drown Well I thought that your face in a buntow Room in a tattered wedding down The city's coming down
Starting point is 00:52:08 The walls are going to crumble to the tunnels And you're loving it now The city's coming down The walls are going to crumble to the tombs And you're loving it now And I saw you last night On the banks of the river running red with wine And we started to cry
Starting point is 00:52:30 The city's coming down and we're both know why The city's coming down The city's coming now The city's coming now Oh, the city's coming now. City's coming now. Oh, yeah, that's time to talk about Blue Chew. Yeah, that's right.
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Starting point is 00:54:59 All of a sudden, I heard a big boom. I looked back out my door, an electric pole fell in the lines with the following. And there's a guy, come out screaming and squalling, running around, about like a chicken with head cut off. I told him he needed to get out of water. But see, I didn't know he was getting eaten up with bees. I thought he was just high. What is it about chocolate that makes a smile? This is the morning stream with Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbett.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Bonsai! All right, we're back, everybody. Welcome back to the show. The gear in the chat. Like, I can tell you right now there's no SDCC because they already announced it. I know. We were doing a teaser. It's a teaser, man.
Starting point is 00:55:55 We're trying to tease. We're teasing it. Well, thank you. You answer the television news crew as well when they say, what three things in your bathroom will kill you before you know it. Yeah, then come back at a little, you have to wait until 1115. It's the toilet paper, the listerine, and the crest, duh. But only when used at the same time.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Together, yes. That's the only time it's really a problem. All right. Let's get Bill in. Let's do it. Let's stick Bill in it. Let's make him. Put a little bill in it.
Starting point is 00:56:27 We liked it, so we're going to put a bill in it. Yeah. We're going to put a bill in it. a bill on it because we liked it so we put a bill on it oh wait he has to i have to play his thing though hold on here it is your bat caves open there bill yes that's right signifying the first guest of the week uh that sound means that bill durand is here from his maker shop all the way up in seattle washington where he makes all kinds of stuff comes on here and gives us cool advice about the world of makers bill welcome back to the show hello hi yeah it's good to be here
Starting point is 00:56:56 yeah it's good i want to dive into the question that you had but first super quick we just put up a video on YouTube last week I made a prop from Highlander and I wasn't done talking about Highlander so we put up another video where I talk about Highlanders more so if you're in Highlander and you haven't
Starting point is 00:57:13 got enough from me we got a new video up so did it's just me talking about my swords did that movie have that movie just had like some kind of anniversary or something right because I saw there's all sorts of stuff being posted about Highlander and it wasn't just you Clancy Brown put up a big post on Twitter
Starting point is 00:57:29 about his role as the currigan and uh well yeah march 7th 1986 was its release date so yesterday would have been its uh 35 years 35 year okay so that must be it yeah so there you go yeah big anniversary for for for the only good highlander movie anyway why wasn't why wasn't i following clancy brown on twitter yeah what's your deal to a bunch of pictures from this yeah look at him look at him standing by his car dude. He looks like a freaking badass. He's so cool back then. Oh, and then him and his Kyrgyn outfit? Yeah. My God. Yeah. I say Kiergen. I'm going to follow that guy. Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan. Anyway, it's good to have you here. We do get questions
Starting point is 00:58:15 from folks at home. And I would like to put the email address out one more time just to remind people. If you've got a question for Bill and how he does stuff or questions about, you know, or maybe you heard him say a thing and you have a better idea, whatever. We don't care. The morning stream at gmail.com and let us know like this one from brent k from missouri right m o missouri yeah uh he says hi scott brian and bill i have a question for bill today any tips on how to keep organized with all the little bits and bobs and parts that you have around or you need around for various builds i have tables covered in crap and no great way to sift through it do you have some miracle advice for those of us who are less prone to organization when doing our builds thanks brent k from missouri
Starting point is 00:58:56 this seems like a good one and one I could benefit from even though I have a different disorganization problem but you know probably some advice for everybody here so what would you say absolutely yes so if you are in any way a maker of things then keeping those tools and materials and the finished things that you make organized is a lifelong pursuit you will never be done with it just so you know You can try, but it's not going to happen. Yes. So just keep in mind, you will perpetually acquire more things.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It's very unlikely that the older I get, the less stuff I will have. It's very much the other way around. The philosophy you have towards organizing all of those things will change over time. So, for example, I have been a lifelong maker, but the past decade or so, I've taken it pretty seriously, right? Sure. So I've acquired a lot. of stuff. Some may say a staggering amount of stuff
Starting point is 01:00:00 they would be right. I've moved workshops a couple of times so I started in a living room, then I moved to a two-car garage, then a basement, and now I'm in a 2,300 square foot warehouse and I don't know what's next. So like the setting for all of this stuff changes over time.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Right. That means your approach towards organizing, it will change over time as well. So here are a handful of things that I consider, as I ponder my organization scheme and I do that like every once in a while I'll be in my shop and I'll I'll stroke my beard and I'll look around and go hmm yeah I should build some new shelves or I should take all of that stuff and put it over there that definitely makes better sense do you ever feel like
Starting point is 01:00:49 it's uh before you get to these actual tips you ever feel like it's like professional hoarding almost because you just love this stuff you have right you don't want to get rid of it yeah i feel like if if it was a lot less organized then it would be very difficult to tell the difference between my workshop and the house of a hoarder the organization is kind of the same the amount of stuff doesn't matter the state of this stuff does yeah yeah no i understand whether or not you can get the thing you want when you need it right because the whole point of having the stuff we're talking about here is that you need that little size screw or that clamp or that paint thing or whatever and if you can't reach it or can't get to it then what's the point of having it so here here's a handful of things
Starting point is 01:01:31 one uh the first thing when it comes to drawers and putting stuff in the drawers giving an entire drawer to one tool is a bit much right however the opposite one drawer with all of your tools in it is equally useless. So there's a happy spot for every tool that you have. So if you have a drawer that's twofold to be useful, take some of that stuff out, and if you have tools that are more used than others,
Starting point is 01:02:01 give them a dedicated place in your shop. They're special. You use them all the time. So for example, I have a magnet strip over my main workbench that's got like the Xacto knives I use, a couple of screwdrivers I use, a whole bunch of little doodads.
Starting point is 01:02:19 They're right there, right in front of me when I need them. They don't live in a drawer. Sure. The most used rotary tool bits that I have live on a magnet strip next to the rotary tool. But the hundreds of spare bits that I have, they go on a sort of chemo case. It's labeled and everything. I know where it is. So if I have to get it, I can go find it.
Starting point is 01:02:39 But the bulk of those things, they tucked away somewhere. This one, man, two things. The first one is everything has a place and it goes back to that place before the end of the day, right? And that doesn't just mean tools. Your materials, molds, paints, everything at the end of your work, whatever you're doing, productive that day, everything goes back. Unless you're going to use it the next day, in which case I like to organize it on my workbench so that when I come in the next day, everything I need is right there. So everything goes back in its place and it has a place, right? that's critical.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But then also tidying up as you work has changed my workflow dramatically over the past couple of years. And I really started doing it after I read Adam Savage's book, Every Tool's a Hammer. He talks a lot about organizing all your stuff and being productive and coming up with a workshop philosophy. So I recommend, obviously, reading that book too. The biggest takeaway I think I had was that I'm constantly, like if I'm waiting for a bit of glue to dry. It's going to take 10 seconds for the super glue to dry. I take it and I just tidy up my workbench, right? Kind of line everything up, null everything. And if I notice stuff that doesn't need to be used anymore, I pick it up and put it away. And that means
Starting point is 01:04:02 at the end of the day when it's time to tidy up, I'm basically already done. And everything's been put back in its place. It takes so much discipline to do that though. It does. You have to do it every single time. And I'm so prone to getting in the zone and building something and then you look up after a couple hours actually here's the here's the scenario you start a project and you go this one I'm going to be tidy I'm going to be so tight I'm put everything
Starting point is 01:04:25 where it needs to go two hours later you look up and every tool that you own is on your workbench it's overflowing there's no space to put any that's what you're fighting against constantly so it's that every 20 minutes or so I just take a look around my work bench
Starting point is 01:04:41 and say what can I tidy up what can I put away that has changed to every everything. And then when it comes to organizing small stuff or anything, some kind of container system needs to be implemented. So we have these larger plastic bins that come in a variety of sizes. They're see-through so I can see what's in those plastic bins when they're up on the shelf. We use that for all sorts of stuff, like all of my Tamia brand paints go in one of those. All of my all-clad brand paints go in another one. Oh, interesting. Separate by brand. That's, I wouldn't have found out. Yeah. And then, well,
Starting point is 01:05:15 Well, I have enough of every single brand of paint to do that. Other people might not. Maybe all of your acrylic paints go in one container. Maybe all your lacquers go in another container, that sort of thing. But having a system is what's critical. What that system is is kind of up to you. Yeah. You can take advice from other people, but it feels like you're going to have to,
Starting point is 01:05:35 whatever you do, it's going to be structured around what you do and not, that's never going to be the same, right? Everyone's different the way to do it. Absolutely, yeah. No one has the same set of stuff that I do. All right. And then for smaller things, small part organization and storage. I use store chemo cases.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I've talked about them before. You can get similar, cheaper ones from Stanley and other companies. But the idea is it's a large briefcase size container, and in it are a bunch of smaller containers where you can put nuts and bolts and other little things. And each different one gets its own container and it gets labeled. to wrap this whole thing up, label everything. So I bought a dedicated label maker. It was like 60 bucks.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Brother makes it. It's totally fine. You type in a little thing and it prints out a perfect little label and everything in my shop is covered in them. So not only can I find the stuff I need when I need to, but if someone else came into my shop to do something, they can just look at the wall of paint containers and grab the paint that they want.
Starting point is 01:06:41 or they can look in my Sortimo case and within moments get exactly the screws they need. It helps me. It helps other people label everything. You don't need a label maker. You can get a white out marker or something. Those are really good. That's I was going to ask if you had any like,
Starting point is 01:06:56 I picture you with a little making, walking around with that label maker thing and squeezing it and doing your letters and everything, but you could print out. You could print labels. You can do whatever you, you know, whatever feels good, I guess, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Whatever. Yeah, I have, actually,
Starting point is 01:07:09 I bought one of those old school like vinyl squeasy label makers Oh yeah the ones that presses the letter through the black tape Yes
Starting point is 01:07:18 So I got that I had to buy one specifically to label my Ghostbusters PKE meter Oh yeah Yeah you'd want that For your
Starting point is 01:07:27 You're back to the future Delorian thing as well Yeah I don't actually use it To label things in my shop I got that only For a handful of props That needed it The label maker
Starting point is 01:07:41 that I use in the shop is like an electronic one with a screen and a keyboard. A fancy pants, new one. Yeah, I made the mistake of getting a Bluetooth one that like you can type out your labels on your phone. This thing never keeps its connection. It says
Starting point is 01:07:57 oh, pairing? Okay, I'm pairing. All right. And I get some labels out and then like two weeks later I need to print up some labels and do you have a printer? Let me pair with it. Just give me my old one back. I give it to Tristan. I want to it back. Is your printer low on cyan?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Guess what? You can't scan anything. Nope. Nope. That's how they get you, dude. They're like, hey, this thing's only 50 bucks. It's black and white. I mean, it's a little black and white Dymo bluepiler, but it's still pain in the butt.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Yeah, that's no good. Well, label everything in your life. That's my final bit of advice for organization, but really it comes down to you working in your shop a lot. And I'm discovering what your system is going to be. Right. Do you have any tricks for when you go out there and you're like,
Starting point is 01:08:50 when you see something becoming a problem, right? Like it's just a little overwhelming. And you know you've got like eight projects to do and they're all going to be more fun than this. Like what's your motivating factor? What tells you to say, nope, I need to take this half an hour and do this thing so that down the road I'm more organized. I know where that part is or I know where that tool is. Like, what do you use for your own personal mojo when that comes around? This is something I know that Adam does a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:17 When I'm working on another project and I hit a roadblock, instead of stopping, I will switch gears and work on shop infrastructure. That way, my head is working on the problem in the background. I'm still being productive and I'm not dwelling on the thing I can't finish right now. You know, I'm still working on something. So it's not that I look for time to work on shop infrastructure. It's when I have something else I don't want to work on right now. I'll say, hey, let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Let's go sort all my taps. Yeah, yeah. And it's fun. It's great. It's like it's almost mindless. I can zone out for like half an hour while I sort through stuff and make labels. And then a lot of times my brain will be like, oh, a thing you were working on, got it. They're like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:10:08 I can put this stuff aside and go for me. that project. Nice. So yeah, it's, it's an tool or shop organization is an ongoing thing and it should pop up everyone once in a while and I think that if people just look for opportunities when you're waiting
Starting point is 01:10:23 for glue to dry, you know, oh, it's got to take two hours for that that marine grade epoxy to cure. Two hours. Well, why don't I just spend that two hours clean the shop? Why don't I do that? Yeah. Cool. And then I'm not trying to pick the thing up before it's dried or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:39 That's a good idea. So look for opportunities like that. Yeah, Brian, Brian and I were, you know, we obviously aren't running shops, although Brian, Brian's enough stuff going on with like 3D printing. 3D printing, yeah, but I actually do use a similar thing, the briefcase thing you described from Harbor Freight. Super cheap, these harbor freight, little divider cases. Do I have a harbor freight here?
Starting point is 01:11:00 I think I do. Don't we? Don't I? Hold on. Is that a thing everyone's got? And I just haven't been there because I'm laying here. I mean, I know there, I know that they're all around the country. I don't know if.
Starting point is 01:11:09 they're everywhere, like in every state. But I was zipped in there on Friday to buy a one-ton arbor press. Oh, my Lord. What does that do for you? Tell us what that is. It squishes things with leverage. Oh, wow. I was doing some stuff with stamps.
Starting point is 01:11:26 So, like, you could do like a really good grill cheese thing in that. Oh, the best. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. There are. Paper thin. They're like 30 locations in the Watsatch Front. They're all over the place here.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Grill cheese tortilla basically is a word. They're all over here. I don't know why I've never seen one. They're everywhere. That's like, you go into there and it's like, oh, I could use a box that has 48 tools in it. Sure. And it's $3.99. Okay, I'll get that.
Starting point is 01:11:51 And floor mats are like $5 for a case of floor mats. I mean, if you're getting into doing stuff like the turning mats into armor, that's a really good place to get some prep to practice. Well, I need to organize. I'm going to Harbor Freight. I'm finding some stuff. Oh, I have tons of organization stuff. That's fantastic. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Well, this has all been very good. Bill, anything else going on in around your world before we let you go today? Yeah, got a great video to share. It's this maker called W&M Levisha, L-E-V-S-H-A. He made a round dice set. This is some machining porn right here. Let me tell you. Brass and stainless steel.
Starting point is 01:12:35 That's gorgeous. Looks like an old-timey pencil. sharpeners what that looks like. It kind of does it, but it's, it's for rolling two D6s technically, but it's not a four-sided or six-sided diet. It's two-send. It's really cool. That is so cool.
Starting point is 01:12:50 That's really cool. You roll up to your D&D game with one of those things, people are going to know you're serious. That is so rad. The only way you get it, like people are convinced that it's going to be accurately random is if that thing has a good like
Starting point is 01:13:06 30 seconds spin on it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow, look at this. This is the stuff that really blows my mind the most. I feel like I'm the least qualified forever. Like, I just could, I don't know if I could ever do any. I guess if I had the right tools and time and training.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I figured out how to do lead stuff like that. You can figure it out too, Scott. It's pretty easy. Things spins. You just jam stuff into it until it looks the round and the way you want it to be. I guess so. It started off with a stainless steel bar like I have here in my hand. This thing is, this thing is like.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Like seven pounds of solid steel. Oh, yeah, look at that, dude. Where did you get that? What's that from? From my grandfather's garage. When he passed away and my grandmother, we moved my grandmother to assisted living. We had to clean their garage and their house. And he had so many tools and things like pinball ball bearings and things like that.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to use it for, but I'm taking this stainless steel cylinder. I would have totally done that. This thing is so heavy. That's rad. I love old grandpa's garages were the greatest things on this planet. Oh, man, I have memories of all that stuff. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, how have you do to this thing is?
Starting point is 01:14:18 The soup's on or fries are done. All right, excellent stuff, as always. Go check those guys out. And also, of course, punish props.com, where you'll find all of Bill's fine work and his YouTube channel as well. Bill, thanks for hanging out with us, and we'll see you next week. Yep. He said, see you the way Justin says it.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Freaked me out for a second. Don't like it. I thought we had Justin for a second. Yeah. We don't need two days of Justin. I mean, come on. No. I have to do A&P.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Especially when we get him tonight, too. Yeah. I got to listen to this stuff. I haven't done that yet. It's all right. You've only got two to listen to this time. It'll be easier. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Is that true? Yeah, that is true. Yeah, yeah, two teams. Because we're narrowing down the teams. We're getting the eliminations that are happening in rapid succession here. All right. Here's this, everyone. Enjoy this right here.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Steven. Schleiker. Steven Schlecker Hey, it is Steven Schlecker from Major Spoilers.com He's based in Hayes, Kansas, but don't let that fool you. He's got a worldwide grasp on all things nerd.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Hey, I'm going to call you Bill again. Hello there, Stephen. Welcome. Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian. How are you guys? Good. Good. Doing okay. I guess I have to tell you something before we get moving here. You didn't watch Wanda Vision. No, I did. I'm all good. I saw it all. We'll talk about that, too, because I want to talk.
Starting point is 01:15:37 We'll save that for the end. but I don't know why I like these gimmicky one-off DC things. I've gotten so into stuff like just or not justified. It's called. Crap, they're based on the games. They're based on the fighting games. Help me. Oh, injustice.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Injustice. Injustice 1 and 2. I'm now into the second series, which came years later when the second game came out. and I love those comics. They're so good. I mean, I know they're kind of alternate university, you know, Superman's in trouble. They're definitely taking a different line. And, you know, there's a lot of deaths and things that are clearly not,
Starting point is 01:16:21 no one's dead yet in other continuums of the comics and stuff like that. And I know that they're gimmicky and deceased, same thing. Deceased is all bad zombies. It's so, it should be dumb and like, you know, too pulpy for me. But I love them. So I don't know what that says about me, but I'm so into them right now. I can't stop. Well, I think one of the nice things about it is it does take what you think as going to be,
Starting point is 01:16:43 oh, here's another Superman comiker. Here's another Wonder Woman and Batman thing. And just kind of puts it on its ear so that you say, oh, okay, well, this is a different way of looking at it. Now, some people hate it when comic book creators do that. It's like, well, that's not how Superman's supposed to be. But, you know, it's just something different and go with it. You'll be back to your regular Superman before you know it. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
Starting point is 01:17:05 really enjoying it and uh can't say enough about some of the writing and art it's just it's not throw away like it should be it should be gimmicky garbage and it's not it's like well made and and funny and and and and kind of stark and interesting and a lot of what ifs and and i like what if i'm messing around with what ifs in my comics so it's a good time and uh if you if you have that dc infinite thing it's all in there so go check it yeah uh comic con are we getting one we're not are we? It's not happening. Well, so last year, San Diego Comic-Con, the in-person event was canceled because of the COVID-19. Pretty smart choice. I think, you know, that was the wise decision. But this year we've come around and San Diego has said, or Comic-Con international, has said,
Starting point is 01:17:48 you know what, we're not confident enough that everyone is going to be inoculated or that we're going to have enough safety protocols in place. So we're going to go ahead and we're going to make this year's July event virtual again. But if everything goes well, we may have an in-person event in San Diego in November of 2021. Oh, interesting. Okay. So, yeah, still leaving it open for a possible later event in the year.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Yeah. And I don't know. I was not super thrilled with how the virtual event went last year. Now, granted, they had like 15,000 people watching per panel. that they had and that's that's really good but when you compare a month later when DC did their DC fandom event they had something like 22 million people watching the event over 24 hour period so
Starting point is 01:18:40 one thing I would like to see Comic Con International do is kind of step up how they're doing those virtual events instead of just your average Zoom meeting where five minutes are spent going can you hear me can you hear me can you hear me that kind of stuff because I think that would be a lot better now here's the thing to hire podcasters and streamers like us because we actually know how that shit works.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Exactly. Now, here's the important thing. If you had Comic-Con International tickets for last year, San Diego Comic-Con tickets from last year, you had the option of rolling it over to this summer's event. Well, because this summer's event has now been canceled or postponed, you have the option of either taking that ticket and rolling it to the November event if it happens,
Starting point is 01:19:22 or you can take your 2020 San Diego Comic-Con ticket and roll it over to the July 22, convention. Interesting. That's kind of cool that they're doing that, giving you an option at least, right? Yeah, I think they want to make sure that people don't feel like they flushed their $130 or whatever those tickets are down the toilet. Yeah, I get that. Those are expensive, so. And that's, that's on the low end, right? Like, they're like the full three-day, whatever is like outrageous.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all your money. On the other hand, you know, Wizard World, which does a bunch of conventions as well, they're doubling down on the virtual events. In fact, they launched a whole. whole new lineup of like ticketed virtual events that go beyond just pop culture stuff. They're getting into like woodworking stuff and race car stuff and music stuff. They see the future of virtual conventions and that's what they're going to stake their claim on going forward. There's a bunch of that happening in games.
Starting point is 01:20:19 The gaming world is as quickly. I mean, this was already happening and maybe a slower rate, but E3 is getting less and less relevant and bigger companies like Sony and others have started pulling out of those events anyway. And then COVID hit and they're like, well, okay, well, let's just accelerate our plans here and just do a digital, you know, first thing. And we'll get all the eyeballs we wanted. And we don't need this anymore. Like, honestly, when things get back to normal and they can hold actual events, I think that'll happen. But it will be more like, hey, Sony's having an event or Microsoft's having an event or whatever. We don't, we no longer need.
Starting point is 01:20:57 an association to bring them all together for E3, despite the, whatever grand tradition people feel about it, that's changing. So it doesn't surprise me to hear that. Here's my hope, especially with San Diego Comic-Con, is that, yes, there is something special about going to an in-person event, whether that's nerdtacular or whether that's San Diego Comic-Con. Being there is really, really cool. The thing that would be a little bit more inclusive for people who can't go, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:25 the convention center only has a 130,000 participant, you know, max capacity, it would be great if San Diego learned something from this COVID time and said, hey, maybe we need to look at investing and streaming our non-H panels to the rest of the world for people who can't attend. I still think people will go in droves to go and get the exclusive merch to meet their favorite creators, etc. But for some of us who want to, sit and watch a particular panel being able to tune in at a specific time over that three-day period to watch it on YouTube and watch it stream, I think would be a great thing for these conventions to start doing.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Yep. Just in general. COVID out of the equation. Just that stuff in general makes sense. We have the technology. We're at a place where we can do it. And you're going to get more eyeballs this way anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 We're just nearing a new thing. Now, San Diego's got this special thing, though, right? Like where it's like, where else are you going to get? massive cosplay stuff or, you know, all that. Well, I mean, I don't know. I would go to the Anaheim convention, the Emerald City Comic-Con, the New York Comic-Con, all these. I mean, all these other conventions are doing a lot of the same things that San Diego Comic-Con does. The biggest thing that San Diego has over most of the rest, though, are the media stuff because they're just down the road from Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:22:47 It's easy to either train, you know, bus or fly people in to be on those panels for an afternoon and then get them the heck out of San Diego and that's what's packing those panels. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miravine in the chat saying Blizcon should be both live and virtual. No, they do that every year. They've had, they've had... They've done that for a couple of years, right? They literally have something called the virtual six or seven years, something like that. Even longer
Starting point is 01:23:08 than that, yeah. Oh, really? Okay. You pay for it and you get, you know, you get every panel, everything, every whatever. Used to be tied in with direct TV like you could pay for. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One year, I think they did that. I don't know if it didn't work out or what the deal was, but yeah. But these days, they just stream
Starting point is 01:23:24 all on their site. Doing their own. Well, yes, they didn't do both this year, J.C. We are aware of that. Well, anyway, this is, it's an interesting world to see these changes come to, but I mean, my argument is this just accelerated those changes. They were already kind of happening. They were beginning.
Starting point is 01:23:44 And we'll see how it shakes out in the end. Let's talk a little bit about the end of Wanda Vision. Now, I'm not sure how any series could ever satisfy everybody in terms of the way it lands it's a finale but if you followed Twitter you certainly know that's a that's true yeah yes you can't please everybody
Starting point is 01:24:00 I tried to avoid all that because screw that but I really enjoyed the run I think the final episode crammed a lot of stuff into a small space and that was that's hard that's always hard to do
Starting point is 01:24:13 and hard to pull off properly so I think they maybe could have used a little bit more time for the entire series really maybe you go 12 episodes 12 episodes yeah something like that however I have no regrets about the trip I took.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I really enjoyed all of it. And I'm on the other side of it thinking that we have not given Paul Bettney enough respect over the last, his whole career. He's so great. So he brings such a level of gravitas to a character that's kind of goofball, you know, like, especially the way they portray it in this. But, you know, the vision, you've seen the collar in the 70s comics. Like, you know what's going on. And that thing's terrible. Like, there's no way to really do that well for, for TV, for sure.
Starting point is 01:24:57 And I really liked it. I liked the whole, I don't know if this is, maybe it's spoilery, but the stuff with the albino version of him, I don't know what he's called in the comics. You guys would know, because you're white vision. I don't know, yeah. Ghost vision, whatever. Yeah. Ghost vision. That was really, really cool.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Double vision. Yeah, double vision. Which I put, I did this on Twitter, I wrote double vision and that was it. No context. Total sub tweet. Oh, okay. Other people going, oh, it's the worst. Whenever I get it, I have a kid.
Starting point is 01:25:24 I'm like, no, no, you missed my subtle joke. It's about two visions. They thought you're, like I was having double vision. Right, right. That's how I like to announce my ailments. Ankle hurts or ingrown toenails. Scott uses Twitter as WebMD. But anyway, I really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I bit, did you feel good by the end? I did, too. Yeah, I was, it's funny because I have a buddy who was also really into it. And we went to trivia Thursday night, and he's saying, so what do you think happened? I guess this probably would be, if you haven't gotten off because you're worried about spoilers, now would be a good time,
Starting point is 01:26:01 although I'm not going to go into too much detail. But he's saying, oh, no, I think there's still going to be a big bad. Like, this is the night before the episode was released. I think there's still going to be a bigger bad. And I'm thinking, no, we would have gotten that. Maybe in the next to last episode,
Starting point is 01:26:14 we wouldn't introduce a big bad in the very last episode just to have that get resolved in the last episode. as well. Especially when this was a finite series, right? Yeah. Exactly. He also said, well, what happens to the kids? What happens to Vision?
Starting point is 01:26:29 And I pretty much told him my prediction, which was accurately what happened in the last episode. And I think you can go to like so many different people's YouTube's where they had all these outlandish predictions like, oh, it's going to be Mephisto and oh, it's going to be this and that and this. And I think a lot of the anger that came out online were from some of the. and their predictions being wrong. And it's like, well, it's not your choice
Starting point is 01:26:58 what the story is that they want to tell. So, yeah, you were wrong. And now, you know, you're banking on it for your subscribers. But oh, well, you know, it's, uh, it's having fun with it. This week in the Major Spoilers Weekly, which is an email that goes out. People can sign up for free over at Major Spoilers.com. That's what the whole letter was about this week was, well, Wanda Vision didn't use my fan theory.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And it's like, no, they don't have to. Because they are being, the writers and the directors and everybody are following three tenets. Number one, they have to be true to themselves. And they set out to tell a story about somebody who is going through great grief, who made an error in judgment that affected a lot of people. And in the process, she had to go back and correct that error. So they're being totally true to themselves. And we see evolution of that character in that.
Starting point is 01:27:43 And they have to be true to their producer. Kevin Feige is, you know, knows he has a bigger vision for what's going on with the MCU. so they have to satisfy his needs in wants. And then the third thing is satisfying audience needs in wants, but not in a way that you have to say, oh, I have a say in how the creation of this product works. Disney, other major corporations look at us as consumers. They want you to consume.
Starting point is 01:28:09 They don't care whether you like or don't like something. They just want you to consume. And so when you understand those three tenets of what goes into creating something, then from the very, you know, And I think I need to go back and do a little bit more research, but I was thinking about this this morning. Marvel doesn't do anything as a as a huge surprise, right? You know, very early on, they will show you a big bad. They will show you who the villain of a movie is very early on.
Starting point is 01:28:39 And very rarely does it turn out to be something else. I was just thinking about Dr. Strange and how, you know, when Mads Mikkelson goes on nuts at the beginning, he's already working for more Drew at that point. and he even says it so it's no surprise then when he you know when when wardrew shows up later it's like well they told you this at the very beginning yeah so yeah it was never going to be mafist mefisto i've gone off before about how disney has in the last couple of years really doubled down on the fact that disney means family and family entertainment means no cursing no bloody violent as the big bad and definitely no satan go look on your disney plus right now and see if you can find devil and max devlin Also, it's got Bill Cosby on it, and that's the other reason.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah, that's the other reason. Yeah, what was the Elizabeth, oh, man, it was a remake, not Devil and Max Devlin, but there was another one, the Devils, like where, where Elizabeth, why am I forgetting her name, married to Hugh Grant for a long time. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know which one you're talking about. There was a remake of the movie where I think Dudley Moore and, yes, yeah, it's another one you're never going to see on Disney Plus. Yep, exactly. Hurley, thank you. Yeah, Elizabeth Hurley. Elizabeth Hurley, that's it was.
Starting point is 01:29:53 I couldn't think of it yet. So, jazzled, right. So does, I was, I had a thing to add to that and I forgot what it was. It was pretty good, too. Boy, it was the devil. Devil and Max Devils. No, I was really boiling up. Elizabeth Hurley.
Starting point is 01:30:05 It was boiling up in my guts here and I don't remember what it was. I guess. Family means it, Disney. Oh, I know what it is. I don't know why that if somebody says, you know what's going to happen. Ian McKellen's going to show up. He'll be Magneto. He'll just be there at the end or whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:18 come on like i i get that i get that you've got some decent theories i get that they're fun theories i get that you like to explore those things but when they don't happen i don't know who feels like they have the right to be all mad about that that's when you come out with a theory you've got to be prepared for it to be wrong somebody on twitter that i was talking to thought well they're going basically turn scarlet witch into dark phoenix and i said no i mean they pretty much already have a scarlet witch and scarlet witch you know who's who's uh chaos power is kind of destructive and we got into a wasn't certainly wasn't a heated discussion it was very friendly discussion no i saw that that twin exchange yeah well but so here's the thing and we've talked about
Starting point is 01:30:57 this before having fan theories is great because we can come on the morning stream and we can talk about them we can tweet each other about them we can go online and share them with other people we can go to our water coolers or our comic book shops or wherever we can talk about man did you see wonder vision oh my gosh how great it was what do you think's going to happen next and we can go and we can talk all we want and that is half the fun right that is the most fun is because you're now engaged with that media as opposed to, oh, did you watch Wanda Vision last night? Yeah, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:31:24 See, Bob. I've got to go do some accounting right now. That's the fun part. It's literally the journey. Not only just the hero's journey that we see happen with Wanda and her revelation, if you follow the story circle or however you want to follow it, but it's also the journey that the audience gets to take with that. And I think a lot of people just kind of miss that part of all the fun that we had
Starting point is 01:31:43 for the last nine weeks, or if you're Scott, the last four and a half weeks, all that fun that we've had. I maintain, by the point of enjoying this content. I maintain, to my dying breath, the best way to watch that show isn't as big a chunk as you can get it, either the entire thing or five episodes at once. Like, I think that show suffers from being too spread out, and it's not the kind of thing you want, you want to binge it, you want to just eat it. For sure.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I'm happy I agree. I wish they would have given the first three episodes all at once because it needs. Do you need that breaking of the fourth? wall in the third episode to to really make you feel like you know where this series is going and it's not just going to be, ah, we're making fun of the Dick Van Dyke show. Ah, we're making fun to bewitched.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Yeah, because they had, I mean, they had a couple of moments. They had the colored light in the one black and white commercial. They had this, where the dude choked, that was clearly off script. Right. So they had these moments that were supposed to make you feel like, oh, discordant, this isn't, something's wrong.
Starting point is 01:32:45 But Brian's right. They didn't really give us a, of any of that until the third, fourth episode or whatever. I really enjoyed like cranking and it was also just this like, oh, I gotta keep going, got to keep going. And I didn't know there were going to be two post credits
Starting point is 01:33:00 things at the end of this last one, and there were. The last one, I assume Rambo's talking about, because she meets with a, not krill, what are they called? Cree. Cree? No, she's like, those are scrolls. Scroll, that's what I meant, scroll.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Yeah. I watched Under Siege and there's a guy named Krill. played by Gary Bucy. Anyway. So there's a scroll there at the end and then she's like, your old pal needs to see you. She's talking about,
Starting point is 01:33:27 she's talking about Nick Fury. Nick Fury, right? Yeah, he's up there on the spaceship with the other schools. Sort of light. So what is that? Do you think, this is just a question? Because again, now we're just fan theorying.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Is this them draping together this to a movie? Or is this them draping this to another show? Because I've heard some people go, oh, we're getting a Monica Rambo spin-off. It's to a movie. we know that Monica Rambo is going to be in Captain Marvel 2
Starting point is 01:33:52 and probably more fully on as photon or spectrum or whatever version of that she's going to be yeah I liked her a lot I kept thinking that her hair would be hard to manage
Starting point is 01:34:07 it would just be hard to keep you know what I mean she has a lot of everybody like everybody I think that of everybody but vision he's just like you know metal bald guy don't have to worry about that Exactly. I can relate to you, Viz. But I'll give you, I'll give them credit in that finale for spending some money on effects.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I thought the fights in the air looked great. Like that stuff felt like film, film level quality stuff. And I never once went, oh, well, we really went the cheap route on this TV show. And they kind of did spend it all in one episode, but still, it held up and, you know, felt like it fit in the universe without feeling like it was a separate TV thing, which I liked a lot. So bring on the Falcon and Zippy Head and let's go. with the fake arm and the and the and who's who who wants to use the shield business let's go let's make that happen on the 19th I'm ready coming yeah I mean it's what week and a half two weeks that we that it comes so we can a week from Friday and and in between you've got a chance to
Starting point is 01:35:02 watch Marvel Legends which sets up uh these are great like especially if you've got a family member who wasn't as into the MCU stuff as you were you can have them watch these little minisodes of Marvel Legends which sets up all four of the characters where the primary characters we're going to get in a falcon winter soldier nice yep well start your fan theories everybody yep that's right I think they're going to get married by the end of the
Starting point is 01:35:26 series yeah that seems about right they'll fly off together with falcons wings and I'm going to be so mad at Disney I'm going to cancel Disney if they don't do that yeah they better do that my fan theory better come through or forget it I'm out I'm going to subscribe to Paramount Plus that's my next subscription
Starting point is 01:35:42 right go watch that real world yeah why not hey well this has been great Steven Schlecker, always a pleasure to hang out, but we always like to make sure people know about what's happening on your network and what's happening within your space. Why don't you tell them where to go and what to do? Well, like I said, if you want to get some of my weekly reflections on things that are going on on pop culture or other things, head over to major spoilers.com and sign up for the major spoilers weekly, which is an email that comes out once a week. We're not going to flood you with junk every other day, like some email subscriptions that you may accidentally subscribe to when you go to those sites.
Starting point is 01:36:15 comes out once a week's original content you're not going to find anywhere else but it's a place where you can go and say oh what you know what is what a seaman thing about this Wanda vision controversy well I already talked about that I've talked before about you know what I thought about as going on with DC comics and them being sold off not going to happen
Starting point is 01:36:31 and a bunch of other things so go check that out it's the major spoilers weekly nice uh that's go check that out Stephen always a pleasure we'll talk to you soon stay hydrated hydrated Everything. Stay hydra.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Hail hydra. He said on his way off. He said, hell, I heard it. I heard it. He's Baron Zevon. All right. Let's get in here and make us a fun time at the end of the show. That's not right, is it?
Starting point is 01:36:59 What am I trying to say? That's the guy that created, that used Hydra to help create a werewolf in London. There it is. Zemo. Berenzimos are you talking about? Yeah, Zemo. Warren Zvon got in there somehow. That was stupid.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Let's do a mashup. This is a Monday morning mashup. Brought to you by TMS mashups, Jamie, and this one is called GHWB. Don't know why. You'll find out when we do, as I play it right now. Hey, everybody. Hey, you want to smoke? My face is a vagina and a penis.
Starting point is 01:37:30 I'm wearing sunglasses. Do you have a voice? I don't think he had a voice. No, he never had a voice. Nobody said anything, but. the following term, blender sofa. Can they go retrieve materials for me? No, they can lick your dirty bumhole.
Starting point is 01:37:51 No, well, that's all right. I guess I was trying to build a machine that was going to do that, so now I can't. So you would walk up to me and go, Blender Sofa, Blender Sofa, Blender Sofa, Blender Sofa, and then I'd go, Blender Sofa, like a question, and you'd say, Blender Sofa, it's so fun watching these two do it. Now I have to think for myself. No, who's the guy that did that really cool crossover rock Alis? album. Oh, my God. Why can I not remember? Stevie Ray Vaughan. Shoot. Chandler Candleer.
Starting point is 01:38:20 All right. Now I'll look it up. All right. Pinrose, Von, Stipend. Yeah, I see it all the time. Just poking it's that out going, hey, remember me? We got to keep this cock here. He can't go anywhere. He's staying here. Oh, my God. Just picturing this chicken pacing the floor. Come on, when are you going to get me out of here? You dirty screws?
Starting point is 01:38:41 I want to talk to my lawyer, see? I say, I say, I want Picture foghorn, leghorn, in jail, that's what I put there. I say, I demand to see my lawyer. Where's my lawyer? My, my, my, I say my lawyer. All right, what the hell am I doing?
Starting point is 01:38:57 Most people with the vaccine are not in the right range for OKCupid or freaking, you just have to come to my nursing home and pick me up and take me out for soda. I just need to be back by six o'clock bedtime. Yeah, we could have intercourse in the car. You clean your toilet once a week. Oh, just come take me now. Take me now. He had anally inserted 15 boiled and peeled eggs while under the influence of GHB.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Ah, sure. Yeah. The old GHB, sure. Watch out George Herbert Walker Bush. Right? Yeah. He was under his influence. He's watching old tape and him going, I want to read TACs, read my lips, no new taxes.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Oh, put the eggs up my bum. Put them in. When he finished, they put up a big sign that said mission accomplished. And yes, we know that was Bush Jr. who put up the sign of Mission Accomplished. We know. We covered that after that episode or during that episode. Just for context, keep your emails to yourselves. Send us emails about other things, is what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Well done, Jamie, as always a pleasure to play those. And you always know how to find the stupid stuff we say. So thanks for doing your job. It's not really his job. We don't pay him a thing for it. He gets a zip. He gets nothing from us. He has a Patreon he runs for doing it, though.
Starting point is 01:40:16 People can support it if they want to. Go to Patreon.com as TMS. Or, you know, TMS mashups. All right. A quick bit of info or the thing here that we got to mention. What? Today's Monday. So Monday means that nothing.
Starting point is 01:40:32 It means nothing. I was trying to think we had another. I'm so glad we've established this. I thought another show coming up. Now I think about it, I don't. well you do but nothing that they can watch live yeah they got we had an tp tonight but that's for us not for you yet but uh anyway i might be i need to keep going in that little nightmares too thing so maybe that'll happen today i'll let you guys know just keep your eye on the prize
Starting point is 01:40:54 and uh full week of tms and everything else we like to do so stick around for it we are at patreon dot com slash tms for those who like to support us it's a brand new month so why not get in now now is the time a dollar a month is all you'd have to even start with and there's great things beyond that so go check it out the morning stream at gmail.com is our email address and you can find everything else at frogpans.com slash tms. All right. Tradition states we have to play a song. Do you want to Yeah. Right. Maybe. I mean if it's tradition. Jeez. Yeah. Baloney Ninja wrote in and said ballooning ninja is not just a listener to this show but also my second in command in our alliance in Marvel Strike Force.
Starting point is 01:41:38 When I eventually just throw my hands up and say, I can't play this stupid game anymore, I'm turning it all over to him. Let him manage these people. He wrote in and said, Hey, Snake and Beaver, long-time listener, an occasional requester. On February 18th,
Starting point is 01:41:55 yes, I'm getting to this late, because we had a big full end of February and not much in March so far. Hint. I become the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. 42. So, for this Day, I request a classical reimagining of one of the greatest songs of this millennium. The Leo Moracholi cover of the Korean Pinkfong song, Baby Shark.
Starting point is 01:42:19 I've never heard of Pinkfong. Me either. But I like that. Korean Pinkfong song Baby Shark, which as Brian Dunaway would sing it, is Baby Shark. Do, do, do, do. Yours in Kathulhu signed Bologna Ninja. So, this is the heavy metal version. as Leo Morachioly always produces these great metal covers of things.
Starting point is 01:42:43 It's a cover of the song Baby Shark that, listen, if it's going to get stuck in your head, this is the right version to get stuck in your head. So happy belated birthday, Bologna Ninja, and let's hear it for 42. Here is Baby Shark. Daddy Shard
Starting point is 01:43:12 Baby Shard Baby Shard Baby Shard Baby Shard Daddy Shark, do do do to do mommy, mommy shark, too do to do mommy shark. Daddy shark, do to do to do daddy shark to do daddy shark to do daddy shark to do daddy shark grandma shock to do do to do grandma shark to do to do grandma shark to do grandma shark Granda shark
Starting point is 01:43:58 Ramp a shark Ramp a shark Run away to do to do do do do to run away to run away to run away to run away Run away! You know, and I'm going to be able to be a lot of it. Shame and loss Chase and love To do to lose
Starting point is 01:45:03 Suu save that love to do chase and lust It's the art It's the end It's the Earth
Starting point is 01:45:11 It's the earth It's the earth It's the earth It's the earth It's the earth It's the end You know what I'm going to be. Thank you.
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