The Morning Stream - TMS 2080: Jess, Tess, & Bess

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

Lovingly Caressing a Turd with a Tongue. Guardia La Forge. Like A Fatter Roger Stone? Penetrated by Dog Tongue. what show were the Jetsons on? The Farnsworth Connection. You can never have too many Pi...ps! Don't Talk About My Muppet Babies! So that's what Purell tastes like! Utah Murder Connection! Butter Bum In Paris. New Girl, who dis? It's The Finaaaaaaal Season. Cameras...EXPOSED with Tom! Torrenting Ferb with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Growing up, cereal was one of the best parts of being a kid, but I had to give it up because I realized it was full of sugar and junk that you really shouldn't eat. Go to magic spoon.com slash TMS and grab a variety pack and try it today. And be sure to use our code, TMS at checkout, to save $5 off your order. Coming up on TMS, lovingly caressing a turd with a tongue. Gardia LaFarge. I promise that top one's not as gross as it sounds. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Like a fatter Roger Stone. Penetrated by dog tongue. What show were the Jetson's on? The Farnsworth Connection. You can never have too many pips. Don't talk about my Muppet Babies. So that's what PURL tastes like. Utah Murder Connection.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Butterbomb in Paris. New girl, who this? It's the final season. Cameras exposed with Tom. Torrenting Ferb with Nicole and more on this episode of the Morning Stream. In case you didn't happen to notice it, you big Texas longhorn bull, I'm one hell of a gorgeous chick. I spit on your grave.
Starting point is 00:01:08 This is the morning stream. Dave's not here, man. Hey, everybody, welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream for Wednesday, March 10th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. That guy right there is Brian Ibit. Good morning, Brian. Good morning, Scott.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I am here. Welcome back to our daily podcast show that we do in the morning. Welcome. That's right. Welcome to a nice dusting of snow outside and looking outside on the Coverville weather cam. Action cam. It is completely gone. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, just wet. It's just wet outside, which is nice. I'm ready for rain. I'm ready for tons and tons of rain to work. wash all of the crap off the roads and out of the gutters and... Yeah, I'm all about the rain. Bring the rain on. I would love some rain.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'd like some warm spring rain. That's a... Yes. It's good stuff. Right now, it's really cold. I don't know what happened. It was 65 on Sunday. We had that trip to the zoo.
Starting point is 00:02:15 It was great. We were hot. I had to take my jacket off. And then today is like 28. It's cold again. No, it's coming my way too. We're getting what you have and it's, you'll get it before we do. I think somebody, is this what the pineapple expresses?
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, I don't know. Is this the path of a snowstorm from Hawaii up through California to... Oh, is that what they call that? The Pan Ample Express? I didn't know that. Yeah. Is that the movie based on that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like, is the movie riffing on that? Or is that... I've never seen the movie, so I can't speak to the film. But is that what they're doing? They're just riffing on that? I don't know. I didn't see the movie. But I'm sure it sounds like this.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Sorry. our best Seth Rogen promise. It's the best we can do. Anyway, hey, we're back. We got a show to do. It's good to have you all here. And we're going to get right to it. Now, as you know, Wednesdays are full of great content.
Starting point is 00:03:14 We got Tom, later, Nicole, and all that. So much. But this is, okay, we're going to talk about a dog, my dog. Okay. Our dog, I should say. This is actually technically not my dog, but Carter's dog, but she may as well be our dog because she lives here and she's enormous
Starting point is 00:03:32 and Ripley has become you know, everyone's favorite horse. She's a horse is what she is. Okay, gotcha. They're a wineriner. Gigantic. And here's what happened and I don't know quite what to do with this information.
Starting point is 00:03:46 So I present it to you and to the listening audience for their advice. Yesterday. Kim is watching. Oh, I also have a beef with you, Brian. I have a little beef. Here's a beef. Oh, good. All right, good. Beef. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Rip it out my beef. what I'm going to say about you. So for whatever reason, for whatever reason, everybody's been sort of mutually, kind of casually, but mutually watching New Girl over again. And it's been a while. And we've gotten into those later seasons, and
Starting point is 00:04:16 I don't think they're that bad. I think they're fine. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, really? No, no. That's my beef. I don't know what's wrong with them. I know there are a bunch of new characters and stuff like, you know, Schmidt's married and has been for a bit. there's other stuff like that going on but there's a whole like half a season where Zoe Dishanel wasn't even on the show I don't know if I've not gotten to that bit
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh okay maybe you haven't They replace her with Megan Fox I think for like half a season or a season Well Megan Fox is on there but she's On there at the same time as Didn't Zoe didn't the new girl move out For a little bit
Starting point is 00:04:55 I don't know if she moved out maybe she moved in with the that guy that she liked and then turns out it was her cousin and that's why they were so much alike or whatever maybe that's what you're referring to and they're not in the same apartment but they're in the show like a lot yeah she was she
Starting point is 00:05:10 so they had her uh zoe's character Jess Tess Bess whatever it is Jess yes yes I had her go on to jury duty while Zoe de Chanel had her baby oh oh that's what was going on okay
Starting point is 00:05:26 Well, maybe I just haven't gotten there yet, but... Maybe not, maybe not. Have you gone to the Prince episode yet? No. Okay. Maybe? Like I said, it's... Yeah, I think you'd know.
Starting point is 00:05:35 You'd know if you got to the... I think you'd know if you got to the Prince episode. How well are you watching this? I mean, we're watching, like I say, kind of a casual, like, hey, we're eating dinner. It's on. We got Thai food last night, so we're like, let's watch, let's watch that and eat Thai food. And we're laughing out loud, and I'm looking at the thing going, this is like the second of the last season. Brian's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:53 This is funny. It's like good. Maybe it's just the last season. That may be true. That may be true. And we're not there yet. And it sullied it for, you know, like, thinking back on it, I might have said, oh, it just went downhill so quickly and turned it into garbage. But maybe it was, maybe it was just the last season and just infected my experience of the next to last season.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's a little like, what was like that? Oh, Dexter. Community was a lot like that where I thought it got really bad after Donald Glover left. Yeah. But it was actually still pretty good after Donald. Glover left. But it was that last season that really kind of sullied and made me think, oh, yeah, it was bad for the second half. There's a lot of bad last seasons out there. I can tell you that. That's what TV does. They struggle there with their final.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Think of stopping a season early TV. Unless it's good TV. You know, sometimes you got, like, I have no doubt, better call Saul be amazing in its final season. I'm not worried. Yes. No, no doubt. Absolutely. Breaking Bad was, I like, right up until the end. I like, I like, I like that. I like that final episode. You didn't like that final episode? No, I'm saying right up until the end. Oh, you liked it. I thought you're saying. I loved the ending. I thought you were saying, oh, it was okay right up to the end. Right up until the end. I'm sorry, yes, right up through
Starting point is 00:07:08 the end. I probably would be the better way for me to. Yeah, I loved it. Game of Thrones, good. No, I think that's an example of a bad last season. I don't think it was great. It had some moments. That's a very good example of a bad last season. It was basically like, oh, I've almost finished my thousand word essay, and I need to really wrap it up quickly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So then they went home and then they all went there and everybody died and then they all lived happily ever after. Yeah. It is bad. It was not great. They wrote themselves in a hole is correct. It really did. Mad old man in the chat. Anyway, so back to the dog.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We're watching the show. Yeah. We took our little side beef and now we're back. Are we good? Well, when I get to final season, then maybe we'll have this out again. Then we'll decide. Yeah, then we'll decide. Yeah, then we'll see if I'm good.
Starting point is 00:07:56 none of it matters it's all good but anyway so we're sitting there and we're in some scene where i don't know nick and zoe or nick and jess are having a moment or whatever and i look over at the dog and i was just told that the dog had come in from being outside and carter was mad at her because she had eaten one of rainer's poops okay yeah found it and went oh a little treat i'm i have that and so she ate it And I just come in. I've been scolded and all this and, you know, trying to teach her not to do that. Now she's, like, trying to be all sweet and nice and, like, curled up on the couch with her and stuff. And she's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:36 While I'm watching the show and eating my Thai food, without any warning, without any kind of premonition, without any way of knowing it, she lurches forward and licks me so hard in the face that her tongue partially penetrated my mouth. Okay. Oh, geez. Because it's a big, heavy, you know, strong muscle tongue dog. Yeah. And she went, and just kind of barely in there. And I lost it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And this is the tongue that was lavishly caressing another dog's turd mere moments ago. Yes. Like not, let's call it 10 minutes maybe had passed. Now, I realize that a dog's mouth is a great, you know, serviceable. It's the cleanest thing in the world, Scott, the dog's mouth. So since then, since about, I don't know, 6.30 last night, all I can think of is just wait for that shoe to drop, just waiting for me to suddenly feel horrible and have, like, freaking, what's it called? Not gingerbread. Diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Or, oh, Giardia. Giardia. I'm going to get the Jardia. I can just feel it. Yeah. I just know it. Gardia Laforge. Yeah, Gardia Laforge.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Everything in the world is going to look like it's all blue and yellow with my thing on. But yeah, it was a very gross moment, and I kind of sat there stunned. Like, did that just happen? And I'm like, yeah, I did. She ate a poo 10 minutes ago. And then that tongue that helped diminish the poo has entered my mouth in some small way. And I can't stop thinking about it since. Like, I dreamt about it.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I'm thinking about it now. Oh, I know. I don't know if like, did you? Oh, I immediately got up. And the crap out of your, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got up there. Hot water first.
Starting point is 00:10:23 did that whole thing. Did the scope, did the brush and the teeth twice? Like, I really went to town. I think I'd see what Purell tasted like. It was something like that. I think I'd finally do what was suggested by the last administration. Finally, it makes sense, right, what they were saying? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, finally we can do that. So anyway, I did all I could. Oh, I did hydrogen peroxide. That was on the table. But the stuff we have is expired and I was nervous about it. So I didn't do it. I don't, I didn't know this. Last thing you wanted to get sick, washing your mouth out with expired hydrogen for oxide.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Right. Right. So at the end of the day, I think everything's fine. And it's just a moment of like, you know, just a little bit of germy germ. And you get past it and your immune systems do what they do. And I think it's all fine. but I never want to get kissed by a dog again. I just don't want that to ever happen again.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah, I don't blame you. That's a... Not scope. Listerine is what we had. Listerine, not scopes. Yeah, Listerine would be the thing, right? Listerine is the... Listerine is like the industrial strength scope.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Of all the mouthwashes, it feels like Listerine might take the paint off your car if you needed it to. Right. So you don't, that's the... That's why you never want to swallow that or, you know, know, use too much of it or too often because you kind of can ruin your, your mouth. Like you need some of your, your flora in your mouth, you need some of that. You need the bacterial, the good bacteria is.
Starting point is 00:12:00 The bacteria is that still breaks things down. Right. Yeah. All the, all the good BS that's in our mouths. We're gross. Humans are gross. Can I just say? Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:10 All right. I've got to draw our attention to some advice from Nurse Liz in our chat room, whose advice I trust more than anything and have for a long time and ever since we seen her in the chat room, specifically because of the first five letters of her avatar. Because she's a nurse. Pineapple in the dog food, they will not eat each other's poop. So, like, if you put pineapple in the dog's food, they won't have that craving or desire to eat poop.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Really? So just, like, little cut-up cubes of the stuff? How much? You don't want to put too much in there, I assume, like, just enough to. I guess you just get the canned stuff is fine, the little pineapple chunks. But why would they eat their food? in the first place, if they don't like the pineapple, why would they eat the pineapple to then poop the pineapple? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:59 What? If they don't like pineapple, how are they eating pineapple? Well, it could just be that they get whatever they're needing, whatever it is that they're trying to get from eating the poop, they're getting from the pineapple, you know, like the... So there's something about the broken down pineapple. The iron or something. you know how like but is it
Starting point is 00:13:21 is it because it turns them off of the smell that would like like dog turd doesn't smell bad enough but once you throw that pineapple in there
Starting point is 00:13:31 yeah that's interesting so yeah I'm curious about that because we have a problem with Daisy eating an arras poop and
Starting point is 00:13:41 as a matter of fact she threw one up on the living room floor and it was the most horrendous stench it's like two weeks ago and we're like you know we're seeing Daisy get up off her little dog bed
Starting point is 00:13:55 and get up and start doing her little oh no and then all of a sudden out a little a little cat turd comes out and it was it was almost like an instantaneous bomb had been dropped in our living room there you have it
Starting point is 00:14:08 we were on top of it though Tina like jumped up grab the paper towels I got the dog outside in case there was a hole in case that was just the opening salvo yeah that could have been just pre-shut is what that would have been. Exactly. For the patrons only.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Anyway, hope you all enjoy your breakfast. Everybody, welcome to the morning street. Yeah, not the most appetizing discussion. However, I just, this pineapple thing, I'm going to give it a shot. We have some canned pineapple. I'll give that a try. I just don't know. I guess I'm confused about what it is about it that they're happy to eat it in its pineapple
Starting point is 00:14:39 form, but don't want it later. That would be interesting to know. Because I don't know if either of my dogs will ever eat fruit. I never give them any kind of fruit. It's sweet. They'll smell it. If you put it in their bowl. bowl, that's 90% of the
Starting point is 00:14:51 work right there. They see it in their bowl, they assume it's food. They don't really care. Like a cat, even if there's one piece of their regular food that just doesn't smell quite right, they'll leave that piece and just keep like pushing it to the side while they eat the food around it. Whereas dogs, it's like, it's in the bowl,
Starting point is 00:15:07 it's in my tummy. There you go. So Rainer, despite all her weirdness, she's never done this. No desire to eat another dog's freaking dump. And I don't know why she's different. and why this big, dumb whimeriner's like, a turd sweet, I just can't wait to eat it
Starting point is 00:15:26 because she's so freaking stupid. Gosh, dang. There's something, it's not just a matter of like, oh, that looks like food, I'm going to eat it. It's something, I've heard that it's something where they have a low iron content, and they're like, oh, that has iron in it. I'm going to eat it or something like that. There's something.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Dogs are smarter with their noses than we are. Yeah, they really. Yeah. They're smart with their noses. Yeah, that's where it's. where it stops. But that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:51 like we don't have that level of sense, right? Like if you smell, I don't know, a dried up cookie, you're not going to go, oh,
Starting point is 00:15:57 I sense that there's a little more magnesium than usual. It would actually be well. Right, I need a little bit. Exactly. Right. I need some of that, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:04 because I don't think they know they're smelling a poop. They think they're, they're just, they're like eyeballs. They're their eyes. That's how I see it. Dogs in their noses.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They're like us in our eyes. Our eyes, we are such visual creatures. We see everything. We take it all in. We make decisions based on it. And outside of blindness, it's your, like, number one sense. For dogs, they have crap eyes.
Starting point is 00:16:23 They see everything in monochrome looking garbage. And they count on their noses for, like, the way we do our eyes. So I think that's it. Like, we're all grossed out. But for them, they're like, no, this is just us checking stuff out. This is us. Yeah, yeah, this is where we get something out of this. So back off.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, back the hell off. All right. One quick note from Gabe, who wrote in about that chip in the arm thing from that dude to misspelled everything in the email. I assume it was a dude. I don't know. That could have been a lady, but it seems like only weird guys talk like that.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Anyway, whatever. I have my own biases. Dear Scott and Brian, that email about tracking chips and the vaccine's really ticked me off. It's a sensitive subject for me because my dad is deep into all the conspiracy stuff. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Sorry, dude. Yeah, no kidding. This does suck. He says, he gets all hot in the head about something and calls me and tries to explain to me. shouldn't trust the world around me and mentions shadow governments and deep states, etc.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'd like to remind him if I wanted to do not trust the world, he shouldn't have raised me in such a supportive and stable environment for the last 30 years. What I don't understand about the whole tracking chip thing is why the F with the government fund huge pharma companies to make tracking chips disguised as vaccines when they can already track us using our internet at use and our credit cards and our smartphones. Absolutely. Location services turned on. Yeah, this is, he actually makes a really good point.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Or not, why not fund big tech companies to make microchips that we actually want implanted in our arms? It just sounds like a better narrative because the, uh, the needles are involved. Anyway, I told my dad to send me videos and blogs to these things and I would, uh, and I would watch whatever he sent me. He forwarded me a video of somebody who was banned from YouTube explaining the fire Pfizer vaccine wasn't even designed to prevent COVID-19. This dude is the audacity to actually link the Pfizer studies. And it was immediately clear he was simply citing the first phase of trials. So I found the trials and read the whole thing and then texted in pictures of it all debunking the videos and major points. He was very impressed.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And I may have even changed his mind on the vaccines. Maybe. He says, but he's still sending me stuff anyway. No, no. Oh, he isn't sending me stuff anymore. He's not saying me stuff anymore. I think, I don't think he wants to stop believing. He's a big believer in the journey, the journey sentiment.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's right. Don't stop believing. It goes on to say it's addictive Sorry, it's addictive to think that you know the secret reason why the world feels screwed up Most people who tell you to do your research Assume you won't do any actual research Anyway, I love him and I love your show and I can't wait to get my vaccine shot sincerely And forever and always, I knew you were a trouble when I walked in
Starting point is 00:19:00 We were never ever going to get back together like ever, Gabe Wow, Taylor Swift referenced at the end of the email for some weird reason Yeah, I think we got a little journey and a little Taylor Swift. Yeah, a little Tay, little Taye. And I'm happy to have both. Oh, you know what I hate when people call her that? Because we called Taylor Taye when she was growing up. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We only call Taylor. No, you can do it any time. I just every time I hear it, I go, oh, that's right. There's a popular person now that's taking my cute little pet name that I used to call my daughter. And it's nothing I can do about it. What can I do? I can't do anything. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I'm going to really quickly amend something that we said earlier just to hopefully save, like if there's people rushing out to the store to buy canned pineapple. The AKC says no canned pineapple for your dogs. Raw pineapple is good as an excellent snack for dogs. Canned pineapple contains the syrup in canned fruits contains too much sugar for most dogs. Digestive tracks to handle. So I don't think of that. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's good to note. You know, Dole makes those really good clear jars of pineapple that don't have any added syrup or anything. it is really just raw pineapple in its own in its own juices. Get that stuff. That's good stuff. Yeah, or cut up your own. Whatever way you can do it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Or cut up your own. Yeah, it's fun to cut up a pineapple. Yeah. It doesn't hurt at all, ever. Yeah, speaking of cutting up your own. Hey, look who it is, everybody. It's everyone's favorite dude who comes on the show on Mondays and Wednesdays. His name is Brian Dunaway, and he's here again today.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Hi, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. I'm currently sitting in my own juices. Oh, that's fantastic. Ooh, gross. That's gross. No sugar added? No sugar added.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Well, I don't know. Maybe. I may be slightly diabetic. We'll find out. Yep. Everyone, everyone, I hate to say this, but everyone who was raised on the food we were all raised on in the 80s, we're all slightly. You're being in school pizza? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 We didn't know what we were doing on our parents were stupid. Salisbury steak on pull apart bread? Oh, my God, Salisbury steak and the microwave tray of goop. Yep. Those are the days. Those are the days. Those were the days. Family size.
Starting point is 00:21:13 We're going to play a tadpooley feud today. And I can't wait because that's one of my favorite variations of Babel Royale. But before we can do that, we have to have this person. This person has to come on. And we're going to find out who this person is. Hi, who's this? This is Mrs. Taffey guy. Hello, Mrs. Taffy guy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Hello, Lois. We should just call you Taffy lady. How about that? This is Taffy. Right. Mr. Taffey and Mrs. Taffy, I think, is the... Yeah, you're in charge over there anyway, right? Tell him to back up. Actually, I think she really likes...
Starting point is 00:21:45 Tell us what you want you to call him. Yeah, you can be called whatever you want. Why don't you just tell us what you want us to call you? Let us decide. All right, we're going to play a game, as you know. You know how this works, but we're going to explain it anyway. And, Brian, why don't you do those honors? I will do that exact thing. By the way, gentlemen, Link is in our Discord chat there.
Starting point is 00:22:05 In the meantime, it's time to play the Tadpoolie feud. I've interviewed the Tadpool on some nerdy topics. Scott and Brian are going to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Mrs. Taffy guy, your job is more important than ever because you're actually going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package that includes a $10 Phoenix Pearl Tea gift certificate. So you can get some great tea. from Gwen, who you heard on the show yesterday,
Starting point is 00:22:38 as well as a Dr. Zias, Dr. Zias, Dr. Zias, Dr. Zias, action figure. Oh, I wonder where that was going. Okay. Yes. We saw one of those on Sunday. Apes, Dr. Zias action figure still mint on card. We saw one of those at the zoo, Arringotene. Dr. Zias?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, one of the Zayas monkeys, uh, apes. And I saw one and it had the big face, you know, with all the space on the face and the big rubbery looking face. And I said, you guys, it's Dr. Zias. And everybody went, Dad, we don't know who that is. I was sad. I was sad that they didn't know who Dr. Zayas was.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Aw, poor, cute. What kind of parenting did I do is what I'm asking? Yeah. It's a very good question. That was the problem. That's your problem. All right. So, are you guys logged in?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Looks like you are. And our category today, hands-on buzzers. What is your favorite animated family of all time? Oh, shoot. Scott buzzed in first. Uh, the Simpsons. The Simpsons. Number one answer on the board.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. Duh. And by the way, scoring has changed on this. Um, the higher, the lower in the top 10 it is, the more points you get because fewer people said it. So the number 10 answers worth 10 points. It's basically the number of that it is is the number of points you get. And that way it's not like, okay. Okay, well, I just got the number one answer.
Starting point is 00:24:07 175 people said that. Mathematically won, and there's no way anyone can catch up. Right, right, right, right, right. Somebody suggested this. Actually, I think you forward me the email of somebody suggesting this, and Al-Kibab got it working in there, and it's great. Yep, good change. All right, there's no way that Brian can come up with a better answer than that.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So, Scott, you get to have a little partner in crime, which is Mrs. Taffy guy. she will be joining you to help you with answers. TVZGahn reminds us that at some point, because I keep changing the rules, Veronica is going to bust through the wall like the Kool-Aid man. Oh, yeah, no, she would be so pissed right now. She'd be so mad, yeah. By the way, quick update.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I talked to her last night. She sent me a little photo of the baby, and my gosh, that kid is cute. Holy crap. Holy crap. Not that, you know, nobody thought this kid would be ugly, but it doesn't have a chance of being anything but adorable. Yeah, he's a really cute little dude.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Look at his parents. All right. So I got a question about defining an animated family real quick here. Okay, good. Yes, please do. We're talking like, what, a traditional mom, dad, kids thing? We're talking. Doesn't have to be.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I was bad to say, geez, man. But a family does mean more than one person. So, for example, somebody, actually a couple people in the survey put Batman from the Batman animated series. No. And kind of the whole thing about that, man, is that he doesn't have a family anymore. Robbins is extended family. Well, see, that actually, no, see, this is a good, I'm glad you brought this up, because could, could the argument be made that because because he's got, he's got all these associates, it's her and Commissioner Gordon and, and a freaking bad girl and all this. Like, family by relation as opposed to by, by assembly.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Okay, so there's some genetic connectivity tissue stuff. So the super friends would be no. No, unless a Nuck Chucks. The Super Friends would be no. Okay. Not a Nuck Chukh. Also, you know, some of the Tadpool, I've just got to chuckle at you because even though the question says animated families, I got the Bundy's. I got the Bluths.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Oh, wow. Wow. Well done, guys. Paying attention to that question. Good job. Yes. All right. Anyway, back to the game.
Starting point is 00:26:28 All right. So we're first then. Me and Mrs. Tavri. Yeah. You and Lowe. we're working together. All right, Lois, I have a, speaking of Lois, I'm guessing family guys probably on there. Would you?
Starting point is 00:26:38 That's what I was going to say. Okay. We like family guy, Brian. All right. Show me the Griffins. I don't always like them. Oh, nice. Number four.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Number three answer on the board. Yeah. Kind of disappoint you didn't force them to give their, the name. Oh, of the griffons? Oh, yeah, that's true. From now on I will. You will have to give you the name. I can say the griffins.
Starting point is 00:26:57 No problem. All right. Let's do. What you didn't. It's still us, right? We don't go back and forth. It's still you guys, until you make one mistake. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And no mulligans in this arrangement. There are no mulligans. I mean, technically, you have three mulligans because you have three strikes. What more do you want? Yeah, this is all I want. I would say, so Lois, how do you feel about King of the Hill, Hank Hill? The Hill family? By the way, you're not showing the scoreboard on the...
Starting point is 00:27:26 Oh, I thought I was. Sorry, chat. I thought I was. Now I am. Okay, cool. Anyway, sorry, what do you think about the hills? Let's do it. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:34 King of the Hill, the Hills, Hank, Bobby, Peggy. Show me the Hills. Number eight answer on the board. Too low. Oh, wow. Okay. Too low. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That should be higher. All right. Animated families. TV only, right? No movies? TV only. Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I think. Maybe it's taking a big old drink of something. I had a nice big swig of coffee to help me get through. This nightmare. I have a simple question, just a simple question. You complicate it. Every week. The doctor told me yesterday that caffeine stays in your body for seven hours.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Is that true? Do you guys think that's true? I don't know. I would say. I don't know. Because isn't dumb supposed to stay in your stomach for seven years or something? Isn't that the deal like? That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You know that one's the lie. If it's the number seven, it's probably a... I think, yes, I think according to your metabolism, caffeine could reside in your system for up to seven hours, but typically the effect is well gone. Well, that's probably... There may be some explanation as to why I slept like crap, like that, because I had late caffeine, so that might be why.
Starting point is 00:28:50 All right. Families animated. Oh, man. Flintstones? Oh, Flintstones is good. Flintstones. Yeah. Let's do Flintstones.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Going Flintstones, all right. Still pouring my coffee. Hold on. There we go. Well, let's not interrupt your coffee. Come on. It's, yeah, to pour my coffee. Show me the Flintstones from the show, the Flintstones.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Number four answer on the board. Very good. What would the, oh, my gosh. I can't. No idea. I was about to ask the dumbest thing. I would love for you to ask the question you were about to ask. I'll ask it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I'll ask it and I'll admit that it was going to come out of my mouth. I'm going to say, what was the show with the Jetsons on it? I almost said that. How do you feel about Jetsons, Lois? That's what I was going to see next. Oh, my gosh. I'm just reading your mind here. All right, we're going Jetsons then.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Wasn't there a Jetsons show called The Something? What's her family name again? Show me the Jetsons from the show The Jetsons. Okay. Now I'm on some fumes here. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't put in parentheses after the Flintstones, the Flintstones. Just for consistency's sake.
Starting point is 00:30:10 What was that little guy's name that was, it was green on the Flintstone? The Great Gazoo. The Great Kazoo. He sucked. He sucked. No, no, no. He's the scrappy doo of that show. He's horrible.
Starting point is 00:30:23 It kind of was, yeah. And that was later stuff, too. That was not like original. from He's actually He's a relative to the Mitzel pick from Super Friends.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah, yeah. Speaking of which, by the way, the Super Friends did have family, the twins, the Wonder Twins were related. Okay, all right, that's true. Oh, there's a good.
Starting point is 00:30:40 But they weren't really. Yeah, nobody picked that. All right. Form of. I mean, somebody, then if somebody would have said that in a word. Chew and Uncle. Oh, Bob's Burgers,
Starting point is 00:30:50 holy shit. Okay, the Belchers. She's right. Nobody went and figured that out. Lois is right. The Belcher should be on there. Show me the belchers. should not be an apostrophe in there
Starting point is 00:31:01 but number two answer on the board wow amazing I don't know why I didn't think of that first we watched out all the damn time okay now we're let's see now we're getting in it's a scary place town
Starting point is 00:31:14 Lois any others jumping out of your mind any other What's the American family one with the alien dude Oh Dad Not major dad
Starting point is 00:31:26 Dad American dad right what's their last names yeah what's the family names are we going to be a stickler on this one I think we should be because it's way more fun for me is it an S
Starting point is 00:31:47 Smith Smith That's good job Oh is it all right we'll say the Smiths Say the Smiths Okay show me the Smiths from American Dad Really? that's on there. I hate that show. Yeah, of course it is.
Starting point is 00:32:02 All right, only three answers left on the board. You guys have been running the board really well to the point where Brian can really only... Answer one thing. Well, you can answer three things, depending on how you guys do. But he can't score more points than you so he can really just redeem himself if he ever hits the ball. Yeah, exactly. All right. You've got to steal the win.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But you guys have to miss an answer for the ball to get past. So get on it. Lois, do you know the last names on Rick and Morty? I can't think of them. Because they're related. He's his grandpa, but I can't remember. It's just Grandpa Rick. In their...
Starting point is 00:32:39 Grandpa Rick. His last name is Pickles. Pickles. Don't give them any ideas. Why can't I think of their last name? It's something funny. Or just discordant and weird and opposite. Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Oh. Isn't it? Oh, oh, oh, it's just, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Sanchez, uh, Rick Sanchez. So it's, so I assume they're all, all their names are Sanchez or no. Well, his daughter's name would have changed when she got married, right. Is that your, is that your answer, though? Yeah. It'll be close enough.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Come on, if it's on there. Oh, there you go. They're also the Smiths, but Rick is the Sanchez and, uh, I did not know that. Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it. I did not know that. Yes, two answers left on the board. Holy, holy guacamole.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Um, now I don't know where to go. I don't know what to do. Uh, what, uh, there's that new one that's on, uh, that's on Fox that some people like. I heard it was trying to be too king of the hill. The hearts. We could say the hearts. Lois, do you want to do that one? I thought you was the other one.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Bless the hearts or whatever. Yeah, bless the hearts or whatever. I haven't watched it. I don't know. It's probably okay. There's one even newer than that, Scott. Oh, there's a newer one than that? Yeah, one from the Bob's Berger's creators.
Starting point is 00:34:15 They're great north. Oh, yeah, but I don't know their family name. I'll never know that. I watched that. It was okay. I didn't like it that much. It was all right. um
Starting point is 00:34:24 well shit is there some other naughty ones i'm not oh oh oh uh uh big mouth uh the brother and the sister on there uh uh oh oh oh about the big mouth is what you're having aneurism over there I am having aneurism
Starting point is 00:34:48 all right uh let's go with let's stick with the hearts because I don't know I don't know the name of the people Pullen, Big Mouth. All right. Show me the hearts. Shit. All right. Brian, you can redeem yourself with two answers on the board.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It won't win you the game. But... I'm watching... I'm watching... I'm hoping the Tadpool will, at least some of them, watch this. I've been watching South Park season by season
Starting point is 00:35:18 in reverse. I'm up to season. Yeah, I'm up to season. Yeah, I'm up to season. season 11 regressing that's a weird way to watch that that's very odd but i like it i like what you're i know i didn't mean to i just kept going oh i didn't see that season let me go back and watch that one i'm like oh i didn't see that season before then i just keep rolling back and i'm like eleven now we're going to go with uh randy marshes family the marshes the marshes show me the marshes oh i bet you'd have gotten cartman's but i could be wrong i don't know
Starting point is 00:35:52 All right, so it's back to us then, yeah? Yep. Okay. There's no... I was trying to think of BoJack Horseman was the last name. Horseman, and there's a bunch of other horsemen, but I've never seen BoJack Horseman. I know. It's on my list.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah. The Rug Rat family? The Pickles? Those are the pickles, yeah. We could do the... Brian part of that earlier. Let's try it. I almost used... I almost use pickles.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Let's hope that we got a lot of 90s kids in here. Let's say pickles. Show me the Pickles family from Rugrats. Yeah, we've been a little wrong either way, too. All right, back over to Brian. Oh, back over to me. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I mean, there's more, but, I mean, if people won't even do the marshes, I mean. Are the, is SpongeBob related to anybody? I guess he's the SquarePants family, but no one's going to say that. is there is there anybody else is there any family members on uh i mean his parents he has his parents once in a while but they don't they're not regular not not regular cast yeah i i feel like the tadpool at least one of those smart asses said this the archers oh that's good show me the archers it was actually number 11 on the oh no i take it back number 12 on the list. Four people said the archers.
Starting point is 00:37:23 There's always some smarty you'll do it. I'd have to look it up and see. So there were other members of the Archer family on that? Well, there was Archer and there was his mom. Right. So they were Oh, of course his mom. Duh. Yeah. But that may have been it. I think that may have been the only family.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Which is why that was all that's all it matters is two people related. Yeah. Okay. So back to us. Back to you guys with your last chance. Why is this so hard this last Oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Cleveland, Cleveland family, the Cleveland's. Was Cleveland's last name? His name was, oh, my name is Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, that's it. My name is Cleveland, man. I got the perp and call me by my last name. So it's Brown. Oh, there you go. Show me the Browns. Shit. Oh, last chance for Brian Dunaway.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So you can get, uh, either of these last two answers. I mean, I know more in the South Park region, but if they don't, if I might mention the marshes, I think that would be the go-to. I can tell you that the three people on the survey mention the marshes. Okay. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha, three times. Marsha, Marsha, Marcia, Marcia. Get it, three people mention the marshes. It has to be TV, right?
Starting point is 00:38:45 We did, we did say it. Animated television families. It has to be at least two members. of the family as regular characters on the show. And we discovered that people don't really watch all right.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I'm going to go with the proud family because I interviewed one of the creators on that for comics coast to coast once. So that's what I'm going to go with the proud family. What's that from? Show me the proud family from the show the proud family. Oh. I didn't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Bummer. Round over Scott. Wow, you guys pretty much swept that one. Show me number six. It's working. What, no? Okay, hold on. Frise.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Shit. Oh, far as we have, yeah, I thought about that. Because, yeah, they're related. You're right bastards. Absolutely related. I didn't think about it put that, but I guess I was going to say Futurama earlier, but it's why I was asking you that needle in question about if they're just associates are the family and I wasn't thinking of the Farnsworth connection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:50 the weird time-traveling Farnsworth connection. Right. Exactly. And show me number nine. Oh, make duck. That makes a duck tails. Nice ass kids.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That one over top of the marshes on South Park. I got to tell you some of these runners up because they're great. The Thornberries actually was your number 11. A lot of people like the Thornberries, the Adams family, because they weren't animated. They've been animated. On TV? Oh, were they ever animated on TV? No, they weren't.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I don't think they were. As I mentioned, the Batman family. The Flynn Fletcher's from Phineas and Ferb. The Possibles from Kim Possible. The Venture Brothers. The Bennett family from Bionic Six. The Bundys from married with children. Not sure.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The Freemans from Boondocks, Gummy Bears, Pickles, the Pines from Gravity Falls. Oh, the Pines. That would have been a really good one. Wouldn't have been, wouldn't have been mattered. But it would have been a good one. Oh, and the Warners from Animaniacs. Oh, that would have been a good one.
Starting point is 00:40:50 good one, too. Oh, the Warners. Because the sister and the brothers and the some answers that only got like one person saying them, the Morgendorfer's, robot chicken, roses from Schitt's Creek. You guys did not read instruction. The clones from Star Wars, which I think is a
Starting point is 00:41:10 very good answer because they're all related. Yeah. No, that's not bad because the Clone Wars is a cartoon. That works. It's a cool. It does totally work. Yeah. Smart. The the horsemans did get one answer by the way in answer to your question about the Bojack Horseman and the Royal Family
Starting point is 00:41:26 Tia Beanie and Company in Disenchancement I was gonna say that one and I just thought it was too new Why you didn't because only one person Would have said that in our audience That is an amazing you guys We haven't seen Disenchanted lately at all or whatever It's such a good watch home That's that Simpson's spin-off on Netflix right
Starting point is 00:41:45 Well it's not a Simpson spin-off but it's Matt Graney It's got a bunch of the voices and stuff stuff, but it's, it's, it's its own thing, and I love it. I love that show. It's really good. Okay. Excellent work, everybody, especially Lois, who has won, hold on, the crown of this. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. You're the winner, winter, chicken dinner, which means you've won these prizes. That means you just have to email Briancoverville at gmail.com. He'll hook you up with your tea and your other stuff, and you will walk away one happy camper. All the taffy in the world wouldn't matter without this victory, right? You're going to put the tea in taffy, but don't put taffy in your tea.
Starting point is 00:42:24 That's right. Tell your husband, he's cool, too. We like him okay. All right. Hey, we did it. Good job, everybody. And well done. Brian Donnerway, nice work, nice job. Oh, yeah, it was super difficult saying, listen, to y'all steal my answers. Yeah, well, you know, you were just so hooked on the marshes, he couldn't get passes. If you would have beat Scott to the buzzer, that could have been you. Yeah, could have been you, but I know. I just barely didn't. I like the change, though, in the tweak. The scoring, yeah, it really does.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Up until Scott got the number 10 answer, you actually could have still won and won the game. Yeah, you had it still. You still could have done it. I think that's the way. I like that idea because it is a level of difficulty is higher and usually answering the ones that haven't been picked. So it makes sense. Yep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Here's what I want you to do. You got it wrong, giving the most points to the easiest answers. They're stupid. I agree. Stupid show. Lame, lame multi-decade running show. Lame. That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Hey, don't forget, Brian and I, that is to say, Dunaway and I, were on Boop Show yesterday, and it was a real good time. We talked about two of what I think are two of the best indie games this year. I really like both of them. And one in particular, Hero Loop, I can't stop playing. So if you want to go check out what we had to say about that, check out the Boop Show, wherever you get your podcast or at FrogPants.com slash boop. And this weekend, check out FilmSack, where we'll be watching.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Devil's Advocate. The devil's advocate, yeah. Yeah, never saw it. Apparently much nudity in that one that I didn't remember. I was looking at the IMDB page, and I always look at the parents' guy because I think it's a hilarious way to, you know, get an idea of the film, but also, like, some of the things that people get so worried about. So, two ladies' kiss in this film. Oh, no. Yes, I know.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'll have the blanket ready. Yeah, get ready to toss that. Have your blanket ready. Yeah. No, the TV people. I don't remember there being any in it because I've never seen it. So, I guess I'll just have to make it. Demon heads on people.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Oh, yeah. There's the devil's stuff. Oh, good. I'm so scared. I'm going to make some deviled eggs and get ready. Do your homework. It's on HBO Max because everything this month is, it's March Maximus, we call it. Oh, yeah, like that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Yes. And all our movies happen to be on Max this month. So, anyway, go check it out. That's film maxed out. We maxed out our HBO Max. Indeed. Brian Donnaway, have a fantastic day. No.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Bye No No No I thought that was going to be more there Yeah I did too Somehow I thought there'd be more All right We're going to take a break
Starting point is 00:44:59 When we come back We'll spend some time with Tom Nicole and the rest And the rest And the rest But before we do that We have to play a song Brian what song do we have to play
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah this is great This actually is something It just came out yesterday And I'm already in love with this this sound. She's a singer named Chase Cole. Last name is spelled C-O-H-L.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And on the 19th, she's going to be releasing her Dear Dear EP. This is the first single from that. It has got such a cool 60s girl group sound and with such a biting set of lyrics in this thing. I love
Starting point is 00:45:40 it. The song is called Take It Like a man. Here is Chase Cole. I'm going to be the one of the I'm going to I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:45:55 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm and I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:46:05 You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to Thank you. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm I'm going to I'm a bit of I'm so I'm I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. Oh! You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be. You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be. Oh, man, I remember being a kidd
Starting point is 00:49:43 Oh, man, remember being a kid, remember eating sugar, cereal like it was nothing. It's no big deal. Well, those days are gone. Holy crap. I've been trying to get that on carbs, sugar, unhealthy food in general, and realize basically I can't eat that stuff anymore. Been doing protein shakes, powder, that kind of stuff. It's all right. A sort of way to start your day, but, man, here's what I'd rather do.
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Starting point is 00:52:30 All right, we have returned. Yes, that was Van playing hype man to some song that was playing in the room. He's got this thing going where he likes to just say the last word of whatever anyone's saying. He's the kid's got a great future as a backup singer. Yeah, he'll be like, I think it should be in rap, and he should be like, what's his guy with the clock around his neck? I'm sure, boy. Yeah, Flav of Flav, that's the guy. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Looking forward to it, it's coming. Either that or a pip, he can be a pip. Oh, a pip, yeah. Gladys Knight always needs new pips. Always needs new pips because sometimes those pips run out and you always need new pips. Need a new pip. Talk to Gladysnight.com. All right. We're going to get Tom in here and talk a little tech news.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's Wednesday. That's what we do. And it's something we look forward to. So sit back and relax as we do that. With the computer as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man happens to be Tom Merritt, who joins us on Wednesdays where we talk about the hot tech. I can't say words. hot tech headlines of the day.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Tom, welcome to the show. Save me for myself. How are you? Yes. I just want to go on record as saying I do not like oranges with Pips. Pips should be with Gladys Night. That's not a bad idea. Also, I don't like... But Dominoes are great with Pips. Right. Those are okay.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Sure. Sure. I'll allow it. Yeah. Don't, if you're a general... You can't use Dominoes without them. If you're like a general in an army, do you have Pips? That's what they have, right? They're little pips they have on their sleeves or their show... Uh, the little, I'd like, oh, uh, pipe, pippets or something.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Oh, like, no, I'm thinking of Star Trek. Like, uh, the captain has a little pips. Yeah. The three, you've got another pips or are those, I thought that was something else. Are they pips? Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I think that, I think you're right. Pimps. If it's not, if it's not right, it is driven the correct answer out of my head. Because that's what it sounds right. Well done. Either way, mission accomplished. Okay. Tom, it's good to have you here.
Starting point is 00:54:22 We're talking tech because that's what we do with you on Wednesday mornings as you prepare for the daily new show and observe, uh, the tech news happening around you, unfolding around you. What's happening today that we should be aware of? Yeah. Okay. So one of the big stories you're going to see out there in the world. And I always feel like, you know, my job and our job at Daily Tech News show is not so much
Starting point is 00:54:43 to tell you the news, but kind of look at the news and go, okay, here's how we can all understand it. Because sometimes the headlines grab you and they're like, what? What's going on? Verkata is a company that supplies surveillance cameras. mostly to businesses and governments and things like gyms and hotels and just the sort of security cameras
Starting point is 00:55:06 that you can use to keep an eye on your property, your office, et cetera. Vercada also has a beta of facial recognition so that you could maybe tell who's been where within your domain. So far, so controversial if you don't like surveillance at all, but it's a company, it's not used in, you know, without letting people know, like generally, maybe in the employee manual or something
Starting point is 00:55:33 like that, that surveillance happens. But apparently, Verkata had super admin tools on its cloud service that would let certain employees access any video service. That's questionable. Probably not the best policy. There are some reasons to provide faster support or maybe facilitate, uh, video being used for emergency responders or something. Not a great idea.
Starting point is 00:56:03 One of the reasons it's not a great idea is that if your credentials accidentally get exposed publicly online, a group of attackers led by Swiss developer Tilly Kotman in this case can get into your system and look at the cameras of all 5,200 customers. And that's what Tilly Kotman and associates have done. Kotman was sharing videos with motherboard, Bloomberg, Reuters showing that they had access to this. As soon as Bloomberg contacted Verkata, Verkata shut down all its internal accounts and Kotman got knocked offline. But they did it for awareness. In fact, literally what Kotman told Bloomberg was they did it because of, quote, lots of curiosity fighting for freedom of information.
Starting point is 00:56:53 against intellectual property, a huge dose of anti-capitalism, a hint of anarchism, and it's also just too much fun not to do it. Yeah, this seems like a, you know, this is like Hacker General sort of reasoning, which I prefer, I prefer over like... I hesitate to use hacker for malicious uses,
Starting point is 00:57:11 and I can't tell. I just used the word attacker, but that doesn't seem right either, because so far, Kotman has not pivoted. Apparently you get root access to a camera, which you could use to do further network intrusion, It doesn't look like Cotman has done that. Cotman also sharing with news outlets, which is usually what folks in the security industry who do responsible disclosure will often do as well to raise awareness on things.
Starting point is 00:57:36 So it's a gray hat for sure at best. Yeah. 150, well, according to the Blumber article, 150,000 surveillance cameras inside hospitals, companies, police departments, prisons, and schools, much of what you already said. But that is a, that is a massive number. like if you think about how many cameras that is and where those cameras are and the kind of exposure that is that's just insane
Starting point is 00:58:00 so I'm glad they did it for the lulls basically is what I could equate this to they obviously have you know other reasons to be doing it but they're not holding anyone hostage this isn't a malware thing this isn't them saying you know and so far it doesn't look like they're trying to embarrass anyone or release
Starting point is 00:58:15 footage about individuals although some of the videos apparently do show like a person in a hospital being wrestled onto a table and you don't know why. There's some videos that were stored from a jail that have some questionable names, which kind of says that maybe the personnel at that jail are being a little too lighthearted about videos. But again, those are all aimed at the organizations, not so much aimed at personal data or anything
Starting point is 00:58:48 like that. Right. They've got one here. They said it was shot inside the Teslaware. house in Shanghai. Yeah, good clarification there. You're going to see Tesla's name all over this. Tesla says that a supplier had used Verkata cameras, but the Tesla does not. So that, yes, there was a Tesla parts supplier that was affected by this, but not in fact, Tesla. It's just too tempting for them, isn't it, to say, to throw Tesla in the headline, because that's what they literally did in
Starting point is 00:59:14 this Bloomberg thing. It's like, oh, Tesla's involved. And when you look at the video and you see a warehouse full of Tesla parts, it's logical to be like, oh, it must be a Tesla place. Yeah. And I guess if you've got supply chain and you heavily rely on supply chain for your company and you are Tesla, then I guess by extension, it kind of is Tesla. So maybe I'm... Well, in China particularly, you can't do business without being partnered with a domestic company. So I always reserve a little more leeway for companies when their Chinese partners end up doing something because I don't think it lets them off the hook or anything, but you can't do business in China without. having a partner so you're kind of stuck uh and in this case what tesla's trying to say is we don't use vercata cameras ourselves we can't control what our supplier might do and and that's unfortunate but we'd and because one of the aspects here is trying to show companies doing surveillance of employees and i think that's what tesla's trying to get in front of is like we we don't do that
Starting point is 01:00:10 uh cloud flare does use ricotta cameras in some of his offices its offices are shut down right now so you can't really see anything in the in those videos apparently but uh cloud flare was quick to say these are in public pathways meant for for security and we don't use facial recognition even though it's a feature yeah i was going to say even though they're capable of that um yeah i have to not laugh but marvel at some of these names so there is a the Arizona's graham county detention center has 17 cameras yeah that's the that's the place i was talking about and the one video is called just common area that's fine then there's another one called roundhouse kick oopsie uh there was a video filed in
Starting point is 01:00:51 the rear cell block called Sellers Sniffing slash Kissing Willard. Don't know what that is. I don't want to know. There's another one called Autumn Bumps His Own Head. Like, there's some real winners in here that I'm now curious about, but I don't really want to see them either. So, well done article for both enticing me and repelling me at the same time. Anyways, it's an interesting, a bit of a, I don't know, not a wake-up call.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Like, we're in such video town now, everybody with their ring doorbells and everybody He's got cameras on them and there's cameras on every computer and we're all talking to cameras right now. I have multiple cameras pointing at me right now. We live in an era of not the old scare phrase of surveillance state isn't what I mean. But we're kind of voluntarily just having cameras everywhere now. And so I think once in a while it's just a good, not wake up call. That's not the word I'm looking for that sounds alarmist. But I mean, just a reminder.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Wake up sheeple. Oh yeah, we got to, you know, we got to just be careful. We got to watch ourselves. Well, security matters. Maybe, you know, like that stuff is a good conversation to be had around this stuff, I guess. Yeah, I think on the one hand, I'm usually quick to say, you know, don't overreact. It's easy out of context to make something sound worse than it is when it's fairly mundane. You probably go to your office and know there's a surveillance camera in the lobby and don't think too much of it.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So a lot of this is that kind of stuff. but I will say that Verkata having an admin account a super admin account in-house that when breached didn't have proper two-factor authentication on it apparently from what I can tell and was able to access every customer's camera
Starting point is 01:02:32 not excusable, not good. No, that's a big bad. This reminds me quickly of a story when I was working at a small computer company here in Salt Lake City we used to sell to universities and hospitals. Very small though. And the owner put in security cameras or internal cameras and didn't tell anybody.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So there was no like employee notification or whatever. And they ended up using those cameras to catch somebody in the warehouse, stealing a bunch of laptops at night, putting them in a dumpster, coming back later, picking them up and then reselling them himself. And how they did it was with these security cameras. But then later, we had these huge company-wide meetings with just the worst awful shouting matches because people were so angry they weren't informed, even though all. but one person was doing anything wrong, they really wanted to know. So what I would say is, after that experience in my life, I would say, here's what I would say to people who own companies.
Starting point is 01:03:25 If you're going to have security cameras, inform your employees. I think it's just good policy to do that. Let them know that they're there. And then you don't have any weird questions later when something happens. Secondly, if you're working somewhere. Before you get to point number two, they're required to do that and they usually do it in their employing manual that nobody reads. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:44 So I think to add on to your point one is like, go beyond that. Like, make sure everybody knows. Yeah, be really transparent about it. Stick it in the employee manual and be like, we're covered. Yeah, the day you start, say, see that? Those are security cameras. They point at people and stuff just so you know they're there. Okay, moving on to the next thing.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And then go talk to Janice in accounting. Like, it'll all be fine. Then the other thing is, if you're an employee, no matter where you're going, if you read the small print or they don't tell you or whatever, just assume they're there. Just to always assume, especially nowadays, is there are security cameras in that building and everything will be better.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It has nothing to do with this story, but just no. Someone looking at you. When you're in a public place. And again, to me, I'm less worried that, you know, public offices and government buildings and stuff have cameras. Like you say, I kind of assume they all do. And I kind of think there's a good reason to have that. Everybody's a little bit crazy about like,
Starting point is 01:04:40 ah, the surveillance, there's too much, too many cameras and facial recognition. It's not all for bad uses. There are good uses for this stuff. That's what I try to focus on is, is it being used responsibly? Is it being used transparently, like you said? And is it only being used for the purposes that justify it? I think most of these cameras that are out there probably are.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Let's focus not on the fact that cameras exist. Let's focus on this company that let its employees have super admin access to every. No, no. And in fact, institutions should probably look closely to that. say, hey, so once we have cloud access, we are the only ones with the password, right? We're the only ones who can access that, right?
Starting point is 01:05:22 And don't buy a camera service from a company that doesn't ensure that. Yeah. I hope there were a whole bunch of Zoom meetings right after this, Revelation, and they all, and then they all worried about the Zoom call, and who could see it. All right. Tom Merritt,
Starting point is 01:05:38 as always, a pleasure to hang out and talk. We're going to do more of this later today on the daily tech news show. It's Wednesday, so that means I'll be there. So it'll be me and Tom and Sarah and Roger and it'll be great. So tune in and check it out. Anything else you'd like folks to know? No, I just want to thank everybody on a free time newsletter. I've had a few more people in there sending me notes. It's always fun to get an email. Apologies if it takes me a couple days. Sometimes the notes come in on Saturday and I'm not as busy checking things on the weekend. But I love getting all that stuff. So if you want an email from me that just kind of tells you every, Friday. What's been going on in my week? What are the thoughts in my head? Whether I've watched WandaVision yet or not, uh, free tom newsletter.com.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Fantastic, Tom, Meridae at Ace Detect on Twitter. We'll see you later today. Thank you, Tom. Bye. You and I'll both see him later today. I get to listen in while he does Tom time with all of our contestants. Oh, that's, uh, is that tonight? Like, it's probably after that. It's every Wednesday night, we, we do the coaching. And, um, I wonder why our Wednesdays, we, we, we wrap up really tightly on Wednesdays now, and we used to not as much. You know, if we all hung out and talked later, it was no big deal. But now I've noticed Tom's like, all right, got to go.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And that must be why. He's got scheduled stuff with you. Okay, let's get Nicole into the house. Let's give her a key. It's under the mat, actually. Oh, yeah, yeah. I just tell her it's under the mat. You just grab that at your convenience, and you enter the building thusly.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Where is it? Oh, Nicole, my sweet Nicole. Hey, check it out, everybody. It's Nicole Spack, joining us as she does each and every Wednesday from her home in Colorado. Hello, Nicole. How are you? It's for me. Yay.
Starting point is 01:07:31 How are you? Did your big snow fort melt? It's all gone now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But we're supposed to get 20 inches tonight or something. Oh, that'll get you snow. one to three feet this weekend.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, this weekend. Are you going to go out and let him make a big complicated for it again or what? Sure. I'm not going to do it. Am I breaking up here? You're chopping up a little bit. Yeah, like there was a long time you were frozen.
Starting point is 01:08:03 It feels like Wi-Fi or maybe it's not. Obviously, you're wired in, but yeah, it feels like it sounds like. I just made sure Mark wasn't doing a huge upload like he usually is. Well, his wood whisper are porn. Did you quit torrenting the fourth season of Phineas and Furb, please? Oh, yeah, he's really into it. You can't stop that for it happening. Nicole, it's good to have you here.
Starting point is 01:08:23 We're going to do recommendals today, and we got a list of them. Brian and I both have one this week, and as always, traditionally speaking, we start with Brian. Any set up for this clip, Brian? This is a new miniseries that I kind of wish was a recurrent, like going to be a continuing series. But as a stands, 10 episodes is all you're going to get. of this. Oh, man. Okay. What service? Just curious. I'll say afterwards, because that might give it a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Oh. Playing hardball. All right. Here we go. It's Robin's car. I needed to disappear, Charlie. No questions asked. But it just can't just be sold. I mean gone. It's got to be painful for you. Seeing it there every day, in the street, outside your home, if you were never to see it again, it would be harder for a day or so.
Starting point is 01:09:28 The absence. And then, drop the key behind the front left wheel. Give me a few hours. the judge or something what is it your honor yeah it's uh but yeah exactly brain cranston you can't really you can't really hide brain cranston's voice there that's absolutely walter white uh brain cranston and limited series on showtime called your honor that wouldn't have given it away well not to you it might have given it away for me i may have got are you are you watching a lot of showtime uh scott no but i knew about the show and i've been a
Starting point is 01:10:14 that I don't have showtime so because I want to see this but I also didn't know it was limited I thought this was like an ongoing concern here it's a it's a single season and it's so Brian Cranston plays a judge who gets involved with a hit and run situation that kills a local kid and that kid turns out to be the son of a mafia kingpin, a New Orleans. This whole thing takes place in New Orleans. And so the dad is this mafia boss that is demanding not just justice, but far worse. Norlands? What's that? Nalins. Yes. Nalins. I don't want to give anything else away on this because
Starting point is 01:11:08 it, again, it's one of these things that if you go in knowing. less you get so much more out of the show. Amazing, amazing cast on this thing. Of course, Brian Cranston. You've also got Hope Davis, who's always really good. Isaiah Whitlock, Jr. from The Wire, that's the other person that you hear in that section. Sophia Black Delia, who, if you ever saw The Mick,
Starting point is 01:11:41 she's the daughter she actually she's the oldest daughter she plays a teacher on this on this show that is having an affair with the uh the judge's son um this is great this is really really good um the ending was not what i expected but it did seal things up but i think the thing that's most um the biggest draw on this is that if you're missing Brian Cranston as Walter White, you know, a character who, who one little lie kind of spurs into another lie, kind of stirs into another lie, and pretty soon you've got a character that's trying to keep the 10 plates all spinning at once, you're going to get that in this. It's the Brian Cranston that we all grew to love as Walter White in Breaking Bad.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I was hoping for the Walter Wright who's shaving his chest on Malcolm in the middle, not that one. Yeah, you won't get that one. No, that's definitely, definitely not that. Okay, not the Dr. Wattley taking his clothes off at the dentist. It's not that version of Walter White. Yeah, this is, and it's show run by Peter Moffitt, who I'm trying to find, I know I've seen other things that he's done. He's done a lot of stuff for the BBC. Isn't he the Downton Abbey guy?
Starting point is 01:13:05 Am I thinking to somebody else? Hold on. Might be thinking of somebody else. Is that another Moffat? Uh, criminal justice. Yeah, I'm not seeing that list in his career. Maybe that's what I'm confusing. Oh, he did the night of on HBO.
Starting point is 01:13:18 That was awesome. Wait, is that right? Am I thinking of something else? No, different. Okay, never mind. Oh, yeah. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It was, it was, because that was based on criminal justice, which was by Peter Moffat. Oh, okay. I see. That came years before. Right. Yeah, he's, he's, he's, all sorts of good stuff. He's a very suspenseful story, and he does really well with that. That's great.
Starting point is 01:13:41 very cool yeah so it's called your honor listen if you don't have show time i'm sure there's like a 30 day free trial um that's absolutely worth it to just watch this it's really really good it's usually seven anymore oh seven day trial yeah 10 episodes you can get through that in seven days yeah yeah just set aside a whole bunch of time and do that uh well all right this has been one of my list i'm glad you i'm glad one of us has seen it we can yeah now fully recommend it because I've been wanting to see it, so that's good. And you don't feel like it's too Walter Whitey, right? You're not like, oh, we're just doing this again.
Starting point is 01:14:17 No, this character has different motivations. And, yeah, the character has different motivations again. It's like, what can I say that doesn't give anything away? He still gets involved in some pretty shady stuff, but not to the point where, where you don't see some potential redemption in him. He doesn't destroy the life of a former person in his high school class. He does not. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:52 All right. Too bad. No, no Jesse Paymond. He doesn't dissolve anyone in a bathtub. No. Nicole. He doesn't. He does not do that.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Nicole and my wife are the same person. That is the number one thing they always bring up about breaking bad as that tub. That's actually where I see. stopped watching it too. It was like episode three or something. I know. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it after that.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Same with Kim. She bailed. That's where she bailed. And I had to go the rest of the way on my own. And it was, it's one of the greatest things TV ever made. And you all missed out. You guys all got stuck at that tub and never went forward.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Never made it past the tub. All right. I'm, I'm going to do a thing here that is currently on Netflix. You know, I like them documentaries. So I watch one of those. And it's a brand new one.
Starting point is 01:15:38 And I already know what this is. You probably have a good idea already, but here it is. I decided to capture the most annoying person in the entire documentary, so here it is. I remember specifically because it was my birthday, December 27th, 1983. Mark said, come here, I'm going to show you something that no one has seen. He takes out of his briefcase, the salamander letter. That was in the box. What?
Starting point is 01:16:07 What? Wow. And he says, we don't have any photographs of this. Can you photograph it? Okay. Now, he's got, there's something up with his voice and it's probably some age thing. And I'm not making fun of it. But dude, that kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:16:22 What? What? Like a disguised, uh, protected witness protection kind of thing. Yeah. That's what I thought was happening there. But that was his real voice. That was his real voice. Now, they had archival footage from this guy in the 80s and he sounded nothing like this.
Starting point is 01:16:39 It's clearly something with his, he's had some throat degradation or something weird to happen. Maybe an operation, it's hard to say. But the guy dresses like penny bags, Moneyworth or whatever his name is on the Monopoly game. A rich uncle penny bags. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:16:50 he's got like the little like watch chain. Roger Stone. Does he dress like Roger Stone? A little bit, a fat or Roger Stone. He looks like, who directed Psycho? Oh, Alfred Hitchcock? He looks like him.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Really? Yeah, just really weird. Anyway, the movie or the documentary series, which is only three total episodes, maybe it's four, I think it's three, is called, and I hate the title, because it's so curious, but it's murder among the Mormons. Murder, most foul. As soon as I saw this on Netflix, I know, I knew, it was like, all right, well, it's right up Scott's Alley because of the whole, the documentary, the murder, all that stuff. all the Salt Lake stuff. Check and check. Yep, it all happened here. And not only that, this was a huge thing when I was in high school. So this would have been 85. Yeah, 85. I'm 15 years old, 14, 15 years old. And I am having all my fun teenage time, right? Good time to be alive.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Got your back to the future going on. We just had Temple of Doom the year before. Like, you know, that's where my head is. I mean, I'm in nerd land in that era. But there was this breaking news. that you couldn't avoid about these bombings and they were so weird because they were at one point they were tied to the LDS church in some weird way because nobody knew why at first was really confusing but people that were dying were all connected to these document deals and as you know like in any kind of historical documents or pieces or whatever one of our news stories tomorrow is about an ancient Chinese relic that was found at a garage sale and it's It's worth $500.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Chinese relics, huh? Ancient Chinese secrets. And, you know, so, like, dealing in those relics. Calgon. Yeah, Calgon. It's old commercial. Dealing in those relics or dealing in those really rare pieces is obviously giant business, right? It's huge money.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And in the 80s, it was a really big deal to deal in American documentation, whether it was from, like, oh, George Washington wrote this to his wife or this letter came from. from, I don't know, King George or whatever. If you could verify that these were real original signed documents, huge money. And this was all in the middle of this document stuff and that business of document stuff. And there was this dude named Mark Hoffman who, by every account, was like this sheepish nerdy, freaking, you know, ancient artifact kind of nerd who was like going to New York all the time and over to England and supposedly finding all these. like groundbreaking, shocking original letters and original documents and all the stuff. And some of it was like, you know, refuting parts about the church. The church did not want to be
Starting point is 01:19:46 public if they were true. Turns out none of it's true because Mark Hoffman was a, was a, they were all fakes. Everything was fake. Now what makes it get weird? Like somebody counterfeiting something is one thing, right? But then starting to murder people because of it, well then things get a little weird. So he starts blowing people up who can expose him for the counterfeiter that he is. And he's in deep crap with money and stuff. So he starts, he's putting, he's building his own pipe bombs and leaving him as packages. Oh, geez. In front of their house or in front of the guy's office or whatever. So two people die. One person wasn't even the target. It was the wife of this guy. She picked up a package. It killed her. Then later, this is all before anyone
Starting point is 01:20:30 knows Hoffman did it. Hoffman's car explodes. And he's near, killed and they get him back and they and they and they he's not even a suspect they think that someone's now targeting him and he's also involved in these document exchanges so it just looks like some third party is trying to kill all these people involved in that industry and really he just built a bad bomb he built a bad well I always thought it was a bomb that was a that went off in the car by accident turns out he tried to commit suicide this I did not know had no idea but it didn't work he failed and then he used the failed suicide as a way of saying well no I I was the victim of a bombing before he ever admitted it.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Now he's fully admitted. He's been in prison forever. Weirdest dude on the planet. This guy I'm telling you, at the time, even in the 80s, I was like, 80s, I was like, this guy is nuts. And I didn't even care about news in the 80s. I didn't care. I was busy being a teenager.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But we all knew this guy, it was crazy. I even had a friend who broke his leg who's, uh, who looked like Mark Hoffman. And so whenever he wore a suit and limped around on his, on his, on his thing, like, Mark Hoffman, he's out of jail. What's going on? It was the stupidest thing, but it was such a part of local lore at the time that you couldn't avoid it. So to watch this documentary like this was a trip, dude.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And they really, what I really appreciated about it is they didn't, despite the title, the title's just stupid. Because there's always been murder among everybody. Like, knock it off. Like, so what. But what the, what the, the documentary gets right, though, is they focus squarely on the crimes and they focus on the events that let up to things. the methods he used to fool everybody, old archival video and audio.
Starting point is 01:22:08 They interviewed his wife, his ex-wife, who had no idea he was doing any of this stuff. She said, no idea. There was really great interviews with people he used to work with, including that guy that was on my clip. And it is a great, here's the way I put it. It's a great true crime documentary that doesn't overstay. It's welcome. You know, somebody just go too long. This is perfect at like three episodes.
Starting point is 01:22:32 just done and I enjoyed the heck out of it both Kim and I did it was it was really good and she has no connection to this from a local standpoint but she really enjoyed it just for the you know the investigative sort of reporting style that it uses so anyway if you're looking for a pretty good documentary that very sparingly uses that thing I hate which is reenactments I hate reenactments so much I hate them this uses that very sparingly and only in very specific situations and there's no acting involved in those, then if you like that, and you're like me, then you'll probably enjoy this. So again, that's Netflix. Murder among the Mormons. All right. Nicole, what did you bring today? Yeah. Well, I have something to share with you
Starting point is 01:23:22 since we're on the topic of murder documentaries and stuff like that. I'm catching up on SNL. Okay. There's like four episodes. So I just watched. I finished. The Jonas brother one last night. Was there a Jonas brother or brothers? Were there all the brothers there or just a brother? Well, two of the brothers. One's in the audience. The other one hosts.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I don't know which one. That's okay. I don't know who's. I think Jonas hosted. I can't remember which Jonas was in the audience. Yeah. The oldest one was in the audience. Joe Jonas, I think.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I don't care. Marlon Tito Jonas. I don't care. It doesn't matter. But certified 776. reminded me of this skit that I thought was very fitting. Here you go, Scott.
Starting point is 01:24:06 I'm putting it in the chat just for you. You can enjoy it too. Tina, this is so Tina as well, by the way, this skit, this commercial. Is it good? All right. Staying forever to load, but here it comes. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:24:20 All right, I'm going to head out. Okay, have fun. What are you going to do? I don't know, just finish up work and relax. Okay. Well, don't miss me too much. I will. All right, bye.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Finally he's God I have the whole night to unwind And do a little self-care The only way I know how I'm gonna watch a murder show I'm gonna watch a murder show Netflix show time HBO and daylight Murder show
Starting point is 01:24:52 I'm gonna watch a murder show YouTube, boo-loo that's my favorite thing to do twin sisters got killed. I'm cruising the Bahamas. I'm going to have to watch it while I fold my pajamas. That's really good. They've been on point with these.
Starting point is 01:25:07 They really have. They've recorded stuff like this. Really, really well done. I feel like, I feel seen from this. This is literally what I just did. And then Nick Jonas comes in at the end. And he's like, you've just been watching murder shows? And she's like, yeah, he goes, oh, I have something better.
Starting point is 01:25:23 And then they start doing cult shows, cult shows. Cult shows. That's really funny. Yeah, I don't know why. I take Tharsis and documentary kind of stuff like this, murder shows. And so it's funny to be, I don't know, there's weird. I feel, I feel seen. I feel seen.
Starting point is 01:25:41 It's very, it's funny. That's funny. Definitely, if you're not watching the, this year's SNL, you should. It's on Hulu. It's great. I always catch up on it. It's been really good. And even if you, you know, even if you just follow the YouTube, their YouTube account,
Starting point is 01:25:57 they put a lot of great you know all these peer recorded things go up there and that's a really good way to to catch up on the best of if uh if you don't do the full thing i love i i've been watching s and l since i was a kid i remember staying up was like one of the things that i did like my parents let me do at a very young age was to stay up and watch us and i remember watching um who was it uh laughing at jokes that i didn't understand but i knew it was funny like that kind of stuff so do what's your first cast like cast or or or players yeah who was your s&L cast yeah well i remember watching chevy chase oh wow so you yeah you started real young then but it's really like you know the one you grow up with in a certain time period when you get you start getting all the jokes and i think it's like the 80s for me with uh yeah um edie murphy joe piscopo yeah that one that felt like those that's the time where I started to understand what the crap was happening and then and then David spade Adam Sandler Phil Hartman that one yeah yeah well before that I mean I even remember when Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Michael Hall was on yeah and Randy Quaid and Joan Cousa yeah it was bad that was a terrible time hey I saw him naked the other day can I just tell you how real quick Randy Quaid Randy Quaid I watched a documentary on old shlocky movies and I'm not done with it yet which is why I'm not recommending it yet I may or may not but and there was a movie with Sybil Shepard some other people I
Starting point is 01:27:34 forgot yeah he's in a swimming pool and he's got his doodle out and I did not like it yeah that's an old that's like one of our first um last tango in Paris no no that's the one with the oil and the bum um yeah the butter that's the butter bum thing right the that you're thinking of um I know what you're you're I know what you're thinking of you're I know what you're thinking but it's not it is one of it's one of those old uh uh sybil shepherd god i can't remember yeah civil shepherd's very young in it and she's they're trying to talk her into skinny dip it in this pool with all these teenagers one of them is it is randy quaid i gotta look it up while you're well well uh Nicole is doing her movie i'm gonna i gotta look this thing up yeah so if you
Starting point is 01:28:16 all i'm saying is if you want last picture show that's it oh okay oh yeah yeah well if you want last tango in paris last picture show sure you know One had butter and a bum. The other one didn't. That's right. Well, also one had Sybil Schifford. Yeah. I don't think she was in Last Tango in Paris.
Starting point is 01:28:32 I think it was really just me. Right. I'm flating the word last in those two. Butter, bum, in Paris. All right. Cole, you have a, I do have a little. I do have a typical. Doesn't sound familiar, but team and I, it feels like we're, it feels like we're pretty close to finishing Netflix.
Starting point is 01:29:03 It's the kid that was on United States of Terra, the sun. No, I'm looking at it right now. No, we did not watch it. There's three seasons of it. It's on Netflix. Jennifer Jason Lee, careful. She's that white single girl female moving in. That'll screw up your life.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Careful. But Michael, Michael Rappaport. Is that how you say is it? Yeah, Michael Rappaport. That's how you say his name. Whatever. I like that. He's in it.
Starting point is 01:29:26 He's such a weird dude, man. Outside of acting, he is, he is a nut. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's a nut in everything. It's like he pulls it all in for his acting roles. And then when he's done acting, he's like, all right, I'm going to let it all out. Anyway, I started to watch that.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I haven't. It's about a kid on the spectrum and the family life and all of that. So it seems like a good show, but I haven't watched enough of it to say, yes, I'd definitely. But on the chat room, we're saying they love. I love it. I want to say the teen to watch this and really liked it. I can't remember why this came up around here. I think it was when we have some autism in our extended family,
Starting point is 01:30:03 I think maybe somebody was asking if somebody had seen it and whether they should watch it with their autistic son or not or something like that. I don't remember. How's Jennifer Jason Lee, though? Is this single white female or is this more like hateful eight? Fast times Richelman. Hi, Jennifer Jason Lee? No, you want.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Leeds Jennifer Jason. I want. I want hateful eight Jennifer Jason Lee. That's what I want. How's that? Oh, yeah. that's a good Jennifer Jason Lee. Yeah, I don't think you're going to get that in this.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I don't know. I mean, she's a mom. Yeah. I mean, the funny thing I identify with her because she's very much all about helping her protecting her son, trying to navigate, you know, helping him, but then also getting sucked into this is all she's ever done. So beyond that. that trying to find herself again so i think this is again only one episode i can only so it seems
Starting point is 01:30:59 like you know her husband says hey you need to do something nice for yourself her son is trying to be more independent so she goes to like a dance class um so i don't know oh all right i held that you know there's there's probably some some um angst going to happen with her sure but i don't know what chat room seems to support that idea they've some have seen it and there's Like, yeah, she's, she has a rough time in the show, I guess. She was also, Brian, remember Existens? Remember that? I totally remember Existence.
Starting point is 01:31:31 She was in that. She was playing with one of those fleshy game controller things in that movie. That's right. What's Existence? It's a garbage. It sounds like a virtuosity. Strange days. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:43 I mean, it extends with a couple extra letters in there was the name of the movie. Yeah. It does sound like a boner drug. But, uh, yeah, it's. That's a David Cronenberg thing with Jude Law that is really one of the weirdest things we ever saw. It's very weird. It's very weird. I can't recommend it, but I also kind of recommend it.
Starting point is 01:32:04 It's really hard to explain. There's Ava. Oh, hi, Eva. Oh, she's here for her close up. How are her knees? I saw her knees got all scraped up from wiping out or whatever. You want to show them your knees? No.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Yeah. She's like, I don't know. Is I show my knee on the internet? She just, it was one of those. sidewalk hits, you know, we were walking down the sidewalk, and there was just a little lift to the sidewalk, and she just felt Facebooks. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I'm glad she's okay. She's all right now. Yeah. She's a trooper. That's right. All right. I should probably give you my movie. Oh, yeah, what's your movie? Sure. Not looking. Existence. Ava and I watched this yesterday. All right. I'm hitting the play button. Hopefully the sound isn't bad.
Starting point is 01:32:48 We'll find out. Back to the days of your down at the old barber's shop. It's a little quiet, that it's okay. with it. Hello. Hello. Mee-Bee! I have no idea what this could be. Oh, no, it's a barbershop for cats.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Yeah, you go, bum-paw, Bump-paw, wait a minute, what are you doing? With the lights out. You're ruining one of the greatest songs at all time. So wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Is this new or old or what is this? Because Jack Black looks young in that. That was the movie. That was just the movie, The Muppets with Jason. Jason Segal. Oh, I forgot that was in there. Yeah, yeah. So this is, that is like they're doing their Save the Theater kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:33:50 And so they had all these different like current songs. and they Muppetized them. And that was one of my favorite ones that they did. And it had Jack Black in it. You heard Jack Black. Yeah, he's chilling. It's streaming on Netflix. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 01:34:04 I don't know if it's on Disney Plus. I would, Disney Plus is weird about, but there's a lot of Muppet stuff that's not there. Like licensing goes to somebody else. And it might be a placeholder for it. They acquired them so they don't have. it's not like they've always owned them
Starting point is 01:34:24 so I think some of that stuff spread out other other studios have rights to play it or do whatever so that makes sense so it's just called the Muppets it was I really feel like it was the movie that kind of rebooted the Muppets because it is
Starting point is 01:34:40 one of my favorites and I like the sequel to this one too which is America's most is America's most want it or what's it called? Muppets most wanted Muppets Most Wanted, that's it. Muppets Most Wanted.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Muppets Most Wanted. So because Brett from Fly of the Concords did the music, wrote the music in both of these movies. And you can totally tell it. And they're great. It's so great. It's weird how old these are now, 2011 and 2014. I thought that was yesterday. That's crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:35:11 It feels like yesterday, but it wasn't. I could go for, I need a new Muppets-based movie of some sort. Let's get that done. So the movie. By the way, the movie The Muppets is on Disney Plus, along with Muppets Most Wanted, as well as that new Muppets Now, which I haven't seen any of. I have no idea how, yeah, you watched it. That's all owned by Disney. That was a, that was a recommendal a few weeks ago, right?
Starting point is 01:35:38 Like you'd watched and said, yeah, there's some things in there that are. No, no, no, that's the Muppet show, the 1976 show that I've talked. Muppets now is like Zoom called, it's like Zoom called Muppets. right it's like what they tried to do on it was it ABC where they did the talk to the camera thing and some people liked it I did that was the ABC that was just called I think that was also just called the Muppets whereas like the office but with Muppets oh that was before right that's that's a few years ago that was maybe four years ago yeah and I and I had high hopes in that I mean the problem with both the things you're describing isn't the formats it's the writing just didn't live up to what it could do they just didn't live up to what it could do they just just need better writers. I mean, they just need the Muppets themselves. It was the acting. Yeah, it was just the acting.
Starting point is 01:36:27 They're just phoned. I wish to Jason's, I wrote, because the whole this movie, the Muppets, was from what I understand, spearheaded by Jason Siegel. And I wish she was involved again. Like, you could tell he loved the Muppets. And he did amazing stuff with this movie and how it came together and introduced a new character that Walter's great. I love Walter.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Walter is great. I also love that Scooter worked at Google. I thought that was funny. There was all kinds of great modern stuff and old throwbacks. And it was a good return to form. I thought that that 2011 thing was great. Yeah. I cried.
Starting point is 01:37:06 I went to the theaters to see this. And I cried when they did the whole intro and rainbow connect. I was like, too much nostalgia. I know, right? They'll get you. I guess I haven't seen the second one. I was trying to see if I had. And I don't think I've seen this.
Starting point is 01:37:21 funny. Yeah, I didn't see that one either. The music is great. The music is great in that one, too. Ricky Jervais, Ty Borel, Steve Whitmire, Tina Faye. There's a lot of good people in this. Hmm. Jermaine Clement. Germaine. He's one of, he is a prisoner in the gulag with Kermit. Oh, that's fantastic. It's so silly. I love it. Josh Brolin is in that one. These are thankfully all on Disney Plus, because this is, back when they owned them or had already bought them. So I guess they've owned them since the late 90s. Do you know if the second one is on Netflix, Brian? Yeah, Muppets Most Wanted is on Netflix. Okay, so if you have Netflix or Disney Plus, you can watch both of them. I'm sorry, not, did I say Netflix? I meant Disney Plus.
Starting point is 01:38:06 So you've got Muppets, Muppets Most Wanted, Muppet Treasure Island, the original Muppet movie, Great Muppet Caper, Muppet, Christmas Carol, something called Muppet Moments, as you mentioned, of course, the original Muppet show, the ABC. series and then this Muppets and Al thing. Well, they're just Muppet babies. Right now, I feel like
Starting point is 01:38:29 they have the property and they just don't know what to do with it. Yeah, it does feel like that. Throwing spaghetti on a wall and hoping something sticks. Yeah. Maybe they're hoping to quit phoning it in or as you'd say with Muppets, they need to stop foaming it in.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Exactly. That's all right. You guys can use that one. Just take the, just, you know, credit. Give me some credit for it. but that's the best joke in there all day. All right. Oh, no, Muppet babies.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Huh? Yeah, the Muppet babies are in there, too. That's because they suck. And Muppet babies show and tell. Muppet babies are terrible. Bite your tongue. They're terrible. Talking about, don't do it, Scott.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Nicole, they're not. And Muppet babies play ball. Okay, but either way, any of them with the babies on it, garbogio, they're terrible. Stop. Terrible. I will go to my grave. No. Wonderful.
Starting point is 01:39:21 They're so bad. You and I agree on so many things. But here? Not the Muppet Babies. Don't you talk about my Muppet Babies. I freaking hate him so bad. All right. There you go.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Some good recommendals, folks, today. The wide-ranging gamut of quality television. We got crime documentaries. We got good old-fashioned drama. And then right back down to some good kid-friendly stuff with Muppets. So go check it out. Oh, and watch S&L while you're at it. Nicole will put all this stuff up on her Twitter account.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Nicole Spag. Nicole, have a fantastic day. D or day D. I'm a good D We'll see you later. All right, Brian, hey, want to hear a mashup just in? It was just came in. I do.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Oh, good, because this one's called Cloakliel vent. Right. And I'm nervous. Well, and it's also got that those letters at the end, right? That SBSA. Yeah, and that means. And I'm going to tell you that that means it's a TMS sing-along.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Oh, good. Enjoy that. Yeah, we have a new, we have a new breakdown here. it's B-I-I-I-I it's Ibit impressions. If it's S-B-T, it's Scott pronounces things badly. If it's PRS, it's poorly remembered shit. He's got a new, he's got like a little legend here. A whole little, it's like the Dewey Decimal System for mashups. I love it. We can finally figure this stuff out. All right. Here it is. Enjoy. I've got to buy it on the. The Willie. The Willie.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Jerry Goldsmith, our most prolific film sack. You better get off my plate. You better get off my plate. I knew this is going to happen if I brought it. Give you a parachute and rap cord around your neck and then you go to get off my plate. And it just really was what I needed for whatever reason. It just hit me right this weekend. I got a weird face, but it's kind of cool, too.
Starting point is 01:41:20 She's a lady. Whoa, whoa, whoa, she's a lady. Talking about something, something lady. I don't know the lyrics. She's a lady. Hold on tight to your butts. Hold on tight to your butts. Pearl Jam's head man.
Starting point is 01:41:46 He's 51 years old. He's been around for a while. He's been a while. Recognize your face. Haunted, familiar. Him to rain. Hear me the wicked. He will.
Starting point is 01:42:03 It's a Frank Sinatra song. There's an awful lot of coffee in Brazil. Is that really? It's a song, yeah. That is probably exactly how it sounds. For real. Doobie, doby, love that coffee in Brazil. A lot of coffee in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:42:20 We're going to hear this. Oh, I was going to say, okay, here we go. So they've got to find those extra cups to fill the end. They've got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil. That's amazing. That's amazing. Oh, my gosh. My new favorite Sinatra song.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Oh, fantastic. Incredible. The well-preserved booty hole belongs to the dinosaur Pistocococcus. Yeah, the only, you just don't pronounce the P. The Cicissaurus. There we go. I don't like that one. I like Cicisaurus, but Sinai.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I can't not lie. It's well-preserved. I can't deny. When a girl walks in with a cloacled vent, I get sprung. I'd forgotten about cloacal vent. I did too. Nice to be reminded. I think that turned into a show title, an episode title, if I remember correctly.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Well, if it didn't, we screwed up. That's what I can say about that. We didn't do our jobs. Hey, well, well done there, Jamie. Didn't expect those today. A bunch of new ones in there. We'll have some bonuses to play throughout this week and next. So stick around for more of that.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Quick email about which arm to get my shot in. Hey, Scott, I thought I'd send you an email, but my thoughts on the Pfizer before you get it. I had zero side effects both times. That's cool. Some people have that. A lot of people don't. In terms of what arm to get it in,
Starting point is 01:43:40 I chose the side that I sleep on the least as to not disrupt that night's sleep in case of any pain. For me, I got the shot in the right arm. So my dominant arm, I did this both times. I've heard a lot of rumor that the shot is painful, but I felt very little, pretty easy on shots as far as shots go. Let's see. Before both doses, I exercise, and then after the shot,
Starting point is 01:43:59 I moved my arm like crazy throughout the day. The only side effect I had was slight soreness in the next day. In my second shot, this one may tend to have more side effects with other people. Let's see, let me know when you try these, or if you try these, and if they work for you, at this point, I feel like I need to gather scientific data on this because my experience was so freaking easy. Good luck, Steph. Well, Steph, I hope I get a Steph infection like you.
Starting point is 01:44:25 And they do it that. But actually, I think she helped me make my decision. I'm going to do the right arm because I sleep on my left. And if I sleep on my right arm, I tend to snore a ton. If I sleep on my left arm, I don't. So I'm going to do the right arm. That's what I'm going to do. There you go.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Okay. And that is your dominant arm anyway, right? That's the arm that you've drawn right and everything looks up. Look at it. It's like beating up the other arm. Oh, my gosh. It's, uh... Oh, dominant. It's dominated this other arm. It's a BDSM arm. Exactly. So check it out, everybody. We'll let you know on the 19th how that goes. I'm a little bummed that that's the same day as Winter Soldier and the Falcon deal. Really? Because if I have side effects, I don't want to feel bad while I'm watching that.
Starting point is 01:45:11 You won't get, I don't think you're going to get side effects that day. If you're going to get side effects, it'll probably be the next day. All right. That's good to know. So it'll be right just in time for FilmSack. Yeah, PhilSack morning. I'll be in bright and bushy-tailed, ready to roll. Exactly. All right. Well done.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Thank you very much for that email. You can send those emails like Steph did to FilmSack. Or film sack. The morning stream at gmail.com. The morning stream at gmail.com. And also visit our website, frogpans. com slash TMS. That points to our Patreon and you're going to want to sign up because Brian and I are
Starting point is 01:45:43 talking about some cool extra bonuses some people might get. You know, we ought to do is like every month just come up with like a little extra something. Yeah. A little bonus. Now that I, now that this 3D printer has a large plate, I can do multiples at a time instead of having to like glow things up, clean it off, pull one item off the plate, then start it up again. So I can do, you know, if we do like a little medallion, I still want to do little miniature Scott and Brian figures and cartoonized like Wallace and Grommett looking or whatever. sure yeah we just need someone to we just need somebody to design it yeah we need three we need a 3D designer and here's the two things we want you to do okay little brian and scott figures okay that's
Starting point is 01:46:25 number one number two i want to make a little uh i want a can like from fred and can i want a oh sure that brian can easily print maybe a little small that i could do right now scott i could do i could do a fred and can can can we just need the label part that's the that's the hard part right so uh yeah you'd have to have some stickers printed up and then i'll send a bunch of cans to you guys and you can have a sticking labels on cans day. And that's, and Verovina
Starting point is 01:46:53 that's what we're saying is that we would we would, this might be a bonus for one month of somebody at a certain level. I don't know what level it would be, but it would have to be one of the higher, not higher ones, but one of the ones that aren't a dollar. Right. But we'll come up with something. We can't make it financially
Starting point is 01:47:09 cost more to ship, to print and ship you something than the measly buck. You give us every month. We appreciate, trust us. We appreciate it, but I was chanting a little Justin Robert Young there. Did you feel it? I did feel it.
Starting point is 01:47:24 It's weird. If you can't give us more than a dollar. And it's like the voice that you know he wants to drop three F bombs right now, but he won't because we're on the air. Exactly, yes. Yeah, that's the one. The jury will now retire. All right, he's out of here again. Anyway, so that's that.
Starting point is 01:47:42 We'll let you know more as we get closer to it. For now, though, we need to exit the best. building to do that. We need to play a song. So, Brian, will you please play a song? I will do it. Yes, we, we 100% appreciate the dollar. If you're only able to give us a dollar a month, we absolutely appreciate that. And I'm not at all disparaging you for your donation, your support of the show. Yeah. All right, let's get to a request. This one came in from Old Man Quill. He's another person that is on my soon-to-be ex-Marvel Strike Force Alliance team, but he's been listening to TMS and the whole Frighton's in Coverville Library for quite some time.
Starting point is 01:48:19 He says, hey there, Scott and Brian, today I'm celebrating my 28th birthday as well as my second one in quarantine. Things are looking up. I should have gotten my first jab on Tuesday. So another thing to celebrate. 28 years old, you got your first jab. Damn it. Nice. He might maybe have a thing or a reason. He might have a thing, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Or might work in a field that requires it. In any case, congratulations. Old Man Quill. I have no specific request, but I love things from the Pickin'on series of bluegrass covers. Don't forget your towel. Don't forget your towel. And keep on hitchhiking, guys. P.S. Brian, if you quit Marvel Strike Force, then Charles
Starting point is 01:48:57 has won, and you can't let that happen. Charles McFall, who I co, like I started the alliance with 1,200 days ago. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah, 1200 play days ago. Oh, man. 1,200. Yeah, not just play days. that's every day. That is me, even
Starting point is 01:49:15 like when I'm on vacation or going somewhere, that's me at least pulling up, pulling up on my phone and clicking the collect orbs and whatever checking in. So Oh, sorry. That's why I'm quitting. That's basically it's like, what's it like? It's like
Starting point is 01:49:30 it's bad. I hate slash played. What was that? God, everyone was doing Farmville. It's like effing Farmville. Yeah, it really is. You're just playing Farmville with Marvel Farm is what it is. But you know I found out, Scott? What?
Starting point is 01:49:45 Net Marble has a Marvel MMO coming out later this year, a mobile MMO Marvel. Oh, I heard about that. Yes, I didn't know about this until yesterday. Marvel Future Revolution. Yeah, probably going to mess around with that a little, probably. I'm going to get, do we know anybody at Net Marble, Beta, Beta, Net Marble? Net Marble. Net Marble, Net Marble.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Not Net Marble, not Net Marble. All right, let's do this. So I think I better quit that game before I start this one. Yeah, you got to swap out. You can't have two Marvel games at once, I'm telling you. I can't. I can't do it. All right, anyway, here you go.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Old Man Quill, you like that Picking-on stuff, do you? Me too. Back in 2005, the Picking-on series released Picking-on Beck, a tribute to the music of Beck. I listened that whole album this morning, and I got to say this is one of my favorites on there. It's a cover of Beck's Devil's Haircut. Here is the Pickingon series. I, I, I, aye, I, aye, I The spring promise to that it died
Starting point is 01:51:19 Oh, well, dear, I did my back Ever since you said goodbye Cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, cry, right. Let us do what lovers do Come on, baby, I told the truth Stick to the plan Take it like a man Take it like a man
Starting point is 01:51:47 Take it like a man Take it like a man Said you'd love me to the end Caught me kissing your best friend You will always be my guy Don't lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, let us do what lovers do. Come on, baby, I've told the truth. Stick it to the bad.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Take it like a man. Take it like a man. Take it like a man. Take it like a man. What's the matter with you, baby? Don't you love me no more. I'm just sitting here waiting to see you. Come on through a door.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Let us do what lovers do. Come on, baby, I told the truth. Stick to the firm. Take it like a man. Take it like a man. Take it like a man. Hey, yeah. Take it like a man.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Take it like a man. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Go start without me and I'll be right down. right now.

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