The Morning Stream - TMS 2081: 28 Centimeters Later

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS, the morning stream for Thursday, March 11th, 2021. So we got a 3-1-1-21. 3-1-2-1. 3-11 day. So get out your amber. Amber is the color of my energy. Hold on. Smoke a bong.

Oh, I love those guys. Those guys are great. And you know what else? They made some pretty decent recent music. Oh, really? Yeah, no one knows about it. There's this album. What's it called?

Hold on. I'm going to tell you this album name. We're going to do a service here for everybody. All right. Glad you brought 311 up. Oh, and yesterday was Mario Day, and I'm sorry we didn't celebrate everybody, okay? You have to forgive us. Yeah.

All right, 311. Here's their latest album. Or no, is this the latest one? Hold on. Is it Voyager? Oh, crap. They've done a lot of stuff. Really?

Wow. Yeah. I thought that this was a band that said, hey, man. All right, we're done in 2000. and probably just 2000 is probably what I would have said that they were. They're busy boys. They got this new album, well, 2019, so newish. 311's, it's called Voyager.

This is where they get lost in space and have to try to come home. So that's an interesting bit. I saw that album in the bargain bin with a little bit of its label worn off, and I thought it was Viger. Oh, nice. Nice. Listen, Star Trek fans, you've gotten all you're going to get today. All right.

Well, well, we can only make it work. first by bringing Daryl on. Anyway, so the point is, this album cover's cool because it reminds me of old like Boston, you know, that Boston cover art they used to do for Boston album. But the music's great. It's got a really good couple songs in there. One's called

Crossfire. Another one, don't you worry? It's like totally, like, legit 311. If you like 311, it's good. This is the most yes-looking album cover, like Roger Dean yes-looking album cover. Oh, big time. Here, chat. You can see it. And this is a band.

that figured out that 311 logo really early on and just said, yeah, this is us, we're sticking with this logo. Like, you find there's a few bands out there that define a logo right at the beginning and stick with it their whole career. Yep,

they're one of them. There's like maybe one or two albums where they don't use it on the cover, but I guess Metallica uses it as the same they get the same. Metallica sticks with it. Typo Negative did that whole like, we're going wrap our name around the corner, upper right corner, and then the album name will be in the

bottom. Oh, right. Right, right. What's the chat talking about? I don't want to know now. Claire, you drink it again this morning. Jeez, Louise. All right. Moving on. Hey. They're all mixed up. They don't know what to do. Don't know what to do. Stick it in your butt. And then you go do to do. All right, well done. Hey, a couple great things this morning. It's a big day. It's a big day. And we got a lot of things to say. I'm going to say something controversial. Okay. Okay. All right. Um, the, uh, this got me in some trouble and I was surprised because I thought this was an okay take, but apparently it's a hot take. It's a hot take. Um, I rewatched because I couldn't sleep, uh, two nights ago. Sure. Uh, so what, there's a terrible thing to watch when you can't sleep because then I couldn't sleep more, but

I watched, uh, 28 weeks later, days later. Sorry. No, weeks, sorry. 28 days. Weeks, weeks. Weeks, not Weeks. Okay. I watched 28 weeks later. The second one, the one with a dude who was Rumpel Stiltskin on Once Upon the Time, right? Yeah. Robert Carlyle. That is correct.

Robert Carlyle. Thank you. Yeah. Famous for also being in a lot of Danny Boyle stuff. Yes. And ironically, this is a sequel to a film directed by Danny Boyle, but this sequel not directed by him. But, you know, similar thing. And it's set in the same exact plague of the rage virus.

It's just set 28 days later. after things have sort of calmed down. They've quarantined London and Chunky England and all that. Anyway, if you've never seen it, you're missing out because I believe that 20, I really like 28 days later, okay? But in the same way that I really like alien or the same way I really like a new hope, I might like aliens or Empire Strikes Back a little better. Absolutely. So I'm not, yeah, those are good examples. the prove takes. And I say, man, it's been so long since I've seen either 28 days or 28 weeks later, 20 days later, 20 weeks later. I'm just, you know, shortening it. Sure. Why not?

There are probably things that I'm thinking, oh, is that, was that in the first movie or was that in the second movie? Was that, like, when he's up in the upper level of the church and he sees the two guys down there infected with the rage virus, and then they see him and they start running up, was that in the first movie or the second movie? That's the first movie. That's that church scene. And it's amazing that scene. It is so good. But, I mean, that's the thing. It's like I easily conflate the two. Was Killian Murphy the main dude in the first one? Yes, you get to see his weiner in it in the beginning. Okay. Because he's in the hospital bed, remember?

And he wakes up and he doesn't know what's going on and he's laying there with his weiner out. Yeah, it's just funny that. It's why does that even surprise me that that's the first thing you say? Why? It's almost the first thing you see in the movie. It's like, hey, what's going on in this movie? Oh, his wiener is out. So you can't avoid it.

It's just right there. It's looking at you. Anyway, so that's a thing. Those 28 centimeters later is the first 20. So this second movie, in my opinion, is just a better, I just like it better. I think it's a good escalation of things. They add a whole bunch of really interesting actors to it. There's no continuation of any of the previous character story, which maybe is why people

don't like it. I don't know. Or people may disagree with my take. But it's got a very young Imogen Poots. Oh, really? I like Imogen Poots. Like her second thing or something she ever did? This is 07 we're talking about. It's got Jeremy

Renner as a sharpshooter American soldier who's part of the coalition to help quarantine the city. Jeremy Renner before anyone really knew who he was. And he was great in this. Also, I think it's great he's a sharpshooter, just like he is in Hawking. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of a nice

little, I'm a good typecast kind of thing. He's going to only be able to shoot things really good. Right, exactly. Guess what I shut things in her luck or two. Great. It's got Rose Byrne. You like her. She's great.

Oh, I love Roseburn. Yeah. You got your, who's the really good looking handsome black dude that's English but plays American a lot? Idriselba. There you go. Idriselba plays the American general. Have you ever seen Luther, by the way?

Yeah, Luther's awesome. Loved it. Is it? Yeah, we missed that on a trivia question a couple weeks ago. and none of us on the team had ever watched an episode of Luther but I hear good things about it and it's like oh maybe you should go and watch

you should watch Luther it's a good binge Kim and I'd love to Kim especially she was really into it and there's talk of like a movie or a new series or something that's what I'm hearing yeah yeah which would be great

he's awesome in it but just a really solid cast I think this director nailed what those movies need to feel like it's not afraid to get really visceral one of the most harrowing intro scenes in the history of zombie movies it's amazing. It's a great, great sequel. Say what? What's it streaming on?

Hulu. That's where I saw. Disney Plus. Yeah, Disney Plus and they have a beaded thing. You've got to walk through a little curtain to see it. Hulu. Okay, cool. Yeah, it's on Hulu. I cannot recommend it enough. That's my favorite of the two. I do need to watch both of them again. Do you know if both of them are on there or just? Oh, I didn't check for the other one. It may be. I saw that also recently-ish because I also, like I say, I love that first movie. It's very good. I just think this is a, this is the kind of escalation that does remind me of why we liked aliens, why we liked Empire, why we like, sometimes we like our second in our trilogy, even though this movie never had a third one, but, you know, not streaming, but rentable and all that stuff. That's a bummer. It's a bummer. Be cool if they're both out. It would be, yeah. Still, that's, um, that's, the fact that it's, it's only a sequel really in overall storyline, where you, you, you, you. You don't have to watch the first one to be able to follow the second one.

Wouldn't it be great if 28 days later was a sequel to 28 days? I think so. Like basically, Sandra Bullock goes into rehab, infects people with the rage virus, and then 28 days later, Julian Murphy wakes up with his doodle out. Yeah, I'd be into it. I'd be into it. We don't want to know why his doodles out or what she had to do with it, but it's out.

That'd be great. Yeah, I would bet. I always forget that there's that movie called 28 days, Just 28 days, right? Just plain 28 days, yeah. All right, well, we'll see what happens later for her. Anyway, it's a good time, and I'm just going to remain to hold on to my take. And a lot of people agreed with me, but a whole bunch of people on Twitter,

just like up in arm telling me how wrong. Really? God, that's such a weird thing to get angry about. Yeah. That's an innocuous set of movies to be, Oh, you're crazy if you think that one's better than the other one. Yeah. Well, you know how we get.

In the internet, it's a, it's a rough and tumble place. Hey, Brian, just put this. Rainbow Bright just reminded me. Did you ever see Train to Busan? Yes, that was great. Oh, so good. And now there's a sequel to that. Yeah, and that one's not on a train, though, right?

It's like a, uh, it's all outside or something. Subway to Busan. I got a subway with the zombies would be pretty damn pretty. I think it's like in the city or something. I think it might be, yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen, I haven't seen that one. Which is interesting because the whole first thing, what made it so insane was the train. Like the train is what made it.

that you're in this moving yeah right like where you uh you need that that confined area that that specific environment the bus everybody's on the bus hot shot pop quiz yeah and it's like all right let's expand that to a boat this really just could have been any movie i'm pretty sure i watched that because you recommended it actually i think that was um yeah i think i think i think it was you here on the show and i said you know what sounds like you you you know you went with one of my Korean recommendations. Yeah, well, look, I grew up with Koreans. I'm just sick of these Koreans, you know?

I just can't be around them. You know, and Parasite is going to be one that will be great. You know, if your brother comes over, it'll be a good one to watch with him. Yeah, I mean, I cannot wait to sit down with my brother Matt and watch Parasite. He's such a goofball. I don't know if I can make it through it. I just don't know. He's just not like my brother Matt is not the type to sit down and go.

Sit down and watch a movie. Oh, really? The cultural significance of this particular. He won't do any of that. He'll sit down and go, all right. He'll go, put my finger. I have to. fart. That's my brother.

Gotcha. Okay. Well, maybe, maybe, oh my God, I can't remember, not Misha, your other sister's name. Misha, Tara, and Matt. Tara. Who's the one I met in Vegas? Misha. That was Misha. That is Misha. Okay. What was I thinking that wasn't Misha? Yeah, she's the one that said, when they said, how do you like your eggs? And she said cooked. That was her. Do you remember that? You were there, I totally remember that. Yes, she was sitting two feet away for me. She is a person. Maybe she's

watching with you. She's traveled all over the world. She's been everywhere. Indonesia, all of Asia. She's been to Europe. She's been to Canada. She's been to all everywhere.

And then in Vegas, when someone said, how do you like your eggs? And she says cooked and meant it. It wasn't like she was trying to be funny. And it was because she's never gotten the question, hard boiled,

fried over easy, scrambled, poached. I couldn't. believe it. Like, I still am a little bit shocked, so I tease her about it every time I see her, because that's what brothers do. And I'm happy to do it. I don't mind. Unfertilized. Hey, Brian sent me a Gizmodo

leak that I now would really like us to talk about. This is amazing. Yes. So, I thought of you as soon as I saw this because it's got the, so, okay, so describing for theater of the mind, folks listening via audio, this is a wall hanging

for fans of video games, and it's basically the Pong game, but instead of it being a stand-up arcade, it is a relatively flat, two-dimensional wall hanging with a screen built-in controls so you can actually play, and underneath it is a clear shadow box that actually has the motherboard of the game in there. Yeah, the main game board in it. That is so cool. And as soon as I saw the game board, I'm thinking, oh, my God, you've got those in your,

in your garage. How cool would it be to make one of these for whatever, hit and run, or mapy, or whatever it is you have. What do I even have? Let me think for a second. I've got the sit-down Pac-Man one. I could tear that apart.

And then the other one, I think, is a Gallagab board. A Gallagab board? Yeah. How cool would a Gallagab board be? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

Oh, that's such a cool idea. If I had loads of money, just tons of it, I just had like 50s made and just put classic games all across the wall. Yeah. It doesn't take up any room either and you can just walk there,

up there along the wall and you just kind of lean up i guess it's you know you're playing like this as opposed to the the ergonomically correct hands down but uh still what's crazy is now this is i would i wouldn't even mind doing a bit of a cheat because i'm pretty sure some of these boards i have are not functional what they've done here is that's an actual functional pong board they've they've connected it with some modern stuff to make it convert you wouldn't need that right you could stick a little uh you totally emulate it wouldn't need this a little raspberry pie in there and then just fake the board. Yeah.

And the board would just, the board is all about, hey, look at that original ancient freaking board. Exactly. Oh, Brian. Not O'Brien, like Chief O'Brien. O'Brien. Oh, Brian.

Teleport me down to the surface of the planet. Speaking and speaking of games, the next time we have Stephen Schleiker on, which would be Monday, we need to ask him about his one-up Marvel pinball game. Oh, yeah. Because I'm keeping my eye on his, his experience with that because I've

always wanted a pinball machine down here. Yeah. And but having something like that that's a lot smaller, but still has like eight games on it, yeah, it's video, but if the physics are good and if it feels like, like they've got little um,

uh, haptic sensors. Is it haptic sensors? Like, like little, little flick, flick, flick things in the yeah, like your, like your new PS5 controller has those awesome haptics. It's like that. Right. Right. Yeah. It has that in the, in the flipper buttons so that it feels like when that thing hits a bumper, you feel it. Oh, that's really cool.

I'd say I'd prefer that because then you could have every table in the world reproduce. Right, yeah, you can mod those and actually put other tables on there. Oh, all right, Monday we ask. We ask the question. Yeah, Monday we ask. And then Monday afternoon, I'll be broke because I'll have bought one. We can just resin print it, make your own, you know? It'll be fine.

I could. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you want to see how... Yeah, let's see progress. If we're not far down a rabbit hole, I have the next thing I'm going to be resin printing if you want to see it. No, let's take a look. I like these updates. I give you a link.

Link coming. Because at the end of the day, we're a bunch of creatives here, you know. We got to share. This was sent to me by a listener. Okay. The link to this to say, here's what you should print. Let's see. It was sent by, oh, Brucey Cakes.

Brucey Cakes sent this over. And it's a Mandalorian print, and this thing looks amazing, like a really cool sculpt. This thing actually prints without supports. I, you know, I print it with supports on the resin printer, but it's a really cool looking pose. It's beautiful. Looks like bronze or something. He, yeah, he did a bronze paint job on there. Which I would probably, to be honest, I would probably start with a silver bronze spray paint on it and then paint all of the other things.

Yeah. Like basically, I'd want to get that sheen from a spray paint as opposed to a brush paint job to get the really nice sheen on the metal. Yeah. And then manually paint the other parts. It looks great. Yeah, I would want, you know what I want. I want a full-size bronze statue of this. in my yard. That's what I really want.

Just your front yard. Yeah. Build a little topiary garden around it, you know, and just have that be the center of it. That's so cool. I see nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Yeah. I mean, so anyway, I'll be, I'll be probably 3D print. I'll actually get that on the plate. How long does a project like that take?

Like if you from start to finish. It really depends on how big I want to make it. I'm trying to decide if I think I want to, I'm going to shoot for making it as tall as, and I don't have him down. down here. Well, let's see, as tall as Jeff Goldblum here. Oh, all right. I'm going to make it very sparkly. It's going to be very sparkly. I'll get it finished in three steps. Step one. I'll get it on the 3D printer there. Step 2. Printed and there's no step 3. There's no step 3. You are actually going to have a resin tour. So does he, does he, is he in that new Thor movie, or he's died?

Yes. Oh, I don't know, actually. Okay. I really hope he was. Yeah. He was great. I bet he's not. I'll bet, um.

Wouldn't they leave him somewhere? What was the deal? They left him in the garbage dump. Oh, that's right. Okay. Maybe he will, I mean, that's an opportunity to like, now he'll lead the garbage people and, uh, come back stronger than ever. On Planet Hulk.

Yeah, if we, uh, who knows? I mean, he's the, the games master, right? Games. Games master. Game master? Game master? Shoot. James, the James Master. The James Master. Stairmaster. No, I don't know. I have no idea. Anyway, um, yeah, so I mean, we, you know, we could see him later on down the line. I could actually see him, Grandmaster. Thank you, Red Fragel, Crime. Thank you very much. How did I forget that. I can see him in a future Guardians of the Galaxy movie because that really is kind of the lore of the lore. where he fits and maybe with Thor um and the guardians traveling together maybe we do get him in the next movie yeah we may well well I know one thing for sure and that is that we need to talk some science so I'm gonna play this button I think science is cool so do I and thankfully Bobby Frankenberger which is really just an undead reanimated burger uh yeah has joined us

All the way from... A burger assembled from parts of other burgers? Yeah, they go find other burgers from dumpsters and stuff, and then you make a new burger and then... How do you feel about this intro, Bobby? Yeah, what do you think, buddy? I've heard it all. I've had this name Frankenberger my entire life, believe it or not,

and I've heard every... Everything. Yeah, you probably have. I feel like some of us have had... Like, what rhymes with Ibitt? Nothing. Nobody made fun of Ibbit, right? No, nobody... They could barely pronounce...

it, let alone come up with something that rhymes with it. Yeah, good points. I was always like Johnson and Johnson or weiner jokes. Or weiner jokes, exactly. Everyone wonders why I say so many weiner jokes. Well, let me tell you, I had a lifetime of being really killed. Yeah. But Frankenberger, I just don't even know what you did.

Weir jokes were thrust upon you. They were. But it's not like your name was like Michael Hunt or some other horrible combination of words and sounds. But yeah, I'm sure it was fun. under hair. I love it because it's so unique. There's never going to be another Bobby Frankenberger on this planet. Name one. You can't. I can't.

Yeah. And yeah, booby Frankenbigger was the work that guy, I think. Oh, you're going to regret ever giving us that one. I lean into it. You know, when you you've got to, you just got to accept who you are and what your name is

and I think it's funny. I do too. It is. It's very funny. That caught me off guard. Thank you for that. All right. Well, Bobby's here to talk some science. And today, in particular, some changes were made in the CDC guidelines regarding COVID in its current, sort of in our current state of where things are. And it surprised me a little, that it seemed, it seemed a little less cautious, given that, you know, transmission can still happen from people who have been, well, I guess we don't have full data on how transmission works with people who've got the vaccine. Plus, it, that may. differ between vaccines and so there's that whole factor like there's all those things i i guess i was just surprised that they quote unquote loosened up so much yeah and normally the cdc is quite cautious on their recommendations right normally they're airing way on the side of caution in order to because their job is to have broad blanketing recommendations that people can use to

form their own guidelines that are going to keep people safe right right so it normally they air on the side of caution. But just in case people haven't heard the news because it just came out a day or two ago, the CDC's new guidelines for COVID-19 have to do with people that are fully vaccinated since that's happening now. And there's a lot of little details, but the real crux of the guidelines is that fully vaccinated people can now gather indoors together unmasked without socially distancing, as long as everyone involved has been fully vaccinated. Great. Now we have a new set of star-bellied sneaches that can only get together by themselves. Another club that I'm not part of.

But if there's like, you know, if you're used to going to some weird orgy on the weekends that you haven't been able to for a year, now all of those friends, if they get vaccinated, you can all go back to your orgy time, right? Yeah, now you have criteria for who to let into the orgy. Right, right. This makes sense to me. Next key party at my place, everybody. Well, let me ask you this because this actually came up in conversation with Kim and I, because we're getting our appointments are on the 19th for our first shots. And so we're just starting to think about timing and all that.

And we're going to go by whatever the guidelines are in terms of get the shots, get the, you know, still say, say, stay safe. Stay safe. Baugh. You go the three weeks, you get your second jab. And then whatever the rules are about a little bit of time after that, I don't know what it is right now. It's like two weeks, three weeks, whatever it is to, you know, to let things take hold or whatever. But then let's say Kim and I were like, oh, right, we're, we've done our hearts best through this year.

We're now going to go to Las Vegas, Nevada, whatever, right? Right. That's not what they mean, because that's just us flaunting it around and hanging out and being there and not. That's not it, right? Like, it's not what they're saying. No, that's not. So that's, there are, there are, there are recommendations that are changing and some that are staying very much the same. Our very good Dr. Jerry in the chat was making the same point just now that this is more for helping, this is more guidance for helping like family and friends get back together into some level of normalcy and just help transition people. It's not for large events and big public spaces. All of those guidelines are mostly staying the same. Now, specifically, if you're going, even if you are vaccinated, they're still recommending that you not, that you remain, avoid medium to large sized public gatherings, avoid poorly ventilated spaces with, with, you know, some number of people, you know, there is still avoid those things. And if you have to be there, still wear a mask and still socially distance. And that has a lot to do with what you were just talking about a minute ago, Scott, which is we don't have all the data yet about how transmission is happening with vaccinated people.

So they do want to be cautious there. This is a lot about like you've been vaccinated. Your grandmother's been vaccinated. Now you guys can hug each other again. Right. Stuff like that. Right, right, right. Now, that makes sense. So they don't want us running around and whatever, but I could, I might be able to say,

hey, we pretty much haven't been to a public restaurant, outdoor, indoor for a year. So I think I might take Kim to this one place that's, that we know is super careful about stuff anyway. We might be able to do that, right? Like maybe. Yeah, that's the, those recommendations are still the same. So you still want to be cautious about that. And you want to make sure you're not going to places, going. going, if you're going to go anywhere, make sure you're going somewhere that is taking all the

necessary precautions, but still be as cautious as you were about that before. Okay. Um, and, and just, you know, we're easing ourselves into changing the way that, that things are done. Also, another important thing, by the way, is to understand what fully vaccinated means. I don't think we should go too far without defining that. Fully vaccinated means that you have for two full weeks gotten your last dose of a vaccine regimen. That means if you're doing the two dose after your second dose. Yeah, two weeks after your second dose or two weeks

after your single dose for like the Johnson and Johnson one. Is that, oh, okay, I was going to ask what the differences were in that. I guess that's it. So when they ask you how long you've been vaccinated before you go to Mars, you say two weeks. Two weeks. And then they say, is this your luggage? And then you say two weeks.

And then your face splits apart and you're Arnold in there. That's how that works out. And that's how you know that they've been vaccinated. Yeah, that's the sign. Just go and then everyone's Michael Ironside's pissed at you. I get it. Well, this is good news, I think, overall, that we're just getting to a place where now we have a tweak to the guidelines. It's like, okay.

And overall, I mean, what do you make of the overall relative? nice drop in cases, hospitalizations. That stuff is going down overall. Oh yeah. If you go in like Google COVID-9 cases, COVID-19 cases, then you're going to see, we're definitely seeing a sharp decline. And that is presumably because of the vaccines that have been going out and getting to people. That was my question. Is that a direct effect of that and that building of some some sort of early not hurt immunity, but, you know, enough of the population getting it, or do you think that that's, there's probably more factors involved, not just that? Certainly there's more factors involved.

Some people are saying it's definitely has to do with the vaccine, but some people are also saying that it's combined with the fact that we have, not to get too political, I guess, but it's just the fact that we have better messaging from the top now. And the CDC is able to get better messaging about the guidelines. out and stuff like that. But that is very, I'm glad you brought that up because this is the reason why we still have to practice the guidelines, the way that they need to be done, except in these small cases where all the people involved have been vaccinated is because we're very

likely to see another surge probably this month. Because for many reasons, not the least of which is that a lot of, States are easing their their mandates. But also because the new variants that have been popping up are probably going to start taking hold this month. They were predicted to, and the projections are that, like, that UK variant is about to hit 50% of the known cases this month. Oh, that's a lot. Wow. Yeah, exactly.

And in Europe, once it hit 50% of cases, that's when they saw. a new surge hit in Europe. So that's why they're predicting that that's going to happen to hear. And just as of a few days ago or a week or so ago, they had seen that it was between 30 and 40 percent of COVID cases were this new UK variant in the U.S. Yeah. Well, I'm all for just positive momentum regardless of where it's coming from. And I agree with you on the messaging.

Like, I don't even know that it's that political to say when the message is relatively unified, meaning what I'm being told in some press conferences versus what the CDC is putting out digitally in print or people at the top of that are saying something different than the people in the middle of that or whatever. When that's less voices going in five different directions, I don't know who needs to hear this,

but that's just true of everything. Like, now it's like, oh, okay, I get it. I don't have to wonder or second guess or wait and say, wait, didn't they just say, this one now, today they're saying that, well, they're still saying this, but we don't have to do that anymore, at least not at that level. And that's, that's been, I have to, I have to think that has some macro effect. At least in our states, Scott, yes. I have to think it has. The top down is very different in Texas and South Carolina and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway,

I, uh, positive, positive movement. I'm excited about the shot. Somebody, like, At the end of the tunnel. Somebody wrote in and said, here's what you should do. You should exercise right before you get the shot. Then you get the shot in whatever arm you decide. And then you exercise right after you get your second shot. We're talking about the second shot because that's the one that usually knock you out. And according to this guy, by doing that, by getting his metabolism rolling real hard, top and bottom,

that could just be his experience. But he had like no weird symptoms. He just went, he just cruised right through it. So I'm going to actually try that. I'm going to be like. Give it a shot. It can't hurt, right? Can't hurt.

Exactly. Yeah. I was told just to exercise the one arm that I'm getting the shot in. So I've got a whole day plan. I don't want to know what, though. I really don't. I don't want to know what that regimen is. So don't tell me.

If I could do one of the voices from Big Mouth, I would do it right now. You sure would. All right. Bobby, this is good news. Oh, go ahead. Sorry. I just wanted to, we were just talking about how don't change, you know, unless everybody's vaccinated, don't change your behavior.

There is one little surprising piece of news about the guidelines that might make people feel a little bit better, which is not only can you get together with other fully vaccinated people, like if you're fully vaccinated, everyone in your house is fully vaccinated, and the other people you're getting together with are fully vaccinated. But they have said that in a gathering, you can mix in. It's a funny way to think about it. It's like math or blocks or something like that. You can mix in one unvaccinated household into your, into their group.

Okay. All right. Like, that's a weird. It's a weird way of thinking about it. It's a little weird, just one. But it makes a kind of sense if you think, if you really think about it, you know? Yeah. Right.

And it's because what are they going to do give it to themselves? Yeah. Right. Exactly. If they've got it, they've already got it. And they're not going to give it to you. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. Yeah, my daughter lives here. And so my first thing, when we were talking about all this is, you know, we're saying, oh, wouldn't Vegas be great or wouldn't this be great? And we should just go up to Wyoming or we're talking about all this just sort of like, you know, we can actually do a few things. And then I look over a quarter of my at Carter is sitting there just looking at me. I'm like, yeah, I'm still here.

I don't, they're not giving me one. I'm 23. I'm not on anyone's list to get it early. Oh, right. Yeah. So you go to Vegas. Woo, we're having a great time. Oh, yeah.

We're not going to get it ourselves. we come back home and Carter, don't come out of your room for two weeks. We'll see you in. Exactly. Anyway. It's looking good, though. Everybody's saying that, I mean,

the current administration is saying that they're really thinking by May, it should be opened up to ever, or by April, I think, that it should be opened up to everyone in that by May or June, if anybody who wants to get the vaccine should be able to get it. Yeah. So that's. And they're saying what 70%?

I think we talked about this last week or week before, but 70% is their kind of herd immunity target? It's like the, what do you call that, the threshold? Yeah, I think it's starting to shake. Early predictions were that it was about two-thirds, so it's looking about the same. Okay, yeah. So that's good.

And then those, you know, the, however many people are like, I ain't taking no vaccine, that's got chips and it going to attract me, whoever those are. Ah, just do your thing. A pupate of the leftists. That's right. You'll be a pupid of the leftist, and you can just be over there in the.

corner being a pupit. All right. Good luck to you. All right. That's awesome. So you're sitting here thinking to yourselves, man, Bobby's got cool stuff to say about science. Well, he does and he has a podcast about it. Bobby, why don't you tell people about it and where they can get it? The podcast is called All Around Science. And we haven't talked much about COVID lately, but this episode that's going to be coming out on Monday, we're talking about some, we're talking about the COVID variants, some research that's come out about those. Also a weird effect that we've seen with traffic fatalities during the pandemic. Weird.

Yeah, so you should listen to that. I do think people drive bad right now. God, they do. I swear it's not just me. It can't be, right? Like, I'm noticing it. It's weird. You've noticed it too, Brian, because it's bad right now.

Yeah, you go out on the road and there are people who are driving like the roads are still as empty as they were in September of last year. Yeah, it's weird. I don't like it. 9,500 miles an hour. We had to do a curbside pick. up at office max not for tacos ha ha everybody uh we had to get some printing stuff

done and so to go grab all these prints you do the roadside they're very nice about it and uh four times on the way there we had near fender benders and at least twice on the way home and it's not but four minutes from the house it's like come on what's going on with everybody it's

so stupid. COVID brain COVID brain sucks all right uh go check that out bobby Frankenberger always good to see it and uh we wish you nothing but a speedy access your own shot soon. Thanks. Bye now.

Thanks. I like how he said thanks. That was pretty great. All right. What time we got? Oh, we got time. Finally, Get Hold has its perks.

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Today, we're looking back, you know, usually we look back at what was on the music charts on this day. in milestone years ago, 40 years ago, 50 years ago, whatever. But sometimes that doesn't take into account bands that never made it onto the Billboard charts. So we're going all the way back to 1971 to look at bands that formed that year. Bands like Big Star, the Charlie Daniels band, the Eagles, the motels, roxy music, Steely Dan, Split Ends. These are all bands that formed in 1971, some of which had chart success, some of which

didn't. So we're going to look at who, what bands were born in 1971, 50 years ago. That'll be today. 1 p.m. Mountain Time, uh, Twitch.TV or I think coverville.tv still works. Coverville.com. Oh, very nice. I forgot. You had that. You do have that.

I forgot I had that too, but I think that's still. I also have a frog. That's what I do with frogpants.comptu. It's, yeah, exactly. I should check it once in a while, right? You should always check that. I'm checking it right now and yes indeed at redirects to Twitch.tv slash coverville.

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That's my least favorite place to eat. I really don't like Panda Express. Really? I kind of like the Pan. We used to have one really close here that's now illegal a burger, but it's now illegal to go there,

but yeah. It's now illegal to go there. But no, it's a, here it's actually pretty good, or at least the one by us was pretty good. We might just have a crappy franchise set up here or something. Because they're just, every time I eat there, I feel gross. But anyway, Panda Express was sued now. They've gotten sued.

By pandas. By pandas. They're just sick of that. They're like, quit using our likeness. We're pandas, damn it. Now, it's an former employee, not a panda, for sexual battery and harassment after horrific mandatory self-improvement seminar they had to go to. Oh, my God.

Okay, this sounds like a horrible seminar. Yeah, sounds rough. Panda Restaurant Incorporated, or Group Incorporated, the operator of the national chain of Panda Express restaurants. Excuse me. It was sued by Jennifer Sparganfor. Spargyfior.

Spargetfor for sexual battery, sexual harassment, wrongful termination, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. According to the lawsuit filed in Los Angeles, employment trial officers, who cares about that, followed. uh or sorry followers who required attendance to a quote self-improvement quote unquote seminar um operated jointly with a live seminars and coaching academy to which mrs spurger bagger before

and other panda express employees were funneled as a prerequisite for their further promotion within panda express so it was like one of those things you want to go to this if you want to progress in this business if you want to get far in the panda express flow chart or uh org chart you got to attend this thing. So here's the bummer. The lawsuit alleges that the four-day a live seminar's course, sponsored and endorsed by Panda Express, was a prerequisite to promotion, blah, blah, blah. They were told that, okay, it's supposed to be self-improvement, team building. But she says it was full of an atmosphere of fear, intimidation,

and they had to engage in cult-like rituals. Oh, no. Okay. They were disguised as self-improvement and team building, including coerced skin-to-skin contact while the seminar participants were nearly naked. What? Yeah. I know.

So I got this story. It's perfect for us. Not just because they're naked, but you know what I mean. Let's see here. According to the lawsuit, the attendees were prohibited from using their cell phones. There was no clock in the room, and the doors in the windows were all covered with black cloth. It's just coming soon to a Netflix six-part series near you, the Panda Express cult seminar. Grunge in the chat is right.

It sounds just like nexium, which I watched. that Thou documentary at HBO. Yeah. Woof. Woof. That stuff, dude. It's, you should watch that dog. Why were people nearly naked, though?

Because it's all weird. The stuff they do. Like what? I want more details as far as like, how do they tell these people, okay, welcome to day one of the Panda Express seminar. You'll find a little bowl of orange chicken in front of you. Go ahead and enjoy some of that. By the way, please take off, strip down to your skivies and pay no attention to the fact

We've covered the windows indoors with black clock. Yeah, and there's no clocks in here, and your phone's been confiscated. It says here, the atmosphere resembled less of self-improvement seminar and a site for off-the-book's interrogation of terrorist suspects. The sensory isolation and intimidation was reinforced by constant yelling and verbal abuse by seminar staff. It said it created an atmosphere of fear in the room and the Panda Express adopted, ratified, and endorsed the offending conduct, and authorized it as being its own policy. she says in the lawsuit. She was forced to leave the company after refusing to attend the seminars rather than continue paying such a price for the promotion.

In other words, she was like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm just going to work. I don't care about promotion. I'm just not going to do it. Did she still keep her job at Panda Express? I'm guessing not. No, she's out. She's gone.

Yeah. She was forced out. I don't think it's a matter of I don't want to be promoted. I think it's a matter of I don't want to even be. Yeah, I don't want to be here. freaking this sucks like okay so i'll go i'll go work at cocaro if i need the uh this stuff is really like there is a there is a part of the self-improvement slash group activity world out there that is dark and weird like i'm not saying that the actual company or these things are meant

to be cult like but they end up sort of being that way they end up being these power exchanges that are just freaking effed up so if i were panda express I would pay that girl off and get the hell out of that business and stop doing that. You just need to shovel up the orange chicken. That's it's all you got to do. Right, right. What do you need this for? Promotion?

Excellent. Now you know, now you've learned how to teach somebody to shovel up the orange chicken. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Here you go. Here's the details on when somebody requests a half and half,

you give them half chalmay noodles and half fried rice. Congratulations. You've been promoted. It's promoted. Exactly. Seminar over, I guess we don't need to hang you upside down naked by your ankles and blast nickel back at you. Yeah. It's kind of what it is. So, yeah, I think it sucks. I'll take the Guantanamo chicken, please. Thank you very much. Guantanamo chicken. What does that chicken look like? Hold on.

Does it wear a little jumpsuit and is, it's secret? That's right. It's orange jumpsuit chicken is what it is. Orange jumpsuit chicken. It's in a cage, probably. It's off the book. so you don't really know what's in it. You need to see the Mauritania when it becomes available for streaming. It's so good. Moritanian? The Mauritania.

It talks about a guy from Mauritania who is put into Guantanamo Bay because it's based on a true story. This is a Jodi Foster directed deal. Oh, interesting. He's put into Guantanamo Bay because he's suspected of having something to do with 9-11 without any any real evidence there was a lot of that very low threshold for arrest and retainment of people which is pretty sucky it's a bad part of our history I think so such a such a powerful and intense movie it was really good though it was a but not documentary it was like a drama yeah I would watch that and this and this is new is it new brand new

oh all right I'm in they're looking at one the best drama award No Francis McDorman Pooping in a Bucket won the best drama award at the Golden Globes This was I think

Best Director or something for Jody Foster See I remember Killian Murphy's we wiener But you seem to be fixated You know once you watch Francis McDorman poop in a bucket That's the part of the movie

You're never going to forget I almost started that the other night And then I thought I don't have like two and a half hours to burn. I got to go to sleep. Yeah, then you decided to watch 28 weeks later. Great, great alternative. That's only an hour and a half. So it was a time

thing for me. But it wasn't a good alternative because it hyped me up and then I was all like stressed the rest of the night. I'll bet if you're kind of tired and you watch Nomadland, you'll fall asleep. It's a very slow-paced movie, very slice of life

even though it's fictional. It feels a lot of, it features a lot of people who are really living that life as secondary cast members. But it's slower pace. That'll help you sleep if you have an hard time sleeping. Are there any like the old-timey hobo types in that movie, like on trains and stuff? Kind of, but not on trains, but now in Deluxe Winnebago's. Ah, gotcha.

Their stick with a bandana tight around the end is now a double-eyed with a I'll pull along behind it. I do want to see it. I like that Francis McDormon, don't you know? She's great. She's great. All right, here's a fun one. If you were this lucky person, I think we mentioned it yesterday, but yard sale bowl, a bowl at a yard sale.

Revealed to be a rare Chinese artifact worth up to $500,000 U.S. Wow. Yeah. Imagine having this in your yard. Do you take it to Antiques Road Show? Please tell me you took it to Antiques Road Show. You didn't, in fact. Here's what happened.

a small porcelain bowl sold at the garage sale for 35 bucks. That was their asking price. That's actually surprising that anything sells for 35 bucks at a garage. Yeah, exactly. That's a lot. Someone will try to talk you down. Will you take 10 for it? Anyway, it turned out to be this rare 15th century Chinese artifact worth up to a half a million dollars.

An unidentified Connecticut man. Connecticut, I know how to say it. I'm just playing. Connecticut. bought the bull from Yards sell near New Haven last year and later emailed photos to Sotheby's asking for an evaluation. That's basically like that show that you were talking about. Yeah. According to the Associated Press appraisers determined its dates back to the Ming Dynasty, so literally a Ming Vaz.

It's the old stereotype of the Ming thing. Early 1400s estimated worth about 500 gram. The bowl, which they said was exceptional and rare, will be available to the highest bidder as part of the firm's important Chinese art auction. important Chinese art auction. That's hilarious. So I think we're finding another word that you pronounce differently than I do. Oh, what is it? Because it sounds like you're saying a bull.

A bowl. A bowl. A bowl. What would you say? A bowl. A bowl. A bowl. A bowl. But it's not like you were saying a bull. A bull. Put that in the bowl. Are you eating some cereal? Put that in the bowl. Let's see. Somebody put milk in the bowl. How did that come out? Still, yeah, a little closer to bowl. Yeah, I feel like I, you're right.

I feel like I say it a little bit off. Yeah. Or different. Why the only one? Did anybody else hear that, or is it just me? A bull. A bull. So like B-U-L-L, bull.

Was what we're, bull? Some people are saying they hear it. Zoe says sounds the same to me. All right, never mind. Maybe. Well, to Zoe, all our American crap probably sounds terrible, right? That's true. Because we're just, we don't do the King's English anymore.

Anyway, so that guy's rich, well done. Yeah, nice find. I mean, he had to have known what he was buying when he bought it if he went home and emailed photos to Saw the Bees immediately, right? Oh, yeah, you'd think so, right? Yeah, exactly. Unless you find some sort of little inscription on the bottom saying, designed by Ming back in...

Signed Ming. I love the idea to have a little Ming signature on the side of it. That'd be great. proudly crafted by Ming. Ming did it. All right. Finally, here in the news, we want to salute Major Dick Bong for obvious reasons. Names can be tough in the military, especially since it's the only organization where your last name suddenly becomes your first.

Right. So you're like, Lieutenant, Ibit, Brian, or however they do it. I don't know how they do it. I didn't know they stack shit that high. Exactly. So unconventional spelling of your last name. Be prepared for some staff, non-commissioned officer. It thinks he's so funny with a half-ass wisecrack about your parents.

Probably never graduate-madate. Why does that say it that way? Why is this all in here? Yeah, why is this even in here? Okay. There's this guy. His name is Major Richard, also known as Dick Bong. Richard Bong.

He is now known as Mr. Dick Bong. And I just wanted to salute this guy. I just wanted to say, hey, your name's Dick Bong. good job well thank you thanks for your service but again this feels like uh there are people with funny names all over the damn place why does this guy get an article i don't know well the site is task and purpose salute you wendy's employee uh hugh janeus thank you for filling my frosty with chocolate uh deliciousness hugh janeus i think hugh janeus might be my favorite of those i'm glad you glad you brought that up oh yeah there

here it is, Dick Bong, Home of the Airborne Special Operations Forces. Okay, when was that? Listen, hey, thanks again for, I mean, he deserves an article for his service, not because his name is. Dick Bong. This website does actual tributes to military personnel, and they've decided to have just a little jockey post because the guy's name is Dick Bong. Really? Yeah.

So the rest of the articles on this site are like, yeah. task and purpose it's like this like serious like uh military ish you know news and things china's giving the u.s navy a deal on trading plane things the afghanistan withdrawal agreement may not as be as firm as we thought like this kind of stuff and then they have these like tributes and they have this guy like i don't know they're just like sitting around going you know what we need we need to make fun of dick bong get in he isn't even like like a recent He was born in 1920, served in 1941 in the Army Air Corps. Oh, my God.

I know. It's really weird. Somebody, they just hired a 14-year-old to work at task and purpose.com. He did you my first article. Hey, you guys, check it out. You're fired. Okay. Anyway.

Bedbugs have infested in a attack submarine. Here's what the Navy is doing about it. Uh-oh. Jerry Busey and Drag, and they're going to have him parade around. until all the bed bugs are gone. Well, we know it works. So get them in there. All right, we're going to take a break.

When we come back, my sister Wendy will join us, and we will help somebody with a problem. We got an email this week. So we're going to check that out. Sweet. And after that, a mashup and a cool bonus thing in our post show. We'll tell you all about that later. But some of you're going to want to stick around in the chat room,

and some of you may not because you don't want to be spoiled. We'll let you know why. But that's all coming up after this song. Brian, what is it? Well, for today's indie in the middle, we're either going to go to Australia, France, or Spain. Ah, what the heck? Let's go to all three.

This is a band that is taking advantage of modern technology to play together. They are musicians who live in Australia, France, and Spain. Four piece, Fred, Chris, Frank, and he's genio on drums and vocals.

All right. I guess that he might be Spain. I don't know. It might be. Anyway, they've all gotten together and performed as the band Nova Waves. And for a band that doesn't perform in the same place, they sound amazing. They're doing such a great job of putting this stuff together. Really good stuff. The album is called Going the Distance.

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We were gone once Thursday and then Wendy had stuff last week. And yeah, it's been weird. Has it been three weeks since we've seen you? Honestly, it feels like five minutes. I know. It's weird. I don't like it. Well, you weren't able to join us last week because he had a thing.

And I think the previous Thursday, we didn't do a show for some reason. Yeah, I was gone for something. I don't remember what I had. Did I get, oh, I had a doctor's appointment and it got all screwed up that day. Pushed the whole day out. Yeah, that's what it was. Sweet. Yeah, it's great.

They ended up, give me some, by the way, they've got me on some medication that my doctor wants me on for 30 days. And it's just a kind of a general heart-healthy, freaking thing she's trying to do. I won't hippo violate myself here with what it is. But anyway, she put me on it and she says, now, so, you know, like 5% or less of people on this medication get like a really weird raspy dry cough from it. It's not dangerous or bad. It just comes out of nowhere, is connected to no cold or allergies or anything. You just have a cough, a dry cough, and it sucks. And it'll be there for the 30 days if you have it.

But I don't think so. Because, again, less than 5%, she says. It's you. Totally. I'm in the 5%. Gosh, dang it. You're in COVID. So you just seem like a sick.

Oh, dude. That's funny. Right. And I've got my appointment on the 19th for my first jab. I'm going to go in there and be suppressing a cough while I do it. So they, I'm going to have to fart to cover. my cough. That's what's going to have to happen. That's a good idea. Yeah. Anyway,

how's it going to Minnesota? You guys, getting signed up or what's your plan there? What are you doing there? Yeah, I mean, slowly, but surely, I'm at the bottom. So it will not be I will be maybe the last. Yeah, you're too healthy or too young, I guess. You're six years younger than me. I'm too healthy and too middle of

the road and I work from home easily, which is what I would do anyway. So I'm not in a good spot. Well, they're doing. It's fine. Everyone get yours. I'm happy to wait. She'll wait, but they really ramped up speed here in Utah. We don't know why. We don't know what happened, but something happened.

And now everybody's getting them. So it's like everybody will be done, not done, but like by April, they're expecting everyone to get it, like just to have it. So I don't know, crazy. Probably would have had it sooner given other circumstances. But nonetheless, happy to be getting it and getting towards some sort of positivity. Speaking of which, often when Wendy's here, we talk about topics that are positive. Sometimes, you know, there are things people are struggling with.

We asked for more emails. We got one and I'm going to read this thing. It's kind of a beast. It's a big one, all right? So everyone just sit back and enjoy. We're going to call this person, David, not his real name. He says, hi, Scott, Brian, and Wendy. I noticed that there are no Therapy Thursday episodes in the last two weeks.

See, been three weeks. Yeah. I didn't pay attention to the reason, but thought maybe you needed some questions. I don't know if any of this is of interest of the show or not. But how do I reconcile the logic part of my. brain to my emotional part of my brain. This has been something that I have not been able to manage for about five years now. I quote, know in my head, unquote, the things aren't bad for me, but it doesn't feel like they are. It's hard to explain, but the just of it is this. My brain knows

better, but my emotions are the 80-pound gorilla in the room that the brain can't do anything about but try and stay out of its way. Boy, do I relate to this. In a nutshell, what has led me to this place, I don't know my value, my worth, or my salt. I'm not sure what your salt is, but we'll get to that. I think I'm good, sorry, I think I am good and do a good job, but I don't know it and I don't see it manifested. For example, I took classes at the junior college to try and get an associate's degree in programming, but programming too crushed me to dust. The class programming do. I think I am smart, but I doubt it due to my grade.

If I was smart, I wouldn't have failed. It just reinforces the idea and the thought that I am dumb, and there was a reason I flunked out twice in college and it took nine years to graduate. So let's forget about, sorry, so let's forget about am I smart or dumb and look at my children. One of them is on his own. One is in college and one is in high school. I have a shared custody for a, or had shared custody for a while, only had my high schooler on days off due to work. work, me working a second shift and getting off work sometime between 1130 and 2 a.m. I don't know what value I bring to my kids.

It was this point there. I can't support to help them financially. I barely cover my own expenses. I know there is more to being a parent than money for your children, but when the X can get help with a big ticket thing and I can't seem to my options then turn, I can't, and I can't, then I am, then I'm not an option they turn. to. There we go. Boy, that was a hard one to get out, and I don't know why. I'm not much help for their schoolwork and their history. They are all STEM students. I don't know what that is.

Wendy, what is that? What's a STEM student? Science technology. It's the, the, um, electronic murder bot. No, no, it's a science technology. Sorry, I thought I was unmuted. I'm like, I just said it, Brian. You were, you were. My bad. Science technology, engineering, and math. Oh, okay, okay. All right. But isn't that when everybody. STEAM school, a steam is ST-E-A-M and that adds art. Oh, they should do that. They should have it in there. Yeah.

So isn't that all schools, though? Because we're always doing, everyone does science. No, there's specific sort of ways to get that designation because you have to provide certain emphasis on those stuff. Yeah. Okay, I got you. All right. That makes sense. Anyway, I don't know what I offer.

Being a fun parent doesn't feel right with me. My dad did very well for himself and his family and all my siblings have successful careers. I am not. It doesn't mean that I can't be successful, but when you are over 50, there are only so many years left. Don't we know I should not judge myself by their successes, but it's hard not seeing myself as a failure. My parents say they are proud of who I am, who I didn't keep, or sorry, who am, didn't keep me from having to live in a roach infested apartment where my kids had to sleep every other week. I know it's about how you write your story in your head, but my problem is, I don't believe the positive story. I don't see the proof of it. I know it's there,

but the 800-pound gorilla of emotion is kicking reasons ass all over the mat. With help, I am not dwelling on these negative spaces all the time, but I think it's just me avoiding it, so I don't have to go down that negative road. I've been told I have ADD. I would like to, I wonder who told them that. We should find that out. I would like to believe it's true, but so far with medication, I have felt no change. So instead of ADD, maybe I'm just a lazy slacker who can't hold together because I am weak. I just don't know how to make the leap of faith when I see the end results are saying otherwise. I hope this hasn't been too rambling and makes sense.

It did all right until Scott screwed up reading it. If it doesn't make a topic, that's okay. Thanks for taking the time to read this so far. Sincerely, a lurker in the chat room, we'll call him Dave. Okay. So I relate to a lot of this feeling, this sense of. uh everyone's telling this feeling of like everyone tells you a story that oh you did great you did good um even small stuff like uh the the q and a hosted a couple of weeks ago

afterwards everyone went oh good job scott well done nice work you did it you did it but in my head i'm going yeah you're just all like my parents when i drew something cool in school you're going to tell me it's great but that's because you're my parents or you're my friends or my whatever like i didn't really do good you just are all saying i did I do this all the time, all the time. So I totally feel where he's coming from. Obviously, this is compounded by custody issues, kids issues, ex-wife issues, you know, all of that, the success of siblings, that sort of thing.

So it's a little more complicated, probably a lot more complicated. But where do you want to start with this one and where do you want to go? You're muted. You're muted again. No. No, you were pausing. Are you saying that we as human being should pause more? Just take a second and not.

Are you guys uncomfortable with silence? Yes, I am all the time. Are you kidding me? Oh my gosh. My number one. Why do you think I've talked all day? Hey, this isn't about us, Wendy. Sorry, sorry to make it about you, guys.

Really quick, what do you think it means about someone when they are uncomfortable with silence? I think it means that they have a radio show or a podcast where they need to keep things moving. That's what I think. Yeah, it's hard to say. Hey, I learned a Midwestern phrase. It's keep her moving. So just say that.

Keep her moving. Keep her moving? Get at it. Get at it. Okay. Hey there. I'm working on my accent. It's getting good.

Okay. So let's start with this, that all of these things compounding in somebody's life would lead to some questions about your value and then ultimately like your feeling of confidence, right? so he he gives a couple of examples of like he failed a class that is going to you know that's like a direct one to one of like oh i couldn't do this thing i was supposed to do you know um but he did bring up something and i want to we have lots of angles here but one i want to start with here is this um idea of school and smart and failure and all sorts of things there right So, Scott, for example, you have, you felt good. No, you didn't feel good necessarily about the job you did. You were responding to people's feedback.

Right, right. Because while I was in it, this was true of the stage one in 2018. It was true. It's almost true of anything. Like an entire nerdtacular will go by without a hitch. It'll be perfect. I'll point at one specifically, 2015's Nurtacular, the pinnacle of the event. It was amazing.

We had such a great time. Great guests. Amazing people. You were there. Just a really great event. And I only weighed 210 pounds, which I really enjoyed that back then. So it's just a really tight event. And at the end of it, Kim will tell you this in the car ride home because now suddenly it's down to me and her and Nick and Carter in the backseat.

So we're just, we went from this big giant group to down to just the tiny little family unit, right? That something about that change makes me. me all wistful and thinking about stuff like this. And I turned to Kim and I said, do you think that went okay? Do you think that was all right? She goes, was what all right? I go, you know, the whole thing. Like all of it. Was it all right? Did everyone have fun? Did everyone have a good time? She's like, I hate when you do this. Like, I know. I can't help it. I need to know. Was it any good? And she goes, of course it was good. It was amazing. Everyone had a great time. But are you sure? I do this all the time. And I do it less now than I used to. I try to

anyway because I recognize it in myself and it's I don't think it gets me anywhere but I don't know why I need that reinforcement I don't know I need that that feeling of confirmation that it went well because I do have my own eyes and I'm pretty good at seeing if it went okay I think I don't know I would assume it's a vulnerability right like in the middle of it you're on you're on adrenaline and getting it done right and when it gets quiet and there's time to reflect there's a vulnerability there of like was that good did I you know I don't think there's anything too weird about that it also sort of just shows that maybe you have some humility of like you know I guess like the opposite arrogance would just be like I nailed it I'm amazing I killed it yeah exactly and and not

to say you can't feel some of that at all but like to never wonder if people had a good time I mean, that's some weird levels of confidence that, I don't know, sound not great in some ways, right? I never thought of it that way. So I just think it's a spectrum maybe a little bit. Never thought of it that way before. That's a weird, that's funny all this time later. I never thought of it as it would be, it's better than if I would have walked out of. They're going, bingo.

You're welcome. Nailed it. Yeah. See you next. Mike drops. See you. I don't want to do that. I don't want to be that guy.

Nobody wants to be that guy. Nobody wants you to be that guy. But there is an extreme in any direction that is not good, right? The middle is maybe a little better. But there should be some self-doubt or some, you know, and a lot of people hearing this might go, oh, yeah, yeah. I have this with imposter syndrome where I am getting the accolades. People are telling me I'm doing a good job, but I don't believe them. That's also a, on the flip side, it's the same thing of just feeling some vulnerability of if they really knew me.

They really knew all about me. They would know that I'm actually not capable of this, even though clearly they are capable. So this gets down to this question. And we'll get back to the emailer, of course, but, you know, what happened to all of us? Like, what was the thing that happened while we were being raised? And so what's interesting generationally

is to sort of pay attention to, I guess, bigger strokes, the broader strokes of how people took the parenting style of the era they were raised in, but this guy's got kids in their 20s, right? So he's got to be 40s, 50s. Yeah, it's not like he said 50 or over 50. Over 50. So this idea being like, what was the parenting take on smart, not smart grades, success, failure, like how did that work, right?

And then there was, I'm going to make an assumption that it was a, that was not the era of, everybody gets a trophy that sort of happened what the i don't know what decade was that i felt like early 90s yeah it was like a 90s early 2000s yeah something like that yeah so not a lot of like uh that type of thing going on and then you get the everyone gets a trophy and then what are the ramifications of that and then you get the sort of a higher emphasis and this is maybe a little more modern um in recent years of just how does a kid actually feel about things and you know checking in with their feelings and make more room for feelings, et cetera. And then every family is individual, right?

However, they treated certain things. So if you think back to, you know, what was the message you got if you did well or didn't do well on a test? So everyone can do this. Think about your own family and think about the community you were raised in. How was it treated when somebody got an A and somebody got a D? you know, what was, what happened? How was it sort of socially significant, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And you can start to sort of piece in some puzzle pieces of like,

oh, there's where I was born with how I feel about my things, right? And so you take this guy who his confidence is really shaken. And there's a couple things like not doing well in school, you know, failing that particular class. And then the question is, am I dumb or not? That comes from what we would term a fixed mindset, and we're going to talk about what growth mindset is, but there's kind of these two mindsets. A fixed mindset is, you do good at math, you are smart. You do good at art. You're an artist, right? Like, it's very like categorically, you're good or bad at something based on this snapshot of you in a moment. And if you think about how dangerous that is for children, right? So wherever your brain development is,

is and your skill set lies at one moment is now the deciding factor for if you're good or bad. So that sort of moral labeling of good and bad with outcomes on, you know, whatever a teacher wanted you to do is kind of freaky if you really think about it, right? So Carol Dweck is a researcher and she's written books about this is called the growth mindset and the research on it is fantastic. They go in, they teach a group of kids who are failing math as seventh graders. and by the end of the year, they're all like kicking butt and math.

And the idea is this, that you are where you're at and there's room for growth and that there's no shame. I mean, all of the, you take out all the bits and pieces that sort of make this binary, you're good or bad,

you're smart or stupid out and put in, you can grow, you can change, you can make mistake. And she's done it in such a way that, You know, you can apply it into a classroom and completely change the trajectory of how kids feel about math, something they were literally failing to something they now identify as a part of them that they love, which is incredible.

And as an educator, that has to be like your ultimate goal, right? I don't think any educator at any point was like, you know what? I want to ruin kids for life by labeling them good or bad. But it does have a long-term effect. So this guy has lots of other things. We have a divorce. We have financial struggles. You've got co-parenting issues.

You've got like not being able to provide financially big things for kids. And, you know, some of that, it's like pushing on the same old button of maybe you're not good enough and you're not, you know. And that's a fixed mindset. A fixed mindset is you have this amount of money to provide for your children. That makes you a good dad, right? So we can make a list real quick. what's a good dad you guys tell me a good dad yeah using this binary fixed mindset uh listens listens focuses on his kids when he's with them i mean i'm i'm taking it from a

position of a dad who doesn't get custody of the kids the full time okay so listen the present when they're with him the kids are there so not all right hey thanks for coming over uh here poppy in front of the tv watch whatever you want i'm going to be thanks for coming over Thanks for coming over. Oh, I love it. I grew up in a split family, so that was, you know, I never experienced that, but I had friends who did who basically like, yeah, I get my dad on the weekends and I just basically watch TV at his house like I would at home. Oh, wow. Right.

So a good dad doesn't just let it. Present. Right. He can watch TV. Okay. It's present. Take an interest in whatever the kid's interested in, but not just that in supporting it. So if their kid likes baseball, then, you know, maybe going out to a game or just throwing a ball back and forth or whatever.

I mean, God, that's so tropey, right? The tossing a ball back and forth in the backyard. But still, it's showing that you're interested in what they're interested in as opposed to, oh, great, you like TV? Cool. I've got one right here and have fun. I've got a television here. I love it. I like Brian's a lot.

I think what's your checklist of you're either a good dad or you're not a good dad. So what's the good dad? Brian's is so good because it covers so much like that's such that's like such a huge percentage. That's why I got in first. Yeah. It's a good one. I mean, it really is so much of what parenting is like 90% of it feels like being there and actually listening and not, you know, not being concerned about your own stuff when you need to be helping your kids. but I think another one would be be emotionally penetrable.

Like not, how do I put this? Don't be afraid to tell your kids how you feel, yeah, or how you feel about them, telling them you love them frequently, showing affection, you know, having them know that you're not. not just this he leaves at eight and comes home at six pats me on the head and has dinner and then goes somewhere to read a paper like you just don't want to be that guy in their life so be yeah be somebody who's who can who doesn't hear you say you know how do I put this like don't show don't try and make the kids think that you're infallible right show them that you

right yeah that you fail as well at things and that you pull yourself back up yeah exactly that they're vulnerable to you already by default. You can be vulnerable to them a little bit emotionally to show them that you understand what it feels like for a girl to break up with you or you understand what it means when you've been bullied and you understand because you were bullied and this is how you feel and you know, like that kind of stuff. I realize that's kind of broad though. It's not a great answer to your question, Wendy, but...

Neither of you answered my question the right way. You answered my question. No, you answered my question the second. can question actually the right way, but I didn't ask that. I asked though, what is the fixed mindset form of a good dad? You guys answered the growth mindset. So good job. You jumped right ahead to the actual good daddy, which is great. Oh, so are you saying there's no such thing as the first one then? Is that what you're saying? No, there is. I provide for my children. I take them to Disneyland once a year because that's what a good dad does. Or I throw a ball with them in

the yard, but I am not emotionally connected to that. You know what I'm saying? It's a checklist that is based on, I don't know, who taught dads that these were the things they had to do. Yeah. But some of them run so deeply because of that's exactly how you were raised. That is the expectation of your community or the training you had within your own family. There's what a man does, right? So you've got some of that. Now, you guys, a new age. sensitive new age guys so you you you're ahead of your game yeah um but but truly so that sort of that fixed mindset so even to take a moment and really identify like where are my where where's the thinking i have inherited come from and you may not you think it's just you that's what we always

think well this is me i i think this but you've always been influenced by something right so getting a little bit more clear about what that is and this can be with work this can be with parenting this can be with lots of things like first getting a handle on what was I told made me good or bad because there are people who are killing it in every industry all over the planet who feel like garbage right so it is not about what you've accomplished or you're accomplishing and there's the biggest myth because if you are not accomplishing or you're struggling I mean it's just so easy to put yourself in the category of I'm failing so I've been thinking about this lately is like an interesting twist on the word failure. So when you exercise and you are

pushing your muscles to failure, you're triggering your body's response, the evolutionary response to build more muscle tissue and to strengthen your overall metabolism and survival. But it requires failure. Like it literally requires failure, which I kind of love because we are so scared of what that word means. But it's, again, based on our history of how that word has been handed down to us, right? So let's imagine a culture where you were trained to think of failure

as the greatest thing you can pull off. That means you've tried everything and you found that sweet spot where you can still either learn to grow or you've hit the end, whatever. Like, it's just a different word or a different framing. And then you plop that person into our culture.

They'd be like, what is going? on here. Yeah. Yeah. Be very different. Okay. So now switching to your parenting, your ideas were great. And those are more growth mindset parenting in one way, right? Which is your emotional connection with your kid.

Your support of your kid is really important. They feel you're present. Not only you're present, but you care about them, that you matter to them, all of those things, that that is an awesome foundation. So now I want you to add on top of it what other growth things are as a parent to do that they can send the message

that this kid shouldn't be baked and finished and have nothing else to accomplish after they've gotten their college degree or do you know what I mean? There tends to be, why aren't you a full adult functioning at my level sometimes when we talk to children and adolescents? Sure.

So any thoughts on that of parenting with a growth mindset what that might look like. oh man uh well for me first thing to jumps to my head is uh people other people are kind of okay this isn't what i'd say but i'm going to get around to it by trying to explain myself people are kind of full of crap okay and the quicker you realize that other adults who may look on the surface like they got it all going on uh are are as fallible as anyone else the better so that you can just focus on yourself and not worry what the Joneses are doing at all because sometimes the Joneses are really up to some garbage and they just don't they're just putting on a show no offense to

anyone with the name Jones there's a thick layer of poo underneath everybody's skin outside of yeah yeah and you think you've got you know you have to compare yourself or measure yourself up to those people but you know it's like that old story uh I do this a lot on the show and I apologize But when we were younger, dad had a major financial crash. Lost a business. We were forced to move, had to sell boats and motorhomes and all these luxury items. Wendy would have been, I don't know, you were probably nine, eight, ten, something like that. I don't remember where you were.

But anyway, when all that happened or went down, he had what I would describe as a family friend and a sort of neighbor sort of spiritual advisor type who sat him down and in that conversation said, you know, there must be something in your life that you're not doing right. Like you must be, you must be living wrong somehow. You must be fouling up in some way or else this wouldn't be happening to you. And it was somebody respected and liked and then suddenly he's being told this and he's just like, well, geez, that's really helpful. Thanks a lot.

I, you know, I try to do my best. And he was doing his best. It was a terrible thing to tell him. And it's easy to take a bunch of stock into somebody saying something like that to you, especially because that guy seemed like he had it all going on. He had a big house. He had all the money. He had the stuff.

His kids all seemed perfect. He had all these things. And then two years later or something like that, that guy had a financial crash of some sort. His business crumbled and it all fell apart. And that dude committed suicide. If he can put a gun in his mouth and fired it. And I remember that really stuck with me and bothered me to like the core. I still think about it sometimes today because why this isn't about me judging that guy like,

oh, now who's the guy? You know, like it's not that feeling. It's this feeling of he told dad that, but then he had it. He was way in way worse of a place with everything falling apart around him than dad ever was. Which illustrates perfectly the fixed mindset or the growth, right? Fixed is it's the end of the world. Yeah. Right.

If all your value in stock is in, I mean, it was formulaic. He was like, you do these things. You have good life. Like that is not real. It's never been real. It's just that we all love that crap because we want it to be easier. We want to know the secret to the sauce. Like when someone tells you like,

you just do these three things. You're like, cool, I'll do those three things. As long as they're really hard. And then we can all agree that this is going to work. You know, like we kind of want the formula. So that's fixed mindset, absolutely. And we've been trained to do this for a lot of, you know, the way the school system sort of functions,

the way culture has sort of gathered around in that this is good, this is bad. Whereas the growth mindset is there's sort of the phoenix can rise from the ashes at any point, right? Like there's always something, some, and I guess you can call it optimism, but it's just an openness that the formula you were applying may not actually be what is the recipe for happiness, but there is actually growth still available. So imagine we teach kids this much younger. So this guy was, I'm assuming, not taught the growth mindset because people still aren't teaching the growth mindset this many years later, but it's starting. and, you know, people are trying.

And so imagine if you, as a young child, you learn just differently about what you're capable of, not based on what your failures are, your weaknesses are, et cetera. So how this would look in real time right now would be a kid is drawing, making cool things, and someone says to you, oh, you're a good artist. So now I have a good artist that I have to live up to. So when I get to some art I want to make and it's not looking right and I don't feel good about it and I, you know, suddenly what comes to question is, am I good artists or not?

So some rando just told you we're good artists and now it's your self-identification. Now imagine if someone instead came up to that kid and said, wow, you work really hard at your art or you can see that you find joy doing your art. And then the kid's like, yep. And then now, now, now, keep finding joy in it. And he's, he can consider himself a success. So working hard and finding joy,

those two things are perpetual roads, right? And we should be careful with the working hard, because that also gets really tied up with fixed mindset stuff too, a little bit. You must be lazy. I know people right now are thinking, I call myself lazy. And that's because maybe there was a hard work,

fix mindset that was thrown at you. at some point too, right? When really, you're just freaking nap because you're exhausted, you know? So these like words internally, we don't, we weren't born with them. It's, it's kind of been handed to us and then what happens with our brain. And this goes back to his very core thing in his email. He said, he's got this logical part and an 80 pound gorilla emotional part, right? Yeah.

Uh, of his brain. And this is really common is that people will experience these two things as one being stronger than the other and one always winning. So the one that's the louder one or the one that is, and I'm going to frame this in a very specific way, the least understood part is the one that has the most power. Yeah. The logical part, guess why you understand it? Because it's logical. And because it's also been reinforced in so many ways. It's the shoulds. It's the, this is how we do it. It's, you know, all that stuff has been planted there for a long time. So it's got, you know, it's pretty sturdy, let's say that.

But emotional parts of us, and especially as I'm making guesses here with this guy, but as a young man growing up in America sometime in the 60s, 70s and 80s, his emotional palate was not appreciated, right? So it kind of maybe got stifled and not really sure what to do with it. But there was don't cries and you should. and this is what real men do, or whatever. So what ends up happening is that part, our emotional parts, just they are 80-pound gorillas because no one's taken the time

to work with that emotional part for that person to really understand their own emotions. And again, when we get back to this fixed or growth, it's that the fixed mindset about your emotional parts would be that it shouldn't be there, right? Right. Let's banish that. That's some sign of weakness or badness or rather than what it is. So the growth mindset, which is you're a complex, interesting human being. And thank goodness you have emotional parts. You're not a robot. But maybe this neglect of some of our emotional parts means they get bigger and louder to get our attention. And the more we reject them and the more that we wish they would go away, the bigger and bigger they get. I have a sense with this guy, Scott, you talk. about. I have no memory of any of that, of course, but is that, you know, dad sort of represented his greatest fear, right? And then he lived his greatest fear. And there was definitely a fixed mindset about that. And I think that can happen to us sometimes where we can sort of look around and maybe that's why we look at people who we think have it all together. And that helps us

sort of create the gauge to which we are failing. And that sounds weird like we would want to do that. But it's what we do, right? Why do we do that? What's the evolutionary imperative that makes us do that? It seems so counterproductive to humans thriving by doing that to ourselves. Why do we do that? I think there.

Why can't I just look at it and go, well, that guy's full of crap. He said the thing that I know isn't true because I already did the thing I did. So I'm moving on. Why can't we do that? To me, the only explanation is evolutionarily, which is to survive, you have to be part of a group that will protect you and give you food and keep you sheltered and keep you safe. And so at its core, so much of what we do sort of serves that end. And to me, looking around and gauging what other people are doing is the way to know I'm doing

something safe. Also, gauging how they think about you is another way. to stay safe, right? If you get rejected, you're now literally left in the cold and you're not going to make it. So that conforming. And so our brain has absolutely been built around surviving in groups. So we can hate it and we can wish we were like this or we can. But again, maybe if we worked with it instead of against it, it could be quite amazing. So my advice to this guy is get some help with this emotional part where you get to know it. And rather than push it away or wish it away, you are getting acquainted with it because

I'm going to tell you right now it's not going away. And the only reason it's maybe so loud is it needs to get your attention. Yeah. And so this thing we like to shelf when we're younger because we're busier or life goes along swimmingly or whatever, it always comes back out, right? And so to really focus on that. But if anyone is listening to this growth mindset, fix mindset thing, there's so much on the internet, there's great books to read, there's stuff, programs in school that they're doing, because the younger you can help a kid develop a growth mindset as opposed to a fixed mindset. I mean, it opens the world to them in such different ways that the, sort of the average person who's really fighting against this, I must be bad, or I'm a failure. I mean,

so much energy goes into fighting that. And so you work with them at the beginning. And you don't have to create that kind of didactic. You can still say, ooh, that guy's doing cool stuff and that's cool. I want to do that. So that's evolutionarily, that's probably still going to happen. Yeah. But I'm the worst and I'm broken and all of that kind of talk. That's a response to the fixed.

I'm either good or bad. I should or shouldn't. I, you know, it's a little too binary, binary thinking. So you just solved a problem I've had. This is so funny because. You're welcome. Well, it's funny. you hear what it is, it'll maybe make you smile. I don't know. But Carter and I have been working

for a while now on a joint project. We're writing a children's book. And she's illustrating and I'm writing. And we love our premise. We love our characters. We love what we're doing so far. But we ran into this wall of, we want this book to matter and be more than just, ooh, Scott can write a thing or, ooh, Carter's art is awesome. We want it to be meaningful, if that makes sense. We want it to be beyond just the surface and actually kind of hit people somehow and not change them, but, you know, make them think differently. And in particular, have kids think differently. And so I think you just gave me my missing piece, which was we need, we need this thing to wrap itself around this idea of a more moving target of learning and growth and not, or a growth mindset, like as you say, and not a fixed one. it's kind of abstract as to how I'm going to do this, but it is the missing piece.

Because I feel like even in creative output, we get stuck in, it has to be this way or it has to be that way. And that's binary thinking too. It's not emotional binary thinking, but it's procedural. You know what I'm saying? And the things that really blow people's minds or that really knock us on our feet or on our butts when we're impressed by something, oftentimes it's because they didn't adhere to the list and they broke outside of that list. That thing you had us watched, in and of itself is a good example of that. The thing stepped completely out of the norm and became something really unique and special on its own.

And I think that can be true of paintings of animation, of music, of whatever, by just breaking out of the binary one, two, three, and trying it differently, that's what we're trying to do with this book. And I hadn't ever thought of it that way. is in my head, I'm still living with these weird rules over my head of, well, here's how a children's book is structured. And these are the five story steps you always take because you're dealing with five-year-olds. But it doesn't have to be that way. And I realize this isn't about me or my book, but that's funny because I just haven't thought of it that way. So what I'm hearing, Wendy, is royalties. Yeah, that's what we're hearing. Is my name going to be in there? Yeah, it'll say special thanks, Wendy, no royalties. For solving the final

problem. Yeah. Please and thank you. Well, I think we've done good work here today and I hope this person feels better about it. I also really feel for him in this position he's in of like, all right, I'm like, you know, with the halfway point in my life, like literally, you know, we always make fun of midlife crisis. But there are some, there is some crisis to hitting a certain point and going, oh, crap, I haven't done all the things I thought I'd do by now or do I have enough time to do the all.

the things I thought I'd do or, you know, you do how, you hit those points in your life. And thankfully, we can, we can hit that point later and later because we live longer and longer now. But, you know, it used to be people would get that. You an entire episode on midlife crisis and change the name, please. We should. Let's do it. Let's do it.

The midlife opportunity. Yeah, midlife opportunity. It needs a better word, but I hate the word crisis. The golden years. Call the midlife crisis. Call the midlife crisis line. Yeah. Yeah.

Actually, if anyone has something, I'll, those lines, we can use as a jumping off point, but I have a soapbox I'd like to get on and talk about. Okay. Why not? You know what we'll do? Here's a little homework for at home. If anyone has an adjacent question that might fit well with that discussion, send it in,

and maybe we'll find a jumping off point, and we can actually do that next week. That would be cool. All right. It's not about age at all because the quarter life crisis is also very real. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can have crises all throughout your life. Yeah. And that is the point. Let's normalize that. Yeah. I'd love to talk about that. And if you were 15 years old in the 1800s, you'd be having your midlife crisis because you'd be dead in 10 or 15 years.

So be glad where you're at is what I'm trying to say. All right. Wendy, always great, good stuff. People check out real steps.org. In the meantime, if you want to learn about Wendy's cool program of both mental and physical health that she does with her partner, it's awesome. It makes it sound like you're living with a lady and you guys are partners. That's not what I meant. But anyway, my Real Steps partner. Yeah. Her RealSteps.org partner.

It's awesome stuff. And I don't know when your new signups are, but soon, right? May is going to be the next month. And I, there's so many. I know I keep saying this, but each time there's just new things coming up and this next round is going to have some really,

really fun things. And here's the thing about this. And this is something I didn't know that you guys have. And you never, I mean, it's not that you don't talk about it. it, but just like the community that has been created, I mean, I feel like it's just like this magic thing that happened. And I know it's just because people are awesome, but I didn't

know that it would happen like that. Anyway, they are amazing and so supportive and incredible with each other that I just have been off. So that's a good reason to join. Just so you get to know these amazing people and feel like you have a space online where we will rail against diets and we will get you to love yourself. It's amazing. It's just, it's a good, good place to be. That's great. The Tadpool proves that, uh, the internet is falsely accused of being nothing but a hive of scum and villainy. There are good people in here. Really good people. We're not the, we're not the hugest group in the world, but we're the, we're some of the best. Even, even with free hotel room who, uh, saw popped his little head out

of his, uh, hole in saw his shadow. Did Bob pop in today? Is he here today? He did. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, all right. What did he have to say? Did he have a... Is he saying we're talking too long again? He hasn't yet, surprisingly. But he did, when I was talking about my dad and growing up in a split household. He says, that explains a lot, B. Better or for worse, I don't know, but...

Drop that bomb and leave. Well done, Bob. We're going to call him bomb instead of Bob anymore because he just drops a little bom. All right. Anyway, well, I look forward to our discussion next week. It's Crisis. on Infinite Earths next week here on Therapy Thursday.

Wendy, have a fantastic week and we'll see you then. All right, bye. Bye now. Bye. It really did sound like a, not that this would be a problem, but my sister's married and has four kids.

She's not living with a partner somewhere. I just want to make that clear. Her husband's her partner. They sure are. I mean, that's, Tina's my partner. It's a different kind of partner. My opposite six life partner.

Sure. There you go. All right. That's it for that. Quick mashup. And then we're going to end. things. We have a little thing to tell you about here in a second, but let's play this mashup. This is called Like a Lollipop. Oh, boy.

Great. Great. After all that amazing therapy Thursday, we lay it, we lay this on you, whatever this is. So check it out. Enjoy. My own secret tat stash. Yeah, you keep that tat where can I trade this in for tits because I hear you can get tit for tat. I got lots of tat. I have a bag full of tat. Where can I cash it in for the other thing? Yeah, where do I get the tit? Ooh, this is extremely hard. Stick it in there and let's just, yeah, we'll just get a taste of it. Put it in there and I'll watch for it to pop.

Yeah, I'm putting in the other hole or anything like that. I close my eyes and did it. So take that. Yes. I've never had a Woody. Just a small one. Oh, well, small ones are better than big ones. I feel like I'm not going to quite go that deep.

Why not? Why would you not want that? Why would you not want that? Okay, I can't do it with anyone watching me. That's all I know, because it looks so stupid. Do you have to all look like dingleberries? Do you have to plank the cows? You have to plank the couch to really get the full effect.

Yeah, you have to lay down horizontally on this platform thing. It looks like a workout. Pop it into my mouth? About half of them. I can't do that. My brother, Matt, do it all day. He didn't care. The fact that they're coming and coming and coming and not stopping means you feel pressure of something that you're not able to keep up with.

Yes, yes. Feel them coming slowly. Very slowly. If we get more than two inches and it stays. Yeah, stuck it in there. I put it in with a tapered head. Better penetrates. I mean, I just put my finger down in there, and it looked like about two inches.

I can't ride it on the air because I can't situate a camera around, but I'll figure something out. Yeah, aim for the mouth, if you can. Aim for the mouth. Yeah, always aim for the mouth. Just the right amount of hole. Yep. I can barely tell, like, how thick it is. Yeah, I see it all the time, just poking its head out and going, hey, remember me?

It's taking me so long. I was just sitting there going, okay, where is it? Normally it's here. What's going on? Jam it. Jam it in your hole. Ah, they're in my face. His bush is spot on.

Oh, gosh. Why am I looking at that? So then I'll eat that thing like a lollipop, like some kind of five-year-old. So it's not just like to be going to take it all. No, I kind of just go at it. I work on it for, you know, five, ten minutes. But I realized I saw this. Every single one of those quotes were taken out of context, though.

Every single one of them, just because of how quickly they're edited together. By the way, that's a T-W-S, so that's what she said. some of those quotes are edited so tightly that you don't that you think they're from the same place they're so close together yeah and it's just the brilliance of jamie's editing but also um or the or the horror of janey's editing yeah exactly the horror the horror that's what brian done away pronoun pronoun pronoun pronounces horror is hara i dance the horror uh i think we've done all we can do now here's the deal yeah end of the show oh a reminder patreon dot com slash tms that's how you support

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My sister got the reference to Crisis on Infinite Earth's. No way. I could almost feel her sitting there. I heard that. I thought that's really funny. She's never read a comic book in her life. She might watch the CW. You don't know. I guarantee. Because they did have that crossover.

No, I don't think she had any. Oh, guess what I started reading last night? You'd be proud of me. The Dark Phoenix saga, I'm guessing. I know. I started reading something else you recommended forever ago, and I just never got around to it. And I'd never read it before,

but I started reading the late 90s, The Eternals. Oh, wow. And I'm really digging it. Like, no wonder that show didn't get, wasn't good it's hard that stuff's hard like how do you do it talking about wait wait wait the eternals or the inhumans i'm sorry in humans i say eternals okay i meant the inhumans yes you said eternals the movies coming out later this year yeah yeah yeah the the better be

um but the yes the inhumans yeah it's hard with the big dog and all that like it's hard yes lockjaw and crystal it's hard to convert that stuff but man has that comic good i didn't know it was j lee who did all the stuff in that run and i love his art and gosh dang dude it's so good yeah i got yeah where the show failed is that the very first thing they did to the inhumans is take away their powers and make them

humans and so it's like so dumb oh this is dumb it's like great all right but black bolt is such an interesting character in the comic just everything about it's a coaster too i'm really indiggin it i'm indigging it i'm indiguing it i'm indiguing it i'm indiguing it after that dark phoenix that's what's happening all right you go um so uh that's it okay so here's what we're going to do after the show today during the post show and this is just a warning to anybody who doesn't want to get any spoilers for america's next next top podcaster we're going to be talking to one of the contestants and this is for an upcoming episode uh where they get interviewed by us or they talk to us on the show so i'm just it's just a warning that if you don't want to hear that yet then don't listen to you a very good hint as to as to who might still be in the competition yeah

Yeah, it turns out it literally tells you who's still around and maybe possibly who isn't. So we're just warning you now that that's going to happen after the show today, okay? If you do stick around, then you'll want to, and you're okay with spoilers, then you'll want to go to tiny.cc slash A-N-T-P guest. Yeah. That's A-N-T-P, G-U-E-S-T, all lowercase. And you can rate this person's appearance on the show. will have some effect on their score for the next judging episode.

And if you all are cool, for those in the chat are willing to hang around, you can like directly vote like today. Like after you've heard this, you can go and leave your thoughts. But it won't. But again, once you click that link, there's a drop down.

If you look at that drop down, you'll see exactly who's still left in the competition. Yeah. Just know that. Yeah. So there you go. So be aware. Yeah.

Just so you're aware. And then we're more careful about this spoiler than most movies and things we talk about. We are. Because we're directly related to their enjoyment of the content. That's true. That's a good point. So, bottom line is, stick around if you want, don't if you don't. And it'll be up on the feed for patrons.

And then the rest of these interviews are all going to happen this Friday's PM edition of the show. That whole show is going to be this. Correct. Again, we're keeping it kind of patroned off for a couple of reasons. but mainly it's it's so that you guys can choose to or not to listen so anyway uh thank you all for that and we'll be doing that right after this let's get out of here though we need music and and this time i'll put it in the right order everyone at home don't worry i'm looking for a song uh yeah how about a song for um robinson who's celebrating his birthday today

hello brian and scott tom says i was invited to be on an episode of soundography which should record shortly about the band roxy music i'm really looking forward to it and unless i've missed it. I haven't heard Brian play a Roxy Music or Brian Ferry cover story or cover. So if you can, I would like to request a cover for my 54th trip around the sun. Happy 54th birthday, Tom

Robinson. Yeah. I had beer with Tom around I guess might have been the last Nurtacular second. No, it was 17? Yeah, it was like four years ago. So yeah, 2017 because Tristan went with us and Tristan tried his

new trick, which is when you're underage and they come to see what you want to order for a drink, you say, oh, what do you have on tap? And then as they start telling you, you say, oh, never mind, I'll just do a gin and tonic. Did it work? And it's a distraction technique. It worked perfectly at downtown Disney. But then Tristan and Tom and I went to this rock and roll bar in Anaheim, right by where BlissCon was.

And Tristan didn't realize You don't want to do this at a place Where they literally have a hundred taps going across the wall So when she comes over and says What do you have on? What would you like to drink? And he says, what do you have on tap? She just turns in gestures towards the wall

And then you've got to awkwardly say, I never mind, I'll just do a gin and tonic And then she looks at She looks at the guy who's kind of shaking his head And says, Can he have a gin and tonic? You're the guy shaking his head. That's amazing.

I love that story. Because he looked up from his game boy or whatever, too. I was like, come on. If you're going to try this, at least, at least commit to the bit, dude. He's in there with his switch or whatever and pretend and, you know, still live. We've got one foot in youth and one foot in adulthood. Exactly. Right.

And then he also says, and Scott, as I've requested yearly, please play a random sound clip from film sack, and we both try to guess where it's from. I love that. I do remember doing this last time. Okay. Yes. That's awesome. All right. Hold on. Let's do that very thing. Let's, uh, it's a fun thing. I know. I don't think, I don't think I've thought of this since we last did it. All right. Here we go. Uh, here we go. Uh, here we go. Uh, you know, there's some things in this work. Well, that's a commercial. Hold on. That doesn't work. Uh, okay, here we go. Okay. This is a random. That's true random. That is random. So it's just somebody's weird laugh. I'll give you a date.

Here's a date. This will help. September 16th, 2016 was when we... Oh, geez. That helps me not one bet. Let's hear that. Let's hear it again. All right.

One more time. Here we go. Okay. All right. I have a guess. I'm going to guess it's that that's Corey Heim. And I'm going to guess it's like dream a little dream or something. dumb thing that we watched.

One of the Corey Hame movies. Corey Hame. Oh, was it Hame or Hymme? I actually don't know. Corey Hymme, I thought it was. Corey Hame? Hame. I don't know, because I'm spoiled now by the band Hime, so I might be thinking.

Oh, I might be thinking of Valheim, the new video game. Maybe I should call it Val Heme. Okay, well, I'm going to say, I have no guess. I actually think yours is good, so let's find out. It is from, oh, it's a laugh from the longest yard. Oh, really? Oh, is that Adam Sandler? No, it's from... Oh, no, we didn't watch that one.

Yeah, we saw the Burt Reynolds one. We saw the Burt Reynolds one. Let's hear that again. Let's do one more time. I don't know who that was. It's definitely not Burt Reynolds, but... No, no, no. That would have been more... Or whatever. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what had been. The longest yard. All right, never... There you go. Happy 54th for that. That was a fun little contest we had there.

And also, I almost forgot to play this for him, but we have to do it as now as tradition. Happy birthday to you. There you go. Making it perfect for you. Yeah. It's another clip that just gets longer and longer, the more we hear it. All right. This is a band called Cicada that did this amazing cover of Roxy Music's same old scene from that great album, Flesh and Blood.

It's my favorite Roxy Music album. I'm going to say that spoiler alert for those of you listen to Soundography. It's my favorite Roxy Music album. Nice. Here is Cicada with a very cool, electronic-y, awesome version of same old scene very nice we'll see you guys later at cores on tonight by the way so if you want to watch that you can 5 p.m. Mountain time we'll be on with me and beau and john talking one loop and why that might be the greatest video game of all time among other things so come check it out

that's core tonight at frockpants dot TV at 5 p.m. Mountain that'll do it for us we'll see you guys on p.m. tomorrow. I'm going to be able to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be. One, one, one. Nothing lost forever. Of that I'm sure. Now you've paid an offer.

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