The Morning Stream - TMS 2086: Half Vaxxedn

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

COVID Shut Down Dicks. Is this the line for the vaccine or In-N-Out? My Sediments Exactly. Moderna Tastes Like Dolly Parton. Get a Proper Meat. Your Banana Split Construction Technique is WITHOUT HONOR! Who Punched What's-His-Name on 2020? No, the other Cheech. Three Stooges Pie. I'm Manually Turned On! Do You Want the Chicken Line or the Beef Line? Herdin' the Sheps. In Today's Game, You Both Get a BM. Bed Bath and Whatever. Making Things with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, COVID shut down dicks. Is this the line for the vaccine or for in and out? My sediments, exactly. Moderna tastes like Dolly Parton. Ew. Get a proper meat. Your banana split construction technique is without honor. Who punched what's his name on 2020?

No, the other cheech. Three Stooges pie. I'm manually turned on. Do you want the chicken line or the beef line? Heard and the ships. In today's game, you both get a BM. Bed Bath and whatever. Making things with Bill and more.

on this episode of The Morning Stream. We see a man, Noah, and a woman, Taylor. They are young professionals and professionally young. They hold hands and feet. They are coupled. Taylor, we have dated for long years. It is time I do a thing. Noah gets on a single knee.

He pulls out a box. Taylor smiles teeth. She thinks she will eat a wedding's cake soon. I propose. Propose we break up. Noah opens the box. Inside is his new girlfriend. She looks like Taylor.

but one day younger. He's all bastard. A great pair of nerd glasses in about an hour. This is the morning stream. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, March 22nd, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson.

He's Brian Ibbott. Yeah, okay. Sure. For today, I'll take that. I'll be that. I'll be that. Okay. Brian and I have been partaking in biological agents this weekend. That's right. We both got our shots, man. We got our first shots. We did. We are both half-vaccinated, I guess, is the way to think about it. Yeah, we're half. I think that is the way you do because I saw some numbers.

We don't do anything half-axed, Scott. No, no, no. It's full-axed. Anyway, yesterday there was some numbers put up that said that we are something in the range of 25% of the country is at half vaccination levels or something, which is pretty good. Wow. I'm sorry, 43%? No, it was like 25%. Oh, 25%? Where'd I hear 43?

I don't know. It's not even the answer to the universe life and everything. That's right. I was listening to you when I hear 43. I don't know. I blame, hey, Discord sometimes does some funny things. It's changing the numbers on us. We didn't even know it.

But anyway, so, yeah, that's good. And then there's some projections that say by July, we're looking at 90, which implies that all the 25% that are currently half vaccinated today will be fully vaccinated by next month, which then will start seeing numbers on full vaccination. And this is all good things. All good progress. It's great.

Yeah, it's good stuff. So Brian and I went and got our things. I got mine on Friday, and Brian got his on Sunday. And I got the Pfizer. He got the Moderna. And yours tastes like Dolly Parton, right? Is that the deal? Is this the one that she helped?

Yeah. Helped fun. Okay, good. That's her deal. It tastes a lot like Jolene and a coat of many colors. Oh, fantastic. Isn't that it? That's the thing, right?

Is that a thing? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if that's it or not. But I know. This vaccine's only good from 9 to 5, though. Oh, shoot. That explains a lot.

Actually, my favorite thing about yours, I was texting him about it last. night is uh it's one week more than the Pfizer makes you wait to get the second to get the booster so i didn't know this but the moderna is literally 28 days later like it is 28 days yes yeah so just you know keep your rage to a minimum don't run walk yeah we'll see shambled if you will uh killian murphy is set to come over later next month and um we're going to go grocery shopping together oh sweet you should go to that church and just hang out there for a minute we'll go hang on the church in the balcony we like hanging on the balcony i guess the the grocery store thing was the weeks later wasn't it oh i don't know uh yeah when there he's

hiding in the grocery store behind the uh shopping carts hold on now i just saw weeks you just saw him yeah if you don't remember a grocery store thing then it must have been days later it must have been days yeah yeah because there's no killing murphy in weeks anyway so if he was hiding in there it would have been uh yeah but i don't remember i don't remember who it was it could easily been Humple Stiltskin hanging out back there. Loved my second view or my, this is like my eighth viewing, but I love the second movie. I love it, love it, love it. People forget Hawkeyes and that thing, man.

He's in their sharpshooting too. He's got a sniper weapon and all that. That's pretty cool. I need to revisit both of those films. I think I've only seen, I think I've only seen them each once. Is that right? Maybe twice on days later. I love them.

They're so visceral and great. and days is great. I prefer weeks. It's an alien's alien thing for me. It's not that I will never, I will always hold the Danny Boyle film in high regard, but for some reason the sequel really works for me in a bigger, broader way.

And I'm bummed there was never a 28 months or a 28 years or whatever. Give me more, man. Give me more. I like the running zombies. I go against the green. Everybody out there like, I like my zombies slow and shambling. F right off. I like him running.

I like him running. Running adds so much more terror to the next. They're scary, dude. So anyway. The point is we both, now, this is fun because we've had two different experiences, right? So now when the day comes around for our second one, if we have any kind of reaction or whatever, we're going to gauge how different it is and, you know, talk about it on the show or whatever. Yeah, it should be interesting. I mean, you, we talked about this during film sack, or maybe before film sack, but you, you,

might not have been able to even do a film psych Saturday if we didn't have to push it to Sunday, right? Yeah, my arm was killing me, dude. Like, okay, so day of, no problems, nothing, no big deal. That night, a little sore going to bed, not too bad, but like a flu, like in a flu shot or whichever, which are always really mild for me, no big deal. Go to bed, wake up the next day, my arm is so stiff and pained, and it just got worse as the day went on. just, I could barely like lift to this point. Just like, oh my gosh, it hurts so bad. It just was killing me.

And obviously everybody's going to be different. But it hurt all day. And so when we bump film sack because Dunaway needed to a day, it was actually a blessing in the skies. Because I was like, I am not going to want to sit there and deal with this arm for, you know, the show or whatever. And it got worse as the day went on. So anyway, but by yesterday, fine. No problem. Look at this all the way up here, baby.

No problems. Moving that arm. Move that arm. problem at all no big lump no big pink spot no nothing no raised whatever um the only other thing is i had this little cough almost as if it was on cue look at that it keeps coming out the worst possible times but uh i don't know if that has anything to do with any of this it probably doesn't probably not um it's just one of yeah my my experience uh really straightforward so mine was in a grocery store. So basically

walk in, go over to the pharmacy. There's only one person working back there. A woman working behind the counter at the pharmacy. And she had to help the person that was in line behind me. And she says, okay, well, sit over there in those chairs and, you know, have your I had a jacket and then a short

sleeve shirt underneath it. So I was just able to take the jacket off and give her access to my arm. And she says, yeah, you know, basically we want you to stick around the area for 10 to 15 minutes make sure you're doing okay so I just basically walked around the grocery store

and looked around things it was a grocery store on the complete opposite side of town like basically almost all the way to the airport is this one and it's in the area this is probably one of the better parts

there's some good parts of Aurora and then there's some parts of Aurora where they always film cops whenever cops is filmed in Denver. They film it in parts of Aurora. But this wasn't this was a pretty good part of Aurora. And it's a part of Aurora that now has

an in and out burger. And the line for said in and out burger still goes it's probably still a half mile long quarter mile long. Well, same with the one by us. I don't get it all this time later. We've had them for a while now and they still get lines like that.

Yeah, every day. Oh my God. Not only that. That does not give me hope, Scott. I was really hoping that, like, all right, well, they're new. They're like a couple months old. I'm sure, you know, they'll be totally fine. But no, you're saying it's never going to change. No, I don't know if it ever goes away, but also they're very efficient, so it's not so bad. They are.

Yeah, things move quickly. They push you through. I mean, they only have five items on the menu. So really, how bad could it be? Yeah. And the other thing is there's like a block and a half away. There's a chick-fil-A that also does similar lines. I don't know.

I feel like everyone eats at those two places, and that's it. because those lines are both two miles long. I don't get it. It's really weird. I want chicken. I want beef. All right. You know which line to get into.

That's right. There's no other places around. You just have those two options. So get over there. Yeah, it's nuts. So you didn't, you didn't, the whole point.

No, it was three o'clock in the afternoon. So it was like, well, I've had lunch. Tina's making a cottage pie for dinner, so I'm not. Now, hold on.

Let's stop right there. Cottage pie. Okay. What is that? Cottage pie. So are you familiar with Shepherds pie? Yes, I love shepherd's pie.

with if you do it with lamb no what's the deal the difference between the two um i've got to look it up here because i wasn't sure lamb and beef versus well lamb you do lamb in shepherd's pie right or no is it just beef and shepherds pie and lamb is what makes cottage pie okay that is okay so it is yeah cottage pie is uh well then we had shepherd's pie because we used lamb oh it was it was ground lamb so we had a shepherd's pie okay i wonder for the meat. I guess the meat, it is important what the meat is, right? Like, it is. Okay. You can't just have any, you can't just have ground turkey in there. Doesn't count. Right. It's not cowherds pie. Cowherds pie. It's shepherds pie. Right, because they're hurting the sheep, the chef. They're

herding the sheep. So you got to, the shepherd doesn't herd the cows, Scott. Who's, who's heard? Who's who's hurting Curly and Mo? What shepherds do they have? Um, no, that makes sense. I cannot believe it. Just pit me. I'm going to make an horrible admission here. Never in my life did the shepherd part and the sheep part. It would be sense now, but I never knew that the reason it was called Shepard's Pyes, because there's lambs

meat in there. Duh. By, people can look back a few seconds and realize that I didn't know that either until I started thinking about it, so there you go. Well, we've learned, again, learned something today. This is fantastic. Made with Shep. Yep. Shep. Well done.

Shepherds pie made with Shep. Yep. Lots of Shep. For your chef, a fainting chef. Anyway, so that, that must have been great. I'll bet your wife makes it fun, cottage pie. She makes a terrific shepherd's pie. Oh, shepherd's pie, that's right. We've determined to have lamb in it.

And this is fresh lamb, too, because, well, no, I mean, I think it's relatively fresh lamb. I've got a new client that I'm working with that is a butcher up in Longmont. And they have a farm. They raise pigs, sheep, and cattle. And we got a whole bunch of, I basically said, you want to just do half cash, half trade on your website? Sounds good at us. Okay. So we went up and picked up a massive, like a big box full of different kinds of meat.

Oh, that's awesome. So I've got a racked of lamb waiting for me at some point. Dude, a butcher and the meat you get with a butcher is so much better. Yes. Oh, it's so good. Yes. We drove up there and we were driving by all the animals in the farm. Because the road takes you by the edge of their farm.

farm we're looking like yeah that's where okay you just got to make sure you know that's where the meat comes from yeah it's those right there need to know where that stuff uh it doesn't just magically appear under uh under cold refrigerated conditions that's correct got to come from somewhere i'll tell you what it's funny because this whole discussion about butcher's has been on my mind this week too because everybody's talking about the snider cut right and uh my one of our favorite we didn't see where this connection is going one of our favorite local butcher's here in town, and it's been here since I was in junior high, I think, or maybe high school, but it's called

Snyder's Meets. Oh, okay. And so they literally have deals that are called the Snyder cut, the Snyder Cut, or Snyder Cut. So you're like, oh, they're having a thing over at Snyder's. You can get the Snyder cut steak for half off this week. We should go get a, buy a couple of pounds or whatever.

Like, those are conversations I've actually had. So with everybody walking around going, oh, did you see the Snyder's cut? You see the Snyder's cut? I'm like, yeah, eat it. It's real good. Yeah, it's tasty, right? You know, pork chops or a nice beef bottom brown or whatever, yeah. Man, you're making me freaking hungry.

I'm sorry, let's talk about something that doesn't. I've had some proper meat lately. Like, I need some, I need a, I've had meat, but I want, like, proper meat. A really good, like, steak or ribeye or something. It's been ages, so how about that? That'd be all right. There you go. Yeah.

Well, anyway. So just to kind of wrap up on the vaccine situation, because it's, this all stem from me why I didn't go to In-N-Out Burger. Arm kind of sore if I like, you know, raise it up a little bit of soreness. Certainly if I press on that spot, it's sore, but no other side effects. That's good. That's fantastic. And you don't have a daughter in the house that will hit in the arm by accident, so that's good.

No, nor one that would hit me on purpose. I had one that hit me in the arm by accident. And she was just screwing around and went, ah, where? It hit me, and I went, oh, okay. Oh, gosh. Oh, it's fine. Nice. She owns you now, basically.

She can make you do whatever she wants. Yeah. My pride in her is not dipped, despite her accidental punching me in the arm. Yeah, yeah. Well, good. We're both, so Brian and I at the halfway point, we're going to, we got a nice couple. Well, let's see, mine's on the ninth and yours is on the very following week. And then mine's a week and a half later on the 18th.

Why are they different? Well, I guess we're asking each other. Because of science. I mean, you know, it's a science. Okay. Yeah. Why does the Johnson of Johnson won't only give you one dose? Tide comes in, tide goes out.

You can't explain that. Can't explain that with science. Do we know what the AstraZeneca one is supposed to be? Oh, that's funny. You said that because I just was reading that. This morning, I'll pull it right back up from my history. Here it is April, April for the AstraZeneca vaccine. Company says plans to apply for emergency use authorization next month,

adding a potential fourth vaccine to the U.S. rollout. uh the back that vaccine is a two doser um let's see it is 79 it says 79 percent effective against symptomatic COVID 19 and 100 percent effective against severe disease um they don't say about two or one I mean these guys are already in parts of Europe right like aren't they already out there doing it they have the coolest name if I'm if you're asking me which name is yeah it's a cool name dude um yeah but it got held up for a little bit because of some blood clots in like seven patients. Oh yeah, I was talking to Tom about this. He says that the people who were part of the control that had no actual vaccine

given to them, in other words, they were placebo patients. They had more blood clots. So they're actually almost 100% sure that the blood clots are unrelated 100% to the thing. Because this is all happening during the phase of the testing, you have to like do stuff. But it looks like it's all

bonker donkers it's like not really happening it's not really given people do they go test the placebo to make sure that it's not the thing giving people blood clots like uh it's good point we're using uh you know a special sugar pill mix of uh splendous stevia and uh and cane sugar oh here it is right here as a part of the trial more than 32,000 adult volunteers recruited across all ages received either two doses of the vaccine or a placebo vaccine at a four week interval 79% of trial participants were white, 22% Hispanic, 8% black, 4% Native American, and 4% Asian. 20% of the participants were 65 years or older, and approximately 60% had conditions linked with higher risk of severe symptoms, such as diabetes, severe obesity, or heart disease.

Oh, they're just talking about the U.S. tests. Oh, I read all that for nothing. I thought it was going to lead to, and seven people got blood clots, but it didn't go there. Well, thanks a lot, website, a piece of shit. I do know that out here in Colorado, I think today, the Dick Sporting Goods Park, which is the soccer field out east, is now opening as a mass vaccination site. So if you get there early, it's kind of like what Churie and Ashley did, where you just got to show up early, get in line, you get a number. If you make it, you make it, and go for it. I don't think it's like our setup had scheduling.

but it was a big open place like that, like a big stadium-sized sort of thing. I think that's probably where you'll, that's probably what's happening all around the country, I would guess. Probably. Here's my question. I thought Dicks was out of business. So you're telling me Dick's sporting goods still exists

because they closed down the two here and someone told me they were done like all over the country, but I guess not. God, I know of two Dick Sporting Goods that are local here to me, but are they closed? Because it's been a while since I've been to that area. I'm under the impression that they're still around. Catroom says they're all over the place.

So, yeah, I guess maybe just here, we didn't take here. It didn't stick. I don't know what happened. Oh, Sports Authority is the one that shut down. Are you sure? I know Dick's left. We used to have a huge one downtown, and I loved going there, and here's why. Because I'd go down there with Kim and the kids, they were younger.

And we'd be riding around, and maybe Nick was young enough to even be in a stroller still, and we'd be walking around. And I go. I know what's coming. I know, I know what's about to happen. said, my wife would say, uh, do you want to go anywhere? And I'll say, hey, while you go to whatever, bed, bath and whatever, I would say it like this. I go, I'm going to go to Dix. I'd say it like that loud. I thought you'd say it like, oh, okay, well, you go to bedbath and beyond me and Nick are going to go look at Dix. Yeah, I should have said, I should have said that.

But instead, I was like, I just made a big deal about the word and how if you say it loud, it's embarrassing. Emphasize Dix. Yeah. And then people around me would be like, Oh, this is yelling Dix as long as he can. But I actually really liked it at Dix. It was a cool place. And the building is now somebody converted into like a startup web company, app company. It's so cool. Like an incubator kind of thing?

Yeah, and you should see it, dude. Because you know how those things, the multi-level big ones are, you know, just tons of open air. Ceilings are a million things high. There's like multiple levels with the stairs leading to it. That is the coolest space for like a big spread out. office place? It totally is. Oh, so rad. Big central open area and yeah, the one up

probably the closest one to me is up at Flatiron Crossing up north and that's the layout up there. It's a two level deal with an open central area and, you know, all the bicycling stuff up on the second level, which is where I go.

That's pretty much it. Well, when I go, I never bought anything there and maybe that's part of the problem. It's like the ultimate universe electronics store. That's part of the problem. Yes. It's your fault. It's closed down in Utah.

Yeah. I just go in there and go, oh, those are cool. I'll never buy that. Oh, that's awesome. I'm never buying that. Look at that kayak. I'll never do that.

Like, yeah. I don't like spending any money. Oh, I hear the plumber. Hold on. Okay, so today. Ooh, I'm fixing. Well, our hot water. Our hot water heaters are full of sediment,

like tons of it. They need to be taken out. So we have two. of them, and the question was, do we replace the two hot water heaters, either with one giant one or two more normal ones? Or, do we bite the bullet, spend the extra 600 bucks that it would cost me to just get the, what's it called? The tankless water heater system. Have you heard of this? Have you heard of this? Oh, yeah. It's like a smaller thing mounts on the wall. Or it can. Way smaller than a typical, you know, I had the same, I had the same decision to make as

well, and I'm glad you brought this up, because it was my sediments exactly. Ah, I can't believe I didn't see us going there. All the signs were there. I saw the, like, those familiar landmarks. But I didn't see the joke until I pulled up in the driveway. That's amazing. Well done. Anyway, so it's a...

No, those are great, those tankless ones. Yeah, because it's eternal. They just heat in real time. So you never... Yeah, and it's like just a super... zigzaggy deal in there to keep the water against the heating element for as long as possible to get it heated up yeah so we're doing it and as much as i didn't want to spend the extra cash we said well we got the stimulus thing let's just use that and so that's happening as we speak so by the time

this shows over today i might have permanently hot water yeah and i won't have to turn the shower on and then go do other stuff and then come back to see if it's warm yet it'll be great it'll be warm immediately boom and a cracketow in the chat room says i have tankless if you have soft hard water you have to flesh it every year, soft water about every four years. So I think she just meant if you have hard water, you have to flush it every year, soft water about every four years. Yes, and we have the soft now. You have soft water now.

That's why we did in that order. We did the soft first so that the nisk could come in and all of it gives me a headache because A, I don't understand how any of it works. And B, I don't like spending money on stuff like this. I hate it. I hate it. And Kim's like, look, I put a little away all the time for, house stuff. We have to. That's what you do as a homeowner.

Things break. So you've got to have a little something tucked away in case the air conditioner flies off or does whatever. And so she's right. And once again, Kim is right. Okay. I full credit to Kim. But I still hate it. I still hate it. There's nothing you can do about me hating it. All right. I'm just going to hate

it. I'm just going to hate it. I'll tell you what I don't hate. And that is adding Brian done the way to the call trying to give away some prizes. We're going to do all that now. I get a little worked up there, so I'm not quite where I need to be. But I'm getting there. Come on back down, Scott.

Come on back down. Oh, and the number 801-471-0462 is the one you're going to want to use for this. Please do. It begins now. All right, we're going to play Babel Royale with our old pal, Brian Dunaway, who is now one year older, one year wiser. That's right, our slightly older pal. Yeah. How are you doing there, dude? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. How are you guys doing today?

We're good. Are you at work? I am. Yeah. Are they, uh, are you at work? Yes. Are they treating you well to work? Are they, do they appreciate it? No, they're not. Oh, okay. Great. I was really hoping they were. So if you could donate to my Patreon page, I can, uh, finally realize my dream of independence. Yeah. Are they recording this call for, uh, for quality of assurance?

I have no, but you always ask me if I'm at work, and I'm sure that probably doesn't both well. Well, I'm glad you're hearing no matter where you're at. I take my lunch break. Oh, I got you. Yeah, I take 11. Well, plus you're two hours ahead of us, so it's like 11.30 there. It's time to eat. It's 11.30.

I take my lunch break. You know, it's not a secret or anything. It's time to eat, yo. I just like giving you hard time, pal. Yeah, pal of ours. Well, it's good to have you here. We're glad that your birthday went well and always fun to have Brian on. Did I say it went well?

I don't know. Did you? Maybe you didn't. How was it? I don't think I did. Oh. But it did it. Okay. Well, I'm going to say, how poorly did your birthday go? Let's ask that question. All right. So I got everything I wanted. It was a beautiful day outside. I got to walk. Yeah. But I didn't get the banana split I wanted. So the whole day was shit. The whole day was this shit. There I said it. That's a shit day right there. well happy birthday anyway

because we're glad you're here but I did get a banana split finally I went to Dairy Queen that's where I wanted it from my family was like ah he wants a banana split and I'm like I'm going from Dairy Queen I haven't it Sonic Oh shit Sonic

Sonic sucks Sonic Sonic they put a pile of ice cream in a cup And then they put like They put strawberry syrup on top And then some whipped cream cherry on top of that and then they handed me a second cup with uh with like chocolate syrup and then they cut up like five but they like cut up five pieces of bananas and they put it on one side and then they said they didn't have walnuts how about peanuts it's like okay not my

favorite but all right and then they didn't give me the peanuts so me and sonic we've got issues no that's that that that is a defective banana split they really screwed you on the banana split there. Holy God. Ice cream was delicious. The ingredients were fine, fresh, just not the right combination. I can't believe that those were my birthday. I can't believe they have a single freaking fresh banana at Sonic. That blows my mind

that they keep those on. Really? Really? Like, legit surprise. This doesn't seem like something. Our Sonic, I would never go there and say, I'd like a piece of fresh fruit of any sort, please. There's no way. Well, I mean, it's probably the only piece of fresh fruit they have there. There's no reason for them to have a

pair or an apple or Look, I realize I'm being a diva and a drama queen. I get it. I mean, whatever. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. I know. You had a great birthday.

Yeah. Because when you think banana split, you think three splorks of softs of ice cream. Yeah. Banana split in half. That's the, hence the name on either side. And then different flavor topics on each. Yeah. Right.

And served in one of those, those petrays at the hospital. Yeah. Yeah, a boat. Exactly. A freaking boat. A freaking boat. Sonic. And you get hot fudge on the middle one.

You get pineapple on the other one. You get strawberry on the other one. See, this is why I love you guys. And walnuts. See, I love you guys because you guys, the only people that have listened to me and actually has sympathy, everybody else is just like, shut out. Oh, no, I have 100% to get that. I wouldn't do it, but I'd be tempted to just take that and just throw it down on the ground.

A banana split, this is not. Yeah. And you know what you should do? You should put on roller skates. You should put on roller skates. You should put on roller skates. You should roll in there with yours. Like, have your own in the car.

Roll up to the thing. This is bad. Splat. Good day, sir. I said good day. And then you roll away on your roller plates. All right. Well, thank you guys.

I appreciate that. We have a listener who's been waiting very patiently. Let's find out who it is. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Hey, this is Logan, dreadnecks in the pad pool. Well, hello, Logan.

It's good to hear from you. Thank you for being so patient hanging on the line there while we talked about ice cream for a while. That was pretty good. Yeah. So far, cottage pie, shepherd's pie, and ice cream. This is the... It's like a buffet, a really bad buffet. The morning binge is what this is.

The morning binge. All right. We've done it. Let's now introduce what's happening. Brian, will you tell Logan what he could win and how we're going to play this game today? Yeah, I could do that. I could do that. I'm going to give Scott and Brian a topic.

They're going to go back and forth giving me answers that fit that topic. If one of them gives a wrong answer or repeated answer, they take too long and come up with an answer. The one will go to the other player. Logan, your job is to predict who's going to come out on top based on the topic. Today, you're playing for a couple of games courtesy of Matthew Bach. Thanks Matthew Bach for sending these codes in. Shopkeep 2 and Capitalism 2. Oh, that sounds like like, boy, you're going to just see.

the retail system at work with both of these games. Yeah, what's cool is one is like Middle Ages sort of magical time, and then the other one is more of a modern take, but they both are focused on sort of the economic management of your shop and or big company. Those are both actually great games. Learn about greed in multiple eras with today's prizes. That's right.

They need a topic, though, and this one comes to us from Kirk Reinhold. a.k.a. Centrofuse in the chat. Since the introduction of the WWWF championship. I think you, I think that too many W is in there. Do it again? Three W. Three Ws and an F.

The WWWF championship back in 1963. There have been 64 men officially recognized as having held one of the top belts in WWE, WWF, or WWWF. I didn't know there was three Ws. I didn't know that. I didn't either. I mean, there is still a WWF, but there's also a WWF. Is that still a thing now? Because the world light were, oh, gee.

What are you Googling, Scott? No, is it? No, no, no, no. I was going to play this. This guy here. Oh, okay. It's still real to me, damn it. Yeah. I saw your, I was like, there's still a WWWF and look like you were typing.

So that's what I was like, wait a minute, you. I just got to hear that guy one more time in my life. That's all. Gotcha. So these belts are the WWE Championship, the World Heavyweight Championship, and the WWE Universal Championship or any of their variants depending on whatever the storyline is at the time.

How many of those... Are you implying these are story-driven? I think that's what he's doing. Yeah, I think that's what he's doing. No, I mean, I mean these real events that are not fictional or staged in any way, shape, or form.

All right. How many of these bona fide real winners can you name? 64 WWE champions. Now, you guys both know more about wrestling than I do. Oh, I know barely anything, but maybe more, maybe slightly more than you. You guys didn't turn off the TV Saturday mornings after the last cartoon ended. And you guys kept watching whatever wrestling thing came on as soon as that last cartoon ended on Saturday morning.

So I feel like you guys will be better at this. However, I will put in a mulligan. Um, in play. Do we get to wrestle for it? Not, not the, is it the same, is it the same, same rules apply where we get the natural molligan if we get our first answer on, but then we get another one. Right. First answer mulligan always applies. And then you guys get a bonus mulligan. Okay. Um, uh, uh, Kirk actually suggested I do strikes.

Oh. Yeah. Nice. Hey, you know, the, the acronym for bonus mulligan is BM. We get a, we get a B. That's exciting. All right. So, dreadnecks. Now that you've heard the topic. and their relative experience with said topic. Who do you want to go first, and who do you think is going to win? Scott is not inspiring me with confidence, saying that he knows very little about wrestling. So I'm going to go with Brian Dunaway on this one. You'll let me start, okay.

100% the right move, by the way, dreadnecks. You're not wrong to feel that way. I shouldn't inspire any confidence in this topic. All right, so I'm first here. You are first. Okay. Let's do, well, I'm sure at some point Hulk Hogan held the title. Indeed, he did.

Yes. Yep. Hulk Hogan, indeed, a WW champion. All right, Brian. It's like you really had to search for that ding. I had to find the right page. I found out for it. I'm going to go with, who, Rick Flair.

Rick Flair. Yes, Rick Flair right there. Is that something? Rick Flair did? That's something he does. I don't know that Rick Flair does that. For some reason, I can see Rick Flair doing that and then walking around with the belt on his shoulder

and doing the strut, you know, the cocky thing. So that's, that was a given in my head anyway. Gotcha. All right. I'll stick with the names I know. Dwayne the Rock Johnson perhaps had it. Oh, yeah. Let's see that.

Dwayne the Rock Johnson, absolutely. W.W.E. Champion. Champion. Champion. All right. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with, I don't think that word means what you think it means. Andre the Giant.

It's inconceivable, but yes, he is on the list. Oh, yeah, I should know that. I watch that. He's here for your soul. You should watch that documentary if you haven't about him. It's very good. The one on each one on each one. Oh, yeah.

Forgot the name, but I loved it. Um, I don't even really care about wrestling, but I liked it. Let's go with, uh, these are just the ones I know that are just wrestlers, so I don't know if they want. Go with what you know. Go with who you know. Steve Austin, the Steve Austin guy. He's coming to get you. What was this phrase?

I'm coming to get you. Nope. I'm coming to get you. Yeah, what was his nickname, Scott? It wasn't just Steve Austin. Cold Steve Austin. Stone Cold Steve Austin. That's why I took to be a second because he wasn't under Austin and he wasn't under Steve, but he is under Stone Cold Steve.

All right. That's sad. Sweet. I had no idea if he won anything. I just knew he was cool. I'm naming everyone who's in movies, by the way. I don't know if you've noticed this yet, but this is how little I know. Go ahead, Ryan.

I think I remember this right. I think I'm going to do it early because I think I remember this right. But if not, I get the Mulligan. Big show, the big show. I think he took it from Stone Cold, didn't he? Did he remember correctly? You're asking me? You're asking Scott?

If you're asking us, no idea, dude. If you're asking us, then Logan has already won. I'm going on my memories, which are not the greatest. Big show, absolutely, WWE champion. Do you have a real name? Or is it say there? No, his real name was Big Show. No, I mean.

Yeah, the name was Big Show. It was on his, it's on the paycheck. Did we know him like as so-and-so big show, so-and-so? Oh, no. No, he just, Paul White. This is his real name. That's boring. Well, yeah, you would definitely change your name if it was Paul White.

I don't even think I knew that. Definitely a big show then. Just again, here we are with the names I know. Yeah, yeah. The Undertaker. The Undertaker. Oh, that's a good one. Also, not his real name, and yes, he is a W.W.E. champion.

I find that hard to believe. Undertooker or something like that, and they just slightly... Which part do you find hard to believe that... That wasn't his real name, I think. Mark Calloway, by the way, is his... Oh, that's boring. That sucks all the life out of the Undertaker part of it. And in his birthday, two days is his birthday. He'll be 56. All right.

Ooh, that means he's close to death. Those guys don't live very long. He's ever closer to being needing an Undertaker. right right right always makes me sad how how short lives are for those guys it's no good each other up anyway i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with uh i'm gonna go with uh i'm gonna go with a man who ruled the 90s and when i was starting to peter off from the uh wrestling scene triple h triple h h h as some people call love them or hate them uh yes triple H, absolutely, on there. Is his, no, I've got to look that up.

I'm assuming that his name. Hank. Hank. Right. Right. Basically. Hambone. Triple H's real name. You ready?

Paul Michael Levesque. Like I said, there's a reason why wrestlers have names. There's a single H in his name in the middle of Michael, and that's it. I was really hoping for a triple H name. That was too, right? Henry. Herbert Humphrey. Hoover.

Yeah, something like that. Or Hank Hill, but with something in the middle with an inch. All right, let's go with, uh, I don't know if he ever won, though. Uh, the iron, the iron sheesh.

Let's do the iron sheik. Oh, iron chic. Oh, that's old school. I forgot about that. Iron chic. Uh, he paid the iron price, and he did get the WWE belt. Oh, nice. What year did you win that one?

Who knows, dude. Yeah, I don't have any idea. He was in that document. He was not on your list? No. Oh, my list is a list. It's a... Fine.

John Sina. Good Lord. Oh, shit. John Sina. Gosh, dang it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, I got one.

Snap into a slim gym. Snap into a slim gym. Oh, yeah. Hold on. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Come on.

Savage. Savage. Savage. What's his name? What's his name? Savage. Uh. Yeah.

Savage. Savage. Savage. Oh, duh. We work with a Randy. Randy Savage. Randy Savage. Oh.

That's right. Macho man, Randy Savage. There you go. Yep, absolutely. WWE. She was thinking Ron or some other R.N.A. I couldn't think of Randy. I thought you were confused him with Randy Orton, but that's my answer then.

That's your answer? Randy Orton? Yeah. The kind of name is Randy Orton. He didn't pick a new one. All right. My friend has been pulling me back into wrestling, and he's also been making me watch the robot wars.

Oh, robot wars is cool, man. But nothing wrong with that. Our guest today, Bill Durand, would tell you that you're right to be watching. I've been watching a lot of bad TV lately. I just realized that. By the way, Randy Orton is on the list. I was just kind of building up the suspense. Is Robar Wars one of these?

things where people build robots and they battle in a cage kind of thing? Yes. No. Yes. Isn't it? Of course it is. It's in the title. Well, no, but there could easily, listen, there was a Dino Wars cartoon.

I didn't think people do dinosaurs and had them. Dino Wars. Yeah, no, that's a good point. I thought it could be like an animated, you know, Transformers Go-Botsie kind of thing. I'm pretty sure it's the one Bill recommended to us directly a couple of times. Yeah, I think you did. or battle, what is it? BattleBots is the one that I've watched and I know about.

Yeah, it's all yeah, Battlebots. We've also been watching that's on YouTube. All that stuff's cool, man. Everything about robots fighting is cool. My friend has been such a huge influence to me lately with watching Trash TV. I've been going backwards on South Park, I mean, which is not always trash TV, but if you go back to the 2006s, which is where I'm at, you know, you might be. That's all right.

It's fine seasons. It might be in trouble. Yeah, it's fine. Look, we all need friends like that. I'm just sad to hear that we're not your favorite friends that lead you into trash situations. I didn't say you were my favorite friends. I've been following you guys around for how long we've been doing this film sack? We've been, we've been sharing crap for years.

Yeah, 2009, October of O'9. Whenever your birthday comes up, you start feeling nostalgic. Dude, you and I were still doing TMS when Filmsack started that month. Think of that. You mean, ELR. ELR, I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. TMS is still three years away from that point.

all right sorry okay who went last i don't even know i went last with randy or not sh don't say the word oh no you go i heard yeah you totally stole that one from scott randy arton was totally on the tip of scott's time yeah i was ready to roll it wasn't until he said randy savage i was like oh crap it's not the only randy is it um all right who's the one that chewed gum uh the one that chewed gum yeah in the in the scanner face movie with the uh i'm all out of gum the sad thing is a exactly what you're talking about that's the worst part of this whole thing i thought i heard he was all out of chewing gum yeah he had to kick some butt yeah i'm all out of gum the longest fight scene i'd ever seen up into that point i think there's one longer than that now him and keith david right

keith david yeah keith david's so great and a 25 minute uh fight scene in an alley um what if i only know the last name of a guy is that enough or uh I don't know, because I didn't give you, I didn't give you Savage until you got Randy Savage. Oh, that's true. Plus, you still got a freaking Mulligan. You got a mulligan. All right. I know there are a couple of, there are a couple of hearts in the, I don't know if they're supposed to be related or what their deal is, but I just know there's like a hearts and I want to say, well, H-A-R-T, one of them is.

Shorts. You're messing me up. Hold on. Brett. Brett Hart. Shirt. Good. You chose the right one.

Yes. Brett Hart. Absolutely. Shart. Bright part. Uh-huh. Very good. Bright Bart.

Boot a judge. Shart. Boot edge. All right. Go ahead, Dunway. Well, since I just reminded myself, I still do have a mulligan. I'm going to go ahead and try out. uh uh um goate wearing dark goatee wearing uh hollywood hulk hogan he came back and i think he stole

the belt for a time yeah but does that count if the same it's still terry balucci or whatever his name is right does that count well brian'll have to tell us because it's kind of an alternate isn't he just it does not count yeah i mean it's it's oh once you win the belt as whoever you are you get the belt so hollywood hoagin hollywood hoagin not listed here is no that's a total alternate personality. Yeah. It's not the same guy. Same dude.

So are you saying this, are you saying wrestling's real? It's real to me. It's real to me. Damn it. So you're saying wrestling's real. No, no. I'm saying it's not real. Which is it?

That one once, or only one. So then it is real. How is that possible? What does Israel have to do with this? How are you arguing that one is, uh, that one is, uh, So you're saying, hold on, hold on, you're saying their, the characters that they play are the individuals, not the one guy doing the characters. Right, I mean, what do you think? You think Leonard Nimoy, do you think their Nimoy played both parts in Star Trek?

Both parts. Is that what you think? Yeah, we do think that. If I, if I agree that the two characters one different time, then I'd be arguing that it's real. Yeah, the other guy was like Sean Nimoy. who played both Hulk Hogan and Hollywood Hollywood. Fine. Vince McMahon once took the belt back for himself.

He absolutely did. I'm here on the list. I would have never gotten that. Never gotten that. I didn't know that. You used up your Mulligan for that whole business. Why? Why wasted it?

Because I wanted to prove wrestling was real. Okay. And how'd that go for you? Well, it's still real to him, damn it. I feel good about it. I feel good. Let's see then. They had other stunts.

things like that where somebody would come in and get the title it wasn't even a wrestler but they were like famous for other stuff yeah i'm i'm down to stunts by the way if you didn't notice are you oh you're down to the people who uh didn't take wrestling seriously that's right um mark marron's gonna be my next answer oh i'm ooh we're hitting the skids here all the sudden uh oh man Hold on. Still so many names on this list that I'm surprised. I just got to think of who I can see.

Who can I see? Who punched what's his name on 2020? Who punched that at all? What is this? John Stossel? No, it was John Stossel. He got punched by... Oh, he did.

That's right. They were doing his wrestling real... It was, honestly, it was terrible journalism. I don't remember that. A piece of shit coverage. We all took... We all thought 2020 was on the up and up. That wrestling episode.

episode. It was the beginning of what we do now. It was the beginning of what we do now with news. It's garbage. It's garbage. So you're saying that wrestling is not real. I'm saying. Oh, you know what I just saw that? Oh. Oh, what's his name? Cotour. Is that another Randy? Randy Couture? Randy Couture? Or is he a UFC guy? I don't know what he is. Some Randy Cotour.

Randy Cotour. He absolutely is a UFC guy. I'm not a wrestler. Oh, he's not a... Damn it. All right. Come up with another answer, Scott. He's playing with our hearts here.

Oh, I don't know if he took the thing, but I, uh, he was in trouble, uh, because I saw the Bulls documentary, uh, uh, painted his hair all the time. Wackadoo, North Korea loves him. He painted his hair all the time. I know exactly what he did he say. Dennis Rodman is who I'm thinking of. There you go. Oh, did he win the belt out of that wind? He did not. This game is a good.

Damn it! What to say. Oh, are you guys ready to kick yourselves? I have one real. Oh, okay, one left, yes. I have mankind, and I couldn't think of anything. Yeah, mankind is on the list, so you did have a backup. AJ Stiles, Alberto del Rio, Batista.

Oh, they did Batista. I thought we did Batista. Nobody said Batista. Superstar, Billy Graham, Bob Beckland, Bobby Lashley, Booker T, A.K.A. King Booker, Bronz Strowman, Bray White, aka Brock Lesnar, Bruno Sam Martino,

Buddy Rogers, Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, and the funny house. Gah. Christian, C.M. Punk. C.M. Punk! Oh, I can't believe you're doing that. Daniel, Brian, Dean Ambrose, Diesel, aka Kevin Nash.

Oh, Kevin Nessigler, Drew McIntyre, Eddie Guerrero, Edge, Finn Baylor Goldberg. Goldberg. Goldberg. Who even appears on the Goldbergs as Goldberg. Yeah, cribs. The Great Collian, actually, he's a

coach, he's not, he's not Goldberg. Ivan Koloff, Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, Jinder Mahal, John Bradshaw-Layfield, Kane. Kane, we didn't make do it. I don't do it. Kevin Owens, Coffey Kingston, Kurt Engel, Mark Henry,

The Miz, who was, got his crew started on the real world. Yeah, this is after me. Is that true? Pedro Morales, Ray Mysterio, Rob Van Darn, Rob Van Dhan. I wasn't watching during this time. Roman Raines, who, uh, you know, has the, the, the, the sledgehammer, whatever.

Sergeant Slaughter, Sutherlanders, Sean Michaels, Seamus, Stan Stasiak, Psycho Sid, the Ultimate Warrior and Yokozuna. Oh, Yoko Zuna. I love Yoko Zuna. Okay. what happened to the guy that ran for the governor of Minnesota

he never got a belt yeah he never got a belt okay okay all right and when they had Trump that stunt Trump thing they didn't give Trump anything right he just showed up Justin never got a belt okay no all right he's like Leonardo DiCaprio of wrestling

I'm Jesse Ventura and I never got a belt I never got a belt I was never able to win it was a conspiracy at the highest levels of government okay uh well that means listen this is what this means what it means is you win i don't but you do winner winner chicken dinner well done logan you've won and that means you walk away with a handful of prizes uh you got to email brian coverville at gmail dot com to get those codes but uh you're the winner how do you feel uh i was really worried when brian done away

didn't realize that Hulk Hogan and hollywood Hogan are the same person uh but you pulled it out I owe you one banana split Nice, nice Oh, very good Yeah, I hear they're really good at Sonic You should get them at Sonic Yeah fantastic over there Congratulations and well done

Brian I still think you The Hollywood Holockegon was the equivalent Of me walking out and strutting around the ring It really was Yeah, it was the breakaway folding chair Is what that was Bring a little tension to the Brand standing, yes

So that was one of my favorite ones we've done That was really fun. Yeah. Anytime you could bring me some trash TV trivia. Bring it. Yeah, bring it. Hey, who, wait, who was the, who provided today's topic again? Oh, Kirk Reinhold.

Oh, very nice, Kirk. Well, good job. That was a good pick. Yeah. If you have your own ideas about what we could do, you can find links on the site where you can send us ideas. And send us some questions about stope operas during the late 80s. It's only days of our lives is all you watched. What else was that?

There was nothing else. Oh, the answer's Bo and Kyriacus, Victor Kyriacus. Well, that's right. Jennifer Aniston's dad, yes. How do we know those names? My gosh, we suck. All right. Hey, Dunaway.

Good job. Cash, Kayla. Yeah, that's right. Tomorrow, don't you forget, tomorrow, we got a big deal going. We got the Boop Show and we got games to talk about. And I'm pretty sure you talked me into buying your game. So, nice job. Yeah.

Yeah. King Arthur Knight's Tale is, it is, it's early. Early, early, early access, but so far it is freaking amazing. Yeah. We're talking like Middle Ages with magic, supernatural business version of kind of an ex-com sort of term-based thing. Yeah. Very excited.

Fantasy set in the Arthurian period. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah. I hate the name because it reminds me of the Heath Ledger movie. Like, why they call it a night's tale? Give me a freaking break. But anyway, that's fine. So we'll check that out.

And plus whatever I've decided to play, I'm still sort of on the fence. I've got to figure it out today. But that'll be tomorrow at 3.30 Mountain Time right here at frogpants. com, and, of course, on the podcast. Brian Dunaway, have a great day. We'll see you later. You. About Calliope and Hugh.

Remember Q when he time traveled on days of our lives? Yes, that's where I first saw him. And so when he showed up in Star Trek, it took a while for me to get past it. I remember going, oh, this is hard. And then it was hard again when he was the creepy doctor in the hand that rocks the cradle and he was putting fingers where they don't belong and I remember practicing little home gymecology yeah I remember going oh well Q now I have to think of you in a whole different way and then I shook his hand at a convention and he

wouldn't give me his portrait because I was a dollar short and now I think of him in a whole different way and he had space hands trusty space hands yeah dang it what a yeah but then uh Calliopee was uh Harley Quinn the voice of Harley Quinn for the longest time on the I didn't know that on the Batman yeah that's cool. Batman animated series. I like that. I found something yesterday that I noticed about myself.

When I read comics with Batman in it, I hear the dialogue in, what's his name's voice? His name just left. Yes. Yes, I know exactly you're talking about. I think everyone loves. I'll bring the chat back up. You guys don't know. Not bail.

Gosh, dang it. Kevin Conroy. Kevin Conroy. I hear it. Christian Vale. Yeah, I don't hear it. hearing Christian Bales. Hey, you guys, I freaking need to go find some of the man.

I hear Adam West. What are we going to do about this terrible affection in Gotham? Or whoever did it in the Super Friends, it was a while before I could stop hearing that. Hey, Robin. Hey, Robin. Let's get in the Batmobile, Robin. He was way too excited back then. All right.

That's going to do it for now. We're going to take a break. And when we come back, we'll have some time with, with Bill and things like that. And I may share one new story today with people after that about people sitting on toilets backwards. We'll get to that. I saw that. Yes.

That'll be fun. And I also want to do a little, Brian and I are going to do a little spoiler talk about Falcon and the Winter Soldier today. Woo-hoo. Yeah. So stick around for that. All coming up after this song break. Brian? Yeah, let's go to Philadelphia to the indie rock scene out there. Tom

Lugo's dark, heartfelt, edgy songs and productions are something that's put him on the map, not just for his own band, but also as head of the label, the independent record label, Peletico, I'm sorry, Pettico, Recordings. He's also been behind the pop noise festival back there and worked behind the scenes on other indie rock projects like Stellarscope, Mayu, and Cielo Oceano. This is from the brand new album by his band Panophonic. It's an album called Awakening. Here is the song, Unhinge, featuring Danny Mari on vocals.

Damn, you're lucky you got caught. If you were still up there, you'd be toast. We're doing Falcon. The morning. And we're back, everybody. It's a really great moment in Brian's history. You could just smell the Jameson. You could just smell the whiskey from that belch still in the studio here.

I got to air this thing out. You guys missed out. Well, I guess you heard it because we put it out on the main feed. On the main feed, yeah. That's the episode that goes out on the main feed. Thanks. That's the one. Yeah, you did this amazing burp.

We're doing Falcon. so good it's so good i've had so many accidental burps on the show nothing compared to that nothing not even close that came from that came from so far down i mean that was like uh al capone's vault is where that one got dredged up from yep and it wasn't it wasn't it was going to stop for nobody i guess is what i'm trying to say it was not going to hold that's right nothing's going to stand in the way of that one all right well it's been Bill Duran time and we got a cool question for him today that I think may apply to all sorts of makers out there, not just people doing stuff like he does, but like if you're a digital artist or a traditional artist or somebody who likes to go to conventions and have a booth or whatever, all kinds of cool stuff like that answered in today's question. But before we do that, we play this. Your bat caves open there, Bill.

And then we welcome Bill Duran to the show all the way from Punish Props.com up somewhere in the Seattle area. welcome, Bill. How are you? Good morning. That's fantastic to hear. I was thinking of you yesterday. Why? Oh, I already moved it. I was impressing some, no, I was impressing the, so this plumber dude came to get some estimate stuff before he could do the work today. And I showed him the mass effect gun you made. This dude lost it because he's a huge mass effect fan. Oh, cool. Yeah. So I'm keeping it very safe now, and this room is locked because I don't want the plumber coming in here. So nice job on that. And we were talking

about the new remaster coming out. And he was just getting all giddy about it. And he couldn't believe I had this replica. I'm like, we should see this other stuff this guy makes. He's like, freaky that's my old work, right? Yeah. So it's like phase one or two of Bill. Now we're in like phase 50. And

I told him to go check your site out. He says he would. So you might have a new viewer as up today. Oh, fabulous. Yeah, we'll see how that goes. But today, we answer a user question, a listener question, not a user you're not users you're listeners users yeah you user uh this is from somebody named sandorini which is a great name i don't practice sandarini no why did i know that was coming do you have a crystal ball i practice sandorini i ain't got a crystal ball yeah something something something let's get to this

he says hey he asked this question and again i think this is really uh i don't know a cool question for almost anybody making anything, okay? Even podcasters, I think this is a good question for it, but we're going to hit it. Here it goes. Hi, Bill. Should makers or creators ever be worried about making props or replicas and having the companies that own those IPs come after them legally? How has that been for you?

Very curious, thanks, Sandorini. So it's a really good question. When you make a Skyrim sword, you make, I don't know, that replica pistol from Mass Effect. it's like where are we now with that stuff there was a day and it was a while ago but in the early 2000s if you started putting up fan art on the online you'd get cease and desists people would kind of freak out because they didn't know quite what this new world was and i've sort of for myself anyway it was famously got served by marvel once for drawing fat heroes and uh i made a fat or no it was dc i made a fat batman and a fat wonder woman and they got they said please you know cease and desist

our lawyers, this and that, and it was a scary moment and I had to pull them down. These days, they don't care. Like, you can make fan art all day. People sell fan art. People sell replicas. People have Etsy stores that are dedicated to baby Yoda's or whatever or whatever. I suppose there's probably some limit.

If somebody on Etsy started selling a billion baby Yoda plushies, my guess is Disney would swoop in and say, huh, we probably could do that business. So you stop doing that. Stop that. That they do. isn't a goofy. Right.

So for you and these replicas and like I mentioned those other examples, how big of an issue has that been or is it an issue at all? Right. So a couple of things right off the bat. Yes, this is a big thing in the prop making and collecting and buying community. It applies to anyone who makes creative artwork that leverages someone else's IP in any way. But also, what I want to talk about is not. consider legal advice.

If you're not a lawyer. If you're dabbling with this sort of thing as part of your business, then that's your choice. And if you have serious questions about it, you should talk to a legal professional. However, I did do a video about this. So if you really want to go in-depth, go to YouTube and look up Punished Props Copyright for more of an in-depth look. But until then, here's some advice. First, again, not legal advice. if you're making a one off of something

so let's say Scott let's say I commissioned you to draw a really cool painting of a Batman that you were impersonating sure first there's not a whole lot of the DC can do

to stop that right I send you the what a handful of dollars it would cost you send me the art no one there's no middleman no one can stop us right right and they don't they don't need to try and stop that they're not too worried about no this is behind the scenes transaction between you and i yeah it sounds not to sound clandestine but it's basically an under the table deal where you know we didn't right we're not doing this publicly

we're just making a thing for each other or whatever yeah yeah so if that's what you're up to don't worry about it yeah if you made a mold of something or if you're selling let's say you know a series of 500 prints of your Batman then you could get into trouble if you don't have a license I should have to point out it is possible to get licenses for these things but if you don't have licenses

you should be more concerned I'm avoiding saying you're doing the right or wrong thing or illegal thing it's really more of a range of risk now the worst that can happen let's say I made my mass effect guns and I started selling them and I did I used to sell castings in my mass spec guns.

Worse thing going to happen, usually company sends you a cease and desist letter. They're like, yo, cut it out. And that should be where it ends. I recommend it that happens. You can cease and desist at that point, usually. Yeah. It's just a letter saying, we notice that you're doing this.

We're not a fan. And since we own the IP, we're telling you to cut it out. If that happens to you, just comply. That's it. Simply comply. No big deal. Take your listings down. Continuing to sell those items and getting caught again,

that's when your legal trouble starts, right? When they know you know you shouldn't be doing it and you still do it anyway, that's when they're like, all right, well, we're going to see about getting the cut of all the sales that you've made so far. That's when suddenly you owe them money. And they don't know if you have the money. They don't know how much money you've made. They just know that they have an amount of money that they'd like to get from you. And you don't want to be in that position.

Yeah, as fat Tony, you get a T&D, cut it out. As Fat Tony once told Homer, we just want the monies, Homer. You just want the money. My wife keeps asking me, where's the monies? Now, I've never been seen, indeed, but I have friends who have. Yeah. And the risk there is that you spend a long time making that artwork, right? And now you can't sell it.

Yeah. So the time put into it is a total watch. I have a friend who spent a good month making a Star Lord helmet, and it looked gorgeous. And he put it up on Etsy. In three days later, you got a letter from Disney saying, nope, can't sell it. So that month of work was a wash, right? Now, of course, I got a copy of the helmet. Yeah, you got to make your own.

Yeah, I get you, sure. You know what I mean? Like, the risk there is a huge waste of time. And if this is what you're doing for a living, you can't afford to just blow a whole month like that. So that's what you need to keep in mind if you're gauging how risky you want to be. Well, plus you're doing a thing, specifically you are doing a thing that's a little bit different than that now. You make content about you making content. In other words, you can make a sword from a famous video game or a famous movie or whatever.

And regardless of the who owns the IP or whatever, there's nothing, there is nothing wrong with you making your own replica of it. What you're doing is leveraging content around the making of it. Right. that then is, you know, can be a part of your business. So that's different. That's one of the key differences, right? Like, it's not like you're selling these swords. You're selling content around making the swords.

How to make a prop of something, or a replica of something that they like, which seems like it would be a lot safer to do. It's safer. Exactly. It's safer. It's not a guaranteed thing. But I've never, no one's asked me to stop. In fact, many companies have paid me to make something from their game.

So that seems to work out for me. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I don't sell replicas anymore. I could pursue a license, and there are a couple of companies I'm close enough with that I could do that. But I don't want to. I like selling books. Big fan of selling books instead of props. I completely own the copyright on my books. They're my books.

I wrote them. And I don't have to deal with or worry about any of that. That's not to say that selling props. is a bad idea or you can't make a business that way. I've just decided to take a different route. Sure. Yeah, and that's my entire point that you can go that route if you want to. Like today, I would never get a cease and desist from D.C. saying,

don't draw these fat heroes. They wouldn't do it today. Why? Because back then, I wasn't even selling them. That wasn't even the point. The point was just, hey, I drew some stuff. Check this out. I put it up on the web.

And then they freaked out. That's back when they didn't. No one understood the internet, least of which big corporations with guys in Sue. they didn't understand. So to them it was like, oh my gosh, people are putting drawings of our stuff.

That's only supposed to be in our comic books. I don't understand. Right, exactly. I wasn't making a dime. We were supposed to be able to do Keros. Yeah.

Right. Now you might say, well, you gain notoriety from it or you gain or you gain or whatever. You can get really into the nitty-gritty about what you gain

or don't gain by creating art around that type of stuff. But these days, it's flipped. They all, for the most part, not all of them, Nintendo's still notoriously bad,

but most companies in gaming, in pop culture, sort the comic book companies, they know that when this stuff happens around the community, it does nothing but boister their brands. It helps them to have this kind of excitement and this level of creativity around the stuff that is their brand. Because people still know that, yeah, I can laugh at Scott's Fat Heroes, but I'm going to read the comics over here on DC's app and buy it. Like they're going to spend money there. This is just all stuff that

helps boister it around it. So it's really good that those changes have happened, but it's still nebulous. It is nebulous. Like nothing's on paper, right? Right. And it's less about deciding whether the thing you want to do is legal or illegal or whatever. It's more about gauging, like I said, how risky doing it might be. Right. And I want to be super clear, if you're making art of any kind and you are not charging money for it, if you were giving it out for free, then you're good. You're fine. It's when you want money for it that you fall in, you get into trouble. Here are a couple of things

that making it more risk, that make it more risky. If I'm selling props and I'm selling a lot of them. If I'm selling like a dozen, probably no one's going to care. But if it seems clear that I'm trying to sell hundreds of copies, that's going to be a huge red flag.

Also, marketing your unlicensed products aggressively, like I've seen Facebook promoted ads for what I know are unlicensed products. And I'm sure this happens all the time with all kinds of products. But that's a great way to get your unlicensed products to show up in the front of a lawyer for DC or Marvel or whatever, right? Huh.

Are we, I got an ad on Facebook here for these Star Lord helmets. Are we selling these? Are we saying, is this us? Yeah. But also, the thing I've seen the most is being a jerk about it. If you get caught, I've seen people get caught selling stuff online that they don't have a license for and then they make a huge ranty post on the internet complaining about it. I'm like, no, these are companies that you could potentially work for. You could potentially work out a licensing deal.

And I've had friends who have done that. They've worked out licensing deals with companies that have video games to sell their products completely above board. if you want to pursue that just be aware that the company may say no and they may not have you a reason and they don't have to also they may say our license is incredibly expensive like if you want a marvel license I think it's like a hundred grand a year up front oh yeah it's bad so just be aware of that that there is a legal way to get a license it may not work for you and then like we mentioned before I don't make props anymore I make videos And so far no one has asked me to stop making my videos using items from their IPs. So that's kind of, there are a lot of reasons why I do that, but that's kind of where I ended up in this whole thing. How I make it work for me and my company and I can go to sleep, not feeling like I'm making too big of a risk. Yeah. And not only that, you, you know, again, even though it's nebulous.

It's like, to me, this is akin to like, you do all the stuff you can to comply the best you can, but then fair use kicks in at some point. And it reminds me how Brian has to. be careful around music, so what does he do? He pays these fees every year to have the legal right to play his covers and to play music on this show and his, all his other shows. Like, that's a thing that Brian makes sure he's covered on. Even then, YouTube doesn't care. They go, we don't have a way to check that.

Because it's a lot easier for them not to care and just have a blame. Yeah. Sounds like there's music and this one matches with this. Okay. Yeah. Or, or, or Twitch for that matter. They don't have a way. So that's why we don't play them live on the show anymore.

but people who get the podcast get all the music. Why? Well, that's a medium where there's no single platform controlling it and therefore being chicken about DMCA and if anyone ever says anything if a band says, no, wait a minute, we can say, oh, no, he pays his ass cap, he does this thing, so we have this like little paper trail.

Imagine that weird complication, but then just spread it over the entire internet. That's where we're at. Like Twitch exists, for example, as a service that primarily streams video games. it's only because none of those companies or 99% of those companies are enforcing anything. If they wanted to, they could. But they also know that the PR from enforcing that would ruin them.

They know that streamers bring them massive amounts of business and maximum amounts of notoriety and word of mouth that they can't get in any other avenue and as cheap as it is that advertising is incredibly inexpensive for them. It's, well, it's virtually cost them nothing. So they give games to people to say, please stream this. I get codes all the time saying, please stream our game. Like, that's the state of it. But technically the paperwork on it, all of this could they could all of a sudden just all decide, nope, we're shutting it down. Can't steam our shit anymore.

We're all agreeing to do it. And the entire business model of Twitch falls out from underneath it. Like, that's just the way it is. So you're talking about a form of that. It's just a version of that. And it's good where things are at. Like, I actually think we're in a really positive place right now. It's a few things wrong.

It's a stalemate. It's a mutually assured destructive stalemate. Yeah, kind of, yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, I love that. That's a great question, though. I just, I love this sort of part of this stuff.

It's funny that the thing I, we actually get copyright issues with is getting copyright claims for music we use in our YouTube videos for music that we've paid for. Like, we use art lists. I'm not promoting them. I don't have a... They're fine. I don't have a... They're not a sponsor or anything.

But we use them pay for art list. And even so, even though we have the license to use that music, everyone's a while we get a strike, not a strike, but a claim on our YouTube channel. It's like, uh, that's a copyrighted song. And we're like, oh, we paid for it. Thank you very much. Nicole and Mark had the same...

Oh, it happens all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, they had freaking Metallica performed their own song live on. Twitch and got replaced with like chip tune music. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. So yeah, the people try it hard to do it

the right way sometimes end up getting a hose by it. Yeah. We're in a pretty good stalemate right now. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, you're right. It's a good way of looking at it. Everyone's got nukes and they're different kind of nukes, different effects, but nobody wants to nobody wants to pull the trigger or push that button and that's probably good. Except the music industry. They want to push it

every day. Oh, they're firing nukes every other five minutes. Just beep, beep, beep, beep. Do you want to play a game? They keep hearing in their heads. Anyway, Bill, this has been great. I love this stuff. And if you want to see more of what, of course, Bill's doing, it's over on his website.

In the meantime, you probably have a little bonus link this weekend or this week. I do. Brittany and I've been playing a lot of Valheim. A lot of Valhound. Oh, my God. And I found this YouTube channel. He goes by Vet Live, V-E-T-L-I-V-E-E-T-L-E-E-E. and this person's been making

buildings in Valheim and filming it as like really cool time lapse videos and architecting these really grand buildings in a Valheim so if you look up the Valheim Swamp Treehouse on

on YouTube you'll find it so we had to build like a scaffolding to get up to the top of the tree where he wanted to build his house and then he built this giant elaborate tree house in Valheim. Yeah. It's so cool.

Yeah, I kind of... My house in Valheim is so pathetic. Somebody recreated all of stormwind I saw recently. Oh my God, I need to look that up. Yeah. And you can and it's not as easy as it sounds. This isn't Minecraft or stuff can float. Like you got a you got to like attach to that tree. Oh my

God. This is amazing. I'm looking up the stormwind harbor. Yeah. There's a bunch of stuff like that. You can find the Eiffel Tower somewhere. I'm watching. So he's building this thing and I'm watching him build the structure up on the tree and he didn't have enough supports on part of it and part of it just fell down on the ground. The game is limited by some of its physics and it's very funny that way.

The one thing I do wish this game did because I find all the survival part kind of tedious, but I'm just not a survival game guy. This probably does it better than anyone right now. So, you know, it's not a complaint. I just don't like that stuff generally. but I wish it had a creative mode and they may still, it's in early access, so at some point maybe they'll just go full creative mode in here.

But I love doing that. Just give me unlimited resources and let me just build crazy shit. I would love to do that. And then you'll start to see crazy stuff. Like you think Minecraft had some insane builds, like all of Azaroff. Just imagine that happening here. At least dropping wood like left and right, that poor guy.

Yeah, I try, first thing I did, I tried to build a lighthouse. out of wood and and once it was like three or four stories tall it just if i try to build it a higher would fall down i'm like oh that's probably what you have to worry about with real houses huh yeah yeah it's uh where is though they would just fell off the side of that thing yep but more would yeah you're at exactly where scott and i are uh you can't he can't get that wheel down he's just having the hardest time right doors keep falling off the side um yeah why is there no structure connecting it to the ground first and then going from there but this is amazing yeah it's um it dice to man is like well how can this this isn't a creative type game well i completely disagree any of these games you just make

unlimited resources and people go to town that's what a creative mode is every every building slash survival game i know of has that mode and it's just a nice thing for players who aren't into the whole grind of you know whatever i not again this is not going to be for everybody but for me, I just want to build shit. So let me build it down. Yeah, I've been getting the it's to play. We did Minecraft last year a whole bunch survival mode and everything, but I've been getting the itch to try that out.

Creative mode? I've never done that. Oh, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, just go in there with unlimited everything and build whatever you want. Our old pal, Daryl did that with, was the Enterprise. Yeah. That was pretty cool. And the new, so the new version of Minecraft that supports RtX

video card, ray tracing and stuff. unbelievably cool it's one of the coolest things yeah yeah so i may have to mess around with that too because i don't know the thing i like about valheim's building other than the working up you know resource management of it which is again not my favorite thing but uh the thing i like about it is everything looks very organic like real structures um that looks like grass on the roof and that's that together and that looks like wood planks that he's putting down and i don't know there's something something about that that intrigues me more than just the voxel sort of cubes that are that are Minecraft but but anyway uh go check it out cool channel uh valheim swamp tree house is what

you want to search for i just show the chat a lot of it and uh it's basically a speed run of building this thing and he's an insane he's got a lot more too yeah what i want to know is how's he oh he's probably got a friend watching and filming this i bet and i wonder if there's a mod too to film stuff. Oh, there might be. I think there's mod support now. I'm not sure. That game is a ridiculous success. It's insane. What they've done. Anyway, Bill Duran, everybody. He is

PunishProps.com's own Bill Duran. You can find them on Twitter at Chinbeard. That's because he has a beard on his chin. Yeah, I do. Right there. Yeah, it's fantastic. Keep that thing nice and groomed and we'll see you next time, Bill. Bye now. All right. Toodle.

Toot. When he said, Toot. Tootle. Just watching this little guy. Tootles. I can tell this took this dude a long time. See, this is what I don't have time for because what you're seeing is the build time. What you're not seeing is all the time you had to spend getting the resources. It's a beast.

Yeah, and we're seeing a high-speed version of the build time, too. Like we're seeing a time lapse. Yeah. So if it were me and I were them, and now they have all the money in the world, creative mode. Boom, done. You got my money. I already bought your game, but add it and I'll update it. Okay.

What are we doing now? We got, oh, I wanted to do some quick spoiler talk. Now, if you didn't see it, there's not much to spoil here, honestly. First episode was a lot of character reintroduction and sort of, you know, where are they now and stuff like that. But we saw Winter Soldier. Do we have a theme for this? Let's see. Here, we'll do this.

Oh, for whatever reason, I didn't hear that we didn't have Stephen today. Yeah, he's not here today. He's, uh... Gotcha. Okay. Well, then ignore my other things that I put in there. Yeah, he took, he, uh, I can't remember what he had. had a kid appointment or something.

So he was sad. He said that for the next time, Steven's on. Fantastic. What? All right. So that's a guy asking what spoilers are we going to talk about. So there aren't a ton, but I guess I'll say top of the conversation here. I really, really liked Falcon of the Winter Soldier episode one because I feel like it established

what this is going to be and what this is going to be is a lot like the Winter Soldier movie in terms of tone and intrigue and military. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, very different feel, right off the bat, very different feel than Wanda Vision, right? You know, Wanda Vision, slightly tongue-in-cheek, a little comedy with a little bit of weird mystery, which became more and more the theme as it got to the end. This one just feels like it's going to be a Jack Reacher, not Jack Reacher.

What kind of Jack Reacher, but who am I thinking of the Tom Clancy? Oh, Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan, thank you. A Jack Ryan kind of thing with superheroes. Yeah, I agree. is the vibe I'm getting. Even that, like, the closing credits are very reminiscent of the Winter Soldier film, which was like a 70 spy thriller dressed up like a superhero movie,

still my favorite MCU movie. And this is that tone. And I'm all into it. It's like, it's a little like the comics. Like Wanda Vision was like the cosmic universe and magic and had that tone. And this is on the ground. Dirty, dirty knees and ugly trees. Like, let's go.

Let's fight, right? so it's really great i can't say enough about how excited i am for the sebastian stan side of things because i just think he plays that the winter soldier role so well and so like um i don't know i don't know what to call it he's he just he isn't just emo he's tormented he's tormented and in a way that feels legitimate and real my favorite gift going around is this a shot for from Endgame where, okay, so in this first episode, you spent a lot of time with Winter Soldier in therapy, with ordered, required government therapy

because he's dealt with a lot. He was a tool of Hydra for so long and blah, blah, blah, right? I've done some terrible stuff. And he's just having a hard time dealing with it. So he's in therapy. And I saw this gift of him in Endgame spinning around, metal arm out here with a gun, do, do, do, do, do.

Other arm holding Rocket Raccoon and Rocket Raccoon. Oh, yeah. And it says below, do you think Winter Soldier talked, or, yeah, do you think Winter Soldier, or do you think Bucky talked to his, uh, his, uh, is a, or his, uh, therapist about this moment or whatever, like, like, just a really funny juxtaposition of carrying a rocket or rocket around. He was holding a raccoon that was firing a gun and, uh, yeah, like that's your, that's your really dark moments, you know, to tell your therapist. But anyway, uh, sorry, Claire, I was choking on my own words here, but.

Anyway, it is really good. It's great. Yeah, it's good setup. We still don't have anything with Agent 13 or Barrenzimo yet. I really want to see how they pull off. You know, I've seen photos, but I want to see how they pull off the purple ski mask that Barronzimo wears. Yeah, like that's pretty cool. Did you see that I was in the, I was in the vanishing list?

Here, I'll send you a text. It's obviously not me, but my name's on that. Right, but there was a Scott Johnson in the list. Yeah, I just sent you a text. You can see it. It's right. Don Chito's head right there. Oh, look at that.

Oh, that's hilarious. But anyway, the point is, the ending has thrown a few people, and my wife, we're sitting there, and Kim goes. Uh-huh. Okay, so basically the way, and again, there's a little bit of a spoiler. Not really, though, because we don't know anything about what's going on yet. But at the end, the government has installed somebody new in the suit, giving him the shield, a new Captain America shows up on the steps of the Capitol or wherever the heck they are.

And he shows up and my wife goes, wait a minute. I go what? She goes, is that just them youngifying? What's his name again? I said, what do you mean? She goes, that looks like, she couldn't remember his name. Oh, Chris Evans. Not even that. She goes, that looks like, that looks like Guardians of the Galaxy,

uh, Kurt Russell. Oh. But youngified. Kind of, yeah, right? And I said, oh, yeah, it kind of does. And then the credits roll, and we find out that that's Wyatt Russell, his son. It's Wyatt Russell, yeah.

Think of that. I could not even make the connection that it's Wyatt or that Kurt Russell's son Wyatt. Oh, that's hilarious. So he looks a little goofy in that helmet. Yeah, he totally does. And I think that's, you know, that's part of the thing as to, it's like what they did with Iron Patriot, you know, when, um, the government wanted their own Ironman kind of thing. So it's like, all right, we're

getting our own Captain America. This guy fits the suit. Let's have him do it. Yep. And if I was Falcon, I'd be Falcon at one side is like, I don't want the shield. It's not for me. It was never for me. And I know that Steve wanted me to take it and take up the role, but I just

can't do it. So we're going to put it under glass. But then the government, being the government dicks that they are like, nah, we're taking it out giving it to another guy. And how that all is going to play out. knows, and who knows who White Russell is supposed to be. By the way, you still need to see how was the name of the show he did, Wyatt Russell, on Lodge 49, on AMC.

Great show. Just a really sweet show about a guy who finds a, like a Elks Lodge kind of place and becomes a member. And so many great actors on there that you know and love. Cheech is on there. And who is? Is it, let's see. Cheech Marin? Yeah, Cheech Marin.

Brian Doyle Murray. I don't know why I had to clarify who the Cheech was you were referring to. Right. There's only one Cheech. Cheech Marin? Cheech Marin. Brent Jennings, who you know by face more than you probably know by name. Such a sweet show.

Oh, Adam Godley, who's the guy that we always talk about whose ears come straight out British, British actor. Yeah. Anyway, that shows so good. But I don't know the history behind. I never read any of the U.S. agent comics. So this is something where I'm going to kind of get a little bit of an education. At least the MCU version of the education of where U.S. agent's history comes from. Yeah, I don't know any of that history either.

John Walker slash U.S. agent is the character they have listed in IMDB. I saw him most recently in that Overlord movie. It was the Nazis made zombies. Castle Wolfenstein made into a movie basically. Basically, yeah. He was very good in it. but he is so quickly recognizable as the offspring of Kurt Russell that my wife full on called it through the mask and everything.

Yeah, I did not pick up on that. I completely forgot about that. Anyway, it's like we say, not much else to say about it, except I will say, I think the backstory of Falcon's sister and what's going on in Louisiana and him trying to balance this, you know, Avengers role, but him being gone for five years and the vanishing and all this stuff, stuff is really great.

Like, they're really pulling me into that and making me interested in that conflict, in that backstory and that family dynamic, didn't expect that. And those two haven't even met yet. Like, the Winter Soldier and Falcon haven't even talked. No, that's true, yeah. They're still dealing with their own shit, but they'll eventually, they made some reference about how one of them wouldn't return the other one's text or something. Did you watch any of the Marvel Legends stuff beforehand?

the four little short vignettes that introduce you, reintroduce you to the characters. No, I should probably, right? Those are great, yeah. And Tina loved it. Like, basically, this was what Tina said at the end of it. Oh, yeah, I totally needed this. Because basically, it's like five or six minute vignettes for each of the four main characters,

Zemo, Agent 13, and then Falcon Winter Soldier, that compile a lot of their previous MCU appearances, basically the key appearances for those characters. characters. You know, Sam running around Washington and getting lapped on your left, on your left by Steve Rogers as they're jogging and the two of their friendships developing and, and that's on Disney Plus as well? I can just watch those? It's on Disney Plus.

Okay. Marvel Legends. And he gives, hey, if nothing else, have you and Kim watch the, you and Kim watch the, you and Kim watch the Baron Zemo and Agent 13 ones to give you guys refresh your memories on the backgrounds between those. Yeah, I will definitely watch. But Kim, Kim loved this. So that more of that is great because we really got into it.

And finally, like Wanda Vision was all staggered with Carter's ability to watch it because she had late night classes when we watched it. And not this time. She got to sit and watch it with us. So now she's in. So we're just really, really looking forward to this series playing out. It's so funny that I let Wanda Vision stack up, but this one I'm not willing to. Like, I'm going to watch it the minute it comes out and something.

I think there's going to be less surprisey kind of stuff in this. Yeah. I mean, we're still going to get the... Who did we get? We had Batht Rock. No, was it Batht Rock? Yeah, the Batht Rock, the Leaper with the... Oh, right.

From Black Panther. Right. You had to explain that to me once because I didn't know who that was or what that was. Yeah. Yeah. George St. Pierre. Right. The dude with the crazy kicks.

Yeah. Yeah, he was cool. There is a character I wasn't expecting. to see in this thing, but it looks like he's going to be the thing that leads them. A Winter Soldier, he was in the Winter Soldier movie, that's right.

Yeah, Colo, Ulysses Claw was the one from Black Panther. I didn't know we were going to see Don Chito in the premiere. No, right, I know. That was a surprise, too. That was cool. That just made me feel right at home.

I was like, oh, this is, we're in the MCU here. Like, and that's the other thing. Spared no expense on the effects of that fight in the canyon. And that looked amazing, all of it. Yeah. Oh, absolutely did. Like right out of the movies. I said, there's a point to a movie that doesn't look as good as this.

Like, that looks better than this because this looks just as good as any of the guy. Like, it was such, that stuff was awesome. And, but again, all the personal down-to-earth stuff was great. It's just, it's shaping up, man. I'm very excited. And in the credits, you get to see Agent 13. And then it reminds you, oh, yeah, that's all coming. Okay, cool.

Yeah. So anyway, we'll see. I like her a lot. I do, too. Emily Van Camp is her name? Uh-huh. Yep. She's a, she's a cutie.

All right. There's our spoilery, not really very many spoilers, but there's our discussion about Winter Soldier. There's not much to spoil in that first episode. No, there's not a big hang. You know, it's a little like the first Wanda Vision. There's not a lot to spoil there either, other than the premise, which is, oh, they're in a sitcom for some reason, and that's about all you get. Right. But, yeah, I hope there's more roadie.

I hope there's some other crossover. I wondered, remember a few months ago, rumors were flying that Chris Evans was going to appear in either this or Wander Vision. Maybe what they meant was this. It was a fan boy hopes that that was going to have. Well, maybe they meant this with the big picture of his face. Maybe that's what they meant.

Because he seemed confused. He was like, not that I'm aware of. Right, yeah, it was Chris Evans actually talking about it, wasn't it? Yeah. So maybe it was his big face in that. memorial that they referred to because they do have a giant Chris Evans face in this first episode.

If you miss Chris Evans, let me just say. His whole face is in it. So watch it. All right. Brian, I'm going to play a Monday morning mashup. TMS mashups, Jamie got a little busy and could not do a regular one, so we're using one of his bonus ones.

Works just the same for me. It's called balls naked. Okay? Balls naked. Balls naked, which is something I don't remember either of us saying. but now we'll find out how that came up when I hit play. 50-year-old podcasters.

Holy shit. No one does that. Look at what Justin Bieber did today. Jason Bieber. I love that Jason Bieber. When he was young, he was such a troublemaker. Who would have ever thought he'd grow up to be Prime Minister of Canada? Right.

Hey, that was about the time I was getting sick of podcasting, and he came back. I was so good looking when I was younger. You know, Ed Bancroft? Yeah. I hit that. Oh, who did you now? Paul Newman was a butthole. Damn it, you piece that bird.

You bird shit bastard. Look at him. He's just looking at me in the front window. Government's not going to help me. I can see him. I'm going to lose all my money unless I turn it into gold. I'm never going to get this catheter tube inserted without some lubricant. What do I do?

No. Okay, now what? We've seen every film ever made. My biggest complaint about this film was that it was too loud. I didn't understand any of it. I had to pee eight times during this. Back in my day, I had my own nipples. Oh, I'm getting them from the machine.

That makes no sense to me. Where are my pills? It's too loud. I started watching that straight out of Compton. It was too loud for me. My hearing's bad as it is. An ice cube is kind of a dick This internet thing's not going to last

They're going to come crawling back And what's the first letter They're going to look for A MC is what they're going to look for I don't know what this better call Saul is But it's making this money So keep making whatever that is Wait a minute, that's Lenny

From Laverne and Shirley What's he doing on here? Why is he afraid of outside? Why not just pull down to your bears And knuckle it up, you know? Do they need to get naked? Well, you know, just shirts off. Good old-fashioned.

What kind of, I mean, listen, I know that you guys out in the mountain west have your own frontier spirit. But I didn't know everybody had to get balls naked. There's only one way we can solve this. That's because neither of us said it. It was not us. Right. Yeah. It was that.

Here from the gerbs. Yeah, the gerbs said it. All right, that was fantastic. You know, it's funny, you compare the old man voice to the way I used to do it way back. It's not even close. Listen to this. I have one here. Oh, no, I don't have it.

Do I? Oh, that sucks. All right, never mind. My condom is an old fish line from T-N-R-E-L-R. I can't find it suddenly, but that's your example of me doing an old man-voice, and it's just not the same thing. The old, old-old-man voice. Yeah, the old-old-man voice.

I think we've got a pretty good one going. This is how we're going to sound in not too many years, you guys. We're basically podcasting Statler and Waldorf in this thing. Yeah, there you go. up in our balcony on high. Speaking of which, if you want to help us stay up there in that balcony, you can contribute to our balcony at patreon.com slash TMS. And as always, frogpants.com slash TMS.

We'll have that link and everything else you may need to know for the show. That's going to do it for us. Brian, we should play a song. Do you have when we can play? I do. Dylan wrote in, said, hey there, spaghetti and baloney. No real reason for this request. Other than I want to say hi and hear this cool post Malone cover on

the show. Brian, can you please ask Scott? I love when they do this. Like, I'm your, assistant. Brian, can you please ask Scott if there'll be more to his series of playing Little Nightmares, too? I've been absolutely loving it. The answer is yes. Probably this week, too. I just have been not in a place where a scary game is in the, I just haven't been in the mood. But I'm coming back. We're going to finish it. Okay. So yes, I'm coming back. So this week, Let's say this week sometime. I don't have a specific time, but I'll play it this week. All right?

There you go. Okay, good. Now, just sit in the waiting room, Dylan, and I'll let you know when you can get in to see Scott. All right. He says, stay safe. Or, no, sorry, he says, say safe and try not to get the chaff. Oh, the chaff. We haven't played the chaff.

I haven't played the chaff. All right, hold on. We're playing the chaff. Oh, geez. I have it here. I know. Okay, here we go. I have the chaff.

There you go. that's a great one all right the track that he's talking about is part of the new 25th anniversary of Pokemon yes that's right Pokemon is celebrating the 25th anniversary and they're doing a whole bunch of things

throughout the card game throughout the video games and throughout Pokemon Go they even tapped Post Malone on the shoulder to cover Hootie and the Blowfish only want to be with you for whatever reason

I'm thinking that the original hooty version the title was only want to be with the letter B with you, but I might be remembering that incorrectly. I don't remember that. But only want to be with you by hooting the blowfish covered here

by Post Malone. I will say it's been on repeat in this house because my wife loves Post Malone. It's good. And I still feel like there's some weird auto-tuning stuff going on, but I think it is just the Post Malone like that. He likes to do his weird little wiggly thing in the high range. Weird vibrato.

Yeah, it's weird. But we like him. And here it is. We'll be back tomorrow with more show. So come on back. now, you hear? This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. You lose when you're caught.