The Morning Stream - TMS 2093: The One Shatner Boinked

Episode Date: April 5, 2021

Get your second jab, then lick a toilet. Standard Ass Borg. Squeeze Out A Few Chits. I don't like NFTeeeeeeeees. Greg is off limits! Too many Shia Labeouf's. Virtual Bovine Lactation. Arbor Day Turkey...! To Catch a Covid Variant. we named the cat Ripley. You Can OWN Utah Connection! Butt Cheeks 6 Inches Off the Ground with Bill. Filling Brian's Game Hole. Going Mile High with Stephen and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wait, are you gaming on a Chromebook? Yeah, it's got a high-res 120-hertz display, plus this killer RGB keyboard, and I can access thousands of games anytime, anywhere. Stop playing. What? Get out of here. Huh? Yeah, I want you to stop playing and get out of here, so I can game on that Chromebook.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Got it. Discover the Ultimate Cloud Gaming Machine, a new kind of Chromebook. Coming up on TMS, get your second jab, then lick a toilet. Standard Ask Borg. Squeeze out a few chits. I don't like NFTs. Greg is off limits. Too many shy le buffs.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Virtual bovine lactation. Arbiday Turkey. To catch a COVID variant. We named the cat Ripley. You can own Utah Connection. But cheeks six inches off the ground with Bill. Filling Brian's game hole. Going mile high with Stephen and more on this PG-rated episode.
Starting point is 00:01:00 episode of The Morning Stream. You must recover all the energy immediately, Mega Man. But where is Dr. Wiley? That's a good question. We may be able to locate another energy emission from the radar room. When we find that media, we'll find Dr. Wally. We did it. We deactivated the bomb.
Starting point is 00:01:30 This is the morning stream. It's just what the doctor ordered. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, April 5th, 2021. Feels like the whole first part of April's already gone because it was a weekend. You know what I mean? Because normally it'd be like, hey, it's...
Starting point is 00:01:55 Instead of looking at how much of April's gone. Let's look at how much is left. Yeah, but it's... gone so fast. Look at that. Five days. Burned. Like a thermite explosion gone out. Oh, man. Yeah. I feel like we just had March. But I guess that's just the way of it. Less than five, less than five days ago we had March. Yeah, we did have March. But now we have April. So welcome everybody. Happy post-Easter. Hope your Easter was good. Ours was all right. We had a big brined turkey. Oh, cool. Do the turkey on Easter. Yeah. Kim made a
Starting point is 00:02:30 It was very good. Usually the Easter ham is a common thing, but it was very good. Turkey all year, Brian. Anytime you got an event. Every holiday should be turkey. Yep, I agree. And right now. The old Arbor Day turkey, time for a little Arbor Day turkey celebration.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah, there's a whole turkey in the fridge, which means, or not a whole turkey, like half a turkey, which means I get all sorts of sandwichy things all week and, you know, turkey whenever I want it. It feels like Thanksgiving, honestly, in the house. So that was nice. We went over to Tina's parents' house. and had ham, and basically three and a half of us vaccinated. I'm the half. Everybody else has had both shots, and it's been over two weeks for all three of them.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So I was the weakest link, basically. Yeah, if anyone's getting it, it's you. That's right, exactly. I don't know what, you know, after one shot, I know you got your shot, the second shot coming up here. But I don't know what your percentage is or any of that stuff after the first shot. So I read that, I read up on this. The Pfizer is at like 54% or something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So not great, but okay. Better than zero. Way better than zero. The Moderna was something like 80, 85. Oh, wow. Okay. And the, so that's the high one. And then Johnson and Johnson, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, Johnson and Johnson, you only get one shot. So it's. Oh, yeah. So I don't know how that one were. I assume that thing is like right away you're good. I don't know. I have no idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Well, two weeks after they say, but yeah. Yeah. So you're, so you're, what do you call it? Your Pfizer, which you and I got. No, I had the Moderna. Oh, you had Moderna. Then you're at 85. Well done.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah. If what I read is correct. I'm going to go lick a door knob. Yeah, you've got pretty good. You've got pretty good odds that you'll be okay. In the downtown 7-Eleven. Yeah. I bet you I don't get COVID, but I bet that's not.
Starting point is 00:04:27 That's not the worst thing I get. So I get my second on Friday and a little nervous about it because I'd like to have film sac and TWBD go off without a hitch. And I'm a little concerned that that's not going to happen. So we'll see. Like, maybe we'll shift to Sunday or something, but nervous about that second one, man. It's the afternoon you're getting it, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's definitely. It'll be after the instance or won't change. 12, 12, 31, something like that? Oh, yeah, yeah, it should be right. Or it might be right during the instance, actually. I got to figure that. So, uh, TMSPM. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Well, actually, no, usually like right after the shot, you're fine. Oh, yeah, yeah. I suspect it would be like six, seven hours before I start to feel anything rotten, so. That's right, exactly. We'll get the last vestiges of Scott, uh, upright and, uh, bright eyed and bushy-tailed. That's right. That's right. For his long decline into madness.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The, uh, the other thing I didn't like reading this morning, I guess is there. that there's some variants that are getting kids now. Oh, really? Yeah, I forgot the name of it, but it's some kind of variant that specifically goes after young folk, whereas the current COVID mainstream virus doesn't seem to care as much about the youngs. And so that could be weird. Golly. Yeah, I've got to figure that out.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's like Borg Shields. It's a constantly moving target, and we have to keep readjusting our phasers to be able to get through. Oh, my gosh. I've been playing too much of that. that's Star Trek. I haven't even started. All right, so tell me this. Is it just basically the like 3V3 or 5B5, 5V5, just like that's the Marvel Strike Force, the Star Wars one, the DC one?
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's 100% that. Okay. What it is, what makes it different. So I'll say it's 90% that. Okay. The remaining 10%, which is microtransactions and cool down timers and all that bullshit you have to deal with, they took all that stuff's not in there so it's just play the game and so if you like those games but always hated the 50 currencies and you know best deal right now 99 bucks and get right
Starting point is 00:06:37 200 coins or whatever all none of that's in there so you're just you're just playing the game it also doesn't have as far as I know I'm not if maybe it does later but I'm not there yet where it has any kind of auto play feature you just you just have to be strategic and play so I like that kind of like that, yep. And it's really detailed, like animation-wise, character-wise, like there's a real quality of life improvement to just how it looks. So the only way to get, like, rare and uncommon characters is to just hope you get them, right? Like, you earn the, what, the pieces, the shards or whatever it is to get them.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Right, right, you get these. So the concept is the nexus is back, remember from, uh, Uh-huh. That's the one that Shatner blinked into. Yeah, the space ribbon. And the whole story is that Shatner's actually, somebody's got Kirk. And you're trying to get him back. And you start out as Michael Burnham. You're in the discovery time.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oh, really? Yeah. She's your first character that you get. She's pretty good, actually. Uh, and then you get it caught into this whole, this whole nexus business. And now suddenly it's a free for all from all the generations who gets to work together. So I'm currently, it's currently Michael Burnham, Wharf is my tank. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I have a Borg, just some standard-ass Borg I've leveled up. Borg dude. And then who's my other person? Oh, Dr. McCoy. I've Leonard McCoy. Doing all my healing and stuff. And so you have this really weird mix of characters from different generations. And the initial stuff, you're going to have those same characters to start off with.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like the campaign, you know, is sort of storied around these first three people of least the Borg is, you know, different, but as you keep going, you start to unlock new ones, and they come pretty quick, like pretty fast and furious. You're getting new characters. And sometimes they're rare. I got a Riker, super rare. I saw it in Twitter. You got a Riker, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Six in the morning or four in the morning or something. Something like that, yeah. By the way, the game's Star Trek Legends, by the way. I know people in that are, we haven't said the name. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Star Trek Legends, it's an Apple Arcade thing that just came out. Apple Arcade kind of out of nowhere on the second
Starting point is 00:08:55 put up like hundreds of new games and some of them are brand new like this one a whole bunch of them actually and then there's a bunch of like remaster hey remember cut the rope we've got a remastered cut the rope and yeah Fruit Ninja remastered I picked up threes
Starting point is 00:09:12 remastered there's really nothing remastered about it it's not like oh better graphics on threes no it basically fills your whole screen now where it used to have the old the old crop or whatever which I'm fine with that actually
Starting point is 00:09:27 I was like all right good I like I'm good with that yeah and these were all apps that cost money before now they're just part of the service so you just you just play them but what I I've always wanted at least I think I've always wanted one of these games where it's like
Starting point is 00:09:40 four on four five on five whatever turn based you know RPG mechanics level up your characters like in theory I'm all over that thing I'm all over that thing in theory I love it it, but they're so mired in free-to-play garbage that it's always ruined it from me.
Starting point is 00:09:58 You mean the free-to-play micro-transaction. Yeah, that's what I mean. There's like any time they're free to play, they're garbage because they have all that stuff in them. And I don't want that. I hate it. I hate that stuff. And it just ruins the entire experience. This thing is like a major brand, really polished, all the stuff you want on that side.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And on the other side, none of the poop. So I got really hooked on it because nothing's standing in my way. It's just like, play the game or don't play the game. You have a choice now. It's no longer play the game or spend money to extend timers or to have characters or buy packs or any of that. You don't do any of that. There's a store, but it's all in-game currency that you have to earn. And Strike Force was like that.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You could do a lot free to play. I mean, you'd still get the prompts. Every time you logged in, you get a little prompt that said, hey, if you want some such and such credits, you can pay this amount. but there was a lot of a lot of free to play I finally got out of it wrestled it like basically broke free of the game this last weekend and it wasn't because of the game itself like I was ready to leave this game
Starting point is 00:11:03 in March early March but I was managing an alliance and because there's all of this stuff that requires a 24 person team you've got wars you've got PVP you've got raids that have to be completed, stuff like that. A, that felt like a job to me, and I was like really getting tired of that job, so I quit. But B, me leaving meant that there was this, you know, big gap that needed to be filled.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So we had to wait until there was another player that could come in there and fill that job. So they've been recruiting and trying to find someone who can step in to fill my spot while another player moved into the leadership role. and so like I was done with the game a month ago but I couldn't leave the alliance until we had a replacement that's crazy well I'm glad so you have the thought of like oh good so Star Trek is a game just like that great I can great all right cool no thanks I mean if if I were you I would try to play I'd play the casual part of it and and do some contrast and compare it could be fun just to see what the differences are could be but I wouldn't aim for like ultimate I want to run the alliance in this game or any of that yeah Yeah, yeah, and I'm done with that kind of stuff. And like I said, the microtransactions of MSF didn't bother me at all. You could just ignore them, and you could still do really well in the game without that stuff. It was the fact that they just kept adding play modes to this thing.
Starting point is 00:12:31 How about Arena? And then we're going to have a war that happens three times a week and this and that. And the problem is they, that's what they used to get you credits and bonus stuff. If you weren't paying for it, you earned it by doing all those things. So all of a sudden, you, like, you logged in and you had to do basically 45 minutes worth of this and that and this and the other thing to be able to earn enough credits to do stuff without spending any money. Did you ever spend any money in there? Did you ever spend any money in there? Any dollars? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Oh, I did. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Early on I did and over the course of the game, I spent some money. But this year, maybe $2.99. credit deals because it's like
Starting point is 00:13:19 I'm just getting tired of this thing yeah yeah it sounds like it was waning so yeah I don't think you're gonna get you you play that genre so hard that I think
Starting point is 00:13:30 this may not be a thing for you for those of us who are always just sort of put off by the veneer of free to play and the veneer of freaking micro transaction bullshit this was a nice this is a nice escape from that
Starting point is 00:13:43 so we're worthy of your time I think but there's a ton of in there. I'll give it a shot. I'll install it. I'll try it out. And if it feels like, I feel like I'm carterized to that sort of thing now. So it's like as soon as I feel like, nope, this is starting to feel like we're goodbye. Yeah. See you later. There is, what was I going to say? Oh, there's so many new games in that lineup. We're probably going to have a lot of content for apps lappy moving in the future. But we'll let you guys know. We'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Oh, yeah. Right. Exactly. Now, some of you. I did get a couple of new things from Apple Arcade with all the games they brought in. I did as well, although I haven't had time to play anything else. It's just been like, oh, I did play a little bit of that guy. There's a new game by the creator of the original Final Fantasy called Fan, not Fantasia. It's like Phanasia or some name like that. What's cool about it, it's a turn-based JRP, and again, because it's a straight-up premium game, there's no micro-crap.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's just to play it. And it's full of story and all kinds of, I think. original music composer for all the Final Fantasy music did the score and everything. So there's a lot of pedigree there. But what makes it unique is all of the backgrounds and all of the stages are actual hand-built diaramas, but then digitized and made 3D. So it looks like you're playing in somebody's homemade little 3D-printed little thing. We talked about a game that was similar to this, had more of a cartoony feel.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm looking at this, Fantasian is the name of this. This game. Cartesian, that's it. Oh, it looks just amazing. But there was one that we talked about on App Slappy. It feels like years ago. And it might have been years ago. Yes, Luminocity.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But Luminocity was that same thing. We had all these really cool platforms all handmade. Oh, so clever. That stuff's awesome. And this looks really good. So far, seems pretty good. But, man, if you don't like Final Fantasy and JRP's, then don't play this. because this is exactly what that is, but it's got a good pedigree, so probably worth
Starting point is 00:15:50 I like that there's one screen on here that's just a pile of rocks, taking a photo with tilt shift, with little people walking around it. It's like, all right, this is great. Yeah, that's pretty good. That'd be worth checking out. That thing's big, too. It's like four gigabytes. It's a big game.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, wow. For a mobile game. But as usual, the other thing I really like is all of these are backed up and synced, and you can play them on your Mac or your Apple TV or whatever. and I was playing the Star Trek thing on my Mac and I'm only bugged that it doesn't let me do a windowed mode which is really annoying. I want to have that off in the corner somewhere
Starting point is 00:16:22 and just kind of going. But the other one does, the Fantasian one does let me just sort of have that up and going. So anyway, it's cool stuff. I know not everybody's in that ecosystem so we won't bore your heads off with this stuff, but it's pretty neat.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Now, maybe some of you're at home going, you know, Scott, what I'd really like is a physical game on my table that I can play with my friends and my family, okay? Maybe you're saying that. Brian, do you ever say that? I say that all the time. I say that weekly. Okay, good, Scott. Tell me you've got an answer for me because I'm dying to find out if there's some solution to this problem. Here's my solution to your problem and everyone's problem. Let's say you got a little family time or you got some friends over, whatever it is. And you want to play a
Starting point is 00:17:06 quick, easy to learn, fun, competitive card game to up to four people. good news today I launch rock runners incorporated which you can get over at frogpants.com slash rock runner now or rock runners wait rock runners yes I just got it wrong not rock runner uh anyway the Kickstarter happens today at 11 a.m. our time so uh right after the show basically it will go live and you can snag yourself a copy of this thing the kickstarter for run for 30 days a ton of work has already been done on it. I've been picking at this for a couple of years now. And you'll even notice in the intro video, which is up, or I put out the video by itself today on the, what do you call it, the freaking newsletter. And it lets you, or sorry, that video will be weird because Vann's like three months old in it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I know. That looks like he wants to eat that box. He really wants to eat the box. We didn't let him eat the box for the record. We didn't think that was good for an infant. Yeah. But that's how long ago I was filming that demo and been working at it forever. I'm really proud of it.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I did everything from design the game itself to all the artwork, the packaging, everything. The whole thing is a little bit nerve-wracking because I've never done this before. And I'm finally glad to bring some sunlight to it. Part of the reason I didn't put out and put it out in 2020 is it just felt weird during a pandemic to try to do a Kickstarter. I don't know why. Just kind of threw me off for a while. But I feel pretty good about doing it now. Trapped at home?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh, yeah. Getting a game, yes. But launching a Kickstarter just felt weird. I don't know. Oh, I see. Yeah. All right. I get it.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Like, monetary struggles. Yeah, they're just feeling like, I don't know. Like, here I am with my hot new project, everybody. I know you're stuck at home and a bunch of you lost your jobs. And I just didn't want to be a dick.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And it probably wouldn't have made me one. I just, I don't know. I had a weird feeling about it. But I don't feel that way now. Things are opening it up. We've got spring. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:07 hopefully variants keep their distance. And we all can move forward a little bit. As a result, you can get it today. So 11 o'clock today, head on over to frogpants.com slash rock runners. And there's a link right there to the Kickstarter. And like I said, a bunch of you who are signed up to the newsletter at frogpans. Club, you already got it this morning. I'll link to it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 So you're signed up to be notified when it goes live. That'll be today at 11. So watch for that. Very excited. Very cool. Yeah. And all the rules will be there. You'll understand how it works.
Starting point is 00:19:37 what it's based on. It's based on this ancient card game. My parents taught me forever ago, and I took some of those ideas and built on those. And I don't know, very excited. Sci-fi-ed it up. Yep. Speaking of which,
Starting point is 00:19:50 you played a little Gloomhaven over the weekend. I did, because we don't have a new card game to play. We played janky old Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion. Jeez. And that thing that we were running into last week, I think I talked about this Monday morning last week, this session we had where we just couldn't complete a scenario.
Starting point is 00:20:11 We completed it this weekend and it came right down to Tina being the last one standing. She's the healer, but she can do a little bit of damage. And basically she was just kiting the last enemy all around the map. Just tink, tink, tink, and then run. And then tink, tink, and then run. Basically, we're all dead watching and just helping her play her cards. It's cooperative.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So we're kind of saying, all right, I think you want to do that and stun him and then hit him with that thing. Yeah, you want to help each other in that case. It worked out really well. So Gloomhaven Jawsaline, still loving that thing. And if you've picked it up and you're stuck on scenario four, which if you do a search online, at least Clark did a search online, and found out that that is the most difficult scenario in the game of like a 15 scenario game, scenario four is the beast I would keep hearing that it's like a steep
Starting point is 00:21:08 steep curve up right like uh it is but then five is kind of a lot a lot easier so weird a little mountain in the middle of uh middle of a of a nice slow build yeah well I will we will we will see what happens
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm very excited about actually finally cracking that game open and playing it so yeah you really should I think um Tina's having a great time I think Kim would love it so you know her and the kids and yeah we got it we may as well play it you've got it crack that box open i know you've pushed all the pieces out all the i did the attack and money pieces and stuff it's satisfying getting all your chits out you know it is yes push them chits out yeah pushing your chits out squeeze out squeeze out a couple chits and play the damn game that's what i say all right done away's
Starting point is 00:21:58 speaking of playing the game yeah we're going to play a game today speaking all these games oh my gosh It's all games all the time, because we just like to entertain ourselves with games. And today's no difference. So let's play this. Welcome to the show, One Brian Dunaway, returning triumphantly after missing last Wednesday, which we missed you horribly. But Brian, it's good to have you back. How are you?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, was it just one? Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Oh, hi. Oh, hi, Brian. It was just one. No, I missed two of them. Did he? Wait.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah. Oh, no. We had Randy in for one. We had Randy in for one and we had Tom in for the other. Oh, it was the previous one. week, though, not two in a row. That's what I was thinking it was two in a row. No, I wouldn't do two in a row. Oh, my God, what am I?
Starting point is 00:22:37 I know. If you miss two in a row, you're fired. Yeah, what are you even doing if it's two in a row? I'll never forget what you did to Daryl. What we did to Daryl? You mean what Daryl? What Daryl did to himself, you mean? Like, just pull himself out of the show. Daryl didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Daryl just ran into life like so many podcasters and entertainers, you know, sometimes life comes at you. It comes at you fast. Sometimes you just got to look around and see what's up. But I'll tell you what. I'm reliable, man. I've been doing podcast with Scott and Brian for, I don't know, 15, 16 years. I ain't going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah. Like it or not. Look at you sitting right here. We couldn't get rid of you if we tried. Yeah. And you've tried. Well, let's bring a caller in. I'm pretty sure we have one in the line, although something's weird in here.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Ooh, weird. you know that? Hold on. Hi, who's this? Hi, it's Kit London. How are you guys? Hi, Kit. That's really weird.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Her, so there's just like ring wave form. You guys can't see this, but that normally is like nothing there. And for Kit, it's like pulsing as if there's huge noise on your line, but you're not. You sound fine. Weird. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. Maybe it's that hot new M1 Mac she's got.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Maybe that's it. Hey, Kit London, it's good to have you here. we always like playing with you and boy, howdy, are you going to get some cool prizes today if you win? None of this is possible until Brian Ibbett has his chance to explain the damn game. Brian? That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So, Kit, I'm going to be giving Scott and Brian a topic they're going to go back and forth, giving me answers that fit that topic. If one of them gives a wrong answer, repeated answer, or they take too long to come up with an answer, the win will go to the other player. Your job is to predict who's going to come out on top. Based on the topic, today, you are playing
Starting point is 00:24:27 for a physical prize package. from Scott. This includes a Mad Max Fury Road figurine. What? How are you separated with that? I know. I know. It's hard to believe. Frogpants print and sticker pack as well as a pencil sketch from Scott. Not a photocopy, not a Xerox, not a mimeograph, but an actual pencil sketch from Scott.
Starting point is 00:24:50 That's right. By the way, so for those wondering why on Earth I would ever give away a Mad Max Fury Road figurine, these all i have a whole stack of these they're in a box and it's a mystery as to which character you would get so you don't know who it is till you open it you could get a morton joe you can get max himself you could get furiosa whatever and i got a whole bunch of these what would be the one you wouldn't want i mean we all know what we want but what would the thing would be like oh man probably the um probably the gas town guy he right weird huge feet and his nipples sticking out of his coat and nine out of ten nine out of those are that guy yeah yeah right right He's the common.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Actually, I don't know. It's funny. You say that. I probably could find out what the commons versus the rares are, but... It usually says on the side of the box, like it says, has a picture of one of the things, and then says, like, one out of six. And then the rare ones are like, one out of 24.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure that Morton Joe's a harder one to get in general, so he may be one of the rare ones. But either way, really happy to send that and get you a nice physical set of prizes today. So that would be fun. Physical. Physical. Very cool. Well, in order to get any of that awesome lute, you have to be able to predict how they're going to do on a topic.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Today's topic comes to us from John Tweedy. John sent this one in, and I think it's a really, it's going to be a really fun one. I've been trying to figure out the best way to do it, and I've narrowed it down to characters. I always get worried when, Ibitt goes, this is going to be a fun one. Translation, you're going to suffer. greatly. It's going to be fun for me and the audience.
Starting point is 00:26:31 All right, over the course of four movies, not including the versus Predator or Prometheus or the other ones, we've been introduced to a lot of characters in the aliens movies, specifically the first four alien movies. This comes up because, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:48 last week we were talking a lot about alien and aliens and Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. Those specifically are the four movies I want you to focus on. I want you to name as many characters from those movies as you can. I'm going to help you out. You can't name the actual
Starting point is 00:27:03 alien. Oh. So that one's off the table. So you can't say... What if he has a specific name? They don't. But you're only going on the first four. Like, Greg or something? Like Greg, the alien? What if I'm on a first name basis with a few of these?
Starting point is 00:27:20 No. No. No. No. I mean, that would mean you had to name them then is what you're saying. You named them names. You'd have to name them. Yes. That's fantastic. Okay, later off air, you need to share with us the names you've given each of the aliens. That's great.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I've got Mr. All right. So, naming characters from the Alien series, Kit, after hearing Scott and Brian talking about their comfortability, comfort level, comfortableness with the topic, who do you think is going to do better at it? And who do you want to go first? I'm picking Scott to win and Brian to go first. Scott to win, baby. Scott to win.
Starting point is 00:28:02 That means you go first, Brian. Is that what that means? That does what that means. Did I go first? When she says Brian goes first, that's usually what that means. Oh, okay, I was confused about that. So, okay, so the first character you got to go with, wait a minute, I make sure I get a mulligan, right, in case I's. Yeah, yeah, you get a mile.
Starting point is 00:28:21 All right, then I'm going to go with Ripley because, because, uh, Ellen Ripley. And I'm also going to, so Ellen Ripley, of course, Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3. Spoiler, she dies in Alien 3, but she comes back as Ellen as Ripley 8 in Resurrection. I'm taking that one off the board, too, because come on now. Ripley 8. Also, we named our cat Ripley, so that was all. Oh, we have a dog, Indiana. We named the cat, Ripley.
Starting point is 00:28:50 We have a dog named Ripley now. All right. Let's go with Hicks. Hicks. Corpil Hicks. Dwayne Hicks, played by Michael Bean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Microbeen. Only way to be safe is to nuke it from orbit. Or whatever he says. Yeah. I'm in the mood for aliens right now. Anyway, go ahead, Brian. You are weird. Yeah, thanks.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You're just sticking with the first four, right? We're definitely not going. Just the first four. All right, no. All right, noot. Good choice right there. It's making sure. Uh, real name, Rebecca.
Starting point is 00:29:25 of Jordan. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Played by Carrie Henn. Yep. Carrie Henn. She kind of, I think she didn't do a lot. Mostly in aliens.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Mostly. Mostly. Yeah. Mostly. Let's go over there to Hudson. Stow that shit, Hudson. Game over, man. Hudson.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Bill Paxton, of course, on that one. And yeah, good old Hudson in aliens. Good old. Hudson. Good old Hudson. Yep. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to remember what Scott said first now because I'm,
Starting point is 00:30:02 all right. I'm pretty sure he didn't say Dallas. He did not say Dallas, played by Tom Scrit. Scurit, Mr. Steers. The first alien movie. Yeah, I have a hard time with the names of the original movie. That's one I've watched the most besides, besides Prometheus, shut up.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I've watched it a million times. Shut up. It's okay. I like Prometheus to shut up. judge you for it. I like Prometheus in some ways. That's got some problems, but there's some cool stuff in Prometheus. It gets a bad, it gets way worse
Starting point is 00:30:33 of a rap than it deserves. All right, I'm going to go with Oh, the name just left. Oh, Vazquez. Oh, Daggett, that's my problem to go with Nick. Vesquez. Yep. Janette Goldstein. Yep, she's what's his name's, she's John Connor's stepmom in Terminator 2
Starting point is 00:30:53 as well. Oh, she really? Okay. Yeah, she's cool. Cool actress. All right. Vasquez. Vasquez. That's squeeze. Squeeze.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Squeeze. All right. What do you got? I'm going to stay with the first aliens and Scott's really confused me. He's jumping all around, mostly in two, but. All I've done is two. I'm going to go with Kane. Kane.
Starting point is 00:31:21 John Hurt. Mr. Hurt. Oh, yeah. He of the chestburster. it hurt big daddy big daddy pain yeah that was a hell of a scene still to this day one of the great scenes ever made um uh we'll stick with three for now and or two and well we could do three i suppose bishop uh bishop i thought you said bishop no no bishop oh crap i'm in i'm really in trouble then yes bishop's um and i will take it don't do it i'm taking bishop too
Starting point is 00:31:55 a different character. Brian's saying Bishop takes Bishop takes Bishop. That's a chess move. King takes Bishop off the door. So all the bishops, all the bishops are off. All your bishops belong to mine.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I could totally use that one. Did we say, yeah, I already said that one. Did we say, yeah. And we definitely can't name the aliens. And we can't go to Prometheus and name anybody there.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Okay, fine. Correct. Yeah, those are all the same rules I told you at the beginning, Stahl Boy. I know, I know. I'm stalling by repeating the rules. You know how we play this game. Stall boy is a great name.
Starting point is 00:32:36 All right, then, oh my God. I'm pretty sure you didn't name any other things from the first one. But I'm going to go. Yep, you are. I'm going with, I'm going with Junior in part three. Junior. Yeah, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Played by Holt McAllenny. One of the prisoners, goes by the name Jr. Because I always make notes when they say junior. It always annoys them. Really? Okay. Yeah, you don't, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:13 We never talked about this one, film, Sack? No, no. Surely we've talked about my junior fetish. I don't remember ever talking about your junior fetish. Junior fetish. all right mother
Starting point is 00:33:26 the shit mother yes yes it is a voice still a character performed by Helen Horton
Starting point is 00:33:33 Horton Horton is the computer on the Stromo yeah all right there's a there's a
Starting point is 00:33:44 Phrhrush up um um I get I'm gonna call you stallout boy from now on Right thank you
Starting point is 00:33:58 That'd be great Um I just know there's some obvious ones I'm missing They get so stupid in In three One I've kind of Three's great
Starting point is 00:34:09 People piss on three all the time I love it It's a prison And I can see the actor's faces But I can't remember Prison Planet One of my favorite backdrops Is a prison plan
Starting point is 00:34:19 in it. So cool. Right. Um. All right. Charles S. Dutton. And the character he played? Dutton. Rock. He played Dutton. No, he did not. Is that way? Does he get a, he doesn't get a, you know, Molligan.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He plays, he plays. Really in this one. I mean, you know. This far in, I don't think you can give me Molligan. Not to mention I'm pretty much out. I was going to say, I could give him. a mulligan, he's going to just come up with another Sutton. I bet it's Sutton. I meant it's Sutton. I meant mutton. I think I know his name.
Starting point is 00:34:59 His character's name? It's something like Benzley or something or something stupid or Sally Ralph. I'm not going to tell you. Oh, I know you're not going to tell me. I've already guessed. My guess was Dutton. That is all you got. I saw it got, man. That's what you get to that. You know what that is.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, that's the wrong answer. I think his name is Ash, if I'm not incorrect. Oh, that sounds right. Ian Holm played Ash. Oh, Ash is the robot. Shit. Ash was the robot. Yeah, Ian Hohm.
Starting point is 00:35:31 His name was Dylan? Dylan. Dutton's character was Dylan. Dillon's the reason. Was the cat called Jonesy? I knew it was a D-something. That was called Jonesy. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:35:41 That wasn't on my list, but I wouldn't accept it. Oh, Jonesy. Never go back for the cat. The other characters from the first movie could have said, Lambert, Brad The Sheepish Lying? And Parker. Parker. And then
Starting point is 00:35:56 Paul Reiser's character was Burke. Burke! Yep. Then there was A-Pone, Gorman, Drake, Frost, Spunk-Mire. Spunk-Fire. Not going to get a spunk-fire. Yeah. Dietrich. I always thought A-Pone was
Starting point is 00:36:12 Napalm when I first saw the movie. I always thought it was Napal. Yeah. Napalm, yeah. And cocooned colonist. also in the third in the second movie oh i didn't know we're going up it was on my list so i would have taken it uh dylan clemens andrews aaron uh david posslethwaite played by pete postlethwaite which i think is really fun that's hilarious yeah gave himself the same name prison planet three right was that in three prison planet yep um bogs rains we didn't even get to four
Starting point is 00:36:41 we didn't even really get to four my gosh what we can all remember actors right winona rider Ron Perlman, Dan Hadea. Would you have counted what's his name, Bishop, but not as Bishop, but as the head of the corporation? I can't think of the name of the corporation. Because it's Bishop 2. No, I mean, in the movie, he plays a live dude non-robot in 3.
Starting point is 00:37:07 In the credits, well, in this description, it says, is he the original human designer, or is he an Android? Bishop 2 arrives at the end. Oh, it doesn't. So that's not canon, whether we know or not? It's not clarified. At least in this list, it's not clarified. I always assumed it was the real designer human.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That's so, too. Yeah. Wayland? Wait, wait. Oh, so that would be, yeah, that would be always the Prometheus here, right? Yeah, that would have been Prometheus. Yep. Oh, that would.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Anyway. Yeah, dude. That's all means the Kit London wins. Woo! Kid London, you freaking won. Happy for Kit London, sad for me. You know, she knows what horse to back. Well done.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Now, all you've got to do to collect these winnings is send me an email, Scott at frogpants.com. That's Scott at frogpants.com, and I will send you your stuff post-haste. Congratulations and well done. Thank you. And if you guys get a chance to play Nightmare before Christmas clue, it's super fun. Oh, is it good? And there's different roles. Oh, I'll play that.
Starting point is 00:38:07 The characters have special abilities, and you can die and then this clue. Whoa, no way. Oh, that's cool. See, they did that with Harry Potter, too. Like, they made Harry Potter Clue. You get all these extra abilities and features and stuff like that. It's so much better. So I'll totally try Nightmare before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, I was close to winning. And if you get, you pull entry cards. And if there's, once there's seven Pumpkin King cards on the board, if you pull the eighth one, you die. And then the eighth one keeps getting shuffled in that deck. So I was close to winning and I died I was like no That's great I love a car
Starting point is 00:38:50 I love when there's like a single rare card And a deck that that f's everybody over That's great Oh there might be one of those in my new game rock runners Wow Well that's awesome Congratulations kit And I look forward to your email
Starting point is 00:39:04 We'll get this stuff right out to you Brian Dunaway Look at you Hey helped her win I know look okay So here's my weakness It is it is military-based movies that call everybody by their last name,
Starting point is 00:39:21 I disregard every single name they say, unless they're stupid like Ticks or Junior or, you know, something stupid like that. And then I'm like, Junior. Got it. Got it. But if it's like Parker or, you know, something's stupid, I'm not going to remember that.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah. I don't know why the second movie is a lot easier to remember all those names for some reason, and I can't remember anybody in the first movie's last name, except Ripley in Dallas. The first one, I think they said the names more often. Well, plus you had the HUD, right? There was the HUD that had everybody's name with their little video
Starting point is 00:39:56 camera. That helped a lot. Yeah, so you saw their names all the damn time. I already thought of that. That's probably what I'm doing. My brain is... But they also would yell at each other at Lise. Hutz and stole that shit. Napo! They can't say it over here. Napo! Come in, nope, NAPO! Come in, nope, NAPO! Like, there was just like this constant yelling everybody's
Starting point is 00:40:12 name all the time, and they didn't do that as much in the first or third, but you just make me watch, I just want to go binge it all now. I love those movies. Gosh, dang it. Including the fourth one? I love the fourth one. I love it all. I like the fourth one. I don't, I mean, I'm not going to say I love it. I don't love four. I don't even love three.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I love two, and I really like one. Four and three, though, just are fine. They're fine. They have moments of greatness and some other, you know, it's fine. Proper alien movies need to come back. We need, like, a real return to form that isn't just this weird ethereal Prometheus stuff. Those are cool. They have their thing going, but it's not quite what we're looking for, is it? We want something more like colonial Marines, like, let's go to another planet and fight some shit and take out a bunch of aliens.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Maybe it can't be done. Maybe we're done. Maybe the best is behind us. I don't know. But nonetheless. I think the problem is, I'm going to agree with you, Scott, but I'll tell you the problem. And it's the problem I had. Oh, they're doing a series.
Starting point is 00:41:13 You know what? They've already answered this for us. They're making a series, and I'm stoked about it. Noah Holly's making it. It's going to be great. So all of my problems will go away. I love the older movies, and I love them because they take their time with the characters. And it doesn't seem like we have time anymore for characters.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Like, I was watching Godzilla versus King Kong last night, and I kept thinking, man, it's just like we don't have time for characters. characters anymore it's like well those movies don't many special effects but you don't want them in that in that movie though you don't want characters well it's according to what you want it's correct what you want man i mean if you want to make a straight up you know godzilla remake no they never focused on that kind of stuff but i mean we they also used to focus on you know basically wrestling moves that was what the old godzillas were i was like get up godzilla get up you can't let him beat you man it was a bit of that he's down he's down oh he's back up yeah yeah well this
Starting point is 00:42:15 this new this con versus godzilla thing is as close as they've gotten to what i want which is mindless stupid robots that's funny because lizards fighting it was it was actually uh it was a little step down for me from king of monsters which is the last one and i i felt like even though that one had problems i felt like it was it it it had more purpose well i call it a LeBuff problem. Too many humans ruin your transformers. It ruins your Transformers. It ruins your Transformers movies, what I'm saying. But man, if you like the old ones where the kids get to run around and, you know, have their own side adventure, you will like this one. I enjoyed it. I just, but I only enjoyed it. Like every time there's too much talking, I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 00:43:01 hurry up with your dumb story that I don't care about. Get back to this huge spectacle. That's what I want. I want this monkey. Right. It was a spectacle, man. I want this monkey and this lizard fighting it out, and then I want the third giant metal lizard to come out and make things worse for everybody. No, spoiler. Oh, dude, you can't spoil a freaking Godzilla movie.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I'm sorry. It's great. It's good fun. People should watch it. It's stupid and fun, and I loved it. All right, Brian Dunaway, you've been just a treat, and we hope you have a great week.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And don't forget, you and I tomorrow we got the Boob Show. I'm not telling you to remind you. But listeners, if you want to tune in and watch the Boob Show, you can because we talk about video games and I've got a real winner this week that I'm excited to talk about.
Starting point is 00:43:41 We usually don't talk about games we don't like, so, you know, tune in because it's all good stuff. Brian, I don't know what you're playing. What are you playing this week? Do you remember? I'm playing this. It ends up being, it's called Narita Boy, and it is a Metroidvania type.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I didn't even know it. I thought it was a hack and slash, but it's got a retro-looking style to it. It just came out to the Xbox Game Pass. And so it's good so far. That looks really cool. It looks like Trump. ish yes it has
Starting point is 00:44:09 it definitely has a tronish feel to it and you're going to be surprised would I compare it to tomorrow night on the Boop Show all right 3.30 Mountain Time catch it live or check out the podcast afterwards Brian Denoway have a grudder I say I knew he's gone he can't hear me see you Brian I don't know what that sound was that was weird
Starting point is 00:44:29 made his way out all right well done we're going to do one of these real fast Hey it's the news brought to you by. Oh, love that sound. It's brought to you by speaking of sound. Soundography, brand new episode just went up this morning. Hammond and I listened to the entire catalog of Roxy Music.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Yeah, love is the drug. Avalon, eight miles high, great cover of that song. So much stuff by Roxy Music. We didn't even really get too far into the Brian Ferry solo stuff because there's a lot of great stuff to just center on. It was a Patreon-supported episode. Big thanks to Tom, who's also a TMS listener. Go check it out this morning.
Starting point is 00:45:07 over there at soundography.com. Very nice. First story of the day, maybe our only. Cows are being fitted with VR goggles to increase milk production. This is the first step of the cow takeover. Yep. The cowering of the country. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Oh my gosh. You hear that dog? She is so loud. She barks? Oh, I can't hear. She barking? And she doesn't, she goes from zero to 60 with her first bark. So if she thinks someone's at the door or she hears dogs out,
Starting point is 00:45:37 outside or something. She immediately does this. Like that. It's no like, you know, growl and lead up or anything. Just right straight to the business. Anyway, if you visit the Russ Maloko dairy near, a farm near Moscow in Russia, you may think you've arrived in a bizarre futuristic film set. Here, the cows supposedly roam around fitted with VR headsets. VR headsets on cows. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That's what you want from your cow, a little VR business. Is it, uh, are they just, is it looking at, uh, empty bowls of cereal, like dry cereal and, uh, helps spontaneously make milk come back to that. That's right. Exactly. Uh, the VR goggles aren't props for a film. However, they are specially made for these dairy cows to help bring them into a relaxed state in order to bring more milk, according to a press release. So it's just to calm them down. Uh, at least that's what they're supposed to be doing, according to the Moscow ministry of agriculture and food. Doesn't quite the roll off the tongue like FDA does, but whatever. that's the MMAF
Starting point is 00:46:38 It says It turns out there are some reasons to be skeptical As many sources Let's see Including interested engineering I don't know who that is Reported the pressing issue For declining milk production led experts in the IT world
Starting point is 00:46:55 As well as many industry leaders in milk production To work together to find a high-tech solution The solution was virtual reality The cows watch a quote Unique Summer Field Simulation Program Okay, so that's how they get some beautiful, like, you know, the Windows XP, like the Windows XP, like the Windows XP, yeah, okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't even know it's slow motion.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's just like straight up, you know, just a pretty scene. According to those guys, let's see, cows have poor depth perception, creating a VR landscape. The cows could navigate. Met researchers had to take into account their higher perception of the color red, but weaker perception of all the blues and greens around them. they were made to fit the cow's heads oh that must look there are photos of this hold on there are this interesting
Starting point is 00:47:42 so it's um it's this this article is talking about how vice reported on this in 2019 the original experiment for this yeah but I think this is now the the um they're expanding the uh
Starting point is 00:47:57 the VR headsets yeah just to make them because it's working I guess It says here they were designed by some developers in a VR studio along with veterinarians. They did all this thing about structure of the cow's heads and how their eyes would work and that sort of thing. After wearing the headsets, experts reported that the cows displayed a decrease in anxiety and an increase in general mood of the herd. Today, the farm ranks is the top three largest milk producers in Russia. And it looks like it works.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Everybody's making more milk. So I assume they're all self-contained. and these aren't all wired to something somewhere? Hard to tell. That photo, yeah, I mean, the photo looks like it's self-contained. It's a big ass. It's a big ass. I mean, obviously it has to be a big ass pair of VR goggles.
Starting point is 00:48:48 The first photo makes it look like there, or I guess the long shot photo, makes it look like there's a wire coming up off of that. But when you look at the other photo, that's just a wire that's going over the barn there. There is some skepticism, I guess. According to this article, a bunch of people don't believe this is,
Starting point is 00:49:03 working, so they're asking the researchers to provide more data. Their only answer was, where is it? They are promising a further comprehensive study, and then that's all they've said. So basically nobody trusts Russians, is what's happening there. Right, right. Do you think we'll get that study? No, too much has.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Listen, we have head certain cow, that is all that matters. You just walk away, pretend you didn't see us. You see milk? They're giving the milk. You take the milk. Just blend him milk, and it's because of the VR glasses. Look, I have a whole bucket of milk. It is because of VR glasses.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Give him his VR glasses. All right, that'll do it for today's news. We'll save everything else for tomorrow. But now we've got to take a break. Bill will be here after that, and we'll spend some time with Stephen after that. So come on back after this song presented by Brian Ibitt. Yeah, this is great.
Starting point is 00:50:03 This is an artist named Scott Patton, and the first, when I was listening to this, before I saw the name, before I saw who it was, first thing I thought is, is this the violent femmes? This guy has a violent fens kind of sound to him. He totally does. I don't know why, but he does sound like Gordon Gaino, lead vocalist for the violent fems. This is the lead guitarist of a band called Chasing Colors. he's breaking out on his solo that a brand new album is called I don't want to say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:50:36 This is the title track from his brand new album. Here is Scott Patton. No one knows how we try. No one hears when we cry. It's up to me You know we would thrive I don't want to say Goodbye
Starting point is 00:51:15 Oh no No well I love so deep I'm under your spell Without you as hell And I get so I don't want to say goodbye
Starting point is 00:51:54 Oh no I'm about to cry Nobody is when we laugh I don't question if we're wrong, if we're wrong. Make up your mind or do I move along. You have limits just like the sky And I don't want to say goodbye No, no, no
Starting point is 00:53:30 I don't know. Oh, no. What would you like me to say, Scott Johnson? Hello, this is the morning stream. You killed my father. Prepare to die. All right, we're back, everybody. Brian, that song again, Scott Patton, and the song is, I don't want to say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Nice. We give you the full information here on the show. That's what we do. That's right. We may not give you the full song, but we give you full information. Just kidding. That's just for the live people. Yeah, you live people.
Starting point is 00:54:45 You don't get no music on the chat room. That sounded just like the violent fems. Har, har, har, har. All right, hey, what do we got here? We got a little bit of this going on right here. Your bat caves open there, Bill. DeRan joining us from his fine studios in somewhere around
Starting point is 00:55:02 Seattle. We're not going to docks him or anything. What are you kidding? I don't want people going over there to his place, but he's there and he makes cool stuff, and he comes on the show on Mondays, and we talk about those cool things and how you might become a better maker your own selves. Hello, Bill, and welcome back. Hello, good to be back. Also,
Starting point is 00:55:18 happy birthday to you and your brother, Rob. Nice job. The twins turned yet another year older and wiser, and good job on that. Thank you very much. Yes. yesterday was a wonderful celebration of life that's awesome well we're glad that you're you're alive I told you this on text but you know I'm glad you were born and you're you continue to live and that's good I appreciate it so happy you continue to live yeah I want you to keep living
Starting point is 00:55:45 keep on living dude anyway welcome oh sorry I was just going to say we celebrated by eating pizza and playing valine so that seems like oh I saw you on there I saw you on there last night with a a whole bunch of people play that game, obviously, on my list. But first name came up as a chin beard. I'm like, oh, all right. That makes sense. He's still playing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Anyway, it's good to have you here. We're going to dive right in. Tell us what we are going to discuss this week in the world of the makers. Sure. We've talked a little bit, and I've shared some videos about restoration as a way of making, right? Fixing something or restoring it to its previous glory of some kind. and there is like there's a ton of really cool restoration videos over on YouTube and everywhere on the internet there I would say there is some form of restoration video for
Starting point is 00:56:36 everyone and I'm sure I've only scratched the surface so here's some of the restoration videos I like it's almost its whole its own genre over there it feels like yeah and there's subgenres too man it's deep so tool restoration always a good time there's tons of tool restoration out there people will take like an old wrench that's rusty and clean it up or they'll also take a 150 year old printing press and fix that up too and then use it so much fun vintage toys like like old metal tanker truck oh my goodness so many matchbox cars restorations out there old video game consoles they're starting to age let me tell you and that gray plastic everyone used Oh, it makes me feel talking about old video game consoles. Yeah, you know, like the Nintendo Game Boy. Yeah, that old plastic gray is now a horrible yellow for everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Yeah. Yeah, and they figured out how to fix it. They've all figured it out with hydrogen peroxide and UV light and some other stuff. They can fix it. It's really astonishing to see a yellow Super Nintendo return to its former color. It's really cool. I'll bet. Vehicles, oh my goodness, you could dip into so many, so many holes.
Starting point is 00:57:59 There's so many vehicle restorations, watches, like mechanical watches. Oh, sure. Or even paintings, like artwork. You can watch people restore artwork. It's so satisfying to see the varnish come off and all the little. It's so careful, little, cute tips and everything. Then they put a new kind of coat of varnish on. It looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:23 It's just, trust me, if you have a thing you're into, then there's probably someone making a video restoring that thing. And I recommend you go look for it. Is there, is there any, like, base rules? Like, let's say you've got an old game boy. And you're like, man, this thing's gross. I got to do a bunch of acid from the batteries in there. There's like, you know, all these other corrosive, whatever, whatever. Do you need the video or should you explore some and go, well, I know what to do? I'm going to dig in here and dig it out and clean this and clean that and then you know maybe you have to look up how to restore the original color of the of the casing or whatever but the rest of it couldn't you just sort of i don't know
Starting point is 00:59:00 start taking it apart and going for it or would you not recommend that um i from what i've seen uh it's possible to purchase replacement parts for a lot of these old consoles there are people making replacement buttons and screens and all sorts of stuff uh also they made a lot of them And they're not rare. So I would recommend, if you're going to restore a Game Boy, right? Yeah. Buy a few of them. They're not expensive.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And Tinker, you know, have fun with it. Tear it apart, see what makes it tick. You can even, and there's a project I'm going to talk about in a second, but you can even buy several of them to extract enough good parts to make one good one, if that's what you wanted to go with all original parts. Because the goal isn't always that they're in perfect. functioning order, sometimes it's just I want this to look right, right?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah, and I've seen that with a lot of the tool restoration. I mean, the tool restoration usually it ends up being functional in the end, but people will decide whether or not they want to restore it to look like the original and use all original parts, or they'll decide if they want to fancy it up a little bit, you know?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Sometimes those old tools weren't perfectly chromed, but some of the people restoring them are like, nope, I'm going to shine it so it's perfectly reflective and mirror finish. So, like, there's a lot of options out there when it comes to restoration, which I think makes it super fun. Also, you have an opportunity to customize it, too, kind of make it your own a little bit if you want. But most of the people I see doing the consoles, they try and make a functional machine that looks exactly like the original.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I do like the ones where they take something old and make it work, but also make it look like the newest version of that console, like taking an old PlayStation 1. and making it look like a PlayStation 5 or something along those lines. I'm trying to think of a real example, but... What if you took all the guts out of a PlayStation 1 and took all the guts out of a PlayStation 5 and put the PlayStation 1 guts in the 5? Yeah, you could totally do that.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I think you'd have to, like, take two PlayStation ones and fit the guts in because there's got to be a reason the PlayStation 5 is as massive as it is. Yeah, yeah. So when I was a kid, when I was a teenager, We did a really cool restoration with my dad. When he was in his 20s, he had a 1960s Volvo P-1800 sports car. And when he was in his 40s and I was in my teens, he wanted to, he wanted one of those cars.
Starting point is 01:01:34 He wanted to restore it. So he went and found one pretty good one and a couple of okay ones to use his donor cars. And we completely rebuilt that car. me and my twin brother mostly and my dad our little brother helped a bit but not he wasn't as excited my twin brother and i were of driving age so we were very excited you you cared by default you were into it oh yeah so we did everything we took every single part off of the car until it was just a frame uh we stripped the paint off of everything off of the car off of all of the parts got rid of all the rust we repainted everything we had the car repainted uh let's see we had the engine rebuilt the bumper's re-chromed the leather seats re-opulstered and we assembled it all again using original parts which i wanted to put a cd player in it but dad was like no we're putting an original radio in it even though it sucks yeah you're gonna make some some concessions uh when working with a dad
Starting point is 01:02:39 because dad's one old school man they don't want new stuff that's true and i now that i'm almost 40. I get it as well. I totally understand. And it looks amazing. And he still has the car. He's had it for more than 20 years now. And it still looks and runs amazing. And here's the fun thing. This is funny. Funny now. Not funny at the time. But it was a great experience for a teenager. It was a lot of hard work. We learned a lot about mechanics and how cars work. We learned how to do everything the right way. We didn't hurry with this thing, which I think was really important. now I have a twin brother and we were both working on this car and we were both 16 or 17 years old at the time and we were both fighting over who was going to get to take the car
Starting point is 01:03:25 to the prom right it's a two-seater car can't bring four people only two people can go in this tiny little car joke was on us though because when the car was finished just in time for the prom by the way car was finished
Starting point is 01:03:39 dad had to go and get insurance out of it because it was an older car that we restored he could get classic car insurance, which is really cheap because they expect you're not going to risk doing any funny business with your car. You're going to drive it safely, and you're probably not going to drive it much. Not much. You're going to keep it in the garage. It's never, ever.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Sure, you take it out for the occasional show you get invited to, and it's part of one of those street car shows or whatever, and then you put it nicely tucked away in your garage again. With the cover on it and everything, yeah. Now, the problem is that the insurance company knew that my dad had two teenage twin boys. And they made him sign something saying that in no uncertain terms, would he ever let his teenage boys drive that car? And he had to sign that before they would give him the cheap insurance. And my dad was like, I'm sorry, I'm not buying good insurance so that you can drive the car. So we weren't even allowed to drive it.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Neither of us took it to the prom. Well, even now, I was going to say, if one of you got to take it to the prom, then you go, all right, which one of you decided to roof you the other one and then pretend to be your brother, because you both know. You just tell everybody you know that it was you driving. He tells everybody that he knows that it was him driving and nobody's none the wiser. No one will know. The photos all like the same. Yeah. No one's going to know. Either way, we didn't get to drive it. I have since driven it since I'm a grown up now and I'm allowed to drive cars. And it's cool. It is really cool. I will say, it's. It's a tiny little car. Your butt cheeks are about six inches off the ground, which means your forehead is bumper level with every other car out there, which is a little disconcerting, but it is still a really cool little car to drive around. Yeah, that's awesome. Stick shift. You have to put lead in the gas.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Like, you have to add lead to it. Oh, my gosh. In the gas mix? Wow. Yeah, you have a lead additive because that's what cars used back then. Yeah, those cars were leaded, man. Oh, yeah. Gas. Because you used to be able to, I mean, up to a point, you could buy leaded gas still. And unleaded was still like this new fain dangled thing, but not now. Like, you can't go just buy a gallon of leaded gas as far as I know. Right. Isn't it weird that it's still advertised that way, though? Yeah. It's like selling a new house and advertising it asbestos free. Right. That is really weird. Now that you say it, why went and got gas yesterday? And I'm like, wait a minute, unleaded. Of course it is. Just call a gas.
Starting point is 01:06:10 at this point. Instead, it's like premium unleaded and whatever those other things you're getting ripped off are. Anyway, Ultra. Yeah, ultra premium. I only get it if it has the word ultra. Well, I'm all about the restoration stuff. I'm not very good at myself, but this is something
Starting point is 01:06:28 my dad was really super into. And so it's kind of satisfying. I was just watching a video of somebody restoring a Corvette and the first thing it did was pressure wash this thing. Man, I want a pressure washer so bad. just for no reason other than just to clean something, like the cement or whatever, you know. Dude, I bet there are vintage arcade cabinet restoration videos out there. Oh, got to be, right?
Starting point is 01:06:53 Oh, yeah. I have a vintage arcade. It's got to be, yeah. I have vintage arcader machines in this house. I should, I should restore them is what I should do. I have a mooncresta from the 80s, a sit-down cocktail model of a mooncresta that doesn't work. it powers on but none of the electronics work anymore um but it's like this it's just dirty and grimy and there's like cigarette burns and part of me's like that's what gives it character and i shouldn't
Starting point is 01:07:20 restore it but there's another part of me that wants to just tear that thing apart and and find an extra 24 hours a day that i can spend doing it which is the hard part for me and then have that experience where you sit down to that cabinet and it feels just like it did when you played it when you were young you know yeah yeah we had um my parents had a friend we would visit, I believe he lived in New Jersey, we would stop by every time, whenever we were driving through. His name was Clint. He had an asteroids cocktail cabinet in his house. Like in his living room, it was always plugged in. Whenever we were visiting, my brothers and I were just like, we want to go play that. He has an arcade game in his house. It's so exciting. We'd go,
Starting point is 01:08:02 is that a Simpsons game? Yeah, I found a video somebody's restoring one of the, that Simpsons co-op, beat-em-up game. Yeah, the one with four, right? The big wide one. It's kind of like the X-Men one, right? Yeah. Super wide with all the... And this joystick board, it has seen some stuff in its lifetime.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I think both of those cabinets were in the movie theater where I grew up. Yeah. It sounds very familiar. The X-Men. Oh, yeah, the X-Men one and the Simpsons. They didn't have room.
Starting point is 01:08:34 They actually had to take out one of their multiplex theaters to make room for both of those games. Yeah. It's gigantic. They're four player. Bill, you just reminded me why I was so popular in junior high. Everybody wanted to come to our house because we had like eight of these in the garage. Oh, it's so cool. Yeah, they all thought, oh, that's the best house to be at.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And he's our best friend. No, they weren't really my friends. They just wanted to play a Missile Command all night. Well, I wasn't very good friends with Clint either. I just wanted to play his Asteroys. Yeah, see? See? He was also in his 40s.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah. Oh, this game still works. We didn't have a lot to talk about. This is the cool thing. This guy's, uh, Simpsons. cabinet looks like the board and the ROMs and stuff even the CRT still work oh there's no way that's really how big the screen was that looks so tiny compared to the frame pretty sure that's correct but wow it's the big bezel we had such weird expectations back then of like that seemed huge to us
Starting point is 01:09:26 I know but really it was like what a 14 16 17 inch CRT and now it's that sounds ridiculous but we were used to what we were used to man All right. Well, this is great. Restoration Nation, baby. Everybody get out there and restore something. Bonus links this week. You got anything cool for our audience? Oh, yeah, yeah. So there's a channel called Stuff Made Here. Excuse me, Stuff Made Here. It's really great. He makes all sorts of really crazy computer controlled things, like CNC type things. He made a CNC haircutter, a little weird. What? He also made a CNC robot chainsaw. So if you look up Stuff Made Here, Robot Chainsaw. oh what right so it's to make carve like wood carvings with a chainsaw it's the thing people do he's like why not put a chainsaw in the end of a robotic arm and do the same thing this is a 3D printer that can kill you absolutely yes and he points it out several times yeah man that's 100% a way to get a million views on
Starting point is 01:10:27 your videos to make a chainsaw robot arm that's amazing yeah it's so easy why isn't everyone yeah why aren't we all just doing that I mean I thought to do that wow ooh stand clear of that thing. Look at that swing around. Holy shit. All right. That's awesome. As always, having Bill on is enlightening, and we learn things. Bill, thanks for hanging out with us. Check out PunishProps.com, everybody, and follow him on Twitter at Chinbeard.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Bill, have a great week. Take it easy. Bye now. Let's see you. Happy birthday. It's all funny games until this thing becomes self-aware. This is the leader of the robot uprising. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine sitting up on its big podium with its swinging
Starting point is 01:11:05 arm going, yeah, four, the nine, nine. Telling everybody to kill the humans Watching the video of this thing Cut that dog out of styrofoam And it's just insane That's really cool Wow Okay
Starting point is 01:11:20 Oh that made me in the mood To go tear those arcade machines up I have two of them And one is my dad's own construction He built his own cabinets for a few years That one I kind of don't want to I don't want to harm I want to just clean it
Starting point is 01:11:33 But the other one the mooncrestle one Who cares man? I could tear that thing the pieces. Yeah. Yeah. Freaking moon crest. Well, a game.
Starting point is 01:11:41 You know, exactly. Put a retro pie in there, play any game you want sitting down having a cocktail or a mocktail. Yeah, or a mocktail. All right. Let's get, um, Stephen in. How about that? Yeah. Been a bit.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Haven't talked to him in, well, a week, I guess. That's right. Feels longer because he was gone the weeks, two weeks prior to that, but having him back would be great. And I'm going to play this right here. Stephen. Schleiker. Stephen Schleiker Coming on to the program like he always does every Monday, most Mondays,
Starting point is 01:12:13 we got Steven Schleiker joining us from Major Spoilers.com. Hello, Stephen. Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian. Hello. Hey, man. Hey, what do you know about the Last God series on DC Black Label? Are you familiar with it? I am not.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Okay, so this is relatively new. Five issues so far on Infinite and more coming. It's freaking great. I'm going to just put a quick recommendation out of the ether here. If you like dark, hard fantasy, like D&D combined with, I don't even know, I don't even know how to compare this to, but it's very much like a fantasy tale, magic and sorcery and warriors and all of that. It's not capes and cows. It's not a superhero book at all.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's really bloody. So know that going in. It is part of Black Label, which is their imprint of, you know, slightly more edgy material. Basically, their vertigo imprint. Yeah, I'm absolutely freaking love it. It's great. Can't recommend it enough if you're into what I just described and you want some of that in your life. The writing alone is worth it.
Starting point is 01:13:19 It's just, it's written in this just great kind of dark fantasy kind of language, and it's just awesome. So check it out. It's up on Disney, or Disney, DC, rather, DC Infinite's app or I guess in just regular old-ass comic book form. And the art's really cool. It's all very, not painterly, but. But, like, I don't know. You know how you can make, like, pastel look really cool on certain kind of colored paper? It's a lot of that, and it's just a really neat look.
Starting point is 01:13:48 So it's very cool. It's called The Last God, and it's awesome. Anyway, Stephen's here. He's Lord of All He Surveys, and we're going to spend some time with him. Stephen, let's talk about DC shelves, a couple of movies. They decided, no, we're not doing these. Yeah, you know, there was a lot of, there was a lot of talk. and a lot of positive things coming out of DC films
Starting point is 01:14:09 when Ava DeVorne was announced to be writing the New Gods movie, which is the Jack Kirby stuff that was all throughout the Justice League movie. And also the trench with James Wan. Everybody was very excited about that as not really quite a Aquaman sequel, but it certainly looked at those creatures that lived down in that section.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And then suddenly, DC said, no, we're not going to move forward with those projects. And there's no real reason why, except, you know, the D.C. people have just said, well, we've decided that we're not moving ahead with that. You know, we just had a big old Zach Snyder thing hit the HBO Maxes with everybody freaking out about that. And now there's a new campaign to restore the Snyderverse as opposed to moving on with new things. And D.C. said, you know, a couple of weeks ago, no, we're not moving forward with the with the Snyderverse. We're going to be doing our own thing. And then a week later, they're like, yeah, we're going to cancel these two projects, which. You know, Tom King, Ava DuVernay, working on New Gods, would be an incredible piece. Maybe DC or maybe DC films doesn't see The Eternals doing that well. But if you think the Eternals is out there, the New Gods is incredible storytelling from Jack Kirby. And I would encourage everybody to go check out his original run. The new gods originally appear in Superman's pal Jimmy Olson.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Because when Jack Kirby came back to D.C., they were like, Jack will let you do anything you want. He's like, great, give me a, give me a Jimmy Olson. And let me do whatever I want there. And then, you know, within, I want to say like five or six issues, the new gods were all over the place. So, so why don't they, is it possible that they're just retracting from a film and saying instead, maybe we could, we could, you know, work this as a series, maybe. Maybe that's what they're thinking. Put it on HBO Max. You know what I mean? I mean, that would be, I mean, that would be logical as well. I mean, New God certainly opens itself up to serialized, uh, epic storytelling. I'd be into it. Uh, this
Starting point is 01:16:03 comes right around the same time the news dropped of Disney Plus canceling the right stuff which now is I guess up for auction to go somewhere else it could end up getting picked up by a different streaming service but they were making a right stuff series I assume based on the same material that the movie the right stuff was based on which seen in 30 years or something but anyway little little cancellations here and there kind of across the board yeah I guess the one thing one thing that I would probably caution everybody is when you hear these things about, you know, so-and-so has been attached to this picture or DC is moving ahead
Starting point is 01:16:37 with this picture. Never assume that it's all a done deal until film starts rolling. Yeah. You know, until they announced the first day of production on something. And even then, there have been movies that have been shot and sat on the shelf for years before they suddenly
Starting point is 01:16:53 said, oh, wait a minute. Remember that movie, the house that's got that Thor guy in it? Let's release that into theaters quick. That movie sat on the shelves for a couple of years before they finally released it. So anytime you see any movie news about this project is happening or this is going on, just always remember until they start shooting, there's a good chance it's just going to fold up.
Starting point is 01:17:13 So much stuff does. There's so much money at stake. There's no automatic on any of this. Nope. Unless they've got like pure willpower for things like, you know, Mandalorian Season 3. Guaranteed. It's happening.
Starting point is 01:17:26 No way you're getting around that. But I mean, have they started shooting on that? Well, that's a good point. As far as I know, they haven't. so maybe that's a bad example, but you know there's going to be a season three. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 There will be. That thing was too popular. Disney Plus's biggest draw. Oh, yeah, certainly. I mean, I'm saying yes, it's a great probability that it is, but it's not 100% guaranteed because they haven't begun production.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Yeah. Well, it's a good point. So we'll see how that goes. I always get bummed and things get canceled, but there's not much to read into it other than, you know, you'll have to wait longer for new gods. And then you've got to be, sometimes things are miraculous,
Starting point is 01:18:01 like how the doom patrols, even exists in live action form is beyond me. Like, who in their right mind thought that was a good idea? And it turns out was a great idea. Guardians of the Galaxy, same thing. It's like, I cannot believe you guys made this and made it so great. So, you know, as often as something gets canceled, there are those that squeak in and we should be glad for what we have is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Okay. Yeah, we'll keep in mind with Doom Patrol and Titans and those. It was, we need something to fill this streaming service. So let's find some projects that we think are pretty good. and move forward with those. So that's the only reason why those got moved ahead is because they needed a slot to fill. Well, it's another day, which means it's another record-breaking cell of Superman Action Comics No. 1. Yeah, this one's really fascinating.
Starting point is 01:18:47 This was a 3.0 CGC graded, which this is one where a company verifies it. They seal it up in plastic, and then they sell it. 3.0 is not very good. No, it's not. But here's the thing. Of the Superman number one issues, there are not very many comics that are graded higher than 3.0 that are in circulation. There's a couple of 8.0s, but those, nobody is selling their 8.0 of Superman. And so the 3.0 is pretty good deal. If you can find it, again, we're talking about a comic from 1940 that, you know, people still find worth and value in.
Starting point is 01:19:27 it's not the first appearance of Superman. It kind of retells a lot of the stuff that was already in, action comics number one. But somebody thought that, hey, let me spend $310,000 on this thing at auction a couple of weeks ago. One thing that we have noticed, and I think Justin mentioned it, oh, probably a month or so ago, that during COVID, there has been a huge boom in collectibles. I think he specifically talks about trading cards and baseball cards. and those kinds of things. But even comic book art,
Starting point is 01:19:59 I have been tracking this for a year. There have been astronomical sale after astronomical sale on these kinds of things because I think people are looking to not only hedge their bets, but have something that they can fall back on because these prices just keep going up each time these things hit the market.
Starting point is 01:20:16 For sure. And I was seeing so many things about the Marvel masterpiece trading cards, the old, even the pre-masterpiece ones that just had like regular comic style art of all the characters tripling in price over the previous year. And I've got to sell. I had that
Starting point is 01:20:33 whole collection of those cards. Yeah. Spent 60 bucks on it back back in whatever it was. Yeah. And then when I was moving from Atlanta to California, I was like, I really don't need these anymore. And I think I just tossed him in the trash. Well, you'd be
Starting point is 01:20:48 happier today if you hadn't, I guess. Yeah, I would be. So, you know, the good thing is definitely a comic that you go by today. Scott goes and finally decides to buy what is it the god or whatever the new god or whatever the book that you were just talking about the last god yeah the last god you go and buy that physical version of that it's not going to be worth $310,000 in 20 years because there's so many of those being made but as we look and we see that people are just throwing things away and the availability gets
Starting point is 01:21:21 less and less that's where the value comes in so if you're looking into into doing anything with comic books. My big suggestions would be try to buy original art pages, if you can. Those can get very, very pricey, very, very quickly. If you find something, I was lucky enough to get a whole bunch of Batman the animated series stuff from back in the day, back in the early 2000s, and that stuff has probably tripled in price. But this is stuff that you can hold on to.
Starting point is 01:21:50 You can hang it. It looks good in a frame. But then, you know, you can turn around and sell that. if you need to, for a pretty good price. Don't be surprised if you're like, oh, I want to go and get the latest Superman page or whatever. If you can get those, don't be surprised if those sell for like $2,000 to $5,000 just for those.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Total side note here, but I had a conversation with somebody about NFTs, which have come up on the show a lot lately. Daily Tech News shows certainly done a lot of that as well, where I've talked to Tom about it. And I'm still sort of waffling on all sorts of aspects of it. the good and the bad and the ugly in that regard. But NFTs at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:22:31 this description just totally landed with me, it's basically digital trading cards. Like, that's what it is. So instead of looking at it as, you know, blockchain driven, forget about all that for a second. And just imagine the things that you're into collecting, whatever they may be, baseball cards, whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Imagine if those were verifiable, but just digital versions of a thing. That's what this is. is. It's people placing value on stuff, high or low. More people can sell things because that's, you know, welcome to the internet. But the rarefiedness or the availability of something still matters as part of this equation. There's value in being the collector who has the collection. Like, that's what it is. That's totally it. So also keep in mind that, yes, a lot of it has to do with rarity. But the other thing that goes into all of this price is what
Starting point is 01:23:26 do people value it? So if people see NFTs as something that have value and they're willing to pay, you know, 20 more dollars for a Scott Johnson NFT original than the person who bought it, then that's where the value increases. But if someone is like, yeah, Scott Johnson, I don't know, the guy's trying to sell it for 20 bucks and the guy's like, I'll buy it for five. And the guy sells it for $5, then it's only worth $5. Right. Right. And there's a lot of other back and forth about that that we're not getting into here. And chat room is like quick to point out that. There's lots of scammy angles on this right now. And there absolutely is.
Starting point is 01:24:00 It's why I haven't dabbled. I'm not getting into this until I know what the hell I'm doing. But it's all very pyramidy and weird right now. But the essence of it is the thing that drives people to spend their Ethereum is digital trading cards. It's kind of what it is. Really? I mean, remember when what was his name, Martin Screlli brought that Wutang album? That was the only thing that was available.
Starting point is 01:24:22 It's essentially the same thing as that. It is. I think you should do a morning stream show that is an NFT that you sell and nobody else can listen to it except for the person who has that NFT audio file. Well, and that's the problem is. It turns out to be Martin Schrelly, though. Did you get your $10,000? The problem is there's not. Did the planet get a little warmer?
Starting point is 01:24:46 See, this is the problem, though. Inherent in that technology is that you, it doesn't, you can copy it infinitely. You don't have ownership of the original, but you can still. copy it. So anybody, if I, if we went and did this, for example, where's a, there's a good sound file. Uh, um, let's see here. I don't know. I can't find anything. How about this? Utah connections. Okay, let's say that I, NFTed that thing. It's the original, you guys. mp3. Everybody can still copy it and use it, including us. So NFTs are weird. It's weird. It's very, very good. We were just looking at an image of this Superman, uh, covered.
Starting point is 01:25:25 just a minute ago, that went for $310,000. I mean, we can still look at it. We can still go online into comic book archives where people have put up the digital version of that issue so that you can go and read all that if you want. But the physical copy is still that original thing. Yeah, you're right. Except that one is a literal physical original, whereas a digital file doesn't have that quality or that it doesn't right and the more copies you make of it doesn't degrade it doesn't degrade or
Starting point is 01:25:59 change anything or or technically doesn't change the value of the original which you think it would it's such a weird it's a weird thing it really does boil down to what are people willing to pay for where where's the value in it that they see right right then did by the way the digital copy of see this is why this is weird if you start to write 99 cents if your brain goes too deep into it you're going to start to find weird contradictions and all this because Because, for example, let's just say I had an action comics number one that was in really mint condition. I could get millions for that, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Oh, yeah. At least three million. And I hop on to DC Infinite's app. They have a copy of that issue in pristine, perfect, restored, beautiful, digital version of that thing. Could they NFT that and what would that go for? And it wouldn't be anywhere near the physical one, would it? Like, no way it would go for that much money. I don't think.
Starting point is 01:26:55 I don't know. It's just so weird to me. You know, it's the same thing could be said, not just NFT. It's been any cryptocurrency. Yeah, it's all screwy. Anyway, whatever. We're getting ready for our cyberpunk future. Everybody should get ready and get your implants.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I mean, we could get into, I mean, I'm not the one to speak as an expert on this, but, you know, we haven't lived in a, we've lived in a cashless society for years. And we're just living on ones and zeros from one, you know, transaction to the next. 100%. Yeah. Like we went through a drive-up the other day. I don't remember what it was. Something dumb, like Taco Bell.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Taco Bell. And they went, Kim had pulled out a 20 or something. And they went, oh, we don't take cash. And it's not just a COVID thing. They were just like, we don't have ways of, we can't give you change. We can't do. We cannot transact this thing today. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:27:45 Yeah. And it was just that day. On the flip side of that, on the flip side of that, we did go to a Taco Bell where they're like, our cards are down right now and so we're only accepting cash and people are just pulling out and leaving because they couldn't buy anything well at the end of the day though that piece of paper with the 20 on it is just a piece of paper with a 20 on it like we just have all agreed that we're cool with it and when we got off the gold standard that changed yeah and the minute we all start if you start thinking about it too hard you're going to come out disappointed don't think about it too hard everybody uh all right well it's always nice to talk to you and i hope you're superman number one nfts sells for a lot of money. Oh, man, I wish I had a Superman number one physical copy. Yeah. Wouldn't that be cool? That'd be cool. I bet one of our listeners, uh, somewhere, one of our listeners. Somebody's got it has, has a Superman number one. Even if it's a 1.0 copy, I mean, there were times, I mean, if I would, it would not surprise me at a 1.0 copy. Um,
Starting point is 01:28:42 you know, if you are restoring older houses, especially houses pre-World War II, uh, pay attention to when you open up the walls because, um, oftentimes they would just throw newspapers or magazines or comic books inside those walls for insulation and there have been people that have found action comics first appearance of batman and detective comics just in the walls yes they're a 1.0 version but um you know people find these in the walls just doing the restoration so yeah there's you know there's a chance that that somebody has a copy of that somewhere somebody someplace well yeah because you come on here every three months and tell me about a new record selling one so i know they're out there it's just a matter of uh people finding them or
Starting point is 01:29:18 parting them or some uncle who, you know, hordes them finally died and nephew's like, dude, we're getting rid of this. Yeah, that's how the Mile High collection came to be. Yeah. Yeah. So good luck, Mile High, people. Stephen, always a pleasure. And a tiny note here, I don't know how many people know this, but you run this rad network
Starting point is 01:29:38 of cool shows and content and your site alone is worth it. No, this stuff's great. I'm telling you, it's my go-to for comics. I love talking to Stephen about comics. If you want to go get more, of course, major spoilers is the place to go. or anything in particular going on right now that you'd like people to know? Well, let me throw a compliment back to the Johnson family. People who are patrons over at our Patreon page, patreon.com slash major spoilers.
Starting point is 01:29:58 If they are at the proper level, we send them art every month. We send them a new little postcard, original art. Maybe it's kind of like an NFT because we only print up as many as there are patrons. But one Carter Johnson has been doing the art for us for the last couple of months. And she has been doing a wonderful job. Last month, it was a Vision and Wanda piece, and this month she has done a really cute Falcon and Winter Soldier piece, and those will be going out in the next couple of weeks. So if you want some Carter Johnson art in your mailbox, then you can get some when you become a patron over at our Patreon page. Some of my favorite stuff she's done recently, and you can totally get that there.
Starting point is 01:30:41 So go check it out. That's going to do it. Steve and have a fantastic day. Anything in any advice? Oh, hydrated. That's right. Stay hydrant. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Stay hydrant. All right. Very well done. Guys, we're 25 minutes away from the launch of rock runners. Ooh, boy. Holy cow. Yep. You're going to like it.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Be the number one space rock runner in space. You tell the system that you should get all the contracts and get all the rocks because you are the best and deserve all the space credits. Yeah, that's right. That's all game talk from the game. Go check it out. That'll be up soon. All right. Let's do this here mashup we got, Brian. It's a mashup. All right. That's what we call them. It's from Jamie.
Starting point is 01:31:25 A mash up, you see. Yep, the mash up. And Jamie does these. He does incredible work on them. And today's no different. So we're going to play this. Trying to get Jamie on here. We're going to figure out a way to do this. Maybe this Thursday is a good one. I don't know. But we're going to bring Jamie on and just chat. We haven't had a chance to do that. Something we want to do for a long time. I either keep forgetting or whatever. We should get them on here and just talk about his process. how this stuff comes to be why these are the funniest things ever or why he titles them
Starting point is 01:31:52 things like cunning air lingus like this one i suspect yeah you may have an idea okay i might as well yeah anyway here it is enjoy ah this smells like a vagina yeah i should even say it was her vagina at first right a vagina not the i mean how many has glenneth paltrow smelled i don't want to know Hi, I'm a cat. Hi, kitty. And I sleep right there. Hey, kitty, why are you so shitty? They have three sensitive areas.
Starting point is 01:32:27 They show Brian's rear teeth, his crotch, and his eyeball. All up on him photos up there. Don't touch my sense. In that order. Yeah, in that order. Teeth, crotch, eyeball. Nailed it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:32:36 So I'm going to start doing pigs. So that's cool. I like a pig. You like a good pig? I like a good pig. I do like a good pig. Yeah. So that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:32:42 It's the dude from Father Ted, but not Father Ted. Oh, the other guy. The younger. The guy that's trying to be, he's like the young vicar trying to learn the ropes. Alden, the actor name is Alden something. Alden O Flaherty. Alden O Flaherty. Lift up the flaps because it might have. Sounds like my wedding night.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Uh-huh, lift up the flaps. Let me test you. The sun is shining. Also in my butthole. No, that's not it. Good, good, all right, good. I want to F you like barbecue chicken or whatever. I want to if you in my back of my truck.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I want to take you to meet my mother. There you go. That's cool. You don't need the Millennium Falcon. You can just take the hour and a half boat ride from Park McGee. There won't be any off green milk for you, but I promise you might have to pee, and there's nowhere to do that either, good luck. That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I'm Barks at Moon. What's your name? Oh, I'm bird with feathers. And your name? I bettel o'clock the corti. I had that 3D scan of me down at Denver Comic-Con that I turned into a 3D print. They gave me a big unit. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And you had the wiener. Well, gave me a bigger. Slightly, only barely, discernibly larger. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. Because then I just, you know, play around with it in my hands, and I'm completely unaware of everything. That's going to get edited out for Jamie. What's your carrier of choice?
Starting point is 01:34:01 Who are you going to fly over there? It's looking like, air lingus. Air Lingus. Go ahead. What? That's a thing? It's an air lingus. What is air lingus? I've never heard of that airline.
Starting point is 01:34:12 They're a very cunning, uh, airline provider. Yeah. Yeah, I hear it's a stimulating ride, though. That's right. It's your freaking airline you got to use for Ireland. Yeah, much to Tina's chagrin. We are not flying airlingous. I bought our tickets this weekend.
Starting point is 01:34:34 We are flying British Airways, which is great. We've flown, we flew to London on British Airways back in 1998, 1999. and one of the best flying experiences we've ever had, like great service, clean planes, it's just fantastic. They are known for good stuff. Do they oppress the Irish plane? They do, yes, exactly, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Okay, for years, like for hundreds of years, they are very oppressive toward Irish airlines, yeah. Well, you know, the Aer Lingus, there's like a dividing line, Catholics in the front of the plane, Protestants in the back, of the plane. Gotcha. And an ailingus will occasionally leave a bomb somewhere, that sort of thing. That's right, yes.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah, we got it all figured out. All right, well, that was great, Jamie, as always. Thank you for your hard work and efforts in bringing us these fantastic mashups. It's going to do it for today's show. A quick reminder that Rock Runners is going up in just 20 minutes or so. You can find out all you need to know at frogpans.com slash rock runners or the Kickstarter will be live and I'll be posting that on Twitter and all that other stuff. so do check it out if you're interested it's going to be a really really fun game we tested
Starting point is 01:35:48 the hell out of it played it a ton everybody who played it loved it i tried to play it with people who don't necessarily just want to give me rave reviews because their friends or family i gave copies of people who i noticed whoever and that way they you know they can they can decide on their own unbiased whether they like it or not and all the word back was positive so i feel pretty good about it and i'm i'm excited to get it in people's hands so that'll be about 20 minutes from now details at frogfiance.com slash rock runners
Starting point is 01:36:18 okay Brian um okay Scott do you have anything else are you good you don't have anything you know I'm good yeah we got our we're recording our next last episode of America's next stop podcaster tonight I know the
Starting point is 01:36:32 the feeds are behind because there's some amazing production work that Hammond and Bobby have to do to that show to make it ready for you guys but we're coming close to the end of recording time with A&P, and I'm excited. I got sent something from Bobby for you. You did.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You got links for the... No, no, no. This is something different, separate. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, let me see if I can find this real quick. Yep, here it is. I'm going to play it for you.
Starting point is 01:37:02 He said, Okay. I'm just going to leave this sound of Brian laughing during A&P right here, he says. I'm not saying you should do anything with it, but, you know, if it ended up on TV, TMS one day, dot, dot, dot, dot, he says. Yeah, right. So here it is.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Enjoy. That's a pretty good laugh. Yeah, I'll use that for stuff. Anyway, thanks, Bobby, for thinking of it. Yes. All right. Let's remember the context of what made me throw that laugh out. He didn't even give any, but, hey, do I need any?
Starting point is 01:37:35 No, is the answer. I'm trying to sound like Al Pacino or rock out of podcasting. I don't know what the deal was. It's pretty good. All right. So something that I enjoy doing every once in a while when I don't have new requests, hint, hint. If you've got a birthday or an anniversary in April, you want to celebrate with a cover on the show, please let me know, email or just go to frogpants.com slash TMS. You'll find the form to do requests right there. We got a lot of openings here in April. So do something about it. Oh, happy birthday to my daughter today. I was going to do a whole thing and I forgot. Oh, which one? Taylor, my oldest. She just turned 20.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Oh, my gosh. She turns 27 today. Wow. Oh, my God. What the hell, dude? No, that's not right. Hold on. 26, 27.
Starting point is 01:38:22 27. That's bananas. All right. Anyway, sorry, I hadn't quite dealt with that yet. Well, you know, she should have sent in a request. Her loss. Yeah. But Leslie Victorine, Logan's mom, Leslie, sent in an email one year ago saying,
Starting point is 01:38:38 oh, you should play this on any, yeah, on any Monday, yeah, on any Monday, morning coming up in the inner future when you don't have a specific request because Billy Joe Armstrong of Green Day is doing this new thing where during this little short pandemic that we're going to go through he's releasing new covers every Monday and has it has only been a year feels like a decade since Billy Joe Armstrong did that here's what's cool he did this for several months three three months maybe and then he put out an album collecting all of those covers. And it's so good. It was called No Fun Mondays. And one of the first covers he did. The third cover he did, as a matter of fact, was this one, a cover of the song that
Starting point is 01:39:22 was performed by the Bengals, but written by a guy named Christopher. We all know now that that was Prince. Here is a song, Manic Monday by Billy Joe Armstrong. Very nice. All right. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new show. Please come back then, won't you? Six o'clock already I was just in the middle of a dream I was kissing Nalantino by a crystal blue Italian stream But I can't be late, cause then I guess I just won't get paid. These are the days when you wish your bed was already made. It's just another manic Monday.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I wish it was Sunday, because that's my fun day. I don't have to run it. Another Meredith Monday I'd to catch an early train Got to be in work by nine And if I had an airplane I still couldn't make it on time Because it takes me so long
Starting point is 01:41:02 Just to figure out where I'm gonna wear Laver on the train but the boss is already there It's just another manic money I wish it was Sunday Because that's my funny I don't have to run me It's just another manic money
Starting point is 01:41:33 All of these lights Why did my lover have to pick last night To get down What's night? Doesn't it matter that I have to beat the proper bus and boy makes down? It tells me in his bedroom voice. Come on honey, let's go make some noise. It's just another man.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Monday, I wish it was Sunday because that's not fun. That's my funding My I don't have to run in It's just another man at Monday I wish it was Sunday Because that's my funding My I don't have to run day
Starting point is 01:42:30 It's just another manic Monday This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. That's a great cheek, Neb Jolla and his men.

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