The Morning Stream - TMS 2099: Sack Snyder

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

Q-Ant-non. Booby Franks & Boogers Talks About Wooden Satellites. Chrysler the Redeemer, Transform and Roll OUT! My Echo was misbehaving, so I punched her. Podcasting is just microphone collecting ...for people who like to talk. Beans! Beans! Millions Of Beans!! Jesus Saves With Coupons, You Can Too! Wesupplywood. Hairy Chasm of Pete Townsend's Armpit. Leave the Chat and Ascend to a Higher Plane. Punch your echo. Utah Inflection. Roy Orbison Becomes Catwoman. Tumor of Passive Aggressiveness with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS. Qenton. Boobie Frankson-Buggers talks about wooden satellites. Chrysler, the Redeemer, transform and roll out. My echo is misbehaving, so I punched her. Podcasting is just microphone collecting for people who like to talk. Beans, billions of beans. Jesus saves with coupons, and so can you.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We supply wood. Harry chasm of Pete Townsend's armpit. Leave the chat and ascend to a higher plane. Punch your echo. Utah infection. Roy Orbis becomes catwoman, tumor of passive aggressiveness with Wendy, and more on this episode of the morning stream. Did Taylor Swift actually predict COVID three years before it happened?
Starting point is 00:00:42 No, she did not. I hope every one of you get uncontrollable explosive diarrhea. Americans can be very useful. This. This. This is the morning stream. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. As the song indicates, this is the morning stream for Thursday, April 15th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. Brian Abbott over there.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Hello, Brian. Hi there. How are you? I'm all right. I'm a little tired. It's slept like crap. It's really windy and high-pressurey and strange right now in the weather. And I can't sleep when it's like that.
Starting point is 00:01:26 She can't do it. Just tossed and turn it all night. leaned over. Oh, I did have a dream, though, and I punched my echo so hard. I don't think it works anymore. I think it broke. Oh, no, really? Yeah. I literally, I like rolled over and, and for some reason in this dream was swinging. I'm glad it was the other direction and not toward Kim, because I always would feel really bad. Oh, my God. No kidding. But I smacked. You're protecting Kim from the echo. Exactly right. So I, my full fist punched the, it's the original echo, the tall one. Oh, gotcha. Right. Right. Right. The.
Starting point is 00:02:00 big, tall cylinder. Yeah, and I whacked that thing. That's got a good, it's got a good surface area for punching. Big time, big time. Way better than the little puck. It goes flying across the room, and I haven't, even unplugged. I haven't had a chance to plug it in and check it, but, yeah, it may not work now. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I have no idea. I've had it since, like, day one, right? I think it was like a week one launch version of the Echo. It wouldn't be that big. You're going to walk into the room. Please don't hit me. Please don't hit me. I promise I'll stay with you
Starting point is 00:02:31 But please don't hit me Yeah I don't want to create that kind of relationship with the A word It's telling Siri that it ran into a door Right yeah on all the other What's her name? What's her name on the Microsoft one? The Halo lady Oh Cortana
Starting point is 00:02:49 Cortana is like I can get you out of there I know people right Right exactly Tell me what's really going on Yeah And by the way, this is not us making fun or life of domestic abuse. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I just want to clear that up before you get your little email hands all warmed up and your knuckles cracked. All right. Call me up everybody. It's a little joke. All right. So I punched my echo and that's fine. But let me tell you what. The wind is kicking up all the dust.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So I'm all stuffy and freaking, you know, weird that way. I'm annoyed because I just found out some friends mine up the street or taking some kind of Bahamas. trip unvaccinated and I'm just annoyed that people are like yeah we're going anyway man screw you we may be be and I'm like they also could have had the shots by now they just aren't bothering to worry about it so I'm annoyed with really yeah are they but they're not anti they just are lazy yeah kind of like they'll get the vaccine but they really don't care when they get it I think so I don't know they're just sort of me menerminy the only good thing today was we went outside and Tesla man waved at us that's the only good news today
Starting point is 00:03:57 Tesla man, waved. Tesla man brightening your day. That seems like, what is this? Upside Downland? I know. Superman is a bizarro man. Now we can't, we don't know what to do. But, uh, but, uh, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 He like neighbor across street. Yeah. He is good. My car run on electricity. Uh, so anyway, it's just a weird morning, a weird night. And I'm grumpy, but not for TMS. TMS cheers me up. I have a good time on here.
Starting point is 00:04:26 So chat. room. Thank you for being a part of that and being here live with us today. We appreciate it. Everybody at home, you guys are great. You're pretty cool. Lennon, where did you get that number? 50% of Republicans and 80% of Utahans won't vaccinate? That's not correct at all. Is that really? I heard the only statistic I've heard about that is one out of five people across the country are refusing to get the vaccine. Well, that I could see. That sounds about right. But 80% of Utahans, I guess he's probably joking there. We're doing good here.
Starting point is 00:05:01 We got like a high rate of overall vaccination completion stuff. And I forgot what the total adult vaccination, fully vaccination rate was as of last week. But it was freaking, freaking high. As of 20, as of April 14th, 30,000 vaccinations and no new COVID deaths in Utah. Very good. That's very good, right? It's pretty good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:25 For our little state. And then, oh, as the quantum feline says, there was a poll this morning saying 43% of Republicans won't vaccinate. Is that true? Why? Why? I mean, you know, if it's one out of five Americans, you've got to figure it may be skews one direction or the other, right? Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's a good point. Yeah, I don't want to blame it all on my former party, but they seem like they may be on the wrong side of history over there with their vaccination decisions. is my guess so well and so I was looking up the numbers I did see but this is as a March
Starting point is 00:06:04 this is a month ago and you guys probably have ramped up since then good reasons why Utah ranks last for percentage of fully vaccinated adults oh we're ranked last is that true you were you were in
Starting point is 00:06:15 the beginning of March specifically 6.1% of Utahans were fully vaccinated as of as of the beginning of March however I did see that number crank way up in the last like in the in the more recent news articles well uh that's good that we're up
Starting point is 00:06:32 i thought we were i thought we were all we were all good on the on the stuff you also you also have a bunch of numbers like um you know 30% of utons are younger than 18 oh well if that's skewing the data yeah we always have young kids we're overloaded with kids here that's our deal that skews the numbers that skews the numbers down yeah if that's what they're comparing it or if if those numbers are in the math and that math is effed You know, it's Fox 13, so it's, uh, okay, our local Fox 13 affiliate. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:02 They're not associated with the Fox Fox people, but they're. No, no, not the Fox Foxx people. They're also not the best local news either. They're okay. I haven't watched that stuff in a while. I shouldn't say, but, uh, yeah, anyway, I'm, uh, yeah, I hope we keep going, though. We got to keep them up. Keep them up, everybody.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Get in there. Get it done. Yep. Exactly. And don't go to the Bahamas until you get vaccinated. Come on. Let's not spread this nonsense to other countries. countries and islands, especially islands, especially Bahamas, man.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, this lady and her new, her new husband, they don't listen to this show. So it'll be okay. We're not going to. Okay, good. All right. Hey, you know what I did last night? What'd you do? Continuing on the preparing for the Oscar Trail.
Starting point is 00:07:41 One of my favorite things and Tina's favorite things to do every year is to watch all of the shorts. Watch the shorts. Yeah, watch the shorts. Eat my shorts. So like the live action shorts, the animated shorts, and the documentary shorts, because it's kind of like what we see sometimes with America's Next Stop podcaster, how when you're forced to tell your story in a more confined area, it concentrates all the really important parts and leaves out all the fluff and crap. Like, you know, maybe, maybe Zack Snyder should go on the other way with Justice League and made it a short. Yeah. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't think you're wrong. But, uh, so we started watching the live action shorts. And there are a couple, um, already amazing ones. I should have looked these up to see if they're on, um, never look at those. I need to do that. I need to make that. They're really, really good. And for 30 bucks, if you've got a, an independent movie chain in your area, for 30 bucks,
Starting point is 00:08:46 you can get a bundle that's got all the live action animated and documentary, all in one. um that it'll watch you can play it on your chrome cast your apple tv or whatever oh that's cool i want to watch that so we have so we have landmark if you go to shorts dot tv uh you should be able to figure out like what you've got in your in your um area but it's um yeah it's part of for us it's landmark movie theaters they're like a um a local independent movie chain and so they're saying yeah we're shown in our theaters but you know if you want to buy and watch at home 30 bucks will give you the bundle of all 15 or 18 whatever it is um it's true of animated shorts and all that too like i can get it yeah all included in that bundle
Starting point is 00:09:34 oh my so far we've only watched the live action ones and like you said there are some incredible ones there is one i wanted to see the um the names let's see here uh yeah okay so feeling through absolutely incredible. Feeling through? Feeling through. It's a... Oh, is it like I'm feeling through with this? I'm through with it.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I'm feeling through. Is that it? Sort of. It's kind of a little play. A guy in New York befriends late at night befriends a blind and deaf person and helps him get where he's going.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's cool. Oh, like feeling through. Feeling through. But I mean, it's, you know, it means it's like one of these multiple meanings. sure um uh wide i which is the israeli submission we didn't find as good just didn't make any sense two distant strangers is like a groundhog day in a short in a 25 minute uh short and it's really good and then the present from palestine was um uh was really good from who oh palestine from palestine
Starting point is 00:10:45 oh palestinestein it's all the same palestinians the palestinians the palestinians from Palestine. That's cool. That's got the the subtitles, yeah, I assume. Yes, but very, like the story's told without much dialogue. And it's about a father and his daughter who are crossing the border to go get some groceries and a present for his wife and the troubles that they run into with Arab-only entrances and exits versus Palestinian entrances and exits. Oh, interesting. Hard-hitting content then.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It is. It's really, really good. So those are four of the five live actions. We still have one left to watch. But so far, these never disappoint. They're always, like, really, really good, like I say, because they have to condense all of the important parts of the story into a 30-minute or less package.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I think so many, there's so many people who just never get to see these because they just don't seek them out. Like, they hear about them, with the awards they know they exist they just don't get it's almost like they're there but they're not there so it's cool that there's a way to get those yeah totally trust me folks seek them out it's like watching five really good movies in the in the course of an hour and a half that's pretty good yeah that's the way we want things in this world it's the opposite it's the anti-snider cut is what that is exactly and yeah and a cracketow it's funny i've seen the trailer
Starting point is 00:12:18 for Army of the Dead and I'm laughing because I'll be in Vegas the day that comes out. Oh, I love it. I know. I think we're going to download it and watch it. Actually, we're currently, should I say what we're currently discussing? Yeah, I think it's okay. We're, we're thinking about, um, it's not 100% solid yet, so don't, you know, don't 100%
Starting point is 00:12:36 count on it, but we are thinking about sacking it just as like a brand new release on film sack. I think that would be fun. Yeah. Our first ever like sacking a week old movie. Yeah. I think the closest we got was probably Star Wars. Well, what was the first JJ one?
Starting point is 00:12:56 I forget the name of it now. Force Awakens? I think we did Force Awakens like two weeks later or something. Didn't we do that? I don't remember film sacking Force Awakens. Did we really? I thought we did. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Am I thinking of this wrong? It really could be just my brain. Hold on. Force. It was a spoilt. episode. Is that what it was? Yeah, there it is. Star Wars episode 7. Our big spoiler episode
Starting point is 00:13:22 of episode 7 of Star Wars, normal people call it Star Wars, the Force Awakens. Monday, the 21st of December, 2015, so like what, two weeks after release? Yeah? Yeah, that's funny. So this would be the closest we've done to that. I mean, I guess was it
Starting point is 00:13:36 an actual film sack, or was it just the four of us? I mean, I guess it's always the four of us, just jabbering on about crap. Well, let's see, I'm in the pie here. see what it does. I got, uh... Because obviously we can't have a clip. Please, it's as well.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. Two movies. Yeah. Well, you can do the little side stories, too. The Rogue One and the, uh, the book. Yeah, that's a regular episode. We didn't watch along or anything. We just did a full on like, uh... Yeah, it's an hour and a half, hour and 38 minutes. We probably didn't, I didn't do clips because this was a theater only thing. So it was no way to do those, right? Yeah. And it was only an hour and 38. But imagine, you know, we can still talk about chicks in the bucket. We can still talk about
Starting point is 00:14:11 what gross got out the most. Yep. 2015, baby. There was only one movie that mattered that year. We all know what it was. Exactly. All right. That's awesome. Shorts, everybody, get them.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Get your shorts while. They'll get the shorts. Shorts.TV to find out where you can stream them in your area. And I think they're going to be, they will be on Amazon Prime for rental or Apple TV Plus or whatever for rental pretty soon. Gotcha. Yeah. Fantastic. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Well, guess what, everyone. It's time for a little bit of science and your diet. It's important. I mean, we gave you a little science this morning about, you know, we talked viruses and things like that. But we need more. And to do that, we play this. I think science is cool. Is it, though?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Well, we'll find out today with our regular science expert guest man. Bobby Frankenberger, who's now off a vacation and home finally in front of his real microphone. Although I think you just sort of took it with you, right? You sort of traveled with your stuff? I brought another one. I have a problem. where I buy lots of microphones.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So I just had... Yeah, exactly, right? Yeah. So, and so, yeah, I just had another microphone. It was actually, it's a nice... Anybody who wants to get a nice entry-level USB microphone, it's an ATR 20... It's an audio technica, 2100.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh, that's a good one, huh? It was my first sort of real microphone, and it's great quality. Yeah, you sound it right. And the times I've heard you while you were... remote. Yeah, so it's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You either buy a lot of microphones when you're a podcaster like I did early on and then once you find one you love you never buy another one. Yeah, that's this one. This high all, which all three of us have exactly the same one.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah, these PR 40s. Why don't we all just start here, podcasters, by the way? I figured out, here's the secret to making money with your podcast. Quit spending money on equipment for your podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, that's not the important part. The important part is the content. The equipment will come later. But yeah, like the PR 40 is so right. Don't you also feel that or find that the people who tell you to stop spending money on your podcast are people who have already spent money on their podcast. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like advice that comes from experience and it's like wisdom, but they're also in a privileged position. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody, look, the PR 40s, these high old microphones, which everyone I know uses, they're not cheap. This is like a $400 or something.
Starting point is 00:16:44 plus microphone and you don't start you know if you're going to I'm going to podcast for fun and I'm going to go spend $500 on them. Nobody does that. So start small work your way up. Exactly. That's true. Start with SM58 and then go to the hile. Yeah. BioCow's throwing in a vote for Blue Snowball. He thinks that that's a cool mic. It's all right. Does the job get it done. I just don't like the ball. I don't mind the ball. I just don't like that
Starting point is 00:17:14 It seems to pick up a lot more room noise, even if you've got it set to one of those condenser mics. Singular directional, yeah. Over here, I got the, I got a blue microphone, but it's one of those, um, let's it call. Oh, I forgot the name. A Yeti? Yeti, thank you. It's the Yeti style, but the World of Warcraft branded one. I use that exclusively on my PC now, and I really like that thing.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So there's another one that's, that's about 200, but it'll get a lot of stuff done that you're trying to do. Anyway, well, now that we've had microphone talk... Is that all science? That's not science, right? That's it for science. Yeah, science is done. There's science in there. Science of sound.
Starting point is 00:17:51 No, for real, we're going to talk about science and we're going to talk about, okay, so Brian, correct me if I'm wrong, but I swear we touched on this once as a news article way back. Not way back, but some time ago, we talked about a satellite that was made out of wood. That's right. And we were like... We sang the young MC song, I think, while we did it. I think we might have. And we were like, he, he, he, wood, it's a wood thing.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And there were both wiener jokes and also just ha-ha science. You have a wooden thing. How dumb. I guess we don't need metal anymore. Ha, ha, ha. But we didn't look that deep. We just sort of did a cursory thing. It was actually my first science, like official science segment on the show.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Oh, well, there. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. So are you providing us an update or we just, is this? Sort of. It's related. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Let's find out more then from Boobie Frankenbugger. uh who has come out of the show today to talk about it tell me more and what is the latest regarding the wooden satellite and why it exists yeah frank and bugger reporting um so yeah the satellite story was back in the day was just a japanese research company was working together with some uh some wood provider over there to to do some tests and plausibility studies and and hopefully build a a wooden satellite that would go into orbit. And I remember at the time having some skepticism about it, like, why is this really going to be?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Because they were talking all about how it was going to reduce, you know, clutter in space. And I was very skeptical about that idea. But this is a little bit different. This is, there's a wooden satellite that is going to be sent into orbit. hopefully by the end of this year that was made by students in, I think, the Netherlands working together with a plywood company called Wisa Plywood. And yeah, they're going to...
Starting point is 00:19:54 Sounds like it's owned by Jar Jar Binks. Yeah, I was going to say, Jar JARBinks are concerned. We need some wood. Me supply wood. Exactly. Oh, wait. They don't mean me supply wood, right? No, it's W-I-S-A.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Okay. W-S-A. I thought it was like, but that is probably like an intentional subliminal. Well, it works even if it isn't. Yeah. We supply wood. Oh, wow, clever.
Starting point is 00:20:22 We supply wood. All right. So they, so the model that they're basing this on is it's a really small satellite, first of all. It's 10 centimeters cubed. So, and it's based on. a CubeSat model. Have you ever heard of CubSats? No, never in my life. A CubeSat is this model for a satellite that is supposed to be incredibly scalable, very small, and a ton of the satellites that are being sent into orbit to provide internet, I think, are using the CubeSat model. They're just very small,
Starting point is 00:21:01 easy to put together and you just light and you just throw them up there with like one or two little instruments in them that do a little thing that you want them to do. Maybe it's collect data or take pictures or just send a signal or whatever. It's very small. You just throw something in there and then
Starting point is 00:21:20 you shoot it up into space and then it does what you need it to do. It's supposed to be very the idea is for it to be really easy to do and for companies and research institutions to be able to more easily access
Starting point is 00:21:35 this type of capability and that's what they're basing this on this wooden satellite they want to see if they can create it out of plywood and do it in its so it's easy to see this sort of thing as like how serious could they be
Starting point is 00:21:55 they're just doing an experiment or this is just a fluke they get people focused on you know what work they're doing so they can get more funding blah blah blah but it sounds like they legit want to build a wooden satellite for actual reasons and this isn't just the fluke.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I don't know if it's for actual reasons. I actually suspect that it's just an sort of marketing ploy by the plywood company. They saw like, oh, there's some people that are making these and they're using our plywood to make it. Because, okay, the CubeSat is what it is, but there are like other versions of the CubeSat idea that get used and this one that they used is called kit set and it's specifically an educational
Starting point is 00:22:39 satellite build platform for students right and so the kit sat is a cube sat model but it's the idea is that it's made with cheap easy to obtain materials so students can just learn and it's not actually intended to be put up in orbit any of the kit sets are not intended to be put in orbit but it's like if this were made out of space ready materials it could go into orbit so it's a good educational tools like like you're kind of building a real satellite it's just that you're making it out of something that couldn't really go into orbit right what's going to happen is if it did uh aliens would find it kind of Picard style and go you know captain the satellite appears to be made of wood and they go to commercial right yeah that's right that's what this feels like one of those
Starting point is 00:23:26 one of those episodes by the way I found out when we first talked about this it was January 7th a Thursday, of course, because that's when we started having you on. January 7th, 2021, thanks to bomb bats in the chat. By the way, you can search through the TMS archives like you can FilmSack. He's got this URL TMS.comsac.com. And it works just like FilmSack does. It's great. I know I do love the fact that Quicksack is kind of now the generic term because he's doing it for soundography. I imagine I can probably get Coverville going with that. It's pretty cool. Does he have like show notes in or like notes about the episodes in a database or something? Yeah, but it's all our dumb, it's all our dumb red title show notes. So it's not like. Okay. But you can say, you know, wouldn't sound lights with Bobby as long as that was the title.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Right. As long as that was the dumb thing that you guys said at the end of the show. Yeah. It's all cool. It's very cool. It just digs into the RSS feed and you can find stuff from all over the place. Like, let's see, I search for the word shit. just to see if we ever put it in our notes.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It's about 12 episodes where we swear in the notes. Yeah. And that sounds about right. Something like from episode 640 or no, 695, Tomorrowland Today. You go all the way back. 499 was called Nugget Fetish. Mmm. Nugget fetish.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Anyway, you can also do that with FilmSack and everything else. So go check out that URL. It's TMS.cq.com. All right. Well, that's fantastic. Square, sorry, wooden things are great. We like wood, more wood, is what we're saying. And it's not like, you know, you can't really biodegrade in space without any oxygen or... That's what they always say.
Starting point is 00:25:14 They always say. They literally, literally this satellite is just going to go up with some antenna on it and an arm with a camera on it. It's going to take a selfie. It really feels just like there's probably going to be like burned into the size. that the selfie can be will say like Wisa Plywood I can't hear you say that without thinking Jar Jar Binks, Brian killed
Starting point is 00:25:38 him and destroyed it. One thing that they are doing that apparently, that does sound actually pretty neat is that they're going to be broadcasting on on an amateur radio channels for satellite communication. They're sort of testing
Starting point is 00:25:53 and demonstrating the accessibility of radio amateur satellite communication. on low power receivers dedicated to amateur radio. So it will sort of test out, if it gets up there successfully, it will sort of test out that ability, which could be another way to really just be opening up satellite science, you know, this kind of stuff, which sounds,
Starting point is 00:26:21 on the one hand, that's exciting. But on the other hand, I kind of worry, what does it mean that we're going to just like open up the ability for anybody Exactly. Like crowdsourcing, throwing junk in space. Fantastic. Yeah. Yeah, let's fill it up. More junk. All the better. That way we get to Wally Times where you've got to push through a ton of it to get out. Exactly. I love that idea. All right. Well, Bobby is always great to get an update on this and to chat more. Anything else going on in your, let's talk about your show a little bit. Tell people where they can find it and get more science in their lives. It's called All Around Sciences, our weekly science podcast. Last week,
Starting point is 00:26:59 The latest episode out there right now, we talked about ants and how ants can be, can undergo some of the same effects that humans undergo when they are quarantined. They did a study on ants and isolated them and saw how it affected their tiny ant brains. Do they get really conspiratorial and like antibaxi and stuff while they're all together when they're all separated like that? Yeah, they all kind of form in the colony. All of these isolated ants come together and form a cue on the ground. They're not really sure what that means yet. That great big cue made of ants? I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Can they move as a unison, like one big cue moving around the thing? That'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. And then there's 17 of them. All right. I'm in. Oh, 17 is the 17th letter. Oh, my gosh, we've cracked the code.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Trust in the plan, you guys. Trust in the plan. All right. We're recording one more. I wanted to mention on Monday you should check out the episode because right now there's a lot of talk in the news this week about the Johnson and Johnson vaccine being sort of paused. The CDC and FDA recommended that and then everybody went ahead and paused it. And we're going to be talking a lot in our recording tonight on the episode that will come out on Monday. about that and what that means whether it's a good idea i have thoughts about that um whether
Starting point is 00:28:31 they should have done that and um and yeah i think this we're getting to a a troubling place in in public communication about these vaccines in a time when we're supposed to we really need to be um getting people as vaccinated as quickly as possible because we're trying to outrun and beat these variants that are catching up with us. Well, not only that, but there's this tendency, I mean, there's so many things that are happening in combination here, right? Like you've got unprecedented speed getting these two people's arms. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And what comes with that is hopefully a lot of efficiency and transparency, but you can't avoid problems, mistakes, roadblocks, and issues because that's just the nature of of something this big on this level of rollout. And so I'm not surprised that stuff like this comes up. The AstraZeneca thing had a similar pause and somewhere in Europe because of issues that were similar to this. Yeah, we'll be talking about that too.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But then there's the whole like, you know, somebody shared the comparison yesterday that regular old standard birth control pills increase women's chances of blood clots by some horrific percentage and always have. And no one cares about that. So there's also this public perception thing. thing of blood clots,
Starting point is 00:29:53 they're going to kill us all, even though you're, right, and you're thinking that as you're taking this pill you've been taking for 30 years that increases your chance for blood clots way more than the Johnson Johnson vaccine would. So it's like this just crazy confluence of information, misinformation,
Starting point is 00:30:09 confusion, rapid release, and then everybody freaking out. And it's a weird, it's a weird time, baby. It's a really nuanced, tricky conversation to have to because it is important what's happening. and the results of these and everything. But, you know, that's what we'll be talking about. So if you're interested in that, check out the show this coming Monday.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It'll be out. That's all around science. It's just get it. It's the name of the podcast. You can find it. Or just go to all around science.com. Get it wherever you get it, everybody. Bobby Frankenberger.
Starting point is 00:30:40 We'll see you next time. Thank you. Bye now. Bye. Bye, bye, Bobby. All right, Bobby is left the building. Bobby has left the building. The quicksack tab is a memory hog.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I got to close that. Look at my memory. Look at my RAM. Look at it go and watch it drop again. Whoa. All right. Let's be done with that. We are done with that.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Let's move on to this. Time for the news. Brought to you by. By the way, did you notice today's episode number is 2099? That's awesome. Yeah, we're almost... If we were a Marvel series, we would have come up with one good character and a bunch of really crappy ones.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Nice. That's how awesome this is. We're not going to have any zeros for a while, by the way. Think of this. We're not going to have any... No, how does that work? Yeah, not until 3,000. We'll have zeros tomorrow with 2,100.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, yeah. We'll have zeros at the end of the number. Right, right. Just that first number. Okay, anyways. Right, right, right. The second number won't be a zero for a long time. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:31:47 So coming up today on Coverville, it's Roy. Orbison, he would have been celebrating his birthday next week. It would have been 85, Roy Orbison. So grab your pretty woman and ubi-dubi yourself down to Coverville, coverville. Coverville.tvil dot TV or Twitch TV slash Coverville. And here's some covers of and by Roy Orbison. You're going to hear stuff that you maybe have never heard by folks like low straitjackets, the Flanders, Morrissey, and Hootie and the Blowfish.
Starting point is 00:32:20 just to name a few. It's not going to be Diamond Day with his cover of Pretty Woman. I'm not doing Pretty Woman by Van Halen. It's a great cover, but everybody's heard it. Maybe you haven't heard the one by Pomplamoose. I have actually, and it's very good. I like that one. It is very good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Anyway, so there you go. That's Coverville coming up at 1 p.m. mountain time today at coverville. or Twitch.tv or Twitch.tv slash coverville. I will admit when I was younger, I used to think that any time Roy Overson showed up in something, like the traveling willberries, for example. Yeah, yeah. I just, it just
Starting point is 00:32:55 felt like they were all bringing their grandma with them. You know what I mean? It kind of did, right? Because, I mean, even George Harrison and Bob Dylan weren't the age of Roy Orbison, but he also just kind of looked like a little catwoman, just like a little
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't mean catwoman like Batman Catwoman I mean like you know a cat lady Like yeah He'd just look like a lady Had the big cataract glasses on And then he'd seen pretty woman You're like oh right okay That guy that's him
Starting point is 00:33:23 We know him he's cool Exactly Yeah yeah just a weird Yeah born in 1936 So 85 by my count Am I doing that wrong He would have been 85 or died at 85
Starting point is 00:33:35 Would have been He died at the age of 52 in 1988 Really? He was only 52? I know. Yeah. It didn't look like it, right? For someone who looked like the grandpa that they brought along to the traveling wildberries, he just always had kind of an old soul kind of look. I guess he always did even when it was a lot younger, but that's young, did I?
Starting point is 00:33:56 It is. That bums me out. Yeah, I would have been, my mom's 82, so yeah, he would have been just older than her. I'm curious. Like, Bob Dylan was 1937. 1938? They're about the same age, right? They're pretty close.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Oh, 41. Okay, so Bob Dylan's going to be turning 80 in May. What? Yeah. Wow. All right. Yeah. So a couple grandpas.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Times are a change in, as Bob Dylan might say. They are. Yep. So watch for that. All right. A man. There's a story about a man. A man.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Man. Accidentally shot himself in the face. No, he didn't do that. He shoots himself. not in the face, while trying on a pair of pants at a Walmart dressing room. Oh, you know, as you do.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. Yeah, that's what you do. Did this happen at my son's Walmart? I'm curious, because it sounds like something that would happen at my son's Walmart. Does he have stories a lot about weird things that happen there?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yes. Most recent one, this one cracks me up, just visualizing it. So they, you know, routinely go through and when it's closing time, the closing crew comes in and they close all the doors they go through all of the aisles make sure nobody's in there they go through all through all the bathrooms etc and one of the guys that that works with tristan looked under you know went to the bathroom in the men's room looked under all the stalls saw the shoes and bottom of the pants that he thought belonged to one of the people he just let in one of the closers right and didn't think about it and um uh turned out to be you know a customer this
Starting point is 00:35:38 It just was stuck in the bathroom. But here's the best part. So as soon as they close the doors and start doing the closing and Tristan's cleaning, you know, doing his counting his till and all that stuff, making sure everything rings up, they turn on their music that they like to listen to while they're closing. And as soon as they do that, this guy comes out of the bathroom and just starts dancing in one of the aisles. Whoa, really? Just like randomly dancing in one of the like. Oh my gosh. That's great.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Did we get any cameras out? Get the cameras out. They didn't have cameras out. I'd be like, Tristan, can you please come back to the bathroom area by menswear, please? Tristan. Tristan escorted this guy out who was, whatever he was on. He was stoned or something or something. Loving that music.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And just visualizing. What I'm visualizing is the Fortnite dance. That's what I want it to be like the. Oh, yeah, that one. I love that Fortnite dance. Hey, chat room, if somebody could give. I'll giff that if someone can clip Brian dancing. When he first danced there at the top of the story or the mid part of the story, I would love that.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Someone sent that to me. Sure. Sure. That'd be great. Well, this guy, nod at your son's Walmart. Not at my son's Walmart. No. He was rushed to a hospital after police said he accidentally shot himself with trying on pants inside of a dressing room at the McMinville Walmart.
Starting point is 00:37:00 McMinville. I don't know where that is. I'm looking through the story and I'm not saying it. I don't see it either. I'll look it up. We have a hospital name. Oh, you keep telling the story. I'll figure out where McMinnville is.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It says the shooting was reported Friday afternoon inside the store on North Chancery Street. There's another hint as to where it is. McMinville police say the man had entered a fitting room to try on his pants and his pistol fell out of his pocket, hitting the floor and discharged. It struck him in the leg. Oh, right next to his peen. Tennessee, by the way. Oh, it's Tennessee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Morgan, Arkansas, just south of Portland. You know, this one, this one is McMinnville, Tennessee. All right. The man was transported to Ascension St. Thomas River Park Hospital. They should shorten the name of their hospital. Yeah, they really should. That's really long. With a bullet lodged in his leg,
Starting point is 00:37:53 according to investigators, an update on his condition was not immediately provided. No other injuries reported inside of the store. The incident remains under investigation by the McVinville Police Departmento. Oh, there's the... Three people, by the way, with clips. That's fantastic. You guys, John. Johnny on the spot.
Starting point is 00:38:09 J.K. Grammer first and then BioCow and then Cat and Kipper. All right. What I got to do is, oh, look at this. All right. I'm just going to quickly capture this. If I don't do it now, I'm going to forget. So hold on one second. I have a little process here.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Sure. Please do. It takes me just a moment. This is a good gift. You never let a good gift go. In the meantime, I'll tell the joke about, oh, I feel like I'm dying. Can you please take me to Ascension St.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Thomas River Park Hospital. He can't get it out. Yeah. Because he died, see? Yeah. Taking so long to say the name of the hospital, see, that he died. It's fantastic. All right, I think I got you in full rotation here.
Starting point is 00:38:54 There we go. All right, we'll take care of that later. Thank you for everybody for your participation. Brian is now immortalized in a dancing gift once again. Good, good. I'm sure that will only be used for good and not used for evil. Never for evil. Never.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Hey, there's one I pulled for you. the who remember the band the who i love the band the who still love the band the who yeah they're still together they they do the the belly out at the uh that is their greatest hit yeah uh like to see is scott's copy of the who's greatest hits the first thing is a picture looking up pete townsen's shirt and seeing his belly as he's doing the windmill flopping around waiting for a football to start up again it was great that's right exactly well anyway they were in reuniting with hines after 50 years hines like the ketchup people.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Ketchup. Yep. And the beans people, specifically. And the beans people. After 50 years to launch limited edition, Beans means the Who can.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's awesome. Are you into this? Do you want one? I want to buy one of these cans. I want one of these cans. Yep. It's pretty great. The Who are marking,
Starting point is 00:39:56 let's see, marking the release of our new expanded edition of, quote, the Who sells out, or the Who sell out and raising money for charities with their Heinz, Beans means the Who Canes.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Have you, you remember that Alden cover, right. It's got vaguely, vaguely. It's got Townsend using a massive bottle of deodorant under his armpits and then it's got Daltree sitting in a bathtub
Starting point is 00:40:17 full of, chock full of Heinz beans, Heinz baked beans. Really? Yes. That's foul. Why do I not know that out? What's the name of the album? The Who Sell Out. The Who Sell. So it is that album.
Starting point is 00:40:33 All right. It's that album, yep. I'm pulling it up. Oh, I don't like it. He's got like beans dripping out of his face and stuff. He apparently was in that. It's like the beans, like a giant can, but they had to use other cans that apparently were in a fridge. And they dumped these beans into this bathtub. And they're still freezing cold. And he had to sit in that bathtub for who knows how long while they were taking pictures.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And he got the flu from it. Oh, you're kidding, really? He's lucky you didn't get like freaking botulism or something else. Botulism and hypothermia. Oh, that's so gross. I couldn't do it. Which side grosses you more, though? Pete Townsend's armpit?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Well. His big old schnaz in his armpit or is it? Townsend was definitely in better shape then, so I'm not seeing that gnarly gut that he was swapping around. So maybe not so bad. If I was getting the full, like, hairy maw there, I'd probably pass. have more trouble with it. Right. Yeah. Fortunately, the, uh, the, the giant deodorant stick is blocking the, uh, the hairy chasm of Pete Townsend's armpit. Yeah. But this other guy, he's probably got a bean or two made it's way up as, his, is holy. I'm sure. I'm sure you're getting
Starting point is 00:41:52 baked Boston, uh, not Boston, but just baked beans out of, uh, every possible orifice. Yeah. I do like Boston baked beans. Before I got off the show, that was one of my favorite little treats. Oh, I loved Boston baked beans. A whole handful of those right now. Sounds great. I can see beans for miles and miles. I can see beans for miles.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I've been shitting them for weeks because I was in front. Here's one from Brazil, a breaking story from Brazil. This is important stuff. Brazil is building a brand new statue of Jesus. You know, they got the big one there, the big Christ the Redeemer thing. What is that outside of Rio de Janeiro with Christ ascending? No, what is that called? The Redeemer.
Starting point is 00:42:34 The Redeemer. Yeah, and it's... He's got these coupons. Yeah. And he's got to redeem them. Yeah. If he doesn't act now, the deal's going on the way. Somebody needs to, like, do coupons in his hands.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I see a cartoon coming. He knows a good deal when he sees it, is what we're saying. Anyway, they're going to make a new one, and it's bigger than that one. That's crazy to think, because that one's already huge. So a huge statue is under construction. This is another one of Jesus. Jesus in the... southern in southern Brazil will be even taller
Starting point is 00:43:07 than its famous counterpart in Rio de Janeiro the Christ the protector statue is being built in Encanato a small town of Brazil's southernmost state Rio Grande de Seoul by a local organization named
Starting point is 00:43:24 Friends of Christ Association or the A. Christo They come fix my car when I get stuck on the freeway The double A crystal made of steel and concrete that stands 43 meters, 141 feet tall. That is tall. 16 feet taller than the one, the Redeemer one. The organization said the statue will be the third largest statue of Jesus in the world after a 294-foot statue currently under construction in Mexico and a 172-foot monument in Poland. I didn't know that existed. Didn't either. That's crazy. We only think of the Rio.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Who's got the biggest Jesus? Yeah, who's going to have the biggest Jesus and why? Hold on, Poland. I want to see this. Poland, Jesus. The Polish one doesn't have a cool name like Oh it's huge though Oh my gosh Is it really? Here I'll put you a link here I'll put you a linkie poo in the I'll put in the chat and you click it there That's just crazy
Starting point is 00:44:22 Here chat well I'll show you for those who are too lazy I mean that's just It depends on the angle Christ almighty Yeah it's big dude I didn't know that was down there he's got a big old gold crown and he does yeah stuff going on there that's cool well all right they've got the biggest jesus yep oh there's one where they're working on it they're putting the head on so you can see the size compared to those tiny people oh my god i won't be happy
Starting point is 00:44:52 until they animate the arms yeah no kidding look i i'm gonna just say i'm gonna say a controversial thing oh no i think this would this would horrify the actual Jesus. I think he would see this and go, really? Like the way, I'm just saying, as best we can't I gave you the shroud. Was that not enough? From the historical record that we have, he was not big on big, fancy displays of anything. Like, he would look at Catholicism alone and go, what are you doing? Like, what's with the hats and the gold everything? Come on. Like, it just feels like it's just out of the... Play enough already. Enough. Yeah, it's really stupid to me, but whatever. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I do like a lure for real suggestion. Christ the Transformer. That's the statue we need. What does he turn into, though? That's important. What's his motor? He turns into a... It has to be a car or a jet or something.
Starting point is 00:45:52 It'll be a Subaru. A Subaru. A really sensible car. That's great. That's good. Although those are too much money now. but but it has to be super forrester really it's going to be a nice
Starting point is 00:46:10 a reasonable 2006 Subaru Forrester in green right right well people in the oh Pope Mobile's not bad um but but it's got to be some vehicle it can't be somebody said church it can't be a church it has to be a moving vehicle like a plane or a train or a car or
Starting point is 00:46:29 yeah this I like this idea a whole lot better than what they do now because what they do now is just embarrassing it's Come on, you guys. How much money you're spending on these statues? Who's it for? Who's it for? What are you doing? What's this for?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Go seriously? J.K. Grammer found somebody already made a Christ the Transformer. Shut up. Yeah. But it looks like he just turns into like Battle Christ, basically. Okay. Well, that's not as cool. I want to try.
Starting point is 00:46:59 No, but I want to 3D print this. Where can I 3D print this? Oh, I'm looking at it here. Look at that. Yeah. it's really really cool okay I'm in sign me up laura man gets points though for saying that he turns into a Chrysler oh Christler's really good that's awesome that's really good it's too good
Starting point is 00:47:22 you have to leave the chat room and ascend to a higher plane that was too good that's right if we had a throne in the chat room you'd be sitting on it right now for sure okay that's it for your news We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy will be here. We've missed her. I haven't had her for a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:47:41 We have. I've forgotten what she sounds like. I hope I can remember what she sounds like. Well, she's got some advice for a listener who's got some questions. And that's all coming up next. Right after this song selection from the vast library of Brian Ibitt. Yeah, so indie in the middle time. And this one, if you're a fan of, like I am, of talking songs,
Starting point is 00:48:04 You're thinking, we're not talking songs. What are you talking about? But, like, One Night in Bangkok is a good example of that. Maryhead. Exactly. Flash of the Pan. Hey, St. Peter, another good kind of talking song. This is along those same lines, but this one's about a specific place.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Specific, as a matter of fact, in the title, it's called 91st Street. Peter Kleinhans sings about the graffiti, the city around 91st Street. And I kind of really dig this. I don't know what it is about it, but I really, really like this. From his album, I Was Alive Enough from last year, here's Peter Klein-Hans and 91st Street. Down below the street, there's a lost, lost world, that's more than a legend.
Starting point is 00:49:04 They came from Grand Concourse, came from Pelham Bay Park, a ghost rarely seen, a phantom of art. Well, they closed down the station mag in 1959, and they whitewash the cars, straight-painted trains no longer ran the line. But though the riders lost the trains, they won the world. And now the platform is a canvas for graffiti from above. No need to shove, just paint with love on 91st Street. on 91st Street
Starting point is 00:49:35 Elven is pleasant Oh graffiti writers gather At what they call The writer's bench In between the stations Take a look The next time you ride the one train
Starting point is 00:49:47 Oh That's 91st Street On 91st Street Oh It is a... Trapped as days Dainty Min one in Malta You don't have to try hard
Starting point is 00:50:07 To put your ear to the wall To hear the music that they're making And the space that they are taking Underground, that's how it is Just some kids is the whiz If you want to play the game You gotta pinch your own pain Because only rich kids pay
Starting point is 00:50:23 And this world's not for saints And the value of your work Won't be found on an auction block It's what they say about the style Love your peas, move your feet, lose the heat On 91st Street On 91st Street On 91st Street
Starting point is 00:50:40 In between the stations take a look The next time you ride the one train Oh That's 91st Street On 91st Street That's 91st Street On 91st Street of a medium to a surface.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Struggle build soul Struggle build soul Struggle build soul Struggle build soul Struggle build soul Tockey 183 Yo, man, this place is false. You vandalism.
Starting point is 00:52:12 It is written only Link can defeat Gannon. Great, I'll grab my stuff. Yesterday is history today. Today is tomorrow's history. You bleed just fine. Oh, I don't know. I love that so much. He didn't even say this is the morning stream.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's just... You bleed just fine. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, just... Wow, all right. Right out of that. I don't know. I got that in there, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I'll take it. Hey, we're back, everybody. Thanks for hanging in there. Oh, the song again, Brian. was. Oh, song again was Peter Klein Hans. The song is called 91st Street from his up, sorry, from his already released album. I was alive. Enough. Oh, well, all right then. Aren't we all? Enough. Enough. Enough, everybody. After two long weeks, you might call it a drought. We finally have the triumphant. Windy drought. Yes, very windy drought. A windy drought. It's very windy today, but that's not what I'm talking about. We're talking about windy. The drought of Wendy, Windy Dunford. My sister. who's on the line with us now. Hi, Wendy.
Starting point is 00:53:33 How are you? It's been a while. Hey, I said, I'd see Mom on Sunday, last Sunday. And I don't know if you saw that picture of Mom. I did. She looks fantastic. She looks amazing. I want brain surgery.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah. You know what? I mean, she'll never hear this. And I'll tell her this anyway when I see her. We're going to go up there this weekend. But she is so turned around. Like in so many different ways. she lost a bunch of weight in a good way
Starting point is 00:54:03 not like a you know surgery destroys your body kind of way but in a you know excess sort of weight kind of way her scars are all healing up really well she looks amazing she doesn't look 82 and she's moving
Starting point is 00:54:17 better than John is like she's getting up you know she used to have that thing she had to rock like five times to stand up and all that not anymore she just gets up and she was moving all over the place walking all over the place laughing smiling gone are her weird like I swear to you the last last 12 years, which is about what they say the tumor's life has been, a lot of, like,
Starting point is 00:54:37 her, I don't know, insecurities or her whatever's, I think it was this damn tumor. I am completely agreeance. Like, I joke about this, but I'm serious. Like, they took out her passive aggressive gene or something. Like, it's gone. It's gone. It's not there anymore. And that was the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Everyone's got one, right? Maybe all of us have a little tumor we don't know about or something. but it's like a lobotomy in some way. That's weird. Yeah, and it's just a crazy transformation, and I didn't expect it. And she's so, like, sweet and kind to everybody and wants to ask grandkids about what they're doing. And she used to kind of avoid all that and sort of hide over with John in the corner. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's just a weird thing. So, anyway, that was pretty rad. And, uh... So everyone, if you have a passive aggressive mother, get her a brain tumor. Yeah, because you can do that electively. You can just give them a brain tumor. Yeah, just get one and get it taken out. And I mean, it's kind of fascinating brain science-wise, though.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I mean, it's pressing on the prefrontal cortex, right, on those front temporal lobes. And that is, as you maybe people might know, if they've ever known anyone whose personality changed after a car accident or damage to that part of the brain. It really is where our personalities kind of lie in some ways, right? And so it's fascinating to have pressure growing on that. and then it's released. It's like, yeah, I don't know, but I highly recommend it. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And she's got just so much more physicality and she's just got more energy and like, I don't know. It's crazy. It's like a new lease. Whereas she just started to seem old. She seemed her age. Yeah. And then this was. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:56:18 She's seen her age. She now seems 20 years younger. It's just weird. But anyway, very happy that's happening. And it's good to have you back. Now, we, we've been holding on to this email like a fine wine. only gets better with age we were supposed to do it last week but uh that was my fault because i what was going on thursday something happened i don't know but i have like three oh brian had network
Starting point is 00:56:41 problems that's what it was yeah but i've got like three uh emails just burning a hole in my pocket so oh get it started damage yeah don't we don't no no we don't no we don't no new pants is my that's how i get elected that's my platform all right wow here's the uh email we got where there's no names in this. We'll just read it as is. Um, I've always loved your segment and I've never missed it. This was sent to you originally. Okay, now that's out of the way. Jibus, where to begin? Uh, he says, I recently turned 47 and I've been out of work since last May. That's almost a year. Um, lost my job due to COVID and a little bit because of my attitude. I haven't been able to find a new job for a few reasons. I have back issues, degenerative disc disease, along with some poorly
Starting point is 00:57:26 mended vertebrae breaks from 15 years ago. These issues cause pain and spasms every day, and I take enough pain meds and muscle relaxers to drop a small horse. Just a small one, though, maybe a pony, he says. I really like the tone of this. Anyway, I can't do the work I have done in the past like assembly, forklift driving, construction, not that I'd want to do those things, which is another reason I haven't found a job. I don't feel qualified to do anything or do other than stuff that'll ruin my body. I've wasted this past 10 months, and I should have been. been studying something to find a job. But I've just been thinking that I'm almost 50 and I just
Starting point is 00:58:05 can't stand the thought of starting all over again. I have anxiety issues that take two meds to curtail. I also have high blood pressure and high cholesterol so you can imagine the literal handful of medication I have to take every morning. I have a liberal arts associates degree and certifications in A plus and N plus, but those don't get me anywhere because I have no experience in the IT field. I volunteered to my daughter's middle school at the beginning of this year to help set up Chromebooks and hotspots for their students. Let's see. I was hoping that they, sorry, I was hoping that that would help with one of the two openings that the district had in their IT departments, but even with the glowing compliments from every IT person, teacher,
Starting point is 00:58:46 faculty member, etc. that I dealt with. And even both the vice principal and principal of the school, I didn't even get an interview. I find myself getting more and more depressed, which then makes it harder to even want to go look for a job. I actually had one job I actually liked and gave it up for a large payout and have been kicking myself ever since. For 12 years, I never had a dollar in my pocket and I'm sick of living week to week paycheck to paycheck. The only thing I do have is the love of a great woman, my wife, and for the most part, it is the only good thing in my life. Not sure if this is a question or venting session, but whatever it is, I thank you for listening. And that's it. So, this sounds.
Starting point is 00:59:25 like a combination of a certain part of your life physical stuff and a worldwide pandemic smacking all together at the same time in the middle of a life's intersection and it sounds like a bummer to me
Starting point is 00:59:39 so what do you want to do with this this person how do you want to so I just want to read the very last thing that he wrote he said no I'm not suicidal but I'm still youngish okay a like he's he's holding on to that
Starting point is 00:59:55 as an option if he's got that in his belt if he needs it yeah which is not uncommon actually um okay so let's start with this well and i think first of all you've everyone's got to acknowledge the pandemic yeah let's just take that for a minute so this happened the other day i don't know if you've been following um the news in minnesota a little bit rough yeah yeah i uh yeah it's rough And so we had a curfew on Monday night at 7 p.m. And I had the most, and this is not to trivialize what PTSD is because it is totally different from this and beyond this. But there is a reaction your body does that's like mini PTSD when things occur sometimes. And I had such a strange mini PTSD reaction to that, to being told I can't leave my house.
Starting point is 01:00:54 house at seven after seven. And this was it. I was like, I need pajamas. I need so much candy. And I need TV. And I need to make sure we have toilet paper and food. Like it was as if the whole thing came back. Right. The whole all like, and I've been used to it. It's not like all, nothing is, life is just totally normal again. It's not. But it is now a year into being used to some of this, right and um but the the lockdown and like hearing helicopters and like that happened in you know when frank um george floyd was murdered and you know so it's it's like a rough a flashback to that moment and yeah it's about it's about there right may may something was the day he was killed
Starting point is 01:01:43 and things kicked off yeah so yeah and and then just this sort of flashback of the whole thing and and i thought well that tells you everything clearly i handle it was candy and pajamas and hoarding, I don't know, chicken nuggets or something. Like, it was so reflexive. It was strange. And it was interesting because I could see it all. But that is like, you know, that could be triggered a hair second for someone who has spent a lot of time talking about this.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Like, this is every conversation with every client and tons of people I communicate with about what this has been like for us. So I've been thinking about it a lot, but it doesn't matter when your body goes, oh, yeah, remember how terrible that feeling is? Here it is again. You know, just let me remind you. Now, again, I am not minimizing everyone else's pain. This is just my dumb little corner of the world.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And realizing, like, the underappreciated impact, the pandemic has had on people. Because I think there's obvious cases, right, where we can say, oh, well, that person lost a loved one. So of course their life is forever changed. But even for many of us who haven't lost a loved one or, you know, you could kind of do your thing or you just liked working for home. It wasn't too bad. There are still impacts that maybe you haven't recognized. And that is going on here with this e-mailer. And I don't know, I guess I find it helpful to always chunk that. Like pandemic effect, here it is, and identify it and recognize it has made everything harder. well it's been a catalyst for things right if there's a crack in your relationship it's going to make
Starting point is 01:03:24 that crack grow bigger and faster right if there's trouble in um your work environment it's gonna create like you know all these companies meeting on zoom every day and not having body language anymore if there was already trouble that trouble has quadrupled right so you can see that that this is this underlying current that needs to be acknowledged as part of his story so that said you know, maybe he hasn't thought through that with somebody else because we tend to just experience what we experience and sit with it ourselves. And then our brain makes up whatever idea wants to make up about it. So there's one chunk. Then we've got this and how it's impacting, of course, the job market or the way he thinks about his prospects. Plus,
Starting point is 01:04:13 we've got the history with his work life. So here we are hitting a little bit of the middle of life, and he's already got some health problems that at 50 is not a good sign for the rest of his life, right? So we got a health chunk. We've got a job chunk. Sounds like the best things he's got going for him is his family, which is awesome, which is a great place to start, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So we can talk about what to do from here, but I just want to quick ask the two of you. have you wasted the last 10 months? No. Just this idea. No, I think you know like a pro. Right, because that's what's kind of tricky, right? Everyone feels like they just missed this window, but maybe don't realize that all of us had low-key depression that entire time as well, right?
Starting point is 01:05:07 So someone posting that they've learned a new language while in quarantine or, you know, started their business, you're going to need to ignore them. I, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I do feel like, like the last, we say 10 months, come on, I mean, it's been, it's been a year plus, really since, yeah, and it's really been probably more than I really am realizing, right? As far as how it's affecting my mood, how it's affecting my life, I think I've probably been crankier lately, saltier probably, but, and it's probably just like, oh, I had all this time. that was forced to stay home and not do anything and not travel. Why didn't I take advantage of picking up a new skill? Yeah, that wasn't miniature painting or something you're already into, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. Or the New York Times crossword. Well, I mean, you're no short. Brian is never short on cool hobbies and stuff. But I know what you're saying. There's still this feeling of like, I don't know, I feel like I got all the minimums done. but there's still a part of me that when the minimums weren't getting, when that was getting done, it was getting done and then I was done.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And then I was having to face this stuff down and facing it down often meant park myself on the couch with the dog and ignore the world. And that doesn't necessarily feel like time wasted. It just feels like unfortunate time spent. Right, because it's a different kind of, it's a different kind of reward for that, right? It's, you know, being on the couch probably helps your psyche more than, oh, I'm going to really quickly take a class on after effects or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 But you're doing better for your psyche by going hanging out on the couch with the dog. And I have massive respect. And you're pointing out something really quick that's neurologically helpful to understand is that we don't learn new things when we're in a trauma state. Yeah. So this is all the luxury of hindsight as if time. happened and nothing was going on. Right. It was going on.
Starting point is 01:07:19 There were literally days where I could not believe America was America, right? And there were days where, you know, if you really listened to what people were going through, like really heard the pain. Like, it's collective trauma throughout the globe. Like that, you can't learn a new skill during that. That was very clear to me in real. life when we moved to Sweden and I was taking Swedish classes and I'm there
Starting point is 01:07:50 with all these refugees who had just recently been able to get into the country and have been through horrific things and teachers are trying to teach them and I had conversations with them about they're just staring at me. They're not absorbing it and I'm like because a traumatized brain
Starting point is 01:08:06 doesn't learn and there's a reason it doesn't learn and this is what's so I won't get on my soapbox about kids being in dangerous and neglected and insecure situations because they can't learn. And now you have a lifetime of that disadvantage, right? So, but this idea of like, we're so hard on ourselves if we aren't doing something, doing or accomplishing or how we measure ourselves. And that's what I really want us to get to with this guy is if you notice what he's saying,
Starting point is 01:08:36 he's 47 years old, I rechecked his age. He says he's almost 50, but come on, dude, stick with 47 for a little while. Enjoy it. Hang on to that, right. Dig your fingernails at the edge of that cliff for as long as you can. That's right. And just having the like storyline that how he understands his life. I mean, our brain will pick the story that makes sense to us and also protects us.
Starting point is 01:09:04 So he is listing all the ways he's not okay and doesn't know what to do. And he, and it sounds like, and this is true for all of us. something outside of him is supposed to tell him he's okay, right? Like, if we compared him to another 47-year-old who's got all the things he doesn't have but has a terrible marriage and his kids hate his guts, I'm going to guarantee he'll pick his life over that person's, right? So it's the story and the negative negativity bias that tends to sort of surface here. And so that, and my example with the pandemic is the same thing.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Our brain goes, well, what have you been doing? rather than like Brian, you were saying, like sitting on the couch was therapeutic. So a little mini re-trauma for me in my dumb, easy life is that I need candy in my pajamas and I'm going to watch, you know, TV all night. Like that is a protective response that we have a tendency to maybe not quite listen to ourselves or what we need. And physical health is a big one here. So it sounds like at 47 years old, he is not well physically.
Starting point is 01:10:10 right yeah yeah got stuff going on and that story and maybe it's been this way for a while maybe you know got to this point you don't sort of have all of these issues i mean obviously he's he has this degenerative disc disease in his back there's nothing he could have done about that and that probably has snowballed into lots of different other things but is there a different story about his health he can he can learn to listen to or write which is kind of the theme i'm getting at here right which is the story you tell yourself So let's make you guys give us an example. What is a story that you tell yourself that feels really true, but someone in your life is always like maybe bumping up against it or like, nah, come on.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Or it just doesn't quite fit, but man, your brain loves that story. Oh, my gosh. Wow. They're like so many. There's so many. I can give you, like a theme might be victimhood, right? The story that you're the victim of something. that that's one we can all understand um and when we're in it man is that it feel good that's
Starting point is 01:11:16 tasty you know there was me leaving um uh what was a full-time job that i then said i'm going to do part-time uh for uh to do to focus on podcasting back in 2009 i believe it was um and then the company did have to let me go just because of money coming in. They're like, well, Brian's only part time. We can get rid of him and three trainers or whatever. But I really play up the victim as like, I was probably ready to go out of that thing anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:52 But I never bring that part up. It's like, oh, I can't believe I got fired for that job. It sucks. But I mean, that's, is that kind of? Totally. Totally. And let me give you the kind of core reason for that is we all have our ego. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's much better to say that it was their fault than it was me, yes. And one way to think about this, and I'm going to give everyone a different word here, which is that we process information in a different part of our brain when our ego is in charge. So it's a type of processing and not simply like, oh, I got a big ego or my ego is in the way, But we actually, like in a brain scan, we can see essentially where the ego lives and how it processes. And what's fascinating about it is it's very medial to the brain. Like you can see the lighting up is all sort of in the front and down the middle. And then when someone's in a creative or flow state or something like that, the brain lights up on the sides of the brain or the activity lights up over there, which is so interesting, right?
Starting point is 01:13:05 So this, it's self-referential processing essentially what it's. it is. It's like, how does this impact me? Me, me, me, me, me. And people have experienced this where you are stuck in self-referential. Everything is about you. And you don't think that's what's happening. But you can tell because you're offended easily, everyone's crap is about you. And it's really hard for you to see it in any other kind of perspective, right? So when our ego gets pinched a little, it's because we're processing in a way that how is that connected to me? but what's fascinating right brian your story just flip it like what a gift right it was the gift and i do flip it when when it suits me right like yeah yeah that's the trick that's the trick
Starting point is 01:13:50 i use that story for my bravest moment like you know i decided just take the leap and jump into podcasting and leave this job i've been at for 12 years or whatever um by the way that company folded a long time yeah they're not there shortly after i left yeah part of the story man yeah part of the story. There we go. I'll use that story, but I'm never using that in the victim version of the story. Sure. I mean, this is funny. So I was thinking, trying to think of this as well. And there are too many stories like this. But to be sort of consistent with what we're talking about today and the timeline we're talking about, there's a couple. I'm going to use names, obviously. There's a couple I know who, when the pandemic happened and during their early months of it and all of this, they were stoically. like we're not letting this bother us or stop us we're doing whatever we can we're going to be great and they started all this workout stuff and they were going to be better shaped than anybody and their diets were better than anybody and they were going to do all this and they started taking
Starting point is 01:14:50 trips to hawai and doing all these things vaccinated or not it was just like let's go we're our life we're holding life by the tail no one can tell us what to do and on the outside it was like man we're all trying over here and you're not at all and it's and part of me He's mad at you for that. Part of me is also jealous for going to Hawaii this week. And, you know, these mixed feelings of, like, watching this happen until, I hope they're not listening or until about two, three weeks ago, find out that they are bitterly separated and getting a divorce.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And nobody knew this was going on. Like, this was all, you know, it was hidden neatly under the veneer of the social media and the whatever exterior. That's so green on that side of the fence. Yeah. And I will admit, not proudly, but will admit, I took some comfort in that. I went, well, that's what you get for not being as careful as we've been. You guys really screwed over.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You know, I like kind of, it's kind of a weird parallel to the Doth protest too much thing that. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Like when people go. Showing off how happy they are and how perfect their life is and under the, under the veneer of wisteria lane. there's love and farts. It's almost always true. Every last listener here, if you are writing on Facebook how much you love your partner,
Starting point is 01:16:15 there are thousands of therapists that see right through that. So just don't. Well, shit, you know, put that on her feed like not long ago. Yeah, I don't do Facebook. So that doesn't matter to me. But like it's so obvious, holy cow, we all see it. So just say it privately and make it real. That should be the thing.
Starting point is 01:16:34 No, yeah, Scott, you're pointing out something important, which is we are human, so as humans, we are social creatures. We need to know that we are approved of or loved or accepted or belong, and it's important, right? And also, like, what am I doing is right or wrong? And so I'm looking at this guy and I'm listening to all the things he lists as his problems. Like, for example, he does this awesome work for his daughter's school and everybody loves him. and he doesn't even get an interview. We have no idea why.
Starting point is 01:17:09 He probably doesn't have any idea why. And the story, though, because we got to understand why we're in pain. We got to, that's what we do. We make up stories. We need to understand things, but we're pretty terrible at the actual truth. Now, if we could get someone to say, you know what, we didn't even give you an interview because everyone was lying to your face. We actually think you were terrible.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Well, okay. well, that would explain things, but man, that'd be painful. Or maybe it's that this guy was already in line for this next bit and he just, it was a logical fit, sorry. You know, there's some explanation that no matter kind of what you do here from the outside, if we are always self-referential processing, then we are only going to see it as how it hurts us, how it serves us, et cetera. Now, there's a gamut here, right? There are people on the extreme where they don't do enough self-referential processing probably to be healthy. And then others who can almost get just stuck.
Starting point is 01:18:11 And a place that's very common to be stuck in that type of processing is depression, addiction, all of those types of things where it's kind of like the rest of the world doesn't really exist unless it's completely related to how you are feeling that minute and what you are doing. Right. So if you're in one of those positions. And I don't think this guy is. I just think he's in the sucks to be me self-referential processing moment right now. And the key here is to get out of it.
Starting point is 01:18:41 And so a couple things. So you're in the middle of your life. You have not had a dollar in your pocket. You've been paycheck to paycheck. So why? And what can we do about that, right? The job loss, the great relationship. Like there's all sorts of things going on here in this.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's very thorough. So I appreciate the thoroughness. but finding out what he perpetually does that keeps him in these states. I'm going to guess anxiety, because he did mention that, right? Yeah, he did. That anxiety at it's for it, too, I guess, some meds. Yeah, well, because the anxiety at its core, so if you want to sort of, I don't do a hierarchy of needs here, I would go, of course, I'm a hammer.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I'm a nail with a hammer, right? But I would go for the, I would go for the anxiety first, because, is what anxiety is and does is it it's a form of hijacking stories, right? So it's really hard to find what's the closest to the truth or the one that's going to make you feel better or is it you're just doing it for your ego or whatever. Like you don't know because you've got this thing coming in, stealing the story and changing the story all the time. So to tackle your anxiety would be a really smart beginning spot and to get a sense of that.
Starting point is 01:19:57 And then we move on to sort of the, what are these, other things that you've done for so long that here's this weird chance. You are halfway through your life. You can keep doing it like you've always done it. Or you can do it totally different. And that's what's tricky. Because if the story is this and the story is true, this is your chance to rebuild your life in a totally different way. It's going to look different. You don't have the luxury of, you know, a perfectly formed back and, you know, 20-year-old knees. So you you have to be flexible to some extent. But there is a version of a whole set up next life that you can get to.
Starting point is 01:20:37 That's why we kind of make fun of midlife crises. We're just like, oh, you got a new sports car. Well, people do weird versions of this all the time, and we can now make a joke about it. But what is your, like, where do you want to go? Like some of this is just right before you. It's like you're 20 again, but you're not dumb. And that's the difference. But you got to be careful because that not being.
Starting point is 01:21:00 dumb is uh can be a very strong hindrance to taking some risks because you've you know you're old enough to know some things yeah um and this is hard i mean i'm i'm saying some of this you know just like briefly and quickly but he's got to figure out what's held him back um and see what we can do about that and then figure out where to put some energy to do his life a little differently in the future it's a whole he's not so far off as he thinks no yeah i agree i agree with that I was going to say, too, and this is maybe a whole separate topic, but I feel like it ties in a little bit. I was just reading some numbers on short term and long term economic stuff based on, you know, impact of the pandemic and everything. And spending is up.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Like the retail market is up way higher than anyone thought it would be. The stimulus checks, you know, they can show a direct result there, like all that kind of stuff. And it occurred to me that what happened is everyone. had kind of a mid, not mid-life crisis, but a mid-pandemic crisis, maybe, where they went, well, who knows what the future is? I'm spending it now on the thing I want. So I'm going to get my giant TV, or I'm going to buy that car finally, or I'm going to, you know, I don't know, take that trip to Mexico or whatever it is. People did it and did it in such a way that now the supply chain's all left up because nobody can get chips and nobody can get everything's
Starting point is 01:22:29 all fouled up in the supply chains for different kinds of products around the world. And there's a very consumer's point of view. But I think a lot of people after a year were like, screw it. I'm just going to splurge on this thing because who knows what the next pandemic is or who knows what the next horrible thing is or whatever. It's not, you know, this is all ephemeral anyway. Let's spend it and have some fun. Like that, I think kind of happened.
Starting point is 01:22:51 And everybody didn't squirrel it away and put it in the bank and hold on to it and earn interest on it. They didn't, nobody did that. They just said, all right. I'm buying that four-wheeler because who knows if all to ever get to do that again, you know, kind of feeling. And I don't know if that has anything to do with this, but it feels midlifey on a grander scale, you know? Well, I tell you his financial woes won't be fixed with what you just described.
Starting point is 01:23:18 No, not at all. Not at all. Don't do that at all. Yeah, don't do that at all. Spend like there's no tomorrow. And my point is nobody should be, I mean, my opinion is, Nobody should be doing that. We should all be careful and more conservative with spending and things like that.
Starting point is 01:23:35 But people didn't. It's just a weird phenomenon. Like I feel like there was this old wisdom that when things got weird, people tightened up. They didn't happen this time. It would if it were longer term and it affected more people. Yeah. This has not been a financial crisis for like always. We're in the same storm but not the same boat.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Right. I wanted to make that point clear. as well. There's plenty of people who that I'm absolutely not talking about, you know, like they're, these are all just numbers and then when you start to apply them to people, you realize, oh, well, once again, we're looking at a certain
Starting point is 01:24:11 you know, here's privilege A through Z and here's unprivileged A through Z and here's all the reasons why these people had less money and were kicked out of their, you know, their rent was killed or whatever. Like all that stuff obviously there's, it's more
Starting point is 01:24:27 nuanced than that, but, but it wasn't unusual thing because normally you can count on like I don't know 9-11 happened and everybody stopped spending money like you got real quiet for a while everybody and then this happened and I just feel like people are like I'm doing it plus there's more outlets for doing it stop spending for sure they did but I think there was a a shift at some point because and again like unlike any other tragedy or challenge I think any of us have ever faced is it's everyone I mean, people's relationships have been rocked through this, right? Like, so even if, even if, like, you didn't lose your job or get sick yourself or something, right?
Starting point is 01:25:11 Like, it's touched everyone. I also think the long, the sort of long slog of it, you know, unlike something else where I can go out and, you know, collect things and donate blood and there's actionable things. Our actions was to sit on our couch and not go somewhere to be helpful, right? Like, it's not like I got all that candy the other night and felt good. I felt awful. Turns out, I've broken my candy habit and it made me sick. And I was like, this isn't working. But, you know, what are our strategies?
Starting point is 01:25:44 And, you know, if this guy maps out his life and answers that question, what are my strategies? What do I use to feel better to, and usually it's going to be a list of escapes, right? That's a very common one. or how do I spend my time? Like if we take a really honest look at ourselves and how we spend our time and where our money is, right? Can say a lot about what we really think as well or where our energy or time goes.
Starting point is 01:26:13 And just like a real honest assessment. And you've got another 40 years to go, 30 years ago. I don't know, life expects since he just went down, right? 30 years ago, what do you want it to feel like or look like? And here's what I really want him to do. I really want him to engage his wife in this discussion. And this may be tricky because she's probably been dealing with his feeling crappy for a while here. And she's maybe carrying the family resources, you know, the family income or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And so it may be a little tricky to be like, hey, hon, let's plan big for the next half of my life, you know. And she's just like, shut up. I have to go to work, you know. he's he's in the chat by the way today and he's been he's been mentioning here here and there about how you know just awesome she's been they don't fight yeah she's rock yeah she sounds like she's fantastic so i want i want you to connect with her in this way where there's this conversation about what would you like um what do we want the next half of our life to be like together right so i've maybe mentioned this on the show before but i stole this idea
Starting point is 01:27:22 from Esther Perel who's that she's like a famous she invented Perel the hand sanitizer totally she's made a bundle on this pandemic no I'm just kidding so she she has this idea and I really like it and I think it's been really helpful for my clients to think about your marriage in three acts well there are three marriages sometimes you have
Starting point is 01:27:45 that marriage with the same person but there are three and the first one is that very young new one where you're that's the dumb stage, right? And you're learning and, you know, maybe have a couple kids or you're trying to build a life. And sometimes that does not work out. It's a very common first marriage to end kind of thing. And then the second marriage is sort of the nightmare teenage land. I'm in the second marriage, by the way. And then the sort of, and that's if you have children, if you don't, it's similar in that like this is, the midlife starts to creep into this one. This is the time you're
Starting point is 01:28:20 supposed to be making your money and squirreling it away, right? Like there's all. the pressures and the adulting that's so flipping hard happens in this second marriage and then sometimes people don't make this one either and then the third marriage is you know this guy and his wife are entering the edge of which is you know this third round of and often that includes retirement or these older years and like right and so if you think about hey pretty lucky to have someone through all three marriages but regardless each block needs to almost be treated like a second or a separate marriage because you've got to recreate again what you want in this life so we're if those two met today what would they want to do and build into their life right
Starting point is 01:29:06 oh that's a really interesting way to look at it yeah because you get used to each other's flaws and you're they're just built in and they just kind of happen and but those things will pull people apart slowly over time so we have a couple high divorce rates we've got the um seven-year Itch is legitimately a thing. And that's that first marriage kind of ending. Is that what that stands for? I've never seen the movie that's called that. I never knew what it meant.
Starting point is 01:29:30 That's what that is. You're 70 years in. You're like, oh, man. Yeah, and I've heard that that's even like a misnomer that it's really like the three-year inch or something. Yeah. And it depends because time has sped up a lot with some of these things. So it's, and I would say it's actually a nine-year itch is more common.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Seven to nine is the, and it really depends on when you either bring a kid in. or you start making some like, you know, you get a mortgage or something, stuff that starts to add strain. So it can be as early as three years and about nine. Anyway, and then the second highest divorce rate tends to be when the kids leave home. So that's that second marriage, sort of like we didn't really take care of each other during this. And now the kids are gone and we've got nothing.
Starting point is 01:30:13 That's pretty common. And we do it for the kids, you know? Yeah. And then that third marriage, it can, like, retirement is like, third highest when people are like, I don't even like you by. So, you know, it's like deciding you want to make your third marriage, what you want to make it. So sit down with her and like get really honest. These are going to be some hard conversations.
Starting point is 01:30:38 And I don't really even like you by. I can't get that out of my head. That is a funny way to just, I can't imagine. Like, I'm sure this has happened to somebody, but the end of your long, you know, arduous child-rearing years. And you got to the end and you're like, don't even like you. Bye. I just can't, I can't picture it. All right, sorry. I didn't mean to. They just have separate floors on a house. Like that's usually. Right. Right. Separate bedrooms. Yeah. Separate bedrooms. Um, okay. So, so, so yeah, sit down with her like, start having some really hard
Starting point is 01:31:07 conversations. What does this look like? Like, instead of still holding on to what you're supposed to be doing, because that is a big part of this storyline that I'm reading is that here's all the supposed tos. And I get it. You'll talk to your neighbor. or your friend, they have the same supposed to list. There's, it's hard to find someone who's going to go, oh, hold on. This is where you should be having your llama farm and you'll be like, what? I mean, you don't meet that guy. That guy's not going to come around and talk to you.
Starting point is 01:31:35 It's going to be the one that says, look like my life, do what I do, right? And this is what's cool about this age and this guy needs to really embrace this, is to stop caring what other people think and figure out what you really want. And then the stuff that's in your way of getting that, deal with it. So I would assume that's anxiety. I would assume that's this financial stress. And I'm not, this isn't flippant or short, right? But it's the hard work of deciding what your second half of your life is going to be like versus the easy way is consumerism, actually, going back to your point.
Starting point is 01:32:15 The easy way, because think about it, you get an Amazon package. You don't remember what you bought, but you get a little high, right? Yeah, you get a little buzz. That's great. Yeah, for sure. So it makes sense. It's just shortcut brain treatment as opposed to long-term, like, surgery, which requires a lot more deep, a deeper look and to figure out what some of these things are.
Starting point is 01:32:37 We are comfortable, even in our dysfunction, even when we don't like the things, we're comfortable. And so that's really tricky to start to dig into that and figure out what those are. So hopefully that's helpful. I mean, I think it's exciting. And I know that people are like, that's weird. Like, it sounds like it's rough. I'm like, it is rough. But the rougher it is, the bigger the motivation or the jump could be and it can be awesome.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah. But you've got to do the work or you won't. You're not going to get there. And that's what's tricky is. We want that to happen to us, not for us to do all our dig deeping and figuring out what we really want. We just want to feel normal like the neighbor and go to Hawaii. Yeah. But then when you strip it all,
Starting point is 01:33:20 down, do you? Laven farts. Yeah, you don't necessarily. Now they're in the thick of a really nasty divorce and I don't want to do that and I'm trying not to take, I'm not I'm trying not to get
Starting point is 01:33:33 satisfaction out of it. You know what I'm saying? You're trying to be generous. I'm trying to be nice. I don't want to I don't want to, I don't want anyone to go through that but part of me is like, well, that's what you get. Yeah, jerks, which is a whole another aspect of the
Starting point is 01:33:48 pandemic that I don't like, which is you know if somebody goes away we don't like now it's it's easy to just sort of condemn them and shove them on their way and trying to do less of that so anyway a few people deserve it but they're usually in public you're not going to let everyone get away with no not everyone um all right well this is i think been great and a fine return to forum here for the segment since we've missed it for two weeks but don't worry everybody we'll be back next time with more and we definitely have more emails so uh we'll we'll keep uh pushing these coming. We like to be picky sometimes, and it's hard to be picky when there's only one.
Starting point is 01:34:24 That's right. Sometimes you guys get embarrassed or nervous, so you don't want to talk about it. You don't have to use your name. You can be totally anonymous like today. And, you know, we'll treat it like we, you know, like we would any anonymous person and not out you. We will not docks you, is what I'm saying. All right. Wendy, have a fantastic week. Our best to the all the children. Oh, real steps at our work. Anything going on. We should mention. real quick. Yes, except it's not quite ready, but it will be. Yeah, we're going to start taking registrations this coming, hopefully, weekend.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I will send an email out to people, and I will not abuse your email. But, yeah, we start May 1st. It's going to be great. This is so cute. I hadn't realized this, but we have a Discord channel for everyone who's done it before, and I have been lazy and haven't looked at it. and they've been holding their own Monday night meetings. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Yeah. It's really cute because they miss each other and just checking in and keeping each other happy. So it's a really great group. So if anybody is interested, go read about it. Real Steps.org. You got to go in there once in a while. You got to go in there once in a while. Make sure they haven't chosen a leader or decided who's going to kill Piggy.
Starting point is 01:35:43 You got to watch. Keep a keep your eye on that. You never know. Wendy, we'll talk to you next week. Have a fantastic week. and we'll see you then. Thanks. Bye.
Starting point is 01:35:51 May your state not be in lockdown over riots anymore. Really mainly can your police people quit shooting people? Yeah, just being right, exactly. Maybe just less of that would probably help a little bit, I think. No kidding. All right. That's it for the show. There was something I was going to tell everyone about that I forgot.
Starting point is 01:36:14 What was it? Shoot. That's why you write this shit down. I didn't write it down, so I don't know it now. Crap. All right. Well, whatever it was, I'm sure it was great. Oh, tonight there is a core episode.
Starting point is 01:36:27 That's not the thing. But tonight, if you want to watch us talk video games in a very broad way, then check out core. That's what me and Bo and John do. And there's a lot to talk about. So check that out this evening at 5 p.m. Mountain Time live here on Twitch, or you can catch the podcast after. Yeah, Rock Runner's still going, still going strong.
Starting point is 01:36:48 a new, oh, I know what it was. There's a new Fred and Can coming up today that is specifically about, well, it gives a little hard time to Zach Snyder and his big cut, okay? That's all I'm saying there. So check that out. Coming up right after the show,
Starting point is 01:37:02 I'll be putting that together. I'll send it out in the newsletter with some other stuff. And you'll have access to that. If you're not already on the newsletter I'd like to get it sent directly to you, then you can do that as well. Go to frogpans.com club and sign up today.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Brian, anything else you got going on over there before we leave today? just doing coverville later and playing some Marvel Avengers while music's playing for Coverville between you know during the sets nice because it's the only time I get to play that game how's that going is that uh it had a huge drop off I'm enjoying it you know I'm uh I don't have any issues with the fact that the the characters don't look like the MCU versions just because it's you know I've been seeing versions of Marvel heroes for my entire life so yeah if you're a reader of the comics none of this is a big deal it's like really
Starting point is 01:37:53 doesn't matter and um if you're if you've been thinking about buying it damn now's the time it's like 25 bucks uh online so and there's a good there's like a 90% chance that if you play online you'll end up with brian because not enough people are playing it right now so i'm not doing any of multiplayer crap i'm not a multiplayer in this kind of campaign stuff gotcha i'm gonna get through the campaign i'm gonna unlock some characters and i'm gonna be done there you go that's what they say until they get you to get you until they get you um all right a reminder that uh what else oh for patreon.com slash tms is how you can support this show you can do it for as little as a dollar a month we are at the halfway point of the month still time to get in and get daily content that is
Starting point is 01:38:36 only available to you if you sign up as well as other cool stuff uh there will be a play date later this month for example and all that so watch for more as we move forward in time TMS for everything else, and now a song to go out on with Brian. All right. I can do that. Brian wrote in. Not me, but another Brian. I've said it's that time of
Starting point is 01:39:00 here again, Brian, where I ask you and the rest of the TMS to join me in celebrating the anniversary of leaving behind the corporate shackles and joining the ranks of public employment. And while I have now worked from home for longer than I have in the office, it still seems right to mark the day by requesting
Starting point is 01:39:16 a cover of another Iron Maiden song. If you can't find an appropriate cover of my song choice, any Iron Maiden song will suffice. Still love the show, though. Hey, Scott, how about a booby? Oh, oh, it's been a while. Hold on. It has been a while. Booby. Uh, well. Takes on a new context now that she's a new mom. Right, because that's what the baby says every day. How about a, how about a booby? Oh, I guess, yeah, the baby could say it to her too. All right, here we go. Found it. How about a booby? There you go. Well done, Veronica. Mother of one. Which used to do video game reviews on this show. Amazing. Amazing times.
Starting point is 01:39:52 All right. So how about a cover of Iron Maiden? This is Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name. Covered by Doogie White. Doogie White is lead singer. He was with Richie Blackmore's Rainbow for a while. He actually auditioned to be a touring vocalist for Iron Maiden. So he's got some Iron Maiden connections right there. This is from a collection. called Voices of British Heavy Metal from 2010. Here is Doogie White and hallowed be thy name. See you guys on Monday, except for you lucky few who ours patrons and get TMS PM tomorrow. We'll see you then.
Starting point is 01:40:47 my cold cell when the bell begins to chime reflecting on my past life and it doesn't have much time Because at five o'clock They take me to the gallows'clock This ends of time For me a running road Oh, Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:42:04 When the priest comes to read me the last rite, take a look through the bars of the last sight of a world that has gone very wrong for me. It's going to be that there's some kind of error. Not to stop that's a mounting terror. Is it really the end of some crazy dream? Somebody made tell me that I'm dreaming. So let's see that I'm still from dreaming. The world's escape when I can let us speak
Starting point is 01:42:36 Till they go, why am I crying And for all I'm not afraid of dying So I believe that they never lose any. Let's see. Come down to the cold yards From across from himself Don't be with you And there's a god
Starting point is 01:43:38 Why did he let me do There's a vote for life To pour me Though the end is near I'm not sorry Catch my soul It's really to fly away My power
Starting point is 01:43:49 Believe my soul is Oh, go worry now That I have gone I've gone to see the truth When you know that your time It's close in heaven And you begin to understand Like I'm there is just a strange
Starting point is 01:44:02 illusion Yeah. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I don't know. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh. Oh. I don't know. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I'll be the name, I'll be the name. Hello be the name Hello to be the name Hello to be the name
Starting point is 01:46:53 as I wait in my close and loud Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com.

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