The Morning Stream - TMS 2103: Don't forget to hate and ignore

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

Dunaway's Squishy Balls. I don't like the letter zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm Old, I'm Dumb, Get Used To It. 24 ACROSS: BITCH MOTHER. Take Your Wife... or Somebody You Like. Editing Killed the Video Star.... Stay Dehydrated, A-Hole. Hey it's Mr Die hard! Bill, Why Aren't You Stephen? Ron Chihuahua was my wrestling name in college. Scripted Butt Moment. Ascend to S-League, Turd Monkey! I need some protein. We can't fix it in post, there is no post. Making things with Stephen. Major Spoilers with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wait, are you gaming on a Chromebook? Yeah, it's got a high-res 120-hertz display, plus this killer RGB keyboard, and I can access thousands of games anytime, anywhere. Stop playing. What? Get out of here. Huh?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Yeah, I want you to stop playing and get out of here so I can game on that Chromebook. Got it. Discover the Ultimate Cloud Gaming Machine, a new kind of Chromebook. Coming up on TMS, Dunaway's Squishy Balls. I don't like the letter Z. I'm old, I'm dumb, get used to it.
Starting point is 00:00:39 24 across, bitch mother. Take your wife, or somebody you like. Editing, killed the video star. Stay dehydrated, a-hole. Hey, it's Mr. Diehard. Bill, why aren't you Stephen? Ron Chihuahua was my wrestling name in college. Scripted butt moment.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Send S-League, turd monkey. I need some protein. We can't fix it in post. There is no post. Making things with Stephen. Major spoilers with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Mortal Kombat. Fight.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Finish him. Test your might. Excell. N.T. Cano. Lou Chang. Frayden. J.
Starting point is 00:01:30 O'Ne, O-H-H-N-Y, Cage, Scorpio. My balls are getting kind of squishy. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream. Today is Monday, April 26, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. I'm Brian Iibbitt, and that guy was... Hello. Gilbert Godfrey. Yeah, I thought, I thought for sure that that clip would end with your Todd Cochran. Gilbert Godfrey. I should have. Godfrey. Now that I've got some time to think about what I've done, I probably should have added it. Think about what you've done now.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah. So that's, I should give credit or credits do. There's a YouTube band. who does really cool covers of stuff. And they make just really rock and ripping metal covers of things. And I forgot the name of the band. It's not much of a shout out to them if I don't know their names. But anyway, they paid to have Gilbert Godfrey do a cameo. So that's just cameo audio. Oh, brilliant.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's a good way to do it too. It's just, you know, pay 40 bucks, 60 bucks, and have them do it. Exactly. So then they turn around and do that Mortal Kombat 90s theme that da-na-da-na-da-da-na-da-da-da-n-that song and then they all those test your might and all that stuff they replace it with gilbert godfrey doing it and it's amazing oh that's brilliant it's really why don't we pay him to like read all of the other nominees that we have todd cochran saying like this show is so gay exactly why don't we hire him for all our voiceover needs because he's
Starting point is 00:03:22 i can see why you like it what's great in this house is if i play his voice all that does is make my two daughters go, why do I know that voice? And then I try to, I try to give all these reasons. And I'm like, the Affleck bird. And they're like, how about this? No. Yeah, comedy. No. And then I get to the freaking bird and Aladdin. And they're like, that's it. Right. Iago or whatever's name was. That's all they know who you're from. Yep. Yeah. Anyway. Don't be confused with pumba. No, never confused the two. Hey, you guys. I've been up since 3.30. How's your day? Or 3. I'm sorry. Three. I can. I'm saying 3.30.
Starting point is 00:04:00 3 o'clock this morning. I said 4.30. I don't know what happened, but I woke up just like with the worst migraine, achy, just felt terrible. And for a hot minute, I went, no, I've had the shots. Don't give me the road, huh? You know? But it wasn't that. It's something with the storm we just got hit with.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I just got messed up. So, and then I couldn't go back to sleep. So I've got, I'm running on. I don't know how Brian does this on those days where you wake up at 3 and then just get on with your day. I don't know how you do it. Yeah. I mean, there's nothing you can't do. If you can't get back to sleep, you can't get back to sleep. But I did break out the book last night. So I woke up at 4.30, broke out the Kevin Smith tough shit, I think, is his book, his autobiography. And the little red light so that I wasn't using any blue light to bathe my eyes in that warm, delicious blue light. Sure. Read his entire chapter on how much he hated working with Bruce Willis during the filming of cop-out. is that true interesting
Starting point is 00:05:01 yes why oh my god why is bruce will it's just hard to work with because you hear that sometimes he apparently is like basically you know the two of them had talked beforehand and and uh Bruce wills called him on the phone said oh man yeah you guys are great I love
Starting point is 00:05:16 I love the clerk's thing the whole thing that you're doing there you guys are like the Yankees and Kevin Smith's like oh we're more like the uh you know the Boston Bruins or the evidence like he's throwing hockey references back at him Yeah. And then it was, all right, great. Well, all right, we'll see you on the set. And then one of the first things that happened is a car drove by.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And the guy says, hey, die hard. I love you, die hard. I have die hard one, two, three, and four at home. Die hard. And he keeps driving. And Kevin Smith just watched Bruce Willis's attitude change and like turn into this, this like a belligerent child. set about like, no, that was a good enough take. Let's move on. Or I'm not going to do this
Starting point is 00:06:03 any, you know, these lines. In one scene that he was doing with Tracy Morgan, he just put on his mirrored sunglasses and sat there and made Tracy Morgan basically do exposition of both his and his own lines. Which is, which Tracy Morgan can do if he needs to. Which he can do. Yeah. Wow. That, I don't, that's a bummer to hear that. I, I want him to be chill and sitting right down and just kind of looking like Bruce Willis and, you know, be cool. Like, what's I want to feel like he's probably gotten back to that. Like, I think cop out was maybe a little bit post-peak Bruce Willis time, what year was Cop-out. So that would have been very, that's, it reminds me of Shatner, how Shatner was sort of just annoyed by Trek fans and wanted to be known for other stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I mean, I'd say that's, that's definitely post-post-Bus-Peteak time. So, and now Bruce Willis, I mean, you look at, you look at Netflix or Hulu. and all of a sudden you're seeing like 10 Bruce Willis movies that come out in the last couple years and you don't recognize a single one of them. Yeah, none of them are on the radar, which is kind of a bummer. But yeah, that's interesting. That's too much. That's a bummer. I feel bad that he's like that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 It is a bummer, yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, there you go. That's how you dealt with it. I just, that's how I dealt with it. I didn't fall back to sleep, but, but at least I, I, I, yeah. And I stared into the darkness. If I had the coffee habit, you have, you have, not habit, but you're, you know, your propensity for good coffee in the morning.
Starting point is 00:07:29 addiction, Scott? Do you want to just call an addiction? I might have some energy right now, but I just can't muster it. So if today's show, if I seem a little low on the tank, it's because I freaking am. I got like fumes in there, man. But it's okay. I'm old. I'm dumb. And let's move on. How'd your crossword weekend go? I know that we kind of got a little close-up of the stuff in our private Discord that we have for FilmSack. But tell the folks how this all went.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. So this was the weekend, as you all know, the American Crossword Puzzle Tournament, the 43rd Annual Crossword Puzzle Tournament. And the way it works is, because of virtual, you basically are doing everything with virtual crossword puzzles sent to you. And you got to complete them online and all that stuff. So we got our first ones basically around the exact same time that FilmSack was going to be starting on Saturday. So we pushed FilmSack a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And I get the first one. It's a 15 by 15 grid, 15 squares by 15 squares grid. Sure. 15 minutes to solve it. Yeah. I can sit down, I go through it. Bam, knock the thing out with five and a half minutes left. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Pretty strong. And 100% score, right? No missing letters. And here's the thing. With the app, when you fill in all the boxes, it says, ah, you've got some errors in your grid. you better fix them, but it doesn't tell you what the errors are. If you have the app tell you what the errors are, you lose your streak, your winning streak.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Gotcha. Sure. So you've just got to go through and line by line and say, oh, maybe that word, you know, that could be this or this other thing. So it's like, all right, let's, you know, figure it out. But that one 100%. All right. Great. Next one was about 35 minutes later. Did that, by the way, at that stage, do you know your placement yet? Or is this still? No, no. Not until you don't really find out. until like the, they're about an hour and a half behind on standings.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It's all done by computer, but maybe an hour behind on standing. So really, when you've completed two puzzles, then you start seeing how you did on the first one. And after the third one, then you'll see how you did on the second one, et cetera. And so the second one comes out. It's a 17 by 17 with 25 minutes to complete it. And this is where I'm like, oh, okay, things are getting a little tougher. All right, I think I can handle this. And I go through and I do my best.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I run out of time and I get 208 out of 241 boxes correct. In other words, like there were whatever that is, 32, 33 incorrect or missing letters. 72 out of 92 words ran out of time. Like, oh boy, okay, things are ramping up. Then puzzle three comes out. It's a 19 by 19. I got 30 minutes to do it. I get the whole thing done with three and a half minutes to spare.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Destroy it. However, sort of destroyed it, had two wrong letters in the grid. And I knew exactly what I did in both of them. Like, one of them was an ETA and it should have been an E.T.D. Like, it was, the clue was something like Uber, Uber statistics or something like that. Oh. But it was abbreviated stats, Uber stats. Uber stats.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'm thinking, oh, ETA, because it's going to tell you your estimated time of arrival. Well, no, apparently is estimated time of departure, which would have made the down clue make a lot more sense as Gandhi instead of being Ganahi. Ganahi. Oh, Ganahi was a great leader. It really showed us the way. And I really didn't, I didn't even think to look at that because I was looking at the acrosses and I thought, no, that looks right, right, right. So missed a little bit on that one. Fourth puzzle came out, 20 minutes, 15 by 15 grid, nailed it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 100% no missing words no incorrect letters. Nailed that one with a little over eight minutes. Not bad. Then puzzle five comes out. Now, Will Shorts who, man, I mean this dude my knowledge of Will Shorts goes all the way back to Games Magazine.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I had a subscription to Games magazine in the 80s because I'd do that thing like cover to cover and it was crosswords and mazes, oh not really mazes word searches and word puzzles and trivia and things like that. And he's the editor-in-chief of the New York Times crossword puzzle.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Right. And the host of this thing. So every time a puzzle is about to come out, you get Will Shorts sitting there in his chair with his microphone. All right. Well, if you guys are ready for puzzle number five, that one's going to be coming out. We'll have a short introduction by the puzzle as a creator. And he says, as it is every year. And there's the 43rd year of this thing.
Starting point is 00:12:21 the puzzle five is what some would call the bitch mother of all of the crossword puzzles and hearing will shorts use the phrase bitch mother yeah uh definitely got me scared and indeed it was it was a it was a it was a ridiculously painful puzzle complete give me a an idea of one of the line up or down like what's a weird let's see oh you have a handy cool well i sort of do i i have my my score on it but i can see behind it well this is the one so this is the one that i talked about a little bit in our in our discussion our chat where um there were words that got went in there that just didn't make any freaking sense so you'd get a clue like let me find it here um here we go you'd get a clue like zoro's symbol and it's four letters long right next to round trip flyers question mark which is always the indication that it's a pun oh question mark's always a pun got it question mark's always a pun and so you're thinking all right well um uh zoro's symbol is obviously a z and sometimes for letters they'll because they can't
Starting point is 00:13:38 just give you a one letter square right uh it'd be three letters and be z e e but that's still not four letters sure um and then you've got boomer or a round trip flyers, which would be boomerangs, but that the area there is way too short. So what do I do? You know, how do I figure this out? And I'm trying to get downs, but the downs are really tough. I've got a lot of empty spaces. I'm like, all right, well, let's move on. I left a lot of empties. Well, the deal was that where you had these weird pairs of words, you were supposed to move the breaking point to a different syllable in the two words. So instead of it being Z and boomerangs, it became Zibu and
Starting point is 00:14:20 marangs. Ah, Zibu and marangs. Zibu and marangs. Like marang marang pies or whatever. Sure. And until you figured that out, you had no idea what the hell. That's hard, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We're going to deal with those faces. And another pair was like Harry Potter's friend. Okay, so, Ron. And Mexican state bordering, Texas. Sorry, Chihuahua. But no, it broke in a different place. So instead of being Ron
Starting point is 00:14:47 Chihuahua. It was raunchy Wawa. Oh, geez. So on that one, I kind of shit the bed, basically. I got 34 correct words out of 94, and used up all the time. And
Starting point is 00:15:03 so did not get very many points on that one. But you ended up, my understanding is you ended up placing overall in like a pretty respectable place. I did okay. I mean, I did 840th out of 1,250s. So in the top two-thirds, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Pretty good. It's all right. First time doing it. I didn't look to see they had standings for like different groups, right? So, um, uh, rookies were in their own little cluster and I didn't see how I did among the other
Starting point is 00:15:36 rookies. I was in the rookie league because this was my first year of doing it. Um, so I'll look back and see how I did among the other rookies. But all in all, I had a good time. It was, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It was worth it. And I still, because film sac came out the same time as puzzle number six, I haven't done puzzle number six yet. It's sitting. Oh, you can do it whenever, I guess. Yeah, I can do it whenever. I'm doing it for zero points, but at least I can do it. You can just do it, yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Well, that's awesome. I will say this. I would much rather hang out with people that are in the 800s than the top 10. I don't want to be around those people. Yeah. Oh, they're all jerks. Psychopats. You look at chat.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And there's so many people who like, you know, after puzzle too, where I struggled and, you know, missed an eighth of the puzzle. And people are like, I just want to gauge how well I did on that one. Who all got under five minutes on that? How screw you. It's like, get out of here. You're in the wrong chat room, dude. You're not genuinely asking. You're pulling out your EP.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, why don't you ascend to S League, you freaking turd monkey? Exactly. Exactly. Need that crap in here? Well, I'm glad it was fun. It sounded like fun. And crossword puzzles me. And next year with, you know, if things are back to normal or closer to normal and they can do this thing in person, I might actually go out to Stanford, Stanford, Connecticut and do it in person.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Nice. Do they do it? I just don't want to hang out with some of these people during the Friday night and Saturday night social gatherings. Yeah, I was going to say, you got to take your wife or somebody you like. and for all your off time. Tina wants to go, so she'll hang out and do Connecticut things. Yeah. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It just sounds like an annoying bunch. I don't know why. Just a few. I mean, just the ones that are being duches in chat. Yeah, I'm sure. I think there are a lot of other people that are. They're all probably fine, but that top five would be a real crapshoot.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't know. The number one, by the way, was a thing called Dr. Phil. And this guy has used AI to come up with a computer program that automatically does crossword puzzles in seconds and it didn't used to be this good it debuted in like 2014 it's Dr. Phil F-I-L
Starting point is 00:17:54 and there's great YouTube videos of it completing crosswords poorly for the first few years it came out but this year it actually solved everything but the the bitch mother puzzle in like a few seconds with 100%
Starting point is 00:18:10 accuracy that should be the name of the computer bitch mother bitch mother yeah i agree i agree with that bitch mother are we close how close are we to the planet now bitch mother that was the worst character
Starting point is 00:18:23 in alien five yeah alien five really jumped the shark yeah mother was fine I don't know why they felt like they had to change it bitch mother not so much make her the bitch mother all right well that sounds awesome I have a request for the chat room
Starting point is 00:18:38 and anyone listening to this within the sound of our voices a little advice please here's the question. We have a little zone in the backyard, all right? We're putting in seed, or seed is already in, trying to grow grass where there is no grass or there was grass before, but isn't now because the dogs have decided to destroy the area that had grass.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And they did that just by running through it and be in dorks. It's a high traffic zone. Sure. Yes. And one of them's a big Weimeriner monster dog horse. And she just has a way of ripping up everything. And in fact, her name is Ripley, speaking of alien. anyway so she she's bitch mother she exactly and she is she has the hardest time staying out of there
Starting point is 00:19:19 doesn't matter what we do or say uh or how we try to you know tell her after that she did you know no stay out of here or whatever she just doesn't care and so we started putting uh she just looks at you like deniro going hey i'm walking here kind of yeah kind of so what we did to try to take care of this is we put up a little mesh we got at the home depot or something like a little mesh protective wall net that just kind of goes around it and of course her first thought was to go outside rainer saw it and freaked out and never went near it okay mission accomplished well done ripley went out and saw it and went we and decided to jump it jump over it and be in there that way and then when we yelled at her too short uh mesh and when we yelled at her she tore through it
Starting point is 00:20:05 uh and broke it so uh question is out there there anybody you got any ideas do we put a little sprinkle a little uh i don't know freaking witch hazel or something to just keep her away you have the right idea the thing i was going to suggest is mesh or chicken wire we've got some chicken wire that we have a we have a fence that's big enough that a small dog can come come in and out and um neither of our dogs are small enough or we're small enough to get through there but we had this chicken wire for when our friends dogs would come over because they could get through right so uh but yeah i guess just get taller fencing and just make it undesirable for them to get in there.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Someone in the chat says sarcastirad says mint oil. I've heard peppermint oil is a real dog repellent. They'll just stay away from it. But I don't know how to, I mean. But I think she'll just run right. The problem is that if there's mint oil, she may not even notice it because she's just going through that area to get to where she wants, right? Oh, right. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:21:08 it's a venue or it's an avenue not a venue yeah she treats it like it's her own freaking playground but um anyway yeah well i appreciate so i would say yeah i'd say just taller some sort of taller fencing that sounds good and if anybody at home hears this and they're like i got an idea you need to do z then let me know and we'll take care of it z is z in the by the way when they say z z that's right that actually that comes up as a that's a frequent crossword uh answer by the way z is it is it Why is that, do you suppose? Is that just a...
Starting point is 00:21:40 Because it's an easy way for them to put a Z into the puzzle. You know, the better crossword puzzle makers tend to make sure there's at least one Q, 1X, and 1 Z in all their puzzles. That makes sense. Yeah. You got to get Zs in there somehow, I say. You've got to get Zs in there somehow. And that's by playing this. That's right, everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Time for us to play Babel Royale, Monday edition, with our good pal and friends. Brian Dunaway. Hi, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. The Monday edition. It is the Monday edition. Hey, do you remember saying this, by the way, this right here? My balls are getting kind of squishy.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Do you remember that? Man, I don't remember anything I say. But I definitely know that was my voice. They could totally come up with the AI that would say anything. And you'd play it for me. I'd be like, yeah, that's me. Yeah, you wouldn't be surprised. I confess.
Starting point is 00:22:33 That's you playing some game on one of your streams. Oh, yeah. that's that's what it was it was i was i could hear the popping now yeah my my balls are getting squishy i have like a a rabbit hat that you can squeeze the little air balls that make the make the ears pop up yeah they're running out of juice they used to be really firm yeah and then i got older and now they're kind of squishy yeah your balls are squishy as you get older yeah heard that uh and it's somebody i forgot who sent it in it may have been um i think it was i core who sent that in so so thank you i quality audio too boy that i couldn't deny that. I know. I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:07 what microphone you were using on that, but it felt like you were in my head. You can even hear the little balls. My balls are getting kind of squishy. Can you hear that? It sounded me like you were playing with billiard balls or something. They have that density. Like, take them together. That's pretty good. Tamp your balls
Starting point is 00:23:23 together. That's what you say. All right, hey, Donoway's here. He's joining us today after a really rigorous film sack yesterday. But no, he doesn't rest. He doesn't take his time up. Rigorous. I'm real. I'm real still, baby. I'm ready to go. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So welcome to it. We're going to get a listener on the line real quick and find out who's been holding so patiently here. Hi, who's this? Hatch for short. In the chat. Whoa, extreme high productions. Hey. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Man, it's been a minute. My first day back in like two months. Yeah. It's been a while, man. You're doing okay? Doing well, thank you. Oh, that's fantastic. It's always good to hear from you.
Starting point is 00:24:01 We're going to see if we can't win you a little something today. Brian, you want to explain how this contest works and what he might win? Well, I'll do my best. I'll do my best. Hatch for short, we're going to be giving Scott and Brandon topic. They're going to go back and forth, giving me answers that fit that topic. If one of them gives a wrong answer, a repeated answer, or they take too long to come up with an answer, the win goes to the other player. Your job is to predict who's going to come out on top based on the topic.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Today, you are playing for a random signed, hand-drawn pencil sketch from Scott Johnson, as well as a frog pants, print pack, send right to your home. Oh, right to his door. That's cool. That's where you want it is your door. Contactless delivery of said items. The mailman will huck it at your door from the curb. He'll throw it like a car, like Gambit does his cards.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Right, exactly, yes. And all you hear is the thump. Yep. All right. So you do you guys need a topic. There was this thing on last night called the Oscars. Oh, good. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Inspired me to write a question. Seeing a couple of the people who were nominated, it made me think about, oh, who have been the most nominated, not the most wins, but the most nominated actresses, either whether it's best actress or best supporting actress of all time, who has had the most nominations. And I will tell you that this does go, this cover is a lot of current modern actresses and a lot of older actresses. So think, they're nominations, the nominations where they win, we don't count that even if they've been nominated. We do. We do count that. Good, good. Yeah. They got nominated and won. A winner is an absolute. It's like, yeah, they have to be nominated. Yeah, that's true. But the reason I'm asking is I know that there's some who win a lot, but also get nominated a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:58 They're kind of in both categories, so I just want to make sure I'm getting the right idea. These are the most nominated and most nominated women. And I'm saying anyone who's been nominated five times or more counts in this list. Five or more. They get a jacket like S&L. Do they get, is that something else? They get a jacket of liquor that they go and drink sadly by themselves at the eye heart. I'm really good.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I'm really good. Is that really a thing that you can contain liquor, a jacket of liquor? Is that a thing? No, it's completely. none of what I said is correct. Like a cask or a... It feels correct. They might have a flask in their hip pocket or their fanny pack.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Got it. And they'll pull that flask out and drink. Oh, sorry, you're a bum bag. We know, we know. We know what a fanny is. We know what a fanny is. A Dakota fanny. Don't guess, don't guess, Dakota Fanny.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I can't guess. I can't guess, okay. Don't guess. Dakota Fanny. There are, because Bobby wanted to know, there are 31 names in this list of women who've been nominated five times or more.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Okay. I like this. What's the... Not as much, but I am okay with it. Hatch for short, now that you've heard their confidence in this game, who do you think will win and who's going to come out on... Or who do you want to go first? I guess, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:20 who's going to win and who's going to come out on top is really the same question. Hey, Dunaway, I love you, but Scouts giving away the prizes today. You've made the right choice. And I'll give you each besides your initial mulligan. I feel like the difficulty on this one could be high as we get into the later name. So I'm going to give you each two mulligans. Okay, two mulligans. I'm going to give you the ten mulligans.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I'm going to give you the five mulligans for each liquor bottle in their jacket. Two carry mulligans. Got it. Two carry mulligans. So what? Hatch for short, who'd you want to start? You'd start too. Okay, both and both.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I can do that. All right, well, I'll get an easy one out the door here and just say, Merrill Streep. I assume she's got to be in the Fiver Club. It's a really good, good guess. She's had 17 best actress nominations for best supporting actress nominations. The total of 21 nominations,
Starting point is 00:28:20 and she's only won three times. What? So she is at the top of the list. Oh, she's at the top. Okay. Who, you scare me. Oh, no, you thought I was going to say she doesn't count? No, I thought you said three, I thought you said, you said one, but I thought three times nominated.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It was like, that's not what you just said. No, oh my God. Only three wins, yeah. Okay, good. Cramer versus Kramer, Sophie's choice, and the Iron Lady were her own. Not even a good listener today. All right. Apparently not.
Starting point is 00:28:47 This should go really well. Yeah, I'm sure this would work out well for me. So I'm going to go with, she's been all over the, all over the, you know, the entertainment biz news, Francis McDormand. That's right. And then the wolf right there. Three best actress, three best supporting, giving her six nominations total. She's won three times, including Nomad Land, and Fargo and three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri. That puts her in the three, I was reading this morning.
Starting point is 00:29:18 She's in the top three, there's only, there's three women alive that have that same status. That have three wins? yeah and Meryl Streep's one of them and then I don't know who the other one is which would be helpful because then I would say that person's name yeah then you'd say that person's name yeah I'll have to think about it um okay let's do let's go old school and pull out like um oh who's the one that went we were on the golden pond oh uh I don't think she actually said that in the movie but no she doesn't Catherine Hepburn I believe Catherine Hepburn 12 best actress nominations. Never nominated for Best Supporting Actress, but she's won four times. So she is one of those people with high number of wins. But I don't think Catherine Hepburn is still with us. But it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:30:11 She's on the list with 12 nominations. Morning Glory, guess who's coming to dinner, land in winter, and on Golden Pond, as you quoted from. Oh, nomin, you woman. Why are we so mean? All right, I'm going to go with I'm going to go with somebody who always abuses their body and always really goes into their roles.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And I'm not a big watcher of these award shows. Sure. But she's always a topic. And that's Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron. Theron. I don't like the quiet. I don't like the quiet.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Nope. Let me see. how many nominations she's had though but she I think
Starting point is 00:31:01 has only had a couple nominations really yeah the bombshell last year was definitely
Starting point is 00:31:07 nomination but here we go let's see Monster North County and bombshell three nominations
Starting point is 00:31:17 for best actress that's it that's it yep but what are her performance in ion flux yeah
Starting point is 00:31:22 what about her performance in Mad Max Fury Road. What about her performance in everything? What about three days in the valley? Yeah, you've got one more. So give another answer immediately. You've used up your first mulligan. What about Mighty Joe Young?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, Mighty Joe Young. Best supporting actress. Sissy's basic. She did so many great things. Coal Miner's daughter, I mean, she, oh, she's just been such a force. Come on. She was in coal miners' daughter. That was her only win, but she has been nominated six times.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Oh, God. I thought I was running through. That was going to be a short game. That was my point. Barely made it. Barely made it. All right. I'm pretty sure Jody Foster is in there. The top has got to be. Oh, are you sure about that? Well, no. If I'm honest, no. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You know, funny, Jody Foster's been nominated a lot for directing. Yeah. But as far as her nominations go, I'm going to, I'm stalling because she's not on my list, but I do want to see, I want to confirm that. It sounds right. I mean, she is an actress, so she has to win them for all for her acting abilities? Yeah. Well, that's this whole thing is best actress, supporting actress. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So, directing nominations or producing nominations. Well, I'm sure she doesn't, in casual conversation, I'm sure she doesn't distinguish the two. She just goes, yeah, I'm a five-time Oscar winner. And you don't go, actress, right? I win all the Oscars. She has been nominated four times in the acting category. Taxi driver, the accused Silence of the Lambs, and Nell. So four nominations in the acting category.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And does it not qualify her for this list? Prop polio. That's right. I got to go right again. You got to get the Mulligan, so right, jump right back in. Let's do... Oh, geez. Now I'm not as confident as I was.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I took a punch to the face. I'm not as confident anymore. I'm not so confident. Okay, let's do... What's her name now? Name just escape me. The queen. on. Oh, Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren. She's a good choice. Helen Mirren is a very good
Starting point is 00:33:54 choice. Please tell me, she's a great choice with six at least. Oh, he's taken too long. Oh, my God. Let me confirm. Oh, my God. No, I'm saying I don't think she's on the list. No, that can't be. You're losing. That can't be. I'm kind of surprised by this, but hold on a second. Let's find her awards and recognition nominations and awards Academy Awards four nominations
Starting point is 00:34:24 at the Academy Awards two for best supporting two for best actress Madness of King George Gossford Park the queen in the last station no she is not so you've used your second mulligan this is your last chance
Starting point is 00:34:37 you need to come up with something okay like I said I'm not winning you're losing I love it I am losing. Uh, uh, oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:34:50 oh, geez. I'm struggling here, suddenly. You know what? My confidence was shattered. Yeah, that lack of sleep, too. Uh, yeah, that doesn't help. I mean, think old Hollywood. Oh, you know who I, I know who I like.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Um, uh, uh, uh, Shirley McLean. She's got to be in this. Shirley McLean. Sure. Shirley, Shirley, she has. Shirley MacLean is. And surely she is. She only won for terms of endearment, but she does have five other
Starting point is 00:35:20 or four other best actress nominations. No best supporting actress nominations, but... Shoot. She's always a main lady. So she does have five total. Okay. Shoot. Gosh, dang it. Back over to Brian.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Shoot. That feels like a near miss. No, I got to figure it out. You said Queen, I thought I tried to think of fancy but I'm like, did they give Oscars to fancy truly British
Starting point is 00:35:46 actresses I know the show I split some a good performance Judy Dench Oh we love to do you do Dame Judy Dench The other queen Listen out seven
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm tired of your bullshit Don't come in here anymore I was like oh Yeah the only thing she ever won for Was Shakespeare in Love But she has five total Best Actress nominations And two
Starting point is 00:36:08 Best Supporting Actress nominations Total of seven Dame Judy Denton absolutely on the list. Back to Scott. Okay. I'm staying old school. I have luck there. Oh, with the eyes. Betty Davis.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, I thought she was going to say the one with the big eyes. No, not her. You were going to say Marty Feldman, weren't you? Marty Feldman. Yes, Betty Davis, 10 best actress nominations. Oh, geez. No supporting, and she only won twice, once for Dangerous, and once for Jezebel. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Chisabelle Yes I think I only have one more If it's Cripes Um Did I already Did I say
Starting point is 00:36:58 You said old school She's kind of mid school I'm going to go with Jesus Sally Field She always seems to She always seems to be I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:10 We like her We really like her She's the people's choice. She's the people's choice. She is. Yeah, we like her. We really, oh, crap, I don't like how you said that.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We really, really like her. Jesus. However, she does not have five nominations. She has a best actress for Places in the Heart, the Best Actress for Norma Ray. And a few more. A few more. Best supporting actress for Lincoln. Lincoln?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, she was great. She was really good. That's where it is. She was really good in Lincoln. She's great in Lincoln. Now I'm losing. Yeah, you are. So that's your second and last.
Starting point is 00:37:51 That was it. Mulligan, you've got to come up with somebody. Oh, I got to come up with somebody else? Oh, crap. I thought I lost there. Okay. Mariner, marion, marion, marion, marn it. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I'm going with Mother dearest Fay, Dunaway. Oh, Faye Dunaway. Sure. Mommy. I'm going with my namesake. No, fire hangers. Oh, let's just pull the Band-Aid off. No, Fade-Dow.
Starting point is 00:38:17 No, that's good, man. Brian. Hatch for short wins. Yeah, that's good. And I have a couple of, glad for you. I have two more guesses. Let me just see if I was anywhere near. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Correct. Sure. I had Jane Fonda here at the last minute if I needed her. No, no, no, Jane Fonda. Oh, I'm sorry, no, I'm sorry. Take that back. Yes, Jane Fonda with six. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I'm sorry, seven total. Was that all for Barbarilla? Was that? She only won for Clute and Coming Home, but she's been nominated seven times. Clute. And then the other one was, I can't remember if we said her or not, but Ingrid Bergman. Oh, Ingrid Bergman, big one. Also seven.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Wow. Six nominations for Best Actress, one nomination for supporting actress, and she won three times. Okay. So I would have been okay for that. You was definitely going to win in this. Well, then you know what that means. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. It means that it happens.
Starting point is 00:39:10 for short is our big winner. Well done, dude. You picked right. How's that feel? How are you doing over there? You good? Awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Awesome. That's great. That's fantastic. I'm going to send you this stuff, but I can't do it unless you send me an email. I don't know if I've gotten emails from me before, but you can send me another one. Scott at frogpants.com and I will get your info and send your stuff and maybe even throw in a little bonus thing or two. I don't know. A bonus bone.
Starting point is 00:39:35 A bonus bonner. Bonus boner. Let me give you guys the rest of these answers, by the way. please. Geraldine Page, Glenn Close. You saw her doing the butt last night on the Oscars. Kate Blanchett,
Starting point is 00:39:48 Greer Garson, Kate Winslet, Jessica Lang, Maggie Smith, Ellen Burstyn, Vanessa Redgrave, Amy Adams, six nominations. Zero wins. Deborah Kerr, Thelma Ritter,
Starting point is 00:40:00 yeah, Livy to Havlin, Elizabeth Taylor, Anne Bancroft, Susan Hayward, Audrey Hepburn, Jennifer Jones, Julianne Moore,
Starting point is 00:40:08 five nominations, only one wins. Susan Sarandon, same thing. Norma Shear and Irene Dunn. A lot of names that genie is more familiar with them. The rest of us, yeah. The rest of us. The Amy Adams thing is surprising to me.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I thought she won something. But she'll get hers. She'll get hers. She will. She'll get hers. She's too good to not. Just a reminder, I suck at Oscar stuff. And I say, I'm going to study up every time.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I'd never do. Yeah, well, done. Well, at least it wasn't like about last night's stuff. If you missed that. because I didn't watch it either. I didn't even watch it last night. I watched the results on like a web page and didn't go near the thing. And every time I could pop up on my headline news, I just kind of keep on going.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah, I was more exciting than watching the actual thing. Although we had people over, so we were watching it as kind of a. The only impression I got was is people were very angry. And I'm like, well, people angry? People, yeah, there's a lot of consternation about the watchers. No, no, no, it's because watchers weren't angry. It's because I don't even know why. I just saw headlines.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I know why. People were mad that Chabok Bozeman didn't win. They're just pissed. Well, yeah. And also they really screwed up. And this is why I don't watch the Oscars anyway, because I'm like, eh. They're like, oh, let's change a bunch of things, partially because of COVID also because let's make it, you know, let's refresh it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And so they almost, since 1972, they've ended the Oscars with the best picture. It's always the last thing. And they decided, let's mix it up. We'll put Best Actor and. Best Actress at the end, actually in reverse order, Best Actress and Best Actor, because let's go out with this big exciting moment of Chadwick Bozeman
Starting point is 00:41:46 winning Best Actor. Oh, no. They said themselves for failure. Oh, no. So Francis McDormon got up and won for Best Actress, and she had the shortest speech of like, all right, well, this is cool and blah, blah, blah. All right, thanks, bye, and she gets off the stage.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah. Please don't kill me. And then Chadwick Boseman doesn't win. His widow was there ready to give a speech. but Anthony Hopkins wins He wasn't there And so basically is like And best acting goes to Anthony Hopkins
Starting point is 00:42:14 He's not here Guess we're done See everybody We're out That's a dumb idea The movie should always be the final thing That's so stupid Because you know everybody's gonna be there
Starting point is 00:42:24 For the movie That's so stupid I wondered what was going on On the web feed I was reading Because I was just waiting for results And refreshing And I was like wait They did picture already
Starting point is 00:42:33 What happened to actors Oh they're doing them in this order That's effed up That's a stupid They literally, they literally strung us along. Oh, that's this dirty pool. And they did this thing where instead of showing clips, they only showed clips in a couple of categories.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And they did this to like give the winners a little bit more time to talk. Here's the problem with that. It gives the winners a little bit more time to talk. Yeah, you don't need that. And nobody wants that. I mean, it's like you want to just hear 1,800 names of people you don't know. and don't care about that they have to think. No, I want to see clips.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I want to see the movies I didn't watch and get an idea of if I want to watch them or not. Yeah, that's poopie. I'm not into it. Well, all I know is I'm just really glad that Hatch for short one, so congratulations again, man. Well done. And the rest of you all, if you guys want to be here on Mondays and Wednesdays,
Starting point is 00:43:26 we play this every week. And if you do that, you come here live, you can call in and, like, win stuff. And that's pretty cool. So we recommend it. Hey, Brian Dunaway, not today, but tomorrow at 3.30 Mountain Time, you and I will be sitting down to do an episode of the Boop show, B-O-O-O-P, talking about the indie games of the week that we've been playing. I've been playing something rad called Orbital Bullet, and it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I jumped into that as well, and that is a lot of fun and a really unique name. It's great, dude. I'm so excited to talk about it. So watch for that. What are you playing this week? I forgot. I'm playing rain on your parade, as suggested by the community. They were right. It's on the Xbox game pass, and I'm a little rain cloud, and I'm trying
Starting point is 00:44:13 to rain on everybody's parade. It's a puzzle. It's a puzzle. You've got to figure them out. You've got to make your little achievements. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of humor. You got the humor, the people, the rain. You got all of it. Yeah. You can learn all about that tomorrow at 3.30 Mountain Time for a live boop show or check it out on the podcast afterfrogance.com slash boop. I'll be doing my homework tonight, by the way, at 5.30. Oh, you'll be streaming it. Eastern time. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I'll be streaming.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Second part. Twitch. dot TV slash Brian Dunaway, everybody. Brian. Do it. Dunnall. I have a fantastic day and may your butt be moving. I don't know what that means by.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I was thinking of a debbutt joke, but I couldn't think of one. I guess she was sort of stole the show, I guess. I didn't see it, so I've known. It was a scripted moment, and you could tell it was scripted. It was lame. It didn't need to be done. everybody on line acts like it was great and I'm like that doesn't
Starting point is 00:45:08 sound great it sounds like she she gave this you know answered a trivia question about the song debutt and and all this background about the band they created
Starting point is 00:45:22 and stuff and it was just it just looked like it was so forced and painful and it just was really bad but the real if you asked me the real star of the show was the woman who won for Best Supporting actress for Minari and she was a great. Older Korean
Starting point is 00:45:38 woman. Her speech was the best one of the night. Nice. Well done, Korea. You did it again. So I'm going to run down just the big ones real quick before we take a break. We got Best Picture ended up being Nomad Land. Not a huge surprise. Seemed like it was the front runner for a while there. Yep. For sure.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Let's see. Best director went to Chloe Zhao of who made Nomad Land. She's sure her story great. She's great and somebody pointed out, Jedi 71 pointed out she's going to be, or Eternals is going to be the first Marvel MCU film
Starting point is 00:46:14 directed by an Oscar winner. Yeah. Yep. Because Kenneth Brunag never won for directing. He's been nominated a few times for acting, but never, he's never won ever. Right. And Black Panther was nominated, so you could say I forgot his name. Was that
Starting point is 00:46:31 director nominated for his name? No, he hadn't won for anything else. so it doesn't count. But this does. So well done. The Eternals, I'm very excited about that because her style is really interesting. Best actor went to Anthony Hopkins for the father. This was a bit of an upset. I think everybody wanted Chadwick Boseman. But I think part of us, I mean, we have to admit, most of us wanted that because he passed away. And we also think it was an amazing performance at the same time. But I've heard some say, you could argue Anthony Hopkins put in the better performance, maybe. You could argue any of those. five. Stephen Youan was amazing
Starting point is 00:47:06 in Minari. Riz Ahmed was fantastic in sound metal. And Anthony Hopkins made you, like he really sold the Alzheimer's dementia thing. It was amazing. Sure. Riz Ahmed, Star Wars Actor, nominated for Best Actor. That's pretty good. That's right. First Muslim
Starting point is 00:47:22 nominated for... Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah. Best actress went to Francis McDormin for No Man Land. I think she... Or Nomad Land. She did great. Also, No Man Land. Yeah, no Man Land. Yeah, I didn't know Carrie Mulligan was hanging out with the founder of the Mumford and Sons band. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:47:43 That's her husband? She was on SNL. He came out and they're, yeah. They're an item. They're a thing. An item, sure. Yes. Here's the thing that surprised me.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. Aaron Sorkin shows up to the Oscars with Paulina Poroscova on his arm. What? Yeah. Those two are they're making their couple's debut last night at the Oscars. Weird. Yeah. How did that one come together, I wonder.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I don't know. They were walking briskly down the halls of the West Wing and having a conversation. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay, it makes sense. Let's see here. You got your best supporting actor, went to Daniel Kalooia. I never say it right for Judas and the Black Messiah.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So we got another MCU winner there. Dude, what was he from, what was he from, from Black Panther? He was the, Black Panther. Yep. Get out guy. Anyway, he's great. Yes. Best supporting.
Starting point is 00:48:34 actress, Yo-Jung Yun from Minari. Yeah. Beating out all those other people. And then you got your best screenplay for the father. Best original screenplay, that was adapted. Best original screenplay for Promising Young Woman. I'm really glad it won something and needed to. That's a rad movie.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Best animated film went to Seoul, beating out their other Pixar movie Onward. I'm torn on that. I still haven't seen Soul, so I can't really be torn, but I love Onward so much. It's just hard for me. great. Soul's, no pun intent, but soul's got heart.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. Wolf Walkers, which I have not seen yet, I'm being told by all my animation geek friends that Wolfwalkers is amazing and should be watched. It looks so good.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I keep seeing the panel come up on our TV when it's like, all right, let's jump in and watch something and we never jump on Wolf Walkers, but we probably will.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Traditional animation, baby. Yep. Best documentary. You went to my octopus teacher. The only other one I'd seen on that list was Crip Camp, And that was awesome, so this one must be real good. So, but you hadn't seen my octopus teacher?
Starting point is 00:49:37 No, you have seen that. No, I have not. I want to see that. And I'm worried that it's the one that everyone was talking about last year where the octopus gets into a fight with a shark or something. Oh, I have no idea. Yeah. That sounds like a rip-or-arm. It's on our list to watch now because it looks really cute.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah. You got your, let's see, I'm getting down, nobody cares about that. Sound of Metal did win in Best Editing and then Best Sets. Sound. Best sound. That's right there in the name. Should win for best sound. There you go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Cinematography went to Mank, as did the, what was the other Mink one? Production Design. So Mink got its due. Best visual effects went to Tent, a film I still haven't seen. Oh, it's good. I think it's on HBO Max now. Oh, well, I should have no excuse then. Yeah, it's twisty, very twisty, trippy, very cool.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Best score went to soul and best original song went to. to fight for you from Judas and the Black Messiah. Makeup and hairstyling went to Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, Best Sound, Sound of Metal and Best Animated Short. If anything happens, I love you. And you watched the documentary
Starting point is 00:50:47 shorts, so let's see. What's this one? We watched all the animated documentary on live action short films, and I didn't predict any of these three. I thought I thought Burrow was going to win for animated short. I thought Hunger Ward was going to win for a short subject, and I thought, um, feeling
Starting point is 00:51:03 through was going to win for live action short oh man you yeah you did you lose any money on there i still won for the night i still had the the most correct picks out of the house but uh do you have any cash on this or no uh had a starbucks gift card was what was what was on the line that's perfect low stakes i like them i like yep exactly uh oh don't say steak that sounds really good i need some all right we're going to take a break when we come back our good pal uh who will be here bill deran he'll be here we got a question for him today so we're going to ask that and he's to answer it and help all you burgeoning young crafters out there with a cool question about putting yourself on the internet also major spoilers after that with a bunch of cool stuff so stick
Starting point is 00:51:42 around before that though a song selection from the library of brian ibbett yeah this is going to be a fun one this is fred lee and the restless and uh it's headed up by a guy named frederick lindquist shorts it to fred lee he's actually the former singer and frontman of the Swedish hardcore band Totald Yalva Morker. But he's launched his own new solo project. This is to me, and you guys
Starting point is 00:52:11 will be able to confirm or deny this, but it sounds like a Bruce Springsteen song being sung by the lead singer of the Pogues. Oh, weird. Evan or Ewan, Ewan McGregor. That's quite the combo you've
Starting point is 00:52:25 described. It is. It's quite the combo. This is, Fredley and the Restless with their song, devil's chokehold. Way, bus try, won't you take us home to misbrough punks in a freezing cold? I didn't know the night would end like this. I get sung by sweet,
Starting point is 00:52:59 deadly kiss But I take my words For anything I was raised to keep my mouth shut I thought I'd given of everything But the night To call her God
Starting point is 00:53:14 But in You know There was got No devil's got So go on us And hey Because I'm not going back again I'm never my friend
Starting point is 00:53:45 So my friend wake me up again Because this guy is like We'll hurricane I don't want to be a dead right in the city Because if I wake up, I wake up happy So let us try and let us up on the next stop We'll find our wrong way home Stumbling through the trees and bushes
Starting point is 00:54:09 Waiting for the neck from the storm But he No devil's got it No devil's got it's chocolate going to miss and age because I'm not again
Starting point is 00:54:36 never my friend God Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh
Starting point is 00:55:02 Oh Oh Oh Oh rescue me from this rage I'll turn around and I'll go back again because the only light
Starting point is 00:55:32 but I can see whiz from your car heading against me Blood red tonight But don't by all Beating Art To get your ass up And get down here
Starting point is 00:56:02 Tonight we're on the rumble again And hey You know I'm telling us guys You're going to know And A. Because I'm not going back again. I'm never, my friend.
Starting point is 00:56:38 All right, let's go. I want us to get out of here as quickly as we can. All right. the morning stream there's nothing wrong with the food all right welcome back brian that song again that song again was fred lee and the restless with their song devil's chokehold very nice welcome back from the break everyone we're here we're here we're not queer but we're okay with it. We're okay with it. Yeah, we're totally fine with it. We've gotten used to it. We've gotten used to it. I saw a really
Starting point is 00:57:25 funny video that is, I thought was kind of true. It was a TikTok video, of course, because I spent some time on there. And this guy just did the different generations and their reaction to finding out that a character on a show they like is now gay. And so they showed Gen Z and Gen Z is this. Like they announce it and they just watch. They don't even, it doesn't even flinched. It's not even a reaction. Gen erg what do you call it Millennials
Starting point is 00:57:53 They see it and they go All right Here we go Okay All right Like they're like You know pretty excited They get to Gen Z
Starting point is 00:58:00 And we go Oh Like we kind of point at it And act like You know kids And then you get to You get to the boomers And they go
Starting point is 00:58:10 It was really funny And kind of nail That is really funny Yeah What's funny we had that conversation wake me up before you go-go randomly played on shuffle
Starting point is 00:58:25 and I said to Tina how did we not figure out that George Michael was gay until yeah like how is this I mean you know yeah he didn't ever have to come out yeah
Starting point is 00:58:38 it's great for him but how did we take so long for us to figure out she's like I don't know me and my girlfriends had such a crush on him and I'm like yeah Yeah. I mean, yeah, if you think about it, it makes sense. But at the time, we didn't know. We don't know. Right. Exactly. Wham? Bam. Thank you, ma'am. All right. Hey, check this out, everybody. Listen to this thing right here. Where is it? It's right here. Nope. Stephen. Schlecker. Oh, this isn't him. What am I doing? Why did I call you first? I'm such an idiot. Stephen will call you back. All right. I'm so done. I don't know why I called him first. I'm supposed to be calling Bill. Bill is the guy we're calling. Scott, you dumb ass. All right. We're getting. Bill on the line. And we're going to do that real fast.
Starting point is 00:59:20 He's not Steven Schlecker. Yeah, what's the deal with that? Your bat caves open there, Bill. Hey, look who it is. It's Bill Duran from PunishProps.com joining us this morning. I have no sleep in me today. I'm tired scoff. I'm sorry, I'm not Steven.
Starting point is 00:59:36 No, it's okay. I hear if you have that option, it's a good one. I say, go for it. It's an expensive upgrade. We can all be Stephen. Yeah. You can't. It's not.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Right now even Stephen can't be Stephen. Yeah, that's true. At the moment, he is not allowed to even be him. But you are allowed to be you, and it's good to have you here. We have them on Mondays, of course, talk about the world of makers and making things and Bill's all about that with punished props. So we're going to do that today, and we're going to start with this question we got from a dude what named himself, PDP, I think, or P-T-E-P, I don't know how you're supposed to sit. PDP. I would say PDP, right?
Starting point is 01:00:12 Well, yeah, its first name is PD, it's lower-k, like, P-E-T-E-Y, lowercase. and then capital P, so PDP. So it's always, EY is always P-D. Oh, I would say that. Because if I say, hey, that's H-E-Y, and that's not pronounced, he. So it could be P-T-P. It could be P-T-A-P, but it's definitely PDP. Well, anyway, he says this.
Starting point is 01:00:35 The rest of this is very easy to pronounce. It says, Dear Bill and TMS guys, that's us. Here's one for Bill, if you please. Bill, do you hire out for video editing? and if so, why? And is it worth it? If not, I would love to know about your general workflow and methods so that you get, don't get burned out on video editing when you would rather be creating the stuff you make video of,
Starting point is 01:00:55 thanks, PDP. I've had this question for you also because I had spending enough time with video myself, I know it can just be a real sync of time and is not the most fun you could be having, unless you're just really into editing video. What do you do? Do you hire out for this stuff?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Do you do it yourself? Like, how does that all work? All right. Well, this is an awesome question, and I have a lot of fun stuff to talk about. Great. First thing about video editing, and I'll answer all questions. Don't you worry. But first thing about editing is I don't not like video editing.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I'm fine with it. I think most people who edit video, who are good at it, at the very most don't hate it. Right. I don't think anyone's editing video with a massive smile on their face going like, yeah, having a good time. Cutting video. It's just so tedious, you know. However, I think some people are good at it and they can stand it for long periods of time. And I happen to be one of those people.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I can edit video for hours on end without crying or anything. Sure. However, we have, we shoot a lot of video and we have a lot of other things we're working on. So, I think four. years ago, Brit started editing our videos. She does most of the filming and editing. Although
Starting point is 01:02:22 we trade back and forth on a lot of stuff. She just does, it happens to do the lion's share of it. Now, I want to dive into editing and especially PDP here, use the word burnout. I want to talk a little bit about that and
Starting point is 01:02:38 a little bit about being on YouTube and how video editing plays a role in all of them. so making videos takes a lot of time right um i should say making a good well-thought-out video that you're proud of takes a long time uh you have to write it or outline it or plan it you've got to film the whole thing then you have to edit the whole thing and i know a ton of people a lot of prospective video creators that i personally know who are sitting on mountains of unedited video footage a lot of people get to that point.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Is it, you mean like not just B-roll, but like stuff they actually need to get in there. Yeah, like fill out full-on projects. I know a lot of people who film a lot of their prop costume projects. And then they don't edit it because they realize it just takes forever. Right. And then, of course, if you're, you know, you got that first edit done, you may have to go in and refine stuff, you may have to refilm some stuff, you may have to do some more edits. It's a very long and tedious process.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And YouTube audiences have generated. grown to expect a new video every week. And they generally expect you or whoever's put in that videos to publish a video every week, pretty much indefinitely, pretty much forever, right?
Starting point is 01:03:57 This can lead to your creator getting caught in this infinite loop of video production. Or basically, you upload a video, let's say, on Monday, the video goes out. You're like, oh, I'm so proud of that,
Starting point is 01:04:12 video, but I got to start next week's video today. And you're just caught in that infinite loop. And I've been there. We don't do videos every week anymore, but when we were, we were working all week, usually working through the
Starting point is 01:04:28 weekend, getting the video out on Monday, and then starting the next one that same day. And we did that for months, months on end. Right. And that's too much. Way too much. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. The thing is, like, with video production, you're engaged the whole time. If I'm on camera, I'm building something and I'm talking to the camera, my brain is on 110%. And then when it comes to editing, you can't listen to music when you edit video. You can't put on a podcast. You have to be 100% in case. Yeah, unless you're doing something that is 100% purely like a templated sort of visual thing that you do every time or whatever, distractions are there. the freaking worst unlike any almost anything else you can have something going on in the background but you're totally right on that it's mad yeah yeah you have to be completely focused you can't yeah you can't pay attention to anything else um and that loop right
Starting point is 01:05:26 that's what leads to burnout and burnout is different than stress right stress stress is acute it happens in little chunks hopefully that you deal with in the moment burnout is ongoing when you find yourself caught in this loop, this trap that you've made yourself that's what, and dealing with that for a long period of time, that's when things start to get difficult. That's when you start to go a little bonkers. And it's part
Starting point is 01:05:53 of the reason why we stop making videos every single week. Making tutorial prop videos. I don't want to say that vloggers have it easy. I am not saying that. Forever. When you have to, when the things you work with take 16 hours to cure
Starting point is 01:06:08 or the paint you spray down didn't dry the way you thought there's so many things when you're making a tutorial video that can go south that adds a day to your production or two days to your production it could be Tuesday something goes wrong and you go well guess I'm working on the weekend
Starting point is 01:06:24 so making a maker video to the level we make every week just got to be too much for us so we pulled back on our schedule we try and get a really good video out every single month and then every week we put out small videos for our patrons and that
Starting point is 01:06:40 For us, that's how we've been able to land on a pace that works well for us. Do you feel like to get there, though, the more frequent pace and workflow earlier probably got you to do a place where then you could make that decision? In other words, you're going to spend more time cranking out more content before you can make that choice, right? Yeah. The good news is earlier when I, like 2013, when I was, we were putting. putting out three videos a week, we were just churning them out. Or we, back then it was just me. But
Starting point is 01:07:16 they were shorter. They were like, I've gone back and watched some of them recently. They're like six minutes long. Nowadays, I can't just the way we fill videos and edit them, just the stories we want to tell, they're like 45 minutes long now.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Back then I would do three, five minute videos in a week, no problem, right? You're getting the, they're not very good. You're getting a lot of practice. in the volume out there. People are excited to see new stuff from you all the time. Early on, it's a great idea. But once you've established yourself and people really expect a lot from you,
Starting point is 01:07:54 that's when you need to take a step back and be like, whoa, what's good and healthy for me? What's a good rhythm for me? Right. So here's some things to help deal with it. If you find yourself in a position where you're just in this infinite loop of content creation and starting to feel a little bit burned out, if you can, spread out the workload. Like I said, Brittany does the video editing for us.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Right. Now, there was a point where both of us were still completely tapped out even though she was editing and I was doing the other work. So it's still possible to overwork yourself. But spreading out the workload helps a ton. This one's hard, especially when you
Starting point is 01:08:32 find some success on YouTube and you find that it's working. Sometimes you may have to sacrifice your consistent upload schedule just to give yourself a little bit of a break from that grind every once in a while
Starting point is 01:08:47 and this hurts when you put it we were going through a period where we would put up a video and you get 100,000 views guaranteed and every week we put out a new video and it would get 100,000 views guaranteed
Starting point is 01:08:57 and I'm like oh well I don't want to sack the algorithms working for me I don't want to mess with that by skipping a week but at a certain point you'll have to skip a week because your body's going to give up you're just going to give up
Starting point is 01:09:10 and you're going to have to do it no matter what so giving yourself making that sacrifice a blood sacrifice to the youtube algorithm trust me is the right call every once in a while sure yeah that makes sense how do you feel about these um these uh these stupid thumbnails that everybody makes that all have white outlines around people and like bright green backgrounds and stuff what's what's I know why people do it. I, it's fine. I don't care that much. I just personally, when I make a thumbnail,
Starting point is 01:09:46 I just try to make a very high contrast, high saturation, compelling image of the thing I made. I have a fog machine too. I find adding fog helps. When people put a reaction, their face reacting and they enlarge their eyes, I understand why they do that. understand psychologically if people want to click on that.
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's just I've seen it so much that I just, I'm just like, I'll still click on it under protest. That gives me, that gives me gas, as Scott would say. I have not seen like the digitally enlarged eyes. I've definitely seen that. And any combination of those things that I just described, they actively make me not want to click on your videos. What's the opposite of like and subscribe? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Hate and ignore. You have to, you have to thumbs down it and convince someone else to unsubscribe. Yeah. Hey, fam, don't forget to hate and ignore. They should say at the end of it. Anyway. So something I thought about, this concept that YouTubers pretty much produce stuff indefinitely, TV shows don't, you know? They'll put out, you know, a dozen episodes a year.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And they're not filming 12 months out of the year. They film for a few months. then they go work on other projects. But that is not the expectation on YouTube. And it would be great if we could change that. There are no seasons on YouTube. No, I want there to, I think the next time I make a new, whatever it would be, a new podcast, a new YouTube channel or video, I think I want to release stuff in seasons. I think that's a healthier expectation for me as a creator.
Starting point is 01:11:30 You can always, like you can start that and then increase the frequency if you want. It's a lot harder to decrease the frequency after you've gotten people used to a certain time. Yeah, when you've been putting out a YouTube video every week for like seven years, try telling 500,000 people that you've decided to go to a monthly schedule. Yeah, good luck. I mean, that's doing that in podcast or anything else is a nightmare. For what's worth, I've done that like three or four times in podcasting. I went from three shows a week of Coverville down to two shows a week, and I'm doing one. show week, but I've increased the time of each show, so I'm still putting out the same
Starting point is 01:12:09 hour and a half of content every week or whatever it is. The bottom line should always do what's best for your show and stuff, but just know, you know, that that stuff can be, your audience can sometimes throw a rod if they're used to something. Adding things is way easier than taking them away from people. A couple more, just real quick things, some ways to help deal with this. Be okay with phoning in a video every once in a while. while it's fine right if you want to film a clip show basically where you just edit together the old video that's okay best moments from the past season absolutely it's totally fine
Starting point is 01:12:44 and then uh if you if you start to want to get clever film your videos in a way that's easier and quicker to edit yeah um we used to record live streams and then i would take that one video clip and then while i was live streaming i would make time notes for edit points and then i would just cut that down to a, you know, 20-minute video and put that up on YouTube. Not the best videos that I've made, but I filmed it all in like an hour or two, and I took another hour to edit it. So in three hours, I had another video done, which is crazy fast compared to the days it takes us to make a normal video.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah. And really, if you just learn to make fewer mistakes, you can cut your editing time down to nothing. And you say that, but it's true. the better you are on camera, the quicker your editing will get. Yeah, I always say TV's Travis in the chat brought this up again. I've talked to him off air about this idea, but try to get good enough at whatever your content is that you just minimize editing. Like when TMS airs, like when I put this up after the show, I don't change anything.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I add songs in and I don't go in unless there was a major goof somewhere that I marked where it was like, oh, better go. Scott left in. don't come in my mouth for Pete's saying yeah I love that in there yeah exactly I'm not taking out well you want me to go edit I mean editing come on now so unless it's the kind of show that requires that and there are plenty that do um then don't do it but when when it does you know that and also your schedule will reflect that like if you're doing a an eight episode miniseries documentary style thing well yeah that takes a bunch of editing and it's also just a different a different animal so I guess play to the strengths of whatever you're doing but always
Starting point is 01:14:26 minimize editing if you can you know and some would argue some would argue our dumb mistakes and stupid stuff i say are the best things about the show and i i tend to agree like let the stupid fly i don't care yeah yeah i what do i have to hide just my weiner anyway see there was an example of a dumb thing to say that i'll probably just leave in it'll just stay in there you right exactly yes yeah that's how it'll work what's at all people works and all well that's great any other uh tips or tricks and or links for the week I got a fun link for us. Our buddy,
Starting point is 01:14:57 Ali Spagnola, put out a really cool video. She's been doing these mashup videos where she does a recently released song in the style of someone else. I don't know. Little NASX, I don't know that artist,
Starting point is 01:15:12 but she did one of his songs in the style of gospel. And the video on our YouTube channel is an awesome how-to and how they film the whole video. And at the end of it is the music video. And it is extraordinary. ordinary like surely you've heard the song old town road right with uh no i'm gonna take my horse to the hotel room i only listen to ska from the late 90s okay fair enough yeah but anyway that the um the music video they filmed it's at the end of her YouTube video there it's it just looks so good it's produced like talk about video editing like they killed it with filming it and editing and it's
Starting point is 01:15:56 I was completely blown away by it. I think I'm going to watch me. All these robes, it looks like they're filming a polyphonic spree video. Kind of does, yeah. She's awesome. If you're not following Allie, she's talented at everything. So get her TikTok account, follow her on YouTube, get her on Twitter. She's just great.
Starting point is 01:16:14 And she's really nice. She's like his friendly, friendly personality. We just think the only thing I ever, one of my great regrets is we were never able to snag her for a nerdtacular. Maybe in the future. Oh, yeah. We tried to get her. for a power hour but we decided we couldn't our livers couldn't take the
Starting point is 01:16:29 well we'll crap I can't remember if Brian was there but we'll always have the Ritz yes yeah the Ritz I was I was that in Justin and Brian's room when they had MC Lars and
Starting point is 01:16:46 yeah yeah and Ali they had they rented a room in the Ritz at Dragon Khan for a party yes oh my God that was such a blast yeah that's so good that's pretty good I talked to Obsidian there for an hour from LR. Wow, there you go. Well, the world, all our fingers are touching.
Starting point is 01:17:04 That's right. Yes, they are. All our rings are complete. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I'm still tired. Hey, Bill, this is fantastic. Go check her out. She's Alex Spagnola over there on the YouTube's.
Starting point is 01:17:15 But you can also find Punish Props at PunishProps.com and of course on YouTube as well. And you can see some of these fantastic videos that he has spent so much time editing or I guess his wife now. So, well done, Brittany. We know that you're truly the backbone of the operation. Well done. Bill, have a fantastic week, and we'll see you next time. Bye. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Okay. Now I got the proper order going. Now we can finally bring in. Yeah. Stephen, now? It's so dumb that I had them on here. Should hang up on you just to teach you a lesson. I would.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I would do that. Stay, like, don't be hydrated, I'll say. That's right. Exactly, yes. All right, here it is. Stephen. Schleacher. This is real for this time. Hey, Stephen, thanks for coming back again after such a brief hiatus five minutes ago. Oh, is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn now. It's your turn now.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Oh, okay. Well, thanks, Scott. Hello, Brian. How are you? I'm good, Stephen. How are you? I am fine. I am doing so fine today. That's so good. I'm just going to let you guys have this segment today. Hey, hey, what is I going to tell you? I had to tell you something right up top of the thing. How about that finale, season finale of Falcon Winter Soldier? Oh, yeah. So I'm not caught up, but I don't care. Let's talk about it. I know.
Starting point is 01:18:31 I'm just behind. I thought you were like, we're going to binge it this weekend. Everybody's getting together and we're going to binge it. We were. But then Carter says, I have two more projects. I forgot. I have to have these done or I'm not going to graduate. I said, okay, well, let me know when you're ready and we never had time.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I should have done it this morning at 3.30 when I was freaking up. I should have done that. But, yeah, we're almost there. But just, you know, overall thoughts? you think it landed the stuck the landing or you know i think it did and really you know as i've mentioned multiple times as we've tried to dance around a falcon and the winter soldier without spoiling it for scott that there's a lot of what does it mean to be black in america themes that run throughout and i think the final episode where uh the falcon and quotes i guess i
Starting point is 01:19:14 have to say has a really good speech that a lot of people really get to see and it seems like it hits home really hard for a lot of things that are going on. And so I really, really enjoyed it. I know there's a lot of people out there that just were like, well, this is a really boring show. I don't like it. Maybe it's not for you. And that's fine too.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yeah, totally fine. But I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the series. And I can't wait to see what comes next because there's going to be a new Captain America movie coming out. Yes. I heard about this. How is this possible?
Starting point is 01:19:47 I have no idea how this could be possible. Without Steve Rogers, how could this be possible? If only Steve Rogers had given his shield to someone and said, I want you to be the next Captain America. And that person finally worked through his issues and said, you know what, I will be Captain America. And follow along with the comic book history of the Captain America comics. And so it looks like that that's going to happen. The person who is the head writer on Falcon and the Winter Soldier, although if you, again, if you get to see the last episode, stick around. because they changed the name of the show in the very last episode.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Oh. But Dahlon Moussaun is going to be writing the next Captain America movie. Okay. So we're moving straight production-wise, behind the scenes-wise. The creative team is moving straight to the film. That's pretty cool. That's what it looks like, yeah. And I assume, well, kind of like Wanda Vision bleeds over into the next Dr. Strange.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah. You'll have the, see, this is interesting. they're establishing this pattern now of maybe a limited series, not necessarily looking at multiple seasons. You know, like maybe they will or maybe they won't. But the point is like these are like interstitial, long form, here's eight episodes of a thing that set up nicely another film entry.
Starting point is 01:21:07 And I think this is going to be the pattern for a while. I think we're going to see that with all their stuff. And I think that's great. Yeah, I think it might be. It just kind of depends on I think each show is going to be different because I really don't see this upcoming Loki show spinning out into a new movie but maybe who knows
Starting point is 01:21:23 they could make it run for several seasons or they could just say look we're only going to do it for one season and that's it well in the case of Loki do it you know like like Wanda Vision there's not there's no WandaVision movie but there's going to be this bleed over from it to Dr. Strange in the same way
Starting point is 01:21:37 you could do that with Loki and something else and we know there's going to be another Thor movie sure being filmed now I think set up it's being filmed right now and certainly with two characters that were introduced, well, not really introduced, but revealed in the final couple of episodes, we know who the power broker is, and we know who Madam Hydra is, and so we can see more stories spinning off of that.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Did you know, I just saw some numbers here. This is crazy. According to Variety, three Captain American movies starring Chris Evans, 2011's the first Avenger. By the way, 10 years old now. Think of that. That's weird. 2014 is the Winter Soldier and 2016 Civil War
Starting point is 01:22:17 are among the best regarded films of the cinematic universe I would agree it says this together they have grossed over 2.2 billion dollars just for Captain America stuff yeah I can see that
Starting point is 01:22:30 crazy but think about it for a second 20 years ago if somebody told you this you'd laugh because you're like the best we've ever gotten is that motorcycle guy on TV and it was shit no I mean well as far as Captain America it was a big deal when the first Spider-Man movie broke
Starting point is 01:22:46 what was it $100 million in the first weekend that was a very very big deal that was a huge for movies but then again look at the cost of inflation go over to the box office mojo they will have a breakdown of movies based on adjusted for
Starting point is 01:23:02 inflation and you can see what happens there too so yeah it doesn't surprise me if you're spending you know 30 bucks per pop going to the movie theater that you can rank up that much money especially if it is a popular movie, like the First Avenger is definitely one of the best Captain American movies. Yeah, yeah. And so you can see that, yeah, it's no surprise.
Starting point is 01:23:21 People want to see this stuff. And people are willing to shell out, you know, 30 bucks to watch, you know, the premiere of Black Widow when it drops on Disney Plus, July, July. And we don't, as far as we know, there's nothing in any of these television things that have any kickoff for that. Like, that's just its own thing because it's a pre-pole. No, considering that this was supposed to come out. way before Wanda Vision was ever supposed to hit. Yeah, good point. If anything, it's the other way around.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. All right. That's still July. Is that the plan? Yeah. And again, remember, they had to bump that. So it probably was supposed to fall in May, I think, the last time. And so we would have gone from Winter Soldier to Black Widow to Loki.
Starting point is 01:24:02 So now we have a month of nothing. Yeah. Well, a Modoc. That's coming out on Hulu. Two weeks. Oh, is Hulu? I guess it is Hulu getting that. It's a little more.
Starting point is 01:24:12 adult, too, a little edgier, right? The whole Modoc thing? Oh, yeah. Which I'm fine. I'm fine with that. I want it to be. I want it to be a little weird that way. Oh, man, I keep, there's a thing about this discussion.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Did we talk about, last week we talked about Invincible, right? We did talk about that. Yeah. Okay. Do you think there's a mark, well, do you think that show will help propel a market? Maybe that along with the, with the, um, Harley Quinn show that's also pretty adult. Do you think it's possible that we can start seeing more animated but less sanitized
Starting point is 01:24:52 style comic adaptations? Do you know what I'm trying to say? Oh, sure. Yes. Do you think that'll be a trend that'll kick off from all that or am I just hopeful? Well, I think when you look at what happened with Deadpool years ago and people were like, oh, so people are interested in this, then that's really where you pull that first brick out of the wall and everything starts to crumble down.
Starting point is 01:25:11 So, yeah, I definitely think you're going to see some more, either DC Black label stuff, or you're going to see more Vertigo stuff, or even what was the Marvel, their hardcore stuff that they did. Oh, yeah. Do you remember that one, Brian, that series where they were just like, yeah, we're a little bit harder. And the Punisher one had like a lot of nudity in the first issue. What do they call that? It's like their black. It's like DC Black. Yeah, it's kind of like Air Black.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Maybe that's what it was. But, yeah, I can see a lot. I can see a lot more of that stuff coming this way. Now, I'm not sure that Disney. Yeah, that's a Marvel Max. I'm not sure that Disney will double down on that. I mean, we're still trying to figure out what they're going to do with Deadpool 3. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:53 But, yeah, I'm, I think that it will happen. And certainly we will see what happens with Modoc. And we know that if there is going to be a more adult-oriented Marvel stuff, it will be over on Hulu. Right. Before it'll be on Disney Plus. indeed well i'm i'm in i'm into all that uh this max series i don't think i can get any of those on or marvel nights is the other one to look up oh night's yeah and that's got all of your each of the defenders as well as uh shing chi i think is part of that yeah is any of this stuff on their
Starting point is 01:26:25 unlimited their unlimited app do you know i don't know this it might be this is stuff from like 20 years ago okay 20 plus years ago i don't know why i'm like my some of my favorite stuff on dc now is the max and vertigo stuff i just love it some of the wild not wild star what i'm trying to say wild storm wild storm that stuff's great i say wild star because i'm watching a lot of starblazers and i can't get that guy out of my head anyway uh also some interesting auctions going on in the world oh man yeah uh i don't know if it was i guess it was april 15th uh back in april 18th batman number uh what is it number one right now this is not the first appearance of batman but this is the first
Starting point is 01:27:08 in-off comics, just like action comics, had Superman, and then Superman came out a year or two later. Batman number one, an 8.0 edition, went for over a million dollars a couple of weeks ago. And that is the highest that a single issue of Batman has ever sold for. Yeah. That was the big, if I remember when we talked about it, that was like the big record breaker. Yeah. Now, there was another one. It was a 0.1. Again, this is a restored 0.1 graded comic. So this is like almost crappy on top of crappy. It's still sold for $13,000 over the weekend. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:27:45 This past weekend. I'd take it. Amazing fantasy, you know, the first appearance of Spider-Man. It's a 1.0 version, $15,600. And the Amazing Spider-Man, number one, a very good 4.0 copy sold for $14,000. So if you've got old comics, oh yeah, Master of Kung Fu actually raked in over $14,000 this weekend. as well, probably being prompted a little bit by the upcoming movie, but it was a 9.8 graded comic. The death of Superman issues, you know, that everybody bought back in the 90s, surprisingly, $95 is what it went for.
Starting point is 01:28:24 That's amazing because it seemed like everybody bought it thinking it was going to be a huge deal. And usually when they have those, there's so much supply in the market that there's really no demand. Well, and that's really the problem when it comes to collecting and selling comic books. And for people that are out there, I mean, if you have stuff right now, if you have stuff that is pre-80s, if you have stuff from Bronze Age, which would be, you know, mid-60s through the 70s, that stuff will sell really, really well. Silver Age and Golden Age comics, those are where you're really going to have your big money. But here's the thing. There are still a lot of comics that don't sell a whole lot of copies. Stuff today, you know, 100,000 copies is great.
Starting point is 01:29:07 3,000 copies is starting to be on the low side, but a lot of your mid-range comics, your Robbins, your Iron Man's, those kinds of things, they will sell sometimes between 3,000 and 20,000 copies. So there will be a limited supply of those. If you want to try to make a quick buck, and again, 90s comics and forward, you're really not going to make money off of that collection. Sorry, everybody, if you've got a whole room like I do of 60,000 comics just taking up space, it's about 60,000 comics. worth of space that is now being taken up. That's what it's worth. But here's the thing. Be watching when, you know, Shang-Chi is about to come out or look for when a white vision appears and then go over to eBay and you will see these things skyrocketed in price for a, you know, a week or so as people are like, here's the white, here's the first appearance of White Vision and we're selling it for $250. Someone's going to buy it. So that might be a good way to lighten your load on some of your more modern comics. That is interesting. I hadn't thought about that, but you get like, you know, a movie or a TV show or whatever,
Starting point is 01:30:10 that kind of exposure suddenly changes values. Yeah, I haven't gone over to eBay to look and see what recent editions of Shang-Chi, but I'm going to bet that there was a lot of Shang-Chi comics that went up on eBay the day that that trailer dropped. Yeah, I can tell you another, some Mortal Kombat comics as well as just seeing it, like Steam, suddenly Mortal Kombat 11, not even on sale, was like fourth in sales that day. like just just a new movie coming out is enough to inspire people to go oh i never checked out that last game and they just go buy it and whatever selling all my modoc crap next month that's right brian i know some people are like oh but stephen there are comics and from the 80s itself or a lot yes like uh the first
Starting point is 01:30:51 appearance of the raphael uh teenage mutant ninja turtle number one it sold for five thousand The first Masters of the Universe from Marvel that came out in 1986 sold for $5,000. So you can do some of that. But, you know, with the Masters of the Universe series from Kevin Smith hit Netflix in the next year, now might be a time to start digging through some of your old comics from the 80s and seeing if they're number one in good condition because that Masters of the Universe was a 9.9 graded comic, which is, you know, next to near, next to Mint. And that Raphael TMNT comic was a 9.8.
Starting point is 01:31:24 But, yeah, you might be able to get a couple hundred bucks. Yeah, never out of the back. Probably not. Yeah. And things that if you're buying from sites like Heritage Auction and you're seeing the comic, the CGC graded, those are slabbed in plastic. So if you want to open it up and read it, you can, but it will have to be reevaluated and will probably not have the same rating as before you opened up that piece of plastic. Interesting. And do you think there's, I don't know, this might be too big of it.
Starting point is 01:31:54 discussion for here but this whole NFT thing seems like it's ripe for all right well you don't own the original Superman number one action comics number one but you could own the non fungible token version of that same issue scanned and you know here it is all in its digital glory you can be the owner of that for just 8.5 Ethereum which is like two million dollars or whatever I don't think anybody's going to pay that much but well that's the question it's some ridiculous things are happening within that space and it's all kind of grifty and weird right now like really weird I suspect it will calm down and well I don't know actually I don't know what it's going to do but it does seem like there's some opportunity there for except it won't be for collectors who
Starting point is 01:32:40 already own the thing it'll be for people who can have the rights to do it and so that's muddy and weird I don't know I don't know I think it really has to revolve around something that is digital only because the minute that you have physical copies of something available, then that NFT is going to lose a lot of its value. So one of the big things, and DC actually sent out an email to all of its artists saying, hey, we know that you want to jump on
Starting point is 01:33:02 this NFT thing right now with the digital versions of your pages that are in the comics, but please hold off on that until we come up with a process that put in place. So there's a lot of people that work on Wackams like or Waycoms like you do, Scott. Sure. And they don't
Starting point is 01:33:18 comic pages today, very rarely see actual physical paper and so very rare a lot of those people are looking for ways that they can make some more money off of their original art through the form of NFT so you know it's still very up in the air and controversial for a lot of people so some of them want to jump in on that yeah some of them are doing that very thing um and some of them are adamantly against it like super pissed when they even bring it up like it's a really polarizing thing right now in the art circles and it's fun to it's kind of fun to watch because I'm not dipping my toe in either but watching it is kind of entertaining
Starting point is 01:33:52 but it's grifty some grifty yeah Kevin Smith announced a bunch of NFTs he's selling a film that is going to go just as an NFT yeah and the thing is when you buy the film you own it but
Starting point is 01:34:08 the the idea is that you are also going to be responsible for distributing it you're going to be the distributor the whole deal weird yeah okay well in that case you could just work I love it yeah but in that case you could just hold on to it and not let it go. Well, the expectation is that he wants you to release it, to get it out there.
Starting point is 01:34:26 But you will own that original version of the film. Well, good freaking luck, because send us somebody copies it. It's not going to matter anyway. So dumb. All right. This is all stuff that you hear all the time from major spoilers.com and Stephen's own mouth. And the mouthpieces of various people on his network.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Stephen, anything going on over there you'd like to mention this week? I think if people are looking for some suggestions for comics, we have a brand new edition of So You Want to Read Comics, and it's all about comics that take you to different places and different worlds. It's the Travelog Edition. You can find that over at major spoilers.com. And until next time, Scott, I want you to stay hydrated. Oh, I still get to be hydrated.
Starting point is 01:35:08 All right, thanks, man. So what if he was going to hang up in the middle of saying it, just to be funny. Hey, later I'll call him back accidentally for some other reason and then hang up on him. yeah exactly it'll all work out uh you guys know it's monday that means it's time for a monday morning mashup and uh these are always a good time this one makes me a little nervous with the title the title is rated m for mature so who knows they're always a little mature because that's what davy does not especially when you pull this stuff out of context exactly so we're going to try that today and see what we think here it is hi i have all the jeans i'm wearing a canning
Starting point is 01:35:48 Canadian tuxedo. Hi, my name is Deanna Denham. She really looks like she's dressed to change my oil. Thanks for coming to grease, monkey. My name's Lee. Can I wrangle you into a spot? Keep your actual vaccine card untainted. Untainted. You heard Brian Wright. Put it under your taint. Yeah, under your taint.
Starting point is 01:36:14 That's where I keep mine. That's safe place. It's there right now. Taint free. Taint free. Gene Woonzy. It's easier than ever to use iPhone together.
Starting point is 01:36:21 My name's Gene Wensie. Brand new trailer for the new season of sex lights and monkey bars. What is it? I have these same jeans in eight other colors. Anybody know whether there's a TGI Friday's nearby? You know, you'd wear that to TGI Friday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 And just marvel at all the shit on the wall. That metal stuff is totally milking my boobs. It's going good. Who's she going to scream Philip at now? Nobody? Philip. Philip. Philip.
Starting point is 01:36:46 I'm going to laugh at you, Philip. I'm going to laugh at you, Philip. Dude, there's not a fine-my clitoris option. No. Who's the guy that eats pig anuses? Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan does. He probably get in trouble.
Starting point is 01:37:02 He just made other people eat pig anus. Oh, that's true. He never ate a pig anus. I can't believe you're doing it. That's the grossest thing I've ever seen. Yeah. It's plants. Kim and Carter are doing plant stuff in the house now.
Starting point is 01:37:14 And there's little bugs. Little flybugs. Some boot flies and stuff like that. Yeah. Don't come in my mouth. Sorry, don't land in my mouth while I'm sleeping. Wow. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:37:25 I almost sprayed beer all over my keyboard, my screen. That absolutely came out wrong. I apologize. Thank God this is on video because if somebody is able to capture the nearest that tank. Gosh, dang it. That's going to haunt me. Jamie's going to haunt me. Jamie's like a ghost.
Starting point is 01:37:44 It's going to be bad. Anyway. geez i'm i'm shocked it took him so long to track that one down from last friday and uh get that right in their face so yeah amazing how quickly that made it into uh into the show it's a real shocker a reminder uh oh boy we're coming down to it eight days left on the rock runners campaign we just hit another major milestone and that means we're unlocking well if we get there. I guess we got one more to go. If we unlock the final one, you're
Starting point is 01:38:19 getting character cards. And this is a big deal. Because character cards means think D&D racial stats. Think that. Oh, wow. That'll give you a bonus to some effects of things in the game. Oh, that's cool. So it's something
Starting point is 01:38:35 I've been holding on to is the last. It's also one of those things that's sort of, if you want to to just have a quick game without these extra mechanics, you totally can. This just adds like another layer of interesting tweaks to the game and I think people are going to like it so you want to be an engineer
Starting point is 01:38:51 you want to be a space envoy yes you want to be a pirate how about a space pirate you want to be that I don't want to be a pirate it's going to be rad so imagine character cards and little stands for them and everything so the card will like sit up and like look at you while you're holding it and it'll say what its stats are
Starting point is 01:39:09 it's going to be cool so check it out over at Rock Runners Incorporated you can find it on Kickstarter and it's final waning eight days at Kickstarter.com. Just search for rock runners, and you'll find all about the game there. Okay. I think that's it. Do you have anything else going on?
Starting point is 01:39:27 Do you want to mention? You've released these shows? Just prepping for the MS-150. You're going to go out on another ride today. Oh, I'm going to try and stream it. I'm going to see if I can do it. Oh, this is a tester. This is good. This is good. Because then you'll know if it's going to work for the actual event or whatever. That's a good idea. Exactly. I want to watch that. So, but if you do want to support my MS-150 ride, just go to tiny.cc slash coverville bike 2021.
Starting point is 01:39:51 That's coverville bike 2021. And you can help support me doing the ride and making my way up the ladder. I know you're about to say. I was. I can't help it. It's just that song. I can't help it. I know.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Let me see where I am among the team. There was a. Making my way down. Here we go I was third from the top in donations last week. Where am I now? Oh, I can't see the list anymore. Oh, where is it?
Starting point is 01:40:24 Shoot. All right. Well, I'll figure it out, but let's see. Yeah, there's not an easy way for me to find. Oh, here we go, Team page. Well, there was an easy way for me to find it. Turns out. Turns out.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Yeah. Roster. Here we go. I am currently at 820. There are... 820? 820. 820.
Starting point is 01:40:53 There are 5 people, 6 people above me. So let's crush Denise Kaplan, who's right above me with 845. Just a couple donations and we'll surpass Denise Kaplan. Did you know that the number 820 is considered the angel number? Let me tell you about it. it says it's the angel number 820 believe in your abilities uh has spiritual meaning uh you will not get anything if you're if you are low on faith even when things are not working in your favor faith will keep what does it have to do with 820 you know just like august 20th or something i don't know why this is even a thing what do you do yesterday was the perfect date by the way oh april 25th oh yeah yeah it's not too hot it's not too cold and all you need is a light jacket there you go. Mailed it. What do you see when you keep seeing 820 everywhere it says? Yeah, this is a dumb webpage and they're scaring me. I'm getting out of there. Looks like a cult. Okay, moving on to this.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Patreon.com slash TMS is how this show gets its gas. This is how we run. We don't run without it. And without you guys and your support, it doesn't exist. So please head over there and keep propping it up with your fine monthly donations at patreon.com slash TMS. And if you're looking for anything else that we've mentioned today, it's all at frogpants.com slash t-m-s. Oh, I heard a few people are having trouble with the archive, well, one person, I don't know if it's many, but at least one person is having trouble with the archive feed that goes all the way back to episode one. I think it may be because it's so huge that some players don't know what to do with it. They're not used to having thousands of episodes. Yeah, that is the thing. That's why Coverville is only like the last 12
Starting point is 01:42:39 episodes or something because that XML file there is a size limit that can break some pod receivers that must be it because like it works fine in pocketcast but overcast is crashing for this person yeah so it's kind of weird or not crashing just not showing anything like it just ignores the feed right anyway if you're having that problem actually email me because I'm I need to just sort of figure out what the high limit is and then try to work around it and then that may mean we split up into three feeds and then four feeds or something like that so I don't Claire Gacker using the old, she says it works for her, but are using the old arcade or arcade, the old archive feed or the current feed. Because the archive feed's the one that's busting it.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Anyway, I'll work on it, figure it out. And thanks for letting me know anybody who ever lets me know about things like that. Okay, that's it. Brian, we should probably go away. But with a song. Well, okay. Crystal wrote in and said today, April 26th is my birthday. and on the 23rd, my husband, Jeff and I will have celebrated our 10th anniversary.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I'd love to celebrate both with an upbeat song that rocks. I don't have a specific song or band in mind, but my husband and I are big Disney fans, and I've enjoyed the metal and rock Disney song covers you've played before. Something along those lines would be great, but if you don't have a Disney cover, any classic rock or symphonic metal song will do, thanks, signed Crystal. Oh, Crystal, of course, I can play another one of these awesome metal Disney songs. This comes from an album called Metal Disney put together by the D-Metal Stars. And I've played things like A Whole New World and Under the Sea before.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Let's do a medley. This is the Disney medley. So you know stuff like Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo and the Winnie the Pooh song and one of the Seven Dwarves songs, not whistle while you work, but dig, dig, dig, whatever it is. Anyway, here's the Disney metal, D-Metal All-Stars with the Disney medley cover from 2016. Oh, that's awesome. Crystal, this is also for you. I just wanted to find a sound clip that said the name Crystal in it. Let's see what this one is.
Starting point is 01:44:42 A little surprise clip for you in here. Crystal Pepsi really is different from all other soft drinks. Okay. That's what you get. That's true. That's what you get, Crystal. You guys are awesome with your donations. You just moved me into what they call Club K because I've crossed the $1,000 mark.
Starting point is 01:44:57 and um what's the exact amount uh one thousand five dollars zero five meaning let's just see real quick what does it mean if you see the number one thousand five oh i found it uh your thoughts ought to be constructive and subjective in the same this doesn't mean anything this is all horses all right thank you to uh Shane and uh green bay spidey and uh Ryan no uh Who's it? Tea Glass. You guys were awesome. Thank you for your donations. Sounds like a rapper. It's great. T Glass. Pushing me past. Who did I say? Denise. Richards. Richards. Denise something. Yeah. Did he push me right past Denise Richards. Yes. Thank goodness. Straight to Charlie Shane and you're there. All right. Here's that song. T-meddles Stars Disney Medley. Here it is. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll see you then.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Sala-Kat-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-Lah, B-Bibbidi-Bi-B-D-B-D-D-Baddy-Boo. Sound like a-K-K-K-K-K-K-Lah, B-Bibbidi-Bri-D-B-D-Baddy-Boo. Little to magic for little or not Bibbidi-Bobri-Boo Now, Sala-Lamina-Minn, I mean, A-Mexicaboola-Boo, but the thing in my father that does the job is Bimidi-Bi-Bi-Bu Sala-Kat-Bi-Bi-Bi-Bi-Badding, boo. Putting together and what if you got, Bibibibibibibri-Baddy-Baddy-Baddy-Baddy-Baddy-Baddy-Bon-Boo.
Starting point is 01:46:40 We dig-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dd-d-d-d-d-dddd-dd-d-ddddddd is what we like to do. It ain't no trick-d-d-d-d-dddddddddd-lchch. In a mine, hit a mind, we're a million diamonds shine We dig-d-d-d-d-dick-d-d-d from early mortal night We dig-d-d-d-dick-d-d-d-dick-d-d-dick-up everything inside We dig up dynast by the score A thousand rubies sometimes more In-Mine, get a mine, in a mine, in a mind, in a mind, in a mind,
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Starting point is 01:47:41 It's up the one would go I hope hi ho hi ho Supercalabragilistic, expecialogous even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious If you say you loud enough, you'll always suffer cautious
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Starting point is 01:48:54 Of Christopher's child days A donkey may be or is his friend King R in Liverpool This is where I did Feptigley Hemp is how But most of all
Starting point is 01:49:10 Whittie the Pooh Whittie the Pooh Wivoo, Wittie the Pooh chugging little car stuff with the he's Wee the Pooh, Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 01:49:23 Really there to share me Oh, man Sipiti, beauty, Sipti, A, My, oh, my, oh, my, what a wonderful day Many of sunshine, head in my way Sipid Duda, Sipi A It's the blue blood on our shoulder It's the truth, it's actual
Starting point is 01:49:50 Everything is satisfactory This me, cute, I should be a Wonderful feeling Wonderful day Shipmeatia Ship me a Shipi good I should be A
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