The Morning Stream - TMS 2106: Trinidad & Winnebago

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

PIXAR's Untouchables. I Can Choose Between AC AND DC? Crikey! How do Leap Years Work? Come out to Salt Lake City, Have a few laughs. Mother Brothel and her Disney Princesses. Laden with Ladies. All ou...t of Plexes. Dreams of Anon McCain. If Your Gidgit Lasts 4 Hours of Longer, Get Stuffed! Firestarter 2: Cinderella. Murdering A Six-Pack Of Wicked Slice. Yakitori Amos. Too Many John McCains. Rats are the future. Therapy Thursday and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, Pixar's Untouchables. I can choose between AC and DC? Cricy! How do leap years work? Come out to Salt Lake City, we'll have a few laughs. Mother Brothel and her Disney princesses. Layden with ladies. All out of plexes.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Dreams of McCainon. If your gadget lasts more than four hours, get stuffed. Fire starter 2. Cinderella. Murdering a six-pack of wicked slice. Yachtatori Amos. Too many John McCain. Rats of the Future. Therapy Thursday and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Tuna sandwich that you can eat. It is very good, and there's also a slice of cheese in here. Green and cool. M.S. The morning stream. The morning stream. I'm the captain now. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Thursday, April 29th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. He's Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Brian Nibbett. Hello, Scott Johnson. So this is not the last day of the month, is it? Tomorrow is, right?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Tomorrow is the last day of the month. We got 30. Are there any months of 29? Only every once in a while do we have a month that ends with 29 days. Only once in a while, Scott. It's pretty rare, right? We get the 28. Every four years. We have a month that ends in 29 days. Well, isn't that a 20, that's a 28 every four years, right? Do I have this wrong? Why is 28 in my head, or 29 in my head? Hold on. Months.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Hold on, hold on. Let's Google this because I don't know what I'm talking about. No, I believe you. 29 days. Why? Every four years, February has 29 days. The rest of the time, it has 28 days. All right, this is where my brain is seriously broken in half because I, if you would have said to me,
Starting point is 00:02:00 to my head and said, Scott, how many days every four years does that weird thing happen? And I would say, oh, it's 28 days on those months. Gotcha. Yeah. Right. When did it? So you think that were you, did you have it flipped or did you think that it was normally 27 days and we got the 28th day every four years? No, I thought it was just every four years. It was short to 28. Gotcha. So every other, the rest of the time, it was 29. Yeah. I think we're 30. Whoa. Whoa. I don't know what I did. shot delay that's right I don't know what happened there um hey did you see that
Starting point is 00:02:36 trailer real quick this morning for the uh for sweet tooth and no it's not about the it's not about the ice cream truck and uh and that oh in that PlayStation game a twisted metal twisted metal no unfortunately it really was the first
Starting point is 00:02:51 my first thought of like oh my god that's such a great idea for a movie is give me some backstory on that dude from twisted metal well in 2000 I really want backstory on the dude who was like just a guy. Oh, yeah, and the tires. The tires. He had a name.
Starting point is 00:03:08 He had a name. I used to be so into that game, dude. I used to freaking love those games. It was a great game. It was a great. The PlayStation 2, so you twisted metal black was the height of the series for me. Yeah, it was. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So this is a sweet tooth that's not about that. No, this is a comic written in 2009. Written by. what's his name? Jeff Lemire and written and drawn by him. He did the art and the writing. And it was a vertigo thing for DC at the time and just beloved. Everybody loved this thing. It was this like weird post-apocalyptic mix of concepts. Maybe a little bit of saga in there if you want to compare something to a more modern thing. Anyway, I didn't know this is coming. Netflix is doing it. And what weirded me out is that it's Netflix and not HBO Max given HBO Max as an ownership. of D.C. and Vertigo and all things, you know, Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So I don't know how that deal happened, but it happened. And it looks great. It's a whole series. Will Forte is in it somehow? Oh, really? Oh, interesting. All right. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm in. I'll check it out. Check out that trailer. I think he's the bad guy? I'm not sure. Actually, yeah, I think he is. The guy with a beard. Anyway, watch that trailer after the show, Brian.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We'll do. faux show. Pretty sure I heard John Goodman narrate it, But I could be wrong because it also says that, uh, uh, oh, I can't think he was name. James Brolin's in it, old man James Brolin's in it. Oh, really? Okay. And that might have been his voice, so I don't know what I'm listening to, but, uh, it looked cool. Cable Thanos. Cable Thanos.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Do you say James or Josh Brolin? James, but it's okay. James, okay. It's totally fine. So, Dad of Thanos. Yeah, dad Thanos. Father Thanos. Yeah. Speaking of John Goodman, so I've been reading that autobiography by Kevin Smith called Tough Shit.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Oh, yeah. How is that? With a thing to, you know, make it not sweary, an asterisk instead of the eye. It's good. And he's talking about Red State, which was a movie he did in 2011, that I kind of remember the name of, but I never saw it. And when I tried to look it up this morning to see if it was streaming anywhere, it is not even. even rentable anywhere. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Did that? Like, it is, and, and, yeah, and Dice Tomato, Red State is fantastic. Quentin Tarantino swears by it, says it's, it's one of the greatest movies. He loves it. I'll just say that. But it was, it was like this Westboro, it was his, according to the book, it was like his response to the Westboro Baptist Church. Right. And, um, kidnapped a couple, a bunch of kids who, uh, under the premise of sex, lock them in cages and then the, uh, churches under siege by John Goodman and a bunch of other, uh, FBI agents.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah, I never, I remember when this streamed and I remember thinking, I should see this and then didn't. And then. Yeah, because it was on Netflix for quite a while. It was. And then, and then the term red state took on like a lot hotter meaning in the last four years. And I have a feeling maybe that's why you're not seeing it anywhere. Maybe they were just like, ooh, take it off the shelf, red staper. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But, I mean, everybody in the chat room is kind of raving about it too, which is. So I might have to, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:36 How do we find that? Figure out some sort of complex way. Oh, yeah, a more complex way. I'm looking to see if there's a complex way of watching this. Yeah. I mean, it's a perplexing issue when you're trying to find. Yeah. No, I'm trying to figure out a way to work the word into a no.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm perplexed. No, you already used that one. Yeah, I got that one. I might have to look for the latest multiplex because I can't find another complex way to watch this. I think we're all out of plexes. Oh, somebody says we just should use plex. Oh, oh. okay oh okay oh my america that's a great idea we'll just use plex i'm looking and um nobody that
Starting point is 00:07:25 nobody that shares a server with me looks like they have it see nobody what is that that's weird right yeah i know right it's like now now that i'm being told i can't watch this movie i want to watch it even more right it's like your parents said you can't see robocop and now you gotta see roboc right i know it's like i don't forget drop everything thing. I want to see this now. Yeah. You're real, what are you talking about? Scott is either having an off day or an extra Scott day.
Starting point is 00:07:54 What does that mean? I don't know what that means. Just because he got February wrong? He hasn't got anything wrong. No. Unless he didn't understand our Plex joke. That's possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That was a very subtle. I thought we dialed that in pretty heavily. Yeah, we really, really. Yeah, I mean, you Google it, even if you look for it on Amazon, it says Prime Video. This video is currently unavailable. How about DVD? How about Blu-ray?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, can you just buy it, I wonder? Geez, for 56 bucks. This thing is... Weird, it's contraband, dude. It's contraband, man. Yeah, yeah. Wow, I'm not going to pay... All right, so I'm not going to pay...
Starting point is 00:08:35 By the way, it even says playback region B-slash-2. This will not play on most Blu-ray players sold in North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, basically anywhere. What does it play on, then? I don't know. It's something It's something Kevin Smith has in his basement
Starting point is 00:08:52 That's it That's right DVD Bluray players Manufactured in Tobago Tobago, Trenidad and Tobago Blue Ray players are the only ones That'll play this
Starting point is 00:09:02 Fantastic I'm going to Tobago I'm going to Tobago Tobago Come on Let's call the whole thing Come on All right
Starting point is 00:09:10 Well there you have it I had a dream Oh yeah If you find it You let me know And then I will Because now I feel
Starting point is 00:09:18 weirdly compelled to make sure to see it. It feels wrong that we haven't had access to this until until never. For some reason, I thought it was a dream. Tell me about your dream. I thought it was a Netflix original, first of all, by the way. Oh, yeah, no. No, he, there was this big
Starting point is 00:09:34 controversy about it. He even talks about it where he's just disillusioned with the whole movie industry and he's like, I'm going to do this myself. I'm going to promote this thing and be the distrauded. We can see how well that's working for him right now. So at Sundance, when he premiered the film, he teased,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm going to pick a distributor right there in the room. And it made everybody think, oh, my God, he's going to actually auction his movie off right there at Sundance. Oh, my God, this is crazy. But he was careful about wording. And he says, I'm going to pick a distributor right there in the room. And then he's up on stage and he's talking about his disillusionment with the movie industry and says uh so uh let's see sell me the some of the distribution
Starting point is 00:10:22 rights for 20 bucks and his producer right next to him says okay here you go and 20 20 bucks he says I'm going to distribute it myself and and apparently people went were out of their minds pissed off at him for for doing that uh yeah for being misleading this is an interesting book I may have to read it it's actually it's really cool and he's um he's very it's like watching clerks I mean, it's, he writes like he talks. Yeah. I was worried it was going to be just too much of him, like, talking about podcasting or something. And that annoyed me just thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But apparently it's not that. This is mostly about his movie stuff and his career and all that. It is. And it's, um, yeah, it's like his background. He hasn't gotten into podcasting yet, but I'm sure that's coming. But, um, yeah, it's, uh, because if he pretends in there that he invented it, I'm going to be ticked. If he's like, oh, we definitely. We started it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 doesn't seem like he's the type. The only thing that he's really claimed to inventing, and I really call it inventing, inventing is that he says, I'm one of the few directors who you can reach out to, and at least at the time of writing this book, that you can reach out to on social media, and you might, you might, you'll probably hear something back from me. Oh. Like, you know, try doing that with, and Peter Jackson was like this apparently at the beginning to. And he says, yeah, Peter Jackson and I were, we kind of had this thing nailed where we'd respond to our fans and get back to him and stuff in social media. But now he's too busy making Oscar winning movies. Yeah. Can't do that anymore. It's no time. By the way,
Starting point is 00:11:59 quick update. Shutter has Red State. You can play. Is it for sure? Because I saw that. It didn't come up in Just Watch when I searched for it. I noticed that as well. So that makes me mad at Just Watch because they don't have it listed. And they do normally have Shutter stuff. But there's the link I put in the chat room. Okay. I'm clicking it. And because I think I've got, no, I don't have Shudder anymore. I had it when we were using it for, God, what was it, October, the Halloween sack? It's October. Yeah, because we wanted to watch some, something, what was that?
Starting point is 00:12:30 I don't remember. I ended up doing a free trial while back for that Nicholas Cage weirdness. Yeah, for Mandy. Mandy, yeah, which is still, man, that thing still haunts me. But anyway, yeah, it looks like, yeah, the exclusive, the exclusive, access is over there at shutter.com. Okay. I might go back to shutter. It looks like I
Starting point is 00:12:50 canceled my subscription. Oh, it was two so octobers ago. I canceled it November of 2019. Oh, Lord. All right. Well, you could do. For the month, I went through Creep Show and. Yeah, I think Creep Show is the reason I did it too, I think. Yeah, that was when I did it. But the, uh, uh, you could do
Starting point is 00:13:06 another trial on a different email. I can get away with that, probably if you wanted to. Yeah. Oh, there you go. That's a good idea. Yeah. That's better than a deplex. option. Yeah, there's the place option. All right, anyway, good. So shut out. Yeah, let me know what you think. And if you give me the thumbs up, I'm all in, I want to see this. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I had a dream last night that I cannot get out of my head. This was so vivid that it's as real as if I was living it. And I don't get it. It's a long complex dream. I won't get into the details, but there was a big contest and involved guns, but only the contest part. And for some reason, nobody would die if we use
Starting point is 00:13:40 the guns, but me and a whole bunch of friends were involved. none of weirdly none of my real life podcasting friends or real life family or acquaintances none of them were in this dream usually somebody is in this but nobody's in there extras you had a bunch of extras all extras you weren't it wasn't your severed head on a chair any of that it was just okay good it's just me and all these people i don't know and it was some big event and um as usual my dreams lately have a sequence in them where there's a giant long distance to to go and usually it's like a complex building where I've got to find a special place and I'm running out of time and there's a deadline and I don't know where to go and every door seems to go in 20 different directions and
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't know what that's about. There's something going on there about me not being able to find my way. It's weird. I don't like it. But this had this and then when I finally got to the thing I wasn't supposed to be led into the banquet part of this thing with a gun, but I had a gun. It was a semi-automatic, some kind of rifle thing. And what's weird about it, it's so specific. I get into this thing and a helicopter burst through the side. I'm way contracting this, making this dream easier to, you know, that could go on forever. But a helicopter busts through the mezzanine part of this big banquet hall.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And in there is a terrorist guy going, he's got his own guns and he's about to take over the whole place. And I realize, oh, I have a gun. I can stop this. So I pull out the semi-automatic weapon, get down on one knee, aim up, and then I remember in the dream, being actually surprised that it wasn't fully automatic. When I held down the trigger, it just went, and I had to do it again again. And I remember it annoying me, almost like a game of like Call of Duty when I got a new gun and I don't know how to do you get. Right, right. So I was like, and then I finally got a hang of it and then hit him twice in the chest.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He didn't seem to stop him very well. He stumbled out of the helicopter, still kind of on his own volition, hit him one more time in the chest. He falls down, then struggles and starts aiming the gun. For some reason, right at a kid. There was a kid there. So he's aiming at this kid, and I went right in his face, and that was it. He was dead.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Now, what's weird about this is when it was over, everybody there was like, yeah, you got the terrorist. Woo, well done. And then I had to sit at a table that was full of, of John McCain people. And by that, I just mean people that both looked like John McCain and really adamantly supported his run for the presidency in 08. Like, hardcore McCain fans.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Oh, my God. Was Sarah Palin there? No, none of that. Just these people that looked like men and women who all looked like ruddy versions of John McCain's face, but with different bodies. Okay. And they were all at this table going, well done, well done. But you know what this means?
Starting point is 00:16:32 You know what this means? And I said, what does this mean? well, this means that his family, the terrorist family, is going to come get revenge and they're going to take you out. And it, like, hit me and I went, they're right. This isn't like the movies where you're done. There's more revenge to be had. Oh, no. And then I woke up.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Wow. Yeah. Can you explain this? Can't explain that. I can't explain this at all. It's funny, TV Zigan says, why am I picturing the scene from True Lies with Jamie Lee Curtis dropping to Uzi down the stairs? I'm picturing Bing John Malkovich with a bunch of McAins. Like, McCain, McCain, McCain, McCain.
Starting point is 00:17:11 With wings and a baby McCain, McCain. I remember the lady McCain who was like head of the table, kind of matriarchy kind of lady in the dream. For some reason, she was really mad at me at first because she didn't believe me or there was something going on with her. Oh, you didn't shoot that terrorist with your little br-pr-per-gun. And we were still eating. We were still eating as if this banquet would continue after this. It was just so weird and so vivid. So crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I'm envious of your ability to recall dreams. I very rarely. I know I dream, but I don't remember what my dreams are. I feel like there was a time where I was like you where I just didn't remember them at all. And lately they're just so vivid. And I don't know what's changed. I don't eat anything weird.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I don't eat late at night. Did you pound down on the tire bag of deep fried squid snacks? I did eat those earlier in the day. Could they have, you know, could that have transferred tonight? I don't know. I don't know. It's very odd. So I guess what I'm saying to people is I don't regret shooting the terrorists,
Starting point is 00:18:20 even though I now have a target on my back for doing it. I guess that's my takeaway. I'm glad you do. You know what? It's the right thing you did. Right. I mean, what else you're going to do? Wimp out, not use your gun.
Starting point is 00:18:31 nobody else had a gun in that room but me. So I felt like I had to step up and use my gun. Exercise my Second Amendment rights. Right, yes. Exactly. By the way, Claire Gack is yelling at me in the chat room. Coverville, Dream Journal, when you wake up instead of watch something on the iPad. Oh, Dream Journal.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Oh, write down your dream, she's saying. Yeah, like write down my dream. It doesn't matter. I'm reading the Kevin Smith book with my dark room with a light that looks like It's from a dark room. Fantastic. That's what you should do. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Now this. Trivial things. Hey, everybody. Welcome Gidget von Leroux to the program. She's here all the way from down under. That country known as Australia. The Queens prison colony is what we like to call it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Welcome back from being off the grid. How you doing? Yeah, how you doing? Thank you very much. Hi, guys. How are you? Where did you go? What was your off the grid?
Starting point is 00:19:23 I missed this. She can't tell us because then that we'll put her on the grid. Oh, oh, no, no. No, no, I can tell you. I went down about two hours from where I live to help my, my mom move. She sold her house. She was moving.
Starting point is 00:19:36 She doesn't handle stress very well. So I went down to help her out for two weeks. And I got a 65 inch, I forget the name of it, TV. Oh, cool. So she didn't notice. Yeah, I just stole it. Sticking that in the back of your car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. She wasn't easy. No, no, no. She bought it for me. It was all good. Oh, that's nice. So now you can. I can't believe you guys are still talking about dreams.
Starting point is 00:20:00 and you're still trying to analyze these. I explained it to you very... I did like Clark Gack said being John McLean. Did you call her Clark Gack or Claire? Did you call it her Clark Gack? Claire. Claire, it's Claire. There's no Clark.
Starting point is 00:20:18 They're called... I know who I'm talking about. I know what you mean. But wait a minute. You told me last time something and I don't remember. Oklahoma would call her, Claire. Yeah, that's right. I did her once.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Once. But what did you... Oh. Okay. Now, last time, you had nothing to do with her. We're starting to get into the little confession to her. Oh, this is like that Q documentary that I watched. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Exactly. Except nobody's saying, well, all right, I was Q once. Yeah. No one says that. Yeah. I robbed that bank once. Yeah. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:56 What did you tell me last time? What was your big movie? was your thing about my dreams that was supposed to solve it? I don't remember. The thing when you, because when we're awake, we're controlling our thoughts, right? Yeah. Sometimes something sneaks up on us like something that we did stupid and you're like, oh, I don't want to remember that.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So your brain blocks it out. When you're asleep, your brain's just going rampant. It's just, and I'll tell you a little fact that I found out not too long ago. You never dream, you always dream about someone you've seen in your life. You never make up new faces. And sometimes those faces can be combined. You might have seen that person in life once in a shop or on TV. But always the people you dream about your dreams do not make up new faces when you dream.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I could see that, yeah. They could combine them. What if I'm looking at that website that says this person does not exist? And I dream about that person. You would. You could. Well, then you're insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I think any faces you've seen you'd use even if it was a made-up face. That's true. Even if it was a fake face. It's still a face I've seen. probably seen video game cases. Yeah, exactly. So, Scott, I've got to ask you, okay. So I got these glasses. Yeah. I don't need glasses. These are just faux, you know, pretending to be a nerd glass. Yeah. And how do you, how do your glasses not reflect? Because if I put these on, they do that.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So these have anti-reflection stuff on them. They do. Yeah. The coding. The coding goes. Now, these are not, I don't need these for seeing. These are just for blue light, like, less headaches while I work on a computer. kind of things. So I don't actually need them to see. They're meant to be, but they've got this blue thingy going across this. I get a little, if I get right up in my, you can kind of see it, see a little bit. Yeah, not as much though. I mean, I can see the blur color of the reflection of your screen, but I don't actually
Starting point is 00:22:44 see the reflection. So yeah, these have a coating on them, which is partly why I bought them because I didn't, I knew I'd be streaming a lot with these and I didn't want the reflection. So that's what you want. You want anti-reflective lenses. It's usually a coding. It sometimes costs a little more. Sometimes they just come this way.
Starting point is 00:23:01 But like prescription ones, you can do that as well. Well, these were like $230. Oh, my Lord. That's too much. I paid $35 for these. And they also are blue light, anti-blue light, and they were $35. Yeah, see this one, you can totally see my screen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And if I turn on my iPad, you can see my iPad too. Oh, yeah, yours are super reflecting. You guys do live in America. I mean, we're in Australia, so we're about 30 years behind. So, you know, these are probably high tech. But anyway, I actually don't need glasses. I've got perfect eyesight. You guys just got, you guys just got the Temple of Doom and unleaded gas, right?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah, yeah. Sounds right. Yeah, pretty much. Two, those VHSs are good, aren't they, eh? They're amazing. Wait, now I can choose between IC and D.C.? Oh, man. It's a big, big things happening down under.
Starting point is 00:23:59 All right, hey, one of the things that we like to do here on the monthly is have Gidgett come on and we play a little trivial things. Yeah, that's right. She asks us trivial questions about areas of her interest and we try to answer them. So, Gidgett, without further ado, what is our topic this week? And how do you want to do this? Well, you mentioned it. Oh, by the way, I take notice of what people, because I watch this later on.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I forgot to write down all the other stuff that people said. But I did notice earlier on, someone was like, when you mentioned, I'll get it's on. Someone's like, oh, she goes for so long. Well, I'm going to go longer now, so you can get stuck. Yeah, quit complaining in there. She'll just go longer, you guys. In some circles, in some circles lasting longer is a plus.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, oh. So true. Oh. Oh. Hey, let's do some trivia. I like that. I like that everyone paused and just said, oh, to that. Yeah, it was just like, awkward.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Oh. Yeah. Okay, all right. So this, because the retro cinema just did our top 10, 80s animated films of all time, I thought, let's just open the borders and just do all animated films. Hopefully, you boys do like it, the odd animated film from time to time. They're certainly not just for children, I don't think. I love everything animated, big fan.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, yeah. Excellent. All right. Scott's going to do well on this one. I'm predicting right now that this is Scots. Oh, I don't know, dude. More Scots Balliwick. I'm not feeling.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I think you're both one and one for this year. Yeah. So, right? Or no, I think Brian's officially up by one, I think. Let's say, you know, that, I think it's 2-1 Brian right now. Oh, actually 2-1, right? Because we've had three. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Brian killed it last week or last time. So I think I need to tie it up today is what I'm doing. All right. Well, Scotty Pooze, you can go first. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Hi, chat. Bye, chat. Bye, chat. Bye, chat. Bye, chat. You can still contribute because I'll really. I'll read it later, so don't worry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'll watch it later and write down everything you say about me. Go ahead. Yeah. I don't have an ego. No, I don't know. It's all good. No, I'm just a little old me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:09 All right. So, all right, number one. So, Scott, all right. In the movie Up, what job did Carl Freakinson do before retiring? A, delivery driver, B, pilot, C, hot, Air balloon pilot, or D, helium balloon salesman. He was a D helium balloon salesman. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Thank you very much. Glad you got that one. Out of the park. Right. I'm sorry about this, Brian. This one's quite, I always test them on Colonel Kickhead, and he got this wrong. I would have got the last one wrong, so we're really off to the rest. Oh, we're fine then.
Starting point is 00:26:50 We're fine. Yeah, it's just completely fudge the whole thing. Don't worry about it. Exactly. It's all right. Okay, number two. What is the name of the young boy in the film Coco? Is it A, Andreas, B, Miguel, C, Palo, or D, Max?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Miguel is the one that's coming to mind. I'm going to say Miguel. You are correct. Nicely done. You are correct. Ryan. Boy, God, Brian. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 All right. Good job. All right. So, Scott, number three. What type of primate in the Lion King is Rafiti? Is he, A, a baboon, B, a spider monkey, C, a vervent monkey, or D, a mandrel? Well, one correction. It's pronounced Rafiki, what a K.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Oh, ooh. Get you. It's all right. It's okay. I just show so much I watch that movie. I watched it on repeat when my kids are little. Um, let's go with, uh, baboon, I believe. You get the weird baboon face.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. Brian? Oh, shit. He's a man drill with the colors. Damn it. Ah. Scott, oh, watch this movie hoax with my kids and then completely fuggers it up. Well done.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Well done. All right. Brilliant. Okay, Brian gets that one. Brian. Yes. Number four. In The Little Mermaid.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Who does. Ariel fall in love with. Is it A, Prince Ian? B, Prince Eric. C. Prince Brian or D. Prince Humperdink. I know for sure it's not the last two. I think it's Eric. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Damn it. Brian taking an early leave. Scott was a little bit. A little bit boisterous early on there. Yeah, I screwed up. Remember that Futurama episode where it's the lost city of Atlanta and Fry gets on with a mermaid and says
Starting point is 00:28:58 why couldn't she be a fish on the top and the lady on the bottom that's one of my favorite things ever oh my gosh anyway all right sorry go ahead question for Scott oh you make me think of that the dog episode now I know my daughter cries every time you even mention it all you have to do is go hey Carter remember the dog from Futurama
Starting point is 00:29:18 and she'll come hit me in the arm and cry yeah Yeah. Anyway. She's going to love my octopus teacher. I know, dude. I'm so excited. Oh, that's so good that documentary.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's great. Yeah, we're going to watch it this weekend. I'm excited. Not that I watch the Oscars, but I know that it won. So, well done. Well done. Okay. Number five is Scotty?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Mm-hmm. Yep. All right. Scott? Yep. In the film Ratatoui, what dish is being made that introduces Remy the Rat to Alfredo Linguini? Is it A, pasta, B, soup, C, casserole, or D, Ratatouille?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Soup. He's making soup and he puts better stuff in there. Ding. Ding, dingy, ding ding, ding, well done. Good job. I like when they, I know people find it weird. I like when the boys get the questions right. No, that's right.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I'm happy. I'm happy for them. All right. Thank you. Okay, Brian. Number six, what is the name? name of the sleek new robot Wally falls for
Starting point is 00:30:23 in the film Wally is it A Ava B Mia C, Eve or D Tina It's Now I'm second guessing my
Starting point is 00:30:39 If it's either Eve or Eva And I think it's just Eve That is correct Yeah Nice Yeah The weird thing with that question is When Wally
Starting point is 00:30:48 refers to her he goes Eva he goes Eva yeah yeah yeah it sounds a bit like so yeah I was being a bit of a smart well done clever clever thank you thank you yeah yeah I am not just big hair I'm more than that
Starting point is 00:31:06 you're more than big hair so much you're so much more than a fluffy cardigan look oh look at that cozy wow yeah I got green because we were doing animated so I thought well what I might as well look like Look like Elmo. Very good. Yeah, Elmo.
Starting point is 00:31:20 That's it. Didn't that guy turn out to be a peto or something? No. It's a long story. I don't even know how it ended up. I think there was something weird going on there. No, sorry. It's a weird story.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I love that documentary, but then things got weird. All right, anyway, go ahead. Things got weird. Yeah, world was weird. Okay. All right. Scott, number seven, in the 1937 film, Snow White. I think you were born around there, weren't you?
Starting point is 00:31:46 No. I can't be a smart us, we're all about the same age. Okay, in the 1937 film Snow White, Snow White finds the cottage of seven dwarves. Now, this is a little bit of a different question. Okay. So you're really going to have to think about this one. Right, the seven dwarves were grumpy, happy, sleepy,
Starting point is 00:32:10 bashful, sneezy, and dopey. What is the name of the seventh dwarf? Doc. Mm-hmm. Yes. Got it. Nailed it. Damn.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah. I saw that with Tom Merritt like a year ago for whatever current date things. Yeah. And so it was slightly fresh on the mind. But I will go on the record to say early Disney features, that being the first, not my favorite thing in the world. I kind of hate them. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
Starting point is 00:32:40 The animation style or what is it about them? It's the style of animation and it's more of a thing of its time, so I don't want to give it too much heat. but it just really always rubbed me wrong. The singing portions are always just so... La-lal-le-le-le-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-dly. It's just shitty. I love it. I am completely the opposite to you, Scott.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I am addicted to, like, the 30s and 40s. I am addicted to anything that I love... I would rather watch Snow White or Cinderella or Sleeping Beauty than probably the 80s and 90s Disney movies, to be honest with you. I'd flip it. I just love the fact that they were made. back then and they were so advanced and it was so amazing. I love history.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, all of that I have huge respect for it. Nothing wrong with any of that. There's just an aesthetic to it that is very, it's just too saccharine and careful. And, you know, Disney always rewrites things to be that way. I know, I know, I know. And a lot of people do it. I'm not bashing them.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But for me, it just never, never fit. I like when they got experimented. Yeah, you're bashing them. Like people hate Fox and the Hound. I love it. People don't like Atlantis. I love it. I like when they get weird and experimental
Starting point is 00:33:49 and I don't know, it's just the thing with me. Nothing wrong with that. Do you like the secret of NIM? I love the, oh my gosh, I love the secret of NIM. Dude, you don't understand. Secret of Nym and I, we go way back. Like, in any time that what's his name. So that was our childhood.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That was our, see, the thing is, all that earlier stuff was way before all three of us. I got shown it very young by my mom, but all those, like we just did, our top 10 and 80s. animated films and you know um the feeble movie uh as well you know we were so familiar we grew up with them because we were young people so it's a bit like the star wars thing as well what you grow up with in your generation you're going to be more fond of than maybe things that happened before
Starting point is 00:34:34 or after it that's true but there's something about there's something about don bluth though who rebelled against the disney system and made things like secret of nym made things like American tale, like, went his own way. And then, of course, you know, Dragon's Lair. And the dude went to freaking BYU and lived in Utah and was born here. Like, I got all these connections to that guy. And nothing he made was bad. It was the first cartoon I ever saw where a rat said, damn. It was great. It was great. He walked out of the thing after what's her name got caught. Mrs. Bigsby, whatever name was. She got caught by the cat. Bigsby. And she goes, and he goes, damn. And then he goes, and I went, a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:35:13 said damn. Look at that. My mom was like, oh my goodness. I can't believe the cartoon said damn. I'm like, Mom, get on the train. This is the future. Anyway. What about the Ralph Baxi stuff?
Starting point is 00:35:25 You got to remember. That's true. Ralph Baxi. Oh, I love Ruff Baxi. You know, fire and ice and the Lord of the Rings and heavy metal. Brian, is that all right now?
Starting point is 00:35:34 They use rotoscoping as well. And that, I saw that really early on and that blew me away. You know, that was like what cartoons to add. adults that I'm watching as a kid. That's weird. Look at what Brian's holding up.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Brian is holding up a beautiful scale rendition of Dragonslayer. Don Bluth's finest work. I can finally play this without wasting $18 in the arcade. That's awesome. I'm so jealous. I love that thing. It's even got the great attract mode and stuff. So you can actually play that.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You can play that game on that. Princess from the clutches of an evil dragon. Oh, my Lord. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is such, it's like full attract mode and stuff, everything. And there's no laser disc in there that'll skip and lose your 50 cents on and have the thing go down for another week and can't play it. Humorously enough, humorously enough, if you open up the back, shut up. There's a, shut up, the Laserdisc player.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Are you kidding? And if you open up the Laserdist player. Do they still sell this? Can I get one? Yeah, all of one, too. They do, yeah, I think you go to, uh, uh, uh, New Wave toys, and they still sell them. I'm so getting that today.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Is this awesome with the actual laser displayer in the back? I had no idea. They went that crazy with it. And there's H-TMI on there, so you can play it on a TV if you wanted? Yeah. I know what I want for Christmas. I know what I want for Christmas. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That is so cool. Oh, my Lord. All right. Wow. I'm all excited now. Okay. Sorry. Continue.
Starting point is 00:37:05 All right. Don't tell anyone your address, Brian, because you'd be broken into. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bagan's Leah, people would be creeping into your home like ninjas. That would be what they'd take. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah, that's what they'd be going for. Well, that's what I'd go for. That's cool. Okay, number eight, so this is Brian. Mm-hmm. All right. In the 1950 film, Cinderella, what is the name of Cinderella's two horrible step-sisters?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Is it A, Anastasia and Mawisha? Is it B, Drisela and Olga? C, Tatiana and Maria. or D, Anastasia and Drizella. It's Anastasia and Drizella. It is indeed. Drizola was the one I knew for sure, and then you paired it with one that I knew for sure it wasn't. Yeah, another Don Bluth joint, by the way, that movie.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Oh, that's right. Yep. Those little mice. Not my favorite. I'm kind of, again, the weirder they got, whether it was Disney or him or anybody else, the more I liked it. I like Titan A.E. a lot. And a lot of people hate that movie, but I liked it. It was good.
Starting point is 00:38:09 No, it's it, you know, everyone's got there. For me, my favorite, actually, Cinderella version is the one with Drew Barrymore. Oh, I forgot you. I like, I really, yeah, I really like that one. I just, that's the one that I, I like the most. The girls out there would be like going, yeah, Gidge, yeah. Yeah. And all the guys like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Solidarity. It's got no aliens in it. I mean, like, look at the, like in the chat just now, TV's Travis says, Tate and Titan A.E. was good right below him. J.C. Calhoun. Titan A.E. was boring. Like, you can't. Everyone's going to have a different thing. That's just the rules.
Starting point is 00:38:47 How are you reading the chat room if you're not looking at the chat room anymore? Oh, because we're not talking about. No, that's true. That's true. All right. There you go. Now they're hitting again for our next question. Okay, go. J.C. Titan A.E. I liked it. I like Titan A. That was a Fox movie, actually.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I don't know if I've ever seen Titan A.E. that was also Bluth though directed by Bluth that's very cool I've got some exclusive poster or somewhere in the shed from that movie because I was working at Fox at the time and Fox released it so I've got some special promotion thing from that so I'll send it to you Scott okay please yep all right yeah very welcome who's turn is it mine Scott yeah Scott okay number nine what was Forkey's first goal in toy story
Starting point is 00:39:34 four. A, to go back in the bin, B, to rescue one of the aliens from the arcade machine. C, to find Bo Peep, or D, to become a real boy. What was the name of the character again? Forky. Forky. He was a spork. Oh, oh, fork. Oh, I didn't see this movie yet.
Starting point is 00:39:56 What? I've got to say, I, it's actually become, because I love antique stores, so this appealed to me. a lot. I love all the toy story movies. I really do. I think they're all perfect. But if someone said, right, choose a toy story movie, it'd be number four. Yeah, a lot of people really love,
Starting point is 00:40:14 a lot of people hate that there is four, but I like that there's four. And the, uh, I love all of them. I think they're wonderful. What's a Canadian, what's a Canadian motorcycle? Oh, Giquiano Reeves is in it. Yeah, his character, his, uh, his evil caneval toy thing.
Starting point is 00:40:34 but it's not, yeah. It's not actually looking able, right? I couldn't get the rights or something. Right. I still haven't seen it, so this is going to be a guess. They've gone rogue. Give me the names again, or give me the choices again. I'm just going to have to guess on this one.
Starting point is 00:40:48 What were they again? Okay. So you haven't seen Toy Story for Forky, Sporky. Yeah. He's a spork. Yeah. Fork and spoon. A, to go back in the bin.
Starting point is 00:40:58 B, to rescue one of the aliens from the arcade machine. C, to find both peep. or D, to become a real boy. I don't know. I really don't know. I'll say get back into the thing, the chest or whatever you called it. The bin?
Starting point is 00:41:20 The bin. Back into the bin. You're right. Oh, is that it? That's the only guessed. He comes from trash. He wants to go back to trash. Ah, that's fake. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's all he wants to do. I have no idea. I need to see it. Thanks for the reminder. And also I will take my lucky guess. All right. Can I say I made up most of these questions, but that one I got from the internet, right?
Starting point is 00:41:41 There was an animated movie quiz and that question was in it. And their answer was to find Bo Peep. And I'm like, that's not right. No, I mean, they did eventually do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So don't trust quizzes online.
Starting point is 00:41:57 That's why I do my own quizzes because they get them wrong. Yeah. Exactly. All right, Brian, number 10, in Toy Story 2, what character does Joan Cusack voice? Is it A, Bo Peep, B, Mrs. Mrs. Potato Head, C, Jesse, or D, tour guide Barbie. It's too easy. It's Jesse.
Starting point is 00:42:20 It is Jesse. Kelsey Grammer is the prospector dude and... Yeah. Michael Keaton with Ken. Yep. Don't forget, the Mrs. Potato Head is played by George Costan. Danza's mother. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Del Harris. Still Harris. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And Bo Peep was played by Annie Potts. And Tour Guide Barbie was played by Jody Benson. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:43 This is a hell of a movie, too. Yeah. He's great. Love two. They're all fun. It's got Newman in it. Newman's, there's two Seinfeld actors. That's right.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Newman is the bad guy. Oh, that's right. Al's Toy World Connection. Yeah. Newman. Easy one. Hello, Jerry. Hello, Newman.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Okay. All right. Scott 11, which two Disney princesses sacrifice themselves for the safety of their father? Is it A, Moulan and Ariel, B, Pocahontas and Bell? C, Bell and Cinderella, or D, Moulan and Bell. For their father? Moulon and Belle, I think, would be the answer. Let me think for something.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Is that right? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because Moulon. goes to war for her dad in his stead and then for Belle, I can't remember her whole deal with her dad but yeah. I thought she was, I would have
Starting point is 00:43:40 I would have, I wouldn't have said Bell. I've Moulon for sure. In Beauty and the Beast, the beast captures her father. So she then goes to the castle and says, look, hey. God, I thought she wasn't working than that. He'll probably die in prison. You can
Starting point is 00:43:57 take me. Oh, right. Right. And the father goes, yeah, all right. Bye, honey. And he bug us off And she takes his place That's right He's a spindly little dude
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like a little shaky little old man Kind of character in it Right okay I remember now It's been a while Yep Well done
Starting point is 00:44:16 I just remember her going I hate my town It's so freaking stupid Here I wish I didn't live here I'm just going to read a book La la la la la Why is that Kendall
Starting point is 00:44:27 Laura talking That da Da da Oh, my God. Inanimate object shouldn't be singing. Hit them with a baseball bat. That'd be my Disney movie. We're delving into a nightmare before Christmas territory.
Starting point is 00:44:45 A little bit. Yeah. Oh, my God, the clock's talking. Kill it. Yeah, kill it. It's not only talking, but it sounds like Winchester from Mash. David Huygens Steers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Anyway, all right, Brian's turn. Your turn, Brian, I think. Or is it. It is. No, Scott, you got that last. also unright, so it's Brian number 12. Which animated movie features the song, A, whole new world?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Is it A, Milan, B, the Lion King, C, Aladdin, or D, the Little Mermaid? Scoop a chocolate, scoop of vanilla, don't waste my time, it's Aladdin. Don't you dare close your eyes. Man, you may as well just handed Brian a gift and said, here, unwrap this.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I know, thank. It's like, there are like several that you've gotten, that there's no way I would have gotten. Had you even missed them, I wouldn't have gotten the right answer. So I'm glad that... So we picked the right order, huh? You did. Pick the right order, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Good Lord. Good Lord. All right. Back to me. Okay, back to you. All right, Scott, 13. Which animated flick is Mother Gothel? G-O-T-H-E-L from?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Is it A, Brave, B, Tangled, C, Shrek, or D, Beauty and the Beast? What's a frick? Sorry. What was the name again? mother goffle goffle goffel g-o-to-h-h-el
Starting point is 00:46:09 well the only one I think isn't is one that I don't know at least a oh it's between Shrek and shit do I even know
Starting point is 00:46:25 the mother in that one what's that's we'll say I'll say tangled I don't know tangled you're right Total gas
Starting point is 00:46:35 Total gas I think I know that There's there even a mother and Shrek There's no mother and Shrek Not until the second one When they get married Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:46:45 Groffle is there name I think there is there is a mother But yeah they're not It's like queen something or or whatever But yeah Mother Gothal is from Tangle Well I'm going to make a I'm going to make a bold statement
Starting point is 00:46:57 Still the best horse In all of Disney history is entangled I have not seen Tangle You would love Tangled Tangled is fall over funny It's real good Really? Okay It's funny
Starting point is 00:47:09 It is funny It's a good animation It's an old-fashioned sort of story But it's done really well Entertaining It's like a new version of Rapunzel right Yeah yeah Yeah pretty much
Starting point is 00:47:21 I mean I was watching sing today You know it just I love you happy And it's great Yeah sing is good I like sing And I've got no excuse I don't have kids or grandkids, so I'm just like an immature.
Starting point is 00:47:34 If I didn't have kids, if I didn't have kids, I'd still watch this stuff. I haven't even done. Oh, you know what? It might be my recommendal next week, so I'm not going to say. But I have an animated thing I just watch that's totally for kids. I don't care. It's good. No, I don't care either.
Starting point is 00:47:47 No, we can watch what we want to watch. Damn straight. I watch some illegal stuff too, so there's that. Okay. Brian. Yes. Snowfitz. 14.
Starting point is 00:47:55 In Zootopia. In Zootopia, Mr. Big is an Arctic Shrew. A fearsome crime boss, what type of animals play his goons? A, polar bears, B, weasels, C, ferrets, or D, honey badgers. Oh, geez. Um. Lemonade 3,000, yes, I am 50. I'm thinking either weasels or ferrets.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I'm going to say, let's say weasels. Scott? Can I hear the question one more time? Okay, in Zootopia, Mr. Big is an Arctic Shrew, a fearsome crime boss. What type of animals play his goons? The options are polar bears, weasels, ferrets, or honey badgers. I thought, see, this is a problem because I thought he was a mouse the whole time. I think shrews are very similar to mice, but they're more, they're black with a more distinct sort of,
Starting point is 00:49:00 I watch a lot of Attenborough More pointy nose Or something like that with a shirt Yeah It's a good movie though, fun It is Yeah That one I've seen
Starting point is 00:49:10 Oh my God Well Brian Brian you say weasles You said weas I'm not going to tell you what I said Or did you say ferrets You said ferrets or weas You said one of them
Starting point is 00:49:20 I'll tell you what I said Because it's the other one I get to be Brian don't I'm not interfering with it You girls can flood it out for yourself I'm not interfering I'll say I think he said ferrets
Starting point is 00:49:33 so I'm going to say weasels please tell me I got that right well done well done did I get it right oh shit god have you got what if you got one of those sounds when you both fail miserably
Starting point is 00:49:51 I don't have that I have this I have that guy yeah there we go that's better yep yep yep I like that Shoot. Okay. So this is Scott's question. 15. In Shrek, what structure does Princess Fiona take shelter in to transform into an ogress? Is it a barn, B, a farmhouse, C, a cave, or D, a windmill? I haven't seen Shrek in so long.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I thought it was more like a tower type thing, so maybe I'm thinking maybe windmill. So a windmill. So a windmill. Mill? Yes. Oh, it is? Yeah. All right. I'll take it. I just knew it was like a tall. I don't know who was keeping points. Hang on, Scott. Scott, one.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Seven, seven is what I've got. We tied? We tied. I've got a tiebreaker. I had a feeling. You always have a tiebreaker. Now we can actually use it. Yeah, now we can use it.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yay! All right. Tie breaker, tiebreaker. All right. The first in, okay? So you've just got to say the answer. Don't you're bad or anything like that. Just.
Starting point is 00:50:57 shout out the movie pressure is on right tiebreaker what 2004 animated film has the characters Bob the untouchables the untouchables or sorry
Starting point is 00:51:11 the Incredibles the Incredibles yes Ding ding ding ding oh I heard it was Bob and you got there he had a bit of a fumble
Starting point is 00:51:22 you know what got me you know what got me was all you had to say was oh four always, 04 to me is synonymous with The Incredibles. Yeah, you're way better with years than I am on it's so weird.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like knowing movie, what years movies came out. Yeah, I can't believe I yelled the Untouchables. I meant The Intouchables. That great animated film about Elliot Ness and the criminal underworld of Chicago. That was an animated movie. Wasn't it? Brian DePama must be so bad.
Starting point is 00:51:55 So cute and sweet. And the soundtrack is amazing. Oh, it's adorable. That line, you'll never forget. The kids always say it, you put one of theirs in the hospital, they'll put one of yours in the morgue. You never forget, you know. Yeah, that was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah, it was hilarious moment. And then they blew up a balloon and flew it around the church. Yeah, it's exactly. The untouchables, I always think so. My girlfriend at the time, pre-Tina, and I were at the amusement park here in Denver called Elish Gardens. And we were waiting in line for, I think, the big Viking ship that goes back and forth. And there was a woman in line.
Starting point is 00:52:27 that a very buxom woman that my girlfriend pointed out to me and said look at her t-shirt and there draped across
Starting point is 00:52:35 her breasts were the words it was a movie t-shirt and it said the untouchables. The untouchables. The untouchables.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It's just like great shirt, right? And I said, yeah, probably better than if it said the big easy.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Which was a movie that was popular around the same time. Or Lord of the Rings the two towers that would have been good too but uh yeah that would be good too yes it was way earlier than the two towers yeah the there's a competition for your listeners is send in you should you should have some prize or something what is the best t-shirt with a movie title for a girl with she could have been that she could have been wearing yeah exactly well yeah uh we did it guys i got i came out
Starting point is 00:53:18 on top so that means we're tied for the year but you both did really well you did both did much better than I thought you were going to... Yeah, Brian did way better than he thought he was going to do. I did way better than I thought I was going to do it with a couple of guesses, but well done. Yeah, I like how it was that weird every other one where, uh, what was Ariel? Right, exactly. And then mine was like, what's the name of the little mermaid?
Starting point is 00:53:43 It got real tricky there. Fishing and fishy, fishy. That's right. We enter May as tied individuals. That means that we'll have a big overall tiebreaker next month when we do this again. I'll have to think of a big one. And I think of a big one every night. But I'll have to think of a big quiz for end of next month.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And if any of the Tadpool event or any of the listeners have any suggestions regarding a movie quiz, by all means, send me in a topic. I'm open to a topic. I will do all the questions. So send me in any ideas. Yeah, it's a great idea. And don't forget, Gidgett has other stuff she does. Why don't you tell folks where they can find it?
Starting point is 00:54:22 I do. I co-host an 80s movie podcast called The Retro Cinema Podcasts. You can find it on any, just type the Retro Cinema Podcasts into Google. We're on like anything. As I said, we just did our top 10 80s animated movies. Next week, we are doing war games with Matthew Broderick. Very excited. I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And then after that, we're doing the Cannonball Run. Fab Flicks, Gidgets, Fab Flicks has been delayed just a little bit more because I had to go away. so that'll be out in May but I've got two Twitter accounts feel free to follow me on either Twitter account to find out what's going on that's awesome our best to your mother and enjoy your giant television we'll see you next time all right what if they still have like uh if they have to do like pal remember the pal format I wonder if they have to do that oh yeah NTSC slash pal or something like that or ours is NTSC theirs was PAL but I think PAL's gone now right isn't it just Everyone does something. I don't know. I don't know if it is.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I don't know how that works. Anyway, hey, speaking of pals, let's have our pal Brian here play a song for a break. Because after that, we've got my sister, Wendy, and a thing to cover. So stick around. We'll do that in a second. Before that, though, this song. Correct. And just a heads up, there will be no coverville today because this segment went long. So it's pushed everything. Yeah. It's pushed everything down.
Starting point is 00:55:46 No, actually, just because of the big freelance project that has to go out there won't be a coverville. I might try and get on and stream something like a little short thing, but I haven't had any time to prep a show, let alone record a show. So, uh, no coverville today, but there will be, I guess, the connection tomorrow at, uh, 230 Mountain Time at Twitch.tv slash coverville. Nice. All right. Let's get to this. This is, uh, an Atlanta-based, uh, band called Mattiel, M-T-I-E-L. It's named after the singer-songwriter, the vocalist, Mattiel Brown. And he's joined by Jonah Swilly. They've got two brand new tracks that they just released.
Starting point is 00:56:27 This is one of them. It is called Those Words. Get ready for some cool jangle pop. Here is Mattiel. Who's to say it's true, who's to say it's true or false how? it with a grain of salt when I hear it yeah when I hear it
Starting point is 00:57:28 and I used to play it pretty nice with that unsolicited advice but those words don't mean much no those words don't mean much what a silly thing you do on a certain day while I'm drinking my cup of coffee outside in the hallway
Starting point is 00:57:50 How many minutes will it cost And how many hours have I lost Try it's hard to keep you from taking my time away Who's to say it's true or if I'm taking my time away? Who's to say it's true or false or if I'm going to take your call when it's ringing Yeah, when it's ringing I used to play that game
Starting point is 00:58:27 with you A game that I would always lose But those words don't mean much No, those words don't mean much What a silly thing to do on a certain day While I'm drinking my cup of coffee Outside in the hallway And how many minutes will
Starting point is 00:58:49 How many hours have I lost trying so hard to keep you from taking my time away? What a silly thing to do on a Sunday While I'm drinking my cup of coffee outside in the hallway And how many minutes will it cost And how many hours have I lost Trying so hard to keep you from taking my time away But those words don't mean much I don't mean much
Starting point is 00:59:49 Those words don't be much I don't mean much I don't need much I don't fool around with sports cars. I'm a family man. But don't worry, I'm human. There it goes. I'm on Sarah Lee, fresh, frozen banana cake.
Starting point is 01:00:35 That's a nice dream. I dreamt about my cat. This is the morning stream. Hail Hydra. All right. We're back, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Brian, that song again.
Starting point is 01:01:02 That song again is called Those Words by Mattiel, M-A-T-T-I-E-L. It's like Mattel with an eye in the middle. Oh! There's no I in Mattel. Oh. There's only we. There's no we in there, isn't right? There's no we in Mattel, even.
Starting point is 01:01:16 All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. We are back right in time to do this. That's right. My sister Wendy joins us all the way from the beautiful state of Massachusetts. Minnesota is what I meant to say. Hey, Wendy. How are you? Hello.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Welcome. Hey, Ken. Yeah, we can hear you know. Oh, you can. A little choppy. I hear you kind of. Are you there now? Are you good?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah, I'm here. Oh, okay. Yeah, I can hear you now. Hey, it's my sister. Hey, I heard room. I heard tale that you might come out here in July or something. We might see you. I'm excited about that.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Is that true? What's awesome is you heard it from me. Oh yeah, that's right. I heard it from you. That was the rumor. The rumor came from Wendy, and apparently it was true. No, it's exciting. Is that everybody or just you?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Or what's the plan? Everybody. What a weird idea. Yeah, I know. I love it. I can't wait. Your kids grow up so fast that I feel like I miss huge chunks, so it'll be good to catch up and hang out with everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And, you know, I don't know. Just see you. It'll be good. Anyway, hey, you're back. It's my sister, Wendy. She comes on Thursdays for a segment we call Therapy Thursday. She's an actual therapist, so this stuff's real. And she does this out of the goodness of her heart to help you find people with your questions.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Wendy, we got a big one today. It's not that big, but it's big enough. Oh, crap, I forgot to paste it in here. Hold on a second. It'll only take me a second to pull it out. Yeah, I don't know what this one. I know what it is. I know.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I know. I know. I know. I know, Brian can't even read it. Um, there you go, Brian. I'll put it in there so you can read it. Say it's complicated. oh my god it's like it's like a novel i know it's pretty big well here's how it goes i'll start
Starting point is 01:02:52 it we'll keep the person anonymous it says this good morning falcon and winter soldier i think they mean i think winter soldier's for windy because their name starts with the w but yeah that would make sense i guess the f stands for me age of 13 yeah nice you're prettier on camera than i thought um hope you were all doing well says this listener long time listener of your podcast and something recently happened that i thought would write in about and see what windy thought about this he put in a cold but he means you windy I don't know why he wrote Nicole. Or Nicole's happy to join in and give us her thoughts.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Sure. She may have a hard question. She doesn't have feelings to. Maybe they really think our name's our Falcon Winter Soldier at this point now. I'm not sure. I don't know. Anyway, it says I was raised in a small town in rural Arkansas. My father was a truck driver who dropped off high school or dropped out of high school in eighth grade.
Starting point is 01:03:36 My mom dropped out in the 11th grade. I was the first one of my family to go to college. My mom and dad had no clue what to do. And I had two amazing people who worked in housing at the college. who I got a job with that took me under their wings and helped me navigate going to college. I worked for these two for three years while I was in college and they pushed me to do way more than I ever dreamed of. I am now working in higher education and have been for over 15 years. I was able to complete my bachelor's degree while working with them and then continued that job when I was working on my master's degree.
Starting point is 01:04:10 They also gave me support and motivation to go forward. The two people I worked with were named, and he's changed the names here, Stephanie, head of the department, and Tom reports to Stephanie, but I reported to him. Tom and I became very close. He pushed me to leave the organization. I was at for the longest time, I think he means, and then I took a better job. He since left the organization as well. He and I stayed in touch, but drifted apart.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I know I would not be where I am today without his help and guidance. He helped shape me into who I am now. I might call this guy a mentor, I guess. He says, well, Stephanie calls me. early one morning, and it sounds like this is recent, to tell me about what she saw in the news. Her and says her and Tom both moved to another state shortly after he started working full-time at the college. Tom was arrested for child porn in early March of this year, and I still haven't processed everything. I'm absolutely furious at him, and I can't believe my mentor for the last 20 years has been arrested and is charged with something so horrible.
Starting point is 01:05:11 He admitted it was his, and he's about to go to trial. so it's not just an accusation. It actually happened. I don't know what to do at this point. I have removed him from all social media, took down the wedding photos he was in, and now I'm just waiting to hear what happens at the trial. It's a weird situation for myself,
Starting point is 01:05:29 who already suffers from imposter syndrome and adding this to this just through my world for a loop. Any advice would be appreciated. I think, or sorry, I know that I wouldn't have had the life I have now if it wasn't for him, and it's a very weird feeling. I've always felt like I owed him for helping me out. I do the same type of work as he did because I know that good can come from this position and I have found my purpose in life.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I don't know how to feel about this. Currently, I have a lot of anger and resentment and still shock and disbelief. Thank you for reading and I love the show. It's how I end my night. Thank you all for what you do and have a great day. Well, that is really rough to hear. This is not an isolated experience. I've had this happen before not to this degree.
Starting point is 01:06:14 but somebody I know got in massive legal trouble and before that were somebody I considered like a really, I don't know, kind of a moral compass type person who was easily admired from afar and everybody loved and thought was perfect and then suddenly you find out they're evading taxes or their whatever the situation is. I won't get into details, but this can happen to people. People who thought were somebody turns out to be somebody else and then you got to do. deal with it so we're going to talk about how to deal with it so wendy what do you want to say to arkansas uh person whose name we will not use good one so let's let's start with let's start with like um some empathy for just how hard that is right like this is not a mentor is great in lots of ways as a word, but I think sometimes it can be, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:19 mentor slash father, right? Like you, in ways that a role of father plays, that's what happened here. Depending on, especially depending on how, you know, if they're the first person that you've kind of looked up to in your perceived career and, and they kind of take you under the wing and show you how to do what you do and do it even better,
Starting point is 01:07:41 God, I mean, I think of the person who is my mentor, and this would completely gut me if something, if this kind of stuff were to come out about this person. So he should be gutted. Like, this is, his response is completely normal and difficult and, you know, it's really hard. And there's a form of this people, like Scott, your example, maybe it's a little less severe. And then all the way down to like, like, you just thought someone was someone and then they're not, you know, like, oh, I thought you're really a nice guy. It really turns out you're a jerk to waiters, right? Like there's a very minimal version of this, too, where you see what you think you know, and it's held steady for 20 years and then suddenly it's different. So I want to break this down because it, okay, so let's start with empathy.
Starting point is 01:08:35 This is really difficult. second thing there's there's grief and um mourning and loss and pain and anger and you know all the things that come with this that are important to feel and go through you know i i'm going to assume if this was just in march and he you know is writing this that he's still in shock right there's and he said that as as much right but that he hasn't had a chance to really process much of it so we're jump i'm jumping to like you've been talking to me for a while and then i can give you some ways to to deal with this um but that initial like saying it out loud and realizing it's true and you know those stages of grief you know maybe he hasn't gone through yet so i want to give a caveat that
Starting point is 01:09:23 maybe there's work to be done before what i'm about to say is going to be helpful at all yeah um anyway so we so we get to this idea and this is maybe for everybody else and he can save this and listen to it later when he's ready. Because there really is this, it's hard to jump to sort of certain clarity when we're still really in pain, right? So like if you hurt yourself pretty significantly and someone's like, all right, it's time to learn multiplication tables, you are not going to be able to do it, right? So when we are in active pain, our brain works in particular ways and their survival ways. They are not. Let me be, you know, curious and open and ask questions. That's not the stage you're in when you are in pain. So honor the pain. It will pass as you grieve appropriately
Starting point is 01:10:16 and then push pause and then come back to this when you're ready. But this is the, this is sort of the curious analysis part. So humans are complicated, right? They all have different sides to them. There's many different parts of us that play different roles and different places. I mean, we could look at an entire industry, child pornography industry. There are people you and I are walking around with all the time that are participating in that world, whether it's viewing it, making it, selling it something, right? And they're not, we're not, they don't have a smell to them. They don't have a hat on that shows us that's what's happening. And so we all just go around pretending things are normal and then people have secret sides to their
Starting point is 01:11:01 life. And some people have darker sides to their life and then others have, you know, they just do silly hobbies that nobody knows about or whatever, right? Like, you know, we're all complicated. So I want to start with everyone thinking about themselves. Who are you in one setting? And then who are you in a different setting? And it may not be a huge jump, but it's, it's something, right? And that's typically because this is a survival response in a group. dynamic to survive socially and sort of physically survival. We're built to read the room in theory, kind of get what we're supposed to behave like, and then act that way to fit in.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And so we've all picked that up no matter where we were raised, what we do. There is stuff that's appropriate in some places that we all then just comply and then sometimes we don't um which is why i'm always weirded out by the not not wearing a mask when everyone else is like you can do that like i don't get it but that's part of your jam right like you have other complicated things that you know nobody is is straightforward and simple so now thinking about yourself and you don't have to confess anything please don't but can you see that where you are uh you have some things you're not going to go tell your mom everything you think or whatever well I mean yeah there's times where um oh I don't know like like I get maybe more so in the pandemic but I'll
Starting point is 01:12:37 there there are there times where I just get so grumpy that doesn't matter what anyone around me I'll say I'm just like a real piss pot about it so it's not like I'm up to no good or whatever it's just I'm so pissy that I think it would shock some people like they would just see me and they feel like my wife like oh my gosh freaking he's just having one of his nights you know kind of thing. So I mean, that's a, that's a mild lame example, but we popped you on, you know, the stage and had you present in that mood. Oh, it'd be, yeah, it'd be horrendous. Like, everybody would go, this isn't what I'm used to. And it's not like, you know, this isn't me saying, oh, that's how I am all the time off the air. That's not what I mean. But, you know, we all have
Starting point is 01:13:16 our moments of whatever. Probably the better example for me is, I don't want to use names or anything, But, you know, we had a somewhat recent last couple of years problem that happened with a somebody I was working with here on the network and had to immediately sever ties and, you know, somebody who I'd, you know, cared about, respected for a really long time. And then they did something kind of terrible. And I, you know, had to deal with it and deal with the ramifications of that. I still haven't really fully gotten over it. so I guess in a way I kind of feel like this dude does it's we're not talking child porn levels of of awful I guess again like you said it's a scale but it's enough it's high enough on the scale that it really sent me back and um made me concerned and you know and I think about it a lot
Starting point is 01:14:09 just kind of I don't think I've properly dealt with it I guess is what I'm saying yeah and most of us don't when sort of these things happen and and part of why we maybe not good at it is we are really used to everyone wearing the appropriate hat and facial expressions most of the time right and so then there's a reason things are in the shadows right is it's not acceptable and there's it's not okay so you don't show it and you know secrecy is has its own breeding ground for things getting pretty rough in people's life right and don't know how to ask for help or I don't, you know, whatever. So then we have these giant moments, right, that then all is revealed. And as humans, we tend to like to categorize things as all good
Starting point is 01:14:56 and all bad. Not everybody does that, like, knee jerk wise, but all of us do like a tidy category so we can know how to feel about it. And this is, if we take it from the evolutionary standpoint of like, I know you're good, I know you're bad, I know you're safe, I know you're not. And so it sounds like what's happened with this guy is suddenly this person who was all good, right? It was all good in his life has a very dark side to him, to him, a part of him. He is not all, nothing but a child pornography, you know, he is a complicated person with many different sides, but that side was hidden and has, is part of creating much harm in our society and clearly for children. Like, there's a reason you have those strong feelings. And I'm not going to take the time
Starting point is 01:15:45 necessarily today to go all into the victim's side of this, but know that I completely acknowledge that. And that's the reason. But trying to understand this guy a little bit is there is lots of different parts of him. You only knew one. You knew the mentor part. You knew someone older than you. Like he wasn't going to show you even his maybe grumpy days. Like, you know, even some of the other things are just not as attractive. Let alone this secret addiction that he's, you know, holding on to for however long, right? Right. So it's complicated.
Starting point is 01:16:19 So when we see somebody, we want them to be all good or all bad, which is why I think when you hear somebody say something, you thought one way about them. And then they're suddenly like wearing a tinfoil hat and you're like, wait, what? It's very confusing because you already believe your brain didn't have to do any more work. Your brain could just, our brain's very efficient. It likes to shortcut everything. So it doesn't have to deal, spend so much energy, right? it's not surprised at most things because it's seen them already, right?
Starting point is 01:16:49 So it's aware of new things that come into the picture. But it does this with relationships. We like our person to be one thing because our brain stops having to work and figure them out. Now suddenly they say something you did not think fit with the picture that you had of them. And your brain has to come back online and goes, wait, hold on. Now, are you actually safe or not? I don't know you anymore, right? So this may be sounding familiar to some of you,
Starting point is 01:17:15 not in some of such extreme examples, but you've learned that people in your life believe very differently about things you didn't know that they did, right? And so I think, or that just maybe they've treated someone poorly. And this is why, like in a divorce, if you are friends with a couple who are getting divorce, it's tricky, right? Especially if it's like a mean divorce.
Starting point is 01:17:38 It's like, well, who I need someone to blame here? Which one? How do I? Who's bad? Who's good, right? there's maybe a tendency there so we have all of this i'm trying to paint the we all do this we're all in the same boat we all have already assumed somebody is one thing and then this is a big reveal right of course it's come through the news um it's coming through stephanie who's the
Starting point is 01:18:02 other mentor right like there's the shock there's the you have no idea this is such a important person in your life so similar if this was about your own father right it's it's probably to that degree, right? Yeah, it feels like to him. Yeah, for sure. I mean, given how important he was in his life and that feels, that feels like as close as you're going to get to like an actual blood parent as any, as anybody would. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Someone in the chat, Dice Tomatoes said this thing and I think is important to bring up. He says, for this person in the, in the letter, it sounds like they may be falling down the quote, who is really who they are, rabbit hole. Like if this person is bad, who else is bad that I didn't notice or know. about is that a that's a real problem makes you trust your own you know your radar your your own judgment yeah yeah 100 percent so that's where this sort of our self-referential problem really shows up that here is a man who is complicated and has made some serious mistakes and is also a great mentor how do I have those two things at the same time in my head that's
Starting point is 01:19:13 that is complicated and difficult. And I don't think many of us can ever get there. And it's okay if he never gets there. But it's still true that got you're a nice guy, but you're also grumpy. How is that possible? Well, it's because we, I mean, me, when I go to bed and me when I wake up, we're two different people, right?
Starting point is 01:19:35 And so this is, people know this. They have their own experience, but we tend to think other people aren't that way, right? And we also have the, sort of the rabble, this guy's, you know, the person in the chat's talking about is the, it does. It's like knocks your feet out from under you. If you have trusted someone so deeply, so long, then it's impossible for us to not question our ability to trust. Yeah. And it also strikes me that it's like, you know, we do this collectively sometimes as a society when somebody like Kevin Spacey is revealed to be a total creep D bag.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And you're like, oh, man. I loved his movies. I watched everything. He's amazing actor. Really admired his work. Thought he was a nice guy. And then to find out that he wasn't and there's that, there's that feeling. But then take that and times it by a billion when it's somebody like directly on your life.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah. Like if you're, I don't know, Kevin Spacey's best friend and you didn't know this is different than if you're just a fan of Kevin Spacey's. It's just like a world of, you know, orders of magnitude different if you know who they are or if they're that directly involved in. your life. And you go back to this sort of safety thing. It really feels unsafe. So like the comment that you then would look around at your life and go, what else have I missed? If I missed that. And I'm going to tell you, everybody is missing everybody who is looking at child pornography or there wouldn't be an entire industry, right? So we're all making the same exact experience. We're having this same exact experience. But it's not until it is revealed and it rocks a neighborhood or a
Starting point is 01:21:15 family or, you know, friendships that it's, it's suddenly, you know, in the spotlight and you have to actually deal with it, right? But that's just, that's the nature of sort of underground things that are, you know, sort of the darker side of humanity. Right. So it's, it's challenging. And and we all can relate to this. And we can all think of the person in our life right now. Who is the person if this is what you found out about them and they have played a significant role in your life like you can empathize like this would rip your life apart totally so hard that's why i'm saying grieve do and here's here's what i know you're going to be tempted to do emailer i know it you're going to be tempted to just think you're dealing with it and you're not and that's because
Starting point is 01:22:04 this is not something you completely deal with on your own now maybe he didn't mention much about his family or support system other than this, right? But, you know, having somebody that this topic is 100% okay to talk to them about. So maybe it needs to be a therapist because not a lot of people can handle it, where you can go through the feelings and the range of emotion. And you'll survive if you don't. And you can just think he's dead to you. And that's why people do this. That's why there is the, well, they're dead to me. We say that. They're dead to me. Because they cannot, they can no longer have any influence coming from that place or thoughts. It's like a shut down protective response or mechanism, right?
Starting point is 01:22:50 And that is a choice and lots of people make that choice all the time. But of course, this is me and I have a hammer. So you have a nail. Here we go. Which is, you know, to really take the time to let yourself grieve and get through that process. And then one day, understanding it a little differently might occur. So this is tricky. This question is a really tricky one for me because I know lots of guys like this.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Oh, yeah. Of course, especially with what you do. Yeah. And I don't know as many right now because this isn't my main population I work with, but I did all my training with sex offenders and I've talked to them, spent hours with them. I know how complicated their story is and their pain. And I know a part of them is disgusting and I want to punch them in the face.
Starting point is 01:23:38 And I also know a part of them are some of the sweetest, best people I've ever met. And how is that possible? Well, I was young and curious and open so I could hear it. And I had to. I was getting graded. Right? Like I was in a position that most of us will never be in. And there's plenty of therapists that can understand this as well, is that if there'd be
Starting point is 01:24:02 no one left to help, right, if we all kept it in black and white. So it's not that I think it's justified or that he's okay or anything, but I can see the segments because I was trained to see the segments or that people are segmented. We all are. And it's obviously really hard. And I don't expect him to sort of be able to get to that place. But really honoring his grief and honoring the pain that this is is going to be first and foremost. And then after that, he can be dead to you. that it's like pre-greaving the the dead like you have to let go of all of the things and letting go is incredibly difficult if you don't actually feel all the things so you're going to be angry you're going to wish it wasn't true you're going to you know etc etc there's all this just sort of stuff still to go through before you can move on to sort of seeing people as more complicated and having that story sort of be effective in helping you yeah I mean, in the case I brought up earlier, you know, with an ex-colleg, the, you know, I'm still, like, really angry at them.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I feel, I have feelings like that that haven't quite been worked out. But at the same time, I've made sure to check in, you know, just sort of see how this person's family's doing, you know, or, you know, is everyone healthy, is everyone okay, that sort of thing. Because you do get into this situation where this is a little bit different, but let's just say it's like, I don't know, a sibling or an uncle or something like that that that you were very close to and then something like this happens, you don't just in one moment lose everything connected to that person. You suddenly are put in a position of like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you did this and I, you know, you can't just, there's no justification for it. But you still maybe care about that person or you still care about the others in their
Starting point is 01:26:04 lives and so you care about them in proxy to their kids or their wife or their husbands whatever like there's just it's complicated it is once again it's so complicated it's and we're in a we live in a culture now not not across the board but there's a huge part of our culture that finds it easy just to dead drop anything right just cause them out of your life yeah just just cut it off as if it's just like the you know and and okay that's one reaction that's a way to do it. But this... I'm back to that really quick because the internet is what humans do in this sense, right?
Starting point is 01:26:43 Like, this is a natural response in an individual life to move away the complicated, uncomfortable feelings that come from an, you know, a complicated thing. And so we're just doing it in mass. And then we have each other to sort of hold virtue signal to and hold accountable for you will hate them as much as I will hate them. You will, you know, you will banish them or you are not an ally to this or that cause or whatever, right? Like that response comes because we all individually struggle with this.
Starting point is 01:27:17 And then those who can be compassionate or sort of in the middle there probably get eaten alive or don't show up, right? Because it's just not safe. So it really has, it is a reflection of who, how our brain wants this to be. We want Kevin Spacey now to be all bad because he, messed with us. He was all good first. How do you do that to somebody? Well, it's like this way to punish and this way to feel, I guess is to feel more steady in yourself, right? If he could just be all bad, that steadies me. Yeah, I got fooled by his movies or whatever. We think an actor.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Yeah, so when we don't know anyway, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like somehow we think we know an actor. That's a whole other, it's a whole other problem, right? That's a whole other subject about people. But it's an extension of us that we do in our personal lives. Right. You know, like it doesn't just show up here is my point, I guess. Yeah. I, uh, yeah, this is, this is an interesting conversation. I'm glad we got to have it.
Starting point is 01:28:16 I hope this helps at least somewhat to our rural Arkansas native and, uh, let us know how things pan out for you. Um, I do think it's important that they, they listen to what you're saying about the complexness of this. It doesn't mean he needs to go and do, you know, Tuesdays at more. he's at this this guy's jail sale and read stories to him or something it's not what i mean but you know like there's maybe there's just maybe more to the black and white tidy categories that you mention that we tend to like to shove everybody into and and some of that can just be finding
Starting point is 01:28:48 his own piece in it i don't you know i don't know yeah and let me say one thing very directed to him that is not this more general sort of idea is that i i would make an assumption with you know the the way he wrote about his parents, that it doesn't mean he doesn't love them or that they're good people, but that there have been things he has done on his own in his life that really
Starting point is 01:29:15 sort of put him in a fragile position with anybody, right? This would be different. Scott had good, loving parents who could help you it with the things or, you know, whatever. And then imagine you don't have that and then someone does this to you.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And I'm not saying, I don't know if they weren't loving and good parents. But more of this idea of like, you're more on a ledge when you're trusting this way. So your vulnerability is greater than someone else's vulnerability might be. And so to be really gentle with yourself as you navigate this because there are parts of him that were supposed to protect him from something like this. Right. That were built into his system to keep him safe. And they didn't hold. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:59 And so it's incredible. difficult. And so to be really kind with yourself as you're figuring this out, you're not a bad guy because you can't see this as complicated. I'm sure he can't see as a complicated. And that's not what we're saying at all. It's that you got to, there's like a space to move through here first before you get to any other peaceful resolution of anything. But yeah, be nice to yourself. Be good to yourself. All right. Well, let us know how it goes. And if you've got a similar question or thought or feelings, send your feedback to the morning stream at gmail.com or any question. you'd like to ask for a future therapy Thursday.
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Starting point is 01:31:23 So for the month of May, we do it. We've done it four times a year now. So like once a quarter, we all get together. and we have a series of challenges that you do four days a week and just adding different healthy things in your life. And then we do some like group therapy that's super fun and helps everyone get into the anti-diet mode and like what actually feels good and what do you need in your life. And it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Anyway, and it's all about getting healthier slowly, emotionally and physically so that you can sustain it. So we're anti-yo-yo anything. like we're just building anyway and it's been fantastic and fun and the community that has created itself is just amazing like they they meet while we're not having one they can't get enough of each other they're so cute that's great i love that yeah it's a blast it's a really good group yeah and uh so please go sign up and join us if you go to real steps dot org the very first thing you're presented with is a sign up link so just hit that
Starting point is 01:32:28 and, and you're in. So it's real steps.org. There's a link immediately in your face. Hit it, sign up, be a part of it, and let us know what you think. And if you have any questions, you can email admin at real steps. org and that'll go right to me. Oh, very nice. You're the admin.
Starting point is 01:32:45 I'm the admin, though I am not doing any computer work at all. The admin is my husband, but I can answer an email. Yep, you can definitely do that. What else is there? Yeah, what else even is there in the world? All right. Wendy, fantastic stuff. As always, I can't wait to see you guys in July.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Until then, we'll be back next week with more Therapy Thursday. Have a great week. Bye now. Bye-bye. All right. Well, Brian, you know, is a... Got heavy there. Yeah, it's a heavy one today.
Starting point is 01:33:13 Heavy. Very heavy. That's right. As you mentioned, no cover bill today. But there will be a... It'll be a core tonight at 5 p.m. Yeah, 5 p.m. Core with me and John and Bo.
Starting point is 01:33:24 And boy, how did we have stuff to talk about? I did a tweet. yesterday, and I really mean it. There are a few things. In fact, I'll ask you this. Is there a thing in real life that you don't really care to do? It's not really interesting to you at all. But in video game form, you love it.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Could you name anything like that? And I don't mean illegal things like stealing cars or shooting people. Like, about 12 of the things in Grand Theft Auto. Right. Color guy says fishing, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, I hate fishing and wow as much as I hate fishing in real life. I kind of do.
Starting point is 01:33:57 too. I don't like fishing video games. I know. I'm trying to think. Like, uh, my answer is golf. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Golf is a very good one because it's, uh, right. I'd much rather do a video game golf than go play golf in real life. Really because I suck at it. Because I'm always, everybody always wants to go to these places that are built around these really nice houses that are just on each side of the fairway. And I have a wicked slice. And I'm just waiting. for it to like zing through somebody's window.
Starting point is 01:34:30 I just know what's going to happen. I could murder a six pack of Wicked Slice back in the 80s. That was my favorite flavor. It was so good. Yeah, wicked slice. Yeah, but like, same. I'm the same. But I love video game golf all the way from like goofy Mario golf type stuff all the way up to like hardcore, like professional looking stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:50 So I've been playing, the reason I'm bringing this up, I've been playing PGA or 2K's PGA tour, 2K, 2-1, or whatever it's called. The latest golf game from 2K Sports. And it's great. It's freaking great. So I'm playing that. I'm going to talk about it tonight on core. So everyone who thought all I could do is sci-fi and fantasy.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Boy, do I have news for you at sports games tonight on encore. So check it out. There you go. Sorry, I've been drinking a zivio while we're talking today. Yeah, that's all right. It was just going to happen. Okay, that's it. We got all sorts of stuff happening this weekend.
Starting point is 01:35:26 no p.m. tomorrow because on Saturday, right after FilmSack, we're going to be doing a two-hour play date, and that'll be it. What time did we set for you? Right after film sacks, so 11-11 Mountain. 11 Mountain? We should be done right around then,
Starting point is 01:35:42 I would just say. Yeah, I think so. We're usually safe if we say, you know, because film sack is rarely two hours long. No. And I've watched the film sack movie. I don't think we're going to be talking about that thing for two hours. I'm so excited to watch Space Truckers It's great.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It is like such, it's perfect garbage for film sack. I'm excited. So there's that. And then a film sack this weekend, we're doing, like he said. 11, 11 Mountain. 11 Mountain. Okay. So that'd be 10 Moravina.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Where are you? Because you're only an hour behind us, so it'd be 10 year time. 10 year time. Yeah. So that'll be fun. We're not sure what we're playing yet. We'll figure it out. Probably jackbox stuff because I keep hearing from people.
Starting point is 01:36:22 The reason they don't like among us as much is because if they're not playing, there's no way to play as an audience. Oh, that's true. Whereas at least with, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so it's something to keep in mind. But, um, valid. Yeah, pretty valid. There's a TWBD also on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:36:36 I got a busy day Saturday. So watch for that at, uh, it's normal time to, two o'clock. Scott, pick something to eat out of your box of Japanese food. Oh my gosh. I forgot we're doing this. I like to eat. Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, uh, I'm gonna pick, uh, ozac, uh, they look like,
Starting point is 01:36:54 bag of Ozac. They look like a... Terriaki. Like, terriaki, what do they call that? Teppanaki on a stick? Yeah. It's like a... It's, what do you call that?
Starting point is 01:37:06 Other kind of places, like Arabic food is... Cabob? There you go. They're like kebob. All right, let's open this up and smell. Okay. Whiff of this, whiff of this. They kind of smell the same as all steak ones.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Yeah, I can't get it. I can't get it open. There we go. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it kind of does smell. Yeah, so these are... Nacatori? I thought it's Tepaniaki.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Tepanaki? Tepaniac. Tepaniac. Which was... Nocatory Plaza. I'll find out if Japan lets us in in January. That's right. Nakatori Plaza.
Starting point is 01:37:40 That's where... That's what, yes. So there you go, everybody. We're going to try one of these. Here we go. All right. Not really getting anything yet. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I'm getting a... strong flavor, like very I barely taste. I barely taste. That's right. Tepanyaki is like Benihanez and places like that where they do it in front of you. It is Yakutori. Yeah. Yakotori, okay. I'm not getting
Starting point is 01:38:09 a flavor off this. What's going on here? I don't know. Maybe you have COVID. One of my favorite 90s singers, by the way, Japanese singer, Japanese folk singing was Yakutori Amos. She was great. Shut up, really? You made that up. I made that up.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Because Tori Amos, see, I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah, that's weird. I don't taste anything, but here, let me drink this. Maybe this drink is killing it. The Zivia. The Japanese Beverly Hills and I, No, has an actress named Yakutori Spelling. Oh, I get all the Tories, I see.
Starting point is 01:38:43 All the Tories, yes. Yakotori Balachi on, what was that called, Mythbusters? Hey, look, Zivia cherry cola is what's killing. Oh, that's good stuff right. there. I think that's what's messing with my palate though. Because I can't taste those chips, but I taste the drink. That's weird. All right. I don't know what's
Starting point is 01:39:03 going on. Brian gives it a thumbs up, though. Yes, it does not have adult sweetness flavor. It has all the flavor. Adult sweetness. Adult sweetness flavor. They're so weird. All right. Thanks again for Tara who sent these out to us. She's awesome.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Thank you so much. We got a couple more we'll do next week. Oh, we've got a few more, actually. Lots more, yeah. Yeah, we got some kind of jerky unit. I didn't send you a broken 3D print in that box, did I? No. There's no room, man. There was really no room.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Like, that thing was so jam-packed. Ooh, yeah. What do you call those peas? Wasabi? Wasabi peas. All right, that'll be next week here on TMS. A reminder that you support us and you do so well, but we could always use more. Patreon.com slash TMS, new month coming.
Starting point is 01:39:52 So perfect time to jump in. Thanks to everybody who's already there. I know you hear me say it every day, but it's how we keep the lights on. So we've got to say it again. Patreon.com slash TMS for everything else. Frogpants.com slash TMS. Okay, Brian, let's go. A song.
Starting point is 01:40:06 You need a song. My favorite actress on the Japanese Golden Girls was Wasabi Arthur. Ah, Wasabi Arthur. All right. So Felicia Walters wrote in. Walters or Waters. Looks like Waters, actually. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Said, I wanted to request this song for my boyfriend Brandon's birthday. He's a daily listener and got me into your podcast as well. If you play this song, thank you. Well, Felicia. Hi, Felicia, first of all. Never buy. Never buy. Never buy. Always high.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Hi, Felicia. Yeah, this is awesome. This is a cover of Nirvana's heart-shaped box performed by Amber Mark. And it's got such a funk style to it. It is so good. Amber Mark is the artist. Heart-shaped Box is the song. Here is Amber Mark.
Starting point is 01:40:52 See you guys on Monday. She eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak. I've been locked inside your heart shape box. Football weeks I've been drawn into your magnetar It trap Right
Starting point is 01:41:41 I wish I could eat your cancer when you turned black But Hey, I've got a new complaint forever, rend it to your priceless advice. Hey, hey, wait, I've got a new complaint forever, rend it to your priceless advice. Yeah. Forever and ever.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Yeah Meat eating your kids Forgive no one Just yet I cut myself From an angel Hair And babies
Starting point is 01:42:48 Yeah Oh Hey I've got a new going to play Forever in there to your Christless in vise Hey I got a new complaint
Starting point is 01:43:10 Forever in there To your priceless in vise Yeah And ever, and ever. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at FrogPants.com. Ha ha ha.

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