The Morning Stream - TMS 2111: Saduchi Sapachi

Episode Date: May 10, 2021

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Welcome to the price is wrong, bitch. Devil plate. Inspector Gadget. Cutlery. Ribbler, for her pleasure. CSI, Freddy's. Racing rhinos on scooters. A disappointing hot dog meal experience.

Scientific proof of 80s bullies. Going Pepsi Clear. Mustard-flavored mail. Making things with Bill. Major spoilers and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Physical appearance counts for nothing. If he openly declares himself to be a communist, we take his word for it. Mama?

Mama Luigi? The morning The morning stream The show that lives among the beasts and eats grass Hello everybody Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Monday, May 10th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. Brian, Ibit. Hi, Brian. How are you?

Hi, Scott. I'm good. How are you? Oh, you know. Happy new, brand new week waiting for us. Thanks, man. It was a busy weekend because of all the Mother's Day business. And that's good. That's okay. You know, it's our mothers. And we're supposed to be doing that. But I don't know. War me out, to be honest. A lot of running around. We have two mothers here. We have to visit. Of course, Tina's a mother. Yeah, that's true. Do you do anything cool? I don't know, any kind of, you'd make her breakfast or anything? Or what did you do there? I did make her breakfast.

I also took her out Saturday night to, I went to a place called Super Mega Bien here in Colorado. It's a Latin American restaurant that serves, that usually serves its food dim sum style. So they walk around with carts. And you're like, oh, yeah, that looks good. Give me some of the grilled flanked state. with Tomatio or give me some of the corn cakes or whatever. But with COVID, they're currently not doing the carts, unfortunately. The food was still amazing.

And then we rented a couple scooters and we rode around rhino for a while. Oh, the little like sand, the scooters you stand on, like the. The ones you stand on, little motorized scooters. And we zipped around, we had a blast just zipping around the Rhino District River North. call it rhino for short and um and then found a place we'd never seen before and had dessert there was really cool lovely yeah in my head i saw those little um those little uh things at walmart mobiles yeah the rascals yeah little rascals yeah we were on the vertical things dude you know i like to think that i'm a um a decent cyclist and and uh i can do you know do these things

where i can take my hands off the handlebars and do something else with my hand whatever it is about these scooters and maybe it's the fact that the that your hands are so close together when you're steering them I can't take my phone out to like take a selfie while I'm riding a scooter and it's just because I think

any little movements on the handlebars really move you a lot left and right. Oh yeah a tiny twitch to left or right in your uh your head over heels. You're off yes exactly you're a fail army video that's gone viral exactly yes. You don't

that no for sure well uh ours was all right i got to see my mom and she's doing good and still still doing great after all that but here's the here's the funny thing so uh i'm gonna go to my sisters and my sister's gonna have dinner and it's gonna be great but it's kind of a dis there's a big chunk of time between lunch and dinner and we're getting a little peckish and we left early to go run the dog around a dog park and that kind of wore us out and by the time we're done we're like oh i could really just eat something you know like just something quick. I don't need anything big or whatever. Just something to get the, get the calories going.

Right, right. Something. So there's a Freddy's nearby, and I don't want, like, a full-blown Freddy's unit. I just want, you know, something small. And I kind of like their weird little hot dog, so I'm like, you know what? I'm going to have their weird little hot dog. I've never had a hot dog at Freddy's. Like, I just gravitate towards the burgers, and that's all. I mean, it's the right thing to do.

There's nothing wrong with the hot dog, but they're not known for it. You know, it's not their jam. their steak burgers are bigger, bigger deal. But I was like, I need something small-ish, and I knew that thing was small and cheap, and I'm just like, whatever, it'll get me by. And Kim's like, oh, I kind of want a chili dog. I said, well, they have those. So let's do that.

All right, so we get in line. And, of course, Carter's annoyed because she's a vegetarian, and they have nothing there that's really very vegetariany. Oh, they really don't? Oh, that sucks. Not really. I mean, I'm trying to think if there's anything on the menu. They don't have, like, a fish thing or, you know, pescatarian options, as far as I can tell. oh fries yeah we got her some fries well fries sure still sides sides don't count when you're like you know buying something for a vegetarian it's like would you like uh some zucchini

some deep fried zucchini oh my lord that actually sounds good right now so anyway she so so the concept is we'll get a combo for my hot dog but we'll give the fries to carter because she's with us and we'll give and kim will just get a separate chili dog Cool. She's thinking it'll be this, you know, normal little chilly dog, a little bit chilly on top. How you normally see it. Brian, I'd like to draw your attention to our dock where you can now see. Oh, yeah. I've seen this monster. This monstrosity. This is, didn't tumble, didn't go upside down, didn't, didn't, the bag was handed to us and we opened it pretty much immediately. There was no interstitial time where things could have gone awry. But as you can see, chat room, and people at home, I'll describe. it it's a it's an abomination it's a nightmare uh yeah it looks like somebody

died it looks like somebody ate a bad chili dog and left this in the uh exactly it's a bit of a crime scene um and it and it was immediately like oh i'm now i'm not gonna i won't deny we i went ahead and helped her eat it like we ate well yeah i mean here's the thing it's you can't there's two chili dogs two kinds of chili dogs out in the world right

Jack and Diane you know and their Tasty Freeze experience notwithstanding but was that a tasty freeze in that song

yeah sucking on a chili dog outside the tasty freeze oh yeah I don't know why that never stuck

we talked about the Tasty Freeze and how they merged with Wiener Schnitzel is that right something like that and some parts of the

country the weiner stencils went away and tacy freezer placed them or they combined or so no they combined they joined forces they teamed up to take on the you know anyway so your your chili dog your um your mellow chili dog is just going to be your

hot dog with like a little line of chili across the top yeah right just like it just enough to where there's there's nothing outside the bun and then you get the people who just want a smothered who want basically a chill a hot dog that's been smothered in chili.

And I guess the Freddy's guys, have you gotten chili dogs there before? We have, and they look fine. They were totally fine before. They're normally the first kind, right? It's what you described. Here's the irony of this thing. You know the inside where the dog is?

Like the part, okay, so there's the bun. You open it. Yeah, yeah. And you lay a dog in there. And then you put stuff on top of it. You don't see it from this angle, but if I open that up, kind of spread its, uh, yeah, open, spread the bun.

It's, uh, spread the cheese. bone dry inside? It's bone dry in there. There's nothing in there. So the chili was only on the outside of the hot dog. Yeah. So I think this person, whoever did this is just having a bad day. They were in a rush. I don't know. It didn't seem like there was very many people in line. So I don't know what the deal was, but, you know, complete, complete freak out. We ate it. And I did the little form you do that says, you know, how did everything go? And there's, yeah, whatever. So I said the thing on that said, hey, we love it here normally and always come by here when we can. And this is kind of bad, though. And I sent the picture. I said, so I don't know. Someone probably just had a bad day.

No big deal. Anyway, we'd come back anyway. You know, it's just super, super light. Of course, yeah. Man, they wrote back like immediately. Freddy's is great as far as customer service. Yeah. How was their response?

Well, let's see. I'll read it to you right now. Okay. Dear Mr. Johnson, thank you for sending this issue to us so that we can discuss it. with our team. We strive for 100% guest satisfaction, and we sincerely apologize for your disappointing hot dog meal experience.

Hot dog meal experience. I am forwarding this to our regional manager so they can follow up with their staff and use this as a coaching tool. Thank you very much for offering your business and taking your time to submit your comments and we can learn and grow. It would be my pleasure to invite you back as our guest.

If you would kindly reply to this email of your mailing address, I'd love to send you some complimentary passes on your next visit. Nice. See, look at you. You get the noodles side salad experience and now the chili dog experience. And what's great is it's not even me, I'm not even complaining. Like, I'm not even really freaking out.

I'm just like, oh, you guys should know, just so you know, no big deal. Exactly. Yeah. I'm not going to, I'm not like mad. And it's not like you're doing this with the expectation of getting anything either. No. Yeah. No, this is, people should let restaurants and places.

no, and they have a disappointing experience like this. Yeah. It's not, you know, you're not being a Karen by demanding something. You're not, you're not I want a new chili dog or something like that. I mean, you could have. You really could have, yeah. I totally could have, but I didn't. And I said to him, I even said in the thing,

I said, you know what, we ate it because it was still real good. It was real tasty. So we just forked it, you know, I had a fork. It certainly is not a car. I mean, did you guys try and eat it in the car? Yeah, and we had a, so that was, that was a little precarious because we weren't we weren't like in Sunday best or anything

but we were like looking okay for my sister's house and came out a white thing on so she's all worried about that but for the first time we got to use she okay so years ago she bought this fork knife and spoon set that's like they're made of resin and they unhooked

from the top of the handle so you've got these different heads for your handles and one's a fork one's a spoon and so on really okay and they're in this tight army knife I mean like right you just put the different the piece that you need, the inspector gadget piece that you need. That's exactly right.

That's a good comparison. And it's in this little tin, and she just has it in the car for an emergency, and has never had to use it. So we used it yesterday, so that was great. Anyway, so, you know, I was like, we ate your wiener. It was fine, but they still want to send me stuff.

I'll take it. I'll take it. It'll be fine with me. See, that's the other thing about that is, all right, it's like you can't really lift it out of the container. It's in a styrofoam clamshell for our listeners out there. Styrofoam clamshell container You're not picking that thing up and eating it over the bag too

It's all over the bag, it's on the outside of the bag Like they had a problem and didn't Oh no, it didn't get on on the fries, did it? No, fries were safe Okay, good, yeah But so you have to eat that with a fork and knife You know, there's no other way You're a little Swiss Army fork and knife

But the other problem is you're eating it on one of those Starrofoam clamshell trays which cut just as like It's just as easy to cut the styrofoam as it is to cut the weaner and or bun. Yeah. So like the hot dog part, we didn't really get to cut very much because it's, you know, tough, fake meat or whatever it is. And the bread was, but the bread was, you know, malleable. And the chili was fine. Oh, especially now that it's been soaking in.

Oh, they also, she also asked no, no onions. And there was like, it was full of onions, which is why I got to eat. I can even see one. I can see one right there on the top. So that was another thing that got weird. But, and they sounded real grumpy on the. the thing? Like, I don't know what was going on there that day. I feel, I feel a little bad about that. But we didn't, again. It's a bad member of the Freddy's team right there. I hope they're

able to get your shit together. To ferret that person out and eliminate them from the, but my whole thing was like, you know, it's fine. We'll come here all the time. We still love this place and, you know, just so you know, it's not a big deal. Yeah. So they'll talk to Chad or whoever did it. And Chad will be, you know, he'll be apologetic and contrite about it. And he'll slink off to the break room. that's right I'm going to find another job and then

five guys I think he's hiring come back to the you know go go home get his machete come back to work see this is all none of this turns out well yeah no of this is good

we've ruined it we've ruined it anyway that was a lot of fun and we'd do it again all right we got an email about Teslas because we've been talking about Elon Musk Tesla

did you watch any yeah well we always watch there in life We're, we're, even during the lean years, Scott, we watched starting alive. And last night was kind of harkened back to those lean years. Yeah, that's what I heard. I heard there was like two sketches that kind of worked and the rest of it was a little bit off. Yeah.

Yeah. And, I mean, Elon Musk revealed that he has Asperger's. And which I guess is not, you're not supposed to say that anymore. You're supposed to say you've got autism. You're on the spectrum or something like that. they're yeah there's a new way of saying it it may be even more specific than just spectrum but I'm not sure what it is but he thought

he was the first host or he said he was the first host um incorrect with Asperger's yeah Dan Aykroyd apparently I didn't know that about Dan Ayk either but yeah he uh I think everyone knew this about Elon Musk for I don't think it was a secret

but I think the idea that hey I'm the first host of it was a weird is a weird take if anybody there has any recollection of those years where Dan Aykroyd was there? Well, yeah, but Dan Aykroy didn't come back and be a host until much

later on. Oh, right? I mean, being a member of the cast is one thing, but then saying, all right, well, I'm the first host. When did he host? Was that like Ghostbusters era? Like, uh... Probably. Yeah, it was probably late 80s.

Well, um, my girl, around the time of my girl or driving Miss Daisy. Yeah. By the way, I'm all about getting rid of the Asperger's name, because I know it's named after the dude that helped, you know, sort of pioneer that. We know. Yeah, we know. But it sucks. It sucks. It's a shitty. It's a bad name. That guy's

name should have been like Williams or something. Freaking Asperger's. I know it's Asperger's. I get it, but it doesn't matter. We're all saying Asperger's. So no more Aspergers. It's already insult upon injury. Like, let these people be a different cooler name for their degree of autism and quit calling them Asperger's. All right. It's just a

bad name anyway that's all i'm saying it's just a bad name send your anyway yeah lame show um you know uh his his delivery style and this may be part of it uh just his delivery style is so disjointed and and um not conducive to comedy or not you know timing comedy is timing right and um when you have a cadence that is either caused by by autism or or just could be even social awkwardness. He's a guy who has yes men surrounding him all day long. You don't have the timing, the comic timing that you need for something like this. Yes, almost as if we should stop having billionaires be a guest host. Yeah, I'd say let's stop with billionaires and I'm sorry,

but let's stop with a majority of the sports people they bring on. There have been a couple. Yeah. Or most millionaires. How about that? Most millionaires, sure. Well, I mean, there's some millionaire comedians out there who should be on. That's true.

They've earned their stripes, though. Well, all right. He did Wario or something, I heard. Is that true? He played Wario, yeah, in the trial of... How was that sketch? It was, it was, you know what, there was some really amusing parts to it. I'd say if you're going to watch any part of Saturday Night's show, that's probably the part to pull up

and watch on YouTube. Okay. It got laughs, you're saying. People... It did get laughs. And there were enough little nods to... To funny things that would take place in an Nintendo courtroom. Mm-mm.

That's like, okay, that's kind of funny. Her Grime show... His girlfriend shows up as the, uh, as Princess Peach is what I read somewhere. Is that true? Yeah, I didn't realize that was her until the very end when they're all sitting there on the stage with masks on. And he says, I want to thank, uh, Miley Cyrus. I want to thank Grimes for being here.

I'm like, oh, that was Grimes. crimes okay cool what do marlis iris do she come out and do a song what'd she do she came out and did three songs yeah hey hey y'all i'm out she did a tribute to uh moms in the beginning all right that was pretty funny like you i'm not laughing at that i'm laughing at you and in a voice because i think you did a pretty good job this morning that's it's what i've never tried before i kind of need to uh oh yeah the mars the chad mars thing was was pretty funny Chad Marks was

Oh was Grimes the The pregnant girlfriend Dice Well she's definitely Princess Peach Yeah she's definitely Princess Peach But Yeah that would be the other thing Pete Davidson's

Probably the best thing that Pete Davidson does Is this character named Chad Who is this Disconnected millennial Who just reacts with Okay. All right. Yeah. I haven't seen any of that. I guess I'm just, I don't know. You know me. Yeah. I know you.

I'm a fair weather. I'm a fairweather S&Ler. Yeah. And this is a good time to kind of stay under an umbrella away from it. Yeah. You know. I was big. It's great. I think the whole David and David Levy. David. Oh, David. No. not David Levy, Daniel Levy.

Daniel Levy episode, I thought, was great. That was a good one, yeah. Well, there you have it. Why, David? Was his character on Schitt's Creek name, David? Yeah, why am I thinking, David? It was David. That's why.

Yeah. Yes, that's why. All right. Anyway, hey, Tesla's somebody called, wrote about. Oh, yeah, back to the Elon Musk line here. Right, yes. Mike wrote in, says, hey, there's been a lot of talk of Tesla on the show lately. I just wanted to add a few comments as the owner, or as

an owner who considers himself not uppity in any way. Well, let us be the judge, Mike. Not uppity in any way. Actually, people who claim they're not uppity in any way. Maybe they're uppity in some way. Just kidding. Is that like saying, now this isn't racist, but. Yeah, it's a little bit.

I'm not racist, but my friend is Chinese. But anyway, says I bought a Model 3 two years ago. I'm not trying to save the planet. I do not worship the ground. Elon walks on. His Twitter access should be revoked, he says. I did it because I like gadgets. I love my Model 3. It is the best gadget ever.

It also keeps getting better because of frequent software updates and adding new features. A while back on the show, Brian said a Model 3 would be his dream car. Brian, you should go test drive one. It would be good show content. You'd be ordering it online before you know what happened. Yes, I ordered mine online. Screw dealerships and pushy salesmen. A few clicks, some E-Ceasy.

signatures and wait for your touchless delivery. Love the show, dumps the rice into the thing, though. Longtime listener and patron, Mike. Well, Mike, thank you, A, for your patronage. And B, I have no problem. I want a Tesla. Are you kidding me? I don't want to, let me go on the record.

I would love a Tesla. I'm all about the future of electrics in general. That car is badass, and I would totally own one. And I'd even drive that weird ass truck they're putting out. the cyber truck yeah I'd drive that I mean it's good as long as you don't get hit with a baseball I think you're going to be fine yeah and the problem is like yeah let me show that on stage but I understand there's like you know this hesitate like if you don't like Musk or you think he's just whatever then you then you then this you know then you may want to have some stand you're like I'll never buy a Tesla I understand that and I understand why some people might be that way but I have no problem separating it like it's not a big deal to me that's a it's a big company with a whole lot of people involved and it's not just a musk joint i mean he's you know he's the weird figurehead genius man money man but and current current uh richest man in the world by the way which to me oh is

melinda does melinda gates have her eye on elan musk oh as soon as that grimes is out of the picture watch out grimes here comes melinda gates she's got a foundation she'd like to talk to you about. That's right. But anyway, yeah, it's so funny we were talking about this last night, like the personal lives of

of rich people. It's so weird. It's so weird. But Jeff Bezos, he's no longer number one. He's number two. Wow. And so if Elon,

it must sting. It must sting. And I don't understand how it's actually true. I understand Teltsa's big and successful. I understand Elon's foray into cryptocurrencies, has netted him a lot of money and I know that SpaceX

and stuff is mostly a drain on money so I don't know why he's number one right now I don't know I don't get it is it because an anchor battery charger is just $499 on Amazon while a Tesla is 38,000

it's all about the margins it's all about the margins Brian you're not wrong yeah all right no I think it'd be great I mean, and I probably, Mike, Mike is probably right on the money with his prediction that I'd go test drive it and then it'd be like, oh yeah, let's just do it. I'd probably start the ordering process from the touch screen in the middle of the dashboard of the Tesla I'm test drive. That's right.

Does this have internet? Yes. Okay, I'm buying. Yeah. Hold on. Let me finish playing this game of Space Invaders and I will order one. Right. Yeah.

I'd be super tempted as well. Part of the reason I haven't test driven one is because I'm, I don't need the debt right now. Yeah. But, man, those are hot, hot, little beast. Hot, hot, hot. Let's find out from our friend here, whether he would do it or not. Hold on. Joining us is Brian Dunaway from South Carolina,

and I would like to gauge his interest in a Tesla. Can I get you into a... What will it take for me to get you into a Tesla? What's get it take to put you into a Tesla? Yeah. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Of course I would accept a free Tesla. Are we talking about free Tesla?

No, we're not talking about free Teslas. Oh, you're talking about purchasing. heck no I did actually look into them I'm kind of in between you know it's in my area where I live maybe you're in a better place yourself but EVs really are not

quite there yet for where I live we got a lot more further distance to drive and there's not as many charging places and it's just a little more expensive right now but it's getting there it's getting there that is the thing right because the first thing I think of is like

oh I want to take this on a road trip to Vegas Yeah, my brand new Tesla going a road trip. All right, so let's see. I've got to stop in Grand Junction, charge there for two hours, and then I've got to stop in Green River and charge there for two hours. Then I'm going to stop in whatever. I don't know how any of that stuff works. Yeah, we're getting closer to it.

I mean, every dealership I went to, the last one went to drive cars, they were setting up charging places. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. And that's really good. And what's it cost? It's free. I was like, okay, okay, but what about my time? All right.

so you know it's we're getting there we're getting there we got a charging station right here next to the lake i live by and uh i think i could just use that plus i could charge at home and then if we went to Vegas or you know somewhere five four or five hours away i'm pretty sure you can get into places like that on a single charge yeah yeah um then you know Vegas is going to have charging station so yeah they'll have charging stations and i guess mac addict is correcting me uh 30 minutes to charge and then he says and the tesla will do it for you like what like a rumba like where i just say i would love that idea says go to the nearest charging station taking my hands off the wheel and let it go yeah i know it totally you had to videotape

that because you know your cat will ride it you're on top of it right yeah i don't know i feel like it's it's such a leap forward but and it's not the cheapest thing but it's not that bad either like you're not that crazy price wise work it is there and i was reading some stuff about the new Mustang and it is according to temperature can you know really affect how long I really everybody else beta test all the yeah vehicles first yeah and then you know and then I'll get there yeah I'm excited about it but yeah you know yeah you'll get there just don't just don't do like those people did recently and jump in the back seat while the car is doing it's self-driving business oh hell no right don't do that for your sake and ours all right hey we got a call around

the line to play a little game with us today. We are going to play Babel Royale, and joining us is this person. Hi, who's this? Hello, it's Paul Matisseur, Anna Krakatoa, in the chat. Oh, hey. Welcome. It's good to have you here. Fantastic. Well, you're our next contestant on the price is wrong, bitch. Uh, just going to, uh, welcome to show. Brian is going to explain the rules and how this works and what you could win. Absolutely. Anna Krakatoa. I'm going to be giving Scott and Brian a topic. They're going to go back and forth, giving me answers that fit that topic. Now, if one of them gives me a wrong answer, a repeated answer, or they take too long to come up with an answer, well, I think you all know that the win goes to the

other player. Anna Crackatoa, your job is to predict who's going to come out on top based on today's topic. Today, you are playing for a Frog Pants mystery pack. I'm going to up the ante and add a Coverville mystery pack to that as well. Double up, dude. Double up, because here's the deal. I found a whole bunch of packages. When I say Coverville mystery pack, it's a mystery to me, too. They are padded envelopes that I think we over, overassembled. I'm not opening these. Whatever's in this.

Exactly. You know what? Whatever is in there you get. And Scott's got one for you, too. So you're going to get some really cool stuff in the mail. If it could be Brian's wallet. We don't know. It could have left in one.

Yeah. I think it actually is a very good likelihood that it's got artwork from one of the two of you inside with an Andrew Allen compact disc recording. Whoa. You have the laser equipment to read it.

That's right, exactly. Anyway, none of this matters a stitch if you don't predict who the right person is going to be. They need a topic. All right, so you guys are familiar with the Toy Hall of Fame. I think we've even done a Babbel

Royale about the Toy Hall of Fame. This is over at the Strong Museum. in Rochester, New York. I want to go there, the National Museum of Play, one of these days. Now, in addition to the Toy Hall of Fame, they have the World Video Game Hall of Fame,

which just inducted four brand new video games into their Hall of Fame. Brand new entries, not brand new games, right? Brand new entries into their Hall of Fame. Got it. But they're already existing on the list. Bobby likes a number. Let's give Bobby a number.

Already on the list, there are 32 games, I'm sorry, including the new four, there are 32 games on the World Video Game Hall of Fame list. Wow. This includes arcade, console, computer, handheld, and mobile that have enjoyed popularity over sustained period and have exerted influence on the video game industry on or on popular culture and society in general. Wow. That's a pretty finite list. I'm surprised it's that small. It is. That actually is good.

You know, you can't give it to everything. For us, of course. Yes, exactly. Yeah. All right. So, all right. So those are, that's the topic, Anna Krakatoa. Who do you want to go first?

And who do you think is going to win? Wow. The tough one to pick here. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to pick Scott to win. Brian, how about you go first? Yeah.

Okay. Sure. Scott to win. Rackatoa has spoken. You have to write it down. It's like, I can't. I can't even. Oh, I, I will forget.

Was it a large fry and some, uh, right. Did you guys, do you want to supersize that? I'll, uh, right. Now, I, I, okay, so I, I, make sure I didn't miss any of the, the statements or anything. You know, there's some new ones that are coming in. We're not including the ones that just been in. We're just going with the previous ones. Are we including the ones that are, the brand new ones as well.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. All 32. All 32. 32. How long has that place been open? Is that something you can tell me?

2015 was the first. Okay, so it's a little more recent, interesting. All right. Well, I don't think you can have a Hall of Fame without putting Pac-Man in there for arcades. I mean, there was a song. I mean, come on. I mean, it's a whole summer of fever. The whole fever of that Pac-Man.

Yeah, Pac-Man was part of the very first class, the 2015 induction into the video game Hall of Fame. That's good. That's perfect. Um, let's, uh, now, this next one I'm going to say is fraught with peril because it's, this isn't like his first rodeo, but I'll still say that's already, already, uh, bending the rules and well, no rule bending. We take our, we take our bigger chances usually at the beginning for our Mulligans, but I think that one was a pretty safe. That yours is totally safe. Mine I'm not sure just because, again, well, you'll know when I say it. So Super Mario Brothers is my answer.

Super Mario Brothers, also part of the very first class, the 2015 class of the World Video Game Hall of Fame. That tells me something. Mulligans are out now. There are no moldings. Oh, they're out. I should have went with this one first then, because I'm pretty sure there's no question that every game is really just Pong. I mean, when you think about it. When you really think about it, everything is this Pong.

It's all collisions. I mean, really, that's all it is. amazingly enough you guys are still staying within the first class the first inducted class 2015 Pong was part of that first group well it was a great year 2015 and I could tell you a few reasons why but was a very good year mostly it had to do with Mad Max Fury Road moving on let's see how about we could have seen that coming no let's do um do I do that now

Yeah, I'll do it now. Let's say Doom is on there. Doom. Doom is good, yes. Also, part of the 2015 class. You're getting really good at being, you know, with the wait for it. Oh, yeah. His hesitations are freaking brutal.

It's part of my game show host training that I went to. All right. There's so many. I'm a little bit worried about this one. But since there's been some since then, I've got to say Minecraft is on there. I mean, it is ruled for just years and years worth of, right? Absolutely one of the more recent ones. 2020 was last year was when Minecraft got inducted into the...

Excellent. Yeah, there's no denying that thing. Okay, let's go back to Nintendo and say, I guess it's just the legend of Zelda. I guess is probably a legend of Zelda because that's correct 2016 the legend of Zelda was inducted into the Hall of Fame

Nice Hell's about We go to Russia and play some Tetris Oh Yes Do that 2015 another 2015 inductee Tetris part of the game

That first class of games That got inducted into the First class of games First class There's only one more that you guys haven't guessed that's part of that first class. Oh, yeah, well, those are the ones that are just Everybody's minds. I mean, you can't

forget it. How about, I'll see if I can guess that one. Probably had one of my garage. How about a space invaders? Space invaders. Space invaders, 2016 Oh, no. Not inaugural, eh? Not inaugural. That wasn't the first one. Nope, second year.

Oh. Hmm. Oh. Oh, yes. Now that makes me curious, because that would have been the one that I would have thought. Yeah.

Oh. Mm. Mm. I can't think of any more from the first generation, but I know, like, in the second generation of games that impacted everybody and changed the world, we got a little bit of a get over here, Mortal Kombat. How could that not be in there?

Yes, inspired up. a bunch of movies even 2019. Mortal Kombat was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Oh my gosh. It's going to get me on that first induction

though, that's going to get me. I can't. Yeah, now I'm nervous. I need to stop trying to hit that because... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably so. Because I'm going to screw up. Yeah, there's no extra points for getting that other

2015. I know, I feel driven to it. So, all right, I have to assume we get a little bit more modern here, although 2004 is a long time ago now. But I'm going to just guess that World of Warcraft is on there. Well, there you go. That is the other 2015 inductee. Really?

Oh, really? I wouldn't have guessed that. Oh, I would have thought later. Okay. That's telling. Yeah. I would have thought like last year they finally put it on or something. I don't know why. Yep. Nope. 2015. You guys have figured out all of the 2015s. What achievement did we unlock? None whatsoever. Well done. A little icon just came up in your game center. Unlocked all the 2015s. All right. Good.

You get some more energy tokens so you can keep playing. That's right. That's right. Exactly. I'm going to go it's been so big for the last couple of years. I'm going to go 2020 was just all about

Animal Crossing. In my Animal Crossing. Wow. This soon after release, you think you would already be in the Hall of Fame? Well, it's been around for a while. It's been an impact for a long time. I just feel like you would have a hard time not.

Well, you're exactly right. Yes. Animal Crossing, one of the brand new inductees this year, actually, one of the four that got inducted in 2021. That doesn't surprise me, given its impact last year. Right. Although I'm pretty sure without that, had it not happened when it happened during the time it needed to happen like that, I don't think it'd be on that list. I don't think so either. It was perfect storm.

We needed that. Oh, man. Now I feel like I'm in the weeds a little. There's so many games, but the ones that really impacted. The ones that really resonate, yeah, exactly. Halo, I'll say Halo. Halo. Combat evolved.

Yes, 2017. Halo got inducted into the Hall of Fame. I feel lucky on that one. I don't know why. They certainly could not have dismissed the, call of duty it's not just caller duty i'm going with call of duty any any i'm not going to explain it right i'm just going to say call of duty yeah all right call a duty not on the list oh are you serious that's you know what i'm going to say this oh but what about call of duty i said duty

oh yeah no one's not on there either no call okay that game okay first of all i just want to say for for the record brian's absolutely right that it should be on that list and here's why i know everyone's sick of the yearly updates and all that. But that game had a massive influence on every shooter moving forward from the day Modern Warfare launched in 06, 07, whatever it was. Everything since then has had to include or else you would fail in the marketplace. You had to include a progression system, RPG elements, leveling up, skins, new weapons. Like, that stuff was massive at the time, whether you like it or not.

And it's a big deal. So it should either be on the future. It should already be there. But if not, it should be added in some future. And it probably will be. It certainly will be. There are no first-person shooters on the list that I can tell. Really?

Well, Doom was on there. Or Doom, I'm sorry, you're Doom. No Quake? Quake's not on there? No quake. Nope. Yeah, for some reason, I think that's just... I don't think everybody liked Quake like we did.

I think Quake is kind of... No, I disagree, dude. Quake was the first 3D FPS that did anything. Oh, I don't disagree with you, but I know lots of gamers. I'll talk about Quake and they're like, I played Doom. And I'm like, okay. Oh, and Halo. Oh, yeah, Halo, of course.

It's not a first person shared it, right? Okay. All right, here's the rest of the list. Bejeweled, centipede. What? Colossal. I almost said centipede. You should have said centipede.

Colossal Cave Adventure. What? What? Get out of here. Donkey Kong. Okay. Final Fantasy 7. Oregon Trail?

Is that on there? Is that on there? Yep. John Madden Football King's Quest. Microsoft Flight Simulator is one of the new ones that was added this year. Microsoft Solitaire, Pokemon Red and Green, by it would have taken any Pokemon. Sonic the Hedgehog, Space War. Another new inductee this year, StarCraft.

Congratulations, Blizzard. Yeah, good job. Street Fighter 2, Super Mario Kart, the Oregon Trail, the Sims, Tomb Raider, and another new one this year, where in the world is Carmen San Diego. Really? Wow. I love that game, but that's... If it wasn't an early access, I'd put Shipbreaker on.

there because that game's great uh well all right i think we're not really talking about the games that we love as much as much as the ones that had a big influence yeah but some of those i question i don't think that uh colossal cave adventure maybe yeah what is that even i even play that one i don't even remember that one yeah i don't even know that one yeah and i'm with ice to me is that a is that a text adventure no it's a i don't know what it was was it maybe zork should be on there like that's yeah zork zorke should be there yes all right well Well, once again, this is the takeaway. A colossal cave adventure is a text adventure.

Yeah, that's why I know it from. All video game lists are full of crap. It's all full of crap. Because it's so subjective, there's no way to do it right. You just can't do it. It's true. I mean, you've got to look at what, you know, influences they had. So, I mean, maybe there wouldn't be a Zork if there wasn't a colossal cave adventure, right?

1975 or 1977. Sure. And I get that. They're going for like primordial ooze. And so Doom covers a lot of territory, for example. example, but I just think you're in trouble no matter what when you do these lists. What about Chopper Command?

Oh, dude, I love what was it, what was it called? No, what was the one Not Chopper Command? Something Chopper. Yeah. Death Chopper. Nope. What was it? It was on the Apple 2, right? It would return that same. Choplifter. Choplifter. It was also an arcade. It was everywhere, that thing. It was

great. I love Choplifter. But that ain't going to be on no list because it's It's a little bit defender in not space, but also defenders not on there, so I don't know. Right, right. Well, either way, we have a winner, guys, and that's fantastic. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. What are you going to do with your winnings when you get these two mystery packs in the house? You're going to film it?

You're going to put a tarp on everything? Like, it's a Gallagher concert? Like, what are you going to do, man? Oh, I don't know. If only I was a millennial and I could do some filming of it, but I'm 12, so I don't know. Well, I'm excited for you. All you have to do is email Brian or I. I guess just keep things consistent.

Email Brian, coverville at gmail.com, and then he'll get the info from you and pass it to me. So we both have your address. And we do not sell that to any third parties. We do not. And we'll race, Scott and I'll have a race as to who can get you a price sooner. Yeah, right now I'm a little behind on everybody. But anyway, we'll see how that goes. Congratulations and well done.

Brian Donaway. It is because of you that. he won. Thank you for that. You are welcome. You should have said centipede. You should have. I think centipede, if centipede's on there, Gallag is on there. But it's not.

Like, why? Yeah, I was trying to think of things that really changed things. But, I mean, it was really kind of a dead end. I mean, we really didn't do the little spinball things after a certain amount. So I'm like, it kind of died. Missile Command should have been on there. Yeah, I mean, should missile, as you say, Missile Command probably should be on there before. Yeah.

Before Centipede. Command to Conquers a good one, Drag. Battlezone. Battlesone? Oh, man. Anything that involved, like, a new way of controlling video games. I guess the point of it is that did they, what massive influence down the line? Mist should be on the damn list. Oh, yeah, Miss should be there.

Sure. That's defined for years. But then again, that's just a point-and-click adventure. It just looks pretty. Or it's just, you know, a different take. Yeah, but boy, did that, did that redefine, like, puzzle. Yeah, it did. Like, first-person puzzler kind of games.

Oh, good, good question. hump 23 says asteroids absolutely that should be on there oh asteroids i thought oh is that not on there did you not read it i thought you nope no asteroids that's crazy pole position no seventh guest shut up sold me at mayo so asteroids is asteroids is going to be in the minds of a lot of people how come night trap is it night trap there that's dragons uh dragon's lair should be in there what about sewer rats right is it sewer rats of course dies to me of course i want tempest on there sewer shark oh yeah jowse should be on there tempest should be on there yeah Hubert is so mad he's swearing right now that he's not on there

how many um so how many do they put in each year you said four four five they've been doing four or five for the last few years since 2015 they've got time yeah it's it's going to take a while oh it'll take forever you know how many that many games comes out in a day these days right not four i mean like 32 a day so they got a lot to do crystal castles holy crap you guys in the chat are making me hunger for old days well done oh and you can see if you go to the wiki page you can see which ones made it and which ones didn't so a lot of the ones that were saying were were things that were like missed was a finalist in 2017 okay just hasn't made it in their resident evil

we sports um we sports sports that they really yeah i mean we bowling changed no look hold on a second here's the thing though the biggest video game in nursing homes is we're totally right but if the if the criteria is it influenced a ton of future games i don't think that's true of wes that's true yeah yeah just a standalone thing golden eye been on there been in the uh list a few times yeah golden i boc yeah Nokia snake was a finalist in 2020 i mean it was the first mass market mobile game experience yeah that's true uh yeah that's fun stuff i enjoyed it hey done away you know what's great about that category is The matches up pretty well with our show that we do called The Boop Show.

However, a bit of news here, everybody. There isn't an episode tomorrow. No, sir, there's not. We got some stuff that came up and we're not able to do it. So it's a week later, you'll have to deal with a slight delay on the Boop Show. But we haven't missed a show in, like, months and months. Months and months. You'll survive.

And I'm still going to be, I'll be streaming my Boop Show homework tonight and tomorrow. So it's going to give a little extra time for doing that. So during the Boop Show normal broadcast time tomorrow night and my night. yeah and special thanks out to badger lord who donated a copy of resident evil village i will be live streaming that at some point with john jagger and uh we're all gonna die we're all gonna die so right do you just did a curiosity do you have an oculus i did i do we both do yeah why are we are we gonna play that uh that's what is it called meme what is it that board game this the thing on uh yeah the deemio deemio is it i'm i'm seeing if i can arrange something so i've got another

charity thing that I'm doing for Alzheimer's that I always do every year, usually day after Thanksgiving, but I've moved it to June and I'm going to see about maybe doing a live stream with all of you guys, you know, anyone, any frog pants producers, up to four of them

who have innocuous. I'd be part of it. I'd be down. I do. Count me in suckers. Yeah, I play that. It seems neat. It seems like a cool idea. It does. Looks really cool, yeah. Well, all right then. I think I saw that somewhere and thought, oh, that looks cool and then forgot about it and then that guy talked on twitter about it and now i'm all into it

it again so thank you twitter guy on twitter yeah that guy on twitter who's telling the truth that one the guy in twitter told the truth uh well done hey dunaway uh it's been great but now you leave and we tell people that they can find you online uh places follow that twitch channel by the way it's brian dunaway on twitch uh hard to miss b r i a n none of that y business okay yeah it's silly why business who the hell does that just kidding all the y prize The Y-Brize. We'll see you later, right. All right.

There he goes. There he goes. There he goes again. That leaves us just enough time for this. Time for the news. Brought to you by. Brought you by Soundography. Just posted a brand new episode this morning.

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Sounds awesome. I love this combo. that's cool. It's a good combo. I'm trying to remember the album you made us listen to. It was like a new age thing. It was really cool. Oh, yeah. What was that? Oh, it's left my brain. Can't think of the guy.

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Yes, with the popped collars and the guy on horseback playing polo on the chest. This is, when we were in high school, all the preppy kids wore these. I never did because I hated the look of them. But anyway, men who wear Ralph Lauren polo shirts are his real name Lipschitz. If you're wearing a Lipschitz polo shirt, you are more likely to cheat. Ooh. Yeah, that's what I was saying back then. You'll be popping more than your collar if you're wearing a shirt.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Let's see. Gone of the days are going through your partner's phone book to check his texts or going through the quasi-spy spy mission to catch him philandering. Now, there's an easier way to see if he's two-timing, according to a recent study. Men who wear extravagant fashions with large luxury logos embroidered on them. them are more likely to be untrustworthy, according to a University of Michigan study published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

So it's not just polos. It's anybody who's wearing like the big old Amber Crombian Fitch, Polo, Benetan. Any of that brandy stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You got a big embroidered brand. Yeah. Cheater.

Oh, whatever. Okay. It says here, I mean, look at me with my Park City brand. right over here right see but it's not embroidered Scott no look at you with some kind of devil plate what is that I can't read it Colorado mammoth

it looks like a plate with a devil on it it's a it's a devil colored woolly mammoth I can see it now but for a minute it looks like a Diablo guy it kind of does yeah like this is the plate right here yeah yeah it's like a severed devil head

on a plate it's where my brain goes anyway, it says Males who own T's with larger brand emblems were quote rated higher on mating effort lower on parental investment, said researchers who have a high

they said they have a higher interest in engaging in brief sexual affairs these men were also less interested in having long term and committed romantic relationships according to the study they also showed or say they are also less attracted to women who want those long term relationships compared to men who own shirts with a similar logo or a smaller logo.

Get out of here, baby. I've got a embroidered logo on my t-shirt. Well, I mean, this is more of a, this is like, hey, ladies, keep in mind if you see a dude with a big fat freaking polo dude on it, maybe, you know, just tread, tread careful. Or know what you're getting into. Know what you're in for. Yeah. You're either with a guy who's going to cheat on you. And wants just a quick, some quick business. Yep. Or you're going to be the one he cheats on.

Could be you're the one, right? So either way, you're host. Yeah. Let's see. The other purpose of the study that says, led by evolutionary psychologist, Dr. Daniel Kruger, was to determine whether men who wear flashy clothes are more attractive to women, or if women may be more attracted to men who are rich and can provide them with a stable financial future. There you go.

I had a thing going with an American Eagle Outfitter employee for a while. Great big A.E. logo. That's right. Exactly. It was Tina. And she was... Oh, there you go. Seasonal work in between the Children's Museum.

But, you know, it counts. But it just feels like it validates 80s bully stereotypes. It kind of does, right? Because this was them. This was all them. Italy, Zabka. Yep. Driving their convertible.

Volts wagons and just being dicks. Exactly. Yeah. We knew it. We knew it then. We know it now. Yeah. Congratulations, America. We did. Shirts. All right, that's it for that. We'll save the rest of this for tomorrow. We had a great story about people eating raw meat that makes them high. So we'll save that, though. For now, though, we're going to take a break and come back around on the other side with our old pal, Bill.

We've got a great question for Bill. And another fine visit from our old pal, Stephen Schlecker, for major spoilers. all of that happens, though. It is prerequisite that we play a song. It is. And let's just jump right into a Monday indie in the middle with singer-songwriter, musician producer Mark Ribler. It could be Ribler. I think it's Ribler. He's part of Little Stephen and the Disciples of Soul. Of course, Bruce Springsteen. He's also worked with Elvis Costello, Carol King. He's got a brand new solo album called The Whole World Awaits You, which comes out in middle of July, July 16. And this is actually, I think, of the second track.

the second advanced track that we have played from this. But the previous song didn't name check Amazon like this one does. Amazon delivering a bunch of crap that we don't need. Big thanks to earshot media and wicked cool records for this one. Here's Mark Ribbler, who could ask for anything more. Yesterday on the news at five What a wonderful way to pass the time Ain't it good to be alive

Now I'm sitting in a massive traffic jam On the GWB They say a fat man plan the whole thing And that beats the shit out of me But I've got my TV Got the field housewives to suit me When Amazon delivers more crap I can't afford Who needs revolution

We got the Facebook solution Just give me it 5G We could ask for anything more Guitar I drove down to the whole food store Trying to get some health into me There's a plastic island the size of Texas That's floating out to the sea

GMOs in my corn flakes Arsenic in the water's supply there's 100 cures for cancer in a million ways to die I've got my TV got the realize wives to sue me Amazon delivers more crap I can't afford In each revolution you got the Facebook solution Just give me a five jeep who could ask for anything more We're on the outside looking in fair weather friend

Does that mean the means we'll justify the end Whoa Oh yeah Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. I've got my TV. You've got the realize why it to sue me. Amazon delivers for crap I can't afford.

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We're going to get Bill up in it. I just ran teams. Hold on, close. Force quit teams. Teams? Yeah, I have a client. I have an art client that requires teams to communicate. And it's fine.

It's like Slack, alternative, whatever. It's fine. He's the only one that makes me do it. So I hate having that there. Anyway, right, right, right. Doesn't matter. Punish Props.com incoming, everybody. Our own Bill Duran.

Well, he's not ours. We can't claim ownership on the gun. We can't. We can try. Your bat caves open there, Bill. But we'd probably fail. Hey, it's Bill Duran. Bill, welcome to the show.

How the heck our? are you. Hey, doing good. Got my second poke last week. And other than a day of headaches, I feel pretty great. Nicely done. Yeah. Welcome to the, welcome to the crowd. Hopefully, this, the beginning of herd immunity side of the fence here. That's right. Welcome to the cool table. People who've gotten vaccinations. Yeah. Yeah. Finally. It took me 39 years. I'm at the cool table. Finally. You don't have to be at the car table with the other little kids eating the leftover cursing. You know what? I don't have kids and my brothers

do. So when we have family gatherings, I do still end up with the kids. I'm okay with that. I'm cool. I've got cool nephews of pre-off. No, that's where the fun is. You're not wrong to spend time there. I'd way rather spend time with those kids and any lame adults in my life. They're also

lame now. Everybody just sits around and complains or is anti-vaxy. Last night I had a conversation with somebody. I don't even want to get into it too much as I think they might listen to the show now, but it's, uh, it just got weird and I'm sick of weird, man. Just go get your freaking shots and knock it off. All right. Hey, Bill, uh, we're going to get right into it. I got a, got an email of a question for Bill. And of course, just, uh, anyone who's maybe new to the segment, Bill comes on Mondays.

And we talk about the world of making things, prop making, uh, all sorts of stuff and Bill's involved and all of that with Punish Props.com and more. Uh, here's the email that we got this week for you. This is from Kellogg Jr. Cool name. All right. Hey, Bill. A question about your process. How often do you hand draw things before you make them versus doing 3D models or computer drawings?

Thanks, Kellogg Jr. And I chose this question for a couple of reasons. One, I get this a lot about like where am I sketching first and then is it part of a digital, part of it's on paper? Like what do you know, back and forth, whatever? My answer is usually, depends on the project. I'm going to assume you were going to get a similar yet more elongated answer from you. what is your process when it comes to I don't know everything from

concept to render to print to the whole smear do you do you start with just a pencil and a piece of paper sometimes this is perfect because you said depends and the seventh word I wrote is the word depends

and you weren't talking about diapers right no sir no okay good I also quick I want to point out that I answer a lot of questions like this and I end up answering a lot of the same questions over and over again, which is fine. But the TMS crowd is bringing some real fresh questions that I very much appreciate.

Yeah, they're into it. Keep them coming, please, everybody. The morning stream at gmail.com. Yes, cool. So, anyway, I do a ton of both hand drawing and computer drawing in some way. And yes, it very much depends on the project. But I also

heavily rely on reference photos and screenshots. Those help a ton too. So I would add that as a third thing, especially, you know, if you're replicating something. Sure. So obviously, if I have a small, quick project, I'll tend to just jot that down in my notebook. Let's say I just need to cut out like a rectangular piece of half inch thick plywood.

You didn't need some holes in it. I'll just make a quick drawing so I can figure out all the dimensions. Double-check my work before I cut out that material. So that's pretty normal. If I'm going to end up 3D printing or laser cutting or using my vinyl cutter in some way, It gets drawn in the computer. Now, I might make some preliminary sketches ahead of time. A lot of times you need dimensions.

If I'm trying to replicate something that exists in the real world, I got my calipers out. I'm like measuring down to the tenth of a millimeter, make it a little, maybe a little drawing so that I can write down all of these dimensions. Maybe I might draw a couple of different views, like an orthographic projection, so I can get the, different sides of it. And then once I have that information collected, I'll go to CAD and I'll draw the whole thing

up in CAD. I'll also, I do this all the time. Let's say I'm making something like the Blade Runner Gun. I'll put pictures in my 3D view that I'm basically tracing to get all the placement of everything correct, but then I'll be taking dimensions off of either known dimensions that I found on the internet, or again, I'll have my calipers and I'll be measuring real-world objects so that I know that it's going to fit together when I actually 3D print it, because photos can be blurry and a little, a little fudgy when you're trying to figure everything out on them.

So I very frequently do a lot of combinations of real-world stuff and stuff in the computer. Sure. and combinations thereof. Like sometimes I'm mostly working from a 2D perspective I can tell you that there are times where if I need to know if I need a specific perspective

of a car for example I will have a image of a car up in the corner and I will very meticulously you know get that car shape down and then use that but then I might scan in some pencil sketches of some surrounding trees or whatever and then combine them in one digital file after that

and then uh you know then all of that gets drawn over again when i do ink and color like it's the process can be like multifaceted some analog some digital back to analog back to digital it's the beauty of the tools today as you can just kind of do whatever you need for the you know the best for the project yeah yeah and you can pick the medium that works best for you depending on the thing that you're making. So, for example, if I need to draw anything that's not straight lines, I do that with a pencil and paper. If I need anything to look kind of organic or anything like that,

I don't have a centique or a tablet or anything. I do have a tablet. I have an old tablet. I'm not very good at using it, so I don't use it. I'm like, I'll just get a pencil. I've been using this my whole life. I'm really good at this already. And then I'll scan that.

and maybe I'll trace it in the computer. If I'm going to use, let's say I'm making a foam helmet using pepper cura, which is a very specific process. But basically I'll make a very rough 3D model as a mesh in like blender. And I'll export that so it can be flattened and unwrapped and turned into a foam pattern. So that's a very specific process, but it has to be done in the computer. now lots of my projects use both drawing and computer so for example I made on my lathe I made a hellboy bullet a while back used brass and aluminum I used

metal lead than everything I started I have a replica already of that bullet of a plastic one so I took my calipers and I made a little drawing in my notebook of the bullet and then I took every single dimension I was going to need to replicate that. And I just, you know, drew the dimensions right on my, my illustration. However, the, the tip of the bullet has a very particular curve. And I wanted to nail it. I wanted to get it exactly right. So I took a photo of my reference. I put it in CAD. And then I took very precise measurements. every, let's say, millimeter of that shape

so that I could replicate it. It was really, really tedious, but I was able to take the measurements in CAD, list them on a piece of paper, take that paper to my lathe, and use those dimensions to replicate it perfectly. Interesting. Yeah, it was this weird, janky way of, like,

translating, using the computer just to get more information. I didn't use any of the 3D models I made or any of the sketches I made in CAD to, 3D print. I didn't use it for anything other than the information I was able to get from it. And that was super, super useful. There are a lot, I wish I could think

of more examples, but there are lots of little things we do day to day where, like, oh, I've got these supercomputers and amazing tools at my disposal. Why don't I just flex them a little bit and see if they can help me get the information I need. And it turns out, they totally do. Oh, yeah.

Heck yeah. And you can not, like you said, about getting all close up and doing a millimeter by millimeter measurement and just getting that exacting. That's the other cool thing about the tools we have today. I find myself on paper trying to do zoom commands and forgetting them on paper. Or undo, for example. Spread your fingers apart. Like, I can't get closer.

Yeah. I've done that. I've pinched to zoom on a piece of paper before. I tried to command or I tried to command Z once and just went, what are you even doing? just draw the commanded z buttons on your piece of paper just to make you feel good when you hit it it's really obnoxious but but yeah like you once you get versatile in any of those tools you can just combine them in such a way and get just as nitty and gritty as you want to or not you know it just depends on how obsessed you are I guess but but something something else I'll do with like I said

with reference images is I will I have a photo of myself standing in like a like a find pose for an animated character with a ruler next to me. It's like an 18-inch ruler that I use as reference. So in that photo, I'll drag an image of a prop from a video game, and I'll scale it in Photoshop so that the prop looks like it's the right size for me. And then I'll go to the ruler in the photo. I'll laso that thing, copy it, paste it a couple times to make a longer ruler. and literally in Photoshop

I hold it up to the screenshot to see how long the sword should be or whatever it is. It's a silly weird process but it absolutely works. Oh, that's brilliant actually. Yeah.

Yeah. So if you're thinking about making props or costumes, just get a picture of yourself from the front with your arms out like you're a 3D model that hasn't been rigged yet. And with a ruler next to it, take that photo

or have someone take that photo for you and then you can use that to help scale scale things. I do that all the time. It's a great idea. You also, by the way, just a side note, it's kind of related. Don't be afraid to get in the position you're trying. Like, if you're trying to create a character, don't be afraid to take a picture yourself in the mirror in the position you're trying to do, create your own reference photos. Yeah. Because it's really good, it's a really great way to connect your brain to both the physicality of what you're trying to portray and the weight

and the balance and the composition and also just having a reference photo. You can go find any reference photo of somebody swinging a bat or punching somebody or whatever. But if you do it yourself, it connects you in a way that just, I think, comes out better. I even did this picture of Wario over the weekend, Wario from the Mario universe, golfing. And it's based on me standing in the mirror where I'm not showing this photo at anyone, but it's based on me in a mirror. And it helps. It helps me to do this. So when you see that picture, imagine me all hunched over with my golf club looking in the mirror because that's why that's out started yeah and i'm not showing a chat room to quit asking uh the last thing i have here is that for me this is just for me specifically but a lot of other

people do this too um almost every drawing i do ends up as either a two d vector file or a 3d file so that i can share those as print files or as patterns with an unlimited number of people on the internet um so while any of the hand drawings i do almost all of them get scanned into my computer and then I'll trace them in in inkscape or illustrator. And again, that's so that I can feed that vector file into my laser cutter or someone else could feed it into their laser cutter and cut stuff. Or they could print it out to make their own foam thing or they can 3D print their own thing. So anything I do gets put into the computer anyway.

And it's not a bad idea if you want to make sure those things last forever and anyone can access them. Well, you're a Sherry kind of guy, you know? That's true. Yeah, true. Putting it out there for the world, not keeping it all to yourself. I admire that. That's awesome. All right.

Well, great answer to a great question. Again, Kellogg Jr. or whatever your real name might be, people like him should keep sending us emails, the morning stream at gmail.com. Bill, before you leave, you've got some sort of bonus link, is my understanding. Yeah, I got a good one today. This is a musician named Andrew Huang, and he's doing some. something super fun. I just found out about this a couple days ago. He's got a really fun story

he's doing on his YouTube channel where he is going on a mission in a spaceship. And he has a... He's going on a trip in a giant rocket ship. He's ridiculously good spaceship set. Like, it's wicked good. He cuts between CG and him filming wherever he's

filming it. Oh, this is great. Isn't it? He's got a flight suit. It just looks... He's a set maker. That's really cool. This guy's a nerd. I want to be him.

Is that the starscape behind him? Is that like a video screen that's slowly? Yeah, probably. So he's, the great thing I love about this is that he's absolutely leaning into the fiction. He doesn't doing any behind the scenes. He's not, he's, this is, he's decided for the next couple of months, he's going on a space mission. Gotcha. And I love that.

Look at the hallways and everything. Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh, dude. Shut. I know. I want to figure out how he's done it because I got to bet he's got it. Oh, the cockpit even. I know.

He's got to have like four or five of those hallways that he can like maybe rearrange. Yeah. Takes up a lot of room. Like Jamarquai. Yeah, I know exactly. Like, but if you set this up in your basement, whatever, right? It's like, yeah, of course I'd want this. Did he make this space room in my basement?

Did he make this suit? I don't know who, who did most of the fabrication. That is definitely some expert A plus foam smithing on that suit, though. let me tell you it's incredible the helmet with the lights inside yeah i'm embarrassed and yeah here's the thing that he doesn't even the focus of the video dude's a musician great so he controls it with a keyboard controls it with the music keyboard yeah yes uh so later in this video he samples sounds from his spaceship and then turns them into a song using only his cell phone which i didn't know you could do now apparently you can it's amazing that's i've seen this app somewhere somebody was

using this uh that's great this is this is the cross section is so much or the intersection is so much creativity and i am here for it yeah i feel like my wife my wife my wife my life my life has been a waste i needed to do what this guy's doing yeah good lord all right well that's fantastic uh well done uh bill der rand everybody he is punish props on build a ram which you can find at punish props dot com of course over there on youtube is the channel punish props and you can find them on twitter at chin beard bill have a great week. See ya. Bye now.

He says see ya in kind of a jury kind of way. And it always throws me off. You almost want to do the Duran will now retire. Oh, we should add that. Why not? No, no. It's a bad idea. The jury will now retire.

I try to do it. The Duran. The jury will now retire. Okay, sort of worked. Well done. Wow. It was almost like you stitched that together with a professional audio editing program. Yeah.

It's like you wouldn't know. Oh, the difference I had it not pointed it out. It's kind of like that new intro that Mike Moorheim did for the instance. Have you heard this? This is so dumb. I play this all the time here. It's so dumb. Here you go.

Hi, I'm Mike Moorheim from Dreamhaven. And you're listening to the instance. I have heard that. That is great. Yes. Well, I'm never going to get him to do it again, probably. So, why not? It's got to edit it.

All right. Oh, Bill. I'm sorry, Stephen on his way. That's who's coming. Steven Schlecker. Stephen, whoops, Major Spoilers is the correct name. All right, here he comes. So get ready and enjoy the following intro, which will begin as soon as I find it.

Where did it go? Here it is. Stephen Schleiker. Stephen Schlecker. Welcome to the program, One, Steven Schleiker from Major Spoilers.com. Hello, Stephen. Hello, Scott. Hello, Brian.

Hello, Stephen. Good to have you here. How goes the painting of those X-Men or those Markers? powerful united figures good i got uh hulk and she hulk done uh this weekend i'm trying to group characters together that use the same paint colors um so that while one is drawing or one you know one layer is drawing i can work on the other one and i've got this really cool you know what let's let's show it off on screen give me five seconds all right sweet let's see how we're doing we got all the green has been used now because all the hulks are done yeah green lanterns next chat room says that's

good idea get all the greens out yeah no no green lantern into Marvel. No, green. Oh, that's right. It's with Marvel stuff. I'm not thinking. But yeah, go ahead and flip over to DC. Get your lantern, get your arrow.

Oh, man. Yeah. I kind of wish, I kind of wish, come on, would just bite the bullet and say we're going to use the same system, but we're going to use it for the DC universe. Yeah. And just do the exact same thing. I agree. I would love the basic stuff.

First up, Hulk, Hulk smash right there. All right. Oh, look at him. Oh, it's very nice. Nice and shady. Yeah, that's good. I like, I like your shading on there. I did the shading.

Yeah, I did multiple different greens and, like, actually, I had highlighted green. Same with She-Hulk. Nice. Nice. Look at her. She's doing, she's practicing law and kicking ass. She is, exactly. Where's her briefcase?

So this is the device that I use, or this little handheld thing. And right now, Mysterio's on there. He's just been primed. He hasn't no paint yet on him yet whatsoever. So he's Mysterio prime. I got it. Okay. Mysterio prime, exactly.

But you'll notice on, so he's blue-tacked to a, uh, 12-ounce bottle cap right like you get your your coke zero comes in and what you do is you unscrew this and then you can put another character on there and that way you can keep um like you can let this guy dry and have one the hobby handle yes exactly one one little do so what's with the thing up there yeah what does that this yeah this is cool so when i'm painting you want to to keep from being from going like you're all over the place yeah you want your hands and the model to be one unit. Okay.

So, you know, sometimes when I'm painting, I'll put my wrist against that, and that way I can get like a very, you know, clean lines and stuff. And sometimes you want to have that ability up here too. So like you can. Oh, it's steadies it. I get it. You rest your hand against it because otherwise you're like, you know, you've got two loose objects that you're trying to match up.

Oh, that's great. That's a really cool idea. It's brilliant, right? Yeah. Is that 3D printed? that, right? No, I didn't. I bought it. It's a hobby handle. Oh, it looks through you printed. Clark Moore is a person who let me know about this. And as soon as he told me about it, I'm like, oh, I'm buying one of these. It's brilliant. So right now I've got the entire Sinister 6 sitting on

different bottle caps so that as I paint them, lots of purple and green on those guys, I can, you know, just let Sandman dry. I'll pop Mysterio on. I'll use that same green from from half of Sandman's shirt to be his color and then I'll take him off pop the green goblin on there, et cetera, et cetera. Love it. Yeah. Interesting. You know, the primary colors that you see a lot in villains, especially in Marvel, are purple

and green. Yes. Yeah, what's the deal with that? Is that an old well, because your primary colors, red and blue, are used for your superheroes. Yeah. And so you've got something. Yeah. Superman. And your Captain America's. I guess back in the day, the color process was a simpler one and much less. I never even thought about that, although Hulk breaks the, Hulk is purple and green. He breaks the, it breaks the deal. But initially wasn't, Hulk was gray, and he was a villain, at least in the first issue, he was gray.

But he was kind of considered a villain. Nobody knew what he did. He came out at night when the moon was full. It's true. It's more like that new immortal Hulk run. It's a little bit, the early days of Hulk is like that. Yeah, they're taking it back to that. You know, his costume kind of sucks?

if you're painting a little miniature of him, a frickin taskmaster. Why does this guy have a white costume with like bright orange and bright blue accents? You'd think that he'd like be wanting to be a little bit more stealthy. I don't know, like a little more, you know,

be able to work behind the scenes. But no, he's like picked the brightest possible colors that he can have. What's going to be the easiest figure to paint, do you think? Yeah, I was going to say. Venom? Venom.

Yeah, I'm going to say. Venom or carnage, right? Daredevil is going to be pretty damn easy. Like, just dunk in red paint and Daredevil is done. Speaking of that, you see that trailer there, Stephen, today? For Venom 2? No, I haven't. For Venom 2?

Oh, I saw that it had come out. I hadn't, I hadn't seen it yet. Well, wait, go ahead and we'll take him in here. What is it? Venom 2, uh, let there be carnage. Let there be carnage. Or there will be carnage or something. It's got a Woody from Match.

He's got Woody in there. Is this carnage? Yep. That's right. And, uh, he's in there. Good morning, Mr. Venom. Or not, I meant, what did I mean? I meant.

You said mash. Cheers, is what I meant. Hey there, Woody. Yeah, he, he's good for that character. I'm totally down with it. It's weird to see him so much hair, though, because he's bald and everything. And now suddenly Woody has a bunch of new hair, but whatever. Yeah, I'm excited except, I'll just say this.

And this is, you know, it's a trailer, so it's not much to spoil. But they're, them leaning into the jokiness of there's a symbiote in me and it's talking trash and making breakfast for me while I'm tired and har, har, har, I don't like that part of Edom. And I think the comics do that stuff a little bit better or maybe it just translates better to comics, but

that looks pretty good. It doesn't look like we're deviating too much from the first one. Right. And he's Carnage, if my memory serves, is like a serial killer, right? And gets a hold of some weird part of the symbiote,

but I didn't know it had something to do. Well, the trailer implies that on his execution bed where he's the injection is somehow mixing with symbiote blood and then now he's what carnage is I don't know I don't know what they're doing here and I don't know enough about the character's

origin of the comics yeah it's funny Venom I followed pretty well carnage carnage hole and all of the symbiotes like oh none of the none of the names but there's like the yellow lady symbiote there's the

there's like a red one besides carnage. Anyway, I can't... All the spin-off symbiotes? Yeah, exactly. I haven't followed any of those, so I don't know the backstories. Yeah.

Well, then you're totally out of the loop for the current null storyline with the planet of the symbiotes and everything coming to Earth. I am. It's pretty cool. It's a cool series.

I know about anti-venom. Oh, good. Is that still MacGargum, Gargan? Scorpion? Scorpion. No idea. No idea.

I have no idea. All right, fine. But I can tell you this. Anti-villain, Venom really should have been Aunt May, right? Yeah. Oh, right. Oh, man. Missed Opportunity.

Yeah. She'd look great in the suit. Anyway, well, that's great. Catch Venom, too. In theaters coming soon, everybody. Only in theaters, they say. Only in theaters. All right.

Yeah, they didn't give a date, which I thought was on. Yeah. That's fine, though. Stephen, let's talk about a couple other things. Okay. You were talking about Reckless from Phillips and Brubaker. I've been hearing good things about it. this. Tell me about this.

Here's the thing. I'm a big fan of Sean Brubbaker or Sean Phillips and Ed Brubaker. Ed Brubaker writes a lot of really kind of hardcore kind of stuff. Crime stuff is kind of where he excels at. And I didn't realize that he and Sean Phillips had released a book, a series of books called Reckless. And it's about a former FBI agent who was deep undercover during the Vietnam era who got a little bit into deep. And then he got kicked out of the FBI. So now he is a, if you've got trouble, you know, and if you can find him, you can hire him to take care of all your problems. So it's set in the 1980s.

And, you know, if you are a fan of like the MacBowlands or the executioner or the Punisher or Jack Reacher, then you're probably really going to dig this Reckless series. The first one came out in December of last year. It's just called Reckless. The second one came out at the end of April called Friend of the Devil. And it is really good. these things just kind of take you back to that time where I don't know if you guys read those those crime pulp stuff in the 80s when you were younger but man this just feels like it's ripped right out of that that era and that style and the art is fantastic and I cannot recommend it

enough for people who are into this stuff the problem is apparently you know with image comics anything that you release through them is usually a low print run because you as the creator are essentially taking the biggest risk and these things are selling out so quickly I guess they can't keep it in stock so if you can get it grab a hold of it but really really good stuff the friend of the devil basically takes the satanic panic and the B-movie industry and kind of

smashes them together in a case of missing woman that has been missing for like six or seven years I'm totally my jam I'm going to get this I thought Brubaker was all busy with that criminal series or was it criminal he I mean he does I mean, he does a whole bunch of things, right? But his latest thing since the pandemic was, he was just going to start into this new series.

The one that he, that was most recent, was Pulp, which is about an aging pulp writer who writes Western Pulps in the 1930s and decides that, you know, he's about to die and he's broke. And he's like, well, time to go back to what I originally used to do, which was being a criminal in the old West that I've been writing about all this time. it's very good as well so if you can get the pulp trade paper back which came out I want to say in I want to say it was last year I know we talked about it earlier this year on the morning stream but it's really good

as well and it's it's Western meets mobsters kind of thing I'm super into it oh yeah here it is comicsology has the entire well it has nine let's see how many books yeah the criminal stuff is long because it kind of follows this family and this organization through

many time periods and and storyline so that's really good um but uh yeah criminal is really good and pulp is awesome and now this reckless series just seems to be you know knock it out of the park kind of stuff that's great i'm super glad to see uh more brew baker business i'm a fan as well so that's good well and here's something else i think that's perfect for you scott comes out this week it's on comicsology originals it's hailstone and so the premise of this is it's the civil war in montana in the winter and these there's a factory a munitions factory that the union soldiers have built in this town but the town is starving and they're kind of closed into this valley area and they can't get out

and people are disappearing one by one and they have to figure out what is killing the villagers or you know making off with the villagers and so the sheriff goes out to try to find what's going on this is a five-issue miniseries it kicks off probably tomorrow morning on comicsology originals We've got a sneak peek of it over at major spoilers.com. It's kind of a weird western, but, you know, not in the American Southwest, where we think most westerns are set, but up in the northern areas, in the Montana. So if you like that portion of, what was it, Red Dead redemption, then you're going to, you're going to love the northern part of the story. I think there's a windigo. I think that's what it is.

They kind of say it's a weird Western, but I think it's a window is the monster. So, the comicsology originals lately have been pretty strong. There's been some good stuff in there. And I'll be happily reading this, probably this week, actually, because I've been looking for more on there. But my biggest problem with comicsology right now is when you wish lists something that basically means, hey, go over to Amazon and buy it. But it doesn't actually add it to any list that I can find on Amazon.

Yeah. So I don't know why that's under your, it's under the thing. Like if you go under your name, you see my lists. Yeah. And then there's nothing there. It's not added. Yeah, but are you doing it on comicsology? Because, like, comicsology should have a list as well.

Well, I'm on comicsology, and it's supposed to, I did that whole thing where they have you tie in your Amazon account now that they're on by each other. And so when I go add wish list and then I go to Amazon and look at my list, it's not creating on the list there. Oh, that's weird. So it must be me. It's bugging me, though. It's pissing me off. Anyway, I'll check that out. That's a fantastic recommendation as well.

And then also, Paper Girls come into Amazon with Alps. Ali Wong in the lead. How do I know this series? I've heard of Paper Girls before. So Paper Girls is a series, again, I think this is another image comic that came out. But it's about a series of paper, paper delivery girls. This is set in the 1980s. And the four of them get caught up in a war between two factions of time travelers. And they have to sort things out. And so Ali Wong plays the older version of one of the girls that's already been cast in the series. When it came out, it's got a lot of, got a lot of praise when this comic came out. I want to say 2015, 2016, somewhere around there.

But it's Brian K. Vaughn. So if you're a big fan of Why the Last Man and also that other one that you guys are always going on about. He did. So he did Why the Last Man. He did Saga. Some of the best freaking comics I've ever read. Like you just saying that, I'm sold. I'm just going to watch the show.

An art by Cliff Chang, so definitely it's a fun series to check out. We'll be reviewing it soon on the Major Spoilers Podcast. But they're just announcing all of the main cast members for Paper Girls. So it'll probably be next year before we get to see it hit on Amazon. I've yet to read a Brian Cave-on book I didn't like. Yeah, his stuff is always really good. Yeah, I'm just in. A couple of recommendations this week for everybody.

So good. All right, excellent. Allie Wong, that's an interesting call. She's like a comedian lady, right? Yeah, she's done a lot of comedian comedy work with Amy Schumer and some of the other. She did the Always Be My Maybe with Randall Park. Oh, right. Yeah, that was cute.

I think I think I had that as a recommendal. It was really good. You saw that one? Yeah. It seems all right. Okay. Well, Ali Wong, we look forward to seeing you delivering papers soon. This and many more stories available at major spoilers.com, as always.

Stephen, is there anything you'd like to mention this week? Oh, yes. This week on the Major Spoilers podcast, we are taking a deep dive into Star Trek crossover events in comic books all this year. So we've already done Star Trek and Green Lanterns. We've already done Star Trek, and I forget what the other one was, Transformers. And this week we are doing Star Trek meets the Legion of Superheroes. Oh, my Lord. So, yeah.

Oh, we've got Star Trek versus Planet of the Apes coming up a little bit later in the years. Really? Yeah. Star Trek is crossed over with everyone, including the X-Men way back in the day. The X-Men, yeah. Well, back in the day, that's interesting. It was weird because you got Patrick Stewart playing both parts. It was weird.

Captain Picard. Professor X. Funny seeing you. Why do you look so familiar? Weird. So why is that, though? Why is Star Trek so ripe for this? Because it's true.

IDW publishing, well, because they've done, you know, the mirror. Mirror Mirror Universe episodes made it really possible for them to cross over into a bunch of stuff. And plus IDW has just been doing such a great job with both Star Trek and their crossover events. So they've done Doctor Who, which we've already done as well with Star Trek. But it's just a great property to just keep crossing stuff into. And they're able to get these licenses and get permissions from both groups to say, hey, we're going to trust, you can trust us to do these stories. And, you know, they're nothing that, they're nothing groundbreaking. But, you know, If you're a fan of the green lanterns and you want to see how the Green Lantern Corps, which is a military organization, deals with Starfleet, which is a military organization, and they're dealing with Borg and they're dealing with, you know, zombie lanterns, the black lanterns, you know, that's a kind of an interesting kind of take on, on how these two different groups of military organizations deal with with problems.

Right. I'm looking at the covers of some of this. It's funny, they're going with the likenesses of the cinematic JJ Universe start. yeah yeah but occasionally they will do like in the dark doctor who one they did one where it was the fourth doctor and the animated uh star trek series oh so you had kirk and and mccoy and those guys in that one wow that's kooky yeah yeah perfect that it's in it's a two-dimensional comic book because that series that barely moved almost like had no animation calling it animated has always been a bit of a stretch it's like star trek the animated series it should say barely animated. It's just moving, just barely.

But anyway, that's an interesting choice because I figured it'd be like, I don't know, maybe even nondescript-looking Kirk. Like, don't have to pay anybody their license fees. They do have some pretty good likeness rights for the Star Trek stuff. But there are other things that IDW hasn't been able to get likeness rights to. Some of the Doctor Who characters don't look quite like the Doctor Who characters.

But, you know, they do a pretty good job. And every series is different because sometimes it literally looks like they have taken stills from the TV show and just painted on top of them. And other times they go all out and have really good artists come in and do some amazing stuff. So, yeah, it's interesting when those two crossover. So yeah, this week it's Star Trek meets the Legion of Superheroes. What else is coming up this year? We have Star Trek X-Men as already mentioned. Star Trek Transformers 2.

And let's see, what else? The last of the year, Star Trek Planet of the Apes is how we wrap up the year. That's fantastic. Well done. Everyone dealing with that property. That's odd. Yes. Diana, our rarity in the chat, just wanted to revive the Guy Gardner hate and says, I want to punch Guy Gardner.

Everybody wants to punch Guy Gardner. Yeah. He's, I like him, but I don't know what's wrong with me. You know what? I would hate him in real life. He's kind of a dick. He's a huge dick, but there's something about his, him being a lantern. I don't know. It works for me. I don't know what it is. I like him.

Well, nothing says if you're a dick that you can't be a green lantern. You just don't show fear. So, you know, if you're a jerk, jerkwad and you show no fear, then sure. Go ahead. Be a jerkwad green lantern. Yeah. Do what you got to do. All right. Well, that is going to do it. Of course, major spoilers.com, as always, the place to go. And you'll get more content like this, including great podcasts and everything else. Steve and have a great day and wait

we're supposed to remember something right stay hydrated everyone that's what it was drink Brian drink I will I'm gonna have some right now I'm hydrating with some coffee which is mostly water did you know did you know that Dr. Pepper Zero Sugar

which I have a can of right here did you know that it if you spill it on white things oh no stainage? Look at that oh yeah why that's dry now Artificial caramel coloring. Just make it clear like Zevia.

I don't care what color it is. I'm with you. The one thing you really don't care about anymore is, like, what color your cola is. Yeah, I really don't care. Like, I'd never know anyway. Could you imagine, though, going to the store and saying, like, every flavor of Mountain Dew is just clear? I know. And I know it's a marketing thing.

You kind of need that. Yeah. It's a marketing thing. I get it, but still. It is. It's really annoying. It's also, it's also easy when the. the server comes back to your table and says,

can I get your refill on your, what is that, Coke? No, I have water. Thank you. Yeah, no, it's a 7-up. What are you talking about? I have a Pepsi Clear. Anyway. It's you who.

What are you? What are you? What are you? Not Pepsi Clear. What was it called? Crystal Pepsi. Is there a Pepsi Clear? Hold on.

I don't. Why does that sound familiar? I was going to say, no, but you've been able to Google things that I've said didn't exist and find him so. What the hell? I think I've made it up. Yeah, I think I'm thinking of Crystal. Because there is a, there's a common Google search for Pepsi Clear, so I'm clearly

not the only one. Yeah. But it comes up with Crystal Pepsi. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. Zima. Laura Varel says Zima. Zima. It is like soap.

It was like soap. It was super soapy. Why? Why was it soapy? I don't know. It was just a bad flavor. That's real bad. Had a bad flavor profile?

with, you know, some horrendous mouth feel. But I had an earthy bouquet. And the deep umami influence. There you go. Umami, the thing we all use on the AIE Guild to get into the freaking chat room. That's right. Anyway, we're done.

That's the show. We hope you enjoyed it. We've got stuff still. Oh, that's right. I got two more things. Look at this one. Like this one here, a mashup from Jamie.

Listen up for everyone. It's called, uh, I got you. Okay. I don't know if this is like Cher and Sunny Sort of I Got You Babe sort of thing Or is it split ends or I don't know, it could be anything But we're gonna find out now together

As we play it, here you go Take your wife or somebody like you Try it again Take your wife or somebody like you Is that wrong? Somebody you like How am I doing that? Let me do that one more time

Your word likes you. Here we go. Hold on. This show is so gay. Exactly. I can see why you like it. Shove this Kit Kat up your ass. Yeah. Ass Kit Kat. What do I have to hide?

Just my weaner. When you're done, uh, see you here. Yes, when I'm done masticating? Yeah, when you're done masticating, massacation matters. I got the vagina. What else is left? I got the serum, the vagina. I need boobs.

You're a wizard, I'm a wizard. Good. Oh, good to know. Boot straight to the anus that person got. Straight to the anus. Shove your nose in that bag. Yeah, it's a little wafty. Damn.

With bone dick. Bone dick. Whoa. Could you help me. I'm playing a game of Animal Crossing on my switch, and I'm trying to click on things. It's really hard to use the joystick. Do you have any suggestions?

Yeah, you need to undop your switch. You'll probably get it and do some experimenting. I'll play around with it. Have some fun with it. Yeah. There's a leech on my crutch, Corey. Well, it used to be called the Paw Emporium. Oh, my gosh, dude.

Shut up. The vowels were replaced with little paw prints. Oh, that's just a horrendous idea. I hate it. I felt like Tony Soprano. Oh, hey, Carmela. Hello. Oh, Carmela.

I'm going to go down to the garagoo to the bar big. Here, I enjoy this. This is your anus. Okay, there's your anus. You anus. You anus. There's a pig anus? He'll lick it.

What happened to your anus is a useful thing indeed? Oh, my gosh. I don't have that. What? How is that not in here? I bet that was from my old, that hard drive wreck of 2012 or whatever. Oh, man. What a bummer.

I know. I got you! Our anus is a useful thing indeed. The anus gives relief in time of need. We all have an anus. So no matter what you've heard, remember that anus is the proper word. I don't think I've ever heard the full song before. I've heard it, but I cut it up.

But I only use that one bit on the show. And Jamie, and now I understand he was referring to. too, because yesterday is like, I'm going to do something kind of fun, but I need you to find me, some kind of clip that says, I got you. And so that lady going, I got you is for me. And now I get it. He found the thing we couldn't find. Well done, Jamie.

Well done. It's very good. All right. Hey, look at this, guys. We're going to eat some Japanese things. Look at this. I like to eat. We got these things here.

Wasabi macadamia nuts or a bag of nothing that I can't read. Hold on. Oh, let's eat the box of sticks. Oh, yeah, box of sticks. We're eating this box of sticks here from Tara or Tara. Terra. Terra. It's still Tara.

Okay. I can't remember if we figured that out or not. I want to say, just like Terra Firma, but maybe she doesn't want me to use that. Oh, yeah. Terra firma. No, it's not pocky, but I did just send Scott the Google Translate. And it's another brilliant one. It's another fantastic Google Translate.

I'm looking. Uh, here you are. Uh, let's see here. Oh my gosh. Mayo Letzel. Yeah. Uh, central network only. Central network only.

Uh, Ocina, Okinawa Prefecture Island pepper use. A mellow taste. When you use it, uses 15% of island pepper, but only when you use it. But only when you use it. My favorite thing is two-pass. the photograph is an image these are great translations yeah I like just the giant word mayo hey jury I'll like that you should save that for him he loves the he loves the mayo I'll save the second pack for jury oh Brian I'm worried about your

battery life you're like below half scaring me there a little bit on your phone oh yeah I don't know why I'm on a I'm sitting on the charger weird oh it's not maybe it's not or whatever. Or no, you have the little locky one, right? Yeah, I 3D printed. It's the MagSafe. Yeah. There we go.

Now it's charging. Must have been just off center. All right. So here's the sticks. The sticks. I'm pulling a long one out. Ooh, they're like... Okay.

But... Meo sticks. They smell like... Maybe mustard. Which is ironic because it's... Yeah. Yeah, actually it does. It smells like...

It's a mustard stick. Like honey mustard pretzels. Yeah, which I'm always down for her. So let's give these a shot, too. Looks like I'm about to take your temperature. Bend over. Yep. This won't hurt a bet.

Oh, these are delightful. Just fine. You can really taste the mayo and island pepper. Yeah. You know what? That's pretty good. Mm-hmm. Why are things like this good in Japan and not here?

Yeah, no, no. Oh, boy, it's a nice little spice on the, on the back end, on the finish. Yep. That's what I always said about the last spice girl. A little bit of spice on the back. It's a spicy ending is what that is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Those are quite good, for real. Mm-hmm. I'm going to eat those all. Yep. Well, there's only six in a bag. Yeah, it's not too big. I won't eat both bags. I'll save a bag.

Right. Save a bag for jury. Yeah. I'll save a bag for jury. Save a bag for the morning. after. Save a bag for the morning. That's the song, right? That's the thing. Save a bag for the morning after. Oh, that. Different song. Dere and Duran. You're thinking, there's got to be a morning after. That is the one I'm thinking, right? Which would be. The Poseidon Adventure, the love song from the

Poseidon adventure. They should use it for the morning after pill. I should do it. Right? That should be a thing. How come somebody, you tadpillers need to come up with a post-TMS show called The Morning After. Yeah, do it. And you recap the things that we talked about on this episode. You guys used to have one like a Tadpool podcast. I'd subscribe to that. Yeah, I'd listen to that.

That'd be all right. The morning after. What's this file? Something's in my thing. Hold on. I saw the biggest bullfrog this morning. All right. I don't know what that's from.

Came up when I tried to search for more. morning after. Anyway, hey, that's the show. We're done, and that is because of you. Yeah, that's right. You guys support us here at patreon.com slash TMS without it. There's no show. And we're in the middle of an early part of them, new month, which means time to get in has never been better. Get all the benefits and reasons why at patreon.com slash TMS. And for everything else you might be looking for, it's at frogpans.com slash TMS. Or just check out frogpans.com. All the stuff's there. And you can check it out. Brian, anything show-wise going? on today? You got anything?

Um, I mean, you mentioned soundography, but I can Yeah, soundography just got posted. Uh, going to be recording, not recording, going to be meeting with the A&P guys to figure out the next steps, like the next thing we're doing. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, no, uh, no, it's really just going to be me working on an 18 panel landing page from hell. That sounds like fun.

Oh, yeah, you were talking about this the other day. I was going to ask how that was going. I got my crappy thing done Friday, but today is full-blown. Today and tomorrow, big-time production days on the Kickstarter. Oh, yeah, rock runners. Woo. Yeah, tons of art output, a bunch of other stuff. I will keep people apprised and put updates and probably do a new video and some other stuff.

So watch for that. Okay, that's going to do it. Let's get out of here. Music, I see music. Is there music? Let's do music. There's music. John Fields filled out the,

uh the form for this date uh four times but use the exact same text what so like and there were days and days and days apart but he really wanted me to play this song on this date although he he actually scheduled it for yesterday which is you know the day we never do a a tms pm sure uh he says hey scott and brian it's a special somebody's birthday today no not mine someone even more special the one and only kermit the frog so i was hoping you could play my favorite cover of rainbow connection by my favorite cover band, Death Blossoms. Is it too early for a tender crisp bacon, cheddar ranch?

Oh, my lord. You're trying to get them all? Okay, so it's been a bit. It's a tender crust bacon cheddar ranch. Hey, too hard to get a fish sandwich. There you go. Good deal. Yep.

Anyway, yeah, so this is a guy named, or a guy performs under the name Death Blossoms. I had never heard of this before. And in discovering, or in John Fields pointing me towards this, I've got this whole new treasure trove of covers like flock of seagulls covers he does, counting stars. I mean, a lot of great stuff. So very, very cool.

This is the cover of Rainbow Connection, originally done by Kermit the Frog, written by Paul Williams for the Muppets, and go sit on your favorite log and sing along with Death Blossoms and Rainbow Connection. Why are there so many songs about rainbows and what's on the other side?

Rainbows are visions, but only illusions, and rainbows have nothing to hide. We've been told in some shoes to believe it I know their wrong ways and see Some day will find it The rainbow connection The lovers The dreamers can be Who said that every wish

that every wish would be heard and answered when wished on the morning star. Somebody thought of that and someone believed it and look what it's done so far. So we've been told in countries to bed need it. I know they won't wait and see Someday we'll find it

The wave of connection The lovers, the dreamers And we All of us under us down We know that it's probably Magic Have you been half asleep and have you heard voices? I've heard them call in my name.

Is this the sweet dance that calls the young sailors the hosts might be one in the sea? I've heard two minutes to ignore it it's something that I'm supposed to be

someday we'll find it the rainbow connection the lovers the dreamers and me not in a

not even of you La la la la la da da da da da This show is part of the Frogpants Network Get more shows like this at frogpants.com Do you want to have breakfast with me tomorrow morning? No