The Morning Stream - TMS 2115: Hell No 90120

Episode Date: May 17, 2021

Two Shits Passing in the Night. Johnson Neighborhood Rescue Service: Free Roll of Duct Tape with every visit. Baby Johnson Johnson. Cutting pipe is not a euphemism. You had to park it on the grass? Sorry about your leg casserole. Ned Beatty Looks Great for 1000. All that M*A*S*H training finally paying off. You are right where I would be if I were in your shoes. Don't Cut Your Own Pipe! I'm the Best at What I Do, and What I Do is Convert 8mm Film. The Night The Lights Went Out In Dayton! Will you water the poison supply? Letting Your Hate be Your Guide with BIll and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, two shits passing in the night. Johnson Neighborhood Rescue Service, free roll of duct tape with every visit. What a deal. Baby Johnson Johnson. Cutting pipe is not a euphemism. You had to park it on the grass? Sorry about your leg, casserole. Ned Beatty looks great for 1,000.

All that match training, finally paying off. You are right where I would be if I were in your shoes. Don't cut your own pipe. I'm the best at what I do, and what I do is convert 8mm film. The night the lights went out in Dayton. Will you water the poison supply? Letting your hate be your guide with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I see you've got some balls, but you're going to regret it when I chop your head off with my axe.

Here's another example of sheer brute force. This is the morning stream, and we're going to need a bigger pose. Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream from May 17th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibbitt. Hi, Brian. Hi, Scott. How are you? Okay. It's a short week for us. We're gone Thursday on separate mini-vacations. Now, it's a good time to clarify this during the show. It's right on Friday. Are we also gone Thursday? Oh, are we? I don't know. I thought you were gone on Thursday morning. Aren't you gone? You're not going?

No, we leave Thursday afternoon. No, I, you know. Could you use the extra time as the question? I could use the extra time to get freelance done that will need to be done this week. But I, if you were expecting a Thursday, if Wendy was expecting a Thursday show. She's not. I told her we weren't because of this trip. But I thought it was because you had to fly early.

But I say we just take Thursday off and call it a day to prep for your trip. Let's do that. Yeah. Prep for our trips, Scott. Our trips. Up there, it's, it's. their time down here it's our trips our trips uh mine's not much of a trip it's to a place called midway

beautiful place here in utah but brian is going to las Vegas Nevada and so you know we're we're for the first time in a very long time both of us are getting a little time away and join a little time first time getting on a plane in uh let's see last flight I took was it Vegas it might have been Vegas in August of 2019 so Is that your last trip? I think my last trips are 20 months. Oh my gosh. That's crazy.

I love that Vegas was the last place you went and now the next place you're going. That's great. Yeah, it's a nice bookend. Bookending the pandemic with the Sin City. Perfect. It feels like something you in particular should do. So busy weekend here in the Johnson House. We had a bit of a four alarmer on Friday.

I think it was Friday. Yeah, because I watched FilmSec after this event. And then I forgot to talk to you guys on Saturday about it, but it was pretty intense. We get this door, this like frantic door knock at around, I don't know, three in the afternoon or something. Just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And we run up to the front door and swing it open. And there's this 14-year-old girl standing there, a neighbor. And she says, um, my dad's, like, bleeding all over the place.

Oh, my God. I was hoping maybe you could help me with, you know, she was, she didn't. I know how to quite explain it, but she said her dad cut himself and needed help. She was trying to word it in a way that didn't also incriminate herself. Yeah, exactly. So I, and I know these people, they're, they're great. And it just didn't want to use any names. But anyway, she comes the door, knocks, and we went full Johnson emergency mode.

Like freaking Rob, like Voltron. We came together as one robot. Mobilized unit. And Kim goes, all right, let's go. You go the back way. I'll go around the front. All right, sweet. We go over there.

And here he is. laying in his garage with his leg up, blood everywhere. And the story is, he was cutting some pipe. And I don't, this is not a euphemism, okay? He was actually cutting pipe. Sure. And he had a pipe cutter, saw a thing, and this pipe on two, I don't know what they were, two vice grip based stands.

And he was cutting the edge of it off. And it jumped. He lost control of it in his hand. It flipped around, hit him once in the calf, and then drop. down and hit him another time, lower it right before his ankle on the kind of meaty side of the leg. And hit something major because just

blood everywhere. My gosh. Oh, my God. Now, blood doesn't bother me. I don't know why. Never does. Never had a problem with it. People who faint at the side of blood or you know, just get queasy or whatever. I don't get any of that. I just it's whatever. Kim either. It's not a problem. So

we immediately go, all right, let's get your leg in the air. Okay, sweet. Grab that towel. We tell the daughter and she runs over there and grabs a towel. I said, Kim, grab the duct tape. We need duct tape. So she grabs duct tape. And we wrap the towel around the wound areas as tight as we can because, you know,

you always learn you got to put pressure right on the, on the, on the bleeder, right? Right. So we do that and we wrap it with this duct tape. So now he's looking like a. All that mash training finally, uh, paying off. I know. How many reviews of match that match that I have to see before I got to actually use this. But anyway, so we did that and stopped the bleeding. So that was good. And

he was in shock, clearly. He was cogent. You know, we could talk to him and stuff. But you could tell, like the way he was kind of shaking and moving. He was, he was entering shock or some form of shock. And so, you know, got him comfortable leg above his head sort of stuff. And so then we were like, all right, let's get some towels. We're going to get in our car. Because his wife's gone. We don't know where she is. He's out on errands or something. We're like, okay, no one can drive here. You're 14, so you're not taking him anywhere. And, uh, of course, here in the United States, first thing he has to think about is, oh, do I want to do an ER or should I go to like a instant thing? God, doesn't that suck that we actually, we have to weigh, oh, my leg has been

nearly severed. Oh, shoot. Do I want to, what do I want to do insurance wise? Yeah, because you should have, I mean, I would have gone to the ER, but he also is living on a very limited. limited income. He's like 62 years old. He's got, you know, he's got other reasons why that might be a problem. And he may not be able to afford the thousands of dollars that'll charge him if he goes to the ER. So, uh, he opted to go to this like some, his insurance has some emergency clinic thing. That's probably, probably a, an okay call. Like, had his leg been dangling from a string, ER would have been the way. But the, as deep as the cut was, I see why he aired on the side of this other clinic thing. It was.

his call though but again care you said did you say it's like an urgent care but different name i don't remember the name of it okay so anyway that's where i went when i stabbed my hand during the pandemic right oh yeah that's right i forgot about that uh yeah so i had to look to see which which hand was it again it's like oh yeah the one with the big scar yeah there you go but this is you know the state of the united states freaking health care system you have to weigh your freaking financial options every time anything bad happens yeah but anyway so he uh we're we're getting I'm ready to load him into Kim's car, which ironically, we just cleaned. But we're thinking, all right, little blood, whatever.

We're saving a guy's life. Let's do this. Let's go. Can't stay clean forever. We started to do it. And then his wife shows up right then. And boy, does she have the look of a ghost face when she walked in? She couldn't believe what was going on.

She's like, what the frick is going on in here? There's blood all over the garage. And he's like, oh, so then she's like, well, no, I'll take him. Let's put him in the van or whatever they have. And so we're like, oh, okay, well, they don't need us for this. All right, let's load them up, load them up. All right. We're bringing food over later.

Who needs it? Kim says to whoever. You know, we got the whole plan. Everything's good. Of course. And Kim's like, you need to move my car, Scott. You need to move my car so they can get out of here. And I'm like, all right, I'll get in the car.

And I backed the car up and there's no, at the back alley, sort of road where we live, there's no double space. So I got to, I got to park it off somewhere. Sure. So I parked it just a little bit on our back lawn, our like side lawn thing. Not too bad, but just on there. And then we all get done. They leave a trail of blood as intense. everyone's freaking out.

And then Kim looks at me. She looks at the car and she goes, you had to park it on the grass? I'm like, it was an emergency. Right, right. I was in the pool. But anyway, so she was fine. It was no big deal. I was careful about, you know, not hitting sprinklers or whatever, but...

Did you at least set the emergency break? I did do that, yeah. We did. And pulled it another notch or two just to, just to annoy her. But anyway, end of the day, that was just a little crazy. but sometimes it feels good, man. Sometimes you need an emergency to, like, get your, to really get your adrenaline out and, like, get, like, back into it, like, a mode of,

like, all right, nothing else matters right now, but this problem. And there's something about that focus. Yeah. That's a real break during the pandemic where you have a million concerns, worries, thoughts, feelings, and they're spread all over the place, and they're all slow. But in this case, it's like, guys leg is half severed, he's bleeding everywhere. You have to do these four things in a row,

and there's no deviation and you can't think of anything else. Like there's something about that I really liked. It's also like a self-contained thing. It's not like a, all right, now we've done this. Now we have to wait two weeks to be able to do that. Or is this going to change or is that going to change? It's like, nope, we're presented with a problem. We fixed it.

The problem is, at least on our part, solved. He's got a little bit of work still left to do. But it's true. Yeah, it's nice to have a self-cond-old. A one-episode problem that could be started and finished. Exactly. No overarching story. I mean, other than I can give you a little follow-up, he's home and well, and he's just resting that leg, and his work is giving him a little time off.

Yeah, he's on a crutch, but they didn't hit any veins that would be considered, you know, massive. I think in the end, it was like 12 external stitches and a few internal. So a lot. Fair amount. But he's okay. And the bottom line is, don't cut your own pipe. That's the lesson. Exactly. Exactly. What kind of casserole? What's the, sorry, you almost lost your leg flavor of casserole that Kim brought over.

Kim's more of a, I'll cook you an entire chicken, stuff it full of stuff. She doesn't go cheap. That's even better. That's better than a casserole. Yeah, she goes kind of crazy. But, yeah, it was a hell of a thing. And then the rest of the weekend just felt normal. And I don't know, it kind of threw me. I think, I think what happened is I always have these delayed reactions. So, you know, Friday. slept fine, no issues, whatever. But Saturday, it was like it caught up with me, the intensity of it. And I just, I could not sleep on Saturday to save my freaking life. Just could not sleep. Weird. Yeah. Last night, no problem.

Slept fine. Oh, my God. Last night was the first night in a long time that I got a really good night's sleep. Yeah, for you, that's what, three and a half hours? What would we got there? Last night, like, uh, whatever 1030 to 545 a.m. would be. So, let's see, 10.30 to 5.30 would be seven hours, seven hours, 15 minutes. Oh, that's pretty good.

That's great for me. Are you kidding me? That's like... That's a long night. I feel like I overslept, Scott, his situation. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't know the last time I had seven straight. That's really strong. Yeah. Granted, I had Friday night, had tequila, so we went to meet some friends of ours who gave us, or they're lending me, and I'll show it. you yeah you got something there see what you got oh i love show and tell here we go this guy right here oh my lord oh the super eight converter thing super eight eight millimeter super eight converter does both kinds and uh it's the the wolverine oh the wolverine of the best of what i do and

what i do is is convert eight millimeter films to that's awesome so where did you so apparently you got a bunch old footage of like what when you were a little kid or something or when even before before I was even born so 60s the box that I've got is all 60s stuff yeah um which is all stuff before I was born and so the one video that I know we've got somewhere is not in this box and so that tease I had last week may be teased for a little bit longer because I'm not seeing well I take that back the little box is the little eight millimeter um like three inch reels of video all have dates on it from like 1963 to 1967. Right. And I've already done. I've already converted a few of them. There was a Disneyland one in there, right? Oh, that's cool. My mom and

my dad before, you know, 67 years before I was born going with my grandparents and my uncle. And they went to Disneyland and all they took video of was freaking Tom

Sawyer Island. I mean, is that the big thing in the 60s? Was that like a hot attraction or something? Well, you can see Matterhorn in the background. I'm like, oh, get some shots of Matterhorn. But, you know, based on what I saw, it looks like they went right through Disneyland to Mark Twain River and then said, oh, let's spend the entire day walking around trees and into cabins. Wow. Wow.

Well, maybe it's because, I don't know, those old cameras, could you easily take them on a log flume or take them? No, you wouldn't be able to take them on the rides. But at least you could, you know, get some video from the base of the ride where the little cars splashed down and stuff. That was the format of that era, though. If you were making home video, you were doing it on Super 8. It was 8mm. Yeah. And those things, for that entire reel, three minutes.

Like if the reel is full, full from tape to end to end, it's about three minutes worth of video. And it takes about, I don't know. half an hour to convert on this thing because basically it just goes frame by frame and scans each frame and then assembles them. Oh, wow. That's very cool. It's cool. It's really crazy seeing all these old videos of my grandparents and my mom and my uncle and all that stuff. I need to do all of that. I need to go find my stuff, see what's what. Like right now I'm showing the chat room an old video of me at a soccer game. These are all super eight. But I was like, maybe, I don't know, not even three months old or something, three, four months old as

all. And then, so these have all gotten converted, but whoever did them did them at like, uh, freaking four by three, three 60, you know, was pixel, you know, the smallest freaking DVD resolution you can do. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like super pixelated and stuff. Yeah.

These aren't, these aren't great either. I mean, I could. And I don't know if maybe there's a way for, you know, there's all this talk of. like, you know, AI-based upscaling of old video and stuff like that. And I would love to, I don't know, I would love to do some of that with this stuff. But anyway, oh, there's them going to the hospital having me. There's me getting my weener out. Look at you guys.

My wiener. It's my baby weiner. Look, baby wiener. Oh, great. Great. Right there. Yep. Aren't you glad you tuned in today?

Everyone at home's like, what? Yeah. See, like, if I give you, I'll give you a, just frame from this. With the movement, it's, it's a lot better. are, you know, as you see the video moving, it looks a lot better than it does there. But, boy, you freeze frame it. Oh, here we go. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Yeah. It's weird, right? It's like, uh, who's that back there going? That's not. That is my uncle George. Is that? In one of the tree houses on Tom Sawyer Island screaming.

That's my dad walking up the stairs, the yellow shirt. Yeah. He's got the good look going. And I think. Who's the lady? I think. that's my grandmother Josephine, actually.

Huh. Yeah. That's crazy. Horsback riding at Disneyland at one point. Did they? I don't know that. That seems like definitely a thing they probably used to do.

Yeah. But they don't do anymore. Yeah, I mean, they opened in 55. So, I mean, this was, this was, like, 12 years after they opened that they went there. So, I mean, it was before,

I think Space Mountain was early 70s? Yeah. Somewhere in there. I remember that being new when I was young enough to remember someone talking about it being new. Like 74, 75, something like that. It felt like it was around, well, that would have been much later, though. Wouldn't have been around Star Wars.

I don't know. But all I know is that's a famous ride now because that's where my kids refused to get on and Carter thought she'd throw up if she got on it. 1975 is when Space Mountain. Oh, 75, right in the middle. Yeah, right in the middle. All right then. Well, now I've shown the chat room my wiener for the first time.

and if you think it looked big then. Wow. Oh, by the way, Claire in the chat room thinks I'm drinking monster. I don't know where she's getting that. I have a tea in here and I don't have a monster. She thinks it's a monster can. Oh, it's that dark green. It's the monster can color.

Oh, that one? So if you're, yeah, if you're viewing it on a, you know. And it's funny because the way the light hits it, it almost looks like it's the two. pieces of the M. Oh, oh, I could see that then. The two arms of the M. All right, well, I was going to blame

the Irish, but once again, it's all time. Hey, a quick reminder that tonight, today, that's not really night for me, but it will be when I'm done, begins the foray of the what we're going to call the Resident Evil 8 live scream. Clever, clever.

I'm sure that's been used a million times, but anyway, that starts tonight at 4 p.m. Mountain Time John Jagger will be there to provide guidance slash commentary. He's beat the game three times. So he's an insane person. What? Like already? Yeah. Things just came out. I know. In like the week and whatever or so, he's beating it. And I want to say a run through that thing, the first run through that's like 16 hours. That's a pretty big game. So I don't know how he did it, how he said it all in, but he did.

And he loves it. And as a result, now knows everything about it. So he'll know when I'm about to do something dumb or good yeah so he can he could just like wait for it wait for it yeah that's all true so tonight is the night and i want to thank badger lord again for donating the game for that is the reason why i allow this to happen at all and if you show up you'll hear things like and much more so come join us today 4 p.m. mountain time we'll do it every monday at 4 until we're done and I'll put the whole thing up on YouTube as well. Oh, that's great. Watch for that.

Okay. Nice. Let's say you to some, what if I smeared a little Dunaway on your bread? How would that feel? Smear a little generous helping of Dunaway on my bread. Sweet. I'm going to do that then.

Yeah, pretty gross. But nonetheless, he's great on your bread or otherwise. So here we go. who it is everybody it's our old pal brian dunaway hi hey hello oh hey oh hi oh hi scott are you there hi hi hi i don't think i ever had so many different greetings told me at once greetings hello hi except that one time i was called ios yeah there you go hey are you at work you're at work right now right scott why i know but here's why i got to ask you i got a reason the reason you're at word the reason i ask is because i know that you you you're at word the reason i ask is

because i know that you you happen to work in something that's sort of governmental ish yes yes i do indeed could you take the town down with the stroke of a key or if you got into the right absolutely not i do not hold that kind of power oh well i was sure that there was so no no sense in kidnapping me yeah don't nobody take no one puts brian now i don't know what you think i am exactly like in some kind of the 1960s batman villain where i'm trying to poison the water tank but no there is no advantage to me at my current uh staffing over any other lunatic that would decide to do such a thing well that's what i'm asking like if you wanted to go rogue one day you're just like man i'm sick at this place i'm gonna i'm gonna

leave my mark and i'll everyone will remember the name brian dunaway for here and forever what i mean you could do something right i i'm sure i'm sure i could but i mean why would i i don't know i mean Okay, so it's like this. We're so well set up. We've covered ourselves so many times that even if I decided I'm like, you know what? I'm deleting so-and-so's emails. I'm deleting all of them. It doesn't matter off-site.

All that stuff is archived elsewhere. It doesn't matter what I do. I could call some havoc like for a day, but, you know, then the police would come get me and I wouldn't have done anything. Other than paint myself, you know, paint my face white and laugh. Maniacly Like the Joker, sure Right What if you laid a

What if you laid a drop to a turd in the break room How much trouble did that? Now I have accidentally dropped my You know a baby Ruth in the you know In a sink full of water Oh I gotcha Yeah and I'm like I'm like oops Sorry about that

I should leave that in there I'm like sorry about that Then I pick it up and eat it and everybody freaks out And it's okay Yeah that's totally But that's more psychological warfare Than anything really Sure. Or scatological warfare, sure.

Yeah. All right. We have, I think we have a listener on the line, although right now I see their rings of speakage are really loud. So let's see how this goes. Oh, this isn't bad. Oh, they hung up. Oh, they got chicken and left. They had this, like, I didn't, I had it muted, so I didn't pick it up right away, but I'm glad I didn't because it looked like it was full blast. Like something was really loud. And I don't know if it was them.

Right, like you see the full all the way up to the red. Yeah, it was bad. But let's see how this one goes. this is a different one. Hi, thanks for holding. Who's this? Hi, this is Brooke from Ohio. Well, hello, Brooke from Ohio. How the heck are you? I'm really good. Oh, that's fantastic. This is my first time calling in and I got right through. I love hearing a new name. I know, it's that we're, Brian and I were just talking yesterday about how, you know, we want to hear more, we want more diversity, more people than the same 10 people. And look, first day, here's somebody new. This is great. Well, welcome to the show. We're really glad to have you here.

Brian's going to explain how it works, what you could win and how this game plays. Brian. Well, before I do that, Brooke, what part of Ohio are you from? I'm from the Dayton area. The Daily News. Dayton Daily News. Yes. Do you work in utilities? Can you bring your utilities down?

Can you break down your entire city with a keystroke? No brownouts in Dayton. That's too bad. All right. Anyway, Brooke, well, I'm going to be giving Scott and Brian a topic. They're going to be going back and forth giving me answers that fit that topic. If one of them gives a wrong answer or repeated answer or they take too long. to come up with an answer. The win will go to the other

player. Your job is to predict who's going to come out on top, based on the topic today. You're playing for a pair of Steam games, Curtisley Curtis Lee. Oh, so courteously. Thank you. So, courtesy. Oh, Curtisly. You're playing for Townsman, a kingdom rebuilt. God, that sounds like

my kind of game where you build a kingdom. And Call of Gthulhu. Oh. Is it your kind of game? Eldridge Horror. Okay. Just the standard. Okay. Yeah. Just standard horror game that's cool nice uh all right so those are your prizes but to win them uh you need

uh we need to give the boys a topic now here's one of these things though that i kind of don't know uh how how much of this show the guys watched in the 90s but uh uh today is the 20th anniversary 21st anniversary of the very last episode of Beverly Hills 9-0-2-1-0. Oh, yeah. It feels like it feels like longer than 21 years ago, right? Doesn't it? Yeah.

It feels a lot longer than that. Yeah. Also, some of us hated that show, so I'm nervous about this, but keep going. Why would you hate that show? Some of us meeting Scott was like. What did you think about the reboot? Did you watch it? No.

Hell no. I didn't like the source material. I'm not watching the reboot. How about, did you watch Riverdale at least? No, my wife loves Riverdale, though. How about Melrose Place? Did you watch Melrose Place? Two, like, two episodes.

Yeah, Melrose Place actually is more accessible, really than a 902.10. Believe it or not. It was targeted towards an older audience. Yeah, exactly. Because they went from teens high school to like 20s college. Right. Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. Anyway, so back to Beverly Hills, 902, and over 10 seasons, we got to meet a large cast of characters. and 21 of them appeared in 50 episodes or more. Now, I'm going to allow, just based on Scott's reaction and response, I'm going to allow both of you to either give me just the character's first name or the actor, actress, who played. Oh, good, good, good, good, good.

I figured that'll help you guys in a long time since I've seen the 90210. and I probably would recognize an actor's name before I would You probably would Okay, cool So either actor or the first name of the character I mean, hell, if you want to give me both names of the character Good luck with that, but

Let's see here. What else? I'll give you, obviously, you'll still get your starting mulligan. I'll give you guys each one extra mulligan. Here's your little extra mulligan there. In how many? You said more than... More than 50 episodes.

Oh, wow. Actually, you know, I'll go about 40, 40 episodes. I'm just going to go anybody that appeared ever on my own. I think that's safe, exactly. All right, so that is the topic. Brooke, I don't know if you can tell how confident Scott and Brian feel about this topic. But who do you feel has got the edge? So I feel like Brian, I'm as scared when he heard the topic.

So I'm going to go with Brian to win and Scott to go first. All right. Like, I think you're, you're right where I would be if I were in your shoes. So I think this is a good call. Yeah, that's what I would have said to. All right. Well, let's just get. Because, Scott, because Brad Dunaway didn't go,

902 and oh, hell no. I hate that show. What a bunch of crap. Well, let's go with, let's start with. I don't know what a character he played, but, um, the late great Luke Perry. Yeah, Luke Perry. He played Dylan McKay, the bad boy from across the tracks.

Yeah, like James, or like, like, like, James Dean. It was kind of a James Dean kind of thing, is, yep, exactly. Rebel without a clue. All right, Luke Perry is, we're off to the races here. Brian. Okay, then if we've got to go with the other side, we're going to go with Jason Priestley,

and he played, oh, what is his name? Brandon, I think, is that right? Brandon. Did play Brandon. Brandon, Walsh. Geraldine Ferraro. Yep. He was fired on all cylinders.

Look at that. one of the most frequent appearances on the show. He did leave before the last season and was only shown in flashbacks, but 245 episodes for Mr. Jason Priestley. Okay, let's go with Shark Man,

Ian Zering. Ian Zering. Don't remember his character. It's pronounced Ion, Scott. It's Ian Zering. Ion. Yeah, Steve Sanders, not just a Beverly Hills 9-0-210O alum, but also, think a celebrity apprentice as well.

Yeah. Nice. He played like, he played like 16 and was like 28 or something when he did it. Right. Appeared in all 292 episodes of Beverly Hills, 9-02-0. Wow. He was the whole buffalo. That's what he did.

He was the whole buffalo, exactly. All right. All right. I'm going with Tiffany Amber Thesson. Oh, very good. She dropped the amber, by the way, and is now. Oh, did she drop it? Oh, did she get rid of it?

She doesn't like the Amber? I guess not. It wasn't the color of her energy. Well, I only know her that way. If you drop that out, then I don't, I can't recall you. I know, right? Yeah, like a three-name, hey, I can remember a three-name performer, but, yeah, Tiffany Amber Theson appeared, I mean, she was Amber Thesson back then.

136 episodes appeared as Valerie Malone. Valerie. Valerie. All right, let's do. Join the cast in the fifth season. Yeah, I was going to say she was a late. Oh, you know why? Because one eye lower than the other one left.

Oh, please. That's not nice. Well, that's how I remember. Hold on a second. You think that's why she left? No, she had a promise. She had a thing where one eye was lower than the other one. And it always drove me crazy.

Tom Cruise. Shannon. Shannon. Shannon. Shannon. Oh. Shannon her name is Shannon Like my daughter

Or my sister used to say Diorito this way Dehotri Doherty Doherty Shannon Doherty Shannon Doherty Very good Dehreauze

Durr Yep Beverly Hills and Antoino Of course Heather's She's a little house on the prairie alum I love it when she went to When she did the Was it the Spike Chow that did

the um oh the scare tactics oh was she in that she she did like the first couple of seasons of that oh really okay no memory of that the first host yeah i'm sure gotcha uh yes shannon doherty um who's had some major health issues had uh fought breast cancer in the early or the mid 2000s or and i think she's currently another wave of that or something it's pretty awesome yes yeah yeah unfortunately but uh yeah shand dority um she did she left in the fifth season when Oh, and Amber. Yeah, she was the swap out.

I could have swore that was much earlier. They were two shits passing in the night. Wow. I'll get more heat for the eye comment, though. All right, go ahead, Donaway. Your turn. I'm going to go with Tori Spelling. Oh, gosh, dang it.

Hard to forget Donna Martin, who almost didn't graduate. Yeah, she almost didn't graduate, Brian Dunaway, because of something I can't. even remember another another perma fixture in the show she appeared in all 292 episodes of beverly hills and well since i just watched that kid 90 documentary it this is helpful because uh there's a there's a prominent um use of brian austin green in that documentary oh yeah my next one yep uh another another full-timer 22 episodes for david silver yeah who uh was the school

Vanilla without the ice. Yeah. He was the school DJ and stuff, right? Like they had the radio thing. So dumb. So dumb. Anyway. All right.

And I, okay, so I know two more, I can't remember the character's name. You said that could be the character name or the actor's name. Or the actor-actress, yes. Or both if you have them. Or both. That's just a flex if you want to be cool. That's right. Yeah.

it was Kelly and I can't remember I don't need the last name. I don't remember her or her real name so you got her. Well done. Yeah, Kelly. She's one of the primary actresses. She was. Kelly Taylor, played by

Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth also appeared on every single episode of the show lasted through that whole damn thing. How about a... Now does like a house flip show with her husband or something, I think.

Tina's watched a little bit of it. Okay. I know what you're talking about. Okay. All right. Now, there's the one that was like 38 when she played 16. Right. Yeah. And I don't. Oh, yeah. I know you're talking about. And I couldn't think of her name. So if you can think of the actress or the character. I can't think of either of her. So what if I had a first or last name? That doesn't probably count. Not that I have either for those. Of the character? Last game, Smith. If I go with either one. If I had either one. If I had a

a match first or last name of the character first name of the character is enough is enough is enough A is enough Uh Uh Oh dude All right well I'm gonna

I'm gonna go obscure and I don't even think the number's right But I know I have a strong memory that Um That Steve Bouchemmy was in this show for a while as a regular role. Now, it may not meet your standard of 40 episodes. I didn't think about that.

So this may be a mulligan, but whoever Steve Bouchemie played, it was like a, he was like a school vice principal or some shit like that. Golly, I am, I am looking. I don't remember. We watched, I don't remember that at all.

We watched through the first like six seasons of it. Right. I don't remember that at all. What am I thinking of? I haven't thought about any of the... Nurse Jackie? I don't know, but, uh, I don't remember. And I'm not coming up with Steve Buscemi at all on... Damn it! All right, so I get a Mulligan.

That's all right. Maybe you're thinking of Melrose Place. Do I just get a... I just get a mulligan, right? Get a mulligan. You just used up your a mulligan. What am I thinking of Steve Bouchemey for? I don't know.

I don't know, but I'm trying to fit him in there. And I'm seeing it for some reason, even though I know it's not right. Yeah, like he went undercover or something. It was like... Oh, I think you're thinking of when he was... What was that on when he went undercover? Hello, fellow teenagers. Oh, shit!

Yeah, what was that? What was that? That's what I'm thinking of. What was that? That is hilarious. Not even close. Was it like a Disney show or something? It was a movie.

A movie? What's up, dudes? The meme is already, oh, never been kissed, right? Never been kissed. That is hilarious. You suck to be in reality. It was 30 Rock, yes. 30 Rock.

Really? Yeah, 30 Rock. This image of. my head that he's undercover in the school of 9-0-0-0-0. He does. But it's bad. I mean, it's like, he's like got a skateboard and what's up, dudes. Oh, Andrea.

Andrea is the girl. Andrea. There you go. Yes, Andrea Zuckerman. Played by the current head of the Screen Actors Guild and a feuder Feudor with Donald Trump.

You know what? I always wondered when like modern memes were going to ruin my memory. It just happened today. Because that's a meme with Steve Bouchem. It's got nothing to do with 9-0-2-1-0. Why do I have associated with that? I am really struggling. 147 episodes. When did she get out? She got out

at the bitter end. Probably you know when she had to go to a nursing home, right? Right, right. The end of season five. Yeah, I was going to say, at some point they went, you know, you really are starting to look like you're in your 40s. So we have to, you know, you've got to graduate. It's ridiculous. Anyway.

All right, Brian. God, I'm going to be amazed. I'm amazed if you guys come up with anymore. I can think else is now, okay, so we've got the core characters. There's parents involved. Sure. And I really can't, I mean, I really can't think. I can see their faces, but I can't think of it.

So I might have to fall back to some. Just guessing the first name or something. Yeah. No, I'm not going to do that. if I could do that, but that would be fun. I could, I could. I think I'll go with some of the special guest stars. I remember on a very special episode of 90210.

And I don't remember how this character came up much or not, but I remember Dean Kane being on there a couple of times. Spreading anti-mask propaganda. He played Clark, I think. He played Clark. He actually played a character named Rick, but there's only four episodes. Oh. Oh, times that by 10, and you'd have it if you just times it by 10?

That's right, mulligan time. So you got another, uh, got another guess? I can't believe I may have Andrea to think for my, uh, God, I know, my chance here. I could see. Jason Priestley's mom. Uh-huh. Is that, is that character name? Um, yes, that's a certain character name.

Jason Priestley's mom. So, so Brandon's mom, that's how she's, list in the IMD your Brandon's mom I can't do it oh man it's not gonna work um

yeah oh is that not your answer or what are you doing yeah yeah it's definitely my answer oh then you're wrong uh yeah Jim and Cindy were the parents

Jim and Sidney I could have made up something I could have made that up Jesus I could have guessed a first name Yep uh let's see Kathleen Robinson played Claire. She was another long-timer.

She was David Silver's girlfriend for a long time. Felice Martin, played by Catherine Ken. That was Donna's mom. Anne Gillespie was Kelly's mom, played Jackie. Oh, yeah. All there is is parents left in the 40 Club, probably? No. Let's see, Jesse Vasquez was a boyfriend.

There's some peach pit person, like a peach pit runner owner? Well, Nat. Nat ran the peach pit. Joe E. Tata, or Tata. Tata. He was on 238 episodes of the show. Jamie Walters played Ray Pruitt. He pushed Donna down the stairs in a very special episode of 902.1.

Oh, my Lord. I don't remember any of that. All right. Well, now a lot of my 902.1 watching was as I did other things while someone else was watching it. That would be the best way to... It was mostly in the peripheral. That was my full absorption. I mean, things like if Luke Perry hadn't had done

Fifth Element, I wouldn't probably remember Luke Perry very well. Or, you know, like some of those guys went on to do stuff that made them interesting outside of the show and, like, I keep forgetting that Luke Perry was in Fifth Element for like a minute at the very beginning. Yeah, it's not very long. He's an assistant. Yeah, it's like,

this is it. This is it. I found it. I'm going to be in movies. He's in that eight minute. What's that? It's a rodeo. Yeah, that's actually. she's pretty good he's all right in that like he i think he had real or eight seconds he had potential outside of where he kind of minutes where he kind of four minutes you spend eight minutes on a bowl you're you're damn impressive yeah eight hours the ball is just like ah yeah i'm done yeah going back to bull town all right uh well done everybody except boy howdy we got a we got a loser today

not not not our listeners brook you're not a loser uh what we mean is brian you pick the wrong guys what i'm saying and it's not your fault uh there'll always be a future chance where you get to pick the right person, but today is not that day. How do you feel about your devastating loss? I feel fine. I'm just happy I got into it. Well, I'm happy you got into.

Well, we're glad you're here. If we're ever in Dayton or nearby, we have to, we'll have to hang out. Thanks so much for playing. Hey, Brian, well done. You're looking forward to the boop show tomorrow? I am. It's going to be great. No, no, not really.

Of course, I'm looking forward to the boop show. What's a crazy question is that? That's a bad question. That's almost as crazy as will I water this, will I poison the water supply? Right. Almost as crazy as that, but not quite. Tomorrow we got indie games to talk about, some indie news to talk about all kinds of indie indie.

So be there and enjoy it. It'll be at 3.30 mount time. I've been playing Turnip Boy commits tax evasion. Oh, yeah. It is amazing. Yeah. If you like Zelda's. Yeah.

I've been playing the voxel tycoon, which I will also talk about. If you like voxels and tycooning, then... I do like voxels. I'm here for you. I've also been playing a lot of that new Mass Effect trilogy almost all yesterday. That's all I did. But it feels good to be back

in the presence of Commander Shepard. Anyway, hey, Brian. That's great. Oh, in an episode this last weekend on FilmSack, we finally did Predator, the original Predator. Finally. From 1987. So, yeah, if you haven't seen that or heard that yet, you're going to want to watch that.

We finally got to the Chapa. Yeah, he got to the Chapa. And thank you to Scott and everybody for letting me play with the There Will Be Dungeons. That was also good. Oh, yeah, that was great. Great. You were awesome on there, by the way. Everybody really enjoyed it. Brian had a great little...

I need to go back and listen. That sounds like fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. We got a... Eventually, we'll have all the Brian's on, but it was great. He's only our second guest ever. So nice job. You did a good job. Oh, well, good. Shrugs went, meh. Yeah, it went meh.

His character's name was Shrugs, and guess what? He shrugged a lot. Shrugs. Yeah. Shrugs the rogue. He was fantastic. All right, Brian, stay out of trouble. Eat your vittles, and don't bring down the Greenville power grid. Hors in the water supply. All right, we got time for a story.

So let's do one here. In the news is sponsored by you'll find quality in our corner. All right, we got the news here, brought to you by. Totally will. Brought to you by the Alzheimer's longest day charity thing. That's the thing I'm doing. And we're going to do a live stream playthrough. At some point in June, in mid-June, we're figuring out dates and times and stuff of the Oculus game, Demio or Demio or DeMayo.

I don't know how it's pronounced. But we get a bunch of us together. We're going to be doing four-player live stream and raising money for Alzheimer's. If you want to donate early, you really should. Go to tiny.cc. slash coverville, ALZ, 2021. That's all lowercase coverville, ALZ for Alzheimer's, 2021. Very nice.

I'm looking forward to that. That should be fun. I am too. Got to pick that thing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've watched a couple of live streams. It looks like a riot. It looks like a totally good time.

Like, an actually legit, good tabletop game in VR. That's what people are saying, yeah. I need to charge my headset. It's been off for a couple of weeks, and I hope I... Where is it? There it is. All right. No worries.

Hey, a shrunken head artifact. That's in the news. Check it out, you guys. Shrunken heads. Remember those? Those were a thing for a while. It's a thing. A shrunken head artifact that was used as a prop in a John Houston film.

film is now been revealed to be human. Ah! Yep, it wasn't some prop or fake. It's real. It's a grim artifact that has been on display for decades and at Georgia University has been authenticated as human, a human head, taken from a slain enemy by the Amazonian warrior by an Amazonian warrior nearly two centuries ago. Oh, my God.

Yeah, Mrs. Prince could not be found for her comment. What film was this at? That's what I'm trying to find here. I didn't put it in this part of the article. Let me see if I can find it. Looking at the article here. It's a long article. Yeah, it's really long.

Like they put this in the headline, but then don't give it to us in the first 12 paragraphs. Yeah, and they have the whole shrunken heads were popular in curiosity, even keepsakes in some part of the world. It's like, I know, but what movie? Oh, here we go. The 1979 John Houston film Wise Blood. Wiseblood. A version of the novel by the writer Flannery O'Connor. Ah, look how wise are.

blood is now. Flannery O'Connor. Hold on. Let's take a look at here and see what Wise Blood got on I&B. 1979. 7.1 out of 10, not bad. Got Brad Dorif in there. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

And a real head, real shrunken head. Actual shrunken head. But that's just Brad Dorff. Then there was this other shrunken head. Anyway. He's running a special. He'll give you three heads for one of yours. Ned Beatty in there, William Hickey.

Oh, lovely. You got it. Toy out of that guy. Henry Dean Stanton. Look at his cast. That blessing. Not blessing. I mean, Ned Beatty, how's he doing?

He's alive. Is he checked in on him? Is he all right? So he was Gene Hacking's sidekick in the Superman movies, right? He also squealed like a pig. Oh, right. In deliverance. Yeah.

Let me just quickly look at Ned Beatty. day. He's got to be. He's what, a thousand? I mean, 37, that makes him 80 something. Oh, he looks great. Well done, Ned Beatty. You look fine. Oh, you know what? 83, that makes me happy. At Ned Beatty looking great for his age. Uh-huh. That's awesome. All right. Him and Hackman, still rocking it, I guess. That's right. We haven't heard from Gene. I've got to start bringing up these names. Oh, geez. Yeah, quit bringing up Gene Hackman. Yeah, that's a bad. idea. Anyway, beware of shrunken heads. They might be somebody you know. All right, moving on. We're going to take a break. When we come back, Bill DeRan will be joining us. We're going to talk about

making things. Before we can do that, though, we've got to make music. And Brian brought the music to make it. What do you got? Gene Hackman, 91 right now. Whoa. All right, let's go to a brand new album that just came out called Poilin. P-O-I-L-E. And I was going to say pollen, because it looks like pollen, but there's an eye in there. Oh, you know what? It's a typo. The first, the first mention of the album has an eye, but all the other mentions have just spell pollen. Hey, this album comes out June 1st, but you're going to hear an early track from it. The first single release from this. This is a Brooklyn band called Superbloom, and some of their music sounds like Dinosaur Jr., Nirvana.

There's a track on the single for this first song that is very Nirvana-styled. But I'm pulling out a very cool, almost Jose Gonzalez kind of acoustic track for this first song here. This is really, really good. The song is Muzzle. Here is Super Bloom. Save me from myself Put me back up on the shelf I thought we understood

If I could turn back time I would Hit underwater When I like to speak, I want to know your name. Blood in the water, when you like to feed, I want to know your name. In my river bed The TV closed again All their frame by frame hail for a letter change

hit under water when I like to speak I want to know your name blood in the water when you like to feed I want to know your name Enemy. me if you've got to die for something

this sure is hell ain't it this is the morning this is the morning stream we're back we have returned welcome back everybody that song again Brian that song is

muzzled by the band Superbloom. It's from their upcoming album, Pollen. Fantastic. All right. Hey, everybody. Hold tight because good news. You're going to learn about making shit. Yeah.

It's going to come from the mouth, desk, and life of one Bill Duran. So let me play his intro. Your bat caves open there, Bill. Bill Duran joining us from the Pacific Northwest. Good morning, Bill. How are you? Good morning. Doing good. That's fantastic. He sound great.

down awake and ready and living it just living the dream over there you know it yeah yeah always uh bill comes from punished props dot com a company he founded all about making and uh being creative and cool props and all sorts of rad stuff including a really cool youtube channel that if you're not already following then what are you doing freaking get it in gear and get over there hey uh bill what do you have for us today oh i've got a really fun topic here um i know that uh some people I'm not going to point any fingers, but some people on this Discord call are serial content creators who start new, I'll just say, I'll just say podcast every, like on a whim. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And every time you start, or if you've been working on a sort of a new creative endeavor for a while, sometimes you might try to think, like, well, how do I, how do I make this thing so that it's not like all the other.

stuff that's out there but it's still very much like me right something very personal something that i like a lot um that could be like a podcast youtube channel a webcomic a novel short story paintings any sort of creative endeavor that's going to go on for a while right uh so this is something i put a lot of thought into because i have a youtube channel i've been running for a long time in fact december will be the 10 year anniversary of starting my youtube channel geez kind of bananas yeah yeah it's cool Um, so there's this really fun and cool exercise that I learned from my buddy Brian Brushwood, who learned it from his buddies, a pen and teller, that they used to develop their stage show, their magic stage show.

The idea is that you take a look at what's out there, right? The other creative things that are similar to what you're making. So when they did it, they looked at all the other stage magic shows out there. And they watched a lot of them, and they made a list of all the stuff about, stage magic that they didn't like. They basically let their hate be their guide. They dip their toe into the dark side, and they were able to come up with a list of things that they just didn't want to do in their show that everyone else was doing, all the tropes,

you know, magic tropes. White tigers. Exactly, yes, no white tiger. They only want orange tigers. Only orange tigers, yes. And they were able to develop a show that was very personal to them Because it was choices they made Depending on what they liked or not

And it didn't look like anything else that was out there at the time So we did the same thing for our YouTube channel Quite a few years ago We watched well we already watch a lot of YouTube videos And if you are looking to get into let's say a podcasting You should be listening to a lot of podcast right You should really see what's out there and really get an idea for what your taste is. Sure.

Yeah. So we did the same thing. The other thing sometimes is just to a simple Google search sometimes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because the problem I've run into before is I'll think I've had the most brilliant idea ever and I can't believe no one's done it. And the minute you think that in the modern age, you need to go look because there's a really strong chance somebody else has already done it or done it in a way that you at least need to see it and go, oh, well, that's okay. is I'm going to go this direction with it, and that's different, makes it kind of new, plus, you know, I'm bringing my own style to it and blah, blah, blah.

So you can still navigate your way through that, but looking for a thing that nobody anywhere, any time, has ever done before. Freaking, good luck with that. It's tough, yeah. Yeah, so if somebody's done before, do it better. If nobody's done it before, do it. Yep. Yeah.

You either have to be the first or best. Right, exactly. That's right. So, yeah, even if you do find something that's very similar to what you, you know, you thought you wanted to make, it's worth dissecting it and picking it apart. And it's very possible for you to make your own version of it. Like I said, it's still very personally you and still very different. So a few years ago, we actually took a class with Brian in Texas with the Wizard Academy, which is a business school that is awesome and I love it. And we did this exercise. We

analyzed our YouTube channel. We analyzed a lot. We watch a lot of maker YouTube channels. Right. So we were able to pick apart the things that people do in their videos that we don't prefer that we don't like. I think hates a little bit strong of a word, but for me anyway. So we made this giant list. So here's a few examples. I don't like watching a video that, a maker video that isn't comprehensive, right? Right. Where it isn't clear.

It feels like they skipped filming some of the steps, right? maybe it maybe feels a little bit more like an overview of the build process and those videos are fine there's nothing wrong with those videos it's just i don't want that for my videos right um i also don't like when people use colloquial terms or like local terms or whatever for especially for materials or tools give me an example like uh here in minnesota we call a piece of wood uh old jimmy john or whatever like what do you mean like uh we're using rubber strap for this uh so for this so for example, brand names will frequently get used. So barge is a brand of contact cement that we use all the time. Problem is, it's only available pretty much here. And, well, there are lots of places in the world where it's not available. And our YouTube videos go out to lots of people in the world. So I use the term contact cement, right? Instead of saying barge. Usually, I try to. So that when people are doing a Google search for glue in their area, they just look for contact cement, which is the more generic term. And they may find a brand.

end of context and meant where they live. This is just an example. So I put a lot of effort into that. Like, when we're making our videos, I try very hard not to use colloquial terms or brand names. I try to use terms that people can then Google search for to go find it where they live. I also really don't like when people are working on something really intricate and they don't show a very close-up shot of it, right? Like, come on, I want a real close, detailed shot of that thing you're working on. but a lot of times people will leave the camera on a tripod

when they're filming and they don't consider, oh, I should move my body closer to the camera so I can get a better shot of this. Sure. So again, that's something we put a ton of effort into when we're doing our filming. And we have, you know, Britney does the filming so she can move closer and stuff.

And she can think to do that while she's working, which is really cool. That's awesome. One more fun example. just a silly thing about YouTube videos that bugs me I don't like what people reference the title of their own YouTube video so when you start watching the video

and the first thing the person says well you've already watched or you've already read the title so you know what I'm about to say I'm like don't even say any of that just go into the video just skip that part this is my number one problem with all of YouTube get to the meat get straight to the meat I don't need another introduction. I clicked on you because it said in the title, here's how to get your car to fart twice or whatever. I know

what I want. Yeah. So I'm here already. You don't need to tell us. You'll need to tell us, oh, this is a video I've been wanting to make for a really long time. Finally get a chance to do it. A thousand people have asked me to make this video. Right. The same thing goes for written articles like this. Like get to the meat of the thing. I don't need all the fluff. And now there may be, there may be a case or two where explanation is needed. I'm not saying there isn't. Oh, sure, yeah. Most of the time. You do need to set up a premise for your story. That's very important. You should explain why it is you're making the thing you're making. But the sort of self-referential, like, hey, everybody, I want to point out that we're watching a YouTube

video on the internet. I'm like, just ignore all that. Just skip all that. Just talk directly to your audience. They've already read the title. They've already looked at the thumbnail. You worked really hard on those things. That's why they clicked on the video. Just get right into it. And I understand the tendency. Like, I don't want to fault people too hard because I get the feeling of like, I sort of need to describe the problem again and then tell them the solution. Yeah. But you don't because this is the new part of the kind of media we share with each other today.

As we know what the problem is because we search for that problem. And now you're going to answer my problem. And if you answer it well and quickly, I'm going to subscribe to your channel because I know I'm going to get good information here. Finding good channels on things like, I don't know, Photoshop tips or, take anything where you're just looking for a good resource on oh yeah that's a bug here's how you get around or whatever the ones that get to the damn point are the ones i subscribe to every yeah and i still like them for their personalities i still like them for their entertainment value it's not like that stuff can't exist it's just you don't have to you don't have to read me

the encyclopedia entry before you tell me the answer yeah apparently in tally uh put this in the chairroom it's known as the wadsworth constant if you go to 30% forward in the video like skip the first, just drag your little slide of the 30% mark in the video. That's when you'll get to the important stuff of the video. So you have to wait for the top to see how much they're going to launch into the description. And they're like, oh, this is one of those. 30% in, you're good. Yep, exactly.

Yeah, yeah. So we did that, like I said, we did that example or that exercise years ago. And we've slowly changed how we make our YouTube videos. In fact, compared to five years ago that we've made them now is unrecognizable, completely different process and the end product. think is much, much better. But not only that, we're going to find the other people who hate all those things too and appreciate that we make videos that don't include them.

Nice. We will attract more people that like the thing that we're into. That seems to have worked. Seems to have worked. Yeah. And I think you, if anything, you guys are emblematic of what I like. Because I usually what I get with you is I'll hop in and you'll go, hey, you know this gun from such and such movie you think is cool

and then there's a picture of it and I'm like yeah I do like I do that at gun is cool we're making one of those and then you start making it yeah yeah I like that I appreciate that I don't need it's a very simple premise for most of our videos I'm like hey I'm Bill there's a thing in the world that doesn't exist

and I want it to exist so we're going to do that today all right let's go yeah mostly all of our stories are that yeah like a single sentence and you're in and then it's the process that people are there for in your case exactly so I also I've also learned that people aren't here to see my face. We used to shoot our videos where I would talk at the camera for a bunch,

and then I'd have some B-roll that I just chucked over it of the build process. And every time I could look at the retention data, every time the video cut back to my face, people are like, nah, I'm out of here. I just leave. So we're like, okay, every bit of the video must be fabrication. Got it. So just keep that camera on my hands.

It seems counterintuitive, right? but it's it's if you think about it it makes sense like they're there for such a directed reason that if you're not giving them that thing and in some videos cases their face is the reason like you you do want to go i guess you want to see Logan Paul's face i don't know but my point is like i don't whatever punch Logan Paul's face well now he has professional boxers do that so it's fine that's true yes exactly but yeah like the talking head is is good for when you want a talking head but but you're you're totally right and sometimes you just don't know that stuff until you've tried it and went oh we're okay this is what people prefer and you and you're trying to find

the cross section of the things you like to do on video and the things that other people like to watch on video um and and you may have to you may find something you really like that's totally you that makes your videos really fun for you that no one else likes you have to decide well do I keep that in my videos or not, right? Do I want that to be a thing? Do I want that to be the thing that prevents some people from watching my video, even though I like doing it a lot? Right.

And those are the weird kind of decisions you have to make once you've been, you know, working on a creative endeavor like this for a while. So when is your Korean cosmetics channel launching? When are you going to get into that? Yeah. I'm excited. I watch Bill do that every day. All right.

Well, this is great. Great advice. and recently ran up against this sort of thing myself. So it's always just good to be thinking that way. Sometimes it's easy to go, oh, I have a thing I would love to do. But it isn't necessarily something people would love to see or love to listen to it. Right, right. So you've got to just balance that.

Maybe it's okay. If all you're trying to do is just seek out precisely what you want, then okay, do that. You should do that. But if your goal is to, like, grow audience or expand, you know, what you do or whether it's monetize something or whatever. you have to think about those things and not just go, well, I want to do it, so therefore I'm doing it. It doesn't always work. So, good advice all around.

Bill, do you have a bonus link for us this week? I sure do. Alex Steele, the blacksmith, is making a wooden chair, or he made a wooden chair with his dad. What a little three-part video series? But he's a blacksmith. Blacksmiths don't work with wood? Or they're dads. He's really breaking the mold.

They don't work with dads. So his dad, his dad makes wooden chairs, and he's been doing it for decades, and he's really good at it. So Alec went and hung out with him, and they made a chair together, and it's really, really, uh, heartwarming. Yeah, you've sent us videos by this guy before. Yeah, Alex's awesome. This is a wholesome dude. I like him. Uh, yeah, go check that out.

He got a box behind him. That's right. He does. He has dogs. He has, they have an old wood shop. It's a super cute video. He has a lot of hair compared to his dad. I'm just saying.

Oh, and cut your own tree. Fantastic. All right. Yeah, they did everything. Like, literally made it from scratch. That's amazing. That's so cool. Oh, yeah, his channel's got a lot of views.

All right, well, he's doing good. Oh, they're shown cutting the tree, and it's in the first 30% of the video. I would have missed this. Yeah. Yeah, see, Brian, don't do your 30% jump just yet. Don't do my wadsworth. All right, yes. Ooh, he does, like, thatching and what do you call that wicker stuff?

Bees, bees. All right. Bill DeRand, everybody. Punish Props.com is the place to go. Punish Props on YouTube as well. And, of course, if you would like to follow his daily musings on Twitter, you can find him at Chinbeard. Bill, thanks for hanging out with us, and we'll see you next time.

See you. Bye. This looks like a nice old dad. Totally. I like nice old dads. That's a workshop, too. Look at that. I wish my dad was around.

That'd be cool. All right. Let's now. slink our way into fun town. Okay, a couple things going on today. Schleiker is a no-go today. He's in a meeting. So I thought it'd be fun to finish reading these questions that we got on our PM episode. Oh, cool. Yeah, you were talking about copying them out to use them for a later show.

This is that later show. This is the later show, guys. This is it. So let me play the theme. Oh, that's the people's court. Hold on. Where the hell did it go? It's definitely not the people's court. Oh, I'm doing a bag of salad. That's not you. That is you. That is me, but that's no what you're looking for.

Where is it? Smoke weed every day. Oh, that's fine. We'll play that. We'll use that. Here are some quick questions that we were asked by patrons. And if you'd like to be a part of this ridiculousness, you can join the Patreon. If you haven't already, patreon.com slash TMS.

And there's a few we didn't get to. For example, Robert Harrington wrote in. Brian, I'm going to give this one to you because this just feels like a you question. Okay, sure. Given the right credit here. I think it's the top I take it back. It's Merovina, I guess. The way these are formatted, I can't tell

whose name's with what, but I think this is Merovina. What's a music album you consider to be perfect? Oh, wow. Perfect album, Brian, is what we're looking for here. A perfect album. Got it. Well, I'm going to go, let's go with an easy one, and then I'll go with a more obscure one. Easy one is the Beatles Abbey Road.

like it is solid from start to finish right like you get you get the pop songs at the beginning and then most of the second half is like a um is like one continuous song that just kind of phase from uh one to the other and so abbey road is kind of that easy one

um a little bit um more off the beaten path is uh the posies dear 23 album um that is it's not a concept album but it just feels like it does kind of tell a story and um uh that's one that i that you know i don't listen to singles from that album i listen to the whole thing start to finish um some other ones people are mentioning pet sounds by the beach boys is a great one good good poll kelly 138 um that's another one i'll listen to start to finish big audio dynamite to the globe is another good one starts with

uh rush but and you get all you get all the singles at the beginning but then after that It's just like, oh, this is some good solid, solid music after that. If I had to pick one, I'll just pick one that I always go back to and never get tired of. I think that qualifies. I never get sick of listening to American Idiot, Pye Green Day. I love that album. I love it. I love the whole thing.

I love this, especially the extended edition one that's just got like Boulevard of Broken Dreams and holiday. Is it a holiday? A holiday. Whatever it is. those two songs are actually one big giant song. People don't realize that. They were cut out. They were cut in half for singles.

Right. It's one big contiguous thing. And it's like their, it's almost like their wall kind of, um, that whole album is, it is a concept album. Yeah.

Jesus of Suburbia is huge, big, long song and it's amazing. I really like that, that album. That's a good album. As albums go, I have plenty of songs like this, right?

Oh yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. But like, there's plenty of songs where I'd go, oh, there's a song I could always listen to. or there's a whatever.

I could listen to Gay Bar any minute. I'd love that song. I want to take it to my Gay Bar. I love that song. It's so good. And then I really like, I love Weiss's Teenage Dirtbag. I could listen to that song anytime.

Right. But does the whole album hold up? No. Probably not as much. No, not even close. But that one song is the story of my youth. It's kids in the 80s trying to get a girl to. like them. It's so amazing. It's an amazing song. Anyway,

yeah, hauling oats. I'm sure that's, we're all going to agree with that one. Hollin' outs. Oh, Peter Gabriel's So album, that's a good one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Been caught stealing when I was five, Jane's Addiction. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's plenty of great songs. Full albums, that's trickier. Yeah. I just, this last weekend I was listening while I was painting, listening to Father of the Bride by Vampire Weekend, which is another good one, solid from start to finish. Thanks to, uh, one of

of the Heim sisters being in a lot of those songs on there. And as recent examples go, I swear by Hollywood is Bleeding, by that entire album by Post Malone, it's so relistenable. I can listen to that any time. And it sounds weird to give an album that new and also, you know, hip-hop dude sort of give them in that kind of credit, but I think that album's great. I could listen to it. I've never listened to it. I'll listen to the whole thing.

I know the singles, but I don't know any of the rest of the stuff. It's great. I mean, you got Ozzy in there. You got some other cool stuff. Yeah, the Tron soundtrack's great. There's plenty of good ones. All right. Here's one from, oh, Jesse Call has this question. Oh, my jerky dealer. Jerky provider. Yeah. Enjoyed a piece of that jerky last night while we were watching my recommendal for this week. See, well, Lennonade, we're going to.

have words. Leninate 3,000 says Post Malone's voice is not a voice. That's a weird thing to say. That guy can sing. Like, legit. Lennonate is really, some days, looks like they're trying to take the title away from Dice Tomato. Yeah, Dice Tomato are you catching? Is that what's going on? No,

you can say that, but I don't know if you guys are actually listening. Go listen to that newer album and you find the auto tune. I can't. It's really good. All right. Doesn't matter. His covers are great. His smells like Teen Spirit and the recent one with Darius Rucker.

Postalone did a cover with Darius Ruck. Oh, oh, the Pikachu thing. I only want to be with you. Yeah. That's him singing, man. Yeah. I was hearing a little out of tune to that one. The Gera, listen, look at this.

Scott's taste in music is atrocious. I like everything. So you're saying my taste in music, which is very broad, I like some classical. I like stuff all the way over into some, you know, hardcore metal. I like everything in between. I like New Age. I like New Wave. I like everything. I don't, there's not a kind of music I don't like. And he says I have bad taste in music. I have taste. I literally have taste in music. I taste at all. The buffet is for me.

That's right. That's funny. What a load. Oh, don't, don't, don't let DeGyri get you. Don't let him crawl out of your ear. I'm not going to eat that. I'm going to eat that bait. He's pulling that hook. Some country I'd like. Yes, Vernavina. I especially like bluegrass and like older-style country. I love that stuff. All right. Here's what song would describe your current mood, says Jesse.

Your current mood, Brian, current mood. Well, after all that, it's something with screaming in it. Now, current mood. Geez. So like if I said, all right, what mood am I in? Betty Blue by Phases. Oh, very nice. Because it's like this anticipation, like, you know, in four days I'm getting on a plane and flying somewhere.

I'm a little nervous about plane. I don't know why. You know, I've been in restaurants. I've been in groups and that sort of thing. So it's not a big deal. But there's a going on vacation vibe to that song that I just really, really like. And that is my current mood right now. I think my mood is split between.

Dead Mouse and his new track with Rez called Shit, that's a called. Hold on. I'm going to find this because it's a great recommendation. But Dead Mouse and Res, two of my favorite electronic artists right now, did a combo called, and if I could just find it, here we go, by artist. That song is called HypnoCurrency. and it's freaking great.

It's so drivey, beady, awesome. I like the name, hypnocurrency. Yeah, it's pretty good. And I just want to crank that up in my car, sunroof down, and drive, just drive. That's what I want to do right now with that song. That's the mood I'm in. But a little bit of teenage dirtbag as well.

I'm feeling that right. Just kind of a melancholy sort of, you know, I don't know, one of those things. But yeah, y'all should be listening to that. no currency. It's fantastic. All right. Cool. Even if you don't like Dead Mouse normally, there's something in this one.

Well, it's probably Res, but it's a really good collaboration. All right. Next question. We got somebody else says I have a top 40 like of music. What are you talking about? Don't get on there. Lennonade, you should see my playlist. You're an insane person.

All right, moving on. Brian, what you're, okay, Brian, this is rapid fire. You can't hesitate on these questions. No hesitation. What is your favorite color? Red. Smell. Chocolate chip cookies, fresh baked.

Food. Sushi. I was always what we'd say. Chocolate chip cookies, fresh baked. That's right. Don't give me any sushi that smells like chocolate chip cookies, though. No. I'll be freaked out.

No. All right. How about this one? What would you call your own cryptocurrency, says Brian Mitchell Young. Oh, geez. That's great. Let's see. What would we call it?

If it was TMS, it would be called Chestercoin. Chester coin, Chester coin! Chester coin! That's great! Yeah, if it's just CoverVille, cover coins easy. Yeah, I didn't want to go with the obvious. Sfuge coins. Oh, now they're saying I'm easy to bait.

I just got to hide the chat room. I'm hiding you. You do? Goodbye. Sometimes you guys are jerks, and today you're being. jerks. All right, moving on. Not all of you. Some of you are fine. Some of you are being buttholes. All right, moving on. How about this one? What's

the deal with Ovalteen? Says Brian Mitchell Young. I don't know. Yeah, it's somewhere between 13 and 19 is Ovalteen, and I can't figure out where to put it when I start counting above 12. Yeah, it's that one prime number I just can't get my head around.

That's right. What do you mean? What's the deal with Ovalteen? It's a delicious multi-chocolity beverage. It is indeed. I just can't do the regular milk anymore. I don't know how that stuff does. I guess it would be fine in almond milk. There you go.

J.K. would be, and oat milk could be all right in that. I'm all about the oat milk now. Yeah, I like the oat milk. Love it. J.K. Grammer asked, what's the piece of art slash 3D printing you're most proud of? Art-wise, for me, probably...

I don't know if I have a single thing. Geez. I don't know. Well, I'm probably most proud of that comic compilation book I did in 2015. So I'll just say that whole book. There's a lot of art in there. And I know this is a cheap answer, but I don't really have a thing where I'm like, now that's my. Okay, I got one.

Recently I did the dude that runs like an alchemy stand in like a fantasy setting. And I drew this guy out front. He's blind. And there's like a snake in front of him. and then behind him's all these like oddities, like skulls and claws and weird stuff, and it's super detailed out. I think I'm pretty proud of that one. So there you go.

I don't even know what to call that one, but I'll say that one. Brian, do you have a 3D print? You're like, oh, man. A 3D print. See, that's a weird one because most of the 3D printing I do is something somebody else came up with. But, I mean, I did, oh, there's not an easy way to lift this thing up, is there? Oh, there is. Okay.

I created, this is something I designed, maybe. several iterations of and finally printed and then put online but is this it's this Apple phone holder that is works with MagSafe so basically you just put your

you put your phone on there oh yeah like that and it holds it and you can even you know strong enough you can turn it sideways look at that right that's very cool and then you you go by a washer from Ace Hardware like one of these big heavy brass washers yeah

And you put it in there, and it's got enough weight that it holds this thing down on your desk so it doesn't slide around when you... Like, I can pull my phone off of there without just pulling the whole thing apart. That's really cool. So that's the thing. The other thing I'm proud of is a spoon holder that we have by our coffee setup upstairs that holds the spoon in a vertical position over a slightly concave. surface, but the spoon doesn't sit in its own coffee swill, right? It just like, it just hovers above it. And so I actually had to use our current spoons, figure out the size, get dimensions, and

that sort of thing. Current spoons is a cool band name. Current spoons would be my cover band. Let's think. Current spoon. Oh, I know. it's your, um, it's your, um, your Chris Cornell cover man. Oh, there you go.

The spoon man. That's the only comparison I'm going to go. Sure. Uh-huh. Spoon man. Nope, you haven't distracted me at all, Claire. She's always distracting. She's trying to, like all caps. Brian, hi, hello.

Oh, she's trying to do it. She's making the effort, I see. She is, exactly. Well, I wouldn't know. I know you're not watching anymore. So like they're going to try and get to you via me. Yeah, I'm currently hiding the chat room. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. all right one uh let's do one more of these uh we got one from uh here we go okay i know that brian has gigs and gigs of songs that says this is from grahamcracker but how many gigs of gifts does scott have well yeah because you pull in new ones all the time to like promote the shows and stuff i do i make my own kind of basically um i prefer making my own but um sometimes they come from like a weird TikTok video I saw or like a fail video or something we did or something from

one of the film sack movies or whatever. Film sack usually, yep. But I don't, here's the funny bit. I only keep around probably 12 GIFs for like Twitter answers. Like if I'm going to mute somebody, I have some very creative mute gifs. I love using those. Right. But mostly I keep them on the cloud.

I have an account on Giffy and they all stay up there. Yeah, which is a smart place to store it all. Well, yeah, plus, if I could keep all my music up there, I would, but I can't. Right. And gifts are big. They're as big as songs are. Like a little two-second gift can be five to eight megabytes. So why keep that all on a hard drive?

There's no real point to it. So it's all in the cloud. And I can get to it any time I do too. So that's what I... Currently, by the way, 657 gigabytes of music, of songs. And that doesn't include Andrew Allen's stuff. That doesn't include, you know, archived songs that I guess. got out of my library just to keep it from being super bugged down.

When you hit a terabyte, that'll be a cool day. We should talk about that when that happens. Yeah. When that happens, we should make a giant deal out of it on here. You know, just celebrate. And we'll have a celebration to raise money for an external SSD to put it all on. Perfect. Okay, here is a Monday morning mashup now.

I've been excited to play this for a bit because Jamie's giving me all kinds of like early warning that it's awesome. So they always are, so I don't know why he would wonder if I thought it would be great, but it's probably great. So here it is. It's called Nicolisms.

Nicolisms. Sorry, Nicoleisms. That's hilarious that I said that wrong when it's all about. How appropriate, yes. Yeah, that worked out great. So here it is. Enjoy.

That's the space bar. Space bar. Oh, the space bar on the, Claire is not even in this game. is playing this game so freaking hard. What was the movie with Cure Knightley and Steve Cantrell? Cantell? I don't know. Who?

Kira Knightley and who? Steve Karel? It's been a while since we've had a good Nicoleism. Yeah, that's good. Who's the speedy guy? Yeah. Run bummer. Whatever his name is.

Speedman. What is it? Lightning McQueen. A-Train, that's it. A-Train. You mean it's not run-bumber? I can't imagine that it wasn't run-bumber. We ate your wiener. It was fine.

You're our next contestant on The Price is Wrong, bitch. Thank you, Shave Max. That was probably one of my favorite end-of-the-world movies. Hold on. Who shaved Max? Shave Maddox. Sorry. Shave Maddox, got it.

All right. No, you're fine. You're good. I said, I didn't see the... Max Fury Road. Not so Furry Road. There we go. Shaved Max, not so furry road.

Why is it so funny? Oh, did I forget to take that out? Sorry. All right. Yes, it's my maid, Claire Gack. Her name is Kim Johnson. I married my maid. Physically correct boy doll, is their words.

Just say he has a penis. Golly. Just, you know. It's weird. Just say that he's got a meat head. Yeah. His head is of meat. He is of meat.

He's got a meat head. May it's because you wear the hats and the shirts and the funny stuff and like nerdtaculars or whatever. Pimps wear funny hats. Yeah. Every single time you say, Gerard, I think Gerard Debuttoe. Debutteau.

Debrotu! Gerard Debtabatoo! I'm just going to stop talking. Gerard deba-di-d-dab-di-d-a-da-a-da. But every time you think Gerard, I think of the Gerard. I get mad. I'm not even going to try. I'm the worst. De-Pardu? De-Pardu. Yeah. Depardu.

De-partoo. DePartu is not the right word. I should have used Zoe for you, UK listeners. Yeah, that's a penis. That is a penis. Yeah. Your knob. Stick your knob. I guess you don't want to say any gob, because that's a whole different thing. Well, because a gob is your mouth, see.

A gob is your mouth, exactly. So you don't want to put your god near your knob. Tim Horton, got the superpower of invisible lightning. In the daytime, he's Tim Horton. At night, he's Invisible Lightning. He's Tim Bits. Tim Bits. He's got the best coffee, and he'll save you from a fire, bra.

Here I go. Don Chito, Dermick-Role. Can't even save him. Patrick War Button, Meredith Steenberger. I don't think we need to get you with the Oscars is announcing. And your nominees are. Give me a list of names and I'll just start reading them. Maybe that'll make some people happy.

I'd do an entire, like, episode with her just reading Hollywood names. Absolutely, yes. So good. All right. Well, Nicole, thanks for letting us have fun at your expense. You need to do a celebrity gossip podcast with Nicole. I'm all in. All right.

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but only really the first three-fifths. Yeah, it's really the first three-fifths of the week before Brian and I are out of town. But we appreciate you all letting us do that and we look forward to coming back and tell in stories about all the weird stuff we saw. Hopefully nobody cutting themselves on a pipe. All right, Brian, let's get out of here

with some sort of, oh, I don't know, music, I guess. Music, some sort of a music, Chris, a.k.a. Mr. Kai in the chat room wrote in, said, Dear Headmaster and Guy in the booth, wow, we're going back. As I turn the age of the answer to life, the universe, and everything, I figure it's time for another birthday request, but this time I would like to change things up. I would like to request a cover from either of the punk bands that I've discovered recently, either from Boy Hero or One Last Night, I would really appreciate it. Since my birthday is on May 15th, and it's on a Saturday any day from May 17th to the 8th,

18th would be great. Wow. Very specific. Much respect and thank you for all the amazing shows. Kitakona, Kengbakit mostia gusto, which is I can definitely see why you like it, translated from Filipino. Oh, wow. Let's hear how that sounds in English.

I can definitely see why you like it. Pretty, pretty accurate. Pretty accurate. Yeah, sounded accurate. Very cool. Yeah, so thank you for letting me know about these bands. I hadn't heard Boy Hero or Our Last Night. I think he wrote one last night, but I found it on Hira's hour last night and a bunch of great covers.

I was really trying to decide between wait for it from Hamilton or how far I'll go from Moana, the Disney movie, from Boy Hero. I'm going with the latter. We're going with How Far I'll Go because it is just such a great song. Here is Boy Hero, a single that they released in 2017, a cover of that song from, Moana called How Far I'll Go. Van's favorite film by the way. Loves that movie. He's really? He loves it. He's always going Moana.

You're welcome. Yep. Have Moana, you make way. He doesn't sing it, but he loves it. Oh, that's so cool. It's good movie, so I don't blame him. All right, that's it. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a fantastic day.

We'll see you then. I've been standing at the edge of the water long as I can't remember never really knowing why I wish I could be the perfect order but I come back to the water no matter how hard I try every turn I take every trail I track every path I make every road leads back to the place I know where can I go though I love to be See the line where the sky needs to see it calls me And no one knows how far it goes If the winds and my sails on the sea stays behind me

One day I'll know If I go there's just no telling how far I'll go I'll go. I know everybody on this island seems so happy on this island, everything is by design. I know everybody on this island has a role on this island, so maybe I can roll with mine. I can lead with pride. I can lead with pride. I can make us strong. I'll be satisfied if I play along But the voice inside

She's a different song What is wrong with me To save the light as it shines From the sea, it's blinding But no one knows How deep it goes And it seems like it's going out to me So come find me

And let me know What's beyond that line Will I cross that line? See the line where the sky needs to sink echoes me And no one knows how far it goes If the winds and my sail and the sea stays behind me What do you know how far I'll go This is part of the frogpan.

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