The Morning Stream - TMS 2121: Don't Woo In My Car!

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

Do You Even Lyft In Vegas, Bro?? STEVE AND BRIAN ARE ON DRUGS! Gidgit's time of the month. That is so ReeeeeeeDICULOUS. Don't Take The Piss, Brian! Two Weeks In Vegas Makes a Cover-Driver Humble... If... I Hear a Woot, You Get The Boot! Colonel-tested, Colonel-approved. Ain't No Rides for the Wooish. Putting Love-Hearts On This Bastard! Schwan's Guy at the door. Tarps and Barf Bags. Will Smith's Eurovision. I was only a little stoned and drunk. The Only Thing Scott Knows About Iceland: BJORK. and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by RISE, a science-based app that makes it easy to improve your sleep and daily energy. Go to RISEcience.com slash TMS and download the RISE app today and try it for free for seven days. Coming up on TMS, do you ever lift in Vegas, bro? Steve and Brian are on drugs. Gidget's time of the month. That is so ridiculous. Don't take the piss, Brian. Two weeks in Vegas makes a cover driver humble.
Starting point is 00:00:28 If I hear a woot, you get the boot. Colonel tested. Colonel approved. Ain't no rides for the wooish. Put the love hearts on this bastard. Schwann's guy at the door. Tarps and barf bags. Will Smith's Eurovision.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I was only a little stoned and drunk. The only thing Scott knows about Iceland. Bork. And more. Wendy, by the way. Therapy Thursday and more on this episode of the morning stream. Don't ever call me old man, you little punk. That's my foot.
Starting point is 00:00:55 It was a dream that I saw. A dream. Greetings, Earthlady, may I interest you in some guacamole? This is the morning stream. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to TMS, the morning stream for Thursday, May 27th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson. and I'm here with Brian Ibbett.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Hi, I'm here on the scene. It's an interesting Thursday out here on the street. We'll pull up somebody and talk to them and find out their opinion on what's just happened. Great. That's after the weather and this commercial break, everybody. See in a bit. Anyway, hey, we're back. It's Thursday.
Starting point is 00:01:48 It's weird. It's a week ago we weren't here. Right. A week ago, well, the week ago I was still here. I wasn't in the plane. But, golly, man. Vegas doesn't seem like a whole week ago. You flew to Vegas a week ago.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And I feel like we just got done talking about it. And now here, I'm telling you, time's busted. It's broken. Time is busted. Yeah, I don't like it. So, you know, I was talking to Tina about this. And one of the things that is going on right now in Vegas, I think going on everywhere based on a couple people that I've talked to, is that Lyft and Uber are really hard to come by right now. Um, like they, you know, lost a lot of, a lot of employees just said, bam, done for the pandemic and didn't come back after the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And for example, if you fly into Vegas right now and expect to Uber or lift from the airport, good luck. It's like you're going to basically be waiting for, um, for 45 minutes for a ride. We actually walked by the place where people were waiting for a ride and it was crazy. Oh, wow. Um, so everything's going to taxis. So this is a shortage of drivers, I assume. shortage of drivers and it even happened like while we were out doing things my first thought was to say oh let's see if we can get a lift because maybe we weren't at a hotel where you can just walk out the front door and have a taxi line we're at a restaurant or off strip or arts district or something like that and you're really reliant on um on the services that come to you and i know you can call a taxi i know that's a thing you can do i heard it talked about. There's an app called Curb now where you can you can reserve a
Starting point is 00:03:33 like get a taxi just as easily as you do lift an Uber. Just like a good old fashioned ass taxi, dirty and everything, right? Right, exactly. So I was talking with Tina and I said, God, you know, now would be a great time. If I could take a week off of work, and I'm just talking work work, work. I'm not talking about this work that we do here. Go out to Vegas, get a room with the Cosmopolitan, do TMS in the morning, and then lift, do, you know, be a lift driver for the whole rest of the day, or at least whatever they're cut off. I think they make you cut off at eight hours. Then do eight hours, go sit in the pool, get a nice dinner somewhere, and then go to sleep and do it all over for seven days. I feel like I'd make it killing right now.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You probably do pretty well, yeah. And are you, I don't know how it works. Are you licensed to do it anywhere you want. That's a question, right? If I'm licensed, if I got my lift approval here in Colorado, does that mean I can go anywhere in Lyft or? I don't know. I just know we would have a lot of content if you drove every day. We'd have a lot of content. And I don't think, oh man, I don't think I could do the post 10 PM lift driving in Vegas. Not without like filling the backseat with
Starting point is 00:04:55 tarp and barf bags and uh yeah it's i would not i would i almost have to rent a car to lift after it's it's sketchy in the daytime i don't know how i can't imagine what nights are like around there but yeah um i think it's everywhere too it's not just Vegas but Vegas probably hit more in particular because that's how everybody wants to get around nobody wants to rent a car or have a car if they can help it so unless you're you know yeah tanner uh talked to tanner this morning he said that it's that lift and uber are um hard to find out there as well Yeah, and he's in Arizona. They're hard to find here.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Oh, here we go. What's that? Driving in different cities. Thank you, Pops and Recline. Drivers can only have one approved driving region on their profile at a time. However, it's possible to temporarily drive in a different region. If you want to drive outside your approved region temporarily, look at this site for region-specific requirements. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So temporarily, let's go to Nevada. Nevada driver information. Yeah, I'd love to know what a region is in their definition. That's right. So it looks like... Because regional to me says the West or the Rocky Mountains or the, you know, region is more than just like a city. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Let's see. It doesn't say anything about... temporary oh wow i have to get a nevada tnc permit number decal so i'd actually have to have an approved vehicle like my vehicle would have to be approved uh in uh the state of nevada that's a lot more work for a one week stay you know yeah i'd have to make it two weeks now yeah stay a month in Vegas why not that's right exactly yeah i don't know you're not wrong that there's something there there there is and there would be so much great content for the show.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That's all the excuse we need. It's all the excuse we need, really. I mean, yeah, why do I need to go any further than that? Yeah, that's all I need. Just to hear, I want to hear Brian's weird-ass stories of people in Vegas drunk out of their minds at 8 a.m. or whatever. And I guess we'd be doing the show then, but yeah, that's super interesting. You probably, I mean, I assume if the demand's high enough,
Starting point is 00:07:14 you'd probably make enough on the lift stuff to 100% pay for the trip and then some. Easily pay for the hotel. And, I mean, obviously, I'd be driving out there, so I wouldn't have a plane ticket to pay for it, but certainly pay for the gas to get out there. Oh, right, because you'd have your car. Duh. Yep. You kind of need the car for the lift. I need the car, so I can't fly out there.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, it just gives me a little anxiety to think about driving around at night on the strip, picking up people and moving them around. Yeah, you don't. You just basically, if you're taxing or driving for Lyft or Uber, you go Dean Martin Way, you go. Coval Road. I mean, basically, you just don't go on the strip. You go parallel. You'd have to. You'd have to. 15. Suddenly realizing that whenever I've done lifts or Ubers in Vegas, how much they probably
Starting point is 00:08:03 loved me, because it was at night and we were just moving around, but we're not, we're not, we're not puking in the back seat. You're not, oh, my goodness, my friend. Hi, Lisa. Hey, roll down your window. We're super friendly. We're like, hey, I like this car. Thanks for the water ball.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You know, we're, like, super, like, we probably made their nights for all I know. Thinking about it now. Because otherwise, you get on the tail end to somebody's, like, bachelorette party. You may as well just. I know that's the thing, right? I don't want the woo crowd. No woo crowd in the back of my car. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:40 If you woo, you're out. Yeah, if you woo, you woo even one time, one time wooing. Out of here, buddy. We're here because my friend Lisa's getting married. Woo! All right, get the hell out. Get out of my car. Get out of my Kia Soul now.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Exactly. All right. Well, there's that. You get that on my anchor dash cam. I sure hope so. Yeah. Like the Russians. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:09:02 That's right. Exactly. Yeah, they film everything. Okay, a couple emails real quick, and then we're going to get to some trivial things with Gidgett. Yes, it's that time of the month, everybody. It's Gidgett's time of the month. It's that time of the month.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah. So we're going to celebrate that in a minute. But first off, we got this email from, well, people in countries that aren't on ours. Yes. Christian from Sweden in particular says long-time fan of all things frog pants. It's so funny listening to you guys try to figure out words and letters from other countries. The A with the two dots over it from Eurovision winner, Manskin or whatever, is a letter we use mostly here in Sweden. It's also not the two dots though. It's not it's just the single donut. It's just the donut. Oh, I can't read this font very well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So that's a donut. That's a circle. Yeah, it's a circle. Okay. I need to blow it up. Anyway, says we use it mostly in Sweden, but also Norway and Denmark. The bassist from Manskin is from Denmark. Also, Brian should listen to the French contribution. That's my favorite from this year. Love the show, though. Christian. Is it safe?
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's my favorite line from the French contribution. Love that scene. Oh, it's so good. And that car chase, man. That's right. Under the bridges. Whoa, it's so great. Still can't beat that.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Did you hear any of the music provided by the Eurovision? I have not heard. I've not heard anything from the Eurovision Song Contest. Yeah, yeah. Did I tell you that I came home drunk, you know, a couple months ago. Oh, that was a good thing, last night. Okay. The last night.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Came home drunk a couple months ago from Crazy Neighbors' House, dinner, and stuff like that, and could not sleep. So I decided I'd watch the Will Ferrell Eurovision Song Contest thing on Netflix. Oh, yeah. how was that i have no idea i remember the opening credits and really that's it that's all i remember so that's unfortunate but but netflix does show that i watched it oh that's hilarious and you don't and you don't know what you you don't remember any of it don't remember any of it yeah i might have to i think i might have to watch it again just to see what i heard it was uh i don't know it sounded like it was a hit and miss deal depending on who you were and what your
Starting point is 00:11:17 what your stomach was for that sort of stuff. So I guess maybe one day I'll try it. Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably what you would expect from a Will Smith, or I'm sorry, Will Ferrell comedy thing, right? Right. Yeah. He's no, you know, his stuff's going to have a certain range to it. And then you're either going to like that or you're not.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Exactly. I like most of his movies. I do too. I'd probably like it. But you know what you pretty much know what you're going and getting, what you're going when you go and you're going. Yeah, I like Will Ferrell. I unapologetically.
Starting point is 00:11:47 we'll watch something like, you know, Talladega Nights or something and have a good time. That's kind of the level, right? I don't think it's going to be on the level of everything must go or what was the one where Emma Thompson narrated his life. Yeah, it was
Starting point is 00:12:02 but, um, not book. He, yeah, he walked around and her voice was like, Stranger than fiction. That's it. Stranger than fiction.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Great movie. Yeah. Great movie. Bad title. Oh yeah. Terrible title. It's awful. Unmemorable title.
Starting point is 00:12:15 He's not in the Truman show, Luke. Luke Skywalker Will Ferrell's nowhere near the Truman Show. I don't know where you got that show. I love the Truman Show, though. All right. Moving on. We got this other follow-up here from Tim,
Starting point is 00:12:29 and I just had to read this because I don't know why I find it so funny. It's a funny email. Yeah, go for it. He starts off with Steve and Brian are on drugs. I guess I'm the Steve in this area. Already off to a great start, Tim. Yeah. Some people do this.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Like if anyone ever misses my name up, it's almost always Steve. That happens a lot, but it's only with people who aren't really paying attention. Tim, I think you haven't been paying attention. Anyway, Steve and Brian are on drugs. Really boring drugs.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Modoc is the funniest show since Harley Quinn. I laughed my ass off on every episode, and I was only somewhat stoned and drunk. They probably are boomer sitcoms. They probably like boomer sitcoms like Friends in Seinfeld. I don't think Tim knows what a boomer is. I don't think so either, but I really like, I was only somewhat stoned and drunk. Yeah, only a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Just enough to remember my name is Steve. Oh, maybe he missed Steven Schleiker because that's where the discussion happened. Maybe that's what he meant. Because I didn't have an opinion because I haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen it. No, that's right. It was me and Stephen talking about how we thought it was meh. All right, well, I guess I'll stop taking the really boring drugs and start taking whatever you're taking because
Starting point is 00:13:46 Apparently, that's what I need. Exactly. Now, let's make some additional clarification here. Luke in the chat follows up with. You guys do like old shows. That doesn't mean they're boomer sitcoms. Yeah. Let's discuss what a boomer sitcom is.
Starting point is 00:13:59 That's more like Green Acres or freaking... You know what I mean? Like, you get your era correct. In the 90s, we watched two shows called Seinfeld and Friends, although mostly Seinfeld for me. It wasn't really a friend's guy. Yeah, I Love Lucy. All in the Family. Those are boomer shows.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Okay? Generation X, and honestly, we don't give a shit if you forget about us. It's fine. Go ahead and forget about us. You don't care. We love it because we're, you know, we had a Marvel comic named after us with a bunch of mutants. That's right. And also, the defining point of a Gen Xer is that we don't care what you think.
Starting point is 00:14:35 We don't. So go do your thing. Call me Steve. He probably met Stephen. I think he did mean Steven Schlecker, yeah. Yeah, you'll have to watch a couple episodes of Modoc and let me know what you think. but it's it's a very adequate show. I mean, do you think you're,
Starting point is 00:14:53 not that you had some crazy anticipation for it, but do you think it that, I had some crazy anticipation because it was Pat and Oswald and it's a character I like, and I feel like there is a lot of potential there. But knowing that it was robot chicken, you know, it's from the stupid, former stupid monkey, now stupid buddy group.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. um kind of set set my expectations not lower but in a different direction knowing all right well that's the level of humor it's going to be it's going to be the humor of um robot chicken where you're laughing as much at the premise as you are at the jokes right or maybe even more at the premise right yeah okay what if he man was a gynecologist i kind of don't love that oh have the power right see that's a that's a that's a robot chicken thing. It works for one joke and then it's, and then they move to another
Starting point is 00:15:49 one. Yeah. If that's what you're telling me. Yeah. By the way, I just came up with a really funny robot chicken joke. Yeah, it's actually pretty good. I'll watch it and then I'll withhold judgment until I see it, but you telling me that is, you know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:16:06 All right. Anyway, what I want to say is, just to all those people out there that are like boomer shows, okay? You're aging at the same rate we all are. So, right so enjoy getting here and going oh dear i did get older and i'd still like some things that i saw when i was in my 20s like i was in my 20s when seinfeld was big and i love signfeld guess what whatever it is you like in your 20s you're going to like it when you're 50 that's just the way it is
Starting point is 00:16:34 everybody ages so knock it off anyway tim uh f off and enjoy yourself all right moving on there you go by the way did you hear um uh speaking of of marvel characters. I put this on Twitter this morning but they've cast so Sony's continuing to make the and friends movies around Spider-Man so obviously we're getting
Starting point is 00:16:56 the Carnage movie, we're getting Mobius, I'm sorry, Morbius at the beginning of the year next year. And now they've cast Craven the Hunter for Craven the Hunter movie and it's the dude who played Quicksilver in
Starting point is 00:17:13 the Age of Ultron Oh, right. So they're mixing... Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah, the one that isn't the one that they brought back for... Not Evan Peters. Evan Peters. Right. Evan Peters? I think Eders.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Oh, don't I tell you that? I forgot to tell you that guy's in that show. I was recommending that mayor of East Town or whatever. Oh, is he cool? I like him a lot. He's awesome. He's always been good in the American Horror Story stuff. Yeah, what's weird though is you're used to him playing a young dude. And in this mayor show, he's not. he's like, and he's not in real life, he's like 35 or something.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I mean, he's older guy, you know, mid, middle, getting toward the middle age there. And he's, and he's great. He plays this out-of-town detective and really add something to the show. I like him a lot. Yeah, I like him. Yeah, he's the American horror story. He's the young kid who was, like, in the very first season with Dermit, McRolney, burning his junk on the stove.
Starting point is 00:18:08 He's, he was the ghost of the kid who died in that house or something. Right. right um but anyway so craven though is like a big beefy you know muscular dude and i feel like erin taylor johnson's just a little a little waf of a man yeah yeah yeah right like he is a little tiny uh little wispy guy so who knows but all this like weird crossover of people who were formerly in another mc u thing moving over to a sony mc u ish thing adjacent thing is just a an odd thing, but I guess the Chris Evans thing already did that, and we should be used to it by now.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Right. Right. There's been plenty of crossovers. It feels like there's maybe five people in Hollywood and they're all getting MCU jobs. The Thanos Cable Oh, right. I keep forgetting he was great. Brolin, yeah. Wasn't he some, um,
Starting point is 00:19:02 no, I'm thinking of somebody else. He was this. Oh, shit. He was something else. Anyway. But I guess you could be an actor and be in the Sony Marvel movies. Yeah. The Disney Marvel movies. Um, But now I guess you can't be in the Fox Marvel movies or the X-Men movies because... I mean, you can, but you can...
Starting point is 00:19:20 It'll be a whole new era where it's all together. It'll be Disney X-Men movies. Yeah, Fox is out. No more Fox, yo. Unless they do, like, you know, they want to get, I guess, like, Deadpool dirty. They may still do it under that name. I don't know. I don't know what their plans are.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah, Miravina, we're talking about the guy who played Wanda's brother in the age of Ultron. not Wanda's brother when he appeared in Wanda Vision Correct, which was the weird That's why that was crazy Yeah Because they were flipped They were messing with us
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah And it didn't quite pay off Yeah, he was in kick ass as well Yeah Didn't quite pay off So yeah another comic book property Not Marvel but Oh yeah right
Starting point is 00:19:58 Do you think Sorry one last question Before we turn to The trivia thing Trivial things Do you think we ever get Nicholas Cage in a proper
Starting point is 00:20:09 MCU film or is he going to be you know he was in kick ass he's in some like odd things but you know
Starting point is 00:20:18 we can ever get yes I'll bet we do eventually who would Nicholas Cage you need somebody kind of
Starting point is 00:20:26 he's such a comic nerd you know like yeah exactly but he's more of a DC guy right I think he'd say no I'm holding out for Superman
Starting point is 00:20:33 I really want to play Superman I had for just a second I was in Tim Burton Superman For a split second. Who would he be? Oh, Ghost Rider. Duh.
Starting point is 00:20:44 He's already Ghost Rider. Oh, of course, duh. He wasn't Ghost Rider. What did I think? He's literally going to. Not an official MCU. Like, you're talking to MCU, but yeah, I did forget on.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. I just forgot he did it. So that what that tells you need to know about how Ghost Rider went. And I love Ghost Rider as a concept and as a comic. It's rad. But those movies are. Well, those movies are about that. Son of the Jeff, Ghost Rider was not good, but you should still watch it and then listen to our film sack about it.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, do that. I mean, Son of the Jeff is kind of young. What are you? Sixth grade, I think. I don't know. I don't know. It's not scary. It's just dumb.
Starting point is 00:21:21 It's just dumb. All right. We're going to now do this. Now this. Yes. I forgot what I was doing. Oh, yeah. Madden.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, Gidgett. Okay. Here she comes, everybody. Walking down the street. Something, something with everyone. that she meets. Hey, hey, it's Gidgett. Oh, there she is.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Okay, now I'm going to play her thing. Where is it? Here it is. Oops, trivial things. Where are you? I can't find you. Ah, crap. Trivial things.
Starting point is 00:21:48 There it is. I found it. There she is. She said she shaved her legs for us. Did you hear about that? She told me that too. Yeah. I did that and I'm also stoned and drunk.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So you get the package. Oh, so when you're done, you should go watch Modoc. Yeah, it seems so. Yeah. Apparently, it's way better. You guys were talking Eurovision. I'm a massive Eurovision fan. I used to date the host for Australian Eurovision before we were entered in Eurovision.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Whoa. Way back. And I got to go to Latvia and Turkey for free. Whoa. Because I was rooting the host. So Latvia is like, oh, that's the one where George almost joins the faith because he likes the girl that's there. Speaking of Seinfeld, that's all I have, that's the only thing I have.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Is that some boomer sitcom I used to watch? Laughter in Latvia, it's a new TV show. It's very funny. Yeah. So, wait, you didn't. Latvia is where Dr. Doom is president, right? Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. It may as well be. It's like one of those kind of countries, right? That's the idea. No, no, no. It was great. I was really lucky when I went there, you know, Russia had lost its grasp of that. along with Estonia and Lithuania, I think it is,
Starting point is 00:23:10 those three little countries on the side there. So it was just all full of young people because all the old people were like, well, like the Russian style, we got back to Russia. So they all bug it off back to Russia. So it was all just young, groovy people there. And I had a great time. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What year is this? As I said, I'm a massive Eurozone fan. And this year, I wasn't worried that us, Australia, didn't even make it to the final. Fine. Yeah, whatever. probably shouldn't be in it in the first place. We've done pretty well.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You're not in Europe. It's not Osiravision. Yeah, but Israel's in it. Yeah. And they're not Europe. They shouldn't be either. They shouldn't be either, damn it. I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Take them out. Everybody who's not in Europe shouldn't be in it. It's weird. You know, the only thing that the Eurovision knows is they've got to keep your yanks out because you'll send a Beyonce or something, you know, and then everyone. We'd send you a dottery or. or Beau Bice or something like that and just clean up the Eurovision.
Starting point is 00:24:08 You know, you'd send something that would just, everyone would just be like, I'm out and gone, thanks. But can I say, Iceland? I heard you boys say you haven't listened to any of the songs. No. No. There are some great songs. I know people laugh at Eurovision,
Starting point is 00:24:22 but these are truly talented singers with truly good songs. And Iceland should have won this year for 2021. Was it Bjork? Did she perform? Bjork? No. No. No. I mean, I'm terrible. I can't remember the name of them. But they're really quirky and really funny, and it's a really catchy song. And they've got a huge amount of followers on YouTube and watches on YouTube. It's just incredibly catchy. But there were some great songs this year. There really was. So it's worth checking out Americans. You know, guys, Tumina makes a great point. It's kind of surprising with 50 years of history of Eurovision that the U.S. hasn't said, let's come up with Amerivision and have each.
Starting point is 00:25:03 date, you know, have a band, submit a song and, uh, compete like this. That would be, I, I agree, I agree. I'm, I'm quite amazed. I mean, you know, you've got the voice and you've got X Factor and stuff like that. But, um, to, to do like a regional and you could include, uh, Canada, Alaska, uh, South America, you could have your own version of Eurovision. Yeah. Uh, but it's America vision.
Starting point is 00:25:33 or something like that, you know. I'd be, I'd like it except the name. They'd have to fiddle with the name, but, yeah, we'd have to get, uh, let's get Elizabeth Olson, uh, Olson to, uh, host it. It'll call it Wanda Vision. Yeah, Wanda Vizabeth. Oh, it's already, oh, shoot. Well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:25:48 Um, all right. Oh, and Brian, I know that you were drunk when you watch the, the Will Farrell. Yeah. Let's say watched in quotes. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, watched. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:58 But, um, you, you should rewatch it again because it is fully entertaining. And actually, a lot of Eurovision, really full-on Eurovision, people said to me, I don't want to watch it because they're making fun of Eurovision. They don't. So all I can say is play Ja-Jajah-Ding-dong. Okay, sure. That came up a lot in the chat room, J-Jas-Ding-dong. J-Jas-Ding-dong.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Although the big song from that film, apparently, was one of the best song nominees at the Oscars. Really? From the movie, right. From the movie, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, look, it's fully entertaining. And actually, if you're a Eurovision fan, they've got a lot of the Eurovision acts in this big musical number right in the middle of it. And it's, look, it's not, I was expecting a full on comedy.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It wasn't. It was more sort of a, it was a semi-comedy love letter to Eurovision. So I think that's nice. Because I think Will Farrell's wife's Swedish or something like that. So he knew about Eurovision. Yeah. And Rachel, you know, obviously, was. part of all those
Starting point is 00:27:02 those singing American singing competition movies so she knows about singing even though she didn't do her own singing right right so there you go all right cool I'll check it out now the trick is
Starting point is 00:27:15 can we do trivial things in 19 minutes let's see if it's possible well we're going to try we're sure going to try what's our topic this week I think I know but I can't remember now okay so it is films of 1990
Starting point is 00:27:29 not 19 the not the decade of 1990s, which I said on Twitter. Just 1990. Just 1990 itself. Okay. All right. Real boomer town. And can I quickly just do a shout out to, I think he's one of your discord people.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Is it Clark? Frank Info. No. Don't take the piss, Brian, little shit. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:57 No. How are you going? Info sent me this really nice feature. feedback on on discord and if you want to capture it you can read it i won't read it all out right now but yeah he sent he sent me this lovely thing and he's now listening to retro cinema so thank you frank info that's very sweet i do listen i do read everything so awesome okay you've apparently printed out too i i was nearly going to put love hearts on this bastard i can tell you that right now that's what boomers do they print out there that oh there we
Starting point is 00:28:31 I love her. Very good. Yeah, there we go. Okay. All right. 17 minutes. Excellent. And for those just listening to this and not watching, tune in and watch it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Because there's lots of stuff that happens on camera that you don't see when you're listening in your car. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, number one. Okay. Hiding the chat room now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I just forgot. Okay. All right. Some easy ones, some hard ones. I tested it on kernel as I always do. And got some. Miss a couple. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Great. All right. So, who wants to go first? Well, who won? Are we tied up? I think we're tied up, right? I think we're tied up. I think you won last time.
Starting point is 00:29:10 So Brian should go first. I'll go first this time, sure. Okay. I'll take odds. Scott gets evens. Yep. Until one of us. Some as big as your hair.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Who's that? Mirrogyne Phoenix. 15 minutes now. 15 minutes. Oh, you're coughing. It's still waiting for a question number. Question one. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So, Scott. All right. So the movie goes. Me actually. Okay. Oh, Brian. That's Brian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I'm taking odds. Scott's got even. Quit looking at the chat. You're worse than that. I know. Yeah. We know exactly where the chat room is on your screen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 You cheeky lads. All right. Okay. Let's go. All right. The pressure is on. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:55 So number one is to Scott. No. Brian. It's to me. Brian. Brian. Brian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Okay. Brian. All right. This is the movie. ghost. Okay? So number one, to prove that he is present as a ghost, what object does Sam pick up to move across the room in front of Molly? Is it A, a glass, B, a penny? C, a thimble, or D, a piece of paper? He does a penny and he like moves it up the, up a glass window or something, like as he's... The door. Or a door, that's right. Push it up the door. Yep, well done.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Nicely done. Tick. Damn wheat Yeah Well done Um Okay Scott Yeah
Starting point is 00:30:35 So home alone Yeah Is the movie Number two The burglars in home alone Call themselves A The bad guys
Starting point is 00:30:43 B The Secret Santa's C The Christmas bandits Or D The Wet Bandits Oh Oh
Starting point is 00:30:51 I don't remember that Um The Um The Christmas Bandits. The wet bandits. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Because they left the water running in places that they rob or something? I couldn't remember the reason for that. I don't remember that. The chat room knew it. I don't remember that. They all knew it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I love the movie, but it's been years. It's so long since I've seen that. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, Brian, you stole that one. Okay, it's Total Recall. Number three.
Starting point is 00:31:28 What is the name of? of Doug Quaid's wife, played by Sharon Stone, is it A, Tony, B, Lisa, C, Lorry, or D, Shazzer. Oh, geez. I think Lisa, Lisa's what I'm leaning towards. I'll stick with Lisa. Okay, Scott. Um, I think it's...
Starting point is 00:31:50 Give me the names again. Tony, Lisa, Laurie or Shazza? Lori, I believe. that is correct Scott Stills from Brian Good job A bit of Steely Steely going on here Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:06 Okay so Scott Yeah Pretty woman My wife loves that movie I may have caught a lot of it On the side You never know You never know
Starting point is 00:32:19 There's chick flicks and guy flicks And I like a real boomer movie I saw when I was 20 Such a boomer movie Oh Doesn't they get a You know, I still like stuff like, you know, Dudley and... We should like everything.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Everybody should like whatever the hell they want to like. Exactly. Who picks, who says, well, you know, that's really more a TV show targeted towards the previous generation, so I won't watch it. Yeah, that's dumb. You know what I think it is? I think, and I'm sorry if you're in this new generation, but I think they only watch the stuff that's available to them today. Well, unless you're, they don't go back and watch older stuff and they don't look at, like, I don't know. I'm not so sure that's true.
Starting point is 00:33:05 That may be true of millennials, but I think like Gen Z, my kids, their generation, they love, like, their favorite show on any streaming services, like, I love Lucy and freaking the Dick Van Dyke show. They love that stuff. And they'll watch it over and over now. Carter watches match, like twice a year. It's responsible for us parents to, like, open your children's minds to, like, open your children's minds to, all these things. Right. It's never been a better time.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It's a woman that has no kids. And there's never been in a better time because it's everywhere. This stuff's just available. So watch it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. So, Scott, you stole that.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So, Scott, your pretty woman. Number four, what type of car is Edward driving when he picks up Vivian? Is it A, a Lamborghini, B, a Ferrari, C, a Lotus, or D, a Porsche? Oh, my gosh. There is no substitute. What was the second to last one? Okay, we've got a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, a Lotus, and a Porsche. Um, I don't know. I'll just say the one I would drive. Ferrari, I'll say. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Okay, Brian. Damn it. Let's say Porsche. Game, both got it wrong. Yeah. It was actually a Lotus Esprit. Lotus, gosh, dang it. Ah, doorbell's about to ring.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Schwan's guy's about to ring the doorbell. I'm going to respond on my ring app. Schwanz guy. What's that? Who's that? Shwans. It sounds like it's a German. Schwanz is at the front door again.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So we don't need anything this time around. Do you want the new car? You can leave that on the porch. I can't, I can't come upstairs right now. Well, he's a real, he's a quick responder that guy on the front. He was, yeah, exactly. All right, I don't even know what the Schwann man does. Can I, can I call Templin Webster and find it where my cupboard is?
Starting point is 00:35:21 You're what? I can do that online or on camera. I'll phone Temple and Webster and find it where my cupboard is. Listen, I had to do this because he was on my doorstep right now. Oh, really? Yeah, he was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, let the hounds out.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Press that button. Let the hounds out. Yeah, exactly. We get their frozen bacon. It's really good, but we don't need any right now. Yeah. All right. So, Brian.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yes. Ten minutes. All right. Dancers with wolves. Okay. Okay. All right. J.J. Dunbar winds up in a small western
Starting point is 00:35:56 Fort called Fort Sedgwick or by himself. Why is he alone? Is it A, everyone else died of smallpox? B, he kills the other soldiers. C Pawnee have killed everyone or D, reinforcements never arrived. Oh,
Starting point is 00:36:14 I think it's C. I think it's that the Pawnee had killed everyone else. Scott? I think that it's... He loves this movie. I do like that movie a lot, but I'm a little rusty on the idea, but I'm pretty sure it's because the reinforcement's never arrived.
Starting point is 00:36:30 That is correct. Yeah, that's right. Because he was just like hanging around forever and yeah. That's a good movie. I've not seen it since 1990. Good fellow should have won the Oscar, but anyway, there you go. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So, Scott, all right, back to the future three. Yeah. All right, number six. What does Marty McFly call himself when he travels back to 1885? Is it age on way? B, Roy Rogers, C, Clint Eastwood, or D, Gary Cooper. Oh, my gosh. I don't remember, but he seems like he might say Clint Eastwood just because that's the cool thing to say.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Exactly what you would say, yes. That is correct. Okay. I didn't really remember. Clint Eastwood. Now I can hear it. Now it's making sense. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Total guess on that. Is that you doing MicroJ Fox? What's that? Was that you doing Michael J. Fox? Yeah, that's me doing Michael J. Fox. You're going to have to add a bit of a wobble to it now, I think. Oh, man. That's not very bad.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Prepare those messages on Discord that she could print out and put some skull and crossbones marks on. Yeah, the chat room have already turned on me. They've turned. They've turned off. Gone rogue and they've turned. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:53 All right. It's just stating the facts. Okay. All right, so, Brian? Yes. Number seven, Die Hard 2. Who directed Die Hard 2? Was it A, John McTannon, B, Len Weissman, C, John Moore, or D, Rennie Harlan?
Starting point is 00:38:12 All right, I'm ruling two of them out right away. I think it was B. Len Wiseman, is that what you said, for B? I must say B. Scott? That would be incorrect. The answer is Rennie Harlan. It was Rennie Harlan?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Holy cat. It did not remember that thing. All right. So John McTannon directed the first one. He returned for the third one. And then I think it was Len Wiseman that directed the fourth one. And then John Moore directed the very last one when Bruce was just finding it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They should have just had McTarinen do all of them, honestly. Of course. Absolutely. Naturally. Of course. He's so good. Okay. So Scott, all right, you just stole that one.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So Goodfellas. Eight, as far back as he can remember, Henry Hill wanted to be a gangster. What was his first mob job? Was it A, a bus boy, B, parking cars, C, stealing cars, or D, selling illicit cigarettes? Uh, I remember the cars. I think parking cars? No? no oh yes yes sorry i was watching the chat room oh really we couldn't tell yes you're absolutely right
Starting point is 00:39:33 Scott parking cars we couldn't tell can we right he says something like you know i was just this kid and i was driving these chavalays or whatever any can't see over the dashboard or something right okay so brian uh number nine tremors yes oh i'm getting trounced where do val and earl find the first dead body when leaving perfection Nevada. Is it A atop an electrical tower? B buried in a car. C. As a severed head in a flock of sheep
Starting point is 00:40:03 or D. wedged in a rock near roadworks. Holy cow. Okay. Got to go back to this film. Film Sack 2012 by the way. Yeah. It was a nerdtacular. It was an artacular. It was an artacular because I did the puppet arms. I love tremors
Starting point is 00:40:23 I think it was at the top of an electrical tower That got flung up there Yeah That is correct He actually he climbed up the top And they were leaving And they found it he had dehydrated Because he was fighting from the tremors
Starting point is 00:40:39 Oh right Because he didn't want to go back Yeah yeah yeah Correct But wasn't there a thing later where he was it There was a head in a Yeah yeah later on there was a car with a dead body Oh okay so about the first one
Starting point is 00:40:49 couple that was sitting in their car and the tremors came up and the car got buried and the lights and the radio was still on. Got it. If I can remember correctly. I think that's right. Okay. Chat room will correct me, I'm sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Okay. All right. So Scott, arachnophobia. How do you feel about spiders? You know what? If it wasn't for film, I would have never seen that film, but I have seen it. Yeah, my partner's the same. Can't stand them.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But then again, we've got deadly ones here. So, okay. So what country does the new? newly discovered spider that is accidentally transported to a small California town come from. Is it A, Argentina, B, Ecuador, C, Bolivia, or D, Venezuela? It was in South America. Yeah. Total guess here.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm just going to say, I don't know. Guatemala is my guess. I didn't even have Guatemala on the list. You even say. You can say Guatemala? You can say Guatemala. No. No, I had Argentina, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Oh, well, then any guess is as good as that. Let's say, um... Let's go for it. I'm going to go off the board and choose... Bolivia. It's been... It is Bolivia? No.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Oh. Brian? Bolivia would have been my guess. So, uh, Venezuela. Correct. Damn it. Gosh, dang it. Good. I needed a steal.
Starting point is 00:42:19 New York City Not on the list I swear you said Guatemala The funny thing is If you said South America I'd probably have to say that you are right But South America is not a country So actually no you'd be wrong
Starting point is 00:42:35 So okay It's like Africa everyone thinks Africa's a country No Okay If you said what continent Yeah Yeah Okay so Brian
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yes Okay so Edward Cisarhands So Big Poges discovered Edward in a Gothic mansion, what was her occupation that led to her visit in the mansion? Was she A, a cleaning lady, B, a real estate agent, C, a post lady, or D, a door-to-door sales lady. She was a door-to-door makeup sales lady. Damn it! That's too easy.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Ding-dong. Let's put a little foundation on you. Wonderful, Diane Weiss. Yeah, she's great. She's great. All right, Scott. Okay, kindergarten cop. All right, Detective John Kimball has to take the role of kindergarten teacher at Astoria Elementary School
Starting point is 00:43:28 because, A, his partner was shot, B, he's fallen in love with one of the kids' mothers. C, he needs to meet the kids face to face, or D, his partner gets a stomach flu. Well, it's part of an investigation, right? So, get to know the kids face to face. probably i don't know Brian damn it yeah it's
Starting point is 00:43:53 I mean that is the why the two of them went to a story because they had to talk to the kids and figure out which one's dad was the bad guy but who is your father and what does he do yeah but he ends up being he ends up having to do because she was going to be the teacher she gets a stomach flu but turns out she's pregnant
Starting point is 00:44:13 and that's why he he not a tumor he becomes the the kindergarten cap. Yeah. No, the tumor. Okay, you are absolutely right. You do not have a tumor, Brian. You are absolutely spot on.
Starting point is 00:44:26 So, well done. You're in the clear. Okay, Brian, hunt for the red October. Close enough. There's an extra thund. Hunt for Red October. Oh, picky, picky, picky. Goodness me.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Red Hunt for the October. Hey, that's another John McTiernan film. The submarine movie, all right? I hope that's not the question about Tom McToran. Okay, so what actor plays Captain Vasily Barodin in this film? Is it A, Sean Connery, B, Scott Glenn, C, Sam Neal, or D, Tim Curry? No. It's Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:45:05 It's too easy. That's an easy one. No, Scott. What? That's not it? That's not it. Oh. Different character than I was in.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Sorry, ripped through the other. Scott, it's all in your court, buddy. Sean Connery, Scott Glenn, Sam Neal or Tim Curry. It's a silly? A silly Baroden. I don't know. Scott Glenn, I like him. You both got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Sam Neal. Oh, Sam Neal. Okay. Sam Neal? Did he play Russian? Was he a Russian voice? Yeah. Yeah, apparently.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Well, Sean Connery didn't do a Russian accent, so why should anyone else? That's a good point. Who cares? Okay, so that's a nun. That's a nuts. So someone's keeping score in the chat room, just know that there's been a couple of, you know, no one got it. Okay, so that was a Brian one? All right, Scott, Dick Tracy.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I got cocky. Yeah, you did. You both did. Well, you are, guys. Okay, so Dick Tracy. Number 14. What is Madonna's character's name in the? the film, Dick Tracy, is it A,
Starting point is 00:46:19 Tess Trueheart, B, breathless Mahoney, C, Liz Worthington Grove, or D, Texie Garcia. I think it's Breathless Mahoney. It is. Is it? That is correct.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Okay, because she was all, I know, they just sounded right. Tess Trueheart was the, was not Heddy, Hedley, head, not Lena, Hedley, no, not Lena Hedley. The actress who looks like Rod Stewart. Glenn,
Starting point is 00:46:45 Glenn Headley. And you guys haven't got to get me about Michael J. Fox. Geez. Call me some slack, boy. Wow. Glenn Hetty. I can't remember her last name, but she passed away for years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Not good to speak all of the day. She was in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. She was, yes. Oh, yeah. I liked her. She was great. Yeah, yeah. Good actress.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yeah. Okay. So finally, so that was... That was a Scott. That was Scott. Brian. Okay. Days of Thunder.
Starting point is 00:47:15 All right, number 15, what is the character name of Cole Trickle, played by Sam, Tom Cruise, sorry, rival or initial rival in Days of Thunder? Is it A, Rowdy Burns, B, Tim Dylund, C, Buck Berethiton, or Russ Wheeler, number D? Letter D. I remember Rowdy being a character, but I can't remember if that was his buddy or if that was his rival. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Rowdy, first one. You are correct. Yeah, played by Michael Rooker. Nicely done.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Oh, Rooker, I forgot. Then they become allies and work together against a common blow or something. And I think Kerry Eels went on to be the baddie. And it's funny. Carrie Eels was in the Princess Bride as, you know, a really truly good heroic character. And then he just went, stuff that, I'm just going to play baddies all the time. Apart from maybe Robin Hood men in. It's got to be more fun.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Oh, no, that was Matt. Oh, I can't remember. He's done all kinds of stuff, but he got his leg. cut off. He was one of the first people to get their leg cut off in the first saw movie. In the saw movie, yeah, right. Yeah, that was a weird turn. Yeah. The only saw movie I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, I've seen that. Okay, so we've got, we've got a, I don't know if it's a tie. I've got a tie-breaker because I've always got one. Number 16. This is a jump in as soon as you, yes. Join in chat, you know, whoever gets in first wins the prize. Okay. I'll give you my bra or something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Number 16. what was the number one box office film of 1990? Was it A, Dancers with Wolves, B, Home Alone, C, Pretty Woman, or D, Ghost? Oh, ghost, had to be ghost. Brian gets in first, Brian. Did you get it right? Yep. Oh, I couldn't remember.
Starting point is 00:49:00 For some reason, 505,702, 588. Those were the top four, right, that you gave us? Those were the top four. and I knew you were going to ask me that, just in case you're curious. So the top 10 highest-grossing films for 1990 box office were Ghost, Home Alone, Pretty Woman, Dances with Wolves, Total Recall, Back to the Future Part 3, Die Hard 2, Presumed Innocent. That was a bit surprising. I love that movie. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Kindergarten Cop.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Oh, wow. That's a hell of a list. So who won, chat? That was a big year for iconic films. If you're counting the tiebreaker, I win six to eight, but if you don't count the tiebreaker, which you shouldn't because we weren't tied, then I won seven to seven to six. I'm done, Brian. Really just by one?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Oh, wow. Yeah, which is funny because you had a lot of steals and we have. I thought I lost hard. Yeah, yeah. No, it was close. No, it was close. It was you had one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Okay. Well, there you go. So Brian, that puts Brian ahead overall. Next month, we put that to the test and see if I can. can't crawl back for my hideous defeat from the land of Guatemala. Well, it'll be some year in the 90s, but I'm not telling you what so that no one can research it. I really like this focus on a specific year. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yeah, it's fun. I like it too, and we might go back to the 80s as well, but for the moment, we'll make our way through the 90s, but it's not necessarily going to be 1991. You should do 84, because 84 is like famously full of things that we would know. all those 84 and I think 86 or 87 or something was like like yeah so yeah that's you know we've got lots of quizzes to come
Starting point is 00:50:43 so that's what I'll concentrate on is a year of movies yeah you know all the boomer movies shows as well at one point it's all boomer movies and TV shows don't forget that's what we're looking at that's right haven't gotten over that have you Scott
Starting point is 00:50:54 you just just it's just it's a fun call down it's just ah don't call me a boomer did you tell people at home we're generation X aren't we So we're all 50, 50-something. We're Generation X. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:08 We know, but we don't care what anyone else thinks. We don't care. No, I couldn't give a ratch. We don't care. You should tell us where we can find your other show so that we know where to find it before we see you again. Very quickly, the Retro Cinema Podcasts type it into Google. We've just released tonight. It's top 10 time, our top 10 80s movies with sex workers in them.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Whoa. So that was fun. And it's Angry Man Haddy's Week Off, so I've got my partner, Colonel Kickhead. co-hosting that with me and last week we did runaway train so thanks guys for having me on 80s with sex workers so like uh night shift is got to be yeah night shift is got to be on my list i had some quirky ones but there's more than you think if you think about all the sex workers so that includes hookers strippers prostitutes cool girls jigilos yeah there was heaps escorts yeah there's a lot more than you think escorts yep so thanks boys
Starting point is 00:51:58 tutors talk taxi driver Tudors. Yeah, tutors, piano teachers. You know, piano teachers, you got to watch it up for them. Piano teachers, for sure, yeah. Famous for their sex work. All right, we're going to take a break when we come back. My sister Wendy will be here. We're going to answer the question for Therapy Thursday this week that she called in her text back to me, very good one, is what she said. Oh, good. Okay. So it's, we're looking forward to that. We'll get to that in a minute, though.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Before all that, though, a song break from Brian. Yeah, we're going to go to Austin for this one. called Culture Wars. They have a brand new EP coming out called Tech. Do we have a date on that one? I don't think we do. But these guys were actually inspired by seeing New Order back in the day live in Houston. And after that, they recorded a bunch of demos. One of them became their self-titled 2017 debut EP. And they've just been going ever since. This is coming again, coming from their upcoming EP called Tech. It's a song called Hunger. Here is Culture Wars. Oh, very nice. And if I just had the right place to click this, it'd be great. Okay, there it is.
Starting point is 00:53:14 All right. We'll see you guys on the other side of this awesome song, Brian just described. Take me out all the way out Hold me down, tie me up Drive me out all the way out Lay me down, don't make a sound To hit the ground down to the ground Teach me how make it count Going down all the way down
Starting point is 00:53:55 Hearts are calm go hunger in the night hunger in the heat holding down right home and down sweet you can make it right you can make it see
Starting point is 00:54:16 you can make it sweet hunger in the night hunger in the heat home and down right home and down sweet you can make it right you can make a sleep you can make it right
Starting point is 00:54:30 you can make a sweet Scratch me up, leave them off, hold me down all the way down. Rough me up, cross the line, take me out all the way out. Falling down, don't make a sound to hit the ground down to the ground. Teach me how, make it count, going down all the way down. Hearts are calm Hearts will go Home in the night,
Starting point is 00:55:16 Homer in the heat Hold me down right, home and down sweet You can make it right You can make a seat You can make it right You can make it sweet Homer in the night
Starting point is 00:55:29 Homer in the heat Hold me down right Hold me down sweet, and you can make it right, you can make a seat, and you can make it right, you can make it sweet. Homo in the night, hunger in the heat, hold me down right, hold me down sweet, and you can make it right, you can make a scene, and you can make it right, you can make it sweet, hunger in the night, hunger in the heat, hold me down right, home and down sweet, you can make it right, home to down sweet, you can make it right, you can make it sweet. Hey, guys, let's talk about my new favorite thing. I've been trying this RISE app. And I don't know, I felt like I needed a little bit of science in my sleep habits. And RISE has brought it to me.
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Starting point is 01:00:15 What? Get busy a time. I didn't mean to do that. I'm going to pop some tags. got $20 in my pocket. I, I'm hunting. Looking for a come-up. This is the morning stream.
Starting point is 01:00:36 A little fidgety there with my W-finger. Sorry, everybody. There you go. That song again, Brian? That song again is Hunger by the band Culture Wars from Austin. Very nice. Very, very nice. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I'm trying to find him going back and finding people kept saying Glenn Close. No, who's the, nobody came up with the actress that was, uh, Tess True Heart in, um, Close wasn't in, I don't think she was in that. No, it definitely wasn't Glenn Close. It was Glenn, I want to say Glenn Headley. Oh, was that a person? Headley. Headley. Headley. Hadley. Everybody kept saying, uh, Glenn Close and, uh. All right. Maybe Wendy knows. Hey, Wendy, do you remember the name? Do you remember that movie, the, the, what's the movie? You forgot already. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Well, it's a natural, or dirty rotten scoundrels, but also Dick Tracy. Dick Tracy. Do you remember Dick Tracy? You remember that? I'm going to be really helpful here. I can't remember literally famous people now. That's true. I knew this about you.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Why did I ask you? Glenn Headley is who we're talking about. That's who I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I would have said. Yeah. She passed away in 2017. Oh, that's too bad. She was nice.
Starting point is 01:01:51 She was married to. John Malcovich? Yeah. She found him. No, she, what's the seeking? Or no. She, binged him. She binged him.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Hey, it's my sister, Wendy, everybody. A professional in the field of therapy and self-wellness. No, not like that. Not like the, you know, she's not selling snake oil. It's on like, you know, cognitive therapy stuff. And she comes here on the Thursdays and does therapy Thursdays, and we answer your questions. And we got a good one this week. So we're going to read it.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Before we get to that, Wendy, how are things? How are you doing your, your, you're, You're vaccinated fully. Do you feel like a new woman just ready to grab the world by the neck and throw it in the trash or what? How do you feel? Yeah. Adam has to keep reminding me like, you know, you don't have to wear a mask, right? And I'm like, I feel weird.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah. Weird. So I always have it under my chin. Yeah. I just bring. And I pull it up. And I wear it most of the time, except if like I can't breathe real well. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot how nice it is to breathe.
Starting point is 01:02:51 It is pretty nice to breathe. It's funny because we're totally in the just-in-case mask time. I mean, I basically wear it when I, even in places where I don't have to, like, I'll go into Target. I'm like, I'm still going to wear it. Just I don't know why. But, you know, walking around, it's like, yeah, now you got to keep a mask with me at all times, just in case I go to a place where it's required or. Right, right. It's just part of your kit now.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You've got to have it like your wallet. It's just in your pants. Like chapstick. Yeah. Yeah, my mask. And also, I have a recommendation. Don't eat a really big fat onion burger before you got to wear a mask for the next two hours. Ew.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Or garlic toast. Yeah, it's no good. No, that thing traps it. That's been the best thing about this is that people finally know how their freaking breath smells. You're right. You can't avoid it. That's why their noses are out. That's what I was going to say, that's why you see the people with their noses out.
Starting point is 01:03:45 It's not that they're trying to be kicked. It's that they realize how bad their breath is. This is all true. Whoa. Yeah. Just remember everyone. That's still how it smells. So just be kind to stay back. Indeed. Let's get to this question. So this is a good one. I don't have a name because it's anonymous and we'll keep it that way. But here's how the question goes. I really enjoy the advice and guidance that we get from Wendy on Thursday, says this person. I have one that I want to run by the group. I don't think I'm the only one who may have to deal with this. Usually they aren't. It's oftentimes you guys write in and it's stuff everybody can relate to or at least some of the skin. Anyway, I can't seem to get over some mistakes. I've made in the past. I don't mean big mistakes. I mean the little ones. Little like only one or two people know about them in some cases. We're talking about many years
Starting point is 01:04:31 back in some of these cases as well. It doesn't have to be something to trigger to or trigger it. They usually come when I am in a quiet spot like in the shower or in the car that they come rushing back to my mind. A couple of examples that come up often are a first one I jokingly said, quote, I'm retarded, unquote, in front of friends of ours who had a brother with Down syndrome. I apologized, and they took it in stride, but I still think about that and regret saying it. Oh, man, if this is the standard, I am screwed, because I have so many regrets about things I've said in the past.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Anyway, he says, I apologize, took it in stride, blah, blah, blah. Let's see. Another is I got riled up at a baseball game and went off on the empire. I embarrassed my kid and my wife. It was a bad day for me, and I still get angry at myself for blowing my top. So that's bad enough that I remember these events, but I really get emotional, emotionally, I don't think it just means emotional, and even have a physical reaction when they cross my mind. I'll be sitting in traffic and these mistakes will come back over my brain, and I will verbally and or physically react to them with a gosh or a bump to the steering wheel or a kind of kick myself for being so dumb and embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I can't think of more examples, or I can think of more examples, but trust me, I'm not sure what I can do. I can't go back to change them. I apologize to the people at the time, but why are they still in my head? Other than these thoughts and reactions, I'm pretty normal. I hate it when my foods touch each other and eat everything,
Starting point is 01:05:57 one item at a time, but that's a whole other can of worms for when you get to dig and do it. Thanks, guys, Anonymous. Yeah, we need to, let's, let's, uh... Yeah, let's start there. Let's start there. I mean, maybe it's tied.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't know. I don't want to assume anything. What is wrong with that? No, that, I mean, that's nothing. That's the least of your concerns. Yeah. I kind of don't like that either, so I'm with you, dude. Yeah, you are not alone.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I don't like mixing. Don't go to England. It's all about mashing the things together on a back of a fork and then eating it. So I think you'd hate it. With like sheep's blood and pig intestines and stuff, yeah. And the peas bounce on the back of your fork. Yeah, nobody wants that. So do you, I'm not sure the best place to start with this,
Starting point is 01:06:41 but, you know, kicking yourself in the butt for past mistakes is, not super uncommon, but maybe a little bit for him in that he's, you know, he's really having these visceral reactions to sort of small events, you know, in the longer, bigger scheme of things. Where do you want to go with this? Well, number one, he did a great job explaining it. I think, you know, if he had just said, well, sometimes I pass mistakes pop in my head and I get frustrated, like we'd all go, oh, yeah, that happens to me. But he gave very, very, distinct ways that this shows up right like you're sitting in traffic and it's helped me figure out how I'm going to help him but I'm going to need you guys as the guinea pigs what's the
Starting point is 01:07:27 yeah because we do this all the time so yeah we're we're perfect any pigs for this oh good okay good because I'll need to ask questions and have you sort of you know be vicarious for him but yeah lots of great examples so it's really helped me understand sort of what it what is happening So let's start with this. Everybody has some similarities in this regard. It's just think of it. The volume is either either turned up or turned down on it, right? So we have these kind of amazing brains.
Starting point is 01:08:00 They store information. There's this amazing recall that is really helpful when you're taking a test, right? Or really helpful when you're, you know, coming up with the name of an actor from the 80s. that recall is you know it'll just pop in or whatever and then and that's normal that's human that's what our brains do that's one of their cool powers um and some of us and you know with age that tends to get slower right so this is like the quote unquote normal range of this sort of behavior right so now we apply this this skill that our brain has to our emotional social interactions um and it has a a little twist to this. Now, let's keep it within the range of it's fine. And that might be, oh, I forgot that person's birthday. It pops in your head. And so then you go and make it right. And or I need to go pick up my kid from school. That's happened a few times. Anyway, like important little tidbits of information will jump out of nowhere and remind you of something. And maybe it's
Starting point is 01:09:05 that you need to apologize. You hadn't realized you'd hurt someone's feelings. So it's going to get, there's some social benefit. There's some connectivity. with your loved ones and your community that you benefit from this behavior. Okay, so that's all within the realm of healthy and normal and everyone knows what I'm talking about for the most part, unless you don't have this and then maybe there's other things going on.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Right. Another call. Anyway, okay, now take it outside the realm. So we could say, I mean, did he say years later? Let's see. I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think it's like years and years later.
Starting point is 01:09:40 He's still, it'll just come up while he's, the car for example and yeah so like it doesn't have to be triggered like he doesn't have to smell fresh cut lemons and then suddenly he's like oh remember that time i insulted jim when i have the lemon smell or whatever right right so there it doesn't need triggers and that's what it sounds like to him is a little bit disturbing like i'm just driving here why do i have to think about that time i was screaming at an umpire and i feel you know so embarrassed or stupid about it um so it can be even more distressing. And notice he gave us a couple clues here. Physically and emotionally
Starting point is 01:10:14 distressing when this occurs. So think about okay, I'm going to give you a weird example. So the Queen's Gambit. Did you guys watch that? Brian did. I still haven't. It's on my list. I want to. It's fantastic. And fun. Stop doing what you're doing right now and watch it, Scott. That's it, everybody. Good night.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Click. It's fun. But there is something about that show. And Brian, you tell me if maybe I'm just the messed up one here. But the And I don't know if they did it on purpose. And I don't tend to research things afterwards. So I have no answers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Which is this. Every other minute in that movie, I was bracing myself for something bad to happen, for her to be raped for a car accident, for a gunshot, for something. Yeah. And I don't know if it's the style, the timing, or that I have been so jacked up by viewing things. I think that's a part of everybody's. experience on TV or something, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:11:14 What do you think, Brian? I had the same thing. And for me, it happens with, with movies that take place in other decades and feel real in other decades. Uncut Jems was current, but I'm thinking of like ones where I felt like Goodfellas we talked about earlier that took place on like the 60s and 70s. Really, if it's the 70s, I get this like weird,
Starting point is 01:11:39 uh-huh, something bad. It's about to happen. Yeah. Yeah. And so that whole show, I just kept being astonished that what I kept thinking would happen didn't happen. And then I really had to stop and go, okay, clearly, this is not a sign of my well-being that I'm sure she'll be raped every minute. Like, it really is a weird. I've never had that with watching anything before.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And, you know, we've just been kind of trained for things like that to happen in movies where you care about the character. But you see, they kind of live. a little bit of a vicarious or reckless life. I mean, you know, she was sneaking out to play chess and, uh, uh, some, and the janitor, like there's no way that guy has good intentions, but of course he did. Of course he does. And he's a great chess player. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:26 So confusing. Anyway, but it tells it, this is an example of like, uh, what I'm talking about here. Is that we are prepped for that sort of something to happen, right? Or it's already just kind of built in. that a bad thing kind of has taken hold and even this the reason I give this example is that it's not part of this story but my brain just kept wanting me to be prepared for it right like what's the point of that so apply this to this guy's experience his brain wants him to be prepared for something that's why it does that that's why it's a survival response of like
Starting point is 01:13:05 popping in ideas thoughts memories whatever it might be to keep you safe to keep you ready to run if you need to or whatever those things might be right so we can all doing it again yes which is exactly the point right don't ever yell at the umpire ever ever again and so this part of the brain just wants him to remember that and we'll remind him when he's not thinking about anything particular at a stoplight right um okay now here's what's problematic about what's happening so it's the brain trying to help you um in its clumsy way it makes it actually worse well what it's being successful right i'm i'm pretty sure that this guy is not going to go to a little league game tomorrow and yell at anybody right um
Starting point is 01:13:51 and he's going to be careful what he says around people maybe in a different way so he's going to get the social benefits by from behaving um and this brain part this part of him is succeeding and keeping him from doing that. So this is where you go, okay, all right, I see the value here. This makes some sense. But it's actually like a little PTSD-ish where it's reminding him he's having a physical reaction, like it's that strong. It really doesn't want him to ever do this kind of thing again.
Starting point is 01:14:26 So this is often where people will come in for help because they don't, they get stuck. And imagine he had 20 more mistakes that, onto them like this and pretty soon you just like can't even sleep at night. So you can see how this kind of runs away from you a little bit. Okay. So we're going to do something very proactive about it, but I need one of you two to provide your own. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:56 And make it a minor one. So none of us have to think badly about you later. All right. Well, this is this is a minor one that it's the first one that came to mind, and it's really not as bad as what our writer has offered up, but it's still one that I feel bad about, even though the person that this
Starting point is 01:15:17 happened with laughs it off every time I bring it up. This was three years ago, TMS Vegas. It was our first TMS Vegas, and a woman came up to me at the Millennium Fandom. We're like sitting there having, you know, meeting with everybody. It's like the first night. It's like a get-together. We're giving out the
Starting point is 01:15:39 t-shirts and coins and shot glasses that people got for their tickets and stuff like that. A woman comes up to me and says, hi. And I said, well, hi there. Are you having a good time? And she's like, yeah, I am. I said, cool. What's your name? Where are you from? And she's like, it's Bobby and Folk. We've met a bunch of times. So I just didn't recognize them. That happened to me all the time at Nerdtacular. I do that all Yeah. And it's like, oh, geez, yeah, I'm sorry. And I still, you know, I don't feel as bad as I did for like a year after that. And she, she joked about, like, every time we saw each other that weekend, she's like, oh, hi, I'm Bobby Ann Folk. Nice to meet you kind of thing. Yeah. And she, you know, she teased it off to kind of let me know. It's like, yeah, it's okay. But yeah, I did feel like crap for like a year.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Mine's a little closer to the dude's problem with him using the R word, except in my case, for years, and I say years, probably, well, yeah, the early part of podcasting. So 2004-05 in that range, for a few years there, I used to justify doing this really over-the-top stereotyped Asian accent because my brother's name is, or, you know, Matt was Korean and had this accent. accent. So I would, I did this character called Dingpong and it was over the top ridiculous. And, um, some people loved it and a whole lot of other people were super offended by it. And I would always justify it like, well, look, he's my brother. It's fine. If I do it, because, you know, that whole, that whole stereotype. And, um, yeah, I feel bad about it now. Sometimes it'll come up now. I don't do it anymore and I, you know, stop doing it and, you know, stop making it a big deal. But, uh, I always felt a, I, I
Starting point is 01:17:31 always felt bad about doing it not you know never because uh mostly because i'm just i got into a place where i wanted to stop i wanted to stop giving myself opportunities for other people to get hurt even if it felt like nothing to me and that can be anything from the r word as mentioned earlier it could be this terrible Asian impression it could be any number of things you don't really know what you're doing to somebody else until you hear from them or see it through their eyes or walk a mile in their shoes or whatever so you just don't know and I'm trying I tried that was around the time where I was like I'm going to try not to do that anymore I don't want to be that guy um and then what tends to happen is if you really back yourself into a corner when people
Starting point is 01:18:19 call you on it you have excuses like well he's my brother or well that used to be funny now nobody can say anything anymore we're so PC now like you can start you know digging your hole Yeah. And at the end of the day, to me, to me, at the end of the day, it's like this. Like, you can justify saying the word retarded by saying, well, in the 80s, we were raised to say that all the time. Everybody said it. It was in movies and TV, and you said it all the time. It didn't mean what everyone thought it meant or it doesn't mean this or the word gay. It didn't mean we were making fun of, you know, people who are gay. We were just using gay as in, boy, that's lame or whatever. And then you start getting the whole, well, the word lame is actually a little bit tender for some because, you know, people that are hurt or maimed you're kind of now making fun to them but the point but the point is like
Starting point is 01:19:04 all right i understand that if you're in an environment where all that stuff is not necessarily discouraged then you might get an idea that it's sort of normal until you're told it isn't but i don't know how that's any different than me saying you're an effing douchebag and expecting them to be fine with me saying that to them you know that's also mean and out of out of out of normal Like you shouldn't, why would I want to hurt them that way or this other way that has all these excuses tied to it? So for me, I got a lot of guilt about that ding pong period. Not a lot, but enough for when it comes up. I, you know, I just kind of feel bad about it.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Gotcha. Okay, real quick, everyone, go look up the book, nine nasty words, English in the gutter, then now and forever. by John McWhorter I just heard a podcast with him and he did this great it's a great way to think about curse words of because okay
Starting point is 01:20:06 they started out with if you were cursing God like that's the original swear words came from that place like the example bloody in England is religious or you know taking the name of God in vain or whatever all those things come from first then and then the next
Starting point is 01:20:23 phase was body parts, and I'll just assume, and those ones are still pretty effective. It's still popular, yeah. Still going strong, but they are less and less offensive or a less and less as weighty as they once were in the sense of they're just a lot more common place, whatever, and the new realm of curse words are against groups of people. So Scott, you just explained, you know, what? with the R word as well, right? Like, that's the curse word now, is that you don't.
Starting point is 01:20:57 So it's always, and so people actually might just be rebelling and cursing, too. That's a piece of it. So it's a fascinating way to think about it. And then someone asked him to predict what he thinks the future version of cursing will be. And he was saying, well, I don't predict the future, but you think of anything that's going to become more and more sensitive, then it's more likely that those words will come up around that thing. So his prediction was maybe climate change That at some point when we're all Tighten over water
Starting point is 01:21:25 We won't be allowed to say water or something Right, it's gonna be See that's the word thing about You can't say hydrated What are you talking about? That's the thing about language Like language is so weird this way Because you know
Starting point is 01:21:38 I say dude all the time to everyone Including you, my wife My daughters My son Males and females in my life They're all dude to me And I do it all the time And Kim calls me
Starting point is 01:21:51 dude and I'll call her dude and it's just not even a thing we think about. At some point, somebody somewhere is going to finally go you have to stop doing that when there are women around and I'm going to have to learn how not to do it if it's really hurting somebody because I don't want to hurt me. Now if it's
Starting point is 01:22:07 I understand why people get frustrated. This is the thing. I have some understanding of that feeling of like well now I'm afraid to say anything because anything I say it could be taken in whatever way you decide this week it's going to be offensive. It's easy to dig yourself into that corner right and and feel justified in doing so um because if some of these suddenly everybody was going to tell me that dude is offensive uh i would have a really hard time
Starting point is 01:22:34 eliminating that one for my my vocabulary i use it constantly yeah i use i say guys oh hey guys you know all the time right and that that isn't intended to be gender specific but can't do with my daughter like a hey taylor are you guys coming over this weekend I mean, that's the most common thing I could ever say in the world, and it includes her, a female daughter, as part of the guy's moniker. Like, I don't know how to get around some of that, because that stuff's really hard. So I guess what I'm saying is, is it possible to be both frustrated with, how do I put this? Maybe it's the speed of the change. Maybe that's it.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And right now it's like the speed of light. You can get behind not saying the R-LOR. word, but you grew up saying the R word, right? Like, you moved past. Right. Probably that. I probably called you that word, by the way. Growing up, I would have said, Wendy, so I would have probably done that because we did. I mean, I have found myself one time I said, that is so ridiculous. Because it is a, it's a word you use in your childhood. So you can be grumpy about it all day long. I think it's maybe speed. And then I also think it's like, again, if nothing. thing ever any of those forbidden words don't mess with you you've never felt any of it you know
Starting point is 01:23:57 that can be a little tricky to be like why are you so sensitive when we cannot call a white dude a douchebag which is you know clearly also mocking women um it is like dudes are like cool and that's it's a punching up not a punching down right right and so i think there's that okay we are off track go back go back get away from the dude ranch come back home i'm one i'm one that pulled it put is here, but I will watch this magic. Okay. So you guys both identified things, one including language, one including I don't remember who you are when really, of course I remember who you are. Both are social prices or embarrassment or some kind of reaction where you are now out of your comfort zone or
Starting point is 01:24:46 feeling vulnerable or it's off, right? Like you can't take those words back and make it feel better. You can't go back in time and get rid of your ding pong impression. And it, you know, so you know it could have potentially heard someone and it may probably did or whatever. So here's the guy in our email saying, you know, I embarrassed myself in front of my wife, my child, the team. I'm yelling at another human being. That's probably not who I really am. Right. So that is a big example of I'm behaving off and I'm not in my right mind in that moment. And then when all the dust settles the other parts of me are like never again do not do that like that is not socially okay so brian maybe you go to social functions and try extra hard now to remember
Starting point is 01:25:35 people i do yeah yeah and scott you are working on your racist intentions all the time it's great so right so we have this like it's a motivating system that works usually really does help us start to behave a little better fit in the society we're in better feel Like we're, you know, we can live with our selves. Yeah, but you understand why the, one person's fitting into a society better is another person's sheep to the slaughter. Oh, you're so woke now. Yeah, you're a pupate of the leftists and all that.
Starting point is 01:26:10 And I would like that person. I mean, I get that there are people that can just like live in the woods by themselves. And minus them, everyone else has some other virtue signaling they're doing to fit into their group. So nobody gets to argue unless truly you're a recluse. And those people don't even you aren't going to talk to us. So everybody else though is figuring is figuring out how to fit into their their group. I mean, you could just watch what people, how they fall over themselves to get it right. I mean, a politician, I think we always like, uh, politicians. It's because they're doing that on like a fast, fast pace scale right in front of our eyes, watching them, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:51 of flip and flop and do whatever to make sure everybody's happy or do the thing they think is the popular thing. I mean, grossness is all out. But it's because it is what we're all doing in slow motion. And you may think, I don't do what the crowd does. Well, you do what your wife does or what your mother wants you. You know, you need people to survive. So to deny that otherwise, it doesn't try to convince me. I'd love to hear it. How you really don't care what anybody thinks. Because you wouldn't be human. Okay. So let's get back to what we're going to do. with this guy. I'm going to do it separately. You guys do it with your own thing because I realize your examples, it might detract from what I want to help him with. So remember when we were
Starting point is 01:27:30 talking about your foot, Scott, and having a relationship with your foot? Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do something similar. So it's gone really far. We're engaged now. I'm pretty excited about it. We're going to get married. Regular conversations. Yeah, it's fantastic. So something a little bit similar. Something a little bit similar, but not with your foot, but similar to like checking in with the part of you that keeps reminding you of this thing, right? Okay, so I'm going to use the words directed to him and you guys maybe apply your own and anyone at home can also just apply their own thing that keeps nagging them.
Starting point is 01:28:09 So I'm going to use words maybe a little more specific to him, but follow along. Does it make sense? Yeah. Yes. Okay. All right. So Jim is what I'm going to call you. All right, Jim.
Starting point is 01:28:19 What if his name is Jim? that'd be awesome anyway so gym uh all right so what i want everybody to do is just sense in your body where this part lives so for example the part that you're at the you're at your staring wheel at a stoplight nothing's happening and suddenly that baseball match or game pops in your head and you're physically shaken and you're you're visualizing the whole thing you're like right back in that on that. Okay. So when that happens, where is it in your body that you feel it? Is it that your chest gets tight? Is it that you're sweaty, your hands grip? Petty your stomach. Pity your stomach. Sort of, you know, sometimes people feel it like hot right in their face or some facial experience
Starting point is 01:29:07 or tightness in their traps, whatever. Everything's going to be different. Just feel it where it is. Okay. So here is the part. When it shows up, it shows up and it does this. this physical thing, and it gets your attention. So we want to see this thing as it's like a little bit separate from you. Okay. That it comes in and it has a job to do. So we're going to just check with it about what its job is. So get the feeling, see it just slightly separate from you,
Starting point is 01:29:42 and then just ask it nicely what it wants you to know. Why does it keep showing up like this? what's what's it's what's the information to worry about yeah yeah exactly so just take a second and ask that question and listen just like talking to my feet but you're talking to this other thing yeah yeah this other thing okay okay there's less appendage like part of me totally okay so scott let's just work with yours real quick so what what when you ask this part why it wants to keep reminding you about your ding pong history what is it what does it want you to know Um, well, I have to kind of play along here a little bit because honestly, it doesn't come up that much.
Starting point is 01:30:25 I'm not having the problem this guy's having. But when it does come up, yeah, I feel bad about it. So I guess it still works. It's, um, it tells me that, uh, that I knew better and I still did it back then. Like when I was justifying it, um, I, I kind of knew deep down that it was, not great not a good look and I did it anyway and that that that still bums me out because that because it's not like it's like I had some epiphany where I went you know what every never knew no I knew I knew yeah like I told okay so here's an important follow-up question so and I'll get
Starting point is 01:31:08 back to the guy in the car there's a pretty good impression by the way that's the other frustrating thing is I was good at it and the more good at it I was the more sort of bad actors would encourage me do it and because that it was a good feedback loop and so I kept doing it I wish I was a terrible I wish ding pong was a bad impression because I would have died on the vine yeah we're died on the vine okay so so going back this part wants you to know that you knew better back then too you just kept doing it yeah okay so now I want you to ask the part what it is so afraid would happen if it didn't remind you of this periodically. What's it afraid would happen?
Starting point is 01:31:50 I don't know. Did I do it again, I guess? Or forget that it's, you know, forget that I, that's an interesting point. I assume it's like, I don't know, you have a scar from when you touch the stove that's going to remind you to never touch the damn stove again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:09 It's a little like that. Yeah. That's the impression I get. Okay. Good. Good. Okay. So similarly with the guy, the emailer, you know, to check him with this part. Like, what is it you want me to know? Why are you showing up? And like really listening. You have to be curious here or this does not work. If you're like, this part's stupid, I wish you would go away. It won't talk to you. And everyone's like, what in the world? But anyway, just trust me on this. It will reveal its reasons. And their reasons are usually protective, right? So then that follow-up question of what are you afraid would have? happen. If you didn't jump in while I'm driving to remind me of that embarrassing day, you know, what are you afraid would happen? And then listen to it. And it may be something similar to what you've said, Scott, which is it may happen again. Look at the damage that did. And I
Starting point is 01:33:01 just want to make sure you know. Okay. So here's the third step. And this doesn't really work in a podcast. So everyone just, like, if you're like, what, go get a therapist and try this yourself um because obviously i'm uh just giving you a a overview that doesn't really work because i can't talk to him directly but so scott i want you to keep going a little bit so what i want you to do with so think about this part now so this part that comes in uh to remind you that that was embarrassing and that you sort of knew what you're doing and kind of don't do it again how do you feel towards that part now that we know this stuff oh interesting I don't know how to answer that except to say that I
Starting point is 01:33:51 I feel I guess I'm glad that it's grateful maybe yeah weirdly yeah like weirdly it's like yeah I see its value here it's like you know everyone always says well oh my gosh when you're when your great aunt got dementia she sure knows how to swear like crazy part of me think that's because all these things that she was thankful that she had as restraints in her life let go because they're no longer working and now it's just letting and now the hose is going it's a little like that it feels like a little bit and also like think about like you have some internal systems that are trying to help you our problem is that we see them as enemies like quit reminding me right it's like a teenager being woken up for a thing they want to go to they're just like what you bugging me you know Because we're going to, oh, thanks.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Exactly. So it's that, like, it's actually the animosity within the system that's the problem, not necessarily that the system is trying so hard to help you not make a fool of yourself. Yeah, I mean, for me, for me, it's like, I don't know, it's like any of the big issues today that everybody gets so, so freaking divided on, like, I just, I just don't think you can be black and white about stuff. You just can't be, you can't think you've got it all figured out on trans issues if you're not trans or don't have any experience
Starting point is 01:35:12 to anybody who is or have that perspective in your life. You can't be decisive on an issue like abortion or anything else without having some basis of understanding and knowledge and that's what these things are, right? They're like these, they're like landmarks.
Starting point is 01:35:29 It's like, oh, that was the moment I realized I was hurting people's feelings with that and I don't want to be someone who actively tries to hurt somebody else's feelings, especially based on race or something. Like that sucks. It's the worst thing I feel like I could have done, but I didn't see it that way at the time, or at least I convinced myself that it wasn't that way at the time. But these landmarks now act as like a post.
Starting point is 01:35:51 It's like, oh, yeah, right. There it is. There's that thing. I learned from that. I better check my, check it before I wreck it kind of thing. Yeah. And you can see that it's an ally. And here's the thing about this that's cool is once you build a relationship with this part, and that sounds weird.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Like, it's you and the part develop a relationship. like hey thanks for coming i totally appreciate the reminder and the warning uh i got you um and and sometimes these parts don't trust that you're going to do the right thing and in your case it sounds like your part doesn't need to remind you constantly no um it's calmed down a little bit and and it just has it goes from sort of this normal role of like be careful you have that habit or whatever versus like coming in stopping you dead in your tracks and causing all of the sense of the sense of emotional turmoil that's happening to our emailer. Like, it's so big that this part just, like,
Starting point is 01:36:46 I've got to remind you of that terrible thing. And it gets you not to do it again. So this is the final step I'll do with you, Scott. And then hopefully the emailer can apply some of this to him as well. Okay, so we've got that. We can see that the part is protective. We can see that it's here to remind you and serve you. And, you know, you can almost feel some compassion or gratitude for it.
Starting point is 01:37:08 one final thing I want you to ask this part and just sense it see if you can feel this or not ask this part if now that you understand some of this stuff if it would be willing to trust you a little more and back up a little like it doesn't need to jump in so much
Starting point is 01:37:27 or so intensely to the idea that it's like well yeah especially it was coming up all the time like yeah if it was coming up If you could communicate whether you'd want to say, dude, freaking back off. I'm not going to screw up. I get it.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I'm good today. And there's a difference between saying, dude, back off and, hey, can you try and trust me and give me some space? Right? There's a quality difference. So I want you to actually do it right now. I know it's not happening all the time, but just channel the part and see if it would be willing to continue to keep backing up and that you can appreciate that. yeah and does it feel like it will yeah yeah I mean yeah isn't that weird yeah it is a little bit weird it's weird when you visualize it that way like giving it this is like object oriented programming almost it's like uh it has its little place and now there's a little bit distance between me and that place and there already was like I can't like I say it's hard for me to compare this situation to his because I think his is a little bit more raw for some reason but um I think the process should be the same or should work the same like just put some distance between it and I don't know appreciate it again
Starting point is 01:38:43 here's here's what's tricky is that we want we can say that all day to people just just get over it I mean the core of it is get over it right that's what people say that's the the internal version of that is that part goes oh yeah well clearly you're not ready so I'll just keep doing this right whereas if you are connecting to that part and you are coming at it with understanding and some openness and curiosity and trying to understand why it's showing up and not and not asking it to do anything or demand anything notice i had to ask it politely and it got to choose is it going to back up or not if it doesn't back up it doesn't back up but if it's our relegating or banishing that is very human of us right if you talk to anyone
Starting point is 01:39:31 and say tell me about a part of you that you hate and you can usually find that that part of them has been around forever and it is going nowhere and it's because you hate it and that's it sounds so counterintuitive like well that's what we do with things we hate we banish them we get them away from us we run away we fight we use a lot of fight words yeah a lot of like i am battling blah da da and and this is just completely opposite philosophy which is to befriend and like to understand what is this part doing so anyone listening can do this and just a really easy quick way of just When something comes up, if you can sort of identify it, get a little space from it and be curious about why it's there and see if it'll tell you, it will. It's kind of weird, but it does. And then there's this like, oh, okay, I could not. And this is what I hear all the time. People say, I have never, ever thought of any of these things this way ever. This is not how our brain works internally or our system works internally. it's we do this with people all the time so think about a friend when you are communicating
Starting point is 01:40:41 if you tell them when they're doing something you don't like and you banish them well there we are right or if you um are with a friend and they are hyper protective of you what do you usually do well it might be like i'm okay you can calm you know like you give them you assure them that you've got it it's very similar with these very reactive volume up kind of parts that come in and knock you out come in and you know run you know all of those different things our internal system is operating on everyone's trying to help out the center and if we get that center to be stronger it's it's pretty cool you can do yeah I like this a lot um and I realize we touched on this a little bit in a previous conversation but it's but this applies almost
Starting point is 01:41:28 perfectly here so instead of your foot talk to your uh talk to that part who's bugging you while you're driving which again it's a very common place for these things to pop up because we are we have enough sort of absent brain space happening um so that you know they're going to show up in these moments so that's a good time to get curious about what it would like you to know and why it's showing up and thank it for trying to help you and just you'll you'll feel it calm down it's it's really cool actually right well uh very cool stuff i hope this helps uh listener Let us know if it does. Tell us about your journey and your experience.
Starting point is 01:42:08 We don't get enough of that, I don't think. So let us know how this goes for you. And if you can have that conversation with this strange, invisible appendage that you have hanging out, that's a lot like your foot. I guess that's it. Hey, don't forget everybody. Go over to real steps.org. Dot org to find out all about that cool program that Wendy's got going.
Starting point is 01:42:33 And find out when you can sign up. for the next wave yeah it'll be in august yeah we're just finishing up it's it's it's a it's a fun time for fun folks to learn good things i don't know this is i should not be your PR manager this is terrible uh anyway uh Wendy have a fantastic week and I guess I'll see you in like a month no yeah almost a month is that weird yeah it's weird I'm excited to see your kids and you and Adam and all that and uh between now and then have a great week and we'll see you next time. Okay. Bye, guys.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Bye, Wendy. Bye, now. Let's be done. However, a remote? Big news. Bebe-b-d-be-be-be-breaking news. This isn't even a reminder. This is an announcement.
Starting point is 01:43:19 This is a big announcement here. What? There you go. Big announcement. Monday, instead of a regular show from Memorial Day, and instead of taking it off entirely, we are going to do our play date for this month on that morning. So come on by and hang out.
Starting point is 01:43:34 We don't know what we're playing yet, but we'll come up with something cool. I think we need to dip back into that cool movie thing. The movie, yeah, the fill-in-the-blank movie thing. Yeah, that was great. So we'll play that again, possibly some other jackboxy style stuff. We'll come up with a playlist before them. But come join us 9 a.m. normal show time on Monday for a couple of good hours of playdate time on that day. And then, of course, Tuesday through the rest of the week will be all normal.
Starting point is 01:44:00 There will be a PM tomorrow. So stick around for that if you're a patron. it'll be at 3.30 Mountain Time live. It goes live on the Patreon so you'll see it if you're already signed up there. And if you haven't already, yeah, you can get an extra episode a month plus a bunch of bonus stuff every day by joining us at patreon.com slash TMS. Brian, you got Coverville today. Is that true? Coverville today. Yes. Probably about 2.30. I've got a client meeting. They said, could you do one o'clock? It's like, yeah, that's exactly the time I normally do Coverville, but I'm going to push Coverville out an hour and a half because I'm, I can see this call going a long time. Excellent. Excellent. That sounds like a fun call. The way you're describing it sounds like a blast.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It's a, it's a project that's been crushing me for three weeks, four weeks now. No way. Cushing me. Well. So, but it'll be, a cover will be right after that. Look, Bob Dylan turned 80 years old. I know, you know, you think that he's been looking 80 years old for a lot longer and sounding 80 years old. But, no, I can tell you, he just turned 80.
Starting point is 01:45:03 So, of course, it'll be a coverville episode focusing on his music and all of the All of the music that he's made that people love to do their interpretations of And I've said it before and I'll say it again In many cases, I enjoy a Bob Dylan cover maybe more than I enjoy the original So hopefully you feel the same way So that'll be at about 2.30. I'll probably start the countdown thing at about 10 minutes, 15 minutes before. So just go to twitch.tv.tv slash coverville or coverville.
Starting point is 01:45:36 And click the little button to get reminded when I go live and you'll get the notification. Will you, and during the episode, will you ever going, eh, eh? Like that? Why would I need to? Well, I guess I won't be playing any covers by Bob Dylan. So, yeah, maybe I'll have to just to say, you know, Bob Dylan. Hey, hey, and then everyone at home me, oh, yeah, right, he's talking about Bob Dylan. That guy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Oh, Mama, you can't be the end. well good on you and good luck uh that'll be like you said watch for his notifications and stuff and twitter and all that's it we're done frogpants.com slash tms is our website and if you'd like more communication with us directly you can email us the morning stream at gmail.com that includes questions for windy with an eye makes it easier for me to find these in the email if you if you put her name somewhere either the subject of the body and i'll search for them so windy with And then I, in case yours, it gets missed. In fact, that's how I found this one.
Starting point is 01:46:31 It was in April, but I'm glad I found it. And so if you want to make sure we don't miss your time, put it in there. All right, I think that's it. Let's get out of here. We need music. Do you have music? Let's play it. I do.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Nikki Meadows wrote in and said, Hi, Sand and Beach. My husband, John, and I are taking our first trip away in two years, damn you COVID, and are leaving Saturday, May 29th to head to the Gulf Coast of Florida. Yes, we're visiting America's Wang. This year, we've been married for 18 years. There's no one else I'd rather have spent this time with. I was lucky enough that the sweetest, kindest teddy bear of a man wanted to make me his wife.
Starting point is 01:47:10 I know we'll be listening to TMS on the road, and I would love for John to be surprised with a song and a mention. Even if you can't do the exact day, we'll be on vacation for 10 days during which we'll be listening to TMS. Any day around this would be awesome. Thanks for all you do for listeners. And I wouldn't be opposed to a tender crisp bacon chair to ranch. Oh, man. Okay, I wouldn't either if I could... The Tendicus, bacon, cheddar,
Starting point is 01:47:31 There you go. Thank you, Jury, for making us find that one. Love the show, though, sign Nicky. All right, cool. Yeah, so she requested any cover, any bluegrass cover of a Metallica song, and I had to look back because I was like, oh, yeah, which ones have I already played on this show?
Starting point is 01:47:48 Can you believe I've never played a Picking-on Metallica? What? Iron Horse Bluegrass cover of, Metallica on here. I can't believe it. I can't. If you'd ask me of it, it said yes, and then I would have been wrong. So, that's Yeah, exactly. Well, Iron Horse
Starting point is 01:48:06 did release a two Pickingon series albums dedicated to Metallica called Fade to Bluegrass. This is from the first series. Of course, it's N or Sam, and look, if you're going to, if you're going to start with any cover, bluegrass cover of Metallica, this is
Starting point is 01:48:25 your ground zero. And then you move out from there. Here you go. Here is Enter Sandman by Iron Horse. All right. We'll see you guys tomorrow for PM and then back on Monday for the play date. See you then. Bye.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Say your prayers, little one, don't forget my son to include everyone. Tuck you in, warm within, keep you free from sin till the sand man he comes. Sleep with one eye open. Slip in your pillow tight. Exit light Enter night Take my hand Off to never, never land
Starting point is 01:49:41 Something's wrong, shut the light Heavy thoughts tonight And they yarn up snow wide Dreams of wars, dreams of liars, dreams of dragon's fire, and the things that we'll buy. Sleep with one eye open, gripping your pillow tight, exit light, exit light, internight, take my hand. I'm going to be the I'm going to be. I'm going to
Starting point is 01:50:32 I'm going to I'm going to my and I'm going to I'm going Now I lay me down to lay me down to sleep. Pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I die before I will, pray the Lord my soul to take.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Never mind that noise you heard. Just a beast under your bed. In your closet, in your head. Exit light Enter night rain of sand Exit light Enter night
Starting point is 01:52:41 Off to Never, Never Land This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. A.B.J.

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