The Morning Stream - TMS 2126:Pho'arts

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

One Man's Trash is Another Boy's Porn Collection. I had the Pho and the Pho won. Good old Kentucky Tennessee. The Ike Truman Show! Crypto-Bros 24/7! Throbbing purple ring. Best Burrito By Bike. Like A Horse On A Ferris Wheel. Banging it out with your big jerky stick. Fighting the Black Pudding in Dungeons & Dragons! Don't Turn Your Upsie into an Oopsie! That Nugget is Sus. Cartoon versions of Rick and Morty. Burrito Slippage. Teased-Out TV News Hair with Jury and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, one man's trash is another boy's porn collection. I had the thaw and the Fah One. Good old Kentucky Tennessee. The Ike Truman Show. Crypto Bros. 24-7. Throbbing purple ring. Best burrito by bike. Like a horse on a ferris wheel.

Banging it out with your big jerky stick. Fighting the black pudding in Dungeons and Dragons. Don't turn your upsie into an oopsie. That nugget is suss. Cartoon versions of Rick and Morty. Burrito slippage. Teased out news hair with jury and, more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

It's the cops. What should we do? Ah, damn it. My motorcrolls were just getting warmed up. Penis. Pienies. The morning stream. The morning stream. Where did you get that haircut? In the Army? This is the morning stream.

Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Tuesday, June 8th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian Nibitt. Hello. Good morning. How are you? I'm good, man.

How are you? I'm all right, I think. I had, you know, I told you I had the fun and everything from the other day. Yeah, yeah, Sunday. Chinatown, yeah. Yesterday, I kind of had the all day. Oh, really? A little bit of the, and I don't know what that was about.

The tharts? I'm trying to figure out a way to make F, RTSS. Just really grumpy guts. But nobody else did, and they all had the same thing I did. So it's probably just me. I don't know.

Probably just me. Who knows? But anyway, I'm fine. It's here. We're doing it. We got a show. We got all kinds of shite to do. Oh, speaking of a...

I have a recommendation. Okay. We had a burrito battle yesterday. An argument here at the house about who makes the best fast food burrito. And I thought, well, who better than my morning show co-host Brian Abbott to talk about this because this is the sort of stuff we talk about all the time. Sure, sure. So the discussion came up because I'm of the opinion that if you go to Taco Bell, tacos are good, soft tacos are

good, the hard shell, whatever it's called. I forgot what's called the wrap, the, um, the crunch Crutrap Supreme is good. All right. Chalupas are good. I usually go for a gordita or a chalupa or something. Yeah, those are all all right. Those are all fine. But I think their burrito has slipped in recent years.

I think it's just too small, A, too small, B, just not very well made. It just tastes bad. It's not great. It's not their best item on the menu. And they should have a proper good burrito on that menu. And it bugs me that they kind of don't. All right. On the flip side.

The one here seems to you find. One of my mainstays is the combo one, which is a Taco Supreme and a Breed of Supreme. And at least the one here does okay with their Breed of Supreme. Yeah. And that's the other thing with Taco Bell is. It seems like there's disparity between locations. There totally is, yeah. Yeah.

Look at that one in St. Cloud. Yeah. Or St. George. Or St. George. Yeah. St. Cloud is in Minnesota. We haven't been to the, I got to say, I haven't been to the Taco Bell.

I'm sure it's great. I'm sure those people right in and let us know. Well, anyways, and you're right about that one in St. George. I can't say it enough. If you're going through St. George, you need quick and easy food and you just want to be cheap. There's plenty of wonderful restaurants in St. George, but if you're just ripping through there,

Taco Bell there is better than any Taco Bell I ever had. Anyway, so I decided yesterday I was going to get a burrito because why not? I'm filming all from the FAA from the previous one. Yeah, might as well ride that wave. Yeah, why not? Why not just lean into it, I figured.

And so I decided instead to grab an equivalent burrito, whatever their menu equivalent burrito was at Del Taco. And now I've got the reverse relationship with Del Taco that I have with Taco Bell. I think most of Taco Bell's menu is fine, and their burrito kind of blows, at least locally. I think most of the menu at Del Taco is not great, except I think the burrito is fantastic. it really it really is quite the conundrum right the uh the the greatness of the burrito and the sadness of the rest of the right yeah kind of yeah like they've got fries and a burger there who i don't know who buys that burger someone does um but the point is the big takeaway from the story is if i'm in a pinch and i'm like i need a quick burrito i'm sure there's a million

great burrito places that are not fast food that are great you know amazing burritos even even if they're quick and fast. And maybe you can get a better burrito to, what do you call it, a kudoba or something. Those are all, that's a step up, right? I get that. Sure. But in this range, that thing is bigger, has more ingredients in it, taste better. I love it. So there's my review of the Del Taco Burrito. Del Taco. So there is one that's not too far from me off of Alameda. I haven't been to a del taco in forever 20 minutes away uh oh how much by bike oh yeah see now you know that's not a bad that's not a bad cycling path if i do i love this go down there and get a burrito on your bike that's what i want to see yeah yeah yeah go for it right try it there so here's so this is good

because you could go try the burrito and then tell me if i'm nuts or not you know yeah because maybe i'm full of it maybe this is not good and i just like everyone who tells me that greenland not as good as I said I was yesterday. I'm telling you, I love that movie. Oh, yeah. People are like, how can they tell you how much you liked something? Come on, people. I know. It's like one of the first responses I got was, me, I thought it was bad. Oh, yeah, I know. Dice Tomato, right? No, it wasn't him. It wasn't Dice Tomato in this case. Maybe he was. Maybe he's sneaking around on their other names, but yeah, it was, it's okay to like a thing, you guys. If you learned anything for me over the last five years.

I'm going to incessantly talk about things I like that not everyone likes. Okay. Exactly. Yeah. All right. I thought yesterday was fun when we looked at the day in history, so I want to do it again.

Oh, cool. All right. I'd like to tell you some of the... That's right. We realized, yeah. Today, by the way, I will tell you this is one out of him. I don't even have to look at your calendar. Today, on this date, in 1984,

Ghostbusters was released to theaters. Whoa. Shut it all down. The only good Ghostbusters movie released that many years ago. Fantastic. That's right. I went to see it with my dad and his girlfriend at the time, who is not my current stepmom. No.

Took me to see it. And then we went across the street or across the parking lot to a pizza place that had an arcade in it. And I ate pizza and then played video games, played Battlezone. Everything you're talking about sounds wonderful. Welcome to 1984. What a time we were living in. man yeah yeah 14 15 year old kids in an arcade that's right pizza ghostbusters i mean you all want to live when we lived is what i'm saying totally totally oh that would be a day that would be a day i'd

have no problem going back to because boy i remember also the entire time at that pizza restaurant in our heads in our heads could not get it out of our that song that Ray Parker Jr. was there to stay. Once it came in, you were stuck with it. I have a really cool version of that with do I have it right here?

Let's see. Yeah, I have this great version that's this part of the beginning and then let's skip your head. Oh, yeah. It's an awesome mashup. I love it. That is a great, great combo.

Yeah, got another thunder. It's together so well. I have a thunderstruck one as well. It's pretty good. Anyway, so here's what happened. Well, first of all, let's celebrate today's holidays, all right? It's National Best Friends Day. Oh, that's adorable.

By the way, it says under holiday type, it calls it weird, is the category. Why is that weird? What a weird holiday. Yeah, how weird. Best Friends Day, weird. Fair enough. National Name Your Poison Day. What?

Like, pick your poison. What would you like to drink or? I think so. Okay. Right? What else with that? It doesn't give a description. Why would they call it, name your poison day?

I know. It's odd. And they don't have a link to. Like, National have a drink day. National do a shot day. Something like that. But name your poison. Isn't every day that anyway?

Feels like it. It is in this house. Here's another one. Let's see. National Upsie Daisy Day. Okay. I don't know how you're supposed to celebrate that. Upsie Daisy.

Sure. Yeah. Is Upsi Daisy? All right, let's clarify, because I'm, you know, now that I say it out loud, is Upsi Daisy the thing that you say when you make a mistake? Because I always thought that was Upsi Daisy and not Upsi Daisy. Same. Is Upsi Daisy what you do when you hoist somebody up onto a platform?

All right. Upsi Daisy. Like a little kid. Like you're helping your kid get on top of their bunk bed or something. Yeah, or a horse on the Ferris wheel or something. Or not a Ferris wheel, a merry-go-round or something. Right, exactly. You say, Upsie Daisy.

I think both exist. I think Upsie-Dazy is what you do with that. And then if you drop a, I don't know, a blood pudding in the house. That's when you say, oopsie daisy, oh, drop the blood pudding. Oh, no. Now, what now? what for anyway uh oopsie daisy maybe you're pronouncing it maybe it's just we need to be pronouncing it oopsie daisy yeah i think that's the problem i guess so uh it's also uh world sorry call your

doctor day that's hilarious because i actually called my doctor this morning to change an appointment did you really because i had i was supposed to do blood work on thursday and i can't now because of a schedule conflict so it's to next week but i literally called her today so that's cool uh world oceans day that's fine and then tam is world ocean's 11 day is it so what I'm supposed to celebrate

carry a very small Asian man in a box somewhere and have him break into things do that I remember what apparently what had the biggest influence on you in that movie I've said it enough times

now that you've probably figured out the thing I remember most about oceans 11 is a tiny Asian man in a box it's not the fact that Matt Damon No, no, the Brad Pitt is eating something in every scene he's in. He is constantly holding a container and eating out of it. Yeah. How that guy's not 300 pounds.

I don't know. I don't understand. Okay, some big events happen today in history. Did you know that in 18, we have some Tennessee listeners out there? All these folks in Lexington. No, that's Kentucky. Memphis, Tennessee is what I meant to say. Nashville, those cool towns.

Oops. You You decided to withdraw from the United States in 1861, so there's that. Nice job. Oh, well, that didn't hold, though, apparently, clearly. Didn't keep, but they tried. Here's another one. Oh, that's interesting.

The Antiquities Act signed in the law by the U.S. President, Theodore Roosevelt, this was a big deal, actually. actually or the act authorized the president to restrict parcels of public land for use if they have conservation or historical values basically the beginning of the park system and all that which is really cool that's cool major major accomplishment by a Republican back when they back when they were cool president and they were at one time man we had it going on yeah what the F what the F happened all right moving on how about this one Where was it? I lost it. It's a really big one. Oh, here it is. See, this is gnarly. We all think that bad stuff just happens now because we happen to be here

all the time. Listen to this. 1783, a volcano in Iceland named Lackey erupts and continues to do so for eight months straight. The result is the death of over 9,000 people and a famine which lasts seven years killing upteen

who knows how many thousands more. All in Iceland. Wow. It inspired 11,000. Bjork songs, too. Yeah. Feels like, feels like a Leninade, Lincoln. The volcano is erupting.

It won't stop. Yeah. When will the volcano stop? Yeah, yeah. You can keep going. Sure. You can go forever. No, I'm done.

I think I've done. There you go. Lennon in the chat says that Lincoln was the last Normie. Sometimes it feels like it. I'm not sure that's correct, but I don't know. What's his name was pretty cool? Who was the dude after FDR, World War II time? Not Roosevelt.

Ah, I can't think he was name. I liked him. He was cool. Eisenhower? Truman. No, Eisenhower. Eisenhower. Yeah, Eisenhower.

Yeah, I was a great president. Yeah, Truman was a great president. That Truman, President Truman. the Truman show. Anyway, yeah, I liked I liked Ike, like the old phrase said. I mean, I wasn't alive then. Like the button on your shirt says you liked Ike. Yeah.

It just feels like Ike wouldn't tell people that vaccines put radios in your body. Well, no, exactly. I think we just need to get to a place where, and who knows if we'll ever get back to this place. But it would be nice to get back to a place where you voted for the guy who, who does the most things that you want to have happen as opposed to just saying, nope, he's Democrat, I'm only voting for the Democrat, or nope, he's Republican. I'm only voting for the Republican. Let me get back to that.

Yeah, I'm sick. Tribalness can eat a turd and then choke on it. That's finally, this one here. Oh, universal pitchers, 1912 began. That was the beginning of the universal pictures. Yeah. They would go on to make Waterworld one year. That's right.

Yep. In Jurassic. Jurassic Park, too. Oh, sure. Yeah, we'll give them that one. You know, Waterworld mainly. Should we give them that one? Yeah, mainly Waterworld is one I'm thinking of.

Okay. All right. Sure. Clearly the better of the two movies, you know, uh-huh. How about this one? Final one here. Where to go? Oh, the novel 1984 by George Orwell was published on this day in 1949.

Whoa. So, so wait. the book, the novel 1984 published on this date, but in 1984, Ghostbusters came out on this date, which was about people shooting stuff

with streams. And by the way, and not setting books on fire. I would remind people that despite the fact that 1984 in the book was such a dystopic, hideous time, the actual 1984 turned out to be a badass year. That was a

great year. If you were a nerd or a kid into movies or you were into music, whatever you think was. It was the greatest time to be alive. 8485, name a better couple years you can't do it. Purple Rain come out that year, too, for the album. Yeah, 1984, June 25th. Oh, we're getting close to the anniversary of that, too. Yeah, Van Halen's Jump.

That was a thing. That's right. That's right. The album was called 1984. Anyway, famous birthdays real quick, we got the Barbara Bush. She was born today in 1925. She's passed. I like Barbara Bush.

She was nice. And I thought, I personally... Come on. Say it. I personally thought she looked great on the Quaker Oats box. I really go. Like a lot of people had problems with it, like issues with her being on the Quaker Oats box,

but I really thought Barbara Bush really knocked out of the park on that. Sometimes you just need to hear the greatest hits. Let's see. Jerry Stiller. George's dad Really 1927 So ready to be now

Yeah he just passed sadly Not long ago Yeah I'm short Joan Rivers also dead She was born in 33 on this day And then a guy that invented the World Wide Web Tim Berners Lee

Born on this date It wasn't Gore No what? Nope Definitely not him He's a poo poo Oh and Julianna Margulies Was born today

Oh she's still alive She's lovely Oh, and sorry, Frank Lloyd Wright. He's responsible for a lot of stuff, I guess. A lot of cool architecture. Yeah, he's a man. Falling Waters. Hey, Brian, tell me about this email you got here.

Yeah, Brucey Cakes wrote, Ronan, and said, hey, Brian, just listen to the episode where Crazy Neighbor put a plastic hose reel in your recycling bin. My wife, my wife, works for public services, and she has stories all the time of people putting stuff in the recycling bin that is not recyclable. Yes, it might be plastic. or have the little recycling symbol on it, but all they accept is cardboard that doesn't have any food grease on it,

i.e. Pizza box isn't cool, according to the rules, and bottles slash jugs and cleaned out tin cans. Cleaned out tin cans. No clamshells from restaurants. Okay. But he means the, he means styrofoam, those little clamshell containers from restaurants. Sure.

Not actual shells from clams. That makes sense. But it basically comes down to who your driver is, and if they like you, for public services, they will either take it and possibly find the account. And if it's a constant thing, they will flag the account and just not pick up. FYI, the trucks have cameras so they can see what falls out of the can. It's amazing the pictures that my wife will show me what people have tried to recycle.

Love the show, Brucey Cakes. So hose dispenser notwithstanding, there are some other, the worst things, it sounds like. There are worse things. Yeah, I'd love to see some of the sodas. But it bums me out that like even a pizza box, well, you know, So pizzas, we get, when we do get pizzas, we get them from Marcos. And Marcos and your buddy, Marco, and Gino and come to California. Anyway, Marcos puts a sheet of wax paper or parchment paper under the pizza, and that keeps the box from getting greasing, so we are able to recycle those boxes.

So that's the reason you can't do those as the grease? Is that the means? Any food waste on recycling items is not good. Okay. Gotcha. Or any plastics, apparently, according to John. Or any styrofoams, even if it's got the little icon on the bottom. Yeah.

Well, we basically, we're now doing, you know, cans, any kind of aluminum. Tin cans, aluminum cans. Cardboard's okay. But also, our people said, don't do cardboard if it's covered in, you know, if it's painted cardboard, meaning like a bunch of branding on it. Which I figure, like, some of those Amazon boxes, when they've got a promotion or something going on, there is so much printing on those Amazon boxes. Yeah, or stickers with printing on them on the boxes, which, you know, again, is a whole

another layer of problem. But like in the case of a TV box, for example, those LG slash Samsung TV boxes, oh, yeah. They're just a big painted cardboard box. Right. That can't be recycled? They told me they couldn't take those. is what our garbage people told us.

So they're not garbage people. They're waste disposal people, not garbage people. I don't associate with any garbage people. Right, exactly. Garbage people are the ones who troll on Twitter. So our beef jerky dealer, he's a waste disposal guy. He is. He is.

Did he send, I don't know if you've seen this, but he sent me some photos. I wish I had him here. I'd just put him in Discord. But he sent some photos of the inside of his truck. I've never seen some of that stuff. I know he sent that to me. Me too. He also sent me a photo. The day after I talked about the hose reel and the recycling bin, he sent me a photo of somebody who stuck their hose reel in their garbage bin and said, check it out. Oh, wow.

Crazy timing. Yeah, I guess it's probably more common than we think. Yep. But that joystick is like this big old monster freaking flight stick in the middle of his truck. Yeah. Yeah. and you just and then like this morning they were doing our garbage you can hear him going

way way way way trying to bang it out and then put it back down and now I just picture him with his big stick thinking about the jerk you want it to be like the like the flight stick pros

that we had in the 90s where you had the not just the flight stick but the buttons on it that's probably the thing that just like wax the back of it like yeah bang bang bang takes whatever plastic you're not supposed to recycle out of there

anyway uh well thank you for that uh brucey cakes such a great name too brucey cakes we appreciate the feedback all right oh if you'd like to send us emails you can please feel feel free to send us a photo some of the photos your wife has of uh what people have tried to recycle because i'd be curious to say 100% would love to see that we'll show them on the show yeah exactly it won't be a dead raccoon that wouldn't show it wouldn't show anything like uh it wouldn't never and we'd never see anything that would be super personal and no one to know who it is right it would just be a garbage can with stuff in it okay yeah i figure if you're if you put stuff in the trash um did you ever go through a period i'll admit to this when i was well probably right around

1984 uh i was fascinated with garbage in that i wanted to go to i would go to the dump with my dad to dump stuff for his work all the time and boy howdy did i have to resist wanting to dig through and find treasure, like find stuff that people threw out that they shouldn't have or that I thought was cool or whatever. I got a friend up the street had a whole porn collection you'd find in the trash because this neighbor would throw porn out all the time. So he just had these stacks of like old vintage, you know, playboys or whatever. Right. Hustlers.

Right. But in my case, it was like, ooh, what's that shiny thing or what's this? My dad's like, you can't dig through there. It's gross and dirty. But I was so, I could see myself being one of those people that goes out to a dump and fish us through there. to find some rad. My buddy John in high school was big into that,

but he liked going to industrial parks and looking at what they threw away because he, you know, it was like bigger, cooler stuff. Like, oh, you can totally turn this into a bar or turn this into a fort or something like that. And at one point he did find a sit-down cocktail video game table. It didn't work, but the monitor was still in there. I don't know what game it was, but he called me up or came to my, Rose bike to my house and said, Brian, you got to go help me pick

this thing up. And we carried that thing for a mile and got it to his place, plugged it in. Of course nothing happened. No one's going to throw away a working cocktail video game table. What was the game? Do you know the game? I wish I could remember. It wasn't anything, it wasn't It wasn't something memorable like, you know, Donkey Kong or Pac-Man or something like that. It was like, it was probably bubble-bobble or, or, what's the cops, what's the one cop chase, something like that? Oh, it's behind me. Chase something and shit. Oh, maybe that's why I'm thinking of the Lock and Chase.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it probably wasn't Lock and Chase then. I'm probably just thinking that. Never got it working. I mean, we didn't know what we were doing. We, you know, we did the thing where you took. take the sides off and you look at it and you're basically looking for something as easy as a pair of shoelaces that are untied or, uh, you know, something that's like, oh, that's easy to fix.

That's clearly the problem. Sure. Oh, everything's working. But, uh, yeah. Yeah. That's cool, though. I still would have, I would have taken home that cocktail machine. Yeah.

Hell yeah. I would have, but here's what you did, Brian. You missed this opportunity. All you had to do was activate Pac-Man. Had you done that, you'd have been set. Clearly, if I could have activated. Yeah, if you had activated Pac-Man in that accent. We give it our best effort.

Oh, cooking mama. Is there anything she can't do? All right, we're going to do some news. Sit back and relax, everybody, and enjoy this. Here it comes. In the news is sponsored by... You'll find quantity in our corner. That's right.

The news is here, and it's brought to you by. The Boop Show, Indies and Retro Gaming at its finest with Scott and Brian Dunaway. Check the show live. Today at 330 Mountain. in time at frogpants.tv or get it later on a podcast whenever details at frogpans.com slash boop. That's right. Or wherever you get your podcast, just go grab it. I noticed it was on the Amazon, if you tell your echo to play it, it'll play it. So I guess all that stuff, I moved, I registered everything and then never heard anything and I guess it all just works. So I don't know. I think I

can do coverville there, can I? You totally can. Here, let me try this. Hold on. Play Coverville. Wow, she's giving you an essay. Alexa, cancel. She's giving you like about a thousand reasons why she won't do it. Kind of, yeah. She got real confused with that. All right, I think you've got to say the Coverville podcast.

Oh, is that what it is? Let's try it now. Okay. All right, sorry. play the coverville podcast yeah yeah I love that it did

I'm going to read you the XML file before I play any music that is kind of what she does here is the iTunes header but others may not use this Alexa cancel oh my gosh she's playing it that's awesome there it goes all right

sorry I didn't mean to set off anybody else's things at home. No, you didn't say her name, so you didn't. You did just fine. Oh, I thought I said it a couple times. All right. An elephant herd is in the news. We got elephants, you guys.

Look out. Elephants are here. We've got elephants! That's what you call them. You call them a herd, and they raised, that is destroyed, a 500-kilometer path of destruction after escape from a Chinese nature reserve. Oh, no. It reminded me of, like, well, Greenland had a moment of that.

Oh, no, no. What am I thinking of? Not Greenland. Oh, the new thing we're watching. Both of us were watching. There was a zoo thing. Yes. Yes. Oh, it's so good. I'm really digging that show. Yeah, how far are you into? We've got two episodes left. Oh, you're way ahead of me. I'm two in is all. Okay. I'm really hoping that the destination that we see the destination in the show because I'll just say, red rocks.

I love red rocks. I love to see it in the show. the reference in the second episode even, the family in that cabin were like, oh yeah, we used to go there all the time before the world went weird. And I went, oh, we really, we end up there. I just saw Brian Regan's special was in Red Rocks.

Oh, did they? Is that the Netflix thing is from Red Rocks? Yeah, it's awesome. You should watch that. Oh, I can't wait to watch it. That was a show that I was thinking I was going to pay 75 bucks to go to. And I'd much rather just have it free

with my Netflix subscription. Yeah, but I think I recommend it that one. It's a much better price. You must have missed the part of it. part about Red Rocks when I recommended it. I think you did. Well, it was when it was how long ago? It was a month ago, two months? Something like that. Oh, really? That recent? It's pretty recent, yeah. It just came, I mean, it's got to only be a couple of months old. But he did it. I think I made a big deal about how it was the first comedy concert I'd seen with actual laughter because there's an audience, but also they all had masks on, which was weird. And it was outside. Oh, yeah, we did talk about that. And I think we even talked about how beautiful Red Rocks was at the time. I can't believe that venue exists. It's amazing place to see anything, any concert, any performance. It looked insane. Yeah. And the acoustics must be crazy there. Must be just so cool.

Crazy. The acoustics are insane, Scott. They're insane. I don't even like an amphitheater, but that's basically a perfect amphitheater. It is. Normally those kind of bug me because it feels like, I don't know, kumbaya kind of camping bullshit, but that is not. Really? Yeah. I don't know why. You know what it was? All my scouting years when I was a kid when I was in scouts, there was always an amphitheater, different sizes, mostly small, and you do skits there, and I hated it. They hated those things. So whenever I see like an outdoor venue, like the Hollywood Bowl, I see that, and I just go, I don't know why.

Really? I'm sure I'd love to see something there. Oh my God. I mean, seeing a concert with the sky above, I can't tell you how many shows I've seen at Red Rocks where it rains just as whoever the band is is performing a song that contains the word rain. You just notice it all of a sudden. It's like, ah, I've stood here before inside of the pouring rain, just like us. I watch the rain's down and air.

I like that. There comes the rain again. She's singing about now. I mean, I like, but see, this is the thing. I would like it in that kind of Red Rock's, you know, desert canyon looking business. That's where I would thrive. So it's, for some reason, I have this distinction. That's cool.

This other stuff is less cool. I don't know why. Okay. All right. it's a weird thing no skits for me that's right um all right anyway so a herd of 15 elephants how many elephants do you have to have before it's a herd i wonder probably more than two uh i would say six is your is a herd anything six or more as a herd okay okay that you know what uh it has to start somewhere six may as well be it's got to stay somewhere well a herd of

15 wreaked havoc in china trampling crops and causing more than a million dollars worth of damage and the animals escaped from the nature reserve last year, or after they escaped from a nature reserve last year. Wait a minute, last year. I guess this is a fresh escape. Anyway, the elephants have made a five. I think they've got a problem on their hand. It's a 311 mile journey through the southwestern province of Yunnan

from the nature reserve of Jishu Bangbana. And Yuxi, a city of 2.6 million people, leaving a trail of destruction. in their wake. It is unclear why they left their preserve or their home there, but on their travels, the elephants have caused 412 separate incidents of damage. Financial losses around 6.8 million

won. 412 separate incidents of damage. That's a lot. It's a lot. It is a lot. There's just a weird. 56 hectares of farmland in these counties.

Let's see. The creatures have also caused significant disruptions. from the locals. Last week, residents were told to stay indoors and pedestrians and vehicles evacuated in the town of Ishan after the elephants roamed the streets for six hours. Dude, these guys are out of control, man. What do you do? What do you do about 15 wild elephants? You go and do you do, do you, I guess, right? I mean, do you, uh, if you can stop the first two or three in the front, can you stop, like, will it stop the rest? I don't know. It seems like how you'd have to do it, right? Does word spread to the front?

you know do they go oh shoot the humans have the humans have got guns well no i mean i'm thinking that's why you start with the front because then if the front ones stop the back ones will be like okay okay we're done and elephants are dumb you put a rope on their foot and they think they can't move so why is this a problem i feel like i don't know i feel like these elephants are are taking the piss as the british say they're taking the piss i don't know yeah who knows uh all right you played we played among us you know that game among us we've played it many times as part of uh part of a deal here, yeah. Yeah, well.

A part of a play date. Well, here's the beauty. Among Us shaped McNugget has now sold for $100,000 U.S. $100,000 for a chicken McNugget. $100,000.

Yeah, here's a picture of it. That's a fly. Why isn't this showing up? Do I have a blocking or something? I think I'm blocking. I think I'm blocking this photo, which is no good. Oh, we'll look at the eBay listing.

How about that? I'll look at it. Oh, they've taken it down. Oh, does that why I saw the photos are... It says the bidding has ended on this item, but then they... Oh, no, there it is. There it is. Okay.

$99,997 for this thing. $184 bids. It's literally just got like two little feet. It's like a... I didn't think that chicken McNuggets had any other shapes. Those are, they like have a mold. They're processed. Yeah, but I guess...

but that's a problem right maybe the mold the entry point of the mold had a weird thing or maybe maybe the whatever the hell this coating is squeezed out the side I don't know I have no idea yeah could be could be uh Leninade says as an NFT no I think it's just dollars yeah it's just dollars man there's no NFT on this

plus uh eBay does not yet take they don't do crypto uh yet but uh yeah man We missed our opportunities, what I'm saying. There was an opportunity here. Yeah, we should have been one of these early bids. Shipping was $4.15 for this $100,000 freaking.

I wonder if they bought it. Can you confirm that they paid for it? Because this seems nuts to me. It does seem kind of ridiculous, yeah. Oh, my gosh. It'll be like one of the eBay things that I got with these damn laptops, which is, oh, now that I've won the auction, can you tell me

what's the video processor in there? Oh, yeah, I don't want it now. Thanks. Bye. Yeah. Also, why, can I ask this? Yeah. Why is a listing for a chicken McNugget with two legs?

Why are all the related sponsored items fake money with Trump's face on it? Because you bought fake money. Did you buy your fake money on eBay? No, I get that on Amazon. Oh. Okay. So there's a $1,000 bill.

I was just looking at what you may have been shopping for. There's a $1,000 bill you can buy. Because if you're dumb enough to buy a chicken McNugget, then you're dumb enough to buy fake Trump money. I think you're right. It's got to be, right? There's a lot of these. Why are these? Why?

What? Oh, there's a Kobe Bryant $2 bill. That's kind of cool. I don't know what to make of that. That's a weird thing, man. I don't know. I try not to make sense of this stuff. All right, moving on.

By the way, the listing was Among Us-shaped Nugget was what sold this thing. This was in a combo meal from the BTS meal. So this is that K-pop version of the thing. The seller promised... Did that come with eight pieces of chicken? Did they all look indiscernible the same as each other? Right, with just slight differences to their hair. Oh, man, we're going to get in trouble.

The BTS Army, they'll kill. kill you. They will kill you. They will. They will kill us where we stand. They will eat the flesh from your bones and then bury the rest in the backyard. That's how bad I get. Anyway, let's see here. The food product has an average expiration of a date about

14 days. So they're delivering it within edible time. So it's still edible. Let's see here. If you're paying 100,000 for a chicken nugget, I think you laminate that. You put it

resin or something. Oh yeah, there's no way you eat this, right? Why would you? Oh my gosh. Even if it's still within edible time. Yeah. Freaking chicken? I know. I guess it's cooked chicken, but still, I would not say, uh... It's barely chicken, though. 14 days. Jeez. This is that weird pink flesh stuff. They get off the bone or whatever. It's not even real chickens. Right, exactly. It says, uh, the guy even said in the listing, quote, I have Seshwan sauce at buyer's request and we'll ship some with the nugget. Of course he does. Yeah. Yeah.

That Rick and Morty Seshwan sauce. I mean, you know, it's a big hit. Those two, they just saw video. They're putting Rick and Morty in Fortnite of all things. Oh, really? It looks like cartoon versions of them. It actually looks really good. Like, I don't want to play it.

But visually, it looks like not just crap thrown together. They look like somehow you put Rick and Morty into that world and it works weirdly, kind of too. D and 3D. It's weird. Yeah. But yeah, you can't, look, all I know is if I was the Among Us developers, I'd be a little annoyed that a nugget shaped like one of your characters went for so much money and you'll see none of it.

And you'll see none of it, exactly. Yeah, you'll get none of that. I guess they're doing fine. They're making millions, so they're fine. Yeah. Whatever. I would love to, I mean, I just love to see one of these. The problem is, people who have 100 grand for a nugget, they don't listen to podcasts.

So we'll never be able to connect with this guy. No, they listen to a podcast, but it's just the Jill Rogan show. Oh, right. Or they just listen to, what's the bunker? What is it the app where you'd sit and listen to Crypto Bros all day? What's that called? Crap. Oh, not Clubhouse.

Clubhouse, that's it, Clubhouse. Oh, Clubhouse, okay. Clubhouse is just, you go in there and you listen to people just rub each other's nub. Is it crypto bro 24-7? Oh, it's horrible, dude. I got in on that thing. I got an invite, and I thought, let's check this out, see what's going on. I'm just hunting around for anything.

And all I ran into is guys, so you'd go in there and go, so thanks for coming. I'm just, we're here to talk about how you can stack your Ethereum earnings by doing, I'm like, okay, let's get out of this one. I'll go to this other one. And there's just two guys and they're going, yo, bro, I'm telling you right now, you know, sell your Bitcoin tomorrow, but buy back on Wednesday. And like, it's just, okay, what is this? I don't want to do this.

This is lame. So I got out. Yeah, good. deleted it from my phone. All right, here's, oh, this is good. Oh, this is great. Okay. So this lady, 46 years ago, lost her wallet on a night out, and they found it in a theater.

And I got returned to her 46 years later. This is crazy. Wow. An employee working at a remodeling project in a historic theater in California found a wallow that was lost by a patron 46 years ago. Tom Steven said he was in the crawl space underneath the balcony, the majestic Ventura Theater. in Ventura when he found the wallet and the ticket stubs, empty drink containers, and candy wrappers down there.

Ew. Let's see. Yeah, I think I'd leave it. Thanks. Yeah, I think I'd probably not take that. The wallet contains some old photos, a ticket stub for the 1973, Grateful Dead Concert, and California driver's license, which expired in 76. Stephen said he searched online for

Colleen Diston, the name of the driver's license, was unable to find any info. His boss, Loan Woldiart, suggested to use the theater's Facebook page and attempted to find the owner. I mean, you give it a lot of people's full names in this article.

Yeah, they really do. It's like a freaking docs article here. Yeah. Let's see. It says, the post was shared. A whole bunch of people saw it. I guess she was, it finally reached her. She was a lifelong resident of the area.

It says a lot about our society that the people are looking for a human story and something to feel good, distant told the Ventura County Star. Said she lost her wallet while watching a movie in 1975, although, well, I guess the ticket stub or something else. Anyway, she said she called the business the next day, discovering her while it was missing,

but the disappointment in learning it had not been found by employees. Kind of disappointing that the Ventura Theater doesn't clean as thoroughly. Like it took him 46 years to clean under that chair? Yeah, that seems like a lot. There was a little kid born that day that she lost it, and he's 46 now. So there's your perspective. Distin said the cash was not in her wallet because whoever removed it probably just tossed it into this crawl space.

But she was overdraft to be reunited. Yeah, somebody probably found it and then like, you're grateful dead. Yeah, lost the rest of it. Lame. Pitchers of kids, lame. Anyway, fun story. Fun story to wrap your heart around, Brian. I don't know what the movie was.

What did she watch in 1975? Let's see what the hot movies were. Best or, I'll see, biggest movies. 1975. This is a pre-Star Wars era we're in here. Yeah. So I'm thinking like... Top 30. Serpico? Is Serpico 1975? Oh, you were so close. Dog Day afternoon. Oh, your afternoon. Which is a lot like Serpico.

It's another... It's another Pacino. Yeah. It's a great movie. That movie's awesome. Yeah. Jaws. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Nashville. Oh, Jaws was 75. Of course, yeah. The Holy Grail. That's a fun one. uh stepford wives night moves gray gardens um rocky horror picture show she was watching the apple dumpling gang oh rocky her picture was 75 as well maybe she threw she thought her wallet was toast she threw toast oh shit that was my wallet oh we're screwed that's probably it right there three days of the congoor sunshine boys french connection two the passenger boy and his dog what else uh I need to see three days of the

Condor. I never saw that shampoo is in here. Adventures of the Wilderness family. What the hell is that? Oh, Roller Ball, that's cool. We watched that for Film Sack. James Kahn. That's a good year.

An okay year. Death Race 2000. We've seen that. We've seen that one. Yeah. We've dipped our toe into 1975 on Film Sack. Sure. Escape from which mountains on there. Anyway, I'm going to assume she saw I'm going to say she saw

Let's say she saw Monty Python on the Holy Grail Because that's cool We'll give her there you go That's a good, that'd be a good choice Better than the apple doubling gang Yeah, I agree Okay Man, we were five years old then

Is that weird? It's weird. It's weird. Moving on to this, that's it, we're done. We're moving on now to the break That's what we're doing. We're going to play a song

And when we return, Justin Robert Young will be here. We're not going to necessarily take the path we were used to today. So, stick around to find out what that means. Before that, though, we have a song. Brian, will you play it? I will play it. Well, I'll tell you what it is, and you'll play it technically, because, you know, that was, that's how things work. Tennis system is the name of a band, yes. And these guys have a brand new album coming out called Autophobia, Fear of One's Self. These guys are from L.A., and for the title track,

they teamed up with Chadwick Johnson, who is from the band 100th. And this is, like I said, the title track. This album comes out late summer 2021, but you're going to get to hear it right now. Here is Tennis System and the song Autophobia. That sounds great. All right, we're going to take this break. We'll be right back. Please stand by.

If I only said what I was, thinking maybe then you know why I get so long, even when I have what I want, It takes control Fear of being alone I hide inside Fearings I could never show You said goodbye But I could never let you go Even when she's by my side, I'm on my own, never felt so long.

I hide inside, feelings I could never show you said goodbye, but I could never let you go. I try to deny Why it moves so slow And I keep going back Because I can never let it go I had inside I had inside feelings I could never show

You said goodbye But I could never let you go Let you go Let you go Let you go Let you go Let you go One thing about me, a few years ago, I got to be an extra in an Adam Sandler movie, and it was very fun.

Pooh, sorry, wait. polyurethane in the morning. This is the morning stream. I just like to tell a central tremor that if he thinks, if he thinks saying the dog day afternoon and Serpico are similar movies is somehow weirdly racist, I don't know what to do for you, buddy. I can't help you. Wow, yeah, I don't know.

I can't help you. He thinks I'm on a roll because we were talking about how all the BTS boys look the same to us, thinking that means we're saying all. Asians look the same. It's not what we're saying. Yeah. But that's what he's thinking. Essential Tremor, I don't know why you come to the show in me here live. I don't know why you drive yourself here in the morning. I don't know why you like it? I don't know what you're doing.

All right, Brian, hey, why don't you remind me what that song was again, so I don't forget it. You bet. That song was Tennis System from their upcoming album, Autophobia. That is the title track. Oh, very nice. All right. Let's get Justin in here. You know him as Justin Robert Young. Some of you call him jury. We just call him that guy. That's not true. That guy, that Tuesday guy.

That one guy. Was you the Tuesday guy? By the way, did you know, and we're going to ask him about this? He and Brian did a Demio live stream like a couple of weeks ago, a week ago. After I thought of the idea, but before I talked about the idea. Oh, it was your idea, was it? Okay, I see. Well, we should bring that up.

Let's do that after this. These are their stories. Oh, I'm terrible with name. Welcome to the part of the show we look forward to most on Tuesdays. That is the introduction of our good pal, Justin, Robert Young. Good welcome. Good morning, Justin. How are you? Good welcome to you. Good welcome to you, boys, as well.

It's nice to have you here. I hope you're well. So you guys also played that Demio thing? What did you think of your role-playing VR experience? I heard that, this is the first time hearing that you guys played. That's awesome. Have you played it? No, but Brian's planning a thing this weekend for a chair. live stream of it for Alzheimer's

Alzheimer's charity this weekend. Yeah, yeah. Oh, for real? Very exciting, yeah. Did you guys have fun with that? Oh, dude. Beat the Elvin Queen without taking any damage. What? Nice.

Oh, my gosh. You know what? This proves. You play video games that aren't hearth stone. That's what this proves. Can you believe it? I mean, look, I like I like what I like. I've actually played a lot of Oculus. but it's really more of a gathering tool.

Like, I just like playing it with friends. It is the greatest multiplayer experience. I think I've had since, like, GameCube. Like, things were like old consoles that all my friends would just gather around either because we were teenagers or in college. Well, I think it's awesome. You've now entered into the fray of hardcore role-playing games, and I expect soon that you will run your own D&D campaign, and I'm really looking forward to it.

So let's know how that goes. Hey, not really, though. We are happy to have you here, and we did something a little bit different this week. You and I were talking offline about documentaries and stuff. And this must have happened because we had a raid from you yesterday, and a bunch of your listeners were piling in here, and just the first thing them out of their mouths was,

Justin watched Murder Among the Mormons. And it just kind of repeating it. And I thought, Oh, okay, cool. He did watch it, and now we get to talk about it. So you got to, let me give you a little bit of background on why I think this. Well, I've got a lot of questions. I'll bet you have tons.

I've got a lot of questions. Here's the only background I'll give you because it's my own person. This will mostly be about this movie. So all of your vitriolic hate messages can be shelved temporarily. Yeah, put it in part, is what we're saying, everybody. All right. Bad Poole favorite Justin Robert Young. Don't worry.

You can keep all of your commentary about how I'm Hitler to yourself. Keep your Justin as Hitler business to yourself. All right. So here's the, just from my perspective, why I wanted to have any setup on this, because otherwise you've seen it so you know. But this is specifically a big deal for me because the years, were like 84, 85, somewhere in there.

I actually, yeah, I would actually love to just ask you questions. Okay, go. Ask good questions. I took the same information, but I really am curious to just ask you. Go for it. Like, what do you remember about this growing up? Almost everything. So it was such a big deal locally because there were these murders and these murders were happening via car bombs and house bombs and, you know, like these weird bombings

that seemed like terrorist attacks that nobody knew quite where. they were coming from and there was a lot of confusion about it and a lot of sort of local panic about it and nobody knew what the motivations were in the beginning or any where for a long time nobody knew like on the ground maybe the investigators knew and it seems like in that documentary they explained a lot of that but for us you know just citizens of the state where the attacks were happening we didn't know much about any of it and all we did know is that it seemed like they were serial and they were happening on a more frequent basis and it felt like just about anybody could get hit by them but then certain details start coming out and there's stuff like connected

to the to the Mormon church which is uh you know headquartered here and stuff about like the the ancient document trade which I guess is a giant thing here but this was all so did did you know about that part of the story growing up like because certainly the uh the world the Mormon world is something that is kind of fascinating to many people mostly because it has become so culturally relevant in a

part of the country that is not moat or cut off but certainly culturally not a part of the West Coast scene and not a part of the East Coast scene, not really even a part of the Midwest world like the Denver and Salt Lake City are kind of their own vibes no matter what.

But it's also a very young religion which means that like it made a lot of sense in the documentary as they were going over the fact that like all right, this document trade of finding contemporary documents along with the founding of

the Mormon faith is something that's feasible because you're not finding it at the bottom of, you know, a pile of silt in Israel somewhere, right? Like you're finding it in Buffalo. Like you're

like it could be underneath somebody's McDonald's Cup because it's something that happened a hundred and some odd years ago as opposed to thousands of years ago. And you have the benefit of modern writing utensils. Were you aware as a youth of that fascination of Mormon collectors and just its relation to the faith in general? No, not at first, but as the story began to unfold and we learned more via the news or whatever at the time. Yeah. Things like the salamander letter and these different documents, these names started circulating. And I understood, you know, I'm like 14 years old. I understood that that meant,

oh, they've found some, in theory, they found these some documents. And some of these, I guess, are, you know, they were reported to be, oh, really weird stuff or super contradictory to the church's founding. Is it going to really shake things up and piss a lot of people off? and um and then when we and then the the part that i remember very just just to catch people up so they're not totally left in the dark here the letter that is found that kind of begins our story of this document collector uh is a letter that is is from contemporary of joseph smith that says instead of him being led to the golden plates by the angel maroni it was by a white salaman sorry i've heard of pronounce moroni in a long time that's fantastic but yes you're correct

uh the idea that's how you say it right is that is is is maroni it's more it's morone it's it's more it's more it's just it's funny to hear other people say it a different way because there's like a marona i didn't know in my mind he's italian he's moron he's moroni yeah it's totally fine people do it all the time but anyway the point is like yes like there was this there were okay so people understand and the documentaries on netflix you can watch it and they explain all this but but uh the conceit is one of the conceits what the church is is that in the early 1800s joseph Smith had a vision and in his in the in the official record the vision is he's visited by god and he's told kind of what to do and by angels and what to do all right again it's religion

so you know every every religion's got a fun backstory this is the only thing weird about this one is that it happens sooner yeah it happens sooner just remember that remember that's one of it's a It's actually kind of the hard part to explain to people is this, yeah, it happens sooner, so it seems weirder, but it's not all that weird. But anyway, because it was closer to television dinners. Like, does it mean that all the religions don't have the exact same parts? Right. So this is like 18, whatever it was, I forget the exact day and or dates.

Yeah. Anyway, the, the, the official record is that. Well, this supposed salamander letter was supposedly written penned by Joseph Smith, claiming that all of this interaction actually happened with this, like, lizard, a salamander. A lizard led him to the plates and not the angel. Right, right, which caused a complete freak out among everybody who heard it. Like, most people were like, that isn't right. And other people are like, well, what if it is?

And then the church got interested because they want to, they want to own as much historical documentation as possible, even when it's boring stuff. And in this particular case, this is not. not only boring, but potentially damning or potentially controversial to the point that they'd, you know, have to address it or whatever. And trust me, plenty of controversial things in the church's history. They'd have to explain all the time. This would be one more of those.

But that got real. You remember the theological freak out. Like that was something that punctuated into mainstream life in Salt Lake City for a teenager or child, wherever you were in your development. Yeah. And it wasn't just like the A block of whatever the Mormon version of the 700 Club is. Yeah. Keep in mind, this is a time of my life from like, ooh, yeah, that, that, that, oh, yeah, interesting. Buzz, buzz, buzz. Hey, that girl's hot. Can I take your car? Because I don't have my license yet. That was all on the back of the newspaper. You know, if this were a movie, you'd be reading the headline just so you can tear off a piece of the newspaper and write down somebody's phone number. Exactly. That's totally exactly right. So, so, so the, the, the, the next part of that is that they,

and they go through all of this in the movie, but it's discovered that those are forgeries. None of it was real. And the one, specifically the Salamander letter, which he supposedly, this Mark Hoffman guy, supposedly was going to sell for like 300 grand back to the church. He did. No, the salamander letter was sold.

What is controversial was never delivered, though, right? Like no one ever got there. Another treasure trove of documents. Right. that has even more explosive claims to it, up to it, including that it wasn't Joseph Smith who initially found the plates. And, like, there was, there was a whole other thing

that was like on the verge of being sold. Meanwhile, he's also selling the oldest documents ever found in American history. Yeah. And now we can kind of get to sort of the breaking down of the documentary itself. Yeah. I loved it 10 out of 10.

I recommend to everybody. Same. It's good. Largely because my biggest problem with our modern era of documentaries is that nothing is a documentary anymore. Everything's a documentary series. And sometimes that's really good because you would think

documentaries oftentimes if they're jamming themselves into an hour and a half, two hour runtime, you're going to wind up summarizing things that maybe would be better if you blew them out a little bit. So maybe thinking of documentaries by default as three hours or four hours or five hours

is a better way to go about it and you know Ken Burns kind of said his own template there we've kind of moved more into that realm the problem is that a lot of stories do not need to be four or five six hours they could be two and a half three hours

and you take that little extra so it's not a movie length but but it can chop into three parts really easily murder among the Mormons is a chef's kiss perfect three hours that all have their own thing.

The first episode is all about the crime that leads up to these horrifying things that happen. The second is all about determining exactly who did it and in that you get into the idea that these are forgeries. And the third, which I would say now to people that are dead set and sold on watching it now to tap out and come back to listen to this later because it is a great decision by the makers of the documentary,

but they decide that they are going to hold back not only who did it, but also the fact that they have extensive, extensive recordings of the perpetrator of the murderers talking exactly why he did it. And let me just say this, if I could just soft tease, it's the most Mormon serial killer you will ever hear in your entire life very polite very well spoken very like very courteous in explaining like you would think that this was just a regular conversation with a nice guy the way that this person is explaining his methodology motivations and step by step actions that he took these horrifying murders yeah yeah and almost killing himself in the process process. Still some question. Yeah. All right. Now, now let's let's talk more about exactly what happens because this was a journey for me. I didn't know anything about it. I presume Scott that your knowledge of this as it went on as a news story was the fascination that indeed one of the

guys blown up in this series of three bombs is indeed the bomber himself. Yeah, nobody saw that coming by the way. That was like a big shock because everyone was like, oh, this poor Mark Kaufman guy. He's just the documents dealer. His poor Toyota MR2 got blown up. I remember specifically the MR2 part because I was in love with that car. I thought that was the coolest like stock sort of race car you could buy from a, you know, Toyota or Honda or whatever. And I loved that car. So when I heard this news that they blew up in the back of his MR2, I remember thinking, no, not an MR2. That's terrible. So I have that just burned to my end. And they have this great sequence of him and his and his second in command just being like the biggest nerds when they get

money and he just buys that car and they're just driving out to the desert and shooting oozy's like yeah it's really something man what great character building yeah it's very good and my favorite dude and the whole thing is that really the guy with the voice that's a little messed up i'm not sure what's wrong with his voice they don't address it but uh he's awesome yeah so he's he's the second in command, but he has this voice that for wrestling fans. He sounds like Ford

Finkel, the old wrestling federation. And he's wearing like, you know, Mr. Penny's worth freaking clothes from like the guy from the Monopoly Board or what's I can't think of his name. Is it Pennyworth? Oh, that's called penny bags. Yeah, but a money bag

of penny bags. Yeah, he looks like him. He dresses like that. He's got, yeah, he's got like the waistcoat with two chains coming off his like center button like it is wow yeah he looks like a Cohen brothers and he is as earnest as you can be about what he's earnest about like he's just he's there he's there to share his side of the story some of those people that were like you know just in it for the document trade super interesting perspectives like it's a very good documentary I don't think I don't like about is the title I just think the title's salacious and dumb which I think they took

sensational. Well, no, it was, it's a quote that ends their initial big montage of like, the outside news coverage covering it. And so it is like, it's a hacky television 80s line that they decided to use as the thing. That's a good point. Like if you're, because you mentioned to me that, that the title bothered you. And I'm like, yeah, but it kind of says everything you need to say that makes that story unique. Because it is. unique because it's a Mormon story. You're right. It's like the, it's like what the, it's like what the Miami Herald would have as their headline when they were reporting it because it did make national news, but that's whatever else would put in their headlines. They would say murder among the Mormons. Salt Lake City, uh, time stamp, but like that's, you're exactly right. Dateline. Yeah. And also, like, there's a reason why, because it's inherently to the mind of the average person kind of contradictory because Mormons have such a genteel representative, uh, of, uh, of, uh, of, reputation around around the world now obviously not politically please i'm not trying to gaslight you tadpool um but but but but certainly in terms of the average uh person if you say oh what do you what do you

know about Mormons they would say oh they're they're polite and they're and they're nice and they really care about their family yeah they're you're you're right like those is like what that is why it's so hilarious that dude who did it this mark hoffman guy because like you said he he's kind of got all of those attributes, at least externally, I can tell you one of the great tenets of Mormonism is not to murder each other. It's like a big, it's a big deal, right? That's a particular passage in the Bible people take very seriously is the don't kill anybody bit. And so him being that weird contradiction of he has the accent, there's kind of an accent to it, you know, it's hard to explain, but there's kind of an accent to some people. He's got that.

He's got the mannerisms. He's got the speech patterns. He's got all of that. Even has the kind of contriateness toward the end of like he's sorry about it. And he's fully confessing what he's done and all of that. But yet, but yet, but yet he seems stone cold about the killings. You know what I mean? Like he just seems like, well, it's course is what I did.

I had to do it. I was going to do it. I was going to do it. And that's it. There's that friendly veneer on top of, of like, a really, really like dead pan sociopathic kind of thing that you, it kind of makes you think, and especially I was joking around before, about the idea of the difference between a, the culture of what we imagine to be, you know, the inner lives of a Mormon community versus how they are looked at by various other

communities, not only in terms of criticism of political outreach or social culture, but also being hated by other religions and being looked at as as you know a satanic cult as as as other religions have referred to them that like the amongst it is that idea of like like yes ma'am no ma'am like i'm just trying to get home to my wife and my kids and that guy has it we almost wonder how much of all of this how much of all of life how much of communities and reputations are just kind of a Assad, right? How much is real? What is real? What makes

it real? Is the idea that you're walking forward and doing these deeds the way that you see fit? Is that what makes it real? Is it a critical mass of people doing that that creates a reputation? And what do we do when there is somebody that is obviously just a

shattered broken human being who goes so quickly to something so horrific? Yeah, he's got this also, this really, this is a complete side note, but he has this one unique attribute, which is Mark Hoffman looks like entirely different human beings in every photo that's ever been taken of him. And this is a thing we talked about back then. And it's even more apparent at the end of that documentary because they show a bunch of, during the credits, they show him then while in prison and then some other shots and then today.

So he's still in there serving time today. He's not recognizable as any of the of the other photos in any of them. Like he just looks like a different human being across the board. And I find that so odd for some reason. Everybody at least looks like this. We were talking about Hinkley yesterday who shot Reagan. Reagan. He's, you know, in the psychiatric hospital where he's been the whole time, now has a YouTube channel and sings covers of 60s and 70s songs. He looks like Hinkley. He looks like John Hinkley. Yeah. Like he didn't, you know, he's older, sure. But you can see that it's John Hinkley. This dude, Mark Hoffman, never looks the same. name. But the story is never, there's never a part of this that's about him pretending to be

somebody he's not or not being recognized. That's not his MO. He's just Mark Hoffman when he's Mark Hoffman. But for some reason, he's this man of a million faces and nobody can figure it out. It's just, so that's, there's a little bit of weird lore with that, not like, I don't mean something supernatural. I just mean he's known for like that weirdness. And then my other other favorite thing about him is when I'm 16 or 17, I'm in what's called seminary. It's basically an hour of your school day. They do this at Catholic schools. You're in like a religious class for part of the day.

We call it seminary. Yeah, you're just learning about the faith. Yeah, you got church stuff going on. And so, you know, we usually skipped. We usually would be at the mall at the arcade. But this, anyway, we had this class. And in there, I had a teacher, and he was not only the spitting image of Mark Hoffman in every way. Oh, no.

But he also had a broken leg and was always in crutches. and that Hoffman dude was always in crutches because he blew his own legs up when he was in when his bomb went off so there was this whole period of time where I had this teacher who looked exactly like Mark Hoffman and to the point that he would play it up on the Halloween and stuff and go around as Mark Hoffman oh god really I know it's the weirdest freaking thing man like that it was such a local such a such an insular event in so many ways but it's just in his dress today oh look at you does that bet yeah I didn't realize that I didn't have my thing on because you guys called a little early. I just figured you were pantsless and shirtless. No, I've been sitting here on set like a good boy. I'll... Yeah, you know, you look great.

But anyway, yeah, it's just an odd thing top to bottom. And I'm really glad that you, A, watched it, B, liked it, and C are recommending it because I think it's one of the best Netflix, you know, these Netflix documentaries that we've been flooded with over the years. I think this is the best one. I really like it, like a lot.

There's just always one episode of these documentaries that tends to just follow a really stupid thing that you know from the first moment they're just going to spin their wheels and like like but what if it was the babysitter's brother and then they go into it and you're like but it's not it's definitely not and then they like at the end it's like we determined that the babysitter's brother was not a suspect and then it's like why did we waste time like that could have been five seconds we looked into the babysitter's brother not him move on like that's Let's keep going to the thing.

And what I loved about this one is that every element of it, first episode focuses on this legitimately fascinating element of the Mormon religion, that it is so young that you could find contemporary documents that were written with modern ink that would stay around forever. And you're not trying to find some tablet or a miraculously kept a piece of parchment or something. Yeah. And there's also, by the way, there's also a feeling generally during that time, and I think I even felt this thing of like, man, I could find my grandma's

desk in her basement that's been collecting dust for 50 years. I could open that and probably find some civil war diary or I could find some, you know, you felt like you had, you had, you was in reach to be able to dip that far back into this time area, the 1800s, because you could. It's not like it was a trillion years ago. It's not like you said. It's not like Dead Sea Scrolls where you got to wait 4,000 years to find anything like it was it was you're right it's around yeah and and that's why this guy's con this guy's forgery was amazing because you know he gets this cache doing it and then you know realizes that like he's making these forgeries that are built to fool all of the the the tools that you would use to

detect a forgery. And so it passes Cyclotron. It goes to the FBI, and it is legitimized by the FBI, and there's one dude who figures out the one tell that nobody else caught, and that's the only thing that starts to unravel

everything about whether or not he did it. Although there was one thing that did kind of get me For somebody that was as careful as he was, and let's take it at him at his word that he was trying to commit suicide

when he set off the bomb in his own car, he sure did leave all of his documents and stuff in his house. For somebody that is like as obsessively careful about everything, like I don't know whether or not this is like in that moment of weakness and madness that he decides to do it, but it's like, you know, if you're planning on killing yourself,

You don't want to shred those, homie? You don't want to, you don't want to post those in some unmarked warehouse? Yeah, we had shredders in 84. I don't know what he was thinking about that stuff. But yeah, he's a really interesting egg. I mean, the, the, the, the, one of my favorite parts of the documentary, it's sort of side, well, not really side, it's part of the investigation, but that kind of hard-boiled cop who loves to drink and party all the time, like is a fish out of water in this city yet?

He's working for the Salt Lake City Police Police to department in a detective position is in charge of that case. I found his case works super fascinating. And none of that we didn't. I didn't know about any of that stuff growing up. I didn't know by the investigation. I didn't know about penny bags and his waistcoat and his two chains. Didn't know about him.

Like a lot of this stuff is new. So it was this really great combination of weird nostalgia for a weird moment in time in my life connected with a bunch of stuff I didn't know. It was great. you know the the the the the the documentarians make a very deliberate choice for i think people who had no idea about any of this going in at that first episode there's a lot of kind of like suspicious music stingers and uh ominous archive clips of like people in the lDS because you don't know is this the lDS trying to suppress things are the murders that we're about to hear about

is this like something you don't hear anybody from the LDS in contemporary times speak as a part of the modern documentary sources or whatever and so you kind of initially deal with that and then by the end of it you're like oh the LDS was like a legit victim here like there was this is a malicious person that was actively attempting to erode the faith he was brought up in and also. make a ton of money, you know, or at the very least, at the most charitable, he was looking to make a lot of money on the back of eroding the faith and community that he had been brought up in. Well, and also just imagine the power you would feel as that forger guy. He has convinced the FBI, local authorities, all testing procedures that exist for historical documentation verification and potentially the hierarchy of the very faith that he grew up in, took part in, and now he's maybe got them fooled, they're supposed to know. They, they, you know, in theory, you don't walk into the Pope and surprise the Pope as an

example. That's not that different than here. You're not supposed to walk into the first presidency of the Mormon church and say, we have this document we think is real and it's about this list. Turns out Joseph Smith was a sentient elk. Right. And then have them go like, what? And they're real?

And they're like, yep, look, here is hoof prints. And my guess is they probably were like, well, that doesn't sound right. But I guess all these tests are coming back. We probably ought to buy that document. I don't know when we're going to do it. Like that probably gave that dude such a charge to have that level of like, it's like anybody. You get a charge out of fooling people with magic. you know, I don't want to

say it's the same. It's not. But that charge you get out of out of an illusion to somebody and they buy it completely, if you're on the street and do you street magic and they go, holy shit, do he just really eat that quarter? Like that feeling is addictive. And I'm guessing this guy had the biggest

charge out of like fooling everybody right up to the top until I got out of him. I do not speak to this because I did not grow up in a particularly strict household, nor that I grew up in a religious one. But I would imagine that if you grow up in a very strict religious house that there are elements of authority that are kind of universal of like, you know, screw you dad or screw you mom that you feel as you are growing

up and you are understanding what authority is and you're understanding what reality is and you are pushing against those boundaries that then also extends to this larger power structure that both figuratively and literally bestows your parents with power and status amongst the community and your friends and school and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you get by the end of this, the idea that this monster

of a human this tremendous toll on his community through the blood of people that he worked with and knew in part because, or, and even the document forging initially, came from this idea of

FU Dad. And FU Dad also meant F you to the church and F you to the church also meant, well, I believe that they have held back and lied about their history before. So who cares if maybe there's new things that they're holding back and lying about. Yeah, for sure. It's quite a tale. And I think there's a lot to get out of it. It's easy to see the title is a little salacious. But if you get into it, you'll get really good documentary work. That's why I liked it, I think, the most. Like as much as I have this connection to it. What I like the most is it wasn't just sensational.

I can't tell you how much I watched the first two episodes. And then I looked to, I looked into the Netflix thing to see how many episodes it was, expecting it to be seven. And I was like, it was three. And I'm like, I'm at the finale. Yeah, you're there. Yeah. Yeah. More of those. More of those. Like I actually feel like it's almost the perfect time because sometimes an hour, an hour and a half isn't enough for a big, a big story. and seven to eight episodes is too many. So find this middle space. We live in the streaming era.

Who cares if it's three episodes. Who are perfectly full with this story at the end of it? Yeah, I was satisfied. There's not a moment. Like you might want to reach over and get more of something that you ate earlier and you're like, nah, I had enough. I had enough of the friends. I had enough of the wife. I had enough of the crazy.

I'm walking here, New York cop that happens to be in Salt Lake City. I've had enough of the document stuff. I've had enough of the LDS. I've had enough of the murderer. I've had enough of the current in the past. I'm good. Ready to walk. Yeah, for sure.

The only thing I would say, if I can find his name, because I always forget his name. Crap. I mean, there's a guy in this called George Throckmorton. He's the forensic guy, the FBI that figures it out. What a great name. I can't find his name, but there was a local news dude. There he is. Rod Decker.

So he's a former Utah, Channel 2, I think, was the, was the affiliate he was on. And he was like this hard. He was our local hard hitting dude who would go out. and really get in people's faces and everyone loved Rod Decker. Well, he's in this thing because he was then covering it and was a big part of it. I can't tell you what, I don't know what catharsis I got out of seeing Rod Decker being a part of the ultimate explanation of this thing he was investigating all those years ago. Like there was a real coming full circle Broaddecker moment for me. And he annoyed me in my teens because he was an adult and he seemed like he was professional and I was sort of a nerd and didn't care about this stuff.

but there's i just want to hug rod decker now and go dude you did the good hard work and here you are now talking about it well done freaking former channel two reporter rod decker yeah uh yeah he's great and and just that peak part of the secret weapon of the documentary is that they always at any moment just get to go back to 80s salt lake city local news which is is its own treat between the hairstyles and the accents and the earnestness. And that dude comes in singing, I presume the Utah State song. I don't know.

I don't remember. I don't remember. He's just earnestly singing this song like by himself, like out in this remote like a location. And it's just, it's so earnest and endearing. Every, every moment. Every shoulder pad,

every teased out strand. television news hair it was amazing teased out the television news hair should be today's title someone submit that the title uh all right well i've really enjoyed this discussion and look chat room you know they can't say anything about anything in there they're good everyone enjoyed it no they figured it out i'm i'm i'm the tadpull's favorite

i'm doing i'm doing the best at this and everybody loves me universal i'm the first tms guest have a hundred percent approval which is 100% approval ran it yeah well done um anything going on in your world that now those people that are proved so much want to hop over and make sure they check out no I don't need to plan I think I think I think I know I think I know when when I'm not wanting with an audience so I'll see you guys next week well no problem and by the way there's one last look at that dude in our in our chat he's the guy with the penny's penny worth clothes Brian you might enjoy the nice look at that guy oh yeah oh he totally is he's like

sir john gilgood mixed with uh alfred hitchcock in a dose of uh rich uncle penny bands and he's weird here's this the jury will now retire just have a fantastic week oh shit he told me he was done so i cut it out because i already had the button up can you get it back i can but hold on i don't know if he wants to they'll be great if that was on purpose it might have been it might have been well i'll text them and find out while we listen to this mashup yes that's right we got a bonus mashup this week oh i love this one yeah ms origins where did

puma pumba come from you're about to find out enjoy lion king spin-off taps rob low as simba a spin-off a spin-off is what they're calling it so here's your here's your cast rob low gabriel union james old jones max charles arcticish Schaefer, great name. Atticus, rather. Atticus. It's a spinoff of the beloved animated film The Lion King. At least six characters from the 1994 film will appear. Low will voice Simba of opposite Unions Nala,

while James Earl Jones and Ernie Sabella will reprise their roles from the movie as Mufasa and Pumba. Because Jonathan Taylor Thomas is really hard to get a hold of these days. Yeah, he's kind of... This busy schedule. Yeah. Was that who that was? I guess it was, wasn't it? I knew was the voice of Simba. I want to say you're right. Let's see. Rafiki and Timoan,

paid by Carrie Payton and Kevin Shone. But that's not who plays. played Timon. Timon was a producer's guy. It was Yeah, what's his name? Birdcage. Yes, right. Danny Chicken, Cherokee. Chicken crap money. Jerry

Vaughn Flattery. I don't know. I can't remember his name. I'm just going to have fun and just let you let you go with that. I think some of Nathan Lane, geez. Nathan Lane. Nothing like that. I can't remember who was Pumba. But Pumba's not coming back, so. No Pumba. Rafiki though, was played by

Bumba die and I forgot. Pumba was played by Benson. No, no, no. Benson was the bird. No, not the bird. The bird was... Robert Guillaume was the... Was the monkey. Oh, I'm sure, was the monkey, yeah, but not Pumba. Yeah, but Rafiki is the monkey, isn't it? Rafiki is the monkey. Pumba is the... The warthog. Right. What I'm saying is that Rufiki is being played by somebody named

Carrie Peyton, who is not Benson. I'm still hung up on Pumba. What happened to Pumba? Pumba is gone. They ate him. I don't know. Maybe Pumba died. Did you know that Ferris Bueller played Pumba when he was an adult? Adult Pumba? Did you know that? You mean adult Simba? That's what I meant. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, maybe it's... How many people are just giving up and switched off their... It's really bad. That's really bad. I saw where the goof happened, though.

It was me. Yeah. We said right at the beginning, well, also we said right at the beginning that Pumba was coming back, that Pumba, you know, the James Earl Jones and so-and-so reprising their voices as Mufasa and Pumba. Right. But then I, yes, so we answer the question right away. So we first, like, completely missed the fact that you said Pumba's coming back. Yes.

At the very beginning. And then later I said, well, Benson plays Pumba and I meant Rafiki. But then I said, no, Rafiki, the monkey, as if I didn't ever say Pumba, which I did, which you were correcting me on. Like, it just splattered. It was like a freaking blast of a shotgun after that. It was all bad. which is like the you basically are watching the train like and then it goes completely off the rails yeah it's that's something else love

love that clip if anyone was wondering in a like boiled down to its barest essence yep and it's uh we want to thank tms mashups jamie for mining this fantastic content uh tomorrow we'll play another one it's uh part three of my time in resident evil and uh apparently it's his favorite he thinks it's his favorite we've ever done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, you know, probably some of that, probably.

Yeah, some of that. Probably. Anyway, well, well done. Let's, uh, let's now be done with the show. We're, we're out of here. Tomorrow will be Wednesday, which is all the usual fun. So come back for that, please. And, uh, watch as, watch as Scott, Nicole and Brian all bring the same thing to

recommendal. That's right. It may happen. I'm, I'm so not sure. It definitely won't happen with me. I know what you guys are recommendaling or what either of you could. And I'm staying away. I got something else.

I'm planning on it. I don't know what she's doing. I may want to text her and just say, what are you planning it? You know, just to make sure we know. Do a rock paper or scissors thing and one of you guys gets it. Yeah.

Because the funny thing is, I'm not as far as you are anyway. And she's probably done. How can you recommend something when you're two episodes? I know. One fourth of the way in. My plan was to be done with it by now, but I've had no time.

And so now that I'm not, it's like, should I even recommend? I mean, I already love it is the problem, so am I... It is so good. I'm half recommending it. I don't know. I really like it.

Anyway, it doesn't stick the landing. What the jury want to say? Cecil Hotel. Yeah, that Cecil Hotel. Speaking of over-drawn Netflix docu-series. Oh, that bummed me out. It could have been so much better.

Yeah. Well, whatever. All right, let's get out of here. Do you have music we can play here at the end of the show? I guess. Well, let's do it then. Ryan wrote in and said, I'm entering the year that I become the answer to everything.

You guessed it, 42. Could you play either a new beginning by Wolfie's Just Fine, or The Longest Time, Billy Joel cover by Anne Reburn? Well, yes, Ryan, I can play one of those. And I'm going to pick the second one because it's a cover, and that's what we do here at the end of the show, is we play a cover. This is a cover of The Longest Time by Anne Reborn.

You know, that's that Duop song that Billy Joel did. And it's one of my least favorite Billy Joel songs. Yeah, me too. But I really like this cover by Anne Reborn. It's all her. You know, she doesn't have a little duop band behind her. But I like this a lot. From her album, oh, I'm sorry, from a single that she released in 2018,

here's Anne Reborn and The Longest Time. And here's, this is for our listener. Happy birthday to you. All right, well done. Here it is. Happy birthday. We'll see you tomorrow right here on TMS. Whoa, oh, oh, the longest for the longest time.

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I forgot how nice romance. I haven't been there for the longest time. I had a second thoughts at the start. I said to myself, wowed on to your heart, now I know the person that you are, you're wonderful so far, and it's more than I hoped for, I don't care, I don't care what consequence it brings, I have been a fool for, I have been a fool for less of things. Aren't you so bad? I think you ought to know that I intend to hold you for the longest time. Whoa. For the longest, for the longest time.

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