The Morning Stream - TMS 2131: Pork Taint Burrito

Episode Date: June 16, 2021

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It's no Hamilton, but it's a Lincoln and a couple of Washington's. Claire Geek. I don't like TV themes. One more thing Batman won't do. Trauma is the magnet you put on the fridge. It's the casual troll. Mighty fat guy. Jerky in the dark.

Son of a goat. Brian goes, shoo! Tom has been freed. Recommendals and more. On this episode of the morning stream. If a person consistently reads and advocates the views expressed in a communist publication, he may be a communist. I'm going to have chips and salsa tonight.

The morning stream. Went there. Hey, everybody, welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for Wednesday, June 16th. Yeah, 16th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi, Scott.

How are you? I'm fine. It's our final, I'm a little sad because it's our final broadcast day of the week. because you're going out of town for a bit. It is. A little bit of a family reunion and all that business. It would be interesting to do a TMS from the rental house that we're getting. Yeah.

Get the whole family and you could see all the chuckleheads on that side of the family. Your side or your wife's side? I can't remember. My side, my mother's side of the family. Okay. And okay, so that's interesting. Are there any, like, doppler, her brother? Got any doppelganger type?

Anyone that looks like you? No, no, not at all. Like this is, this is really technically, it's like my uncle's side of the family. It's his wife and then all of his kids, all these kids. Kids. His kids. Yeah, he's got to reach these kids somehow. That's right.

You've got to reach these kids. I don't know. What does that sound like when you do that? That doesn't sound right. Yeah, I don't know. It's like I'm pulling. in a Danny Treo or something. Yes, that's what I'm hearing.

He's kids. That's it. That's the voice. I wouldn't kill him with the machete. That was the voice. Well, anyway, well, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah, so Brian will be doing that.

We'll probably have some stories on Monday and, you know, or maybe not. Maybe it'll be totally boring and no stories on. Oh, no, I hope there will be. There is no way that we could have all of these family members in one place. And listen, I love every single one of them, right? but they are like refrigerators and drama is the magnets that you put on those refrigerators they attract drama like nobody's business so I thought about making bingo cards just for just for this weekend for me and Tina and I thought well I can make him for the family

and then we realized no there's some family members who are maybe a little bit more sensitive and might take offense at that so I decided yeah let's not make bingo cards So let me ask you this. We haven't been our heads. If you had to compare, who's the more dramatic, controversial side of the family as a Tina's side or when you go do stuff with your side? Oh, geez. It's a toss-up around here is what I'm saying. But how about you?

You know what? It's, no, I would say it's my side and that side of the family. Because really, the drama that comes from Tina's side of the family centers on one person. Right. and his little tentacles and his Oh yeah We've heard about that before Yes, we've heard about that, yes

Yeah, well okay My dad's side, my dad's side zero Uh, zero, 0.01 drama. Okay. I mean, there's always a little measurable drama everywhere, but it sounds like you've got less there and that's good. That's nothing over that. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

It's not, and certainly not a horrible drama. Like it's going to be, it's kind of fun drama. I mean, there's, you know, there's probably, who knows, there might be some grudges that come out. I got some, I get some, I get some, well, it's mostly on Kim's side, but we got a little racism in some parts of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. A little bit of, you know, stuck in their ways sort of drama,

a little bit of everyone else is doing it wrong kind of drama. Yeah. But we're not having a big, like, huge thing within this year. It's just on my side this year. So we're just going to do like a thing in July where it's, like, you know, my mom and my brother is coming up in Phoenix and got a few anti-vaxxers in there. But other than that, it's not too much drama. It'll be okay. It'll be fine. So, wish us all luck, you guys. Families. Family's hard. That's what I'm saying.

Family is hard. Yeah. But that'll be good. And you'll be back Monday. So don't worry, everybody. It's a couple days off. No big deal. I'll, I think I'm going to stream some games in the morning tomorrow. So there you go. Come watch that. I had a big milestone yesterday. And that's why I think I feel comfortable doing that tomorrow because I have been slammed the last two weeks with on top of it we added E3 which I don't know I did that to myself but um well you have to do that every year yeah could have just avoided it though I suppose but anyway I we hit our production our pre-production goal for rock runners was June 15th that was our like kind of hard in the sand like we want everything to be ready for production like sent to printers off for proofs you know

Whatever that means, like me done with all art, writing, corrections, instructions, manual, all of it. Box art had to be done by yesterday. Or by today, actually. And I did it yesterday. So we beat it by a day. Wow. Pretty good. Like beat the deadline by a day.

I don't even know what that's like, actually. Completing something before a deadline. Yeah. It felt really good. I have to admit. I've heard of this in like children's books. and fantasy land and stuff like that. It's pretty rare, even around here.

But I did that and it is, it feels good. But at the same time, now I'm like, I'm nervous because I've got to wait for this. So I get a final proof of the full deck box rules, parts, pieces, everything comes here on Friday. And I got to like go through that with the finest tooth comb ever invented. Sure. And then if there's any issue. I'm stressed about any issues I miss. Like, is there a card with double text on it?

Did I leave a period in a weird place? Like, I've had multiple people do edit run-throughs on the thing, not just me. So, you know, just covering all my bases. And one of them isn't like a professional editor and I had her do it. And so I feel confident, but now it's like go time. We got to, the money's going to get spent on production. It better be right or else we're screwed. Like, we can't F this up.

And so I'm a little, a little nervous about all this. You know, it'll come out all right. This is the exciting part, right? Because it's the moment that you turn your art over, give it to the printers, and just wait and watch as your dream becomes a reality, as your hard work becomes a physical, tangible, playable game. And what I hope is that what doesn't become a reality is some typo I totally missed. Yeah, anyone who knows you? Like would expect it. It would basically be disappointed if there wasn't one.

That's true. I mean, I had a pro editor. As long as you spelled rock and runners. Yeah. The rest is okay. All right. Maybe there is some leeway there.

But I went through lots of expense to make that not happen. So hopefully everything goes well. And yeah, if you're out there and you supported that project, should be shipping. Again, as planned, our plan is to ship in July, which means some people may get it in July. Some may get it in August, but it'll happen.

It's all on time. Everything's on time. Name a Kickstarter that's been on time that you can name. Name one. You can't. I was actually, this video was just going to say, I'm heading over to Kickstarter right now to comment in the feedback section. How come this isn't out yet?

How come I don't have this? Scam. I want my money back. Why isn't this on my table right now? I'll tell you why, because it ain't done yet there, buddy. Yeah. Anyway, so because of that, things have just been nuts. I did get, I managed to get a new comic up yesterday, and I wanted to share this because

I feel like my dad joke is on par here, or on point. This one's good. It's very funny. Yes. I like it a lot. I like it as well. Let me pull it up here so people can see it. Fred walking around with Ken and his backpack is that's how they, that's how they travel.

That's how they travel. Sure. Fred says, you know, the pandemic has gone on way too long at this point. Can says, why do you say that? And Fred in the next panel says, the latest edition of the Bible changed immaculate conception to contactless delivery and then and then can says please throw me in the river and pretend we never met because you know he's annoyed by this horrible joke but i really like this joke i'm proud of this one that middle one that middle bit i mean come on now not bad great yeah no that's

it's uh it's uh it's uh it's very fun actually i lolled scott did you did you did you lulled i lulled all right i didn't ruffle but i lulled can't uh chat says there's always says can has no sense of humor Oh, he does. He just knows good comedy and he knows bad comedy. And he knows when Fred is dealing in the bad. So that's what that is. Anyway, so I got that done and that was nice. And then later I'll tell you about my jerky in the dark.

That'll happen in the news segment. Oh, oh, maybe you don't need to go, I don't know, that deep in the information. You can learn a little something new about me today with the jerky in the dark story. Also, just a quick note about weather and heat in the west, southwest western states like you and I we're in a bit of a heat thing yesterday we hit 107 which is the highest Utah has ever experienced in any month in history or no we tied that's what it was we tied for the hottest time it's ever been and that and the and the previous record was a July date it's like 1968 or something long time ago and this

equaled it so we're currently tied for our for our hottest day of any month ever so we'll see if today breaks that. But I keep telling people this and they see it on the news and I've heard even Canadians are like, dude, well, you're freaking, they're talking about Utah, my local Canadian news station up here. What's going on down there? Yeah, we're having a drought. We're having a heat wave. Colorado's experiencing it.

Certainly Arizona and Nevada. Really, the whole Southwest is getting hit pretty hard by this. Yeah. And it's bad for lots of reasons, but, you know, one of them has increased fire risk and you know, we're also about to have the 4th of July and idiots are going to set fires to shit and it's going to

be bad. So there's all that. But I wanted to make a distinction here. We're not, I'm not dying in this. In fact, I really like it. I know.

You love the heat. I love the heat. I love the heat. It's great. You know what it is though? It's a dry heat. I like the dry heat. And I was telling Marl Prime on Twitter yesterday,

our jerky dealer. He's our jerky dealer. He gives us the sweet behind the scenes go up to the curb and give us some jerky. Yeah, he's great. I was telling him that if some. If you live in a humid climate and you hear 104, you think that you would die because that sounds horrible, because you're used to humidity coming with your heat. So if you have 80 degrees Fahrenheit and then add 60% humidity, that's miserable. That feels like an awful sort of combination of heat and whatever.

But we don't have humidity here at all. Well, we have a little. There's some measurable amount, but it's like, what, 6% or some ridiculous thing? It's something that is almost imperceptible. Right. And so what you end up with is just more like an oven type heat. And it's not sweaty and wet. It's not humid. So you can go out in it. And if you're in the shade, it's downright nice or it can be. So I mean, I'm not saying it's just for everyone. I don't like it. And you're not going to make me like it. I had to go out this morning at 645 for my bike ride because it's going to be. to be, you know, a hundred or more today. And it's like, I can't ride when it's over.

Well, I can ride it, you know, whatever. But I won't enjoy riding if it's over like 85, 90. Do they have a limit where they'll say, oh, can't do the ride because this is too hot? No, they won't pull us. They've only, the only thing that will pull us off the course is dangerous weather the other direction, like high winds and rain and stuff, yeah. Okay, but what if, okay, but there's a. got to be a limit like if they if it was 127 degrees well okay yeah yeah because i mean they don't want anybody

to die from heat stroke yeah um or your tires melting or a thousand other things right exactly so yes yeah so there is a limit but we're not going to hit that there is a yeah i don't know what that limit is yeah but there probably is an upper limit where they'll say oh yeah people are going to pass out if we uh yeah especially this you know this old guy from arvada he's gonna freaking uh right yeah yeah That's what I'm worried about I mean, come on. I get up some of these hills in like 80 degree heat And I'm like

Sweat just pouring down Or I've got to get my glasses off and stuff Yeah, we produce our own humidity In the dry climates here We do, yes, we are humidity machines ourselves But I, you know, I'm not saying I love, love it I get tired, like in the afternoon I kind of just want to nap in a cool space, right?

Like that's what the heat does to you But overall it's just, you know I guess what I'm saying is we've had We've had plenty of hot summers It's weird to have it in June It'd be nice if the winter was more snowy So we had backup for water and all that But I mean it'll be it'll pass

It's fine Yeah Yeah I got three stinky dogs They all smell like outside Because they're out there panting What are you gonna do? All right Well on that note

Hey want to play a game Let's play a game Let's do it Yeah I've done all this work to prepare for it, so we better play it. I'm going to say, if we just skip this, it'd be a real crime. Oh, it would, especially today.

Yeah, especially today. And we got done away back, which is nice. And things that Batman can't do, won't do. Won't do. Number one, go down anywhere. All right. Dude, yesterday was another flood of stuff. So, like, everybody's finding old comic pages where Batman says something that's slightly

referential to it. It could be, yeah. It could be anything like Killer Croc is in the basement. I'm not going down there or whatever. Stupid stuff like that. Oh, hey, look who it is. It's that guy. I know him.

He and I had a very successful good time yesterday on the Boop Show and he's back again. Mr. Brian Dunaway, welcome back. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. I am back. I'm back. I missed you guys on Monday. I was sorry I was doing under the weather. I went on vacation or.

the weekend and my immune system was in overdrive around all the people and my body was this exhausted. Yeah. It said I'm done. I feel for you. I do. Yeah. But you're better now? You're better. You're feeling okay today? Yeah, you're good now. After two days of rest and sleep, I feel much better. That's good. That makes me happy

to hear because I know you were feeling kind of down there and, you know, speaking of heat and humidity, I know where you live. Oof. Those who don't know who listen to the show is I have an autoimmune disease called psoriasis and whenever I get around large groups of people, my immune system goes off the charts and is exhausting. Yeah. It's exhausting. I feel you.

I feel you. But we're here to protect your fall when you land. That's right. Yeah, that's what we do. But we also play games. And on the line, we have a listener who's going to participate with us today. Thanks for holding. Who's this?

Hi, this is Casey. Well, hello, Casey. How are you? I am wonderful. you. Oh, doing great. It's good to have you here. Is this a Casey like at bat or like, and the sunshine band? The sunshine band.

Okay. Oh, all right. That was so quick with the answer. That's great. Good. Well, where are you from, Casey? Yeah, Casey, where do you hail from? Oh, we missed it. Casey. Sorry, Casey, you cut out. Oh, sorry.

Oh, sorry. Where are you from? I was just saying I have lots of people call me Casey and the Sunshine Band. Oh, really? That's awesome. Nice. There are a lot worse nicknames, trust me. If you're name's Scott and Ryan, all sorts of dumb stuff. Well, you know, that's the way we like it.

Hey, where do you live? Uh-huh, uh-huh. I am actually from Kansas where it is miserably hot. Oh, that's cool. I saw a post on, um, where was it? Facebook saying that Kentucky was the, it was a piece of trivia that said Kentucky is the only state in the union with a K at the beginning. And I went, well.

I told you posted that on Twitter and I laughed so hard. too. And I'm starting to think here's, I'm glad Casey's here for this. I'm going to tell you guys a little thing I think. I'm pretty sure nobody is serious about anything anymore. Because I really do think that someone put that up there to get a reaction. Not because they really thought Kentucky was the only K word in the 50 states. Not because they messed up and honestly thought it was, but found out later they weren't. Someone did that to get reaction upon reaction upon reaction to the point that somebody like me would eventually posted up on Twitter somebody else put it up on some other thing and before you know it it's everywhere and mission accomplished the troll wins don't you guys agree that's what happened that's exactly what happened

it's the casual it's the casual troll I mean we used to have you know only hardcore trolls but now we have the casual troll it's too easy there's people who troll for a living and then there's people who just troll in their spare time that's a little hobby yeah as as Claire says in the chat in her Irish way

they're taking the piss they're taking the They're taking the pass. All right. Speaking of which, oh, I don't know if I told Claire this. She was excited about this, but the next interview with Christian Nairn is on. We're just picking a time. Oh, very cool.

Very excited. All right. Anyway, sorry, back to the thing. Brian, will you explain how Tad Pooley feud works and what she could win? If I must. Yes, it's time to play the Tad Pooley feud. I've surveyed the Tad Poole on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of these answers they can guess.

Casey, your job is more important than ever because you're actually going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package that includes Dead in Bermuda and Stick Fight the game. Both courtesy of Zaki. Nice. Very nice. Zach. All right. Thanks, Zachie.

Zaki. Yeah. Let's give you guys your topic. Put your hands on your buzzers. I surveyed. 382 Tadpool members and asked them to get their answer to this question. All right. What's the best TV theme song of all time?

How. Scott? Oh, uh, uh, the, cheers. Cheers. Show me. Show me. Cheers. Number one, baby. Oh.

The answer on the board. Make our way. Right. Yeah. Yep. with everything you got or something. Now, going forward, I'm going to ask that you sing the answers you give me. Damn it.

To the best of your ability. Excellent. All right, so since there's no answer that can beat it, Casey, you and Scott will be working as a team. Scott has the control of the board. And we just go forward, yeah? We just keep going. You guys keep going.

Keep going and let's see how you do. Casey, how do you, anything jump to your head right away? I am trying so hard. I'm usually really good with songs, TV songs, but I am not having anything pop to my head right now. That's totally fine. And part of this game is remembering or trying to get into the head of what a tadpuller would say versus like... Yes, exactly.

And so I'm going to just put out there that probably the Futurama theme is on here, if I had to guess. So what do you think about that? You're all right with that? You sign seal and deliver that? That sounds great. All right. Let's do Futurama. Brian.

Sing a little bit for us, Scott? Darn, Daird-d-d-d-d-d-d-darn-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-dard. That's all I got. That's good. That was nice. Thanks for us. Wow.

Futurama was number, definitely on the list. Pretty high up. Futurama was... Gosh, dang it. Oh, wow. I thought it'd be higher. Where is it? Where is...

It's a proper answer. It should be in the top ten. you guys. What are you thinking out there? It's number 48 on the list, surprisingly. Oh, wow. Tide. I never skip it. I never skip that intro because of it. I say tied for 41st.

Because there's a lot of people. It only got two votes, which surprised me. All right, Brian, control goes over to you. Yeah. All right. Well, Scott, when it hasn't been your day, your week, your month, or hell, even your year, you might want to pick the Friends theme song. All right.

Bad Pooley Feud. Show me I'll be there for you Number three on the list there, yes Tadpool disappoints me Why would they disappoint you? I don't like that theme song What's wrong with that theme song?

That one I skip. Actually, we used to get as far as the clap And then we would all do it And then we'd skip the rest. That's how we do. Yeah, actually I watched it Because I'm still doing a rewatch of Friends right now.

I'm in the end of season two and I can't hit that skip button fast enough to just like, yeah, okay, I've heard the song. It's like we get it. They're going to take a bit of footage that seems like someone's moving their hand fast for the clap, and then we're going to have them all bump into each other, and it's going to be a nightmare, so enjoy it. Exactly.

All right. So, Brian, you still have control of the board. Well, I'm going to go with the one that you just couldn't get out of your head because no matter, even if he was only on like a three-hour tour, you just could never get that Gilligan's Island theme song out of your hit. Give me a little song.

He did this to me last time. Oh, is that it? That's all you're just getting... Oh, I got more. No, he meant you're going to sing it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me think I'm thinking of the thing. No, he meant, are you going to sing it?

A faithful trip and, uh... Yeah, the mighty, the mighty, the mighty fat guy and his little Gilligan Bob Denver. Wow. Three hour tour. Yeah, okay. Let's put you in your misery here. Show me Gilligan's Island.

Tour. Oh, really? Oh, that's fun. The Capulet is younger than I thought. It makes me miss the days when the theme song gave you the whole backstory to the show you were about to watch. Right. The mighty fat guy. Oh, that's so good, Brian.

All right. Casey, we are back. You and I are back with a vengeance here. That's right. That's right. Your future armor guest gave me an idea. What about the Simpsons? Yeah, that seems likely.

I mean, if it's not, it's out of spite, so, yeah, I could do it. Yes, you sing that one for us. Simpsons. Show me the Simpsons. Oh, are you kidding me. Number 17 in the list. Again, it should have been higher. And come on, you know, I love me some.

Danny Elfman, but... Give me a break. They had 17 that they liked more than that one. Brian, Donaway, back to you. Well, after they disappointed the Gilligan's Island, I don't know where we're at. That's what I'm thinking.

I'm giving you some... I'm giving you some Sanford and Son. Okay. Because there's no lyrics. There are no lyrics. It's actually the ringtone for Mrs. Crazy Neighbor, by the way, is the Sanford and the Sun.

Shut up. I like her more and more every day. Absolutely. You know that's a Quincy Jones song. It's called The Street Beater. No, I didn't know that. Yes. I didn't know that. That was my wrestling name for a while, but how long has taken you to give me the buzzer? I'm assuming that I didn't get it. Oh, that'll happen right now. There we go, man. Number 16 in the list, people like. People do like the same for something, but not high enough to make them the top 10. Back over to Scott and Casey.

Okay. Maybe we got to get nerdy here. Casey, like, I was thinking Star Trek the next generation or something. Oh, weird. Okay. Why is that weird? It's not weird. It's a theme song. No, no, go ahead.

Say what you're saying. Oh. I mean, other science fiction, I was thinking like that. I was thinking, um, was it, I don't want to give you ideas. That's right. Yeah, I don't want to give you ideas. So let's, how are you feeling? Casey, are I?

with that pick. Is that good? Go for it, Scott. All right. Let's go for it. We say Star Trek. Show me. You're saying the next generation, correct? I'm saying that if Brian thought it was cool to use any Star Trek as in his answer, I'd be fine with that too, but if Brian

Ibitt, who makes the rule, says that it's not specific enough, I'll say next generation. Yep, Star Trek on its own, not specific enough. Star Trek, the next generation, though, is specific enough, and Damn it! Son of a goat.

Are you kidding me? It's way lower than I expected. It is way down at 52. Interesting. I like the Voyager one best, if I'm honest. I really like the Voyager one best.

I feel so, oh my God. How are we missing so many? Yeah, I don't know, but there are eight answers still left on the board. Well, na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-Bat-Man. All right, show me, Batman. Let's just get it over with click.

Oh, my God. All right, that's terrible. So, Brian wins, only because friends had fewer votes than cheers. Wow. All right, show me number two. People in the chat room are totally have got this one. Oh, no, no, no, no. Game of Thrones thing?

Yes, dude, I almost said that. Good, but it's not like it. That was the one where I was going to say. It's either Star Trek or maybe Game of Thrones. I should have said it. Damn it. That's weird. Scott, number four, look down at your shirt.

Okay. Oh, that is even funnier. Are you wearing a shirt that has one of the answers on it? MASH, number four on the list. I did think about MASH. Yeah, that's a great, uh, a great sound. What a perfect day to wear. this shirt. Gosh, right. Exactly. It's funny because when you hopped on Zoom and I saw you

wearing that shirt, I said, well, at least there's one that he's going to get. I guess I tried to get into their heads too much. I should have just been more general today because I got, I was thinking too tadpooly and I got it wrong. All right. Now this is a story. All about how I'm going to reveal number five right now. 90s kids, Brian. 90s kids. Well, that makes sense, but I didn't think I thought okay so i was thinking yeah i was just thinking the greatest average i'm like if you go with the oldest person they would know more theme songs

right right yes yeah it's tricky it's tricky rocker rocker rocker right it's not a theme song it's not a theme song look what's behind number six oh what i can't believe it myself now that was one of my favorites

but i didn't think it would be like a tadful it's a theme song that's so good it was used in two TV shows. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. This one, this one, to me, honestly, feels like it's out of place. I can't believe as many people suggested it as they did.

Oh, by the way, Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Crazed American Hero, because I didn't say them out loud for our podcast listeners. Yeah. Number seven. Night writer. I thought about that, but I was like, who's going to pick that? Did he do, do, do, do, de, d'i, duster rhymes, maybe.

Listen, those guys, they filmed that. here. Utah Connection. I'm just saying they filmed it here. What was I thinking? All right. Keep going. Are they thinking?

Number eight. Doctor Who? Oh. Over T and G. I think the oldest, the oldest theme song on this list, I think, like the one that's been around the longest. Different versions. Scott Stig, the Doctor Who.

Hey. The Tartist. The Tartist. Scott even sang a version of this one that was a meme for quite a while. Number nine. Firefly. Oh, take my thing. How in the

H.E. Double Hockey sticks. That song is so bad. The song, it's actually really bad. It's a bad song, but I love that it exists. It's so much fun to sing. Yeah. And just because this list does need Star Trek, number 10.

I do it. I knew it after I saw stupid Firefly. I'm like, somebody's the picked Enterprise. Hey, you remember when you were talking about, like a sarcastic, casual troll. Yeah, casual troll. That's exactly what that is. Casual trolls, exactly, yeah.

Star Trek Enterprise, the highest ranked Star Trek theme song on this list. Moving down the list, we got A-Team, the Golden Girls, the Sopranos, Airwolf, The Facts of Life, House, Miami Vice, the Muppet Show, the Office, Rockford Files, I'm sorry, I'm still hung up on Airwolf. Why is that on there? I don't know why Air Wolf is great. Is it? Oh, yeah.

I don't remember it all. That's a great theme song. Okay. I don't remember it. The original Star Trek down to 25, Hill Street Blues, Mission Impossible, the X-Men animated series, Twin Peaks, the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Andy Griffith, Barney Miller, Babel Star Galactica. I love Bernie Miller's theme's great.

Yeah, Barney Mill is a great one. Dukes of Hazard, family ties, the Flintstones, Frasier. No Quantum Leap wants to know Dice Tomato. One vote for Quantum Leap, which... It might have been Dice Tomato. Yeah, yeah. It was probably Dice Tomato exactly. No X-Files theme, yeah, some good...

X-Files was on there, but only a handful of votes were... WKRP in Cincinnati. Oh, yeah. A Wi-Fi. O's a good one, too, with the P-square. Y-5-0's, I got a few, yep, got a few votes. But, yeah, a lot of Mike Post in there. A lot of Mike Post songs, you noticed.

Yep, exactly. Golden Girls, yes, was number 11, Shave Maddox. Just outside the window there, yeah. Yep, exactly. So, Brian Dunaway wins, which sadly means, Casey, you don't get these games. How did I win? You won because you got the better points. You won three, because.

Friends was number three on the list versus Cheers, which is number one on the list. Yeah, it's a sliding scale because we all lost kind of today. Today was a loss. Everybody lost. Exactly. But you win out of the losers, you're the biggest winner. So well done. Good job on that.

Casey, it was a rough go, but I appreciate your efforts. And it was fun having you here. That's what really matters, right? You had a good time. And you can try again in a couple weeks. Yeah. We hope you do. Did you have fun?

I did. And I hope next time I get on with the, Babel Royall because I'm going to pick Brian. Oh, are you now? Well, that sounds great. The second time you've lost for me, Scott. Hey, look, I've got a streak. I've got a streak going with Casey,

and we're going to see if we can rectify that next time. We'll see how it goes. I wish you luck in that endeavor, and I hope Brian has a terrible topic that way. All right, Brian. We didn't do a film sack this week, because Brian's going to be out of town, but we did do a watch-along, which will air on the same time.

so you'll get content from the film sack, guys. We watched two Vicks. We did. We watched the Tuvix episode of Voyager speaking to Star Trek. I'd never seen it, or at least I don't remember it. And it's weird. Inspired that great episode of Seinfeld called Cranfeld. Yeah, Cranefeld.

Remember that? Oh, so good, Cranefeld. Oh, also, the Seinfeld song is really annoying, so I'm not surprised, but it was nowhere on your list, was it? Two votes for the Seinfeld theme. Okay. I'm surprised as much a theme as a... B'bittip-Ban-Ban-Ban-Ban-Ban-Ban-Ban-Bam-Ban-Bam-Bam-Bam. and things on all the time in this house.

Anyway, well done. I can't wait for everyone to hear that. It was a lot of fun. And also, like I said, check on that boop show we had yesterday. It was real good. A lot of E3 wrap-up as well as some awesome games we talked about. If you like indies and the indie space in general, you'll love the boop show. Check it out.

Frogpants.com slash boop or wherever you get your podcast. Brian, anything else you want to say before you go? I was going to follow up what Scott said about the boop show to the boob show. But also, if you listen to us on any of your podcasting apps, be sure to leave us a review. it helps us in the rankings yeah it does it does it really does uh so do that wherever you go is spotify is your thing great google play great amazon music you're using them for your podcast wonderful if you use an apple podcast great all that stuff just uh leave us a review and that'd be cool do it for tms as well brian go away all right he's gone uh all right he says uh thanks for having

things for letting me play maybe i should have pulled out a british accent I don't know never hurts to try yeah always always with the British accent if you can help it um okay automatic win if you have some sort of accent i'm sure we would have done much much better all right uh well the thing is she didn't get to choose like that she's forced into using me today because that's true actually yeah but yeah so now she was so when she does babel royale or you know the normal like type where we have another caller in or something she'll get to choose who she wants to choose. And I think she'll make the right decision. I truly do. Time for the news. It's the time for the news. And it's brought to you by.

Brought to you by eating beef jerky and listening to the weekend in the backyard in the dark with the candlestick. So this happened last night. I just want to, I want to recommend this. Okay. So there's that new spatial audio business. Apple's doing. Oh, yeah. Dolby and all that. You just need headphones for it. It's not, there's some cool stuff you can do. You don't even have to have Apple headphones.

No, you can use any brands. It doesn't matter. I'm using Raycons out there in the yard. Yeah. But if you do have those earpod pros things, AirPod pros, you can do, the spatial audio also lets you do like spatial movement stuff. So you could be sitting here.

And you could like lean this way and the guitar that's happening over here will actually get louder and close. closer to you. And then when you move forward, the voice may get closer. I don't know if it does it. It does it when you're watching a show. I don't think it does it when you're listening to music because what would it, what would it center on the wherever your phone is? I think when you start it. So if you're sitting still and you hit play, you're in the center where you would normally be. So if you move from that center. Yeah, which seems weird. I think you can turn that off though. I don't think you have to do it. It seems weird that they'd make it

work for music but uh totally yeah totally when you're watching a movie and you turn your head like the all the sound then comes from those ears the the ears on the uh yeah the side where the it was uh who was it that was telling me someone in the tadpole was like raving about that positional stuff i can't remember who now um i just don't remember who somebody was telling me uh anyway oh claregak here's the thing the dolby the dolby atmos stuff which is what this is all on is not unnecessary tech. It's changed to how I listen to music. It is blowing my mind.

It sounds amazing. But the fact that when you hear a sound and you move you this way, I mean, it's nice, but it doesn't enhance the experience for me at all. Yeah, I don't care about any of that. But the sound itself, like the actual remastering of this stuff in Dolby Atmos, is freaking mind-blowing. Like, it's so sounds. And I don't care what headphones are listening to or what device you're listening to it on.

And this will end up everywhere. all right this will end up on everything with everybody and all the services they're all going to do it because it's that different it's that good it's really neat uh all right where are we news news girls scouts who talked about them for a hot second we did and now we're going to talk about a little bit more the thin mint predicament girl scouts stuck with over 15 million boxes of unsold cookies ah the great victim and we know it's not the thin mints that they're stuck with let's be honest, it's the trefoils and the tagalongs and, yeah. I don't like those.

I know other people like them, but I don't like those Samoa things. Not a fan. Those are the coconut ones? Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah. Those are gross. Yeah, they're okay. Well, it's because I don't like coconut, all right?

I just don't like it. Oh, well, then there you go. I like the flavor of coconut. Do not like the texture of actual shaved coconut. But I could drink coconut milk. I could have a coconut flavored drink or a coconut. that, you know, pinocotta flavored ice cream, whatever. All those things are fine.

What I can't do is your shaved ass-looking bull crap little bits of pieces of coconut. Fair enough. Fair enough. Do you know they have something new called Toastier? No. Tell me more. What the heck is this? It's French toast flavored cookies.

From the Girl Scouts are doing it? From the Girl Scouts. Yeah, I'm putting it in our link in our chat room here. Let's take a look. From their page, their page entitled, Meet the Cookies. Really? Yeah. Okay.

Try a delicious and comforting new toasty cookies available in the second markets. These French toast-flavored Girl Scout cookies will be sure to bring joy with every bite. Is that okay? Like anybody bites a Girl Scout cookie. Is there anybody who doesn't just shove an entire one in their mouth like I do? Oh, you mean like take your time, take just a little nip off? Yeah, yeah, nobody does that. Yeah.

nobody does that nobody does that's what ernie does so that bert won't notice that he took a cookie that's what he does right exactly um well i do like the tag alongs i like the peanut butter patty ones oh those are good i don't like the smores the smores are a little too much too much um i miss the i do miss the um the shortbread ones that they had that had the chocolate on one like it was a shortbread with a chocolate smear on one side what happened to those they quit doing those yeah they quit doing though so they just have the plain old shortbread I mean I like shortbread but that little extra layer of chocolate sounds rad

well normally these guys sell 200 million no I'm sorry hold on how much do they sell in well I get to it Girl Scouts of unusual problem this year 15 million boxes of unsold cookies that's a lot they're the true victim of this pandemic the 109 year old organization

says the coronavirus not thinner demand for its thin mince is the main culprit as the pandemic wore into a it's spring selling season. Many troops nixed their traditional cookie booths for safety reasons. This is unfortunate, but given that this is a

girl-driven program and the majority of the cookies are sold in person, it was to be expected, says Kelly Parsini. Now hold on a minute. That's a weird statement. This is unfortunate. Let me read this again. This is unfortunate, she says. But given that this is a girl-driven program and the majority of the cookies are sold in

person, what does they have to do with being a girl-driven program. Just the fact that it's driven by the girl scouts themselves and not like a major retailer. Oh, she means driven by the girls themselves. Yeah, the gender really isn't the focus as much as it's the, that it's a program that's driven by our members and not by a corporation. And there, and ergo those members, aka those girls are the ones at the booths or the ones at

the doors, the ones knocking, the ones doing the thing and they couldn't do any of that. Couldn't do it. This didn't stop. We saw some Girl Scouts. We took the dogs for a walk back in February or March. And they took a corner of the street, fully masked up, and sold us a few boxes of cookies that way. And, you know, we were masked up. They were masked up.

Worked out just fun. Yeah. We got some too this year. Yeah. Or last year in similar fashion. So apparently not everybody. They screw themselves by doing this as a, oh, you couldn't. only get them for a month and a half.

Yeah, I agree. Come on. I agree. I have them out all year. Put them in the stores or whatever you got to do. Put them out all year or make them, you know, give them, give us easy ways to just order them online year round and we'll do it. Yeah.

Let's see. Troops in her area, this woman that runs all this, says they sold 8500,000 boxes of cookies last year, but then sold under 600,000, which created the shortfall. Gotcha. Let's see. Do it, da, da, da. girls scouts of USA did forecast lower sales in the year due to the pandemic corona so where does this all this money go just activities and stuff for the girl scouts

yeah my girls never got into that so i don't know a tvz gun uh is a girl scout dad and uh probably can speak to like all the stuff that they um that they do and what they use that money for okay it makes sense it's for yeah troop stuff the you know what the boy scouts used to do or still do i guess i don't know if they do. They used to make you go around and ask your neighbors for money. And they didn't give you anything for it. Like, right. At least now they give you

popcorn. Yeah. The popcorn, yeah. Give me a popcorn? Send the Girl Scouts over. It's like, give me something. I haven't had a, I mean, there was never cookies where I live, and Scouts are huge here. They were. Well. So I don't know. Anyway. So they still, they sell popcorn Dice Tomatoes? Yeah. I think we did that either. I think we just

run around going, you know, you really ought to help these kids with the 30 bucks we need. When I was a scout, I had to go around and beg for money. We'll give you a receipt. Yeah. We did. We had to give them a receipt. A little paper receipt and they gave us a check and some of them bounced and it was dumb.

I hated it. Right. All right. They got to be able to figure out something to do with these 15 million boxes of unsold cookies. I don't know. Sell them year round. Put them at girl scouts.com. Put them up there with a Woo Commerce form and I'll buy some.

I agree. Why not? Put them up now. Right now. Put them on Amazon or something. I don't know. Yeah. Push them through the Bezos strainer.

All right. Moving on to this story here about a small Florida town. Florida town. Florida town. They accidentally sold its water tower for 55 grand. Oh, man. Whoops. Oops.

When business owner Bobby Reed approached the Brooksville City Council about purchasing a municipal building at the base of the small Florida City's water tower, he didn't expect that the water tower would come with it. So he didn't even know that he was getting it. Oh, really? The buyer didn't know. That's funny. Yeah, buyer, I guess, beware. No, I don't know what you'd say in this case.

Yeah, I don't know. Does that mean he owns all the water in there too? I think he owns all of it. You get the whole smear, right? Yeah. Whatever's in there, the bodies. But Brooksville is now Bartertown. Yeah, the two hookers that have been in there since 75, he gets those.

Oh, geez. What else? Big bags of cocaine that are at the bottom. I don't know. Uh-huh. What you get down there. It says, Rediscovered the mistake after the property had been sold to him for 55 grand,

certificate or sorry the certified personal trainer intended to turn the building which means he's going to bench press it six times because he's a personal trainer no it doesn't mean that various city departments used to or for storage in a personal training into a personal training studio so his his goal was to make this place called downtown athletics and he was going to convert the building for it but he went to the county property appraisers office to get the address for the new business the county told him he'd received much more than the building several thousand gallons more. Immediately went through the necessary steps to deed the water tower back to the city. He said in letter to NPR. That's nice. Yeah, that was nice. The city's intention was to sell me a

split section of the parcel with the small garage. I mean, he could have been a wiener and just said, well, I own it now. I'm going to put in Gatorade in this thing from my personal training studio. So you come and work out and you get some Gatorade. Yeah, I'm going to start putting some stuff in there. Yep. Storage. It's too. It's too. It's just storage facility i've got uh a bunch of newspapers and uh some books and uh yeah a couple old arcade cabinets they don't work anymore yeah put those in there eight boxes eight boxes eight million boxes of girl scout cookies yeah grandpa's ashes whatever whatever you got to put in there yeah this is how mfmfr started says bomb bats yeah it sounds right uh-huh there's your reference

damn it we brought it up didn't we they caused it themselves this time though like they you know they want it they want that number to reset to zero. Yeah, they were, they were, you guys fished. You guys fished. Yes, exactly. Casual trolls, casual trolls. Although I guess I did say bartertown. So maybe I kind of caused it myself. Well, it's not necessarily Fury Road reference though. So I think you're okay. It could have turned into one. We could have gone from there and then, you know, mentioned something in the Fury Road world, but we didn't. So I don't blame you. It's them. It's all them. It's their fault. It's on them. All right. Let's move on to this story here. This, uh,

where is it? Oh, here it is. This is pretty good. An Olympic runner has been banned. Banned. From running in competitions. After a positive steroid test, she blames a pork burrito. Oh, yep, it's them Chipotle steroids. Yeah, I'll get you every time. Shelby Hulian, the American... Hulahan. Hulahan. I'm wearing a mask shirt. Come on, MASH T-shirt guy. I know. I'm wearing a Mashed shirt, and I can't even say Hulahan. It's embarrassing. Hulahan, she's an American record holder for the 1,500,000 meters. She posted on social media that she'd been banned for four years following a positive test of what she concluded was a tainted pork burrito. Yeah, sure.

Her announcement on her Instagram on Monday arrives days before the start of the U.S. Olympic track and field trials in Eugene, Oregon, where the top three in each event, we'll find a spot in the postponed to Tokyo Games. She finished 11th in the 2006 Rio de Janeiro Olympics in the 5th. thousand meters. So we know this girl. She's one previous, she's meddled before.

All right. She got, let's see. I'm just skipping past seconds. Who cares? Anyway, they found an anabellic steroid called Nandrolone. Nandrolone. She says she since learned it has long been understood by Wata, the World Anti-Doping Agency.

E. Anakin. No, that's not the wrong guy. Right? It's not the guy. What's his name, Waddo? Wado. This name is Waddo, yeah.

You want to win your freedom or mannequin? Freaking ain't that guy. Hand me that pepperoni over there. She says that they told her that eating pork can lead to false positives for this drug. Since certain types of pigs produce it naturally in high amounts. Pig organ meat, or awful, awful, has the highest levels of nanderloan. known in animal products. She made a list of the food she ate up till December 15th and the test that produced

the adverse analytical finding for the antibiotic steroid. We concluded the most likely explanation was a burrito purchased and consumed appropriately, approximately rather, 10 hours before the drug test from an authentic Mexican food truck that serves pig awful near my house in Beaverton, Oregon. I notified the AIU and believe this is the source. So maybe she'll get it lifted. maybe she can prove it seems ridiculous on the face of it but it actually also seems like she's doing her her work here so i don't know enough about it you know i don't either it's it's a bummer

uh if she if she isn't doing any storage this is a sucky thing to take you out of the running you know oh that would blow right because what would you do you can't even fight it what are you gonna say she have to live with what is the way you do like do you go to that do you go get a sample of the of another pork burrito from that uh food truck and just say, here, test this, see what you find in there. Probably. Yeah. Like straight up, probably do.

I don't know what else you could do. Oh, I don't know what else you do, yeah. Well, be careful what burritos you eat and sit back and relax while we take a break. And Brian plays a song. When we come back, we'll have Tom. He's back. He's back in town. And we'll hear from him in the world of tech and spend some time with Nicole for today's

recommendals. So stick around for all of that after Brian's song here. I'll bet he's rested and ready. Hey, this one comes to us, thanks to Grandstand Media and Warner Records. These guys moved to the UK from Australia, a band called Gang of Youths, or Youths. Gang of Youths. This is, they've redefined their creative process and changed their sound as they kind of look to expand their musical offerings. This is the first song that actually comes out of that change of style for them.

and it's called The Angel of Eighth Avenue. It is, let's see, their last album was the 2017 album Go Farther in Lightness. So this is just a single. It's not in advance of any album, but this is a great new single. Here are Gang of Youths and The Angel of Eighth Avenue. Thank you. So, you know,

So we got straight to the heart And I was a coward and worse to my shame I fell hard upon the layless wheels But wasted every day Until you were merged in the pot Like some patron of Washington Square For the first time, in a long time Inside everything still clear

So I had to find me a job But I didn't think I would hold the same one down it gives the same old snake and feeling of fucking hands in my bans but you are good to me still and when my old man was near the end

your love this broken blood the same way that I did I won't let me down and be a lover of a year in this strange town a strange hemisphere God him was stayed in the art

According to my sorrow by name And a tired of tender mercy So my body from the grave And in the festival years Of all makeshift parade In the potential fall In a miserable rain I want to see this one out

And I want to join the impossible swing And fall hard beside you screaming And the bowels of everything And I knew it's linked in the world You'd change in the dream And what's more the goddamn greatest thing The lady ever made I want to lay me down

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Well, that actually is a very good point. Yeah. Yeah. That's a... Food truck, sure. Uh-huh. Oh, I love a good food truck, but I don't want steroids. Authentic Mexican food truck, huh? Oh, wow.

That's an oldie but a goodie right there. That's what you shared with us. All right. Tom Meriden coming. I talked to him yesterday. He is all good in the hood for today's discussion. and we'll see how he's doing. We missed him terribly last week.

Yeah, we did. There's always time to catch up. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt, who returns to us from beautiful Hawaii to regular old L.A. And is back with us this week. It's good to have you back, Tom. How was your trip? It was great.

Thank you. Thank you for letting me out. No problem. Well, we had to free Tom. It's right there in the newsletter. Enough people subscribed that I finally was free temporary. No, that's great. It seemed like you guys had a great time, great food, good getting away.

It's kind of your first real, real getting away that you've had since all the weirdness of 2020 and beyond, right? Yeah, not to go too far down that road, but it started with lots of trepidation and lots of talk of like, even if we just stay in the hotel room, we got a really nice hotel room and that'll be fine. to us, traipsing all over the place and really not being concerned, not feeling frightened or anything. They have very high vaccination rates in Hawaii and take very good protocols and requiring masks inside and even when you're not eating inside restaurant establishments and all that. So yeah, by the end, we were like having to remind ourselves like, we got our mask, right? Okay, let's go. Oh, right. Yeah, because then you got to fly back. So let me ask you It's more of a procedural, but kind of tech parallel question.

My understanding is if you're going to go to Hawaii, that's a situation where they require you to produce a error. Yeah. And then solve that error and then ship a bug-free product. No, you have to be able to produce your vaccination card. Yeah. Nope. No, you don't. Okay.

But what about a test? Like a recent test? In fact, the only vaccinations that you can use to travel in Hawaii are if you're from Hawaii and have been vaccinated in Hawaii, you can use that vaccination record to let you onto a plane, inter-island. So if you want to fly from Oahu to Maui, you're from Hawaii, or actually, I guess if you've been vaccinated in Hawaii, even if you're not from Hawaii, you can use that to travel. What they require for everyone else, whether you've been vaccinated or not, at least when we traveled. Now, I haven't been keeping up. Things have changed fast, so this may have changed since we traveled. But when we traveled a mere week and a half ago, you had to have a negative COVID test within 72 hours of your flight.

Oh, okay. Vaccinated or not. Right. And it had to be at a Hawaii approved testing location. They have a long list of a bunch of those. Certainly here in California, they have a bunch of those. And then you had to get tested within 72 hours, which means you had to get tested within 72 hours, which means you had to get the result turned back to you within 72 hours.

I actually scheduled a test with a pharmacy and then was looking online and people were talking about not getting their test back in time. So I canceled that and went to a different place where they had a really good system, carbon health. And then once you get your test back, you upload it to the Hawaii website. And when you get off the plane in Hawaii, they shuttle you through this place where you have to show your ID and they look you up in the system to make sure

you've had that negative test. If you don't have your test result or you tested, actually if you tested positive, I don't know what they do, but if you don't have your test result, they make you quarantine for 10 days. Oh, wow. They send you to your hotel room and tell you

not to leave for 10 days. So I guess if you're planning to be there for a month, it might not be the end of the world, but for us that would have been the entire trip. If you're only there for a week, that causes a big problem. We were stressed out a lot. little bit ahead of time, especially when I found out that that pharmacy was not turning them around 72 hours. I'm like, well, what's the point? But we found this place that

turned them around in 24 hours, guaranteed that they would turn them around. And that worked great. And so, yeah. So that was the protocol when last I looked. There was a thing you could buy, I think 25 bucks, 30 bucks that you could actually get delivered to you. And it's a home test or in your hotel room test and you do it via webcam with a uh a proctor so to speak who watches right right to make sure you're not just testing somebody else yeah it's sticking in a glass of water right exactly and you get it within uh i think you get it within six hours or something oh wow yeah six hours that's that's crazy that's a lot carbon health had it had it down they had a separate area for just people traveling to hawaii because there's

that many people needing this test, I guess. And they shuttled you through real quick. And I had, I got my test at like 2.30 in the afternoon. And when I woke up the next morning, I had a text message saying, here you go. Your negative. Upload your result. Wow. Well, I hope the 50th state appreciated just the level of tech prowess they had in their state for a hot minute.

I believe they do. They, you know, there's some mixed feelings there about letting people back into the state. They want the tourism because that is the major industry there. but they don't want people spreading the disease and they certainly don't want people acting irresponsibly and you know just traipsing all over the island trampling stuff again but but overall i felt very welcomed uh i have a couple friends there a friend of mine teaches at the university of hawaii at manoa and another friend ryan ozawa at hawaii on twitter is big in the tech scene uh there he's cool i didn't get a chance to see bert lum um from bite marks radio he does a public radio tech show there uh but yeah it was uh It was a blast. We had a lot of good food, saw a lot of good ocean, saw some turtles, stayed away from the turtles so we didn't bother them, which is what you need to do and had a great time. You know, you're as white as me. Do you get some burned or no?

You good? Oh, I cover up. Me too, dude. I look like the guy, I'm the worst. I'm the guy at the long white, long tea and a freaking hat that covers everything. Because, you know, you got to be. I have one of those, I have one of those Speedo shirts, Speedo brand. It's not like the one you always think of, but it's one of those shirts you can get in the water with.

Sometimes I will do that, which I know is totally dorky. But usually what I would do is I would take that shirt off, get in the water for like 10 minutes, and then put it back on when I got out of the water. And then sunscreen every other part of me that was showing. Right. Yeah. No, you did good then because that's, that sounds like me every time I go anywhere with the sun out. All right. Well, nonetheless, you're back. And that means you're steeped in tech. content. Uh, what is happening today that we should probably be, uh, have our heads concerned about. Yeah, yeah, like a T. I am, uh, I am well steeped. Uh, we'll talk about Google open in its first, uh, retail store, a physical store in New York City today. Uh, but what I,

what I'm guessing you'll want, you'll have some interest in talking about is, uh, sort of wrapping up E3, you know, this idea that Microsoft just kind of nailed it with game pass. Uh, everybody, All the stories today, like I saw one from CNET, one from Reuters, just emphasizing, like, Microsoft GamePass stole the show at E3. Yeah, it kind of did. I watched everything, did coverage of everything. And as a reminder, I put all that coverage up on the core podcast. So if anybody wants to hear all that, you can. Surely some of that will come up today on DTNS.

So we'll talk about it more. But, yeah, it was kind of their thing to lose. And by that, I just mean, you know, huge expectation. So people were like, well, let's see how they're doing now after a couple of years of this buying studios and building out their exclusives and truly, you know, basically doing some of the stuff that Sony has spent years doing. This is Microsoft's already playing catch-up and a lot of that catch-up they paid for. But regardless, it was catch-up. And so this was an opportunity for them to kind of show all that off and to show us where they were. And they kind of killed it.

And part of it is there was no Sony show to compare it to. But also we kind of know what Sony's doing. And unless Sony's got some super hidden non-leaked information about some amazing service they're about to launch, they wouldn't have had much to show anyway. So I'm not surprised that Sony pulled out of that week and a half of coverage and we'll do their own thing and when they want to do their own thing. And that's totally fine and everything. But what Microsoft showed was GamePass is there's a real. reckoning coming for how are you going to match that value um you can you can have all sorts of

loyalties to brands and all that stuff across the board but if you just look at the math that 15 bucks a month for ultimate or 10 if you're just on console or 10 just if you're on PC but all that interoperability and the coming cloud stuff all of that stuff together is outrageously inexpensive for the value proposition and it also is a showcase for games that you would normally see and go interesting but i'm not going to buy that that you now can just play because it's there and all of those ideas this Netflix for gaming concept is taking form and actually you know we're actually seeing what that means like it's a it was a powerful presentation but not just in hey game pass is cool it was oh you do have a lot lined up and there's

a lot of stuff third party and first party and almost all of it's coming to game pass on day one 26 out of the 30 whatever games they showed are day one game pass games and there's some big stuff in there. So yeah, it was huge. They kind of killed the week. You know, from the AAA perspective, I would say that the guerrilla collective thing that happened the day before all that was maybe my favorite thing because they just focused nothing but on nothing but indies. And these, of course, are on all sorts of platforms, including Xbox game pass. But I love where indies are at right now and getting that kind of exposure is super cool to see. But of those two, you know, of the entirety of the week, those

Two killed it. In case of Microsoft, they did everything they needed to say, and it was impressive. So we'll see if it translates to... I look at this, and I am absolutely sure that Sony will be catching up in streaming and cloud gaming, probably using Microsoft Azure as their back end, ironically. But right now, Microsoft has leapfrogged. There's two ways. There's more than two ways. There's a couple ways to win in technology. One is the Apple game, where you just try to be the best not necessarily the first. The other way is the Netflix way, where you're like, let's do the thing before anybody else realizes that's the thing.

And streaming is their most famous example of that. People forget now they were a DVD rental company, but they figured out streaming long before anybody thought that was a good idea. And it's now their entire business. So what Microsoft is doing is saying, sure, we're behind in selling machines, but that's the old game. The new game will be subscription. and we're going to provide a compelling subscription you can get now. We're going to make it more compelling with all these day one releases. And at the top tier, we're going to include cloud, which isn't ready yet,

but it's something you can do, and it is the future. That's where it's all going to be in the future is you don't even want it. You'll be kids in generation, whatever is after Z will be like, why would you ever download anything? You can just play in the cloud. Like, it works great. That seems nuts to us right now, but you're right. That stuff's coming.

And whoever is paying attention to that stuff the most, well, probably have the bigger advantage. But what I liked about it, their messaging in general is they're like, well, we don't care where you're playing it. Like, we want an Xbox, great. We made a rad one. It's cool.

It's powerful. It's probably powerful. That's our best experience, but, you know, not everybody wants that. Yeah, if you want, cloud game on your phone. Or if you want, play this on your PC. Or if you want, sync those saves across all three of those things I just mentioned.

Or, hey, if you want to just spend. Play it in the Apple apps. Oh, wait, sorry. Well, that's coming. That's coming. But if you say to them, you said like this this idea of like here's all that but also hey do you just like steam do you just want to spend 70 bucks on the game you can do that too we got that too like it's it's a weird they'll

keep that going the first thing to go will be the physical media right and and there'll be a hue and outcry when that happens uh because there will always be very dedicated people they're in the audience listening right now uh grumbling that i'm even saying this but uh eventually uh physical media will no longer be the way you get stuff. However, it'll last a lot longer than you think. Go to a best buy and look, they have DVDs sometimes still. You know, go to a target. The fact that DVDs are still available is, I think, a testament to how long Blu-Rays will stick around. But eventually, the main way of releasing will be digital. And eventually, the main way of releasing will be cloud. Right. And some of us, like in my case, I'm already way ahead of this curve. I don't buy

physical ever, unless there's some screaming deal reason to get it. Otherwise, it's like, once in a while for the switch, this will happen. A game will be just cheaper if I get it physically on Amazon versus digitally. But 99.9% of the time, I don't have discs anymore. I'm done. I am so done. When we got the second switch in our household, I realized like, oh, I bought Zelda on a, on a cartridge. Which means I can't just add it.

On the second switch, I have to move it every time I want to play it, you know, which minor inconvenience, obviously. But it was like, man, it would be a little more convenient if I just bought digital. Yeah, but you're right about the long tail, too. This stuff will stick around longer than you think. And, you know, it's just a matter of, you know, who's ready for these changes. And this is also a Microsoft that in a lot of eyes, mine included, failed miserably in the previous generation. They screwed up messaging. They didn't have the right ideas at the right time.

It's funny, a lot of their ideas are actually coming to fruition now. but at the time it just looked bad in the shadow of what Sony was doing with PS4 and that... And it was too early. Right. And I feel like Microsoft needed that problem

to collectively as a company worth billions of dollars with all the people and talent you have. But they learned from it. They had to kind of and build out a thing that was not... Because if they would have won that generation on the same stakes that Sony won that generation,

They'd be trying to do it again, just like Sony is. You'd stick with what's working the best, and I don't think we would see any of this. So I like that they failed because now they're getting scrappy and crazy, and it's fascinating to watch. It's so much fun to watch this change kind of before our eyes. And as a result, it was the most E3 of the E3 week. It felt like a proper, ooh, ah, wow, wee woo, kind of event, whereas everything else was just sort of, well that looks all right and also I can tell the pandemic slowed you guys down and this over here is really bad production value and like it was a real mixed bag kind of across the board and I do miss the stage stuff but I thought they did really great so anyway I don't want to fan boying it sounds like I'm fan boeing and I don't actually have a I don't have skin in this game I was just really impressed with what they did and and I do get a lot of value out of game pass like I started playing yakuza like a dragon last night. a $60, $70

game or whatever, that just is on GamePath, so why not? Just fire it up and play it. I mean, yeah, if you can afford to buy every game you want and you have the time to manage going and, you know,

getting the disc and ordering it and having it delivered, there are advantages to it. You know, people in the chat right now are saying, you know, they can never revoke the server, although most of this stuff has online aspects so they kind of can but yeah you've got the thing

that said for most people 180 dollars a year is less than they would spend that's that's two three games right oh yeah so at the top end you're getting more games for your dollar than you would and if you're looking to save money

and you play a lot of games that's really compelling it also saves you time because you don't have to order things and open a box and go to a store, you just get it, you download it. Now, bandwidth is a constriction. If you're bandwidth constricted, that changes that equation. But the advantages are eventually going to outweigh the disadvantages for this, as we've seen with streaming video. Yeah, all that stuff just, yeah, it's following that path and I think you're 100% right. By the way, if I was the buy, so the new price point for premium AAA titles moving forward

by most accounts is 79 bucks. It's gone up. Or 69. Sorry, I'd say 79. 69 bucks. So 69 bucks times three, $207 you're going to spend just on three games. So if you are just like, well, I only like Sony exclusives. And there's no reason why that's a bad thing because they make amazing exclusives. Let's say you're like, well, I want God of War or that sequel that's coming. I want whatever's next from the, I don't know, naughty dog. There's another 69 bucks. So on and so forth. You're going to spend that money on three games. And that's it. You're done. Plus, you're probably paying for plus, which gives you some free stuff every month. So your bill over there, if you're just looking at this purely as like, you know, a money deal, your bill over there is a lot higher at the end of that year than it was over here. Yeah, yeah. And not that you can't buy a premium product here and there on the Xbox, you can, but it just changes the rules a little bit.

So Sony's going to have to respond and how they do will be really cool and interesting. And I can't wait to see what they do because this competition is good and it's all good for us as gamers. So big fat thumbs up from me. It's getting fatter by the day. Yeah. Actually, the next thing is family plans. You know, like, are we going to see, you know, your children not have to steal your cartridges anymore? Can you include them on your digital games?

Exactly, yeah. Well, it'll be fun to watch as it moves forward. Of course, this and so many more topics are at hand on the Daily Tech News show every single day, mostly. And today is one of those days. I don't think you're on today, though, right? You've got a thing. is it, it's me and Sarah or something. Roger told me something.

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Oh, that was Vera. Okay, well, I'm going to assume that Tom's new book is a science fiction tale about Norm's invisible wife, Vera. That's what I'm going to say. There you go. Let's assume that. It's about an invisible kingdom that rules the planet secretly. Whoa. Really?

That's great. I love it. Why wouldn't you name it, Vera? All right. Tom Merritt, everybody. Aest detect on Twitter. or we'll see you later by now. I almost hung up on her whole call.

I glad I didn't do that. Oh, thank you for not doing that. Well, I've done that before, Brian. You have. And then it ends up being me and Tom and we sit there and chat for a minute until you figure it out. It's wholly embarrassing.

All right. Nicole Spag in coming, and we're going to get some recommendals done. If I can find her little intro here. Nicole Spagnolo joining us, as she always does on Wednesdays for an episode of Recommendals. Nicole, welcome back. How are you? Yeah, that's right.

Recommendals. Whoa, I got a box. What is this? What is this? Oh, hold on. I'm feeling better. I'm so sorry I didn't get to do the 3D. Oh, that's all right.

Nicole, that's okay. I just got a giant box with your name on it. I'm going to open it. What is this? Oh. Be careful with those scissors. It also says Mattia was here. Be careful.

Okay. Mateo was here on the box. When they drew on it, I have to keep the box now. All right. Well, you don't. I don't. You help me open that. I have hundreds of pictures I could send you.

I'm going to let Kim tear it open. We're going to do a live unboxing here, everybody. It's an unboxing, everybody. Kim's got the scissors. I don't know what this is. This is news to me. Okay. Okay.

Don't open with box cutter. You don't, oh, it said that? That's right. Yes. Does Brian, do you know what this is? I do. Oh, you do? Uh-huh.

Okay. I don't have any idea. Oh. Tim's going to want to have some face protection when that box opens. Is she going to want to have a helmet on? Okay. A helmet. Yeah, helmet would be good.

All right. We're working it. Nicole has very successfully sealed this up. Sorry. You've got to flip it over on the bottom. There's only one. What is this? Piece of tape there.

It's another one of her things. It's another. one of her things. Oh, man. Nicole, I see the Litch King in here. Hold on. Is that the Litch King? All right, there's a very nice letter.

I'll save that. I'll save that. Oh, look at all this wow stuff. These are wow shirts and stuff. Is this where all my shirts went? This is great. So, Nicole, I don't know if anyone knows. I mean, I know everyone kind of knows.

knows this, but Nicole, Nicole's like a master quilter. And she made, oh, I know that. And she made this, look at this Warcraft themed, bunch of shirt, old shirts converted to the different panels.

So I want to, I want to say this gift was made possible by, I had donations. I did this secretly. I've been working on it for months. Months. I don't even know what to say. I didn't, I don't deserve this.

So Kim, was able to sneak away a lot of your shirts for me. Brian donated shirts. I donated shirts. Jerry Tolbert donated shirts. And, um, boy, did we all sweating them before we gave them to, uh, they were all washed. Don't worry. Okay. That's a so bad. And Corey Pelton, who is one, you know, a lot of the cinematics that you love. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He, he does a lot of the Cinematics for Overwatch. He donated. In fact, there's some developer shirts in there that I thought were really cool.

And the inside is a bunch of arcade machines. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I didn't see the inside. Oh, that's so cool. Nicole, this is so nice. Yay. Why do I deserve this?

It's a happy early birthday. The card says happy early birthday. Oh, all right. Well, this is the nicest thing. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to curl up with this. My first, the next nap I take is this. it with this.

I made it to where you can use it all year round. That is so nice. Mark is going to paint you, it looks like, by the way. He's going to, oh, she's getting painted. We missed it. What did he do? He's behind you with a paintbrush. Yeah, I saw him.

You were going to get schelacked. Well, that was awesome. Thanks for helping keep that a secret, babe. Kim gave no, and I had no idea. That was news. I love it. I love it. I thought for sure.

I was like, I put him. up in the tad cool Facebook group. I'm like, hey, I'm working on a secret project. I can't tell you what. I didn't know if you would see it, but yeah. I'm just, I'm blown away. I don't even know what to say about that. That was really, really nice.

And it's not just Warcraft. It's, there's also some Overwatch in there. I think Herstone, your Hurstown shirts in there. There's a number of shirts. Oh, I try to do the really big ones. I kind of broke it up. So like, the Litch King one. It's a couple panel.

Yeah. Also, there's a pack of Boris Vallejo cards in here. This is why you were talking about Boris Vallejo. This is why you brought that up. Oh, these are the ones you can't let Mateo see. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of new people in these. But I love, I mean, back in the day, like in high school, there was nobody as cool as Boris Vallejo, dude.

I was so into that guy's art, his fantasy art. Oh, my gosh. The, the ribbon that I, that wrapped the quilt is hoard. ribbon that I made for the wrapping. This is awesome. I don't even know what to say. Happy early birthday. I couldn't wait to your birthday.

When I finish a quilt, I'm like, I got to give it. And you never know when someone's going to release that I have to do. If I make it to my next birthday, that'll be great anyway. But no, I'm stoked. This is just the nicest thing ever. So thank you for that. I'm really glad you like it. Yeah, I love it.

It wasn't just me. It was a lot of people involved. Well, thank you to everybody. who helped and I can't believe you all kept it a secret I just completely had no idea that usually doesn't happen that's a rare thing I'll post the picture of it on my Instagram if anyone wants to get a

detail of all the shirts. It is incredible yeah you got to zoom in there and look at all the different shirts and stuff in there I was actually talking to someone at Jinks because I went through all their clearance shirts because I just needed shirts and so I got talking to the customer

support at Jinks and she's like you have to send it to me when you're done it really is cool and I can I can tell which shirts like immediately I could that Litch King one and the one the old Warcraft 3 one like I know those shirts I wore them to death and now they'll forever they'll never go away that's awesome and you know what most of them don't fit me anymore anyway it's perfect perfect use it's great and I thought man my closet's weird what happened in here that's the only hint I add was that my closet felt weird and that's it I was wondering how she was going to slip the away like it's really impressive you know what that tells me especially if you haven't worn them that's the what that tells me is there's there's shite in my closet that i have no idea i still have yeah that's what that tells me well or that you have no idea you had that i had exactly so i should probably just blindly throw more things away and i wouldn't have so much clutter right yep exactly well that was really awesome i don't need it the five-year anniversary one well that's the one i'll smell really hard

It was still sealed in plastic. I never, nobody ever wore that shirt. Really? Yes. Well, now I love it even more. I mean to have been fine if you wore it, but now. I know. I'm not as turned on as I was before.

I don't know if Hokito listens, but he was supposed to send me shirts, but he took forever. So now I'm going to make him a quilt of the shirts that he had. Oh, nice. That's how you get your own is you just take forever submitting him. I see how it is. Yeah, no, that's funny. I have to give Eric our time. that. Well, it's really awesome and expect

all kinds of social media photos until my face bleeds. I can't wait to show this off. It's awesome. All right. I don't even know how to continue here. Let's go ahead, I guess, and do recommend it. All right. Yeah, let's jump over to Brian, I guess. Hey, Brian. This one, so mine's

a movie. And there's really not going to be, there was no part of this thing that I could isolate out that isn't a dead giveaway. So, I just leaned into it. It's going to be very obvious. but this is something brand new. All right.

I'm going to hit play. Oh, the milk is gone bad. Hold up just a second. Why is everything in this fridge warm and tepid? I better step it up and fight the heat because I'm not making any profit if the coffee is a light and sweet. Woo-hoo!

My broula, my fridge broke. I got coffee, but not with leech. Oh, God. Try my mother's old recipe. One can of condensed milk. Nice. Oh, hey. Your lottery ticket.

Paciencia and faith. So this is the heights, right? Is that what this is? In the heights, yes. This is, uh, this is the, this is the production that actually put Lynn Manuel Miranda on, on the map before Hamilton. This was something that he, uh, wrote, um, and was a show before, uh, Hamilton, uh, was released and went big.

Um, if you love Hamilton, this is, this is good. It's no Hamilton, but it's, uh, it's a Lincoln and two Washington's is, is, uh, wow. That's pretty good, though. yeah yeah i mean if hamilton is a 10 then the lincoln and two washington's would be a seven sure sure um it is uh the music is the best thing about this there uh i talked to somebody who actually saw the the initial production of in the heights and he said yeah the movie's good the movie doesn't have as much plot and storyline as the stage production um and my my response was yeah it had just enough to make the songs important, string them together and tell the loose story. It's very good. It's in the heights. It's on HBO Max.

It's exactly what you think it is. If you're familiar with Hamilton, it's a bunch of really catchy, well-written songs and a story that goes along with it. It's an Espanio la-la land is what it is. Oh, nice. I've heard, so that's, so the big takeaway I've heard from people of, uh, You know, various dissent to, you know, people from Mexico, people from the Dominican Republic, whatever, that this is like a really big deal for them because this is like representation they don't normally get or when they do get it, it's not great. Like kind of West Side story style stuff is not exactly what they're looking for. And this is a little more like culturally, you know, appropriate and all that.

There's also some controversy that there aren't enough really dark people from Dominican Republic. So he's been feeling a lot of questions about that. And, you know, no one's ever truly happy with stuff like this. But I like that. I like that there's some representation going on there. I think he's incredibly talented. And his soundtrack for Moana is on in this house all the time because of hands around. And he's just so good, dude.

That stuff is so good. So I'm all about that. He does make an appearance in this. He's in there very briefly. He's not a major character, but he's a very prominent minor character. Jimmy Smith is in this. And he's really good. And he's even there to give a little bit.

There's a couple little Hamilton Easter eggs that you'll notice as you watch this. Nice. Nice. Does he help help? Help Dexter kill people in this or no, he's not into that? It doesn't help. No. Jimmy Smith does not help Dexter kill anybody.

Okay. Yeah. Because, you know, I remember that back from Dexter, but I guess he's not continuing that trend in this musical. That sounds good. Right. Well, all right. I'll see this.

This is on our list anyway. so it's just a matter of time. Yeah, and this is, this is one of those things that's an HBO simultaneous theater and, uh, streaming release, which means it's only here for 30 days. So if you miss it, um, then you've got to wait until it comes back around. But, uh, so 30 days, I think is the, is the, is the, the timer has started. So you'll want to jump on that. Who is, um, Anthony, I'm sorry, this name, Anthony Ramos. Who's this? Yeah. So he's the main, the main guy in this. Um, I, he's done some uh it's funny he was in one of the con or skull island oh was he the son in hamilton he might have been he was the son in hamilton and he played a dual role they did they did a whole

thing on him on cbs sunday morning i watched oh here okay yeah you're right and he is in the godzilla king of the monsters movie he is yeah and it's funny the two main characters are the two main male characters i should say were one of them was in skull island the other one was in uh Um, no, one of, yeah, one of them was in Skull Island. The other one was in Godzilla King of the Monsters. Hmm. Okay. Oh, he's got a great, he's in all sorts of stuff. Stars born, bunch of TV. Yeah. Yeah. Monsters and men, law and order. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Like, uh, Daphne Ruben Vega. This also has kind of a rent feel to it. Uh, and definitely Ruben Vega, who was me, uh, Mimi. Yeah, Mimi in, uh, in rent is also in this. Um, I don't want to say out loud what Claire Gax says she wants. him to do to her but uh yeah yeah she uh she she she likes him she's a fan let's just put it that way we'll leave it at that it's something the batman wouldn't do is what uh one more thing the batman uh won't do add it to the list uh but also you get uh stepney beatrice from

brooklyn nine nine i didn't realize she could sing but she's she's in this uh she's uh rosa from brooklyn nine nine um uh dia from oranges the new black is in here there's a lot of people you're like oh yeah i know that person from that and oh yeah jlo's ex mark anthony mark anthony is in here as well i like him he's all right yeah uh because she's all back into she's back to batman again speaking to batman she's back to batman yes current but she's disappointed see that story doesn't stop giving it does not stop yes exactly gives more than Batman um all right uh well done. My pick for the week is I watched a bunch of Seinfeld in the background because I had to work on rock runners. I had no time for anything. So nothing new? No record. Nothing new. I just didn't see anything new. I just had zero time to sit down and really consume anything. I did. I was able to manage a couple more episodes. I think I'm up to six of sweet tooth. Still loving that. Oh, yeah. It's very good. I got through that train episode where he meets that old football friend of his and that was that was an interesting twist.

yeah I really like it and I'm just sort of savoring it taking my time but mostly it's because I've been in production hell and I haven't had time so with E3 plus all this other stuff I just I could kind of have something going on in the background in this case just tons of old Seinfeld episodes because they're all great and I never tired of them of them so I just keep them going and that's how I got everything done on time sorry what did you say Nicole is it Hulu that Seinfeld's on? Yeah. Oh yeah, we can go and recommend it.

Seinfeld on Hulu, all of it. Go check it out. Greatest line all the whole time. All right. I will throw it over to Nicole. So Nicole, we're to you. What do you want to recommend? All right.

I was in the move for a documentary. So I went on the hunt. All right. I like it. By the way, did you watch the villages documentary? Started it. Oh, I got to finish that. I got halfway through it.

got busy or something happened I had to go but I meant to finish it but I that wow that thing the dude in the van you were right he's weird I'm I'm still weirded out by that guy and I'm not even done really yeah yeah but I can see why everybody thinks that uh 27 year old filmmakers like the hot new thing he's got a real there's a real tone to this that's very cool and uh and that world is a that world is a different world than I exist in I just I that's what I like about a good documentaries and it shows me something I don't know and that movie is all about stuff I don't know and yeah so good

recommendation. Yeah, it's very weird. Yeah, it's very weird. But it's good. Yeah. So I went and looked for a documentary and this is what I landed on and it turns out there's,

it's all, it's produced by Netflix. So when we get into it, I'll talk about what else there is. I'm going to hit play on this trailer. Whoops, here we go. Oh, it's not playing. Here we go.

Well, it's very quiet. I don't know why. Powerful tool. But it's no accident. So many of us are struggling with debt. It's how the whole game was designed. Americans now owe more in student loans than in auto loans or in credit card debt. It's a crisis that we have to address. Credit card companies conduct literally tens of thousands of experiments per year.

To figure out, how do I make the most money from each person? Experts suggest to retire comfortably, a middle-class American should save at least $1 million. I think I might be laid to the game learning about this. In the U.S., because of COVID-19, trading on Robin Hood soared. Let me just clarify, Bay trading isn't investing. Base trading actually is gambling. Why do we keep falling for the same old act? Human beings are terrible lie detectors.

Most of us think we're good lie detectors, and that's why we're often fooled. And how can we avoid taking a bait? This is your golden opportunity. Weird. I'm going to watch this. It'll piss me off on it. This is, so this is a, well, yes and no. I feel like money in general is a very, some people get it.

Some people don't. A lot of people don't understand the game that you're playing. And what this does, it's called Money Explained. So Netflix has a series of documentaries in the explained kind of category. They just have it. So this one's specifically focusing on money. And there are five episodes. The first one is Get Rich Quick, where it talks about Ponzi schemes.

All of these episodes are very, very relevant. It was just released this year. it talks about MLMs. Oh, my God. How many of you get a friend request from the random friend that you were sort of acquaint with at high school. And then like the first thing they say is, here, join my group to buy lipstick or fingernail things.

No, dude, it's the worst. It's the freaking worst. I know. I hate it. Ugh. I had a mom friend invite me to a clothing group. And I'm like, I'm sorry. It's not my thing.

Don't, please don't do that to me. Yeah. I have family. I have family who did this. And I had to lay down the law. I had to lay down the law with some family about this, not that long ago. And I just said, dude, I'm not doing this. So that first episode, yeah, it really talks about why MLMs can exist and why they're not taken a task.

So, but there's loopholes that these MLMs have figured out. And so I really recommend this documentary series for everyone, especially the credit cards episode. Yeah. If you have student loans is the third episode, gambling. Oh, the gambling one. I noticed Jane Lynch is in that narrating. First voice I heard, yeah.

That's cool. Yeah. So each one of the episodes has a famous. So the first one is Tiffany Haddish. I think Jane Lynch does the credit card ones. Yeah, Jane Lynch does credit card ones. The guy who does the gambling ones, oh, his voice really, I didn't like it. I didn't like it at all.

I was like, could you just clear your throat? Could you clear it for me, please? Seth Rogen? But it's good information. No, I don't know who They don't say They don't say who it is It wasn't Seth Rogan

It sounds like he's an old mob boss Honestly Oh Even better They said the list of Where is it It's in the trailer Of all the different voice actors

That are doing There it goes So it was Bobby Cannaval Yeah from Oh A Connoll

From He was in vinyl. He was the dad in Ant Man, the new stepdad. Oh, wait. This is the guy from Best in Show. He has a terrible voice. Who might? Oh, I'm thinking of Bob Balabat or Balabat.

Yeah, Bobby Connovalet. God, I don't know if you guys ever saw that show vinyl that I recommend. Oh, vinyl. But he usually, he does play like, you know, he's the wise guy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a big Martin Scorsese. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's why he's doing the gambling voiceover. Edie Falco and Marcia Gay Hardin are the other two. So check it out. It's not, I didn't really, I didn't necessarily feel upset. It just kind of opens your eyes to a certain, certain things that are happening, especially with credit cards. Yeah. Like the way that they classify users is very interesting to me.

I would love to become a hacker Like use all of the Like there's a guy who he has like binders of credit cards and he knows when to use them And like he uses all of the companies like incentives against them basically But yeah It's an interesting set of shows. They're only 20 like 22 minutes long. Oh, they're short.

Okay, cool. So all right. So they sound like they're also they're more education. than trying to get a rise out of everybody. They're just sort of... Yeah. I mean, the trailers are always going to be a little more provocative because they're trailers, but...

Sure. But I will watch that. Absolutely will watch those. I felt more educated about money, the system. Credit card companies hate my guts because I don't do any of the things they want me to do. You pay off your... You probably, yeah, you're part of...

No revolving. They go through that. Yeah, they probably do. And I use it as purely a way build credit and to immediately pay as soon as anything's paid for with a card i paid off immediately like not even any like even sometimes the same day because i had to run in with some debt back in the 90s i don't ever want to do that again and so it just irritates me that that's how they make their money so i'm like you know what i'm going to use you for all you're giving me

and i'm not giving you shite back you're never going to you're you're a hacker yeah i'm kind of hacking it yes a little bit because i've been on the other side of it where i was fooled by it and i'm not doing that ever again. So it's not, there's, you know, some people who are like, well, I'm getting right. I'm never having another credit card. No, no, no. Have the card. Just use it in the way they don't think you should, or use it. Right. And then you're golden, man. Do that. They go through the history of how credit cards came to be. And Bank of America was actually the first one to release a credit card and they lost a ton of money on it. They also talk about the regulations and all of that like with what's on your bill now like if you only pay the minimum you're going to be

paying on this for you know five years kind of stuff yeah so it's it's a it's a worth a watch definitely especially if you are struggling with with money which most of us are yeah you know who doesn't have some reason to struggle with it and that seems like that trailer leads you believe that that struggle is what they're they're mastering ways to profit on the struggle, even if it's a minor struggle for some and a massive for others, like that whole business is around always having it be a little hard. And that sucks. I hate it.

The student loan one, the student debt is brutal to watch. Because I feel like I just missed it. I had about $20,000 in student loan debt when I graduated college. and I worked full time at the college, and they paid for my tuition when I was a sophomore. I started working there when I was a sophomore. So I only had, I had $20,000 for my freshman year and part of my sophomore year. Yeah. And then, like, I read something.

It was like, me and my friend went to the diner, and we ordered cheese fries, and I used my loan money, my student loan money, I never thought I'd be paying those cheese fries off in the next three years. Did you ever do the math and with interest and everything, try to figure out what your cheese fries cost you? What was cheese fries cost you? Right, right? Yeah.

That'd be a fun, fun bit of math. It's probably not crazy, but I'll bet it's like 50 to 100 bucks for cheese fries. They go through that for you in that episode. Yeah. They show you, like, the compounding interest and, like, you're paying on the interest, and if you defer and, oh, it's, and, oh, then it goes into the for-profit schools. So if, I don't know if you guys know this, but I worked at a company that sold software to college of universities, and I went around and I trained the staff. I was, I was a trainer. So I've seen all the colleges and how it's kind of evolved over the years.

And I've told my kids, I'm like, you don't have to go to college. You need an education, but you don't need to go to college. It needs to be, it's kind of a racket. Oh, yeah. Talk to Justin. He got a full-blown degree. And he'll tell you, don't do it. He's like, don't do it.

They're just going to, it's just a racket to get your money, but education matters. That's important. And I don't know. This is someone who, you know, my daughter's in the chat room right now just graduated with a degree from the University of Utah. But she also hacked it. She doesn't owe anything. That's awesome.

And we figured out a way to do it and did it over a pretty quick amount of time. And she's, she's solid. She's golden. So she got that education. She's not saddled with the debt. I'm not even sure how we did it or how she did it. Yeah. But, I mean, there's ways to do it.

That's the thing. education is good, and they talk about that, why the U.S. kind of made these loans, student loans, and why it was all around the time of Russia going into space. And at the time, I think it was, was it Eisenhower? He was like, we need to improve our education to actually also get to space. So that's why he kind of created these loans to really push education. And it was originally only supposed to be for like science and engineering. And then it just kind of bled into the other areas.

And yeah, we're here. Yeah. So it's pretty nutty. Well, all right. Remind me the name again. Some of the chat were asking again, too. What was the name of it? The show?

Money explained. So yes, Claire Geek. The U.S. Student Loan system was created because Russia went into space. Yeah. I'm serious. Like, watch it. That is why the system was created.

to encourage U.S. citizens to go to school. That's right, Claire Geek. To compete with Russia and the space program. It seems, I know that seems silly. No, no, no. It's, I want to learn more about that. I'm in. I'm watching this thing,

especially hearing it's only 20 minutes to pop. Like, I can fit this in. There you go. All right. Excellent. Ooh, sorry, there's a new trailer for Picard that just popped, and John Delancey looks like Hugh is back. Holy weird.

All right. Sorry, that just popped up on my screen. I was going to freak me out. All right. Hey, Nicole posts all this stuff on Twitter when she's done. So you can follow her at Nicole Spag or you can just check out the retweet on our thing. But don't do that. Follow her. Follow her.

She's a good follow. Yeah. And she made the most badass. Oh, Kim took it upstairs. Quilt in the history of ever. And I can't wait to snuggle in it and smell all my wow friends. Just kidding. It's all clean.

Nicole, thanks for doing that and hanging out with us today. and we'll talk to you soon. It's Nicole, the bite. Seriously, is that not the coolest thing? It's so cool. That is the coolest thing. It is absolutely coolest thing. Good luck, everybody, with the rest of the birthday.

Because this is you got a challenge. Yeah, my thing's sitting right over there that I got for you. I'm thinking I'm just going to take it back to the story. Just go return it, start over. Lame. Lame. Chat room, I'm trying to find this. Claire Geek.

You're trying to find Claire Geek? Oh, that made me laugh. I didn't want to make too big a deal out of it, but it made me laugh. I'm trying to get this GIF of Q walking in the room to work, but it's not working. Here, maybe I can. Here we go. Okay. So, chat, there's a, there he is.

So he's walking in. It's very short, but it's Q walking up to him. And he's, you know, they haven't tried to make him look young. He looks like old Q. I don't know what that means, though. I'm into the idea of Q. coming back. I don't know why I'm just sort of it. Oh, I am too. Yeah. Okay. Let's...

Well, Picard. Gene Luck Pickard. Let's get out of here. We are going to play a bonus mashup, though, today. Oh, cool. Jamie's got quite a few of these lined up, so I thought we'd play one today. He really wants me to play the next Resident Evil one, but I'm not going to save that for Monday, just so we have a little space between these things. Yeah. Hey, Brian, did you ever wonder what the story... I mean, you No, but you ever want to relive the discovery of the Hey, Burdom moment, is that interesting? I do. It's been a long time, and I remember it being very enjoyable.

Well, then here it is. Brian got a voicemail, a Google voicemail. Right, so I got my Google voice account, which, you know, I don't think I've ever used for anything. Yeah. I think I just got it because it's like, all right, well, I better pick up a Google voice account. Came to email yesterday to the following voicemail. Hi, Birdham. That's just cause you, how you're sitting today, darling.

Have a good evening. God bless. Love you. Bye-bye. Ugh. What's that ending? Bye-bye. This is just one more time.

Hi, Birdham. Okay, wait. Hey, Berdom. So you're not Burdom. Burdom. I was thinking maybe it's darling, but you listen to it again. It's not. Hi, Bertham.

It's Bertham. Birdham. Hey, Bertham. That's just calls you, how you're feeling today, darling. It's calling to see how you're furling today. Burr-Bur-Bur-D. It's like punctuation for her. I'd like

a little bit of a snack, Burdham, bird and a I get that with fries, burtem. Oh, that's awesome. All right. If you get more of those, give over,

all right? Sure. Sure. Happily. The only problem I have with these, these origin clips is I don't have, I wish I knew when this happened. Like, how old was that?

That was pretty old. Very old. Yeah, that was early days. And he doesn't have the, the follow-ups in there because we got a second message for Burtum and then we called and that really ended the whole thing

because that's right. I forgot we did all that. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be like 12, 13, 2012, 2013, something like that. Yeah, something like that. Weird. All right. Well, that was awesome. Jamie, as always, thank you. We love your stuff. So keep it up. And good luck on your surgery, which I think happens

Oh, yeah. No, wait. It's probably Monday or something. I forget. It's soon, though. but we wish you a quick and painless recovery for sure uh oh there he is well you don't have to include them jamie but if you know i'm just trying to think what the heck was that i feel so old and brian's microphones sounded different i don't know what that was about that was weird oh so much so much different you're so warm and inviting now listen to you now like a hot bath like being wrapped in world of warcraft uh quilts that's right we're going to go now thanks everybody for being here

again we're off tomorrow Brian will be at his event However I'll be here Streaming something I'll be playing some game Yeah yeah there'll be content There's always content Yeah come out and hang out I think that'd be fun

We'll do that tomorrow at the same normal time So you guys can come hang out maybe a little later Maybe I'll use the morning to walk or something But anyway I'm excited about you going Because you'll come back with stories And we'll have brand new stuff next Monday So come on back for that There will be a film sack like we said

It's a watch along And what else? All kinds of stuff this weekend. There's core tonight. No, tomorrow night, sorry. And there will be dungeons this weekend. All the normal business. So plenty to do.

Lots to hear. But no coverville today. A reminder. No coverville. No coverville tomorrow. No, guess the connection Friday. None of that stuff. Zip.

Nata. Zipo. Zippity doda. I have to get your cover someplace else. Exactly. Brian. That was some aggressive zipping your headphones. That was way too aggressive.

I don't know what I was thinking there. Hey, if you like the show, tell your friends and head on over to patreon.com. com slash TMS and throw a little skunk money our way. That'd be awesome. I don't even know what that means. Frogpants.com slash TMS is for everything else. And now we'll play a song. Like, here's a cover.

We've got one more cover. Let's play this. Yeah, we do have a cover. Dustin from Michigan wrote in said, for my next venture around the sun, I hit the number, the answer to which no one knows the question, the creation of a special computer, the size of a small planet, was created built from organic components and named Earth to find this question. I know you guys know

the number. This last year, with two boys in high school, a mix of in person and virtual, in scouts and band, one of them graduating as well as still working on his Eagle Scout rank. We all need a vacation from each other. Next week, the wife and I will get a few days without them camping up north, and

it all starts on Father's Day. Covermeister, our musical likes seem to be very similar, so I leave it up to you. Scott, how about a short selection of sound clips of our favorite semi-swear word shite. Oh, all right. Keep up the great work, guys. Stay safe.

Say stave. I'm going to play this for him first. Happy birthday to you. So he's got that going. Very good. And then he wants a bunch of shite. All right. Oh, we only have one with the word shite in it.

Yeah. Or does he mean shit? Does he mean shit? Well, he means shite, but I think if you throw some shits in there around the shite, then it should be okay. All right, I'm going to do it. So here comes. Here comes a bunch of them.

The shitter. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Pig shit. Peace up shit. Hello, Scott.

Shut up shit. Oh, that's a shit, man. Why was the hello Scott in there? I don't know. It's followed by the hello. Shut up shit. Oh, it's too good. All right.

There you go. Continue with your song. Well done. Excellent. So he said pick anything. He just likes the stuff that's harder rocking. So I'm going to go with this one right here. If you're familiar with the band Baseman Alchemy, they've put out a bunch of covers.

And these guys are so great. They interject some funk and rock into their covers. And it's evident on this one, too. It came out in 2012 from their album, covers from the basement. It is White Stripes, Seven Nation Army. See you guys on Monday. I'm going to fight them off A salonation army couldn't hold me bound

They're going to reap it all I'm taking bedtime right behind my back and I'm talking to myself at night because it can't forget back and fall through my mind behind a cigarette and the message

coming from my eyes and is leaving alone Don't want to hear about it Every single one's got a story to tell Everyone knows about him From the queen of England to me I'll do it in here And if I catch you coming back my way

I'm gonna sell it to you And that ain't what you want to hear But that's what I'll do Have a feeling coming from my bones And find it home I'm going to winchita far from this old blood for ever more, I'm going to Wichita far from this old blood forevermore, I'm going to weather strong. Make the sweat drip out of every pore And I'm bleeding and I'm bleeding

And I'm bleeding right before the Lord All the words are gone to plead from me And I will sing no more And the sea is coming from my son Until you're going home This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at FrogPants. The future. You murdered the future.