The Morning Stream - TMS 2137: CSI Stardew Valley

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

No Show Yesterday. No Show Tomorrow. Doctor Jellyfingers Checking the Oil. Liquid Nitrogen-Chilled Don Cheetos. Meringue All the Things! Show me Your Gross Sausage Meat. Masticating Quietly on Air. They've Got Ringos On Their Thingos! Hand Me Those Children. Waiting There In His Underoos. Throuples Do It As Soon As They Leave. If Your Penis Looks Like an Artichoke, Please See a Doctor. All the Bad Kids Died. Cloud Fading with Tom. Maybemental with Nicole and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, no show yesterday. No show tomorrow. Dr. Jellyfingers, checking the oil. Liquid nitrogen chill don Cheetos. Marang all the things. Show me your gross sausage meat. Ew. Masticating quietly on air.

They've got ringos on their thingos. Hand me those children. Waiting there in his underoes. Thruples, do it as soon as they leave. It's true. If your penis looks like an artichoke, please see a doctor. All the bad kids died. Cloud fading with Tom.

Maybe mental with Nicole and more on the same. episode of The Morning Stream. Please, mother. No, I will not hide in the fruit cellar. I used to wonder, what would be like to have someone miss you while you went poo? The morning stream. Why, oh, why did I take

the blue pill? Good morning, everyone. Welcome to TMS for Wednesday, June 30th, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian. Hi, but hello, Brian. Hello, Scott. I missed you all yesterday. Yeah, did you notice there was no show yesterday, Brian? Did you notice that we didn't have one? Yeah, I noticed because of the parade of people going pod fading. Yeah, that was fun. They're still doing it this morning. I noticed in the chat room. Everyone loves talking about pod fading. There was no pod fade. It was just... No pod fade. I had some stuff come up. I have a contract thing for some art that I have to finish before I leave tomorrow.

And as a result, I was like, I don't know how I'm going to do this if I don't take the time. So here's the bummer of it. Got up early, got cranking on it, already working on it, like getting ahead of myself. Like, all right, I got a little time, a breather here with the show not being on. And then I got, all right, it's break time. I'm going to take the dog for a good hard while. walk around the lake and kind of get sweaty and, you know, a little exercise in. And then I'm going to come home.

I'm going to shower. And then I'm going to get right back to it. And I did all those things. But then when I got home, I reached down to pick up a box of stuff, had some books in there. And I heard my back go, like a little sound like that. And I went, no, no, not that one. That happens about every other year. No, please, not that.

I says, I says to myself. I says. Yeah. I said self. Yeah. And then so that was the sign that it was going to get weird and it did. So this is my like bi-yearly throws my lower back out of a complete whack moment. Usually it's something like snow shoveling or, you know, mowing the lawn or something.

Anyway, my parents did this all the time. Now it's my turn. I've been, this has been a thing for me. You know, a lot of people are like, oh, we're not getting any younger, are we? This has been happening to me since I was like 19. Every other year or so my back hurts. It just happens. So what does this mean for the family reunion?

Is it I can't pick up small children to... Basically, yeah, you're going to hand me those children, and I'll have to be sitting somewhere, like some sort of... You're going to be like a presidential candidate at a rally. Pick up that baby and hold it up to me so I can kiss it. Yeah, I have to be like Lord of the Manor, and then you pass them over to me. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how any of that's going to go. It'll be fine, but I'm going to look like a little old hermit, just scooching around. I can't do any of the, like, there was talk of hikes and other stuff. That ain't happening now. Oh, that's too bad. There's no way I'm going to hike.

Are you kidding me? Yeah, no, definitely not. You don't want to aggravate it further, but that sucks. Yeah, it does suck. So I got the Aleve, you know, that's the only thing that ever really does anything to it for me. Yeah. So I took some Aleve and we'll see if it leaves things.

I've been putting ice on it and, you know, alternating a little bit of heat, not too much because heat can make it worse. So you want to just do a little heat and then a little bunch of ice. Yep, alternate, back and forth. I did a little bit of that after the ride because the tops of my legs, my quads, my quads, man, were sore. Oh, sweet, quads, quads.

Yeah. It's very manly to have your sore quads. Very manly to have sore quads. Yeah. So did you, but I guess you used ice. You just said that. You put ice on those. Used ice.

It alternated ice and heat and took some Advil. Today I'm fine. And yesterday I went to, went to the doctor. Went to the doctor. Guess what he told me? I had my annual physical, which is certainly not annual. I don't know why I put the word annual because I don't do it annually yet. But, yeah, this was the whole...

Maybe you misspelled anal instead of anal. Yeah, well, I did because, yeah, Dr. Jellyfingers did have to go and check my oil. Oh, good. Good. Yeah, this is a new doctor, a different doctor than the first one I had my physical with. Because he retired, this is the new doctor, the young, the young Doc Hollywood that took the place of the old David Ogden Steers, basically. Yeah, the young upstart. That's right.

And he does things a little bit differently. Like, old doctor, basically, I just stayed dressed, sat on the side of the table on the paper. And then when he needed to cup the jewels, he'd say, all right, pull your pants down, cup the jewels, and turn it. around put your elbows on that blah blah blah but uh this doctor said all right strip down to your underwear and i'll be back in the room in a few minutes oh yeah so it's like oh okay so you do you do that you do it that way okay did you put you in a gown or anything or just sitting there in your skives oh wow sitting there in my uh in my jockey boxer briefs wow wow with little Avengers logos on them how long how long were you made to wait for this did you just have to sit there very long

Oh, probably about 10 minutes. Probably about 10 minutes. That's a long time to sit there in your... It is, yes. All right, but, you know, a thorough going over. That's right. Yeah. It took a bunch of, not cut the jewels,

cup the jewels. He cupped the jewels. Oh, yeah, nobody ain't, and ain't nobody cutting no jewels. Are you kidding me? Don't you cut my jewels. Uh, you got a, you know, a couple pints of blood yanked out of me.

You're going to check it for, uh, see what percentage of that is, uh, is gravy. And then get back to me. Yeah. Well, very nice. Look at you doing your regular checkups. That's good. Preventative is everything, you know.

Yeah. That's how you... You know, he gave me the usual cut down on carbs and sugar, blah, blah, blah. Right. Which, you know, Scott was very difficult on Sunday. Tina took me out for a mystery date. Oh, yeah. And we went to a place in town here that I recommend to anyone coming from,

to Colorado for a visit, come to Denver, whatever. It's 10 minutes from downtown. It's a really easy drive. It's called the inventing room. And to say that this guy, the couple that own it, are inspired by Willie Wonka, is an

understatement. The whole place is that kind of purple and gold that they used in the Gene Wilder movie, and there's actually a picture of Gene Wilder up on the wall, like a really cool drawing of it. He's got a a thing he built himself that drops a marble that goes down a whole long, like, chain of things to get to a deal.

But the whole thing is, oh, what do they call that? Chemistry gastronomy or molecular gastronomy. Heard of this before. Yeah. Heard of this term. And it's a way of playing with your food using things like freeze drying and glow in the dark and. liquid nitrogen and stuff like that and so we had some you know basically it was six couples approximately there were a couple of throuples in there as well throuples but uh thruple well the groups of

three i don't know if they were doing it as soon as they left the place were were these your i mean are these people you knew or just these are just strangers no no these are just strangers so and they the whole thing you're wearing a mask except for the times you're eating you're wearing a mask in this place still these guys are very very conscientious about that but you were basically standing along this guy's preparation counter and he says all right I'm going to hand you guys we all have these little plastic cups and he says all right I'm going to hand you guys some Cheetos put these in your plastic cups and eat them and he holds it holds it out to us on like a pizza what are those pizza peels like a long stick

with a flat thing on the end of it and these are just regular regular Cheetos These are not regular Cheetos. These are Cheetos that have been soaking or been dipped in liquid nitrogen. And so as soon as you eat it, you've got like steam coming out of your, like vapor, not really steam, but vapor coming out of your mouth. Oh, wow. That's cool. Do they shatter? Do you eat them and they shatter?

Is that how that works? No, they actually still crunch like Cheetos. And they're not soggy. They are just ice cold, but still crispy, still crunchy. and you go Oh weird That's really cool Yeah it doesn't burn your tongue

Isn't so cold you can't take it As a matter of fact If you close your mouth And chomp on it The gases created by this vapor Expand in your mouth And you feel like Like you've got more air in your

In your mouth than before That's really really cool Were there any like at any point during this Were you like concerned that it was too weird Or it was too I don't know Like putting a freeze-dried? Is this a chemical that we should be eating? Yeah, yeah, kind of like that, I guess?

Not at all. Not at all. All right. They put you at eating. It sounds like they chill you out there. That's good. The other, exactly. The other thing they do is they do freeze-dried candy.

And I'm going to hold up something to the camera. I know our listeners at home won't be able to see this. Ooh, let's have a look. I'm a hold up. This is a piece of candy. What is? Would you like to take a guess? As to what very common candy item this was before it was a freeze-dried.

Nut or butter? No? It's a good yes. Butterfinger. It is not. This is a milk dud that has been freeze-dried. It does not look like a milk-dud. No, it looks like a chunk of moonrock or something.

Yeah. It's all blown out. It's still, like, it's crispy, that's not chewy at all. it tastes just like a milk dud it's amazing that sounds all right see if I can get one of these guys out did they do any candy bars or anything like full full blown

like here's a snickers all frozen up into a freezing log no sadly no how about this guy any guesses on this giant red orb that's in my hand what this was was that well now I'm gonna assume they blow up big so that might have been a skittal see very good

now you're now you're thinking No, this is not a skittal. This is a jolly rancher. Jolly rancher. Gosh, dang it. They definitely are popping out big, right? Like, they're coming out larger than they were. And I won't get them out, but in the bottom of this jar, those are skittles right there, the yellow and orange and purple that you're seeing that.

Oh, my lord. They look like partially popped popcorn kernels. Oh, yeah. Look at that. The way they got the splits in them and stuff? Yeah, yeah. I'm jealous of this. This stuff is great.

This stuff is great. It's, it's the only way. I want to eat a milk dud, honestly. Well, think about it for a second. Milk duds are notoriously hideous for your dental work if you have any. They'll pull your shit out and everything. They get stuck between your teeth. They're kind of awful in that way.

But they taste great and they're super addicting. Give them to me in a big blown out freaking little nuke ball and I'm in. Yeah. These are crunchy like, oh, what's a good comparison? Like a cheese pop or a cheese puff. Oh, yeah, yeah. The same consistency, but they have that chocolate caramel flavor to them. Interesting.

So was there, this place is just this kind of stuff, though, confectionery type stuff, like snacks, that sort of thing? Or is it like a meal? Yeah, he does. He makes his own. He did some, also in the liquid nitrogen. He squirted some whipped cream out of a, you know, out of a cake spreader kind of thing. Oh, right, right. And, but he makes these special flavors.

The one we had was like pineapple. strawberry i think and uh and they were like little meringue uh stars they were really good he also reminds me it's like they're maranging everything is what this sounds like kind of certainly with the uh with the liquid nitrogen it kind of marangs everything yeah for sure the um uh he gave us some watermelon that has been vacuum frozen with um root beer what and that stuff is awesome too it still tastes just like well like still has the consistency of watermelon but it uh but it's got this root beer kind of flavor to it really he plays around with different different fruits different liquids to marinate him in that sort of thing is really

really cool he does they actually do a dinner thing there too you can go pay a hundred bucks per couple or hundred bucks per person and have like an eight course meal of like you know savory foods like steak and the sort of thing that's all done with a um all done with weird molecular gastronomy kind of stuff it's um it's totally worth it it's so cool and the the guy who runs this you can tell he just loves it he loves the science of it it's just him and his wife running this place and uh uh they just seem like the the coolest coolest couple so i assume you do reservations right it's not like people you do yeah yeah um Somebody found it a second ago.

I think it's T-L-R-D-V-R-Denver. T-I-R-Denver. T-I-R-Denver.com. T-R-A-Denver.com. Yeah, Jeannie found the link. Okay. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah.

That's really, really cool. So I had another question about it. What was it? Oh, yeah. Did you sneak in? Did you go, just if there was a moment of quiet, did you say, so how do you feel about that Johnny Depp version of that movie? Just to see what he says.

It's funny you say that. He actually brought it up. He said, when we were all lined up, when we were tasting stuff, he says, by the way, show of hands, can we all agree that the new version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory didn't need to be made? Oh, look at that. Shots fired. He's not a fan. Okay. Not a fan.

That's what I mean, that's what I would have expected him to say. It sounds like he's super hardcore into the original vision, which is totally fine. Not even the novel so much as he has into the, you know, okay. At any point, did he look at you and go, you lose? Do you ever say that? Good day. Sir. That never happened, okay.

Never happened, fortunately. But I also wasn't competing with everybody to not eat the things he was putting in front of me. Oh, I see. Did at any point the lights start flashing and he started going, Like going down a tunnel? We don't know where we're rowing and the thing has no idea where we're going. But the rowers keep on rowing and they're certainly not showing. Any signs that they are slowing.

So you know the real words. I know the real words. Some of them anyway. The point is, we've talked about it before, but I'm still, my childhood was traumatized by that scene and it continues to be. Yeah. There's like a, there's a rooster getting its head cut off or something in that scene. Like if they're going through the tunnel, there's like a, you know, a quick shot of a rooster

getting its head cut off, I think. Almost like subliminal, like insert two frames of something horrific kind of stuff going on. Right, right. I mean, you know, the whole thing, the character, Willy Wonka, he's kind of, he's not like this is not supposed to be this like warm and wonderful human being i think and genie points out and it completely accurate the book um the the the burton version of the movie is way closer to the book yeah than the jean wilder version which people did not want you know right it's like kind of it's like watching um oh gosh uh disney's hunchback of notre dame which i really like but then watching something

that's based on the real hunchback stories and you're like, oh, holy crap, go back to the nice one. I like the nice one better. It's a little like that. Right, exactly. Yeah, don't, the, Genie can confirm this.

Don't the kids die? Like, you know, Augustus Gloop and Varucasol, don't they die in the book? I think they... They don't come back at the end, walking out, like, all stretched out and silly.

I'm pretty sure they die, don't they? They don't, okay. Oh, they don't, she says. A resounding, all caps. No. I thought the little German kid that got sucked into the tube died.

No? I guess not. I thought all the bad kids died. You just don't see them at the end. I mean, a couple of them should have. Yeah. I'm just saying. That freaking Varuka salt in her.

I want it now. Come on. Right. A little brat. Yeah. I mean, the best thing ever came out of her was that band named themselves after her, but that's it. That's right. Exactly.

Well, that's cool, dude. If I'm ever at an opportunity to go there, I would totally do that. That feels like a Vegas thing, like something they should do in Vegas. Totally. And it's funny because he was talking about, um, they're opening like this is their original this is their only one currently but they're opening another one in Saudi Arabia of all places and it's like god you think that they would have gone somewhere else in the US Vegas would be a perfect place like stick this in that in that stretch that mall that you have to go through to get from uh planet hollywood to um Hawaiian village or whatever it is used to be used to be the Harley Davidson shop you have to go across the bridge but then you have to go through part of Planet Hollywood's mall right right something like that yeah I'm a little surprised Saudi Arabia I don't know why that shocks me just seems like I guess I have I have stereotypes of what that's like over there and it feels like maybe more repressed than would allow this kind of silliness but maybe not maybe I'm thinking like Dubai'd be the place to go Dubai is they don't care. Dubai would be Dubai would be illogical, right?

Because that's kind of like the Vegas of the Middle East. Yeah, they love that stuff over there. Yeah. I kind of want to go there before I die. I do too. You know, I see that because whenever we pause the Apple TV, you get all those cool screensavers, those slow motion hover shots. I don't know if you've got your set for that.

We do, yeah. In fact, I think every time a big city comes on, I always say, oh, I hope this is the one of Dubai. I know, exactly because the Dubai stuff, especially in slow motion with like the flickering lights and they've got their own like Belagio fountains in front of the the big hotel in the middle there. That's cool. Yeah, that's very cool.

Well, I'm sold. You've sold me. Tell those people that... Come to Colorado. Come to Colorado, Scott. Come to the inventive room. Are they... Wait, do they have accents?

Is that them? No, they don't. No. No, I think I was channeling the jerky boys. Come to Florida. The salt. Come to Florida. Your experience with the...

Jerky Boys is vastly greater than mine. It's, uh, it was, it was on repeat for such a long time that I can't get that garbage out of my head. Yeah. Well, there's a time where that was like. Yeah. They were the bomb. They were all anyone cared about.

But, uh, I don't know if we'd have a crank yankers or a punked or a, uh, you know, if it weren't for, uh, jerky boys. I think we probably would. Probably would. I think cranky anchors is back, right? They're doing new, uh, new content. Is it, uh, Jim Florinckers? Tino? I think so. I'm not totally sure about that. Pretty sure that's back, though. I saw some ad or something on Hulu, where they were like...

Everything old is coming back. Aren't we getting a new Daria and we're getting new Beavis and Budhead? We're getting new... Yeah. We're getting all that stuff. Getting a few things I want. Um, all right. Hey, well, that's all good news. Let's, uh, let's play a game today. I think we ought to give some prizes away if we can do it. I like that idea. I've got prizes to give away. The number you're going to want to have handy folks is 801. Sorry, 801 471.471062. That's the hotline to call to participate in today's Tad Pooley feud. And Brian Dunaway incoming to participate said feud with us. Oh, I got to get into the... That was that dumb.

I just crunched on that milkedad. I didn't masticate as loud on air as... No, Brian's a quiet masticator. I'm a quiet masticator. I'm getting a weird... The Tad Pooley feud thing's all busted for me. Oh, really? yeah like uh oh now maybe it's working okay oh okay it's working I don't know what happened

all right there's a buzzer it's working uh hey we're gonna push this button welcome to the program one Brian done away hello Brian oh hi one Scott and Brian how are you guys good man good we haven't seen you since Monday and boy howdy is it feel like a long time oh my god yeah it's like I talk to you guys every day. I feel like it's close. It would be a blessing if you talk to us every day. It would be a blessing.

I don't talk to anyone as much on the air as I do Ibit by far. Like we have this every day and then there's film sack and there's extra stuff and there's all this stuff all week long. Right. Well, Ibb is still trying to catch up with our 15 years of talking at least twice every week. Yeah. I think second place would be the core guys because of the D&D thing plus core. Oh, sure. Donaway right behind that.

You think they've still cut, like they've cut up to Dunaway all the ELR time? Oh, probably not. Probably not. I think Dunaway's, if Dunaway's not first because of all the ELR and the BLR and the Boobie. Well, if you count ELR and Final Score and Film Sack, yeah, that's, you're right. I think you're still, yeah, we're talking overall second place audio time on the air. Probably Brian Dunaway. Think of that.

Oh, nice. Think of that. You got lapped by Hibb. But I'm like working double triple. quadruple time by doing it every day. Yeah, yeah. Some of this is soundboard.

Right now, what you're hearing is actually not me. This is a recording. It's actually I press O. I threaten people at work all. I threaten people at work all the time. I will replace you with a script. Yeah.

I've gotten really good at it. I can just hit these buttons and it's like if it's here. It's really weird. Well, anyway, it's like, it's good to have you here. We're going to play this game.

Oh, I've got to take this phone call here from this listener. Let's find out who this is. Thanks for calling. Who's this? Hi, this is Matthew from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Oh, Baton Rouge. That's Red Stick, right? Is that what that means? That's right.

All right, cool. You know where I first heard that, and I can never not say it, is a very old 80s episode of late night with David Letterman. Somebody said they were originally from Baton Rouge, and Dave goes, oh, that's a red stick. And I've never got to not do it. Anyway, it's good to have you here. Let's play this game. Brian, will you explain? him how this works and what he can win. I will. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics.

Scott and Brian will have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Matthew, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes Verlet Swing, which is like a... It feels like first person in Spider-Man, like you're shooting a web and swinging on it and trying to get to a go point. Yeah, it was bugging me until you said it now, because I couldn't think of it now.

And I have played this game. It's very cool. It's cool. I watched some play-through videos today. I'm like, this looks kind of cool. And then I just love the name of this one, when ski lifts go wrong. Oh. Which feels like a physics.

Definitely got to be a physics game. Yeah, I think you're, that's a fair assumption on that. When ski lifts go wrong, you're going to wish you had the virulet swing. Anyway, so those will be your prizes if your team wins. But we need a topic. We need our feud boards. So hands on your buzzers. All right.

Oh, nice and warm. This buzzer is today. Go ahead. All right. We surveyed the Tadpool. 327 of them responded with their answer to this. What one pizza topping would make you turn. down a free slice.

Oh, dang it. Just missed it. Crap. Pineapple. People have that off me on this. It's got to be funny. Show me. Banana.

Number two. Number two, answer on the board. One answer will need it, Brian. There's only one thing hated more than the pineapple and the pizza and that's got to be anchovies, those salty little fishies. Get them off of there.

Yeah, get it off. Me anchovies. Number one answer on the board. Yes. By a massive margin. Yeah. They are gross. Those tiny salty fish of my pizza.

Yeah. So, Dunaway, you've got control of the board. I'm going to say, now again, even though I did get answers like a human teeth and whale sperm, stuff like that. They didn't make it to the board, right? They didn't make it to the board. These are things you would actually find on pizzas, thank goodness, in the top ten. I put whale sperm. And I did take out quite a few people.

Huh? I'll throw a little whale sperm on your pizza. Nothing. It adds a little salt, a little salt to it. Who? Enough people, by the way, said nothing would make them turn down a free slice that that actually was the number six answer. But I took that up because that's not the answer. All right. I agree. It's not a stupid answer.

All right. So we got the control of the board. That's right. You and Matthew, Brian, are working together. And we'll see what you can come up with. Matthew, can I call you Matt? Or do you prefer the whole thing? no Matt is just fine with me perfect Matt he's from red stick

he's easy yeah go ahead I'm some safe things but okay so I'm thinking I'm thinking maybe onions a lot of people are versed to onions or do you think maybe there's too many people who like onions that it might offset

I'm a big fan of onions myself but there are a lot of onion haters right there I think we go with it all right let's go with let's go with the gross red onions they always try to put on my pizza show me onions number five answer on the board yeah I to be honest and I'll say it right now there is nothing there's there there's nothing on this list that would make me turn down a free slice of pizza y'all are crazy I might pick the anchovies off but I would still take your slice it would be totally salty though all right so I've been watching I watched the recent

Brian Regan comedy special and he hates mushrooms apparently or doesn't care for them and he says they put them on everything what do you think mushrooms no go for a lot of people yeah that's what I was going to say

my wife will turn down any pizza with a mushroom on us that is my wife too oh my gosh what is wrong with people mushrooms are amazing I don't know what's wrong with my wife Louisiana oh yeah that's true our wives both from the south

there's probably that's it the American South hates mushrooms what's wrong with you guys You and your blanket statement. I love mushrooms. I will say a lot of people complain about them. It's like, oh, you got mushrooms on the pizza? I love them, man.

Mushrooms, final answer. All right, show me mushrooms. Yeah, well done. Number four answer. I just actually made, earlier this week, made grilled cheese sandwiches with grilled or sauteed onions and mushrooms in them. So, like, you put those on, like, little red vinegar. or a little balsamic vinegar

cook up the mushrooms and the onions and that and then put them on the cheese. That's impressive. You waited until we had both those on the board before he told that story. That is correct. Yes. Didn't want to give it away. Yeah, that's great. Now, a big fat, ugly mushroom

on a pizza. The thing my mom always ordered because, okay, so you know you have, usually have the mom who orders the peach and it's like, hey, everybody will put it up pepperoni. Everybody shut up. Every once in a while, she ordered what she wanted and she liked green olives and onions

now I don't think a lot of people like green olives or black olives on their pizza so I'm going to say olives what do you think is that a good answer Matt olives or got something better is there specific to green or black on the board or can we say olive question if I'm guessing Brian lumped them but I could be wrong

if there's enough on there then he would probably put those two together probably yeah lump your olives bump your olives Put them together in a jar and shake them up. Let's just say olives. Is that your answer? Olives?

Gone with olives. All right. Olives. Yes, absolutely. Number three on the board. It's funny, people either put olives or black olives. Nobody put green olives, like specifically put green olives, but I'm guessing a lot of the people who put just plain olives probably don't like the green.

Right. And the green olives are terrible purple ones. You know all the purple ones. I've gained a taste over the years for some olives. I can deal with it. Like, when I was younger, I've freaking hated that crap. But I can do, you know, a good pickled olive sort of thing on a stick. You know, it's all right.

It's okay. All right. So those are the big ones that I've had a life experience with. I'm trying to think of what other things that people might not like. What do you think, man? It got any more in your back pocket? That clears your first, what, five? So you got, like, whole, the bottom half.

So what if we go with maybe something more green, like some spinach? Oh, yeah, gross. Who wants spinach? Yes. My wife. Gross. A green spinach. owner of pizza.

All right. Show me. What are you trying to make your pizzas healthy? Get out of here. Show me, spinach. Oh, man. Okay. Where was it on the list?

Because some people did say spinach. It seems to be a more recent thing. Now, okay, so I got a question. Yeah. So if it had been leafy greens, you would have probably put them all together, right? I would have said, more specific, please. Okay. All right.

Um, okay. I wasn't prepared. I didn't think I would have to answer. I got to think of something weird, like, because everyone likes everything on their pizzas. All right, let's say, um, full-blown tomatoes, like, you know, sliced tomatoes. Oh, that's a good answer.

I didn't think about that, but yeah, people freak out about that crap. Yeah. Chopped up tomatoes, but not in the sauce. separate tomatoes. Yeah, and usually when it's cut, when they're sliced, it's worse because you get the stringy skin and it's just weird. It's not great. So I have to think tomatoes in whatever form.

All right. Show me tomatoes. Oh, wow, skirting in at the bottom. Look at that. Yeah, you've got to, you've really got, so basically with any pizza topping, you've got to get the moisture out. Yeah. That's why.

Right. And you can't, but you can't have anything too dry. mushrooms so I've worked at two or three pizza places over my life and one of them said you know we're going to try we're going to try actually using fresh mushrooms instead of the canned stuff and people hated it number one absolutely turn into jerky they do they're already so dry and they soak up all of the stuff around that and uh all the stuff around but they also turned into like little pieces of jerky we had to go back to the uh the canned uh pickled mushrooms and pizza.

Yeah. Yeah. I like the slime mushrooms. I prefer those. Totally. Slimy mushrooms. Okay. All right.

Oh, but anyway, the tomatoes add a lot of moisture as well if you don't get the little seeds and the, and the goo out of the tomato. Right. Right, right. All right. I'm going to say, um, uh, this is just going to be me, so I better not say that. Uh, let's do, uh, hot, hot peppers. Oh, that's a good answer. Hot peppers.

Yeah. Not green ones, but hot ones. Right. Show me hot peppers. Yeah, people are pretty specific about jalapinos. We had one person to say banana peppers, and I just kind of lumped all the hot peppers. Well, then you can't go to Papa Johns. Nope.

He gives you that whole thing. They stick it in the box. They don't put it on the pizza. Those great, I love peppercinis. Oh, I love them, dude. They're so good. Oh, my gosh. I get to eat them right now.

I never have to fight with anyone. for those either. Tina, Tristan. Nope. Nobody else was awesome. Yep. That's you, I think I have a great clip from him. Let's see. Yeah, here we go. He's never been in the pizza category. Yeah, never been in the pizza category.

Oh, wait. Here's his eating habits. I've had over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days. Oh, my Lord. Oh, is that the, that's Papa John? That's Papa about to explode into a pile of cheese, John. All right. Boy, I didn't think I'd be on the board. Let's see.

Yeah. Then you're winning so far. You're actually winning because tomatoes gave you 10 points being the number 10 answer. Right. Let's do, somebody probably said white sauce, right? Like something not marinero style. Like the Alfredo sauce kind of stuff? Yeah, I don't like that either much.

It depends. I guess there's some combos I like, but it's not my favorite. So I'll just say some kind of white sauce. Sure. Show me white sauce, not will. sperm. Damn it. Damn it. Yeah, I think margarita pizzas use a white sauce instead of a marinera-style pizza sauce. Right. Which I don't love. Yeah, I don't love those either.

Matt, I'll eat it. Yeah, I'll eat it. I'm not going to turn it down. Hell no. All right, back to the Brian and Matt team. Matt, we haven't even touched any of the meats yet except for, you know, yeah, gross. I know that my kids don't like the Italian sausage. They freak out when we talk about putting the pork on there. Oh, interesting. I see, I love Italian sausage. Me too.

Right. I do too. I'm like, just scoge all on my side. This list is obviously a lot heavier on very common topics. They're common topping, so I think Italian sausage would be a good way to go. Let's try it. All right. Let's try Italian

sausage or some kind of gross sausage meat. Pig nuggets. Show me. Show me some gross sausage meat. Yeah, I was surprised because I feel like, you know, that is one of the more controversial meats that you can put on pizza. Nobody said sausage. Interesting. Yeah.

I'm a little surprised by that too. All right. My brain isn't working because all I want to do is think of stuff that's, I don't know. Like other kinds of fruit or something, but no one's doing that. So no one's going to say bananas, for example. Oh, shut up. That's not a thing. Is that a thing?

That's not a thing. That's not a thing. I have no idea. Okay. I was like messing with you. Grossing me out. All right. I don't know.

The Canadian bacon. You know, the ham. The ham. Did we already lump that into pork, though? No, we didn't because that was. Sausage. All right, I'm going to say Canadian bacon like that thick, you know, not baking. Like the partner to the pineapple. Yeah. Oh, yes. Gross.

All right. Show me those slimy slices of Canadian bacon. Damn it. Oh. Wait. Okay. So. I'm surprised to not see that. For people's hate for pineapple being so high, Canadian bacon didn't even make the list. Really? Yeah. All right. All right. Well, the meat's thing didn't work out. How about we head back and run back screaming to like bell peppers. I mean, I noticed we had jalapinos, but we did, I don't see

bell peppers on there. I think we could put another pepper in there. Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah. Gross old peppers, man. All right. Show me gross old bell peppers. Yep, sure enough. Number six answer on the board. Nice. I like those. All right. Yeah. Tristan used to hate green pepper and bell pepper, but

he likes him now? He likes him now. Totally fine with him. Yeah. Right, right. The kids tend to turn a corner eventually. They do. They do. All right. Still your time, Brian. It's a tie game. I've got two answers left on the board. Number eight and number nine. Yeah, Matt, what do you think? Oh, man.

What do you think? I see it says green peppers. Right. There's a red pepper in there, too? Ooh. It's a possibility. Ooh. Hmm. Yes. Well, yeah, let's try.

Let's try the list. Unless Ibit says, you're fools. Red peppers. All right. Show me red peppers. You're fools. Ow. No red peppers.

Ah, crap. All right. That's down to this. Yeah. Uh. Oh, I know. My wife loves them. Oh, what are they called, though?

Lobsters. No, the fleshy little, um, it's a vegetable, it's like a, like from one of those purple, like from the penis fruit, uh, sorry, the penis fruit. What do you call it? The emoji, uh, the, what's that called? Oh, Arndichokes. This is fun. Artochokes. The, the penis emoji fruit or whatever. Yeah, artichokes. My wife loves those. She'd eat a whole bottle of those. Artichokes aren't they? Aren't they from the penis emoji? I thought it was the eggplant was the penis oh you're right you're totally right in my head it's not though it's the other thing but I also eggplant no go on my pizza

all right yeah well yeah but I'm going to say Brian I say I already forgot it again what is it the artichite artichoke yeah artichoke artichoke you're saying artichoke yeah all right show me artichoke

oh nice I know. I don't know what you guys are doing helping him. I know. I don't know. I'm just such a helpful person. I don't know why I did it. Oh, my gosh. Might have choked Dardy, but ain't going to choke stymie. Okay. Now, have I won no matter what? You've won no matter what.

Oh, man. Well, I don't love that because I like Matt. Snatch those prizes right out of Matthews' hands. Right off of his red stick. I don't like beating when it means the listener loses. All right. Let's think of one more. This is all, this is for all the barrels, all the monkeys.

Yep. Monkey meat. Oh. Okay, I got it. cheddar cheese. I have a cool. A different type of cheese. My brother likes cheddar cheese pizzas and they're horrendous.

How about feta cheese? We used to do, at one of the pizza places, we used to, same pizza place actually that tried the, the dry, or the fresh mushrooms. We would do a,

an all-cheese pizza that had a mix of mozzarella and cheddar. I think the right mix might be okay, but like pure cheddar? Sure. Not good. Sure. All right, well, show me. Let's see if enough people hated that.

Show me cheddar. No, game over. Yeah. Number eight, show me number eight. Oh, seafood. Oh, scrimps, shrimp. Some people said octopus, sardines. I put all that stuff, but shrimp all.

obviously. Some other big ones, durian, which is really big in oh, where is durian on pizza? Oh, it's that smelly Australia fruit, isn't it? That stinky fruit is Australia? No. Is that how you order it? I want

I want some of that stinky fruit. Give us the some pepperoni. Let's see here. Durian China. China has durian pizza. The pizza hut actually the pizza huts in China actually have durian pizza. Yeah, I can't imagine how that stuff smells when it's cooked. Yeah, it also looks so gnarly on the tree.

It looks like a big old... It looks like it's a chrysalis for like a giant worm's going to come out of there. It's really horrible. Yeah. Anyway. Some other things that people said, let's see here. Liver, I don't know where you can get liver pizza, but apparently you can. Pickles, beets, broccoli.

Eggplant was on the list, but not on the top 10. peanut butter. I've had peanut butter. I've had peanut butter and bacon on pizza and peanut butter and jalapeno on pizza. Both are really, really good. Cale, that's your highest leafy green vegetable. Sour cream, tuna, asparagus, banana. Oranges are apparently found on pizza. Cucumbers egg. That is popular in Australia's egg on pizza.

Impossible meat slash beyond meat. Ew. Is that being done? Are we doing that now? Is that a thing? Yeah, yeah, absolutely can't get impossible meat on there. A lot of people with stuff like rocks, rat, turds, pubic hair, you know, I just ignore all that.

Nobody, you know, when you put something like that, it's funny, but you only get one. Like nobody else is going to say the same thing. Right. No one's ever going to say rocks, unless there's a problem. Toasted coconut, somebody said. I've never had toasted coconut on pizza, but, yeah. Or soft-boiled duck. And I'm not a huge fan of the.

dessert pizzas, but I could see maybe a little toasted coconut on there, but not on like a savory pizza. Forget it. Yeah. I made a breakfast pizza back when Tristan was living here that my regular crust and then I cook some sausage and then turn the sausage into gravy, right? You had a little bit of, um, uh, was it baking? Not baking. You had the stuff that thickens at Argo stuff. Yeah. You make a gravy. That's the sauce. Then the sausage, bacon. You cook some eggs. You can't put the eggs on there raw. Scramble them, put them on top, and then cheese.

And this thing was fantastic. Sounds really good. Waited for dinner, and then we had it leftovers the next morning for breakfast. By the way. Thank you, linoid cornstarch. Kimchi is amazing on just your basic pepperoni pizza. It's really good on there. Kimchi is good everywhere, except in my belly where it upsets it greatly.

Yeah. Yeah. If you can handle the kimchi, though, put it on all things. That's what I say. And we picked up white kimchi yesterday. which is the cabbage is a it's just not red it's weird looking but it apparently is really good we'll try it out this weekend and let everybody know how we feel well Matthew here's the bummer you didn't win however you won our hearts over just by being you there's always a chance

in the future how do you feel about your great defeat your great defeat oh I'm going to take my defeat in stride I'm just happy to play with you guys I've been listening to you guys for years since before TMS and TLR. So this is my first chance I've had to call in the show. I've just recently started working from home. So it's been a pleasure. Well, that's awesome. I'm really glad to hear that.

And I'm glad that we did get to finally hang out. And I hope we get to again in the future. Take care down there because it looks like you're already getting weird hurricane stuff off the coast. And I hope none of it hits you. I was noticing that this morning. There's already like some big system swirling up. It's freaking June, man. It's too early for hurricane season.

What are we doing? What are we doing here? That's a weird planet of ours. We started this early. We're going to run out of letters again. We're going to have to go to the Greek alphabet. Stop it. This one's called,

we'll be called Elsa, which means we're going to get internet memed to death with frozen bullshit. Oh, of course. Yes. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if I'm ready for that. Anyway, enjoy the climate. What else?

Hey, Dunaway, we're done with you. You're not going to be here this weekend because we're not doing film sack this weekend. It's a holiday weekend. It's the 4th of July. I got a family reunion. Everybody's going every which way. So it ain't happening. But if they want to get some good content,

there was still the boop show this week. And it was great. We had a great time. So I'm going to listen to that. Anything else you'd like to mention? Promote or push? Yeah, man. Tomorrow night is the weekly get-together.

Me and Kit London, we play the graveyard keeper. If you'd not follow in that, we do it every week. We've been doing it for, I don't know, months now. But at 5.30 Eastern time, If you tune in to Twitch.tv. 4.S. Brian Dunaway will be playing more of that. Stardue Valley like, but with graves.

Yeah, star Dvalley, but murdery. Not murder. You don't really kill anybody, but you deal with a lot of death. Murdery, Star Dube Valley. Yeah, that sounds right. No, you're just burying the dead bodies and hiding them. And also, you know, creating some zombies who could do some work for you. You know, typical Star Doo Valley stuff.

Yeah, nothing weird about any of that that you just said. Anyway, go check it out. Brian Dunaway, have a fan. fantastic rest of your week. We'll see you soon. No, you. Bye. Have a fantastic voyage. Indeed. Chat room's already doing the Elsa jokes. Lots of let it go jokes.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's good stuff. Do you want to board my windows? Oh, man. I hope it isn't bad this early in the year. I just don't know that we can all take it. We need whatever. The Gulf or the, yeah, the Gulf of Mexico is just a whirling dervish man. so get ready batting down the hatches it's only june well it'll soon be july so i guess maybe we can stop saying it's only june all right uh that's gonna be it for that what time is it oh we got time for one news story one news story enjoy

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Peace and love. Yeah, he's, uh, you know, he's at one beat. And I'm warning you with peace and love. Stop sending me things. It's a good way of putting it. Ringo Star has stopped or dropped his legal battle against Ring O penis rings. Yeah, that's right. You heard me.

Yeah. Penis rings. If you're penis rings, go get a looked at. Better answer it. Yeah, better answer that call. Beatles drummer legend Ringo Star has dropped his legal battle against screaming-oh pleasure products that sell a line of Ringo penis rings. Or Ringo, but not Ringo. Anyway, he filed the suit against the company in 2019.

It's only been a couple of years. Objecting to the name of the penis rings. in his complaint, Ringo Starr claimed that the brand was, quote, identical in apparent sound connotation and pronunciation to his own name. Consumers will likely believe that the, that Opposers' newest venture is sex toys. And this is an association Opposer does not want. Opposer, I guess is his, what, music brand or something? Or his whatever personal brand. Though most mentions of the Ring-O brand.

In the legal document, he's the Opposer. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay, I get it now. I thought it was like a poser's brand, like the brand. Right, right, right, like my new record label, Opposa. Yeah, the Poser Records. A poser.

Peace and love from Opposor Records. I was in Thomas the Tink Engine. All right. Wasn't he? Was he in Thomas the Tank Engine? Ringo Star? Yeah, yes he was. Yeah, he was the engineer.

Right, right? Yeah, I have that right. It's not a weird thing. You have that right. No, it was Ringo Star. It was like Ringo Star and then didn't the movie. movie have like Alec Baldwin and or am I thinking something different

Or when did a comedian Um Uh Seven deadly Yes George Carlin was something for a while Is it that same thing? He was also He was a narrator

Okay So they both had that job at one point or another Those two Yeah Okay And then caveman Who can forget Forget caveman

That's right Oh caveman Caveman We watched that for film sec It was great When you started in the theaters, it came with a sheet of paper that translated the caveman talk. But you're in a dark movie theater. How are you going to look at it?

I love that. I love that that ever happened. So dumb. Yes. Well, anyway, he's finally dropped it because they use this. There's no ring go. It's ring O, which I know. Ring O.

Whatever. But the hard fought battle was now reaching a happy ending. Oh, loud. wire.com. That's great. Settlement has been made between the two parties, with the penis ringmakers promising they will avoid any activity likely to lead to confusion between their product and Ringo Star. The deal adds that the name can only be used for the adult sex aides and desensitizing sprays and must include a space between ring and O.

There you go. They also shouldn't use the catchphrase, baby you can drive my dong. Oh. Baby you can drive my dong. what's one of the ones he's saying like um uh octopus's garden i can't i can't come up with anything for octopus's garden that would work for a penis ring i'm stuck i'm i'm completely flummoxed by that one yeah i've never hit a wall like this before i cannot find one yellow submarine got nothing i've got nothing for yellow submarine that would go with penis ring

it there's it just doesn't uh there's nothing did he ever sing or write any song that wasn't kind of buy with little help for my friends i got nothing that one's all right Yeah, none of these fit. They just don't fit. Yeah. What would you do if I put on a ring? Would it add to the excitement and fun? I get by with a little help from this ring.

Right. All right. Well done. That's our story. Perfler, well done. Come together. That is the tagline. The slogan that the ring of penis rings should not be able to use it.

Yeah, they can never use that. All right, well, we're done now with our one new story. Thankfully, we got that one out of the way. Let's take a break. A little help from this ring. There you go. Well done, Claire. Well done.

Tom Merritt will be here coming up. So will Nicole's bag coming up. So stay tuned after this song presented by Brian Ibitt. Yes. Let's go to North Carolina. Just up the way from Brian Dunaway, a state north. This is a band called The Collection. And they've got a brand new song called Loud.

This is something that they wrote in response to just like the political unrest of late 2020 and early 2021, but it isn't overt. You could listen to this thing and not have any idea that that's what the subject matters about. It's a great song, kind of a little bit. Oh, who is that? Not the 303. Who did the song, crashing cars? Rock Hudson. Or chasing cars.

Jennifer Beals. it. Anyway, all right. I realize I'm asking the wrong person. Anyway, just seeing if anyone throws the answer. Snow Patrol. Thank you, Claire Gack. These guys have kind of a snow patrol kind of sound to him. Dishwall is counting blue cars, but yeah, totally, totally you saw the thing I was putting down there, Talia.

Anyway, these guys are from Saxe, North Carolina, Indie Pop. Here is the collection, and their song, Loud. I've been pressing my breath for a while until the end is apparent. I've been pressing my lips to a smile, just try to grin and bear. Because every time that they open up, you can see that. I got a fury that I cannot control yet. I am not sure how much longer I can just sit in silence. I want to hear you getting loud.

Capize me with the sound. Why don't you open up your mouth? Come and shake me down to the ground. Because sometimes it takes your age a little to make the damn calm crashing down. I want to hear you getting loud. loud, loud. Trade my voice for a hope that things would just change without me.

Then every single time that I spoke, the words would just be, I'm sorry. And then I would get buried under others' opinions. And I have to rearrange my life just to fit them I want to sing, want to sing the melody I want to hear you getting laughed Capsize me with the sound Why don't you open up your mouth Come and shake me down to the ground

Because sometimes it takes a rage and river To make the damn come grass down. I want to hear you getting loud, loud, loud. If you really want me, want me completely, if you really want me completely. How much longer I can keep it down I want to hear you getting loud Capsize me with the sound Why don't you open up your mouth Come and shake me down with the ground

Because sometimes there's rays and river To make the damn come crashing down I want to hear you getting loud loud, loud, loud. I want to hear you getting loud, loud, loud, loud. I want to hear you getting loud, loud, loud. Cat women are not contained by the rules of society. You follow your own desires. This is both a blessing and a curse. Frontal nudity.

The morning stream. The sugar and cream in your coffee. Aw. All right, we return. Welcome back to the program. That song again is loud by The Collection. Very nice. Let's bring a birthday boy Tom Meriden here.

Yeah. Boy, he looks older, doesn't he? Wasn't today, but it was... His pillow emoji behind him looks a little older. It looks another year older. Just another year older. But wiser. But wiser.

My favorite beer. But it's also wiser. Yeah, my butt is wiser. With a computer as with any. tool. The concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt, and he joins us as he does every Wednesday to talk tech in the morning. And Tom, first of all, and foremost, happy birthday on Monday. We're glad to have you for yet another rotation around this planet. Nicely done. Thank you. Thank you. It's good to be the same age as you for the next couple

weeks. Yeah, Tom and I are exactly the same age for like two weeks. And then, nope. The magical, magical fortnight, we call it every year. Two weeks. That's how long I've had my luggage with me. Anyway, hey, it's good to have you here. We're going to talk about some tech items of the day, because that's what we do on Wednesdays, and today should be no different. So what is percolating out there in the world of tech? Yeah, so you get a full explanation of this yesterday on DTNS, but did you all hear about the Western digital wipeout? No. Oh, everybody with a MyBook, right? Yeah. Not everybody, but using the online. Correct. The old version, specifically, the MyBook Live. There's a newer version called the MyCloud,

Live. If you have the MyCloud Live, you're fine. Totally different code base. You're not vulnerable. Okay. You know, you may not be fine forever because it's technology, but it's not going to be vulnerable to these things. The MyBook Live is a network attached storage device that went out of service in 2015. Now, I don't say that to let Western Digital entirely off the hook, but it's important to remember that in 2015, six years ago, Western Digital said, hey, y'all, we've stopped supporting these. And they gave notice before 2015. So use at your own risk, we're not going to patch them anymore. They might get bugs. And a lot of people just said, well, it seemed to work fine. I'm going to keep using them. In 2018, a critical vulnerability was discovered that allowed remote code execution.

So that's something where somebody could scan for an IP address. If they get the right IP address for my book, they could take control of it, which is great ground for botnets. Somebody scans around, finds some MyBook devices, gets into them, gets root access, installs their malware, and no one knows. No one knows the difference. Everybody's using their MyBooks just fine, but it is also secretly passing along data as part of a botnet. The botnet people are happy.

You don't notice the difference. And that's the way those vulnerabilities go. Now, they are usually patched, but again, as I said, Western Digital, stopped patching these and told everybody, we're not going to patch these anymore. You probably shouldn't use them. but what Western Digital did not do is turn off the cloud servers they said look

and again this is one of those things you do in 2015 like we know some of you are going to take a little longer to migrate off of these so we're going to leave those cloud servers up and they left them up they're still up you can still connect to the cloud server and that led to what they call a zero day vulnerability

that's a vulnerability that nobody knew was there until it got exploited and that is the one that seems to have been used to wipe out devices last week. Suddenly, everybody got up in the morning and found that their My Book Live NAS devices were wiped out and they couldn't log into them anymore. Their passwords had been reset. Here's where it gets weird. The 2018 vulnerability seems to have been taken advantage of in these devices to install a botnet malware, like I explained. However, if you were installing a botnet,

you probably wouldn't go wipe the device for multiple reasons. One, it calls attention to the fact that you're in there and you secretly want to be in there. You don't want anybody to know. And second, it wipes out your bot. It wipes out your malware and you no longer can use it for your botnet.

So the theory is that it's warring factions on the internet, trying to disrupt each other's bot nets, and somebody else figured out how to get into these NASD devices in using the zero-day vulnerability, which all it could do was wipe out the device without a password.

Side note, the reason that vulnerability existed is the code in the Western digital devices that requires a password before you wipe it out remotely had been commented out. Oh. Oh. At some point, someone commented it out,

so that code was there but didn't execute, didn't work. So, again, again, anybody could have wiped it out remotely if they knew where to look. So, you know, to sum up, using out-of-support devices meant that people were silently, probably involved in a botnet, and then botnet on botnet violence caused someone else to discover another vulnerability. And in order to wipe out the competing botnet, also wiped out all the data on all of these Western

digital devices. Wow, it is like watching a little war from the sidelines or something. but it's a war we just don't understand. We don't know why they're doing it. Okay, so here's my larger... Botnets are usually rented out, right? I rent out a botnet to somebody if they want to send spam

or doing a distributed denial of service attack or whatever, right? And so somebody else wanted their business. And like, we can steal their business if we wipe out their botnet, so they go and try to disrupt it. Yeah, Tony Soprano at... Yeah, exactly. So here's my larger question.

I would have never have guessed, if you'd ask me, hey, Scott, what do you think is a hot point for botnets and large array situations created by a bunch of hardware that's no longer being supported? I would have never thought about an online service that's used to backup NASD drives for Western Digital specifically. How big is it? Is it bigger than I, I guess it's bigger than I thought it was? Western Digital is huge, I suppose. Like, I just seems shocking to me that this is that big a deal from a basically as a consumer backup device. yeah that's a really good point and you need to think of it this way any internet connected device that has storage can be a vector for a botnet if i'm running a botnet i'm not looking for western digital my book live nas devices i'm looking for any device i can get into western digital my book live your internet connected video camera your uh your phone uh your computer your laptop absolutely

anything you can get into, you're going to stick your malware on and hopefully attach to the botnet because you want scale. You want as many devices as possible. So they're not looking for this device. They're looking for as many vulnerable devices as possible, which is why it's so important to make sure that anything you connect to the internet, your laundry machine, your toaster, your garage door opener is secured so that it won't be hosting these things. So the lesson is all of that that you just said is a good part of the lesson for us. But isn't there a larger lesson for people like Western Digital or makers of these Internet of Things devices, whatever they may be, when they're not going to support a thing anymore,

maybe you've got to pull the whole deal down and give them a death date. Like, we're not going to support it, A, and B, servers go down eight months from now, so you have plenty of time to do whatever you're going to do, move up to either our new platform or, you know, whatever you're going to do to take care of your stuff, then yank the whole thing. Like, to me, that seems like the lesson. You can't just leave it up there. Sure, that makes perfect sense. What do you think happens in 2015 with no actual threat and no actual vulnerabilities being exploited if they tell the Western Digital My Book Live customers that they're going to do that?

They'd be pissed and mad. Yes. Everybody goes like, ah, you should never buy cloud devices because they'll just pull the service. I thought I was going to be able to rely on this device. I own this device and now I can't use it. happened over and over and over again. So Western Digital is trying to threat the needle of like, all right, fine, listen, we warned you. This is on you now.

We're not going to pull our cloud servers and we'll keep our cloud servers secure. And the cloud servers do not appear to have been compromised in any of this, but the rest is now on you. And so it's a no-win situation if no-one takes responsibility. Right. I think you basically answer my question. What else were they going to do? Like that is the only thing they really could have done. And they did it.

And so now they're going to be people mad that that's how it was handled instead. But they'd have been just as pissed or more had they yanked it. It's just a question we're going to happen with Sonos. Sonas was going to brick all those speakers and everybody like, outrage, outrage. And now Sonas like, all right, fine. We'll put them in a maintenance mode. The thing that Western Digital could have done is continue to provide security patches. Say like, okay, we're not selling these anymore.

We're not supporting them. We're not going to add features anymore. but we'll continue to patch them for security, but that's costly. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, and the other thing, the larger question for me is we're now hitting kind of the timeline for end of service

for a lot of things that were super innovative in their early days, had their long tail, and now are going to go away. And I think about this in video games all the time. You're a big MMO and you did real well, but now you're going to shut things down. Well, what does that mean? There's people invested years of their life in years,

game. Do you owe them something? Do you not owe them something? Like, there's just these questions. Or preservation. Like, there are certain, again, I go back to games, but there are games that rely on servers to do what they do, 100% rely on them. And they're coming now. We're getting to a point where that stuff's coming end of life. And the game is no longer, even if you have a physical copy, no longer usable unless those services exist. And it's just kind of a moment of reckoning. Players and consumers have to just sort of go, oh, That's how this is. Like, this isn't like when I would buy Mario Kart back in the S&S days where I kept that cartridge until it died.

Like, I'm at the behest of these servers and these systems and the security involved with that. And that's just, it's a whole new way of thinking of this stuff. And I'm just not so sure we're ready for it. And we don't have, we don't have standards. We don't have like, well, it's always been this way, right? Because everything is still fairly new. Nobody looks at their cable subscription. and when a cable service, you know, when a television channel goes off the cable, they're like,

wait a minute, you can't take that away from me. I paid for it for years. I am invested in watching it. We're used to that. We're like, oh, yeah, channels go away. Sometimes even whole cable systems go away. It's just the way it is. It's ephemeral. But yeah, people don't think of video games that way. Certainly, they don't think of cloud service is always that way either. Yeah, well, it's interesting stuff, and there'll be more on this all the time on the 80th Tech News show. because when stuff happens like this. You guys report it. You're there on the scene.

Hey, Tom Merritt, anything else going on this week that you would like to find folks at home to latch on to and enjoy? Yes, latch on like a baby. To my newsletter? Yeah, latch on. The nipple of newsletters. Three Tom's nipple.

I'm really going to stop with the metaphor right there. Hey, I've got a newsletter, free tomnewletter.com, where I tell you all the cool things going on. Like right now, today I'm working on Know a Little More. I'm working on a Know a Little More episode about lithium ion batteries. And if you want to know when that's out, you need the free Tom newsletter. I'll tell you all the shows that I do every week, the projects that I'm working on. In fact, the big thing this past week, and I'll put it in the newsletter again this week, is a link to my writer's Patreon where you can get the first chapter of my upcoming. audio book Project Vera before anybody else gets a chance to listen to it.

So if that alone is worth the price of admission, which is free, so pretty much anything would be worth the price of admission at freetomnewsletter.com. Fantastic. Tom Merritt, Ace Detect on Twitter, of course. Have a fantastic rest of your week, and we'll see you next time. See, Tom. Thanks, man. Oh, and I'll be on DT&S later. I should have mentioned that.

Hey, Brian, I got a thing to show you. I almost forgot. Yeah, show me. So Brian, or... Put it in our Discord? Yes. And I'll put chat, you can see it too. I'm trying to do this more often.

I'm starting to make things for my friends instead of just, you know, we all buy everything we need anyway. It's like, why do we buy everything, right? Your present is going to be bought, so whatever. Yeah, it's totally fine. I'm just talking about me. Actually, it's already bought. You know what? I can even show you.

Totally from me, by the way. This is not, I'm not ascribing this to anyone else. Your present is right here. Oh, I can't even tell what it is. Oh, it's paper. All right. I'm in. Send me a pile of paper.

Oh, look at you all ahead of. time. Well, anyway, I put this in the thing as you can see it. A chat room, you can see it as well. So this is basically... That is so cool. I made Tom a fake 1940-style movie poster called Ace Detect.

Because that's what it's all based on. He loves that whole... I love that font. Yeah. Marr, whatever. It's got cool recommendations like Tom Merritt in the role of a lifetime, Variety Magazine. Non-stop action, Hollywood Weekly. Move over, Bogart. There's a new leading man and Tam, Vanity Fair.

And then all this fake shit down to the bottom, produced by D.T. Ennis. I like the Nintendo's steel of quality on the bottom. Look who produced it, though. D.T. Ness. Get it? D. T.N.S. A D.T.N.S. Yeah.

And then directed by Eileen Rivera, of course, because she's in charge whatever at the house there. And then a bunch of fake shit at the bottom. But anyway, it was a lot of fun to make. And happy birthday to Tom. Very cool. Yeah, I still love my modoc. Oh, yeah. You're modic. That's right.

You're modic. All right. Let's do, let's do, what are we doing? Oh, Nicole. We're doing Nicole. Nicole, well, we're having Nicole on the show. Let's clarify what's going on here. Yeah, let's clarify the clarification with the clarity.

Let's see here. We got her coming in hot, which means it's time. Does to clarify something mean to soak it and gin? Yeah, or undock it. It might be undock it, yeah. Soak it and gin, then undock it. Hey, everyone, look up my locket. All right, enjoy this.

Oh, Nicole. My sweet Nicole. Hey, everybody. Look who it is. It's Nicole Spagg, joining us for Recommendals as she does every Wednesday. Hello, Nicole. I was like, oh, crap. It's Wednesday.

Yeah. What do I watch? Yeah, what do I watch quick? Welcome to the show. It's good to have you here. How was your week? Thanks. Everything going good?

Doing all right. Everything's fine. It's summertime. Yeah. I've gotten. up at 5.30 the last two mornings to go to swim meets. Oh. Yeah. Nice. Who's

swimming? I assume Mateo's swimming? Mateo is. Yeah. Fun. I remember doing that when I was his age. Not very well, but he's improving on his time. That's all we're focusing on. You're improving on your time. That's good. No, that's awesome. I used to love swim stuff when I was a kid like that. So very, very cool. Well, it's good to have you here. We're going to dive right in, get right to our

recommendals. And we always start with you, Brian. You have a setup for this here clip. I guess you got two today, but one's more verbal. You know, I'll get to the verbal one first because Tina and I started watching Kevin can F himself. This is a new AMC series starring Annie Murphy, who, you know, as Alexis from Schitts Creek. It is... I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit. Sorry. The premise is like, is a, she's a housewife or a housewife, she's a wife to a real buffoon of a guy.

she herself works in a liquor store takes place up in Worcester Mass and the show goes back and forth harshly between four camera sitcom with a laugh track and breaking bad style drama

like basically when the husband's in the room and the other people in the room it's a four camera laugh track like ah honey you got a cockroach the souffle. Reminds me of what is it? Kevin that everybody...

Kevin can wait. No, is that... Well, it's... No, it was about the Scientology woman. Oh, Kevin. King of Queens. King of Queens. King of Queens. And it's funny because it's kind of loosely

based on that with the fact that there was another person in the show that died and they completely wrote them off and never talked about them again between season one and season two. Oh, we're here. Oh, no, I'm sorry, that was Kevin Kenway. It was Kevin's wife that died between seasons one and two

and it never like they never brought, that her brought her up again. Why? The actor did or did the character did? That's right. The cast, the cat, like the, the characters never bring her up again. Right, but was it because, was it because the actress died or the character died? The

actress died? Oh, I can't remember. Maybe the, maybe the character died. I don't think the show was doing well, so they got her off and got the Scientology chick. Lear Remedy. No, that's, that's, oh, that is Kevin Kweight, right, not King of Queens. No, that's the thing.

It's like they rebooted King of Queens with Kevin Can Wait. It was weird. Oh, I don't remember any of that happening. That's insane. All right. Pumba, Pumba. Okay, all right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it was like the show was doing bad, so let's get rid of the wife. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay, so it's, uh, Leah Remini was on both of those with, uh, what's his face? Kevin Hart, Kevin, Hart, Kevin James, uh, Kevin James.

Kevin James. Kevin James. Anyway, this show, not, uh, kind of just like loosely connected out or loosely inspired by that. Yeah. The, the premise is great and it's handled beautifully. Like, as soon as, as soon as, as, as soon as, the buffoon of a husband leaves the room and the door closes, it turns into like a

stark breaking bad looking single camera drama focusing on her life and how she is miserable and wants out. But then when he's back in the room, it's like a, oh, Kevin, you silly husband kind of thing. But I mean, there's, you know, murder and a murder being dreamed about and stuff like that. It's on AMC. What's the name again? It's called Kevin Kenneff himself. Tina and I watch the first two episodes. Usually we give it three episodes. Tina was done after two episodes because aside from Annie Murphy, her character, and she's fantastic on this, by the way. Oh, I love her. She's great. What's funny is on the sitcom part of the show, the Boston accent is really like, hey, you, what's a wicked pizza here? Yeah, you know, that sort of thing. But then it becomes a little bit more realistic when it's the single camera drama. The, the, yeah, first two episodes, there's just nobody we really like on the show except for Annie Murphy's character.

And that makes it really hard to watch. Yeah, yeah. Does she ever say, you, David? Ew, David. I knew that was coming. No, she doesn't. She doesn't. It's just weird hearing her with that Boston accent.

Anyway, so it's, it's, I don't know, it's a cautious macamental. I'm going to give it one more episode. I'm going to watch it without Tina because she's done. But I'm not 100% sure that this goes anywhere beyond the really clever premise, the really clever idea of the half sitcom, half drama show. Well, the reviews are definitely mixed. They really are. Yeah, I mean, people either love it or hate it.

There's an interesting one here. It says, what's see, where is that? Where did I find it? Oh, it says it squaw. Oh, this is interesting quote. AMC's Kevin can F himself squanders a thrillingly subversive premise. So it sounds like the premise is rock solid, awesome idea, but it doesn't quite pull it off in the long haul. There's a little bit of a Wanda Vision kind of quality to the sitcom within a show idea.

It feels, you know, that's probably the closest thing to compare it to that we've seen recently. But it's really weird Or the natural born killers The Ronnie Dangerfield moments Where that part of this horrible movie This is this dark and twisted movie Is a comedy with a laugh track When Ronnie Dangerfield is on screen

Forget about that scene Is she kind of putting herself in that sitcom Because she's trying to deal with the trauma of It's unclear It's unclear? It's unclear? Yeah, at least after two episodes, you know, if it was, that seems like something you would put at the very end of episode one, that she is somehow putting herself in that role so that she can deal with this horrible life that she's in.

But after two episodes, they hadn't really explained if that's a conceit, if that's a, a subtle awareness that the character has, or if it's just, no, we thought it'd be fun to make it half sitcom, half trauma. It would be better If that character is somewhat aware of it Yes, whether she's doing it subconsciously or on purpose So interesting Anyway I can't quite tell what It's the kind of thing where as soon as I saw the trailers for it

I was like oh I want this because I really like her Now I don't know based on what you're saying Yeah Yeah so I'm going to give a couple more episodes Are they all out or are they still No it's still a week to week and so you can't really binge it yeah all right um you may want to change our uh locations got because i think nicole's getting out of no she just she just was talking over you and you were talking over her you

talking about her delaying you mean her her video delay yeah oh it is with delayed yeah i don't know why this all of a sudden we're having problems with my internet either it's really weird because it delays your video to uh oh now she's no you're back to normal now say something i don't have one option for Wi-Fi. Nope, I think you're fine. I think you're fine. Oh, you're on Wi-Fi? That might be part of it. Hey, tell Mark to run another cable, the lazy turn. Quit uploading his, like,

how to stand a board video. Yeah, lame. Nobody cares. Hey, I do know, I just want to, I just want to address. I know Leah Remy. She's anti-Scientology. Yeah. That's how I, like, connect her. Yeah, she was, she did that

psychology. Yeah, she did the whole book about growing clear or something, right? Well, no, going clear is a separate doc. this shirt her thing was called crap it's on netflix but it's same kind of thing and she she goes scientology down i don't know she used to be a part of it now she wants everyone to hate it so exactly um all right brian tell us about your real with alison mac in the nexium cult no she might she's about to get uh what do you call it uh uh sentenced that's like today oh alison mac is yeah oh wow funny you brought that up because i think it's uh let me see

if it happened yet uh need to know alison mac faces prison times it was a sentencing looks like today. She'll be in courthouse in Brooklyn today. We'll see what happens. Wow. Yeah.

All right. Don't look for a big smallville. The people in Scientology. Well, yeah. But don't look for her to be part of a smallville reunion. That's all I'm saying.

Okay. Or for her to be part of a John Hodgman commercial where she goes, I'm a Mac. Yeah. And I'm a PC. That'll never happen.

All right. Let's get to my actual recommendal. This is an audio clip. This is a series on HBO, the final episode of which just went up. So now you can binge the whole thing

and that's the best way to watch it. Fantastic. I'm going to play this clip and you guys will hear it yourselves. Here you go. He's had emotional outbursts. Impulse control problems. Depression. Threats of violence.

Carla, come on. The facts are the facts. There was one significant physical altercation. Do you want to tell her about that? that's okay what we need to know is what now is he a danger to himself can he be left to care for himself or does he need additional assistance

and it's four sessions court mandated four sessions one of several conditions of colin's release if he fails to meet any of the requirements of his probation your sign-off included it would be revoked but we're not going to let that happen Right? No idea.

No idea. Yeah. So the person you're hearing doing the talking there, most of the talking is Tessa Farminga. The person you don't hear as much in there, you hear her very, very briefly, is Uzo Aduba from Orange is the New Black, Crazy Eyes. Oh, I love her. Suzanne, as she became better known as the series went on when they got rid of the Crazy Eyes, moniker. She is the new therapist. on the show in treatment.

This is a show. This was a series on HBO that started with Gabriel Byrne and Diane Weist and was so, so good, those first three or four seasons. And it kind of disappeared for a while. They have brought it back. And the way the show is done, you get, it's 24 half-hour episodes. and it's basically four different sessions or four different people that she's having sessions with week after week. So it's like you're seeing six weeks of her having sessions with four different characters or groups of characters and helping them out. The last one, as it was with Gabriel Byrne was him getting helped out by his therapist who was Diane Weist.

um what was that uh it was that uh it was uh it was so i thought that's an alarm well it's Nicole's hearing something locally not Brian right right all right uh but like the you know the early seasons had folks like hope Davis and um uh I'm trying to remember who some of the other actors were in the the first couple seasons it was so good this fourth season uh now it was Uzu-Aduba is the therapist, and she's got one guy who you hear here is a former tech CEO who had some sort of altercation and is coming out of prison and might go back if he doesn't, if he seems like he's not a danger. You've got another woman who is a young lady who's getting brought there by her grandmother because she's choosing to be a lesbian, as her grandmother puts it. you've got another guy who is the actor who played the son of Hamilton

and was also in the in the Heights thing that I recommend told a couple weeks ago and her his story is really cool he's kind of a caretaker for a disabled a physically disabled person anyway in treatment it's all the seasons have been amazing and this fourth season is no exception. It's really, really good. You get these really great conversations between these characters and Uzo Duba is doing a great job of kind of filling that Gabriel Byrne, that Diane Weist role

of of being the therapist. Really, really good. Yeah, if you've never seen any of this, I would recommend watching all of it, too. It's all good. Like the original seasons, like you said, are awesome. Just go binge the whole damn thing. It's very, very good. And like Brian said, the episodes are short and you'll just get hooked in. It's really good. And what's cool is you can do this. I don't know if I'd do it myself. But if you watch the first week and you're like, well, I really care about this person and this person, you can just choose to watch the sessions she has with just one or two of the patients that she has. So there's, you know, because it's bingeable and you can, you can, you can, you can,

pick and choose, you can actually just watch six weeks of her sessions with Colin or or Leila or whoever. Sure. She is, by the way, almost unrecognizable in this role. She doesn't look like crazy guys. Yeah, compared to how she licked in Orange is the New Black for sure. Yeah. That's crazy.

She just really inhabited a whole new character there. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to mention one of our favorite guys, Joel Kinneman is in this new season as well. Oh, what's his? Really? That's an interesting role for him. It is. he's not one of the people being treated.

He's in kind of a tertiary role. All right. He's helping the suicide squad get through the mission. That's right. Exactly right. All right. He's the new Robocop. You got to do what you got to do.

That's right. All right. Well, very good. Looks like one I would definitely like to catch up on. I'd forgotten that there was a new bit coming for that. Yeah. All right. Here's mine.

Hey, everybody. It's a feel good throwback. So strap in. Not a documentary. I may have spent a lot of time with a little two-year-old in the last week and this might reflect that. So, enjoy.

Ah, no. Oh. Stay back. Don't come any closer. Please, don't. What are you doing? Ah, ha, ha, ha. No, please don't.

That tickles. No, get off. Get off. Get off. All right. Any guesses? I don't know, but why is she telling this person to get off? Well, you know, I wonder. It is, is it

Milan? Incorrect. It is Tarzan. Disney's Tarzan. Fantastic animated feature film Tarzan. Came out in 1999 and everyone's seen it probably, at least I've seen it a billion times when my kids were small. They love this movie.

But Van loves Tarzan and he sits there motionless and watches it from top to bottom and loves the music he can't get enough of what's his name singing Phil Collins yeah he's all about the Phil Collins I'll be in my heart but anyway

he loves it and just gets so excited when cool stuff happens I'd forgotten how great Lance Hendrickson is as the character Kerchek who is this who's the big giant gorilla that's sort of ahead of the pack he's the he's the alpha and uh mini driver plays jane she's great as jane i never i don't really

know who totally tony goldwin is i'm sure he's done other things but he's tarzan but all sorts of great voices like brian blessed plays clayton the bad guy's amazing bad guy so good Nigel hawthorne is professor porter like these great actors doing really great work wayne knight uh freaking newman in there is the is the elephant and um who else rosy o'Donnell's in it a whole bunch of people anyway I think it's one of my favorite Disney movies. I don't even know why. I really actually think it might be that soundtrack from Phil Collins. I think it's actually legit good and some of my more favorite tracks from him,

even though it's associated with what is essentially a kid's Disney movie. But I like it a lot. And it's also a Marvel of 2D animation at a time where that was starting to go away. And these days they don't do feature 2D animation anymore, not really. so I sort of relished that mid to late 90s Disney stuff I thought was really strong and really combined new CGI techniques really well

with 2D stuff and just created really magical looking movies and this is one of them so Tarzan is on Disney Plus and is available for you and any two year old you want to watch it with all right Nicole let's move to Nicole should I here I'm going to change I'm going to reset our thing real quick, just in case you got a weird.

Actually, you're probably okay. Say something. I sent you, I mean, everything looks fine. I know. It's not your fault. Sometimes it's discord. Sometimes it's not you. It's almost,

the only problem I have this with lately is Nicole, but I'm not saying it's her fault. I just don't know what it is. It's something weird. But anyway, we're back. Now we're good. We've got a nice fresh connection.

All right. So I have a Disney. I have two. I couldn't remember the second. And then I looked at my history on Hulu. I'm like, oh, that's right. it was kind of forgettable but the first one is a Disney plus original that is currently it's a series and there's only two episodes out but I highly recommend it the kids and I are watching it and I love it

so here's the clip all right I'm clicking I'm opening it's opening it's not working Hold on, yeah, it is. There is a place where truth matters, even if most people don't pay attention to it. Our organization is always searching for those who appreciate the truth. If any child is caught cheating, they will be executed. Excused. We'll be excused. And our criteria for approval may be considered mysterious. Mr. Benedict, we have our team.

Hello? I'm the aforementioned Mr. Benedict. You all possess a quality that is lacking in our society. Rainer your intuitive understanding of human nature, sticky your reservoir of knowledge, constance, your defiance of conventional thought patterns. Kate, you're uncanny feel for how things go together. What is it that you all have in common?

I see fear and bad fashion. You're very unpleasant. Oh, Kate. what this looks great christin shawls in this yeah i'm into that tony hale is mr benedict which i didn't recognize him at all because all i can think is his character from arrested development yeah wow that's him in the holy cow with the curly hair and yes with the curly hair yeah total total transformation all right so this so this is called the mysterious benedict society um there like i said there's only two episodes out so

far there's eight they're almost an hour long so it's like a little mini movie um and it's about four gifted orphans that are recruited for by mr benedict to go on a secret mission so there's this thing that's happening in the world called the emergency and nobody's at the wheel and everybody's afraid and everybody is scared and things are happening um and what i love about this show is that For kids in the world today, everything's a little scary, right? So I feel like this is a show that helps kids have and create critical thinking, which is a very hard skill to learn. So I love it. I absolutely love it.

And that's what these four kids are doing. They all have their gift in how they view. And so the first episode is them taking this test. And how they pass the test is really awesome. And I just highly recommend it. Even for kids, I mean, if you don't have kids, I still think it's a great show. It looks like fun. It looks funny.

And I really like, I like that cast. These kids all look like they're decent actors. One of these kids' name is this Renee Muldoon character is played by Mystic. His name is Mystic Inshu. That's a cool name. Yeah. So he's like the main kid, Rainer, and he's an orphan. I mean, you just, you find the kids come together, you know, and you get their backstory.

You also heard in that clip where she's like, you will be executed. That was Christian that shall. Kristen Shaw. She's from Shaw. She's Louise on Bob's Berger. She's on. Yes. So Mateo recognized her voice.

He goes, where do I know that voice? Where do I know that voice? Flight of Concord. She's amazing. I love her and everything. There's nothing she can't do. I liked her when she, toward the end of the,

the Daily Show before John Stewart left, she used to do a segment. I used to love that segment. I know her from Fly of the Concords. That's how I was introduced to her. Yeah, same. She was in the world was.

She just has a great voice. She's wonderful in this. I wish there were more episodes out. What was the first thing she ever did? Hold on. Flight of the Concords would have been pretty early in her career. yeah um that's later than i thought let's see yeah 2007 so yeah are put on a mission to find out who is

creating the emergency and so there's like stealthiness and figuring out things and it's just a wonderful show watch it it's great i'm i'm down this looks great i'm totally going to watch this it reminds me of like a oh i don't know it was one of those lemony snickety things or even like we were just talking, like the Charlene Chocolate Factory kind of vibe to it, just a little bit. A little bit, yeah, yeah. Which I'm into.

All right. I will definitely check that out. In context with what is happening in the world today. There's a lot of on the nose kind of stuff. Tally in the chat says, Saw Shawl from the Daily Show, never saw a flight of the Concord. You are missing out.

Jeez, watch Fire the Concords. It's so wonderful. And what's great is you can get through them so quick because there's only, what, three seasons, six episodes each or something? super short. Yeah. It's amazing. They're amazing. So good. You can find them on HBO. You can have HBO. Two seasons of Flyer the Concords. Yeah. You should do it. Business time. It also says on Twitter here, or sorry on MDB, Bob's Berger's the movie, Louise Belcher, in post-production.

It's in post-production. That means they're going to finally be done with this thing. And I couldn't be more excited because I love me some Bob's burgers. All right. Anyway, sorry, your next recommendal. No, no, that's okay. Oh, that's all you've got. Oh, okay. So since we We're talking about Fly of the Concords. Jermaine Clement, who's part of the duo. I bought a video game solely on the fact that he did the voiceover for the trailer. Wow. What was it?

It's the new Dungeons and Dragons video game. Which one? Dark Alliance. You shouldn't. I think it's on GamePass. You can get it for free. I don't have. I don't have an Xbox.

Oh, well, you have a PC, don't you? just do the game pass it's right there that's I bought it it it's done yeah but nine bucks and you'd have it and it's not a good game it's a bad game it's kind of a bad game if I had someone to play with I actually enjoy it oh well it's it's nothing this year has reviewed more poorly than that game but I but I take your word for it I take your word for it I do but I I bought the game solely because

Germain Clement voice the trailer of the game if you go in to the little you know how they put the trailer up, just watch it. It's awesome. Yeah, yeah. But also, also, just so you know in the future, you don't need Xbox for GamePass. Nine bucks on your PC. You got all the GamePass games. I don't play my PC very much. I prefer my console. Well, well, if you're on PlayStation, then they're still on a PS4, okay. Yeah, no, it's totally fine. It's all good. Enjoy, enjoy what you got. That's all I'm saying. Don't make me upgrade. It's all good. All right. Back. Here's my second one.

It's on Hulu. It's a game show. It's kind of awful, but I can't still watching it. Oh, this sounds like it's going to be my jam. Yeah, right, like this. You like a good game show. Here we go. I do. I like a bad game show.

That's true. Bachelors, if you're still stumped, don't worry. You're in luck. Michael Bolton is about to sing a song full of clues about our mystery celebrity. And celebrity, you're in luck because Michael Bolton's about to sing a song full of clues about you. Honestly, I'm so excited for this. Me too. Oh, my Lord.

I hate it already, so it's edited. Yeah. Oh, Michael Bowdo. It must have been cold there in your shadow. I'm going to get in trouble for that one. So what's the celebrity dating game? This is it.

This is a celebrity dating game. This is the episode with Nicole Byer, which I love Nicole Byer from Nailed It on Netflix. It's awful. It's awful. It's so awful. It's so awful, but I still like stayed up late watching it, going, why am I still awake watching this? Okay. So you watched that first episode. Yeah.

Who was the first? The Bachelor Red Girl. That's right. Okay. Did you watch the guy, the Bachelor number one and his increasing? sweating pits that were like soaking his shirt

yeah gross and then they would do cuts so like you could tell that they were piecing this together and it's like it's sweaty pits it's not sweaty it's sweaty

oh my god it was like I had to I started watching it just like while I was cooking lunch or something and I said oh my God Tina has to see this so I paused it so that the two of us could watch it

just because of this guy was so awkward and is like oh what would we do if we went on a first date arts and crafts sweat sweat sweat sweat sweat it just grew as he went that's gross so hold on a second is this hosted by her and michael bolton he's always there yeah zoie de chanelle as the main host yeah and then you have michael bolton on the to the side every time they go to him he just looks like why am i here what am i doing

he's completely with the audience wondering what the hell is Michael Bolton doing there and he's the and he clearly feels the same way let me let me tell you what song actually slaps that he does though okay the song I actually get into and I'm happy to hear it any time it's that weird thing he did with Lost Island where they sing it about oh yeah Jack Sparrow and the Tortuga thing I could listen to that anytime I think that is a great song I challenge anyone I don't care if you come Don't come at me is what I'm saying Because it's great

Right, right Anyway So recommend it or what are you saying? Is this good? I mean If you're looking So episode three These are the celebrities

That have been on it so far So you had Hannah Brown Who was The Bachelorette Nicole Beyer Carson Cressley From The first queer eye Yeah

Iggy Azalia TIG Demi Burnett Those are the ones that are. Who are the last two names, you said? Iggy Azalia. No, oh, sorry. Or Demi Burnett. Yeah, I don't know who, I don't know who Demi Burnett is.

These are like celebrities that I don't really know. Yeah, because that's how this stuff goes. Like, celebrity, what was it back in the day, Brian? Battle of the Network stars or whatever. It's always been. Yeah, right. It was A-listers for the TV show. You had your Lee Majors and you had Charles Bronson and, you know,

Danny DeVito going up against Wait a minute It's Charles Bronson and Danny DeVito ever It was just the name I was Probably was Charles Nelson Riley I just couldn't come up with a name But They were

Yeah it was more prominent celebrities than I'm gonna put in in the chat here This is what Michael Bull Looks like all the same Yeah Yeah Let's see Oh yeah

Just always a little Like a confused He just looks It's so confused, man. Poor guy. Look at him. Look at him. He's so confused.

Can I send it to the chat? Can I put pictures in the chat? Yeah. Well, you can link them. No, it's a link to my computer. Oh, well, then it won't work because you can't. Unless it's a link to your drop box or something, but yeah. Yeah, you can't just have it.

Go look at it. Yeah, I'm showing the chat right now. They can see it. I put it up on screen. It's rough business. It's wonderfully awful. I mean, because they realize they can't really do. the dating game anymore. Nobody cares. Um, so let's add celebrity in it and see what

happens. I feel like there's a lot of these game shows that are injecting celebrity in it and trying to bring, bring it back. Quote unquote celebrity. Quote unquote. And Zoe D. Chanel, I love her, but boy, does she feel awkward in this. Right. Why is she doing this? She's slumming it, man. She doesn't need this. I don't get it at all. She doesn't need this at all. She could do a billion other things she doesn't need to be doing this yeah yeah whatever give it a watch have a laugh it's stupid but yeah there you go yeah not the quirky awkward that she thrives on that she does really well it's like well we'll be back after this message you know she's like handing it up trying to do a dance and stuff it's like i mean are they trying to be that see this is my question is

it intentionally trying to be kind of weird and goofy about it or they'd plan it because it feels like they're playing it straight. And that's where the problem is for me. They're being goofy about. The hosts are being goofy about. Even the celebrity, quote, unquote, is being goofy about it. But the bachelors slash bachelorets are. They're nervous.

They're nervous. And they're playing it for real. Like, they are, they're invested in this. Hence the flop sweat. Well, and I wonder, it's like, where are they going on this date? Like, what I want to know what happens. after, like, does it really happen, or is this just TV magic? Yeah.

Like, yeah, that's what they need to do. Like, cut out some of the weird awkwardness and put in, like, here's video of them going to the Palm Restaurant for dinner, and it's really weird and awkward. Or they just send them to the craft table and say, there's your day. Yeah, who knows. Real weird. The celebrity better be paying, too, by the way. Yeah.

all I'm saying is that looks like trash so maybe people should watch it so watch it Joey Lawrence is going to be a future uh uh bachelor on there weird I can't imagine what I mean he's such a busy dude with all the stuff he's got going on he's going to go he's going to be going whoa yeah whoa I like this girl whoa David Keckner Margaret Cho Taye Diggs Tyson Beckford again there was some favors called in for this show as well I think so yeah there's like there's no date happening. Oh my God. Chris Catan is coming up this season. Great. Great. Chris Catan, one of the more illustrious post-S&L careers. Right. Yes, exactly. The mango. You can date the mango.

Very, very good. All right. Well, these are all fine recommendals. Nicole's going to put them on your Twitter account. Nicole Spack, follow her there. We'll retweet it as well. Nicole, anything else you want to say before we go? Have a wonderful weekend. We will. Even though it's Wednesday. What day is it? It's Wednesday. But have a good weekend anyway, because it's the fourth, it's fourth of July. Don't burn stuff down is the main thing. Technically, it's our weekend. Yeah.

Yeah. It's America's weekend. We'll see you soon. Bye now. America's weekend. All right. Well, we did that. We did that.

And now we're going to go. However, I do have to mention a couple of quick things. Number one, I tried out X cloud on iPads, iPhones, Mac, Windows, and a series X. Because it came out officially. yesterday. And if you already have GamePass Ultimate, then you already have XCloud. And I have to say a little shocked at how well it ran. It was kind of awesome. Basically, I synced a controller, just happened to be an Xbox One controller, but you can use anything. Sync this to my Mac, played it through a browser. And somehow I was playing Dirt 5 on a browser with very little

latency, and that was mostly the Bluetooth latency I was dealing with. Played it for my phone, played it from my iPad, both of those on Wi-Fi. No issues. No glitches, no lag, no nothing. I was blown away by it. So, oh, and that's the other thing, is I picked these games up right where I left off last time I played them on the proper console. So all that stuff is synced across the business, man. It's pretty rad. And, I mean, they were already beta testing this on Android and some other stuff, so others already knew. But I hadn't had a chance to mess with it, and I did.

And I thought it was great. So more coverage on that on the various game shows that we do here on the network. So watch for that. Also, one quick email from Gabe. who wrote in, says important Hitler information. Dear Scott and as well as Brian, he says, that's a weird way to say that. Dear Scott as well as Brian.

On Monday's episode, this is last Monday, previous Monday. You mentioned killing Hitler with Nutella. While I don't consider this offensive, I thought it prudent to point out that Hitler killed himself. Therefore, talking about killing Hitler technically, in a very

specific way, makes you just as bad as Hitler. Like, quite literally Hitler killed himself. So if we say, well, I would baby Hitler, that means you are as bad as Hitler because that's his point. Yeah. I disagree, but I like his point. Yeah. He says, of course, in all the important ways, you are nothing like Hitler, and I would posit that the best

thing about Hitler is that he killed Hitler. Like, pretty horrific, if you think about it. Heroic, rather. Heroic, not horrific. Really changed the world for the better. I mean, Hitler was terrible, but credit where credit is due. Okay, love you guys. Bye, he says Gabe. Well, Gabe, I appreciate

the thought. Our conversation did spark a lot of emails back and forth about, you know, baby Hitler killing and all that. Gotcha. I don't really have a – here's – okay, I got a bottom line for you. If somebody said, Scott, you can go back in time and there will be baby Hitler there. And you're guaranteed to know that if you don't destroy baby Hitler, that he will become full Hitler and six million plus people will die, a world war will happen, blah, blah, blah, like all that. Yeah. So you have to...

Yeah. Because he's Hitler. And the idea has always been, well, I can't kill a baby because he hadn't done anything yet. But if somebody said, it's a guarantee he will do all those things. Yeah. I don't know. I'd be tempted. We'd tempted to, you know...

It would be difficult as hell. I don't know how you do it. But I would feel compelled to do it. Yeah. I'd have to know, though, that there's no chance this timeline couldn't have something else happen. Right. That you couldn't do one more change. that would affect, you know, do you kill his parents and save the baby, but they don't kind of raise him in a way that makes him hateful and horrible?

Yeah, maybe I don't have to kill anybody. Maybe I just kidnap him and dump him at this doorstep of somewhere else, and he just has a different life. You know what I mean? Exactly. Maybe there's another way to deter the Hitlerism thing. And then there's always the issue of, well, if you don't kill that Hitler, another will take his place because that's where society was,

and that's where world culture was, and we were just there anyway. So if it wasn't Hitler, it would be Hitler second. Do you pluck baby Hitler out of Germany and drop him into an orphanage in Atlanta, Georgia and change the timeline that way? Yeah, then he just grows up loving peaches. He's raised by different parents and, uh, yeah, he just loves a peach. He likes R.E.M. I don't know why he really wants to have that weird mustache, but okay. Yeah, fine.

But he ends up spending his whole life on a peach farm, you know, growing, I don't know why I'm so obsessed with peaches. It's the peach state, right? They got all the peaches there? Is that their deal? Yeah, Georgia is the Peach State, yes. Yeah, their logo at the end of every Marvel movie, big old peach going thanks to the freaking people of Georgia for letting us film allers shift there. Okay, move him to Canada.

There you go. Move him to Canada. Yeah, people are saying, no, because if you move him to Atlanta, he's going to become a Klansman. Well, again, I think it's in how you get raised, but let's put them up in Canada. He'll be raised by a nice Newfoundland couple, and then there you go. Yeah, but I'd even take Klansmen. The Klansman can only go so far. Hitler went all the way.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't think the Klansman's going to... The Klansman was never destined to try to take over the world. So, I don't know. I don't know. The point is... Would you kill baby David Duke? This is really getting dark.

No, but I might walk up to current... Happy Fourth of July, everybody. I think I'd walk up to current David Duke and backhand him. I'd do that. right can i use that uh uh those those little portal doors to just sort of night crawler uh bamfing to just keep whacking david duke in different parts of his head before he can react yeah banff behind him whack bamf out bamf back in the front damn oh yeah totally i'd do that if i was invisible if i had the power of invisibility i'd totally pop in one no problem yeah

i wouldn't kill him just knock him on the head real hard right fine with that and have him be really confused about where it came from oh you know what i do if i was invisible i would I would wreak havoc on his life to make him think that God or a ghost or anything was trying to tell him to quit being a racist piece of shit. Oh, see, that would be the ideal invisibility goal. Yeah. Yeah. Just correct the people that would be influenced by a higher power telling him to quit being such a-holes. That's right.

Now, if you like this thought experiment, want to submit your own, you can. It's the morning stream at gmail. Send your hate email about what we just talked about, too. Sure. If you want to, you can. Big thanks to everybody supports us on our Patreon. It is the fuel that runs this car. So thank you to everybody who contributes.

And if you don't, consider it, it's over at patreon.com slash TMS. For all else, frogpans.com slash TMS. We now leave you with a song, but Brian has to tell you what it is. I don't know it. Yeah. This one is from Barry. Barry. He says, hi, Scott and Brian.

Thank you so much for the never-ending laughs. engaging podcast and great community view you've created. We look forward to our next real group hug with the tadpole. This Tuesday, the 29th. Barry Ann and Bobby will celebrate their 30th anniversary together. What started out is a phone call on a landline

has become 30 years of sheer bliss. Between Scott and Kim, Brian and Tina, and Barry and Bobby Ann will have nearly 90 years of love, respect, and friendship together. What? That's a weird way of looking at it. Wow.

Yeah. adding up all of our stuff there. Take that, Generation Z. Anyway, happy to have Brian make the call on the song. He is, after all, the master. I know Barry and Bobby Ann just got back from Detroit, so welcome back. Hope you had fun in Detroit.

Hope it was a good trip. He says, use my discretion. Well, I'm going to use my discretion. This is something brand new that is so good. This one came out as a single released from the social dilemma that Netflix documentary about social media and how it's how it's destroying all of us piece by piece. This is a cover of the song originally by Screamin' Jay Hawkins. I put a spell on you. This is performed by Brandy Carlisle and Renee Elise Goldberry. Here is, I put a spell on you.

Programming note, this is the final show of the week. There will be no show tomorrow or Friday for PM because I am going to a family reunion. It's actually here in town, but you know, that's where I'll be. And we will not be here as a result. So there will be shows Monday. We're back to it normal, all that, but don't look for FilmSack or TMS this weekend. Sorry, summer.

Summer happens. It's what happens. We try to limit it as best we can, but this is what happens. So anyway. Every year, we try and stop it, but it still keeps happening. I guess 2020 we were a little less.

It was a little less stretched, but, you know, kind of things are getting weird. Anyway, don't get that Delta variant. And we'll see you guys on Monday. day. Be safe. We'll see you then. you better stop the things you do I'll tell you I ain't lying I ain't lying

you know I can't stand it you're running around I can't stand it The way you put me down, I put a spell on you. Because you're mine. Because you're mine. the rabbit whore here we go a whole generation living the Truman show no control over the feet and CEP to humanity to the machinery not only selling ads are selling you and me and slowly

hacking our psychology tracking what we want to see who we want to be playing on our fragile vanity the symptoms of oppressive algorithms seen as gisms in society when we're giving into hidden rhythms written with the heartbeat of conspiracy they said to hell with us they put a spell The greatest trick plate on humanity Is the true rise of free Our shared reality I put a spell on you Cause you

mine I put a spell on it I Spell on you Cut your life This show. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at FrogPants.com.

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