The Morning Stream - TMS 2140: Roundhouse of Refreshment

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:38 The cheetah in Tarzan was a monkey, right? Wellness, the hippie swear word. Intermittent junk slathering. We asked for more bees, but they wouldn't give us any more bees. Doing math with Candyman and Beetlejuice. Sitting in the yard with water in a popsicle. L.A. 2. Sorry, I have an itch. They're apes, not monkeys, but we don't care. Swimming in the family soup with Wendy. And more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Steady pack after pack
Starting point is 00:02:05 smoking is the only sensible way to tell how a cigarette will get along with your throat. Pipe down, owners, will you pipe down? D. D. M.S. S. S. S S S. D. the morning stream better than a pound of jam in your pants hello everyone and welcome to tms it's the morning stream for wednesday july 7th 2021 i'm scott and that's brian hi brian hi scott how are you okay oh sorry i have an itch oh we got it all right little nasal itch everything's fine not going after a bug as I used to tell my kids if I saw them scratch their nose I go you're going at you get in a bug you got a bug
Starting point is 00:02:57 that's what I'd say they used to love they used to hate that dad shut up and then they go no it's a scratch not a pick yeah it's not a scratch oh it's a scratch oh I swear great signfeld anyway hey we're here we got a show it's uh Wednesday and uh here's here's the deal it's a little weird today as I mentioned yesterday some of you paid attention some of you probably didn't but some of you will tweet about this later and ask us why we didn't warn you yeah you'll you'll all wonder but it's okay uh windy she'll be here today she's switching days just this week only because she's in town she'll be physically here uh here's a quick webcam of where she'll be sitting standing i'm not sure she's
Starting point is 00:03:34 gonna sit or stand but uh she'll be right over there windy cam we got the windy cam and uh that'll happen uh about the 45 minutes or so from now so uh you know look forward to that it'll be great we got an email it's not the it's not the happy of emails, but, you know, when are they? When are, when are the emails to Wendy super positive? They usually aren't. Dear Wendy, everything's great and I love everything about my life. How can you, what can, what should I do?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah, nothing is broken all as well. What else can I do? What book should I go get on Amazon today? How can I get some drama in my life? Anyway, so that's coming. We'll watch for that. Very excited to have her here. They're also going to go swimming today.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Which is a bummer because I'd love to go with them, but I've got a lot of work to do today. Yeah, are they going to the water park? No, we've got a pool in the neighborhood. Yeah, we've got like a pool, like an HOA funded pool thing. It's very nice and new and all that, but yeah, I won't be. Is this the one where the neighbors around it, the apartments around it can kind of look down and condos around it? You remember that story? Yeah, I still, every time we go there, I think of that because it's, they tap.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like the third and fourth floor of these of these condo slash townhomes just stare right into the pool. And I just know there's some dude up there going, oh, yeah, it's almost full. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Open that cooler. All right, get that Sprite out. Uh-huh. Open the Sprite.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh, tap the side. You get those donuts out. You snuck in. You're not supposed to take in there. Yeah, so anyway, I will, I'm actually thinking I'm going to go swimming. No, sometime soon. Jeannie says all our hazmat suit. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I'll just get in. I don't care. I've gotten to a new place, Brian. I'm at a new place with the pandemic. If you could get vaccinated, you have. And if you haven't, you got no excuse in this country, all right? Plenty of a myriad of opportunities to get a free vaccine. There's nobody who should be saying, well, I want to get the vaccine, but I just haven't been able.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like, there's no place that doesn't. Or, you know, I can't get to a place that does or anything like that. Yeah, you don't have that at all. Lyft and Uber will drive you to get it for free right now. So I'm going to make, I'll do reasonable things. I'm going to, I'm okay getting in a pool. If that pool has a billion people in it, no. I wouldn't do that anyway, even on a good day.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I wouldn't do that. So, yeah, a little bit of pee and chlorine, never hurt anybody. I'm, I'll be fine in there. Just don't poo in the pool. And this pool has a kid's pool. So that's where all the pooing goes on is over in that kid's pool. The pooh-pooh, it's easier to drain and refill the poo-poole. Yeah, but they, you know, and I love those when they do the, they blow on their thing, all right, we're going to do an inspection.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And then they look around for a, you know, a little baby Ruth bar. A little trisket in there somewhere and then comb the joint. Anyway, we'll let you guys. A fun-sized baby Ruth, yeah. I'll let you guys know how it goes. So I have a question for dog experts. I know we do this a lot. I just have one more question.
Starting point is 00:06:50 We talked about it, kind of touched on yesterday. They are still acting a little shell-shocked, like a little PTSD about them being taken from us for four days and then returning. And I really do think that all three of them probably got over there and went, this is our, is this our new life? What are we doing? Is this the way things are going to be from now on? Because they don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:14 How do they know? They don't know. They don't know. They don't know what's going on. So they're over there thinking, probably. Probably by day four, they're like, okay, I guess this is it. This is the new normal. I'm going to settle in here.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I got to live with all these other dogs. So this is the first time they've been to that kennel. Yes, first time ever. Well, sorry, second time. They did an overnighter to prep for it like a month ago because that's what, so rover.com, they have this rule where they want you to meet the dogs and make sure everything's cool before you do anything. And so we did that, which I appreciate it. And they spent a night there.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And that was that night that Ripley escaped. ran around the neighborhood and got lost and they had to go find her she jumped over the fence she didn't do she didn't even try this time um but the dogs don't remember i mean they just they just know it's a foreign place and now they're back in this foreign place and so now that they're home they just kind of mope around looking at us like you did this dust me oh really so it's not even like they're super clingy because that's uh i mean Daisy goes to Tina's parents all the time
Starting point is 00:08:16 whenever we go somewhere, unless they're going with us for some reason, then they go over to Tina's parents' house. Yeah. And she just, she's gotten the point where, yeah, I know, I'm here for a couple days, a couple sleeps, and then I come back home. Yeah, see that, and that's a really healthy thing, it seems like. Like, that's what I want for, for these three dogs, but they seem to be, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know how to come on it. Well, it's really their first, maybe second time going. there. They don't know. They don't know how long
Starting point is 00:08:48 they're going to be there. There's not really a ritual or anything that they've kind of gotten used to. But usually dogs get kind of clingy after something like that, right? Where they just follow you around like, oh, whatever I did to make you put me in that place with all those barking
Starting point is 00:09:05 dogs. I'm not going to do it again, whatever it is. So you're and you're right. And Rainer was very excited to see me. I'll give her that. She wanted to eat my ear off. She was so excited. But then they all just kind of got into this malaise of sort of mirror and it's just not like their normal personality so you know where my brain goes here's my current theory all right that it was undisclosed we didn't know
Starting point is 00:09:27 there's no way to know this but in this house in their basement uh-huh this is all in my head okay there's a giant 425 pound man naked and this is the kennel or wherever they wherever the dog's Yeah, it's a house It's like a home. And in there, they got this 425 pound man Naked who sits on a on a on a on a on three old mattresses. Okay, I've got this all figured out.
Starting point is 00:09:59 All right. Side by side or stacked? Stacked. Stacked. Okay. All right. I bet they're stained. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's dark in there. No sheets on them or anything. Yeah, it's dark. It's weird. He's got like sheets hanging in the from the ceiling to the wall to kind of create a canopy like experience in there. A couple of. handles burning and intermittently throughout the day I think they slather peanut butter on this
Starting point is 00:10:22 guy's junk and then they send a dog down to lick to eat the peanut butter I think that and that and so they just put them on a rotation every day they got to go down to see you know wow hair bubble butt or whatever's name is downstairs and they're going to go lick Ripley you're up so when they got back they were like don't ever send us there again Oh, my God. This is where my brain went. So I can't help it. I'm sure it's not that, but it's still where my brain went.
Starting point is 00:10:51 No, but it is the plot for the next Bloomhouse movie. So that will be good. Oh, that will be good. Yeah, they could use a hit right now. They've kind of had a couple. Coming to a theater near you. Yeah. Aren't they working on the new Fantasy Island thing?
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yes, that is them. Yeah. That's them. I wonder how that'll go. Is that a TV thing or a movie? It's a movie, right? TV thing, I think. Oh, is it?
Starting point is 00:11:10 All right. Oh, no. You know what? There's the movie that just came out, which was Bloom House, and then there's the new TV show. Oh, right. Which I don't think is Bloomhouse related. No. I think they're separate, but that's weird that.
Starting point is 00:11:25 What a weird thing to be doing? It's just done on me that we did have the movie a couple of years ago. Last year. To me, to me that seems weird, but maybe that's not that different than like a whole different guy playing Flash in the Snyder movies, but there's a flash TV show and a flash game. No, but it just feels like there's, you know, it's like such a sudden, like all of a sudden, resurgence of fantasy island yeah yeah what is that about were people asking for that i wasn't asking no nobody was asking for that nobody nobody nobody wants it nope um but if they don't have a little tiny guy yell on the plane then back and then back off what are even doing right even bothering
Starting point is 00:11:58 if you don't have yeah i'm looking to see i don't see uh let's see i guess 10th is going to be the premiere so in just about a month we'll see the first episode yeah um but uh all we know is Manchez is going to be Elena Rourke, who's going to be a descendant of, uh, of Khan. Khan, great, great. He, he's, uh, from hell's heart. He, he, he spits, no, what was he say? What did he say to Kirk from hell's heart? It's a Shakespeare thing. Yeah. From hell's heart. I, something at you. Stab. Stab at thee. That's it. Dice tomato, get my workup in the chat. He's mad. hey you guys want to you guys want to trigger nice tomato i think you just get it misquote yeah misquote
Starting point is 00:12:50 uh shakespeare slash uh con yeah you do that and he's he's ready to kill you uh anyway well i'll do whatever we need to to make the dogs happy i just feel like they saw maybe maybe they saw some stuff i don't know i'm just saying i don't actually know who knows only you know only in a dog's mind if we ever get that technology that lets us uh communicate with with dogs can tell us what they saw the horrors that they witnessed you know the you know this the the the the Futurama episodes where Bender turns into a person and he's all huge and he is actually dead but his body makes these sounds so someone bumps him and he goes woo who makes it the weird sound that's what I picture is a guy like that for some reason
Starting point is 00:13:32 anyway uh good luck to all future dogs over at peanut better town let's get uh let's get this thing on the road here we're going to play a game today going to get done a involved. We need us a Dunaway for this. We do. And y'all at home need to have the number handy, 801-47104-6-2, and that will allow you to participate in today's Tad Pooley Feud, which begins now.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Welcome to the Tad Pooley feud, everybody. Joining us for this fun is Brian Dunaway, as he always does on Wednesdays. Hi, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi. Oh, hello, Brian. Hi. How are you guys doing this great hump day? Whoa, look at you. Look at you at the energy. What's going on over there? You got the, you got the monster drinks or what? What are you doing today? What's up? Drinking some, currently drinking some water. Yeah. I don't know. Hey, uh, questionable.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You, you can. Chuck Norris water. Is that a thing? Is that a thing? Yeah, they had some of that at the, they were a sponsor. It's Chuck Norris's water. I punched him and I took his water. Whoa. It's a round house of refreshment. They had it, they were a sponsor of the MS-150. And so all of the rest stops had Chuck Norris water. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. I don't want Chuck Norris water because I don't want to know what's in it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's called Sea Force in there for Chuck, see? And it's, uh, the slogan is a force of nature. That's what it is. I can't figure out if it's some kind of, uh, you know, him trying to drug us or if, or if he was just at his house and was like, I'm going to fill up a couple of these bottles with the tap water and I want to take it with me. I lean that direction personally. Yeah. Yeah. Walker, Texas faker is what he is. All right. Well, hey, it's good to have you here. We have a listener on the line who's going to participate with us. Let's find out who's on hold. Hi, who's this.
Starting point is 00:15:29 This is Dave from Bamidji, Minnesota. Bamigi. Oh. Dave from Bamidji. Hold on now. That's not really a place. Yeah, it's in Fargo. They, hey, you hear about that thing up in Bimigi? Yeah, it was first season. They talk about Bimigi all the time. Do you guys, how do you guys feel about Fargo? Do you think they get it right or are they just a big cartoon to where you live? No, not right at all.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah, it's not correct at all. Not even close. Not even close. All right, well, it's good to have you here. Anybody from Bimigi is a friend of ours, and we're going to play a game where you might win some prizes. Brian Ibbett over here is going to have to explain it, though, Brian. That's right. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics, and 368 of them have replied, Scott and Brian are you going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. And it's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Dave, from Bemidji, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. If your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes Plainscape, Torment, Enhanced Edition. Oh, Enhanced.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And Enhanced. Zoom, Enhance. And also, Republic. Ooh, those are two great games. The first one, yeah, freaking torment or Plainscape Torment is one of the greatest single-player RPGs ever made, period. Oh, wow. And that's old, but this remastered version goes. Yeah, it's very good. And then that...
Starting point is 00:17:00 Maybe I should give him something else, then. If these are both good, then he doesn't eat both of them. I'm going to be happy with one of them. Yeah. Republic is a really cool, stealth action thing. Very cool. These are awesome games. He'll love these.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Excellent. All right. Well, he only gets them if one of you guys wins, and it's the one that he teams up with. And to team up, we need to give you guys a question. So put your hands on your buzzers. All right. Well, we're going to move that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 There we go. Yeah. We surveyed 368 Tadpool members and asked them to name a famous monkey real or fictional. Scott King Kong Missed it Show me King Kong
Starting point is 00:17:43 Oh Nice One answer will beat it Brian Hmm Um Um Um
Starting point is 00:17:51 Um Um So say the question More time More time Sure Name a famous monkey Real or fictional
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'm gonna go with Oh Um I'm gonna go with Michael Jackson's A little Bubbly monkey everybody knows him right
Starting point is 00:18:07 bubbles sure bubbles show me bubbles number five oh yeah well that means Dave's with me yeah that means Dave is with you so Scott and Dave working together and you guys
Starting point is 00:18:23 have have control all right Dave who doesn't sound anything like the stereotype of a Bimijian you betcha he doesn't let's uh anything jump to your head where you're like Oh, yeah, there's a monkey. I know we'll be on this list.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Mine's probably kind of out there, but the first thing I thought of was Amy from Congo, I think it's called. That's great. Amy, sad. Amy. Yeah, I wonder how. Suck it. Amy. It's kind of out there.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That was the first one that popped to my head. Lava tubes. I was think, well, I've got a backup, but I think we go for it. This is a weird, weird crowd we're dealing with. Let's say Amy from Congo. All right. Show me Amy. from Congo
Starting point is 00:19:06 number 15 on the list all right it made it but not quite and by the way we know that a lot of these are not monkeys monkeys yeah we it's the right it's yeah yeah I get it this is about what people said not what about what is facts exactly
Starting point is 00:19:29 exactly this isn't tadpooley fact this is tadpooley feud Yep. No facts here, baby. All right. So, back over to Brian Dunaway. Let's see. How about, I just feel like this is a smart answer, and that worries me. I'm going to say Caesar from Planet of the Apes. Oh, sure. Spreading that virus. All right, let's see what a. All right, show me Caesar.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yep, number four on the list. Nice. I don't think he was spreading the virus, but he... No, he was... He just was beneficiary. He was spreading the virus of rebellion. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:13 The last two movies are Matt Reeves joints, and he's making the new Batman, so I'm just saying. I'm excited. Right. That guy's great. All right. Keep going. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:21 All right. There's a... All right. So I'm going to go with, um... Oh, what is his name, though? Hold on a thing. I think what I think what I did you did, jeet, you're thinking. I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I had it. I had it for a second in there for guys' name. Clyde. Clyde. Clyde. Yes. The monkey with the Kinesse Woods, Clyde, with the, he's really an orangutan, but these people, this is monkey people.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Come on. Right turn, Clyde. That, that's right. That's right. That's what I had to say to myself, so I could remember a stupid name. Yeah, well done. Show me that thing from any, which way, but, every which way but loose. Oh.
Starting point is 00:21:01 That's too old, man. nobody knows that number 16 actually so just barely didn't make the top 10 all right how do you feel about donkey Kong Dave oh that's a good word I didn't think about that yeah let's do it let's do donkey Kong right all right show me donkey Kong do do do do do do that's too low it's on there but it's too low damn it's on there number seven on the list uh lower the better though got yeah it's true That's true. Actually, yeah, you do the lower... That's a good point. The way these rules work will benefit ourselves. Right now, it's a tie.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It's 9-9. Was Donkey Kong's named Donkey Kong in the Mario? Yeah, he's still Donkey Kong. Yeah, I got a big old D.K. on his tie. Where's a tie? It was always called Donkey Kong? Okay. Yeah. When I chose him last night for a golf, three holes of golf, I chose Donkey Kong. Just making sure he was always called that.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Right, because Mario was originally Jumpman, right? Right. So Donkey Kong could have had another name in that first game. Now, we could stay in Nintendo Land and even go further down the list if we wanted to do Diddy Kong. How do you feel about Diddy Kong, Dave? He's an actual. Yeah, not much is coming to my head, so let's go for it. Let's go Diddy. He's about actual monkeys, so this will be good.
Starting point is 00:22:16 His actual monkey. Show me Diddy Kong. Damn it. Interesting. Number 17. It's funny because Amy, Clyde, and Diddy Kong, all 15, 16, and 17. Really? what is number one that's bothering me there should be something just like punching me in the face here yeah i don't know what one is either it's weird and it's fictional or otherwise right correct uh which otherwise would be real yes
Starting point is 00:22:46 fictional why is there a difference between real and fictional yep right yep yep there is yes there definitely is there's a monkey well i'm gonna go with the fictitional uh uh fake news harambe all right that never happened that was this YouTube video that didn't happen it was an inside job all right
Starting point is 00:23:10 show me show me harombe number eight number eight I should have thought that dang it how about that little
Starting point is 00:23:22 wait wait no no I wasn't I wasn't doing an I wasn't doing an answer go ahead though. No, go ahead. Go ahead, Brian.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You're good. I wasn't doing an answer. It's not like you're about to say, oh, it's fine. I'm taking kind of a scatter shot to kind of figure out with the tab pool of thing because number one's got to be something that is it curious George? I mean, he's a curious
Starting point is 00:23:47 monkey, but I can't see everybody saying curious George. Oh. Is that your guess? I guess so. I don't. I'm one is confusing me. Show me by Curious George. It is the number one answer By quite a lot
Starting point is 00:24:03 There we go There we go What I do that'd be some kind of weird That's weird That is weird I wouldn't have put that in the top Ten just if you'd ask me
Starting point is 00:24:14 But I go No because I would do something like But Scott's already called me old one time I'm not called I'm older than you So I can't call you old But when I think of monkeys I think of the animated kind And I always think of like
Starting point is 00:24:29 There's three in my head that I can think of right now. I'm trying to think of where people would go. So I'm going to go with Chim Chim. He's in my trunk of the speed racer, my mock five. All right. Get out of there, Chim Chim. Show me Chim Chim. No.
Starting point is 00:24:50 No, Jim Chim is, where is Tion on this list? I got two more animated ones that, no, three. Three, I got three more. Okay, 34 on the list, Chim Chim. All right, how about this, Dave? I know we got a bunch of friends fans in the Tadpool and some of them said their little monkey. Problem is I don't remember the damn thing's name.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Oh, I know that one. Has it an S? Yes, an S. Do I need the name, Brian, or can it be the Friends Monkey? I'll let you just say the monkey from Friends. All right, monkey from friends. Marcel. Oh, is that the name?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Marcelle. Show me Marcel. Yeah, it's number three. I was actually really worried about that. That was a good one. That was good. I always forget that the tadpool is very friends friendly. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:46 That is their jam. Yeah, yeah. It's just people of a certain age and I don't know, whatever people watch it on Netflix. They know how to pivot. Pivot. I get it. All right. It's still our turn.
Starting point is 00:25:59 see. Dave, anything jumping to your head? Actually, I just thought of a movie. I remember when I was a kid. Mighty Joe Young.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Oh, Mighty Joe Young. Oh, that's a good one. That had Furiosa. I know it's not a monkey still, but. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:26:14 no, you're totally funny. Let's do, I like it. Let's do Mighty Joe Young. That's a good one. All right. Show me Mighty Joe Young. We're too young for the Mighty Joe Young.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. All right, Brian. You've got two strikes. one more strike, but there are three answers left on the board, six and nine and ten. Right. And I can kind of talk it out because Scott doesn't have another turn. You can talk it out, right, because he's right. It's like he won't be able to guess.
Starting point is 00:26:42 As a matter of fact, you've won. Sadly, Dave has lost, but. Oh, has he won? Let's see. Oh, yeah, you have. He's 18 points to your 12. So I'm thinking Mojo Jojo or Grape, ape, or. Apu. Those are the three monkeys I could choose from.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Okay. This group likes friends and curious George. They seem to be more of the Disney people. I'm going to go with Apu. All right. Show me a poo. You mean Abu, by the way. A boo. I did say it. Sorry. You're right. I did say it wrong. You're right. It's Abu. I did say Apu. I'm sorry. Not Apu from the Simpsons. No. But Abu. Yeah. Abu.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah. Show me a boo. Yeah, man. Shit. Do, do, do, do, do. I'm surprised about that. How strongly do you feel about that grape ape? Because grape ape is ancient. I feel pretty good about grape.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I personally, I wanted to say grape ape from the beginning. Okay. Because I love grape ape. Yeah, great ape's awesome. But he is an ape. It's in the name. I don't know if that would have thrown anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So what's your answer? What's your guess? Oh, I'm going to go with the grape ape. Going for it. Show me grape ape. Oh, Great ape was actually number 11. It was the just,
Starting point is 00:28:08 just outside of the cut. All right, show me your last two answers here. Mo-go, go, go. It is not Mojo, Jojo. Coco. Oh, the actual, we finally have a real ape.
Starting point is 00:28:18 The other real monkey on the list. I totally forgot about real monkeys after a sit at Rambi. Well, I guess, Bubbles for Rambi and Coco are. Yeah, I guess Marcell's a real ape. Just a fictitious, use of the era. Right. That's true. That's true. And finally, Dr. Zayas.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Oh, Dr. Zayas. The most realest of apes, Dr. Zazos. Exactly. Oh, man. Dr. Zias, Dr. Zias. I thought about Zias for a hot second earlier, but then I thought, well, if they didn't get, um, whatever other one it was, I thought they would get, then they're not going to get that. But, uh, here's, here's the bottom line and what all that means. It means we don't have a winner. But Dave, it was still fun to play with. you and you'll always have future chances see that's the way to look at this always look on the bright side how do you feel about your your tremendous loss now and it's all good uh it's it's very rare for me to be able to call in because i usually work during the time that this is going on so oh well nice yeah i'm glad we caught you caught you that way we were able to get you this
Starting point is 00:29:19 time yeah heck yeah well i give our best to all of bemigi and watch out for those guys in fargo they're up to no good all right brian done uh let me give you guys some of the answers that we're lower on the list that are always great. Rafiki, another popular one. That would have been a good one. Gleek from the Wonder Twins, Bobo, the Bad Dates
Starting point is 00:29:40 Monkey from Indiana Jones. The Dead Monkey from Indiana Jones. Winston from Overwatch Bear from B.J. and the Bear. Davy Jones, of course. A couple of people had Davy Jones and Mickey Dolans from
Starting point is 00:29:58 the monkeys oh i get it now i thought about that but i thought that would be too old for people uh my favorite well uh yeah my favorite answer annie's boobs from community the monkey was named annie's ebbs yeah uh both you and scott got callouts uh brian dunnaway scott johnson both both nice monkeys oh fantastic you didn't you got you were left off that list that's that's a that was yeah i don't know how i was left off nice gunter from futurama joe rogan Oh, that was a great character. From the Sprockets, S&L sketch. Oh, man. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Bigilla gorilla. Moncichi, which I don't even think is an animal. I don't even what MoChiChi is. Monkey Bananas getting a shout out. Oh. But no Mojo Jojo. Mojo Jojo got one vote down at number 51. 51.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Geez. So did, what's Do guerrilla grod make the list? Yeah, I thought about Guerrilla Gras. Surprisingly, no. You'd think you would have, but no guerrilla Grod. Wow. Not enough old school Super Friends fans out there.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah. Well, that's not true because they like Gleek. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Gleek was... Cheetah. No, Cheetah is not a monkey. Why would Cheetah? No, from Tarzan.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Oh. Chita. Her name was Cheetah. You know, I've never put that together. This monkey's name was Cheetah And Jane, are you seeing it? Hold on, Cheetah. Tarzan and Jane.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Jane was the woman. Yeah, yeah, he's right. It was. Cheetah was the, no, was it? Hold on. Yeah, Cheetah was a monkey. Hold on. I just watched this movie.
Starting point is 00:31:41 That is hilarious. Not only I just watch it, I freaking recommended it, last recommendals. Let me find out what's going on here. Now I'm annoyed. All right, so Rosie O'Donnell plays Turk. Who plays Cheetah? You're talking about the car. You're talking about the animated.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think I'm talking about the old. school. Old school, Tarzan. Oh, okay. I'm talking about the animated movie. All right. Chimpanzee. And his name was Trita.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Oh, in the Disney Tarzan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, the one I recommend. Was it called Cheetah? No. There was nobody named Cheetah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 There was a Cheetah, but it was a thing they fought. My monkey memory is shot. Yeah. Wow. The Greystoke one, the Greystoke one, Dice Tomato. That's the one. Yeah, that movie had. I guess that had Cheetah in it, I guess.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Well, I mean, the old, the old, no, no, the old black and white. I don't remember there being a monkey in Tarzan. I wonder if it was... I wonder if it was original... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was what's his...
Starting point is 00:32:37 I wonder what's his name? The Highlander in there, right? He was Tarzan? Do I remember that right? I think so. Didn't think Grace... Yes, yes. Christopher Lambert was Tarzan in the Greystoke movie.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Okay. All right. My memory serves then. Yes. And... And Andy McDowell was the, was Jane, but her voice was provided by Glenn Close, unbeknownst to her. Weird. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Glenn Close came in and redubbed everything. Ian Holm was in that. Richard Griffiths, he's great. Have we watched that? We should watch that for film sack if we haven't. Yeah, why don't we? Absolutely. That'd be a great idea.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Speaking of which, that's happened in this weekend. Did I just say the word witch? Oh, it feels like, yeah. What? Wish master. Wish, oh, it's not Witchmaster, it's a Wishmaster. It's making a wish. Speaking of MISH.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, we're doing Wishmaster, which I don't think I've seen. I've never seen Wishmaster. I've seen Wishmaster. Well, of course you have. You probably have four DVDs in for a treat. This is the 1997 movie. Is that the one? 19997, correct.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's on Prime right now. Maybe other places, too, but that's where I'm watching it. Yeah. On Prime. He's got Robert England. Yeah. Ted Ramey in it. Yeah, you got your Angus Grim.
Starting point is 00:33:59 He's cool. He's cool. No one else I know. Oh, Vern Troier's in it. You got Vern Troyer for like a hot second. Oh, come on. Tony Todd. Oh. We love Tony Todd.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Wait, where's Tony Todd? He's not in the main list here. Is he in this? He plays Johnny Valentine. You guys excited about that new, the new Candyman? Yeah, the Candyman, the The, don't say it two more times, fool.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Who's the director? Is it Jordan Peel? No, Jordan Peel's producing. I don't, not sure who the director is, though. But it's, it's kind of in the vein of that sort of thing, I guess. Candy man. He shoots bees out of his mouth. Oh, wait, we're down.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Well, yeah, only one more time. Wait, don't you have to say it in a mirror? Oh, I say it three times. Don't you say it in a mirror? No, that's five times. We're done. We're dead. Five times for Candyman.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, it's three times for Beetlejuice. There's bees in here. There's suddenly bees. Why are there bees? How many for Bloody Mary then? three four and a half I think it's three isn't it that's what we did in weird kids
Starting point is 00:35:00 three guys it's always the three for me anytime yeah and guess what happened when we did it nothing nothing yeah there are no bees and we've said Candyman now six times and there's still no bees everything's fine that's gonna do it thanks Brian for
Starting point is 00:35:16 hanging out and be here for that film sack this weekend and also check out yesterday's boob show while you're at it Brian and I talking about indie games and you'll love it Brian Dunaway, anything else you'd like to say? Yes, follow me on Twitch. It's Brian Dunaway tomorrow night is Thursday night, right? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You play in some graveyard keeper with Kit London. Nice. This will be day 652. I don't know. It feels like it. We've been playing it for a while. Yeah. Enjoying myself.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. You've kept a lot of graveyards, and that's the important thing. Yes. Have a good one. We'll see you then. All right. Off he goes. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Let's do a couple news stories. I like that. a lot. Me too. And dance by the light of the moon. It's the news brought to you by. Do you ever wonder what a single man and a sentient can of expired cream corn get up to in their daily lives? If you answered yes, then check out the webcomic by Scott Johnson called Fred
Starting point is 00:36:12 and Can, available at fred and can.com. That's fredandcan.com. Indeed. Speaking of which, today's strip will go up right after the show. And, uh, let's say it's, uh, let's say, let's say, Fred's an idiot. Let's say that. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. I don't want to give anything on a very special episode of Fred and Ken. Yeah. Fred's an idiot. Yeah, Fred's an idiot. Unlike every other episode where he's always an idiot. Um, but yeah, there's a sneak pig chat. That's all you get. All right. Uh, let's get into this new
Starting point is 00:36:46 story here, this first one here. Methamphetamine is making its way into waterways in this country. Uh-oh. and is probably turning trout into attics. Florida trout. Florida trout. That's right. A bunch of trout are going to be addicted, it turns out, to the drug. A brown trout in particular can be addicted to illegal drug methamphetamine when it accumulates in waterways, according to some brand new researcher data.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Researchers led by Pavel Horky, now that's a name. Pavel Horky. I am Pavel Horky. a behavioral eco-ecologist, ecologist. You got a right, ecologist. Ecologist. Why is that having a hard time coming out of my face? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:34 He's from the Czech University of Life Sciences in Prague. Set out to investigate whether illicit drugs alter fish behavior at levels found in bodies of water. According to the study, it was just published last Tuesday. The team put 40 brown trout into a tank of water containing a level of meth. that had been found in freshwater rivers for a period of eight weeks before transferring them back to a clean tank. Then every other day, the researchers checked whether the trout were suffering from meth withdrawal by giving them a choice between water containing the drug and water without. A further 40 trout were used in the control group.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Trout that had spent eight weeks in water containing meth selected water containing the drug in the four days after moving to the freshwater. They're hooked! They're hooked on the stuff, Brian. How now, Brown Trout? Yeah, how now? Brown Traplains, normally a cow, right? Yeah. For a second there, I went, am I going to Mandela effect, brown cow?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Wait, was it always Trout? Because it sounded right when you said it. And then now it isn't right. Anyway, the trout had spent eight weeks in water-containing meth. They selected that, as I mentioned. This indicates they were suffering withdrawal because they sought out the drug when it became available according to the researchers. So maybe more study needs to be done.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But, yeah, it turns out. What happens when we eat those trout? Oh. I haven't thought of that. Do we get hooked ourselves? Like, oh, give me some more of that brown trout. Where can I get some more? Just one more, just one more brown trout.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Maybe it just means you'll never eat brown trout again unless it's full of meth. Yeah, I don't know if I've ever eaten brown trout. I've had rainbow trout. Yeah, rainbows good. Have a lot of rainbow trout here in Colorado, but I don't think I've ever had any other kind of trout. I've had brown trout. I've had lake trout. Or lake trout? I forget the name. Maybe that's not right. Rainbow, like you said, and there's another river trout that I've had, maybe. Shines of trout. Many trouts. Steelhead trout. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, steelhead trout. Sure. Cutthroat trout? Maybe. it's been so long but we used to like fish and eat them like back when I wanted to do things like camp Brooke trout
Starting point is 00:39:59 that's what I was going to say that's right Brooke trout T-B-T-Rout yeah that's the one There we go There's a there's a kind of trout called Splake
Starting point is 00:40:06 S-P-L-A-K-E Splake Wait splake trout Like that's the full time Just Splake Just Splake not even Not even called Splake Trout is just
Starting point is 00:40:15 Splake You'd be like I'd like some fried splake or a spake sandwich? Is it too early for a spake sandwich? Okay, it's a hybrid of a male brick trout and a female
Starting point is 00:40:29 lake trout. Oh, all right. They should have just called it Blake. Yeah, Blake. Blake. You want some Blake? Mm, breaded Blake. Well, anyway, careful fish. You never know what's in that next river is all on. So that's a lesson there.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Speaking of bodies and chemicals and one that's close and dear to my heart. Men with low testosterone are more likely to die from COVID-19. Oh, man. Oh, no. Low-T, low-T. Well, thankfully, my latest test and we'll do, we have one, I have one more follow-up tomorrow morning before the show. My numbers are back in line, so if I, if I twer to get COVID-19,
Starting point is 00:41:10 I would have less of whatever this problem is. But let's read about it. Men with symptomatic COVID-19 were found to have low testosterone, that were found to also have low testosterone following it admittance to a hospital were more likely to become severely ill and often die from the disease, according to new research. The study carried out in Milan during the first wave of the coronavirus in 2020 found that the lower levels of testosterone meant the higher the likelihood of the male patients would need intensive care, be intubated on a ventilator, and remain in the hospital over longer periods of time. Their likelihood of dying increased six-fold, six times higher if you had the low-tee, low-tee, low-te. Wow. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Findings are being presented to the European Association of Urology. Professor Andrea Solonoli Solononia. Solonia. Is that right? Yeah, he totally got it. Absolutely. And his colleagues at the San Rafael University Hospital in Milan compared 286 male COVID patients who came to an emergency room with 305 healthy male volunteers who attended hospital
Starting point is 00:42:14 to give blood between February and May of 2020. They checked out both patients and volunteers for levels of male hormones, including testosterone, and the T is measured in nanomoles per liter. Nanomoles. I like that. Nanomoles.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And 9.2 or below. Anomalies. Yeah, anomalies, basically. 9.2 are below's deemed the threshold for low testosterone, and that's no good. Nearly 90% of the patients had testosterone below this level. That's actually pretty normal because most dudes you're going to have lower tea as you get older.
Starting point is 00:42:46 You just do. Some of you, me included, for some reason, lost a ton. About two years ago. About two years ago, mine went, er. Thrown in the harbor. They don't even know why. She's like, it just happens.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It's whatever. So they give you these shots, and now mine are in normal range now. But they also had other stuff like pre-existing conditions and body mass index. were also taken to an account and these hormonal profiles were still pretty stark. So, so get your tea checked, I guess. I don't know. There's ways to fix it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's not hard either or that expensive. They just give you a bunch of shots and you put them in your bum. Yeah, good. That's where you put them. Bum tea shots. Didn't I get one of those on the air ones? You did on the show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And not only was it fun originally, but it was even more fun in the mashup that, uh, yeah, But Jamie put together. It did work out pretty well for everyone involved. All right. Here's a story that you'll love. I love it. I do love it. British Airways in the news.
Starting point is 00:43:56 That's an airline, everybody. That's really good food, by the way. I love flying British Airways, yeah. Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's cool. It was airplane food that I was happy to consume. It's great. That's a rare thing to say ever, to ever hear.
Starting point is 00:44:12 for anyone say you never hear that no you never know i only only fly for the food yeah well uh the b a flight that in question here was forced to land early and a bunch of people had to be put in hotels and stuff on the on the dime of the company because of quote a smelly poo i love i love that certain parts of the world just call it a poo yeah just a poo it's a poo yeah what kind of poo. What's that on the ground? Yeah. Is it a, is it a dirty poo? Sure. Mostly a smelly poo. Anyway, the plane was headed from Heathrow to Dubai on Thursday. A seven-hour flight. That's a big one. A bishkek Sajdev. Yeah. Who was on board tweeted insane. Our BA flight to Dubai returned back to Heathrow because of a smelly poo. I love it. It says he told the newspaper the pilot made an announcement.
Starting point is 00:45:08 been requesting senior cabin crew. We knew something was a bit odd. About 10 minutes later, he said, you may have noticed there was quite a pungent smell coming from one of the toilets. He said it was a liquid fecal excrement. Those were the words he used. The plane had been airborne for just 30 minutes
Starting point is 00:45:24 when it turned around. The next available flight was 15 hours later. So passengers had to be put up in hotels overnight. Speaking to Radio 1's, Greg, James, Sarah, who works for the airline, said, quote, when you're up at that altitude and the cavern has to be pressurized So the problem is that anything like that is actually a health and safety problem
Starting point is 00:45:43 because only 50% of the air is being recycled and cleaned. In a statement, B.A. said a decision was taken to turn, return for the safety and comfort of our customers on board. We were very sorry for the discomfort of our customers, they said. We provided them with a hotel accommodation and reschedule the flight departing the very next day. I'm trying to imagine how I would feel. Like if you said, all right, we're turning it around because of a smelly poo. I would go, I don't know what I'd think.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I'd think that was... What if you were the guy? What if you were the poor SOP and 22F who just came back from the bathroom? I can't have any. I'm sorry. All they had in the terminal was bean burritos. That's all they had. Yeah, I feel, you know, like, this story obviously doesn't identify the culprit, but I...
Starting point is 00:46:34 But they all know who is. They know who they are right now. They know who they are. know that this story is a BBC.com, right? We're not talking about some crappy New York posting. Legit. Legit source. So you, whoever you are, you know, you know what you did.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It amazes me, though, that, all right, so took off 30 minutes in the air, turning around, coming back, so another 30 minutes. So they're an hour late. But they can't just like, all right, everybody off the plane, we're going to put you in the gate for a minute while we clean the bathroom for 15 minutes. Yeah, why not that? why not that now that you say it that seems
Starting point is 00:47:11 why 15 hours like oh this plane is we have to throw this plane away we need a new plane this plane is retiring this one yeah just burn this one it's it's too far gone too two damage to fly again
Starting point is 00:47:26 but like I get the whole like I'm no I'm no flight expert but I understand the knock on effect of a schedule bump and you know whatever delay you have there then delays the next thing and the next thing and the next thing and the by taxing, and then suddenly all the airlines have some delay because of one thing. So I get that, but it does seem, it seems extreme, 15 hours, and that whole, that just seems
Starting point is 00:47:49 extreme to me. I don't know why. It does. It totally does. But no one likes to smell. Sorry, we're putting you up at a hotel because no one here is qualified to, uh, to Lysol a toilet. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Not one of you. Yeah. Uh, finally, this is interesting. Speaking of the COVID vaccine, these ding-dongs in India, there was a bit of a scam. Here's what happened. Thousands thought they were getting a COVID-19 vaccine. They were actually injected with salt water instead.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Jeez. Yeah. Heads are going to roll on this one. Thousands of people fell prey to an elaborate, wide-ranging scam selling fake coronavirus vaccines in India with doctors and medical workers among those arrested for their involvement. at least 12 fake vaccination drives were held in or near the financial hub of Mumbai, the country's western state. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:48:46 This is from their police department. They were using saline water and injecting it. Every fake vaccine camp that they had, they were doing this, he says. It wasn't even Chuck Norris water. They could have used Chuck Norris water, at least. Right, because clearly, I forgot that. their slogan. I was going to read that. I was going to say their slogan. Round House of Refreshment.
Starting point is 00:49:10 There you go. Roundhouse. Roundhouse of refreshment is a lot better than what they chose. That's right. Let's just admit it. 2,500 people are giving the fake shots. Organizers charge their victims' fees also. They earned about 28 grand in total
Starting point is 00:49:30 in U.S. dollars. We have arrested doctors, he said. They were using a hospital that was producing the fake certificate It's virals and syringes. That's a mouthful. So far, 14 people have been arrested on suspicion of cheating, attempts at a culpable homicide, criminal conspiracy, and other charges. They expect more arrests coming.
Starting point is 00:49:50 India was ravaged by a second wave of coronavirus between April and June, which infected millions, killed tens of thousands nationwide. And they've got that Delta variant business over there, man. So that's not nice at all. yeah no that sucks what a rotten way to like they're already yeah they're already struggling to get people vaccinated in india and they're pulling this yeah flame do some dupuses taking advantage of this so yeah well done guys well done you've done it all right we're gonna take a break when we come back my sister windy will enter the building and uh be here live on camera so we look forward to that
Starting point is 00:50:26 before that though a song selection from brian's giant jukebox of joy what do you got yeah this is cool so this is a band called immersion and the band features Colin Newman of the band Wire from 90's influential UK band Wire this is an instrumental track that
Starting point is 00:50:47 I heard and said I have to buy the entire album now and it's not out yet it doesn't come out until September 4th via swim records but my God this is so good so this is immersion featuring Ulrich Schnauss Ulrich Schnauss
Starting point is 00:51:02 The song is called Skylarks. Get ready for some really cool electronic instrumentals here. Once again, the band is Immersion. I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to do. So, you know, And so,
Starting point is 00:52:07 no, ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Starting point is 00:52:15 ... ... You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. You know, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:44 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You know, yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:51 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the man, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I'm going to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be. You know, Noted throat specialists made weekly examinations and reported not one single case of throat irritation due to smoking camels. I remember.
Starting point is 00:56:01 All right, we're back, everybody. Brian, that song again was. Well, that song again is Skylarks, performed by Immersion and Ulrich Schnauss from the upcoming album Nanocluster, which comes out in September. Fantastic. You guys, get ready because your minds will be blown by how we've folded the country into itself. My sister Wendy is in studio with us today doing Therapy Thursday live. Wendy, welcome to the show. Hello.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Oh, look at you. She sounds so nice. Doesn't she sound nice? She sound all warm and like on a mic and stuff. Yeah, that's great. Not on like a little child's handheld phone crap. Yeah, you're not, this is a really old boy. I just saw Peter poke his head and then took off again.
Starting point is 00:56:47 He can totally watch you do this if you want to. I don't know where you're out. No. Wendy's here with her kids and her husband, although he's not here with you physically today. No. Hanging out with family? He's working. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He's here in spirit. He's here with her in spirit. Yeah, in theory and spirit. He's here. It's good to have you here. we're going to, I think, have some fun with this, just because, I don't know, when people are live, it changes the dynamic and why not change the dynamic, I always say. We're going to wrestle at some point.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Yeah, we're going to wrestle, so that camera is here for a reason. All right, well, let's just dive in. I'm going to read this email, and you've, I actually sent this to you before we all met up for the reunion. How did the end of that go? It was great. It was fine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 We felt dumb because months ago, when this all got planned, And we were told the first through the fourth. So those are the days that we locked in at the place. And everyone else did the second through the fifth. So we left it like a day before everyone else did. And we felt kind of bad about it. But we didn't know what else to do because we, you know, we'd only booked the thing and you couldn't change it very easy and all that.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Nah, it was good. It was nice to see everybody. You didn't miss anything. Was there any kind of big finale, like a big crescendo? A big breakfast where we, well, here's what I learned about our family. We will go to a coordinated location. We will talk for two hours randomly to each other. And then we try to decide something to do.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's another hour discussion. And then only outlaws make decisions. So they then say, hey, how about we just do this? And then we all go, okay. So that was over and over and over. And that happened the last day as well. We went to breakfast. Oh, that sounds nice.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Talked for three hours in breakfast, walked out, talked in the bargain law for another hour. Yeah. We do do that. Why is that? Is that every family or is it just us? We just, I don't know, we're avoiding actual activities. I don't know. I don't know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It was a really good time. Yeah, I'm glad. There was it worth a 20-hour drive, and then the other 20 you're going to have to do back. Yeah, I want to put it that way. No. 40 hours of driving, man. Yeah. Oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And you know what? You get just used to the nothingness in the Wyoming's. Oh, yeah. There's nothing there. No offense. Oh, it's another field. Great. Excellent. It's beautiful in its own way. Yeah, in its own dirty Mad Max sort of dystopian way.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, where you're constantly like, does everyone have water? That's the feeling. It's very stressful. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, we're going to dive right in. So this is actually an email I sent to you before we all met up and you said great. And it was just sort of like, all right, when we do figure this out, well, this will be the one we'll do. Real quick, before you read it. Yeah, yeah. If I were a betting person, which I would be never because I'm terrible. terrible at this, but I could not recall what this email is about for $1 million. I could not. So this would be fresh. Like I've never heard it. Sorry if I don't sound prepared. No, this is what's great. This is what's great because, well, A, you were rushing around to get here. I apparently got a little lost in the neighborhood's up here, which is totally normal. Everyone does.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And ironically, the layout up here is based on this, this mega millionaire Minnesota person who designed it. Yeah, it's his fault. You'd think, oh, wow, Wendy's from Minnesota. She'll come and just, it'll be like home or like new home, but not exactly. But anyway, you made it perfectly on time. You sound good. The mic's good. You look good on camera.
Starting point is 01:00:15 What else could we ask for, really? If I give crappy advice, you'll just let it go because I got here on time. Right. But then some people, think of it this way. People walk into your office and they sit down and they have stuff they want to tell you that you're not prepared for. Totally. Because you don't know yet. I actually prefer not knowing.
Starting point is 01:00:29 See, there you go. So here we are. All right. I'm going to read this then. This is from Anonymous who says, I have a rough one for you guys. Please keep it anonymous. Don't even use my initial. All right, we won't do that. It says, I don't know how to word this question, so I will just tell you the situation.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I come from a broken home. They went through a nasty divorce when I was 11. I assume that means their parents. And they were used as pawns through a five-year nasty settlement. Both my dad and my mom have been married for 20-plus years now. My mom has always been the toxic one. textbook narcissist master manipulator will do and say whatever is to warrant the outcome that she is looking for but it's always two to three levels down so you know it's effed up but you can't
Starting point is 01:01:12 find or so you can't always put your finger on why it's effed up my family of four two young kids deserve better and we're removed we've removed her from our life as she was toxic with my mom as the villain in the story it was always easy to give my dad a pass on a lot of crap i wore rose color glasses with him for many years. I put up with a lot of things I should not have put up with. I already cut ties with my mom. I just wanted a dad. That role was never assumed. At the most, I got a friend who sometimes shares their life but doesn't really invest in mine. It's all about him and his life and his new family and one kid with his new wife, for example, and they are his priority, not us. Over the weekend, a situation arose where I needed to take a step back from
Starting point is 01:01:51 my relationship and I ceased communications so that I could, or sorry, so I could think. I found out that a sibling, through a sibling that some things that were said by him about me that literally felt like I was getting stabbed through the heart. A hard thing to read from someone you should love to, should love unconditionally. I had to make the hard decision to cut him out of my life. It's been dawning on me that it was not so different from my mom. It's just as, he's just as much of a narcissist and doesn't consider us a priority in his life. I now have no comment, or excuse me, contact with my mom or dad. I feel very empty now. I have. I have, have my wife's parents thankfully, but I'm left with a feeling of being very hollow.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I also, or sorry, I am not sure how to move forward with any of this. Any help would be appreciated for free to let me know if you want further information and that you don't need to, or that you don't want to read on air anonymous. Okay. So finding, finding out, taking sides early because you thought one was the problem and then later on it turns out the other one kind of sucks too. They're both a problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 And now you're like, Oh, man, everyone sucks. So what do you do? What do you say? Where do you want to go with this one? Okay, let's start with a couple basics. One is the just inexhaustible depth for a child to want to please their parent as well as to be loved unconditionally. So there was the line in there that it was noteworthy, which is, I should just begin.
Starting point is 01:03:27 unconditional love. Yeah. And instead I'm getting stabbed in the heart, right? Yeah. So there is this, it's so primal and, you know, we could just assume it's a survival, you know, core to it or something. But that there is this deep, deep need to have the parents that give us what we need, to keep us safe, give us unconditional love.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And so that is the core for everybody. It's just for everybody. Some people are lucky enough to get pretty close to that with a parent or parents. And then there's all the levels in between, right? So a toxic mom, dad situation, it's kind of, I was just thinking of Allie's eyes. She has strabismus in both eyes, but we didn't know until we fixed one. Then the other one went, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And it's just how whoever's screaming the loudest sometimes seems like, well, we're going to make that the bad guy when really there's a combination happening or whatever. So that realization is, again, coming back to this core thing, it's a hit to this thing that you're desperately wanting, mom's not giving it. And to handle mom not being able to be the mother you need, then we're going to make dad actually, we're going to give him a lot of passes, give him more credit than he maybe deserves because you want so badly for it not to be what it might be. And that's where this gets so tricky in it. And anyone listening who has a parent. is going to have some... Whoa, you're making me louder. Sorry. Freaking me out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:00 No, you're good. I forget with your headphones on. You're going to hear me make adjustments like that, but I just had to turn it up a little bit. Sorry. Right. And I can't like pause when my dog barks or anything. Like I'm like, where's my mute button? Anyway.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Okay, yeah. Anyway, so it really is... So I just want to start with that. That there is this very universal and it's, it makes sense. We all have it. When you see a family that you're like, wow you guys this is great well it's because what you're seeing is that kids feel safe and parents have the capacity to meet those needs and you know it's all good but we all have that
Starting point is 01:05:37 need it's all really strong and for this anonymous person it sounds like there's a lot of compensation and a lot of managing that has happened in their young life to handle parents that were not parenting the way they needed them to parent right um and so that compensation that the mind mental gymnastics you have to do to handle that, that's where we get, you know, lots of disturbing experiences, feelings, behaviors that, you know, can stem from that. And so they didn't mention much about their behavior,
Starting point is 01:06:11 but I would just note that that sometimes that comes out in how we are living our lives as opposed to just simply we're recipients of bad parenting. We maybe are picking partners or making business decisions or, were driven in certain ways because of a hole there or the pain there or whatever. So that's kind of, they didn't mention that, but that is something to note that there is an impact from this. So do you, so is it, is it too easy for people?
Starting point is 01:06:37 I know it's too easy for me to do this. Like sometimes it's easy for me to take blame for something that's going wrong in my life and go, well, that's because mom raised me to think I was the sensitive one. And now I just have to live up to this weird version of me that she thinks is. real and I've never been able to pull away from that entire like I I've got a whole mythology around that yeah that I don't think is that the older I've gotten the more I realize I don't think it's correct at least not 100% correct like do those things have an effect absolutely they do do they annoying me sometimes yes but is it is it the life
Starting point is 01:07:16 determiner that I've that I give it the power of probably not well let me ask question how does it help you to have that story it helps me justify something so like if i'm um you know what let's say when i was really dealing with heavy anxiety stuff it was easier to justify some of that away because i would say well this is you know kind of mom's fault for for overprotecting and and being all worried about little things too much and and shielding me from you know stuff that maybe would have hardened me a little bit to to some of that or whatever Whatever. I just kind of made it up as I went along, but it was easy for me to do that because when you're scrambling for answers, it's like, well, what is with this anxiety? And then you're like, well, what can I do to get it? And then you realize, well, wait, for me to conquer it, I have to conquer this lifelong thing that I blame on my mom, which isn't, you know, I realize this time has gone on. That is not fair. But there's still, there's still like a scapegoaty quality to it.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. And it's a shortcut to pseudo safety. I should maybe call it that, right? Which is, well, there's a reason and here's an explanation and there's somebody to blame and there's the story itself. I mean, humans, we love our stories, right? And our stories, we tell ourselves are for protection. We rarely tell ourselves a story to figure out our lives that makes, you know, that's over the other directions. It's usually a, it's somebody else. this is fault, um, this is how I have to deal with these things because, and it keeps us stuck. There's the irony, right? Like the actual getting better or feeling better doesn't come from hanging on to these stories. But they come from a place of protection and, and we come by them honestly, right? Like you, you listen to anyone talk. Um, I had a conversation recently with someone who was expressing their experience with being treated poorly and thinking it's racism and not sure if it is or not, and the person they're talking to is also a person of color who is like, that's not what's happening. And so you're suddenly, you know, how do you, who models to you
Starting point is 01:09:31 what you get to think or feel or what the story gets to be, right? So often parents are modeling a story. They're saying, oh, quit your whining. Your feelings don't matter. Or sort of they, they have their, their things they do to keep themselves comfortable. So maybe at the core, there is a thing we do where we just want to be okay. So if someone comes at me with pain and I don't know what to do with it, I'm going to, I have a quick story like, well, be grateful. You know, there's always like a quick burp-a-doo and now you're fine. And really it's about me being uncomfortable,
Starting point is 01:10:07 not knowing what to do with the pain you just showed me. And so it's kind of rare and everyone maybe has hopefully at least one person in their life who can just hold space for that. like it does they don't make it about them they can just keep it you know enough room for you to feel and work through something and they don't need to jump in and change it or fix it or alter the story um so that's a common part so okay so let's go back to that this idea though is that once mom the story that because that's a story the story is that mom was all bad yeah and what's very common and people people always say to me I need you to help my brother or sister you know
Starting point is 01:10:45 some family member and they're in a terrible marriage or their kids are horrible whatever and they give me the one side and so that is really common someone comes in to counseling they give me their side and you're with them and you're listening and you're like yeah wow that person does sound like a narcissistic psycho okay and then I get to meet the other person and I go oh the other side of the story turns out the other person kind of seems like a narcissistic psych about too how is that possible and not to say there are narcissists out there, but that's a common clue to me when anyone says their partner's a narcissist. I'm like, well, actually, it might be just that you're married and that the two of you
Starting point is 01:11:26 need some help. And then they're legit narcissists, so don't get me wrong. But anyway, so it's the two stories, and this is where that story thing comes in. Those two stories are real for each person. They're protective for each person. We have a bit of a denial about our role in things. And so, mom sort of gets out of the picture and you think finally all the toxicity's gone well there's no way mom that toxic and dad weren't toxic together so they're both problematic it's just one you know how do you know so how do you know when you um how do we put this it's like so that that that thing i used to kind of blame on mom then for my anxiety anxiety issues i'm doing it begin with stress eating a little bit.
Starting point is 01:12:16 So I tend to stress eat now, which used to be the opposite. I used to stress starve. Like I would not eat because stress would make me just not eat. I'd feel gross all the time, so I wouldn't eat. These days, I don't know what changed in my physiology, but now I just want to eat when I'm stressed. So something bad's going on. It's like, give me a bag of something, give me a thing.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Like, yeah, I've given up on sugar, but it hasn't stopped me from eating too much of other things when stresses are high. and you know pandemic did not help with lowering stress that was my experience um and so i guess what i'm saying is i'm doing it again where i'm like oh my whole life mom made crispy creamy things for every moment of the stressful day and and and it's easy for me like like right now after her surgery she she lost a bunch of weight with surgery and she and she was moving around better and all of that and she's gained most of it back and she's in much better place mentally and and sort of you know all of that clarity and stuff is is there but she's now slower again
Starting point is 01:13:21 and kind of hard to get up and and she's not getting any younger and so there's concern you know health concerns and all that and I just go ha ha just like me with the stress eating right yeah I don't know why I do that like why can I just go I eat when I stress and I need to fix that but not have this thought of whose other fault is it yeah you know right yeah well go to therapy i mean because because i mean this is my advice for this person as well is that it first of all when you like go tell a buddy right what are they going to tell you they're going to tell you their story and that's that's what's tricky is i always say it'd be great if the world didn't need therapist because people were really good listeners and held space for each other to feel
Starting point is 01:14:10 what we feel. But the truth is, it's really hard to do it if you're not meant to do it and know that's what you're doing. And some people can for sure. And they're not therapists. But this idea, though, that you tell me a story. Now, I'm hearing it's my stuff, right, gets pulled up. And so someone who is constantly practicing to keep their stuff in check and check their own biases and you know you just have a better chance of having a less you know tainted interaction so you you want to blame mom yeah for these things i do and and here's the thing what's bad what bad thing happens what's the consequence of blaming mom how is there i just don't i don't get anywhere with it because the other thing is i'm not going to like imagine a night where i sit down with mom and go
Starting point is 01:14:57 mom let's talk about this eating dish and deal like it's never going to happen so uh it's just a weird thing I have in my own head and it's not going to get me anywhere and it just waste time and it's dumb. It's just dumb. And I know it's dumb. But I still, part of me still like, yeah, mom did it. I don't know why. I don't know why I blame mom for stuff like that. Well, I'm not going to do actual therapy with you right now, but I could. I could because when you say that, so a part of me wants to always blame mom. Well, why? And what part is that and where to come from? And so you work with that. So that's what the person, the not your sister person helps you do that. And so for this person's, in this person's case, you know, there is a long history of pain. And like they said, like three
Starting point is 01:15:47 layers down. Like that's, that's rough stuff, right? And so you're not going to get through that by just being grateful that your partner's parents are cool. That's nice. It helps you go, yay, I got, some people are good in my life or whatever. And that's important. I'm not discounting that. It's that the actual sort of pain of being the child, you know, you think of a kid sort of holding their breath for parts of their life to just get through. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That means you didn't sort of do other things. You learned skills to handle a mom who was not doing well. And then conversely, you're faced with a father who also couldn't do those things for you and is clearly not still not doing those. things for you. So that is loss. That is grief. That is abandonment. That is orphanage time. Like you are, it doesn't matter how old you are to have that realization that you aren't prioritized, AKA feel lovable or loved enough. I mean, that is really damaging stuff to be facing now. Again, our stories keep us from facing it. Yeah. And that's where
Starting point is 01:16:54 he's reaching out or she's reaching out or they are reaching out to say, hey, this sucks and and what do I do? And that's a great beginning. And you just have to keep going. What often happens is people just box it up, keep living their lives, use their short little blippy stories of, well, I'm just lucky that my in-laws are cool, or I'm just lucky that my own kids have a good dad, or, you know, whatever you might do to try to quell the part that goes, I'm in pain here.
Starting point is 01:17:21 This is not okay. And usually that part is covered up by something like, it's my mom's fault that I eat. I don't know. Yeah. So is it like a death almost? In this person's situation, it's not that different, right? Because the description of the feeling of loss that I get from these two parents being, you know, not taken away in a mortal way.
Starting point is 01:17:49 But it feels very similar to like dad dying, like where it's like, oh, geez, I can't do anything about this. that feeling is probably not that different, right? No, it's exactly the same except way worse. Yeah. Way worse because with a death, they can't accidentally show up at your grocery store at the same time and be like, oh, why don't you call? Or, you know, like the guilt trips or the, like, you know them. You've spent your whole life knowing how they operate. And your system has been built to survive that.
Starting point is 01:18:22 So you are, as you deconstruct or you heal or you do all that grieving. work, they can still show up. And sometimes you will think you're ready to then interact with them again. And maybe you are, maybe you're not. I mean, it's like the question isn't solved by a grave. Like the grave goes, yep, we're done. So when I work with people whose parent has passed away, it's so much easier. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Because they can really do the work of grieving and they can get to the anger and letting it go and all the good stuff. And when they're still alive, sometimes it's just drawn. that boundary that first I'm not going to interact with you boundary it takes a lot out of you plus they're still going to have to deal with that finality eventually anyway so they so they have to deal with the the everyday loss of the living person's extraction from your life or whatever issues yeah and then eventually they're going to be on their deathbed and they're going to die and you're going to then have to deal with that other stuff anyway
Starting point is 01:19:23 arrangements and all that stuff yeah but then layer on top of that that all the unresolved stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that is worse. Well, plus everyone with their own story coming at you. Yeah, that is worse. Like, well, you just, because families have a, every family has, I mean, our family gets in groups and talks for three hours and then moves five feet and talks for another
Starting point is 01:19:45 hour. That's what we do. Yep. And here's what's weird is I'd never seen it before. Just to have, I don't know, there was something like, oh, is this who, this is what we do. Well, this is not that big a deal, right? And we've always done it. We've always done it.
Starting point is 01:20:00 We just don't notice. Right. And this is the soup you swim in when you're in a family. You may not know the weird things that you do or the dysfunctional or unhealthy things that you do until there's some space or there's some. And often, like this email person says, is that they get to join like a normal healthy family. Yeah. And so that contrast starts to show up often when you are now modeled different ways of being and living. and living and, you know, you kind of have, you go, whoa, we do weird things. And as that
Starting point is 01:20:34 stuff cracks open, you got to understand, it doesn't crack open. No five-year-old's like, I'm out of this dysfunctional family. And I wish they could because, man, I wouldn't have a job. But there really is like not a break from that until, A, your brain develops further and you have some other experiences. Yeah. And then, you know, setting boundaries is difficult. So they're at the setting the boundary of we will not interact and that is just step how's how's this metaphor you can't find the exits until you've explored the building good you like that one uh by the way anyone who was like uh hey scott why is scott weird and says dumb it has says weird things sometimes i would like to remind you that windy today made the comment that it's uh the family soup you're
Starting point is 01:21:22 swimming in i just want to i just want to put that out there that I'm not the only one. This is a Johnson trait. I don't even think that's weird. I think it's just normal. It's how we talk. Swim in the soup of your family. Swimming in the soup of your family.
Starting point is 01:21:34 What is your family soup flavor? Yeah. Ours is tomato soup with saltine crackers. Yeah, salting crackers and tomato soup from Campbell's. That's the flavor of our family should have. Well, all right. So if obviously your first and foremost thing here would be this person should mean you be talking to somebody.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yes. right um but it does feel like there's a path here just on the surface of it because a lot of these stories like i keep going back to stuff in our own family that's how you relate but like it reminds me of dad um or to some degree dylan i won't get into reasons why in detail here but coming from families where the dynamic was rough or hard or um you know whatever and it felt patterny like you were going to continue the cycle, but they break it, they, this feels like this. Yes. This person is already breaking the cycle, maybe doesn't even really truly know it yet by
Starting point is 01:22:35 being a good dad and by being a good husband and by avoiding those, those traps or whatever, but it doesn't mean that those people aren't injured by it. Yeah. So. Oh, they're very injured by it. Yeah. So think of it as, you know, the chain breaker, it's, really hard to break that chain.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah. And they carry the wounds of breaking a chain. One being, you know, some of our core fears as humans, which is the fear of abandonment, right? So you're going to draw some lines and break the chain and I'm not going to participate in this anymore and I'm going to do something different. You have chosen abandonment. You've broken family rules, the secrets that the family holds. You're suddenly exposing them.
Starting point is 01:23:24 all of those dynamics, you're going against everything that system has reinforced again and again is your survival and the way you'll be loved. So a great way to think about this. I read this recently and it's just so true and put it on your t-shirts, which is, you know, advice for parents, which is, you know, however you treat your child equates love to them. so if you are gentle and kind that means love if you are loud and screaming that means love if you play games and manipulate them that means love so when they move on to uh their regular life they're going to find that stuff familiar and it's a form of love and so you know no one's
Starting point is 01:24:13 perfect and people are going to make mistakes but sort of as a general how are you true how are you teaching them love is not how you are actually loving. It's how you're treating them because it just becomes familiar. So you'll often find people who grew up in very controlling environments and they're suddenly with somebody who's really abusive and terrible and very controlling. And everyone's like, how does it happen? Well, it happens, not always, but very commonly is that, well, maybe mom controlled all your moves. You were grounded all the time or you were only allowed to see this person or that person. And so just to have so much of your life controlled, even though you're running away from
Starting point is 01:24:50 mom, you run right into the same thing because it is love, it is familiar, and obviously breaking that is really difficult. So maybe overall we should congratulate this person on the courage to do this. Yeah, I agree. This is insanely hard. Okay, Wendy's hearing this for the first time. There's a siren outside and my dogs. Oh, that's what I hear, because I'm hearing it out too.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah, her microphone picks this up way better than yours. I've got the way I have her mic faced and the door's cracked open so you can hear it. But they are out there having a, they're losing it because there's a siren. That's what they do. So it's good to know they're normal in that way after the, after four days away from us. Yeah, there you go. And then here's the problem. One will hear the sirens.
Starting point is 01:25:32 It's usually rainer and she'll br-and then the other two will feed off of that. And then it becomes the siren could be a billion miles away now. Now it's just this three-way like who's going to stop first. And it's usually none of them. They'll just keep going. It's really dumb. It was cute. I thought I was...
Starting point is 01:25:47 You should expand into animal therapy. No. Animals are therapy. They don't need... Oh, they are therapy. But what if you got one that's like been abused or mistreated or, you know? Yeah, well, they need help to you. They need help as well.
Starting point is 01:26:01 They need more than I can give them. Give them some soup. Yeah, give them some soup. Some family soup. So we can get back to this, but I'll tell you a very cute story. So we're walking in. There's some dude sitting in your front yard. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:26:12 With water and some, like a popsicle or something. It's just kind of an old guy. Yeah. And I'm like... My front yard? You're front yard right by your steps. Okay. So I walk in and I was like, well, hi.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And he says, I have heard of Southern hospitality, but I have never experienced it. What? And I'm like, excuse me? And he's like, I'm just, my daughter or my granddaughter's getting her hair cut. And I was just waiting in the car. And is she your sister? Oh, my sister. So she's out there.
Starting point is 01:26:43 He's out there in this lounge chair. I was like, enjoy this other hospital. Her name is Kim. She's here every day. Yeah, she does this. It was so cute. If you look hot or in trouble or if you're even in your car and look bored, if Kim is around and she has something to bring you, she'll bring it.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Which she does. She's got a Mary Poppins bag. She really does. She is Mary Poppins in a weird way. But, well, that's funny. I had no idea that that happened. I guess she just got here. Yeah, that's very cute.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Anyway, sorry. All right. So back to the thing. Any other remnants of advice we would want to give this person before we send them on their way? Yeah. I would say this. Just be really gentle with yourself as you do this. Meaning like, first of all, some of the strategies that they have probably used to survive
Starting point is 01:27:35 has would preclude them from getting help. Right? So only people who need help are blank. You know, whoever, however the family talked about this type of stuff, right? How did they close feedback loops? So, for example, if they were nuts on the PTA and all the local moms hated her or something, you know, how did they tell that story? Yeah. Oh, well, they're all richy nerds or, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:28:02 They have some way to deflect accountability and, you know, taking a good look at themselves, right? And so they've spent their life managing their folks's situation in the way they handle things and the way they interact with them and their favoritism or whatever they do. Right. And so to know that like getting help might be the thing, might be like, oh, well, that's not a thing I can do. But here's what I can promise. Even just one hour with someone who's good, you will feel a million times better. Just that the crazy that you, the crazy that you, you have felt and thought was maybe normal, like someone can help you validate that that isn't got their own story involved can just be really powerful. So know that this is not easy, quick, go do that. But there are maybe barriers to actually processing this. Hanging onto it the rest of your life, I mean, it's going to show up. That's just how it is. But someone can really help you work through it. Yeah. And as usual, the finding of the people that can help you is
Starting point is 01:29:08 depending on what where you live, what your insurance looks like. It's all those things, right? Yeah. Those factors are annoying. It's all the things I hate. Yeah. Stuff that they're broad blocks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:18 They're really difficult. Because you're already dealing with the hard thing and now you've got to go, oh, not on top of this. My insurance doesn't cover, okay, I guess I'm talking to a different guy. Well, he sucks and now I got to find it. You're like, that seemed broken, man. It is. It's the disease model and it's medical model, not actual wellness model, which let's change
Starting point is 01:29:37 that, yo. Yeah, also, we've got to read a file. So people that, people think that wellness is like a, like a hippie swear word. You know what I mean? Like, they think you say wellness and I go, oh, what are you going to do? Sell me some supplements. I understand. It's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:29:53 But it's one of those things like webinar. It's just a word I don't like. It's because we've used it so much. It's like moisture. Yeah, moisture. You guys think I'm the only one that have words I have. Trousers. Listen, when do you have the same ones?
Starting point is 01:30:06 Because we were born in the same soup. Yeah, we were born in the same soup. All right. Well, I want to wish this listener the best. And also, you know, if they run into some good stuff out of this, let us know. We always like feedback. Or if it doesn't work out, let us know. We'd love to maybe follow up and see how things are going.
Starting point is 01:30:26 And if they are struggling with finding somebody that would be a good fit, there's some really helpful ways to navigate that. So sometimes, and I do this. a lot with people when they need somebody. You go, and I think I've said out on the show before, go to psychology today.com. Okay. Which sounds so cheesy. I hate the name. It's like, here's a magazine.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Anyway. But they have this awesome search engine with therapists. And I think it's because so many continuing education courses offer free membership to be there. And so tons of therapists are on it. And you can put in your zip code, you can put in, and you use the filters to figure out, do you want a male or female or, you know, who, what? What groups are they friendly to? What are their theoretical models they're operating from?
Starting point is 01:31:11 What insurance they take. So it's super helpful. Is it just this main search window here on the front of page? It's just up there where it says, you know. So if I put my zip in here. Put your zip and then. Let me just see what happens. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Look at all these people. So you get to see their faces and they put a blurb about themselves. So I like to, when I help people do this, I always go through what they, the models they use. And in this case, I would love if the guy filtered for internal family systems and emotional focus therapy would be another good one. Tell me what this means that I'm looking at this and those in the chat can see the window I have opened. Yeah. Why is it that I'm drawn?
Starting point is 01:31:55 Like if I was looking? To the hot blonde. Uh, no. It's the opposite. Why am I drawn to the oldest lady I can find on here? Because you blame your mom. No, that's not why. That can't be why.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I guess what I'm saying is I don't want, this is the same for me as if I was getting a massage somewhere. Yeah. I don't want somebody young and hot. I don't want a dude. I want an experienced strong knuckled old lady. I don't know why. I feel like I trust that expertise more for some reason.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Well, there's a wisdom. I picked a good career to age in because you're like, and you're now more wise because you're old. Right. Yeah. I mean, everyone has their own reaction. This is funny. I helped someone in California find somebody and I helped someone where, oh, I think it was Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:32:42 And I did searches in both and I swear everyone in San Diego should have a modeling contract. And I was like, I don't trust any of them. And then in Minnesota, I was like, everyone here relates. Yeah, yeah, they relate. I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. I see somebody who's just got it. It's too good of a picture.
Starting point is 01:33:03 And I go, they worry more. about their appearance than they do doing quality work. There you go. They're great. Marie Bamford has this great joke. She's from Duluth, Minnesota. Yeah. And she says, I am a 10 in Duluth.
Starting point is 01:33:20 She's like, I'm a Minnesota 10, but I am a L.A. 2. Dude. Bamford is one of the funniest ladies in the history. She really is. She's so good. Anyway, so that's a great resource. You can read through and kind of get a vibe. And if you want to send me a message, I'm happy to help you navigate that.
Starting point is 01:33:36 a little bit on just the models they use. And sometimes there's code words and I'm like me or ooh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you have mom issues and dad issues here. So it's somebody who's really good
Starting point is 01:33:52 in family psychodynamic stuff is what you're looking for. And they can just help you grieve it and put it in its proper place and help you with strategies to move forward. This guy here, there's a guy named R. Mark Hinkley, Ph.D.
Starting point is 01:34:08 40 years of experience. That's all neat and everything. But it's a photo of this nice little old man holding his dog. See, it's almost like a Tinder profile. Yeah, a little bit. You got to figure out what is... Swip right on this guy. Anyway, all right.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Well, good stuff, Wendy. Are you going... What are your plans? You go into the pool? I don't know. I'm going to stay in this basement and look at your artwork. All my stuff. It's such a mess in here.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I meant to clean it more and like have a bunch of stuff moved around. But then I went, it's windy. Well, as long as this is within reach. Oh, yeah, look at this, you guys. Hold on. I'll hold that up. Is that what you got? Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:44 So, whoops, Wendy. Sorry, there it is. Which one is that? 2013. 2013, Peacock, or podcast People's Choice Award. Oh, yeah. You got a peacock award. And here's your Emmy over here.
Starting point is 01:34:56 We've got a potty. Yeah, we got an Emmy. There's also, there's a wookie over there. This? The vagina candle that came from a fan. You know, who sent us the vagina candle? I forgot. How's Cleo?
Starting point is 01:35:06 Oh, Cleo. Carrie, you know her. She had the daughter who passed away. You remember her? She gave me that. And you know what? It smells like a lovely bunch of flowers. Right, we just have a vagina smells.
Starting point is 01:35:19 It smells like a funeral. Yeah, exactly. It's amazing. Anyway, I have a lot of crap. People send me. Yeah, it's fun times. You should do a hoarding episode next time. We might want to.
Starting point is 01:35:29 I mean, it's a lot of cool nerd stuff. So the truth about my hoarding is if I ever, like Brian, if we ever needed to really get rid of it. all you just sell it and make a bank make bank on this totally yeah because it's all stuff i need to you know you did that ebay thing or you've been doing that ebay thing i need to get on that yeah i feel like i have a few things that need to go but when i was when i knew you were coming this week i'm like oh i'm going to clear this out the gym end will be all finished i'm going to have that the treadmill in front of the tv and all set up no i didn't do any of that get all the clothes the hangers off of it
Starting point is 01:35:58 i haven't had time the best part about the pandemic is this is everyone used to be able to do that And no one can do it anymore. No. There's still the thought. Like, I should. And then you're like, I'm not. I don't want him. I love it.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Welcome to real life. There's a little bit of that going on. All right. Well, Wendy, it's awesome to have you here. I wish we could do it more often than this. But distance being what it is, we'll deal with ones and zeros instead for future episodes. When are you actually going home? How long are you here?
Starting point is 01:36:26 Friday. Oh, my gosh. And then 20 hours on the road again. Wyoming, baby. Are you going to stay? So, wait, you stayed in Wyoming and you stayed in. one of the Dakotas, did I have that way? No, we stayed in Wyoming. We just stayed one night.
Starting point is 01:36:39 And then this one, we're going to try to go the whole way. You're going to go 20 hours nonstop? Yeah, because Abe can drive. So we've got three drivers and we'll just rotate and it's such a pain to get out and get back in a car the next day. Well, hold on, Abe's what, 17? Oh, he's 15. But he has a
Starting point is 01:36:55 permit and he needs some hours. And he's also pretty reliable. You know, he's got to set on straight. Give him those Wyoming hours. Totally. cruise control and don't even need to turn the steering wheel for a lot of that. Yeah, no kidding. Does he, I was going to say, I forgot now, totally forgot.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Does he work at Jimmy Johns? Oh, he works at Jimmy Johns. That's right. Ooh, that sounds good. I might have to do that time. Scott's question. Yeah, that was actually what I was going to ask. Because that sounds great.
Starting point is 01:37:25 I would love some Jimmy Johns right now. All right. Well, Wendy, have a fantastic time. You can leave when you run. I mean, when you're ready. You do what you want. Yeah. But we'll...
Starting point is 01:37:36 Oh, you turn the camera off, so I just watch you guys? Yeah, you want to... You stay, your hour. I'm turning you off. There we go. See, there's just us now. Okay. How long do you guys usually talk past?
Starting point is 01:37:46 When I go away? Oh, you can stay here. Keeps, hang around. Here how we finish this thing. Five, ten minutes. Yeah, we pretend to play a song after you. Yeah, we pretend a song gets played, later it gets edited in, which I'll do all after the show.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Okay. I'll be quiet unless I can't help myself. You don't have to be quiet. Well, you'll kind of have to because I have this button here that I can mute or anytime I need something. See, like right now, say something. See? Isn't that weird? No. All right. So, but feel free to pipe in if anything comes up. All right. We're going to go ahead and blow out of here. Although before we do, Jamie sent me something I need to play. So I always talk about, you know, on film sack, I have a segment that's what grossed me out the most in a movie
Starting point is 01:38:26 that we just saw. Or the idea of pooping in a plane sounds like a nightmare or I don't want to use somebody's Oculus Quest after it's been on their disgusting face. But you're okay putting somebody else's vape pen in your mouth. Right. If you're going to put somebody's vape pen in your mouth, put a little CBD in your face, then yeah. But apparently on this very show, I will do something very gross.
Starting point is 01:38:47 This is something Mike can't even believe I did. So it's short, but Jamie wanted me to play this. This is Scott using his finger to eat mustard. And I guess I did this. So here it is. Original Sin Mustard by the Lusty Monk. All right, let's open it up.
Starting point is 01:39:01 You already did. Oh, that is mustard, right? That is some mustard right there. Nutritionally speaking, it looks like it's got a little bit of fat because I can tell there's definitely kind of a mayo thing going on. All right, let's try it out. Now, I'm just dipping fingers here because I don't have any things. I have organic bunny-shaped pretzels.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Oh, that's fantastic. Oh, okay, we've got to make a sandwich with this. Yeah, okay. I'm never doing that again. Why'd you use your fingers in there? That's terrible. I know. For someone who, like, we went off on a whole thing about chicken wings and like, oh, there's sauce on my fingers.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Gross as me. I'm all over it. But you're like, oh. People who lick their fingers after they got chicken stuff on it. You know what? Let's ask an expert. Wendy, oops, wrong button. Do you ever, when you get chicken wings and your hands get covered in sauce, do you lick your fingers?
Starting point is 01:39:54 No. Is it gross? Why is she an expert on that, though? I am an expert. I don't know It's just like maybe a polite rule of society But like kids with Cheetos I feel like you learn that pretty young
Starting point is 01:40:05 Like stop licking the That's how I feel normally But like what I did right on the air I don't know what I'm not putting my entire finger In my mouth and go But you know I was like Just the tips yeah
Starting point is 01:40:16 That's okay Yeah it's fine Arizona ranch off my fingers Yum So like Van he's only two But he's discovered this So now he will If he gets stuff on his fingers
Starting point is 01:40:25 He's sucking the stuff off his fingers I'm like boy Oh, we're going to have to have a talk. A little grandparent-grandson discussion. It's disgusting. I'm going to teach you to be grossed out by something that you were fine with 10 minutes ago. We need therapy for one day because I'm going to make it a, I'm going to demonize licking your fingers. Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Exactly. All right. Well, there's that. Hopefully everyone enjoyed my weird mustard story. In the meantime, a reminder, we're going to be doing it again tomorrow. However, it'll be a little different. We've swapped days with the Wednesday folks, so you'll get Nicole and Tom tomorrow afternoon, or tomorrow morning, rather, with their normal segments. But you're also going to get Gidget in the morning with trivia, so that'll be fun.
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Starting point is 01:42:25 everybody. That'll do it for us. Brian, do you have a song to take us out with tonight? I do. Yes. Keep saying it tonight. This is great. This is a request from Serum who says, Hey there, Scratch and Billiards. Serum here requesting a cover of the Jurassic Park theme by Bader Nana or anything dinosaur related, in general for my amazing husband, Trike, without whom I would be lost in life. Back in January, it was our four-year anniversary. However, with his being in the military, it's meant having to be a part while he's on orders overseas. Lucky for me, he's come back for his brother's wedding, which means a solid couple weeks to spend with him before he has to fly back. He's a massive dinosaur geek. I guess he likes massive dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:43:05 And it's reignited my own nerdy passions as a result. That's the request. Thanks for all you do. And love the show, though. Sarah, she also adds, to my husband, I love you forever. You're my world, and my life is brighter with you in it. This is cool. This is the Jurassic Park theme.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Now, Bader and I had never, I'd never heard of before. He is, oh, shoot, I remember looking this up earlier, Turkish. Oh, hold on. I want to look this up because I want to get this right. Yeah, you like to get things right. I understand. Kuwait.
Starting point is 01:43:36 He's Kuwaiti. He's a musician, songwriter, and producer from Kuwait. Nice. And this Jurassic Park cover reminds me of the, was it, no, not Janhammer. Who is the Top Gun? Oh, do, do, do, do, do. Not Danger Zone guy, but the...
Starting point is 01:43:59 Not Kenny Loggins. Right. Not Berlin, but the other, yeah. I don't remember who did it. The soundtrack, the score, the person who did the score for... James Horner. No? No. Horner? Was it Horner? Anyway, that's what this kind of reminds me of. Just some really cool guitar,
Starting point is 01:44:16 kind of backed by some music. Fultramire? Was Fultramire the... What? Oh, wow. A couple of people are saying Fultemeyer was the... Harold Fultemeyer, really? Harold Fultemeyer, yeah. I haven't heard that name. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:44:30 That was a long time ago. All right. Anyway, all right. So, but this is Bader Nana and his cover, excellent cover of the Jurassic Park main theme. See you guys tomorrow. um... ...and... ...you
Starting point is 01:45:00 ...and ...and ...and ...and ... ... ... So, you know,
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