The Morning Stream - TMS 2170: Happy little sex tape
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Coming up on TMS, collateral finger damage.
Our wives are our friends, as well as the sexy stuff.
Pizza blob the hut.
White guys talk about rap.
Napster was great.
Ask your parents.
A raw, meaty hole in his head.
Mumford, but not his sons.
Scatible pants.
Nicole and Tom and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
It's hotter in a butt cheek sandwich.
I'm up to my knees and chicken shit.
I'm going to go fishing with my new fishing lure.
That's what you think, stupid man.
The morning stream, no d dicks here.
Hey, everybody, welcome back to TMS.
This is the morning stream for Wednesday, September 8th, 2021.
I'm Scott Johnson.
And I'm joined by another guest host.
Today we have Garrett Weinzerl joining us.
You know him from the instance and, of course, the angry chicken into the Nexus and various other projects.
Garrett, welcome to the show.
Hello, Scott.
Good morning.
Hello.
Still technically morning, even with the time difference between us.
Yeah, we usually only talk on Fridays, man.
Friday.
Yeah, and sometimes not even then.
When we travel, we both like leaving on Fridays.
Yeah, what's that about?
What do you think that is?
Is that because we need that extra day to settle in and actually enjoy ourselves?
and shake off our moral coil.
It's because we're actually best friends with our wives
and we want to spend like an extra day with them.
That's a good point.
That's one thing I think we have most in common, actually,
is our wives are more than just our love interests.
There are, you know, our best friends, our confidants.
What else?
You know, I don't know what I'd do without our kind of people.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Hey, it's good to have you here.
So, Garrett, of course, you know,
it makes sense that he'd be on here today.
but we couldn't do a TMS without at least acknowledging that Brian is still in Ireland.
And he'll be back this weekend, but he's still there.
He's having a great time.
And I actually got an audio thing from him from the road.
He just got done.
You'll like this because you love the Star Wars.
He just got done climbing that island thing where Luke was getting the boob milk out of the alien.
Oh, the Skellig?
The Skellig Islands?
The Skellig Islands there.
Oh, from Last Jedi?
Oh, those things are so cool looking.
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
And so he went out there, got some of the milk from one of those creatures,
just kidding, none of that happened.
And the porgs were nowhere to be seen, apparently.
But anyway, this is him just post-climbing all that stuff.
Let's hear what he has to say.
Hello, Scott and co-host and Tadpool.
Just checking in, saying, howdy to everybody.
We're having a great time out here.
Went to Octo today, the island, Luke Skywalker's Island with the Jedi Temple and all that.
That's really called Skellig Michael, and we climbed up it.
I'll post photos on Facebook.
But we're having a great time here.
We miss everybody.
Can't wait to be back and do another show with all of you listening on Monday.
Hope you're having a great day.
Talk to you later.
Bye-bye.
I like I kind of wound down there at the end, like a guy who maybe just climbed a high place and is a little tired.
And it's like five in the afternoon.
Yeah, the clear, vague.
I have no idea what freaking day it is at the end of that.
It's wonderful.
Yeah, I saw one of his videos of him, like, driving on an extremely narrow road and suddenly being faced with another tiny car coming directly at them.
Yeah, truly facing the dangers of Europe one step at a time.
And we're impressed with that.
So, yeah.
Oh, tiny, tiny roads.
Very tiny.
They've had them forever, too.
So they're not changing.
They're not going to go, like, widen those roads suddenly.
Oh, it reminded me of, like, driving around Maui on my honeymoon, doing the road to Hanna.
That road is sketchy.
Yeah, yeah.
Is it up high, too, so you're, like, way over the water and stuff?
It's, it's not too bad.
We circumnavigated Maui, like, our second day there, and the, I think it's the western side of the island.
I don't know.
One of the sides was way worse than the road to Hanna in terms of, like, being, like, a cliff road that's seemed like a mile above a rocky ocean death.
yeah you don't want to die you want to live i understand that there's some mountains up here where
the only way to get up through them is through very narrow roads and if you do those in the winter
especially you're just asking for death so uh be careful out there everybody is what we're saying
uh anyway thank you brian for sending that in hopefully i'm going to try for a live call tomorrow
on uh on tms uh where my wife kim will be back hosting tomorrow so watch for that and uh we'll
try to get him while he's out there and actually in ireland and
see if his accent's been affected or if he's truly over his jet lag yet or I don't know how
many boiled potatoes he's eaten because I assume that's all they eat there, that sort of stuff.
All these stereotypes that I have, they'll all be put to the test tomorrow when we do TMS.
All right.
I got an update for everybody who, so we got a lot of bunch of emails and a bunch of reactions
to the homeless guy flipping me off yesterday.
And this is a...
Oh, I heard this.
I only heard up to Justin yesterday.
I haven't finished the episode, but you did hear that.
Okay, good, because this will, so this will be good, this will be good catharsis for both of us probably.
But anyway, it's, for those who missed the show yesterday, if you, if you didn't hear the story, the basics of it or this, we pulled up to a place where there's always somebody standing there with a sign saying out of work or need help or whatever.
And we always have a couple of bucks in the car and always try to help.
And so even if we don't know, even if, even if they're full on scam on us, we don't care.
we don't we figure that's not our job to judge it's just our job to you know help where you can so that's
what we do and when we give a little money to somebody up there we just assume it's going to a good cause
like they're eating with it or they're you know something good's happening uh well when we did that last
or this this time up by this mall intersection that we always pass uh the guy reached out took her money
came back and as she turned away and came back toward the the window of the car or she was coming
back toward me. He flips me off. Gives me the bird. All right. Gives me a finger.
Now, lots of theories being floated about what actually happened there. Most of them are,
he's probably, there's mental illness there. You know, sometimes they, they'll make a gesture or
say a thing that they don't actually mean to say. Think of like somebody with a bad case of
ticks or Tourette's or something where they're saying, you know, stuff that they wouldn't normally
say in the context of they're saying.
it. And those all sounded fine to me. But here's the explanation I think I'm, I don't know, I might be
buying this one. William Townsend sent this in. And he says, I guarantee that homeless guy wasn't
flipping you off. There was definitely another homeless guy beyond your car that he was flipping
off. So his theory, if I'm to extrapolate, this is totally, yeah, it's a little little,
little, little, little, hey, I got a buck and you got jack, buddy. That's what he's thinking. Now,
I don't remember if somebody was around.
I didn't, you know, case the joint and kind of see who was standing around there.
But it's not a bad theory that there's some competition on the, you know, why would this,
why would this particular form of commerce or of whatever you want to call it?
Why would it be any different than any other?
There's going to be some competition on the corner.
And perhaps he was throwing the bird at somebody else.
Entirely possible.
But I swear he's looking at me.
It looked like he was going, right?
at me and uh i felt his eyes on me so so i you know it's possible but other other theories still
being floated and and we have no answer truly to this i i want i wish you had turned back around
like a skit from curb you just went over and like very calmly just as like it's he we i just want
to be clear were you flipping me off yeah i wouldn't do that that's what i should have done
car was going by and they made a rude gesture towards him and he was just getting back at him like
there's all kind you could have just been collateral finger damage that chat room you know
what to do that's a title get that one in there ban hashtag that one in there uh no like what
larry david would absolutely stop and do that i never think to do those sorts of things which
i think is what divides me from the larry davids of the world i don't over thinking it's it's
pretty pretty rude yeah i mean i would know i would know what fart gas means probably because
I would have asked the guy that yelled at that at me at one time.
What was the other one?
Crap, I came over the other one.
Anyway, when these guys yell stuff at me in parking lots and I don't understand it,
the Larry David's among us would like stop and go over there and go, I'm sorry.
Can you explain what you meant by that?
And you'd get an answer.
I don't ever do that.
I just kind of, oh, explosive tip, that's right.
Like, I just ruminate and wonder and then talk about it on the show and then never have a real answer.
And then down the road, someone will say, hey, I listen to your show 4.
years ago and I think explosive tip
was this. And it's just yet another
theory and I'll never know. Who knows where that guy
is now? I don't know. So
same thing with Bird Guy. I don't, I have
no answers. I don't know what to say. I should
have Larry David. Bird Guy, the even
lamer version of Birdman.
Hey, Birdman's great.
You got to love Birdman. Are you telling me
you don't, I mean, unironically
you can't love it. Now the rapper Birdman was very
big when I was in high school. Hold on. There's a
rapper named Birdman. There's a rapper name
bird or well, yes. Okay. This
None of this is, I didn't know this.
Okay, but I'm thinking of this.
We go one hit one.
Bird man.
The original 1960s animated Birdman.
Here's another one.
Here's another clip of him.
I'm due in Washington for an important military meeting and no sign of Avenger.
Yeah, it's his bird.
His bird is Avenger.
Anyway, the original people were supposed to take it seriously superhero Birdman is amazing.
But you can't actually believe that.
You can only believe that ironically.
That's the rule there.
Anyway. But Harvey Birdman, attorney of law, good stuff. Good parody. Well done. Nice job. You convinced a whole generation that that was Birdman. So good job, guys. And now Garrett has introduced a rapper I've never heard of. So good job. I don't know. Do you say rapper or musician? What'd you say?
I vaguely remember it as a rapper from the early odds.
Now I have to know. Hold on. Birdman rapper.
Yeah, it is. It's a guy named Birdman.
Yeah, well, is it 2002, I think?
Yeah.
The hit single?
He was born in the year I was born.
Let's see.
I'm trying to find it here.
Okay.
He started with cash money records.
And let's see.
I'm trying to find a song I would know.
I can't find any.
I guess him and Lil Wayne are feuding.
They like to feud.
Oh, oh, cool.
Lil Wayne, way more famous.
Yeah.
Like, not even close.
Yeah.
He's got a mugshot from 07 where you've gotten some troubles.
Hey, you got to have that.
If you're a rapper without a mugshot, I mean, really, what are you doing?
How do you feel about this whole Lil in front of names?
How does that land on you?
You know, it's been around for a long time.
I feel like, much like Autotune, I've been beaten into submission where I no longer really care.
Oh, that's an interesting.
It's just a thing.
It's just a thing.
It's just a style.
Yeah.
It's fine.
Okay.
It's all fine.
All right.
I kind of hate it, but you make a good point about just sort of letting it
just let it be.
You like the post Malone.
The Post Malone does that.
Oh, I love the Post Malone, but he doesn't have Lil in his name.
He doesn't put Lil.
Oh, I thought you're talking about Autotune.
My bad.
Oh, no.
Autotune, I don't care about it.
I'm with you.
Autotune has its place.
I agree.
I was very grumpy about it in the early days.
But like, I don't know.
the older I get, I'm like, I don't know, I'm going to sit here
complain about distorted guitars, because
it's kind of the same concept.
No, yeah, and if I'm going to
listen to, I don't know, daft punk
and not have a problem with voice modulation
over there, why do I have a problem over here?
Like, it's just a different application of...
Thank you. Thank you for... Listen,
I'm a grumpy old man about a lot of things, but thank you for
joining me on not being a grumpy old man on this
one subject. Garrett, we're peacemakers, is what we are.
We're making peace. One day
at a time. One wrapper at a time.
And one day I'll get over my little problem, but there's
Tons of them. There's like a, here, look at this. Rappers with Lil in their name.
Look at this. Okay, I got a whole list for you. According to IHeart Radio, here it is.
We got Lil Wayne, you know him. Lil Uzi Vert. Okay. He's in the news later, I believe.
He is. We got a story about him. Lil Baby, Lil Peep. He's a white fellow.
Lil Bow Wow was in Tokyo Drift. It's a main character. Oh, that's right. It's the best.
best of those movies, in my opinion.
I'm a fan. I like it a lot.
Lil Skies, Lil Yottie,
Lil Dickie, I don't know if I'd have that name.
I'm just saying, maybe not that name.
We had our dances in high school at the Lil Yachty Club.
Oh, you did.
And how'd that go?
It was a very bad joke for a yacht club, Scott.
It was a very bad joke. Nicely done.
Lil Durk, Lil Pump, and everyone of course knows
Lil Nas X
Of course
Lil Kim
Just saying this kills me
Lil Bibby
Oh man we should tell Ibit
There's a Lil Bibby
He goes by Bibby sometimes
So there's that
And finally
Lil Twist
Is your other guy
Anyway
I don't know why that was fun
But it was
I feel like I've done that before
But I enjoy looking at those names
All right
Let's get to the point here
That is I want to dig deeper into
As part of Garrett's psyche
That I've never really
I don't know
We don't really talk about
on the instance. There's no real reason to there.
There's no reason for me to talk about this anywhere,
which is why I think it comes out in anecdotes constantly.
Well, I think this is a good place for it because TMS is all over the place.
So it has its, you know, this is a good, this is a safe place for this discussion to happen.
Garrett is obsessed with cars and not just cars, but like, what am I trying to say here?
If I was in...
Enthusious vehicles.
You're an enthusiast, yes.
Very specifically cars.
SUVs can die in a fire.
Teslas, you know, I respect raw speed, but they
bore me to tears. All you do is put your right foot down.
It'd be like having a video game that plays itself.
How do you feel about your average
four-door sedan? How do you feel about that?
I think some of them are really rad. Some
sedans can be super, super cool.
You know, it's a thing that Germany does very, very well.
They make super exciting sedans.
Yeah. You prefer any brand,
or like BMW over Chrysler or not Chrysler?
I'll say the only car poster I ever had on my wall.
It's actually kind of a lame car, but the BMW Z3.
Because when I was growing up, Pierce Brosnan was my James Bond.
And the first car he has in Golden Eye is a BMW Z3.
I gotcha.
Do you still feel that way about him?
You're like, you're still my James Bond.
Everyone else can go pound sand?
How do you feel about that?
Listen, you know, there's, I love Golden Island.
actually the bond I watched the most recently it was golden night but I absolutely go reaching for
for Daniel Craig immediately those movies they're just so good they're great they're so good they're
they're they're absolutely updated for modern sensibilities the Pierce brazen movies were like
the last breath of oh it was the they didn't course correct even though Austin powers had
ruined old school James Bond sensibilities if you ever wanted to see uh if your desire to see
Sean Bean killed by
by a satellite though
you gotta go to
not satellite
a giant what's that what the hell was that
a giant dish it was a satellite
was it a satellite was it a satellite
was it essentially it was like a basin satellite
oh that's right okay
but if you and you all know Sean Bean
dies a lot and everything he's in but man
yeah if you want to see Sean Bean die just watch anything
with Sean Bean if you want to see him specifically get
murdered by a giant satellite
installation then Golden Eye is your
is your movie right in his face
like right in the center of his
dumb face. Anyway, the point is, um, uh, what is my point? My point is, uh, I got sidetracked here
with the Pierce Brosnan. Oh, so back to the cars here. Uh, you're a huge fan of like, I don't know,
uh, Supras and, uh, that kind of car. I don't even know what to call those. Like a, uh, what is
known to the enthusiast as the Mark 4 Supra, which is like from like 93 to like 98. Uh, that's my
dream car. Why did that end? I'll probably die having never owned one. They have gone up
so much. What happened in 98 where they were like, now we're done with this cool thing.
We're going to move on to something worse. What happened there? I honestly don't remember.
I want to say it kept going for a year or two in Japan after they pulled it here in the States,
but that was just, that was the end of it here. Yeah. What made it special? Why? Why? What was
the big deal? Well, it has one of the most famous engines, like, in the history of tuner cars.
Yeah. Which would be, so like, if you're curious, like, why the hell I even care about cars? I was
a perfect age for the Fast and Furious.
Like absolute perfect age.
I was 14 years old when the first Fast and the Furious came out.
I was just hitting high school.
I was just starting to like, oh shoot, I'm going to be able to drive soon.
Yeah.
Woo!
And then following that like Need for Speed Underground 2 came out, which is still this day of like one of my all time favorite racing games.
And I, you know, pre World of Warcraft, I spent like wow hours in that game just customizing my cars.
I was like obsessed with Pimp my ride and Fast and the Furious and Need for Speed, all that stuff.
stuff. And then back in like 2015, kind of started scratching the surface of it again,
kind of forgotten, like kind of remembered I liked cars. And so it's Katie, my wife. And so we
started watching Top Gear, like British Top Gear, and kind of looking into it because I was
leasing a Prius at the time. Yeah. Doing your part. You're being a good citizen, man. Just
taking care of the environment, one man at a time. That's fine. Yeah, but I had started working from home.
2015 is when I started working from home.
I wasn't full-time working for myself,
but the job I was working at the time,
they were like,
well, you can save a bunch of money
if we just start working from home.
So we started working from home,
and I'm like, I don't need to save the gas anymore.
My lease is coming up.
What should I get?
And I found out you can get fun cars
and not spend Porsche prices.
Interesting.
There's plenty of fun cars
that are like under $30,000.
And we ended up getting a Scion FRS,
which is exactly the same as a Subaru BRZ,
if you're familiar with that car.
I liked those Sion cars.
Am I alone in this?
You know what I like?
I like a small car.
I'm weird this way.
I'm six foot three, almost four, and give me a tiny car.
That's what I like.
I like to cram in there and barely fit.
And I don't care what brand.
This is the thing.
I never had a car like this.
I was previously like I was like a Mustang fan.
I've always been a forward fan boy growing up.
But this car really ushered in like a new age of me being completely obsessed with motor vehicles.
Nice.
Because it's like sitting in a cockpit.
Like, the seating position is, is very Porsche-like.
Yeah.
You know, I've driven a 9-11 Porsche before, and it's near identical in terms of, like, feeling
like your butts drag on the road.
And so, Kayne and I both really got into it.
Kay's been in the cars, too, you know, she was same, same age.
You know, we grew up together, you know, enjoying Path of Furious and stuff growing up.
So, right.
Anyways, yeah, if we start going to meets and learn a lot about cars and eventually I decided to sell
her old car, she took the FRS.
I went and bought a manual
Mustang GT and taught myself
how to drive manual like 26.
Wow.
I was raised on a stick,
so I feel like that would have,
that feels sounds strange to me because I hated
automatics and was all about sticks for a long time,
but I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then Katie learned how to drive on that too,
and we sold the automatic FRS and replaced it with the same year,
but manual FRS.
And so yeah,
and last year we did our,
Or this year, we did our first track day.
We went out to Sebering International Speedway.
And it's really just been this kind of crescendo of interest for Katie and I.
So it's like this big shared hobby between us.
And we just, we really just dig them.
Again, like once I found out I didn't have to spend like $60,000, $80,000 to have a really fun car.
Do you ever go to one of those midnight freaking, you know, ludicrises walking around checking people's engines before you start, $2,000 buy-in, whatever, you know, like where the cops at?
actual illegal street racing?
No.
No.
It's actually,
it's been a problem.
It was a huge problem in 2020 with COVID.
It was called like takeovers where enough of them would show up
and just like shut down intersections to do donuts and stuff.
And it was becoming a big problem and places like probably close as us to like Atlanta
was really having issues with it.
Yeah.
And it was just kind of ruining it for everybody.
Yeah.
There's a couple of guys up our street who at three o'clock in the morning,
even this morning,
uh,
they both got two of these cars that look like that,
it looks like one of the cars that were chasing the semi in the first
Pixar cars movie.
Oh, yeah.
We just,
we just put underglow on Katie's ever.
You did.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's a completely extra set in the garage that I haven't put on my car yet
because now I know how much work it is, uh,
to do it took me like four days.
Her car just lived on jack stands.
Do you ever go nuts with like the sound system?
So it blows your hair around and all that?
Those kind of people with the crazy base.
I haven't, but that is very, very much on my, like, my wish list.
I really, so my first car was a 1996 Honda Accord.
Yeah.
Fine car.
Fine car.
Yeah.
They came in a wagon spec.
And it is a top three car for me.
I want to find a manual 96 Honda Accord wagon.
They are so hard to find now because half of them have been exported to other countries to be taxis or they have just died.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want that to be a stereo car.
If I ever find one of those, I'm going to fill the wagon back with speakers and woofers,
and I'm going to put air suspension on it and just drop it to the ground.
All right.
So you are, I mean, clearly unapologetically, this is a, not a subculture,
but a thing that you're way, way into.
My question is this.
Is it, my impression when I hear somebody talk about it as passionately as you are,
is that this is probably costing a billion dollars a minute to do anything with it.
But you're saying you don't have to be, you know, Joe money to make this work.
No, not at all.
It depends on what you're into.
Like, if you want, like, the fastest car in the world, yeah, it's going to cause big money.
But if you just want, like, a fun enthusiast vehicle, there's so many options out there
because, you know what's a really, really, really fun car is a Miata.
You know what cost $3,000?
A Miata.
Really?
you could yeah you want to go get like a gen one pop-up headlight manual miata you can find them running for three grand really that's crazy yeah why is that so cheap that seems crazy to me those are because they've been around since 1990 I guess so and they make barely a hundred horsepower what about the real wheel drive so you can have fun with them what about those Mazda uh Mazda had that rotary engine that was so cool RX-7s or oh yeah I mean if you want a money pit that's a great way to go I love the RX7
I absolutely love the RX7, especially the second gen, the FD designation RX7, which is like what Han drove in Tokyo Drift.
He had a wildbody kit on it, so it doesn't even look like the original car.
But I think those next to the Mark 4 Toyota Super, that's probably like my all-time favorite 90s car.
Well, the most...
But rotary engines are notorious, notorious for constantly needing maintenance and breaking down.
The funnest two cars I ever drove
Are two cars I would love to have today
But you can now tell me if these are money pits or not
So I'll tell you the first one
The first one was a then Dotson
Of course later Nissan
280 ZX
Was the sweetest freaking ride I ever sat in
I love that car
This is my dad's a bit
I loved it loved it loved it
Okay so that's number one
Number two
Toyota made MR2s back in the day
Do you remember these?
Oh yeah yeah the rear engine
sports cars yeah
They had a problem with like struts would break really easy
if you hit a speed bump too fast or something but how like today how do how do car heads like you
view the MR2 favorably do you look back and go oh yeah those were the days or are we are we
happy i think they're really rad um i mean everyone kind of has their their their personal tastes right
like i mostly skew imports but i still love fords i mean i drive a focus rs now which is like
the top spec ford focus they've made um and aren't they're done now right no more focuses
In the States, Europe got a whole new generation of focus the year after they stopped selling it here in the States.
Ford only sells, trucks, SUVs, and Mustangs.
Now, the Mustang is the only car Ford sells in the States.
And that new Mustang is ugly, by the way.
Yeah, we could spend an hour on the intent of using the Mustang brand on an electric SUV.
Once I got over it pretty quick, I'm like, whatever.
It's not really a Mustang, if they want to call it that, whatever.
I think it looks cool.
Actually, I think Tesla's are kind of ugly.
I like the way the mock E looks.
I do, too.
I just don't know why they...
My biggest complaint is I really want the new Mustang Mach 1, which is a real Mustang.
And so every time I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of thinking about selling my RS and getting a Mach 1, everyone's like, oh, no, don't do it.
It's not a real Mustang.
I'm like, no, no, no, not the Machi.
Not the Mach 1.
Yeah, nobody wants the marquee.
They're from Star Trek.
They're the rebels that will go to Deep Space 9 and attack.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, they're fine.
It's just, it's not, as far as I'm concerned, it's not really a Mustang.
But, like, I think it's a really well-made electric vehicle.
I think that's my problem.
It's just called it a Mustang, and I just feel like that's hallowed ground,
and I don't know why you do that to yourself.
I mean, it's absolutely brand recognition.
Yeah, I guess so.
Like, and I mean, like, I'm sure some people are kind of annoyed
that they're bringing about the lightning,
on a curve for an all-electric F-150, but I think that thing looks dope.
Yeah, that thing looks all right.
If I was going to get a truck, I would be eyeballing that.
I'm all for going headlong into the electrics and making a mess, making a noise there.
I think that's great.
Also, the cool thing, I will say this.
I would say are definitely in the attainable field.
And I will say this, the Mach-E, it's got these rear lights that when you do your turning signal, I don't know why I like things like this.
but if you turn left it does a sequence it's three lights and it goes
like in a row oh uh so uh traditional mustangs have been doing this since 2013
because mustangs uh have always had that three vertical bar tail lights since the original
Mustang that came out back in what 65 yeah um and in 2013 they got these really really cool
redesigned rear lights in this like mid cycle refresh um matter of fact i think last i checked i don't know if he still
hasn't or not, but Darrell Skills.
Oh. Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, we spent one nerdtacular breakfast just raving, ranting about Mustangs to each other.
I know when he bought that car, and it was this year.
1930, 1930, 1930, 1930.
Just kidding.
Well, anyways, there you have it.
Good stuff.
I love talking about cars because my dad loved cars, and you and my dad would be best friends, man.
I'm telling you. He could sit and talk all day to people like you.
It's fun stuff, man. I've always liked him, but it really has become a hobby kind of in my adult ears.
So that thing where you went to the raceway thing, would you call that? You had a name for it.
Oh, it's a world famous track. It's called Sebring, which is in Sebring, Florida, but it's Seabring International Speedway.
That's right. And you get to race around that thing, like not race, but speed around.
There are things called track days that are held all over the United States.
here at various tracks your costs will vary depending of what like racing club you book it through
so we had to join a club and then pay an entry fee and then i also paid extra for track day insurance
because if you run into a wall and call geico they're just going to laugh at you yeah i mean that
makes sense so did you did you have to wipe all the adrenaline off the seat when you were done or
have that all go oh dude it was the first few so we did i want to say
five, four 30 minute sessions and then there was just an open hour at the end of the day to just
drive as much as you wanted. Wow. So it was a lot of seat time. Um, pretty cool. And my first two
sessions out, it was the most terrifying thing I think I've ever done. Really? Because I was racing my
own personal car. And like, I was like, it, it, to me, it was the breaking. The breaking was
scary than anything else because, uh, to do it right, you're doing it right at the edge of the
limits of your brakes. And it just feels wrong. It goes against like everything I've
ever learned about braking.
But it's like the later you can break because you find the limits of what your
brakes can achieve, the faster you're going to improve your lap times.
And that was the part I was really struggling with.
But by my third session out, I was very used to the feel of all of it.
And it was still, I think it's the most fun I've ever had doing anything.
Doing anything ever in your life.
It was so much fun.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
She took her car.
I took my car.
We were out on the track together.
were multiple times we were kind of chasing each other around, I have never had more fun.
See, it's best. Best friends still. See, this whole wife thing is the best.
If you've got to find somebody you can go racing with. That's my advice for today.
Yeah. You said something earlier about laughing at you and I have to play this.
They're all going to laugh at you. All right. I just had to play it.
Get that out of my system. That's how the soundboard works. All right. Hey, we're going to dive into some news because we got stuff to cover today. Let's do it.
Today's news brought to you by the many shows over at amove.tv.
Garrett, tell me more about any of them or all of them and why people should listen to them.
Well, you know, I have some shows I would say are considered by some to be institutions now.
The Angry Chicken about Harstone and Into the Nexus about Heroes of the Storm have been going for near a decade at this point.
Yeah, long-ass time, man.
Yeah, we've been going a long, long time.
I think they're pretty damn well-polished shows that know.
know what they're doing and we've put out an episode every damn week but um literally this morning
i got a uh you've been approved by apple podcast notification in my inbox scott so i've got a brand
new podcast just hit and feeds with one you know i'm from there will be dungeons with one kyle
ferguson kyle ferguson we love kyle so we already like garrett and we like kyle what do you
guys do on that show? We were for the last like four weeks we've been experimenting with a
gaming news show where we talk about like one big headline and kind of dive into it.
And it also has given us a chance to kind of experiment with YouTube because if you go
watching on YouTube, there's a lot more visuals than we're used to. But still coming out
in podcast form. So now we have broken it out of the into the Nexus feed. It is now its own show.
It is called Nexus Gaming News. Nice. And it is now available.
everywhere you get your podcasts.
So we just did an episode
on those new restrictions in China
saying that people under the age of 18
can only play one hour of online games
a night and only on weekends.
Yeah. Well, that's hell. Hell's bells.
Look, you guys, more great game information
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And this is one of them. Listen to this.
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That's Kyle doing a voice on there.
He'll be Dungeons. I don't think he'll be talking like that,
but, you know,
You want more Kyle.
You might be surprised.
Kyle is a man of many voices.
Yeah, very good.
Well, awesome.
Go check that out, you guys.
It's available now.
All right, let's get to the news.
The news that matters really here on the TMS show.
North Shore pizza dough blob grew so big and so enormous in proportions
that overtook the dumpster it was sitting in.
All due to the Ida hurricane thing.
All you've heard about is death and destruction from these hurricanes.
We thought we'd talk about this giant pizza blob and stuff.
stead. You can get all that news and lots of depressing 24-hour news networks, but not here.
We're going to talk about pizza. Pisa dough. A massive pizza dough discarded by a Domino's Pizza
employee tasked with prepping the Covington Pizzeria for Hurricane Ida has grown to be enormous
over the past week. What started out as a blob fully contained by the dumpster has now risen
and overtop its metal confines, thanks to temperatures that hovered in the 90s.
They, let's see, they was described, has documented the blob's growth. Oh, somebody, this person
resident Nicole Amstutz has documented the growth since Wednesday via social media.
Domino's Pizza General Manager did not immediately respond to interview requests, which is too bad.
Her Facebook post has garnered 1,600 shares as of Saturday afternoons.
Not really that many.
Quote, I'm really just happy it's making so many people laugh at such a special time, she says.
I would like to share photos of the pizza now with the chat room.
And people watching the video, if you're listening to audio, I apologize.
Where is it? Okay, there it is. Look at that, man. Just huge. I mean, think of it. Doe is doing what? It's getting all yeasty and it's kind of alive, right? Is that the whole idea with bread?
Yes, it is a living organism.
Look at that big stinky freaking nightmare. Oh, my gosh, I would die. Oh, look at it. And there's, look, there's like a bug in there and there's like a snail just sitting outside of it. Oh, yeah, baby.
This is, this is, I don't know, this looks like something straight out of like fallout.
like i'm ready i'm ready for this to come alive and and uh uh eat the master sword yeah it's
kind of makes you also realize that i don't know we should probably eat less pizza you know i don't
know why i feel that way looking at this is that weird no no i disagree i do not my name is
garret i do not endorse this message eat pizza be happy pizza is pretty great unless of course you know
you have like a gluten allergy or something that would be problematic yeah i don't i've never
been allergic to gluten and i really feel for those who are because there's so much
much stuff where you realize, oh, that's, anything with bread. You're just screwed, right? You're
just hosed. I can't live without bread. I'm supposed to be cutting down on bread myself, just in general,
but, but no bread? I mean, I can't do it. I can't do it. It's like my favorite thing.
Yeah, because it's bread. I love it so much. It's bread. It's the closest thing in the, in the food
world, it's like air. You know, you got bread and everything. Bread, bread is part of every,
if you've got a sandwich, it's not a sandwich. It's not a sandwich. It's not a
sandwich without bread uh pizza what is pizza without dough uh as as a fan of pan pizza by the way if
this if this pizza dough was not sitting in front of a dumpster my first thought would be that would
make some damn good pizza because it has been left to rise for a long long time that's fluffy and
awesome it's the dumpster and the outdoors part that probably yeah put you off a little bit
bummerrific as as kyle would say yeah he would say that that's such a kyle thing to say that's
hilarious uh all right moving on uh cats you have a cat
can't remember you got dogs i do he's uh warming my feet right now oh it's very nice very down here
well cats are great we have one too deckard the cat uh carter says that right now deckard is
named after deckard from um from uh blade runner and not from deckard cane but but we'll see
stay a while and and take this replica test that's right that's exactly right anyway
deckard's a weirdo but uh this is interesting cats are fall and i and i wonder about him sometimes at
this because he is kind of a psycho.
Cats are falling ill with life-threatening stress
as owners spend much more time at home due to the pandemic.
Oh, who's going to think of the cats?
You were ever curious just how much your cat does not care about you?
No, he doesn't give a shit.
Here we go.
Yeah, my cat does not care about us at all.
The coronavirus pandemic over the last year and a half has disrupted virtually every
facet of 21st century life from forcing people to work home and all that to industry.
He's grinding to a halt. The coronavirus has enacted a especially heavy toll on the nation.
Animal experts have now warned pet cats all across the country or warned that.
They have also felt the impact of the pandemic with COVID forcing them into a new and rather alien lifestyle for cats.
Cats are used to being around nobody all day because everyone leaves and they just sort of have the house to themselves and they just do their own thing.
According to the animal charity cats protection, it's just condoms.
having to adjust their owners working from home has been particularly stressful ordeal.
Unlike man's best friend, cats tend to be more solitary creatures, especially when on the hunt.
This, of course, is not always the case with every cat.
According to the Blue Cross for pets, domesticated cats can still form an intimate bond with their owners.
On rare occasions, can develop separation anxiety when left alone for long periods of time.
So basically, we have just effed with the cats.
And now they're all either like having stress or depression or some combination of both or around them,
much we're not around enough anymore because some people are going back to work and they freak out
has your cat exhibited any of these behaviors garratt i deck so dexter is a i i would say a more
affectionate than average cat um he'll greet us at the door when we come home if we're out shopping
or whatever yeah and uh he'll sleep at the foot of the bed for um just long enough to be
inconvenient yeah as soon as i'm about ready to fall asleep he wants to leave and i sleep at the door
shut because I need my
room to be like a dark cave to sleep
but yeah no I
I would say Dexter is probably the most damn
affectionate cat I have ever had
and I've had a few cats in my time
all right of all the cats I've ever had
and we probably had maybe 10
in my lifetime
I think we had a cat named Link
who was probably
this most affectionate you wanted to cuddle with you
constantly and be held and
just be around you and all that
all the rest of them though they did not
give a shit about me or any of the humans.
They were just like, give me food, let me roam free, and that's all they cared about or
wanted to do.
Half of them escaped, because they were like, I'm going out into the wider world.
One of them went out, and I think sired like a billion other cats.
Oh, no.
Yeah, like this cat's name was Henry, and yes, he was named after Henry.
Oh, great.
So there's just a bunch of a spawn of Henry running around.
There are.
There really, literally are people who we still communicate with.
our old neighborhood who were like... Wait, so hold on, Scott. Are you telling me that Henry did not obey?
Henry did not. Well, he obeyed his libido. That's what you're asking. Yes. It's my favorite Nirvana song.
Obey your libido? Yeah, that was a good one. Oh, you have to have a take. Look, you grew up in the, you know, this would have been your era a little bit. This kid, this kid who was, um, uh, and when he was a baby, he was naked on the Nevermind album. Oh, the guy suing the Nirvana. Yeah. After, like, a decade of like benefiting from it and like making a big deal.
and reshooting it and acting like it's the greatest thing in the world now suddenly
he's saying his life was ruined by it and what's your take on that you think you should
yeah buddy you have you have you have too many years of public uh endorsement of of reliving that
experience for that story to seem like your complaints hold any water yeah that's what i think
i think that thing is money grab and that's it and uh i think that's unfortunate i've there
there are pictures of me as a as a dopey looking naked kid in a tub
floating around that if those were
following me around publicly, I just
wouldn't care.
You're not even a year old.
You're a freaking baby. So that already
to me is a little bit fishy.
Secondly, the parents
signed it over, which is totally part of the deal.
And thirdly, he
reshot the whole thing and wanted to be
naked for it and the photographers wouldn't let him.
I think that guy's
I think he's full of crap.
Yeah, listen, Dave Grohl is a national
treasured. You'll leave Dave Girl
alone. Yeah, leave Dave alone.
He's got that cool 10-year-old
girl in the concert playing drums.
You've seen her. She's amazing.
I'm waiting for Dave Girl
to jump to Shark, and I'm just starting to think that
it is impossible for the man to
have a miss. No, he's great.
I don't care about the Bee Gees.
Those covers are insane. They're really good.
They're very well done. That's right. Leave him
and the other guy, Pocaselik,
or whatever's name is. Papa,
hoo-ha. What's his name?
Kevin.
Sorry, I don't actually know.
Irvon his basis name.
Kevin Mokachino.
Whatever it is.
Chris Novicellick.
Novoselik.
Leave those,
leave him alone.
He's just retiring and chilling and do whatever he's doing.
Chris.
Chris. Christ.
Christ.
Is it Chris?
Well, it's a K-R-I-S-T.
That sounds like Christ to me, but whatever.
I just remember that concert at MTV where he threw the base up in the air and it came
back down and hit him right in the face.
That's all I think about when I think of Nova-Selik.
That's nice.
When I think of him, I think of all the wrong names I give him and not the real one.
That's what I think of.
Anyway, little, yeah, Lil Christ, he's, that's his new name and he's, uh, rapping.
Yeah, we're going to call him Lil Chris.
He's going to start his rap career.
He can come down and, uh, remodel homes in Florida with vanilla ice.
Yep.
Just like, uh, just like it was meant to be.
Uh, so anyway, there's your, there's your story there.
Uh, cats, beware.
You're having a hard time.
All right.
Back now.
Okay.
finally speaking of lil names lil oozy vert in the news we just talked about him my favorite trick in
tony hawk pro skater it's a good one right oh man you meet i've been in the mood again to go back to that
one and two remake i've been kind of i just got a new tv and it was the first thing i booted up oh look at you
it looks so good that game's great what a great remake uh or not remake remaster um i guess it kind
of is a remake it pills pretty redone like you know ground up kind of stuff yeah i it's
I think it straddles the line, right?
Because, like, it does change the first game if you want
because it brings in controls from two that didn't exist in one,
like manuals and stuff like that.
Sure.
But mostly it's true.
It just improves it.
Yeah, it's just improves the game.
It's very good.
All right.
Lil Uzi-Vert.
This is a direct quote.
Fans ripped out my $24 million forehead diamond, unquote.
Ouch.
So he's famous for having a diamond, $24 million diamond in his head.
You know what we call that?
The robot from the MCU.
Yes, I was going to say we call that getting visioned.
Getting visioned.
Picking up on one of them laying down, Scott.
We're in sync today.
I like it.
Claire says dickhead.
Yeah, he's famous for having a lot of money jammed into his head,
and he looks a lot like vision.
Anyway, he says that his large pink diamond that he had there,
implanted in his forehead, got dislodged when he jumped into a crowd,
crowd at Rolling Loud.
Is that a concert thing?
Must have been or a place.
It is not what I'm familiar with, but yeah, it would appear to be a Miami hip hop festival.
I could have gone to this.
You could have. Why didn't you?
Should have.
I wasn't aware of it.
You're not into Lil Uzi-Vert?
Yeah, I do enjoy some rap, but I can't say I was familiar with Lil UziVert before this.
Garrett and I are on the same page on the 2019 album of the year was Post Malone's Hollywood is bleeding.
It's a fantastic.
100% an artist that I became very aware of through irony, like making fun of him and thinking his name is ridiculous and then started actually listening to it.
And I kind of love Post Malone.
He's great.
This is where I ended up.
Yeah.
I love that dude.
Now he's like he's a local hero because he lives out here most of his time in a place up in Park City and then he's got another one in holiday.
Yeah, 750 Lambo in the Utah snow.
Yeah, he talks about Utah on his stupid songs and trunk in the front.
Fitch at Dumbow, if I remember correctly.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
So he's kind of got, you know, that going on.
We're always trying to spot him at a Walmart because it goes in there to get his magic cards.
And I don't know, he's kind of a nerd.
And my wife wants to feed him.
It's a whole thing.
But anyway, what was my point with that?
Nothing.
We just like Post Malone.
And that album's great.
And it's still great.
And if you never heard it or just dismissed it because you're like, ah, whatever, the kids these days,
that's a great album.
And speaking of Nirvana, if you haven't seen his Nirvana cover set that he did during,
during the beginning stages of lockdown.
Oh, it's so good.
It's so good.
Yeah.
And he's got the, uh, he's wearing a dress the whole time.
Waring a dress the whole time and, and just called up his buddy Travis Barker to come play drums for it.
It was, it was a Katie and I watched a whole damn thing.
It was great.
It was really good.
That was from the basement of his, uh, I think the Park City House, which is a sprawling, massive place.
He's got a guy who's in charge of security and has like 12 security guys.
It's nuts.
It's nuts.
freaking post Malone he's like 26 what are you doing all right moving on uh oh yeah okay back to the rapper with the thing in his head
rapper said uh he had a 24 million dollar rock embedded into his uh flashy facial implant uh claimed it saved uh sorry
he claimed he saved up for years for the pink gemstone and wanted it to put it in his forehead because he was afraid he would otherwise lose it uh according to little oozy the implant wasn't foolproof because when he did this a fan reached out and grabbed it and ripped it right off his forehead
Now, the good news is he didn't suffer any serious facial damage.
That's already been done by putting a diamond in your head.
Okay.
So whatever damage that did was the damage you're going to have.
It has a barbell piercing in its place right now.
He also still has the diamond.
They didn't get away with it.
It just got yanked out.
He got it back.
They don't go into details as to how he got it back if they just handed it over.
I'm looking up this rolling loud festival.
This is back in July.
Why is this just now breaking?
Oh, yeah, this is news.
as of like yeah also i i missed out because post malone headlined the final day yeah no kidding right
oh there he is yeah maybe he's just finally telling the story but there he is with his okay because
yeah that's the deal he shows up to a thing he doesn't have the diamond he's got like i said a bar
in there right now appears and people were like what happened and then he told the story there he
is on the night of oh look at that just yanked right just like what you think it looked like just
a raw, meaty hole in his head
from getting that pulled out of
there, man. Yeah, it
that looks painful and
gross. And the fact that there's, it's a
pink diamond and there's blood around it.
Like, it's just, uh, everything about that just looks
like, it looks like a D&D monster. Yeah, I don't
like it. It does.
The poor prince was
cursed. And now
the gold, the diamond-encrusted
beholder.
He said the diamond's still there.
I don't see it in that picture.
It's that pink thing, dead in the middle.
If you put it, tried to put it back, I thought maybe that was just a flesh hole.
That I guess you're right.
And maybe it only partially came out.
Dude, why did you do it yourself?
That's just, ah, that's just, ah, I could put like two pencils through my earholes and this brings me out.
He's also got face tattoos that look like they would have hurt like hell putting them on.
Look at those.
Oh.
Yeah, you mean, it is what it is.
Hey, where's, you got a tattoo somewhere, right?
I do not. No, I like tattoos, but speaking to my previous hobby of cars, every time I think about getting one, I think about all the car parts I can buy.
Oh, that's a good point. Because, you know, a $3, 400, $500, $600 tattoo is worth some parts.
Yeah, you get some stuff. Katie's car really needs coilovers.
For me, it's a permanence thing and I don't know what I want permanently on me. And I can't decide.
And people are like, well, you'll draw your own, right?
and I'm like, I don't know.
Maybe.
I don't know if I want to.
What if I draw something I hate?
In high school, like, growing up, like, listening to, like, AFI and stuff and, like,
really being into, like, the kind of, like, horror punk, spooky stuff like that.
I really wanted, like, Nightmare Before Christmas tattoos.
I'm 34 now.
I still kind of want Nightmare before Christmas tattoos.
You know, some of that stuff will stick around.
You're right.
Like, but what if it was something else like, I don't know, let's say you're a kid who's really
into Barney. Would you really still want a
Barney tattoo? Listen,
if you're still in the Barney when you're like
getting to the age where you can make decisions about
inking yourself, you know, go for it.
Well, my kids are trying to just convince me
that I should just get one. And Kim
already got her little arm
thing. And I don't know,
dude, I just, it's too permanent. I give me that
technology where I can like, you know,
digitally print it and it's
permanent until you decide you want to change it.
I think you should 110%
get can tattooed
on yourself somewhere.
Should I really?
If you start with something just absolutely absurd,
but that means something to you.
I think you're just going to have fun.
You'll become less precious about it,
and ideas will just start rolling as to what you want to get.
You know what?
That's not bad.
I'm just looking here, too.
I've got this one version of him.
You should bring it to,
like,
you should do your research,
find like a really good,
like traditional black and white tattoo artist
and bring can and be like,
I want your rendition of this.
So it looks all traditional and awesome,
but it's still just can.
Yeah, because I still have to have somebody to have to take it and render it and, you know, make it look right.
There's a little oozy in the background still.
But like this 3D can chat room, what do you think of that?
That'd be all right.
All right?
It'd be okay.
I don't know.
It's good stuff.
I, for one, look forward to Scott eventually looking like an old grizzled sailor just covered in ink.
Great.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't imagine it.
We'll see if that day ever comes.
In the meantime, we're going to take a break.
When we come back, Tom Merritt will be here.
You're familiar with him.
You know, you know, Tom Merritt.
Yeah, you might even do a show with them occasionally about Star Wars.
Occasionally. It's my most regular podcast.
I mean, the show you do all the time with Tom Merritt about Star Wars.
Well, he's coming on next to talk about some technology stuff.
After that, we got Nicole with Recommendals.
So stick around.
Lots coming up.
In the meantime, we're going to play a quick song.
Now, this is, like I said, one that you recommended to me to play today.
And I don't know, maybe I'll let you intro it.
Tell me about this thing.
What is this song?
So we're about to play.
I did some quick research, by the way, too.
Brian's website goes back to 2017, as far as I could find, to see what's been played on TMS.
And I did a Control F, and I didn't find this played anywhere.
This is Goldfingers cover of 99 Red Balloons.
I first heard this song, downloading it off of Napster.
Oh, nice.
If that gives you an idea of when I first started the song.
And it is probably still at this day, my absolute favorite cover ever.
Wow.
Like, I love this so much.
It has absolutely ruined the original for me.
You know, the Nina 99-Rub balloons.
Oh, yeah, I can't even.
I'm with you on that.
This is better than that.
Yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah, I love, love, love this song.
Plus, it just fits your music taste.
And it turns out you and I share a lot of that.
So as soon as I heard it, I went like, oh, yeah, this is perfect.
So that'll be our song today.
We're going to play it now.
And when we come back, all that other stuff.
So stick around.
We'll be right back.
You and I in a little toy shop buy a bag of balloons with the money we got, set them free at the break of dawn, till one by one basebugs in the software, flashed the message, something's out there floating in the summer sky.
99 red balloons go
99 red balloons
Falling the summer sky
Counting bells is red on wood
There's something here from somewhere else
A wall machine it springs to life
Opens up one eager high
Focus in hell on the sky
There's 99
That mothers go by
99 decision streak 99 ministers made to worry worry super scurry call out the troops now in a hurry
this is what we're waiting for this is it boys this is war the president and his on the line
is 99 rebels go by
Ninety-Nineznius
Kriksministers,
Streyshop and benzene canister,
here dance I dance I'm sure,
for slough
people
Better
Tetson
Fetter
Wighter
Fentry
good
made
made
Man were
hathed off
that you
done
That it's
a mile
so wide
comes
Because
in a
night
Aude
Rhone
Aude
Rone
Eighty
Slup
was load
99 dreams I've had
Everyone a red balloon
It's all over
And I'm standing pretty
In the dust that was a city
If I could find a souvenir
Just to prove
The world was here, and here it is a red balloon.
I think of you and let it go.
See, now that is healthy for a boy his age.
I mean that as a doctor and not as just a mother.
Ah, it is so good to see him having fun for a change
with an attractive young woman
who obviously looks at him with a woman.
extraordinary affection.
I've had a traumatic experience.
F*** off, Hairball.
This is the morning stream.
And we're back, everybody.
Thank you for hanging in there and having fun with us today.
We appreciate it.
incoming. It's nice about Tom Merritt. When he add him to a call, he's the first guy in the
list because he goes by Ace Detect. And that makes things simple. So as a podcaster, I just want
people out there to know how much I appreciate somebody being in the A column alphabetically,
because I can just pull them in, and it's like no problem at all. Here's this.
With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man.
Hey, look who it is. It's Tom Merritt joining us from his side camera.
A little side eye for you today.
Yeah, I'm not sure why Discord decided to pick that camera.
Sometimes it just has a little mind of its own, and then Tom switches.
There he is.
There he is.
Oh, he's even wearing a Star Wars shirt.
You did that on purpose, didn't you?
No.
Oh, Trek, sorry.
Read it.
Read it.
What does it say?
Well, you got owned by typography.
Yeah, they got me that typography own.
Oh, my lord.
Well done.
that's awesome actually
I want a shirt like that
this is one of my favorite shirts
of all time I wore this
to the premiere of the Force Awakens
oh very nice did you
did anybody you know square off with you
and get mad or anything or you were good
no no no everybody was too
excited and happy for that
and by the way when I say premiere
I mean the first premiere to me
I didn't go to like the red carpet or anything like that
no not like these days for anybody listening
I'm wearing a Star Trek shirt
that uses as Garrett
pointed out the typography of Star Wars.
Ah, gotcha. Thank you for that.
We got to remember these audio folks and give them the mind's eye a little bit.
So I appreciate that.
Yeah, audio note inserted here.
There you go.
Hey, quick thing, your wife hasn't gotten like an early screener for Dune yet, right?
Tell me that it hasn't happened yet.
No, no.
Not all the studios put her on the list.
If she was actually conducting the interviews, she'd probably get it.
but but she has not as just a producer director of the department got it sadly because i'm out of my
i've seen the entire the morning show though i'm out of my oh the whole new season that's cool yeah i'm out of
my mind excited about dune um and you know in our circles that's probably not a big shock but uh no no
it looks amazing yeah it looks incredible eight minutes standing ovation at the venice film festival what's
that about holy crap eight minutes what even did why not 10 why not 10 wow that's a good point trying to
a Guinness World Record or something, that sounds a little specific and suspect.
Yeah, I thought that's up too.
Why not 10?
I love it.
The thing is longer than...
It was very internet of me to be like, oh, eight minutes.
Why not 10?
Yeah, why not?
It was very internet.
But like eight minutes, that's like longer than Freebird or something.
That's a long time to stand and clap for a thing.
So I don't know.
It bodes well.
It's true.
Very excited.
Anyway, watch for that in October.
But before that, we got to talk about some tech.
Today is the Daily Tech News show version of the TMS segment that we do called Tom's Tech Time.
And Tom probably got about some tech news that you've been digging around for the day.
What's going on?
What's happening?
Yeah, Amazon just announced its Just Walkout technology is coming to Whole Foods.
Oh.
If you're unaware, Just Walk Out was first installed in Amazon Go stores.
Those are like convenience store-sized places.
The idea being you scan a QR code.
or insert a credit card associated with your Amazon account
or are they now doing this palm thing
where you can associate your palm with your Amazon account?
You walk in, you get all your stuff, and you walk out.
You don't have to go through a cashier.
In larger stores, which they have done with Amazon Fresh,
which are their big 30,000 square foot grocery store size,
they make you scan it again on the way out.
I think with the Amazon Go stores, at least when they launched,
you could just walk out.
It would know you walked out and then it would charge you.
And the whole thing is there are cameras,
in the ceiling, cameras and sensors all over the place that can tell who you are and
what you pick up and charge you appropriately. And if you put something back, it tells
that. Everybody, you know, who's skeptical is like, that'll never work. People will steal stuff.
It'll mischarge. It's been running for a couple years now. And so far, there have not been
widespread horror stories. You know, I'm sure it makes mistakes from time to time. But it seems like
it works pretty well. So this is the big news is they're bringing it to Whole Foods,
which Amazon bought several years ago
and is the largest number of grocery stores it has.
Now, to start with, it's only going into the Glover Park neighborhood in Washington, D.C.
and the Sherman Oaks area in Los Angeles, California,
two stores to start next year.
But I guess if it works well there, the idea is to bring it to other Whole Foods stores.
And because anybody who knows anything about Whole Foods knows that Whole Food shoppers can be persnickety,
you don't have to use it.
As you walk in, you can decline like, no, no, no, I don't want to be tracked.
And then you can just use a self-checkout lane or they'll even have a customer service person to ring you up old-fashioned style if you really need it.
And that will be necessary if you're using EBT or EWIC or if you just want to pay with cash or a gift card or something.
Yeah, I 100% I'm down with this because they already have all the info on me they want.
So it's not like they're going to get any more by tracking what I pick up or don't pick up and whether I pay for it.
But my only thing I wanted to say about this was it feels like the naming's a little bad given that it's Amazon and the phrase just walk out feels like something that some of their employees who are a little pissed about working conditions.
It's also the name of the warehouse employee movement.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
That was the first thing that came into mind for me.
They named this before the cresting of the labor problems that they had.
So they're kind of stuck with it, I think.
Sure. Well, I mean, I would actually really like to try this, but it sounds like it's going to be a ways off for our whole foods here before I get in there.
Oh, come on. Fly out to Los Angeles. We'll head up to Sherman Oaks. I'm on my way. I'll be there tomorrow.
Oh, the other thing that's important about this is they say that they will continue to employ about the same number of people they would in any similar size store in these stores.
So they're not going to cut down on employees.
They're going to use those employees to help you out in the store, greet you at the front, you know, be available for problems.
So it's not like they're going to employ fewer people.
You know, with Amazon with its labor issues is hastening to point that out.
One would assume that there will be false positives, though, because that's just the nature of anything.
There's going to be one or two cases at some time here or there where that happens.
Yeah, but that's why I said that earlier is they've been doing this in areas in the U.K.,
they've been doing it at the convenience stores, they've been doing it at their big fresh stores,
and we have not heard stories of widespread mistakes.
I've seen a couple anecdotal things here and there, but it does seem like it works most of the time.
Yeah.
Well, I'm ready for this future.
Probably, probably no more mistakes than you have in a human cash.
year which also occasionally ring things up wrong right yes that's true right like that's the other thing
i was going to say we already got a lot of human air going on i know i do every time i go to every time i go
to smiths over here we have uh we have our moments but uh but yeah like i'm i'm i'm ready for this
future it's fine with me a lot of people get scared by this this is not really necessarily related
to this but i i was buying those big gallon jugs of water uh yesterday which we use in a in a little
dispenser thing and uh my regular thing is i i leave
nine of them, because it's 10 for
$10. I leave nine of them in the cart
and I put one on the conveyor belt
and then I tell them as they're ringing it up, I got
10 total. And then they ring it up.
It's all good. A guy bagging
yesterday, as soon as I came
up, he's like, he's got bottles in here.
And the grocery store
the cashier kind of glared at. I'm like,
yeah, okay.
I'll get to it.
That's great. You witnessed a little.
Whereas if I had had cashierless technology,
no unpleasantness for anyone.
everybody would have been fine.
You'd have gotten out of there and nobody would have been the wiser.
Garrett, do you look forward to our weird future walking out of stores and just knowing what you got?
Yeah.
I mean, again, so much of this conversation has been about verifying if it actually works.
And it's like, yeah, if it works pretty darn well, sign me out.
Yeah.
And the quicker they do it, the quicker everybody else would do it, right?
Like, we'll see this at smaller chains and, you know, all the trogers.
Well, yeah, that's another thing to keep in mind.
is they have already licensed this out to other customers. So Amazon, you know, in their
Amazon way, has turned something they developed for themselves into a platform that they're giving
out to, or not giving out, that they're licensing and selling to other customers. There's a place
in Delaware that's doing it. There's a few places overseas that are doing it. So this is happening.
This has been happening for years. It works. It's now beginning to spread where it's more
likely that you may run into a store that has it within the next year or two.
Yeah, J.C. Calhoun reminds me in the chat, too. There's these other methods like
Scan As You Go, which is a, you know, they also use some of that in the Whole Foods for a while
there, they're an equivalent to that. But like Sam's Club is Scan As You Go. I wonder if at the end
of all of this, what will end up being the dominant way of doing it will be the one that gives
the consumer the feeling that they have the most control while they're there. And scan as you go,
at least feels like you're doing it. You know what I mean?
mean like I'm the one that did this I know that I got five of these or whatever yeah yeah no it's
interesting like will will it be will it be a I don't trust you to get it right or will it be a gosh it sure
is a whole lot more convenient not to have to scan as I go yeah well because the other thing with scan as you
go is what if you make a mistake right right right and what if then you wander out with something
in your cart you know it's actually probably better for Amazon to just do the censors because again
I feel the resistance, not just in you, Scott, but in the world of like, this can't work.
And it's like, but it does.
It does.
It does.
I love it.
I can't wait for the first time I do it because I suspect I'm going to feel a certain feeling of like, I don't know, it's going to be euphoria or something.
I'm going to walk out of there and go, I just did.
I walked out and it just knew what I had and it's going to be great.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm all for it.
And that's the thing about the larger stores.
I don't know if Amazon Go has changed how it does things.
but in the Amazon Fresh stores and in the Whole Foods implementations that are coming up,
you will have to scan again on your way out.
Gotcha.
It does make you do a confirmation on your way out.
So you can't just walk out, really.
If you scanned your palm on the way in, you scan your palm on the way out.
If you scan a barcode on the way in, you scan the barcode on the way out.
What if you wore, okay, imagine it's a store like a Costco where you have like a lot of stuff,
clothes, food, whatever.
What if you wore the underwear you bought that?
there last week
and then it
charges you again
for that underwear
but you're wearing it
that's that's that's
not what happens
again this is not like
they're trying it for the first time right
this has been tried at at
I think a few hundred stores now for
a couple years and there's not
not every individual pair
what underwear are you buying that has individual
mechanisms within them that can
actually check to that is a very good point usually it's it sees you pick the thing up and put it in
your cart so right it's not scanning through your pants right you don't have an NFC chip in your
crotch I think of those little sticky appliquees that are always used to always be inside like the
DVD boxes like do you like carry a DVD box with you every time you go to Walmart what do you
I keep it in my underwear on my junk that's how you get that's how you get double scanned I bet
they're got they're out to get me uh no I'm all for this
I only ask the questions I know the world will ask, but personally, let's do it.
No, no, I appreciate that. I really do.
Let's do it. I'm ready to barrel through there and leave without talking to anybody.
I think that sounds great.
Well, speaking of barreling through and talking to people, later today, the Daily Tech News show happens at 2.30 Mountain Time.
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In fact, I was on, I remember when I was on Starcast and I remember thinking you were a really cool tomato, like you were really chill about the entire experience.
Yeah, and you also seemed to older.
A cool tomato, you know, a made-up thing I just made up.
Hey, look who it is.
I know that, boys.
Listen to this.
It's Nicole Spagnolo joining us from Colorado.
We need at least one Coloradon on the show.
Calerita.
Colorado.
She's here joining us, as she does every Wednesday, to do recommendals.
Nicole, welcome. How are you?
I'm good.
Yeah?
I says hello, too.
It's Maude.
It's not Maude.
It's Blanche.
Dorothy.
But she was Maude in the show Mod, and I always get them mixed up.
She's also Femputter.
Femputter thinks.
She's great.
I follow this guy on TikTok who reenacts scenes from the Golden Girls.
It's one of the best accounts that I follow.
Oh, really?
That sounds all right.
And the whole thing, it's amazing.
That sounds great.
You should share that with me because I would follow that.
I'm super into it.
I like that show, unapologetically, a Golden Girls fan.
So I'm with him.
Anyway, Nicole joins us on Wednesdays, as she always does, to do some recommendals.
and today it'll be fun because with our guest host, Garrett,
he has a recommendal as well.
I've watched a lot of things recently.
Yeah.
Well, we narrowed down, we narrowed down to one.
And I'm going to play it.
And people are going to know right away
because the clip I found for you is kind of obvious, I think.
But I'm dying to hear about this thing.
So we'll start with yours in place of Brian.
Normally we start with him.
It's a movie.
And you watch this where?
How did you see it?
you can rent it for like six or seven bucks basically anywhere you can rent your movies
your your your amazon's your apple tv pluses any any of those places all those places
all right well here's yeah here's the clip see if you guys can figure it out and you will but here
you go i'm looking for a truffle pig i don't i don't understand i just want to know about the pig
Come on, tell him.
Chef Feld.
Oh, my God.
May I?
How are you?
My God, you've been off the scene for what?
Ten years?
Fifteen.
Really? Okay.
I thought you would...
Well, I mean, the time is very...
Sure.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, do you mean medical attention?
No.
Thank you.
all right tell us tell us about pig i want to see pig i uh katy and i like have been him and
hawing about finally watching this this damn movie uh for weeks since it's been available to
to view on demand at home and uh finally just decided it was time to watch it um over the week
over the long weekend and um yeah it's it's nicholas cage the movie is literally called pig
just p i g um it got a lot of buzz when the trailer
came out because everyone, it seemed like, and their mother was yelling,
it's John Wick, but with a pig instead of a dog.
And I thought it was taken.
I mean, it's basically the same.
Taken with a pig.
I mean, the pig was taken.
There's not really a spoiler since it's like in the first few minutes of the movie and it's
in every trailer and every summary of the film.
So unless you're like anti-trailer, then you'll probably stop listening to this segment.
But, like, I loved it.
I will say, though, it is not John Wick.
It is not John Wick at all.
Yeah.
It's not like a revengey kind of thing at all, right?
It's just like a weird.
No, it feels that way.
Like, this, it is so textural and, like, slow and simmering.
And it just feels like it's constantly slowly escalating to a point of, like, you're just sitting there on the edge of your seat.
Like, when is this going to go off?
Mm-hmm.
Um, but it's, it's way more, it is like, it is a proper, just really good drama. Um, I, I think it's the best thing I've ever seen Nicholas Cage do. I keep hearing that. That's the best performance I've ever seen him. I keep hearing that. That surprises me because there's a lot of stuff he's good in. Like that's, that's, he's a good actor. And, and, and this movie, I think is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, it is, is, it is, is, it is, it is, it takes itself very seriously. Um, um, despite. Um, um, um, um, despite. Um, um, um,
how hilarious it is to be like,
oh yeah,
it's the Nicholas Cage movie
where he's trying to find a pig.
Like that sounds so absurd
because Nicholas Cage is like a,
he is a meme.
Like,
yeah,
by simply by existing.
But yeah,
the movie,
it was just really good is,
is all I can say.
It's like,
it's got some,
it sounds cheesy and corny,
but it's some really good themes
about like,
kind of like being true to yourself.
And it really has kind of a scathing criticism
of hipster culture and gentrification, it's, it's a good movie.
Okay.
I'm in.
I cannot recommend it enough.
I'm in.
It's sad, though.
It is, and not, not in obvious ways.
It goes to some pretty serious and, uh, and difficult emotional places.
Okay.
Well, sign me up.
I'm a fan of, uh, super interested in this.
It feels like it's the kind of guy that these days in his career that he's going to, he's
going to accept every deal that comes his way.
And 94% of it's going to be.
of bad but it will pay the bills and you know whatever keep him working and then once in a while
something will fall on his lap where you're like oh okay this is this is actually really good and
I feel that way about was it Mandy that weird horror movie I was going to ask if you had seen that
yeah that thing was no oh you should watch Mandy dude weird I mean I wouldn't call like an
amazing performance per se but the film itself oh this is I've seen the trailer for this
this is already out yeah oh yeah I saw it on shutter I didn't
I didn't know that really really really good but also one of the weirdest things I've ever seen and like I say like if you do enough stuff I guess eventually you're going to hit you know a couple of quality things I don't know he's just such a weirdo everything about his career cracks me up and is strange and is interesting and I really like him when he's good so hearing this makes me stoked I'm going to see it I'm going to rent it and I'm going to watch it more all right well done uh here's mine it's a documentary
Yeah, that's right. I like those.
And it's Amazon Prime, who has the rights for this one.
Okay, we're safe.
Oh, good. Are we, oh, whew.
Because a couple of times, I always run over Nicole's.
It just feels like, I guess Brian does too, but.
But not today.
Today is this one, so I'll play it and see if you guys can figure it out.
It'll probably be easy.
I've wanted to tell a story about acting for a very long time.
About truth and illusion.
A sermon is going to be about truth and elude.
the truth is in order to find each character i've had to put a little bit of me and them
and find a little bit of them in me i've lived in the illusion almost as much as i've lived outside of
it guesses thoughts anyone it's a documentary yep and that i'll give you the the one
the hint here is that that is not the per that the voice you're hearing sounds a lot like the
Val, I started to watch this.
Oh, good.
There you go, then.
You got it.
It's Val, the Val Kilmer thing.
Oh, gotcha.
I haven't seen this yet.
Highly recommend this documentary.
Even though it's a little navel-gazy.
What?
Well, how do I put this?
It's like...
Did you say navel-gazy?
Yeah, like, naval, you ever heard of navel gazing?
It's like, how do you?
define that. Let me give you their actual definition.
Navel gazing. Okay.
Not navel gazing.
Gain in your navel for
blade button.
Here it is. It's self-indulgent.
Self-indulgent. There's the word. Self-indulgent.
The actual definition is excessive
introspection, self-absorption, or
concentration on a single issue.
This is definitely that
because it's, you know, it's Val Kilmer and it's him
narrating the whole damn thing.
But he's not...
And it's not him, by the way. That's a voice of someone who
sounds like him when he's younger because he can't narrate anything because he had throat
cancer and he can't he can't he can't talk anymore um his voice well he can but it's through
one of those bear bar bar bar things in his neck and he's barely audible they have to subtitle
everything he actually tries to say but this is him talking now about his life about his
process about the films he's been in uh why he took certain roles certain roles he wanted
to get away from but glad he didn't because they helped to find who he was going to be
um his method for acting he's very much a method actor of his time and anyway it's really interesting
um i found it to be kind of hard to look away from i really enjoyed it and um part of that i think is
that you know here's a guy in his gosh he's got to be pushing 60 then something like that um he looks
nothing like he used to look he used to be this hunky you know Hollywood dude um who who did a lot of art
artsy projects, but also a lot of like mainstream Hollywood stuff like the saint and the
Batman movie and, you know, all those sorts of things and things in the middle like heat
and, you know, amazing movies like that. He gets throat cancer late in his career and it was a bad
one and it really tore him up and now he looks nothing. You'd see him in a crowd and go, I don't
know who that is. You'd have no idea it was Val Kilmer. It's just completely different human
being. I mean, it really ravaged him. But he's retained his wit, his sarcasm, his sort of weird
outlook on life and he's just sort of living his own to his own beat and there's something really
fascinating about all of that and I really really liked it and they touch on almost every movie
you can think of Doc Holliday and in Tombstone his Jim Morrison and the Doors movie that got
him an Oscar nomination the island of Dr. Moreau yeah they talked about that and his wife
leaving him while he was filming that oh wow and him not
knowing that she was leaving at all, like there was no expectation for that.
And this was someone he met doing a movie like real genius or something.
I may have mixed up which movie it was.
But anyway, there's this whole just like story and they jump back and forth.
So it's, oh, that's the other thing.
The important thing and the reason this documentary even exists is because as far back as like
the early 80s, when he's hanging out with like Kevin Bacon and these different actors from
that era, they're all really young, he's got a video camera.
Nobody else does.
this isn't now where we all have phones it was back in the day when no one had a video camera
he had one everywhere he went so val Kilmer filmed everything behind the scenes of top gun
behind the scenes of everything and he's just film and film and film and film and all the time
and it reminds you of that kid 90 documentary that a little bit recommended a while back a little
in fact a whole lot actually funny you'd say that a whole lot it reminds me of that and uh you know
so you get to see all these other people you get to see kind of where his head was at during all
of this and you have actual footage of his family and his brother who died way too early and
that kind of how that affected him and all this anyway there's a lot more to it and I don't want
to tell you guys the entire documentary but I think it's really worth seeing if you are at all
interested in his career and even if you're not just kind of you know here's an artist
and here's what makes him tick kind of kind of kind of thing going on there but you know if
you don't like Val Kilmer probably aren't going to like this because it's all about
It's all about him.
Literally, the thing is the name of his first name.
So anyway, it's on Amazon Prime.
It's an Amazon Prime original, and it's, I would assume, they're in perpetuity.
So if you have Prime video, you can go watch that anytime you want.
Okay.
He almost turned down Top Gun.
And he is in the new Top Gun movie, but no one knows how that'll be.
Like, no one knows if he's going to, it'll be like, oh, Iceman had cancer.
And so we're going to, Maverick's going to see him or something.
Or we don't know.
I'm really curious.
the first thing I ever remember seeing him in.
Yeah, right? That was a big deal for him.
Real genius for me. No, top secret.
Top secret, yeah. And they talk a ton about top secret and show a bunch of footage from it.
Yeah, something that grew up in the 90s, like, the top going, it's just always on repeat.
If it was on TV, my dad was watching it all the way through.
So I saw it a million times.
Dude, Top Gun is great.
Willow before Top Secret.
That already was in Willow.
No, Top Secret, Willow then Top Gun, I think, is the order.
And Will, well, he talked a lot about Willow.
uh there's just a ton of stuff it's really cool anyway if you're if that's interesting to you
well then get in there i mean he isn't one of the greatest films ever made which is uh heat heat is
one of the finest films ever made ever it's the greatest heist movie ever made in my opinion
that movie is on my wall of shame i have not seen here oh garrett you'll love it it's so good
make sure you're on that hot new tv years and get some good sound because the shootout scene
in the bank is still among the most visceral uh
Oh, geez, thanks for the spoiler, Scott.
There's a shootout in a bank and heat.
Oh, my God.
There's no point watching this movie now.
I gave the whole thing away in one fell swoop.
Anyway, available now.
All right, Nicole, what did you see or do?
I gave you some clips.
Oh, there they are right here.
The trailer is nothing but instrumental.
And so I couldn't just give you the trailer.
Well, no worries, because I'll find it right now.
This is the one listed as today.
There we go.
The one that says recommendals.
Got it.
Not the German accent.
Not the German accent?
Okay.
All right, here it is.
Sometimes I was walking around in the warehouse.
There was a big table with a lot of paintings all over the place.
And I saw a guy painting with a script liner brush signing the signature of Bob Ross on the painting.
I thought, hey, wait a minute, this guy died and now somebody signing a Bob Ross painting.
What's going on here?
A lot of people are able to paint almost exact copies of Bob Ross.
And you don't see the difference.
I don't see the difference.
Nobody can see the difference.
The difference probably is a signature.
But even then you don't know if it is valid.
Walt, is that a Bob Ross over there?
That is a Bob Ross painting.
Because somebody told me that it was.
I can pretty much recognize.
pretty much recognize the Bob Ross painting.
What do you think about the idea that the only person that is qualified to authenticate a Bob Ross painting is, in fact, a Net Kowalski?
Bullshit. B.S. Sorry. B.S. Sorry. Bologna. When I saw that guy, that was for me one of the triggers to say, there's something very wrong here.
Okay. This is that Bob Ross thing. I've got to see this.
Yes, this is the Bob Ross documentary on Netflix. And the trailer is so, like, dramatic.
at it, because it was like, we can't show you this, blah, blah.
I was like, all right, I'll fine.
I'll just watch it.
Because, I mean, I have fond memories of Bob Ross.
I think everyone has fond memories of Bob Ross and the joy of painting.
And, like, there was, like, the whole resurgence of, because of the ASMR going on.
But as you watch this, you realize.
He's right up there with, like, Fred Rogers or whatever.
It's like this, you know, pure, wholesome kind of thing from everyone's childhood.
and, yeah, that whole thing.
So you heard in that clip, Annette Kowalski,
her husband also was in there,
and they basically did Bob Ross wrong.
And the Reddit forum for Bob Ross,
woo, they're in a tizzy.
They're in a tizzy.
They're actually petitioning Netflix
to give Bob Ross's son, Steve Ross,
his own painting show on Netflix.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know his son,
his son, I guess he paints. He must paint.
Yes. So he was in. You learn
about the history of the show, how it came
to be. It's a really fascinating
kind of behind
the scenes of
how this show became so popular.
And Bob Ross
was a good guy, but he was also human.
So you get to see some behind the scene stuff
of him, you know, playing around,
trying to get his son
as one of
the art
instructors. And, you know, with
anything.
Greed.
And that's why I think it's called like greed and whatever.
I can't remember the whole title.
Greed and whatever.
Here it is.
It's called the,
or wait,
what's it called?
Crap.
I had,
oh,
happy accidents,
betrayal and greed.
This is called.
Betrayal and greed.
Yeah.
So,
but Bob Ross was trying to set up his son as like his successor.
But there's like all of this like shady
stuff happening with art
classes and paints
and brushes
and it's like you wouldn't think
there's that much drama
in the art supply world but
there is
and the
Kowowski's are not happy
about the documentary at all
figure and
they couldn't get a lot of people to
be on camera because they were afraid of being
sued by them
so
interesting
I highly recommend watching it if you have, you know, memories of Bob Ross.
So somehow, what's her names involved in this as a producer?
Crapp, I can't give her name.
The actress, she's in the other, the Heat movie.
She was on Gilmore Girls.
What's wrong with me?
She was of the bridesmaids.
Melissa McCarthy is a co-producer on this thing.
She is.
Yeah, and there was some interview with her where she said,
this is all I've seen with this was this interview,
but she said that when they built this or when they were making this documentary,
their goal was to just make a Bob Ross documentary and find out how he ticks.
A little bit more like the like the Fred Rogers documentary.
All the ins and outs of it, him testifying in Congress.
It's like here's a complete Mr. Rogers documentary, which is kind of what that documentary is.
They went out to do that here and she was saying that they just kept running into all this weirdness.
And like backstabby, strange, who owns rights to what?
people tapping phone calls apparently um so there was a um trust that was set up so bob ross's son
was younger um bob ross's half brother had 51 percent control of his name and then bob ross's son
had 49 percent um and just i don't want to give the documentary way but shady shady stuff and
there's Bob Ross had like audio tapes of conversations that was part of the deal and like yeah
it's crazy well I'm giving it a watch I'm into it I'm gonna see it I mean at first I was a little bit nervous
because their trailers I hate their trailer it's yeah the trailer is awful and I know what they're trying
to say they're trying to say like oh what we found is you know we didn't know we were gonna find
you know it's just a way to get people to watch it and I just think it's a little too much but
yeah I'm glad to hear it's actually there's no sex tape
Yeah, there's no Bob Ross sex tape.
Is there?
There's not.
Be true you're looking for.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't want there to be one.
Please tell me there isn't one.
I hope not.
All right.
Sounds like there's not.
All right.
Great, great pick.
And I filmed the guy,
because the way that German guy was saying Bob Ross.
I just loved how he said Bob Ross.
Bob Ross.
I like when he said bullshit.
I'm sorry.
B.S. Balloni.
Bologna.
Yeah.
This trailer keeps like auto.
playing like everything on Netflix. I can't, I can't stand that. And I'm, when I first heard about
the documentary, I was like, oh, this sounds interesting. But the trailer absolutely took all the
way out of my sales of wanting to watch it. So I'm glad to hear it's, it's, it's worth
a watch. Well, there's even a go fund me to try to, because Bob Ross's son, Steve, and a couple
of Bob's like partners tried to actually create a company and then lost the lawsuit. And they
didn't have the money to fight it.
So there's a go fund me trying to raise
money to help them
do this line of products.
So I hope something good happens from it
because I feel really bad for Steve.
Yeah, he seems cool. And you're right,
this Reddit community's up in arms, man.
Look at these guys. I'm looking at the page and they're just like
Steve. He's going to have a documentary next
that just completely shatters our view
of their
heyday. Because I, having just watched
the Britney, the free Britney documentary.
Let's think. Who would it be?
Who would, who, who, who's in line for a big blowout?
Steve from Blue's Clues.
Oh, did you see something yesterday?
Did you watch that?
I did. Although it seems like he has a pretty good relationship with Nickelodeon, like,
I love that.
I thought that was amazing.
And I'm not even at the age that needs to hear that, but my kids were.
And I'd love this.
I was the age where that show was the number one thing.
I could not stand my little brother watching.
Like, I just, I just wanted to throw a brick through the,
television every time it was on because I was just in the age where I'm like, I'm too cool for
this. And my brother was a perfect age for Nick Jr. programming. And like that show,
and I think Little Bear at the time, just drove me crazy. Yeah. It was for my daughter Carter,
who's now 24, this was her, Blues Clues was the jam. That was there for her age group. And she loved
it so much. And she got, you know, she was in tears yesterday watching that. Oh, I teared up. I was like,
this was not even meant for me.
I know. I know. It was really sweet. And somebody on Twitter, the first thing they said to me was,
he looks like some 45-year-old guy. And I'm like, well, actually, he's 47. And yeah, he's a guy. I mean,
what are you even saying? We all get older.
Yeah. Yeah. I know. Everything I've ever, I've never heard a bad thing about Steve Burns, the actor.
I know, he's a super nice guy. He tried to get into music for a while. And I guess that didn't work out great.
But, you know, other than that, he left because he was balding.
Yeah. I mean, that he was getting older. And he's like, I can't let the kids see me get old.
basically. I'm sure he was ready to move on. That was a really sweet. I just thought it was a
sweet little message and you don't know, but who, but as far as like who's the next like get torn apart
and oh my gosh, I can't believe Bill Cosby did that kind of moment for me. I don't even want to
think about it. Because you know there's somebody, there's some fuse just waiting to be lit right now
on somebody we all love and respect. If the Blizzard stuff taught me anything, it's like,
I can't get, I can no longer kind of worship at the feet of anybody anymore because it bites me in the
But so.
Funny thing with this Bob Ross documentary, I still love and admire Bob Ross.
I do not ever want to support Bob Ross, Inc.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of where I was taking it, too, is like, kind of giving me like new respect for
certain figures.
Like that's what the Britney Spears documentary definitely did for me.
Because I didn't really listen to Britney Spears growing up.
I was not exactly the target demo, but kind of watching what she went.
and still is going through.
It was like,
oh, my God,
like mad respect.
I haven't watched that yet
because it makes you want to punch somebody
when I hear about.
I think it's a very good documentary.
And especially considering
kind of the movement
that's been happening
in just the last month
in terms of...
Well, there was a lot of women,
girls at the time,
and they were young.
There was, you know,
what's Amanda Binds?
Oh, my God.
All these poor girls at that time.
Kind of just put through the meat grinder and it just, yeah, it's, it's amazing that like Mandy Moore got out of that era.
Yeah, she's still doing okay.
Yeah, as well as she did.
Yeah.
Once in a while, a kid actor will, you know, impressed with how well they escaped the jaws of the horrible Hollywood system, but or music, I guess it depends.
But, yeah, there's always some.
I don't understand is you always have like the retro.
So we have the retrospect of like the TV actors.
So like Emmanuel Lewis and Dana from different strokes.
I remember her last name.
Dana Plato.
But you have that era of kids that it really messed them up.
And they're like, all right, we're going to make changes.
And then you got another generation of messed up kids.
It's like, and now wait till they do the YouTube.
kids. Holy moly.
Oh, it's going to be bad, right?
Like, it's already bad.
Some of the biggest YouTubers right now,
already, there's already problems. You think it's going to get
any better? No. Especially the
young ones, but they're like, their gigantic
followings and they're only like six. I worry
about those kids.
Worried about them.
Conservatorships are stupid, is the point.
Hey, so, this is awesome.
Let's have Nicole do what she does
all the time. Every week. She puts this list
together what we talked about today and puts it
on Twitter. So you've got a follower, Nicole Spag
on Twitter, and you'll find out all the stuff
we watched and why you should be watching it
as well. Nicole, you got anything else going on?
You want to mention? Anything good?
Nothing, really. I'm learning about
3D printing now. Nice.
I'm all about the 3D printing.
Nice. Are you going to show us next week? You've got to show us
what you've printed or what you're making.
I did a lithophane. Have you ever seen
those where you can take a photograph and
turn it into a really cool 3D print? I watched
your kids flip out
while they were doing that.
Which is awesome.
I'm teaching fifth graders how to do 3D printing this year.
That's amazing.
Like in class?
Yeah, I'm doing a 3D printing club.
I have 26 little minds going, yes, teach me 3D printing.
I'm like, all right, let's do this.
I'm going to play just for fun.
Mateo's laugh when he was little.
You remember when he used to do that?
It's hilarious.
I know.
I love it.
He lost it. I'm so glad we were able to capture that.
Yep. Always be recording, everybody.
Nicole Spagg, have a wonderful week.
Bye.
See, Nicole.
Bye now.
All right.
Well, Garrett, we've come to that part of the show.
That part of the show being the end of it.
We're about done.
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Before we go, Garrett, we should talk real quick briefly about where people can get all your
stuff. I know we've already said it, but let's say it again. Where do they go to get all the
AmovTV.tv. I guess Amov.t.v.tv is where they go. Amov.move.com is a great place to go. Yeah. It's the letter A. Move is a
reference to attack moving commands and RTSs because I got my start covering StarCraft.
And every time I mention that, at least one person tweets at me and goes, oh my God, I never
understood it until now. Now they understand. I was new. The minute I saw it, I went, that is
clever. If you're an RTS fan at all, you know exactly what Garrett means, but I'm always surprised
how many people don't get it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So go check it out. Again, go give my new,
my latest podcast. Look, it's called Nexus Gaming News. It's up everywhere. Podcasts can be found.
It appears it may not be quite up on Google Podcasts yet, but their dashboard is a nightmare and I
don't know how much I should trust it. It's horrible. Can I just say, okay, I've been podcasting
for nigh on what I started doing shows in 03. So that's a long.
time or 99, but let's not even count that.
Let's jump all the way to 2014.
16 years, 2004,
16 years I've been doing this.
No one has ever had a worse system for getting podcasts in, approved, done, and listed than Google Podcasts.
It's terrible.
Yeah.
Horrendous.
Yeah.
At least the sound quality is good.
Like, Stitcher still makes me the angriest, but at least they're easy to submit to and their dashboard is user-friendly.
Google, it's, like, I'm looking at right now.
says it's there, it's up, it's approved.
I don't know to trust them because they don't give you a link.
There's no way to go check if you don't have an Android device, which I don't.
Once they work, it's fine.
It's just the process of getting it there and then having it there and knowing it's
there, it's just really weird.
I don't know why they did that.
It is really rough and it is like consistently the smallest audience, too.
And yet the folks that use it, they love it.
And that's like, that is what they get their podcast through.
And so, like, I don't want to leave you up to dry.
So it should be there soon.
As far as Google is concerned, it says everything's A-OK.
But I know it's on Apple.
I know it's on PocketCast.
I know it's on Spotify, Stitcher.
And YouTube.com slash AmoVTV, if you want to watch the video version.
Nice.
Go check it out.
Go do that.
It's been great having you here.
Now, before we go, oh, yeah, Garrett and I and Jocelyn are on the instance on Friday.
So check that out.
Make sure you check us out this week.
I don't know what our topic is.
We've got to come up.
one quick. We do, but I'm sure it'll be a wildly fascinating and extremely thoughtful
conversation. I am 100% sure that that will be true. But between now and then, I need some
musical inspiration and Garrett chose our outro song as well. So tell us about this song and why you
chose it and why I'm completely hooked on it. You don't have to explain that last part, but I am
hooked. Well, as I guess a bonus recommendal over the weekend, we begrudgingly tried Ted Lasso. I
didn't think I was going to like it because I don't give a flying crap about soccer. And usually
sports shows don't do much for me.
I have now seen all of Ted Lassow.
I loved it so much.
And Katie and I are cussing a lot more
because we're pulling ourselves around the house,
quoting Roy Kent.
That show has me thinking about Mumford and Sons a lot
because the first name
I do not know Mumford does the score for Ted Lassos.
All of the non-licensed music in that
is the lead singer of Mumford and Sons
as well as the intro song,
which is a unique song just for that.
So Mumford and Sons have been on my mind.
and I know it's coming here.
And probably my second favorite cover of all time is a cover of Little Lion Man by Australian band Tonight Alive.
They're like a pop punk, like alt rock band out of Sydney.
Really, really good band.
Obviously, if you're familiar with the song, Little Lion Man, there's enough.
There's a couple of f-bombs in here.
But this song absolutely rips.
So I hope you enjoy everybody.
Got completely hooked on it.
I've listened to it four times this morning.
morning alone, and I would have kept going had the show not started. So I don't know what my
problem is or why I think this covers so great, but I actually think it supersedes the original,
which is hard to, hard to say, because I actually really like Mumford and Sons. But anyway,
here it is. A quick warning. Got a couple of F-bombs in it. If you know that song, you already
knew that, but they're in there. So just a warning, I'm not going to bleep them or cut them out.
I'm going to let them lie, just giving you a fair warning there at home. If you are opposed to
such things, you've got kids in the car or whatever, just know that those are coming.
up. All right. That's going to do it. Oh, and Garrett mentioned that already. So I don't know why I'm
repeating that. But anyway, here it is. We'll be back tomorrow. Kim will be here co-hosting. Brian will be
back this weekend. So next Monday, you'll have TMS with Brian. And hopefully a live call from him
tomorrow. We'll try to arrange that today. So we'll let you know. That's going to do it for us.
Thanks for listening. We'll see you then.
Weep little lion man
You're not as brave as you were at the start
Rate yourself and rick yourself
Take all of the courage you have left
Wasted on fixing all the problems that you made in your own head
But it was not your fault but mine
And it was your heart on the life
on the line
I really fucked it up this time
Didn't I my dear
Didn't I my
Tramble for yourself
You know to know you have seen as you
As long before
tremble little lion and you'll never settle any of your scores
Your grace isn't wasted on your face your bumma stands alone among your leg
Now learn from your mother or I'll spend your days biting your own neck
But it was not your fault the way
And it was your heart on the light
I really fucked it up this time
Did I my dare?
But it was not your fault in late
And it was your heart on the lead
I really fucked it up this time
Deli my dear
Deli my dear
Thank you.
Oh, oh, and so on the
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh.
I.
Oh.
Oh.
But it was not your fault been made, it was not your fault been made.
heart on the lane
I really fucked it up this time
Deline my dear
But it was not good for the rain
And use your heart on the lane
I really fucked it up this time
Deline my dear
Deline my dear
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