The Morning Stream - TMS 2174: Taco Del Ariana Grande

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

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They hit us with 400 gigawatts of particle. Energy. No ticky, no washy. This is the morning stream. Welcome to TMS, everyone. It is Wednesday, September 15th, 2021. This is the morning stream. This is the morning stream on Scott Johnson with Brian Abbott. Hello, Brian. Hello, Scott. The Norm news hit me really hard. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. But it's the most norm-ass thing I've ever heard. To go nine years with a fight with cancer and never tell anybody, that is norm as shit to do that. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Totally is. There are three comedians that have influenced my entire life in major ways. David Letterman, John Cleese,

and maybe most of all, Norm MacDonald. He's my favorite comedian. And that was just a horrible, shocking news. Like, the night before Carter and I were skimming through YouTube, finding old Letterman and Conan O'Brien interviews with Norm. Like where he was on there? Yeah, because they're just funny. They're great to just go watch and stuff.

Yeah. I know he's on the Orville. Now I have another reason to watch the Orville, finally. There you go. I forgot about that. And his appearances on Howard's, Stern or something to look up as well because he again he really just needs a foil to to deadpan against and it's uh Howard Stern's another great one that that can act as that

foil yeah and not trying to be funny that's the thing when you're with norm you can't try to be funnier than norm no it's not actually possible like no it's not possible the room there are there are times like he's famous for this joke he told on a conan o'brien months where it purposely went on way too long. It's an amazing joke. I saw that post yesterday on Twitter. It's great. It's an amazing joke and it goes on way too long and I can't think of another comedian that could pull it off. There's nobody who could pull that off and get the last thing.

My favorite norm joke is like 10 seconds long and it's like this way topping the college charts better than Ezra. Coming at number two, Ezra. and it was like this this and he sits in stairs to the camera for a while afterwards and it's the greatest thing it's like one of the funniest things he ever did on starting it live i just love that one there's another i gotta here i'm gonna play you a clip um i like this one for some reason where is it uh okay this is recent actually this is him him interviewing dave on his weird podcast show okay and he said this uh i don't want fancy things or fancy schmancy things I don't even want fancy schmancy wancy things or fancy schmancy take a trip to francy things. What I want is wasting your time and mine. See, it's not even a good joke, but it's the way he does it. It's the way he delivers it. Gosh, dang it.

We should all watch, we should all go watch Dirty Work in his honor. Yeah, we should, we should, oh, DirtyWorks. That's a great movie. Yeah, it really is. I didn't know that was direct. by um full house guy uh was his name stamos no the other one uh the main uh sagget sabgit bob saggut cooyer it was it was bob sagget directed that thing and wrote it wow i had no idea either um yeah currently streaming on hbo max hey so if you've got your it's rare that we come up

with something we talk about it and whoa it's available to stream right now weird weird all right well we should get on that uh speaking to getting on things we have to do things a little out order today because we've got a guy with a hair appointment and we cannot be able for his damn hair hair. Hair waits for no man. No, especially not this man with his long locks of luscious brown hair. So we're going to get right in. Hey, look who it is.

It's Brian Dunaway joining us for Babble Royale, a tadpooly feud edition. Hello, Brian. Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Hi. Hello. You have a haircut? Brown, brown hair. That was a weird way to start a conversation for me.

You got the brown hair, right? It's sort of dark. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's brown. Yeah. And you're going to get... Ooh, Mr. Brown hair. Yeah, yeah. We've got blue eyes and brown hair.

Baby, how you do it? What a combo. Is it just a haircut? Are you getting like a full salon treatment, or what's the plan? I'm getting a shave and a haircut. Yeah. Two bits. It's going to cost you more than two bits?

Yeah, probably. No, I'm just getting haircut. I don't know. Hey, man, I'm a guy. I'm loose and easy. I just said my hair looks like it something that you to be done to it. So I contacted my hair person and now I'm going and I'm going to get there and she's going

to go, well, what do you want to do? And I'm like, you know, do your thing. Do you have a hair person, like a regular hair person that you go to all the time? Yeah, I just, I just text her. I'm like, hey, it's that time. Got an opening? Yeah. She says, okay, come Wednesday.

We got a Wednesday opening. So we got to make a Wednesday. You don't have a hair guy? What do you like? Sports clip? Look, I'm not that. low rent i don't have my hair guy is my wife and she's not a guy so uh that's oh your hair guy's a floby i got you i'm with you my hair guy plugs in and charges uh all right hey let's get

straight to it then we're going to play the tadpooly feud uh i see we're both logged in that's fantastic brian do you want to explain how this works and what we should oh i guess here's how this thing is going to go we do need a listener uh it's time to play oh yeah do we that's right I get a listener before I tell people how to play, don't we? It's been a while, and so this threw me a little. Let's see if we can grab somebody real quick. So chat room, y'all got to call in, 801-47-1-0-462 if you want to be a part of today's thing. Good prizes today, by golly.

Yep. Oh, here we go. We got a listener. Hi, thanks for calling. Who's this? Hey, this is I-Corps. It's I-Corps. Oh, my gosh.

I don't think we have enough I-Corps call-ins. He's all over everything else, but he never calls in. So I'm really glad to have you, man. Welcome to the show. Okay, Brian, now you can explain how this works. Okay. It's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics.

Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us, and it's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, I-Corps, your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian, and if your team wins, you get a prize package that includes. Well, it really is just made up of these two things. There's nothing else in there. It's The Witness, and This War of Mine, Final cut both on Steam, both fantastic games. The Witness is great, like a mist-like puzzler. Yeah, it's very

good. The braid guy did it. Jonathan Blow made that game, and he's a genius. Cool. Very cool. So that's what you can win. But to win, we have to play, and to play, I have to give you guys a topic. Now, I want to say, all the topics that we've been doing for the last several months have come from listeners, right? These were topics that they suggested in the previous survey, I give everybody in the field to say, hey, do you have an idea for another topic? They put it in. I use it for the next poll.

This one was straight from Satan. Yeah. That's right. This one came straight from saying, no, I wanted to preface that, that I did not come up with this question. Wow. You're, you're shamed of it? Is that what you're?

No, I'm flattered and honored and then a little bit in Paris, I'm okay, okay, I'm getting too much information. You're going to ask that quick. So, put your hands on your buzzers, guys, on your buzzards. Got it. And give me 342. Tadpoolers answered, they gave their answer to this. What is your favorite impersonation by Brian Ibbett?

Oh, I see why you're a little embarrassed by it. It's the Russian, Russian. Russian. Show me your Russian neighbor. Oh, number one. one answer. Nice. It's not actually my favorite,

but it's all I could think of at the moment. Oh, good. Well, that might give Donoway a chance on this one. Yeah. That's really good. This is really like the family feud. Don't they usually do like the little

Steve Harvey once in a while to say, what would you do to Steve Harvey's mustache and he acts all embarrassed? I stopped watching when Richard Dawson stopped. Oh, my God. I watched a couple. I watched a couple of the, I watched a couple of

You missed the guy who shot himself. You missed the Richard Cairn or Cern. Right. The Home Improvement guy. You missed the big guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Louis Anderson.

Louis Anderson. Louis. You miss Louis? He surveyed 125vog got their answer to this. That's not one of your best impressions. Nope. Nope, there you will be on the board. Anyway, I-Corps, you're going to be working with Scott.

So the two of you, currently have control of the board. All right. I core. Oh, yeah. Ray Combs. I forgot about Ray Combs. You've probably been ruminating over there.

Do you have one that jumps out at you right away? Well, my personal favorite is the Kiss Guys, Paul Stanley. Oh, yeah, the Paul Stanley. Well, see, it's usually me doing Paul Stanley and he does Gene Simmons. So maybe it'd be the, I don't know, we say Kiss Guys or something like that. Yeah, we can say Kiss Guys. All right, let's say Kiss Guys. Kiss guys.

Give it. All right. Show me. this guys oh really jimms did come up on the list fortunately paul stanley didn't but he's way down

jean simmons was geez he's low he's low on the list paul stanley had uh had the covid had the breakthrough infection i think he's doing okay i think he's all right but he got on uh did a video and said i that thing i was vaccinated and had it less than most people holy shit was it still bad so yeah my uncle

my aunt and uncle currently have COVID. Both of them got the vaccine. She's got MS, so we're kind of keeping an eye on things. But right now, like a bad cold for them, fortunately. Okay, good. Well, that's what the numbers show. So hopefully it sticks. All right.

All right. So, Brian Dunaway, a question goes over to you. What did the Tadpool say their favorite impersonation is by yours truly? Not a problem. All I got to do is kind of keep fishing a little bit. bit because if it is like he can't resist a good opportunity to do an impression it's funny at the top of the show i said i'm not going to do any impersonation and then i lunged into a norm macdonald impersonation from weekend update yeah good job um how old is this question can you tell me that yeah i can okay okay

so i was going to say norm macdonald be a good answer but you know i mean i mean uh you can see that sure i'm feeling you out You did it. June, this question was asked back in June. Okay. All right. Oh, shoot. I don't know, man.

I mean, other than crazy neighbor. Really, I think, I should be helping you out, honestly. That's what I'm thinking. You guys know I don't listen to TMS. Right, right. Why would you want to list us every day? Exactly. I don't feel you.

Yeah. There's a couple that I love. I'm just going to go since, I'm just going to go when I love. I love when you do Johnny number five, but no one knows. that because that was this question was asked way before then my johnny number five impersonations lasted about one day yes it's my personal favorite yeah and i'm part of the i'm part of the you know frog pants stuff so yeah absolutely you are show me no disassemble not on there not even anywhere in the list but that doesn't surprise me because of where this

list uh when this thing was done so june June the problem with June is Oh, go ahead. What are we going to say? Ken Crats. Oh, Ken Crats has to be on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this is old. There's going to be the older ones.

Like, I was thinking there's one that he does recently that's very good, but I don't think it would have been there in June. So, yeah, Ken Crats. I agree. All right. All right. Okay. We're going to bring out Exhibit A. Show me Ken Crats.

Can I send you a quick text about that? Oh, look at that. number four you included his skeevie freaking stuff he got up to later that we found out of come over later and I'll show you my briefs those videos back in the day that we sent back in the world it was so funny face swap or something it was so good all right I feel pretty good about that

all right number four by the way for those who missed it was 10 crats okay uh probably he's okay i was thinking stan lee how do you feel about that oh that's good yeah yeah okay i have another one too but yeah stanley okay hold that one because we're gonna need it i have a feeling uh so we'll say stanley all right show me celtior there you go i even i knew that yeah that's a good one fine to think of that okay what we it's a man what's his power oh um well right behind ken crats for me is uh Vince gilligan Oh. All right, Vince Gilligan, two, two weeks, that guy.

Two weeks. Just sitting on the front stoop, drinking some mint juleks. All right, show me Vince Gilligan. I'm not going to do, I'm not going to do voices for every single one. I was going to ask, this is a real showcase we're getting today. It'll take forever. He'll take longer than that Norm McDonald joke on Conan. Nicely done. How do you feel about, was it too early when he was doing his Tina thing? Yeah, I was just thinking that.

I was thinking Tina, but I was wondering if that was something we were there doing in June. Yeah, man, June was, feels like a million miles away now. I don't know. I've already said it. If you don't say it, then I'm trying to say it. Let's put, let's put it on there.

Let's get it out of the way. Yeah, your, your thing you do of when Tina replies to you, the fake Tina past. Brian. That one. I wonder what's bleakish. All right, show me, Tina. Damn it! It was too early. It was too early for the Tina impersonation.

Ah, crap. And Claire can confirm she spent the whole evening with Tina. Sounds just like Tina. Yeah, of course. Oh, my God. That is so terrible. I was at Nerdtacular long enough to know. Some of it buzz in and she go, Randy? Because Randy buzzed it. The new impression you're going to be doing is a single man if you don't stop it. That's right. Exactly. It's going to be.

Hey, how about How about everybody's favorite impression we've heard for like four or five years of Mr. Trump? Everybody had one. No, I don't think I don't feel like Let's do Trump. I don't know if it's a favorite, but it's the only thing I can think of right now. Sure.

All right. Show me Donald Trump, but don't show me too much of them. Oh, number two. Wow. Number two on the list. It's funny. The, yeah, there were quite a few people. people who said anybody but Trump in the in the list I gave that as an answer which I couldn't I couldn't like I couldn't do anything with yeah but I'm surprised that one's on there you do a good one but it's just it's a rare it's rare it's rare it's rare and it's a little it's a tender it's a sore spot still it's a sore spot right but you know when people are doing these kind of questions are like I don't know I don't know yeah who knows you're on a roll done like I'm doing right now yeah don't you do it like I'm doing it right now don't you do it

I don't know why. When they say Ken Crats, Kratz, I first thought you did, like, Ken Burns. And I'm like, but I ever heard of Ken Burns? I don't know. And I'm like, I think he's fishing again. Don't say anything. Yeah, I'm saying the thing. Shut up, Scott.

Nobody asks you nothing. This is a conversation between me and I'm playing good cop over there. Right. I mean, how about, how about a, not a Burns, but how about a, uh, uh, Uh, yeah, Mr. Burns. How about just Mr. Burns from the Simpsons? I like your Mr. Burns. Yeah, you do that a pretty good bit.

Release the hounds. Sure, okay. All right. Uh, show me Mr. Burns. Show me Mr. Burns. Oh. No Mr. Burns on there. Okay.

So, all right, back to I-Corps and Scott. Yeah. How are you feeling in there? Two strikes. So, uh, you've got a. What do you think, Kevin? I want to go, uh, you're, you're killing it, though. So, who's the singer, um, I tell it?

The two singers are that nerdtacular, some and Mary. Oh, oh, oh, James, and Svet. Oh, my gosh, same-sex Mary. That's a great one. That is actually my favorite. The problem with that is it's perfect for anyone who knows who they are. And once you hear it, it's amazing. You always talk about it.

Yeah, no, that's a good one. Yeah, Brian, I think I'm with Kevin here. Let's go with James. James, all right. Show me James from same-sex Mary. Oh, come on. Amazingly, here's the amazing thing. Not even on the list.

Not even one person said, yeah. Not even one person, which surprises me. Boo. You guys don't, I know a lot of you've met him, but a lot of you haven't, and I understand why you don't know how genius that impression is, because you haven't met it. But if you've met James, you'd swear you're in the room with him when Brian does it. It's insane. It's easily your best impression.

It just happens to be, you know, a low level. Right. It only works, like, for a small. A certain crowd. Yeah. Although it's really killing in the city council in Silver City, Las Vegas, or Silver City, Nevada right now. I can get in there and go. Knocks him dead.

Bring the house down. Oh, you thought of one? Oh, crap. That's okay. Brian, are we out of strikes? Is that all that last strike? Yeah, you got it was your last strike. Oh, wow.

Brian needs to get 14 points to tie, 15 points to win, which you can do. So, yeah, if I just get like the bottom answer, right? That's all it would take. Bottom two answers. The bottom two answers will do it. Right, right, right. The bottom two answers on the board are. Any two of the answers on the right side of the board will do it.

Well, don't sweat it, Scott. I'm not getting any of them. Because all they can think of after y'all said, that musician, I started thinking, oh, Brian always reminds me of Billy Corrigan, and he does a pretty good one of those on film sack. It's the all minor film sack related. Billy Corgan from the smashing pumpkins? I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard you do a Billy Corrigan. I can't think of one.

Haven't you done a Billy Corrig? I could have swore when we did that movie that had the guy like Billy Corgan, you did one. Maybe I'm conflating. Maybe I do a good Billy Corrigan. I don't think I've ever done a Billy Corrigan in person. I'm going to

help you out here and say I think I've ever done a Billy Corrigan in person. Fine. Then I'm going to run back to my we're going to run back to Homer Simpson. I'm going to head back to the Simpsons. I feel like you, all you do are Simpsons impressions in my head.

Oh, this really was a tough one for you, man. I'm sorry. I'm guessing that's not on there. Let's see. All right. Show me any Simpsons character. Just any Simpsons character. Oh, that's a shame.

Okay, I want to guess one. Okay, look, I love all of I, if it's impressions, and I hear him a lot of times on film sack, but I don't know if he does any of them on the morning screen. I do them there. I do them there. I probably do him here, but, uh, well, the, The ones you do there are almost always film-specific, right? So it's always in context of the movie we're talking about.

And there are a couple of these that are film-specific. Well, one of the ones in this list. Can I guess one of these that we didn't get that just hit me? I'm guessing that Morrissey was on there because your Morrissey is very good. Yeah, Morrissey did not make the top. It was number 14 on the list. Oh, I would have put that in ten. All right, let's see what these other ones are for Pete's sake.

Put us out of our misery here. Number three. Third Eagle. Oh, gosh, dang it. Of course. Third Eagle of the apocalypse. Yeah, you don't know who that is, Brian. If you don't know who that is, yeah.

That's a deep cut, I guess. All right. Show me number seven. Australian accent. All of the Australian. That's what I should have done. I should just started saying random nationalities. Yeah, there you go.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. This one was so high on the list. It's like I didn't know any other way because so many people referenced it in different ways, but it's a Barry and Jill it's overwhelming that's overwhelming

I agree at Third Eagle so yeah but Brian But you didn't say Jill right That's all that impersonation That's not an impersonation That's the whole thing The entirety of that bit

Jill That's it just saying Jill But listen how good it Which sounds like the recording This is funny Because you're just parenting it But okay Yeah listen

I never stood a chance We do this almost every time Let's do this real quick So I'll go All right Brian you go Jill. Jill. Jill. Jill. Jill. Eventually, Jill. Eventually, it's no different. Eventually, it's the same sound coming out of everything. It's crazy. Anyway. All right. Number nine.

Oh, my God. Old man. Any general. That would have been like, I should have went more general. We have pretty good. I think Scott does the better old man impersonation than me. And there are a couple in this list that were obviously Scott impersonations that people didn't know. I think we couldn't remember. They get mixed up. Who does what? But the old man, when we do a back and forth old man route thing, it's a pretty good combo which bodes well for the future of the show, if I'm

honest. Anyway, number 10, what do we got? And number 10, oh, God, oh, you're one of them. It's Alan Rickman as Bill Clay. Now, that you would have done on film sack for sure. That definitely has. I'm going to say, I probably could have guessed that. That was actually one I've heard before. Yeah. And I've heard the

Jill thing before. Yeah. All right, so some of these I got to run through because they're hilarious are some of the answers Justin Robert Young number 11 people like my Hello friends Marty McFly

Jimmy Stewart Oh God of course Cliff Clavin Yeah Again the German accent Is way more Scott than it is me Mr. Howl comes up a lot Tony Soprano

But somebody put Mafia Popeye Because that pretty much is what it is That is hilarious Hey Kamala Oh you got a makes some got a cool Ernest Borgine

George Lucas that's a Scott Keanu Reeves Mike Myers I don't ever remember doing a Mike Myers impersonation but unless it's him doing his Scottish if it's Oh it's a short nightly chicken Oh that is the He puts in his 11 arms And spices and make you crave it for

Nightly Jackass Yeah we hear that one a lot That one's a The Queen Philip That's Scott Ray D Newman Vernon Herzog That's Scott.

Christopher Walken. That's you. Brian Brushwood, Casey Kaysam, Danny Glover, Doc Brown, the energy alien from Futurama. Take it back to the future. Gee. Jeff Goldblum, Jewish man, Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan. You do it Joe Rogan. Yeah. You talk about eating a bull penis and stuff. Somebody put Nick Ibit and the Fogel machine, which I think is they're either confusing our sons or they're just one. need to brag about their band.

They're a great band name. Weird. I don't know what that is. Obama, Randy Deluxe, Richard Dreyfus, Rick from Rick and Morty, Sean Connery, again, that's a Scott one. Saul Rosenberg, Tim Cook,

and Todd Cochran. Your Todd Cochran's pretty strong, I admit it. I never stood a chance. Here's Ibitt doing a Randy impression. It's actually Brian doing it here, listen to this. I've moved,

That woman. That sounds just like him. It's amazing, right? Sounds just like him. Yeah, I swear that was him. That's crazy. Well, here's the, the upshot is Kevin won, which is awesome. Check it out.

Here's this. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. I-Corps you've won. You walk away, arms full of fantastic prizes. These actually are excellent games. You probably even played one already as far as I know. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

Yeah, having you here was great. You're always welcome back. And we're glad to have you, which is the same thing I just said. So I'm being redundant. Well done, Kevin. Have a great one. We'll see you later. I keep calling him by his real name.

That's kind of doxing him. I shouldn't do that. Icor. Hey, Icore. I just know him from other stuff. Yeah, there are other Kevin's. They're all Kevin's to us. Evan?

Devin, Donneway. You got to do your Kevin. Did we give you enough hair time? Do you got hair time now? You're good? Oh, yeah. I've got good plenty of hair time now. You got hair time to burn?

Fantastic. You're not cutting that off, though, right? You're going to keep the length. I just, honestly. like I said, I go in, who knows? Who knows? You think she could talk to you into something wacky? Like, what would it take to get you to color it or, you know, I don't know, something? Oh, totally, man. Oh, all right. So my hair, it grows fast. So I never have any qualms about just whatever. It's like, you want to cut it all off? Sure. You want to cut it? Sure. You want to do something? Sure. Yeah. It'll come back. Okay. Well, that's what we want. Right, Ibitt? Yeah. Right. Yeah, it all comes back. Right.

of it. Yeah, right. Right, Billy Corgan. Thanks a lot. That's why he thought you did a Corrigan accent because Corrigan's bald. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're getting that? They're the same to me. Forgot to mention it. I'm sure he knows this, but I, Corey, need to email Brian for those codes. Oh, yeah, please do. Yeah, Coverville.com. Forgot to say it. You could get the haircut that we saw all over the place in Ireland, which I just put in the,

in our Discord chat. Oh, tell me it's like Tommy getting those guns. It's, uh, no, it's not. It's, but this is every, is this real? Everyone, yeah, every, every, every, every, uh, male from, uh, 12 to 29 has that, yep, shave sides, floppy on top. Yeah. Claire, it looks like they need to be, uh, can Claire explain? Like, what's the, what's the deal here?

Why, why this look? Is it just, uh, we don't know, but it was funny, like watching, you know, they're, you know, look at them. They're wearing, they're wearing, uh, the Nike's, the thrasher. They're really kicking it back to, you know, the 80s there. This was 80s, 80s, new wave looking. This is, all this, all that shit is back, man. The decade we all grew up in. You could tell me that those are the members of Depeche Mode in 1980, and I would totally believe it.

Yeah, you'd believe it. I love it. I love that our decade is so freaking dominant. I love it. Yeah. Let it be, man. Just let it tear the rest of the decade's a new butthole. I don't care.

It's great. The 80s rock. All right, Donoway, go get your damn hair cut. And, oh, check out the boob show we did on Monday. We had a great time. and it was a good show, and there was good stuff in there. So do check that out. Of course, Filmsack this weekend where we're watching, I forgot.

No, we're watching the Zorro, but it's the second one. I always forget, is it the legend? It's not the legend. Is that the first one? Which one is the second one? I don't think that's the, maybe that's the first one. Anyway, it's the second of the Zorro. It's the second of the Zorro movies with Antonio Banderas.

So check it out. The Sox of Zorro. Oh, okay, I found it. Mask of Zorro is 98. It's legend in 05. No, this is the legend of Zora is the one we're watching. Yeah, yeah, that's the O5. On Amazon Prime.

Yeah, the newer 105. And I can't believe that it's the same year as Batman begins. That's nuts. Think of that. Yeah. You know, we complain when they, when movie franchises don't put number two, number three, number four at the end of it. This is a perfect example. This is why.

Yeah. You're absolutely right. What's cool about this movie or what's supposed to be cool is it's supposed to be way better than the first one. But at the time, everyone hated it because it was so different. but now in retrospect it's like the better movie we'll see when we watch it it took bigger risk yeah it's got a bunch of cool actors in it got rufus sewell in there i love that dude uh that that guy uh michael emerson from lost remember him oh he's great he's in this cool yeah we got people man we're in all right done away uh happy hair day for you and uh happy hair day to you

stay out of trouble bye all right he's out of here all right brian and uh the grand tradition oh You know what? Before we dive into some news, which we do have time for today, I wanted to tell you about this P.F. Chang's guy. Oh, right. Yeah, because you took your mom out to lunch yesterday. You were going to go to P.F. Chang's. I did. It was lovely. I took my 81. 82 now? No, 80. She's still 81. She'll be 82. And, man, now I've effed up. It might be 82. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to her. It doesn't matter to me. Nice old lady. Anyway, she, we took her to lunch and me and Kim went out there. grabbed her and stole her away for a couple hours, went to P.F. Chang's, which I've only ever been to once. And I forget how, you know what, P.F. Changs is good. They make good food there. It is good.

Yeah. For, for, you know, it's not like Chinese food is hard to come by. Right. But P.F. Chang's for being a chain is way better than it has any right to be. Yeah. I agree with you there. And yesterday was no different. Everything that we got was good. And I got the pepper steak because I'm a fan. I like that combo of things a little fried rice on the side there very good anyway so we go there it's all normal you know mom's talking about her her what's going on and all that and she's doing great by the way the brain surgery earlier in the air was she basically doesn't even have a scar anymore she's just like normal it's crazy I don't have I don't know how she pulled it off but she did anyway so we're chilling we're eating we're hanging out and we get one of these servers

and you know the type okay or I think you do I'm wondering if there's maybe a name for this. It's nice enough guy, but very, very interested in making sure that he is your best friend you've ever had. Okay, yeah. And it's too much. Like, it's just over an edge. There's a certain edge you can get up to. And then you're like, man, that was an awesome server.

But then if you go over that edge, you're like, ugh, make sure the doors are locked. Yeah. Yeah, just something off about the guy. And the whole time. Here, let me give you my cell phone number. You guys can text me. If you need anything else after this meal, call me. Just let me know.

Yeah. Like I asked, what do you recommend? And he goes, well, I really like the Mongolian beef. And here's why. My wife is I. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And goes on for a day about his life and, you know, that there's a, oh, he was laying on a bill by accident. I learned all these things about this dude.

Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah. And all I'm doing is trying to find out if the Mongolian beef's worth it. And I end up getting the pepper steak anyway. So if they wore flare at. at P. F. Chang's, he'd have the most of it.

Yeah, you're right. Oh, he also was like, he was always like, I used to work in the kitchen, so I know every step like that. You know, like, he was just really... They couldn't stand me in there. They put me out here with the people. Yeah, and I didn't know, I'm not good at handling that situation because I was nice and everything. I just, I just, but I don't know. I can't go as far as he wants to go.

He wants to go, like, we're friends and let's exchange numbers and I'll see it in fortnight you know i can't i can't go that far so i'm bringing it i'm kind of like oh yeah okay uh anyway like i'm sure he's looked you up and he's listening to this very podcast god we probably should be really careful well we did mention we did mention the podcast thing something something came up somehow like oh my husband on the kim don't don't tell him anything about what we do because i'm worried he's going to show up outside a window with hot chili or something you know i don't want that well hot mongolian beef really but i will say I mean, honestly, quite truthfully, the food was really good yesterday.

Yeah. Surprisingly. Yeah, really, the only complaint about P.F. Chang's is that it's at least compared to your family-owned Chinese places, it's a little more expensive. It's a lot more. Well, let's face it, it's a lot more expensive. Yeah, it's a lot more. It's really good. Although lunch prices weren't too bad.

They were all like four bucks less than dinner. Oh, that wasn't. Oh, that's good. Yeah. So I like a place that'll give you a break at lunch for some reason. I don't even know why they feel like they have to do that, but I like it. I respect it. It was good.

You know, we took Tristan and Kay to P.F. Chang's a few months ago and said, oh, don't worry. Dinner's on me. We'll take care of this. Because, I mean, you know, as a dad, you do that regardless. Do it all the time, yeah. And then they proceed to both order the most expensive cocktails on the menu. Yeah. This is Nick.

We're like, hey, don't worry about it, buddy. I got this. And then he'll order the fattest $28 steak. What's the largest steak that you guys have? Not the one you have on the menu, but what do you have in the back? Yeah. What do you hold for VIPs? I'd like that, please.

What's market price on that rare Chilean seabass? That had to be like flash frozen and it's shipped here today. Exactly. Yeah, I don't like any of that. Oh, the king crab sounds nice. I'll have that. It was nice, though. It was nice.

My mom had to, you know, it was nice to be hanging around my mom. It was good. Yeah. It was nice. So go take your mom to dinner, everybody, or lunch or whatever you can do. Because they ain't going to be here forever. but she's right now she got enough energy to go another 10 years or more i don't know she seems she seems just fine good yeah and the dutch she could she told us the more full story about the

tumor tell me if this doesn't sound like me this will crack you up so uh she tried to explain it the doctor she just seen her neurosurgeon again the other day just as a follow-up and he's very happy how everything went uh his department calls her the miracle girl because none of But none of that procedure went the way it usually goes. It all went 100% best case scenario. And all the odds are against it. She's old. The tumor had been there for 15 years and growing.

It wrapped around most of her frontal lobe and was just like crammed in there. Oh, my God. Even people who have it successfully removed have incontinence the rest of their life. She doesn't have that. And they say part of the reason is when she got there and they opened it up, she goes, it just kind of fell out. That sounds like gross, but, you know. No, but just the fact like, you know,

there wasn't super invasive. It was like, yeah, that's what it is. The tumor was done. It was ready to come out. It's usually like all into the curves of your frontal load and like stuck in there and you've got to leave some of it. He says the average is you leave about 20% of the tumor because you just can't do it or else you're going to, you know, wreck their frontal loat.

So the way she described it. And I was like, well, that's interesting. She goes, I don't know how to really describe it, but he just kind of said, bip it. And I said, I go, I know. I know what it's like, Mom. It's Thanksgiving, and you go to the store and you buy some cranberry sauce in the can. And when you get home, it might come out in one, or a soup can, doesn't matter.

It might come out in one big thunk, you know, like a shape of a can. And then it might be like, oh, geez, got to shake it and get in there and dig it out with a spoon. She got lucky and was the big, the whole shape came out. Right, the can shaped blob of cranberry sauce just came right out. Yeah, I think that's how... That's actually, that is maybe one of your best analogies ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for the record, it was not, the tumor was not cancerous at all.

It was, like, strictly like a, I don't know, just a tumor, a not, what do you call that? A benign tumor. It was a benign, yeah. Was it head-shaped? Like, did it come out and retain its shape? No, but then I told her, then I used another example. I said, because I asked the same question, and I wanted to know, was it like those people that take, like, a Frankenstein plastic mold face? And then they grow a pumpkin in it.

So then by October before Halloween, you pull off the thing. And now there's a pumpkin in the shape of Frankenstein's face. Yeah, Disneyland, they do that with pumpkins, or with Mickey Mouse ears. Like, they make pumpkins with Mickey Mouse ears. Yeah. See, that's great. I think that's totally cool. And she says, no, I don't think it came out in the brain shape that you're thinking of.

But, yeah, it just kind of pulled away, which 100% never happens. And the doctor is like, whoa, I can't believe it. And she's made full recovery. and she's kept the weight off she lost from it and she's just doing great so I hope everyone's 81 year old mom is doing as well as mine appears to be doing so very good yeah she's still sharp as a sharp as a tack man she's and she laughs at my dumb joke and better better mood these days too mute better mood that was the other thing is the mood swing was palpable and we didn't know that that was why she was so kind of out of it before we thought oh early Alzheimer's or dementia or like

what's going on we don't know she just kind of stares at the wall and doesn't move and would rather lay in her bed and pee there than get up or you know this sort of stuff and she gets this thing out and she's like back to her like just she's just really up and talking and and smart and remembers everything and yeah it's crazy she says the only thing is she has once in a while she she'll do like a word this may just sound like normal for me but there'll be a word that she absolutely knows but just cannot bring to the front gosh yeah Who does that sound like. Yeah, weird. At least she has

an excuse. I don't really have one. Right. Really, it sounds like both of us, to be quite honest. It's probably most people at the end of the day, but I think there are people who are better at it than us. Let's put it down there. I need to get back to doing crossword puzzles, because that seemed to be helping, and

you know, I'd sit there and do a crossword, but do the New York Times crossword puzzle every night. And I've been playing that Marvel Future Revolution game at night. I need to get back to doing crossword puzzles because that actually benefits my brain. That's right. It's better for you.

Video games just eat it. They just eat our brain. They do. They eat our brains. If we've learned nothing else from society. Yeah. It's that they're brain eaters. That's what we are.

All right. Well, on that note, let's dive into some informational news content. It is time for the news and it's brought to you by. Brought you by Core. It's coming up tomorrow, Scott. Why should I even give a poo? Well, speaking of video games and how they rot your brain, we do a weekly show that really covers the entire breadth and width of video game space, news, consoles, PCs, everything in between, not just games we're playing, but some of the big issues floating around the industry right now. And if you want to hear all about that, like last week, we did a really great teardown of all the Sony stuff and got really into the weeds as to what was coming and when.

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A van, although this sounds like a headline for little van, but it's not. Right, yeah. Because it doesn't say a van. It says van. No, it just says van. Van smashes through Dutch toy store window to steal Lego and Pokemon toys, Maybe he would do. I don't know if you might do that, given the right circumstances.

But anyway, the shop window of an intra-toys toy store in the Dutch town of Vorberg. This is near the Hague, you know? Yeah, the Hague. The Hague is where they do the trials for people when they do war crimes. Right international crimes. Yeah, if you're like a war-crimer type, you're going to go to the Hague is what I've heard. Who doesn't love the Hague? Everyone loves the Hague.

Everyone loves the Hague. It says, let's see. This was, it was rammed with a white van just after 9.30 p.m. on Friday night, and according to the store manager, the perpetrators were likely targeting Lego and Pokemon items. Wow. Quote, part of the facade is broken, says the manager. Fortunately, we are prepared for this kind of attack, and we have laminated glass in the front, so they were not able to take much. What does that mean like it would be? So I'm guessing they had a store window that wasn't just an opening to the store.

Like, it was a window you can load stuff into, although, how do you not get through the second window into the store? I don't know. That's weird. Yeah, I mean, the way that they describe it, it sounds like a separate window with the Pokemon and Lego stuff in it. Yeah. It says Lego and Pokemon toys are in great demand right now, which they, I mean, Pokemon, always. A ram raid on a toy store might seem unlikely, but some. sums involved are high.

The Lego Masters program has made Lego very popular, and Pokemon is always worth a lot of money, says the store manager. The number of Lego-related thefts is on the rise. Both The Guardian and NPR recently written about increases in Lego crime, or Lego, I guess. Both in Europe and beyond. A limited edition set soon become collector's items

and easily fetch four figures or even five-figure sums depending on the set. Yeah, it's crazy. Do you have anything that somebody could come stealing They'd be like, oh, I got the best Lego thing ever. I got that massive helic carrier Lego set. But I imagine the uncompleted Lego boxes are way more expensive. To resell those, way more expensive than the completed sets, than the built stuff.

I would assume so, yeah, like comics. They want a mint condition in the box. If somebody tries to steal this helic carrier, it's probably going to break halfway through the house. Oh, yeah. Right? Yeah, just getting it through the hallway. Kling, cling, cling. He was like, oh, dang it, I dropped four quen jets.

Oh, and where's Hawkeye? Yeah, you step on it. Hawkeye, not Hawkeye. Hawkeye, not Hawkeye, like Hawkeye? Oh, you know what I'm surprising come up in your impressions thing was the running scared? Yeah, Billy Crystal. Maybe that's what Brian Dewey was thinking when he said Billy Corrigan was my Billy Crystal. Oh, maybe.

He got his billies mixed up. I mean, he did big smashing pumpkins, but. Billy Corgan. Don't cross your billies, I always say. All right. Here's a story I like the most, I think, of today. Taco Bell. You're familiar, Taco Bell.

I'm familiar. I haven't had them since I've been back from Ireland, but I'm kind of craving. I have the crave. You have the crave? Go south of the border. I want to make a run for the border. There you go. I couldn't remember them.

Yo-Chiato Taco Bell. Take your weird dog with us. circle of that side. Did you, did you see a Taco Bell there? They don't probably have this. No. Okay. No, uh, let's see.

Like American fast food places, McDonald's some, but really the one that surprised me and we saw them everywhere were KFCs. Oh, really? Kentucky fried chicken huge in Ireland for some reason. Yeah, why? Claire, why? But they've also got something called Abra Cababra, I think is what it's called. Like, it's a kebab shop.

um abracababra maybe claire claire can can confirm this but it's uh well you know it's obvious it's a kebab shop that um is like fast food kebabs yeah that makes sense we'll sound good we we didn't go to any of those places and well we take that back obviously we went to mcdonald's i told that story yesterday but right um uh didn't try any local fast food places we were too busy looking for pubs and getting fish and chips uh kFC's popularity overseas will ever cease to amaze me in Asia in China when I was there they were everywhere and the last thing I wanted was KFC over there like maybe it was good there maybe it's maybe it's amazing in Asia I don't know well um I think the fact is that you know locals locals don't care

about going and getting a cottage pie or or a box D or something like that um so they'll go to McDonald's they'll go to KFC as locals and just say yeah it's something quick and easy So I'm looking at right now, abracababra. Shut up, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, I'll give you a link. That's fine. It's funny because they're, I'll put a link in the chat room and then give it one in our Discord.

But their top item right there. Oh, they have a spice box. Look at that. What? What is the spice box? I don't know if that is. Oh, that, so we talked about it on this show, maybe not. But it's a Asian street food.

It's Ireland. Ireland's take on Asian street food or there's, there's a better way to describe it, but it's chips and deep fried chicken and vegetables, sauteed vegetables in a, like a Asian food container. And it's one of the slider images that comes up and it's got some great spices and it's so good. And you can only get in Ireland. I mean, it's like, well, as far as I know, you can only get in Ireland. that's the only place we've ever seen spice box or a spice bag oh this place looks good it does look good i would go to abracababra in america if they had one in a heartbeat even the burgers look good oh man okay well yeah it's funny it doesn't i don't even know why like i've

seen 15 things show up in their menu and none of them are kebabs so yeah they've and they write it there's a whole bunch of text about kebabs but no like listening or big blowout images of kebabs. Burgers are huge. The magic bites are huge. Yeah. Weird. All right. Open one up in America. Maybe kebabs. They're like the KFC equivalent to, oh, you just want a bucket of chicken original recipe. It's like that. It's like they're basic, you know. Well, anyway, there's that. Anyway, the whole point of Taco Bell. Oh, yeah. Taco Bell. This story here. They want you to send back your used sauce packets. Not your ones that you haven't used yet because there's always those. This has to be a joke. It's got to be a joke. It's got to be a joke.

This is real. They want to refill these. So Taco Bell has a plan, they say, in place to recycle some of its 8 billion pounds of used sauce packets that go into the U.S. landfills over year. 8 billion pounds. I don't know if that is in tons. It's the fact that they give you 20 sauce packets when you go through the drive-thru and you only use one. Yeah, I agree. So that's what the thing.

The filled ones are going to landfills. Maybe they should just only give you, I don't know, a couple. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, if you've got three tacos, give me three packets. Don't go crazy. Give me 100. Yeah. The fast food chain is rolling out a nationwide pilot program for its customers to send used sauce packets through the mail.

The program was initially announced as a trial in April and created with a recycling company, TerraCycle, to, quote, divert as many used sauce packets as possible away from landfills and reuse them. Here's how it works. You sign up for a TerraCycle account. You collect empty sauce packets in a recyclable container. print a free shipping label from TerraCycle's website and ship the box back via UPS. Taco Bell will display QR codes and other signage in various parts of the restaurant to promote the program and encourage it rather than dropping off the used sauce packets at a restaurant or using the mail because the majority of transactions are taking place at its drive-through and not in the out of, you know,

they're not in the restaurant when this stuff happens. I'd also discover that there was a preferred way for customers during this pilot program. Or no. Oh, that's their preferred ways to mail it back, minimizing the transportation footprint and they're just shipping their box back. But I'm still with you, but most are full, though, right? What's that? Most of the packets are full. I don't get how the, it's going to be that making.

Yeah, so here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to sign up for this. And when they send me 20, or when I'm sorry, when I go through the drive-thru and they give me 20 packs of hot sauce, I'm going to open them, squeeze them into a Tupperware and send all the, and then I've got, and then I've got salsa. Yeah, yeah. Soss I could use to, I don't know, take the paint off my car if I need to or. You got some rusty spark plugs?

Melt my 3D printer resin back down to. Sure. Sure, whatever industrial home use you might need, you'll have a whole, you'll have a whole Tupperware thing. Yeah, and then I want to know what do they do after they send you. They're going to, I'm hoping that what they're going to do is shred them. and melt them down, because I think they're, they're foil, aren't they? They're like a plastic, plasticized foil or something?

Yeah, right, aren't they? Hold on, I'm looking here. I just made up a thing called plasticized foil. Plasticized foil. Plasticized foil. I think they are just full plastic. They're just rubber. But they bend and they keep their shape when you bend them.

So there are just plastic. Plast oil. Plast oil. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying because it's not a stiff plastic. It's different. It's more like a bag, a baggie. But even those have more retention of there's, I don't know.

But you know, that's totally fine. I will, you know, it's free. What they need to do is offer you some sort of reason other than, I love the environment, to do this, right? Like, you know, give us a free Belgronde something or a Taco del Ariana or something. Taco del Ariana Save your tears for another day You know that version of that song that she's on Because there's two versions

There's just the weekend by himself And then the one with him and her That one with him and her is so much superior It's really good I actually like that song You know what else I really got hooked on? Music man Brian Yeah who did you get hooked on

Olivia Rodrigo Tell me it's Olivia Rodriguez No I kind of can't get around to her I don't know what my deal is with her Oh you need to get around to her She's great All of her songs are about, you know, this is no surprise

because every pop song is about this, but the guy that got away, right, and is with somebody else. It was like every, all of her big hits are about, oh, I got a driver's license, but now you're with someone else. And then another song is, oh, good for you. You got somebody else. Good for you. And deja vu, are you doing all the same things with her that you did with me?

Like her big three songs are all about some guy that just broke her heart. Wow. I'll get around to her. but the guy the dude i'd listen to or this song i can't stop playing and i'm sure i'm going to be sick of it in short time all right i know that soon it's about to fall off hard but i can't stop listening to that stay song oh the beber i think we talked about yesterday kid kid kid la roy is the main kid is the main dude and he's kind of your he's another white uh post maloney kind of type dude like a little bit of singing a little bit of hip hop a little bit of mixed a little mumble rap in there

so there's that guy and then Bieber comes in and sings parts of it and uh i really like that song and i like it unapologetically until i don't okay that's what you know there is nothing wrong with that there life should be more full of pleasures that aren't guilty pleasures just it's a pleasure yeah it's a pleasure it's a pleasure yeah a pleasure as my dad would say all right Oh, here we go. Cat and Kipper says shipments in the Taco Bell sauce packet recycling program can be any weight to earn points, and 100 points per pound will be awarded, allocated towards a variety of charitable gifts to organizations like the Taco Bell Foundation or redeemed his payment of 1 cent per, probably per order. He's copying and pasting.

Okay. So that means, could you accumulate enough of this to, like, buy stuff at Taco Bell? Like, you'd buy more tacos? Well, it sounds like it's, you know, they'll give charity. They'll make a donation towards the Taco Bell Foundation, which really helps ingredients that aren't the main seven. Yeah. You know, it helps those ingredients that aren't part of the CrunchRap Supreme. Get some notoriety and some.

It's about time they got their time on the stage. That's right. That's right. All right. I'm signing up. I'm going to sign up today. I'm signing up for this Taco Bell thing. And I'm going to make note and take folks.

photos on Instagram, on the Insta, whenever I ship off a bunch of... Well, like we always say, everything is content, so let's make some content out of this. This is great. Exactly. Yeah, you keep us, keep us informed. I might slip a Burger King ketchup packet in there, you'll see what happens. See if it throws off the whole balance of the force. Or stick in one of those El Scorch, Del Taco packets.

That's right. Oh, my God, even better at the competitor, yes. Yeah, competitor del scorcho in there. I think I'm going to Taco Bell. today, Scott. I think it's going to happen. It does sound good, right? Yeah. Why? All right. We'll take our leave for a moment and play a song.

But before we do, I'd like to tell you that Tom will be here after this. So, Nicole, oh, and one of us forgot to record their damn recommendal clip. That's okay. I'll bet it was you. I'll bet it was me. I usually remember that the night before, but I didn't do it. Well, anyway, I still have one to recommend.

That'll all come up after this break. But first, the break is itself has to happen. We need to know what song we're playing. Yeah, we're going to Chicago for some indie punk from Kalimasi. It's a band called Cali Masi, K-A-L-I-M-A-S-I. This is their sophomore LP called Lafs. It came out this year, and a lot of places are already saying that this is one of the best releases of 2021 in the punk music field.

Stereo gum, the punk site, upset magazine, Brooklyn Vegan, all digging Kalimasi and the song. to it. This is the first song, the first single from the release, Laf's, which is in brackets. Oh, I don't know when they do that. Here is Kalimasi and Trophy Deer. Hey man,

I think you can hold my jacket. I think I want to dance to Find me before you go Don't want to ride home alone I was a new kid in a rich town Not a lot of friends around But I found The only other one in the neighborhood

A bottle's in breakable Some people change When we won't be Everything that we could be The pack that we made It's like cement shoes And you're good in our youth Water's out

our next now we gotta get out don't want to be a souvenir I got my own way to go and I hope I see you there when the smoke clears In circles, inside our old haunts, and outside around. I saw how much it lit you up to beat me down, beat me down, beat me down, beat me down. So fly me like a fighter kite. I wish you cut my light and make it right. But I'm the crutch, and I'm the sprain. It's a complex duality.

Poisoning in the words you use, I grew up excluded your press on the bruise. Please I feel within me And it's taking me to places And I never believe But I won't be Everything that I could be And I won't be Everything that I should

Don't want to be a souvenir Got my own way to go I hope I see you there I don't want to be a trophy dear Let come my rain in everything I don't want to be a souvenir Hey, you guys. What's going on? You know, it's fall. It's fall. Do you feel it? We could all use a stiff breeze. This episode's brought to you by Blue Chew. Guys, listen, confidence can take you pretty far in life. I can help you in the bedroom as well, especially when it comes to stepping up to the plate.

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And we thank Bluechew for sponsoring today's episode. You know, the funniest part of doing an office conga line, When you look back and realize you're doing it alone and you're not in an office, you're in a psychiatric hospital. We pulled one off. And we're back. That song again, Brian. That song again is Trophy Deer by the band Kali Masi from Chicago, indie punk outfit from Chicago, from Chaitown.

Utterly fantastic to hear. Yeah. Sit back and relax, everyone, because this is happening. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt. He hosts the Daily Tech News show every freaking day. Well, with very few. exceptions. And he's here today to talk about

what's going on in the tech world. Tom Merritt, what's going on in post-Apple presentation day? Yeah, do you want to talk about the phones? I mean, we could. I hear the camera lenses are now diagonal on the back instead of in a vertical orientation. That was one of those things that I

saw, some very respected tech journalists that I know and love mentioning as if it were significant. Oh, there's that diagonal camera lens. I feel like it's it's my problem. I'm missing something. Right, yeah.

It's so that you can look at it and say, oh, they must have the new iPhone 13. Yeah, it's a design thing. And I think it's a design thing that design nerds are into, and I'm just not enough of a design nerd for it to capture me. But the camera and the video and photography capabilities in the iPhone Pro 13, iPhone 13 pro, are impressive. Uh, this, this is a very incremental update. It's a decent update. Uh, you know, there's,

Apple makes great processors. Everything's getting new processors. They're going to be faster. You're going to have significantly better battery life, uh, on this stuff. Uh, but there's not the whizbang like, wow, you have to get it because it has this feature, um, which I think is fine. Uh, you know, my electric toothbrush just went out. And it wasn't like I was agonizing that it went out off cycle because the new electric toothbrush is going to, um, you know, my electric toothbrush is going to be out soon. I just went and bought whatever's available, you know, in the store. So I think we're getting there with phones where you can use your phone, whether it's Apple or Samsung or anything else, you can use your phone until you're tired of it, you know, until it doesn't work

for you anymore, then find out what's available and they will have continually improved them in the meantime. That's what's going on here. Yeah. This isn't a rush out and get the new iPhone because it's got a new thing. This is, hey, if you're in the market for a new phone, they've added some really cool stuff. Yeah, this is the, we are, I think, maybe we've already been entering this phase for a while, but it does feel like we're finally maybe there, but we're in that phase now, the PCs found themselves in eventually, which was, you don't have to look for the gigantic jump that was this year versus last year anymore. You're just like, how long's your thing last? No, I got seven years out of this PC, time for me to check out a new one, and that's kind of

where we're at. And I think I'm good with that. I think that feels right. Yeah, I used to go every 18 months. Yeah. I would need a new, I would need a new PC. and this was back when I had no money like in the 90s. I'd be like oh man I need to scrape together money for a new PC somehow and yeah I've had my alienware forever

I don't even remember when I got it honestly it's still a workhorse it works great laptops are kind of getting there too for me and phones man I think I think phones are a commodity at this point if you're like really into foldables

or stuff and you're an early adopter yeah, there's some interesting things from Samsung with the Galaxy Fold, but that's really an early adopter thing. Like, it's not quite ready for prime time. And I think it might get there, but it's not there yet. Yeah, that foldable thing has got a lot of questions around it, but mostly it's just like, oh, yeah, that could be the future. And now we've got to wait and see if it sort of is.

And you're always going to have your day oners, right? You're always going to have those people that are like, I ought to get order it now. But when I, for the first time and a long time, I saw the new phone yesterday and went, actually, I think the 12 is close enough right now. that's really close to what my phone is. Like, yes, that camera and those

improvements are amazing. The battery life is tempting. But I have a current gen pro, and I'm very happy with it. And honestly, the diagonal camera placement is about the only physical difference I can see between the two. So I'm kind of okay.

Design-wise, it's made for people who have the 11 or the 9. Now, if you are, and this is a niche, I don't think this applies to most people, but if you are someone who really wants or needs to shoot video, take photography with your phone, right? You don't want to carry around a lot of equipment. You don't want to have special purpose, red cameras or DSLRs, but you do want to have pro quality functionality from the phone.

The iPhone 13 Pro can deliver that. They've got some great features in there, including the ability to shoot in ProRes, which a lot of kind of, kind of, run and gun folks need to do if they're shooting commercials or certain TV and film situations, which people are. People are using phones now for shooting professional video, especially commercial video, because it's not that you can't do better with a camera. You can. It's more convenient. Yeah. Yeah. Your camera can't make calls and send you alerts about your calendar. You know, So it's having it all in one device. And the camera is quite impressive in the pro.

The AI can do what's called rack focus automatically when you're doing video. So the thing they demonstrated in the announcement was, you know, you could be focused on me and then someone walks into frame and the focus shifts to them. It could just do that automatically. And on the iPhone, in fact, it can do that on the iPhone 13. on the iPhone 13 Pro, you can even edit that sort of thing in post because it's saving in ProRes. So it's got some capability that is significant for people out there. It's just not that Whizbang consumer related thing.

Yeah. I also like the macro stuff you can do. Oh, yeah, the two centimeter. That actually convinced that. That was one of the things that Eileen convinced Eileen. She's got a two-year-old iPhone. She's like, I'm getting the 13. I'm like, okay, I'm curious why.

She's like camera, especially macro. She's like, I like to take close-up stuff, and she's way more into photography than I am, so that makes sense. Yeah, it's cool. I talk to somebody who is in L.A. right now is there where you are in L.A., and he's shooting an entire film on his current Gen Pro. And he says they're working in the editing bay. They can't tell the difference between this and footage from like a red camera or something. They're just getting everything they need. And that really blows things open for a whole lot of.

creatives who want to just do stuff and do it more professionally without investing in all the rigs and everything. And with the A15 Bionic, it's got a five-core GPU on the pro. You supposedly are going to be able to do editing on the phone too. Yeah. So you could do end-to-end 4K ProRes files. Yeah, UHD. All that, yeah. These words may mean nothing to many folks out there, but if they do mean something, it's like, oh, that's tempting. That's tempting to want to do. It's significant. And I'm fine with this being the point of competition that we're at right now. Like, it feels like the big, everything else is a given, like more RAM, more storage, more capability in terms of processor speed and that sort of stuff.

That makes sense. That's always going to be an incremental upgrade. So where the competition may ultimately be its most fierce is how, what kind of pictures does this take? What kind of video is this take? Is this a kind of tool I could use for way more than just, I'm checking my texts and, you know, taking a picture of my food at lunch and putting. on Instagram playing a little a little it's only lawn mowing or whatever it's called yeah yeah stupid lawnmower

game yeah honestly these these uh these phones especially the pros i i'm giving short shift to the the 13 and the 13 mini because those are definitely like oh i just need a phone you know that makes calls and plays games and it's pretty cool and and that doesn't have the 120 hertz refresh rate improvement it has the better chip they're great phones they're decent phones right uh the determinative factor of whether you want one or not is probably whether you prefer iOS over Android because they're just as good or better Android phones out there in comparison, depending on what you're looking for. The pro is the one that is, I think, distinguishable, but not necessarily for the average consumer. It's more than just like, I need to make calls and check my email,

for sure. Yeah, also not a cheap phone, that phone. No, no, no, no. It's, what are the prices? I think it's $9.99 for the pro and then $1,100 for the max. And that's, that's the base model. In fact, you only get pro res at $1080P if you get the base model. So, yeah, it starts to get pricey if you need that bigger storage, which if you're going to do end-to-end editing type of stuff, you probably want that extra storage. But you can't go up to a terabyte now. Sure, sure. Well, that's true. Yeah, the storage is much more. And they needed to be for... They need it for the, yeah. If you're going to be doing tons of 4K. Yeah, you better do it. A U.HD adds a lot of memory, too, or a lot of storage. I didn't realize how much

that adds. I had a lot of like visual data that ends up being like if you do a UHD photo, I did a little test, one with it and one without it. And it was like eight megabytes more. And this is just a normal photo still photo, but eight megabytes more for U.S.D than it took for non-UHD. And you get up to 4K and you're doing video. Every frame is UHD. You're adding a lot of storage to every file you make. So anyway,

that's a bunch of nerdy stuff. Hopefully everyone else enjoyed it. it felt like kind of a low-key event. The new minnie's fine. Yeah, iPad Mini looks great if you don't, if you, if you're in the market for a smaller tablet, that looks, it adds all the great things that the regular iPads have. Yeah, faster. Yeah, I mean, I like the take I saw several people saying like, just let it make calls. Yeah.

I want an 8.3-inch phone, please. That's essentially what the iPad Mini could be. And yeah, I guess if you use WhatsApp or Signal or. Skype or something to make calls, then it could work that way for you. I guess you're already doing that, yeah. What I want them to do, it's never going to happen. Well, maybe I shouldn't say never. I want a 24-inch iPad Pro that is not portable in any way.

It's just a big, huge, giant flat tablet. I want that real bad. But that's only artists, everybody who's drawn, you know what, you know why I want it. Everyone else is like, why would you ever want that? But I'm telling you, I would die. I would love it. Yeah, it's the, whatever the Microsoft thing that came up, came up with. a couple of years back

that display table. Yeah. Yeah, with the puck. Surface Studio. I wish the Surface Studio would get an update. Isn't there a surface event coming up?

Or, that already happened? There is. There is. Let me see if I can put my fingers on the date. I think it's like the 24. Yeah. That thing had some real downsides,

but conceptually, I was in love with it when I saw it. And they need some power. They need some GPU. They need some things to make it worth it. But that was a cool, concept, and I hope they keep doing it. I don't know how well it sold is the problem. Probably not well. I don't know. I have no idea. It's Microsoft. They probably sold millions, but to them,

that's not enough. I don't know. Right. Well, all right, then. This and more happening later on the Daily Tech News show. Yesterday, I know you guys did the brunt of the Apple stuff, because that's the day it happened, but we'll see what it brings today. It'll be loads of fun, and I'll be there. So check it out, 2.30 Mountain Time, if you catch such things live. Tom, anything else you'd like to mention before we go today. yeah as we we headed the holiday season uh the the tech news is ramping up uh and and one of the things that i don't know if people don't listen to daily tech news show realized is it's cumulative it uh the people who tell me like i i really really benefit from the show say it's because they don't realize how much more they know about technology until they're in the room with somebody else and

they're like oh yeah no i heard about this a while ago or yeah like oh let me explain how that works and they're like, oh, right, I got that from DTNS. So now is the time to get in on that. And we're looking for patrons. If you are interested in getting not only DTNS, but DTNS ad free, a bonus show where we look at old technology news from our own lineups from five years ago. Scott is on an editor's desk for me with thoughts and opinions about how the technology world works. That's all available, patreon.com slash DTNS. That sounds great.

Tom Merritt, everybody. And don't forget, Ace Detect on Twitter, he's a public-facing man. We'll see you later. Bye. He is. He's also the one responsible for me making sure to order Murphy's Irish stout when I was in Cork and not Guinness. Oh, look at that, American. He helped me out. He helped me not look like a fool. Yeah. Well, nobody wants to look like a fool. You damned fool. All right. We're going to call Nicole. She does not show online, but that doesn't mean. She rarely does. Yeah.

Let's see if I can just text her real fast and say. Sure. Hey, you on. Oh, I think I see her. Oh, there we go. Oh, she's coming in. Oh, oh, I see Nicole, everybody. Do you?

I do. Hey, it's Nicole. I got to play your thing. Why am I slow to find that? Where is it? There it is. Oh, Nicole. My sweet nickel.

Hey, look who it is. Nicole's bag. us for recommendals where we talk about stuff we saw on streaming services and then recommend them to you. Nicole, welcome back. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Yeah. It's good to have you. Yeah. I mean, what is a Tuesday without this? I say, or Wednesday. What is a Wednesday without this? I can't even get my day straight. Right. Right. Hey, it's good. I thought there was going to be a clip that you played like of me doing like cacacacacacacac. Oh, no, I always have that handy. Good if you. I have a lot of Nicoleisms. Let's see. I have a whole, oh man, I have a

lot. Do you want to hear just a couple? Let's hear a couple. Here's one that's just called Nicole's laugh. All right, there's that. Here's Nicole. Let's see. Oh, Mark. Mark, where are you? That's not you, but that's someone asking for Mark. I never heard that one. Yeah, here's a good one.

He is filming turds. Yeah, he's filming turds. Don't remember what that was about, but there it is. Yeah, here's another one. It looks like the trailer for bio-shit. Bio shit, yeah Bioshit Anyway

Nicole is some of my favorite Well anyway I'm doing this Bioshock I do too There's a new something coming from those guys What is it? Bio no

No I don't remember now There's something coming from those guys though There's all kinds of excitement Out of the Bioshock people I forgot what it Are you playing Deathloop? No Brian is I am and I'm digging it

Yeah You like that Brian I have to find a PS5 now. I had a PS5 and I gave it to Patrick. You gave a PlayStation 5 to Patrick, Bejohn, France? He bought it, but you gave him the, you like got one in your shopping cart and then gave him the link to it. I had one here.

Yeah. And there wasn't, I was still playing Fallout 76. It was kind of collecting dust, sure. There was no games. I'm like, yeah, and Patrick was looking for, for one. So I'm like, yeah, I'll sell to you and ship it to you. Oh, no. Nice. That was a very nice friend thing for you to do.

It's not a, I was I was going to say, oh, it's also on PC. So if you got it, if you really want to play, you can get it there. But if you want to be on your butt on the couch, yeah, I don't find a PlayStation 5 right now. Or wait six months and get it on an Xbox. All right, anyway, so here's the deal. Just find me a PS5. Yeah, I'm sure it's easy. No problem.

Easy now. Oh, yeah. Chips are plentiful. Oh, yeah, everywhere. Chips are grown on trees now. Yeah, they're just fall. Walmart can't. no more shelf space go buy them exactly right well i can't get rid of them i went into target yesterday and it said uh we will not be selling PS5s like it's like the whole thing they're doing with

Pokemon cards like really because it's like uh causes too much yeah strife and yep wow yeah well there you have Pokemon cars PS5s and baseball cards geez we are also not selling toilet paper just because no more too much fighting Pokemon and Toilet paper, both highly sought after items. Not in the same way. Anyway. Well, let's do this. We got recommendals to do, and it'll be fun because we haven't done them in a week.

Or no, more than that, because you were gone. Brian was gone. Yeah. Three weeks. Three weeks. Holy crap. So we'll start with Brian. Chlips here.

Do you have a setup for this or anything? I got to make up for some last time. Both of my recommendals are documentary serieses. Whoa. Right? It's a series. I hope it's not one of mine I have a documentary series

to record. Do you really? Is it on Netflix? No. Okay, then you're safe. Both of mine are on Netflix. Mine's on Amazon Prime. Okay, good. Dodge that bullet. Let's play number one here. She was a beautiful French lady that came off season and she doesn't come anymore. The murder has a extracted scrutiny from France.

I think the justice will be done. It's become a modern Irish murder mystery. The government has set up a special inquiry. Whyn't she walked out of court refusing to answer questions? What's important now is the truth. You would not be appropriate for the government's comments. We have made mistakes. All of this has implications for all of us.

It was the case that goes to the heart of our democracy. This is a murder, which unless solved won't be forgotten. murder. The only reason I'm involved is because I was the last person spoke to him, except whoever saw it after me. I have no idea. No surprise, it's an Irish murder documentary. Tina and I watched this before the trip. It had just come out like it was brand new.

This is called Sophie, a murder in West Cork. And it is a docu-series that came out about this woman named Sophie Tuscand-Douple. Planteer, who is a producer who would come to Cork, had a little house on the coast where she could watch the lighthouse turn around, and she was murdered. And there was a huge investigation and several trials, and I won't tell you what came about from all that stuff, but it was absolutely fascinating. And it's one of those documentaries that does a great job. sets things up. It does interviews

with all the people who could have been involved or who were questionable and things like that. And then it gives you a resolution at the end. And it's excellent. It's three episodes, three one hour episodes

on Netflix. I like those ones that are short series. They don't overstay. They're welcome. Those are good. Yep. And it was great. And it's funny because we saw this a couple months before the trip and we forgot when we were in court to go to like some of the places that we saw in the documentary that's like,

oh, that's like a nice little center of town area that we might want to check out where the murderer might be hanging out. Did they ever, well, I guess that spoils the documentary. Yeah, spoils it if I tell you whether or not the crime was solved. This is interesting because I, it's not my recommendal today,

but I watched, probably a future one maybe, but I watched a documentary that was set in, um oh crap was it in oh it was also ireland was it okay and it was also a it was a serial killer guy and i don't remember the name of it now and i gotta go back and like remind myself but uh was it was it may have been the belfast one claire it was it was so when you first started playing this or when i started playing i'm like did brian watch the thing i watch but right murders in belfast yeah it was a really interesting one as well but yeah hey

hey ireland you got some cool murders going that's pretty great so yeah we did realize it was such a dangerous place to go. Yeah. Well done. Have you seen this meme that I just put in the chat? Discord. This is what I think about when yeah. Yeah, that kind of is true. Yeah. Netflix time for these days are like five hour long episodes.

Yeah, exactly. And then the end, we don't know. Yeah, we don't know who did it. But thanks for sitting here for 12 hours and not knowing with us. All right, Brian, I'll play your second one here. Any set up for this? Same deal. This is a longer series. I think it's eight or ten episodes and fantastic stuff. All right, here it is. One day, this vinyl comes and we started to listen to it.

And after the first 20 seconds, we heard, this is the rhythm we want. This producer is exactly the one we need for the band. Who is this guy? Gave him the tape and asked him, can we give it to? the producer, his name, was Dennis Pop. Well, my name is Dennis Pop. This is a true story, and this is how faith, luck, timing, everything comes in together. I got a cassette sent to my house saying,

please listen to our demos and call us, Base or Base. I took the tape and I put it in my car stereo and it got stuck. So I kept hearing it. Every time I drove in that car, I kept hearing the same song. So he had to listen to our demo tape every day going from and to the studio, listen to our songs. No idea, but this sounds intriguing. This is a series on Netflix called This Is Pop. It's eight one-hour episodes, each one focusing on a different aspect of pop music.

That is the Stockholm Syndrome episode, which talks about how Sweden is responsible for so many pop songs. that go beyond Aba and Ruckset and Ace of Bass. Halmax Martin is this genius producer, writer who's worked with Childish Gambino. That song, This Is America,

was co-written by him. Some Backstreet Boys stuff, some Insink stuff, some Britney Spears stuff. There's just all of this amazing Swedish music. And they have this thing, I can't remember the name of it. It's like Yeager, not Yeager.

Not Yeager. Meister. I can't remember. It's like some term that doesn't really have a perfect English translation. Chuck Yeager. But it's Chuck Yeager, exactly. But it's the fact that Swedish, why is my watch yelling at me? That Swedish people don't want to brag about their own successes.

They want to sit back and celebrate everybody else's successes. And I'm guessing Wendy probably knows this term. But it's very prevalent in this. and it's like, oh, well, this is why you never hear about the popularity of Swedish music, because they don't want to get up and brag about it. But that's just one of the episodes. The other episodes, like they have one about the boys' two men affect the how it changed vocal group music in the 90s and beyond. There's an episode that talks about the Brill Building, which was this New York building that had so many hit songs written in it.

um carol king and jerry goffin worked there so stuffed by the shangrelas and the sherels and neal sadaca and all of these other um other bands and artists came from there uh one about festivals and um their importance in in music an episode all about autotune that interviews t pain and i have a big respect for t pain after watching that episode yeah i'll bet um uh oh and then my favorite episode, which will surprise nobody, an episode on Britpop that focuses on the battle between Blur and Oasis in the 90s, where it was like, you know, words were said. Things were said to each other. Wow.

And it wasn't just woo-hoo. That's not all they said. That's not all they said. But they talked about that specific song and what it, what the, um, uh, the point of it was, like what the, the reason for that. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting. So, yeah, these, you know, I started with the episodes I wanted.

that was most interested in, Autotune, Brit Pop, Stockholm Syndrome. And then I was like, these are all fantastic. And I watched the one about country music and the one about boys' two men. And the whole series is fascinating. That's great. That's very cool. And this is Netflix, you said? That's also Netflix.

Yeah, this is pop, eight one-hour episodes. And each one has a different narrator. Orville Peck does the one about country music and pop. And he is interesting in and of himself. It's just amazing to see Orville Pack. Yeah, I like that guy. There's a series on, so the series on HBO called, what's it called?

It's the one where the first one was about Woodstock and then they got a whole, Woodstock 99, that is. And then they got a whole other bunch of stuff coming. And it's a whole, it's another one of these kind of music series. It's just interesting to see a couple of these take off like this and have a, I don't know, just suddenly we got music based documentary series coming out of I love it.

I love music box, I think, is the one. Music box. Yep, music box. So yeah, more of those. And I still need to see that Woodstock 99 documentary. But the festival's episode of This is Pop talks about Woodstock and how it was just this, hey, commercial, let's make some money off of Woodstock. And then everything got set on fire, both figuratively and literally. Yeah, that 99, that doc on 99, it was insane. I recommended it here a few weeks ago. That thing is nuts. You got to watch it. You'll hate Fred Durst more than you have. ever did. Awesome. All right. Those sound great.

I don't hate Fred Durst. You should. You will after you watch that. Go watch it and then you will. Watch that. It's not about his music. It's not about any of that. It's about...

Watch mine and you'll love T. Payne and then watch his and you'll hate Fred Durst. Yeah. You're going to, you will not... I promise you, Nicole, and you see that documentary. I am 1,000% sure you will turn on Fred Durst. Absolutely. Did you see that T. Payne was one of the winners of the mass singer. Oh, was he really? I didn't know that. Yep. Like, was he, you mean he lasted like one of the seasons? Okay. He, he, I think he was in the first season. Or maybe it was the second season. I think it was the first season. But yeah, he won it. No, I watched, I watched like half a season with you, I think, when you were talking about it here on recommendals. And, uh, I just got so tired of it was, it wasn't, it was the host or the, the, the judges drove me nuts. I love, uh, Ken John.

but everybody else, Nicole Scherzinger, Danny McCarthy. Jenny McCarthy especially. I'm just joking about. I'm not going to reuse the joke I use every time I talk about Jenny McCarthy on Mass Singer, but I've made that joke many times. Just go listen to some previous episodes. You're sure to hear it.

Exactly. Go back. You'll find it. All right. Let's do, okay, so I did one this week that I completely forgot to record because I'm dumb and last night I totally spaced it. So I won't be playing it. going to give an impersonation of the movie. So here's what I'm going to tell you about it. It's more of a, I guess this is more of a story because it's a known quantity.

It's not like I'd be fooling you guys. This is a show that came out in 2002. It ran until 2008. I am now in full binge mode. And I am rewatching The Wire. Oh, The Wire. Awesome. And the reason I'm doing that is A, the Wire is awesome. And B, Michael Kenneth Williams, Michael K. Williams died, what, it's been a week now, week

and a half. um he played omar little and uh there's still some some some weird stuff around his death like they think maybe it was definitely drugs but they think the drugs maybe were tainted uh so there there's a criminal investigation so stick around for the netflix netflix documentary on that he is so amazing as omar it's one of the greatest characters in tv history he's so so freaking good anyway um i'm surprised about how much i don't remember so this is a bit of of like a new watch and a weird weirdly it just feels like i'm i'm finally like giving it my full focus or something um and and it is that is an amazing freaking show it's so so good um people

like lance reddick and wendell pierce uh that's HBO right dominic west yeah it's uh it's been yeah it's HBO and it's you know been it's been theirs from the beginning but it's on max now if you want to watch the thing in its entirety um the one character i'm really glomming on to this time that i didn't expect to is um um Bubbles. Reginal Bubbles Cousins played by Andre Royo. Bubbles is such an interesting character. I totally forgot how cool. His whole arc is. It's amazing. Idris Elba's amazing in this. This is Russell Stringer Bell. If you've never seen The Wire and you are okay with some pretty gritty cop drama business, this is just couldn't be further up your alley. It's really, really great and I'm happy to be watching it. So anyway, that's an easy one, kind of a cheat.

I've seen it and also it's just on HBO. It's just the thing you can watch. But I really, really like it. It is, again, the wire and available now. Nicole, what did you bring with you today? Well, I had it timed perfectly, and then I copied that meme, and I lost my... Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Got a re-coppy, copy and paste. The first part of it will give it away, so I want to. I know immediately as I hear it okay I got it good enough good enough all right okay it's a documentary it's on Amazon Prime uh yeah there you go all right here we go scrolling so I can't see it there we go it's out of my view all right hit and play oh it's 30 seconds in or something okay here we go no what is the real story of Lula Roe we want to see women succeed that's where the business started

There's magic in the air, but most people have not sold anything. There became the push to put off a successful image. Deanne says, I got the weight loss surgery. I can hook you up. What the f-mm? They wanted them to drink the Kool-Aid. Let's just shower people with events. In 14 months, we experienced $2 billion worth of growth.

They're using cheap language of feminism. We were empowered, and then the husband was supposed to take over. What inspired the empowerment of women for you? Can I jump in there and then you can talk? That was the best line. This is that Lula. Lula Rich. Lula Rich.

Yeah, I keep seeing ads for this before other things that I'm watching and I was curious about this. Yeah, I'm super interested. This is a fire festival, doc, people. I love that thing. The same people that did Fire Festival did this documentary. So it's Lula Rich. It's the story about Lula Rowe. Now, Lula Rowe is still in business.

They still sell leggings. I've never bought any Lula Rowe, even though I have been invited so many times on Facebook, I have friends that would do live Lula Rho parties. And I'm like, just give me a pair of black leggings. I don't need. This is like pyramid scheme or like a, not pyramid, but like a. It's like a Tupperware party kind of idea, right? Yes. So it teeth.

So it's, I think it's a four part. documentary series that goes into what MLMs are, what a cult is, what a pyramid scheme is. And it's crazy because the creators and owners of Lula Row sit down for this documentary. They sat with the people that made the documentary for like eight or nine hours. And everybody's like, why did they do that? Yeah. Because they want to control the narrative. they want they want it to kind of they're gaslighting all of these women and it's just crazy that this is

happening right now and it's not just this company oh it happens everywhere how you how many times I get invites for stupid fingernail like no dude it's it's huge I have family members wrapped up in this crap right now like it's a different thing but it's the same kind of thing And that we work documentary I watched a month ago or whatever and recommended on the show. Same effing thing. Like, gross. I hate it. And it's all on this premise of be your own boss, own company.

You don't own crap. You don't own a business. You basically are just selling their stuff. And they can cancel you at any time. And they go into that, like they had a really bad. run of leggings and let me just clarify it's leggings that's all they're selling is leggings yeah stuff you can go get at the store yeah about leggings yeah but like the butt was ripping out they're super stinky and you have to they call it onboarding where you have to give them five to

ten thousand dollars just to start your business and then you get your inventory and they were sending stinky gross inventory to these women and they're like we can't sell this and then they like gaslit them to say oh you're the problem we're not the problem you're the problem and there's like all kinds of just seedy crazy stuff happening in that company and the documentary was just like I follow one of the girls that's in that documentary on TikTok and that's actually how I found out about it because I it's fascinating it's fascinating yeah I love this kind of stuff um the fire festival is another good example like all of these colty um business business it's so I hate it man the can't the one around here that's there was huge for a few years

was that candle one um what were they called crap but you go to a house and it'd be like we're doing a candle party and you're going to buy all these candle warmers And I forgot the name of it. They're based in Idaho. But they, they acted like it was a religion, this stuff. These stupid can't. And you can't say anything negative about it.

No. So, like, or you're booed it. Sensi, that's it. Sensi. Sensi. Yeah. Right. There's a lot of them.

Yeah, there are. But it blew the road just really just blew up. Yeah. And, yeah, I don't know. Sidian, sitting's like, yeah, also religions. Keep an eye on those. too. I know. I know. This isn't like new to, this isn't new to humanity. We've been at this for a long time. And it's, what's weird is in the modern sense, there's just so much like granularity. Because

it used to be back in the day, you know, in the 1600s, sure, you had your, your big culty organizations, but they were like three of them. Now everybody could go do one. Nicole could do one tomorrow and convince us all to join. Like, let me, maybe you wouldn't. You'd never do that. You'd never do that. But that's my point. But you could. Yeah. But you see. See, here's the thing about my shopping style. Don't make me feel guilty about not buying your stuff. Like, I had a friend at Mateo's school, and she's like trying to make me, she keeps adding me to this group.

And it's all about, like, kid clothing. I'm like, I don't want. Like, I finally just had to tell her, please stop adding me to this group. group. I am not interested. I appreciate what you're trying to do. Like, I truly appreciate that they're trying to start a business, but I'm not interested. And don't make me feel like crap for not being interested. What's great about it, though, is that now they're getting so bad that you can kind of spot them a mile away. Oh, I can spot them a mile away. If anything, yeah, that's the one thing I wanted to say about this is, Brian, that's a really good point. Like,

we are now at least at a point, a point in history where the delineation is very, very, clear it's like I know what you're doing and I can spot you a mile away I can spot you five miles away right and then the people that are still into that and doing it unironically there's not there's a perfect delineation there too of the kind of people I want to spend any time with you know what I mean I know what kind of person is into that stuff and I don't want to be anywhere near you if you're into it I just don't the weird thing is there's many layers to this and you know I I would be lying if I didn't say that our business touches on some of that in the sense that, you know, we do some affiliate marketing. So like when Mark buys a product from Amazon, we could, we could say, hey, if you, you know, he could talk about that product and say, oh, if you buy it through our link, we'll get a small percentage.

But we don't actually see, like, who buys what or it's a very, you know, there's a layer of, we're, we're taking it on Amazon. Amazon's word that we're actually getting an affiliate on that. But there's many levels to this. And this level, when you are part of that business and you have to put out money to own product and there's really, and they go into this in the documentary, they had a buyback program, but then they ended it. And they have so many lawsuits against them right now. It's kind of ridiculous.

I can't believe. I also love it on these docs where the owners, runners, founders, whatever, think they're so freaking smart that they're going to sit down and make sure that the record or the narrative

is what they wanted to be. It ends up making it so much worse for them because they just look so bad. So I'm glad to hear that they did that with this one because I hate when they didn't, you know, when they don't talk to founders, then it just feels like it's a little one-sided.

It's interesting. It's a whole family inside business. They hired all their family and it's just, it's kind of wild. And let's be clear, I've participated in some of this MLM MLM companies that I actually do

I have no regrets. Like I love Tupperware. I love Avon. You know, I did Mary Kay. So they're not all bad. There's just some that are really bad. Well, I'm totally going to watch this. I love a train wreck and this sounds like one of those.

And a well-made one because that documentary team is known for like quality docs so yeah i'm in uh yeah don't do i have i have family that are involved in what's it called crap some mlm it's actually based out of here but they're in amway is it amway no it's a newer one like like oh life vantage it's called you heard of this life vantage it makes me want to have diarrhea right now talking about it i hate the name already sounds like Okay, that's, that's a skin. I sat and listened to somebody, I sat and listened to, I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus by name, but somebody sat there and tried to tell me, mom, my mom, who had to get brain surgery to remove a tumor, they were like, you know, we shouldn't, she shouldn't go get that tumor removed. Just take this regimen that we got here at Live Vantage.

That'll take care of that tumor. And I just about put my shoe up their butthole. I was so mad. I would have threw my shoe at their head. I was so mad. Oh, my gosh. I got out of here. Anyway, thankfully, my mom's not an idiot, and she, even with the tumor in her head, made the right decision.

But anyway, all right, that's awesome. And here's what's cool. Nicole records all of these things that we've talked about in her brain. And then she puts them out on a tweet over it. Actually, I put them on a piece of paper. Oh, good. Even better. My brain does that.

I'm too old to remember anything now. Well, there you go. Even better. So go follow her, Nicole's bag on Twitter, and you can find out what the crap we watched. Nicole, anything else you want to mention? think about, talk about, no? Happy birthday to my daughter who just turned six. Aw, happy birthday, Eva.

She's such a cute. All right. We'll see you next time. Bye now. I'm going to hang up on Brian. Hold on. Hey, I was going to ask you. I screwed that up again.

Sorry, go ahead. I screwed up. Oh, were you going to ask her a question? Sorry, I cut you off. Yeah, but no, that's all right. I'm not going to ask her now. I was going to ask her offline to see if she watched something and recommendled it before because I've been watching something that is old enough.

that she might have recommended it, but maybe not. Maybe not. So I'll ask, I'm going to text her and ask her. Hey, we all have phones. Let's do it. Let's make it happen. Yes, exactly. We'll make it happen.

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Yeah, there you go. Oh, Beyonce. I remember her from the Destiny's Childs. From Beyonce and the Destiny's Childs. Yeah, she's not very well known. No. So I want to try and get her some notoriety, but they're both celebrating her birthday.

And there's even a crossover between the two. So that's going to fit in. Nice. Well, if she wanted it, she should have put a ring on it. Okay. She should have, yes, exactly. Let's get out of here. Speaking of music, you probably have some, yeah?

I have some. I have something that's going on to Dan Andrew. Says, Greetings and Salutation, Scotch and Bourbon, long-time listener, third-time requester by Sure Happenstance, I found out about a concert nearby featuring the songs and voice actor of Animaniacs with an orchestral backing. Since my crippling social anxiety keeps me from ever attending a con, this is going to be the closest I ever come to a meeting of any of my favorite, or close to meeting any of my favorite voice actors. I would like to request, if any, exist, a cover of any of the Animaniac songs that I don't have.

If none exist, I would also love to hear something from Yako Warner's mashup band, Rock Sugar. I've only heard the first album on YouTube, so at the very least, listen to the album for yourselves. The concert, this is Saturday, was this Saturday, August 28th, so I doubt this will get there in time. So whenever you want to play it, it'll give me a burst of happy memories from the concert. Thanks, Dan Andrews. uh so yeah the um this is something i didn't even realize uh the guy who leads the band rock sugar which is a brilliant heavy metal mashup band if you have not checked out rock sugar you need to uh is the guy who did the voice of uh yako on animaniacs is a guy named uh jess k harnel

nice uh do the new stuff too did they come back and do the new ones you know or they have oh i have no idea oh i wonder um he's also the voice voice of Crash Bandicoot in all of the great PlayStation games he's Iron Hyde and the Transformers films oh and I didn't know this he's been the announcer for America's funniest film video since 1998 prompting

the question oh that's still on yeah that sounds right anyway so Rock Sugar they crowd fund an album a couple years ago called Reinventinator which followed their first album their debut album Reimaginator And it's just as good as the first album.

You need to go and get it immediately, Reinventinator. The song I'm going to be playing is a cover of a bunch of tunes, covering stuff by ACDC, Aerosmith, and Fallout Boy. You could probably tell by the name of it what's in there. Walk in Black for centuries. Here is Rock Sugar. Backstroke lover always hiding you need the covers till he talked to me daddy he said you ain't seen nothing till you're down on a muffin then you show to be a change in the race. I made a tree a leader was a real young breeder all the times I could run.

I'm a miss Because the best things Are loving With a sister and a cousin Only got it with a little kiss Like this Some legends I've told Some turns

To dust or to gold But you will Remember me For centuries And just one mistake Is all it will take We'll go down in history Remember me for centuries

Sees all swinging with your boys in the slewling your feet flying up in the air singing hey diddle diddle with your kitty in the middle of the swing like you didn't care so it took a big chance at the high school dance with a missing who was ready to play wasn't mean she was doing because she knew what she was doing what she told me how to walk this way Some legends are told Some turn to dust or to gold But you will remember me Remember me for centuries

And just one mistake It is all it will take We'll go down in history Remember me for centuries Hey ya Oh hey Hey Hey

Venturees Take me down to the paradise Where the grass is green And the girls are breathing Take me home Take me down to the paradise in the way the grass is green and the girls are pretty Oh, won't you please take me home Remember me for centuries

It's going to take a lot to drive me away from you There's nothing that I remember no more could ever do I bless the rains tell you left to come Oh bless the rains Ranged down the world Remember me for centuries I want to go I want to go

I want you please take me home Love this way It's all this way Love this way Just can't kiss Blackness A little boy in its way We're blue

When I'm black Oh my black He's a fucking black Hey Oh hey Oh hey Hey Yeah

You're treated like a cover of mine Just can be a kims He's doing the time. Like this. Look this way. And another broke my heart. And another broke my heart. Remember me for centuries

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