The Morning Stream - TMS 2200: Gruesome Space Chili

Episode Date: November 4, 2021

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Well, sure, I'd quite love a chocolate. or do you have any weird The Sensation of Europe Now made in America by Sampsonite This is the morning stream With Scott Johnson and Brian Ibbett Good morning everybody Welcome to TMS.

It is Thursday, November 4th, I'm Scott Johnson. He's Brian Ibit. All of this is correct information. Good. I've got verification on line one. You may now mark it down in your programs with a check mark. Nice. So I'm glad I can finally mark that one off. Hey, everybody, what's going on? How are you? It's Thursday. We got stuff. We've got a show. We're glad to be here. We hope you are as well. I saved a little something for the top of the show today that I hope will be fun.

Okay. You'll be the judge of this. Okay, whether it's fun or not. Me or all of us as a whole. I think you in particular, and then the rest after, but you in particular. So I got in the mail, and I don't know why. I don't remember ordering this. So I think somebody ordered this for me and didn't leave their name, okay?

That happens sometimes. A little surprise gift. Yeah, we all get the occasional generosity from our Tedpool community. Yeah. So, you never know what you're going to get. in this box says Vanski Ultraviolet LED flashlight

Oh wow, okay Do you think that's what's in there Or do you think it's a It's a ruse We're gonna find out, okay It appears to be a flashlight Oh yeah, okay So this is exactly what it is

Oh, this is so you could It's like, wait, ultraviolet or black light Like this is gonna be so you can look at Oh, is that what's going on here? Staines in your hotel room Oh, so you can find like your your water leak thing. Oh, that's what it was.

Oh, did I order this that day? Free Ranger says you did. Scott did order it. He ordered on the air a few weeks ago to see the water stain. I forgot. I totally forgot. You're right.

What a lovely gift from yourself. From myself, yeah. Oh, damn it. I don't have batteries handy. We could look and see how this looks. All right. Well, now we know the anonymous giver was me. And I guess

that's a, you know, look at that. Look at that. Look at all those LEDs. Yeah. I guess I would use this to, I wish I could try it here so we could all see with the blue. I know, so we could see, yeah. I'll try it. I'll hook it up tomorrow, but we'd be able to see what kind of breakfast you spilled on yourself. Yeah, I actually really curious, like, right around my desk here. Like, what kind of keyboard nightmare?

Oh, I know. I don't even want to know what, you know. All right. Well, I'm not doing that now, but. No. No. Okay. Well, yeah, I bought that. I forgot. Completely forgot that I got that. I love it. Out of sight, out of mind.

I don't remember what I was doing there. Rickles show title. I'm already loving it. I'm already going to go click that. I love this one. The anonymous gifts are coming from inside the house. Oh, that's great. Well done.

Amy. Nicely done. Yeah, I order, I never order the stuff I order, or I never remember the stuff I order if I do it on the show because we're in the middle of a show. And mentally, I'm not really committed. It's kind of an impulse and you just do it. And I mean, this is like 12 bucks or something. It was like nothing.

And then I forgot what I got it for. And also, we haven't had a problem with the water since the last storm. So I kind of think I know what it is now. Oh, really? You figured out where it might be coming from? I think so. So basically, you know how I've got, I rewired upstairs internet to go down here to ensure that I had a backup for sure. Yeah.

And I had to do it by going out the window up there, down the wall, and then into the vent that is the furnace room over down here where all the other internet stuff is so there's a cable that's out in the wild in the in the nature that goes down in sure now if it just lands on that cable and just travels along it into your house i think that's what's happening we're waiting for a storm where we get enough wind that because it only happened on the windy two two times we had a windy storm and the wind the wind is blowing toward the house and like in and like making water go in there whereas uh the the sprinkle we had the other day did nothing because it was There was no wind.

So I think that's what's going on. But then I got, you know, this flashlight, I can go check for, you know, carpet weirdness. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. And I'll figure out some other fun uses for it. I don't know. I don't know what. Yeah, just don't take it.

Just don't take it to Vegas. Oh, hell no. I am never taking a black light, ultraviolet light to Vegas. Ever. Ever. I feel like that thing would just like start vibrating in my pocket the minute I got to town. Right. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, you basically would need sunglasses as soon as you turn it on in your hotel room, like, oh, it's so bright from all the stuff in the walls. Yeah, I don't want that. So, anyway, I bought myself something, I guess. That's the weirdest opening segment you've ever done. All right, moving on. We got an email from Nick who wanted to clear something up about the Matt Flanagan thing, although it's Mike, but he's being funny about the Matt part. Hold on. Hold on.

I'm going to give you a link really quick. Please. This is a good show content. please uh this is from the tv show er i'm sorry not er c s i which takes place in Vegas uh jump to about the 40 second uh mark 40 second mark all right i don't think i don't think you're going to hear any who music playing in this all right for oh good because we won't get in trouble then uh 40 seconds hold on 40 30 here we go oh it's a short clip that's what i got it is a short clip all right i'm jumping ahead here we go

What is this from? I don't think it's from CSI, Las Vegas. I think this is from, I think it's from some BBC thing based on that laughter. That's freaking hilarious. Oh, did you not put that on the chat? I didn't show them. I should.

it's here chat my bad let me show you this video because you need to see this uh in my head you're going to look at you know what we got to talk for a second about british laughter can we do Yeah, right. Well, you know what? It's kind of so much better than the canned laughter you get on older shows from the U.S. Yeah, why is it that it's so, like even their new stuff, like that Graham, what's his name show where they interview people? Yeah, Graham Norton. Graham Norton. I like Graham Norton. Yeah, I do too. But when the audience laughs, it's a different kind of laugh. It's like I can't explain it. I think it's number one. It seems like it's louder compared to the microphones they put in audiences in the U.S. Yeah.

It could be wrong. Yeah. J.K. Kramer says U.S. has canned laughter. The U.K. has tinned laughter. I see. I see what he did there. That's great. Thanks, James K.

But like, it's, I wish I had two examples here. Because, like, if you hear the MASH one, there's a certain kind of tone to it. And then if you hear one from like an old British comedy of the same era, it's a very different tone of laughter. Probably more trebily. Like for some reason, like just listening to that one, the laughter sounded a little bit more on the treble side. Yeah. Than the base. It's just, I think, how it's mixed.

All right. Well, oh, it's genuine. Oh, really. Oh, I see. Oh, that's so funny, Claire. I see. She didn't even put it in all caps. What's wrong with her today?

You're not feeling well? What's going on? Yeah, geez. I don't know. I shouldn't encourage it now because if you do too many of the robot times are out for 10 seconds or whatever it is. Right. No, and everybody hates. We all hate laugh tracks.

We like genuine laughter. But the genuine laughter sounds different. Like if you were listened to a, God, I mean, a bad example is like the Ellen show or something, right? Where she's got an audience and they're laughing. There's a very different sound than Graham Norton, for example. Oh, exactly. Yeah, that's exactly my take. And I don't know why that is.

But like some, like watching Seinfeld and that audience laughter when they're on set, not when they're in a car or something else, because that's all, you know, phony baloneyed. But the audience stuff. They weren't actually in a car. They were still on set, just in a little car. Well, so. Okay, not bad example then. Like the parking garage one or the.

Oh, that's a good point. Because that, yeah, that looked like it was, right. That wasn't a set. Yeah, they have plenty of. of outdoor scenes. And whenever they do those, that's always canned. But the, or I don't know, maybe they're showing it to a live audience and the audience is reacting. I don't know.

Oh, it could be. Yep. But when they're in set and they're in their little three camera set, there's something I like about that laughter and I don't think of it as a last track. Yeah, it feels like a live reaction. It's like being a part of a play or something.

Cheers is filmed before a live studio audience. doodoo do do there's a nice little piano intro for those things yeah right exactly well anyway on the issue of mike flanagan yes i'm sorry again back to mike back to mike flanagan uh nick rodin says hey oingo and boingo you were chatting about the mike not matt flanagan on tms and i got super excited this guy makes art and i feel like uh it was made directly for me and i love how popular his work is becoming you mentioned kate seagull and i just wanted to point out that one of the reasons that she is in almost everything he does is because

they're married. Well, I didn't know that. There you go. She's a lovely woman. Well, well done. And he's kind of, you know, he's like me. He's a schlub. He's like a weird-looking dude. He's like a, well-done.

Anyway, I just want to. She's like a more approachable Angelina Jolie. Yeah, she has, from a profile shot. She's a little bit of a Jolie look. Yeah, Kim said that, watching haunted. She goes, is Angelina. to Jolie in this? I'm like, no, honey. That's not her. Anyway, and I was wanting to point out one of the reasons that she is, oh, because they're, oh, they're married, which is cool. They make great

stuff together. Oh, and she is fantastic. Then he says, couple recommendations. Flanagan has a movie on Netflix called Hush, which is a really intense. It also has a pretty neat midnight mass connection and the main character writing a book with a sad title. That's weird. Anyway, A scene showing what is written actually contains an actual scene from the show. I think that that title shows up in Gerald's game as well. He has a book on the shelf. They also check out Dr. Sleep. Director's Kind of Possible.

I'm recently rewatching the film Oculus, which is still really good as well. Oh, wow. I didn't realize he did Dr. Sleep. I remember there's a movie Hush that I think is a different one, which had Jennifer and Lee in it. This is more of a more recent 2016 thing called Hush. I think this one's 2016. Not what I'm saying.

This is the Jennifer Jason Lee one late 90s. This one, the Flanagan one is 2016. I haven't seen the, I've saw Dr. Sleep, but I haven't seen the director's cut. So again, I need to relook that up. I haven't seen either, and I don't know why I should watch that. I really enjoyed it. It was a good, it was a good sequel. I'm which sounds crazy right like right and it must be weird watching uh you and

McGregor play what who could have been you as a child Brian you were almost the child right I know yeah I'm trying to remember who's the woman who plays the uh the villain in that because we've seen her in a lot of stuff recently or I have anyway uh she's great Meredith Baxter Bernie definitely not uh Rebecca Ferguson okay and we just saw her in uh Dune as the mom as Paul's mom. She's great in Dune.

She is really good. Like, Lady Jessica Atreides. Yeah, she's intense in that movie. She's very good. In fact, in some way,

she stole the show. I'll just, I'll just say it. I think that Timothy Shalome kid's good. He's great. He's good. He's very good.

Yeah. I didn't expect his mom to take the. No. She was in the last two Mission Impossible movies. Yeah, she was that other, she was the agent that was

kind of working with and kind of against him at the same time. Right, exactly. She was good. She was very good. Life, which I don't remember if I've seen or not, that's Ryan Reynolds in space, looking at some goofy living thing. Some goofy living thing, creature.

Wow, your synopsis. Get over to IMDB before you forget it. I know, I better quickly write that down as the... I have not seen life, and I remember it kind of came and went, and then... Yeah, it had some bad reviews, and I... I think we were probably potentially waiting to see if it was sackable, I think, is the... Oh, well, there's always that. We can always film sack it.

Yep. Well, anyways, yeah, she also wrote Hush Kate Siegel did. Oh, really? Cool. Yeah, which is cool. I'm going to go watch it. In fact, I hadn't even heard of Hush until last week, and I don't know why. This stuff's all up my alley.

I love Gerald's game. I like everything else he does, so thank you for the heads-up, Nick, if that is your real name. jk grammar confirms life is sackable and hush is on netflix nice yeah hush is on net uh Netflix original I think I think it'll always be there oh it is Netflix original okay you just said that yeah I think I did I think I did you probably did and that warrants a red on air light we haven't had one of those in a while it's nice to know we can still pull that one I know yes exactly fire up the fire up the red light generator that's right

you don't have to turn on the red on air light all right there we go Real quick here. Oh, I have a comic book recommendation. Ooh, okay. I loved the first issue of a brand new comic that just came out from Tom Taylor, who I have become a gigantic fan of. His work is just freaking awesome. I just love his work. And he writes stuff for everybody.

He did the all-new Wolverine series that I finished and loved. The deceased series. which is the one where this is basically Marvel zombies for DC kind of he did an amazing job with that he just did something for Marvel called what's the date on this oh I can't find it dang it all right well there's an amazing new series on Marvel as well that he just finished but he goes back and forth he also did that Injustice series for DC which by all account should have been terrible. It's based on a video game.

Right, because it's based on the comic or the video game, yeah. Yeah, nobody thought that was going to be any good. And it was, it's some of my favorite DC stuff ever. Like, it's so good. Loved it to death. Anyway, he's got this brand new series called Dark Night's Knights. Oh, shit. Where is it?

Dark Knights and White Satin. Here it is. Dark Knights of Steel at issue one. Dark Knights in Rodham. With. with art by Yasmin Putry. The art is amazing. Anyway, it's really great.

It's this alternate history take of Clark when he, or sorry, when, okay, so when Clark's parents shove the baby in the rocket and send them off before Krypton blows up. Yeah. Instead, this take is they all got in the rocket. And she hasn't even had the baby yet. She's still pregnant. So alternate history. They get in the rocket together.

So you got Jorrell, Lady L, and then... Mrs. L. Yeah, and then just enough room for the two of them. They land somewhere in this, like, medieval but fantasy-based, like, realm. So Earth, like, Earth, but... Earth, but magic. It's got magic, and it's like... Oh, gotcha, okay.

You know, Lord of the Rings-ish, but there's castles and all this shit. So they crash there, a bunch of dudes on horses try to kill him. Jorail wipes him all out with his eyeballs and then becomes king because he's too powerful to no one else can fight the guy. Jacey Calhoun says D.C.'s version of Marvel 1602. Yeah, right.

Oh, very much so. Okay, very much so. I didn't even think about that. Yes, I think it's set earlier, you know, if it's in an actual timeline it's set earlier, but it's also, it's got like just straight up magic in it. But the magic comes in the form of characters you know, like Banshee and the Green Lantern is called the Green Man and everyone's afraid of him,

He's kind of the villain of the story. Batman, Bruce Wayne, is like the top knight of the realm and is sworn to protect the king and his family no matter what. He's got a bunch of robins working for him. But it's all done in this like story. It's great. It's so good. I loved it. So I guess what I'm saying is there's only a single issue out so far.

Totally worth the buck 36 or whatever it is. It's brand spanking new. Cool. Yeah. And it's great. So a little recommendation. And then whatever the thing he did just did for Marvel, like, I can't, I cannot think of the name of it. But he just did it.

It was real good. Hmm. Like, a bit like his take on the DC thing where they were all fighting each other in injustice, it's a little like that. Right. Not just the retread of things like Civil War, but, you know. Well, let's mention it to Stephen. and maybe he can remember what the name of that one was. Yeah, maybe I could have names of things in my recommendations when I bring them up on the show.

What was the people on, want to know the dark night? Dark night of rising. The dark nights of steel. That's it. Dark night of steel. Dark night of steel. Okay. Yeah, knights is in plural.

So there you go. Dark knights of steel. And the art is really nice. It's very nice. Cool. Jasmine. Yeah, I think. I have a recommendation.

Don't bet on the Packers this weekend. Oh, yeah, you don't think, uh, when do they play? When's the, what's the day? They think they play Sunday and, uh, uh, it just came out yesterday that Rogers, Aaron Rogers tested positive for COVID. Oh, no. Yes. And there's question, uh, that he may have lied about getting the COVID vaccine. And how they can test for that to see if they can, can they now that he has COVID?

I thought there was, well, I don't know. How do those antibody tests work? Do those do anything? Yeah, that I don't know. I mean, and Benjino, 006 says, but he said he was immunized. And that's funny because they said, hey, have you gotten the COVID vaccine? He says, yeah, I've been immunized.

Which could be anything. And it, you know. Yeah. It sounds like he didn't. Columbo might have asked a few follow-up questions. Pardon me, Mr. Aaron Rogers. Pardon me. I've got some questions.

Well, all right, yeah, so A, they probably don't let him play with a positive case, right? Oh, they certainly will not. Yep, so he will not be playing this weekend, so now's a good time. It's funny, the line went from Packers minus 1 to Chiefs minus 7.5. Yeah. So spread changed dramatically, and it's a bummer that I didn't get it on it before that bomb dropped, because that would have been a great line to bet on. Well, because you love your team.

And, you know, you know what you're going to do. Although, yeah, that's the thing I probably would have put money on the Packers minus one and a half. So it's not like I would have gone against the Packers in that case. And I would have lost whatever. So still betting on the Chiefs this week, probably. Ah, the chefs. That's fantastic. The chefs.

Great. Googly-Mugly-Mugly. Man, that commercial really stuck with us, didn't it? It really did, yeah. Of all the commercials we've ever seen for Super Bowls, that one just stays. It's crazy. Yeah, it's true. It's like of the, you know, we remember a lot of the older ones, the Apple 1984 business and some of the other things like that.

But as far as newer ones, I think that's the one that I think of most, or that I remember most. Gold standard. From the recants. Yeah. That weird kissing, the nerd kissing the swim, suit model. Oh, yeah, that was weird. I can't even remember what I was for. GoDaddy? Was it GoDaddy? GoDaddy had, they were known for shocking, you know, trying to be irreverent and, yeah, exactly. Which is pretty dumb, considering what they actually are.

Yes, exactly. Pretty dumb. I heard Christy Swanson got hospitalized. She's like, you know, she's on a ventilator. Oh, no. She's super like, uh, anti. Christy Swanson, Buffy the Vampire, Christie Swanson? Yeah. Super, super anti. anti-vax, super, um, all that. Now she's, she's on a vent. I don't want her, I don't want her to die or anything. No, of course not. Yeah, there we go.

Oh, geez. Yeah, it looks like she's in Jersey. Well, you just kind of hope that this, uh, that this makes some people who followed her, follow her and, and, uh, and we're doing what she says saying, oh, maybe, um, yeah, maybe I will go get that vaccine. Seems like maybe. Christy Swanson Dice Tomato is not in Ferris Bueller, is she? Or was she? Say again, who?

Ferris Bueller? I don't remember her being in that. Who'd she play? She was the girl who says, well, my cousin's friend told me that his, like, basically she retells the chain of events that led to her that he's really sick. That's right. She's in the classroom. That's right.

I forgot she did any of that. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, and she was in other John Hughes things. Yep. And also in Dude Where's My Car. So there's that. She's also our age. So good luck to you. COVID don't like us at our age. Anyway, moving on to this story. Rasmussen, sorry, Rasmus Johansen. That's a real name. Okay, I promise. It's a real name. Yep. He wrote in, says, talking about plane dumps. Because we were talking about that dude in Europe who got hit with a plane. waste brick a frozen poo a frozen poo block yeah which is no good

he says hello savant and bloodsport I just listened to TMS 2195 where you discuss the news article about the guy who got human waste dumped on him in his garden since this seems to come up on every show or on your show every now and again as an aircraft mechanic I would just like to clarify that normally planes do not

dump the contents of the toilets out of the back of the plane this would be a sanitary and environmental nightmare airplanes have an onboard septic tank that are emptied after landing. The loud sucking noise you hear when flushing is not due to the stuff being sucked out of the plane. It is pressurized in a septic system sucking the contents out of the toilet bowl into the septic tank. Most likely what happened to this guy is due to some kind of malfunctioning of the system

that regulates the pressure of the septic system on the plane during ascent, causing waste to exit from the valves and to regulate air pressure in the system or fail to regulate air pressure in the system. This is, of course, or sorry, this, of course, isn't something that normally happens to sum it up. Scott, the chances of poo being dumped on some poor soul on the ground if you were to poop on a plane is pretty much non-existent. Love the show, though. All right, there's some confusion here, though. My desire never to take a crap on a plane has nothing to do whether it gets ejected or not.

That's not it. It doesn't have to do with somebody, yeah. Nothing to do with that at all. It just has to do. Actually, I don't have a good answer for you why it's a problem for me. I just don't want to do it. Any more than I, you know, I don't know, want to do anything in a public way. I don't like being in that.

I don't, I'm not super claustrophobic. I'm more like John McLean going through the ventilation system claustrophobic, not airplane toilet seat claustrophobic. But that's a lot of stuff to work on in a little tiny space. And I'm a big guy. And, no, I'll pee on a plane. I really don't like pooping on a plane. Yeah, you'll do it if you have to. And I will, too, came down to it, right?

I'm not saying I would kill myself trying not to. But I don't want to. I'd like to go at the airport or the other one when we land or not at all. Or just at home. Yeah. How about at home and then not again for the rest of the damn day? How about that? Exactly.

Yes. No, I'm totally with you. Yeah. So that's a thing. Anyway, thanks for the four hour flight to Vermont this last weekend both ways and did not get up to P once. Oh, well, well, well done. Nice job, actually. that's yeah that's um i don't know that's harder to do than you'd think because you drink it is you know

you drink exactly i drink the whole time drinking now yeah he's drinking real quick though i just wanted to tell rasmus johansen that um he did help me clarify something here which is i did assume because there's so many of these stories about big chunks of crap flying out of these planes and hitting people's yards or slamming their roofs or whatever i thought that is how the planes got rid of it and they just would get unlucky about where it landed. But according to him, that's not normal at all. In fact, it's rare. No, no. That would be so

horrible. Because I mean, yeah, no, even just going over a city or something, that stuff doesn't, there's not enough room for it to burn up on re-entry. I mean, you're going to have a turd log and some toilet paper landing on Bill as he walks

down the street with his Starbucks. What would you do? All right, here's a what would you do? If a giant slab of blue, you know, frozen plain poop ice slammed into your roof. Okay. Do you try to... There's a hole in the roof.

Let's say it didn't create an actual hole, but it was like up there, you know. Would you... Your instinct is man of the house, you know? Like, guy who's going to fix shit and get her done. Yeah, yeah. Would you go up and try to take care of that? Would you call, like, I don't know. Oh, I'd call.

I'd call. for sure. Who would you call? I don't know. Who would we call? FAA or what do you do? Right. I think you'd call the FAA.

I mean, you know, you identify and say, oh, yeah, that's clearly blue ice fell out of a plane kind of thing. But I'm not going to, I mean, I've got some latex gloves that I used to clean the resin out of my printer. I don't think that's going to be enough. I think I need like a whole suit is what I need if I'm going to be handling that. Yeah, it feels a little hazmatie. I agree.

Yeah. So I think, I mean, I probably would start with, um, uh probably would start with the local police and say hey do you guys know who i call a big chunk of ice just fell on my roof yeah and they probably would say oh i don't know yeah probably call the f a hey they can push it up the chain from there yeah exactly but you'll have to leave it there and let it drip into your den or whatever for an afternoon yeah yeah no tarp tarp uh tarp is job number one yeah well you have those around when you used to go to gallager concerts you have a whole stack yeah exactly you know it's the splash zone yeah you're going to get

you're going to get watermelon on you is the deal yeah same same jane says uh there's an app to tell what plane is flying over you yeah but by the time i find that app and download it and all that stuff yeah you'd want to have that plane won't be flying over me anymore and who knows how much of that stuff will have dripped into my into my attic at that point are you do you know if you're even anywhere clear or close to like where you're not under a flight path we can uh it's funny when whenever i go to Vegas the flight path goes just south of us and if i'm on the right of the correct side of plane i can actually pick out our neighborhood and and probably even pick out our house if it's if i've got enough of a um a heads up but i can easily see the um we're right by cores the uh brewery

Coors, and so they've got a recognizable silo that is a mile south of us. And if I see that as a little landmark, then I can just kind of follow the road in North. There's my neighborhood right there. Yeah. Is that a big deal out there, right? The Coors Place is big. It is. Yeah, it's a huge brewery that takes up a lot of the eastern side of Golden, Colorado.

And if you come to Colorado and you go to Golden, You can take the Coors Beer Tour, although I wonder if they're still doing it during the pandemic. It, on the scale of a zero to the Guinness Tour, it's about a two. The Guinness Tour is the best beer tour I've ever seen. Not that I've been on a lot of beer tours, but it's like Willy Wonka, the Guinness Tour. It was fantastic. That's awesome. Didn't Mike used, or Matt, Matt, Matt used to work at, who am I thinking of?

oh yeah no um uh old man franks oh old man franks that's right yeah he worked at cords he's still not he's not there now he's somewhere else no right exactly yes he's still in denver i believe right yeah i think so him and his cute little kid since we've kind of all stopped playing wow together i don't i don't talk to those people as much anymore i don't know how tsetsemi and and row and uh you'd have to go play a little uh final fantasy 14 to find out and that's where everyone is right now is that the deal is that we're all fine row everyone but he's playing it. Rostar has a new podcast about it. He's like shifted. Like think of all the stuff he used to do around the wild space. Now just turn him slightly to the left. Oh, it's all Final Fantasy now.

Okay. Gotcha. Even Garrett's playing. I can't believe Garrett's playing. He hates anime stuff. I shouldn't say that. He doesn't hate anime stuff. But he thinks, he used to tell me about, oh, I'll never play that game.

It's still not my jam. Can't do it. Can't do it. And now he's in it. Is, all right, is it like, you know, raid teams and stuff like that, or is it still mostly a solo campaign adventure kind of thing? It's basically all those wow trappings are in there. So there's rating and there's, you know, all that.

It's a different kind of rating. Like the focus isn't on how hard can we make this and then have levels to, you know, let's do mythic. It's not like that. It's more like, let's get a giant group together and fight a thing. It's actually probably way more of your speed, if I'm honest. but there's no Mac client so oh well screw that is there uh there's a PS5 client yeah that's I was going to ask okay so it's on consoles it is although I don't think it's crossplay I could be wrong on that I'm not sure I'd let you play with the PC people or not but

might catch might be okay anyway well thank you for that thank you for that interlude of you bet just everybody I know right now is is in there while I knock out quests and elder scrolls online I don't know what's wrong with me that all right moving on Let's get to our emails, or not our emails, or our news. Well, what did we just do? Yeah, what did we even just do? All right, here's this. That sound signifies.

It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by. Brought to you by Coverville today at 1 p.m. Mountain Time, as you probably have guessed from earlier, the hints, well, at least hurt the hints pre-show. It's the 50th anniversary of Led Zeppelin 4, the fourth album by Led Zeppelin, the untitled the fourth album by Led Zeppelin. So it's just simply called Led Zeppelin 4. It's the one with the guy carrying a bundle of sticks up a mountain, and it's got stuff like Black Dog and Stairway to Heaven and Misty Mountain Hop and when the levee breaks.

And you're going to hear covers of each and every one of those songs on today's show. And I do it just like I, just like we're playing an album. I only interrupt during the middle of the album to flip it over. And, uh, and that's what it's all about. So check it out today. Twitch.tv. slash coverville 1 p.m. Mountain Time. Led Zeppelin 4. Yeah, look at him carrying those sticks, chat room. I got a little picture up for him there.

Carry those sticks up that mountain, old man. It's an odd choice for art for your album, don't you think? It is. Yeah. I mean, it works now because we all look back and go, oh, yeah, that's cool, that album or whatever, but. Yeah, well, you know, I mean, look at this other band putting just a prism on their album cover. I mean, it's an all black album cover with a prism on it. What is the deal? What is the deal?

That's the deal. Andy? I would love to do a legit somebody's actual album cover. I would love to do it. Oh. No one ever asks. I mean, you've done three, four Andrew Allen album covers? Yeah, those count, right?

Yes, they absolutely count. I know, I don't think of it that way. You got stock playing keyboards on one of them. Well, it's because I know everybody involved. I feel like that didn't come up in my head. You basically want to want somebody kind of, not out of the blue, but like, like, oh, let's get this guy, Scott Johnson, to do our album cover as opposed to. Yeah, it's just even some indie band.

I don't know a talented artist that would be great for this. It's Scott Johnson. Yeah. Or, you know, it would be fun. Let me do the next Eddie the Beast there. Oh, Iron Maiden. There you go. Yeah, let me do my take on that guy.

Oh, would you do it? And you would do it as, I mean, you'd have to do it in your style. Yeah, but I'd probably go a little more like, I don't know if you saw that recent Wasteland or stuff I did, but it'd probably be a little more. Absolutely. A lot more realism to it. Style eyes, but, you know, not too cartooned. Anyway, we'll see.

All right. Cool. Here is your news for the day. It's important stuff. I'm glad you're all here for the news. This has got to stay informed. Glad you've all joined us for the news, which will commence. Being informed is, you know, if you want to be a good citizen, first thing you do, get informed.

All right. That's what I'm saying. Here's the first news story. Parents warned to look out for cannabis during the... the Halloween weekend. Oh, no. Oh, especially in states like yours where it's legal to sell that stuff and so therefore easier to move around or whatever.

It's, again, it's less that the cannabis is hidden in the candy. It's that somebody accidentally has given out their gummy bears as opposed to the gummy bears they bought for trick-or-treaters. Oh, yeah. I wonder how many times it's just a mistake, right? Like, they just screwed up because that could happen, I would assume. Yeah, you remember those things that are like snuckers and scuttles or something like. that, where it's like, it's got cannabis in it, and the rapper looks kind of like

a wacky packages, kind of looks like the real thing that it's supposed to be, but it's the cannabis version. Yeah. Well, apparently, this is a thing. So this is an Illinois thing, but an Illinois attorney's office, the Illinois attorney's office, general's office, issued a warning last week to be extra careful about which treats end up in your child's hands for Halloween. that could be a cannabis edible look-alike,

like Brian was just describing, that will impart more than your sugar high. The potentially illicit cannabis edibles, which mimic everything from Flaming Hot Cheetos to Skittles. Flaming Hot Cheetos with Cannes? Flaming Hot Cheetos. Flaming Pot Cheetos. That's the better name.

Maybe that's what they use. Maybe that's what they use. I don't know, yeah. That's really good. These are sold online, may contain high confidence. Concentrations of THC, the main psychoactive element in marijuana. You can buy those online from who? I don't know.

That doesn't seem legal, does it? No. Hold on. I wonder if they do some sort of positioning, right? Like a thing to see if you're in a state that allows it. Oh, maybe. Well, let's find out. Oh, look at this.

Okay. That's funny. So many people in the gym are like, no one is handing these out for candy because it's so expensive. I argue, if they're high, they might. They might. And also, okay, this proves, this proves Brian's point. And I'm going to put this on the video, and I'm also going to give it to you in our Discord. In our Discord, okay.

This is the Flamin Hot Cheetos bag, which, unless you're really paying attention, that looks like legit Cheetos. Yeah, it's got Chester on it, who, as we know, is a cheetah. Yeah, what's, but they call it Cheetos? They called it Cheetos. I mean, it's hard to tell with the, um, Medibles? The wrinkle in the bag is it Gitos? It might be a slight weird font thing that they're doing, but...

All the little pot leaves on the bag and medibles and stuff like that. And chat, if you say, I feel like that's fake. I'm getting this off of this weed store that sells it. I can add this to cart and buy them. Yeah. 500 milligrams of THC in these Cheetos. Cheetos, cheesy, yummy edibles package with 600 milligrams of THC in every package, even though above it says 500, now I'm starting to worry.

These are a special calendar. Here's the thing. I mean, this is the stuff you eat when you're already high. What happens, right? I also think so many. Somebody may have written this when they were high. Let me read to you what this says. Okay, so Brian, the listing says Cheetos 500 milligrams THC.

Now, the description says, 20 bucks. That's kind of expensive. It says Cheetos cheesy, yummy edibles chips. Cheezey, yummy edibles chips. packed with 600 milligrams of THC in every package. And this is where it gets weird. No, with 20% more THC since we had the bag done. Then this says, these are the special kind of Doritos.

Wait a minute. They're not even Doritos. Extreme potency. Recommended dosage is to start with just one or two tortilla chips. Again, these aren't tortilla chips. Yeah. And then wait 20 to 30 minutes to see how it affects you. Well, or are they, right?

Like, you know, they might not be doing the cheese. Oh, no, the picture on the front shows little cheese puffs. Yeah, I think this. Yeah. I think they were stoned in road it. I think they did a little copy and paste. What would a guy who's high do? He'd copy and paste, right?

That's what you'd copy and paste and say, well, Cheetos, do you know, whatever, man. I mean, these guys have a ton of, like, let's see here. This is called Googleweed.com. Really? that's their company name Yeah, they're like their Wow, I mean, they're just like Let's throw caution to the wind

And see how many cease and desists We can all get at once. No kidding. I'm trying to see here. Yeah, Google Weed, the first thing you get Is a page that says, Welcome to Google Weed. Are you 19 and over?

Yeah. I'm not both. I think there's a translation issue. Okay, there's one call. There's a listing here called MNM peanut 600 milligrams of THC Oh, it's all very expensive.

Jeez. Yeah. Okay. You know what? Chat room's right. No one's going to spend 23 bucks on an M&M package that's full of weed

infused M&M's and then go, well, putting that in there for a kid just to take it. They're not going to do it. No, I'm sure, but I'm sure like they wouldn't do it on purpose.

I'm just saying if they're high enough, they could easily make that distinction. Oh yeah, look at these. Like they've just replaced the end between the m and ms with an n so it's m nms yeah and they must be offshore i mean they must be an offshore kind of situation where nobody consume or something who knows yeah yeah because they'll say cheetos on that bag i swear right mike and ikes what is that have an n in it as well uh no i can't tell what's different about it mike and ix were always pot-infused i mean these twizzlers all right

I'm putting a link to these twizzlers in here. Oh, let's see. Let's see some Twizzler action. Hot Twizzler action. Yeah, it's, uh. Oh, yeah, look at that. I don't, I can't tell the difference. Twizzler.

No, there's nothing, there's nothing on the friend of this. Oh, like a little tiny 600 milligrams bag in the bottom, or a milligram's logo on the bottom left corner. But the, um, there's nothing else. Strawberry watermelon, strawberry lemonade. I'm artificially. flavored, blah, blah, blah. There's no way to tell. No, except that you spend a ton of money on it, and hopefully you don't give that to a kid at the door, right? Exactly. Coal Cash maybe is right. If they're high enough cover rule, they are answering the door.

Listen, you know, they're probably smart enough to say, yeah, this stuff, don't buy the stuff that, or don't buy the Halloween candy that looks like the stuff that we just got from the dispensary. Yeah, yeah. The one I saw. Because they have the wherewithal at that point before they start smoking all the stuff they got, the Spencer. The one, the edibles I saw either California or maybe it was Vegas. I don't remember. It may have been my last BlizzCon because by then California was legal and everybody had edibles out there. But the way they looked is they all looked like little hex-based coins. So like a gummy but cut into like a hexagon of some sort. Like a honeycomb kind of shit. Yeah, there you go. And I assumed the reason for that was so you could cut them symmetrically if you were going to portion them. If you only were going to take half, you'd get, you'd know what point to what point to cut and get an exact half.

Like Pirates Gold, there you go. Sam James like that. So all this idea that there's a Cheeto full of pot, that's just insane sounding to me. I don't know why. Yeah. And listen, as someone who doesn't partake, the people in the chat room probably know better than me, that even if you're high, you know how much you've spent on all that stuff. So you're not going to accidentally.

That's why it needs to be more mainstream. because the prices will get brought down. That's how that works. Right, exactly. Yeah. All right. Moving on to this story. Astronauts in space.

Oh, no, Steve Bouchemi, let's do this story. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Steve Bouchemi, dressed up as his fellow kids meme for Halloween. Hi, fellow kids. And he passed out candy at Park Slope there in New York. It's pretty awesome. It's the easiest Halloween costume, right? because he's just basically wearing, like, a hoodie and holding a skateboard.

Yep, he's got, I mean, he's actually looking, I hesitate to say this, but Steve Bouchemmy, one of the weirdest looking dudes in Hollywood, he, I think he looks cooler the older he gets. Yeah. Like, there's something happening to him where age is improving his weirdness. But anyway, there he is, getting pictures done, handing out candy, you get the hat turned backwards. It's just like his little meme.

He's even wearing the shirt where it says Classic, classic lightning bolt band that he wears in the meme. And Elvis Costello's with him for some of this. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there he is.

I don't know. What kind of, let's see, Elvis Costello, Steve Bishammy, giving kids an Halloween crawl. That's awesome. How cool would that be? It's funny. That picture does not show. Alvis Costello, though.

Oh, that's not him in the leather jacket. Maybe it's the second. Let me look at another picture because the one I link, the one I jumped to. Oh, yeah, that's him in the leather jacket. Yeah. And he's going. Yeah, the other picture from that, uh, what is up with that leather jacket of his Costello?

I know, man. Yeah, what army do you belong to? Wow. It ain't all of us. You think he's, uh, Veronica. That's on his mind right now. That's what he's doing. Yeah, that's exactly.

Yes. Oh yeah, look at those little chains between chains dangling from it And it looks like skeleton arms on the sleeve on the shoulders maybe on the Looks like an expensive neighborhood in New York Yeah Is my guess? Yes, I would think so Is there such a thing as an expensive neighborhood?

One of the nicer burrows, although they're saying park slope Yeah, where is that? Is that in Brooklyn? Is it a Brooklyn deal? I don't know Well, anyway, Steve Buscemi, showing us how to be real, man. Yes. Yeah, he shot himself in the face and made himself a meme.

Well done. Oh, it's Greenwich Village, maybe? I don't know. I don't know where Park Slope is. I don't know nothing about nothing. Yeah, Kissy Bears confirms it's Brooklyn. Brooklyn, the gentrification capital of the world is what that is. All right.

Finally, astronauts grew some chili in space and made tacos. Grusome. Grusome green chilies. They grew them in space. Yes, that's right. the astronauts aboard the International Space Station had the pleasure of dining on space tacos last week. Tacos topped with green chili that was actually grown in space as part of NASA's Plant Habitat O4 investigation. Scientists began growing chili in the hatch.

A type, or no, it's a growing hatch chili rather. Hatch chili. Oops. Escape Hatch chili. Escape Hatch, chili. Don't push that button. Anyway, type of pepper found in New Mexico's Hatch Valley, aboard the ISS in July in an effort to,

an effort to understand more about the plant-microbe interactions that would happen there. Astronauts have grown other crops such as lettuce and radishes in space before, but peppers are a more difficult grow in space because they take a relatively long time to germinate and bear fruit. I try to remember when I was growing, because I was growing jalapinos and stuff here in the house using the Arrow Garden. And for whatever reason, I'm remembering that tomatoes and peppers, you had to grow the plants and pears because they have to cross, cross-pollinate. Like, the tomato plants pollinate each other's.

But, like, you basically have to go and shake the plants as they start growing because you want the pollen. Is it pollen? Would it be pollen? Anyway, I guess, yeah, from the flowers to go to the other plant. Because that's what happens in nature. And if you have to reproduce that, you have to fake it, right?

Is the idea? Right, exactly. Yeah. Well, look at him and looking at his little space microwave-looking thing. and man was it Tuesday i hope it was Tuesday but uh every day it's Tuesday iS it's always that day um i've noticed something about space okay this is just a final thought everything looks like uh like current like 3d printer technology uh it does no glossy surfaces it's all just exposed cables it is it's weird and also cable management is apparently not a priority for right for space yeah twist ties are light you can carry twist ties up on

the shuttles with you, right? And kind of manage those cables? Space is weird, man. You don't remember what you're going to get in space. Except now I guess you're getting a taco up there. All right, that's going to do it for today's news. We're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy will be here.

We're going to discuss abandonment issues. Oh, interesting. Yes, have any of you been abandoned? Well, stick around because we're going to talk about the origins of that, why it feels bad, and what you can do about it. coming up here. I've lost my boy. I've lost my child. Oh, he's right here.

I have a great story like that that I will save for later, possibly. Oh, great. Okay. Fantastic. We'll find out. All right, Brian, we need to play a song, though, before she gets here. So what do you have? Sure. I've got a new song from Harvey Sutherland. Harvey Sutherland is released a brand new single, along with a new video that looks like it's straight out of the 70s. If you're a fan of EDM, but maybe older sounding edem like craftwork and that sort of thing you're going to love this he's um this is french uh although there's no lyrics or anything he's actually from melbourne australia um the song is called

juisance uh as i as i looked it up and had the youtube lady pronounce it for me um available now juisance on house anxiety by harvey sutherland One, one, why. One. Yeah. Why. Why? Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. And I'm. Yeah. And, yeah.

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life, yeah, Oh, I'm going to be able to be. So, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm a a lot of

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I'm a a I'm a I'm going to be I'm going to be. Oh, and so on the one of the

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You guys want some sandwiches? This is the morning stream. I do indeed want some sandwiches. That song once again was... Sure, that song is called juicants. And it's performed by Harvey Sutherland, brand-new single that he just released this week. Oh, that's lovely. I like the late-breaking music that Brian brings sometimes, you know.

It's right out of the, right off the cooker. Darn right. Fresh off of the stove. Yep. Ready to eat and share with your friends and your family. Mm-hmm. Like this time of year. All right.

I think Wendy's here, so we're going to play this. Hey, look who it is. It's my sister Wendy Dunford all the way from, where she is in Minnesota. Where she is? Where are you? I'm right where I am. Hello, how are you?

I'm good. How are you guys? We're fine. How was Halloween? Did everything go fine? Halloween was so fun. Do you have a lot of trick-or-treaters? No, which is just what I like.

I like about 20. And that's what I got. So I was really happy about it. That's not too bad. You don't want to be there all night. The dog eats it. You know, it's a thing. You want basically enough to empty the bag of candy you bought, and that's about it.

Sure. Yeah. And with some leftover, let's be honest. Did you have the whole, like, you know how it isn't here in Utah, if it lands on a Sunday, they do it on a Saturday or something? They did that this year, and it was like all split up. And so you had these, like, you know, you had the sectarian folks on Sunday still showing up. So we kind of had a two-dayer going. But most of them happened on Saturday.

I assume it was all a Sunday. fair out there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then that's normal and that's how it should be. Did you dress up as anything? Adam grew up in Ohio until he was like 11 and he said they had what was called Beggers Night and that was always the last

Saturday or Friday I can't remember of the month and that the whole community decided that's when trick-or-treating was. It never changed so it could have been, you know, the 27th. It didn't matter. It was just that's when trigger-treating would happen and then people can just party on

Halloween and I just love this idea. I think it should be scheduled. Don't make it on a Monday. You know what I mean? It ruins school. I agree. I agree. They should always just say last Friday or Saturday of that month instead of the... I agree. Yes. Make it a... Yeah. Most of

our holidays should be that. St. Patrick's Day should be that. Valentine's Day should be that. Like, you know... What days do we have? I guess Thanksgiving's the last Thursday. Right. Easter is always on a Sunday. Like, you know, there's ones that you just couldn't do it with things like New Year's Eve or Christmas probably.

I just wish Christmas was always a Wednesday. Yeah. Always. A Wednesday. Why a Wednesday? Because it's like, like, really, what are you going to do Monday and Tuesday? Yeah, exactly. And then Thursday, Friday, it means a whole week is Christmas.

I love it. It's Wednesday is a perfect day for Christmas. Yeah, you know what? You're bringing me around. That's not a bad idea. I know. We put up the tree yesterday. And the worst day is like Sunday or Monday.

Monday is the worst day that I agree. And Saturday. I'm on Wednesdays. Wednesdays. All right. I vote. I vote Wednesdays. We had we just put our, we put our tree and our, um, lights up yesterday. What in the world? I know. We're those people. We're those people. Look, Kim, Kim was like, she did no decorating for Halloween. Usually we do something. We didn't do any. Um, although we did have, you know, we did costumes and had fun on the day, but we didn't do anything prior. And she, she, she, she, especially post-panded. pandemic just loves Christmas in a way that I don't remember ever seeing her love Christmas. So she's like, I'm doing it early and I don't care who says anything. She also has like a grandkid and like not, she's not buying a thousand dollar Legos now. She can buy like the $20. Yeah, the cheap Legos.

Yeah, that's true. She's in a good stage. Yeah, it is a good stage for me and her. And anyway, it's nice. Very festive in the front area there where you walk in. It's like, oh, the tree. It's nice. Oh, Thanksgiving.

Screw you. Yeah, screw you Thanksgiving. Anyway, so there's that. It's good to have you back. We're going to dive into a somewhat difficult topic. Or, you know, for some people, it's going to be, I guess, a warning. I don't know how much trigger warning people need for this. But we're going to talk about abandonment.

And that often means, hey, your parents were either horrible or they left you or they straight up just ignored you or, you know, it's one of those kinds of discussions. And for those new to the show, and you're wondering why we're doing it. this. Wendy's an actual therapist. She comes here on Thursdays and helps people with real golfers. Why are you guys doing this? Wendy just has some feelings she wants to share. Poop jokes. I mean, it must be. It would be weird for a new listener because if they don't know any better, it'd be like, oh,

here's my sister. We just talked about holidays and now she's going to help us with abandonment issues. Like, it seems weird. So I have to explain myself. You get new listeners? This is funny. I just assume it's the same people for 11 years. Well, it's probably the same thing. Yeah. It's the safe thing. All right, let's get to it. This is a very short message slash email that I got for somebody. I'm going to keep them anonymous, but I think it's enough to kick us off in the direction we want to go. And it goes like this. I have major abandonment issues. My mother gave up, gave up on me as a teenager. Dad kicked me out after high school, after an issue with my mom. I always feel like I need to perform my best and not waiver

or people will pick up and leave, signed anonymous. So short and to the point. I thought it'd be a good place to go or to start with the just the whole concept of abandonment and what that even means because it doesn't i'm sure it's more nuanced than people think it's not just simply my dad disappeared one night when he said he was going to go out and get a pack of cigarettes or whatever the old story is it's it's more that's totally nelson months his dad isn't it it's absolutely yeah um but uh what you know there's more to it than that and sometimes abandonment can happen and you'll still live there till you're 18 but they've just given up on you or don't, you know,

you kind of wish you would never happen or whatever. Yeah, I've got an abandonment story that I can share that is not at all the bad kind of thing. Sharon, what is it? Tristan was in elementary school. We were here living in the house we're in now, and it was about 2003, 2004. So Tristan maybe was about six, maybe, five or six.

And he was old enough to go to the bus stop himself, obviously. And but we would pick him up after school or he'd take the bus from school over to a kind of care and he'd hang out there until we were off of work. Because at that point, I was still working in an office in Boulder. And what we didn't realize, or I'd take that back, not that we didn't realize it, but it was take your kid to work day. and neither of us had the ability to take him to work. But we all knew that, and we checked and said, oh, yeah, buses will still be running, school will still be going on, all that stuff.

So Tristan made his way towards the bus stop, but didn't see anybody there and immediately thought, oh, no, I've missed the bus. Crap. So he got all the way out there, and then he turned around and came back. Well, by that point, both of us had left for work. and so he was here at the house.

He basically sat on the porch swing, our back porch swing. He was kind of going to wait it out, I guess, for a while, and ate his lunch at 7 o'clock in the morning because he didn't have anything else to do. Oh, and he's locked out, right? Like, he's kicked in. He's locked out. There's no way to get in the house. And for whatever reason, he didn't go to the neighbors. Neighbors would have been happy to help him out, get a hold of us, whatever.

Then he decided he was going to take it upon himself to why. the mile to Kindercare himself and cross a very busy street in the process of doing that. And so he did that. He got there. They called us.

I left work immediately, went down, picked him up and hung out with him. But for a long time after that, he had some fear of abandonment issues. Oh, interesting. That really stuck with him then.

For a few years after that. And it was difficult to kind of get past that, like, you know, we, Tina and I'd always need to be around him. He was less likely to do things independently if it took him further away from us. So, you know, we had to walk him to the bus stop a few for a few months after that, for example. Things like that. So, yeah, I can absolutely relate to abandonment issues that aren't triggered by a parent just leaving, up and leaving, or neglecting their child.

This was a completely honest mistake that just was the perfect storm of bad things all happening. So it's like home alone without the nutty hijinks, basically. Right, exactly, yes, exactly. And without the distracted mom not counting the correct number of kids. Yeah. Right. So that's interesting. I, A, never knew that, but B, hadn't really considered the impact something like that would have and imagine how much worse it would be if you just didn't care about your kids.

and you just dumped them somewhere. It's a really, it's a perfect example of like the basic fundamental process that happens that it's not about intent at all, right? So that's a great example because it shows just one time and how long it takes to get over it because it is really biological. So I'm going to go through the explanation of what happens to us when this type of thing happens And then we'll extrapolate to to this person who is, I mean, in very significant ways his parents have said, we're done with you or, you know, those type of things. And so obviously that's going to be different.

It's going to, in its intensity and other things. But so that story is a really great one because it's you're a kid, you're living your life, you walk to the bus stop because, you know, you've gained this amount of independence. There's feeling good about it. the fact that he would go back to the house, you know, he's making kid decisions. He's fine. He's like, no listener. I'm going to eat my sandwich. What are my other options?

You know, all of those things and no kid's going to make, right, maybe the best decisions. But that is what starts to happen when I'm alone. I'm scared. What am I going to do? And we talked last week about the amygdala and the cortex a little bit of so you're, he's alone. He's freaked out. And then the cortex is like, what are we going to do?

What are we going to do? And they start to come up with a five-year-old plan, which includes walking to daycare and crossing that street and all of that good stuff. Okay, so that is all happening at the time he is alone. So think of it is like his system is now alerted to I am physically, he may not have had this thought like someone could kidnap me or kill me, right? but plenty of kids probably do but he has the awareness that he is not totally safe doesn't know what he's doing obviously his brain is responding in this particular way so then he gets to a safe place and then you guys come and you do all the right things but that memory or that impression of not being cared for or safe at a particular stage in life that takes a while

to unwrite. It's like it's written on a blank paper. Absolutely. And now we're trying to erase it and it's got a dent. Like, oh, yeah, that's kind of in there, right? Which is why any parent who has forgotten to pick up their kid from school or whatever they've done, it's, you are like horrified that you would, something like this would happen because we as have all been children and we also have this sense of like, it's almost a

biological sense like oh no that's not good you know like this and then we just really hope they're fine and we kind of and it's because on some level we fundamentally know that that's dangerous so we we can go back to sort of original human behavior and that is you know you're in a tribe your your your community is what keeps you alive safe and fed and if you wander away from that you are now there's a threat you're going to be eaten by a lion someone from another tribe's going to kill you Like, you're not okay. Yeah. And so we are built around that dynamic.

We are hunter-gatherer early homo sapiens who will die if we are abandoned. We will die. And so that's why our system responds so intensely around these things, right? And, okay, so that's the fundamentals of what's happening. So then how does that look throughout a life? Okay, let's say you and Tina were like, that too bad kid walk to the

what's stuff the next day you know yeah it gives you a character toughing you up yeah and the truth is historically that's kind of how it's been treated but and and I would

I would just like to rip on America for a minute do it let it let it rip maybe you should do trigger warnings if you're like super pro American then don't

you got to just plug ears for a second we are as a nation so bad with trauma we are we cannot handle it listen to the way we talk about stuff we're like we're gonna I don't know just the rhetoric of like it's all fighting tough and war and like I don't know beat this whenever anything hard happens like rub some dirt in it sort of bad attitude yeah put butter

on it and quit your wine and like there that is that is very built into our ethos and wait a minute did you just say rub some butter on it and keep what what do you butter what's the what's the butter happened? Here's an example of when you marry into a family who has a phrase every time anyone's hurt in Adam's family, they just say put butter on it. Really? I love it. It's like a joke. Especially a burn. It's like the worst thing you can do is put butter on a burn. And so the joke is if you're hurt you put butter. Oh, that's funny. Because I remember hearing that at one point that you put butter on a burn. Yeah. And it really is the worst thing. And Adam's brother's an ER doctor. And so it's always from him. And he's the

funniest one in the family. And so he's always just saying whatever weird stuff. And so when a professional medical emergency room person says, just put butter on your broken leg, it's funny. Yeah. So I just came out. Sorry. Anyway, I agree. It is funny. It's hilarious. I'm going to use it for now. Just rub some butter on it. Put some butter on it. Yeah. You're fine. Anyway, I forgot what was even saying, America. We suck at trauma. Oh, yeah. We're bad at it. There you know, medical remedies. Yeah. We suck at a lot of things. Well, and so instead of, you know, dealing with the actual cause of you know 9-11

and the things that are going on we're going to just go destroy a couple countries like we are we have a problem and you know what when like we can mourn for a hot minute together but not really and then we oh yeah it's frustrating

and I could go on okay so there's that and that's kind of because I think everyone's been a little bit abandoned there's a bit of how does it look to to be abandoned and we're using this word because this is a core so everybody has a couple core wounds if they have wounds and almost 100% time there's an abandonment wounds somewhere um well that's

interesting yeah and it's because it's so fundamental to humanity right so what we have found and here's an example and please let me make this very clear i am not blaming parents that's also American hobby is to blame parents for everything and judge each other. So that's not what I'm doing here. But for example, and this is why it's so crucial to get postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis or anything that happens psychosocially emotionally to the mother, which is why we have no freaking paid family leave. Let me just remind you why we don't feel safe in this country. And so you have a postpartum, a depression, a mother with depression, and she is interacting with a baby and not emotionally available or capable and is not getting the help and is doing

it alone and then has six weeks before she has to go back to work, right? Like we have created such a system that there's not a lot of help in that department. So this young, young baby is getting what emotion this mother can offer and maybe it's not a lot. And so you can have very early messages of abandonment, right? Even though that is not her intention and it is not her fault. It's just happening. And the kid doesn't choose any of this. And it's just I look at the face of the person caring for me to see if I'm safe and okay.

So very, very early. So we have a couple of instincts, right? And I've talked about this before. We have the instinct to suck. So we eat and don't starve. And then we have the falling reflex, which is being dropped because we'll die. Right. And I think both of those things.

are related to this abandonment uh potentiality right not being fed neglected dropped killed okay so really fundamental to all of us so it's really easy to find it in everybody um and everyone has a little one probably um the bigger the more your symptoms start to show up in in certain ways so we can talk about that in a second um narcissism i think is we haven't talked much about people don't write it and say i'm a narcissist help me um i love that if any narcissist are living listen please send us. Oh, I'm too good at being a narcissist. I don't need any help. I know. It's so funny. And also, anyone has a jerky ex-boyfriend. He's definitely a narcissist. So come on. One of you guys. That's how we armchair everybody is like if he's a jerk, he's a narcissist. But narcissism is a great example of a pretty deep abandonment wound or we call him narcissists wounds. And that is where like maybe not getting enough actual love attention, maybe neglect. There's some other things. coming at a person with just the right personality and sometimes we end up with narcissism.

I don't know if you've met anyone who has the right personality to be a narcissist, but doesn't and isn't. And that's because they probably weren't wounded. So there's some fun mixes of this and it shows up in lots of different ways. That's kind of an extreme way. But for many people, it could be just sort of unknown fear or unexplainable fears. Anxiety can be an example of some of this abandonment, you can have relationships where you're like really anxious in that connection or sort of ambivalent. You can have some different attachment styles that occur because of abandonment. And again, your parents are the first people who could possibly abandon you, right? So they're pretty foundational to this. And then you can have this throughout your

life. You can be abandoned emotionally a different time. So everyone can relate to this feeling, right where you are someone was supposed to come and they didn't um you know someone made a promise and they it fell through there these are all sort of branches of maybe this core i'm maybe not safe feeling maybe a little unlovable and not protect it sure like if you're in a you know long-term relationship and then you there's an there's an abandonment quality to just getting dumped right like that's yeah the same same sort of thing and if you if you if you've if you come to the table, I guess this is where maybe this is all headed, if you come to that table with the feeling that, oh, no, I'll probably get dumped here too, that's when things get

to be a problem where you think everything is going to abandon you. Like no trust, you start. Yeah. And then you accidentally create scenarios because you're not trusting and you're not open that will almost guarantee you get abandoned or neglected or. rejected again and that is the vicious cycle of this right so it sounds like this email let's get to the email so it sounds like this emailer has had clearly issues with mom and mom had mom made a decision at some point that I'm out and then whatever was occurring later was the reason dad said

now get out of the house so we've got some obviously strained relationship ties from I would assume much younger than just that moment when mom decided to take off. And so maybe there is a buildup to this moment. It'd be one thing. And this is, here's an example of like someone getting in a car accident damaging their frontal lobe or something and really changing personalities. That absolutely happens.

And that person then abandons you happens, right? And so you have all this good safe stuff and that comes along and that's really hard. Of course, I don't want to downplay. that but to have it throughout your relationship with someone um just has bigger implications the other story is you know you have more of a foundation to work with um in your own life that makes it a little more resilient right um can make you more resilient but when it you've had this your whole life and i'm assuming that i don't know the answer to that but i'm assuming

that to by the end of high school both of your parents are out of your life is really intense. And you are changing and hormonal and growing and you don't know what the heck is going on and you're probably fighting back and rebelling or whatever you're doing. And that's not your grown you self yet. So you are getting rejected at pretty vulnerable stages.

So what can happen is whenever this rejection sort of gets started, whatever it may be, the abandonment kind of shows up, there can be some developmental stickiness. So you may have reactions that seem like a 17, 18 year old or a reaction that seems like you're 5 years old or 10 years old. That's sometimes how as therapists we can kind of push back it through time to kind of find where things have started is some of the reactivity seems developmentally appropriate for a 10 year old when you're 40 and you're like, whoa, okay, what happened when you're 10? Or people will describe, I feel I'm throwing a tantrum. They can feel these feelings of like I'm internally throwing a tantrum. So sometimes it's

like a little roadmap to the ages where some of this stuff might have occurred. Because there's some stickiness that happens when you have this type of wound or pain at a certain stage. So this person is on living life. I'm making up stuff now because I don't know. Okay. But I'm assuming they're living their life and have a job and get a paycheck and maybe have some relationships. And I'm assuming throughout their relationships, there's sort of landmines they see, they feel that they're dancing around that represent potential rejection or potential abandonment. So it could be that my boss is always mad at me or it could be. So like in my field, like I'd say something to someone that, you know, sometimes I'm saying things that are hard to hear and that person might just be

like okay bye and then like our next session we got to process it through but you imagine i got a week to sit with how they responded to a thing that i said yeah um and i could just be like oh you know like you can see where all of that i'm so afraid would show up in my work and so for you guys it might be that you don't produce a thing that everybody loves and oh no no one's going to pay you now or you know or whatever it might be so whatever this person's life is like i can imagine imagine there are facets of it that have been wrapped around. There are landmines I have to avoid. And then if I accidentally trip any of them, I'm so afraid someone will take off.

What's the difference thing? This and like imposter syndrome. Yeah, you can see sort of the overlap. And sometimes imposter syndrome will be absolutely related to this. And this is why parsing everything back to, I mean, I don't know what this makes me existentialist, a fundamentalist. Those are not the right words. But just like a originalist, oh, I'm making up all the words.

Yeah, look at you. This is great. Yeah. Where I feel like these very core innate needs of humans, the more I work with humans, the more they really boil down to abandonment, lovability. And, oh, no, I'm forgetting the third one. Oh, worthiness, which they're really intertwined, right? So when I work with anyone, their wounds usually relate to, am I good enough?

Am I lovable? Am I worthy? And, you know, if there's abandonment, then those are always up for grabs, right? Because who tells you you're lovable and worthy? Well, the person looking in your face for the first time before you have language. Who's telling you're lovable and worthy? The teacher who is either helping you or yelling at you, you know? So you have all these faces in your life that tell you if you're good enough.

and okay enough based on how they're reacting to you, which is a rough measuring stick because everyone's got stuff going on, you know? But it does create sort of patterns and creates sort of a sense of yourself. So here we are later in life. This person's probably got managing a lot, right? Like handling it, like probably having some relationships, probably doing some things. But with always this shadow that at any minute, I can. and lose this thing because this person's already experienced it.

Sure. And so it's written on that page. And so the advice is get someone to help you do with this because you're going to run out of electrolytes. I mean, that's not the right term. But like you're going to run out of steam managing that everyone may abandon you and your job and your family and your health and your life. Like this is when we talk about midlife crises, I really wish we could rename it to

I'm into semantics today, but I really wish we could rename it to like, oh, sweet, now it's time. Think about stuff and here's some help and we all are in this together and you're great. And really, do you want to keep doing this? Oh, maybe you do. Okay. Hey, let's work on your relationships. Make sure they're healthy and maybe you want to end them. Okay, all right.

That's a thing. But like we act. It's like a shame and it's bad. And then people do worse things because of that versus this is developmentally normal to wonder. about how do I want to spend the next half of my life as well as, but the truth is you run out of steam carrying the demons around that you had from your first half of your life. And so that would be my advice to this person is if this is exhausting you now, which it must, right? Then let somebody help you. Let somebody help you sort through this and repair what can be repaired and, you know,

live with the scars of things instead of sort of the, you know, pussy wound of the thing. And by that, there is a very big difference. And by that, I assume you mean therapy, right? Somebody who can help you walk through this that isn't, you know, just you and your mom. Your uncle. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah. No, yeah, sure.

Or if you, if there is someone in your life who can help you do this, it's not a therapist, good for you. Yeah. Just because it really goes deep. And there's another thing that a therapist can do. And whoever's new to the show is like, is this just a therapy promotion gig? And it is. It's a book of the week promotion. Here's a book.

Yeah. Sorry about that. I mean, because I do think a lot of things don't need to go to therapy. But this is one that's so fundamental. And we just don't have anything in society. Remember, at least if you're American, trauma is not even a thing. So too bad for you. so it's really tough to have people in your life that are doing well with their own stuff

and when they are you know it and that's great but they will also just refer you to a therapist because they know they can't actually help you because they've done their work right so but here's what the therapist's relationship can create for someone who's had abandonment in their life is there is a pseudo um that's not the right word but just basically a a vicarious bond relationship you can create with your therapist and this is why there needs to be a good fit because you are going to risk trusting this person and you're going to risk that this person could abandon you while you tell them your deepest, deepest stuff, right? And so that actual practice is incredibly healing. And for a time, you're kind of over attached to your therapist and

eventually there's a healthy separation that can happen and a lot of therapists are prepared for that, especially if this is the kind of work that they do. And so you get to actually practice someone hearing you, caring about you, listening to all the things and helping you dig and sort that won't

abandon you. And this is why therapists have to be so careful with schedules and when, like, I don't know if you know this, but therapists also sometimes have babies so they need maternity leave. And different aspects, like just taking breaks or even just stopping their practice,

all together because sometimes they stop that's really we have to be so careful negotiating these things because we often have relationships with clients that we are this attachment figure because they have been abandoned so much and so we have to be really careful how to do that not easy but that that is the value of this here and so I know that sounds scary that's like walking right into the fire of the thing you're trying to never go to but like we were talking about with phobias last week or anxiety in general, the only cure is to go to the fear. And in this case, it's sort of the only cure is to work through some of these broken attachments and find that there is security in. And here's the thing. It's not that the therapist can be perfect or your spouse or your

children and there will be no abandonment again. We can guarantee there'll be abandonment. We can't control anyone else. That's not what this is about. It's about. putting together the puzzle inside, I have 80 analogies going, now putting the puzzle inside of yourself, figuring out what you're capable of handling and how to heal so that if someone one day chooses to abandon you, you have you. The problem is when you're so young and some of these abandonment things start happening, you don't have you, right? And so it's piecing it together so you have you. And then you can handle the other things that are coming at you and the potential of any because everyone abandon you eventually because you'll die or they'll die.

So that's very grim. But it's also true and it is about working through your stuff so that you can handle those things when they do come. Well, here's an interesting side note. I happen to know this person and I know that they are extreme the other direction in terms of their loyalty to those in their immediate life. to their spouse kids like this isn't one of those the cycle continues situations this is the reverse of that this is somebody who's actively working really hard to never be that to

anyone else um i don't know if that changes any kind of advice we'd give here but to me that seems like a really good sign and i know that even though all of that's true it's really hard to shake that feeling that people could leave you or that you've been abandoned or whatever but that helps right like yeah well and it's probably some form of compensation too that's not not it's a good form of compensation not yeah not a negative like a bad form of compensation is to be sort of hermitized and go live and hate everyone like that's the easiest way to never get abandoned right and that we would probably all agree it's not the healthy version but this is probably the healthy version of compensating is really overextending yourself making sure you're you are a conflict

free zone all the time and I don't know if they are but just like you can imagine doing like going way beyond to try to make sure none of that ever happens which is also kind of exhausting and so what is there is there a happier healthier place to be and the answer is 99% of the time yes for all of us right sure um and so maybe it's just that for some relief right there still have these close connections. But if they didn't have to try so hard and had energy for other things, or that fear was gone, you know, you can just think of a whole life you can live without that string. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, I hope this helps. I know this person has struggled with it for a long time. And I don't know. I just feel like I feel like we can hopefully point them in the right direction.

Hopefully we have today. So follow up and let us know. We'd like to know how you're doing and how things went and uh if any of you at home have like specific experiences that you think we could expand upon send those emails into us the morning stream at gmail.com or any of your therapy Thursday questions we are happy to talk about them right here on the show uh Wendy anything else going on right now it's just November yeah it is November you guys aren't coming out here at all right this is a year you know because we just saw you all this summer I guess but um yes we may come in the spring I think I mean, if you could hurry up with your snow production. We'd like to, yeah, we'll get on that.

We'd, I mean, whatever. There's some meteorologists here locally that think that we're on our way to becoming a tropical zone. Yeah, well, it's like supposed to be 66 or 70 degrees today here in Colorado. So people didn't get the memo that it's November. Yeah, and supposedly everything east of the Rockies is supposed to be having a cold front. But yet there's Brian having a nice balmy day. We're doing okay.

Like, I don't know, man. Well, let me say this. It has been for sure the hottest October on record here. And every day, I keep thinking, like, am I in Utah? It feels like this should be. I mean, we're now at like 50 degrees, which is, this is pretty warm for us. Yeah, it is for that part of the country. And just not, I mean, we've had rain once in the last four weeks.

It's not normal. Like, we're in a drought here, too. So I don't know. It's weird. Well, if you come here, great. But I haven't heard Duluth, Minnesota is a great place to locate for a climate change because you got, it's just like it'll, it'll just be pleasant. Really? Yeah, you guys will roast to death and we'll just be pleasant.

The only, the only experience I have with Duluth is like a season of Fargo spent a lot of time in Duluth. And that's about all I know about the place. So I should probably go out there and see. Duluth, if you want to just see Sweden and America, go to Duluth. it has such similar, even the architecture or, and then like the rocks and the water and the temperature and the, it's really similar. It's all Swedish immigrants though, right? Like that whole area.

Oh, yeah. They all came and went, oh, yeah, this is home. See ya. Yeah. And then they were like, it's not cold. It's not cold enough for going back. No, it's cold enough. That's hilarious.

All right. Anyway, November, swimming any day in November. Name the song. Come on. Wake me up when September ends. Nope. Swimming every day in November? November.

Hey, November. No, you know what it is? It's a death cap for cutty. Not death cap for cut. It's fallout boy. Those are the two I get confused all the time. Maybe it's death cap for cute. No, it's not the shins.

It's not. Who is it? I don't know. Somebody in the chat room. Help me. You know, you can swim any day in November. Yeah, nobody's the day in November. Oh, my gosh.

Someone Google it for the love. Wendy, Wendy knows your, what was it? That's a good one, though. What was it? Was it, Brian? What'd you say? Oh, there was a song called Sweeter Weather, and I'm wondering if that sounds like it could be lyrics from that. Here, real quick, my husband and my son would be mortified that I attempted to make a musical reference because I'm so bad at it. No, I found it. So I'm going to take it back. I found it. Postal service. That's who it is.

Oh, my gosh. How embarrassing. Oh, well, there you go. I mean, that's your death cap for QD connection, right? Thank you. I knew. And also, don't tell my family they will be not allowed. be on the show again. Wendy's knowledge of like college alternative has now been challenged. It's been weakened and we're going to have to let Adam know. Yes, please do. I'm failing at it. Okay. Well, thanks, guys. Hopefully no one gets abandoned. Yeah. Don't get abandoned everybody. And Wendy, have a great week and we'll see you next time with more hard hitting something. Bye now. All right. Well, there you go. That was good stuff. I hope the person who I know is in the chat even today

is got some mad at that. I know I did. Yeah, for sure. All right, Brian. I know Tristan listens to the show too, so hopefully. Further confirmation that it was all a mistake, Tristan. We didn't mean to. Right, exactly.

We didn't mean to about it, yo. The story I didn't tell was the only real, the only place I ever got close to this was in a mall with my daughter, Taylor, and she was like his age, like five years old or something. and we're in a department store of some sort and I'm thinking okay well she's right here

so I'm good to be like flipping through these clothes and looking at stuff and I turn away for a second I look back and she is gone just like poof nowhere or parents' worst nightmare like for sure yeah what am I going to do did someone take her who do I talk to like what do I

and I start panicking and I start freaking out and I'm like I'm going to go talk to the manager and figure this out and I was there alone with her and then I hear this voice from inside one of the clothes things going te he he he he yeah one of those is it one of the circular ones yes

yes which are perfectly they perfectly house a hiding child you know yes so I go digging in there and of course she's in there laughing her head off I'm so mad because I felt like I had done the worst possible parental turn your head the wrong moment thing

and she thought it was hilarious because she's a kid she doesn't know of course yes But anyway, so she's fine. I'm the one who's freaked out now. All right. Hey, a reminder, tomorrow at 2pm, we are doing the play date that we put off because of trips and stuff and Internet outages and all of that. We're finally back to it.

So we're going to finally crack open the 8th edition of the Jackbox party set and play some of those games. We keep hearing Job, Jobs, amazing. Job, we got to still do the Druffel animate, whatever. Yep, whatever that's called. And all that. So that's tomorrow at 2 p.m. mountain time right here at frogpants.tv. And Brian and I'll be there, of course, with probably Monica will hang out and be a... She's part of that tomorrow, right? I hope.

I think so. Yeah. She's got two weddings to go to this weekend, or this month. But hopefully this one doesn't fall into conflict. Yeah, it should be good. So I'm really looking forward to that. I hope you guys are as well. That's tomorrow 2 p.m. right here on the Twitch channel. A quick reminder that our Patreon need your help. people like Mark Jackson, Jason Miller, and Aaron Wace, their recent jump-ons as well. We got Mark at the grade A level, the $5 grade A plus level, we got Jason. And same with Aaron, amazing folks.

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He says, I heard these guys play at a pirate festival, and I've loved their music ever since. Plus, they're local to me here in Columbus, Ohio, signed Captain Ed. Now, Ed, the song you chose isn't a cover. I did a little research, and maybe I didn't find the right thing, but the song you linked to was not a cover. but I'll play another cover by the same band. This one is sort of a cover. You'll know what I mean when you hear it. This is from their 2017 album A Pirates Life.

And it's the title track. And as you might guess, it is sort of a cover of the song from Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean ride, although they changed some lyrics. So it's new as well. Here's the band Brave the Sea with their cover of A Pirates Life. Nice reminder tonight, Core at 5 p.m. And tomorrow, the instance at 10 a.m. As well as, oh, there's no there will be done as this weekend.

We're on a break after our finale, but that's coming back soon. Anyway, if you have any questions about any of that, check out the calendar over at frogpants.com. That's going to do it for us. We'll see you guys tomorrow and Monday. Yo-ho, yo-ho, a pirate's life from me. on a shoreline of the sea I got up and I looked around me

Captain ship could not be found I guess we already took around just forgot all about me But that's okay I guess it's fair I did you give in the Captain's hair But I still got some room left to keep me company But even if the Scali work Come back to save me soul

We'll drink the ocean dry And then we'll sail until we're old singing Yo ho, yo ho! A pirate's life for me Yo ho! Yo ho! A pirate's life for me! Billy yelled to me from the master Philips Brigg. We made a course so brave and both a vinyl monster's humans,

but we looked for food and this for us, and then we did set tail. And that we had, so not so truth, but let us do the fountain of youth, but we are all rejoined because it's really made a veil. That even though we didn't find a speck of gold to spend, I'm okay with Bill and give me life without an end saying, and yo-ho! Yo-ho! Yo-ho! Yo ho! Yo ho!

Oh, yah! Myron fly for me! The night we celebrate for me! The night we celebrated and the captain was to say, without a final druid which I wished to wait the waiting. waste away, singing, yo-ho, yo, yo, ho, pirate's life for me. You, ho, yo, yo, ho, virus life for me. You, oh, yo, ho, virus life from me.

You, ho, yo, ho, virus life for me. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Dead meat.