The Morning Stream - TMS 2204: Such a Boney Bird

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

What Famous Dead Person do You Want? Nearly Strangled Nick. All About The Thanksgiving Shawarma. Get the nookie and put it on your cookie. It gives the Pink Stuff to the Baboon or it gets the hose again. There's Ones in January AND November. Just Stop Harvesting. GameCube Rice Cooker. Do a Booster in the Back. His name was Colt, he was a wrestler. I'd Have To Keep Him In A Room. I prefer a hard biscuit. Everything is Browner on the other side. Rolling in the grass with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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There's ones in January and November. Just stop harvesting. GameCube rice cooker. Do a booster in the back. His name was cold. He was a wrestler. I'd have to keep him in a room. I prefer a hard biscuit.

Everything is browner on the other side. Rolling the grass with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. We hear, Batman. What now? Riddler tricked us. I don't see no antidote. Kim can't call me stupid and get away with it. It's a penis.

The morning stream. I got a thing about chickens. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to TMS. It's the morning stream for November 11th, 2021. Happy Skyrim Day, for real. 11-11, baby. Yeah, it's good to be here.

Also, it's the month we started the show. Wait, hold on. No, we started in January. You're right. We did January. Why do I always think it's November? Why is November? Because there's ones in January and there's ones in November.

And I am but a simple man. Only reminded by small and easy to read numbers. Yeah, we're back and we're here. It's Thursday. Welcome everybody to the show. I'm Scott, and that's Brian. Hi, Brian. Good morning. Hi, Scott. How are you? Happy Skyrim Day and happy Veterans Day.

Oh, yeah, Veterans Day, Remembrance Day. That's a thing today. A lot of shows, podcast people that I know are taking it off. Like Tom, DT&S is not happening today, for example. Amateur. That's why we're in the Hall of Fame and Tom's not. Yeah, partly that, but also because those people kind of stopped doing that, didn't they? Didn't they stop? What are they doing now? Yeah, I don't know. They did a new, like, they tried to create a new podcast academy.

Yeah. And there was so much blowback from everybody that, um, that were in the Hall of Fame, the previous Hall of Fame. So it's like, oh, okay. So, yeah, podcastacademy.com doesn't even, like, gives a forbidden error. Uh-oh. So I didn't even know what's going on there. Well, you know, this is the problem with the awards thing?

We decided to create a brand new baseball hall of fame and only have new. yeah we're going to reset everything uh forget about that yeah like the whole point of a hall of fame is that it's kind of permanent that's the idea yeah exactly apparently they uh it looks like 2018 uh which featured the art of wrestling with colt cabana great great um it's the last one listed on here i don't even know who that is Dave jackson should I know who that is is that a famous wrestler Keith and the girl oh Keith and the girl are involved okay so podcast Allie back It was the same, you know, year that you were inducted. Oh, that was that year.

Okay. So, wait, who's this wrestling guy? I know if you would have shown up to the hall of the ceremony, you would have seen these people. If I'd have freaking been there. What was the, what's that wrestler's name again? Colt Cabana? Colt Cabana.

Should I know who that is? Someone help me here. I have no idea who that is. Listen, you know what I heard about Jericho is when I walked up on stage to accept my award from Jericho. Oh, right. The lady kept muttering, this isn't right. Who's the, this guy again? What's this funny hat guy?

What's the funny hat guy doing up here again? Oh, that year, dude. That was such a great year. What was that? 2013, 14? I can remember. Yeah, there's something like that. Yeah, and we just collected every, between you, me, the night attack guys, and, what was it, the instance?

We kind of in film sec. I think we just cleaned up. We had everything that we could qualify for. We won. So if we were in a. category we won that category that year and it pissed them off real bad it did it was great because the guy from iHeart radio the head guy from i heart radio came uh um came up to me after the thing yeah right came up to me after the event and i'm sitting here with like 18 awards and mizzula's

taking pictures of me like mock trying to carry them all and he comes up to me and he says should i know you Oh, man, we could be on the IHeart radio lineup by now, damn it? I know, exactly. We could be giving medical advice to quarterbacks across the country. We didn't do anything weird. We won fair and square. We just really, we just activated the audience.

We just got everyone super excited and engaged. What we did is we made it easy for our listeners who are huge fans of the stuff we produce. We made it easy for them to vote for us. We didn't stuff the ballot box. we didn't um there were no multiple uh votes there were no dead people voting we didn't even we did the equivalent of of helping get people to the polls who didn't have a way to get to the that's right we picked up a bunch of old ladies and drove them down to the chapel that's what we did and it was great and we did uh you know we did really well and that that just about seismically

changed everything about those awards so kind of did we left it into uh turned it into a labor of not love for todd cocker no i remember a lot more of a labor of a more of a labor of I don't know if I'd call it a labor of love after this year. Oh, poor Todd. I guess he's still doing this. I don't know. Yeah, I think he can't. I think he's having a hard time unloading the podcast award.

Not unloading, but basically finding somebody who'll do it the way he wants them to do it. When was the last? Oh, well, there was the 2021 people's choice podcast or the 2021 podcast awards happened. which, you know, one of the categories is named after me. So, you think that I'd kind of be aware. Is it still yet there, there is the Coverville Potson music category. That's great. That's great.

I do like the fact that there's a new category called 2021 podcast influencer of the year. Yeah, I don't like that one. No, here are your influencers. Amy Porterfield of Marketing Made Easy, Breen Brown from unlocking us and dare to lead. Smith from Smodcast, Tim Ferriss from the Tim, or as he types it on here, the Time Ferris show. Yeah.

And finally, your, you're remaining a podcast influencer of the year, Joe Rogan from the Joe Rogan experience. Got it. Well, yeah. So now you can. And I'm noticing, and the rule still stands, I guess, if you've won a bunch of, they don't let you in anymore, right? Yeah, we're a legacy.

Yeah, they don't include us in anything anymore. They don't like us. Todd does literally does not like us. Yeah, is he, I don't know if he's. I'd be curious to see if he is still involved. Yeah, he may not be running it. I don't know. But the fact that I hadn't heard about it at all means they didn't get the word out very well.

I don't hear shit. No, I know. For podcasters, we had to look up the website to see if it still happened. And apparently it did. Yeah. And even if your legacy, you're not going to grow your thing or gain interest in it or even get exposure for these small shows that win without everybody getting excited and getting stoked around it.

And they have this weird insular thing going on. It's just weird. It's very weird. They do have a bunch of new categories, best blank hosted podcast. So best male hosted, best female hosted, best black hosted,

best Spanish hosted, and best Asian hosted podcast. Nice. I know what I'm always doing. Apple podcast wins the podcast listening platform. That's interesting. Boy, those categories, though, okay, not to be rude.

But don't those categories sound like things no one cares about? I don't mean the Asian one and stuff, but I mean like best podcast app for, who cares? Yeah, yeah, podcast listening platform. Yeah, it is, it does feel like a way to grease the palms of sponsors. It's just weird. I mean, Stitcher didn't win, podcast addict, Pandora, Overcast. Well, Talley, they already have a, what do they have in there? They have something.

Oh, they do have a LGBT category, yes. Right. They've had that for years, so I think this is new. Because of who's won it so much, it's now called the Feast of Fool slash Fun LGBTQ category. Wow. See, Coverville, I get. It makes sense. Coverville, it's a famous music thing, but I don't know.

Right. I do like this one, too. Rob has a podcast entertainment category. Well, he did win a lot, so I guess. He can win a lot, so he deserves to have his name on it, but it's just funny the way that that one comes out. Like, oh, Rob has a podcast entertainment category. Good for Rob. Oh, DeAngel Day Newman, you got me. Best Squarespace ad read of the year goes, too.

That's great. It's really good. Well, it certainly isn't going to be those ones you hear at the beginning of YouTube videos. They're like so nasal. I really enjoy selling from my Squarespace account. Listen, I know they'll be sponsored. They were sponsors at one point. At one point, they'll be sponsors again.

Oh, they love Squarespace. Those guys have been around forever. They need people with better microphones or better speaking ability for their pre- YouTube, pre-roll. They also need to fix their tools. Their tools are getting a little long in the tooth. Yeah, and if I hear, what if you could change the world with your mind? Yeah. What if telekinesis was real?

That's as much as I get through before that skip ads finally comes up. Yeah. What if you could single-handedly change the world with one website? It's like, shut up. All right. Hey, I got a question here. They got a question here from a listener. This is from Kerr-Nichols, which sounds like Kernnuckles, which is a character from a show that was on Cartoon Network.

I forget the name of it. The Something Adventures of Flipflap or something. As old as I am, I think of Kinnecky from the movie musical Greece. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Oh, Flapjack is Talley. Thank you. It's the amazing adventures or misadventures of Flapjack.

And the character is Kernuckles, Captain Kernuckles. And he's this weird turd-looking character who is played by the voice of Brian Doyle Murray, the old Murray brother. And he's great. He's a fantastic. It's a great show. Anyway, but Kernichols, which may be a reference to that, wrote in and says, Hey, starch and burlopad. That's a new one.

If you guys can pick one famous dead person to haunt your house, who would it be? Brian, who would you want haunting your house if you could say, all right, well, so-and-so's dead. He'd be great walking the halls of my place. First one that comes to mind is Marilyn Monroe. I'd like to have Marilyn Monroe come and hunt my house. Oh, my gosh. Do you think she'd do?

She'd sing to you while wind blows her skirt up there. She'd like every day I'd wake up to, Happy birthday. Mr. Mr. Coverville. Chad says George Carlin. Clarke says Philip.

I don't know, man. I don't know who I'd want. Bowie. Bowie would be interesting. Brian, it's time for you to get up. Get out of your bed, Brian. Look, I'm making this picture of water float in the air. Ground control to Brian.

I mean, John Lennon, I don't know, John Lennon, I love John Lennon, and he's one of the people that, you know, if I could have dinner with any famous celebrity or any famous person alive or dead, John Lennon would be absolutely in the top two or three of that list. But as a ghost, I might take, I don't know. A comedian's not a bad idea. Like someone said Norm McDonald, I think I agree with that. the only difference would be I'd have to keep him in a room and he couldn't come out. You're North McDonald's a ghost.

Yeah, I don't want. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, you think you're using enough toilet paper there? Well, that's not a good ghost. Hold on see if I can find a better ghost sound. Oh, no, no, no, oh, oh, oh, tip, top, top. Doop, dip, dip, dip, dip. Oh, gee.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, that one's freaky. That was cool. That was cool. Jerry Seinfeld. He's not dead, though. Check. Check.

There we go. Here's your guns twice. All right. Give us Norm. Give us Norm. Yeah. Eh. That's my go-toe with Norm McDonald's.

That's my go-to of the Norm McDonald's. Hey, hey, you think. Hey, did you put enough sugar in your coffee? You get a little letterman in that, too. There's a lot of lettermen in there, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what famous dead person I want.

I really don't. Like, it'd have to be, okay, let's say it has to be somebody. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. You know what? Well, Jay, Nicole Brown Simpson says hi. and thanks for killing me and then Paul Schaefer on the other thing

like that exactly yes all right well I have no idea I have Nicole Smith that would be weird that would be weird right I don't know if I want her hanging around I don't think I want any of them actually

now that we talk about this why do I want any of this well I mean you know you have to have a ghost you're obligated to have a ghost Who's that ghost going to be? It feels like, yeah, you want somebody, you either want a comedian is a great idea, right?

Because then you'd be cracking up with the stuff they're saying, unless they're a silent ghost, in which case, that kind of sucks. Right, plus you get sick of certain comedians. If you've got, you know, Rodney Dangerfield walking around and going, I can't believe it, like you'd get tired of it all the time. There's always cold. That's right. You don't want Sam Kinnisson as your ghost either. Oh, my gosh, dude. No, that's a terrible idea.

So, yeah, like, I don't know. You'd get tired of those people. Maybe I want somebody. Maybe John Lennon's not a bad choice because he would really just want to kind of do his own thing. Maybe, I can't think of his name. Nelson Mandela. He'd have stuff to say. I could learn things from him.

Maybe Jim Henson I could hang out with, I think. Jim Henson, would he have ghost podcast? Muppets with them too. Oh, all the time. Yeah. But it'd be the two, it'd be Waldorf and Stattler or whatever their names are. Ghost versions of Waldorf and Stettler. From that Christmas movie going.

Marley and Marley, those guys. Oh, J.C. Calhoun, well done. Just tell Lennon, your name is Julian, and he'll avoid you. Oh. Oh, that's a deep cut. Oh, man. That's aware. What's Julian Lennon doing?

Is he around? He's definitely still around. I mean, like, is he doing stuff? Oh, wow, he got old. Yeah. I haven't paid attention to him in a long time, so it's been a bit. Let's see here. I think he's just kind of doing his own thing.

He's certainly not, I don't think he's releasing any music. Doesn't sound like he is. Pushing 60. Takes a lot of pictures of beautiful sunsets on his Instagram. Cool. Why is it telling me to look at Neil Diamond's account? That's great. Okay, fantastic.

All right. Whoa, that's not a Neil Diamond, is it? All right. That's a rabbit hole I didn't plan on going down. But Kernickles, your question clearly took us places. Oh, yes, it did. It took us some great places. Hope you enjoyed that.

Ben Franklin, that's not a bad one. But he'd probably, yeah, he'd want to talk about electricity and French ladies. That's all he'd want to do. Yeah, I mean, of all. your founding fathers is there is there a better choice than hamilton oh man like oh are you going to play that soundtrack again oh okay maybe Washington you know like Washington it'd be cool George Washington of the founding fathers yeah Lincoln Lincoln uh sure hold on let me think I guess Washington's not is Washington technically he's not a founding father he wasn't it he was a part of the signing or

anything right I think he was wasn't he George Washington signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and all that shit? I thought he did. Maybe he did. Yeah, we talk about all their slaves, exactly. We could really get into the contradiction. Actually, George Washington did not sign the Declaration of Independence. I think he's just a general that everyone liked, so they put him in charge.

Yeah. That's how that went. He has numbers up. We have moved the jury segment to now. You may actually be wondering where it is. You weren't here. We've already explained this. Justin is focused on other project.

Alexander Hamilton didn't sign it either. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, Lincoln would be all right. Yeah, Lincoln. Yeah, but you'd be distracted by that hole in his head the whole time. Because I assume that's how they come to. No, he's got a hat. He's got his little ghost hat.

Oh, okay. He could just put that over his head. Because that's like nearly strangled Nick or whatever's name was in the Harry Potter things where his head that was locked up. Nearly headless Nick, yeah. Nearly strangled. You know, I don't feel so bad about calling a Harry Potter thing. Harry Potter spell like a Carmelacciato or whatever I did earlier this week or last week.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you already, J.K. Grammer made that joke? Where did you make that? I missed it. So, all right. Well, there you have it. Oh, just real quick. Numbers up. Just sounds like you missed it. Justin's got a crap ton of projects night right now, and so his Tuesday segment is on pause. He's not doing it for a while. So we've shuffled things around so that all the days are covered. But nothing drastic or crazy or weird. He's doing fine. We all love each other. There's no...

Yeah, there's no weird. There's no feud. The, you know, the details about the feud are grossly exaggerated. We never have any drama outside you, you weirdos. Exactly. Right. It's all you and your all caps, bullshit. That narrowed it down

a little. And we also... We really like you, Claire, so we're kidding. We're kidding. All right. Hey, got one more thing here on turkeys. I just got this from Twitter. An anonymous person. I won't say their name. How can they be anonymous on Twitter?

Well, I don't want to give away who he is because this might incriminate it. Oh, they'd like to remain anonymous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not going to use the name. They sent me a DM. So I'm just going to assume. They slipped into your DMs. It says,

it was about our turkey talk yesterday about turkey shortages or whatever. He says, I'm not trying to cause a turkey panic, but I work in a grocery retail store. This will be hard. This will be a hard year for lots of stuff, not just turkey. If you want things for regular Thanksgiving, you can buy it now, but buy it now. Buy it now. I like that they say that twice. I don't think he, I think what he's

saying is do not wait until the week of Thanksgiving to get your stuff. So if you're, if you're, no, here's the, here's how I would look at this. That's true. I don't need a hundred percent traditional turkey, you know, stuffing, all the shit you get. I don't need that every time. If it came down to it and things were a little tight. And Kim said, hey, I'm going to make Schwarma instead. I'd be all about it. Be fine. You don't care.

The whole point is family and getting together. I love turkey, though. Turkey's great. I mean, yeah, it's all about family. But this is like the time of year where you have turkey. I love turkey. Don't get me wrong. Big fan.

But it ain't the end of the world if you can't get a turkey, you know. I guess what I'm saying is make do with what you got. There have been, you know, this could be the Great Depression where everybody had to eat part of their dog every year. whatever they do. Well, it could be worse. Yeah, it could be worse. Yeah.

One year my grandmother served us Cornish Gamehens for Thanksgiving. How were those? We each got our own Cornish game hen. You know, it's such a bony bird. It's like, it's a pain in the butt to eat. And, you know, turkey legs are the great misleading, the great misleading drumstick of the bird world, because you think you're getting, oh, I'm getting a drumstick with all this great juicy meat

and then you get the first bite and it's like you got an umbrella with the cloth removed stuck under all that meat. Yeah, it's weird. Those are not what you think they're going to be. So wait a minute, so Cornish Gamehen, but in terms of the kind of food it is,

like it tastes like a turkey? Does it taste like a chicken? It tastes like, yeah, I mean, it tastes like any, any, um it's not as um what is it what's the word it's not as rich tasting as turkey so it's probably somewhere between chicken and turkey okay so i could see that that would get people by yeah well i guess the point i like the abby cornish game hen no that's a baby cornish that's a favorite a lot of meat on those legs i don't know what that means i made that up i don't know i don't know what

that means i have no idea i don't even i'm not even positive who that person is subscribe damn it We hooked her in with all of our fawning talk during the last film sack, and now she listened to TMS, and she unsubscribe for all. Oh, right, the girl from, right, the Secret Service lady, Geostorm, got it. Okay, the rapper, she's also a rapper. The dusk, yes, the rapper dusk. The rapper dusk. Oh, she came back.

She came back when they started talking about. Oh, good. Promoting her rap career. Good. Here she comes, and the chicken tastes like wood. Oh, there she's gone again. Oh, shit. I just thought it was appropriate because we were talking about chicken.

and now she's left again. Damn it. Then she's left again. Darn it. All right. So who knows what people will do? We got a turkey for the family thing this weekend because we're doing it early. But I'm guessing it'll be harder to get a turkey in two weeks.

At least you did. See, that's the thing. I mean, you did it early and you're going to get that turkey experience close enough to Thanksgiving. Yeah, you could have Schwarma or kimchi rice. Ice bowls or something like that on Thanksgiving and be fine. Yeah. I haven't had turkey since Christmas, Scott. I need turkey. You do need some turkey. Get some turkey. I need some turkey in my life. I just texted Tina, who's getting her shot as we speak, her booster, said, hey, while you're at King Supers, get a turkey.

Yeah. Oh, is that where she's at as the King Supers? She's right there. Yeah, exactly. She also is going to ask him if they can give me a shot. And I haven't heard anything back on that. Oh. Well, if she doesn't in that voice, you're in trouble. They're not going to. Brian, you're going to get your shot. Come on over. Don't do it right now. They got a vial all ready to go, locked and loaded. They put a post-it note on it with your name.

I don't know why that's so funny. It's funny because it's not at all like her. Well, anyway, so yeah, Turkey, get it. Go and get it. And thanks for the inside knowledge there. Yeah, yeah, thank you. We appreciate it. All right.

Let's do some news. It's time for the news, and it's brought to you by... Brought to you by the retail department store, Lord and Taylor. No, not really. That just happens to be, who I'm going to be doing today's cover real about. Lord and Taylor Swift, Lord turned 25 last week. And Taylor Swift is like 31, but her birthday is always... in the same month that I do the coverville end of year stuff.

So I haven't done a Taylor Swift cover story. So why not do these two together? So you get covers of green light and royals and tennis courts and team as well as bad blood and never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever getting back together. And I knew you were trouble and other Taylor Swift songs. Oh, yeah. The many other Taylor Swift songs. The many other Taylor Swift songs. All of this happening at 1 p.m. Mountain Time today, Twitch.tv slash Coverville.

And I think instead of Guardians, today I'm going to do some Animal Crossing, because that's a lot easier for me to do during a show. I can just stop harvesting something to advance the songs. If I'm in the middle of a fight, there's like a little bit of a blank space, another Taylor Swift song, between a couple of the tunes because I'm busy playing the game. So Animal Crossing today and Lord and Taylor Swift, Coverville, 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.TV slash Coverville. Very nice. Hey, Claire, send me your spare recipes. I need them to, if you have some spare. No, she promised them to me. Send them to me, damn it. To me, damn it. Too late. She already sent them. I got them in my nook mailbox. Oh, damn it. My nook box. Nook box.

Brian did it all for the nookie. The nookie. I keep hearing that new limp biscuits, okay. You know what? I'll take your word for it, more of it for everybody else. I'm not even a fan. I don't like them. But I keep hearing, Scott, you got to hear this album. It's actually pretty good. And I'm like, really? I don't know, man. I haven't tried yet. But I keep hearing it's okay. All right. Can you get past the Fred Durst or the Fred Durst, the Fred Durst, Woodstock stuff? Oh, it's hard. To enjoy Limbiscuit? It's hard. But I also have to look at it this way. He was, what, like 24 then? He's like 55 or something.

Dick back then. I don't know. Like, I have some curiosity about it. I'm going to listen. I'm going to listen. It won't hurt me to listen. I'm just going to listen to it and see what's up. But I keep hearing people saying, oh, yeah, this new limp biscuit, it's good.

And I'm like, really? Yeah, really. I prefer, I like the biscuits that aren't limp. I prefer the non-limp biscuits. Yeah. That's projection because he actually has a tiny biscuit. I basically stole Benjian's joke. and did in a Trump voice.

Oh, very nice. I like the biscuits that aren't limp. You do makes great biscuits. Yeah. Who's that? I can't think of anybody. I was like going to go, Mrs. Fields or Pepperidge Farm,

neither of whom makes biscuits. Nope, they don't make biscuits. Well, they do if you're in Britain. I love Billisbury. Billsbury's making biscuits. If you're in the UK, they call them biscuits if it's a cookie.

Sure. Right? I've never understood that, by the way. Why the confusion on biscuits? biscuits are cookies. Yeah, exactly in the UK. So they say when British Bakeoff says, it's Biscuit Week, I'm thinking, oh, great, they're going to be just making grands and covering them with sausage gravy. It's like, no, they're cookies.

Oh, well, I'm in. Yeah, I'm in for cookies. I like me some cookies. So you can get that nookie and put it on your... Exactly. So what... So, Zoe, if biscuits are what you guys call cookies, then what are cookies to you? Like, is it something dirty, like fanny packs and...

Oh, right. Good question. is it like um i'm curious like is there is there a uh euphemism now that cookies become in the uke so clerk act says they have cookies and biscuits yeah pudding's another one putting here and putting there two different things kissy bears they're called crumbly wumblies that's pretty funny all right i don't know what you people do over there let's get to this first story uh unpacking It's this new game. It's very good. It's on everything. It's on Switch. It's on, well, it's not on PlayStation, but everyone else has it. It's on Xbox. From the makers of doing dishes and laundry. Well, you get to think. It's, it's fascinating little game. It's like, it's on Game Pass. If anyone out there has Game Pass, you just try it for free.

It's also on Steam. But it's basically this really beautiful, pixelated world where you, You go into a room and in the room is a bunch of boxes and you need to unpack. Like literally, you're unpacking, you open the box, you take items out, you organize them in the room. Eventually, the room's going to tell you if you've got something wrong or if you put something that's supposed to go in the kitchen and you put it in the bathroom by accident, that sort of thing. Yeah, it sounds like something where 90% of the players have actual boxes that they're ignoring unpacking to play unpacking on game pass. Totally. I was just saying the other, I don't remember what show it was on maybe boop or something. but over here, there's a box that I can see from where I'm sitting that's been here since 2003 when we moved in.

There's 2013, right, and it's still in the box. I haven't opened it. Or it's open, but it's sitting there. Let me ask you this. And I'm not at all poking fun at you, Scott. But you and I talked on Twitter and over text today about that sculpting program that you really like on iOS. Done anything more with the clay?

Yeah, I did. I got a whole little station over here. Oh, I haven't done anything. with it, but I haven't, I haven't sculpted anything, but it's out. But you have the tools. I have the tools. It's out. It's laying there. It's ready to rock. It's just there,

you know? So yeah, like your point is your point is taken. I should say that. Hey, Brian, uh, if I, if I send you one of these STL models that I do in sculpt, can you 3D print it? Yes. Or you could actually sculpt something with your clay and have it immediately.

Well, the idea there was hey, if I can print it, it's a good point. The problem is, the problem is this stuff is, you know, this is what, plasticine, so it's not going to, it's not permanent, so I don't know. Oh, you can bake, can't you bake plasticine and make it permanent? Or does it crack like, uh... Well, plasticine will just melt. You're thinking of, um, like that sculp-y stuff, I think you can... Oh, sculpy is exactly what I'm thinking of.

Yes, never mind, yep. This is a big old chunk of good old-fashioned plasticine, you know, oil, oil-based clay. that I think never goes anywhere But anyway What was my whole point? Oh, okay, so unpacking. It's this game. It's a very fun little puzzle game.

It has a neat little story behind it Because it takes place over time And the character that you're playing You never meet or see You're just learning about them Through the kinds of things You're unpacking for them And it goes from like 2000 to 2004 to 2008

And then the next house is like 2012 And you see their life evolving Like they are becoming an adult and, you know... So there's more of a story than just... There is. You all drop this crap off on my front door. Put it away.

Yeah, basically, it's... It's world-building, and they're not telling me... You know, they're not reading or speaking or saying anything. It's being told visually. It's like, oh, okay, this is where my life is now. This is someone else's razor. I've moved to in with someone. Like, it's just an interesting kind of way of telling a story.

And apparently, according to Patrick, by the end of this thing, you're almost in tears. and I don't know why. I haven't gotten there. That was a game I recommend on App Slappy like that, where you're viewing things in a family's house and you change the perspective of the house to see new things. And there was a really sweet, heartbreaking story as part of that. Yeah, it's a lot like that, actually. If I'm, if I'm, it's a little more focused on the mechanics. Well, crap, I really enjoyed that.

So now I feel bad about making fun of packing. Yeah, look at all this. I feel horrible. Well, don't feel bad. It's available to everyone. to play. So here's the thing. This part of the story, or the reason I tell you all that is just background, so you can kind of understand it. Here's what's funny, though. This is what's going on. Some younger fans of the recently released puzzle game unpacking are having trouble with a level,

and it's not because they're bad at the game or the level is a particularly tricky solution. And if I'm correct, I think this is the 2004 level. It's because some of those fans don't know what a GameCube is, and they keep putting it in the kitchen. Because the game has, so there's To their credit or to their credit or whatever. It does look like a blue rice cooker. It does. It looks just right at home on a kitchen counter. And what's funny is the game's full of this stuff.

It's not, they don't show names of brands of things, but it's clearly a GameCube. There's clearly a 360. There's clearly a PS2. You have a Game Boy advance. There's a original Game Boy. There's, you know, all these different things.

And a bunch of stacks of games you can even recognize just by looking at them, even though it's pixels. You can kind of go, oh, I think that's Mario Kart. But they're not overtly saying any of that. The problem is that GameCube, if you're too young or you've just never experienced one, it doesn't look like something that belongs in the living room. It doesn't. No, it does not look.

And it would help if they just put a controller with it. Yeah. Because you've got the four ports, just put a little controllers sitting on top of it. There you go. It makes sense. Well, and the controllers are there. They're just separate. Oh, there.

They're just separate. Oh, okay. Yeah. So you don't really know what those things go to. Now, the advantage, well, the advantage to me is I can. I know what it is, but secondarily, the controllers are the same controller. They're a blue GameCube. There's a picture there, chat.

You can see. So sitting right next to that rice cooker, that looks like it might go in the kitchen. I had the silver one. Yeah. And I don't blame them. But actually, that screenshot's a good example of the game, how it looks. It's very detailed, but it's still bitmap like pixel stuff. Right.

I love the look of the game. It's very cool. Anyway, poor kids. They don't know what the hell that thing is. oh here's let's see oh there's a post from a kid hold on I have to click this all right so some kid actually posted trying to get help

and says I'm having a hard time figuring out what this is and where it goes please help and then there's another one that says what is this and why can't I put it in any of my rooms yeah people just don't know what the hell that is but I do it's got a handle on it it's cool looking though I like that I mean yeah We look at that and say, oh, clearly a GameCube.

But, yeah, I think if I were even to show that to Tina, she'd probably think Breadmaker or Rice Cooker or... Yeah, because it does look like some kind of cooker. Because it looks like it's got a clear thing on top so you can see how far something is cooked. Yeah. It's a little too high tech for 2004 Rice Cooker looking, but kids don't know the difference. They don't know. They're kids. Yeah.

Gini, you've never heard of a GameCube before? really the nintendo gamecube from nintendo makers of gamecube you've never heard of that oh she's not a gamer well she's not a gamer i'm just surprised it just seemed like an iconic uh it was an iconic box man i don't know maybe i'm i'm see look this is an example of me being too much in my world you know yeah exactly you know i think it doesn't look like any other game machine every other game machine kind of more like a flat-looking console either with either just flat that you can put other things on top of or you look at the old Atari and the Kaliko Vision and it's like all right it looks like you know this flat surface that that just it does it looks like an appliance I get it I totally get it the 360 in the game also

looks weird if you've never seen one but like if you were to ask me right now to draw a virtual boy I don't think I could do one I don't think I could I could I could either I'd probably recognize it, but I couldn't draw it. Like if someone showed it to me, I'd recognize it, but yeah, exactly. And mostly I'd know it from being red. If somebody painted it green, I'm not sure I'd know. I might think, oh, what's this weird VR headset? Oh, it's a, oh.

Right, yeah, exactly. Well, all right. It's a cool game, though, everybody. Story aside. Unpacking. It's a rad, rat little thing. Listen, you've already got me back into Animal Crossing. Take your wins.

Yeah, I'll take my wins where I can get them. Yeah, that's right. I wasn't sure you were going to. I thought it was going to be. a longer haul to get you to check it out again. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see after today. If I get in and all of a sudden it feels like work, I'm out.

I'm out, Scott, I'm out. It might feel like work. I don't know. All I know is this. I found this by myself. I didn't have to look it up or nobody told me. There's a new Nook Miles recipe. Does I maybe mention this yesterday?

Anyway, you can buy the recipe. You learn it. Is the shed? Yes, the shed. Did I talk about the shed? Oh, my God. We talked about this shed for half an hour yesterday. I couldn't remember who I talked to about that. I've talked to a lot of people.

Everybody is who you talked to about the ex. Well, anyway, I learned something new about that shed. So the shed is very cool. On your island, anywhere you're at, it acts as the thing I mentioned. It's a portal to your home inventory to put things in or take out. It's great. So if you're full up on stuff while you're out in the neighborhood, chuck them all in there and then keep working.

However, does there a freezer in that shed where I can store the sea otter that doesn't give me pearls? That guy's such a weenie. Knocked him out and put him in the freezer in the shed. The one that looks like Cheech Marin. I love that guy. He, so the deal is this, though. It doesn't work on remote islands when you fly out there with your nook miles. Oh, I thought it did.

I thought you were saying like you could. I did too, but it doesn't. If you go to, you can place it, but it places it like the little leaf shape. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And it makes sense because if you're out there and you're farming it and you get it all barren and now it's full of spiders and now you're going to farm spiders all night, you'd never leave. just farm spiders until you're the richest person on the planet. So it makes perfect sense that you can't do it. But it still annoyed me slightly because I want to have that closet everywhere I go.

But at the co-op island on Harv's Island, you unlock a turtle guy that will basically do this for you. So it works as the closet. And I'm just starting over there. Brian, there's a lot of new stuff. It's all work, though. It's all work. None of it's... How good is the game about, like, letting you know all the new stuff so you can, like, a little,

little mini tutorial for those of you who only played us while you had COVID here's how you get back into the game like a little tutorial I mean they remind you they remind you of the new stuff but they don't really and all your villagers are like we haven't seen you in a year and you know stuff like that but

you you kind of are thrown back in okay good alright in the deep end um there's a app on my phone I'm not remembering the name oh yeah there is an app on your phone a new app uh Claire Claire's saying or

Claire's doing what a lot of people do. People get really sensitive if you don't know the exact name of these Animal Crossing characters. Right. I don't understand that. People live when I come up with a name for a Pokemon I forgot the name of. They're fine with it. They're like, oh, you're talking about so-and-so.

But if I say that turtle-looking guy, it's Tortimer! You need to get his name straight! It's like, oh my gosh, we're taking these characters a little too seriously here. Listen, I change their names anyway, so it's like, You know, my island I've got baboon who only likes pink shit. Yeah. There you go. See, but that's fine.

You told me all I need to know about Babbon. About that baboon. Now when you have some pink stuff, you just go and sell it to that baboon or give it to that baboon. That's right. Also, I'm in love with the little coffee shop you get in this update. Oh, a little coffee shop. Good. I created my own coffee shop.

I made a stand and I got an espresso maker and I put it on that stand and I printed up a little a little design for the awning above the stand to look like a little coffee thing. Because here's the problem. Brewster just Walmarted your ass out of town is what you did. Totally, right. Exactly. I'm a family-owned bookstore. Barnes & Noble just destroyed. Brewster is Jeff Bezos.

You're exactly right. And what's cool is I just discovered this yesterday. I was up there getting a coffee because you can do that. And if you've done that a number of times, he'll say, hey, by the way, if you ever want coffee to go, just go up to the little to-go counter and I'll send you with one. And now I can walk around with a hot little brew. That's cool.

All right. And you can sip it twice. If you sip it once, you get, you know how I used to eat fruit to dig up trees? Yeah. And you get strong stuff. Yeah, now you get two per sip of the coffee because it's strong coffee, see. It would be great if when you drank the coffee, it made you run around your island really fast. It would be awesome.

Give me triple speed or something. Yes. Oh, I would love that. All right. It's a good time. That game's a good time. By the way, if things get quiet during Wendy's segment, I'm totally not playing Animal Crossing, and don't have your Nintendo on, and if you see Brian just logged on,

it's Tristan's borrowing my Switch. Yeah, we'll know. We'll know just from that what's going on. It's all Tristan. We always blame him. All right. I think that's it for now. We're going to take a break. Because this next article you have in here is exactly what we talked about with Bobby. See, you get rid of that one. Oh, yeah, we can get rid of that one, right?

That's the exact story. Oh, I still had it as a carryover, and I just never put two and two together. Bobby talked about it. Oh, Shodjo, I got to come check out your island. Chojo always had the best island that I ever saw in Animal Crossing, and I'll bet with all this new stuff. Oh, without a doubt. She's the queen of island decoration and stuff. Island life.

Yeah. I'm sure she's a full five-star. oh you know what's great sorry i meant to mention this yeah um to unlock that closet you gotta pay 500 grand a nook because he gets nook gets his right sure which i probably have it you probably have but i didn't think i had it so i'm like i got to keep working then i remember that thing has a bank and i thought did i put a bunch of my turnip money in the bank i'm going over and check the bank six million bells i can afford everything wow yeah it was amazing i forgot i did that I just, I tucked it all away and there it was.

All right, we're going to take a break when my sister gets here, or after this song, my sister will get here and we're going to talk about a thing. I think it's a very relatable thing. So stick around for that right after this break, brought to you by Brian and his musical findings. Yes. Oh, this is one I'm super excited about because this is an artist that is not brand new to me, may not even be brand new to you guys as well, especially if you've listened to Coverville, because I've played Yumi Zuma before. She's from New Zealand, which means that that has to be her real name, Yumi Zuma. No, it's a band. It's not a person.

I guess it's a group, so never mind. It's their band name. Okay. It feels like it should be somebody's a real name. Anyway, they're a pop quartet, Yumi Zuma. And this is their second single they've released this year, but this one's so good. It's called Mona Lisa. It's just released as a single, no upcoming album to go with it.

But they are going to be touring the U.S. starting in April. I'm next year starting in Brooklyn, New York at the Music Hall of Williamsburg. Go check him out. This is Yumi Zuma and the brand new song, Mona Lisa. Give a little to take a minute And I'm trying to catch your name Not leaving it out Not giving it up

As you try to forget my face So tell me what you want to believe Because I couldn't see But what I was keeping was only a game So why you want to be free Because I can't conceive But darling you don't ever mean what you said You took me out to nightclubs, and I want your weight on my back.

What do you want me? I just look like nothing, and I'll need dressing blood. To make things better to have a second of your precious tundewspare. Arranging your life, not all out of spite, as you throw away my teeth. Tell me what you want. believe because I couldn't see that what I was keeping was only a game so why you want to be free because I can't conceive the darling you don't ever mean what you said. There's like no Melissa I've been lying if I don't want to try when emotions reason

sparks around the soul from being alive. For you, I feel exposed I don't have time to go. Why do we can't of those old? I know you're alone. The darling you don't even because I couldn't see that what I was clean

the world I was clean I don't think so I want to be three because I can't see the time to be big man who would you say There's like no

in the least I've been lying if you don't want to try my emotion is reason sparks around with songs be in the wild I can't get

I can't get Can you want to give it? Can I get it? Can I get it? And I know what you're going to give it up. And if you want to give it up, and leave you what you're going to take me it out for me. What's wrong?

It comes out. And I know what you're going to give up. Love you want to give it up. And if you want to give it up, and if you're going to take me out What do you say? I'm going to do what you're going to stop. I know what you're going to give up and I know.

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I've been waiting for you. Do not drink Red Bull right before bedtime. I lost my daughter to the abyss, but tonight I'm calling her back. This is the morning stream. All right, we're back, everybody. Hey, Brian, remind me that song again. Well, that song you just heard is Yumi Zuma and the brand new song, Mona Lisa. They are from New Zealand, and they are super cool.

Yumi Zuma sounds like one of those artificial, ladies that are big in Japan, like the robot CGI ladies. Oh, yeah. They get up and perform. What's that? There's one, a very popular one where she gets like millions of people come and see her in concert. Her name is Mina Savari.

There you go. I'm kidding. It's, uh, what is her name? It's something like that. Mayo Hattori? Oh, Hatsu Miku. That's right. Thank you. And art chicken, art and chicken. Yeah, that's totally cool. Yeah. Like a completely generated. not just an avatar with somebody else singing, but even the song that became a hit single

was completely computer-generated. Oh, I didn't know that. Like a machine learning single, and it went well. I did not know that. I knew, so when they show her at the concerts and stuff, she's like, if you want to play a second or two of it. Yeah, pop it in there. But she's like a projection, right?

She's like a hologram. Yep, exactly. When you see her in concert, it's, that's exactly right. That's either awesome or a sign of the, of the, it's the, uh, I don't know what it is. Yeah, here we go. Um, let's put it in our Discord. Yeah, stick it in Discord. I'll play it there. Oh, good.

It looks like it just went there. It's eight meg limit. Oh, I have to hit Enter. Enter. There you go. Enter. Oh, you hit enter, did you? Okay, here it is.

This is a cover, by the way. All right, I'm going to just place some of this. Oh, it's a cover of something? It is. All right, here we go. Also, this one isn't, yeah. so that's so that's voice is not a person at all right nope that is not a real person that is okay yeah it's actually kind of good yeah i also have a cover uh that she did of uh heaven

heaven is a place on earth by belinda carly really here you go belinda carlyle that's wild to me yes this one's in English. So you get, uh, oh, it's, it's great, too. Actually, you'll like this. All right. I'm going to play a little bit of this here. I'm going to skip a heads. Oh, no, start, start the beginning because you get, it begins with vocals. Oh, okay. Here we go. So why did they give her such an accent? That seems odd to me. What's a Japanese accent? No, I know, but it's really pronounced.

There's plenty of J-pop singers who don't have that pronounced of an accent when they sing. So why did they go that far? I don't know. I don't know, but it does remind me of KK. Slider, as we're talking about Animal Crossing. Oh, yeah, a little bit. It's just borderline, you know, gibberish, simlish, J.J. or a KK. Slider kind of stuff. I love it. I love it. All right.

Well, that was a fun. We've had a lot of fun misdirection. today. Yeah, we have lots of rabbit holes to explore. Yeah, it's your typical Thursday business. All right, we're going to get Wendy on the phone. She's been waiting very patiently, I believe. And we'll see what's up with her, although it's, I'm just getting the rings of ringage here. Let's see if we can't achieve some rings of speakage. Hello, oh, hello, Wendy. Hey. Oh, hi. Hold on. I got to play your thing. Look who it is. It's my soul.

sister Wendy. She lives all the way across the country, not that far, but kind of far in Minnesota. Not here in Salt Lake City anymore. We miss her, but we feel it every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. Every day. Your kids are home today because it's Veterans Day, right? So I'm probably probably in the middle of momming and things today. I hope we're not bugging here. No, they had Friday off. I think that was their deal. I don't know. Oh, you don't actually know. Are they around? Are they at home? Are they at school? No, they're at school. I think we get the entire week of Thanksgiving off. So I think they kind of try to, I don't know, they combine days.

It's smart. It really helps the way they do it. I appreciate it. They can honor those veterans at school. Everybody at school can honor the veterans together. Right. That's what's going on. Yeah.

How about that? Hey, it's good to have you here. Wendy comes on the show as an actual therapist and helps us with people's real problems each and every Thursday. and we've been doing this since 2011, 10 years ago. Well, it'll be 10 years. No, it's been 10. We're almost 11 years. Weird.

Anyway, we're going to go ahead and dive right in. We got an email from a listener who I will keep anonymous. They didn't actually ask me to, but I will because I didn't know. I always air on that side. If you guys send these in and you say, you know, please keep it anonymous, then I absolutely will. If you don't say anything, then I will also do that. So if you are okay with your name being read, just say so. because the default is we try not to we try not to out you yeah uh but anyway let's get right into it

this is one i think is um i don't know kind of related to some stuff we've talked about in recent uh episodes of the show as well or therapy thursdays but anyway it's a unique situation uh staying in a job that you hate out of necessity is the subject i am a high school teacher says this listener in a very low educational quality area i.e my kids don't like school thinks high school is pointless because most of them are going to go into farming, et cetera. And as a result, they don't make it easy to teach slash manage a classroom. Now I have a silver lining as a lifelong dream of going to med school is going to be fulfilled at the end of this academic year.

I got my acceptance a month ago. But continuing to stay in this job out of necessity for my wife and child to be a provider over the next eight months will be a massive chore. I dread getting up and going in the morning because no matter what I do, do to try to connect with these kids, they just seem to be turned out and feel completely undervalued with my efforts as a result. The days seem like months and the months like years. Part of it I realize is that this time of year is really hard on people because of the

holidays and our school hasn't had a break even a long weekend since Labor Day, which was what? That was September. September. That is a long time. Part of it is probably because coworkers are now saying that I'm a bad teacher, which I assume is because of the fact that I am now leaving. And even more so on my personal end, my wife is pregnant,

so I have even more responsibilities at home with our two-year-old and helping keep up on the housework. I am a perfectionist, so I always try my best, even knowing that I will be out of here in a year. But the thought of continuing to pour all of my attention and thought into something that is receiving no positive outcome for the next eight months puts knots in my stomach. With all of that said, I would really, or I will continue to make the best out of it,

but I was just wondering if there are any tips or tricks to cope with the coming month slash longer for those that may not have that silver lining like I do on the horizon. Thanks again for allowing the chance to discuss this. Hope to hear from you guys soon. Okay. That's tough with the like other teachers talking smack about you. I thought it should be like a, I don't know, like a band together. We're all in this together kind of thing.

Yeah, they should be excited for you. I would hope. That hurts me hearing about that. I don't like that part either. It bugs me. but also I like that he accepts this idea toward the end here that there are plenty of people in his exact situation that don't have the silver lining

I think that's an important thing to acknowledge and don't know why but that gives me some hope and humans but anyway so Wendy where do you want to go with this he's in a place he hates he knows he's out soon but boy howdy is it rough and what's he going to do and he's there out of necessity obviously he'd probably quit if he could

but what do you where do you want to start with this one okay have you guys seen it's an art installation somewhere I should really look it up before I talk about it but it's a forced perspective kind of thing where you're looking through it looks like kind of like an iPad and as you look directly through the iPad at the image in front of you of like artworky that's like material or something it looks like this really cool face yeah and then the camera pans to the side and it is just a pile of junk oh yeah yeah I love that kind of stuff yeah and they do this with like weird clothes and colors and like you you know you've seen it before right it's like that yeah it's all a person it's like that dragon that turns its head on it's kind of like that big

dragon face and this is what's amazing about this one in particular is just it is literally garbagey it looks like a like a hoarder house tipped over like it's not I don't know sometimes you feel like it's furniture I don't know things that don't look as bad from the side, but this looks so bad from the side. It just looks like a hot mess. And I think that's, it's, you know, a human experience to look at something from one angle, see it for what you think it is, and it's pretty hard for us to move around the side of it and look at it from a different angle, right?

And so when I hear this email, I think, I mean, this is a person who has really cared about these kids and has not been given maybe the support, the training, the camaraderie, the, you know, good colleagues or whatever to make a difference. Also, just straight up, you can't expect kids to not have a break for three months and be doing awesome. Yeah. Even a day or even so like introducing half a day where kids get to make up home, you know what I mean?

Something, right? Like that sounds like a, not an awesome situation. Anyway, so here he is in that type of scenario and not getting that support. But he's also like, I'm going to live my dream and I'm going to go to med school and has obviously taken the MCAT and applied previously and, you know, done all the things to get to this place. So that's really cool. So then the question he gets to is, you know, or the thing he's struggling with is he's got a whole school year left and he needs to get himself there. He's dreading it. So let's just talk about what that might be.

And then we're going to use the fourth perspective shift as a framework to talk about it. But what is it that is happening? So again, all the maybe not good supports are in place. But from a psychological standpoint, we've all been here to some extent. We have to finish something we don't want to do. And usually a silver lining is actually why you're suffering more, right? Everyone else, you think I like that. you think it's being nice.

But what I think it is actually is that having his dream around the corner makes doing this flaw really tough. Whereas someone else who has no plan to leave is they're not in the same brain state. No, it's like having the clock as you're watching it for summer vacation to come, right? It's like it slows down and every day feels.

And not even that. And to add to that time dilation, if everyone around you isn't looking forward to that, they think they see you as trunkey and and ineffective and also giving up and why do you think this is cooler than what we're doing where you know I could see why all those mixed emotions would be there as well totally well and also you may think oh they're jealous that I have some awesome gig coming up it also might just be that they don't like that you're walking away from something that matters to them and then there's going to be a fewer jealous sure I want to be but but more

than more than not teachers feel called to do teaching they rarely are just like you know what I'm in it for the money that's not happening yeah um anyway and so that can be part of that grumpiness and also you might be inviting some of that grumpiness without like intending to just because you are really unhappy being there and and the sort of getting through to the end is tricky okay so with the fourth perspective you're looking at it at this point you're looking at all the trash you are not looking at it from the other direction where you see the face um and that's because you now have an option to not look at at at all and that can sort of just switch people's brains a little bit okay so what would you guys suggest and maybe you've been in a similar circumstance where

you've got to just sort of slog through the end of something um and you know what have you done Do you have any suggestions of how to keep your chin up or do a good job even though you just don't can't? I mean, Brian, I think had that recent, you had a recent job, like side job client thing that was just a nightmare. It was. Yeah, but that wasn't like a, this will end at a certain date and time and I just have to get through it. It was, it ended as soon as I finally finished making what it was. I'm thinking more like, you know, when I'm. I finally decided I was going to quit work, quit the full-time job to do freelance and

podcasting full-time. There was a little bit of that where it was, all right, you know what? I'm just going to put in my next three months and then be done. And those three months did feel like forever. It was like, oh, man, another tech support nightmare I have to deal with or another, you know, this or that. and that did feel like this kind of sly because I really wanted to get to the thing that I was excited about.

Yeah. I've had a few things like that as well, but most of the time it feels like it's the one wrinkle for me is I do get past a thing, but then I can't wait until I'm really past it. Like distance of time and space. Like for me, for me it was like,

I don't want to get on the nitty-gritty, ugly details. Well, you know what? We'll use this Blizzard things. example. This blizzard mess was a clear, you know, it was very clear how I felt about, how everybody felt about this, you know, this mess at Blizzard Entertainment and what the impact it had on me and everybody around the community that sort of makes content around in and around Blizzard content. And the entire time it was like, all right, well, I know what this is and I know

what my response is going to be and what I'm going to do. But now I just need to have it get behind me. Like further away for me, the better. And that seems to take forever for it, for it to just not be the, the hot burning flame in the room that it was and still is in some ways. And so I don't know if that's, it's not the exact same because the silver lining isn't really all that silver. It's more just like, you know, we need to, we need to make whatever decisions we're going to make and then we need to move past this and go. Right. And support those who need help during. it and be there for the you know for all the the right reasons and proactive stuff sure but i just

mean like get away from the mess of it think of it as any other does not not disaster because it's not really the same but like if there is a big natural disaster if a hurricane hit your town you you you know what's in front of you and what you have to do and you really just can't wait until you're three four years down the road when this stuff is cleaned up fixed and you you know you've kind of gotten past it i i feel like that's more my experience than Yeah. Well, and in maybe both of your cases, there's like a thing you need to end or you want kind of the bad part to end. And that's where this is similar. Of course, he wants to move to the dream and has to get through eight months of some bad stuff. Well, the bad stuff is that he's not connecting with these students. Right? Right. And so this is where the question becomes... why would it be important for him to have something from this next eight months that is that feels good, solid, or whatever, before he moves on to a next career?

A lot of people like to burn it down. Like, I don't care anymore. And there's usually reason. Senioritis kind of thing. Yeah, totally senioritis. And there's a reason is because it stops feeling as meaningful or whatever, but then it also helps with grief. we remember we're not very good of grief

and so if I can care less then I can I don't have to grieve as hard right and so this is this is kind of the opposite of my suggestion is the opposite of this which is sort of to lean into understanding why this matters to him

like if this were a job he didn't care about he would not have written this email he'd be like well I taught for a time and now I'm in medical school peace out it's that it does matter and I'm not saying it's going to go haunt him into his medical career but I do think there is a lot of power to do some some I guess proactive work when you're in a setting be and not then not have to do it after the setting that makes sense maybe it's because you know in therapy we're always working with things that had happened and

people's regrets about what they didn't do or wish they had done or said or did didn't say, and that you're in the actual slog of that moment, you know, you can, you can do something about it. So my question would be, why do you care? Why do you care about teaching? Why do you care about these kids? Is this really about you that you're good or not at this? Because there's a lot of hinting in there that, you know, he can't connect. He's feeling judged by other people. Right. You know, and maybe kids just smell that on you. I don't know. Right? Are you smell fear? They smell Yeah. Kids are pretty smart with that.

Anticipation of getting out. I feel like, you know, really depends on the person. I'd probably, because I'm a little bit competitive, I would probably be motivated to really connect with the kids in those last few months. But I think that's not because I care about the kids as much as I'm competitive and I don't want those other teachers talking bad about me. but um right right so so some of it is just like a deeper dive into your own stuff and i'm going to tell you right now future doctor please do some of your work because there's a lot of doctors who do none of this and man do they have challenging things they provide to people what i mean is so here's something cool that's coming up you know how i love to get behind a little VR to build empathy in people, but there is some training that's happening in medical schools where using VR, they have you go, the doctor comes and practices their bedside manner with a

patient, talks through a case, tell someone they have cancer, whatever, you know, the practices. And then it's recorded from the perspective of the patient. And then the doctor can put on the VR set and see themselves, talk to them about their diagnosis and critique how they come across to themselves, right? Like, that's kind of freaky on one hand. Like, you kind of don't want to know exactly how you're talking to yourself. But anyway, some of that, because there is a challenge. There's a challenge when, and medical school will try to destroy your soul.

That's kind of how it's built in some ways. And it's really tough. You do not get the time with patients you think you're going to get. You don't get some of the things you may hope by being the guy. in medicine that maybe you're banking on and you have to figure out how you are going to be you in this new industry and maybe you haven't figured out how you are going to, you're you in teaching. And so maybe I'm making more of an existential threat than is here. But I just do think there's value and you've got eight months. Make the most of this. Figure out what is really

happening for you. Grieve what you need to grieve. You know, face that maybe your ego is a little sore from this and then work on what your ego is about and you know it's like a gift it really is um and or you slog through it and then go to middle school you know there's always that choice um but i do think there's some some profound options and lessons that might be available to this person that they wouldn't see coming and as soon as med school starts good luck having five minutes to think again right like this is this feels like a gift you might end up wasting feeling sorry for yourself or or not even feeling sorry of yourself but just like like it's hard i'm not saying it's not hard i am not but i am saying you can focus on that and just want to get out and

maybe there is a there would be a really cool chance to do some of your own work beforehand just to make sure it's just that you know you're changing careers that's fine this usually no big deal but there's enough in here that tells me you know how you are perceived matters to you how you connect or don't connect feels like a thing you know maybe there's some exploring and curiosity you could take to this i would be uh so one of the things i don't like in life most is um is when people when they how do i put this without it sounding weird i don't want it to sound weird but I don't let it sound weird I guess what I'm saying is I have this tendency

sometimes I'm sure everybody does this feeling of it's always greener on the other side I mean and I'm not saying that isn't in his case it isn't it sounds like it probably is going to be greener in the long haul that's not what I mean but there you can get caught up in these these loops of well when I'm there it'll all be better

and my experience has always been it's usually not necessarily better or that there's no guarantee of anything it's it's all about your attitude your willingness to do whatever you have to do to make it right for you or whatever like there's more to it than just you know well next door is greener well not necessarily there's probably worms in their grass who knows i don't know like it's also not good to start assuming everything is is browner on the other side right um using the yard metaphor the grass metaphor but but but you know what i'm saying like there's a there is that there is that problem some people get into that rut of well this next

house is going to be the right house this next job is going to be the right job i'm just sure of it this time but there's been like five six others of these and again this isn't him doesn't sound like him but there's a common yeah i just worry that i just worry that when he gets there it's it's it's not going to be certainly isn't going to be easier in terms of work because now it's you know like you said his brain's going to bring and have another chance to relax again until he's, until he graduates or does whatever he's going to do. And it's just going to get more complicated because his wife's going to have another baby.

You've got a two-year-old already. So you got a baby and a two-year-old and, you know, and a mom to help and all that. And, you know, it's going to be, the grass isn't going to be greener. It's just going to be grass. And what you make of that grass will depend on how you feel when you get there. And if you want to water that grass, you want to cut that grass, you want to not leave the car on the grass? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, I don't know why that's, that's jumping out at me, but for some reason, the grass is always greener is, is making an appearance

in my brain today. Totally. And I think there's some processes here that explain this phenomenon, and that is that humans are very bad predictors of future outcomes. Meaning, you are going to assume you're happier and you'll be wrong. You're going to assume it'll be harder and you'll be wrong you're going to like whatever you're going to guess about the future comes from going back to our amygdala conversations the last couple rounds you know is is could be fear based and then it's going to be inaccurate because you're not going to die by speaking in front of a group of people though your brain has told you you're going to die so that prediction will never be right you know right or whatever so so and then the sort of positivity bias can jump

in too, which is a strange phenomenon because we're pretty negative, negatively biased as humans to protect ourselves. But there is this, it is still protective. It's like, it'll be so much better than this. And that's because we know what this is. And so the real challenge is to be present with this. Whatever it is right now, if you can do this, then you can do whatever comes in the future because that future will then be present again, right? And that's what's so hard about, you know, mindfulness meditation and training people to get present and be in the moment in their lives is our brains don't want to do that very easily. But their power of that is that everything is sort of doable. And it's not, you know, your system isn't freaking itself out

to try to keep you safe. So, for example, a really important question for this person to ask himself is why why is the kids not connecting with him matters so much to him what's that about? And digging into that because one day you're going to have

patients who don't also connect with you like wouldn't it be more fun to work on this now the present moment problem because it will it's just going to show up later it always does whatever is happening

right now in anyone's life the only thing we can predict is that thing will happen in some other form in 10 years. Or we are in this moment dealing with the things. And that's something different will happen later because we've shifted the patterns or we've, you know, we understand where this might be coming from. So just even this. I'm making this up, this poor girl. I feel like I'm kind of picking on. Yeah, we are adding to his stuff he has and he actually said.

But, you know, that's how we do this. Yeah, we do. And I'm sorry. I think part of it is that I'm harsh on. doctors because I'm frustrated by the missed opportunities there sometimes, you know, like just the, and there are people that I am not referring to, but it's just my clients that I've had. Okay, so I have my own bias against doctors that I've seen in practice.

How about that? And then the few that never listened to me when I actually go for medical care. So there's that. But just this idea of like, why are you not a good teacher in your mind or in the kids' minds or in your colleagues' minds, that's an important question to get to. Is it that you're not actually a good teacher? Or is that that's really more about worrying about what you are thought of?

Yeah. Or the accolades that you should be getting. Taking that into medicine, you're going to be in trouble, right? Anyone would be. And so maybe it's not that. Maybe it's just like, I have given and given and given. I'm exhausted and it's hard to be creative and open at this stage. And that's fair, totally.

And maybe it's not related. But this idea of that we're sort of a combo of, we are bad at predicting future happiness levels and what is going to be good or not. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but we are bad at it. And we have many studies to show how bad we are and can document it. We are bad at it.

And then look at your own lives, right? Like, oh, remember when I thought when I'd finally get that amount of money or buy that car or get this, whatever, the joy I thought I would have versus a joy of power. planning the joy i would have so we just know that's part of this so maybe this is a piece of this and it keeps us out of the moment so when i hear him struggling to get up every day he is not in the moment of his life right now and that's because he's forward thinking and that's what it tends to do so maybe there's just some really basic grounding in the moment work he can do which is like

i mean i got a crazy idea go to school and don't try to reach the kids they will also smell that you know what's yeah right you know what's maybe i wanted to pay attention to me now here's what's what's kind of funny oh i did brian's thing the funny thing um you were talking about the other day uh what was i going to say oh so i think i can relate to this it's there this just happened so back in uh 2014 15 something like that six seven years ago um there was a kid in a class that I taught, who I just thought the world of. She was smart as a whip, super creative, soccer player, just an awesome kid. At the time, she'd have been 10, I guess, 10 or 11.

And just such a cool kid, just really thought the world of her. And it was the kind of, you know, weekly class relationship where it felt like she was almost like one of my own kids. Like if I found out somebody was bullying or I'd be just as pissed and run down to the school and scare some people. Like it was that kind of a thing. And I just really thought the world of her. They moved to New York.

Their family moved to New York. And I found myself just here recently thinking, I wonder if she remembers any of that. Did I, as a teacher, make an impact on her? Like, did I have any? Like, I thought I had this connection. But did I really? Because she's busy being a teenager now and, you know,

got all that going on. And she's in school. And she's playing soccer and winning state championships for her school and all this kind of stuff. and lives, you know, clear across the country. And there was a little sadness in me that maybe just maybe she'll not remember any of that. Like that thing I thought I was doing, that connection, right? Didn't, did it actually connect?

And I really don't like thinking about it. There's a real sadness to when I think about that. So I wonder if that's where he's at. Like maybe early on. Once he moves on to being a doctor, the kids are going to be like, all right, who's the next teacher? Because I think everybody wants to have that feeling that they made a difference before they move to what's next. And he's not feeling like he's made that difference.

Maybe that's it. Yeah. And wants to make it. He wants to be a doctor for good reasons, right? Not just ego reasons or money reasons or usually, right? Like that's usually people have ideals about the stuff they want to do and participate in and like see themselves in a particular way. And you can tell that is probably true based on how he is frustrated with this teaching experience.

And so going back to this perspective, Scott, you posted it on the chat, which is great. And I've just been watching it replay as you've been talking. And I'm thinking, like, how can he see this from a different angle? And a big part of it will be being curious, being open, like sort of asking the part of him that is offended by how these kids are acting towards him to sort of step aside and like be more present and try some stuff. I mean, that's the real power of good teachers is they have the flexibility of like every kid

is so different. Like how they even do this and with so little pay is ridiculous, right? But they really can remove them, use their skills, remove themselves and create this sort of place where a kid can grow and learn at a pace that's different from every other kid in the room. It's amazing, right? So maybe just get curious about can I try something different? Can I look at this at a different angle? Can I wake up and find something I can be curious or excited about in regard to what I'm doing with these kids today? Can I teach a lesson that I would want to get?

Because sometimes the try hard, this is what's awesome about the youngest generation is they can so, I mean, always kids can smell stuff out. But these kids say it out loud, which is funny. So a great story is this dad, my friend's kids, my friend's kids, dad was having a little midlife crisis and bought himself a Tesla. Anyone heard this story before? Oh, God. He showed up. incredible anyway. Well, yeah, I don't know.

Anyway, but he gets his Tesla and he makes sure to take all the kids home and just like, I'll drive. I've got the Tesla like, you know. And they get out of the car and the kids are all like still hanging out or whatever. And somebody said, oh, and the dad says something like, don't, did you like the Tesla? You're like riding in the Tesla. And everyone's like, yeah, okay. And they get in the house.

And my friend overhears them talking, this is a bunch of 11-year-olds, by the way. One just goes, it's just kind of sad. He's such a tryhard. And you're like, oh, dad, the kids can see through it. And I think there's something to be said with each of us. Like, that's what's actually amazing about being teachers is that kids see through it and kids just say stuff. And they're terrifying.

So first of all, bless you for being a teacher and then bless you for being a doctor. Those are hard places. I'm sorry if I'm sounding too critical. But I really do want him to try to figure out a different way to look at this and sort of adjust himself for this rough moment because you know what's coming is you know residency and boards i mean there are things around the corner that are really tough and wouldn't this be just an interesting time to use the time differently and figure some things out maybe about themselves maybe no kid changes and then scott like you said this sort of legacy thing that it can be built into i want to make a

difference i'm going to tell you as the therapist who eventually talks to these people who had these teachers or had these adults in their lives or mentors or whatever they are, they're not talking about the good ones. They're talking about the bad ones, right? They're talking about the ones that hurt them or offended them.

And then sometimes there's like a really special teacher here or there, but it's usually because the other ones were terrible. So I'm going to make an assumption for that little girl, Scott, is that probably had a lot of good people in her life. You guys had a great connection. She'll either remember you as someone was awesome, in contrast to someone who was terrible, or just part of a good childhood. Probably that last thing. She's got great parents, great family, like, yeah, there was no reason.

So for you, it might be a little bit of grief. And that's what I would suggest for him as well, that there is some grief here. And grief of maybe what it could have been, what he wanted it to be, what his intentions were. And so grieving as you go and. live life is seriously the key and it's just really hard to do we're really good at shelving things we're worried about the future we're not so good at like really being present and then like staring at what the present the present moment is showing us and dealing with it so that's yeah this sounds harder than it is i would say get a good therapist for eight months because you won't have time after

this that's a good idea like this no this would be the perfect time slot you know get a get a slightly more than half a year in with somebody who can help you along this process and help you not only deal with the now and here, but also have that perspective switch. I think that's great idea. So this is perfect because, yeah, your life's about to get insane and very short order. Eight months may seem like a long time right now, but oh, man, it'll go quick. And you're entering, you're entering that world at a very interesting time. And it's just an odd. Yeah, everything about it is going to be more work. But anyway, let us know.

And then just try one experiment with your class. Yeah. Like do something nuts. Like do the opposite of try to get them to like you. Do a lesson you would love to have had. Like just like mess around a little and just watch the energy shift. Right? Just like when a mom or dad is in the home, they get to decide the tone of the home.

Right. Sometimes a really bad teenager gets to decide sometimes too. but the teacher has that same power and maybe trying to reach everyone is the opposite of energy. So yeah, just try something. It would be really fun if you did something and then told us about it, like experiment, do something a little nice. Yeah, yeah. We love that kind of stuff when you guys follow that. So let us know.

Great. This is all good as usual. Wendy, are you, by the way, are you calling us today from inside the wind chimes? I'm sorry. It's very windy. and they are they're about to be taken down because you know it's I mean

who am I fooling it's mid-November it should not have a wind chimes out anywhere so I don't know why not you can hear wind chimes no they weren't too bad but everyone knows it's windy and it's very zen be in the moment that's what the gong is for

did you know that? No meditation the gong is to help you remember to bring your thoughts back to your breath that's like with a little popper with the dog when you're walking them and you pop the sound the little dog clicker

I thought that was just because Jamie Farr didn't like the person singing on stage with a Viking helmet. Oh, man, ask your great-uncle or parents. I thought J.P. Morgan was bored with the comedy act. I thought that was the, what the sound of a guy. There's some old school digging there. Yeah, there you go. Well, Wendy, I hope, you know, things go well for your Thanksgiving and all that business. We're doing a Demetious this weekend early, but, you know, we will.

Oh, fun. Are you, are we doing the show next? week and then just not on Thanksgiving. Let's see. Yeah, right. Next week, next Thursday, there's a show. Week after that is Thanksgiving, no show. Yeah, no show next to me.

Gotcha. So if somebody sent an email in about, I don't know, family, drama, or gratitude. That sounds like the exact opposite. But, you know, something that's a little Thanksgiving-y or like someone from out of the country talking about how weird we seem with our Thanksgiving. I'd love to talk about that, too. Oh, yeah. Anyway, yeah. Let's get it themed, people. Let's do that.

Yeah, let's get in there and get that happening. We did that a little bit last year, too, and the year before. So let's do it again. Let's get these family issues out while the holidays are here. Wow, we can. That's a really good idea. Wendy, have a fantastic week. Thanks. We'll see you soon. You too.

Bye now. May all your wind chimes be windy. All right. I found them soothing. I barely noticed. I did too, actually. I like them. I wish they were the whole time, like not just while she was talking, but I kind of wish that we heard them the entire time. Yeah, because Discord blocks

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So normal PM. I think Dan's here. I'll check with him. Okay. Make sure we're good there. But normal 2pm business there. In the morning, we got 10 a.m. The instance, I'm going to be just me and Jocelyn tomorrow. Garrett's out of town, but we got a really cool topic. So

tune for that. And what else? Oh, Corr tonight at 5 p.m. with me and John and Boe, so check that out. All right. Home Sack this weekend. Oh, yeah. And Coverville today, 1.30.

A cavalcade of entertainment. Yep, you want that, do you want, you want your, your, your, your Taylor Swift on? Oh, yeah. Your Lord and Taylor, come to, coverville today at 1 p.m. You should put that new Lord album cover on the front of the video the whole time, so we all have to

stare at her crotch for two hours. You should do that. Yeah, I could not figure that album cover out. Is she wearing I don't know what's going on. Is she not wearing something? I don't get it. It's weird because... I know she's 25, but I still feel weird looking at that. I completely agree. And she wears in previous stuff, she was always like lots of baggy stuff kind of like what's her name, Billy Elish style, just like a ton of stuff on.

And then suddenly there's this album. And look, it's fine. She can do whatever she wants to do. Sure, of course. But, you know, I can't walk into a record store. Not that that's how I saw it. I can't open, you know, Spotify or whatever. I'll buy this album at Walmart. Yeah, and Walmart, they carry it, but they cover it. They put a thing on it because it's like, ah! I think I just accidentally looked up a girl's skirt. I didn't even mean to.

Exactly, yes. Up skirt picks. Send nudes. Yeah, send nudes, everybody. Hot nudes. Dear Lord, send nudes. Oh, your album? Okay, I'll buy it.

All right. Hey, Brian, song. Let's do a song. Yes. Joe Hefner wrote in and said, This Saturday, I turn a half century. Oh, I'm pausing for a... Oh, oh, because birthday, shit.

I'm off my game. Hold on. Happy birthday to you! There you go. And we're definitely not slut-shaming crats. It's two old men feel uncomfortable looking at Lord's new album cover. Yeah, the whole point, listen, let me just say this. This might get me in trouble, but I don't know. There's a reason the album cover is what it is.

It's provocative. That's what this stuff does. That's the whole point. It isn't us going, ooh, I see something that's not there. No, they made it so that we would all talk about it. That's the whole point. So let's not, you know,

and also I wouldn't call it slut shaming because I don't know how that makes her a slut. To me, it's just an artistic choice. But the point is, they do it for a reason, and that response is the reason. So, dur. Yep. All right, anyway, go ahead. All right.

back to this our turn a half century. If possible, I would like to hear a cover of my favorite song of all time Fleetwood Max, don't stop. I know it's not one of Scott's favorites, but don't stop has to remind me over the course of my life that bad situations are only temporary and that life does get better. Thanks for all that you do.

Sign Joe Heffner. There you go. It's not that I don't like that song. They always use it in politics. It's always some stage thing. They used it once in politics for Bill Clinton's inauguration. me, all the songs that get used for inaugurations and or anything on any side of any spectrum of the political spectrum, I hate them all now. I can't stand there. Because I know it's all bullshit. You're not going to listen to YMCA by the village people anymore. No, I hate it. I don't like how that's used in any of that stuff. Even the ones where they get mad that they used it. Like someone will use it for their campaign and then the band will go, wait, we would never support you. You can't use our music. And even when that happens, I'm still annoyed that the song's happening on stage. This annoys me. Wow. All right. Well, okay.

Anyway, this is a really good version. This is by a band called Pink Turtle. You know, you like stuff like Postmodern Jookbox, where they take the songs and put them into not just another style, but what feels like another decade, another world of music. And that's what Pink Turtle does as well. This feels like it's an old jazz skiffle tune from the 30s or 40s. Pink Turtle and their cover of Don't Stop from their 2012 album, All-a-Mode. Sounds good. We'll be back tomorrow at 2. 4 p.m. If you're a patron, you get it. If you don't, you don't. We'll see you then. Why not think about times to come? And not about the thing that you've done If your life was bad to you,

Just think what tomorrow will do Don't stop thinking about tomorrow, don't stop It'll soon be here, it'll be here better than before Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone All I want is to see you smile If it takes just a little while I know you don't believe that it's true I never meant any heart to you

Don't stop thinking about tomorrow Don't stop it'll soon be here It'll be better than before Yesterday's gone Yesterday's gone Yeah! All I want is to see a smile if it takes just a little while. I know you don't believe that it's true.

I never made any harm to you. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop. Don't stop, baby Don't stop No, no, no, no, no Never, never, never stop

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