The Morning Stream - TMS 2206: Bad Phlebotomist

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

If That's Mild, We're In Trouble. $2 More For Flinching! I don't like Beeee Cheeeeeeeeeeses. Forks Scat in the Microwave. Suck on a Butterbullet. No More Mister Mice Guy! How best to warm your wiener,... today on TMS. I Fell In Love With A Woman From The Sunday Comics That Nobody Reads. Are you worthy to taste Alice Cooper's Hot Sauces? It's got chunks. We're all gonna die! Take That You Tube Guy! She's a Coconut... Rabbit... Thing. Circus Circus. For people who know what they've done wrong. Mustard Legs With Bobby. Making things with Bill and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Forks, scat in the microwave. Skipped up to loop up. Suck on a butter bullet. No more, Mr. Mice guy. best to warm your wiener. I fell in love with a woman from the Sunday comics that nobody reads. Are you worthy to taste Alice Cooper's hot sauce? It's got chunks. We're all going to die. Take that YouTube guy. She's a coconut rabbit thing. Circus, circus, for people who know what they've done wrong. Mustard legs with Bobby. Making things with Bill and more on this episode of the morning
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Starting point is 00:01:21 Hey, what are you doing? I'm tossing bikes in the river, bro. The morning stream. Shoving hobos and sucking the cheese since 2011. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to TMS. It's Tuesday, November 15th, 16th, sorry, 2021. I'm Scott Johnson with Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Hibbit. Inhibit. Hibbitt. If your name was, okay, let me ask you this. Yeah. If your name was Hibbitt or my name was Jackson, would we be different people,
Starting point is 00:02:08 meaning same, same, same, same, origin story, same parents, same age, same birth dates, all that. Oh, my God, I love these philosophical questions. First thing off the bat. Right off the bat. Do we go in different directions? I just want to throw my bikes in the lake, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah. If I was, so if my name was, if my last name was Hibbitt, how would it? How would it have affected my life in the direction that my life took me? Right. And there's no way to really tell, but do you think it would have had an effect? I don't think it would have had any effect. I can't think of any major life choices that would have come from me being named.
Starting point is 00:02:44 So, all right, let me ask this. All right. Would I have still gone to travel to Cambridge? Like, would the Ibit sundial in Cambridge that I traveled to be the Hibbitt sundial? How far back does the name change go? Oh, I see. That's interesting. Because that was a, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I was just thinking like alphabetically you're in a different order, so your teacher would call your name different and stuff like that, but you're going deep. I like it. I like what you do. You know, I always sat behind a kid named Mike Hutchins, no relation to the lead singer from NXS. Mm, no, no. Rest of soul.
Starting point is 00:03:20 This would have put me in front of Mike Hutchins. Would it have put me closer to any of the object. of my affection and desire in school giving me a better chance. Yeah, you don't know. Interesting. Yeah, that's, see, now there is, that's where it would have affected things. Yeah, and you never know, because if you'd have gotten closer to one of those girls and then that girl, let's say she was a little bit of a, you know, conniver and her whole
Starting point is 00:03:46 goal in high school. Flusie? Was she a flusy? She's trying to get pregnant with Brian Ibbott's seed. Oh, Brian Hibbitt's. Brian Hibbitt's seed, sorry. Yeah, that Hibbitt seed, much sought after. So now, now it's you and Sally Forth or whatever her name is.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Sally Forth. Having a kid at 16. I fell in love with a woman from the Sunday comics. And now your lives... Your lives are inexorably changed forever. Okay. Now if I was Brian Hibbert, I'd laugh like this. I like it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 All right. Well, there you have it. Hibbet's seed should be today's title. I'm calling it now. Hey, all right, we get the important emails. Yeah, we do. I don't think there's any doubt about that. No, maybe there is.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I mean, look, if that previous philosophical discussion was any indication, we do not shy from hard topics here on this show. No. We dive right in. We let it all hang out. We don't. We're not afraid. And neither are our listeners. Kyle wrote in, this is not, as far as I know, Kyle Ferguson, a friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:04:52 This is a different Kyle. He says, hey, Swiss and bourbon. Not bad. I've heard bourbon before, never Swiss. How come that's not two cheeses, though? Yeah, is bourbon with that spelling? Is that a cheese? Because he didn't spell it like the liquor.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Oh, yeah, B-R-B-O-N. No, maybe that's a cheese. Chat room alone. But why not Bree? Yeah, why not? Oh, yeah, why not Brie? We're not Swiss and Brie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Or, I mean, there are B cheeses. Yeah, there are B cheeses. There are A cheeses and B cheeses. People don't know why we're so hung up on cheeses, by the way. It'll become apparent in like a moment. Yeah, well, all right, he says, here's the body of his email. Is it okay to put cheese on everything always? Love the show, though, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Very straightforward question. So, is it okay to put cheese on everything always? No, the answer is no. You wouldn't put this on chocolate. You wouldn't put it on maybe some kinds of cheeses and chocolate go together, but you're not going to put like... I've had a nice charcutory tray that had some dark chocolate. and some, um, some, some, um, some, um, some, uh, crumbly, like blue cheeses and stuff. Yeah, and those go together pretty well.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Those go together. But you're not going to take, all right. Let's say you had a cup of coffee, Brian. You're not going to sprinkle, like, created cheese on it. I'm not going to put cheese in the cup of coffee. Now, here's the thing, though. I've put butter and coconut oil in coffee. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:06:13 For like, um, that bullet coffee thing. Right. Um, that ain't good for you. No. I can't have, that can't have, uh, helped, uh, helped, um, uh my current situation sure tasted good though didn't it though it did taste really good it was very smooth and it's the only coffee i ever liked was somebody let me taste their butter bullet whatever and it was someone let me taste their butter bullet
Starting point is 00:06:36 butter bullet hmm let me taste your butter bullet that's uh that's how sally fourth actually hooked me oh yeah well let's get you that way and if your name was hibbitt that was her opening line and from then yeah yeah a saturday night at hibbitt's house is a whole different place than it is currently. It certainly is. What do you think is the weirdest thing you've ever put cheese on that most people wouldn't put cheese on?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh my gosh. Weirdest thing? Weirdest thing. Oh, that's hard. I'll help you out. I'll start. Yeah. I had cheddar on a slice of apple pie.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And I thought at the time that was the weirdest thing than anyone had ever done. apparently it's big in the south. I've heard of it. It was freaking delicious. Yeah, I've heard of it. And you like, it was good.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That was the take. It was really good. The tartness of the cheddar and the sweetness of the apple pie, just amazing together. Yeah, I think my wife may have spoken of this from her upbringing, that that was somehow a thing. I can't think of anything. I don't think we're talking about the genitals identity for. No, no, no, not the genitals. In the butt bob.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Nope. Those don't count. We're not looking at those. We're talking about regular edibles. I guess the closest I have to say to this would be... I did melt... Okay, I do remember doing this. I melted pepper jack cheese over a...
Starting point is 00:08:07 This is gross, but I microwaved a corn dog. Frozen corn dog. Put it in the microwave. You're not supposed to cook them that way. You're supposed to bake them. But I did that. You can. I was you say, if you wrap it in a paper towel,
Starting point is 00:08:19 corn dogs in microwave are totally a thing. Hold now. on. Is this a thing? I could do that? Yeah. But wait, what does that do? Tina gets these all the time. So Tina gets these, they're a breakfast sausage wrapped in a pancake, but it looks just like a corn dog and has that corn dog kind of delivery method. Granted, it's not a corn-based, like, dough wrapped around the thing, but the concept's the same. You've got some kind of breading.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's on a stick. You wrap it in a paper towel, a minute and a half. in the microwave, that thing comes out perfectly. What does the paper towel do, just keep moisture from getting too wet? Yeah, it keeps moisture, it keeps the bread from being completely dried out and chewy. Right. And also it keeps the moisture around the bread so, so that it stays kind of soft. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Because in my head, well, okay, so here, when I did that with the cheese on it, first of all, it wasn't that great. It was okay, whatever. It was fine. I was young and, you know, we're young and dumb. It doesn't matter. what you eat um but the breading the the corn part was just all gooey and like not oh yeah yeah so that might that that who knows because the the the things the tina gets are sausage is wrapped in a
Starting point is 00:09:36 pancake it's kind of like a um a mcgretel without all the hassle because it comes on a stick she loves those things really yeah what does she how would she say it if she were to say that you're out of yeah did you eat all the corn the pancake wrapped Pigs in a blanket. I can't find any of them. Why that cracks me up like nothing else? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Why that's so funny. Because it's so not her voice. But as a kid, so as a kid, I learned the trick that if you take a hot dog bun, put a hot dog in it, and then wrap that in a paper towel and put in the microwave for 30 seconds, it's like perfect. I'm going to try this once when we get more. to try your method, because I never heard of that, and that makes perfect sense to me. And it was like the, you know, because the way you learn to do it as a kid is, is, oh, get a pan out, a sauce pan out, or pot, fill it with water, put a hot dog in there, put, let the water boil, boil it for a minute or so, then take the hot dog out, put in a bun, blah, blah, blah, and that whole process, when you're a kid that feels like forever, and it's only like, you know, five minutes of work, but it feels like forever. And, um, but you do that. Like, if you take the hot dog right out of the fridge, put it in a hot dog bun,
Starting point is 00:10:58 wrap the whole thing in a paper towel, microwave for 30 seconds, for whatever reason, it's, it's fantastic. But not from a frozen state, though, right? Not from a frozen state. That's probably where I got in trouble because there's more moisture because you got all that ice to melt or, you know, outside. Well, the corn dog, though, is different. So that came from a frozen state? Yeah. Yeah, so does the, so does the, um, pigs in a blanket thing that I'm talking about, those are frozen.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And those are a minute and a half. You don't defrost and then, or do you do defrost and then cook it? No, no. Right out of the freezer, wrap it in paper towel, minute and a half from Frozen State. All right. All you college kids. From Sylvester Stallone Demolition Man State, it's a minute and a half. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And don't forget the three shells, you're going to need them after you eat that corn dog. The Kremlin's, which is already defrausted, thawed, I guess it would be the word. Thod, sure. Thawed out, we'd always say, thawed out when I grew up. Thought out. Yeah. Thought out. 30 seconds, boom.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Okay. All right. Porn dog. What's Dice Tomato talking about? I don't know what's going on there. Porn dog? Porn dog? Even bun, squishy, twitchy.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Put the hot dog in the bun. Wrap the whole thing in a paper towel. 30 seconds microwave. Try it and you'll be amazed. Maybe a minute. Maybe you do a minute. I'm blown away by this news. This is incredible, helpful, practical kitchen advice that we're getting today.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. Didn't know we were getting this today. Did you guys at home? Teach your children well. Eat those mystery meat, two, of pork products. Yeah. Pig bits. Right out of microwave. How bad could it be for you?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, I can't. But, you know, wrapping a paper towel, all those problems go away. No nitrates. No, no aluminum foil, pea crumb. Who no? No, don't do that. Don't put any of that shit in their microwave. That's a big mistake. I put a fork in the microwave by accident about a year ago. I can't believe it didn't talk about it on the show. Total accident. Just left it in there. Zipat, boom, bam. Skibbitty back best. I'm sure. It's like Fourth of July in there.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, it was bad. So don't ever do that. I don't know what damage I actually caused it kind of it darkened the tray the little turning tray but that's it didn't do it oh look that skipio sk1 p io says one minute blast in the air fryer after microwave to get it nice and crispy that is that's what you do with those corn dogs by the way so you take it out of the microwave for a minute and a half scott then put it over in the do you have an air friar that's like i don't but i'm always on the edge of just grabbing one because everyone says they're great i don't have i should show you the one to get okay you The Cuisinart, it's a Cuisanart countertop model.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Instead of being those weird tall bullet things that you just, you have to put in a cabinet when you're not using. Oh, right. Yeah. I don't like that. Get the Cuisanart, Toaster Oven, Air Friar, Dehydrator, breadproofer, oven, oven combo thing. It's like, seriously, this thing changed our lives. It's like. And it's Cuisanart, which means.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I make nobody. Maybe I should really quickly make an Amazon link with my code in it. You should. It is, this thing does everything and takes up, you know, the space of a toaster oven in your counter, and we were able to get rid of our toaster, our air fryer, and it's amazing. It's so cool. I'm all in. Will you send me the model after the show today? I will send you the model.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I will absolutely say it. I'll put in our Discord right now, as a matter of fact. That's great. That's how great I am. Gore-G-G-R-G-E-R-G-E-R-G-O-G-O-G-E-R-G-E-O-G-E-O. He has a goiter, everybody. Brinton made today. He's got a goiter. Everyone look out for my... I just have to remember how to spell
Starting point is 00:14:25 Quezon Art. I don't know how you do that. Q U-U-I-S-I-N-A-R-T? Why doesn't that look... Why doesn't that look right? Is it E-N-A-R-T? Quees and Art.com. Yeah, there it is. Airfire Convection Toastroven. Number one, by the way, number one thing
Starting point is 00:14:40 when you search for quees and art on Amazon is this thing that comes up. Well, they're a brand. They're a quality brand. They are, quality brand. Yeah. They don't break. Right here. Not like Black and Decker. They're bullshit. They're bad. I'll give you a link and I'll put a link in here too. Excellent. Link for the chat room. Link for the Scott. Oh, man. Look at this. This is what the internet was made for.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Exactly. It's on sale right now. 50 bucks or 44 bucks off right now. Yeah. This is why we have the internet, everybody. Screw you, 4chan. All right, let's move on. Oh, by the way, somebody in our video yesterday, I could not get past this. So we did the show. I post the show after we're done to YouTube. Okay. The reason in chat room, well, they all know this. The reason we don't play music live and they're not on the YouTube channels because we get in trouble for that stuff. So we don't. Anyway, that's nothing to do with the story. I post up the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And I always like to check comments throughout the day If we're getting something on Facebook or on YouTube And YouTube's can be fishy But most of the time you guys are fine over there I get this one yesterday It says Spoiler alert They were super political today
Starting point is 00:15:46 Were we? And I went Okay hold on Let me think How are we political At all yesterday? I don't think we said one thing About anything to do with politics
Starting point is 00:15:58 In fact, me just referring to it today Is more than we would have ever said yesterday so what did we say I talked about going to concerts with masks and stuff and going to movie theaters with masks Is that what they mean? Is that what they mean? If that's what they mean
Starting point is 00:16:14 then he can go suck on a butter bullet, okay? I don't have time for people who think that's political suck on a butter bullet Yeah but give us a break we're in the middle of a world where there's a thing happening and you can go pretend it isn't happening all you want but if we make a reference to a mask,
Starting point is 00:16:32 it's not political, if that's what he means. If that dude's listening right now, and I assume he is, because he heard it yesterday, could you just fill me in? Like, citation, please? Like, what did we say?
Starting point is 00:16:43 What did we have a discussion about? Yeah. I don't think we'd talk about anything. And that is the problem. I mean, Dice Tomato nails it on the head. Masks, vaccines,
Starting point is 00:16:53 and this is nothing new to anybody, but should never have been politicized. It should have never been a left or, right, conservative, liberal, Republican Democrat issue, vaccines and masks. Never, ever should have been it, and we would be done with it by now. Yeah. We would have been done with it. We would all been, like, back to normal, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:16 We'd be saying, hey, it wasn't Vegas great in the last few months ago. Can't wait to go again. It'll be great to see everybody there again. Exactly. We'd be having all that. I would have had nerdtacular in 2021. Like, we would have done it. So, yeah, whatever that was, dude, I can't help you.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Plus, you've got to say more than just, spoiler, they got totally political. I know, exactly. Yeah, I was trying to think, was there a question in the, I know, we didn't get political, but we did get non-factual. We did get incorrect about our, the multiplier of bacteria, right? Like we were saying, 700 times the bacteria in your headphones, blah, blah, blah. And either you or Dunaway said something like, oh, it's like 700. percent or 200 percent something like that yeah and i didn't even think about it at the time i went along with it and i'm the one who got called out on twitter hey brian how many emails did you get
Starting point is 00:18:10 about confusing 200 percent with 200 times oh what you mean come i was the one who said it i didn't correct the guys and i think i probably repeated at one point yeah but um i think you said times i think we said percent i think so and yeah and whatever you know it doesn't matter but we all know 200% is 2x, not 200x. Yeah. Yeah, well, the fun part is I went and looked at that guy's comment history on other videos, and this, all he does is just... Oh, this spoiler political guy? Yeah, so I don't know why I'm giving him any airtime today, but it just annoyed me and it's stuck in my product.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I had a rotten day yesterday. I had a headache all day. I couldn't get rid of it. And then this guy, and I feel much better today. So middle finger to Jim Bob there on YouTube. All right, moving on. I'm surprised I'm not grumpier today because... I got the lack of sleep today that you got yesterday.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Oh, no, I'm sorry. The dog was doing a mix of sleep barking and growling in the middle of the night. Then she got up, and it sounded like she was hacking up a lung. So I had to get up with my phone, turn the flashlight on, and scope the carpet to see what she coughed up. She didn't cough up anything. She's looking at me like, I'm fine. What's your problem? I mean, you know, it was after 10 minutes of,
Starting point is 00:19:22 And plus I didn't go to bed right away because I was watching my show, one of my two shows that I'm doing for Recommendals tomorrow. And the episode ended in a place that's like, oh, I can't leave it like that. I have to watch the next episode. And so I watched the next episode. And that put me an extra hour. That's me all the time. And it's like it wouldn't actually kill me away today.
Starting point is 00:19:51 but I feel like I just have to, you know. Yes. No, I can't go to, I couldn't go to bed with Alex in the place that she was. That's all I'm going to say. I don't think that gives anything away to people. Well, I think things away to people who've seen the show, and you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, and as far as I know, Alex Albisu likes to be called him or, uh, he. But it's fine, it's fine, you know, I don't, you know, he doesn't care, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:20:15 He can be whatever he wants. Hey, let's get to some hot sauces, Scott. Yeah, check this out. So carry, not the carry that we, it's not Carrie. No, and I was going to look this up. It's not Cleo Carey. Different carry. It's a different carry.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And, and the, you know how Amazon sends you a little sheet? That sheet said, TIA, TIA. Oh, okay. And I'm like, TIA. Okay, so now I don't know who this is from. And I didn't know that was, I'm like, oh, Tia, well, okay. But then I use the. my phone on that QR code that's on the sheet that says, hey, thank you if you want.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And that came up with Kerry, I'm sorry, K-E-R-R-R-Y, which is the way Cleo spells it. So I got on Twitter and said, hey, thanks, Cleo for the hot sauces. Not thinking that, I don't know, maybe there's another Cleo out there. Sure. Yeah, I saw your post and I went, oh, okay, well, then it is Kerry, but then you told it yesterday it wasn't Carrie. Yeah, so, and I'm looking back and seeing, like, all right, have we gotten emails from another carry who listens to TMS. I can't find it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So anyway. Kia, Carrie Tia, if that is your real full name, thank you for what we're about to do. So we got to play this. Take this. It's for you. It's food. All right. So someone sent us, this person sent us, Alice Cooper hot sauces. Now, did you know Alice Cooper was in this business? Did you know? I didn't know hot sauce is I know he has a, speaking of hot dogs. I know he has a hot dog restaurant in Chicago where he's from.
Starting point is 00:21:46 and it's like Cooper dogs or something like that, and it's very well regarded. He still live in... Vincent Fernier, Alice Cooper's real name. Doesn't he still live in... He lives in a big, huge place in Arizona, I thought. Doesn't he? Oh, does he?
Starting point is 00:22:04 I thought he did. I thought he lived there. Is it in Arizona, not Chicago? Maybe he... Maybe it is. Maybe he's got the hot dog place in Chicago, but he... I don't know, you know, he's Alice Cooper. He can do whatever he wants it.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah, you know what? I'm looking it up because I... I thought it was in, let's see, Alice Cooper, hot dog. Careful, Rule 34 is going to slap me across the face of that one. Cooperstown, I'm sorry, it is. It was in Phoenix. That's in Phoenix, okay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:31 All right. So you were absolutely right, Scott. Not in. We drove past this house once when we were in Arizona, and I remember we were trying, I can't remember what we were trying to do. We were trying to get his attention or I was young and stupid, and we were trying to make noise, and I don't remember what we did, but he never showed up, so there's that. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So it's called Cooperstown, and sadly it closed in 2017. So if you wanted to go there, I'm afraid you can't. Yeah, you're screwed. Now, part of this lineup, we have mild, or is it called it mild, Alice Cooper's, Welcome to My Nightmare, Mild Hot Sauce. These are all named after Alice Cooper songs. And it looks like a greenish chili or something. Yeah, like a smoked Chipotle color.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yep. Alice Cooper.com. They make these in Charlottesville or Charlottville of Charlotte, sorry, North Carolina. I keep saying Ville. I don't know why. Then you got the medium, which just looks like, what do you call it?
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's like Chaloola. It looks like Frank's Red Hot is the color. Yeah, that's the, and the smell. I whiffed it. No more Mr. Nice Guy. That's the medium. No more. Mr. Nice guy.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And then the third one, which, as you can tell, some has been gone because my son yesterday when he came by. We got Reaper hot sauce called Poison. Does he have a song called Poison? Yeah, he does. Okay. I am not familiar enough with the...
Starting point is 00:23:54 The Library of Alice Cooper. Yeah, his bibliography or whatever. So we both brought some sort of cracker item and... You know, I will say, looking at the ingredient list, I'm impressed with Mr. Cooper. The ingredients on the hot one is just vinegar, Reaper Chili's, sugar, salt, garlic, black pepper, spices, lemon, extract, that's it. No, weird chemicals, hard things to pronounce, et cetera. That's good. Yeah, because they're all like that. I'm like really short. How old is he now? He's like in his 70s, right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah, I think so. I just want to look real quick. He is high 60, upper 60s? No, low 70s, 73 years old. Wow. Born in 48. I don't know, I just think that guy's got a weird, cool career. He really does. It's weird, and it shouldn't be, like, this should be a joke, but I'm kind of excited to try this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. All right. So, Nick said they were really good. We're not taking his word for it. We're going to eat these ourselves. So do you want to start mild and work our way to hot? Let's start with mild. I'm getting a Tabasco from the mild smell.
Starting point is 00:25:20 A little bit of, um, yeah. Ooh, if that's mild, we're in trouble. Hmm. Yeah, hold on. Yeah. I'm no kidding. That's mild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And it's leaving, uh, there's some, there's some lasting, uh, lasting, uh, lasting pain with that. I'm not really careful. You're going to be careful here with medium and hot now. Okay. A little coffee. Watch that down. I actually recommend that. That's very good.
Starting point is 00:25:52 That is very good. That'll be good on some eggs. Yeah. Oh. I'm making scrambled eggs for lunch. That's what I'm doing. There you go. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:26:00 All right. Let's go to no more Mr. Mice guy. Mr. Mice guy. Mr. Mice guy. Mr. Micex. All right. Let's do it. No more Mr.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Nice guy medium. Ooh. the other one didn't have a little stopper like this one actually has the little stopper that keeps you from getting a lot oh yeah why I guess that one's just not as hot or whatever and more kind of we're babies
Starting point is 00:26:27 so all right here we go I feel like I'm going to die on this one hotter hotter definitely not as hot as the mild not lasting hot Um A more tart Tart flavor.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Definitely tart. Mm-hmm. Ooh, I like it. I know that's a lot of vinegar, but if you do it right, I like that. Mm-hmm. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Get some carnitas that'll be awesome on. Yeah, that, ooh, so you're good at knowing what the other dish should be. The pairing. Yeah. I'm not good at that. Scoop a chocolate, scoop of vanilla. Don't waste my time.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, I'm not good at it. I'm, like, pour it into a spoon and eat it like soup kind of guy. All right, poison. All right, poison. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. It does not have a stopper.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, and it has chunks. It's got stuff in it. It's got stuff in it. Yeah. Oh, Lord. We're all going to die. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:27:27 All right. So far so good. Like those other two, they're not killer. They don't overstay they're welcome, you know? Mm. Yeah. Start's nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 This doesn't have a stopper. Oh. Okay, yep. Yeah, does that one get you? Oh, shit, I'm nervous. This is where the top of my head feels like it's constricting. Hmm. Like my skin on my head is going...
Starting point is 00:27:54 Oh, that's hot. What is it? Is it the Carolina Reaper in there? Yeah, that's the Reaper. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Oh, that's very good. Boy, is it, is it, it's got some heat to it. Yeah, nice flavor, but Nick handled it better than I did. He seemed to be pretty chill with it. My pain, your thrill, it says on the back. That's the lyrics from the song. Oh, is it? How about this one?
Starting point is 00:28:31 I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing. Is that from a music song? Yeah, that's the opening line from No More Mr. Naskai. How about I think you're going to like it? That's the line that follows, Welcome to My Nightmare. Welcome to my nightmare. I think you're going to like it. Okay, now I hear it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 All right, well, that one sticks around. Are these the kind that need to be refrigerated after you open them? Well, I don't think so. First of all, they don't say so, but all those ingredients look like you just leave them out. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I like when you don't have to refrigerate. I don't know. Let's have a little water.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, it's, uh, the flavors are great, though. You know what? I'm kind of, I'm kind of impressed. I like a good hot sauce. I think the, I think I'm going to use that mild most often. All that medium is really good. The medium is really good. The medium is really good. The medium is milder, in my opinion, than the mild. The hot one is for psychos. Yeah. Like, you give that to Alice Cooper and he dies. at 72. Don't give it to him. Try to avoid giving Alice Cooper his own medicine
Starting point is 00:29:46 if you know what I mean. Oh, I know. So do you not refrigerate any hot sauce? We have Chalula in the fridge for some reason. Chalula, we don't. Because it's fine staying out. The stuff we do refrigerate are ones that include, forget which ingredients you have to be careful with.
Starting point is 00:30:02 But they almost always say keep refrigerating. Yeah, tapio doesn't need to be. Yeah. Like, yeah, none of them. Tabasco's find out like that. Although there's a version of Tabasco that you're supposed to use a steak.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That's exactly what they said, yes. According to the Michelheny Company's instructions, refrigerating your hot sauce is the best way to prevent the color change. Oh, okay. Well, probably doesn't hurt to, probably doesn't hurt to refrigerate them, you know, put them in there and just keep them there. Yeah, but doesn't...
Starting point is 00:30:31 Oh, that one hung around a little too long. Yeah. All right. Yeah, nothing... All right, well, there you go. There you go. Keep them in you on your table. Chulula says, consume it within six months of opening.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Tapadios is about two years. Two years, geez. Make them the last. All right. Now this. It's time for the morning news, and it's brought to you by. By something else that's hot. Soundography, hot off the presses with a brand new season.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And what we're doing is something brand new. We're kicking off this season with a revisit of season one. Ever since we did season one, a lot of those bands that we mentioned have come out with new material. And we talk about all that new material and what those bands have been up to. So folks like Spice Girls and Talk Talk and Kevin Gilbert, well, nothing new from Kevin Gilbert because he died. But a lot of those bands, we talk about what they've been up to since season one. And that is the first episode of the brand new season of Soundography. You'll find that at Soundography.com hosted by Hammond Chamberlain and myself.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Very nice. Get your music on, everyone. That is exactly right. Here's your story. First story of the day. A woman was charged for not charged money. Or was it money? I think she was charged money.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah, she was charged money. It's funny how this headline, it sounds like she did something illegal. But anyway, a woman was charged for crying during surgery. Was she a surgeon? That would make some sense, right? Yeah, I would. If she was the patient, too, I could see somebody's in trouble if you're the patient crying. But anyway, don't cry during a stressful or painful medical procedure unless you're willing to pay extra. One woman learned that the hard way when she went to her doctor to get a mole removed.
Starting point is 00:32:22 She cried at one point during the operation. And her bill, which she posted to Twitter, showed an $11 charge for, quote, brief emotion, unquote. That's my favorite Erosmith's song. Oh, brief emotion. Yeah, that was before they sold out. great then. It really was, yeah. Anyway, let's see.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And a billing code of CPT code 96127, whatever that is. She got off easy, according to the Mentagram article called CPT and code 96217, how to increase revenue with this new behavioral and emotional
Starting point is 00:32:57 assessment. So this is something some doctors, family practitioners, and such are doing. It is a code that may be used to report brief behavioral or emotional assessments or for reimbursement. and quote, maybe billed four times for each patient per visit, utilizing four different instruments or assessments.
Starting point is 00:33:17 So if I go in there and they're going to take like this big dumb mole I have on my head right here off, and if I go, they're going to go, right, 11 bucks, stop him up. He reacted. Do you think, no, I could see it if they had to, I don't know. I mean, it's hard for me to justify this. if they had to stop and like give her something because she's crying like oh are you feeling pain do we need to adjust stuff and and it added extra time to the surgery i mean even that i can't see being i agree it sucks it's bad it sucks the whole thing sucks i would fight it if i were her and it's also there are plenty of people with like legitimate like needle phobias and things and now if they're freaking out and having like a gotta pin him down and make a video for tic-tock style freak out i get it okay that's different but if this just has too much leeway because if somebody goes, oh, is it going to hurt? Is it going to hurt? Is it going to hurt? Is that an emotional freak out?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Right, exactly, yes. Even if they didn't move? Wincing. Yes. What if they winced because you're a bad shot? How about that? Right. Somebody did, I missed, there we go, a Benjin. It's $11 for flinching. Yeah. Like the punch in the arm. It's two for flinching. I mean, last time I got my blood work done, the girl wasn't as good of a phlobotomist as the last one. And I hurt. And I didn't flinch, but I kind of went like that. And she goes, oh, does that hurt?
Starting point is 00:34:43 I said, yeah, that one got me pretty good. And then that was it. And we moved on. I think it's only fair if we get a discount, if they show any emotion. Yeah, there you go. They open you up and go, that is a big guiter. Then you can say, ah, you showed emotion, 11 bucks. Discount.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Shock and awe, you $11 doctor shock. Yeah, look at the size. of his kidney. Up, ding! $15.15. Hopefully you have a very emotional doctor, and by the end, you're just neutralized the entire cost. Those doctors on mash. Suction! Give me suction!
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah, our health care system is kind of jacked. It has been forever. It's not even a system, okay? This is the thing I'm... Spoiler. TMS gets political today, too. Oh, yeah. Is this also political somehow? Hmm. Look, I can tell you that it's always been bad. Since World War II, when they decided
Starting point is 00:35:35 that it should never be a national concern It always should be just a thing you had to worry about if you never made enough money or whatever. And it's just gotten progressively worse. Every year things go up by like exponential amounts. It doesn't make any sense. It's not a system. It's an industry. It's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:35:51 There's no system. We work around it and build systems to accommodate it. But it's not a health care system. We don't have that. We have health care chaos. There I got political. Take that YouTube guy. Fingers up your butt.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I don't know. Look on that, butter bullet. Think on that. Three dead, hundreds injured after storms, roused scorpions in Egypt. This sounded apocalyptic. It is. It sounds biblical. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Oh, yeah. Big time. Three people are dead. Hundreds are injured after an incident, or sorry, after inclement weather, roused hordes of venomous scorpions out of their hiding places and into the streets and homes in Egypt. Vicious rain, dust storms, and vicious rain? How can you call it vicious? That implies the, this rain had autonomy and was like,
Starting point is 00:36:37 like, you know, sentient sentiently saying, I'm going to be terrible to you today. Well, uh, yeah, I mean, isn't there punishing rain? You hear punishing rain all the time. I could hear, I could, see, that makes sense because you are being, you feel punished by a natural occurrence, but it isn't that the rain went out one day and said, I'm going to punish me. It's not malicious rain. Are you confusing vicious and malicious? Maybe. I think they're close. Because vicious implies intent. Doesn't vicious imply intent? Doesn't vicious imply intent? kind of does a little vicious i think it can be like aggressive rain uh well here's the important part today i woke up and i ran animal crossing and in the tent was that cocoa character that
Starting point is 00:37:21 everybody wants and nobody can get and i got her okay oh really yeah all right so i'm just putting that what is she she's a coconut rabbit what thing she's a coconut rabbit yeah so she's made out of wood and she has wooden long ears and she looks like a coconut uh head and then she was in my tent and i and and and and carter flipped out she's like that's cocoa and i went oh is this one of the oh bad bad bad she's freaking out so i played like five card games lost most of them finally convinced her to stay kicked out phil whoever the hell that was no no attachment to phil yeah she's a coconut rabbit man and i have her she's mine nice job i was really happy when i got the um the cat that wears glasses sounds like an old disney film from the seventies the cat that
Starting point is 00:38:04 He wears glasses, like, I can't remember his name. That's a popular one, too. Raymond. It is a popular. Raymond, thank you, yes. I got Raymond. I've never seen Raymond. Yeah, poor Phil.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Somebody, somebody, please feed Phil. He's leaving my island, whoever he was. I think he was a bird or some shit. I don't know what he was. All right. Anyway, Carter, sorry, you didn't get him. Don't let the sea plane hit you on the way out, Phil. Nope.
Starting point is 00:38:34 wheels up and get a snack or whatever he always said. All right. Moving on. Where was I? Oh, these scorpions. Oh, yeah, scorpions, yes. We need the rock. We need the scorpion king to come in and corral all the scorpions.
Starting point is 00:38:48 They only listen to the king. They won't. The king. They don't do things on their own. According to BBC news, citing an unnamed health official talking about this thing, people have been injured by the sting such far. 450 of those people, by the way. Three of them died.
Starting point is 00:39:04 from the stings. I mean, if you suddenly flushed out, I don't know, thousands of these things into the street, what would you actually freaking do? Yeah, move, if I could. Yeah, get out. Just get out.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I mean, let's say it wasn't scorpions. Let's look at, you know, something local. Let's say it's a bunch of spiders. And the rain, you know, lots of rain forced all these spiders to come out into the streets and into people's homes.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah, I think, um, I mean, were they all there and they all? Did you all know? I would like to ask those people, did you know that just under the surface hundreds of thousands of scorpions
Starting point is 00:39:40 were just waiting to be flushed out by pad weather? Right? Oh my God, they're kidding. I don't like this at all. This is a bad story. This is a... Hey, call me when the rain's over. Go on to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:39:53 See you. Yep. See you later. I'm going to go live in the Luxor, oddly enough. Ironically, go live in the Luxor for a few weeks. I wonder what actual Egyptian
Starting point is 00:40:04 folks, people from Egypt and that part of Northern Africa, I wonder if they come to the Luxor on a trip to Vegas and just go, pf. Yeah, I'm sure they do. It's got to be less now than it was when that thing first opened, because when it first opened, it was
Starting point is 00:40:20 completely themed inside and out. Yeah. I liked it. And, of course, now, obviously, you can't really change the shape of a pyramid really easily, and they still have the sphinx in the front and a few statues inside, but it's, they've taken out so much of the theming, side, which I don't understand. I think you lean into that. That's the fun of it. I think so, too. That's what people go into your casino. That's what draws them in is like, oh, I want to go see the theme. They used to have a, they used to have a moat, a boat ride that went around the inside perimeter of the Luxor. I did that once. It was great. Yeah. It was great. It was fun. I miss that. I think, I think if you have a big pyramid, you should pretend like it's a pyramid. And if you don't, then what are you even doing? Plus, it's kind of gross now. It's not great. You used to be. You know, actually, actually,
Starting point is 00:41:04 Actually, Luxor, I don't think it's that bad. It's certainly not as bad as the Excalibur next to it. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Stayed in there recently, and they had redone the rooms and redone the inside. Like, it's not the worst place on the strip. Certainly, by a long shot, maybe upper, bottom half. You could go to Circus, Circus, and that's where you want to die. You want to die there.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah, you want to die in Circus, Circus. In a pile of meth. I'd even say the link is room-wise is in the middle to lower bottom half. Yeah, you saved me on that, by the way. I thought we were getting such a deal. I'm like, yeah, we'll be in the link. It's going to be great. Yeah, I mean, because you think, right, all that cool stuff is outside.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You've got that set of retail and restaurant stuff and the zip line and the giant Ferris wheel or observation wheel. And then you go inside and it's, it is concrete walls and. It's like school dorm kind of level. Yeah. What's going on there? It's weird. Whatever. Vegas is weird.
Starting point is 00:42:09 It's a land of contradictions, that place. Yeah. Trenched wildfire agree. And I would actually put, I would put bally's. So, uh, drenched wildfire in the chairroom says, Vegas lower tier. Luxor, greater than Excalibur, greater than Circus, circus. I would agree. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Wholeheartedly with those three. Yeah. And I would put bally's, um, just above Excalibur. Um, what else would be below lexor for me link obviously um how's the how's the the the the stratosphere as far as the hotel part is any good i've never stayed in there but if if it's any indication probably in that same range the ballies level yeah that i haven't heard of them doing any sort of uh room um room we never talked about this but a guy a guy did bronis
Starting point is 00:43:02 Ryan's famous jump, but without the harness and, uh, go's death. Oh, God. Yes. Yeah. Well, that happened. Yeah, it went, uh, yo, geez. I can't. Can you imagine? I mean, you can't imagine. You were up there. I can't imagine. Yeah. And, and I bet for those, uh, for those first few seconds, it was exhilarating. Yeah. I don't think he was, I don't think he was doing it for the exhilaration, though. I would shat myself if I did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was not, uh, that was not a, a, a, a, a, sky jump gone wrong that was somebody who somehow got over the railing on the on the amusement park deck oh of that thing and jumped yeah on purpose on purpose they were like I'm done I believe I'm out yeah exactly checking out of the stratosphere if look I'm going to say something controversial
Starting point is 00:43:57 here oh no okay I'm a big believer and people should be able to live however they want to live, all right? Yeah. And if you are, if I have whatever right I have to live the way I want to, associate everyone else. And the goal is there is the way you live, you shouldn't, it shouldn't hurt other people the way that you live. Of course, right.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So let's say that you're getting down to it. You found out you got terminal cancer or you go whatever, whatever, and you like, you know what? I just can't do this anymore. I don't have a ton of judgment for those people. But I guess where I draw the line is, maybe don't, I'm not saying that that's what happened here. But if you're going to do that, don't turn yourself into a human.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah, because then you got a human torpedo. People have to clean up and deal with it into the shock. Well, there also could have been somebody down there right where you landed. Right. Right. There are other people involved. It affects them in pretty major ways. And I know that just people, losing people in general affects people on very personal ways.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I'm not saying, I'm not denying that. But I guess what I'm saying to anyone out there, just don't, you know, don't involve the rest of us. that sounds wrong i'd take it all back no but it's you know that there's something to be said for that right like uh yeah i don't know that's weird um and maybe if you're even thinking of that route seek some counseling get some help oh absolutely yeah hang out with us that should be your first that should be your first stop before listen to tms we're very give me something that i have to clean up right we are we are yes number one is try to get some help uh you know we we're we've had plenty. Look, we've had numerous people email us and say, your show saved me from suicide.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yes. And hey, if we say a bunch of dumb things for an hour and a half every day and that keeps you guys on an even kill, then I am. That makes me happier than I can tell you. We'll continue to do this show forever. Right. But if you're 90 and you're like, nothing's working right, I'm peeing in the bed every night. I'm, I can barely move. My brain's going. Everything's going. I got eight different kind of cancers. I can't treat any of them because I'm not. 90. Like, at that point, I get it, man. Get Kvorki in that business up if you want to. It should be your choice to do that. And it should be in a controlled medical environment. And now that guy on YouTube can say we got political somehow again. We should, yeah. Spoiler alert. They talk about suicide for eight minutes. Yeah, for eight whole minutes. All right. All right, let's move on. Let's move on to this. Amy is asking. Amy's begging us to move on. Yeah, we're moving on.
Starting point is 00:46:26 We're going to move on. How about this one? Seven plane crashes in seven days. So this isn't that much better, although no one died. Nobody died. On a happier note. Yeah. Nobody died in this story, I promise. Seven plane crashes in seven days for a pilot, same pilot, ends at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
Starting point is 00:46:45 If you survive one plane crash in your lifetime, you're considered pretty lucky. When you survive seven in a week, the person who wrote this article says, I'm not traveling with you. That man's name was Harrison Ford. There you go. Licensed pilot Dennis Collier, Collier, Collier, Collier, Collier, was a proud new owner of an amphibious airplane called the Sea Wind 3,000. He went to California to check out the beautiful aircraft had not flown for years, though.
Starting point is 00:47:11 In fact, the aircraft had only had a total of 20 hours of flight time in its lifetime, the plane not him. Crash number one was the first of seven crashes happened while attempting to land after a test flight in California. The landing gear was still up, and it banged the plane up pretty good. Nobody's injured. It doesn't say whether or not. but he thought the landing gear was down or if he just forgot to lower the landing gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 So there it is. Number two. The engine stalled, causing the plane to come down hard beside a runway in New Mexico, taking out a sign and runway lights. Again, no injury is reported. All right, there's number two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Number three. We know for sure that this crash also took place in the same airport. In New Mexico, it's crash number two. However, it's unclear exactly what happened, but there was a third crash. Number four. After leaving New Mexico and being in the air for a couple of hours, more problems arose. The left wing hinged tab was stuck and the plane was pitching up.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It took all the pilot strength and control the aircraft in four attempts to land. The landing in Nebraska was a very rough one. Number five. After repairs, Collier performed a test flight that ended in yet another crash in Nebraska. Man, this is rough. Six. I'd like to, I'm going to raise my hand here and say, maybe we just need to, redefine a crash
Starting point is 00:48:29 because landing hard on a runway is not a crash. I don't know what, yeah. Do we have any pilots in the chat or anybody who listens to the show that knows what you're supposed to call this? Is there, can we,
Starting point is 00:48:43 is there something between successful landing and crash that we can label these as? No kidding. Because it's bad. Now this last one, this last one, well, number six was another one
Starting point is 00:48:54 where he did a nose hit landing. Again, it was a landing, but a hard one and it broke things up. up crash number seven is the final one the week's long nightmare ended on the fourth of july in lake michigan sea wind three thousand had so many recent issues the landing gear had been deployed the pilot promised the fAA he would keep the landing gear down for its 25 minute flight he did not know when he made this promise that he would be doing an emergency water landing due to the wing flaps not responding
Starting point is 00:49:17 the landing gear caused the plane to go vertically into the water nose first somehow he yet again remains uninjured once again in his seventh crash or seventh rough thing. However, the plane that should be able to float is now at the bottom of Lake Michigan. So we're done with that plane. It's done. It's no longer amphibious at all. It does so. It sounds like, yeah, it confirms that the landing gear
Starting point is 00:49:39 deploying was an issue, not the pilot, not pilot error. Yeah. At least that that part. Yeah, I know, right? What an insane fun time for that guy. I'm going to decide not to buy your plane. Thanks. Yeah, I think I've changed my mind.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I like my money back. Yeah. This plane's sucks. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk to Bill about making some stuff. Also, we'll get a quick email from him from a listener. So we'll throw that at him at the top of the show. He doesn't even know it's coming. So that'll be fun. And some signs with Bobby, assuming his 20-miler went okay. I guess we won't know until he gets here. Oh, yeah, right. He even warned me. He's like, I'm planning on being there, but who knows how I'm going to feel. I'm like, all right, well, let's play it by ear and see how it goes. So that'll be coming up next. Before all that, though, Brian has prepared a song, I assume.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Prepared. The following song, please. Be seated for the following. We're going to Toronto for this one. This is a pop song that is hooky as hell. I love it. It's got some, I don't know, some burden the bee kind of feel to it, a little bit of Lily Allen. It's just right, talk about right up my alley. And hopefully, it's right up yours as well. It's a Toronto artist named Chiara Young, C-H-I-A-R-A-Young. Big things to Earshot, media for sending this one over. A brand new single that she's released called Stupid Happy, and I'll tell you, it's an accurately named song. This song is Stupid Happy. I totally dig it. This comes following her previous track, I Don't Wear Skirts, which Hollywood Life called a guitar-powered anthem about feeling happy in your own skin.
Starting point is 00:51:20 She's collaborated with the folks from Walk Off the Earth, and this is her sophomore effort, How to Lose People. is slated for release next spring via Golden Carrot Records. Here's Chiara Young and Stupid Happy. go away just hide it with a smile that's on my face you hurt me just because i let you but i'm so stupid happy that i'm here even when it hurts i don't really care but i'm so stupid happy that i'm here even though it rolls me down it can slow me now because i'm so stupid happy that i'm here I'm so stupid happy then
Starting point is 00:52:30 And maybe I'll see you At our secret place With someone new You're showing off I walk by Won't be losing sleep Already said goodbye Feelings
Starting point is 00:52:46 They won't go away Just hide it with a smile That's on my face You hurt me Just because I let you But I'm so stupid happy that I'm here even when it hurts
Starting point is 00:53:02 I don't really care but I'm so stupid happy that I'm here even though it rolls me down it can stop me now because I'm so stupid happy that I'm here but I'm so stupid happy
Starting point is 00:53:19 that I'm here I'm so stupid happy that I'm here I'm so stupid happy that I'm here We started out What the hell I didn't think you'd waste my time again You hurt me Just because I love you
Starting point is 00:53:38 But I'm so stupid happy that I'm here Even when it hurts I don't really care But I'm so stupid happy that I'm here Even though it rolls me down, it can start me now, because I'm so stupid happy than I'm here. Hey, you guys, you like business, right? You like business wars?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Well, good news. The newest edition of Wondery's Business Wars podcast is here. And they're looking at how BlackBerry and, you know, if you guys remember, BlackBerry was like the bomb. But then Apple came and said, hey, what about touch technology? And then Android came and the, well, you know, it was a big crazy thing. And it put the power of smartphones in the pockets of billions of people worldwide. Back of the early 2000s, the BlackBerry had revolutionized how we communicate. It seems standard now, but BlackBerry's ability to allow users to text and send emails was actually a giant game changer.
Starting point is 00:54:55 They were the first mobile device really out there that could sync with work emails, have it go right to your phone. And so people weren't chained to their desk so much. As the Gold Standard, every power player from D.C. to N.Y.C. to L.A. had a BlackBerry. However, it wasn't long before Steve Jobs and Apple thought they could outperform them with a vote of their own. Just when Blackberry thought they had the market cornered, Apple launched the iPhone in 2007, and the rest is history. Learn about that history and why it was cool. I remember that whole fight. It was kind of ugly for a while.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But I think everybody should listen to this show. Listen to Business Wars on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen to Ad Free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app. Go check it out. Business Wars. Catch it. little dog you've got there. But hold on. In a previous life, he could have been George Washington. Nice cat. Perhaps Annie Oakley? And look at him why it's Napoleon. Reincarnation. What human being was your pet in a previous lifetime? Master reincarnationist E. David Scott will tell you when you
Starting point is 00:56:00 call this number. Just answer simple questions with your touchtone phone. A dollar 95 per minute for entertainment only under 18 get permission. Call now. Learn who your pet was as a human in a previous lifetime. We sure did get some Thai food and it's so delicious to me. I'm getting too old for this shit. This is the morning stream. All right, we're back everybody. Brian, please remind us once again that song and who did it? Happy to do that. That's such. Chiara Young and her song Stupid Happy, a brand new single that she's released. By the way, that Fletcher clip reminded me, did you hear that Lethal Weapon 5 is now in the works, directed by none other than Mel Gibson?
Starting point is 00:56:53 I did hear this, so I guess he's going to also come back and be in it, but also direct it. Right, exactly. Did you say, we hear anything about Danny Glover? Is he involved or back? I can't imagine he wouldn't be, right? I feel like that's a... Yeah, you got to pull him back here. It's a lock. They wouldn't do it if they couldn't get both of them, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah. I don't know why. That actually got me really excited. And I know he's a problematic guy in Hollywood. I know. I know. I do like the fact that he keeps trying to get us to love him again. Like it's almost like, look, I made a movie about a beaver. Is that good? Is that good enough? What did you guys think of the Beaver movie? I've played Santa in this one, an angry Santa. How's that? Is that good? What do you want for me, people? I mean, I admit, that was last year, I guess, right? I enjoyed that, that weird Santa did too. Yeah. It was stupid and over the top and dumb, but I liked it. I didn't see the beaver one, but you and I both saw that Santa thing. It was pretty good. Yeah, the beaver one will probably end up on film sack at some point. But, yeah, I don't know how it'll go.
Starting point is 00:57:46 But, yeah, I heard that and I just thought, oh, okay, sure. Why not? Go ahead. Just don't say a bunch of anti-Semitic bullshit around it, okay? Just make the movie and move on. All right? All right. Getting political again.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Okay, let's get Bill all up in it. Yes. He's very patiently over there, I believe. Hold on a second. I just realized. Waiting patiently. Patiently. Patient Bill, they call him in some circles.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I was almost doing an end of waiting patiently. Patiently. Bill. Effing guy. There it is. Your bat caves open there, Bill. Hey, it's Bill Duran, everybody, from Punish Props.com and the Pacific Northwest home of Punish Props. And it's good to have you here.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Bill, how you doing? Good morning, doing pretty good. Just did a long road trip with Bertrand Brother. We moved an old family piano from New York State to Washington State. Whoa. So I drove past Alia. We waved when we went by. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I didn't see you. I really looked. Did you pass right through? I thought I heard something. You passed right through Salt Lake City. I assume you're on I-15 probably, right? No, I-90 the whole way. Oh, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 That'd be the way because you get some faster route. That's too bad because we've had some of the clearest beautiful, like, mountain skies lately. It's been amazing. You would have loved it. through there. All right. I was going to say, I wanted to do this. Well, let me ask you a question that I want to read you an email. All right. The question is, when you and your brother get together for something like moving a piano across the country, do you use the opportunity to play any pranks on people with the whole twin business? Do you do any of that on the way? Like stop at a Denny's
Starting point is 00:59:24 and go, you know, do some kind of trick where you ordered, but then you switch seats and then the lady's not sure because his hair's a little longer than yours and, you know, all that. Do you guys ever do that? Yeah. We were boring. We never really did that, even growing up. I personally was just sick of people confusing me with another human
Starting point is 00:59:43 my whole life. So, I don't know, I just, I wanted to be my own person, Scott. I just wanted to be an individual. Now, however, on the way through, we did, like, we stopped for breakfast, like 15 minutes from my friend David's house. And he had not met my twin brothers.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And so I specifically did tell him that it was my twin brother. Just to have a moment where he looked at my twin and said, I feel like I've met you before. I did do that. Okay. That's good. That's cool. Well, that sounds like fun brotherly time was spent and good times. All right, I got a quick email. I haven't even warned you about this. Joe sent this in. It's not really anything that needs a warning. But he says, I'm a little behind on TMS at episode TMS 2202. And I'm sorry if this has been suggested already. You expressed an interest to Bill a desire to try metal cutting lathe
Starting point is 01:00:34 like your dad's. May I suggest that you look for a maker space near you? Not only will you have access to machinery without buying them, but there will also be folk there who will hold your hand and give you the benefit of their knowledge. Generally, there are many maker slash crafter regimes to sample, i.e. woodcraft,
Starting point is 01:00:50 leather, modeling, etc. I'm sure Bill could set you up. P.S., may I suggest you look up this old Tony on YouTube? He is a creative and amusing bloke. Cheers, LLAP. I don't know what that means. L-L-A-P. Live long and prosper. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Geez, Star Trek Man over there with a quick answer, and that was good. And Joe C wrote this in. So I thought this would be just a good time, because you've talked about this before. Right, yeah. Good time to just kind of remind people that they probably don't even know it. But if they hear like your segment and go, oh, I want to make that or I want to do this, but I don't have access to this stuff, these are kind of everywhere, right? Yeah. I wonder how the pandemic has had an effect on that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 But yeah, we had a couple, I know we used to anyway, have a couple of maker spaces in Seattle. Usually there's like a monthly fee and then you can go in and use this stuff. And more importantly, have access to the people who know how to use this stuff. Especially if you live in a small apartment and can't, you know, put a four foot tall drill press in there. It's definitely worth checking out, especially if you just want to dabble. You're not sure how committed you want to be. Like I have half of my house Is full of tools
Starting point is 01:02:01 That is my life now That's just how it is And I'm okay with that Yeah Also this old Tony is probably my favorite YouTuber Oh really? If you're interested in machining at all You should go check him out
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's highly specific to me This isn't going to be He's no Mark Rover Let's say As far as like mass appeal is concerned But if you're into machining This old Tony is the best This is cool
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah I'm seeing a bunch of these And I didn't know any of these were around me. You know what I like about this old Tony? He doesn't even bother with like fancy YouTube channel page. He's just like, here's my videos. If you want these, you're fine. Take them.
Starting point is 01:02:38 A million followers and just like, yeah, here you go. I think that's great. I don't know why I admire that. I do. Everyone thinks you got to make a million silhouettes of yourself with a white border on yourself making a face and a giant text thing to the side for your thumbnail. And then you've got
Starting point is 01:02:55 to structure your videos the same and always say like and subscribe and all that stuff. I like a guy who just says, I'm putting up a thing. Yep. Not following your damn rules, internet. I like that. Something about that.
Starting point is 01:03:07 All right. Well, thank you for sending that in, Joe, and to Bill for entertaining. One here in Boulder called the Solid State Depot. And, yeah, they've got everything. 3D printers and cutters and, And this place looks like what I'd like my house to look like at something. Yeah, it probably looks like my basement.
Starting point is 01:03:35 So you go in there and you just, what, you rent the space for a while? How does it generally work? You just pay and... Yeah, they have different policies and everything depending on the place you go. Most of the time, I've seen it's been a monthly fee and then you have a certain amount of access to this stuff. Yeah. No, that's cool. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Well, good luck, everyone, and the Solid State Depot Indeux. Never. All right, moving on. Hey, Bill. Tell us what you're working on right now, speaking of making things. Well, so I keep talking about this, but I've been in Ghostbusters mode for a while now. And the movie comes out this week. And I'm very excited. So I went and made myself the most legit pair of ecto goggles I could. Now, I have to admit. We have a video, obviously over on a YouTube channel. Yeah. I've been getting a sneaky peek at this because Bill sent me a couple of texts and I cannot believe. how rad these turned out.
Starting point is 01:04:28 They're amazing, dude. I am overjoyed with how they turn out. So Spirit Halloween sells a bunch of Ghostbusters stuff, and they do sell a pair of ecto goggles. And I had intended to buy that, which I did. I have it. I was going to modify it to look more like it for the movie. And then I thought, let's do it from scratch.
Starting point is 01:04:47 What if I made it way harder? So the main body, I 3D printed it. Now you have options. You could scour the world for a genuine pair of 1960. 72a n slash pvs dash 5a night vision goggles you could do that I couldn't what the originals are based on yeah yeah I couldn't I'm fresh out I don't have any and I imagine if you do find a pair of the quite expensive
Starting point is 01:05:14 so you could also do what Adam Savage did he made a video a while back where he sculpted a solid buck the shape of the goggles and then made a vacuum form of it or you can go to think of verse where there are dozens of ectoggle files for free and you can just pick your favorite and 3D print it and that's what I did. Nice. You did a lot of sanding
Starting point is 01:05:35 to make them look all pretty. But the part I'm the most proud of, I've got to say, are the lenses and the knobs because I turned all of those out of aluminum on my lathe. We were talking about the laid last week. This is what I was working on. Yeah, they're beautiful. Your lenses alone are enough to
Starting point is 01:05:51 make me want one of these. They just look so legit, not being, you know, plastic or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That finish is like you can get pretty good with paint but the finish of the genuine aluminum like brushed metal look is just so good does it add to does it add to the weight of things aluminum's light but does it make the whole thing feel I don't know yeah yeah it's it it's it's a pretty happy medium ground because if you have like really heavy stuff on your head that's a problem if you're wearing it all day yeah but the the aluminum just feels the real the weight feels really really good
Starting point is 01:06:23 Now, the knobs, very proud of the knobs, they've got a nerled texture on them, and I love nerling. And there's a couple of different, there's a straight neural on some of them, and a diamond nerl, which is like that crosshatch looking texture you'd find on like a knob on your camera or something. Sure. And I had to go and buy a specific new nerling tool for that. Need a new nerler? Yeah, well, now I have a whole collection of nerlers. Yeah. Very excited about those.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, very cool. Cool. This thing, this little extra piece that you put on one of the lenses and you got a little vice grip holding it there and everything. I didn't realize the original design even had whatever that is. Yeah, I know. I might be wrong about this. So the original night vision goggles, it was mostly the body. The lenses on there, I believe were pulled off a microscope. I think that's how they built the original props. I might be wrong about that. So I don't know what that weird lumpy thing was on the side of it. It had to be attached later because you can't do that on the lead. But I think the solution I came up with worked out pretty well. Yeah, it looks awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And then the other thing I really love about the metal parts is they got painted. So part of them are just raw aluminum and part of them are painted black. And then I took those parts and I put them in a bucket full of metal chunks and screws. And I just kind of shook them around a bit. and the metal chunks scratched the paint and dinged up the metal a little bit but that's exactly what would happen in the real world over a long period of time
Starting point is 01:08:02 and that finished like I said like you can get pretty close with paint but boy when you do the real thing it looks perfect you know the real world of Ghostbusters yeah yeah sure it's all real I mean the hardest part is finding real ectoplasm yeah that could be because that stuff goes bad like you can't keep it on the shelf I heard a cool story yesterday that Josh Gads the voice of Muncher, the ghost character, animated ghost character in this thing, which seems fine.
Starting point is 01:08:31 This is fine pick or whatever. But I guess the way that went down is they literally were hanging around the Sony lot for separate reasons. And the director, what's his name, Jason Reitman, was just in the neighborhood and happened to see him and said, hey, dude, dude, do you want to just come over here and do like a quick test of this voice for this thing? and says, I'll totally do it. And they went and did it and boom, he's in and now he's the voice of Muncher.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I think that's great. That's awesome. That's like one of those great Hollywood stories. Yeah, I love that kind of stuff, which meant, you know, they still had to go back and go, all right, now let's go through the channels and get the agents working, you know, and all that.
Starting point is 01:09:06 But I like when they can just be creative and say, hey, I'm doing a thing. You want to be involved? Yes. All right. Let's go. Yeah. It's like podcasting.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Anyway, sorry, that was a derailment. But this is beautiful. Can you explain what the tape is for? Was that to mask it so you painted it? Is that what that is? Right. So I masked off part of the lens so that I wouldn't get any paint on it and then airbrushed the black paint on the rest of it. Gotcha. Okay. And I ended up using a bunch of other techniques on this build too, which was kind of fun. Like it was an amalgamation of a lot of the techniques I've learned over the
Starting point is 01:09:36 years. So the clear lenses were laser cut. There's the straps on there and those I had to do a bit of sewing. There's a squishy part that presses against your face. So I had to do some work with the poultry foam and like a vinyl cloth for that. And, of course, painting and weathering. So once everything was pretty much put together, I did a few passes with some acrylic paint to make it just look really dirty, which is, of course, the most fun part. What's the poultry foam?
Starting point is 01:10:03 I think I've heard of that. A paltry foam. Oh, upholstery. Poultry foam. Some kind of chicken, turkey, you know, meat-based foam. All right. Very cool. And the video's up now.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I've been showing the chat room the whole time. Oh, yeah. It looks astoundingly cool. And I'm super jealous, and you should never let that leave your site. Don't let anyone make it out or take it. It's been my constant companion for a while. It's just sitting next to it. Actually, it's hanging off my proton pack, which is next to the TV so that I see it every day.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Now, if you're going to go see that movie, you're going to cosplay up and go, or what are you going to do? Yes, and the plan is to do that tomorrow. Very excited. Yeah. You got to get pictures and stuff. Make sure you get all that. Yeah. And just a real quick thing to point out everyone watching the video, my wife, Brittany, films and edits these videos. And she's really good. She's very good. She puts a lot of effort into these. Yeah. Everyone, find yourself a companion in your life that can film and edit everything for you.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Who can stand looking at your... Mary producer. I was going to say, find somebody who can stand looking at your face for that long. Yeah. No kidding. Because at the end of the day, she's like, I did this all day and I have to sit next to you on this couch. F this. Yep. Yeah. Well, it's looking really good. Gratz on the project. It just looks insane. Thank you. And keep your eye open in your mail because there's something coming to you and I can't tell you what it is. Big surprise.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Pulling a Johnson. Let's just say it's Ghostbusters related. Anyway, hey, Bill, what else? You got a little bonus-y thing for us today? Do I ever? Our friends Evan and Caitlin make another husband-wife video-making duo. Made a video. They made the world's brightest lightsaber.
Starting point is 01:11:42 They got a crazy bright flashlight, like the kind you shouldn't. stare at because you'll go blind and they made it into a lightsaber and it's ridiculous and awesome. So those ones are the ones you always see advertised on like Instagram and stuff where it's like a trillion lumens and you can see for a hundred million miles?
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah, apparently this one they claim can light up an entire football field, this flashlight. Man, $699,669 is what they paid for that? Who needs that much light? Nobody needs that much light. No. Just buy the sun if you're going to spend that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:16 All right. Very cool. And they turn it into a lightsaber. It's amazing. All right. I'm blown away. Bill, always a pleasure. Make sure you go check out a site. It's Punishprops.com. Punish props on YouTube. You can see this latest build and many more things. So do it or be lame. If you want to be lame, that's fine. But I say go look at it. That's what I say. That's the quickest way to achieve lamdom is not to do it. That's right. You're on your way to lamedom. Bill, have a good one, man. We'll see you next week. Hello. Go do twin chicanery. My gosh, that light is cool. I want a super powerful flashlight.
Starting point is 01:12:56 What's wrong with you? Why do I want that so bad? You don't need that. I don't need it at all. But if you told me it was 50 bucks, I'd do it. Yeah. Wouldn't even think about it. And I would annoy my neighbors.
Starting point is 01:13:06 700 bucks. 700 bucks, not so much. Yeah. It's probably good for when people are looking for missing people or cops are trying to find sure a suspect or something you know i don't know i'm no cop i'm not the fuzz all right let's get uh bobby bobby's in the chat so we're good he's here he's here he's at least able to log in oh good he doesn't have to be on camera if you don't want him be he can he can just chill but let's find out what's happening here when i click this science oh look he is on camera bobby you look you look like he
Starting point is 01:13:43 just ran a marathon what's going on yeah we'll see if it's okay my internet went down like 10 minutes ago so this is lTE do i sound right you're on your phone yeah you sound okay you sound like you're on a phone but you sound fine it's good enough and you and i have the same taste in ikea display units yeah yeah right there yeah exactly very nice i always want is that wrong that i always want those fake tvs and fake uh no nothing wrong with that at all i love that stuff Well, what are you going to do with it? I don't know. Nothing good.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Exactly. That's the problem is, you know. I know. I don't have enough crap, Brian. You know I have enough crap. I can't do it. Yeah, exactly. That's why Tina yells at me.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Well, Bobby's back. He's our science correspondent. Comes on the show on Tuesdays and shares scientific knowledge with us. And, of course, runs a podcast about science as well called All Around Science. And he ran a huge marathon today thing. Not a marathon. Well, what is it? That was the marathon, right?
Starting point is 01:14:38 No, no, no. The marathon is 26.2 miles. It was my longest training run. in the whole 30 week training process it was 20 miles so definitely long i woke up at 5 o'clock this morning and because you have to i was treating this run as sort of a a total dry run like let's treat it like it's the marathon do everything i'm going to do on the marathon and see where like weaknesses in my prep are and stuff like that and um so i got up you want to get up and make sure you eat something like two to three hours before you start your run and all this kind of
Starting point is 01:15:12 stuff and um and it went well i'm pretty beat but uh was it just you was just you or do you have any do you have anybody else there with you to like compare times or you know i don't know run at the same time or is it just you it's just me people suggest it all along the way that i get like a running group or a running partner or something but i don't really like people that much so i didn't i didn't sound like me i can relate yeah You sound like me. I'd want to do it on my own, too. I don't like cycling with other people.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I like cycling by myself. Totally, totally agree with that. Yeah, especially that you don't want that kid in front of you. You don't want that kid anymore. To your left, to your left. That guy. To your left. Well, anyway, it's good to see you.
Starting point is 01:16:00 It's a related topic today, right? What are you laying on us? Yeah. And I was pulling up my, because I don't have my computer connected to the internet. I wasn't just looking at my phone. I was pulling up the notes. that I have from my from my thumb. Like, oh, yeah, sure, I went on a run today.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Checking your social media. We got a question last week about cramps and whether mustard. Oh, right, yeah. Able to relieve cramps. And if it does, how does it work, stuff like that. And I didn't really have information off the top of my head, so I decided to do a little bit of looking into it. and the short answer is mustard probably doesn't do anything but there's a I don't like to crap on people's like things that they think work for them you know people have whatever
Starting point is 01:16:54 I'm not that type I'm not a debunker you know like some people are like I'm going to tell you why you're wrong and you know if it's not whatever but some some of the other things about like why it doesn't work are actually interesting and what like cramps are and stuff like that so um so the to understand leg cramps you have to sort of understand why your muscles contract and the the process is basically your brain sends a signal through your neurons to your muscles and um this is interesting actually you know your your neurons they they send these electrical signals through like you know you can compare them to wires that's how it's always compared right um and and they go from one
Starting point is 01:17:40 neuron to the next but when they get to your muscles they're just you've got a big beefy muscle and the the neurons just like end at the muscle they're just like grabbing onto your muscle almost like you know webby fingers just wrapped around your muscle and then the electrical signal hits your muscle fibers and then kicks off what's called an action potential that goes down the muscle and that tells it to um that it needs to contract yeah and uh when that happens like basically calcium and I'm telling you all these details not because I'm trying to make you
Starting point is 01:18:16 a doctor but because the steps along the way help understand why cramping happens and why people think that certain remedies would help and so
Starting point is 01:18:32 after the electrical signal hits the muscles basically that kicks off a process where calcium ions dumped out of storage and flood the muscle and that allows the muscle to contract and the muscle uses an energy molecule called ATP so calcium and ATP are really important in what we're going to talk about but the the muscles use ATP to actually do the contraction and then when it's done there's a there's a pump called a fast calcium pump that that pumps the calcium
Starting point is 01:19:06 back into its storage so it can happen again right um and that That pump that puts the calcium away uses a sodium and potassium gradient to get that done. So those are four things that are really important in muscle contraction. Sodium, potassium, calcium, and ATP. So the leading theory about why muscle cramps happen, and it's actually not a lot is really well understood about why different cramps happen. Yeah, interesting that it's still theoretical. You'd think that this would be an area that we know a lot more about, but... Yeah, and the leading hypotheses, there are kind of two of them,
Starting point is 01:19:48 and the first one has to do with what those things I just described, basically a breakdown in the process. So one of them is that there's a problem with those fast calcium pumps, putting the calcium back into storage. And so that means that it's just not putting it back in, so the calcium is still on the muscle, not letting it let go so it's because the calcium
Starting point is 01:20:14 allowed the muscle to contract if the calcium stays there then it's very difficult for the muscle to let go the other thing is because the muscle uses that energy molecule ATP to do the work of moving the muscle back and forth
Starting point is 01:20:31 that could be another reason maybe why cramping is having is there's not enough ATP available so basically not enough energy in your body to do it okay so if they're so now that the science the detailed science lesson is over all of the all of the different remedies that people try address the reason that people come up with them or theorize that they might work or anything like that are usually addressing one of those issues um so you'll hear things like um um so you'll hear things like uh Like hydration is important and electrolytes are important.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Now, why are electrolytes important? Because usually those types of things have, whenever your electrolytes are imbalanced, it can mess up the sodium and potassium balance in your body, which would mess up those pumps getting the calcium back to you out of your muscles, right? Right, right. So some people theorize that. That's actually one of the reasons why people think that mustard might work or why they did think it might work is because there's a lot of sodium in in mustard right
Starting point is 01:21:42 so it's just another another placebo deal if they think it does like again we're not trying to debunk here but is that what's going on if somebody takes it and goes on it very much could be so so yeah there's like i said without going into the laundry list of all the different things that people try you know like pickle juice and and um and there are some medications that people have tried before and have tried to develop um the long and the short of it is there's not not a lot of evidence that any of them work to treat muscle cramps. If you have a muscle cramp right now, there's probably nothing you can do about it. And it makes sense if you think about it.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Because if you consume a bunch of mustard, what's the reason you're trying to do that is because maybe there's something in the mustard that would get to your muscles and allow relief and help with relief. But your metabolism isn't going to get anything from the mustard into your bloodstream for probably at least an hour, right? and you're typically going to feel a relief before then and so the only thing that anybody really knows is super effective at relieving muscle cramps is stretching
Starting point is 01:22:47 and that's kind of what you naturally are like whenever you get a cramp that's what you do right you're like and then you just stretch it out until it feels better so you mentioned placebo that's probably what a lot of people are thinking so a lot of these like home remedies that people use that maybe don't really work and are kind of placebo, the reason people think they work and they make a connection
Starting point is 01:23:12 is because it feels a lot better to get up, go get a spoonful of mustard, try to eat it, and be doing something rather than just waiting for it to take care of itself on its own. Exactly. And so, I mean, if that
Starting point is 01:23:28 helps, because it also takes your mind off of it in a way, because you're focused on a task, you know? And so if that helps, then that helps people, you know, get through it, but stretching by the time, by the time the mustard has done its thing, you're probably stretching. And so by the time you eat the mustard, you've probably stretched it out too. So there's a closer. Oh, yeah. I always heard about that. Yeah. The time thing is it's like enough time for it to ease on its own. And then you're thinking,
Starting point is 01:23:57 well, it's because I ate the mustard 15 minutes ago. Right. Right. It's like, no, it probably was going to happen anyway. All right. So my wife, every night, not every night, some nights will take a supplement that is magnesium and calcium. So a combination of magnesium calcium, I don't know what the ratio is or whatever. And she claims that it just eliminates Jimmy legs, like just poof gone.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Nocturnal. Are you talking about nocturnal? Like the kind where you can't freaking sleep. It's just like you're checking your legs around and it's just like your restless leg syndrome. There you go. Well, restless leg syndrome is not the same as muscle cramps. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:24:33 It's not connected to that. But I assume, like, I've had Jimmy Legs plenty of times. I'll take her weird supplement. Doesn't do anything for me. Zip, not a nothing. But she's like, ah, and then sleeps. Now, either she's just got a really good placebo effect going, or it's just chemically working for her and mine.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Mine's just resistant to whatever I do. I don't know. I know that Restless Leg Syndrome actually is also another thing that's not well understood. It's weird that muscle in your legs. Nobody understands them, I guess. How do they work? magnesium and calcium are also supplements that people take for leg cramps too though and so there's nothing that works to help really that you can take no evidence
Starting point is 01:25:18 I always have to caveat it with that there's no evidence that that any treatments work but the evidence on prevention is a little bit different which is what you're talking about Scott trying to prevent it there's maybe weak evidence that some things work for prevention like I think there was one paper I ran across that talked about mustard for prevention like taking a spoonful of mustard every night before you went to bed
Starting point is 01:25:44 there are some some people think that it's not because of the sodium in it that it actually might be because there's some chemical in the mustard that that stimulates some enzyme in your mouth or something like that that then kicks off some kind of neural pathway thing I don't know it sounded
Starting point is 01:26:01 complicated to me So I don't really get it. But, I mean, the things that people think if they're going to work for prevention of leg cramps that work the best are just stretching ahead of exercise, proper carb intake, like proper fueling before exercise and electrolyte. Yeah. But again, the evidence is weak for that. And that's just exercise-induced leg cramps. There's basically all the science that I read said that if you're experiencing nocturnal lead cramps, sorry. You're just going to have them.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah. That's a bummer. I mean, I've had one of those, what do they call them, Charlie horses in the middle of the night? Yeah, that's the leg cramps. Yeah. And I don't, very rare. And it's usually because I, I don't know, started jogging again or something, you know, there's usually something I can point to. but but those here's how those goes it's like two in the morning i roll over and go
Starting point is 01:27:03 like that kind of sound comes out of me and my wife goes what what and i go uh charlie horse grab my foot grab my foot and so she'll grab it and do like kind of the hold it tight thing so that it's not spasming and then it goes away and then we both can't go back to sleep and then there's your night it's a great way to look well it's it's funny that you say that because that's another reason why people have all these different remedies for um for charlie horses for nocturnal leg cramps is because the older you get the more likely you are to get them and and it can really especially if you have them frequently and you it can really lower your quality of life quite a bit um because it's like you said you have them in the middle of night you can't get back
Starting point is 01:27:49 to sleep sometimes the pain can last for hours or you know some people just say a day. It's brutal. It's brutal. It looks like three naked men wrestling under your leg muscle. Like they're all in there. I'm going to get you. And you can just see it kind of like undulate.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Why are they naked? Oh, I don't know why they're naked. Why are they naked? That's how they're greased up and naked. And that's how they get them under your epidermis if they're not naked and greased up. All right. Well, so my big takeaway from this is I'm hungry for mustard. Is that normal?
Starting point is 01:28:23 Why am I hungry? Yeah. Yeah. I could eat a hot dog right now with copious amounts of mustard because that's all I hear you say is mustard. Yeah. Wrap it in a paper towel. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Bobby, always fun to talk about this stuff with you, of course. Super cool that you're Mr. Runner now. And not only that, but look at you all spry and ready for a segment anyway. Like, I don't know how you did it, but you did it. I'm here to help. Oh, well, good. Well, you're very helpful. I'm here to believe you.
Starting point is 01:28:56 If you guys have questions or thoughts about the segment or want us to toss something over to Bobby, send those in the morning stream at gmail.com. Happy to do that. Tell people about All Around Science, where they can get it. You can get it at All Around Science.com. That's our website or the podcast is called All Around Science. We talk about science stuff, and we're not experts. So we really try to approach it, like we're not scientist. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:18 So we really try to approach it from that perspective. like we just really love science and we want other people to love it too we just did the episode that was released yesterday it was about fluoride and how it like why and how it's so good for your teeth
Starting point is 01:29:36 why is it so like it's it must be really good they put it in all the water and that's a mandated thing on the federal level and and so why what does it do why is it always you're getting the varnish painted on and the
Starting point is 01:29:51 dentist's office, like, how does it actually help and why is that? And we talked about when your kids are going to finally get to go back to school without masks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that'll be a good day, won't it? That'd be a great day. It will be a good day. Kids will like that, I think. I think they're sick of this as we are. Although maybe they're better about it than half the adults I know, you know. Yeah, my kids don't care. My daughter, my older daughter, she, even when we're in a situation where it's probably fine. She is extra cautious. She's like, no, I think I'm going to wear me.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah. Yeah, my kids are older, obviously, but I've just noticed, like, when Van has to put one on to go to the dinosaur museum, he's only two. He wears it. He's not pulling it off. He's not freaking out. He's not irritated by it. He's just sort of having on. He's not screaming. This is a violation of my
Starting point is 01:30:41 civil rights. Yeah, he doesn't do any of that. So, YouTube guy, that was Brian. That wasn't me. That was Brian. Just kidding. Oh, gosh. That's like, what, three or four times you got political today. I know. He just keeps happening. May as well just call this. Spoiler alert. Politics show and move on. All right. Well, hey, Bobby, it's
Starting point is 01:30:57 great to hear from you. I hope you get all the mustard you need today to feel better and not feel better, but just, you know, not have any cramps. I wish no cramps on you, is what I'm saying. Yeah. We'll see you next time. All right, there goes Bobby into the wind. There he goes. Real quick, I wanted to show people this. Kim very nicely just brought these down.
Starting point is 01:31:13 As I said, this just handed to me, literally. Yeah, just handed to me. So right now, up on the store. Oh, yes. All these on Twitter. I skipped last year, and I don't know I think I was just depressed about the pandemic, but if you like Christmas cards and you're looking for some unique cards to send to some friends, let me pull each one out so I can show them here. They are now available and up on the store. For some reason, I can't, oh, there it is. I have a Ghostbusters theme one. Anyway, they're in this set of four, all drawn and
Starting point is 01:31:46 written by me. These are not folded yet, so you can't see the, there's just a crease. you know, so you can fold them obviously. But each one of them got the little frog pants greetings, a little frog that's going. This one says told you I wouldn't ghost you this year. Merry Christmas. And he's wearing a, you know, he's a Ghostbusters
Starting point is 01:32:07 thing. And then this one is Santa Claus riding a sandworm from Dune saying the spice must flow ho-ho. Get it? Get it? Because he's Santa Claus with the ho-ho, right? I get it. Yeah, there's another one where he's just, Santa Claus is too busy playing a game and he'll be right to you after he finishes this game.
Starting point is 01:32:25 And then final one. He's playing Animal Crossing. Yeah, of course. Clearly, that's all I'm doing these days. And then there's this buff Santa saying, what have you been up to in the last 12 months? Looking all buffing right. He's got nipples and everything. So if you want your own set of these amazing, this four set of cards to send to your favorite people and your family and friends list, that set is up there and now available at the frogpants.com slash store site.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And plenty of time to get him to you if you actually. now. So, hop in there and check them out if you desire to do such. They are very cool, Scott. Very cool. Thank you, Brian. All right. That's it for the show. I do want to thank a couple of patrons, though.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Three of them. Before you do that, let me really quickly mention. There is a new Tadpool Secret Santa. You'll find information in the Discord. If you're a member of the Discord, if you're not a member of the Discord, you'll also find it at the Tadpool Facebook group. But this is where
Starting point is 01:33:21 um you can uh sign up to trade gifts with some random member of the tadpool i've done it every year i'm going to do it again this year and um uh it's a blast so go find the tadpool secret santa post on discord it's pinned same with facebook it's pinned um i'm not going to read that whole long link because it's a bunch of a bunch of gibberish letters but um somebody needs to make a bit dutli out of there yeah we could do that uh anyway sign up and uh And the deadline is the end of this month. You've only got two weeks to do it. November 30th is the deadline. And once again, you might get lucky and draw me. And I'm probably just going to send a bunch of spice gruel shit. Yeah, why not? I'll send my secrets on it.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Yeah, I get. I feel you. Also, real quick, I did it last year as well, and I loved it. If you are like, well, I'm not a part of either of those communities, it's really easy. Go to frogpants.com slash TMS. The Discord link is there. It doesn't require anything special. No passwords or anything.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You just get in. And the same with the Facebook group. Now, that one, I think they approve you, but it's real easy. You just sign up and then Jeannie or somebody will give you approval. So head over there, do that, be that, be a part of it. It's a fun thing we do every year and would love to have you involved. All right. Okay, here are these patrons.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Sean, big thanks to Sean, who went to patreon.com slash TMS and grabbed us at the grade A level. Also, John Norris at the grade A plus level. Love that level. So thank you, John. Appreciate it. and Ben B, also at the grade A level. If you want to be like these three fine individuals, you can head on over to patreon.com slash TMS
Starting point is 01:34:58 and check out all the reasons why. Main reason being, it's dirt cheap to support us. Very cheap. Like, too cheap. We screwed up. Go take advantage of our screw up, okay? Because we're not changing it. Go do it.
Starting point is 01:35:12 That's over at patreon.com slash TMS. A reminder, you can always email us directly. The morning stream at gmail. You have a question for one of our panelists or one of our segments or anything. That's the place to do it. And follow us on Twitter at morning stream. All right, that's it. Brian, we should play a song.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Do you want to do that? We should. I mean, we should. You could, but should you. Should you? We should. Okay. And you should.
Starting point is 01:35:39 This one is a good one right here. Let me make sure that it is. Yes. Did I pick? There we go. Yes, I did pick the right one. All right. Dustin wrote in and said.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Dear old S&B, I thought I'd write a quick request to celebrate my oldest son, Logan, attaining the rank of eagle, scouting Boy Scouts of America. On November 3rd, he's now a third-generation eagle, myself and my stepfather are both eagles, even one of my brother-in-laws is an eagle. After the pandemic put a stranglehold on earning merit badges and Zoom taking over for campgrounds or campouts and meetings for a while, he's finally pushed through and finished his project and gotten all his eyes dotted and his tease cross. and has had his final board of review on November 3rd. Nice. There's no song that comes to mind for this, but I'm sure Brian can come up with something, and it really doesn't matter when you fit this in.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Logan likes to listen to songs that are covers of game themes and background music, so hopefully that gives you a direction to go in. If not, dealer's choice. Thanks for all the years of entertainment you have provided. How about a tender crisp bacon, cheddar ranch for lunch? Oh, we can totally do that. I can totally do that.
Starting point is 01:36:44 By the way, my people. Like, I love more than almost anything these days. It's, it's soundtracks from video games that I love the most and remixes of stuff. I'm completely obsessed with a, with a Animal Crossing cover that I played at the top of the show today. Oh, it's great. I love that one. It's so good. Like, I just love that stuff. So I feel him. I feel like I know your son already. All right, so here we go. I knew I had it. All right. Sorry, go ahead. Continue. All right. So the cover I chose is Metroid Metal. This is from a band called Stemage, and they do covers of metal covers of video game songs. This comes from the Brinstar level, and it is that theme, the theme to that level, done in heavy metal style. Here is Metroid Metal, Brinstar, by Stemmage. I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 01:38:16 I'm not I'm going to be. I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm going to I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:38:29 You know, I'm going to be able to be. You know, You know, I'm going to be able to be. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Thank you.

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