The Morning Stream - TMS 2206: Bad Phlebotomist
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                                        I don't like bee cheeses.
                                         
    
                                        Forks, scat in the microwave.
                                         
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                                        Suck on a butter bullet.
                                         
                                        No more, Mr. Mice guy.
                                         
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                                        It's Tuesday, November 15th, 16th, sorry, 2021.
                                         
                                        I'm Scott Johnson with Brian.
                                         
    
                                        Hibbit.
                                         
                                        Inhibit.
                                         
                                        Hibbitt.
                                         
                                        If your name was,
                                         
                                        okay, let me ask you this.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        If your name was Hibbitt or my name was Jackson,
                                         
                                        would we be different people,
                                         
    
                                        meaning same, same, same, same,
                                         
                                        origin story, same parents, same age,
                                         
                                        same birth dates, all that.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God, I love these philosophical questions.
                                         
                                        First thing off the bat.
                                         
                                        Right off the bat.
                                         
                                        Do we go in different directions?
                                         
                                        I just want to throw my bikes in the lake, bro.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        If I was, so if my name was, if my last name was Hibbitt,
                                         
                                        how would it?
                                         
                                        How would it have affected my life in the direction that my life took me?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And there's no way to really tell, but do you think it would have had an effect?
                                         
                                        I don't think it would have had any effect.
                                         
                                        I can't think of any major life choices that would have come from me being named.
                                         
    
                                        So, all right, let me ask this.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Would I have still gone to travel to Cambridge?
                                         
                                        Like, would the Ibit sundial in Cambridge that I traveled to be the Hibbitt sundial?
                                         
                                        How far back does the name change go?
                                         
                                        Oh, I see.
                                         
                                        That's interesting.
                                         
                                        Because that was a, you know.
                                         
    
                                        I was just thinking like alphabetically you're in a different order, so your teacher
                                         
                                        would call your name different and stuff like that, but you're going deep.
                                         
                                        I like it.
                                         
                                        I like what you do.
                                         
                                        You know, I always sat behind a kid named Mike Hutchins, no relation to the lead singer
                                         
                                        from NXS.
                                         
                                        Mm, no, no.
                                         
                                        Rest of soul.
                                         
    
                                        This would have put me in front of Mike Hutchins.
                                         
                                        Would it have put me closer to any of the object.
                                         
                                        of my affection and desire in school giving me a better chance.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you don't know.
                                         
                                        Interesting.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's, see, now there is, that's where it would have affected things.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and you never know, because if you'd have gotten closer to one of those girls
                                         
                                        and then that girl, let's say she was a little bit of a, you know, conniver and her whole
                                         
    
                                        goal in high school.
                                         
                                        Flusie?
                                         
                                        Was she a flusy?
                                         
                                        She's trying to get pregnant with Brian Ibbott's seed.
                                         
                                        Oh, Brian Hibbitt's.
                                         
                                        Brian Hibbitt's seed, sorry.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that Hibbitt seed, much sought after.
                                         
                                        So now, now it's you and Sally Forth or whatever her name is.
                                         
    
                                        Sally Forth.
                                         
                                        Having a kid at 16.
                                         
                                        I fell in love with a woman from the Sunday comics.
                                         
                                        And now your lives...
                                         
                                        Your lives are inexorably changed forever.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Now if I was Brian Hibbert, I'd laugh like this.
                                         
                                        I like it.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Well, there you have it.
                                         
                                        Hibbet's seed should be today's title.
                                         
                                        I'm calling it now.
                                         
                                        Hey, all right, we get the important emails.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we do.
                                         
                                        I don't think there's any doubt about that.
                                         
                                        No, maybe there is.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, look, if that previous philosophical discussion was any indication, we do not shy from hard topics here on this show.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        We dive right in.
                                         
                                        We let it all hang out.
                                         
                                        We don't.
                                         
                                        We're not afraid.
                                         
                                        And neither are our listeners.
                                         
                                        Kyle wrote in, this is not, as far as I know, Kyle Ferguson, a friend of the show.
                                         
    
                                        This is a different Kyle.
                                         
                                        He says, hey, Swiss and bourbon.
                                         
                                        Not bad.
                                         
                                        I've heard bourbon before, never Swiss.
                                         
                                        How come that's not two cheeses, though?
                                         
                                        Yeah, is bourbon with that spelling?
                                         
                                        Is that a cheese?
                                         
                                        Because he didn't spell it like the liquor.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah, B-R-B-O-N.
                                         
                                        No, maybe that's a cheese.
                                         
                                        Chat room alone.
                                         
                                        But why not Bree?
                                         
                                        Yeah, why not?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, why not Brie?
                                         
                                        We're not Swiss and Brie.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Or, I mean, there are B cheeses.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there are B cheeses.
                                         
                                        There are A cheeses and B cheeses.
                                         
                                        People don't know why we're so hung up on cheeses, by the way.
                                         
                                        It'll become apparent in like a moment.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, all right, he says, here's the body of his email.
                                         
                                        Is it okay to put cheese on everything always?
                                         
                                        Love the show, though, Kyle.
                                         
    
                                        Very straightforward question.
                                         
                                        So, is it okay to put cheese on everything always?
                                         
                                        No, the answer is no.
                                         
                                        You wouldn't put this on chocolate.
                                         
                                        You wouldn't put it on maybe some kinds of cheeses and chocolate go together, but you're not going to put like...
                                         
                                        I've had a nice charcutory tray that had some dark chocolate.
                                         
                                        and some, um, some, some, um, some, um, some, uh, crumbly, like blue cheeses and stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and those go together pretty well.
                                         
    
                                        Those go together.
                                         
                                        But you're not going to take, all right.
                                         
                                        Let's say you had a cup of coffee, Brian.
                                         
                                        You're not going to sprinkle, like, created cheese on it.
                                         
                                        I'm not going to put cheese in the cup of coffee.
                                         
                                        Now, here's the thing, though.
                                         
                                        I've put butter and coconut oil in coffee.
                                         
                                        Yeah, same.
                                         
    
                                        For like, um, that bullet coffee thing.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Um, that ain't good for you.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        I can't have, that can't have, uh, helped, uh, helped, um,
                                         
                                        uh my current situation sure tasted good though didn't it though it did taste really good
                                         
                                        it was very smooth and it's the only coffee i ever liked was somebody let me taste their butter
                                         
                                        bullet whatever and it was someone let me taste their butter bullet
                                         
    
                                        butter bullet hmm let me taste your butter bullet that's uh that's how sally fourth actually
                                         
                                        hooked me oh yeah well let's get you that way and if your name was hibbitt that was her opening
                                         
                                        line and from then yeah yeah a saturday night at hibbitt's house is a whole different place
                                         
                                        than it is currently.
                                         
                                        It certainly is.
                                         
                                        What do you think is the weirdest thing
                                         
                                        you've ever put cheese on
                                         
                                        that most people wouldn't put cheese on?
                                         
    
                                        Oh my gosh.
                                         
                                        Weirdest thing?
                                         
                                        Weirdest thing.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's hard.
                                         
                                        I'll help you out.
                                         
                                        I'll start.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I had cheddar on a slice of apple pie.
                                         
    
                                        And I thought at the time
                                         
                                        that was the weirdest thing
                                         
                                        than anyone had ever done.
                                         
                                        apparently it's big in the south.
                                         
                                        I've heard of it.
                                         
                                        It was freaking delicious.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I've heard of it.
                                         
                                        And you like, it was good.
                                         
    
                                        That was the take.
                                         
                                        It was really good.
                                         
                                        The tartness of the cheddar and the sweetness of the apple pie, just amazing together.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think my wife may have spoken of this from her upbringing, that that was somehow a thing.
                                         
                                        I can't think of anything.
                                         
                                        I don't think we're talking about the genitals identity for.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, not the genitals.
                                         
                                        In the butt bob.
                                         
    
                                        Nope.
                                         
                                        Those don't count.
                                         
                                        We're not looking at those.
                                         
                                        We're talking about regular edibles.
                                         
                                        I guess the closest I have to say to this would be...
                                         
                                        I did melt...
                                         
                                        Okay, I do remember doing this.
                                         
                                        I melted pepper jack cheese over a...
                                         
    
                                        This is gross, but I microwaved a corn dog.
                                         
                                        Frozen corn dog.
                                         
                                        Put it in the microwave.
                                         
                                        You're not supposed to cook them that way.
                                         
                                        You're supposed to bake them.
                                         
                                        But I did that.
                                         
                                        You can.
                                         
                                        I was you say, if you wrap it in a paper towel,
                                         
    
                                        corn dogs in microwave are totally a thing.
                                         
                                        Hold now.
                                         
                                        on. Is this a thing? I could do that?
                                         
                                        Yeah. But wait, what does that do?
                                         
                                        Tina gets these all the time. So Tina gets these, they're a breakfast sausage wrapped in a pancake,
                                         
                                        but it looks just like a corn dog and has that corn dog kind of delivery method.
                                         
                                        Granted, it's not a corn-based, like, dough wrapped around the thing, but the concept's the same.
                                         
                                        You've got some kind of breading.
                                         
    
                                        It's on a stick. You wrap it in a paper towel, a minute and a half.
                                         
                                        in the microwave, that thing comes out perfectly.
                                         
                                        What does the paper towel do, just keep moisture from getting too wet?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it keeps moisture, it keeps the bread from being completely dried out and chewy.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And also it keeps the moisture around the bread so, so that it stays kind of soft.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Because in my head, well, okay, so here, when I did that with the cheese on it,
                                         
                                        first of all, it wasn't that great.
                                         
                                        It was okay, whatever.
                                         
                                        It was fine.
                                         
                                        I was young and, you know, we're young and dumb.
                                         
                                        It doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        what you eat um but the breading the the corn part was just all gooey and like not oh yeah yeah so
                                         
                                        that might that that who knows because the the the things the tina gets are sausage is wrapped in a
                                         
    
                                        pancake it's kind of like a um a mcgretel without all the hassle because it comes on a stick
                                         
                                        she loves those things really yeah what does she how would she say it if she were to say that
                                         
                                        you're out of yeah did you eat all the corn the pancake wrapped
                                         
                                        Pigs in a blanket.
                                         
                                        I can't find any of them.
                                         
                                        Why that cracks me up like nothing else?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
    
                                        Why that's so funny.
                                         
                                        Because it's so not her voice.
                                         
                                        But as a kid, so as a kid, I learned the trick that if you take a hot dog bun, put a hot dog in it, and then wrap that in a paper towel and put in the microwave for 30 seconds, it's like perfect.
                                         
                                        I'm going to try this once when we get more.
                                         
                                        to try your method, because I never heard of that, and that makes perfect sense to me.
                                         
                                        And it was like the, you know, because the way you learn to do it as a kid is, is, oh, get a pan out, a sauce pan out, or pot, fill it with water, put a hot dog in there, put, let the water boil, boil it for a minute or so, then take the hot dog out, put in a bun, blah, blah, blah, and that whole process, when you're a kid that feels like forever, and it's only like, you know, five minutes of work, but it feels like forever.
                                         
                                        And, um, but you do that.
                                         
                                        Like, if you take the hot dog right out of the fridge, put it in a hot dog bun,
                                         
    
                                        wrap the whole thing in a paper towel, microwave for 30 seconds, for whatever reason, it's, it's fantastic.
                                         
                                        But not from a frozen state, though, right?
                                         
                                        Not from a frozen state.
                                         
                                        That's probably where I got in trouble because there's more moisture because you got all that ice to melt or, you know, outside.
                                         
                                        Well, the corn dog, though, is different.
                                         
                                        So that came from a frozen state?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so does the, so does the, um, pigs in a blanket thing that I'm talking about, those are frozen.
                                         
    
                                        And those are a minute and a half.
                                         
                                        You don't defrost and then, or do you do defrost and then cook it?
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        Right out of the freezer, wrap it in paper towel, minute and a half from Frozen State.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        All you college kids.
                                         
                                        From Sylvester Stallone Demolition Man State, it's a minute and a half.
                                         
                                        Perfect.
                                         
    
                                        And don't forget the three shells, you're going to need them after you eat that corn dog.
                                         
                                        The Kremlin's, which is already defrausted, thawed, I guess it would be the word.
                                         
                                        Thod, sure.
                                         
                                        Thawed out, we'd always say, thawed out when I grew up.
                                         
                                        Thought out.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Thought out.
                                         
                                        30 seconds, boom.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Porn dog.
                                         
                                        What's Dice Tomato talking about?
                                         
                                        I don't know what's going on there.
                                         
                                        Porn dog?
                                         
                                        Porn dog?
                                         
                                        Even bun, squishy, twitchy.
                                         
    
                                        Put the hot dog in the bun.
                                         
                                        Wrap the whole thing in a paper towel.
                                         
                                        30 seconds microwave.
                                         
                                        Try it and you'll be amazed.
                                         
                                        Maybe a minute.
                                         
                                        Maybe you do a minute.
                                         
                                        I'm blown away by this news.
                                         
                                        This is incredible, helpful, practical kitchen advice that we're getting today.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Didn't know we were getting this today.
                                         
                                        Did you guys at home?
                                         
                                        Teach your children well.
                                         
                                        Eat those mystery meat, two,
                                         
                                        of pork products.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Pig bits.
                                         
                                        Right out of microwave. How bad could it be for you?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I can't. But, you know, wrapping a paper towel, all those problems go away.
                                         
                                        No nitrates.
                                         
                                        No, no aluminum foil, pea crumb. Who no?
                                         
                                        No, don't do that. Don't put any of that shit in their microwave. That's a big mistake.
                                         
                                        I put a fork in the microwave by accident about a year ago. I can't believe it didn't talk about it on the show.
                                         
                                        Total accident. Just left it in there.
                                         
                                        Zipat, boom, bam. Skibbitty back best.
                                         
                                        I'm sure. It's like Fourth of July in there.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it was bad. So don't ever do that. I don't know what damage I
                                         
                                        actually caused it kind of it darkened the tray the little turning tray but that's it
                                         
                                        didn't do it oh look that skipio sk1 p io says one minute blast in the air fryer after
                                         
                                        microwave to get it nice and crispy that is that's what you do with those corn dogs by the way
                                         
                                        so you take it out of the microwave for a minute and a half scott then put it over in the
                                         
                                        do you have an air friar that's like i don't but i'm always on the edge of just grabbing one
                                         
                                        because everyone says they're great i don't have i should show you the one to get okay you
                                         
                                        The Cuisinart, it's a Cuisanart countertop model.
                                         
    
                                        Instead of being those weird tall bullet things that you just, you have to put in a cabinet when you're not using.
                                         
                                        Oh, right.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't like that.
                                         
                                        Get the Cuisanart, Toaster Oven, Air Friar, Dehydrator, breadproofer, oven, oven combo thing.
                                         
                                        It's like, seriously, this thing changed our lives.
                                         
                                        It's like.
                                         
                                        And it's Cuisanart, which means.
                                         
    
                                        I make nobody. Maybe I should really quickly make an Amazon link with my code in it.
                                         
                                        You should.
                                         
                                        It is, this thing does everything and takes up, you know, the space of a toaster oven in your counter,
                                         
                                        and we were able to get rid of our toaster, our air fryer, and it's amazing.
                                         
                                        It's so cool.
                                         
                                        I'm all in.
                                         
                                        Will you send me the model after the show today?
                                         
                                        I will send you the model.
                                         
    
                                        I will absolutely say it.
                                         
                                        I'll put in our Discord right now, as a matter of fact.
                                         
                                        That's great.
                                         
                                        That's how great I am.
                                         
                                        Gore-G-G-R-G-E-R-G-E-R-G-O-G-O-G-E-R-G-E-O-G-E-O. He has a goiter, everybody.
                                         
                                        Brinton made today. He's got a goiter.
                                         
                                        Everyone look out for my...
                                         
                                        I just have to remember how to spell
                                         
    
                                        Quezon Art. I don't know how you do that.
                                         
                                        Q U-U-I-S-I-N-A-R-T?
                                         
                                        Why doesn't that look...
                                         
                                        Why doesn't that look right?
                                         
                                        Is it E-N-A-R-T?
                                         
                                        Quees and Art.com.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there it is. Airfire Convection Toastroven.
                                         
                                        Number one, by the way, number one thing
                                         
    
                                        when you search for quees and art on Amazon
                                         
                                        is this thing that comes up. Well, they're a brand.
                                         
                                        They're a quality brand.
                                         
                                        They are, quality brand. Yeah. They don't break.
                                         
                                        Right here. Not like Black and Decker. They're bullshit.
                                         
                                        They're bad. I'll give you a link and I'll put a link in here too.
                                         
                                        Excellent. Link for the chat room. Link for the Scott.
                                         
                                        Oh, man. Look at this. This is what the internet was made for.
                                         
    
                                        Exactly. It's on sale right now.
                                         
                                        50 bucks or 44 bucks off right now.
                                         
                                        Yeah. This is why we have the internet, everybody. Screw you, 4chan. All right, let's move on.
                                         
                                        Oh, by the way, somebody in our video yesterday, I could not get past this.
                                         
                                        So we did the show. I post the show after we're done to YouTube. Okay.
                                         
                                        The reason in chat room, well, they all know this.
                                         
                                        The reason we don't play music live and they're not on the YouTube channels because we get in trouble for that stuff.
                                         
                                        So we don't. Anyway, that's nothing to do with the story. I post up the thing.
                                         
    
                                        And I always like to check comments throughout the day
                                         
                                        If we're getting something on Facebook or on YouTube
                                         
                                        And YouTube's can be fishy
                                         
                                        But most of the time you guys are fine over there
                                         
                                        I get this one yesterday
                                         
                                        It says
                                         
                                        Spoiler alert
                                         
                                        They were super political today
                                         
    
                                        Were we?
                                         
                                        And I went
                                         
                                        Okay hold on
                                         
                                        Let me think
                                         
                                        How are we political
                                         
                                        At all yesterday?
                                         
                                        I don't think we said one thing
                                         
                                        About anything to do with politics
                                         
    
                                        In fact, me just referring to it today
                                         
                                        Is more than we would have ever said yesterday
                                         
                                        so what did we say
                                         
                                        I talked about
                                         
                                        going to concerts with masks and stuff
                                         
                                        and going to movie theaters with masks
                                         
                                        Is that what they mean? Is that what they mean?
                                         
                                        If that's what they mean
                                         
    
                                        then he can go suck on a
                                         
                                        butter bullet, okay?
                                         
                                        I don't have time for people who think that's
                                         
                                        political suck on a butter bullet
                                         
                                        Yeah but give us a break we're in the middle of a world
                                         
                                        where there's a thing happening and
                                         
                                        you can go pretend it isn't happening all you want
                                         
                                        but if we make a reference to a mask,
                                         
    
                                        it's not political,
                                         
                                        if that's what he means.
                                         
                                        If that dude's listening right now,
                                         
                                        and I assume he is,
                                         
                                        because he heard it yesterday,
                                         
                                        could you just fill me in?
                                         
                                        Like, citation, please?
                                         
                                        Like, what did we say?
                                         
    
                                        What did we have a discussion about?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't think we'd talk about anything.
                                         
                                        And that is the problem.
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
                                        Dice Tomato nails it on the head.
                                         
                                        Masks,
                                         
                                        vaccines,
                                         
    
                                        and this is nothing new to anybody,
                                         
                                        but should never have been politicized.
                                         
                                        It should have never been a left or,
                                         
                                        right, conservative, liberal, Republican Democrat issue, vaccines and masks.
                                         
                                        Never, ever should have been it, and we would be done with it by now.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        We would have been done with it.
                                         
                                        We would all been, like, back to normal, you know.
                                         
    
                                        We'd be saying, hey, it wasn't Vegas great in the last few months ago.
                                         
                                        Can't wait to go again.
                                         
                                        It'll be great to see everybody there again.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        We'd be having all that.
                                         
                                        I would have had nerdtacular in 2021.
                                         
                                        Like, we would have done it.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, whatever that was, dude, I can't help you.
                                         
    
                                        Plus, you've got to say more than just, spoiler, they got totally political.
                                         
                                        I know, exactly.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was trying to think, was there a question in the, I know, we didn't get political, but we did get non-factual.
                                         
                                        We did get incorrect about our, the multiplier of bacteria, right?
                                         
                                        Like we were saying, 700 times the bacteria in your headphones, blah, blah, blah.
                                         
                                        And either you or Dunaway said something like, oh, it's like 700.
                                         
                                        percent or 200 percent something like that yeah and i didn't even think about it at the time i went
                                         
                                        along with it and i'm the one who got called out on twitter hey brian how many emails did you get
                                         
    
                                        about confusing 200 percent with 200 times oh what you mean come i was the one who said it i didn't
                                         
                                        correct the guys and i think i probably repeated at one point yeah but um i think you said times i think
                                         
                                        we said percent i think so and yeah and whatever you know it doesn't matter but we all know
                                         
                                        200% is 2x, not 200x.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, the fun part is I went and looked at that guy's comment history on other videos, and this, all he does is just...
                                         
                                        Oh, this spoiler political guy?
                                         
                                        Yeah, so I don't know why I'm giving him any airtime today, but it just annoyed me and it's stuck in my product.
                                         
    
                                        I had a rotten day yesterday.
                                         
                                        I had a headache all day.
                                         
                                        I couldn't get rid of it.
                                         
                                        And then this guy, and I feel much better today.
                                         
                                        So middle finger to Jim Bob there on YouTube.
                                         
                                        All right, moving on.
                                         
                                        I'm surprised I'm not grumpier today because...
                                         
                                        I got the lack of sleep today that you got yesterday.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, no, I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        The dog was doing a mix of sleep barking and growling in the middle of the night.
                                         
                                        Then she got up, and it sounded like she was hacking up a lung.
                                         
                                        So I had to get up with my phone, turn the flashlight on, and scope the carpet to see what she coughed up.
                                         
                                        She didn't cough up anything.
                                         
                                        She's looking at me like, I'm fine.
                                         
                                        What's your problem?
                                         
                                        I mean, you know, it was after 10 minutes of,
                                         
    
                                        And plus I didn't go to bed right away because I was watching my show,
                                         
                                        one of my two shows that I'm doing for Recommendals tomorrow.
                                         
                                        And the episode ended in a place that's like, oh, I can't leave it like that.
                                         
                                        I have to watch the next episode.
                                         
                                        And so I watched the next episode.
                                         
                                        And that put me an extra hour.
                                         
                                        That's me all the time.
                                         
                                        And it's like it wouldn't actually kill me away today.
                                         
    
                                        but I feel like I just have to, you know.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        No, I can't go to, I couldn't go to bed with Alex in the place that she was.
                                         
                                        That's all I'm going to say.
                                         
                                        I don't think that gives anything away to people.
                                         
                                        Well, I think things away to people who've seen the show, and you know what I'm talking about.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and as far as I know, Alex Albisu likes to be called him or, uh, he.
                                         
                                        But it's fine, it's fine, you know, I don't, you know, he doesn't care, I don't care.
                                         
    
                                        He can be whatever he wants.
                                         
                                        Hey, let's get to some hot sauces, Scott.
                                         
                                        Yeah, check this out.
                                         
                                        So carry, not the carry that we, it's not Carrie.
                                         
                                        No, and I was going to look this up.
                                         
                                        It's not Cleo Carey.
                                         
                                        Different carry.
                                         
                                        It's a different carry.
                                         
    
                                        And, and the, you know how Amazon sends you a little sheet?
                                         
                                        That sheet said, TIA, TIA.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        And I'm like, TIA.
                                         
                                        Okay, so now I don't know who this is from.
                                         
                                        And I didn't know that was, I'm like, oh, Tia, well, okay.
                                         
                                        But then I use the.
                                         
                                        my phone on that QR code that's on the sheet that says, hey, thank you if you want.
                                         
    
                                        And that came up with Kerry, I'm sorry, K-E-R-R-R-Y, which is the way Cleo spells it.
                                         
                                        So I got on Twitter and said, hey, thanks, Cleo for the hot sauces.
                                         
                                        Not thinking that, I don't know, maybe there's another Cleo out there.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I saw your post and I went, oh, okay, well, then it is Kerry, but then you told
                                         
                                        it yesterday it wasn't Carrie.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so, and I'm looking back and seeing, like, all right, have we gotten emails from
                                         
                                        another carry who listens to TMS. I can't find it.
                                         
    
                                        So anyway.
                                         
                                        Kia, Carrie Tia, if that is your real full name, thank you for what we're about to do.
                                         
                                        So we got to play this.
                                         
                                        Take this. It's for you. It's food.
                                         
                                        All right. So someone sent us, this person sent us, Alice Cooper hot sauces.
                                         
                                        Now, did you know Alice Cooper was in this business? Did you know?
                                         
                                        I didn't know hot sauce is I know he has a, speaking of hot dogs.
                                         
                                        I know he has a hot dog restaurant in Chicago where he's from.
                                         
    
                                        and it's like Cooper dogs or something like that,
                                         
                                        and it's very well regarded.
                                         
                                        He still live in...
                                         
                                        Vincent Fernier, Alice Cooper's real name.
                                         
                                        Doesn't he still live in...
                                         
                                        He lives in a big, huge place in Arizona, I thought.
                                         
                                        Doesn't he?
                                         
                                        Oh, does he?
                                         
    
                                        I thought he did.
                                         
                                        I thought he lived there.
                                         
                                        Is it in Arizona, not Chicago?
                                         
                                        Maybe he...
                                         
                                        Maybe it is.
                                         
                                        Maybe he's got the hot dog place in Chicago, but he...
                                         
                                        I don't know, you know, he's Alice Cooper.
                                         
                                        He can do whatever he wants it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, you know what?
                                         
                                        I'm looking it up because I...
                                         
                                        I thought it was in, let's see, Alice Cooper, hot dog.
                                         
                                        Careful, Rule 34 is going to slap me across the face of that one.
                                         
                                        Cooperstown, I'm sorry, it is.
                                         
                                        It was in Phoenix.
                                         
                                        That's in Phoenix, okay.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So you were absolutely right, Scott.
                                         
                                        Not in.
                                         
                                        We drove past this house once when we were in Arizona, and I remember we were trying, I can't
                                         
                                        remember what we were trying to do.
                                         
                                        We were trying to get his attention or I was young and stupid, and we were trying to make
                                         
                                        noise, and I don't remember what we did, but he never showed up, so there's that.
                                         
                                        Gotcha.
                                         
    
                                        So it's called Cooperstown, and sadly it closed in 2017.
                                         
                                        So if you wanted to go there, I'm afraid you can't.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're screwed.
                                         
                                        Now, part of this lineup, we have mild, or is it called it mild, Alice Cooper's,
                                         
                                        Welcome to My Nightmare, Mild Hot Sauce.
                                         
                                        These are all named after Alice Cooper songs.
                                         
                                        And it looks like a greenish chili or something.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like a smoked Chipotle color.
                                         
    
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Alice Cooper.com.
                                         
                                        They make these in Charlottesville or Charlottville
                                         
                                        of Charlotte, sorry, North Carolina.
                                         
                                        I keep saying Ville.
                                         
                                        I don't know why.
                                         
                                        Then you got the medium, which just looks like,
                                         
                                        what do you call it?
                                         
    
                                        It's like Chaloola.
                                         
                                        It looks like Frank's Red Hot is the color.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's the, and the smell.
                                         
                                        I whiffed it.
                                         
                                        No more Mr. Nice Guy.
                                         
                                        That's the medium.
                                         
                                        No more.
                                         
                                        Mr. Nice guy.
                                         
    
                                        And then the third one, which, as you can tell,
                                         
                                        some has been gone because my son
                                         
                                        yesterday when he came by.
                                         
                                        We got Reaper hot sauce called Poison.
                                         
                                        Does he have a song called Poison?
                                         
                                        Yeah, he does.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I am not familiar enough with the...
                                         
    
                                        The Library of Alice Cooper.
                                         
                                        Yeah, his bibliography or whatever.
                                         
                                        So we both brought some sort of cracker item and...
                                         
                                        You know, I will say, looking at the ingredient list, I'm impressed with Mr. Cooper.
                                         
                                        The ingredients on the hot one is just vinegar, Reaper Chili's, sugar, salt, garlic, black pepper, spices, lemon,
                                         
                                        extract, that's it. No, weird chemicals, hard things to pronounce, et cetera.
                                         
                                        That's good. Yeah, because they're all like that. I'm like really short.
                                         
                                        How old is he now? He's like in his 70s, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I think so.
                                         
                                        I just want to look real quick.
                                         
                                        He is high 60, upper 60s?
                                         
                                        No, low 70s, 73 years old. Wow. Born in 48.
                                         
                                        I don't know, I just think that guy's got a weird, cool career.
                                         
                                        He really does.
                                         
                                        It's weird, and it shouldn't be, like, this should be a joke, but I'm kind of excited to try this.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So, Nick said they were really good.
                                         
                                        We're not taking his word for it.
                                         
                                        We're going to eat these ourselves.
                                         
                                        So do you want to start mild and work our way to hot?
                                         
                                        Let's start with mild.
                                         
                                        I'm getting a Tabasco from the mild smell.
                                         
    
                                        A little bit of, um, yeah.
                                         
                                        Ooh, if that's mild, we're in trouble.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        Yeah, hold on.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm no kidding.
                                         
                                        That's mild.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And it's leaving, uh, there's some, there's some lasting, uh, lasting, uh, lasting pain with that.
                                         
                                        I'm not really careful.
                                         
                                        You're going to be careful here with medium and hot now.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        A little coffee.
                                         
                                        Watch that down.
                                         
                                        I actually recommend that.
                                         
                                        That's very good.
                                         
    
                                        That is very good.
                                         
                                        That'll be good on some eggs.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        I'm making scrambled eggs for lunch.
                                         
                                        That's what I'm doing.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        That's a good one.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Let's go to no more Mr. Mice guy.
                                         
                                        Mr. Mice guy.
                                         
                                        Mr. Mice guy.
                                         
                                        Mr. Micex.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Let's do it.
                                         
                                        No more Mr.
                                         
    
                                        Nice guy medium.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        the other one didn't have a little stopper
                                         
                                        like this one actually has the little stopper
                                         
                                        that keeps you from getting a lot
                                         
                                        oh yeah why
                                         
                                        I guess that one's just not as hot or whatever
                                         
                                        and more kind of we're babies
                                         
    
                                        so all right here we go
                                         
                                        I feel like I'm going to die on this one
                                         
                                        hotter
                                         
                                        hotter definitely not as hot
                                         
                                        as the mild not lasting hot
                                         
                                        Um
                                         
                                        A more tart
                                         
                                        Tart flavor.
                                         
    
                                        Definitely tart.
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                        Ooh, I like it.
                                         
                                        I know that's a lot of vinegar,
                                         
                                        but if you do it right,
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                        That's not bad.
                                         
    
                                        Get some carnitas that'll be awesome on.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that, ooh, so you're good at knowing
                                         
                                        what the other dish should be.
                                         
                                        The pairing.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm not good at that.
                                         
                                        Scoop a chocolate, scoop of vanilla.
                                         
                                        Don't waste my time.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I'm not good at it.
                                         
                                        I'm, like, pour it into a spoon and eat it like soup kind of guy.
                                         
                                        All right, poison.
                                         
                                        All right, poison.
                                         
                                        I'm scared.
                                         
                                        I'm scared.
                                         
                                        I'm scared.
                                         
                                        It does not have a stopper.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, and it has chunks.
                                         
                                        It's got stuff in it.
                                         
                                        It's got stuff in it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, Lord.
                                         
                                        We're all going to die.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Here we go.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        So far so good.
                                         
                                        Like those other two, they're not killer.
                                         
                                        They don't overstay they're welcome, you know?
                                         
                                        Mm.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Start's nice.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        This doesn't have a stopper.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Okay, yep.
                                         
                                        Yeah, does that one get you?
                                         
                                        Oh, shit, I'm nervous.
                                         
                                        This is where the top of my head feels like it's constricting.
                                         
                                        Hmm.
                                         
                                        Like my skin on my head is going...
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that's hot.
                                         
                                        What is it?
                                         
                                        Is it the Carolina Reaper in there?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's the Reaper.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Oh, shit.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that's very good.
                                         
                                        Boy, is it, is it, it's got some heat to it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, nice flavor, but Nick handled it better than I did.
                                         
                                        He seemed to be pretty chill with it.
                                         
                                        My pain, your thrill, it says on the back.
                                         
                                        That's the lyrics from the song.
                                         
                                        Oh, is it?
                                         
                                        How about this one?
                                         
    
                                        I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing.
                                         
                                        Is that from a music song?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's the opening line from No More Mr. Naskai.
                                         
                                        How about I think you're going to like it?
                                         
                                        That's the line that follows, Welcome to My Nightmare.
                                         
                                        Welcome to my nightmare.
                                         
                                        I think you're going to like it.
                                         
                                        Okay, now I hear it.
                                         
    
                                        All right, well, that one sticks around.
                                         
                                        Are these the kind that need to be refrigerated after you open them?
                                         
                                        Well, I don't think so.
                                         
                                        First of all, they don't say so, but all those ingredients look like you just leave them out.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's good.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I like when you don't have to refrigerate.
                                         
                                        I don't know. Let's have a little water.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's, uh, the flavors are great, though. You know what? I'm kind of, I'm kind of impressed.
                                         
                                        I like a good hot sauce. I think the, I think I'm going to use that mild most often.
                                         
                                        All that medium is really good. The medium is really good. The medium is really good. The medium is
                                         
                                        milder, in my opinion, than the mild. The hot one is for psychos.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Like, you give that to Alice Cooper and he dies.
                                         
                                        at 72. Don't give it to him.
                                         
                                        Try to avoid
                                         
                                        giving Alice Cooper his own medicine
                                         
    
                                        if you know what I mean.
                                         
                                        Oh, I know. So do you not
                                         
                                        refrigerate any hot sauce? We have Chalula in the fridge
                                         
                                        for some reason. Chalula, we don't.
                                         
                                        Because it's fine staying out. The stuff
                                         
                                        we do refrigerate are ones
                                         
                                        that include, forget
                                         
                                        which ingredients you have to be careful with.
                                         
    
                                        But they almost always say
                                         
                                        keep refrigerating.
                                         
                                        Yeah, tapio doesn't need to be.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, yeah, none of them.
                                         
                                        Tabasco's
                                         
                                        find out like that.
                                         
                                        Although there's a version of Tabasco that you're supposed to use a steak.
                                         
    
                                        That's exactly what they said, yes.
                                         
                                        According to the Michelheny Company's instructions,
                                         
                                        refrigerating your hot sauce is the best way to prevent the color change.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Well, probably doesn't hurt to,
                                         
                                        probably doesn't hurt to refrigerate them, you know,
                                         
                                        put them in there and just keep them there.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but doesn't...
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that one hung around a little too long.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, nothing...
                                         
                                        All right, well, there you go.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Keep them in you on your table.
                                         
                                        Chulula says, consume it within six months of opening.
                                         
    
                                        Tapadios is about two years.
                                         
                                        Two years, geez.
                                         
                                        Make them the last.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Now this.
                                         
                                        It's time for the morning news, and it's brought to you by.
                                         
                                        By something else that's hot.
                                         
                                        Soundography, hot off the presses with a brand new season.
                                         
    
                                        And what we're doing is something brand new.
                                         
                                        We're kicking off this season with a revisit of season one.
                                         
                                        Ever since we did season one, a lot of those bands that we mentioned have come out with new material.
                                         
                                        And we talk about all that new material and what those bands have been up to.
                                         
                                        So folks like Spice Girls and Talk Talk and Kevin Gilbert, well, nothing new from Kevin Gilbert because he died.
                                         
                                        But a lot of those bands, we talk about what they've been up to since season one.
                                         
                                        And that is the first episode of the brand new season of Soundography.
                                         
                                        You'll find that at Soundography.com hosted by Hammond Chamberlain and myself.
                                         
    
                                        Very nice.
                                         
                                        Get your music on, everyone.
                                         
                                        That is exactly right.
                                         
                                        Here's your story.
                                         
                                        First story of the day.
                                         
                                        A woman was charged for not charged money.
                                         
                                        Or was it money?
                                         
                                        I think she was charged money.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, she was charged money.
                                         
                                        It's funny how this headline, it sounds like she did something illegal.
                                         
                                        But anyway, a woman was charged for crying during surgery.
                                         
                                        Was she a surgeon?
                                         
                                        That would make some sense, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I would. If she was the patient, too, I could see somebody's in trouble if you're the patient crying.
                                         
                                        But anyway, don't cry during a stressful or painful medical procedure unless you're willing to pay extra.
                                         
                                        One woman learned that the hard way when she went to her doctor to get a mole removed.
                                         
    
                                        She cried at one point during the operation.
                                         
                                        And her bill, which she posted to Twitter, showed an $11 charge for, quote, brief emotion, unquote.
                                         
                                        That's my favorite Erosmith's song.
                                         
                                        Oh, brief emotion.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was before they sold out.
                                         
                                        great then.
                                         
                                        It really was, yeah.
                                         
                                        Anyway, let's see.
                                         
    
                                        And a billing code of CPT code
                                         
                                        96127, whatever
                                         
                                        that is.
                                         
                                        She got off easy, according to the
                                         
                                        Mentagram article called
                                         
                                        CPT and code 96217,
                                         
                                        how to increase
                                         
                                        revenue with this new behavioral and emotional
                                         
    
                                        assessment. So this is something some
                                         
                                        doctors, family practitioners, and such
                                         
                                        are doing.
                                         
                                        It is a code that may be used to
                                         
                                        report brief behavioral or emotional
                                         
                                        assessments or for reimbursement.
                                         
                                        and quote, maybe billed four times for each patient per visit,
                                         
                                        utilizing four different instruments or assessments.
                                         
    
                                        So if I go in there and they're going to take like this big dumb mole I have on my head right here off,
                                         
                                        and if I go, they're going to go, right, 11 bucks, stop him up.
                                         
                                        He reacted.
                                         
                                        Do you think, no, I could see it if they had to, I don't know.
                                         
                                        I mean, it's hard for me to justify this.
                                         
                                        if they had to stop and like give her something because she's crying like oh are you feeling pain do we need to adjust stuff and and it added extra time to the surgery i mean even that i can't see being i agree it sucks it's bad it sucks the whole thing sucks i would fight it if i were her and it's also there are plenty of people with like legitimate like needle phobias and things and now if they're freaking out and having like a gotta pin him down and make a video for tic-tock style freak out i get it okay that's different but if
                                         
                                        this just has too much leeway because if somebody goes,
                                         
                                        oh, is it going to hurt? Is it going to hurt? Is it going to hurt? Is that an emotional freak out?
                                         
    
                                        Right, exactly, yes. Even if they didn't move?
                                         
                                        Wincing. Yes. What if they winced because you're a bad shot? How about that?
                                         
                                        Right. Somebody did, I missed, there we go, a Benjin. It's $11 for flinching.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Like the punch in the arm. It's two for flinching.
                                         
                                        I mean, last time I got my blood work done, the girl wasn't as good of a phlobotomist as the last one.
                                         
                                        And I hurt.
                                         
                                        And I didn't flinch, but I kind of went like that.
                                         
                                        And she goes, oh, does that hurt?
                                         
    
                                        I said, yeah, that one got me pretty good.
                                         
                                        And then that was it.
                                         
                                        And we moved on.
                                         
                                        I think it's only fair if we get a discount, if they show any emotion.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there you go.
                                         
                                        They open you up and go, that is a big guiter.
                                         
                                        Then you can say, ah, you showed emotion, 11 bucks.
                                         
                                        Discount.
                                         
    
                                        Shock and awe, you $11 doctor shock.
                                         
                                        Yeah, look at the size.
                                         
                                        of his kidney. Up, ding!
                                         
                                        $15.15.
                                         
                                        Hopefully you have a very emotional
                                         
                                        doctor, and by the end, you're just
                                         
                                        neutralized the entire cost. Those doctors on mash.
                                         
                                        Suction! Give me suction!
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, our health care system is kind of jacked.
                                         
                                        It has been forever. It's not
                                         
                                        even a system, okay? This is the thing I'm...
                                         
                                        Spoiler. TMS gets political
                                         
                                        today, too. Oh, yeah. Is this also political somehow?
                                         
                                        Hmm. Look, I can tell you that
                                         
                                        it's always been bad.
                                         
                                        Since World War II, when they decided
                                         
    
                                        that it should never be a national concern
                                         
                                        It always should be just a thing you had to worry about if you never made enough money or whatever.
                                         
                                        And it's just gotten progressively worse.
                                         
                                        Every year things go up by like exponential amounts.
                                         
                                        It doesn't make any sense.
                                         
                                        It's not a system.
                                         
                                        It's an industry.
                                         
                                        It's as simple as that.
                                         
    
                                        There's no system.
                                         
                                        We work around it and build systems to accommodate it.
                                         
                                        But it's not a health care system.
                                         
                                        We don't have that.
                                         
                                        We have health care chaos.
                                         
                                        There I got political.
                                         
                                        Take that YouTube guy.
                                         
                                        Fingers up your butt.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Look on that, butter bullet.
                                         
                                        Think on that.
                                         
                                        Three dead, hundreds injured after storms, roused scorpions in Egypt.
                                         
                                        This sounded apocalyptic.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        It sounds biblical.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Big time.
                                         
                                        Three people are dead.
                                         
                                        Hundreds are injured after an incident, or sorry, after inclement weather,
                                         
                                        roused hordes of venomous scorpions out of their hiding places and into the streets and homes in Egypt.
                                         
                                        Vicious rain, dust storms, and vicious rain?
                                         
                                        How can you call it vicious?
                                         
                                        That implies the, this rain had autonomy and was like,
                                         
    
                                        like, you know, sentient sentiently saying, I'm going to be terrible to you today.
                                         
                                        Well, uh, yeah, I mean, isn't there punishing rain? You hear punishing rain all the time.
                                         
                                        I could hear, I could, see, that makes sense because you are being, you feel punished by a natural
                                         
                                        occurrence, but it isn't that the rain went out one day and said, I'm going to punish me.
                                         
                                        It's not malicious rain. Are you confusing vicious and malicious? Maybe. I think they're close.
                                         
                                        Because vicious implies intent. Doesn't vicious imply intent? Doesn't vicious imply intent?
                                         
                                        kind of does a little vicious i think it can be like aggressive rain uh well here's the important
                                         
                                        part today i woke up and i ran animal crossing and in the tent was that cocoa character that
                                         
    
                                        everybody wants and nobody can get and i got her okay oh really yeah all right so i'm just putting that
                                         
                                        what is she she's a coconut rabbit what thing she's a coconut rabbit yeah so she's made out of wood and
                                         
                                        she has wooden long ears and she looks like a coconut uh head and then
                                         
                                        she was in my tent and i and and and and carter flipped out she's like that's cocoa and i went oh is this
                                         
                                        one of the oh bad bad bad she's freaking out so i played like five card games lost most of them
                                         
                                        finally convinced her to stay kicked out phil whoever the hell that was no no attachment to
                                         
                                        phil yeah she's a coconut rabbit man and i have her she's mine nice job i was really happy when
                                         
                                        i got the um the cat that wears glasses sounds like an old disney film from the seventies the cat that
                                         
    
                                        He wears glasses, like, I can't remember his name.
                                         
                                        That's a popular one, too.
                                         
                                        Raymond.
                                         
                                        It is a popular.
                                         
                                        Raymond, thank you, yes.
                                         
                                        I got Raymond.
                                         
                                        I've never seen Raymond.
                                         
                                        Yeah, poor Phil.
                                         
    
                                        Somebody, somebody, please feed Phil.
                                         
                                        He's leaving my island, whoever he was.
                                         
                                        I think he was a bird or some shit.
                                         
                                        I don't know what he was.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Anyway, Carter, sorry, you didn't get him.
                                         
                                        Don't let the sea plane hit you on the way out, Phil.
                                         
                                        Nope.
                                         
    
                                        wheels up and get a snack or whatever he always said.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Moving on.
                                         
                                        Where was I?
                                         
                                        Oh, these scorpions.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, scorpions, yes.
                                         
                                        We need the rock.
                                         
                                        We need the scorpion king to come in and corral all the scorpions.
                                         
    
                                        They only listen to the king.
                                         
                                        They won't.
                                         
                                        The king.
                                         
                                        They don't do things on their own.
                                         
                                        According to BBC news, citing an unnamed health official talking about this thing,
                                         
                                        people have been injured by the sting such far.
                                         
                                        450 of those people, by the way.
                                         
                                        Three of them died.
                                         
    
                                        from the stings.
                                         
                                        I mean, if you suddenly flushed out,
                                         
                                        I don't know,
                                         
                                        thousands of these things into the street,
                                         
                                        what would you actually freaking do?
                                         
                                        Yeah, move, if I could.
                                         
                                        Yeah, get out.
                                         
                                        Just get out.
                                         
    
                                        I mean, let's say it wasn't scorpions.
                                         
                                        Let's look at, you know,
                                         
                                        something local.
                                         
                                        Let's say it's a bunch of spiders.
                                         
                                        And the rain, you know,
                                         
                                        lots of rain forced all these spiders
                                         
                                        to come out into the streets
                                         
                                        and into people's homes.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I think,
                                         
                                        um,
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
                                        were they all there and they all?
                                         
                                        Did you all know?
                                         
                                        I would like to ask those people,
                                         
                                        did you know that just under the surface
                                         
                                        hundreds of thousands of scorpions
                                         
    
                                        were just waiting to be flushed out
                                         
                                        by pad weather?
                                         
                                        Right? Oh my God, they're kidding.
                                         
                                        I don't like this at all.
                                         
                                        This is a bad story.
                                         
                                        This is a...
                                         
                                        Hey, call me when the rain's over.
                                         
                                        Go on to Vegas.
                                         
    
                                        See you.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        See you later.
                                         
                                        I'm going to go live in the Luxor,
                                         
                                        oddly enough.
                                         
                                        Ironically, go live in the Luxor
                                         
                                        for a few weeks.
                                         
                                        I wonder what actual Egyptian
                                         
    
                                        folks, people from Egypt
                                         
                                        and that part of Northern Africa,
                                         
                                        I wonder if they
                                         
                                        come to the Luxor on a trip to Vegas and just
                                         
                                        go, pf. Yeah, I'm sure
                                         
                                        they do. It's got to be less now than it was
                                         
                                        when that thing first opened, because when it
                                         
                                        first opened, it was
                                         
    
                                        completely themed inside
                                         
                                        and out. Yeah. I liked it.
                                         
                                        And, of course, now, obviously, you can't really change
                                         
                                        the shape of a pyramid really easily, and they still have
                                         
                                        the sphinx in the front and a few
                                         
                                        statues inside, but it's, they've
                                         
                                        taken out so much of the theming,
                                         
                                        side, which I don't understand. I think you lean into that. That's the fun of it. I think so, too. That's what people go into your casino. That's what draws them in is like, oh, I want to go see the theme. They used to have a, they used to have a moat, a boat ride that went around the inside perimeter of the Luxor. I did that once. It was great. Yeah. It was great. It was fun. I miss that. I think, I think if you have a big pyramid, you should pretend like it's a pyramid. And if you don't, then what are you even doing? Plus, it's kind of gross now. It's not great. You used to be. You know, actually, actually,
                                         
    
                                        Actually, Luxor, I don't think it's that bad.
                                         
                                        It's certainly not as bad as the Excalibur next to it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's pretty bad.
                                         
                                        Stayed in there recently, and they had redone the rooms and redone the inside.
                                         
                                        Like, it's not the worst place on the strip.
                                         
                                        Certainly, by a long shot, maybe upper, bottom half.
                                         
                                        You could go to Circus, Circus, and that's where you want to die.
                                         
                                        You want to die there.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, you want to die in Circus, Circus.
                                         
                                        In a pile of meth.
                                         
                                        I'd even say the link is room-wise is in the middle to lower bottom half.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you saved me on that, by the way.
                                         
                                        I thought we were getting such a deal.
                                         
                                        I'm like, yeah, we'll be in the link.
                                         
                                        It's going to be great.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I mean, because you think, right, all that cool stuff is outside.
                                         
    
                                        You've got that set of retail and restaurant stuff and the zip line and the giant Ferris wheel or observation wheel.
                                         
                                        And then you go inside and it's, it is concrete walls and.
                                         
                                        It's like school dorm kind of level.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        What's going on there?
                                         
                                        It's weird.
                                         
                                        Whatever.
                                         
                                        Vegas is weird.
                                         
    
                                        It's a land of contradictions, that place.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Trenched wildfire agree.
                                         
                                        And I would actually put, I would put bally's.
                                         
                                        So, uh, drenched wildfire in the chairroom says, Vegas lower tier.
                                         
                                        Luxor, greater than Excalibur, greater than Circus, circus.
                                         
                                        I would agree.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Wholeheartedly with those three.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I would put bally's, um, just above Excalibur.
                                         
                                        Um,
                                         
                                        what else would be below lexor for me link obviously um how's the how's the the the the stratosphere
                                         
                                        as far as the hotel part is any good i've never stayed in there but if if it's any indication
                                         
                                        probably in that same range the ballies level yeah that i haven't heard of them doing any sort
                                         
                                        of uh room um room we never talked about this but a guy a guy did bronis
                                         
    
                                        Ryan's famous jump, but without the harness and, uh, go's death. Oh, God. Yes. Yeah. Well, that happened.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it went, uh, yo, geez. I can't. Can you imagine? I mean, you can't imagine. You were up there.
                                         
                                        I can't imagine. Yeah. And, and I bet for those, uh, for those first few seconds, it was exhilarating.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I don't think he was, I don't think he was doing it for the exhilaration, though.
                                         
                                        I would shat myself if I did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was not, uh, that was not a, a, a, a, a,
                                         
                                        sky jump gone wrong that was somebody who somehow got over the railing on the on the amusement
                                         
                                        park deck oh of that thing and jumped yeah on purpose on purpose they were like I'm done I believe
                                         
                                        I'm out yeah exactly checking out of the stratosphere if look I'm going to say something controversial
                                         
    
                                        here oh no okay I'm a big believer and people should be able to live
                                         
                                        however they want to live, all right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And if you are, if I have whatever right I have to live the way I want to,
                                         
                                        associate everyone else.
                                         
                                        And the goal is there is the way you live,
                                         
                                        you shouldn't, it shouldn't hurt other people the way that you live.
                                         
                                        Of course, right.
                                         
    
                                        So let's say that you're getting down to it.
                                         
                                        You found out you got terminal cancer or you go whatever,
                                         
                                        whatever, and you like, you know what?
                                         
                                        I just can't do this anymore.
                                         
                                        I don't have a ton of judgment for those people.
                                         
                                        But I guess where I draw the line is, maybe don't,
                                         
                                        I'm not saying that that's what happened here.
                                         
                                        But if you're going to do that, don't turn yourself into a human.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, because then you got a human torpedo.
                                         
                                        People have to clean up and deal with it into the shock.
                                         
                                        Well, there also could have been somebody down there right where you landed.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        There are other people involved.
                                         
                                        It affects them in pretty major ways.
                                         
                                        And I know that just people, losing people in general affects people on very personal ways.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not saying, I'm not denying that.
                                         
                                        But I guess what I'm saying to anyone out there, just don't, you know, don't involve the rest of us.
                                         
                                        that sounds wrong i'd take it all back no but it's you know that there's something to be said for that
                                         
                                        right like uh yeah i don't know that's weird um and maybe if you're even thinking of that route
                                         
                                        seek some counseling get some help oh absolutely yeah hang out with us that should be your first
                                         
                                        that should be your first stop before listen to tms we're very give me something that i have to
                                         
                                        clean up right we are we are yes number one is try to get some help uh you know we we're we've had
                                         
                                        plenty. Look, we've had numerous people email us and say, your show saved me from suicide.
                                         
    
                                        Yes. And hey, if we say a bunch of dumb things for an hour and a half every day and that keeps you guys on an even kill, then I am. That makes me happier than I can tell you.
                                         
                                        We'll continue to do this show forever. Right. But if you're 90 and you're like, nothing's working right, I'm peeing in the bed every night. I'm, I can barely move. My brain's going. Everything's going. I got eight different kind of cancers. I can't treat any of them because I'm not.
                                         
                                        90. Like, at that point, I get it, man. Get Kvorki in that business up if you want to.
                                         
                                        It should be your choice to do that. And it should be in a controlled medical environment.
                                         
                                        And now that guy on YouTube can say we got political somehow again.
                                         
                                        We should, yeah. Spoiler alert. They talk about suicide for eight minutes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, for eight whole minutes. All right.
                                         
                                        All right, let's move on. Let's move on to this. Amy is asking. Amy's begging us to move on. Yeah, we're moving on.
                                         
    
                                        We're going to move on. How about this one? Seven plane crashes in seven days.
                                         
                                        So this isn't that much better, although no one died.
                                         
                                        Nobody died.
                                         
                                        On a happier note.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Nobody died in this story, I promise.
                                         
                                        Seven plane crashes in seven days for a pilot, same pilot,
                                         
                                        ends at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
                                         
    
                                        If you survive one plane crash in your lifetime, you're considered pretty lucky.
                                         
                                        When you survive seven in a week, the person who wrote this article says,
                                         
                                        I'm not traveling with you.
                                         
                                        That man's name was Harrison Ford.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Licensed pilot Dennis Collier,
                                         
                                        Collier, Collier, Collier, Collier, was a proud new owner of an amphibious airplane called the Sea Wind 3,000.
                                         
                                        He went to California to check out the beautiful aircraft had not flown for years, though.
                                         
    
                                        In fact, the aircraft had only had a total of 20 hours of flight time in its lifetime, the plane not him.
                                         
                                        Crash number one was the first of seven crashes happened while attempting to land after a test flight in California.
                                         
                                        The landing gear was still up, and it banged the plane up pretty good.
                                         
                                        Nobody's injured.
                                         
                                        It doesn't say whether or not.
                                         
                                        but he thought the landing gear was down
                                         
                                        or if he just forgot to lower the landing gear.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        So there it is.
                                         
                                        Number two.
                                         
                                        The engine stalled, causing the plane to come down hard
                                         
                                        beside a runway in New Mexico,
                                         
                                        taking out a sign and runway lights.
                                         
                                        Again, no injury is reported.
                                         
                                        All right, there's number two.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        Number three.
                                         
                                        We know for sure that this crash
                                         
                                        also took place in the same airport.
                                         
                                        In New Mexico, it's crash number two.
                                         
                                        However, it's unclear exactly what happened,
                                         
                                        but there was a third crash.
                                         
                                        Number four. After leaving New Mexico and being in the air for a couple of hours, more problems arose.
                                         
                                        The left wing hinged tab was stuck and the plane was pitching up.
                                         
    
                                        It took all the pilot strength and control the aircraft in four attempts to land.
                                         
                                        The landing in Nebraska was a very rough one.
                                         
                                        Number five.
                                         
                                        After repairs, Collier performed a test flight that ended in yet another crash in Nebraska.
                                         
                                        Man, this is rough.
                                         
                                        Six.
                                         
                                        I'd like to, I'm going to raise my hand here and say, maybe we just need to,
                                         
                                        redefine a crash
                                         
    
                                        because landing hard on a runway
                                         
                                        is not a crash.
                                         
                                        I don't know what, yeah.
                                         
                                        Do we have any pilots in the chat
                                         
                                        or anybody who listens to the show
                                         
                                        that knows what you're supposed to call this?
                                         
                                        Is there,
                                         
                                        can we,
                                         
    
                                        is there something between
                                         
                                        successful landing and crash
                                         
                                        that we can label these as?
                                         
                                        No kidding.
                                         
                                        Because it's bad.
                                         
                                        Now this last one,
                                         
                                        this last one,
                                         
                                        well, number six was another one
                                         
    
                                        where he did a nose hit landing.
                                         
                                        Again,
                                         
                                        it was a landing,
                                         
                                        but a hard one and it broke things up.
                                         
                                        up crash number seven is the final one the week's long nightmare ended on the fourth of july in lake
                                         
                                        michigan sea wind three thousand had so many recent issues the landing gear had been deployed the pilot
                                         
                                        promised the fAA he would keep the landing gear down for its 25 minute flight he did not know when
                                         
                                        he made this promise that he would be doing an emergency water landing due to the wing flaps not responding
                                         
    
                                        the landing gear caused the plane to go vertically into the water nose first somehow he yet again
                                         
                                        remains uninjured once again in his seventh crash or seventh rough
                                         
                                        thing. However, the plane
                                         
                                        that should be able to float is now
                                         
                                        at the bottom of Lake Michigan. So we're done with that
                                         
                                        plane. It's done. It's no
                                         
                                        longer amphibious at all. It does so. It sounds
                                         
                                        like, yeah, it confirms that the landing gear
                                         
    
                                        deploying was an issue, not the pilot, not
                                         
                                        pilot error. Yeah.
                                         
                                        At least that
                                         
                                        that part. Yeah, I know, right? What an insane
                                         
                                        fun time for that guy.
                                         
                                        I'm going to decide not to buy your plane.
                                         
                                        Thanks.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think I've changed my mind.
                                         
    
                                        I like my money back. Yeah. This plane's
                                         
                                        sucks. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk to Bill
                                         
                                        about making some stuff. Also, we'll get a quick email from him from a listener. So we'll throw that at him
                                         
                                        at the top of the show. He doesn't even know it's coming. So that'll be fun. And some signs with
                                         
                                        Bobby, assuming his 20-miler went okay. I guess we won't know until he gets here. Oh,
                                         
                                        yeah, right. He even warned me. He's like, I'm planning on being there, but who knows how I'm
                                         
                                        going to feel. I'm like, all right, well, let's play it by ear and see how it goes. So that'll be
                                         
                                        coming up next. Before all that, though, Brian has prepared a song, I assume.
                                         
    
                                        Prepared. The following song, please. Be seated for the following. We're going to Toronto for this one. This is a pop song that is hooky as hell. I love it. It's got some, I don't know, some burden the bee kind of feel to it, a little bit of Lily Allen. It's just right, talk about right up my alley. And hopefully, it's right up yours as well. It's a Toronto artist named Chiara Young, C-H-I-A-R-A-Young. Big things to Earshot,
                                         
                                        media for sending this one over.
                                         
                                        A brand new single that she's released called Stupid Happy, and I'll tell you, it's an accurately
                                         
                                        named song.
                                         
                                        This song is Stupid Happy.
                                         
                                        I totally dig it.
                                         
                                        This comes following her previous track, I Don't Wear Skirts, which Hollywood Life called
                                         
                                        a guitar-powered anthem about feeling happy in your own skin.
                                         
    
                                        She's collaborated with the folks from Walk Off the Earth, and this is her sophomore
                                         
                                        effort, How to Lose People.
                                         
                                        is slated for release next spring via Golden Carrot Records.
                                         
                                        Here's Chiara Young and Stupid Happy.
                                         
                                        go away just hide it with a smile that's on my face you hurt me just because i let you
                                         
                                        but i'm so stupid happy that i'm here even when it hurts i don't really care but i'm so stupid happy
                                         
                                        that i'm here even though it rolls me down it can slow me now because i'm so stupid happy that i'm here
                                         
                                        I'm so stupid happy then
                                         
    
                                        And maybe I'll see you
                                         
                                        At our secret place
                                         
                                        With someone new
                                         
                                        You're showing off
                                         
                                        I walk by
                                         
                                        Won't be losing sleep
                                         
                                        Already said goodbye
                                         
                                        Feelings
                                         
    
                                        They won't go away
                                         
                                        Just hide it with a smile
                                         
                                        That's on my face
                                         
                                        You hurt me
                                         
                                        Just because I let you
                                         
                                        But I'm so
                                         
                                        stupid happy that I'm here
                                         
                                        even when it hurts
                                         
    
                                        I don't really care
                                         
                                        but I'm so stupid happy
                                         
                                        that I'm here
                                         
                                        even though it rolls me down
                                         
                                        it can stop me now
                                         
                                        because I'm so stupid happy
                                         
                                        that I'm here
                                         
                                        but I'm so stupid happy
                                         
    
                                        that I'm here
                                         
                                        I'm so stupid happy that I'm here
                                         
                                        I'm so stupid happy that I'm here
                                         
                                        We started out
                                         
                                        What the hell
                                         
                                        I didn't think you'd waste my time again
                                         
                                        You hurt me
                                         
                                        Just because I love you
                                         
    
                                        But I'm so stupid happy that I'm here
                                         
                                        Even when it hurts
                                         
                                        I don't really care
                                         
                                        But I'm so stupid happy that I'm here
                                         
                                        Even though it rolls me down, it can start me now,
                                         
                                        because I'm so stupid happy than I'm here.
                                         
                                        Hey, you guys, you like business, right?
                                         
                                        You like business wars?
                                         
    
                                        Well, good news.
                                         
                                        The newest edition of Wondery's Business Wars podcast is here.
                                         
                                        And they're looking at how BlackBerry and, you know, if you guys remember, BlackBerry was like the bomb.
                                         
                                        But then Apple came and said, hey, what about touch technology?
                                         
                                        And then Android came and the, well, you know, it was a big crazy thing.
                                         
                                        And it put the power of smartphones in the pockets of billions of people worldwide.
                                         
                                        Back of the early 2000s, the BlackBerry had revolutionized how we communicate.
                                         
                                        It seems standard now, but BlackBerry's ability to allow users to text and send emails was actually a giant game changer.
                                         
    
                                        They were the first mobile device really out there that could sync with work emails, have it go right to your phone.
                                         
                                        And so people weren't chained to their desk so much.
                                         
                                        As the Gold Standard, every power player from D.C. to N.Y.C. to L.A. had a BlackBerry.
                                         
                                        However, it wasn't long before Steve Jobs and Apple thought they could outperform them with a vote of their own.
                                         
                                        Just when Blackberry thought they had the market cornered, Apple launched the iPhone in 2007, and the rest is history.
                                         
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                                        It was kind of ugly for a while.
                                         
    
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                                        lifetime. We sure did get some Thai food and it's so delicious to me.
                                         
                                        I'm getting too old for this shit. This is the morning stream.
                                         
                                        All right, we're back everybody. Brian, please remind us once again that song and who did it?
                                         
                                        Happy to do that. That's such.
                                         
                                        Chiara Young and her song Stupid Happy, a brand new single that she's released.
                                         
                                        By the way, that Fletcher clip reminded me, did you hear that Lethal Weapon 5 is now in the works, directed by none other than Mel Gibson?
                                         
    
                                        I did hear this, so I guess he's going to also come back and be in it, but also direct it.
                                         
                                        Right, exactly.
                                         
                                        Did you say, we hear anything about Danny Glover?
                                         
                                        Is he involved or back?
                                         
                                        I can't imagine he wouldn't be, right?
                                         
                                        I feel like that's a...
                                         
                                        Yeah, you got to pull him back here.
                                         
                                        It's a lock. They wouldn't do it if they couldn't get both of them, I don't think.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah. I don't know why. That actually got me really excited. And I know he's a problematic guy in Hollywood. I know. I know. I do like the fact that he keeps trying to get us to love him again.
                                         
                                        Like it's almost like, look, I made a movie about a beaver. Is that good? Is that good enough?
                                         
                                        What did you guys think of the Beaver movie? I've played Santa in this one, an angry Santa. How's that? Is that good? What do you want for me, people?
                                         
                                        I mean, I admit, that was last year, I guess, right? I enjoyed that, that weird Santa did too. Yeah. It was stupid and over the top and dumb, but I liked it.
                                         
                                        I didn't see the beaver one, but you and I both saw that Santa thing.
                                         
                                        It was pretty good.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the beaver one will probably end up on film sack at some point.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, I don't know how it'll go.
                                         
    
                                        But, yeah, I heard that and I just thought, oh, okay, sure.
                                         
                                        Why not?
                                         
                                        Go ahead.
                                         
                                        Just don't say a bunch of anti-Semitic bullshit around it, okay?
                                         
                                        Just make the movie and move on.
                                         
                                        All right?
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Getting political again.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, let's get Bill all up in it.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        He's very patiently over there, I believe.
                                         
                                        Hold on a second.
                                         
                                        I just realized.
                                         
                                        Waiting patiently.
                                         
                                        Patiently.
                                         
                                        Patient Bill, they call him in some circles.
                                         
    
                                        I was almost doing an end of waiting patiently.
                                         
                                        Patiently.
                                         
                                        Bill.
                                         
                                        Effing guy.
                                         
                                        There it is.
                                         
                                        Your bat caves open there, Bill.
                                         
                                        Hey, it's Bill Duran, everybody, from Punish Props.com and the Pacific Northwest home of Punish Props.
                                         
                                        And it's good to have you here.
                                         
    
                                        Bill, how you doing?
                                         
                                        Good morning, doing pretty good.
                                         
                                        Just did a long road trip with Bertrand Brother.
                                         
                                        We moved an old family piano from New York State to Washington State.
                                         
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        So I drove past Alia.
                                         
                                        We waved when we went by.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
    
                                        I didn't see you.
                                         
                                        I really looked.
                                         
                                        Did you pass right through?
                                         
                                        I thought I heard something.
                                         
                                        You passed right through Salt Lake City.
                                         
                                        I assume you're on I-15 probably, right?
                                         
                                        No, I-90 the whole way.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That'd be the way because you get some faster route.
                                         
                                        That's too bad because we've had some of the clearest beautiful, like, mountain skies lately.
                                         
                                        It's been amazing.
                                         
                                        You would have loved it.
                                         
                                        through there. All right. I was going to say, I wanted to do this. Well, let me ask you a question
                                         
                                        that I want to read you an email. All right. The question is, when you and your brother get together
                                         
                                        for something like moving a piano across the country, do you use the opportunity to play any
                                         
                                        pranks on people with the whole twin business? Do you do any of that on the way? Like stop at a Denny's
                                         
    
                                        and go, you know, do some kind of trick where you ordered, but then you switch seats and then the
                                         
                                        lady's not sure because his hair's a little longer than yours and, you know, all that. Do you guys ever
                                         
                                        do that? Yeah. We were
                                         
                                        boring. We never really did that, even growing
                                         
                                        up. I
                                         
                                        personally was just sick
                                         
                                        of people confusing me
                                         
                                        with another human
                                         
    
                                        my whole life. So, I
                                         
                                        don't know, I just, I wanted to be
                                         
                                        my own person, Scott. I just wanted
                                         
                                        to be an individual. Now, however,
                                         
                                        on the way through, we did, like,
                                         
                                        we stopped for breakfast, like
                                         
                                        15 minutes from my friend David's house.
                                         
                                        And he had not met my twin brothers.
                                         
    
                                        And so I specifically did
                                         
                                        tell him that it was my twin brother. Just to have a moment where he looked at my twin and said,
                                         
                                        I feel like I've met you before. I did do that. Okay. That's good. That's cool. Well, that sounds
                                         
                                        like fun brotherly time was spent and good times. All right, I got a quick email. I haven't even
                                         
                                        warned you about this. Joe sent this in. It's not really anything that needs a warning. But
                                         
                                        he says, I'm a little behind on TMS at episode TMS 2202. And I'm sorry if this has been suggested
                                         
                                        already. You expressed an interest to Bill
                                         
                                        a desire to try metal cutting lathe
                                         
    
                                        like your dad's. May I suggest
                                         
                                        that you look for a maker space near you?
                                         
                                        Not only will you have access to machinery
                                         
                                        without buying them, but there will also be folk
                                         
                                        there who will hold your hand and give you the benefit of
                                         
                                        their knowledge. Generally, there are many
                                         
                                        maker slash crafter regimes
                                         
                                        to sample, i.e. woodcraft,
                                         
    
                                        leather, modeling, etc. I'm sure Bill could set you up.
                                         
                                        P.S., may I suggest
                                         
                                        you look up this old Tony on YouTube?
                                         
                                        He is a creative and amusing bloke.
                                         
                                        Cheers, LLAP.
                                         
                                        I don't know what that means. L-L-A-P.
                                         
                                        Live long and prosper.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
    
                                        Geez, Star Trek Man over there with a quick answer, and that was good.
                                         
                                        And Joe C wrote this in.
                                         
                                        So I thought this would be just a good time, because you've talked about this before.
                                         
                                        Right, yeah.
                                         
                                        Good time to just kind of remind people that they probably don't even know it.
                                         
                                        But if they hear like your segment and go, oh, I want to make that or I want to do this, but I don't have access to this stuff, these are kind of everywhere, right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I wonder how the pandemic has had an effect on that.
                                         
    
                                        But yeah, we had a couple, I know we used to anyway, have a couple of maker spaces in Seattle.
                                         
                                        Usually there's like a monthly fee and then you can go in and use this stuff.
                                         
                                        And more importantly, have access to the people who know how to use this stuff.
                                         
                                        Especially if you live in a small apartment and can't, you know, put a four foot tall drill press in there.
                                         
                                        It's definitely worth checking out, especially if you just want to dabble.
                                         
                                        You're not sure how committed you want to be.
                                         
                                        Like I have half of my house
                                         
                                        Is full of tools
                                         
    
                                        That is my life now
                                         
                                        That's just how it is
                                         
                                        And I'm okay with that
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Also this old Tony is probably my favorite YouTuber
                                         
                                        Oh really?
                                         
                                        If you're interested in machining at all
                                         
                                        You should go check him out
                                         
    
                                        It's highly specific to me
                                         
                                        This isn't going to be
                                         
                                        He's no Mark Rover
                                         
                                        Let's say
                                         
                                        As far as like mass appeal is concerned
                                         
                                        But if you're into machining
                                         
                                        This old Tony is the best
                                         
                                        This is cool
                                         
    
                                        Yeah I'm seeing a bunch of these
                                         
                                        And I didn't know
                                         
                                        any of these were around me.
                                         
                                        You know what I like about this old Tony?
                                         
                                        He doesn't even bother with like fancy
                                         
                                        YouTube channel page.
                                         
                                        He's just like, here's my videos.
                                         
                                        If you want these, you're fine. Take them.
                                         
    
                                        A million followers and just like, yeah, here you go.
                                         
                                        I think that's great.
                                         
                                        I don't know why I admire that.
                                         
                                        I do. Everyone thinks you got to make a million
                                         
                                        silhouettes of yourself with a white
                                         
                                        border on yourself making a face
                                         
                                        and a giant text thing to the side
                                         
                                        for your thumbnail. And then you've got
                                         
    
                                        to structure your videos the same and always
                                         
                                        say like and subscribe and all that stuff.
                                         
                                        I like a guy who just says,
                                         
                                        I'm putting up a thing.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Not following your damn rules, internet.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        Something about that.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Well, thank you for sending that in, Joe,
                                         
                                        and to Bill for entertaining.
                                         
                                        One here in Boulder called the Solid State Depot.
                                         
                                        And, yeah, they've got everything.
                                         
                                        3D printers and cutters and,
                                         
                                        And this place looks like what I'd like my house to look like at something.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it probably looks like my basement.
                                         
    
                                        So you go in there and you just, what, you rent the space for a while?
                                         
                                        How does it generally work?
                                         
                                        You just pay and...
                                         
                                        Yeah, they have different policies and everything depending on the place you go.
                                         
                                        Most of the time, I've seen it's been a monthly fee and then you have a certain amount of access to this stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No, that's cool.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        Well, good luck, everyone, and the Solid State Depot Indeux.
                                         
                                        Never. All right, moving on. Hey, Bill. Tell us what you're working on right now, speaking of making things.
                                         
                                        Well, so I keep talking about this, but I've been in Ghostbusters mode for a while now.
                                         
                                        And the movie comes out this week. And I'm very excited. So I went and made myself the most legit pair of ecto goggles I could.
                                         
                                        Now, I have to admit.
                                         
                                        We have a video, obviously over on a YouTube channel.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I've been getting a sneaky peek at this because Bill sent me a couple of texts and I cannot believe.
                                         
                                        how rad these turned out.
                                         
    
                                        They're amazing, dude.
                                         
                                        I am overjoyed with how they turn out.
                                         
                                        So Spirit Halloween sells a bunch of Ghostbusters stuff,
                                         
                                        and they do sell a pair of ecto goggles.
                                         
                                        And I had intended to buy that, which I did.
                                         
                                        I have it.
                                         
                                        I was going to modify it to look more like it for the movie.
                                         
                                        And then I thought, let's do it from scratch.
                                         
    
                                        What if I made it way harder?
                                         
                                        So the main body, I 3D printed it.
                                         
                                        Now you have options.
                                         
                                        You could scour the world for a genuine pair of 1960.
                                         
                                        72a n slash pvs dash 5a night vision goggles you could do that
                                         
                                        I couldn't what the originals are based on
                                         
                                        yeah yeah I couldn't I'm fresh out I don't have any
                                         
                                        and I imagine if you do find a pair of the quite expensive
                                         
    
                                        so you could also do what Adam Savage did
                                         
                                        he made a video a while back where he sculpted a solid buck
                                         
                                        the shape of the goggles and then made a vacuum form of it
                                         
                                        or you can go to think of verse where there are dozens
                                         
                                        of ectoggle files for free
                                         
                                        and you can just pick your favorite
                                         
                                        and 3D print it and that's what I did.
                                         
                                        Nice. You did a lot of sanding
                                         
    
                                        to make them look all pretty. But the
                                         
                                        part I'm the most proud of, I've got to say, are
                                         
                                        the lenses and the knobs because I
                                         
                                        turned all of those out of aluminum on
                                         
                                        my lathe. We were talking about the laid last
                                         
                                        week. This is what I was working on.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're beautiful. Your lenses
                                         
                                        alone are enough to
                                         
    
                                        make me want one of these. They just look
                                         
                                        so legit, not being, you know, plastic
                                         
                                        or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That
                                         
                                        finish is like you can get pretty good with paint but the finish of the genuine aluminum like
                                         
                                        brushed metal look is just so good does it add to does it add to the weight of things aluminum's light
                                         
                                        but does it make the whole thing feel I don't know yeah yeah it's it it's it's a pretty happy
                                         
                                        medium ground because if you have like really heavy stuff on your head that's a problem if you're
                                         
                                        wearing it all day yeah but the the aluminum just feels the real the weight feels really really good
                                         
    
                                        Now, the knobs, very proud of the knobs, they've got a nerled texture on them, and I love nerling.
                                         
                                        And there's a couple of different, there's a straight neural on some of them, and a diamond nerl, which is like that crosshatch looking texture you'd find on like a knob on your camera or something.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        And I had to go and buy a specific new nerling tool for that.
                                         
                                        Need a new nerler?
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, now I have a whole collection of nerlers.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Very excited about those.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, very cool.
                                         
                                        Cool. This thing, this little extra piece that you put on one of the lenses and you got a little vice grip holding it there and everything.
                                         
                                        I didn't realize the original design even had whatever that is.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know. I might be wrong about this. So the original night vision goggles, it was mostly the body. The lenses on there, I believe were pulled off a microscope. I think that's how they built the original props. I might be wrong about that.
                                         
                                        So I don't know what that weird lumpy thing was on the side of it.
                                         
                                        It had to be attached later because you can't do that on the lead.
                                         
                                        But I think the solution I came up with worked out pretty well.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it looks awesome.
                                         
    
                                        And then the other thing I really love about the metal parts is they got painted.
                                         
                                        So part of them are just raw aluminum and part of them are painted black.
                                         
                                        And then I took those parts and I put them in a bucket full of metal chunks and screws.
                                         
                                        And I just kind of shook them around a bit.
                                         
                                        and the metal chunks scratched the paint
                                         
                                        and dinged up the metal a little bit
                                         
                                        but that's exactly what would happen
                                         
                                        in the real world over a long period of time
                                         
    
                                        and that finished like I said like you can get pretty close with paint
                                         
                                        but boy when you do the real thing
                                         
                                        it looks perfect you know the real world of Ghostbusters
                                         
                                        yeah yeah sure it's all real
                                         
                                        I mean the hardest part is finding real ectoplasm
                                         
                                        yeah that could be because that stuff goes bad
                                         
                                        like you can't keep it on the shelf
                                         
                                        I heard a cool story yesterday that Josh Gads the voice of Muncher, the ghost character, animated ghost character in this thing, which seems fine.
                                         
    
                                        This is fine pick or whatever.
                                         
                                        But I guess the way that went down is they literally were hanging around the Sony lot for separate reasons.
                                         
                                        And the director, what's his name, Jason Reitman, was just in the neighborhood and happened to see him and said, hey, dude, dude, do you want to just come over here and do like a quick test of this voice for this thing?
                                         
                                        and says,
                                         
                                        I'll totally do it.
                                         
                                        And they went and did it
                                         
                                        and boom, he's in
                                         
                                        and now he's the voice of Muncher.
                                         
    
                                        I think that's great.
                                         
                                        That's awesome.
                                         
                                        That's like one of those great Hollywood stories.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I love that kind of stuff,
                                         
                                        which meant, you know,
                                         
                                        they still had to go back and go,
                                         
                                        all right, now let's go through the channels
                                         
                                        and get the agents working, you know, and all that.
                                         
    
                                        But I like when they can just be creative and say,
                                         
                                        hey, I'm doing a thing.
                                         
                                        You want to be involved?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Let's go.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's like podcasting.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, sorry, that was a derailment.
                                         
                                        But this is beautiful.
                                         
                                        Can you explain what the tape is
                                         
                                        for? Was that to mask it so you painted it? Is that what that is?
                                         
                                        Right. So I masked off part of the lens so that I wouldn't get any paint on it and then
                                         
                                        airbrushed the black paint on the rest of it.
                                         
                                        Gotcha. Okay. And I ended up using a bunch of other techniques on this build too, which was
                                         
                                        kind of fun. Like it was an amalgamation of a lot of the techniques I've learned over the
                                         
    
                                        years. So the clear lenses were laser cut. There's the straps on there and those I had to do a bit
                                         
                                        of sewing. There's a squishy part that presses against your face. So I had to do some work with
                                         
                                        the poultry foam and like a vinyl cloth for that.
                                         
                                        And, of course, painting and weathering.
                                         
                                        So once everything was pretty much put together,
                                         
                                        I did a few passes with some acrylic paint to make it just look really dirty,
                                         
                                        which is, of course, the most fun part.
                                         
                                        What's the poultry foam?
                                         
    
                                        I think I've heard of that.
                                         
                                        A paltry foam.
                                         
                                        Oh, upholstery.
                                         
                                        Poultry foam.
                                         
                                        Some kind of chicken, turkey, you know, meat-based foam.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Very cool.
                                         
                                        And the video's up now.
                                         
    
                                        I've been showing the chat room the whole time.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It looks astoundingly cool.
                                         
                                        And I'm super jealous, and you should never let that leave your site.
                                         
                                        Don't let anyone make it out or take it.
                                         
                                        It's been my constant companion for a while.
                                         
                                        It's just sitting next to it.
                                         
                                        Actually, it's hanging off my proton pack, which is next to the TV so that I see it every day.
                                         
    
                                        Now, if you're going to go see that movie, you're going to cosplay up and go, or what are you going to do?
                                         
                                        Yes, and the plan is to do that tomorrow.
                                         
                                        Very excited.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You got to get pictures and stuff.
                                         
                                        Make sure you get all that.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And just a real quick thing to point out everyone watching the video, my wife, Brittany, films and edits these videos. And she's really good. She's very good. She puts a lot of effort into these.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Everyone, find yourself a companion in your life that can film and edit everything for you.
                                         
    
                                        Who can stand looking at your...
                                         
                                        Mary producer. I was going to say, find somebody who can stand looking at your face for that long. Yeah. No kidding. Because at the end of the day, she's like, I did this all day and I have to sit next to you on this couch. F this. Yep. Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, it's looking really good.
                                         
                                        Gratz on the project.
                                         
                                        It just looks insane.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        And keep your eye open in your mail because there's something coming to you and I can't tell you what it is.
                                         
                                        Big surprise.
                                         
    
                                        Pulling a Johnson.
                                         
                                        Let's just say it's Ghostbusters related.
                                         
                                        Anyway, hey, Bill, what else?
                                         
                                        You got a little bonus-y thing for us today?
                                         
                                        Do I ever?
                                         
                                        Our friends Evan and Caitlin make another husband-wife video-making duo.
                                         
                                        Made a video.
                                         
                                        They made the world's brightest lightsaber.
                                         
    
                                        They got a crazy bright flashlight, like the kind you shouldn't.
                                         
                                        stare at because you'll go blind
                                         
                                        and they made it
                                         
                                        into a lightsaber and it's ridiculous
                                         
                                        and awesome. So those ones are the ones
                                         
                                        you always see advertised on like Instagram and stuff
                                         
                                        where it's like a trillion lumens
                                         
                                        and you can see for a hundred million miles?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, apparently this one
                                         
                                        they claim can light up an entire football
                                         
                                        field, this flashlight.
                                         
                                        Man, $699,669
                                         
                                        is what they paid for that?
                                         
                                        Who needs that much light? Nobody
                                         
                                        needs that much light. No. Just buy
                                         
                                        the sun if you're going to spend that. That's crazy.
                                         
    
                                        All right. Very cool. And they turn it into a lightsaber. It's amazing. All right. I'm blown away. Bill, always a pleasure. Make sure you go check out a site. It's Punishprops.com. Punish props on YouTube. You can see this latest build and many more things. So do it or be lame. If you want to be lame, that's fine. But I say go look at it. That's what I say.
                                         
                                        That's the quickest way to achieve lamdom is not to do it. That's right. You're on your way to lamedom.
                                         
                                        Bill, have a good one, man.
                                         
                                        We'll see you next week.
                                         
                                        Hello.
                                         
                                        Go do twin chicanery.
                                         
                                        My gosh, that light is cool.
                                         
                                        I want a super powerful flashlight.
                                         
    
                                        What's wrong with you?
                                         
                                        Why do I want that so bad?
                                         
                                        You don't need that.
                                         
                                        I don't need it at all.
                                         
                                        But if you told me it was 50 bucks, I'd do it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wouldn't even think about it.
                                         
                                        And I would annoy my neighbors.
                                         
    
                                        700 bucks.
                                         
                                        700 bucks, not so much.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's probably good for when people are looking for missing people or cops are trying to find
                                         
                                        sure a suspect or something you know i don't know i'm no cop i'm not the fuzz all right let's get uh bobby bobby's in
                                         
                                        the chat so we're good he's here he's here he's at least able to log in oh good he doesn't have to be
                                         
                                        on camera if you don't want him be he can he can just chill but let's find out what's happening here
                                         
                                        when i click this science oh look he is on camera bobby you look you look like he
                                         
    
                                        just ran a marathon what's going on yeah we'll see if it's okay my internet went down like 10
                                         
                                        minutes ago so this is lTE do i sound right you're on your phone yeah you sound okay you sound like
                                         
                                        you're on a phone but you sound fine it's good enough and you and i have the same taste in ikea
                                         
                                        display units yeah yeah right there yeah exactly very nice i always want is that wrong that i
                                         
                                        always want those fake tvs and fake uh no nothing wrong with that at all i love that stuff
                                         
                                        Well, what are you going to do with it?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Nothing good.
                                         
    
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        That's the problem is, you know.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        I don't have enough crap, Brian.
                                         
                                        You know I have enough crap.
                                         
                                        I can't do it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        That's why Tina yells at me.
                                         
    
                                        Well, Bobby's back.
                                         
                                        He's our science correspondent.
                                         
                                        Comes on the show on Tuesdays and shares scientific knowledge with us.
                                         
                                        And, of course, runs a podcast about science as well called All Around Science.
                                         
                                        And he ran a huge marathon today thing.
                                         
                                        Not a marathon.
                                         
                                        Well, what is it?
                                         
                                        That was the marathon, right?
                                         
    
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        The marathon is 26.2 miles.
                                         
                                        It was my longest training run.
                                         
                                        in the whole 30 week training process it was 20 miles so definitely long i woke up at 5 o'clock
                                         
                                        this morning and because you have to i was treating this run as sort of a a total dry run like let's
                                         
                                        treat it like it's the marathon do everything i'm going to do on the marathon and see where like
                                         
                                        weaknesses in my prep are and stuff like that and um so i got up you want to get up and make
                                         
                                        sure you eat something like two to three hours before you start your run and all this kind of
                                         
    
                                        stuff and um and it went well i'm pretty beat but uh was it just you was just you or do you have
                                         
                                        any do you have anybody else there with you to like compare times or you know i don't know run at
                                         
                                        the same time or is it just you it's just me people suggest it all along the way that i get
                                         
                                        like a running group or a running partner or something but i don't really like people that much
                                         
                                        so i didn't i didn't sound like me i can relate yeah
                                         
                                        You sound like me.
                                         
                                        I'd want to do it on my own, too.
                                         
                                        I don't like cycling with other people.
                                         
    
                                        I like cycling by myself.
                                         
                                        Totally, totally agree with that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, especially that you don't want that kid in front of you.
                                         
                                        You don't want that kid anymore.
                                         
                                        To your left, to your left.
                                         
                                        That guy.
                                         
                                        To your left.
                                         
                                        Well, anyway, it's good to see you.
                                         
    
                                        It's a related topic today, right?
                                         
                                        What are you laying on us?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I was pulling up my, because I don't have my computer connected to the internet.
                                         
                                        I wasn't just looking at my phone.
                                         
                                        I was pulling up the notes.
                                         
                                        that I have from my from my thumb.
                                         
                                        Like, oh, yeah, sure, I went on a run today.
                                         
    
                                        Checking your social media.
                                         
                                        We got a question last week about cramps and whether mustard.
                                         
                                        Oh, right, yeah.
                                         
                                        Able to relieve cramps.
                                         
                                        And if it does, how does it work, stuff like that.
                                         
                                        And I didn't really have information off the top of my head, so I decided to do a little bit of looking into it.
                                         
                                        and the short answer is mustard probably doesn't do anything but there's a I don't like to
                                         
                                        crap on people's like things that they think work for them you know people have whatever
                                         
    
                                        I'm not that type I'm not a debunker you know like some people are like I'm going to tell you
                                         
                                        why you're wrong and you know if it's not whatever but some some of the other things
                                         
                                        about like why it doesn't work are actually interesting and what like
                                         
                                        cramps are and stuff like that so um so the to understand leg cramps you have to sort of
                                         
                                        understand why your muscles contract and the the process is basically your brain sends a
                                         
                                        signal through your neurons to your muscles and um this is interesting actually you know your
                                         
                                        your neurons they they send these electrical signals through like you know you can compare
                                         
                                        them to wires that's how it's always compared right um and and they go from one
                                         
    
                                        neuron to the next but when they get to your muscles they're just you've got a big beefy muscle
                                         
                                        and the the neurons just like end at the muscle they're just like grabbing onto your muscle
                                         
                                        almost like you know webby fingers just wrapped around your muscle and then the electrical
                                         
                                        signal hits your muscle fibers and then kicks off what's called an action potential that goes
                                         
                                        down the muscle and that tells it to um that it needs to contract yeah and uh when that happens
                                         
                                        like basically calcium
                                         
                                        and I'm telling you all these details
                                         
                                        not because I'm trying to make you
                                         
    
                                        a doctor
                                         
                                        but because the steps
                                         
                                        along the way help understand why
                                         
                                        cramping happens and why people
                                         
                                        think that certain
                                         
                                        remedies
                                         
                                        would help
                                         
                                        and so
                                         
    
                                        after the electrical signal
                                         
                                        hits the muscles
                                         
                                        basically that kicks off a process where calcium
                                         
                                        ions
                                         
                                        dumped out of storage and flood the muscle and that allows the muscle to contract and the muscle
                                         
                                        uses an energy molecule called ATP so calcium and ATP are really important in what we're
                                         
                                        going to talk about but the the muscles use ATP to actually do the contraction and then when
                                         
                                        it's done there's a there's a pump called a fast calcium pump that that pumps the calcium
                                         
    
                                        back into its storage so it can happen again right um and that
                                         
                                        That pump that puts the calcium away uses a sodium and potassium gradient to get that done.
                                         
                                        So those are four things that are really important in muscle contraction.
                                         
                                        Sodium, potassium, calcium, and ATP.
                                         
                                        So the leading theory about why muscle cramps happen, and it's actually not a lot is really well understood about why different cramps happen.
                                         
                                        Yeah, interesting that it's still theoretical.
                                         
                                        You'd think that this would be an area that we know a lot more about, but...
                                         
                                        Yeah, and the leading hypotheses, there are kind of two of them,
                                         
    
                                        and the first one has to do with what those things I just described,
                                         
                                        basically a breakdown in the process.
                                         
                                        So one of them is that there's a problem with those fast calcium pumps,
                                         
                                        putting the calcium back into storage.
                                         
                                        And so that means that it's just not putting it back in,
                                         
                                        so the calcium is still on the muscle,
                                         
                                        not letting it let go
                                         
                                        so it's because the calcium
                                         
    
                                        allowed the muscle to contract
                                         
                                        if the calcium stays there
                                         
                                        then it's very difficult for the muscle
                                         
                                        to let go
                                         
                                        the other thing is because
                                         
                                        the muscle uses that energy molecule
                                         
                                        ATP to do the work
                                         
                                        of moving the muscle back and forth
                                         
    
                                        that could be another reason
                                         
                                        maybe why cramping is having is there's not enough
                                         
                                        ATP available so basically not enough
                                         
                                        energy in your body to do it okay so if they're so now that the science the detailed science
                                         
                                        lesson is over all of the all of the different remedies that people try address the reason
                                         
                                        that people come up with them or theorize that they might work or anything like that are
                                         
                                        usually addressing one of those issues um so you'll hear things like um um so you'll hear things like uh
                                         
                                        Like hydration is important and electrolytes are important.
                                         
    
                                        Now, why are electrolytes important?
                                         
                                        Because usually those types of things have, whenever your electrolytes are imbalanced,
                                         
                                        it can mess up the sodium and potassium balance in your body,
                                         
                                        which would mess up those pumps getting the calcium back to you out of your muscles, right?
                                         
                                        Right, right.
                                         
                                        So some people theorize that.
                                         
                                        That's actually one of the reasons why people think that mustard might work
                                         
                                        or why they did think it might work is because there's a lot of sodium in in mustard right
                                         
    
                                        so it's just another another placebo deal if they think it does like again we're not trying to
                                         
                                        debunk here but is that what's going on if somebody takes it and goes on it very much could be so so yeah
                                         
                                        there's like i said without going into the laundry list of all the different things that people
                                         
                                        try you know like pickle juice and and um and there are some medications that people have tried
                                         
                                        before and have tried to develop um the long and the short of it is there's not
                                         
                                        not a lot of evidence that any of them work to treat muscle cramps.
                                         
                                        If you have a muscle cramp right now, there's probably nothing you can do about it.
                                         
                                        And it makes sense if you think about it.
                                         
    
                                        Because if you consume a bunch of mustard, what's the reason you're trying to do that
                                         
                                        is because maybe there's something in the mustard that would get to your muscles
                                         
                                        and allow relief and help with relief.
                                         
                                        But your metabolism isn't going to get anything from the mustard into your bloodstream
                                         
                                        for probably at least an hour, right?
                                         
                                        and you're typically going to feel a relief before then
                                         
                                        and so the only thing that anybody really knows
                                         
                                        is super effective at relieving muscle cramps is stretching
                                         
    
                                        and that's kind of what you naturally are
                                         
                                        like whenever you get a cramp that's what you do right you're like
                                         
                                        and then you just stretch it out until it feels better
                                         
                                        so you mentioned placebo that's probably what a lot of people are thinking
                                         
                                        so a lot of these like home remedies
                                         
                                        that people use
                                         
                                        that maybe don't really work and are kind of
                                         
                                        placebo, the reason people think they work and they make a connection
                                         
    
                                        is because it feels a lot
                                         
                                        better to get up, go get a
                                         
                                        spoonful of mustard, try to eat
                                         
                                        it, and be doing something
                                         
                                        rather than just
                                         
                                        waiting for it to take care of itself
                                         
                                        on its own. Exactly.
                                         
                                        And so, I mean, if that
                                         
    
                                        helps, because it also takes your mind off
                                         
                                        of it in a way, because you're focused on a task,
                                         
                                        you know?
                                         
                                        And so if that helps, then that
                                         
                                        helps people, you know, get through it, but stretching by the time, by the time the mustard
                                         
                                        has done its thing, you're probably stretching. And so by the time you eat the mustard,
                                         
                                        you've probably stretched it out too. So there's a closer. Oh, yeah. I always heard about that.
                                         
                                        Yeah. The time thing is it's like enough time for it to ease on its own. And then you're thinking,
                                         
    
                                        well, it's because I ate the mustard 15 minutes ago. Right. Right. It's like, no, it probably was
                                         
                                        going to happen anyway. All right. So my wife, every night, not every night, some nights will take
                                         
                                        a supplement that is
                                         
                                        magnesium and calcium.
                                         
                                        So a combination of magnesium calcium,
                                         
                                        I don't know what the ratio is or whatever.
                                         
                                        And she claims that it just eliminates
                                         
                                        Jimmy legs, like just poof gone.
                                         
    
                                        Nocturnal.
                                         
                                        Are you talking about nocturnal?
                                         
                                        Like the kind where you can't freaking sleep.
                                         
                                        It's just like you're checking your legs around
                                         
                                        and it's just like your restless leg syndrome.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        Well, restless leg syndrome is not the same as muscle cramps.
                                         
                                        Right, right.
                                         
    
                                        It's not connected to that.
                                         
                                        But I assume, like, I've had Jimmy Legs plenty of times.
                                         
                                        I'll take her weird supplement.
                                         
                                        Doesn't do anything for me.
                                         
                                        Zip, not a nothing.
                                         
                                        But she's like, ah, and then sleeps.
                                         
                                        Now, either she's just got a really good placebo effect going,
                                         
                                        or it's just chemically working for her and mine.
                                         
    
                                        Mine's just resistant to whatever I do.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I know that Restless Leg Syndrome actually is also another thing that's not well understood.
                                         
                                        It's weird that muscle in your legs.
                                         
                                        Nobody understands them, I guess.
                                         
                                        How do they work?
                                         
                                        magnesium and calcium are also supplements that people take for leg cramps too though
                                         
                                        and so there's nothing that works to help really that you can take no evidence
                                         
    
                                        I always have to caveat it with that there's no evidence that that any treatments work
                                         
                                        but the evidence on prevention is a little bit different which is what you're talking
                                         
                                        about Scott trying to prevent it there's maybe weak evidence that some things work
                                         
                                        for prevention like
                                         
                                        I think there was one paper I ran across
                                         
                                        that talked about mustard for prevention
                                         
                                        like taking a spoonful of mustard every night
                                         
                                        before you went to bed
                                         
    
                                        there are some
                                         
                                        some people think that it's not because of the sodium in it
                                         
                                        that it actually might be because there's some chemical
                                         
                                        in the mustard that
                                         
                                        that stimulates some enzyme in your mouth
                                         
                                        or something like that that then kicks off some kind
                                         
                                        of neural pathway thing
                                         
                                        I don't know it sounded
                                         
    
                                        complicated to me
                                         
                                        So I don't really get it.
                                         
                                        But, I mean, the things that people think if they're going to work for prevention of leg cramps that work the best are just stretching ahead of exercise, proper carb intake, like proper fueling before exercise and electrolyte.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But again, the evidence is weak for that.
                                         
                                        And that's just exercise-induced leg cramps.
                                         
                                        There's basically all the science that I read said that if you're experiencing nocturnal lead cramps, sorry.
                                         
                                        You're just going to have them.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's a bummer.
                                         
                                        I mean, I've had one of those, what do they call them, Charlie horses in the middle of the night?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's the leg cramps.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I don't, very rare.
                                         
                                        And it's usually because I, I don't know, started jogging again or something, you know, there's usually something I can point to.
                                         
                                        but but those here's how those goes it's like two in the morning i roll over and go
                                         
    
                                        like that kind of sound comes out of me and my wife goes what what and i go uh charlie horse
                                         
                                        grab my foot grab my foot and so she'll grab it and do like kind of the hold it tight thing so
                                         
                                        that it's not spasming and then it goes away and then we both can't go back to sleep and then there's
                                         
                                        your night it's a great way to look well it's it's funny that you say that because that's
                                         
                                        another reason why people have all these different remedies for um for charlie horses for
                                         
                                        nocturnal leg cramps is because the older you get the more likely you are to get them and and it can
                                         
                                        really especially if you have them frequently and you it can really lower your quality of life
                                         
                                        quite a bit um because it's like you said you have them in the middle of night you can't get back
                                         
    
                                        to sleep sometimes the pain can last for hours or you know some people
                                         
                                        just say a day.
                                         
                                        It's brutal.
                                         
                                        It's brutal.
                                         
                                        It looks like three naked men wrestling under your leg muscle.
                                         
                                        Like they're all in there.
                                         
                                        I'm going to get you.
                                         
                                        And you can just see it kind of like undulate.
                                         
    
                                        Why are they naked?
                                         
                                        Oh, I don't know why they're naked.
                                         
                                        Why are they naked?
                                         
                                        That's how they're greased up and naked.
                                         
                                        And that's how they get them under your epidermis if they're not naked and greased up.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Well, so my big takeaway from this is I'm hungry for mustard.
                                         
                                        Is that normal?
                                         
    
                                        Why am I hungry?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I could eat a hot dog right now with copious amounts of mustard because that's all I hear you say is mustard.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wrap it in a paper towel.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
    
                                        Bobby, always fun to talk about this stuff with you, of course.
                                         
                                        Super cool that you're Mr. Runner now.
                                         
                                        And not only that, but look at you all spry and ready for a segment anyway.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't know how you did it, but you did it.
                                         
                                        I'm here to help.
                                         
                                        Oh, well, good.
                                         
                                        Well, you're very helpful.
                                         
                                        I'm here to believe you.
                                         
    
                                        If you guys have questions or thoughts about the segment or want us to toss something over to Bobby, send those in the morning stream at gmail.com.
                                         
                                        Happy to do that.
                                         
                                        Tell people about All Around Science, where they can get it.
                                         
                                        You can get it at All Around Science.com.
                                         
                                        That's our website or the podcast is called All Around Science.
                                         
                                        We talk about science stuff, and we're not experts.
                                         
                                        So we really try to approach it, like we're not scientist.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        So we really try to approach it from that perspective.
                                         
                                        like we just really love science
                                         
                                        and we want other people to love it too
                                         
                                        we just did
                                         
                                        the episode that was released yesterday
                                         
                                        it was about fluoride and how it
                                         
                                        like why and
                                         
                                        how it's so good for your teeth
                                         
    
                                        why is it so
                                         
                                        like it's it must be really good
                                         
                                        they put it in all the water
                                         
                                        and
                                         
                                        that's a mandated thing on the federal
                                         
                                        level and and so why
                                         
                                        what does it do why is it always you're getting
                                         
                                        the varnish painted on and the
                                         
    
                                        dentist's office, like, how does it actually help and why is that? And we talked about
                                         
                                        when your kids are going to finally get to go back to school without masks. Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that'll be a good day, won't it? That'd be a great day. It will be a good day.
                                         
                                        Kids will like that, I think. I think they're sick of this as we are. Although maybe they're
                                         
                                        better about it than half the adults I know, you know. Yeah, my kids don't care. My daughter,
                                         
                                        my older daughter, she, even when we're in a situation where it's probably
                                         
                                        fine. She is extra cautious.
                                         
                                        She's like, no, I think I'm going to wear me.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah. Yeah, my
                                         
                                        kids are older, obviously, but
                                         
                                        I've just noticed, like, when Van has to put one on
                                         
                                        to go to the dinosaur museum, he's only two.
                                         
                                        He wears it. He's not pulling it off.
                                         
                                        He's not freaking out. He's not irritated
                                         
                                        by it. He's just sort of
                                         
                                        having on. He's not screaming. This is a violation of my
                                         
    
                                        civil rights. Yeah, he doesn't do any of that.
                                         
                                        So, YouTube guy, that was Brian. That wasn't
                                         
                                        me. That was Brian.
                                         
                                        Just kidding. Oh, gosh.
                                         
                                        That's like, what, three or four times you got
                                         
                                        political today. I know. He just keeps happening.
                                         
                                        May as well just call this. Spoiler alert. Politics show
                                         
                                        and move on. All right. Well, hey, Bobby, it's
                                         
    
                                        great to hear from you. I hope you get all the mustard
                                         
                                        you need today to feel better and not feel better,
                                         
                                        but just, you know, not have any cramps. I wish no
                                         
                                        cramps on you, is what I'm saying. Yeah.
                                         
                                        We'll see you next time. All right, there goes
                                         
                                        Bobby into the wind.
                                         
                                        There he goes. Real quick, I wanted to show people this.
                                         
                                        Kim very nicely just brought these down.
                                         
    
                                        As I said, this just handed to me, literally.
                                         
                                        Yeah, just handed to me. So right now, up on
                                         
                                        the store. Oh, yes. All these
                                         
                                        on Twitter. I skipped last year, and I don't know
                                         
                                        I think I was just depressed about the pandemic, but if you like Christmas cards and you're
                                         
                                        looking for some unique cards to send to some friends, let me pull each one out so I can show
                                         
                                        them here. They are now available and up on the store. For some reason, I can't, oh, there
                                         
                                        it is. I have a Ghostbusters theme one. Anyway, they're in this set of four, all drawn and
                                         
    
                                        written by me. These are not folded yet, so you can't see the, there's just a crease.
                                         
                                        you know, so you can fold them
                                         
                                        obviously. But each one of them got the little
                                         
                                        frog pants greetings, a little frog
                                         
                                        that's going. This one says
                                         
                                        told you I wouldn't ghost you
                                         
                                        this year. Merry Christmas.
                                         
                                        And he's wearing a, you know, he's a Ghostbusters
                                         
    
                                        thing. And then this one
                                         
                                        is Santa Claus riding a
                                         
                                        sandworm from Dune saying
                                         
                                        the spice must flow ho-ho. Get it?
                                         
                                        Get it? Because he's Santa Claus
                                         
                                        with the ho-ho, right? I get it. Yeah, there's
                                         
                                        another one where he's just, Santa Claus is too
                                         
                                        busy playing a game and he'll be right to you after he finishes this game.
                                         
    
                                        And then final one.
                                         
                                        He's playing Animal Crossing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                        Clearly, that's all I'm doing these days.
                                         
                                        And then there's this buff Santa saying, what have you been up to in the last 12 months?
                                         
                                        Looking all buffing right.
                                         
                                        He's got nipples and everything.
                                         
                                        So if you want your own set of these amazing, this four set of cards to send to your favorite people and your family and friends list, that set is up there and now available at the frogpants.com slash store site.
                                         
    
                                        And plenty of time to get him to you if you actually.
                                         
                                        now. So, hop in there
                                         
                                        and check them out if you desire to do
                                         
                                        such. They are very cool, Scott.
                                         
                                        Very cool. Thank you, Brian.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        That's it for the show. I do want to thank
                                         
                                        a couple of patrons, though.
                                         
    
                                        Three of them.
                                         
                                        Before you do that, let me really quickly mention.
                                         
                                        There is a new Tadpool Secret
                                         
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                                        um you can uh sign up to trade gifts with some random member of the tadpool i've done it every year i'm going to do it again this year and um uh it's a blast so go find the tadpool secret santa post on discord it's pinned same with facebook it's pinned um i'm not going to read that whole long link because it's a bunch of a bunch of gibberish letters but um somebody needs to make a bit dutli out of there yeah we could do that uh anyway sign up and uh
                                         
                                        And the deadline is the end of this month.
                                         
                                        You've only got two weeks to do it.
                                         
                                        November 30th is the deadline.
                                         
                                        And once again, you might get lucky and draw me.
                                         
                                        And I'm probably just going to send a bunch of spice gruel shit.
                                         
                                        Yeah, why not?
                                         
                                        I'll send my secrets on it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I get.
                                         
                                        I feel you.
                                         
                                        Also, real quick, I did it last year as well, and I loved it.
                                         
                                        If you are like, well, I'm not a part of either of those communities, it's really easy.
                                         
                                        Go to frogpants.com slash TMS.
                                         
                                        The Discord link is there.
                                         
                                        It doesn't require anything special.
                                         
                                        No passwords or anything.
                                         
    
                                        You just get in.
                                         
                                        And the same with the Facebook group.
                                         
                                        Now, that one, I think they approve you, but it's real easy.
                                         
                                        You just sign up and then Jeannie or somebody will give you approval.
                                         
                                        So head over there, do that, be that, be a part of it.
                                         
                                        It's a fun thing we do every year and would love to have you involved.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Okay, here are these patrons.
                                         
    
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                                        All right, that's it.
                                         
                                        Brian, we should play a song.
                                         
    
                                        Do you want to do that?
                                         
                                        We should.
                                         
                                        I mean, we should.
                                         
                                        You could, but should you.
                                         
                                        Should you?
                                         
                                        We should.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        And you should.
                                         
    
                                        This one is a good one right here.
                                         
                                        Let me make sure that it is.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Did I pick?
                                         
                                        There we go.
                                         
                                        Yes, I did pick the right one.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Dustin wrote in and said.
                                         
    
                                        Dear old S&B, I thought I'd write a quick request to celebrate my oldest son, Logan, attaining the rank of eagle, scouting Boy Scouts of America.
                                         
                                        On November 3rd, he's now a third-generation eagle, myself and my stepfather are both eagles, even one of my brother-in-laws is an eagle.
                                         
                                        After the pandemic put a stranglehold on earning merit badges and Zoom taking over for campgrounds or campouts and meetings for a while, he's finally pushed through and finished his project and gotten all his eyes dotted and his tease cross.
                                         
                                        and has had his final board of review on November 3rd.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        There's no song that comes to mind for this,
                                         
                                        but I'm sure Brian can come up with something,
                                         
                                        and it really doesn't matter when you fit this in.
                                         
    
                                        Logan likes to listen to songs that are covers of game themes
                                         
                                        and background music,
                                         
                                        so hopefully that gives you a direction to go in.
                                         
                                        If not, dealer's choice.
                                         
                                        Thanks for all the years of entertainment you have provided.
                                         
                                        How about a tender crisp bacon, cheddar ranch for lunch?
                                         
                                        Oh, we can totally do that.
                                         
                                        I can totally do that.
                                         
    
                                        By the way,
                                         
                                        my people. Like, I love more than almost anything these days. It's, it's soundtracks from video games
                                         
                                        that I love the most and remixes of stuff. I'm completely obsessed with a, with a Animal Crossing
                                         
                                        cover that I played at the top of the show today. Oh, it's great. I love that one. It's so good.
                                         
                                        Like, I just love that stuff. So I feel him. I feel like I know your son already. All right, so
                                         
                                        here we go. I knew I had it. All right. Sorry, go ahead. Continue.
                                         
                                        All right. So the cover I chose is Metroid Metal. This is from a band called Stemage, and they do covers of metal covers of video game songs. This comes from the Brinstar level, and it is that theme, the theme to that level, done in heavy metal style. Here is Metroid Metal, Brinstar, by Stemmage.
                                         
                                        I'm going to be able to be.
                                         
    
                                        I'm not
                                         
                                        I'm going to be.
                                         
                                        I'm going to
                                         
                                        I'm going to
                                         
                                        I'm
                                         
                                        I'm going to
                                         
                                        I'm
                                         
                                        I'm
                                         
    
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        I'm going to be able to be.
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        You know,
                                         
                                        I'm going to be able to be.
                                         
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