The Morning Stream - TMS 2213: Aggressive Swabbage

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

Seinfeld Curious. Customs Agents are Little Seizers. And I says, I says. What's the deal with these Seinfeld episodes? Half an Inch is All the Way In. Deep Penetration Swabbing. I'm No Doctor. I Don't... Even Play One on TV. The New Karate Detective! Full hog up your nose. Happy Birthday Teri Hatcher. Inflamed Reich Sinus. You want Scientology? That's how you get Scientology. Cara De vigga jee. Tom's Tech Time! We finished Netflix with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:29 I'm no doctor. I don't even play one on TV. A new karate detective. Full hog up your nose. Happy birthday, Terry Hatcher. Inflamed rach sinus. You want Scientology? That's how you get Scientology.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Kara D. Viggy. Tom's Tech Time. We finished Netflix with Randy and more. On this episode of Dermorning Stream. Flannel boards provide action. A second good reason for their use. Action arouses interest. It also compels attention.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Here, no, none of that. This is the time. to be gay. The morning stream with Scott and Brian and a caveman. The morning stream. Hello everybody. Welcome to the morning stream. It is Wednesday, December 8th, 2021.
Starting point is 00:01:29 One. I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi, Scott. You sound so sick. I know we're going to get to that. Hey, is the caveman? I've been wondering about this. Is the caveman, Brian Dunaway or Tom Merritt or Randy Deluxe on today? Which one of them is the caveman? Schleiker is the caveman. So we screwed up. Yeah, I screwed up because he's not on today. So I have to, yeah. Okay. All right. As the urban dictionary would say, shit the sheets. That's what they would say. Yes, you shit the sheets. Yeah. Let's talk about how you're feeling, man, because people can probably tell in your voice that you are not up to, as I would put it, 100%. No. In fact, it keeps kind of yo-yoing.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And so here's the deal. I got this horrendous mega-cold, super cold, some people are calling it. It's going around. It's a thing. It's a known thing. Are we no longer blaming Van, by the way? No, we blame him completely. He is absolutely patient zero.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He brought this on. This scourge was brought on by a 10. two-year-old and it was still worth it because I'd rather spend time with him and do anything else in this whole world but man it's real at some point at some point it will feel less worth it though probably yeah he just this is his reaction when I blamed him whatever so yeah so he um yeah he gave it to us uh so for whatever reason Carter hasn't gotten it and Kim has a slight sore throat but nothing serious anyway as a result of this 10, no, wait, I'm sorry, two weeks ago today is when it started.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So that's what, 12 days? Or no, it's a, four, well, two weeks ago, it would be 14 days. 14 days. And it's been like roller coastery, like at first it was real bad, and then it got better, and then it got worse again, and they got better. And then lately, horrendously bad, like just keeping me up all night, like horrible congestion, can't breathe, hurts like a mother. It feels like my face is going to fall off.
Starting point is 00:03:27 It hurts so bad. So it's just been real stupid. And I finally said, all right, fine. I'll call my doctor, see what they want me to do. I call her. I go, Dr. Vodry, that's her name. Hey, what's up? I got this thing.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And I'd really like to do something for it. And she says, well, here's what you have to do. We can't just prescribe like it. Because I think it's a sinus infection, honestly, because it's all pain up in this corner of my head and my ear and everything. And she says, we can't just give you like a prescription for like antibiotic you may very well be 100% right about what it is but we have to rule out COVID first that's just the rules these days so sure
Starting point is 00:04:09 you got to get a COVID test and I said well other people who had this all at the same time got COVID tests which you know made it so maybe we didn't need to get one and I'm not I don't go out I try not to go out anywhere when I'm sick anyway so I haven't seen it you know like I'm already kind of quarantining she's like yeah but you just need we need to be sure so you know what we're treating. I said, all right. There's the rules. Freaking fine. Here's where things get stupid.
Starting point is 00:04:33 All right. Yesterday, the only COVID appointment time I could get was at a Walgreens drive up. Sure. None of the hospitals had slots. Everybody's full. I think there's like a ton of testing going on right now because of the Thanksgiving holiday. A lot of people are sick or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:50 There's tons of new cases in Utah. So whatever. So we make this appointment. The best they could do was this Walgreens and the best they could do is, you yesterday morning and therefore TMS was shut down. I wasn't so sick that we couldn't, I could have done TMS. I was going to do TMS, but the stupid freaking appointment got in the way. And I was like, if I don't get it now, I don't know when I'm going to get it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I need to get this going. This sucks. So we lock it in. Here's the fun part. We always say on the show, health comes first. And there is no listener out there that would disagree with that. And if they do, you guys can just stop listening right now. Yeah, you go take a flying dump is what you can do.
Starting point is 00:05:27 the show over our health and, you know, go. That's right. The show you love so much, you'd sure like to see your host suffer as they make it. Exactly, yes. So I go to, I go to the appointment. All green. Kim goes with me because she just wanted to go. I'm like, fine.
Starting point is 00:05:44 She has to drive. Well, she wanted to. I could have driven. I could have driven just fine. It would have been no big deal. But she's like, you're all headachey and weird and I don't want you driving. I said, all right, fine. So she takes me.
Starting point is 00:05:56 and we get to the thing and we're in the lineup and it's about it says get in the line about five minutes before your appointment and we did we were right on time we did exactly as they said to do here's the problem nobody in front of us is is taken is mindful of what the time is they're all taking whatever time they need to go so it took us like 20 minutes in that line it's fine it's fine i don't mind i know i realize it'd be a delay whatever we get up there lady goes hi welcome to the thing she's just on a speaker uh here's how it works but i need to see your id and i went right shit oh no i forgot my wallet completely forgot it so i'm like can i show you my phone i got like a insurance card what else there's other forms i got other forms of proof that i exist that's me here's oh here's my vax card does that count you know this sort of thing yeah no she won't take any of it the rules are you got to have your freaking state issued id it either has to be a driver's license or a state issue id be alternative so i says
Starting point is 00:06:59 so then i says i says you says uh i say well can we can we reschedule here she goes no i don't do any of that you have to go back online and i'm like we just
Starting point is 00:07:13 drove and it's like a 15 minute it's not a huge drive but a 15 minute drive to this location right and um yeah but there's no guarantee that if you go home and come back that you know you'll you'll still be within your appointment. Well, that's what we asked her. So we said, if we did this within 20 minutes, could we still sneak in line and make this work? She goes, she pauses and she goes, yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:07:35 I can make that work. Okay, good, good. So we went, pulled out of there, rushing home, you know, as fast as the limit will let us. We get home, I rush into the house, I run down here, I know right where my wallet is, and I look where I think it is. And I'm like, shit, it's not rare. It's supposed to be there. It's not there. Oh, yeah, right. I cleaned up that area. It's over here now, I grab it, make sure the, the licenses in there, run upstairs, get in the car, rush out there again, and it was no problem. Now, that was no problem. It sucked because, you know, nobody likes to go back and get their stuff. But I get in line, and we get up to the lady, she hands us the stuff, she says how to use it. And she says, this single swab, I've only done the
Starting point is 00:08:23 spit test before when I did the other test. I didn't do the swab to us. She gave us a package. It's a self-induced swab. Pretty common now. And you take out the swab and she tells me I have to get it up at least an inch and a half to two inches. So I put my finger where that
Starting point is 00:08:45 is. Okay? To make sure I've got that much length on it. And she says you need to move it around hard and rapidly for eight turns. Right. Okay. Interesting. Mine was five turns, ten seconds. Great.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Oh, there was a time limit on yours. Time limit and also they said a half an inch of swab. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mine was way, they were way long. Well, yeah. They really wanted it deep, baby. They wanted it deep. So I went knuckle deep on this thing and did the eight turns.
Starting point is 00:09:21 now left side of my head's been pretty good I haven't really had a problem over here so no problem I mean it's it's uncomfortable but you do it and it's fine and I'm in my head I'm going one two three or you know yeah all that I get it done I go over to the right side where I know I this is where the Nazis are right they're over on the right side they're just I hate those guys they're such a holes they're in there just trying to kill everybody and I'm so inflamed and already messed up and headachey and it's awful. I'm thinking, this may kill me. So, Kim, if I die here, tell everyone that it wasn't this lame, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Like, I need a more, I need a cooler story than this. Yeah. So I take the thing, I put it up inch and a half, two inches into my nose. And I pause for a second because I'm like, I know this is going to be so bad. And then I just grit my teeth and go. And I go one, two, three. and I am nearly in tears at about rotation number six. But I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I am going full blow here because I don't want to go back. I don't want to false negative. You don't want to say, well, your test was inconclusive. We need you to come back. Yeah. And what I'm doing is imagine any part of yourself that's inflamed.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And then take a rough thing and go on the inflamed thing. That's what I'm doing. And so I'm going brr on this horrible, like swollen inflamed hair, horrible area inside my face. Yeah. And it, I mean, it was blindingly painful to the point where I really, I thought it was going to pass out, dude. For real. I was like, see, when you, when we were texting and, and you said, oh, my God, swab, you know, nearly killed me.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I'm thinking you had a really aggressive medical technician that just went ham hog or whatever the phrase is, full ham, full hog. Full hog, full ham. Up your nose. Because that happened to us in Ireland. Like we, we, for the, we, we've done maybe six swab tests over the course of COVID, either self-administered or doctor-administered for travel and stuff. And the only time we ever had aggressive swabbage was this dude in Ireland. I'm going to get it right up there.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You better hold still your pansy American. I'm going to shove this up your brain. I'm going to tickle that part of your brain that makes you remember me. Yeah, see, that, at least I'd have an excuse. Instead, this self-inflicted. It was self-inflicted pain swappage. Yeah, it hurt real bad. And then when I was done, just eyes watering.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I looked like a monster. It just was horrible. And then it hurt way worse all day because I, you know, stimulated all this. You made it worse. Which makes me feel like, well, yeah, that kind of does back up the, sinus infection theory, right? Because that is, that is what would happen. Your sinuses would be inflamed. The swab would just aggravate them. And I haven't heard of that sort of thing being a symptom of COVID. No, I haven't either. I really... When she saw you make the pain face with a
Starting point is 00:12:32 swab, she should have said, all right. Yeah, he's got a sinus. But I really do, I mean, I don't think it's COVID at all, but whatever, we'll find out. And I don't know yet. That's the other thing, as these results are super late. And she says, if it's COVID, they'll call you. If it's not COVID, they'll email you. Okay. Well, do you also email me and call me if, like, what do you do? I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I don't understand. Here, hold on. I'm going to look real quick. Let's just check this morning. See if there's an email yet from Walgreens. Looks like, um, nothing yet. We, Tina and I went to, uh, went on the same day and had COVID tests right before the Ireland trip.
Starting point is 00:13:15 We went the same day, which was three days before the trip, because it needed to be a 72-hour result. I got my results within a day. She did not get hers until we were in the air on the way to Heathrow. So when we didn't have her results the day before, we're like, oh, crap, we've got to go to urgent care and get like an insta test done. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And it's a good thing we did because she wouldn't have been able to get on the plane. She didn't have a proof of a negative test until we did the Insta test. They're hardcore about that stuff, man. Yeah, yeah. They're not letting you screw her in. Well, this is one of those cases where, you know, my doctors got these rules and now, so now I can't, my biggest complaint in all this is, I know this is self-diagnosis, but I know, I haven't had a sinus infection for about 15 years. It's been a long time. Yeah. But this feels like that did 15 years ago. I just know the feeling. now it's possible you know COVID's weird does weird things um like 10 people got sick at that
Starting point is 00:14:19 that thing we were at but it was all from little kids they're all from van and these other two little kids and and nobody uh I don't know I don't know what everyone else's results were but the point is like I'm almost 100% certain certain but I'm no doctor I don't even play it on TV you know I'm just a dude what makes podcasts and art and so all I'm going to do is going to wait for this, and then when I get it back, and if it comes back negative, I'm going to be a little irritated, and I'm going to say, you know, you could have just gotten me a Z-pack or some kind of freaking, you know, low-grade antibiotic, and I'd be halfway over with this by now. Like, that's the problem is this isn't, this will probably dissipate on its own, but if I get
Starting point is 00:15:01 some antibiotics, it'll go quick. I would like to go quick. Yeah, yeah. Speed is of the essence. Damn it. I hope so, man. sucks watching you go through this. Blows, goats. What a horrible 30
Starting point is 00:15:16 days, dude. Two weeks ago, catch this. Week before that, bat goes out for freaking a week. Right. Oh, my God. Yeah. No, forget about you went back to back. I did go back to back. And the one difference was, or the one
Starting point is 00:15:32 stinker of the whole thing was, I laid next to van while he took a nap, and he coughed in my face. So, there you have it. What the F? All right. Hey, happy birthdays to a couple of folks in our tadpool. BioCow, who is a tech genius as well as a really cool dude, is having a birthday today. And Shojo Beats having her actual birthday today.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah. Not the fake birthday that I wished her on Monday, but the actual birthday, the real birthday. So we're going to play this for them. Happy birthday to you. And a happy new year. Yeah, there you go. Our brand new birthday track. You're the first.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Well, you're not technically the first, but. you're pretty close to the first non-beta run of the file. Right. Yes, exactly. I mean, technically she was. Chojo did get it Monday, even though it was the incorrect usage of it. Yeah. And it was kind of beta then.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I went and tightened it up and increased the volume a little bit. So this is full 1.0 release, guys. And you're our first folks to get it. So congratulations. And all of that on Halo Campaign Day. Halo Infinite Campaign comes out today. What a glorious time to be alive, to be a gamer, to be sick of Final Fantasy
Starting point is 00:16:47 cues and have something else to do. That'll be in your game pass. Yeah, it's part of Game Pass. Without Game Pass, you can get it too, but it's, you know, normal video game prices. And yeah, I'm excited. I haven't played it yet, but downloaded and ready to go. It's just today. Today's the release. And reviews are real good. Oh, good. Yeah, real good. Very excited. All right, Brian. Yeah. Why don't we, we didn't get to, no, we wouldn't have had one yesterday anyway, so for Dunaway, this is just
Starting point is 00:17:17 like you never left. Yeah, exactly. Dunaway didn't even notice that we weren't here yesterday. No. We're going to get him in. We're going to open the lines. 8014710462 is the number to call if you would like to participate in today's Babel Royale slash Tad Pooley feud. We'll get Dunaway in the call and then we'll get this going. And we'll give away some prizes.
Starting point is 00:17:37 That's the main thing. It's the holiday. and what better time to give free video games away than the holidays. That's time when you've got all the vacation time and the family coming over all the time to play him. Yeah, that's what I say. Well, it's ringing him and he ain't answering. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's in the server. He fooled us.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He fooled us. You fool. He is actually here. It's Brian Dunaway, everybody. Welcome him to the show. Hi, Brian. Fly, you fools. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Hi, Scott and Brian. Oh, me, man. Yeah, Discord decided it would do this little Christmas update because apparently need the little icon to have snow around it. So it just took a minute for it to finish launching. Oh, well, thank goodness for that, because where would we be without this freaking Christmas snow? The holiday edition of Discord, yes. Bah humbug. Yeah, bah humbug, I say.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Hey, it's good to have you here. I hope you're well, and welcome back. We're going to win some prizes today. How are you doing? How are you feeling over there? I'm doing pretty good, man. You sound miserable. Yeah, I'm not great.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You know what? I'm okay. It's actually better in the mornings. At night, it's nightmarish. It's so bad. What is the deal with that? Like, I understand you're winding down, sleep is needed. You know, the human body is whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:18:57 But for some reason, these kinds of head colds things just turn into the worst things at night. It's so bad. Well, Scott, it's because your immune system has been working all day, even though you haven't been doing it. much of anything your body's been going let me get that for you yeah and uh so it's it's been it's been working all day so by the end the day is exhausted man it's like i'm done yeah that makes sense well thank you dr denaway i appreciate your diagnosis you're welcome any time you've been more helpful than most doctors in my life this week um all right hey let's get to this whole thing uh we got a caller on the line let's see who this is hi thanks for waiting who's this
Starting point is 00:19:35 hi it's monica oh my gosh it's monica She made it through. She tries a lot. Yeah, I've seen this number pop up a lot, but then it's not always either too late or too early, and you're right on time today. Nicely done. Yay, I called six times. Yep, our first jersey. Is this our first Jersey girl, or I don't know, if it is?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Is it for the show? I don't know. I don't know. Might be. Yeah. Well, you're representing the entire state of New Jersey. Congratulations. And a great Kevin Smith film.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. It's a good movie. Hey, Brian, why don't you explain how this works? What are we doing? Yeah, well, it's time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpool on some nerdy topics, and Scott and Brian are going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's Scott and Brian's job to see how many of those answers they can guess.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Now, Wicked Kitten, your job is more important than ever, because for a change, you're playing the game instead of helping other people play the game, which is great. And you're either going to be working with Scott or Brian, depending on who starts the game. And if your team wins, you get a prize package, That includes whispers of a machine, whispers, and them's fighting herds. Oh, that sounds like some kind of cow thing.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Sort of cows or some sort of herd of animal. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Them's fighting hordes. So those are your prizes. But let's give you guys a topic. For this one, we had, I love telling you the numbers, we had 578 people who responded. 17 of them passed and 21 of the 21 people hated the topic so
Starting point is 00:21:13 Oh nice wow a topic hater Some sort of mass funeral for all the people that passed Are we going to do them individual funerals or just a mass funeral? Oh, okay Let's do it all that's convenient See them all pass Yes all right Put your hands on your buzzards and
Starting point is 00:21:31 I just I steer into it now by the way I hope you know that. No, I figured you're, yeah. I was so tired of accidentally saying I'm just on purpose saying it. All right. Put your hands on your buzzards. Name your favorite Seinfeld episode. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Oh, crap. Down away. Does it have to be the actual name? I'm going soup, Nazi. That's my. Okay, as you say, you can describe it if you don't know the actual title. Show me. That one actually does happen to be called a soup Nazi.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Show me the soup Nazi. Damn it. Number one answer on the board. All right. Well, I mean, that means you guys automatically have control. So congratulations. You and Monica, you're going to be playing together. Yeah, well done.
Starting point is 00:22:15 There are nine answers left on the board. Let's see how many of them you can get. Monica, how is your sign-filled knowledge? I've never watched the show. Excellent. All right. Well, I've got, I've got many. I'm pretty fun hot pockets in my sleeve threadnacks.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm just letting you. No. Hey, Monica, I think I got you covered. I think I'm going to, okay, so. Oh, by the way, and I'll let you know right away, unlike the hot pockets where I took answers like lava and I hate hot pockets or I'm foreign, what's a hot pocket? I did not include all the people who say, well, the 21 people who responded with various forms of, I hate sign filled.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Oh, that's true. Oh, who cares? If you don't have a favorite one's fine, just pass. Exactly. It's wrong with them. It's passed. I get it. What's great is not for everybody. What's great is for people who have never seen it and maybe do want to see an episode or two,
Starting point is 00:23:15 today's feud category will actually give you some of the most popular episodes. Oh, okay. Okay. Among our, among the tadpole. I'm going to defend those people only in the fact that they hate it. That's fine. You're allowed to hate things. Totally.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I live with a Seinfeld hater. and it's because Seinfeld is a very mean-spirited show Right? That's where the comedy is at. Yes. And if you can't deal with that kind of comedy, then you're not going to enjoy Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Sure. Right. All right. So, Monica, if you don't have a guess, I'm going to describe some that I loved. I wanted to, I wanted George at Vandalay Industries. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Say Vandlea Industries. Say Vandlea Industries. Say Bandele Industries. Delay Industries. That was part of a two-parter called The Boyfriend, which also had the Magic Lugie and a baseball player friend of Jerry's that wanted help moving a piano. Show me. Keith Hernandez, by the way, was the baseball friend. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I couldn't remember that. We couldn't remember who it was. Show me the boyfriend. Oh, are you kidding me? That's a good one. That one was number 14. in the list. People said it, but not enough people to make it move. Right. That's fine. Okay. Well, then I think we're in trouble because Scott is a sign-filled fiend, and I think he's going to know.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It's a sign fiend. He might be in trouble. He's a fine fiend. I think he's going to give us a few. We've seen a lot. All right. Let's go with... I might help the man to hurt him. Who knows? Yeah, you don't know. How about the contest? That's probably got to be in the top five. There you go. The infamous one about the masturbation contest where they see how long they can go without. I'm out, Jerry. Show me the contest.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Number two. All right. After that, I would say the lost in the parking lot one. I can't remember the name of it, but the mall parking lot one. Sure. Show me that's one called the parking garage. Yeah, it's early.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And that was actually the first episode I ever saw, which is funny because it's the one, it's the only one, well, not the only one, but one of the few that don't feature Jerry's a apartment in there at all. Oh, yeah. Show me the parking garage. Nice.
Starting point is 00:25:37 There you go. Okay. Now, I'm sorry, Monica. Don't be sorry. Don't be sorry. We're going to win that. We're going to, you may still win this.
Starting point is 00:25:45 These are top three no points. Exactly. You're getting, you're getting piddly points because these are all the easy answers. Yeah, I think you're going to be fine. All right. Next up, let's go with, um, oh, the Chinese restaurant. Oh, that's right. Cut right, cart right.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Stop taking all my good ones. Show me the Chinese restaurant. Well done. You're just knocking them right down the list, two, three, and four. That was the episode. I'll just say this as a lifelong fan of the show. That's the episode where the show figured out what it, what and who it was. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Everything prior to that was testing, fiddling around, not really sure. The pilot was a little rough. Everything was just like, uh, we don't know. That episode said it in. And from there on, that was Seinfeld. Anyway. For sure. Yeah, the soup Nazi and the Chinese restaurant were the two episodes that I've shown Tristan
Starting point is 00:26:40 because he, you know, was born too late to appreciate it when it was on first run. And Chinese restaurants, so much of that episode hangs on, they're not being cell phones in the world. And a pay phone on the wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would not work as well today, for sure. Or open table, for that matter. Like, all of those things would make that episode.
Starting point is 00:27:01 30 seconds long. So, so far, I've gone one, two, three, and four here. No, you went two, three, and four. Oh, two, three and four. You're right, because Brian got the top one. All right. Well, how about the reverse one where they went back and, they did the whole episode in reverse time, and they went to that wedding in India.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yes, the one in India that's all in reverse. All right, show me. That one is called, I had it. here. That's called the betrayal. Okay. Show me the betrayal. Oh, man. Only one person said the betrayal, and I think that's a love it or hate it episode.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think the Memento style delivery of that episode is admirable, but I think a lot of people hate that episode because it tried to break the mold so much. I don't mind it because there is some really funny George shit in that movie. There is. great payoffs in having the jokes told in that reverse method. Yeah, and he refused to poo in India. There was just no way he would have to poo. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 No wonder you liked it. Yeah, no wonder, I love that one. Don't want to poo on a trip. All right. Well, now it's you and Monica again. Done away. Monica, yeah. Monica, do you have anything off the top of your head, or I have one if not?
Starting point is 00:28:21 The only thing I can say is I know three quotes from Seinfeld from never watching it. Oh, okay. I can tell you those quotes. That's about all I can do for you. We'll give them the quotes. Let's hear it. Just give one quote now. Just give one. Don't give Scott freebies.
Starting point is 00:28:35 All right. All right. These pretzels are making me thirsty. No. No idea what it means. That's great. I know. I can't remember what episode that is, but I'm going to go, since I can't remember that one,
Starting point is 00:28:51 I'm going to go with the puffy shirt episode. Oh, that's like that's going to be middle area. Please, come on. I got plenty more, but I just, I feel like that one's got the best. chance. I don't want to be a pirate. Also features the low talker. Show me
Starting point is 00:29:07 the puffy shirt. Oh, yeah, number seven. Thank God. Sorry, chat. There you go. Now we've got ourselves the game here. All right, yes. Yes, now we're working with it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yes. Oh, see, these kind of scare me. There's so many that I love and I'm just afraid that are not going to I'm not going to fall within the range there. How about the... Yeah, a nine-year run on that show, so... My favorite episode, though, is when George comes out of the pool and he talks about the shrinkage.
Starting point is 00:29:47 We're too cold. That's the other quote. I was in the pool. That was the other quote. All right. I just, that's just got to be a good one, right? Come on, people. It's the shrinkage episode.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Sure. Yeah, that's called the Hamptons. That's the one where the gang goes up to, the Hamptons, and it features a topless woman, doesn't it? Yes, you can see her toplessness if you watch the Netflix. The new Netflix versions with the widescreen, yes, exactly. Show me the Hamptons. Oh, man. Number 11.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, I know. I was worried about that. It took a chance. All right. All right. I like this now. I should want with the other one. There's so many.
Starting point is 00:30:30 There are so many, yeah. It's really hard. All right. Oh, geez. Let's go with Roman Pau calling Scott out for being in the chat room talking. Nice. Yeah, what am I doing? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Get out of there. I don't see them. All right, they're gone there. Take your neck, NyQuil, addled brain, and get out of the chat room. Yeah, I don't know why I was losing it there. All right. Let's go with. Um, uh, what's the one where they, where he says moops.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Dang it. That's another one of my favorites. I'm sorry, the card says moops. Okay. I'm sorry. Is it the kid in the bubble and, uh, it's a bubble boy episode. Yeah, the episode is titled the bubble boy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:18 All right. Show me the card says moops. Oh, come on. Bubble boy was number 18. See, I was worried about that. That's one of my favorites, but I never See anybody talk about it except for us All right, well
Starting point is 00:31:34 What's that? Go ahead. I was going to say, like, isn't there one where we like discover Elaine's dancing or something? Oh, that is such a great meme. That is like the best meme. How about before we do that one, how about I I really got one that I really feel is topical And I want it to be there, but I mean, no, I mean, there's a whole.
Starting point is 00:31:59 culture behind the Festivus movement. Oh, shit. And so I just feel like that's got to be it. That's got to be it. Yeah, that episode is called The Strike, which you never would guess. And they go to a Hanukkah party. Lane uses a fake number to avoid a date. And then George's dad and George get into Festivus.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Yes. For the rest of us. And it's called the strike. Show me the strike. I don't think God. Number five. Oh, I thought was going to get a strike on that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Oh, I see what you did. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Oh, you only have one. Both of us only have one strike left. You only have one more strike left. Yeah, you can only each make one more mistake right now.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Brian, you do have more points. Scott will get a chance to, after you. But four answers left on the board. right there's a couple of my god but i'm just i'm just afraid to not be in the tops because the things that i like are not necessarily yeah look they're they're real and they're fantastic terry hatcher that's right well you know more about this than you let on there terry hatcher by the way celebrating her 57th birthday today happy birthday terry hatcher are they real and they're spectacular are they still they're still real okay yeah yeah yeah uh that episode by
Starting point is 00:33:28 the way is called the implant. Lane goes to the gym to find out if they are real in fact. Show me the implant. Oh, man. I know. That one number 19.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Wow. Did not make the top 10. Should probably be higher. This should be higher. Four answers still left on the board. All right. I really like the massage lady. It's what's her name? from Bestin Show and she's Stifler's mom. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:34:02 good. Jennifer Coolidge. Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge. It's an amazing episode that's just like all over the place and I think that would be on my list but now I don't know if anyone else would. But yeah, I like that one. Okay, all right. That one is called The Note. Jerry
Starting point is 00:34:18 George and Lynn get free massage therapy and after a session with his masseuse George questions his sexuality. Wait, I think that's a different episode. Hold on. Oh, really? Yeah, the one I'm thinking of is the one where Jerry's dating Jennifer Coolidge. That's her name, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah, Jennifer Coolidge. And she's got the table and she brings it upstairs and Jerry's trying to make her give him a massage. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just so I don't either steal or either. This way I don't take a bad answer or possibly cheat a good answer. Right. So that one's called the masseuse.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah. Oh, that makes sense. Look at that. You almost named it. You almost, you did. And that one, hold me. on is let me see if okay here we go uh lane meets a man whose name is the same as a notorious serial killer uh jerry king get his masseuse girlfriend played by jennifer coolidge to give a massage
Starting point is 00:35:09 george is obsessed when uh jerry's girlfriend doesn't like him oh yeah that's it that's it i love the b stories and c stories sometimes are the best ones uh all right show me the masseuse oh all right who has the points congratulations going out to monica Did Monica get the one with the Elaine dancing? I can't remember anything else in that episode. That one's called The Little Kicks, and it was number, where is it? It was another one where I was surprised it wasn't higher, but I think it's just there weren't that many. Yeah, it was number 53 in the list.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Right. Little Kicks. Was there an episode where someone dies looking envelopes or something? Yeah. It's his fiancé. George's fiancé. Yeah. By the way, I spent, let me just say, I spent an hour this morning with people's descriptions, right,
Starting point is 00:36:06 because all they had to do was put in a description of what the episode or quote, I had to go and look up all of these titles to figure out which episode people were talking about. And by the way, if you don't, we talked about them earlier in the thing, if you don't like Seinfeld, if you're just not a fan, it never worked for you, you found it too, whatever, don't watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's all of that turned up to 10. Same DNA. Yeah, same DNA, but cranked up to the highest level, and you'll hate it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But if you're Seinfeld curious, these first 10 episodes are great ones to start with, for sure. All right, let's get to these last ones. Number six, show me, number six. The sea was angry that day, my friends. Oh, I love that. The marine biologist, where George pretends to be a marine biologist and saves a whale, takes a golf ball out of its blowhole. It was Kramer's golf ball out of his ball hole. That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, pretty dumb. Show me number eight. Chicken roasters. I was going to be chicken roosters. It's a great one. Yes. Jerry dreams of Newman slathered with barbecue sauce or batter dipped or deep fried or whatever. It's a great episode.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Show me number nine. The Frogger. Frogger. I almost said the Frogger didn't think anyone like that. It's just like such a moment. It's a great one. It's a great. It's a great one.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And it's got one of the best sight gags of any Steinfeld episode with George crossing the street with his Frogger mission. Yeah, it's really good. It's just a minute of it. It's Peter Stormair's in that. That's extra points for me. He's great. Love him. For sure.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And then finally, number 10, the opposite. This is the one where George decides he's going to do everything that he wouldn't do. Like he, uh, it's the. opposite. Yeah, because Jerry, Jerry keeps coming out even. It frustrates that. And Elaine goes the other way. She's having, like, the most of her stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:03 She starts seeing bad luck after she buys a box of juji fruits. George ends up getting his, getting a girlfriend, a job with the Yankees, moving out of his parents' house. Meanwhile, Kramer goes on Regis and Kathy Lee to promote his coffee table book. That's right. That's an amazing moment, by the way, when they do that. Because he was actually on set there, and there's talk that it was most of It was improvved, and so at the end, he, like, spits water all over.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So, yes, exactly. So congratulations, and there you go. And, by the way, again, they're non-Sinfeldians or Seinfeldians who don't hate the show and just haven't watched it. There's your 10. Start with those 10. They're like the Seinfeld greatest hits. Yeah. And by the way, from a critical standpoint, the show is considered the greatest sitcom of all time.
Starting point is 00:38:51 So, you know, it's not just us with some weird secret love for a show that no one else liked. That thing was universally loved. Only 21 people out of 5773 said they hated it. So that's, you know. Good odds. Yeah, that's whatever. Less than 5%. Yeah, not everyone's going to like everything.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But we know this for sure. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. The boy, the points work here is you win. I may have gotten four, three of the five of the, or whatever many I got, three. Yeah. But you won. So how do you feel about that, Monica? You feel pretty good?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah, I'm like super excited. Yeah, I can tell that jersey count away. Well, sweet. Well, we know your email address, but you can still send an email to Brian Coverville at gmail.com, and he will hook you up with your codes. I'll just send it to her via Discord because you have a Discord chat thing. Yeah, that would be fun. DJ Stengel says Seinfeld is only nine seasons, but it's always sunny in Philadelphia is 15 seasons and still going.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Just saying, yeah, longevity does not make a... And the Simpsons have been on for 40 years, it seems like. That's right. Yeah, exactly. yeah i don't know i like i like it does not make you show great i like philadelphia a lot uh always sunny's great but uh i worry about it's staying a little too long just a little yeah too long sometimes it's good to get out yeah look who's talking had two sequels yeah it shouldn't have dude freaking curb your enthusiasm but blade run only had one oh what was longevity curb curb is still uh curb is 11 seasons yeah this is the 11th season of curb your enthusiasm yeah this is crazy Two more seasons than Seinfeld ever went. All right. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Congratulations, Monica. You deserve it. You're the winner, the chicken dinner. Yes. Hey, Brian. Well done. Hey, Scott. You were part of the team that won today.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Do you have anything to say for your behavior? Absolutely. I love Seinfeld. And now I've got to go watch the whole series again, even though I have to do it on the down low because, because Audra hates it. Oh, see, she's a... You're going to watch that? She's a hater.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Why does she hate it? Is she giving you reasons? Yeah, like I said, no, no. I mean, I know why. Anything that's mean-spirited, she doesn't care for. Yeah. And that is a valid argument. If you hate people who are, who are mean...
Starting point is 00:41:14 Right, right. I don't know. They're mean in a different way, though. It's not like... Yeah. No, they're very... They're very centric because it's all about... They're the most selfish people.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They're all single people. None of them have kids. They're all very selfish. They're in their 30s. And it's just if you don't like that. It's not like the dicks on, it's always sunny in Philadelphia, which I also love that show.
Starting point is 00:41:37 But they're really mean. That shows me. They're really mean. Yeah. Okay. I get that. I mean, and that's what I'm saying about curb.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Curb is like mean plus 50. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But also really funny. All right. Well done, Brian. It's good to hang out with you as always. We'll be together again.
Starting point is 00:41:54 this weekend for Film Sack when we're watching. I don't remember. Oh, better watch out. Better watch out. That's the movie. Christmas, uh, Christmas gore fest. Not really gore fest, but a Christmas horror film that takes a turn. I hope there's some gore. I like gore in my Christmas horror movies. Well, there's some gore. Yeah, Al Gore. He's in there.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, yes. Brian Dunaway, go eat a goat. We'll see you later, by. Wow. Damn. He likes goats. Can I tell you? Yeah, he does. Claire, we are watching Jingle all the way that is next week. Yeah, a week after. So jingle all the way happening for sure. All right. Hey, look at this. We've got time for this.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Why, it's the news, and it's brought to you by. By Chris Wrenshaw, who tells bad jokes about board games and what's new in the hobby on his podcast show, Boards and Swords. Check it out by visiting Boards.com. Spell at the end, because the internet still doesn't. doesn't like the Emper Sand character. No, it does not. It doesn't work on your URL. He's a patron of the show and has a cool thing he's doing, so I wanted to give him some props. Yeah. U.S. customs officials are in the news.
Starting point is 00:43:07 They do all sorts of seizing. You know, they seize things and stuff. They're Seizers. They're Seizers. They're little Seasers. Dirty little Caesars. They've seized nearly 4,000 bongs at the D.C. airport. uh that's pretty bad it's a lot of bongs brian at dc not not out of colorado wow no in fact well let's
Starting point is 00:43:32 i have colorado stories today but but this one oddly it was not one u.s customs and border protection official seized the shipment of almost 4,000 bongs at washington dulles airport uh the 56,000 shipment arrived in china on october 2nd manifested as gravity pipes gravity pipes gravity pipes I've heard them called water pipes back in the day. I've never heard a gravity pipe in my life. So it's either fake or great. I don't know which.
Starting point is 00:44:03 The people there or the people in the customs office said they had confirmed that the glass bongs violated U.S. laws on the importion of drug paraphernalia, unquote. The bongs were headed to an address in Los Angeles County, California. Someone in L.A. getting their bong on.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Officer Screen International passengers and cargo for illicit narcotics, unreported currency, weapons, counterfeit consumer goods, prohibited agriculture, and other illicit products that could potentially harm American public, the American public, rather, U.S. businesses and our nation's safety and vitality
Starting point is 00:44:37 is said in the release. Our vitality. Although... Ongs will kill the world. Weeds legal in California, so... I don't know. Is this only a problem to tell? It should have been out a different way to get them there, yes.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, it's only a problem until it gets there, I guess. I don't know. Well, I mean, how... Actually, that is a question, because you can smoke non-illegal substances in a bong. So just owning a bong, having a bomb in your suitcase shouldn't be an issue, right? Hmm. No, you say that. Yeah, why is that a... I mean, I guess if it came in a giant lump sum, they make it a different decision than if it was just a lady with a bong in her bag.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah. Bong bag? Oh, importation. Okay, so it's the importation of drug paraphernalia. It's interesting. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I could see that. Bing bong. Bing bong. Anyway, let's see. There was also, oh, while inspecting the couple's carry-on bag, which was part of this deal, officers discovered an envelope concealed behind the carry-on bag zipper liner. Officers verify the couple's combination or combined currency of $23,641. They seized the currency for violating U.S. currency reporting laws and then released a couple with a $641 or $641 as humanitarian relief.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So they're like, here, go get a burger, you know. Yeah, yeah. You can get a decent burger with $641. Oh, hell yeah. It's a lot less than the $23,641 they started with. Hell, hell, yeah. Whoops. I'm going to jump to this weird story about Colorado.
Starting point is 00:46:22 All right. Okay. All right. Colorado connection, everybody. We got a story about Colorado where Brian lives. Colorado connection. Here it is. Colorado leads,
Starting point is 00:46:30 I don't know if you're going to be happy about this. Colorado leads the nation and dog poo complaints. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, uh, listen, what states aren't complaining about dog poo? Right.
Starting point is 00:46:42 What state is perfectly happy with dog poo? Seems like all of them should be upset about dog poo. Yeah. Shouldn't just be, uh, Colorado, but they're leading the nation. It's outlaw.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Only outlaws will dog poo. There you go. Say that five times fast. Colorado ranks in the nation as the most dog poo complaints, according to a recent study. The study by Protect My Paws, P-A-W-S. A company that helps consumers find pet insurance analyzed tweets with a number of poop-related keywords. For example, dog poo and stepped in poo to reveal the dog poop capital of America. Colorado leads the nation with 15.4 tweets annually per 100,000 population.
Starting point is 00:47:23 It doesn't seem like that much. No, it's not a lot. So we have about 6 million people here. So 100,000 is 160th, so 60 times 15 tweets like, all right, sure. That's a little nuts. By the way, the state with the least amount is Delaware at 1.5. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, Delaware.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. Seattle came in second. Delaware loves dog poo I hear. Oh, they love it. They just eat it. They love it. can't get enough of it let's see here
Starting point is 00:47:56 Delaware or no I'm sorry Seattle came in second um oh weird oh do we have a there is a list of the states where does Utah that's I'm trying to find out
Starting point is 00:48:08 oh this is in the Denver Post yeah it was a local rag yes it goes without saying to say that I've been to the Denver Post yeah it's I feel like it
Starting point is 00:48:18 yeah that seems for sure let's see it doesn't say No, it doesn't say... Oh, no, here we go. Dog poopiest in the country. You're not a subscriber, so you can't read this article. Utah, 3.9 in Utah.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Okay. So what number does that put you out? It puts us at... It doesn't say... It doesn't say. What I think is funny about that is that, I may be included in this study. I think I did a dog poop complaint in one of you. I'm sure you've...
Starting point is 00:48:49 I have no doubt that you... have used dog poo in a tweet at least yeah seems seems about right yeah other people like iowa wisconsin connecticut they're all in threes kentucky we're all we're all about the same poopie wonderful all right we're going to take a break when we come back tom merritt will be here for a little tech time after that a fun discussion of recommendals with randy so stick around brian's going to play a song though before we get there so what do you got for us i totally am and this is some fun you know I've used the term before like
Starting point is 00:49:25 shoegazy pop this is very shoegazy pop there's a little bit of a church's kind of feel to this although churches fans will say well okay yeah in initial sound maybe churches but maybe not
Starting point is 00:49:40 this is the title track from the band Mercurial I'm sorry Magdalena Bay It's a lot different than Aquarius. The band is Magdalena Bay Mercurial World is the song and the brand new album that's out via Luminell Recordings. These guys are an L.A. duo
Starting point is 00:49:56 and, God, this is such a fun song, fun sound to it. Here is Mercurial World by Magdalena Bay. Walk me down to the earth when the storms right in front of us. Tell me we'll make it work. You're as sure as a star.
Starting point is 00:50:21 on top of ice because it's the way that you're right steady and sound when I feel so crazy the way that you're right how could I doubt the obvious we're spinning around so buried down living in the arbitrarian world you'll be around always Let me down, living in the carrieve. Worried I'll make you worse But you're teaching me how to trust in us Because it's the way that we are Steady and strong And it's all so crazy
Starting point is 00:51:37 The way that we are So how could I doubt the obvious It's been around So therein down Living in the arm Recurial world You'll be half round Always holding me down
Starting point is 00:51:56 Living in the Recurial Oh Oh Oh Yeah I see I'm
Starting point is 00:52:08 I see Oh Oh You're going to be able to be. I'm sorry. You know, I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I'm going to I'm going to I'm going living in an emirial world living in a mercurial world living in an amicurial world living in an amicurial world the world.
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Starting point is 00:55:29 Chuck finally talked me into using heroin. The morning stream. Am I still here? Hello. And we've made our triumphant return, and that song again was, please. That song again is Magdalena Bay, and there's new song, Mercurial World, which is the title track of their brand new album. That sounds great. Also, AV. Tech John found a Scott Johnson tweet from 2016 where you take somebody's thread and say if you smear a little dog poo on it, then it's a comment thread.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Oh, oh, all right. That would have probably been counted. Yeah? That would have counted in the thing. Because it has the words dog poo in it. So, all right. That makes sense to me. But 2016, it wouldn't have counted towards the current study. Right. Whatever previous study was going on, I'm in that one for sure. All right. Check this out, y'all. With the computer, as with any tool, the concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt. He joins us today as he does each and every Wednesday from his palatial studios in Los Angeles, California. Tom Merritt, welcome back to the show. How the heck are you?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Dropping the yalls. Yeah, I got the yalls going. Kind of shit me down in my Southern Illinois accent. My wife's from the south. I have to just think of these things. It's just the way it is. Yeah, well, I mean, my studio may be palatial, Scott, but my car's roached and the dog's sad. Oh, well, there's a country song in there somehow. Hey, Tom Merritt joins us, as he always does, talks about tech.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I love it, because how else are we going to talk about tech on this show unless Tom tells us about it? So, what's- It's impossible. What's bubbling or boiling out there right now? One of my favorite country artists, Ming Chi Kuo, also happens to be one of my favorite Apple analysts. More people are probably familiar with his Apple analysis than his country music writing skills, including himself. But he has a report out, and he has a very good track record at this stuff. Quo has good sources in the supply chain and in Apple.
Starting point is 00:57:44 He's very sober in his analysis. I know a lot of you guys love the flashy YouTubers out there that tell you what you want to hear, but they're usually wrong. And they're right just often enough to make you go, Yeah, but he was right that one time. Quo's right like 90% of the time. Anyway, I digress. Quo says we're getting an AirPods 2 update, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:06 a second version of the AirPods 2 in Q4, 2022. Probably not that shocking. It's been since 2019 since we had the AirPods Pro. These will have a better chip and they'll have more that beats fit design maybe, is the rumor. Sure. Maybe include some fitness sensors, stuff like that. So that's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But the big one is that we're getting the augmented reality, or rather mixed reality. These would be both augmented and virtual reality glasses that Apple's been working on for years might finally come out in 2022. Now, he doesn't put a quarter on it, so we don't know when. But they are expected to be around 300 to 400 grams, which is just a little more than half what the Quest 2 is. Quest 2 is 500 grams. So these are light. These are lighter anyway. I don't know if I'd call them light still, but they're lighter.
Starting point is 00:58:58 My guess is they might have a gogglesy sort of since they're going to be augmented reality, too. They might sort of look like a ski headset or something like that. Anyway, they're apparently already working on the follow-up device, according to quo, to come in 2024. But the mixed reality headset race will heat up if Apple gets into it, just like any other product category. Yeah, that seems likely to me. I'm really curious about what that thing would look like after all this time. Because we've been hearing about them working on that since, what, 2010 or something? Like forever ago, they were like, we're, there's rumors of secret VR AR thing going on an Apple.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And then nothing, nothing, nothing. And then suddenly this, like you said, reputable reporter saying, I might get to see him next year. He's talked about them working on it. Conventional wisdom is they've got maybe 1,000 people working on this. And I think as an average consumer, we get caught up into like, well, just show it to me already. And you think about the things you work on personally. Do you show everyone, every moment that you're working on them? Or do you wait until you're done and then go show the family and friends?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Like, ah, I finished it. Well, you wait until you're done. That's the same with Apple. Just because they're taking a while to do it means that they are waiting until they think it's right. And that's another thing Apple does, is they don't ship right away. They have a goal they want to reach. And I'm going to guess, Scott, that that goal includes design. They want this to be something people look at and go, oh, yeah, I want to wear that.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It might even be the primary goal. Like the primary goal is to figure out how to marry the technology that we're seeing happen with Quest and other devices and get to a place where all of that makes sense in a thing you'd actually want to put on your head in more, more situations than people currently put a quest on their head as an example. I'm sure of that. That seems like the number one thing. I don't know what any of this means to, you know, what this might say about an ecosystem. You know, one of the things that's undeniable is Apple's got a gargantuan ecosystem with the App Store.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And they could leverage that, I suppose, in AR and VR pretty good. quickly, but it's not like they've got a bunch of stuff in there now just waiting to get launch. You know what I mean? So it seems like there's some of that to consider. Yeah, I don't know. I'm really curious about it, though. I want to see what they're doing. I want the person who's been following this for 30 years in me wants to say, well, what Apple will do is dominate the device side, right? They'll put out the device and then whatever platforms work best with the device, Whether that's meta or somebody else will win based on how well it works with Apple's device. But the person who actually works on this every day says, shut up, old man.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Apple is pivoting to services. So the device is likely to be a way to get you into a service. Would Apple come up with its own Metaverse-like platform for this? Could see that. I still say that no one company will. It needs to come from everywhere. Like, the whole point of a metaverse is that everywhere is connecting. It cannot be that, well, we're all, I'm, hey, it's the metaverse with walls around it that are called Google or Apple or anyone else.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Like, it has to be... If you don't make your VR game to support this platform, you're going to lose kind of thing. Well, not just that, like, true metaverse, like the way it's been talked about. We're talking about, you know, let's just say, they'll give an example. I'm playing Halo with a friend. We're doing co-op. and in a true metaverse Brian should be able to walk into scene
Starting point is 01:02:55 into camera wearing his World of Warcraft gear because that's the idea it's crossover, it's connectivity everyone's everywhere right? So you get your brain out of just just app or just program or just game and then pull way out. That means standards and that means standards that everybody has
Starting point is 01:03:14 to adhere to or build or you know I don't know there are plenty of examples in tech where there our standards. So I just think that's one where it's going to have to happen. But before that happens, there'll be a gold rush like we've never seen before. And it's going to be annoying as hell. That's my prediction. It's going to be really annoying because they're all going to be, we've got it. We've got it. We've got it. Everyone's going to say they've got this metaverse when really they're forgetting the whole definition of metaverse. So we'll see. If Apple does
Starting point is 01:03:43 this right, they'll be able to have a corner that you can pay to get. pay Apple to get into, you know, Apple land, the Apple metropolis in the Metaverse. And if you have an Apple device, you've got a free pass or whatever or an Apple One subscription. But it will interoperate and you'll be able to walk out of it with your stuff, you know, the way you can walk around in the world with an iPhone. It's not like they don't let you into the Samsung store if you got an iPhone in your pocket. Metaverse should work like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:13 No, that's a great example. That's exactly what I'm trying to aim at here is that that that sort of mentality needs to be part of this or else what are we doing what are we actually doing if we're just creating us what was PlayStation 3 had that um virtual kind of second life thing they had in there what was that oh right what was that called i forgot about that yeah home was it was it was it p.s home or p.s i think it was home yeah yeah that thing you know was never ever going to be anything other than a PlayStation thing and it ended it lived and died in the PS3 era, so it was never going to go anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:04:52 But I walked into it exactly once and looked around it and I'm like, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, like that kind of stuff is like, those are interesting because they tickle the edge of what could be or or these ideas, second life, same thing. It's like, well, yeah, what could happen
Starting point is 01:05:08 here. But until they're all happening interoperably, there's no real metaverse going on. You know, just like into the real life. If I walk in, like Tom says, walk into a Samsung store with an iPhone, no problem do that in the game doesn't disappear no it doesn't like it doesn't like preclude you from coming in there just like that back to the future photo yeah yeah we'll see basically we're talking about the
Starting point is 01:05:31 internet but but right bigger and and and and and just like on the internet or in real life there are places where only certain people can go in right like you you you can't walk into someone else's house without their permission you you can't go into certain clubs unless you pay the fee to get in. And that'll happen in the Metaverse. We're not saying we won't. You know, to play Halo, you might have to have your Halo character on instead of your Warcraft character, but there might be a lobby where everybody can mix and mingle with whatever character they happen to be inhabiting at the time. Yeah. People keep talking about the Oasis from the, uh, the, uh, ready player one is being kind of an example of this, right? Where exactly. Yeah. 100% except even they were limited by
Starting point is 01:06:14 their own IP ownership, you know? So they couldn't, they couldn't bring in, uh, I mean, they made some deal so they got like Overwatch characters and some other stuff in there that weren't necessarily owned by Warner Brothers, but most of the stuff in that thing were all Warner Brothers own properties. The book was much more wide open because the book didn't
Starting point is 01:06:33 have to care about it. Right, exactly. But yeah, books are... I think they mean more the world that's depicted in the film rather than the movie and what they were able to show. Yeah, yeah. The book definitely gets it right, I think. Yeah. All right, well, do you think there's a future where we're all worshipping a
Starting point is 01:06:49 statue of the author of that book. We all think he's like, oh, the great progenitor of the Metaverse, this was him with his book Ready Player 1. Yeah, but there's also a statue of Neil Stevenson, right, right next to him. Yeah, that's right. And it's like, ah, the forefathers, the great predictors. Maybe William Gibson.
Starting point is 01:07:05 We better put William Gibson up there, too. Yeah. And the Holy Trinity of the Metaverse. Yeah. And Mark Zuckerberg's got his own statue that he's like, but what about me? I named my company, meta. Come on.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I bought a company that. a headset, come on. The sculptor doesn't want to make his hair. All right. Hey, well, we've done it. We've discussed this, and that means that that's probably a good indication of some of what we'll talk about later on the Daily Tech News show today at 230 Mountain Time. It's Wednesday, so I'll be on. Very exciting. You know, Wednesdays are great, because Wednesdays are the days that I can mark some big moments in my life in the last 30 days. Wednesday was the day my back went out. Wednesday was the day I caught a horrible head cold. And today is another Wednesday where I still have said head cold. It's probably a sinus infection.
Starting point is 01:07:49 It's great. Wednesdays are great. They're great. Yeah. Well, honestly, I could be negative and look at this as me causing the headache. Or I could say, thank goodness I'm here to help relieve. I like that better. Yeah, I like that better. That's a better attitude to have in general. I'm kind of hoping for the second one, but, you know, your mileage may vary. It may. Anything else happening that you want folks to know about before we go? Free time newsletter is back. You might not have realized it was gone. But I took a couple weeks off from it.
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Starting point is 01:09:08 Well, excellent, excellent stuff. Let's move forward. Never backward. Always forward. With recommendals. I tried to add the word recommend. to our call. That's not correct. It is Randy Jordan. There we go. All right. Adding them to the call. We got, we got our clips. We got our stuff. That's going to be fun. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Everything we could possibly need. Everything you want more. Hey, look who it is. It's our old pal Randy Deluxe joining us for recommendals today. Hi, Randy. Aloha. Good morning. Happy Wednesday to you. Listen to you. I'm going to turn this thing around. We're going to make. this happy Wednesday. Okay. Happy Wednesdays the greatest days of the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yes, exactly. I've been doing a little research for you while, uh, while you're recording this episode of the show. Um, I, I pulled the top sitcoms of all time according to various authorities. Yeah. Uh, and I just want you to know, uh, so Rolling Stone has the Simpsons and at number one and cheers at number two. Indie Wire has cheers at number one and news radio at number two.
Starting point is 01:10:17 two. That shocked me. Yeah. I mean, it's a great show, but... Stacker has Rick and Morty at number one and the office at number two. And then IMDB, which probably the most like the Democratic of these, has friends
Starting point is 01:10:33 at number one and the office at number two. So we got the office in there a couple of times, cheers in there a couple times. I saw, I went to some other like minor things and I kept finding Rick and Morty over and over. I'm like, this is like a, this is a recent bias.
Starting point is 01:10:49 It must be. Oh, it had to be, right? For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, you know, I like Rick and Morty a lot, but... Yeah, I mean, all those shows that you listed, all the ones you named are great, great shows that I love, so... Yeah, Friends is a... Friends for
Starting point is 01:11:03 me is a little up and down, but yeah, Friends belongs there, I think. My recent rewatcher friends, I enjoyed tremendously. You also reminded me of this Twitter thread, I think it was a Twitter thread. I cannot find it. I read this amazing thing. few years ago. I don't know. Maybe it was a blog post somewhere, but I think it was a Twitter
Starting point is 01:11:21 thread from a glassblower in the United States. There's this glassblower in the United States who was saying, if you guys had any idea how profitable this business is, everyone would be going into glass blowing. And he was like, he was like for starters, the international community is really, really dead set against us shipping this stuff into other countries. He's like, our Our two big profit centers are adult toys, you know, glass that you can serve for yourself, and bongs. Oh, blowing. I mean, it's right there in the name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And making a bong is not easy, right? So, like, it's a advanced glass blowing technique. And apparently the whole world is stuck in the 1950s and terrified to ship these things into other countries. Like, we're all afraid, I don't know, that we're going to go to hell or something. Sure. So, anyway, it was just this amazing piece where this glass blower was like, you know, if I make a really great whiskey glass or like a teacup or something, I can sell it for a dollar. But if I make a great bong, I can sell that thing for $40 or, you know, like that's just, his entire business had moved over to butt plugs and bongs. Butt plugs and bongs.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Oh my gosh. That's a great business name. He should register that with the state of California. Butt plugs and bonds. You know, I actually did. We took a one-day glassblowing course. And it was kind of fun, actually. Did you guys make bongs or butt plugs?
Starting point is 01:12:48 We made neither. We made Christmas ornaments and water, plant waterers. Okay. All right. Yeah. A butt bong. A butt bong. I mean, you could probably, I wouldn't recommend using either of them as a butt plug
Starting point is 01:13:01 because they're very thin walled and you'd end up with some shards. Sure, sure. Now, someone in the chat mentioned Tommy Chong getting jail time. That was before California passed its recreational weed line. Oh, yeah, that was like 25 years ago. Well before. Way before. So that would not happen today.
Starting point is 01:13:18 He'd be fine. He'd probably is doing it just fine. He's probably fine now. You know, and you went check on Tommy Chong. Go give him a look. Let's make sure he's okay. I will bet you, I have no evidence of this, but I will bet you Tommy Chong is deep into crypto.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I just have this feeling. Really? I don't know why that's funny, but yeah, maybe there's something there. All right. Well, let's get to it. We got recommendals to make. We watch streaming services all the time. We pull stuff out that we like and we tell each other about it here on
Starting point is 01:13:43 the show. Hopefully you at home, walk away with a few good ideas your own selves. We always start with Brian. Brian, you got any set up for this first clip here? Yes, this is a series. I had no idea about this series until I think either somebody recommended it to me or like Paste magazine described it as one of the best comedy series recent years. And I wholeheartedly agree. All right. And this is the very first, these are the opening seconds, like the opening minute of the show. All right, here we go. His home-made music video, I want to marry you at recess, has racked
Starting point is 01:14:19 up 22 million views in just three days. Some in the music industry are already calling him the next big white kid. And that's why we are so lucky to have him in the studio with us today for his first ever live TV interview. Please welcome Chase Dreams and his mother, Pat.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Hi, guys. Good to have you with us today. Thank you so much for having us. Well, of course. So walk us through this, okay? Did you always want to be a famous singer? I actually never really sing before. I just made this one video for fun, and I guess lots of people liked it.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yeah, they sure did. So, Mom, does this kind of talent run in the family? You have other kids, right? Yes, his older brother, Carrie, is an actor here in New York City. He's really good. Wow, what kind of work does he do? Hi, I'm Carrie Dubick,
Starting point is 01:15:05 and I'm reading for the role of Man at Party Who Smells Fart. Great party. Thank you. Okay, great. Let's go again. But this time, I think the fart is just bigger and fatter. I don't know what this is.
Starting point is 01:15:26 What is this? This is a show called The Other Two. This is on HBO Max. And is the story of a couple of older siblings to a kid who has just achieved massive, like, YouTube sensationism, kind of like a little mixed. between Justin Bieber and Aaron Paul or something like that. And it's, um, this is one of the songs, you know, or one of those shows, you know how I say like, well, you know, give it three or four episodes. And if you don't find it funny, then it's not for you. If you don't laugh in the first episode of this, then I'll, I'll go out and say the show is
Starting point is 01:16:03 probably not for you. Uh, Tina are trying to remember the last time we laughed out loud as much as we did to this show. And I think it was like the first couple seasons. of modern family or life in pieces or um the office things like all the all the shows you mentioned a minute ago randy um this is uh it is so so funny that's molly shannon you're hearing in this episode or in that clip i just played she plays the mom oh good that means she's in it i was afraid she was like one of the interviewers but uh that's great i love her she's in a lot that that clip by the way I mean, it's got Kathy Lee and Hoda and stuff. It is the first few seconds of the show just meant to kind of set up who this kid is.
Starting point is 01:16:48 So don't base whether you watch the show on whether Kathy Lee and Hoda are in there. They're in there for five seconds. And same with Will Forte, right? Like, this is not a Will Forte show. There is no Will Forte in this show at all. Oh, I thought you just said that we heard the voice of Will Forte. No, Molly Shannon. Molly Shannon.
Starting point is 01:17:06 But also, Ken Marino is in this from Party Down. Ken Marino steals every single scene he's in and he plays the kind of this kid's agent manager See the blonde guy
Starting point is 01:17:19 from Party Down? The blonde kind of douchey guy Yes The older guy Is part of the group Who leaves for a while And yeah
Starting point is 01:17:28 Ken Marino is Fantastic He's hilarious in this thing Who else is in this thing? Richard Kind is Carrie's agent, the older brother who you heard as
Starting point is 01:17:42 man at party who smells fart. Wanda Sykes is an executive from the record label. Great, great supporting cast. The two main people are Helene York and Drew Tarver who've done a few things that
Starting point is 01:17:57 bit parts and stuff here and there. But more like on the comedy circuit than as actors who've been in really big things. So they're of newcomers, which is great, actually. It really works. And this is a Chris Kelly joint, right?
Starting point is 01:18:13 This is... Yeah, this is written by Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider, who are two former headwriters for SNL. Right. They were, like, co-headwriters for the entire... Forty-second season. Yeah, Generation X Switch, like the... Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:27 The whole teens, whatever we're calling that decade, they were headwriters at Saturday Night Live. And I think Saturday Night Live has been really good for the last 10 years. So I'm looking forward to this. And these guys, you know, it's funny, the comedy doesn't ever feel like an S&L skit. And you occasionally see people like Beck Bennett makes an appearance. Oh, I can't remember who's the really tall woman who's on there right now. Really tall.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Really tall woman, SNL actress. Shoot, I cannot remember her. I can't remember the actress's name. I don't know. Not Cicely Strong, not... I never watched that show anymore. I never remember it. Yeah, anyway.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So, the occasional people still make an appearance from the S&L thing. But this never feels like a skit. It is easily one of the funniest things that I've seen in the past 10 years on as far as a sitcom. Awesome. Really well done. HBO, the first season, was on Comedy Central, but it's become a, quote-unquote, HBO Max original. So it is, it's now there and it totally belongs there.
Starting point is 01:19:50 It fits perfectly with the HBO kind of thing. I just got to say, Hulu, you blew it, not getting Comedy Central. I just, I can't get, like, that's, that's, like, Hulu is like nine-tenths of the perfect, uh, uh, current television streaming service. and they just didn't get Comedy Central. How did you miss that opportunity? Warner Brothers owns it all now, right? And they own HBO.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I think that's why. I don't think. But there's a lot of these like carve-outs all over streaming, you know? Yeah. And Hulu, they came so close. I just, yeah. Yeah. Hulu got, you know, plenty of comedy central stuff shows up there, but, yeah, they're not owned by that.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I would say, I would say a tiny amount of Comedy Central shows up there. And it's not, it's not enough. they should have gotten the whole thing. Yeah. Heidi Gardner, by the way, is the actress who I was trying to remember from SNL. She makes an appearance in one episode, but anyway, just kind of support the, yeah, the occasional S&L alum or actor. Oh, I like her. She's, I like her.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yeah. I couldn't think of the name. The name did not work, but now I know who that is. She's, uh, every, every boxer's girlfriend, uh, when she makes her appearances on a weekend update. Yeah, she's awesome. And Molly Shannon isn't too much? No, no, it's just the right Molly Shannon. It's not the, I'm 50, kind of like it's not her over the top.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And this is a character that could be played over the top, and she's not. She plays it relatively straight. She's proud of all of her kids, but the youngest one just happens to be the cash cow right now. Oh, that's good. I, you know, I always were. You know, you know, these comedic character actors, right? Eddie, they could just come in and ruin a show. Yep, nope, she's great.
Starting point is 01:21:36 She's awesome. I have nothing bad to say about Molly Shannon. I love her. Great guest appearances by Kevin Wilson, or not Kevin Wilson. Thomas Wilson. What's the guy? Watchman Wilson, last name, Patrick Wilson.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Patrick Wilson. And Fargo gets discussed in there, and they're in Justin Thoreau's house. So there's a lot of talk of the leftovers. I mean, it's a very knowing show. it's uh anyway so like how they do it on just watch the first episode if you're not hooked then it's it's not going to be for you but this this show this series um hits the ground running and is consistent right from the get go so if you if you like that first episode you'll like the rest of it nice all right show number two or movie i don't know which this is a this is a movie this is a 2018
Starting point is 01:22:25 movie that um i'd only heard about via the uh weird title card and weird name of the show, name of the movie that appeared in Hulu. Until again, I got a recommendation from Paste magazine saying the best movie you've never seen in the past two, three years. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:46 I'm... I like this movie, but boy, is it not going to be for everyone. I'll just say it right now. That's a nice, it's a good warning. Let's see what it is. What are the odds? What are the odds
Starting point is 01:22:59 that we would find ourselves one apple short of a bushel and you would unknowingly bring me a solution to all of the world's problems. Who plays the drums? The rest of you ready to jam? Because if I had to guess, I would say that we are
Starting point is 01:23:18 15, maybe 20 minutes away from pure magic exploding into this Roman silly me. I lost a drummer on the way to grandmother's house. Here I have. I thought we'd have to scrap paper and go home. And what should happen instead?
Starting point is 01:23:35 Three witches come to my rescue. I'm grassy, Cassie. This is Nottie O.C. And Roxy Rotten. She's alive with the party, and we'd be honored. Cut the shit. Come on, you're making me feel like I'm 100 years old. But God damn, I just really feel a connection to you, babes.
Starting point is 01:23:55 You know, you feel that, Maury? Yeah, back, I feel it. And that's what I'm talking about. Howard. My Goodman, I'm ready to party. What is this? That is Elizabeth Moss. Handmaid's Tale.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Handmaid's Tale and Mad Men, Elizabeth Moss, with a movie called Her Smell. Don't ask me why it's called Her Smell, because that doesn't come up as any reference in the thing. This is a movie about the lead singer of a punk rock band, a female rock band. And I'd say not even passingly inspired, but wholeheartedly inspired by Courtney Love. Also, the director, the writer, said that Axel Rose was an influence as well. But this is basically a story of this lead singer played by Elizabeth Moss, named Becky, who is kind of bipolar, kind of drugged up, but also is kind of a horrible person for the first half of the movie.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And she is very self-centered. I mean, she is the, you know, all the things we're talking about with, it's always Sunday in Philadelphia and Seinfeld, this woman embodies all of that. And she's a train wreck that if you, if those kind of characters, even with the promise of some kind of payoff some kind of payoff and a revelation at the end
Starting point is 01:25:35 even if that kind of character really pisses you off you probably are not going to want to watch this movie however if those kinds of things you can put up with because you want to see how she gets her redemption or how she has her redemption it's absolutely worth it
Starting point is 01:25:49 the acting is the top thing here though Elizabeth Moss is excellent um her husband or ex-husband is played by dan stevens oh i love dan stevens he's great um eric stoles is uh her manager um virginia madsen is in everything is that why is she in everything she is so crazy in everything these days so i see kara de villa giganeggi is in this yeah i like her cara delavine oh okay um she plays so you heard her a little bit there the um Another band, kind of a young up-and-coming punk band, is inspired by Elizabeth Moss's band. And they actually come to the studio to record, and that's who Elizabeth Moss was talking to in that scene. And not rivalry, but the integration of these characters. Oh, yeah, the woman, if you've seen Glow, the woman wrestler who always wore the skins and was kind of
Starting point is 01:26:55 of like the outcast animal woman. Yeah, yeah. She's the drummer in Elizabeth Moss's band, and she's really good. What's her name? Gail Rankin, right? I think Gayle Rankin, that sounds right. Yeah, I'm looking at the credits. I think that's her.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Yes, Sheila the She-Wolf on Glow. Amber Hurd is also in this. Anyway, it's amazingly well-acted if you, you know, if you can put up with a character who you kind of aren't really. rooting for and kind of hating for the first part. I know it's a tough sell, right, to be, you know, say, watch this movie that features this horrible character, but it's how well Elizabeth Moss plays this character and the redemption that follows that you watch for.
Starting point is 01:27:43 This thing's got like an 80-something, 84% on Rotten Tomatoes. I have a question here. So, like, every couple weeks on the Tadpool Facebook group, someone comes long and is like, ugh, shit's creek. And everybody else says, no, you just have to watch it for a while. And then it shifts into its long game.
Starting point is 01:28:05 But you have to watch the short game at the beginning in order to really appreciate the shift. And then, you know, people who haven't watched it are like, nah, nah, it's too much. You're asking for like, you're asking for like seven hours of my life kind of grinding before
Starting point is 01:28:21 you then turn around and deliver another 50 hours of spectacular. stuff. Yeah. And, and, like, I'm, you know, reading the reviews for the, for her smell. I'm like, it looks like, it looks like that only sort of compressed into a couple of hours. And into a couple hours. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Yeah. If you, um, that's a great, that's a great comparison because, um, yeah, you are, you are not meant to appreciate. You're not meant to like this character. They're at no point during the first half of the movie. are you like yeah but you know she's she's got some good qualities and and there you know she has one good quality throughout the first half of the film which is that she's devoted to her daughter but she's just horrible to everybody else around her um there is that is the payoff though
Starting point is 01:29:10 is seeing her um her redemption at the end and and that's not a spoiler because you kind of know it's coming and i probably shouldn't have i probably shouldn't have asked you to compare it to Schitt's Creek, because it's like, there's no way this movie reaches those heights, right? Yeah, no, it's not, listen, I'd recommend Schitt's Creek over over this. I recommend this, but if you're weighing between the two, Schitt's Creek is a much better payoff, but I happen to like comedies. A couple of the things about this, the music is really well done. There's kind of a low grumble you hear in parts, which feels like you're backstage at a concert and you're hearing the band that's currently on stage performing, but it is connected and tied
Starting point is 01:29:56 to the action that's going on backstage with Elizabeth Moss's character, which is really, really clever. Also, it's told like that Steve Jobs movie, I think the one that was just called Jobs, because there were like eight movies that all came out, the one where Fast Bender plays Steve Jobs. Or is that icon? Hold on. That's, shit. What's the one with the...
Starting point is 01:30:19 that 70 show played the oh geez that was jobs and then the one yeah kutcher was jobs okay this one that was called icon was that icon i thought that book was icon and this was sort of based on oh maybe i don't know fast bender anyway he put he put some alien DNA with a bunch of baby embryos and now we don't have we don't know what happened to david no that's not this whole different video go ahead the um but the way that story was told the one with fast bender was you you you experienced four or five keynotes, Steve Jobs' keynotes, to tell the story. And that's the way this one is told, too. You don't get, you know, day after day after day kind of story with this character.
Starting point is 01:31:03 You get five vignettes with the development of this character. So you're in a scene for 20 minutes, and then you're into the next scene for about 20 minutes, and then the next scene for about 20 minutes. And I just looked up. Elizabeth Moss is credited as performing seven different tracks on the soundtrack. Dude, she learned, she, for three months before this film, she learned, had taught herself how to play the guitar. And she does a great cover of Brian Adams, um, uh, baby roll that I want when I'm not. Heaven. Heaven, thank you. Could not remember the song. Heaven by Brian Adams. She plays it solo on the piano in a single take, sings it. And it's just amazing. It's like, wow, Elizabeth Moss, look at you. And, um,
Starting point is 01:31:47 Scientology would work, man. Look what it was a metal thing. Anyway, it's called her smell. It's on Hulu. I do recommend it, and you'll know immediately if it's for you in the first five minutes of that show. All right. I'm kind of curious now, so I'll have to put that on this. I found it was compelling, and Elizabeth Moss, after seeing this, I feel like she should
Starting point is 01:32:12 have at least gotten a nomination in 2018 because of her acting in this was so good. Yeah. Well, all right, then. Let's play this one I watched. Now, I did a little bit of a cheat. I rented this. Okay. Okay. So it wasn't streaming. I mean, it streamed, but I paid for it. I paid $4.99 or $3.99 or whatever it was to watch the damn thing. Because I don't know if you guys knew this, but while we were doing the Ellen Ripley Quadrilogy on Film Sack, I also behind the scenes was watching things like Prometheus and other little. things around the alien's universe.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I just, I don't know why. I just got in the mood. I didn't pick up on that either. I still stand by both that movie and the one I saw, which I'll play a clip for now. We have suffered a monumental tragedy, and I'm going to do the best that I can to live up to Jacob's exam,
Starting point is 01:33:11 is my example as your captain. But he will be. sorely missed and i'm grateful in advance for your uh support all right so that's basically a clip you know how to keep these clips short scott i'm a short clip guy like i edited out silence and stuff to kind of keep mine at about a minute but boy that is you you are the master i like to keep them nice and short uh alien covenant is the movie and it came out in 2017 it's pretty recent uh these this and prometheus are of course the prequelie uh ridley scott directed alien films that he came back to do. And I know there's a lot of controversy.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Some people feel very strongly about Prometheus being bad. I think Prometheus is awesome and I really like Covenant as well. I think that the Alien series as being told right now in a modern way in these prequels is subject to some of the worst expectation problems there ever was in film history. I think it's almost impossible for somebody to see these with the expectations they have about what an alien movie is to not come away going, wait a minute, that wasn't what I expected. I know that that's not what a lot of people expect. But if you watch those movies again and watch them with an open mind
Starting point is 01:34:32 and just let the story be told, they're very freaking cool. They have amazing sci-fi stuff going on in these movies, and I love them both. My comparison is always to Event Horizon. Like, if you went into Event Horizon with Alien Expectations, it's going to be a four, right? But because you don't, it's like a seven. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:52 No, I get it. Like, they're, these movies, I even put higher than that. In fact, in particular, I think Alien Covenant really ramps things up in a way that starts to converge what the expectations for an aliens franchise film are and what, you know, what Ridley Scott did with Prometheus, which was. much more kind of science fiction minus aliens. Like, there's very little aliens, aliens. Like, if people want to see these things come out with their weird middle mouth and shoot it through somebody's head, well, then go watch the old aliens. There are three great movies for that.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Those great movies for that. There's four, in fact. Yeah. And there's even though they do it again in those AVP movies. If that's really what you're looking for, go go do that. If you really want that. But what I want is artistry and one of the greatest directors working ever. and I want to see what he does
Starting point is 01:35:44 and he does I think amazing things with tone and visuals and the acting's always good I love this movie I love Covenant unapologetically I like it and I'm very excited for what is tentatively being called
Starting point is 01:36:00 David which is the third and final of these three that is supposedly he's working on now which will finish this arc which turned out to be the Michael Fastbender arc and I really want to know where they take it from here.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I mean, we know where things ultimately end up, but this movie ramps up things like the violence and the scares are definitely a lot more here. It feels closer to the DNA of the original alien film than any of them, I think. And I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but I really like Danny McBride's performance in this. Of course, yeah, no, you're not, yeah, that's... He's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:36:40 He is great. in that. And he's playing a very non-Danny McBride. Like there's a little tiny bit of Danny McBride in there. He's bounden down Danny McBride, but not enough to distract you from it. Yeah, and I like, I don't know, I liked his character. Tennessee's just a great character. Billy Cruttup's
Starting point is 01:36:55 great. So Dr. Manhattan's in this. He could have just turned blue and saved everybody, I guess, but he didn't do it. Let's see who else. There's a whole bunch of really interesting characters. Famously, he's not like a standout or anything, but that Jesse Smolet dude who's currently under trial for something.
Starting point is 01:37:11 thing? Yeah. Smolett, how ever you say his name? He's in it. Um, and... Is it a Rooney or no, Rooney Morrow's in the other one, right? Rooney's in the first one, yeah. Although there's an appearance in this one, but if you haven't seen either, I don't want to spoil a how. But yeah, something worth seeing. Uh, the real, the real standout, though, I think is Catherine Waterson, who plays Daniels. Uh, she's, she's, Tina from the Fantastic Beast's movie. Yes. Movies, movies, movies. Movies, right. Um, um, She's an inherent vice. A few other things.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Something about her. I don't know what it is. She's very compelling, super interesting actress and worth watching. Anyway, I just love that stuff. Unapologetically, I don't care if anyone doesn't like him or likes him or it doesn't matter to me. You're missing the point. You're missing a chance to see Ridley Scott make paintings, basically. And he's an amazing director, and I want to see everything he ever does before he dies.
Starting point is 01:38:09 All right. So there's mine. Randy, clip. Oh, and I rented that on Prime. I think I got it on Amazon Prime, but it's everywhere. Yeah, it's like a $3.99 Apple TV, Amazon Prime. Yeah, just cheap. If you have, for some reason, if you have an FX Now subscription, then you can watch it as part of that.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Oh, yeah, the FX app has it. You're right. I see it here now. I don't have that. Yeah, you have to have to be subscribed to it. So through a group service like Sling or something like that. I will say the most aggressively unsettling alien immersion scene since the original alien. Like you can't, there's nothing that really tops that scene in the canteena in the first movie
Starting point is 01:38:52 when the chestburster happens. But the first revelation of the, because in this movie, this is, you know, we're still in the proto stage of where this stuff comes from. And it's like this airborne, you know, pathogen kind of. And the first birthing of that through that dude's spine. mine in the med bay. Unbelievably unsettling. It's very good. It's very good.
Starting point is 01:39:15 So anyway, Covenant's rad. Cool. You all should watch it. I just want to answer Tom Norm in the chat. Yes, you should watch the first Fantastic Beasts movie. And then if you love it, watch the second. The second is a huge downfall from the grandness of the first. The first Fantastic Beasts movie has the most beautiful ending I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Seriously. I just like I think like it's worth watching it just to get to the end because it's so beautiful and moving. So, uh, yeah. So, um, the other day, a couple weeks ago, I troll, I don't troll. I follow and read, uh, the movies subreddit. And someone asked on the movie subreddit, what's a legendary film that you feel like no one ever has seen or talks about? And I have an answer to that. and I found it on HBO Max and so I watched it and it's just amazing that this movie by a legendary writer-director and starring legendary actors is just never talked about nobody ever sees this thing so it's a two-minute clip sorry it's a bit long it's the two leads just talking and they're like two of the greatest actors that ever sat and had a conversation and character in my opinion
Starting point is 01:40:36 opinion. So, go. Here we go. Oh, what a view. I'm not who you think I am. No. Walter Fidge, lousy rider, lonely freak. Murderer.
Starting point is 01:40:53 No. When I was seven years old, my grandmother took me to Portland. We were walking along. These two guys ran by, he snatched her purse, and I had a police officer came to our hotel to ask questions. He stood the whole time. Uniform looked brand new. Shoes. Badge were polished. It's like a
Starting point is 01:41:14 soldier. I have great respect for your profession. That's why I write about it. I even wanted to become a cop after I finished high school. I just couldn't pass all the tests. Well, you should have tried out for internal affairs. They'd have taken you. What do you want for me, Vince? After Kay died, I knew that everyone would think that I meant to do it. So I cleaned the body up. the whole trace of evidence connected to me. Under pressure, you don't always see the wood for the trees. You for one should have figured that one out by now. You know, when I heard that they had brought somebody from Ellie,
Starting point is 01:41:47 and I panicked. I wasn't worried about the locals. I knew they'd connect me to Kay eventually. I could handle them. They never look in the eyes of a killer. K. You know that. It's not guilt. I never meant to do it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It's like awareness. You'd see it right away, wouldn't you? You're trying to impress me, Vince? Because you got the wrong guy. Killing that girl made you feel special. But you're not? You're the same distorted, pathetic freak I've been dealing with for 30 years. You know how many of you I caught with your pants down?
Starting point is 01:42:32 I never touched her like that. You wanted to? Now you wish you had. Now that we've heard, you know, a third of the film. Yeah. It's just, it's just like, it's just unbelievable, the mood, then the tone of this movie. This is Insomnia by Christopher Nolan. I shouldn't have said written by, this was actually a remake.
Starting point is 01:42:59 It was written by a couple of Norwegian writers for a film that came about five years before this. um but uh nolan christopher nolan just takes this thing and and drags it to incredible heights it's a it's a it's a straight up uh uh cop and and villain story although you are going to start this movie thinking that uh it's just an alpuccino movie and like robin williams doesn't appear for a while when and then when he finally uh hits the the whole movie changes and it becomes this very, very interesting, like dueling character studies. Like Christopher Nolan, at least in his early career, was always trying to wrap you up into some kind of mental feeling, right? Like memento is about making you feel confused.
Starting point is 01:43:50 You as the viewer really don't know what the hell is going on. And insomnia, it's called insomnia, it makes you tired. Like it really, because it's appropriate. Yeah, it takes our, it takes our main character from Los Angeles to the northern part of Alaska in the summer. And he can't sleep with the sun up. And it's like the portrayal of that is just brutal. And Al Pacino is freaking amazing. Like you're going to, you're going to forget that Al Pacino is Al Pacino.
Starting point is 01:44:22 You're like, he becomes this character who is afflicted with insomnia. Wow, Paul Dooley is in this. I forgot. I love him. I love Paul Dooley. Yeah, that guy, dude, born in 28, still making movies and TV in 2022. So I just watched A Mighty Wind on HBO Max and he's one of the main streets. I love Paul Dooley.
Starting point is 01:44:42 So Pacino plays the greatest investigator from the Los Angeles area and he's brought all the way to Alaska to try to solve a heinous crime. And when he gets there, there's a police department. And they're like, you know, they're ready for his help. And the police department is Paul Dooley as the chief. And then Martin Donovan is with Al Pacino, but Hillary Swank and Nikki Kat are like locals who are work in this case. And it's just, I just love, Hillary Swank is supposed to be like the new detective, like the person who's like just. Just like she was the new karate kid. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:45:19 And her, she is just, oh, she's just perfectly. She was always so good. I don't understand how she went from, you know, two Oscars and a bunch of performances like, this one to not really having much of a career anymore. Oh, I don't know. I've seen many recent things from her. I really liked. I just don't think she's getting credit for him. Yeah, she was in that cool Netflix sci-fi series that only got one season. I thought she was great in that. And she was in that robot one, the mother one. Oh, yeah, mother, yeah. Yeah, I thought she was awesome in that. She's great. Nobody is take, no, no, she is great. Nobody's
Starting point is 01:45:51 arguing that. And the main thing is, like, this is Christopher Nolan down, down to the, you know, the bones of Christopher Nolan and it's something you might like see his recent work and go oh wait how did we ever think this guy was you know the best this will this will remind you why we thought this guy was the best and I don't understand why more people haven't seen it why it doesn't hit these discussions because it's just it's just a it's a perfect film it's got that you know the it is a little bit mumbly you might have noticed from the the clip this is this is Christopher Nolan's starting to ask his actors to mumble and whisper and, you know, that sucks. But it's hitting, it's hitting way above its weight class, this movie.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Yeah, it's, I, this is the one Nolan movie. I think of all his, I don't think this, yeah, this is the only movie he's made. Oh, no, it's not true. I still haven't seen Dunkirk. I know. I know. I know. I'll see it.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I'll get to it, but I've not seen this. How do the rewatch of Waterworld go? Yeah. this I haven't seen this or Dunkirk so I need to rectify that yeah it's you really should dunkirk is is a actually the exception to the Christopher Nolan is ruining movies with sound rule he he uses sound in this movie so brilliantly like I hope that you're able to watch dunkirk like with five speakers around you that kind of thing I think it'll probably be something similar to that.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I'll give it a good listen. I'll give it a good proper listen. Awesome. Randy is still there? Do we lose you? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just... Everyone is real quiet. Anyway, Insomnia is streaming on HBO Max. I feel like
Starting point is 01:47:38 as people who watch streaming things, we've all kind of shifted from Netflix to HBO Max over the last couple years. Yeah, it's true. It's almost like we exhausted Netflix. I don't know. Like we had enough. We did it. We got to the end. We finished Netflix.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Yeah. And HBO Max though, man, they just got everything recently. Like, if you look at our upcoming list for film sec, I have like of the next 10 things, like eight of them are streaming on HBOMath. Yeah. Max is, they do, they definitely have taken the crown as far as
Starting point is 01:48:12 like, um, where the movies are, where Netflix has kind of let a lot of those licenses go and just focuses so much on original content. There's plenty of, you know, plenty of movies there. But like if you're looking for film sack material, between Prime and HBO Max, they're kind of owning it right now, that kind of stuff. Older films or whatever. Well, there you go. All three recommendations from each, well, all three of our recommendations, more than three total recommendations, can be found via Randy's
Starting point is 01:48:41 Twitter account at Randy Deluxe. You can also see those on our retweeted account over there at the morning stream as well. Or morning stream. I guess it is. Hey, that's going to do it. Hey, Randy, anything else you want to lay on us before I let you go? Just, you better watch out. Like, we're, uh, we're going to, we're going to see what happens. I am, I am going into this thing completely blind. I don't know who made it, who's in it. Yeah, good. There you go. We're going to watch. This is a good movie. Better watch out is a good movie to go in completely, like, unaware of the film. So good, good. Nice. Well, we'll talk about it on Saturday. I'm all in. We'll see you then. Real quick, there's been a lively conversation about Christopher Nolan in here. And it got me to thinking, hey, why don't more people come show up live? If you come live, you can be a part of this conversation. Yeah. So we record live every morning, Monday through Thursday at 9 a.m. Mountain Time at frogpants. TV. So get in here and make that happen. All right. It's mashup time. It's a bonus mashup. This one's called shit. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:49:47 It is not called shit. No, definitely. not. A trumpet, it's called? Trumpet. Yes. And this is a Scott pronounces things badly episode. So sweet. We'll see how this goes. Enjoy it. A new type of carrivena carnivorous plant. Megan Maloney, Malani, rather, Malaney, Malani. Patrick Heaton. Patrick Heaton. Patricia Heaton is what I meant. There's no Patrick. It's Patricia. There's no Patrick Eat. Is this Christi, Crystal, Billy Crystal.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Crily Bistle? Crily Bistel. Yeah, old Crilly Bistel. Still rocking it. Traffic light was installed at a crossroad in the Scara Scotta Mucci Macho district. Uh-huh. Accurate. Polittle or a polittle.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Poland initially picked 23 athletes. Man, that's what one would be. All right. On a roll here. Kentuckworth. Shit. Tom's tech time. Recommentals and more.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Not shit. Here are the rappers with Lil in their name. Lil Wayne. Lil Uzi-Vert. Lil Uzi-Vert. My least favorite, Lil Peep. Lil Yachti. Lil Yachti. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Like Yacht. Because it's fancy and expensive. That stuffed bear has a twinkie in its... Shit. I did it. I did it again. Why is Twinkie in there? Yeah, what's a Simun-Lu-Bagu or whatever's name is?
Starting point is 01:51:14 I can't say his last name. You're probably better off saying Shung-Ti. coin centers Nijir, Nirajewi. Yeah, I think it's agriwal. What about that hell was in I? Black Sabbath's front man,
Starting point is 01:51:32 long-time spouse, Sharon Stone. Black Sabbath's not together anymore. What do you? Well, that's a dumb line. Right? I'm more curious about the fact that you see Sharon Osborney, but you say Sharon Stone. Did I say Sharon Stone?
Starting point is 01:51:45 You said Sharon Stone. What the hell? What the hell, CVS? What hell, CVS? What do you stand for? Contrary super vagina? Is that what that stands for? That would be CSV. That's your comma-separated values. Here, I'm going to try trumpet ball without my eyes pose. Okay, all right. T-R-U-M-P-U-T. Trumpet.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Oh, so close. Didn't I get it? T-R-U-M-P-U-T. P-E-T. A trompute. Tromput. Did you play the trumpet in high school? The trumpet. Oh, my Lord. That's horrendous. That's bad.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Oh, that's hilarious. Wow. Thanks a lot, Jamie. We appreciate it. TMS smashups, Jamie, of course. At it again. We get another bonus coming up tomorrow, plus our end of year stuff coming. Yeah. Oh. I'm both excited and anxious at the same time about our end of year stuff. I feel it, man. I feel it. Yeah. That's it for today's show. Brought to you by You Find Folks at Home. Patreon.com slash TMS means many things, stuff in the mail, bonus content every day, other things. Also, if you're a patron, go read the latest post, it's a chance for you to get your cool little side projects mentioned in our news sponsor segment.
Starting point is 01:53:05 We want to do that for you, people. But anyway, if you want to have a show that's completely commercial free and awesome and bonus-y and just covered in goodness, why patreon.com slash TMS is the way to do it. okay Brian I've been holding that in for a while why don't we do a thing what are we doing a song can you play a song a song a song yes so you remember when I played shojo's birthday song on on Monday and her birthday is really today
Starting point is 01:53:31 well Teresa Ozoa okay a Krogate's oh had this one for Monday and I'm playing it today so something you know swap whatever swap as you need to well let's play this again for all of you. What's not a birthday?
Starting point is 01:53:49 What is it? What is it? This is an anniversary. Oh, shit. All the buttons are going off. Oh, my gosh. I don't have a good anniversary. You, you.
Starting point is 01:53:58 There we go. Nice. I fixed it for you. She says, Hi, Scotch and Bourbon. I like that we're getting a lot of Scotch and bourbons lately. I just wish we would receive some Scotch and bourbon. Please play this cover or any cover by Jacob Collier,
Starting point is 01:54:12 my current artist obsession. Any time around December 6th, 2021. I'd like to wish my soulmate, Larry Ebiner, a happy 35th anniversary. Here's to even more love, laughter, and long walks in our continuing journey together. Love Teresa. Wow, that's awesome. Congratulations. That is awesome. We love Rogue Tess. Always look forward to seeing her at Nurtaculars and other events, and I can't wait to see her again. This is a cover by Jacob Collier. an artist that I was unfamiliar with until she recommended him.
Starting point is 01:54:49 But he's put out a bunch of albums, some covers, but a lot of originals. Sometimes it's the Acapella thing. Sometimes it's with instrumentation. This one happens to be with instrumentation. This is from an album called DeJessey from 2019, Volume 2, DeJesse. You know, I liked when Drake was on DeJesse High. Yeah, this is a big deal. Such a good actor on that show.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Anyway, here is their cover of The Beatles. here comes the sun. We'll see you guys tomorrow. it's been a long cold lonely winter little darling it feels like years since it's been here he comes the sun it comes the sun and I say oh it's all right Little darling, the smile's returning to the faces. Little darling, it seems like years since it's been here. Here comes the sun, it comes the sun and I say, it's all right?
Starting point is 01:56:44 tiny, turn and turn and time. Everybody's in love to Come Come Come Go Go Come
Starting point is 01:57:23 Come Come Come Go I'm The sky I'm down
Starting point is 01:57:31 and you could Go Oh Come Little darling I feel the ice is slowly melting melting
Starting point is 01:58:05 been clear It comes the sun It comes the sun And I see now It's all right It's all right It's all right It's all right
Starting point is 01:58:24 It's all right Sun, sun, sun, here we come. Don't you know we're going out in the sun, sun, sun, here we come. Oh, we're going going out in the sun, sun, sun, here we come. Oh, we're going to party out in the sun, sun, sun, sun, here we go. Yeah. This is sad, sun, here we come.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Oh, oh, and it's a song. Son, son, son, son, here we go. Frog, Pants, there it comes. Saan, son, son, here we come. Here we come. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com.
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