The Morning Stream - TMS 2221: Zendaya Mondatta

Episode Date: December 28, 2021

Tobey had his Peter Parker out. It Stays Runny In The Can. old man Johnson goes to the movies. I Liked Him As An Actor, Until I Saw His Penis! I Don't Like Shower Honeeeeeeeeeeeey! The minions shall i...nherit the food court. Covered In A Thin Layer Of Buttery Greeze. Basement Level Drug Users. It's Nearly The End Of This Dumb Year. And the toilet had a turd. We all had the same gasp and You Know When. Stopping The Popcorn Sweats! Some kinda boogery deal. Making Tex-Mechs with Bill. 300 points of failure with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, Toby had his Peter Parker out. It stays runny in the can. Old Man Johnson goes to the movies. I liked him as an actor. Until I saw his penis. I don't like shower, honey! And the minions shall inherit the food court. Covered in a thin layer of buttery grease.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Basement-level drug users. It's nearly the end of this dumb year. And the toilet had a turd. We all had the same gasp, and you know when. Stopping the popcorn sweats. Some kind of boogery deal. Making tech's mess. X with Bill.
Starting point is 00:00:32 300 points of failure with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. I'm 33. I'm an entrepreneurial attorney, and I'm currently involved in cleaning up toxic waste. I consider myself a new age person, but I don't like channeling or faith healing. I like an attractive woman, someone who might look like Christy Brinkley or Jacqueline Smith, who's health conscious, and also at home, barefoot in blue jeans, or in an evening dress. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Bar soap. This is the morning stream. No butt touching. Morning, everybody. Welcome back to TMS or to it for the first time. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, it's Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:01:27 December 28th, 2021. It is nearly the end of this dumb year. And I'm Scott Johnson, and that's Brian. Hi, Brian. Good morning. Yes. Hello. How are you?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Fine. I'm all right. My back hurts. You know, here's the problem with throwing your back out a couple of weeks ago or whatever it's been now, three weeks. Generally on the mend, but still little twinges here and there. And sometimes you sleep on it wrong. And then you get up and it's like, oh, that hurts all day.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So right now I'm just like a little e. And that means I've got to sit in the dental chair later while they put my my crown back on with my back hurting. With your back hurting. Can they, they can adjust that dental chair to where you're like comfortable, right? Like they can, you can say, listen, I'm having some back problems. Could you, uh, could you make this part a little higher, make this other part a little bit lower, that sort of thing?
Starting point is 00:02:16 The girl will go, we make this little higher, make that little lower, she'll say, and then she'll walk out of the room. Just kidding, they're nice, they're nice. What, does Tina work for your dentist office? She's been working on the side. You wonder why her commute so long. I know she's gone for days at a time. I didn't realize that was a lie. I'm weird how that works out.
Starting point is 00:02:34 But, yeah, I don't know. I may ask him if there's a way because it gets, those are uncomfortable. And my legs hang off of them because I'm tall. So, yeah, looking forward to that. That'll be real fun. Plus, it's snowed last night real hard. We got ice everywhere. It's like 13 degrees today.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Everything's bad on the freeway. So I don't even know how that's going to go. We might. They're saying we might, as we're saying there's a chance. We might get snow Friday is the current state of things. All right. We've had one little dinky teeny-weeney snowfall, which was gone the next day. And it's all on the other side of the mountains and in the mountains.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Like skiing right now, fantastic. Yeah, never been better. But everything outside the mountains for us dries a bone. Yeah, if you ski, now's the time. Yeah. Get up there. Make it happen. Get your chains on or however you get your vehicle up there and get her done.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Anyway, so I got to tell you what happened, okay? Yeah, oh, man. All right, let's do it. Let's just rip the Band-Aid off, Scott. All right. The last movie I saw in a movie theater before the pandemic was October or so of 2019. It was toward the end of the year. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So it wasn't even like close to the beginning of 2020. It was like late, mid-late 2019. Already not like a super constant regular movie theater kind of guy at the stage. You're not Scott Johnson moviegoer. That title is held by yours truly. Yes, that's correct. I love movies, but I watch most of them at home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And that wasn't always true. There was a time in my life where I might see a movie once or twice a week, in fact, but it doesn't happen anymore. Anyway, so it's been a while. That movie, by the way, was Sonic, the movie. The last, prior to yesterday, the last movie you saw theaters was Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, we're almost sequel time for that thing. Yeah, I would have given up theaters as well. It was all right.
Starting point is 00:04:30 For what it was, it was all right. You know what? I never saw it, so I shouldn't, I shouldn't bitch about it. For a video game movie, it's probably the best video game movie made, but you know how low that bar is. So, you know, it was okay. But anyway, so, you know, I'm kind of okay with this. And when the pandemic hit, I'm like, well, I don't need to go in there for a while. And honestly, nothing's really gotten me too jazz to go to a theater until Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And I thought, well, you know what? If I'm going to do it, let's do it with that, all right? And I'm going to pick a time of day where I know there are going to be less people and it's going to be just less of a hassle. And we'll just go in there and I'll take my friend Darren. I'll pay for his ticket and call it his Christmas gift and, you know, kill a couple of birds won stone kind of deal. And so we brought Darren, his wife, and Kim went with us as well. And we had this movie, this movie thing at 3.30 yesterday. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Okay. All right, good. Yeah, early like a weekday. People are, some people are working. Yeah, a little less on the price of the ticket, all that stuff, you know, just kind of hedging our bets. And it hadn't snowed yet. That would happen during the movie. And it was gnarly.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So anyway, we go there and we get to the theater. And I realize, oh, things have changed here. Again, I haven't been, this is the district megaplex, which is right down the street from us. We've been to multiple nerdtaculars there. That was a really nice theater in the day, okay? This is a AMC or Regal or... No, local-owned joint. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's the car dealership dude ownership. Yeah, old Larry Miller, who died some years ago. It was his jam. And anyway, so there's like six or seven of these across the valley or something. And they've always been known for being, at least in the late 90s, they were a big deal because they were the first to bring reserve seating. They were the first to bring... great food. Yeah, all that stuff, right? Like, they were big, they were a big deal when they happened because nobody else was doing this. And it kind of forced everybody else in the Valley, including the AMC and Cinemarks and all them, to kind of follow suit. And now they're all kind of like that. Well, anyway, this place has deteriorated bad during the pandemic. Like, really bad. I was just there in 2019 and it was fine. I go in there now. Now, some of it is expected. Like, it used to be, you. two giant walls full of
Starting point is 00:06:58 food courty food. And as soon as you walk in, there's like these big places where you get a whole variety. Here's Mexican. Here's burgers. Here's blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's all just available to whoever.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And now one side is completely blocked off. And it's nothing but minion art over there for some reason. I don't know why. Because it's cheap. I guess. They still had that minion art from a couple years ago. A little freebies from the closed-down party city
Starting point is 00:07:25 next to the Spirit Halloween store. That is how it felt, yeah. So I walked in and went, oh, okay, well, that's fine. And so that also means a lot of the seating, the kind of cafeteria-style seating is gone. There's some, but it's not nearly what it used to be. And it's not super packed or anything. There's people there, but it's not super packed.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I thought they would have some kind of, I don't know what the policy is. I just assume there'd be some sort of mask policy, you know, distancing policy, whatever. there's not at all really oh my god yeah you uh the amc theater that t and i go to it's on the door in the front um uh we've heard the uh the employees say uh you got to pull your mask up sir you know to people walk in by us and stuff now that changes once the lights go down on the theater but um yeah they don't but in the lobby and everything they they are strict about now that's funny because
Starting point is 00:08:21 here there are signs that say these things yeah Nobody's enforcing anything, and including, that includes the employees. Now, the only employees I saw were about five teenagers who are all working popcorn stands. Oh, I could go into detail about the popcorn place. But anyway, popcorn stands, most of them had their masks, and I'm not kidding when I say this, on their forehead. They were up here. Okay. Yeah, up on their forehead.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Which is almost like the, it's almost like the FU of, uh, It's not even like under their chin or anything like that. They're just saying, no, I'm wearing my mask, boss. You told me wearing a mask. It's one thing to have it below your nose or something, whatever, I get it. But they're up on their foreheads, like, I don't know, stopping the popcorn sweats they're having. I don't know what's happening. So this is the first visual I get.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And here's the other thing I notice. Nobody's a manager. There's nothing. There's nobody in, there's no adults in this place. I mean, literally, it's Lord of the Flies in there. I'm at some point they're all paint their faces and pick who's going to kill Piggy. Like it's really, really like very Thunderdome and popcorn everywhere. And I don't just mean, you know, sometimes if it's busy, expect to see some on the counter and, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, right. Dude, the place may as well be carpeted in popcorn. Popcorn everywhere. Everything's layered. Everything was greasy everywhere like oil. They ran out of buckets. I don't know when, maybe days ago. go. So now they're giving you these, they have these paper white paper bags that are like lunch
Starting point is 00:09:58 bags, but a little taller. Yeah. Just white plain ones. Oh, I'm sure those are nice and quiet. Oh, my lord. Well, not only that, but they dump the popcorn in and the, and the, the oil or the, the butter just bleeds through all sides of the thing. Right. Right. So you put this thing in your lap and all of a sudden you've got, you know, your lap is as transparent as that paper bag. Oh, it was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. We couldn't, like, we got popcorn. We got popcorn because it came with the tickets. And I'm like, I kind of regret getting this. I'd rather just not have the popcorn. But we did and find whatever. We were in this line forever. Nobody in the line is practicing any kind of safe anything, except for one little family I saw who just seemed horrified by everything they were looking at. And I'm kind of just like, this is not. The vibe here is just bad. It's just bad. Now, we're not even in the theater yet. We haven't even passed the dude where we give him the ticket yet. So, fine, whatever, maybe the front. the front end of this place is just poorly managed, whatever, you know, it's a bad day. It's, we're in between holidays.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Who knows? I don't know. And I'm not judging these people, whatever. They, you know, whatever. We go to the guy. It's fine. Oh, even judging the, um, you can judge the staff. Oh, yeah, I can totally judge the staff.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But my, my point is like, once I get this popcorn, I'm in the thing and I'm done. I know what that's like, because I've been there a thousand times. I'm sure it's fine in there. Get up to the ticket dude. And it's this curly-haired, once again, some 15-year-old kid. maybe 16 I don't know and he says tickets you know you can maybe see your tickets
Starting point is 00:11:28 and Kim goes all right here you go and now what she did is she went there earlier in the day they have these kiosks and you buy your tickets on the kiosks if you want to ahead of time and on the kiosk you put in your credit card and you say your info and you do and you pick your seats on the screen
Starting point is 00:11:41 and then it poops out your tickets well this time it only and she thought oh well this is consolidated it only poops out one little card these days it used to poop out like a bunch of coupons your three tickets plus some you know popcorn ticket and all this other things. Now it just poops out the one,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and it does say, four seats, says the seat numbers, and says popcorn, one free popcorn or something on it. Yeah. Oh, interesting. So we get up to the guy, and he goes, ticket.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And he goes, tickets. And I'm like, oh, well, there's only a ticket, but whatever. We hand him the ticket. And he goes, oh, you got to go get in line to get this food. Oh, my God. And we went, I'm sorry, what?
Starting point is 00:12:18 And he goes, yeah, you got to be in line to get the food. And we said, well, no, we, this is the food we have the popcorn yeah we're holding the popcorn in our hands yeah in this terrible freaking one-ply garbage bag and he says well yeah but that's all this
Starting point is 00:12:33 ticket is for us for that I said well what do you mean it's all the machine gave us it shit out that and that's what it gave us that's what it is and he says yeah oh no this is not and he's starting to like panic and I'm like just let us in dude
Starting point is 00:12:48 and he did he finally just like he finally just like he finally just capitulated and went, I, it's, it was probably more trouble for him to find an adult in that building. You know what I mean? Right. Right. So he, so he lets us in, tears a little corner as if it mattered. We go in, we get our seats.
Starting point is 00:13:06 The seats are all covered in a thin layer of grease. Just buttery grease. And the floor, just popcorn everywhere. I don't know. Last time anybody swept, picked up any, I mean, it was clearly, it's been a while. I mean, it was all Fury Road Without the good. It was like the worst parts. Like, this place hasn't
Starting point is 00:13:27 been clean since Sonic. Yeah. No, it's how it felt. It really did feel that way. Movie starts. Normally you get previews. All we got was commercials. No previews. Lame. Fine. Whatever. Although that means Kim didn't have to avert
Starting point is 00:13:43 her eyes or cover her face or anything like that. No, she didn't have to do any of that. And then we start noticing that the people, we were hoping that there would be spaces between us, or not between us, but between our group. Yeah, between you guys and the next group. Yeah, and there wasn't. There's just people packed in, and they all, for some reason, bought tickets around where we were.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And so... So, one third of the theater was full, but you all were in the same third. Yeah, and of course, none of them have masks, and they've got their big loud bags like we do and everything else. So I'm thinking, boy, if the movie catches on fire and we have to leave, I wouldn't be surprised at this point. because this just feels broken. Everything about this experience is broken. It's really bad. The movie starts, then it's fine.
Starting point is 00:14:27 The film's fine. It's a digital surround, sound, nice, you know, that, none of that changed. And Spider-Man's great. I had a great time with it. It was a great movie. But the entire time, dude over here, just cranking on his bag. Guy on this side kept snorting. Kept going like that.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oh, God. Oh, yeah. Yeah, kept doing that. That was great. And some dude behind me was talking. When did my audience, the audience I'm usually with, when did they all move to Salt Lake City? Yeah. Yeah, no, I think that's, I think that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So, uh, so anyway, here's the, here's the bottom line. So the movie goes, and I have a question about, I have a thing about that in a second. No spoilers, chat. I promise. I really do promise. I'm not going to, I'm not going to skirt around any spoilers. Okay, I promise. Not even a Scott spoiler.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Just not a spoiler. Just not a spoiler. But, uh, we get to the end of the movie. We stick around for the Stinger. Yeah. There weren't two, right? Mid credits and end credits. Oh, I only saw the mid.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Somebody said, Darren said there weren't two, so I have to check it after or sometime today. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, so I see that. Oh, no. Oh, of all things to miss.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I know. That sounds like I miss something big. So I leave. This was probably your first Marvel movie, right? Yeah, it's first time. First time you've ever been to a Marvel. Well, for the record, I did say, wait, you guys, aren't there usually two?
Starting point is 00:15:47 And they're like, no, no, no, I heard there's only one. Are you sure? Because usually there's two. No, there's just the one. I'm like, all right. So we left. And everybody else in the place was leaving, too. So I thought, I felt like, oh, okay, I guess I didn't miss it. All right. So that's true. Yeah, that's true. The end stinger is, wasn't there a little bit extra beyond the trailer?
Starting point is 00:16:08 I want to say there was a little bit extra beyond the trailer. But you get a trailer for Dr. Strange in the multiverse. Oh, that makes sense because this seems like this was. But I thought there was something a little bit extra before that, but I guess that was. Mid-credits. I assume this just rolls into that the way things were going for him. Mid- Credits was a tiki bar, right? Yeah, Tiki bar with Butz's Beak.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, yeah. There's a human being in the tiki bar. Okay, there you go. That's all we need, yeah. So anyways, here's my, okay, so bad experience overall. And when we left, there was sleet and rain and snow and awful roads, and it was terrible getting home, and we only lived five minutes away, which is really annoying. That is not the theater's fault.
Starting point is 00:16:47 At least you can't blame that on the theater. Oh, I did forget to mention this. I go to leave and I got to pee. So I go to the bathroom. I have to, oh, the men's room is packed with human beings. So I didn't go in there. So I went into the family one, the changing one. There's nobody in there.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So I go in there. And I'm greeted with two dirty, almost sealed, but not quite sealed diapers, sitting on that little shelf that you put the baby on. Oh, no. Just left it there? Just left it there. Garbage can full and overflowing. No soap in the dispensable. the sink had some kind of booggery deal in there don't know what that was and the toilet had a turd
Starting point is 00:17:26 so let me tell you what i did i went to flush that turd it didn't go down which is probably why it's still there yeah so i peed on the turd and left that's what i did and i sinked a little water on my hands there was a towel there was a towel dispenser with some of those in there although it was super low next guy probably got screwed pulled that out did a little water came out said Kim give me some freaking hand sanitizer we're never coming to this movie theater again it was so bad
Starting point is 00:17:58 I would never I would never go to that that like that almost turns me off of the your go experience our MC our local AMC well you've got a nice theater right you've got a nice local AMC yeah there's adults present that work there yeah
Starting point is 00:18:14 this didn't feel like anybody was in charge of anything it feels like it was the wild Weston there is what it feels like. 100%. And it's really disconcerting for lots of reasons. The main reason is I used to rent that theater for events. And it was always well run. And they always had adults involved. And it was always extremely efficient and always good. Something happened. And I think what happened is obvious, obvious market pressure and conditions on movie theaters. I mean, it's not been easy for that industry for the last two years. That's number one. But number two, I'm sure that means cuts.
Starting point is 00:18:48 in funding and prices and just everything and pay. And I don't think any of those employees look like any of them were enjoying themselves at all. So they're probably hiring and rehiring and firing constantly. People, kids are probably staying there two weeks, giving their notice, getting replaced with another teenager. But it just made me go, all right, unless a brand new spanking, you know, awesome AMC theater or somebody with some freaking pride in their work
Starting point is 00:19:17 opens up somewhere around here. I think I'm good. I don't think I need to go anymore. Because it was just shit. All right, here's the question. Not the question. Well, it is a question. Well, let me throw something out really quick.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, go ahead. So, number one, that sucks. And I would feel exactly the same way you do. And I've said it before. I am all for day-and-date simultaneous theater and streaming releases, even if it comes with a cost,
Starting point is 00:19:45 because the movies I don't want to see any theater, great, I'll pay and stay home and watch them if I don't feel like I need the theater experience like I would with the big things like Dune and Spider-Man and stuff like that. Plus, your snorting guy and quite possibly your bag wrinkling guy probably would just stay home.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, they probably would. I mean, the chat room made a good point. They said they are laying off management. the biggest takeaway from this is that management gets laid off. Also, I just think it's because it's locally owned and run, it's just not, there's no, like, national imperatives. Yeah, there's just like a local yokel thing going, and Larry Miller died years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like, I don't think Larry, if he was alive, would probably not let this happen, is my guess. He'd be spinning in his grave, which is probably filled with popcorn somehow. Somehow there's popcorn in the grave. Yeah. It's about we can't, like, clip this audio out and just put it as a Yelp review. Yeah, no kidding. I'm kidding. And I don't want it. Look, this isn't Scott going, I'm full Karen here.
Starting point is 00:20:50 This isn't it. No, no. This is like, well, what is the point then? I'm just not going to go. Like, I will, if you go use a grocery store or you go to the, I don't know, this particular gas station or whatever, you expect whatever the bare minimum of value that you're supposed to get out of the thing. And if they don't give it, then I can't go there anymore. I'm just done with it. All right, here's my question. Okay, ask the question. You said that during the movie, there was an audible gasp in the thing. Yes, there was. There were actually two. There was one in ours as well, maybe two, maybe three.
Starting point is 00:21:21 But let me just ask you, was the first gasp having to do with a meeting in a kitchen? Yes. Okay, that's the one we gasped at as well. All right, that's all in the same way. Right, there was a second and third gasp when, you know when. Yeah, yeah. I assume those moments had gasps, for sure. But the first one...
Starting point is 00:21:44 And applause and all three. So gasps and applause. Yeah. Now I had no idea of any of these things. Yeah, which is great. I didn't either. And that is... None.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And I love that feeling. We were able to stay away from all of that stuff. Yeah. Stayed away from all the spoilers, had no idea. It's a great time. And I just want to say, once for the record, Zendaya is bona fide. awesome she's great and I think that she has like matured as a character through these movies
Starting point is 00:22:16 and now I can't imagine I cannot imagine the Tom Holland era of Spider-Man without her in it I think she's amazing in it so it's awesome you guys should see it don't see it at the district theater over here I'm doing you a favor by saying that I wish you guys had a so I wish you Number one, I wish you guys had an Alamo Draft House out there. I do too, man. And I wish AMC would take the Alamo Draft House model and even some of those videos they show before the movie that says, if you take your phone out during this movie, we're going to stick your balls in a vice and crank it until you see color. Nice.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Well, I had heard that they were struggling at the moment, but I hope that means not, I hope it just means general struggle. like a lot are doing during the pandemic and that they're going to be okay. But I heard Alamo was having a rough one. They were, but I think they're coming back. That'd be good. Oh, J.K. Grammer says he used to have two in Houston, now they only have one.
Starting point is 00:23:21 We had three. Two of them closed for a while, but they just came back. So I think we've got all three back open now, which is great. Oh, only other chats having a more extended conversation here. One other thing I would say about that movie you forget just how much of it hinges on Tom Holland's acting.
Starting point is 00:23:45 If he was bad at this, I don't think these three movies are all that great. No, no. It needs him to be as good as he is, and as good as he is, it elevates everything. He really is great. Yeah, he is our Peter Parker. He is certainly my Peter Parker. I mean, you know, you know, everyone from Nicholas Hammond to those other two guys to whoever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But Tom Holland is my Peter Parker. Yeah. He's my Peter Parker. I can tell you when... Even though he's British. What the hell? I can tell you when what's his name stopped being my Peter Parker? Toby McGuire.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You want to know when? When he came out dancing in Venom 3, Spider-Man 3? No, that should have been it. But what it really was was some article in some magazine where he showed his wiener. It was his full wiener. Oh, really? Yeah, him hanging out with like a bunch of other. Hollywood types of the era of the day of you know kind of 20 years ago what magazine are you
Starting point is 00:24:43 reading what was it hold on um was it it may not have been a was some highfalutin thing though wasn't something like trash was just the sony hack scott are you looking at uh fat mcgenin or whatever it was called no it was something else it wasn't playgirl he was just like laying around some room with his wiener out and uh and it was like shocking and nobody else was doing it And nobody else had their weeners out in the, in the image, but him. I don't know why I have this image or this memory. Someone's going to have to find it. Apparently those are the cider house rules.
Starting point is 00:25:15 This was, oh, was it that movie with DeCaprio and them? I don't remember now. There's a thing. The, not Aviator. No, he was definitely not that. Gatsby? Maybe. I don't know, but Toby McGuire has his wiener out in it and I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, all right. It was something about him, where you had to read. I really liked him as an actor. Until I saw his penis. I would go see all of his movies. Until I saw his penis. Yep. That's how it is.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He had his Peter Parker out. That is correct. All right. Let's move on. That's not just my spider sense that's tingling. I do look forward to that third movie hitting streaming and rentals and stuff because I think a lot of people who are waiting are really going to like it. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We got an email about that. Remember that Toyota key fob thing? We had to pay a subscription to use it. Yeah, the extra cost for remote starting your car. That's the one. Well, It's Too Scary, Rodin. He's in the Tadpool under the name. It's Too Scary. He says, about that Toyota key fob. Hey, Scott and Brian, I was listening to episode 2217, and the topic of the monthly subscription to use the remote startup came up. And I thought I could help convey what Toyota was thinking when they made this decision. At my particular location, the remote start kit for Toyota. of vehicles 2017 and below ran about $499, $499, not including installation, which was another $2 to $300. Okay, so that's what you used to pay if you wanted a remote. Right, if you wanted that function. Yeah, it'd be a one-time onto your car deal.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Like a lot of add-ons, that's one of those. It says the time we would see most, or at the time we'd see most of these kits were sold around the colder months, and a lot of customers were just not willing to pay for that or sorry, would not pay for that if they only use the car in the winter or fall. Sorry, they would only pay for it if they used it in the fall or winter. I cannot read today. Why did you read the words on the page instead of making it up your own? I'm just going to make my own story here.
Starting point is 00:27:18 So Toyota adopted the idea from other manufacturers that they would charge a small monthly fee for the service. The service was modeled to last the lifetime of ownership or on average 15 years. I didn't know that was the average life of ownership 15 years. Did you know that? I don't know that. I did not know that. So it says at the end of that 15 years, most customers on average would end up trading in the vehicle for a new model or leave the brand altogether. This means that you would have to repurchase that remote starter kit or just not have it on your new vehicle.
Starting point is 00:27:47 With the subscription model, you were able to move that feature over to the next vehicle you purchase, thus overall saving your average customer a substantial amount of money per vehicle. I hope this helps, and I hope this email didn't bounce around too much. There you go. That feels like a big if, right? Do you think that if you move from a Toyota to a Honda, that subscription model goes with it? Because isn't it a – I imagine the Remote Start Kit subscription thing you pay for Toyota. You pay to Toyota. You don't pay to a third party.
Starting point is 00:28:19 It would 100% be Toyota. You'd have to stay with Toyota to keep it. Right, exactly. So I don't think you're just moving to – Well, can you transfer my Remote Start subscription over to my new Honda? Yeah. I don't – suggesting that. I think he's saying you'd stay within the brand. I think that's just
Starting point is 00:28:35 if you stay within the brand. Yeah. So if you're buying an SUV after you had your Prius or something, you just, you know, you just re-up. I think that makes more sense from the business decision of it. It makes, it still kind of bugs me that the option here is either 500 bucks plus 200 bucks installation or pay a subscription and then stay within our ecosystem. I I mean, they're basically doing what phones do. It's like, hey, you want to keep using Apple music. You better stay here, baby, bear, whatever. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So I get that everybody wants in on that. I just kind of get annoyed when it starts to bleed into other parts of life and aren't just computer-based, but whatever, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, well, and it's illegal in a lot of places, too. I don't even think you can't do it in Colorado. It's called huffing, and you can't. I know that it's like, huffing, isn't that also the thing that you do with like a spray can or whipped cream aerosol, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:29:36 But, yeah, you are not allowed to leave your car running in your driveway unattended here in Colorado because of car theft. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought maybe it was an environmental thing. Oh, that's right, Kretz. So those are called Wippets, yeah. Whippets? What's a Wippet? That's when you huff the whipped cream aerosol out of a can of
Starting point is 00:29:56 a jiffy cream or whatever it's called. But wait, where does the cream go? Ready, ready whip. Do you get the cream, too, or what do you do? You get the, I think you get all the, you must get all the cream out of it first, and then huff the aerosol, I think. I don't know. Do we have any, like, basement-level drug users who are, like, sucking aerosol?
Starting point is 00:30:18 I want to know more about it. I don't understand it. Like, I understand huffing. I've heard of it before, like, paint cans and that kind of stuff. But, like, whip cream, which I had heard of, but it never, it never occurred to me that you either have to extract the cream. First, or is it all happened? Yes, otherwise, you're snorting whipped cream and the aerosol.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Are people just going into their mouth like you do with whipped cream? That's weird. All right. The cream is a casualty of the act. It stays runny in the can. Oh, okay. Interesting. Stays runny in the can?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Steens runny in the can. So do I, after Taco Bell. Oh, my lord. Well, there you go. It is runny in the can. Roney in the can. There's your, there's your update on Kifov. and remote starts, I guess.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And we had a few people right in. They all kind of said the same thing, but it makes sense to me. Thank you for that. It's too scary. If you have something you'd like to say to us, send us your emails to the morning stream at gmail.com. Here's a little programming note. We've got a weird schedule tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Brian's ascending. He's ascending. I've got a thing that we need to do, and it's requiring us to shift things a little bit. Yeah, and you, as a result, we have to start the show early and end it sort of early. So we're starting at 8 tomorrow, 8 a.m. Mountain, and we're going to go an hour. So, so for those of you in the Tadpool, live live listeners, come to the stream an hour early tomorrow, and that's going to be an hour long show. Yes, everybody at home, you'll just get, you'll get a slightly earlier post on your RSS feed.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That's how that'll work. And it'll be a little shorter. We'll have one song. We are going to do recommendals and babble tomorrow. And family, or a tadpooly feud. Yeah. Yep. So that's all happening.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Just a little shorter. If there's time for news, great, but probably not, is my guess, given the, how long those two chuckleheads talk. It is like, it is going to be an hour of film sec, basically, right? It's, you know, Brian Dunway for the first half, Randy for the second half. Yeah. And for those asking, Brian is ascending to the rapture tomorrow at 9 a.m. That's true. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:27 this is my left behind moment and I can't wait because we all float up there. Is that how it goes? I don't know. I never saw left behind. Is Kirk Cameron, he taking you or with you or meeting you? He's my guide. Him and that new kid they had it in the sixth season. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I forgot about that kid. That's when that show was probably done. I think they were guys. Yes, that was the shark jumping moment for growing pains. Yeah, that maybe should have ended that right before that happened. all right well that's all well and good i've enjoyed that conversation very much now yeah let's dive into the news it's time for the news brought to you by show done kid a tms patron who says most of my work is in progress as i go independent but i'm working on being more active at twitch dot tv slash showdon kid that's s h o d a n k id uh uh
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Starting point is 00:33:43 Doc, why are we going into the future? It's Shodan Kids, Marty. I see what you did there. What I did there, Shodan Kids. That's pretty good. All right, we're moving to this story here about, a guy impersonating the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Now, I'm no fan of the Patriots, but that is no bearing on this story, okay? Yeah, I'm just not a fan of Tom Brady, now that he's not a patriot, I like the Patriots a little bit more. Yeah, you know, actually, yeah, you too, a little bit more. Who's the, the different coach now, right? It's not coach, what's his bucket?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Belichick, I think, I thought it was. Is it still Belichick? I thought he retired. No? No, maybe not. Maybe he didn't retire, and I'm just, you know, I could totally be wrong. I thought,
Starting point is 00:34:24 The guy that owns him, the craft guys, he's still picking up hookers or whatever his deal was? That I don't know. Yeah, Bill Belichick is still coaching. He's still coaching. Okay. Yeah. He's such a crusty dude. He is a grusty dude. Yeah. He's a winning coach, though. I'll give him that. He is. Yeah, I'll give him that. Not as much so without his pet goat. Nope. His pet goat has moved to another farm.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Pet goat. Well, a man impersonates Patriots player to sell fake Tom Brady Super Bowl. rings and now faces up to 92 years in jail. Oof. This is no good for him. Tom Brady has done enough merit, or sorry, has done enough merits. Done enough merits. Earned enough merits?
Starting point is 00:35:11 I don't know about this done enough merits. I mean, unless he's talking about Tom. I mean, maybe bolivip.com needs to get their shit to go. Maybe. To be considered the greatest quarterback in NFL history, he's the winningest gunslinger to ever do it. And it seems he could even win more rings before retiring. That's why I wouldn't be much surprised to see many people out there with Brady Championship rings. I mean, he's a popular guy and can order a couple of copies whenever he wants.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But recently a 24-year-old man called Scott Spina, you could say named. Named. Yeah, that person is called Scott. That's really weird. We call that person, Scott. Who wrote this? This is dumb. Was brought to justice for trying to make the most of that impersonating a former NFL player, New England's Patriot player, to get and sell fake SB rings, that's Super Bowl rings, engraved with Tom Brady's name. The feds say Spina started cooking up the scheme way back in 2017.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I don't like that we say way back with talking about 2017. It's not that long ago. Four years ago, man. I guess it is. That's a way. It's a ways back now. It is a ways back, yes. When he bought a Super Bowl 51 ring off a Patriots player with at least one bad check and then sold the ring for $63,000 to a California broker specializing in championship rings.
Starting point is 00:36:34 A guy got busted. He is now going to jail. He will serve up to 92 years in prison. Wow. Yeah. It may not be his first offense, is my guess. Jeez. My guess is this guy has done some crimes.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Where do you go to have a fake Super Bowl ring produced? I don't know, man. You don't know, Jostens. Will Jostens produce a fake Super Bowl ring for you? I doubt it. They'd probably get in trouble. Like, I don't know how you'd be. I went to Super Bowl High School, and my name is New England Patriots.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Oh, that's awesome. I went to Super Bowl High School. I want to go there. Someone says in the chat, you could just do them on Etsy. I don't know. Maybe people make Etsy rings. Oh, maybe. Yeah, Super Bowl rings on Etsy.
Starting point is 00:37:16 3D print one, sure. Oh, yeah, that's true. I probably could because you can 3D print the mold, or 3D print the ring, generate a mold off of it, and then pour, um, pewter, like, uh, you know, a softer, multiple metal into that. Maybe the Franklin Mint could make, uh, some fake rings. Why not? There you go.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yeah. Those guys are, subscribe to that. They make shit. Uh, they do. All right. In our continuing series of trying to find B stories, here's this. I don't like bees. We have a fresh one.
Starting point is 00:37:48 8, sorry, 80,000 nice bees, okay? Oh, nice bees. Nice bees. Good. Uh, have been discovered in a bathroom wall during home renovation. Oh, this is not to be... 80,000. That's a lot of bees, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:04 It's a lot of bees. This is not to be confused with... Yeah, they own the house. Let's just, let's be clear. These are not to be confused with Reverend Joe Olstein's money they found in his bathroom walls. A whole different story. I don't know if you heard about that, that megachurch. guy had all that money stashed in there.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I still haven't heard what the hell was going on with that. But they had all this like donation money stuffed in the walls. So some handyman who's doing a renovation on part of his megachurch finds all this money stuffed in the walls. That's weird, right? Yeah, that feels like a story you'd make up when you embezzle a bunch of money. Yeah. I found it in the walls.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Larry in the chat says that's some Ozark shit right there. Yeah, kind of. Totally is. Yeah, well, they actually did hide money in the walls. They sure did. Oh, my God. By the way, I know you're watching, I think you're watching. Oh, no, you're catching up on Kirby enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I am in, I am finally getting, I am in the current season. You're in the current season? Last night was there, or this last weekend was the season finale, and it's fantastic. It is, uh... I can't wait. It's been a great season so far. It's very good. It's so many, forget, untied shoestrings finally get tied in this finale.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You know who's, who really blew me away in this season so far? is that um Susie Esmond I don't know who is that who does she play Larry what's a matter with you no she's always good
Starting point is 00:39:27 I always like her no I'm talking about the girl who's the daughter of the guy that runs the taco stand oh she's Maria Elena she's amazing she's so good
Starting point is 00:39:40 she's great at playing horrible oh yeah dude I immediately want to follow whatever comedy career she's about to do because she's really freaking funny. Really good. Yeah, that show.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I hope they're not done. Are they doing more? Oh, yeah. And Tracy Ellman is fantastic. Yeah, it's such a great season. Are they going to do more? Do we know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:03 We didn't know until they got announced if they were going to be more of this last time. That's true. I guess they kind of like having that ability to sort of do whatever they want. I'll do another season if it's in me. Yeah. That's what he says. Hey, pretty, pretty likely.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I love it. I love that show so much. All right. We also find out Leon's middle name this season. I won't say it. What? Oh, that's like a Kramer kind of deal with Cosmo. He is kind of the Kramer of this show. He is the Kramer of the show. Not being in a state that allows gambling as most of the country is,
Starting point is 00:40:42 we get a ton of J.B. smooth here. in Colorado because he is Caesar for the Caesar's um Caesar's palace gambling app. Mm. Hmm. Hmm. So every commercial break, because Colorado allows gambling is draft Kings, Caesars, Bet MGM, Bet, Bet Frank or Bet Fred or whatever it is. Those are horrible. Those are the worst ones. Bet, um, it is really seriously like bet Fred. Is it really? I hate that. Yes. It's awful. It sounds like a handmade's tail character. It kind of does. Yeah, so, so it sounds, oh, same in Arizona, same.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So anywhere it's got gambling, sounds like J.B. Smooth is everywhere. But J.B. smooth is Caesar, and so he's, these commercials run constantly. So we get a lot of J.B. smooth, and we're kind of tired of him. I love him. We're kind of tired of those commercials. I get it. He was great on, he's in the Spider-Man movie. He's consistently that teacher guy.
Starting point is 00:41:43 He is very briefly, but he's in there, as is Martin. Star? Yeah, I thought since those guys were directly credited an IMDB ahead of time, I thought,
Starting point is 00:41:51 oh, they'll have a bigger role like they did in the first and second. They really don't. It's very small. But it's good to see those guys. LC night.
Starting point is 00:41:58 That's Holly Berry as Caesar's wife? I did not know that. She's got so much makeup on. I did not. We could not recognize her. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:42:08 They moved Catwoman. Callie Berry. I keep saying Hollyberry Barry, like it's Christmas time or something. Hollyberry. I had no idea. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:42:16 didn't. How's she doing? She's all right? She's good. Right? She's doing fine, apparently. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. She's got some, uh, some new thing that she's directing or producing. I don't think that, they don't think, uh, she's in. Hmm. Is it, uh, like a movie or like a movie. Yeah. Current movie. You are a catwoman. You are a catwoman. Could you know, you couldn't find, uh, Oh, I got it in here somewhere. That's it. Yeah, bruised. I always have the Randy quote. Let's see. I've moved Catwoman. No, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Here it is. I've moved Catwoman. Yeah, yeah, he did. You know, we didn't move it far enough because we ended up watching it. That's right. Well, now we never have to, never have to move it again. No. Back to the bees.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Yes, the bees. 80,000 nice bees discovered in a bathroom wall. I want to know why the word nice, how that's in there. Well, you'll see because they kind of make a point of it. I mean, they're basically just good honey bees, the kind of you want. want, you know, that are good for everything. Even though the homeowners in Florida Shore Acres area had grown accustomed to the occasional bee sting, they were tired of constant buzzing and decided to big goodbye to the uninvited guest by renovating their home.
Starting point is 00:43:29 The family, however, were in for surprise when they called beekeeper Elijah Bixler. Sounds like a beekeeper, doesn't it? Alicia, Alicia. Alicia. What did I say, Elijah? Elijah? Alicia. Alicia.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Alicia. Alicia. Alicia. Let's call the whole thing off. She tore away the shower wall in their bathroom to reveal a massive beehive, 80,000 bees in total. They had initially just seen a tiny patch of the beehive from the opening of the bathroom, but once she began to break down the wall, she found the massive hive that covered the entire area from floor right up to ceiling. There's a video on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I don't know if I have a link here, I might. See if we've got video of footage of this. Honey, honey, just coming out of this beehive just by touching it. Ooh, that's good honey. Would you eat bathroom? Some good shower honey. Would you eat shower honey? Would you eat shower honey or no?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh, geez, that's a good question because it's like, it's not produced in a typical environment. I don't know if I would. I think, uh, I might. Yeah, don't know. That's a really good question is, is, because honey doesn't spoil. No. Um, but there could be weird. particulates from insulation and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 No, I don't think I would. If you knew it was shower honey, you'd probably say, ah, can you have a different kind? Is there a different kind of honey? Shower honey is my porn name. I just think I would be hesitant to eat your honey if you told me it came out of there. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. No, I would don't think I would.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I wouldn't. In the right situation, I might, but it'd have to be pretty dire. I love this is on TikTok. of course. Let's see. The incident occurred last month was widely seen recently. I got a surprise when I started breaking away the tiles behind the shower wall. Look how much honey is packed away in here. This is a seven foot long beehive. She said in the video, you could hear her voice. Mrs. Bixler. According to her, the homeowners were informed about the beehive behind the shower wall, but we're not concerned about it. The family comprised of a couple. They're two kids and two great Danes. They just continue to live there, despite. the occasional bee sting, just figured it was no big deal. We love nature. We love bees, they say. And they were like, hey, you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone.
Starting point is 00:45:55 They were nice bees. Oh, that's where the nice comes from. They were nice bees. Except when they sting, yeah, they weren't so nice. Yeah, the occasional, how often is the occasional bee sting? Like, are we talking like, you know, once a week? Yeah, or could you have anyone over that was like bee sting? Allergic?
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Where do you have an epipen everywhere? I'd be totally fine if there was a way to ensure that they were kept safe and that I was kept safe like a little, you know, a little couple openings in the outside wall that let them go and find stuff. I imagine they've already got those or else they'd all be dead. But go and find pollen, bring it back. Sure. Et cetera. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 How'd they get in though? Outside probably, right? Must be. There's some hole outside. Yeah, they don't say here. Here, okay, so they put in a glass wall so I could look at them while I shower. Hey, bees. This is a little like my buddy, Brian Holinka, Blizzard.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He had a, they found a giant bee hive. It may have been hornets. No, I think it was bees because there was honey. Anyway, massive hive up in his roof. And they did the same thing here where, in their case, they moved them out for a while. So they were in like a hotel or something. They took the whole part of that roof out, removed the entire hive and kept all the bees and moved the bees to, I don't know if it was a bee sanctuary or be, you know, like a, a bunch of managed hives or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Same thing here. They took the queen and all the workers and saved them. So they don't just go in there and spray them and kill them. They move them. Because we need bees. We need hornets. Yeah, yeah. Hornets can F off.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, exactly. Hornets and geese. Put them in a shuttle. That's right. Oh, that's a perfect combination. I love it. Put the bees. All the bees are, sorry, all the hornets, all of the, that means the murder hornets,
Starting point is 00:47:43 the fat ones, the yellow jackets, all. that stuff put all those in the same ship as all the geese don't care what brand of geese just all of them right send them to the moon eff them perfect exactly honkers and stingers that's right hunkers and stingers the hunkers and stingers express uh all right we got one more story here i think for uh today new hampshire brothers wait oh this is great we didn't talk about this yesterday we did we did have another hampshire story yesterday that's right it's that's familiar i was thinking did i read this all hey I'm sure all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Well, a New Hampshire brother or a pair of brothers have been regifting the same box of candy for 34 years now. I love this story. Yes. These two New Hampshire brothers have been observing an unusual holiday tradition for more than three decades, regifting the same box of candy each year for Christmas. Ryan Watson says he gave a Christmas themed box of lifesavers to his brother, Eric, as a joke in 1987.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Oh, more bugged about how long ago, 87 was. it's lifesavers though like that doesn't expire no that's I dare them to open it and eat these at this point because he knew the older boy didn't like them
Starting point is 00:48:55 that's why he did it was a joke he said he kept the box candy all year so he could give it right back to Ryan the next Christmas this started a tradition and it has persisted every year since neither one of us will give up give it up because we are brothers
Starting point is 00:49:07 we can never give up if you ask which one has ever done the best as far as giving these we're both going to say ourselves, we're never going to give in. So they're... That's hilarious. Clearly competitive. They have...
Starting point is 00:49:20 So some of the things they've done, they've sewn it into a teddy bear. So they've taken the... It's like a Christmas book filled with lifesavers. Made by lifesavers, but it's like a book and it's filled with candy. And they've sewn it into a teddy bear. They've had a restaurant deliver it on a silver platter to one of them at the end of a meal. Oh, my Lord. this is it's so great i love it i love that that's that should go on for in perpetuity until they're dead
Starting point is 00:49:48 that should be in whoever dies first the other guy should lay that on the coffin or something totally should yeah i'm all in for this okay uh that's your news for today uh we're gonna take a break when we come back we're gonna talk to bill duran he's back home uh missed last week but he's back baby and uh we'll find out what's going on the world of making things also a little science of bobby after that before all that, though. A song break from Brian. Yeah. So these guys are The Watchers. No, not because
Starting point is 00:50:20 they're overseeing the multiverse in what if, but they're a couple of brothers, or no, I'm sorry, a couple of friends who formed Valley of Fire records also out of a band that they also formed. Tim Narducci and J.J. Garcia, incredible guitarist
Starting point is 00:50:36 right here. This is a rocker, ladies and gentlemen. Here is the song, I am in the dark by the watchers. I am the screaming the night Bathe in fire, black on the light I am the hell that you won't Darkest dots Breaking you slow
Starting point is 00:51:18 Set its dream So unclean In a wall Taking soul Share the skin I am breathing To work and breath
Starting point is 00:51:44 I am the dark in the dark. I am the dark. Right in the knife in your back. Pace in silence Await the attack I saw your heaven of gold A victim pain Beyond your throes
Starting point is 00:52:24 Sadist dreams So on a knee In a heart Take it soul Share the skin I am To the world
Starting point is 00:52:47 I will Yes I am I the dark Black out your heart I am the door.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I am the door. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, and I'm going to say. I am, I am a dark in your heart. Back in your heart. I am. I am a dog. The mini-winnie, part of American tradition. And today, on the cutting edge of design and function in a Class C motor home.
Starting point is 00:54:51 People who were born in 2000 are now 40. The morning stream. out, Muppets! You like that Generation Z, Matt? I want to hear that one more time. Can we hear that one more time? Here you go. People who were born in 2000 are now 40.
Starting point is 00:55:22 She was serious when I captured that. Of course, everybody laid into it. 40 what? Yeah, 40 what. They're now 40 what. Sounds heavier? Maybe. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Maybe. I know. I have one who's born. 2000. He's 21. What's wrong with your math? Anyway, hey, Brian, tell me that song again. That song again is, uh, I am the dark by the Watchers. Very. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:55:46 All right, uh, sit back and enjoy the following guest appearances. Okay. Uh, hold on. I'm gonna have a seat. I'll stand. I'll stand back. Will you stand back? I'll stand back. In the middle of my room. Oh, I didn't hear from you. I don't know. That song very well.
Starting point is 00:56:04 All right. Here we go. Enjoy this. Your bat caves open there, Bill. A guy we haven't talked to in a bit because last week he was traveling and family and doing all kinds of cool Christmas stuff. It's Bill DeRan all the way from PunishProps.com and the Pacific Northwest of this great country of ours. Bill, welcome back to the show. Oh, I don't hear him.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Is he muted? He might be muted. He leaves for a week and then he's muted. Oh, oh, forgets how things work. Oh. He's got to make a new mic. phone out of foam you're going to foam smith a mic and a mixer and uh put a little balsa wood in there maybe a oh there he is oh no you're fine look you look you've had a you've had a whirlwind
Starting point is 00:56:51 holiday you know we can't expect perfection it's fine how are you good that was a unplug it and plug it back in situation oh those are the best kind like a char hey did you i don't know if you heard this but well, you probably didn't, but Brian Ibbett made me a cool 3D print of Batman. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. And I have to paint it and I'm nervous. I gave him a gift that involves a lot of work. Hey, excellent.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Happy Christmas. Here's the job. I'm like legit excited about it, but I'm also, I keep being nervous about it and I don't know why. But then Brian reassures me you just take this primer here and you spray it if you screw up and you just keep working. So start over. Yeah. So I'm going to do my best. I wonder what you've been up to, though.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I mean, it seems like, you know, holidays and all that, been kind of busy. What's on your plate today? Well, it's snowing out, and I'm staying in home and not working. We took a couple weeks off. I've just been playing a whole bunch of cyberpunk 27. Nice. Where are you playing it? What platform are you playing it on?
Starting point is 00:58:00 PC. Ah, that's the place to play it. Yeah, that's where the, uh, the, the, um, current, sorry, next gen current consoles, PS5 and Xbox series X and S don't have their native versions yet. And so really the best, if you're going to get the best visual experience, uh, and also probably the most patched experience, I think the PC is the way to go. So good job. How's that, how's that going to?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah, that's what I waited a while. It was on sale this last week, so I grabbed it finally. Yeah. Are you enjoying it? I am. It's fun. It's taking a little bit, but I am getting really. kind of getting into the world.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah, the world is quite a world. That's the key, right? You want a good cyberpunk world to spend your time in. Right. You know, that game has that. It's got some problems, some issues, but I don't know. I don't think it gets, technically when it launched, it was a mess, like real bad. But it's in a place now where I don't think it deserves as much hate as it keeps getting.
Starting point is 00:58:57 So I'm glad you're enjoying it. That's good to hear. Oh, yeah. Seems like it's fine. Yeah. That's awesome. anything in their pop out and go, oh, I'm making that gun. I'm making that knife or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Any of that happen? Not quite, yeah, but I have seen a lot of attractive stuff. Yeah, I like the car. I kind of want to make a car. Yeah. You should make a car. What would that take? A lot, right?
Starting point is 00:59:19 At least a garage. I don't even have a garage. So that would be step one. Wow. All right. Well, tell us what you are making. What are you thinking about making? Because since you're taking some time off,
Starting point is 00:59:30 you probably are like in, you know, headspace mode where you're thinking of your next great project, right? Absolutely, yeah. In fact, so for Christmas, I got a new art book, and that's what I wanted to talk about, because art books are awesome. Yeah. So I got the Spider-Verse art book for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Oh, the Into the Spider-Verse, the animated? Yes. Nice. And I'm very excited about that. I haven't seen the new Spider-Man movie yet, but I'm also very excited about that. You should. It's very good.
Starting point is 01:00:00 You'll like it. Art books are a really cool thing to collect, and I have quite a few of them. I have dozens from TV shows, movies, and video games. One of the cool things about art books is for Christmas, you may have a friend or a family member who's got to get you something. And art book is a great thing to send them, or a list of art books that you want. So is this one highly specific, or is it like general? Is it drawing? Is it like what do you got?
Starting point is 01:00:34 So I always ask So the reason I bring it up this way as a gift is because that's how I got mine We have I have a family member who drew my hat in a secret Santa thing And I had to tell them what I wanted and I needed a good price point like 20, 30 bucks, right? So I said, oh, yeah, here's a bunch of art books that I like pick one and they picked the Spider-Verse one So yeah Got it I think we bought that I think Carter had that book. Yeah. I think. And it's awesome. It's got like really cool conceptual stuff in there and
Starting point is 01:01:07 it's amazing. It's really, really good. So also if you have a friend who you know is a fanatic of a certain franchise, an art book is a great thing to get as a gift for that person. So I have a wish list on my Amazon of all the art books I still want. Oh, nice. Yeah. They're also great just like coffee table books just to have out. And the reason, the main reason why I get art books is they're really fantastic inspiration for your artwork.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Especially like a movie you're way, way into, or a video game you're way, way into. And they're full of more than just images. Most of them are like a lot of concept images, maybe some photographs from like the production of a movie or whatever. But
Starting point is 01:01:53 really good art books have tons of information about the production of that thing. So, for example, we have an Avatar The Last Airbender book that has tons and tons of writing from the folks that made the show. And there's a lot you can learn about the show by going through the art book, more than just the art. Sure. Would you count things like, so I'm showing the chat right now, this book I picked up earlier this year. It came out in 2000. It's a book called Ridley Scott, a retrospective.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And it's basically everything he's ever made all the way up through. I think Alien Covenant, maybe beyond that. But it's like, you know, really gets down in the gritty-nitty about how Alien was made and the work that they did on the original Dune concepts that carried over to that, including Geiger's design work and all that stuff. It's very, very cool, super inspirational. But it's, you know, it's all filmmaking. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:53 But it's also like... There's a lot of images, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a lot of miniatures. Like, here's, like, here's, you know, mega L.A. and Blade Runner, and it's just this model and a dude walking around, putting stuff down on it and pumping, you know, fake fog through it and all that. And I love that stuff. It's, like, super interesting to me. But would you put that in the same category? Are we talking about it? It's, you know, it's obviously not exactly the same kind of visual as an art book, but, you know, it's a kind of art, right? Yeah, it's in a similar vein. There are plenty of images that you can pull inspiration from, too. I personally like the ones that are not just imagery either.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I like hearing the stories behind all that stuff. One of the things I like a lot is there's frequently unused concept art. So, for example, I built the District 9 alien rifle a few years back. And in the District 9 book that I have, they show that rifle with a bunch of different color schemes, a bunch of different variations, which I think is really, really neat, just to see the path they took to get to the final design that they have. I think being able to witness that in an art book gives you a lot of insight into, you know, the artists who worked on it. Yeah. More than just seeing the final product. And as someone who makes stuff, I think that's valuable information.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I found something called the big bad world of concept art for video games. How to Start Your Career as a Concept Artist. It came out in 2017, highly rated. I was just looking at some of these pages. This looks pretty neat. If you're into that sort of stuff, a lot of weapon designs in here, cool character stuff. Mex. Oh, I like mex.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I like Tex-Mex. You like Tex-Mex? It's all right. You know, you get thirsty, though. I need water around for that. Yeah. Bill, do you ever want to make a mech? You ever want to just like break, I mean,
Starting point is 01:04:52 we talk about cars and stuff, but, you know, I don't even mean one that works. Like, just a big, tall, cool, show-off, badass-looking metal monster meck would be rad, right? Correct. That would be very rad. Yeah. All right, you have my vote. I vote for you. You get that done.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Let us know how it goes. Again, the garage is really holding. Not having a garage is kind of holding me back. Yeah, that one's a stinker. I would need a three-story garage to build a mech. Yeah. Well, my neighbors would think. Yeah, they would be, well, maybe they'd be impressed.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Maybe it'd be fine. It doesn't matter what they'd think. They wouldn't say anything with my three-story tall mech covered in missiles. That's right. You aim it at them, even if they're useless and not real. You aim those missiles at them, and what are they going to do? Yeah. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Well, awesome. Any links you'd like to share with us this week or today? Sure. Real quick. A couple, a handful of some of my favorite art books, super fast. Yeah. Fallout 4 has a really good one. Mad Max Fury Road.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Scott, if you haven't seen that one. I have seen that. It's a pretty good movie, I think. It's all right. Yeah, yeah. Do you have the art book? No, I don't. But now that I'm hearing this, I need to find out why I don't own this.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I'm looking at it up. I'm at the production, like the concept art and stuff would be amazing in that thing. Oh, look at that. Oh, I should just do. just get this. Why don't I have this? Why don't you have that? Oh, guys. There's a good series for The Hobbit.
Starting point is 01:06:24 There's a really good couple of books for the game Destiny. And then Blade Runner 2049 has a really amazing one. Oh, I'll bet it does. Probably a good Dune one on the way, I would have to imagine. I can tell you why Scott doesn't have a lot of these art books. Because every time he walks into a Barnes & Noble, he's too preoccupied with telling Kim how everything in that Barnes & Noble could fit on his iPhone. Yep, I can't get over it.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I go in there with the intent to look at something cool, and instead I go, it all fits on my phone eight times over, I yell at the employees. You're not wrong. Okay, cool. These are good, good recommendations. Yeah, there is a Dune one as well. I haven't grabbed it yet. Oh, it is.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Okay, so there is one. I assume there'd be one. There's also a cyberpunk 277 one that I got to get. Oh, wow. Yeah, the Fury Road one looks great. Like the Furiosa concept art right there on the cover or back cover. of it. Yeah, that looks awesome. I would like to own that now. I'm going to buy this today. Yep. This is a measly... Spent some money. It's a measly $30. I'll use... It's not like Christmas
Starting point is 01:07:28 just happened or anything, you know, so I'll just go ahead and buy myself a gift, and it'll be great. Quick, send Scott an Amazon link code so you can get some money off of all of his purchases today. Someone in the chat, J.C. Calhoun just made actually a kind of an interesting point without actually meaning to. There's a lot of games that aren't great. that's just fail or whatever. Anthem's a good example. And he says he just picked up one for Anthem for three bucks. Now, the problem with Anthem has never been its art design or it's any of that. That stuff's amazing. It's really good. That would be a really cool art book to have just as, you know, and you're going to get it cheap as the point because the game sucked and
Starting point is 01:08:07 nobody bought the game. So they figure, well, we got to sell the book at a lower price than they do. And there's really good work in there. So, That's not a bad way to do it if you're looking for a discount. So for 249, for Blade Runner, 249, there's the art book, which, again, looks amazing. And then there's the storyboards, a separate book that's got all the storyboards. It's like, oh, man, they both look really cool. Yeah. Oh, Brian, I just found a thing you want.
Starting point is 01:08:35 What is it? It's called, hold on, maybe you have it. Hold on, I'm going to bring it up so I can read the damn thing, the Texas is small. The story of Marvel Studios, the making of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Oh, I don't know if I do have that. It's a fatty. 134 bucks this thing. Huge coffee table style, like big sleeve thing.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'll bet you'd like that. Tina got me for Christmas the Paul McCartney Lyrics book, which is another fatty. This thing is as heavy as a small child. And it's like lyrics to all the Beatles songs as well as all his solo stuff, his wings stuff, as well as the stories behind all of them. And this thing is a beast. But man, it's so looking forward to that read. Is it like a scan?
Starting point is 01:09:23 There are a lot of scanned, uh, handwritten, uh, handwritten, yeah, all of his handwritten lyric sheets. That's really cool. Who has all those now? Like, where do you think those are? There isn't some kind of, I think he owns those. You know, the, the, the ASCAP licenses, I don't know who owns the songs now because it was Michael Jackson's estate.
Starting point is 01:09:41 I don't know if he bought them back. but I mean he owns all of his materials that he used to create those songs that the songs themselves can be purchased by somebody else sure that's pretty cool um well all right everybody go out there and get your favorite art book is the point there you go it's a great really good suggestion especially now that there's all those after christmas sales yeah that's right especially on stuff for gift cards yeah yeah yeah exactly somebody gave you a target gift card use it although target kind of sucks for books don't go there i will say bill you're you're um i've a project for a long time that you inspired that I'm finally going to
Starting point is 01:10:16 work on this week while freelance is kind of slower. It's taking the Hasbro Star Lord Element Guns that I bought and turning them into like roughing them up priming them and then painting them
Starting point is 01:10:34 to look like actual Star Lord element guns. Nice. Well, I have a video where I do that. I know. I know. Yes. You buy like carbon fiber stickers and all that still. Well, have fun. That sounds exciting. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. We'll create some burn marks on the metal and stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, why not? Bill, it's going to be great having you around for another year. So we look forward to 2020, 2020. 2020. Can't say, what am I trying to say? 2020. Why do I keep saying 2020? Why do I do that? Because you think you're a Ramon. I don't like saying that. I like the Ramones. Don't get me wrong. They're great. 2020, 2020, 2020, 2020. I want to be sedated.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I do want to be sedated. Anyway, Phil, have a good one. Take it easy, and we'll see you next time. Bye now. All right. Yeah, look at that big fatty book thing. The story of Marvel Studios, making this Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, do you see that? 134, normally 150. Oh! Wow, it's marked down $16 whole dollars. Yeah, but let's see. They have a bundle, too, for, let's see, 176. It includes, like, origin of comics and stuff. I've got the Marvel Encyclopedia.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Yeah. Of course you do. Of course I do. Yeah. Anyway, if anyone's out there going on it for me for my birthday, dingus. That's right. I did. It was great.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I remember doing that. But the, this big one, you got to, somebody out there with some pockets, man. You got to pony up and get Brian a giant book. Oh, no, you don't need. Nobody needs to do that. I think I should. Brian will do this one for himself if he does it. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Bobby incoming. Buy me coffee crisp candy bars from Canada because we don't have those here. Oh, is that a, tell me what that is. I don't know if that is. We've had them before on the show. It's like a Kit Kat bar, but coffee mocha flavored. Oh, I remember that. We did try those.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Somebody, somebody and somebody sent those from there. They did, indeed. So I have added Bobby to this call, but he's hanging up on it. Bobby, you there? Hello? I'm here. Are you? Yeah, that was weird.
Starting point is 01:12:45 It, like, hung up on you twice. I don't know why. Yeah. It was really odd. It's all right, though, because now we can do this. Science. It's science, everybody, with Bobby. A little science, anyway.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I am science. I am here. You're finally, science has arrived. Hey, you sound like you're still getting over that head cold a little bit. How are you doing all right? I'm feeling fine. I just decided to keep the deep voice. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:13:10 good hang on to that for dear life because it'll go away eventually uh it's nice to have you here uh we hope you're well how was your christmas everything fine uh it was it was great it was nice and spend some time with family went down to charleston to see the in-laws and it was fast turn around we had to come back real fast because of work oh yeah sure but the kids had great great fun they got lots it's all about the kids now you know when you have kids kids, it's not about you anymore. No, no, it never is again. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 01:13:46 But eventually when you got one of them has a kid, then it's all about them. And then you get to dress up in a Santa suit and look stupid. So look forward to that. Can't wait. It is actually really fun. He was way better this year. Previous year, he didn't like it at all. I cried the whole time.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I have video of this. I don't know. Now, me this year in the exact same Santa suit, same voice, same entry and everything, He wasn't excited about it, but he didn't cry. So he opened the door. He saw me out there. He literally says, buy Santa and shut the door. Then I came in.
Starting point is 01:14:21 How many F bombs did you drop while you were there? I didn't drop any. And he neither did he. Who the F for you? So this is on TikTok if he wants to see it. It's on my account. But I come in, finally, sit down with him. And for a second, he'll sit there and read.
Starting point is 01:14:34 But then he starts to side-eye his mom and then realizes where he is again and does not want to be there. So he escapes again. but never cried. So, you know, baby steps. We're moving on up. He's about to turn three. So, you know, you got to do what you got to do. Let me share something real quick. Here's the science of growth in young people. All right. Hold on. I got to find where I put this. All right. So this is one year ago, Van trying to say my name. Okay. So he, this is a year ago, him trying to say literally a year this month, he tried to say my name. Here you go. Hey, Van, can you say Scott? Suck.
Starting point is 01:15:09 No, say Scott. Suck. No. Scott. Suck. Scott. Suck. Scott.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Suck. Scott. Scott. Suck. Okay, it's as good as it got, right? One year later. He's trying to say you suck. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:30 One year later, he can do it now. So listen to this. This is recorded just last week. Say Scott. Scott. Can you say Scott Johnson? So I've got to die. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:41 That sounds like like Obi-1 canobi a little bit. Yeah, so a little trouble there on the full name, but yeah, progress, everybody. Progress. All right, Bobby, enough of this bull crap. Let's get to what's going on today in science. You, of course, a purveyor of scientific thoughts and ideas. We'd love to hear what you have planned today. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:15:59 Well, we've got two main things that have popped up in science news lately. The first one is a little bit of update on omicry. And then the one after that is the James Webb Space Telescope. But we'll start with the quick Omicron update. So just, I think yesterday or maybe the day before, the CDC changed their quarantine recommendations. Did you hear that? Yeah, there's a awful lot of people flipping out about it.
Starting point is 01:16:27 I don't understand why. All they did was just say, well, here's the new how much time you should quarantine yourself number. So they changed the recommendation down from 10 days. down to five days. And what that means is if you have tested positive for COVID, then you need to quarantine for five days. And then after that time, if you're asymptomatic, then you can leave the house,
Starting point is 01:16:52 but they still say you should wear a mask for the next five days. Okay. And that recommendation change is based on the data. That with Omicron being probably by now, in the 90% of range of new cases. So Omicron is here and here to stay for a while. With Omicron, the most infectious times are two days prior to showing symptoms and three days after.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So that's where that recommendation comes from. And so we've got to remember that the CDC doesn't just make recommendations and say, you know, the most extreme recommendations. Part of what their consideration is is public health and the ability to be able to comply with those things and getting people back to work and functioning society and stuff like that. So all of those things factor into their recommendations. And that's where they are. Why is it controversial?
Starting point is 01:17:54 Because I mean, I guess everything's controversial, so I don't mean to be naive to that. Everybody can take anything and make it into whatever they want to make it these days. But it surprised me a little because to me it was like, oh, they've altered the recommendation based. on collected data and then and that may change again because data that's what data is and it's like me being told hey get the colonoscopy at 50 nope get it at 40 nope get it at 45 like they this happens all the time with all sorts of things in our lives and I was I couldn't understand why that was such a hot button other than COVID's a hot button in general but well when you talk about controversy when it comes to science you have to be careful about using is this actually
Starting point is 01:18:31 controversial or not it might be controversial to the to the lay public and I don't mean lay public as a as a pejorative term. I just mean it as non-experts. And that's most of us, right? So, but it's non-controversial in the scientific world because this is based on the data and the data is showing that, hey, this, the Omicron comes in fast and gets out pretty fast too. It's not too bad and the symptoms are less severe and hospitalizations aren't as bad.
Starting point is 01:19:05 And so if it's possible for us to, you know, use that data to soften the recommendations, then that's what the science is going to point towards. It's controversial to the rest of the public, probably because it's just different and people are worried and want to say, no, you need to quarantine as long as you can so that we can stop the spread, you know, which I understand that, and it makes sense to me. but the science is showing that Omicron is a lot different than previous variants. It's a lot different than Delta. Here's the perfect example of one of the ways that it's very different.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I think it was December, anyway, around December 21st, the data, the hard data showed that 73% of new cases were Omicron, and that's why, and the reason I say it's likely 90, percent now in that range. We don't have the data on it yet, but the reason I say it's around 90 percent probably now is because one week earlier, when it was 73 percent, one week earlier, it was only 12 percent of new cases. So over the course of a week, that's how fast it started spreading. Now, that sounds scary, right? And that might be like, you want to say, well, that everybody should lock their doors and we should all be, everything should needs to be shut down because this is scary and spreading, right? But it's also an incredible, it's much more
Starting point is 01:20:40 mild than the Delta variant was. So this is preliminary data. It's not been peer reviewed and everything. So I give that caveat because these numbers I'm about to give could very well change, but the range that they're in is probably indicative of the trend that things are going. And what that is is Omicron, some preliminary data shows that Omicron multiplies 70 times faster than Delta in the airways, like so our windpipe and nasal cavities and stuff like that. So in the airways, Omicron multiply 70 times faster than Delta, but in the lungs, it multiplies 10 times slower than Delta. What that means is that it will spread much faster because it can, in the airways where
Starting point is 01:21:31 you're coughing and sneezing and everything, it's spreading really fast. But once it gets into your lungs, it's spreading really slow. And the lungs is where it can do the damage. Right. So it's not to say there aren't people that aren't going to still experience, you know, horrendous symptoms and maybe even due to other circumstances, be they, you know, comorbidities or whatever, they may still, you know, it's still going to be COVID-related awful. But because it's moving slower in the lungs, you're talking about kind of a numbers thing,
Starting point is 01:22:03 right? Like, just less, less severe on the aggregate. The other thing, the other thing is that this change in, in the virus to Omicron, to being faster spreading, but milder is good. And it's expected. It's what you would expect a virus like this to do. Typically, a virus like this that is, when it mutates, it's going to probably, if it's going to be a successful virus, which clearly by this time we can call COVID a successful virus, in terms of, you know, from COVID's perspective, right? The virus is succeeding at what it wants to do. But in order for it to be successful. It needs to be, it needs to trend towards being faster spreading, but weaker. Because if you're faster spreading and you kill people really fast, then you're not going to last very long.
Starting point is 01:23:01 You know what I mean? Sure. Because you're just going to run out of people to spread to. But if you can be weak, harder to detect, you go asymptomatic in people for a long time, if not the whole time, then you can spread more easily, and you do. And then so then at the same time, if you're, if you're mutating to actually be easier to spread, then you get to go all around the world, you know? So even if, so even if you have an alleviation coming from the idea that it's slower in the lungs, so even if that happens, you still have the potential because of the spreadability and breakthrough cases and masks aren't as effective against it, that sort of stuff, despite it being a more mild form once you get it,
Starting point is 01:23:45 you still have this exponential rise in spreadability which can neutralize the benefit of it being slower in the lungs because at that point, it's not going to matter because the volume is so big. You're still overwhelming hospitals. You're still overwhelming the system. You're just doing it in a different, you know, you're just weighing it on a different end of the thing. Yeah. I don't mean to imply that it's good in the sense,
Starting point is 01:24:09 like people need to stop being careful. You absolutely do need to be careful. We don't want to just stop and give – it's already good at spreading. We don't want to give it even an easier time spreading, right? We still want a mask. It's – it is – masks are still effective against it. Sure. And – but in terms of why they change the recommendations, it's just because it goes – it goes through us faster.
Starting point is 01:24:34 And it's not – once it's out of your airways, it's difficult to spread, and it just seems to – to – it doesn't. spread, stay in us spreading to people for as long as Delta did. We're expecting, talking about numbers, they're expecting this surge that we're in the middle of right now to peak around late January, early February, and the numbers they're projecting are about 400,000 new cases a day in the U.S., which is, for reference, back in the January 2020 surge, which was the last really big one. It was about 250,000 new cases a day. So we're a lot higher than that is what they're expecting it to do. But most people are going to be largely asymptomatic and mild cases is what they're thinking. So let me ask you this. If all of that continues to hold, and of course, the stuff changes,
Starting point is 01:25:26 you know, you never know what the crap's happening. One minute to the next. People try to keep up. And then when you do, you move on to the next step or whatever. Does this mean that we could get to a place where because this is now the dominant strain that the dominant strain will perhaps mutate into other dominant strains where it's even less aggressive in the lungs and maybe spreads faster but more asymptomatic. And then the next version of it, you know what I'm saying? Like, is it going to water itself down to the point that that's where we see it go away? Because otherwise I keep hearing epidemiologists go, well, it's probably here to stay in some form. Yeah. But can it water itself down over time? Do we have any kind of like history of that in any other way to like say,
Starting point is 01:26:11 oh, it could do that? My non-expert opinion, so I'm caveating this because this is just based on things that I've read and opinions from other experts, but is that, or my non-expert thought and understanding is that yes, it will probably, if it's going to trend in any way, it will trend towards, like I said, faster spread and milder symptoms. But from what I hear, it's, it's looking like it's probably going to end up like a, like a flu level thing that's around here, that's around forever. It's endemic. The flu is endemic. It's always around every, it's going to be seasonal.
Starting point is 01:26:50 COVID is likely to be a seasonal thing that we just have to get vaccines for. And it'll, the flu also kills people. So it will probably still, COVID will probably still kill people and put people in the hospital. But it'll become something that we get better at managing. And, and that's the hope. at this point. So instead of flu season, we'll have COVID season. Well, we'll still have flu season. Or maybe just respiratory infection season. The joint flu, joint flu, COVID season. Yeah. COVID and flu, get in a car and party all winter is what they do. That's right.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Okay. Well, that's super interesting. I, it is impossible. This is one of the problems with, with the era we live in. And maybe this would be true of any era we are in. It's impossible to impossible to even say the word COVID without it being wildly divisive and it can be pretty extreme in every angle. Like I, you know, you've got your extreme people who think it's a hoax and made up or, you know, China made the virus or you can get even less complicated and just say, ah, I just not worried about it. I don't think it's important or I don't think it's dangerous. And then you've got on the other side where it's like even the mention of it means that you're misinforming somebody or um if you aren't wearing 12 masks everywhere you go in your own
Starting point is 01:28:06 house then you're part of the problem like these extremes are kind of the problem what we hope we gain from these COVID discussions in this segment on Tuesdays uh because COVID will come up here and there it's you know it's a big scientific topic it's kind of hard to avoid um we are we are trying to take the moderate approach the middle approach the take it all in do the best we can with what we have kind of approach. So I just want to put that out there. Everyone just calm down, you know? Everybody is sick of talking about it. I'm sick of talking about it. But the reason I do bring it up is whenever something pops up in the news that I think is going to get, like you said, is going to get people riled up and asking questions and wondering what the heck is going on. I figure,
Starting point is 01:28:47 well, at least talk about it and say what I think the facts are, you know, just so people have that. But yeah, the other thing that happened was the James Webb Space Telescope. got launched. Oh, yeah. That's very excited. Did that do anything yet? That's cool or did it just launch? No, it has not done anything except get into space. It's not even at its final destination yet. It's not even installed. It's been downloaded or uploaded, really, to the cloud. Yeah, it's in the cloud, sure. It's one way of looking at it. But it was launched on December, on Christmas, isn't that cool? It was supposed to be launched back in 2007. Whoa. That's a hell of a delay. yeah that's a long long delay it's um it's a what that's a 14 year delay which is like 30 years in ticot years right we learned that earlier in the episode yeah we still thought our new 360s were cool then we were getting red rings of death that year that's crazy yeah wow yeah it was
Starting point is 01:29:46 it started to get built in in 1996 so if if 2020 was 40 years ago then um the 1996 was 50 years ago, I think. Right. Well, that's cool. So when are we supposed to get something from it? So this space telescope, the way it's different than the Hubble, which is out there right now, the way this one is different is that it is going to be taking pictures in the infrared range.
Starting point is 01:30:15 And why that's really exciting is that infrared light can penetrate further through spacecraft like dust and particles and stuff in space. It's a longer wavelength, so it travels through things more easily. It doesn't get blocked by as much interference. And when you're looking at infrared light, you can technically see further back in time or further away, whichever way you want to talk about it, further away. Because as the universe expands, also everything in it expands, including everything in it expands, including, the wavelength, including light. So as light is traveling, it may,
Starting point is 01:31:01 visible light may have left a very distant galaxy a long, long time ago, but as it gets to us, over time, the visible light wave has expanded into a longer wavelength. And so right outside the visible light spectrum is infrared. So it allows us to see light that was further away when it left.
Starting point is 01:31:24 And I'm sure you've heard all the time that that literally, means that we can see further back in time. Yeah, right? To closer to when the... And I know that a lot of people like to maybe not really take that statement seriously because it sounds very poetic. I love it.
Starting point is 01:31:40 And it is kind of poetic. I do like it because there is a poetry to it. But it's literally allowing us to see what was going on further back in time. And that's one of the things that's exciting about this is we can see how older, much older galaxies were formed. Some of the first galaxies after the Big Bang, some of the very first galaxies and stars to form. We will actually be able to see that. We'll be able to observe different spectra of light coming out of planets' atmospheres. So maybe we'll get to, it'll be easier for us to detect signs of life on other planets. And it's just amazing.
Starting point is 01:32:27 It's going to be so far away. That's why it hasn't gotten there yet. It's from the launch, it's going to take like 30 days of corrective burns. So, like, they have to correct the trajectory of the telescope as it goes out. It's going 1.5 million kilometers away from Earth, which is actually about four times further than the moon. Oh, geez. So way, way, way, way. Well, plus, then you've got to wake Ripley up.
Starting point is 01:32:54 She's going to feel sick. You go to the galley. Would you guys quit waking me up for this? Yeah, and then Bishop does the knife thing. We're not waiting. She'll be in her underwear the whole time. Okay, good. Good.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Well, that solves it. Let me ask you this. Like, when I see a star blink out in the night, I'm kind of seeing the past, right? Sort of? Yes. So technically, your eyeballs can also see further back in time because the stars that you see,
Starting point is 01:33:20 that light left a long, long time ago. But this can detect light from way further away so it can see just even further back. This telescope is actually technically not an orbit around the Earth, although it'll be staying with the Earth the entire 5 to 10 years that's going to be up there. It's technically going to be an orbit around the sun, but it's at a point called the L2 point,
Starting point is 01:33:44 which is a, it's just a stable place in orbit around the sun where it'll stay with the Earth the whole time that it's there because we want it to stay as close. Like we want it to stay the same distance away from us if we can help it so that the light, like the signals from the satellite will get to us faster, you know. We basically have made a 3D spreadsheet of space, right? We've done that.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Haven't we done that? Where it's like... I think so. That makes sense. Yeah. Like L4. It's like, okay, well, let's see column L. Half of my cells, though, say question mark N-A-N.
Starting point is 01:34:16 And I don't know what that means. You drug something when you shouldn't have for something. Exactly. I accidentally copied the wrong formula and the wrong cell. and this one's the run, this one's text, this one's a number. They'll just make a space macro and fix it all in one shot. Exactly, yes. Well, this is all very exciting.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I want to see what that thing produces. It's going to be amazing. It really is. I've seen pictures of like certain nebula in the visible spectrum, and then they have taken pictures from Earth of the same nebula using infrared. And it's like 20 times more stars that you can see because the visible light gets blocked by all the space dust in the nebula. But it
Starting point is 01:34:59 makes it, the infrared light makes it through. And so you can see so much stuff. Yeah. So it's going to be very exciting. And, oh, the last thing, though, that I'll say about this telescope is that they still don't know if it's good. There are, there are more than 300 points of
Starting point is 01:35:15 failure from launch to taking the pictures. That sounds like just a typical week for me. You're a 300 point. failure kind of guy. Your points of failure, yeah. Tina documents them all, actually.
Starting point is 01:35:29 She keeps her own 3D spread seat. All the NASA scientists are extremely nervous because it's not an exaggeration to say, I've heard them say this, it's not an exaggeration to say that if this thing does not successfully deploy, that's like hundreds, if not thousands of astronomers', you know, future plans for their scientific careers are just over. Yeah. They're counting on this thing. That's like a whole, it's like three hours.
Starting point is 01:36:01 It's like three hours of Jeff Bezos pay down the drain. That's what that is. Just gone. Where will we get that money again? And if it doesn't work, it's so far away that we can't repair it. It just will be done. Like, if it doesn't work, they're just like, oh, well, I guess that was $10 billion down the toilet.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Yeah. I mean, that's the thing with these things, right? That's why they take the time they take. That's why the delays happen. They just want to make sure. It's why it's been delayed more than 10 years. Yeah, because something little happens and they have to fix it. That's why it was originally, like recently going to launch in the middle of December,
Starting point is 01:36:36 but there was like, they're so careful with this that it was going to launch, I think, on December 16th. And while they were transporting it, they hit like a speed bump too hard or something. Like, it just jostled. Oh, that sucks. They couldn't detect. It didn't look like there was anything wrong, but it was. they're so careful with this, they said, well, we have to take an entire extra week and a half
Starting point is 01:37:00 to make sure, or an entire extra week to make sure that nothing happened. And fortunately, it didn't. But that's the type of care that they have to take with this. That's some, that's some earth bullshit right there, man. Freaking speed bump. Ugh. I hate it. I mean, there's a, it's a nice euphemism, you know, to say, oh, we hit a couple speed bumps. That's why we're, and usually just mean those metaphorically, but not in this case. Yeah, literally. Yeah, Darryl pushed the car a little too hard around that corner and had a bump. We should be in a state that isn't Alabama. I like that it's Darrell.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Well done. A name just came to my head. All right. Well, Bobby is always in Lightning Stuff. There is more of this to be had on your podcast. Tell people where they can get it. The podcast is called All Around Science. Just search for it and you'll find it.
Starting point is 01:37:48 We talk about all sorts of stuff like this, weekly science news. and we just did a roundup of all the stuff that we missed in 2021, including the first ever pig to human kidney transplant was successful this year. So we talked about that. I hear that some pig. Hey, that is some pig. That'll do, pig. That'll do when they gave his kidney up.
Starting point is 01:38:13 All right. Well, that's very cool. I actually want to hear more about that. If you're ever short on stories, I'd like to hear about the pig kidney here on Tuesdays. It's Bobby Franks. everybody. Have a fantastic week and a happy new year. Yeah, we'll see you next week. Bye now. All right. Good stuff. There's a rat, though. That's, you know, not very happy about the pig situation. No, never.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Played by Charles Nelson Riley back in the day. Paul Lind, I think. Was it Paul Lind? Oh, I thought it was. I thought I was. Let's look it up because I... You might be right. I mix those two guys up. Yeah. What was I called? Paul Lynn, Templeton. very much. Well done. Well done. And Henry Gibson from the Burbs was Wilbur. Hold on. Who was the dinosaur in toy story? That was Charles Nelson Riley. Right? Oh, really? Okay. Was it? Oh, no, no, no. The dinosaur is Wallace Sean.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Oh, shit. You're right. Yeah. Why am I thinking of Charles Nelson Riley at all? I don't know. I don't know. Because he's your top right match game square right next to Brett Summers. I guess so. I put blank. Those were good times. All right, hey, before we go, quick email from this listener, Lee, who wrote in, says, I thought I would share an observation with you.
Starting point is 01:39:36 You guys were talking about HBO or on, you were talking about an HBO show the other day. How to, the one with John Wilson. John Wilson. Yeah. So I started watching it, and it's great. One of Scott's biggest recollections from season one was the episode of the guy on the bed having his foreskin pulled with a rope. Well, I got to that episode last night. Another actor that Scott really liked until you saw his penis. Yeah, that guy I'll never be able to get out of my mind. He says, I got to that
Starting point is 01:40:02 episode last night, and the end of that segment is the guy laying there with his privates being stretched and talking about how great the movie Parasite was. Maybe there's a subconscious reason Scott can't hit play on that movie, just a thought, Lee. That is an interesting parallel, you associate the movie Parasite with a guy getting his foreskin yanked on by a chain and pulley system. I wonder if that's it. I actually never considered it, but now I need to, well, now I need to push through and watch Parasite, so I don't have to think about that guy anymore. Before somebody pulls on your testicles. Yeah, nobody wants that. Hey, that's going to do it for today's show. I'd like to thank a few patrons for supporting the show, though, as we narrow down the month and year here. Big thanks goes out to Cy Rohan Humphrey, awesome name.
Starting point is 01:40:49 first of all. He's at the grade A level. Sean at the grade A level. And of course, John Norris at the grade A plus level. Thank you all for your support at patreon.com slash TMS. Without you, we don't have a show. So thank you guys very much. And consider joining. If you guys haven't, that's at patreon.com slash TMS. Again, tomorrow, 8 a.m. one hour. Weird, compressed, new, different format tomorrow. Okay. Just one day only. We'll be back Thursday with a normal one. But that's the plan tomorrow. So be here. or be square. That's it.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Brian, you got anything else? You good? I got nothing else. Okay. I'm really excited about all of our recommendals tomorrow. It's going to be a fun episode. Oh, well, I'm excited about that as well.
Starting point is 01:41:36 Well, leave us with a song, will you? I'll leave you with a song. Stephanie in our chat room goes by Stephanie in a bit... Because it's a palindrome, right? It's the same forward and backward. She says, hello, strawberry. Pop-Tart and Blow Torch. It's Stephanie Inipetz.
Starting point is 01:41:52 And this message is from my amazing husband, Kylie K. See, because it's also reversed, Kylie K. Oh, I see. December 27th yesterday was his birthday, and as per tradition, I'm requesting a song for a special day. It's always so hard to come up with something sappy and sweet for these requests, because I feel like there's always so much to say. Kyle has been in my life since we were teenagers,
Starting point is 01:42:13 and I can still remember the first birthday party of his that I attended in 2008. Remember Dylan's blue pants? That'll never be unseen. And for the folks at home, it's because they were blue. I've had so many fun memories with Kyle, and we have countless inside jokes like Starbucks, but it wasn't really Starbucks when we saw Jaws in an open field, running through sprinklers on a cold October night,
Starting point is 01:42:34 and never forget, we quite literally stared into each other's eyes for over eight hours. I'm not kidding. Oh, my gosh. What was the end point? What was the end game there? What was that for? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Yeah, who lost that staring contest? She says, this song is for you. I'm hoping the covermaster will find a cover of the iconic song 555 by Jimmy Eat World. I didn't. If that doesn't work, then any cover except the middle. My God, not the middle by Jimmy Eat World will do. Love you so much, Kyle. And here's to another year older, even though you still look the same as you did when we first met.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Not fair. Your love, Stephanie. Happy birthday to you. In a happy new year. go. Oh, that's perfect because we're getting a new year. That's good. Oh, yeah. No kidding. Well, well-timed. All right. So, listen, I could not find a cover of 555. Nobody covers that song. If you look on secondhand songs.com, nobody covers that song. And I avoided the middle, even though 95% of the covers of the cover of Jimmy World and my library are covers of the middle. So let's play sweetness, because that's a nice song. It's a sweet cover. this is the Tokyo Police Club from their album 10 by 10 by 10 in 2011 in that year they covered 10 songs by 10 different artists
Starting point is 01:43:55 and released it as a great album this is Sweetness featuring Michael what's the full name McDonald's Michael Angelacos Michael Angelacos of Passion Pit on vocals Here is Sweetness by Tokyo Police Club Are you listening Whoa
Starting point is 01:44:19 Sing it back Whoa Stream from your tether on wines Oh I'm a too bad. I'm a too fine. Oh, oh. I was spinning a free world with a little sweet and simple nominee.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Are you listening? Whoa So tell me what do I need Tell me what do I need Oh Oh Well in Wurzley's than me Whoa
Starting point is 01:45:27 Oh Oh I was spinning free Whoa With the little sweet simple numbing me yes don't see you crawl
Starting point is 01:45:48 sinking into sweet uncertainty me. If you're listening, whoa, I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm listening to sing it back, whoa, because I'm still running away. Whoa Oh Go Play your high and see
Starting point is 01:47:00 games Oh Oh Oh Oh I'm spinning free Oh Oh
Starting point is 01:47:10 With a little sweet And simple Noun in me We put a Disney dance Oh Oh I love sweetness will not be concerned with me.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I love sweetness will not be concerned with me. Oh, I love sweetness will not be concerned with me. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Was I bad?

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