The Morning Stream - TMS 2231: Regrexit

Episode Date: January 13, 2022

I don't like naked trapEEEEEEZ! Two Smoking Barrels and a Monkey. 1-Adam-12, We Have A Snorlax In Progress At Fifth & Main! Who killed Arnold Palmer? Taco Bell Fever Dreams. Mark Rober. The McGruber we need. ALWAYS THE FRENCH! Go Runs Uphill, Goo Runs Downhill! I'm Not Going There For Tubesteak!! Hey it's my white sister. What Was That Question About Focus Again? Cockney Rhyming Deficit Disorder. Rogue Pit Sweat. Read This, with Amy! Street Ritalin and MORE with Wendi and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Always the French. Goo runs uphill. Goo runs downhill. I'm not going there for tube steak. Hey, it's my white sister. What was that question about focus again? Cockney rhyming deficit disorder. Rogue pit sweat.

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I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Hi, Brian. How are you? Hi, Scott. Hold on. I'm right into my calendar. Okay. January 13th, 70s style version of opening theme. Okay, good. All right. Good. I'm good. I'm good. Before you know it, I'll freak you out and go. You'll be like, what? Oh, yeah. What is that? I don't know what that is. That one, too. Yeah. I haven't played the bow in a long time. I don't even know where that is. I don't even have it out. But, uh, yeah, we're, uh, we're back. It's TMS. It's, uh, January 13th. It's, uh, the year is 22 and we're here, uh, you know, just, just barreling into the month, just making it work.

Yeah. I mean, you know, we're, we're almost halfway through January and, uh, yeah, all right, I'll, I'll jump on the, I'm in disbelief bandwagon about how quickly this month is already going. Yeah. You know, time goes the same speed all the time. There's no, there's no, there's no switch that makes to go faster, slower, whatever. Yeah. But, uh, goo, goo runs uphill, goo runs downhill.

I don't know what that means, but it feels like it fits. Uh, time is an unstoppable force. And here we are. That's right. Being forced by it forward. Uh, it's good to be back,

everybody. It is, uh, you know, you're a normal Thursday business. My sister will be here later. I got stuff from her, get some stuff with Amy coming up. Fun stuff.

But before we do anything. Dream time. You ready for this? Get the cards. Get the cards. Get the cards. Dream time. Well,

I looked in the cards. there's nothing in there even close to this. So yesterday, and you're in it. That's why this is great. You're in my dream. Oh, God. All right. I took a very short 20 minute nap because I slept so bad the night before that I just

was like, I need to lay down for a minute. So I hopped on the couch, bought one of the dogs with me, curled up, beautiful 20 minutes, set an alarm, like wake me in 20, boom. Good, good. I wake up in 20, and I have the following memory of the following dream. Brian was in the dream, and here's how it went. We were in, like, a three-ring circus sort of set up. Except it didn't feel like a tent.

It felt like a giant warehouse with huge ceilings. More like a... Like a Cirque Soleil kind of show? Yeah, but the space was like a hanger almost, like something they'd use on MythBusters to do a test in there or something like that. Oh, okay, gotcha. Just really, like, a place you could keep like a big jumbo jet or something like that. And there's a trapeze thing, you know, which is like swinging back and forth.

And the only person on that trapeze, the entire time this is going on, is Brian Ibbett, and he is naked on the trapeze swinging. All right? So you're up there just going, wee, and you're not saying anything. You're just swinging back and forth, completely butt naked. You got this look on your face. Like Brian's got a happy resting face, right? He's just chilling. he doesn't you just having you know hey there's a guy that looks like he's having a good time kind of

face that's the face you've got on all right just swinging so so really i mean just a calm face while i'm swinging on a trapeze naked like i'm not i'm not uh it's not my not my struggling face or my thinking about drabbing the next trapeze face it's like no it's just hey i'm up here i'm swinging so that was number number one weird thing number two i'm down at the bottom By the way, was I doing this over an open cocktail on a bar that you were drinking? No. How about that for a callback from like six to seven years ago? Yeah, what was the Chinese or the Japanese place you went or something?

No, it was a bar in Vegas called Rum Jungle, where after a certain time, you'd get trapeze artists going back and forth across the ceiling over the bar while you're sitting there having a drink. Gross. And you were very worried about pubic hairs falling off of those people through their leotards. into your open, open drink. Or even just somebody who's like a little bead of sweat escapes one of their pits and falls into the sky and lands in your drink. No, thank you.

But anyway, so I'm down below. So you're swinging. I'm down below fighting a lion with a broom. And by broom, I mean like a kitchen broom. Didn't make any sense. It's not going to do any good. But I'm down there going, I like trying to stop a lion from getting at me.

So still we're very much in the circus mode. apparently they're not safe for you or safe for work circus mode because Brian's up there naked. But anyway. Yeah, being a swinger, of course. So that's going on. And then Laura Palmer was there.

Now before you think, oh, Laura Palmer from, what's the show? Quinn Peaks. Quinn Peaks. The wrapped in plastic, all that. No, this was her head on Arnold Palmer's body. The golf.

What? Yeah. Okay. Laura Palmer's head on. So Cheryl Lee, the actress who played Laura Palmer's head on Arnold Palmer's body. Was he talking to Kevin Neal about erectile dysfunctional? No, no, but she was.

She was dead-faced like she always was in Twin Peaks. So she was always, so she just kind of, you know, kind of pale and her eyes are open and stuff. And she never makes any other expression. But her body and her, you know, whatever, she's moving around and it's Arnold Palmer's body. How do you know what Arnold Palmer's body looks like without all Arnold Palmer's body? his head on top of it. It's like a golfer guy with a golf shirt and a, and khaki golf pants and golf shoes. Like he looks like he does on the cover of, you know, a video game he'd be in. Golf digest. Yeah. You know, just kind of walking around looking for whatever. So he's just walking

around with a golf club in his hand, just walking around being Laura Palmer, a combo of Laura Palmer and Arnie Palmer in the same body. Weird. It was really weird. So I have no. Okay, let me start this. The only explanation of any of this here is that I know you so you being in the dream maybe isn't that unusual no that part that part makes sense that's it what else is not nothing else is the only part of it that makes sense I mean the trapeze what uh what could the trapeze represent like me being on a trapeze yeah what does that represent and then you fighting in lion I mean there's there has to be some symbolism you're like you're you're you're going up against something very difficult with um unprepared with the wrong implements to go against it.

So the broom against the lion feels like, all right, well, that seems like some stress symbolism, like you're having a hard time. Right. I don't have the right tool for as big of the problem is or something like that. Right, exactly. I can see that. I could see that.

But then how do you explain naked you on the trapeze? Yeah. I can't find a parallel. I can't find a connection. Like, no, there were no phallic symbols dropped. and the chat ass, there was nothing like that. By the way, I mean, in the, in the realm of how I'd like my friends to see me naked, that, you know, an upshot, like looking up at me on a trapeze,

has to be near the very bottom of that list. Yeah. I mean, I have to admit, I don't, I'm not full of detail here. I don't have like, uh, hey, that's great. As long as maybe you, maybe in your dream stuff was pixelated out. That's probably for the best. yeah do you know this um what was it do you know this this is terrible but we were talking about the the righteous gemstones the other day you and i were talking about recommendals and stuff

and he'd recommend it and i'd forgotten and blah blah blah anyway i started finally watching that show here and there and uh just the first season uh it's so damn it's really good what a great cast completely surprised me how well judy alone is she steals every scene she's in yeah i i tweeted out uh she was actually the only one i think they responded but i tweeted out to Judy and, oh, the gal from the first season of Fargo, the TV show, the woman cop, not Carrie Coon, but anyway, tweet out to the two of them saying some of the best, some of the best unintentional humor on TV or unaware humor, and she tweeted back and said, thank you or something. Oh, that's really nice. Well, she's very freaking funny. God, she's hilarious.

Um, but, uh, anyway, so I'm watching that thing and what was my point? I had a point with us. Oh, oh, okay. You know the scene, yeah, so when they find the, they're getting blackmailed by that tape, right? So, uh, so, uh, you know, they're, uh, Jesse, the character Jesse is, is shown snorting coke and there's a bunch of naked ladies around. And then at one point, I don't remember the character's name, but the bald white guy that's in on all this is standing there just naked. and then there's a there's a scene where Jesse's explaining this on a giant projection screen

and the whole time you're just looking at that dude's doodle I can't think of him in that's right so that's what I'm that's what I'm that's what I'm perceived

Brian's just up there with his doodle out that's what it was all right okay that's probably what it is wow all right so maybe that pulled from the show naked bald guy sure

sure sure maybe I don't know I don't know why I'm fighting a lion Maybe the lion is COVID, and I have very few tools to fight it with. I got my crappy little vaccination stick over here, which is a broom in the dream. And maybe that's what that is. I don't know. But the Laura Palmer bit.

The Palmer Oreo that you've created, the Palmer Smoor that you've built in your head. Dead lady's head, live man's body. And he's actually dead. So that's weird. And then he's walking around. He's not saying anything. He's got a golf club. you won't even see that as a circus the other two things maybe like you could go to a

maybe uh the uh the jim rose uh circus side show thing that had the enigma and uh yeah do you remember those guys the like the super tattooed puzzle piece guy and uh the guy who could lift cinder blocks with his nipples and stuff like that they're not still around are they i love that stuff but that's not the thing yeah i don't know yeah people can only take that so much i think and then you got to move on. Yeah, you saw those guys on X-Piles. I thought, oh, that was weird. And I found out, oh, no, that's an actual traveling circus show that comes to town. Did they have a Vegas residency at any point? It seems like a thing. They had to have, right? I'm figuring that, you know, someplace off-strip, for sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Those are dark tickets.

Friendlies casino on Coval Avenue. Yeah, we're nestled between two sex shops and a... Coval and Tropicana. Yeah, you got to watch out. us from the Kiss-branded miniature golf course. Yeah. Yeah. That's the part of Vegas we're talking about, folks. Anyway, so there's that. And, you know, I just thought I'd share it.

Yeah, if anyone at home as any ideas. Did you have for lunch? Right before your nap, by the way. I had... Weird for lunch? I had Taco Bell wings, again, because you told me they were going away yesterday. I had to get another set. And my free taco of the day. So I did have... You had lunch after two. Look at you.

I ate late. Yes. It was very late. And I had to hurry because... is, let's see, when did that, so wait, hold on, the nap happened late because I had Tom at two, so I ate right before Tom, and then two o'clock was Daily Tech News Show, and then I did that until whenever that ended, and that's when I went to lay down for a while. Interesting. So it was a late kind of lunchy thing, and it was, you know, Taco Bell two days in a row. Maybe that's enough to F you up, I don't know, but it says here, you also got those Taco Bell wings.

I did. I went and got those wings yesterday and, oh my God, they were so good. They are, so let's clarify. I mean, these are not your buffalo wild wings like gently tossed in sauce kind of thing. These are deep fried within an inch of their lives to buffalo wings. Oh, yeah. Crispy as crispy gets, for sure. Crispy as crispy gets. And it's right there in the name, crispy buffalo wings. Yeah. but they were so damn good. And then you get a little bit of like a, like a ranch,

Southwest Ranch kind of sauce to dip them in and stuff. Yeah, it's good. Team and I split a box of them. And we're, were we supposed to get six or five? Does it come with five or six? Oh, you know what? I have the box here.

Let's see if it says. I don't know. Does your box, oh, do you have a box that's more than just a, just a square piece of cardboard? Oh, it is a square piece of cardboard. Oh, yeah, yeah, you'll be the same box, yeah. Yeah, because I guess they're doing, this was just a test, so they'll probably, if this goes big, they'll have real, you know. Yeah, count the bones.

Open it up, no, just kidding. Okay, so I-Corps says five. All right, so it was supposed to be five. There are five bones in this box. That's it, five. There we go. I was kidding about counting the bones. I did.

They were right there. Because I was going to complain to Mr. Bell that we only got five wings when I thought we were supposed to get six. Reginald F. Bell is his name, and he is a real weaner when it comes to. giving people less than they bought they paid for but i'm glad you liked him i isn't it weird though they shouldn't be good it is weird they shouldn't be good but and you know they're good because they're just deep fried to hell i mean you you you know Seinfeld had it right when he told Newman you'd eat uh anything what was it was like you'd eat a zucchini deep fried or something like that there was some some line on Seinfeld during the uh Kenny rogers roasters episode

yeah because he wouldn't eat the vile weed he wouldn't eat the um is that the same episode yeah Yeah, because I think they had deep-fried veggies. Kenny Rogers had deep-fried ochre or something. Yeah, yeah. And he tried to get him to eat broccoli and he says, I'll eat it, no problem. He starts to eat it, and then he freaked out and yelled vile weed and spit it out. It was great.

It was a great time. Exactly. Well, hey, Taco Bell, if you're listening, I hope this becomes a thing. That'd be great. Make it, make it permanent. Make it permanent. Do you wouldn't eat broccoli if you'd be. It was deep fried in chocolate sauce.

That was the phrase. There it is. That's a good one. All right. Hey, you guys, are you reading any books at home? Because if you're not, I have ideas for what you could do. We have the suggestion for you. Boy, howdy, is that the truth?

So we're going to add Red Fraggle, aka Amy Robinson. Let's bring you the Amy Slideshow. That's right. It's going to be good. Let's see what we got. I don't know if I have. Where's her thing? Oh, no?

Yeah. Hey, look what it is. It's time for read this with Amy Robinson. Yeah, that's right. Cuddle up and get next to us in your little beanbag chair at the local library. And let's find out what Mrs. Robinson brought with her today. Hello, Amy. Well, cuckoo, Coo, good morning to you guys. Oh, very nice. Cuckoo Coo, back to you. That all rhymes. That's very nice. Hey, it's good to have you back. I assume your appointment meant well. I didn't want to mess you up this morning with timing and stuff. Well, yes, it's great. If I get a little horse during my segment here, I apologize because I had a therapy appointment. So I could just get like a jumbo dose of therapy between, you know, this and Wendy later. So anyway, I've been talking for an hour straight. And so if I get a little horse, that's...

Maybe you're just warmed up. Maybe you're, we should do that here. Brian and I should be yelling into our pillows before we do a show or something like that. You know? I've heard... Scream therapy. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard if you, you know, you get that low, you get that deeper register, the more you yell at stuff.

And then you eventually sound like, you know, Howard Stern or somebody. You could probably do that. In my case, you get the, you get the nice Kathleen Turner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Smoker voice. Yeah. She's interesting now.

Anyway, hey, you're back. I don't want to get too deep into where she's at these days. She's fine, I'm sure, I guess. I don't know. Whatever. What is she doing? We don't know. We should find out how she's doing.

Someone got eyes on Kathleen Turner because I hope she's all right. Hey, Amy, so let's get into it. I'm still reading this Stormlight Archive, so I'm very busily just trying to get through a massive thick book right now. But I write down everything you recommend. And I'm sure you've got something cool this week. So lay it on us. What do you got?

Yeah, so I too am very busy. I'll go ahead and tell you guys, I'm super excited because my husband got me. the Mark Grober engineering class for Christmas. Yeah. So I am like doing all these cool little basic mechanical engineering lessons and stuff like that. So I'm probably getting through that. What?

McGruber, really? Wow. Mark rober. You know, he's the guy that did the glitter bomb thing. The glitter bomb, yeah. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah.

He had a new one this year that was fantastic. Like louder siren and more fart spray. Oh, so good. Oh, this is the guy that did the giant. t-shirt canon i heard about this year or something right this is that guy he did he did that it was like the world's biggest t-shirt canon he did that it's like a jimmy camel thing he has like a the scorel agility course yep yep all that stuff same guy um so yeah he teaches a an engineering class and and so yeah you don't get like one-on-one face time with him at least i haven't so far

but there are all these really cool instructional videos and then there's a little community you go and like share your your ideas and bounce it off people and get feedback and stuff. So that is what I've been spending a lot of my free time doing. So I decided to kind of go back in my archives of stuff I've read for this week. And somebody mentioned online that they had never read anything by Neil Gaiman. So I have decided to recommend some Neil Gaiman. My favorite single book, meaning no sequels, just stand-alone novel is American Gods.

Like, forget about the TV show a long time ago when I read the book. That book's still my favorite standalone book I ever read. So whoever's, whoever that is, go ahead. Nancy Boys or Anasazi Boys or whatever. Isn't that the sequel to it, though, or is, no. It's a spin-off, like an off-shooth. Okay. Yeah, I still haven't read that.

I heard it was good, though. I haven't either. But American Gods was fantastic. So good. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so the book I was going to recommend

this time I was going to go all the way back and recommend NeverWare. If you haven't read NeverWare, it's fantastic. And I'm really into kind of recommending books that have multiple ways for you to consume them at this point, because there is a fantastic BBC radio dramatization of NeverWare. And it's got James McAvoy and Benedict Cumberbatch. and it's it is absolutely so entertaining and wonderful then also you can obviously read the book I think it was made into a television show back in the 90s also so um but yeah never even heard of this I thought this was uh well I guess there's a new print of it on Amazon that says 2021 but I

don't know why I've not heard of this book is that old like 90s 80s yeah never where was his first novel uh following the Sandman series so yeah it's it's really really very good uh it's basically a kind of fish out of water type story where you get your the main character is your normal guy he's you know he's us and then he gets sucked into this the world of london below and uh and there's an entire just subculture of you know wonderful fantasy stuff going on under the streets of london that nobody knows about except the people who know about it and he gets just sucked into this world and so you get to go on this journey with him and it's fantastic and the tube stations are all literal so like kings cross

has kings actual kings and uh yep wow wow i love this this sounds great why do i just don't know why i haven't heard of it i'm annoyed that i haven't heard of it it bugs me well it is it is fantastic and i can tell you like i i don't know anybody that likes anything fantasy related that doesn't like this book if they've read it. It is really excellent. And I always think about there's this one creature in the book. It's this very sort of, you know, attractive lady. And she seduces men to come in.

And then like, but she's very, very cold. And essentially that's what she does is she steals their warmth. And then ultimately they get stuck down there and then they die or whatever. But I always think of that when I put my. cold feet on my husband at night in the bed. That's great. I didn't realize there was a, like you were saying, the James McAvoy Cumberbatch thing. I had no idea.

There was a, um, yeah, I didn't either. Like a radio, a radio version. I tried watching the TV show and. Well, the TV show's got those same people in it. Um, I'm looking at the trailer right now. McAvoy's in it. I just saw Natalie Dormers in it. Um, I haven't seen.

The TV show or the, the, because that was, or whatever the video version is. I'm looking at the BBC. Let's see. Oh, okay. The BBC radio thing is, so they're, they're, oh, interesting. Okay, so that's different than the TV show that came out in 1996. I thought this was like a, kind of like the BBC radio redid the Star Wars and Hitchhiker's Guide. There's Camberidge.

Where they added a bunch of stuff. Well, I guess Hitchhiker's Guide was a radio thing before it was a book, but where they redid Star Wars and added a bunch of stuff. That's what I thought this was. So this is actually a video thing. Yeah, I think so, because I just saw Commervarez. batch at the end, although they saved him for the end. I don't know what that means, but his character shows up at the very end of this trailer. It looks like that exact cast, and maybe they just took the audio from that and made a thing? I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe. I don't know. I'm not actually familiar with the, you know, with the full video version of it, but I have listened to, I have Audible, which is where you can get the audio version of it. And I definitely recommend checking that out because it is, it's really engaging. It's really good. you're not an audiobook type person, this is not that. This is like, it's a radio play. It's a, you know, they've got full folly and they're, you know, it's not, it's not a one person reading a book and narrating it and having to affect different voices. It's literally different actors. And it is absolutely great. See, that's a thing I want to see. Apparently, Scott,

you were seeing a trailer for the, for the radio play is what people are saying in chat. Oh, well, it's all like costumes and like sets and stuff. That's crazy. I wonder why they went to that much trouble. That is odd that they would go dress so much for... Yeah, it's not them just sitting around microphones. It's like a... I don't know. They're all acting and running and there's like sets and like special effects and stuff.

I don't know what they're doing. Maybe they did both. But I'm looking at Goodreads list of best Neil Gaiman books. And they have Neverwheres number one by rating on Goodreads as the best thing he ever wrote. I can't believe I'm like this dumb. I had never even heard of it before. American Gods number two, graveyard book number three. in Stardust at 4.

I also love Stardust, and that movie's better than it should be. Do you ever see that Stardust movie? It doesn't exactly adhere to the book 100%, but Stardust is all right. It's a pretty good time. I liked it. I've seen it all the way through. I've seen parts of it, but I don't know how I'm, I think it was one of those things that I missed it when it came out and then just never caught it again.

But yeah, I think my husband has mentioned that he likes Stardust as well, so I think I'll have to go check that out. Are you excited about the Sandman series coming to? I forget who's getting it. Netflix, I think. Yes, very. I keep seeing that show up, you know, in my, all my social media feeds every once in a while. They'll feed me an ad for that.

And I'm like, yes. I'm pretty excited about that. And there's one other on here that I really like. Where is it? I really like Coraline. Both the book and the adaptation are very awesome. But yeah. What interesting about Coraline is I actually saw.

that movie first because I'm obsessed with stop motion animation and I love all the Lika Studios movies. I just dig them. I really, really enjoy their stuff. And so I saw Coraline first before I read the book and after I saw Coraline I was like, oh wow. You know, it's animated and so it's a little scary but it's not super scary but I thought yish reading the book I might be a little too freaked out. I found the movie actually scarier than the book.

Oh, way more. Yeah, way more. I was like, oh, okay, we're done already. We've already beat the other mother. All right. Cool. You know, whereas the movie, they really fleshed out a lot more of that, that suspense. Yeah, the book, the book feels more like a fairy tale, a traditional fairy tale, and the movie feels like, because you can add that visual element and, you know, like a studios with their freaking weird ideas for how those characters are designed, the buttons for their eyes, all that stuff. just really added like a creepy factor to it that I really appreciate but yeah the tone is definitely different in the film version of it but no gaming he's awesome all right so

never where available wherever you get your books I guess there is a brand new printing a new paperback version yeah there's a like the author's preferred text version is that what it says the author's preferred text version came out in 2005 so I know what that means like the director's cut of a book basically yeah that's neat I guess we when you become Neil Gaiman, you can go back to your earlier work and say, I did not want to cut that, but that editor made me do it. So I'm Neil Gaiman now, so I can put that back in. Yeah, you get to do whatever he wants to do.

So, yeah, find out what I didn't know all these years, and that is, there's a book called Neverwhere. Totally checking out that, the BBC radio, audio drama thing. That looks so cool. So hold on a second. Definitely recommend it. It calls this book, Neverwhere, and then in parentheses, London Below Number One. Does that mean there were sequels to this? And it just never...

See, I don't see any sequels. So maybe this... I don't remember any sequels to it. Yeah, I don't think it ever materialized. But I think that there are plans to resurrect it and make it into more of a series. Maybe after they're done with Sandman, make it something more like what they did with American gods. Where, you know, they sort of wrapped up the story of American gods in the first season, right? And then they had to do more.

So similar to... Good Omen's, right? They told the entire story of Good Omen's in that first season and now everybody's like, oh, do we get more? Do we get more? Yeah, and they're doing more. I don't know how that's going to be. Yeah. Because they are out of the canon now and they'll be making their own story.

And he still has an executive producer slot with that. So I assume he'll have some say and, you know, I don't know where that thing goes creatively, but I'm curious about it. Let's see. New episodes this year looks like Good Omen's two, they call it, on Prime Video.

coming soon to a streaming platform near you yeah and just to kind of clarify so yeah so um the BBC radio drama broadcast was in 2013 that's the one with McAvoy and Dormer and Cumberbatch and then they were saying that they were going to bring that as a new version of the TV a new TV adaptation but I can't find any I can't find anything about the new TV adaptation so you're right Scott looks like uh they turned that audio the audio-only version with that cast, which explains why you saw a video of them walking around in sets and costumes and stuff like that.

But I can't find any other... I wonder if it's still... I mean, that was 1996, or no one was this? 2005. Yeah. Oh, no, 2013 was the radio broadcast. But that was almost 10 years ago and I haven't found anything about the new TV.

Well, I will say this. The way it was filmed looked like Baker-era Doctor Who Oh, really? Yeah, like crappy. Because that's what I thought the old 96 version looked like was that weird soap opera looking. Yeah.

Where lights smear funny and, you know, it's just looks like you're using a video camera from the 80s sort of thing. BBC for you. They don't, they spend a lot more on, I think, actors and story. And then they're like, eh, effects, whatever. Yeah. Their production stuff isn't always... Well, they can't all be that. Who made two smoking barrels and a monkey?

Guy Ritchie. Guy Ritchie. Guy Ritchie's pretty good with the visuals. He's all right. But he broke the mold over there, I guess. All right, well, this is great. As usual, you can find this book just about anywhere. And, Amy, you should tell people where they can find you and keep better track of where Amy Robinson is these days.

Yes. So I am Red Fraggle 3 on Twitter. And that's the three is spelled out there. I'm also red fraggle three, but with the number on TikTok. And I'm, like I said, I'm absolutely still going to do that TikTok series with the puppets. But right now, I didn't know my husband was going to give me a whole, you know, project to do for Christmas. So that's what's, you know, involving my time right now. But that, that puppet series will be coming.

Yeah, looking forward to that very much. Take it easy, and we'll see you next Thursday. Bye now. All right. Cool. We did it, Brian. We did it. And now.

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You got a van. A van just drove up. Hi, you want to say something? You want to say something? Go ahead. You can say stuff. Did you bring dinoes? Let me see your dinoes.

Do you have a dino? What are you doing, dude? Do you have any dragons? You say hello? Hi. Say, hey, hi, Brian. Why are you all nervous? He's all nervous.

He's never nervous. All right, here, you want to go in? I'll see you soon, okay? Because there's a weird bald guy staring at him. Careful, that thing's hot. Okay. A weird trapeze artist. I forgot.

We were getting him to, He just really wanted to hug that mic right up into his face, though. Yes, he did. All right. Which please teach him proper microphone technique, Scott. Come on. Hall of Fame podcaster. Teach the boys some proper mic.

Yeah, I was inducted into the Hall of Fame, and they're going to take that away for me if I don't get on this. So hurry up, Scott. By the way, they just announced they're going to be doing the 2022 slate, and it's back to the, hey, we're acknowledging the other people who've gotten inducted into the podcasting Hall of Fame. We're not trying to start a brand new one. And look, here's everybody else.

Ah, so they caved from the pressure. So they put up that big site that's got, you know, everybody on stage except for you and Leo Leport. Yeah. Phoneing it in. Phoneing it in. Me and Leo Leport. Look at the unit. Leo Leport.

The big unit on us. That's right. Whatever. Jenny did such a good job. I don't always be grateful for what she did that here. All right. Look at this. Snoop Dog.

You know Snoop Dog? You know, Snoop Dog? I'm familiar with Snoop Dog. Yeah. He's busily. usually just hanging out with his, with his good pal. What's her name? The cook lady. Can't think of her name. Martha Stewart. I can't think of names today.

He's planning a hot dog brand called Snoop Dogs. I just don't understand why it took so long, but here we are. Six years after saying he ain't never eaten a mother effing hot dog again, famously. Snoop Dog is apparently planning to launch his own brand of Frank Furtters called Snoop Dogs, according to the recent legal filing at the Federal Trademark Office. tourneys for the hip hop legend real name calvin brodus it's hard to sometimes difficult to remember he was known as someone else for a long time calvin brodus uh applied last month a snoop lion for a little while too oh yeah what how can that switch back what was the deal there was that just the probably just

people like got confused and it's like all right go back to the old go back to the name we're all familiar with yeah i guess people do this like yee and yeezis and conier right exactly exactly whatever Anyway, he applied last month for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for a federal trademark registration for the term Snoop dogs, saying he plans to use it to sell hot dogs and other types of sausage. Okay. I was trying to find it while I was doing it, and I couldn't find it. Using it as a stall technique to play it. To play, yeah. I can't find it, though.

I don't know where it went. Oh, no. I know. Oh. There is. Saus. Yeah. It's like eight minutes long now.

It's going to be a week. It stretches out like an old TDK tape. Yeah, every time. All right, it says here, the December finally came. They didn't have a lot of detail, just a little bit. They did a so-called intent-to-use application, meaning Snoop has yet to launch the brand, but he has the intent to use it.

A hot dog brand would be the least, or the latest consumer venture from Snoop in 2015. The marijuana aficionado started a cannabis company called Leafs by snoop. And in 2020, the gin and juice rapper debuted a liquor called indigo gin. And I'm sorry, indago gin. Like, indigo, but indigo.

Yeah, indigo. Yeah. It's bad. Oh, geez. He also released a cookbook and has repeatedly appeared on cooking television segments with his close friend Martha Stewart. So, yeah, well, that cookbook is going to be called the Kodog cookbook. Yeah, you can't Cook, cook, but dog

book. Don't worry. I can fit this. I can fit dog in everything. Don't worry. I can fit it in. You'd think the snoop would be more of the focus, you know? Like, if I'm going to come up with names, I could probably come up with more snoop names than dog names.

Exactly, yeah. I don't know. Plus, do you really want to have dog in your cooking book? I don't know. It's weird. Only if it's hot dogs. I hear there is a spectacular hot dog place in Narlens that, uh, that I've apparently, that people are saying, oh, you got to go to this hot dog place.

Like, really? It's a hot dog place. Like, if I go to New Orleans, the last thing I want to do is eat something that I feel like I can get anywhere. I want to get some jambalions, some gumbo, some et al-fei, some bignets, stuff like that. I'm not going there for, you know, tube steak. But people are saying it's pretty good. I would be very curious. I have not heard of this. What's the name of the place?

Do you know the name? I don't remember. I can look it up. It was J. Functastic, I think was the guy who recommended it to me. Oh, I'd trust him. He knows stuff. He does know stuff. He is a. He's a Southernian. Yeah. He's been down there a long time. Knows all the best places. Totally trust him. Dat dog, I think. That is it dat dog or lucky dogs?

Lucky dogs. Mm. Yeah. Huh. We got a place here called J. Dogs, and it's very good. I wish I could give you a J. Dogs. Because you would change your mind about, but not change your mind. But you would be like, whoa, that's a, that is a huge step above what I think of a hot dog as. Yeah, we've got a bikeer, a place here called Biker Jims that makes them incredible hot dogs. Oh, I kind of want one now. This is why streaming is so much better for you, because you would see a commercial, it feels like, and you'd be like, I want that immediately. Kim, let's go get that.

Yeah, no, you're right. But now I want to just wait until the show's over. drive to j-dogs and get one of those because it's so freaking good oh my gosh um all right i can find the uh looks like looks like dat dog d-a-t-d-o-g is the like that dog but dat dog yo yeah dad dog yeah i don't think i like that name all right that name no uh here's a story about some customers that are furious uh that's that's the thing you hear a lot about these day is furious customers. They want to talk to the manager. Everybody's furious. Customers are furious after energy supplier tells customers to

cuddle pets to keep warm. Oh, man. Should do that anyway, but you shouldn't have to do it to keep warm. No, and it shouldn't be the freaking power company if we're having problems, the heating, whoever shouldn't, their answer shouldn't be, it's like those stone, those rocks they gave nurses at that hospital. Do you see that thing floating? No, I did, yeah. How it? Oh, I would have been so annoyed. it's like here's your wish rock or whatever think of all the positive thoughts while you hold your wish rock oh and take it home and paint it basically we've done all the hard work we went out to the friend of the hospital and picked up a rock and brought it inside i hate it hate it yeah i'd be so annoyed it is worthy of ire yeah it's ireworthy uh here's so here's the deal british supplier energy supplier Zoe we're looking at you in there bring your bacon has a apologize for the poorly judged and unhelpful advice sent to customers, which suggested they

could snuggle up to their pets and exercise to cut back on heating bills. S-S-E, which is owned by OVO Energy or OVO-E-O-E-O-T energy, I'm not sure they said. Suggested 10, quote, simple and cost-effective ways to keep warm this winter, according to the financial times, eating bulls of oatmeal, doing star jumps. Don't we just call those jumping jacks here? Jumping jacks here, yeah. Okay. You call them jumping jacks, star jumps. All right. some star jumps. Give me, give me 10. 10 star jumps.

Ready set, go. What's the, what's the exchange rate on jumping jacks? Is it, just give me 8.5 star jumps. For your 10 jumping jumps. Or maybe it's like miles where we all stuck to the same dumb measurement. Maybe. Maybe that's it. I don't know. Maybe they're directly

cut across. Anyway, they said, what else do they add? They put in let's see, doing star jumps, cuddling pets. These were all among the recommendations of the now deleted web page. So they learned their lesson. Oops.

Oops. And a statement sent to CNN, Tuesday, a spokesman for OVO energy set or OVO. Recently, a link to a blog containing energy saving tips was sent to customers. We understand how difficult the situation will be for many of our customers this year. We are working hard to find meaningful solutions

as we approach this energy crisis. so we recognize the content of this blog was poorly judged and unhelpful. We are embarrassed and sincerely apologize, says the spokesperson. I guess that's good. They're owning it. Hey, so is there, I didn't know there's an energy crisis in the UK. Is that a thing? I didn't either.

Yeah. I hope you guys are. Because everybody's, they're all staying home too. I guess so. Everybody's working from home using up all that, all that energy. That's true. It's a big shift in the grids and everything. They got to adjust for it.

But hopefully you're all okay and not freezing or whatever. And if you do have pets, you do hug them, you know, snuggle with your pets. It's fine. Yeah, yeah. And if you don't have pets, then heat up some rocks on the stove and cuddle with those. And I know where you could probably get a bunch of those encouragement stones. We got some numbers here. British consumers will play roughly 790 pounds.

That's pound sterling, which is $1,075 here. more in heat and light this year in their house. So they're going to pay that much on top of their normal bills. That's a lot. That is a lot. That's according to Bank of America, Bank of America. Wholesale European gas prices have jumped 400% than the previous year. Electricity prices increased 300%.

The increases have been driven by cold weather, nuclear plant outages in France. Freaking French. Jeez. It all comes back to the damned French every time. Always the French. The French and Boris Johnson. Those bastards. A combination of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his hair and those damn French people.

They also had reduced flow of gas out of Russia, which I guess contributed to it. According to the National Energy Action, more than 4 million UK households are in the grip of a fuel poverty, a figure that or which the charity believes could rise by 2 million in April when a cap on energy prices is expected to increase again. so yo careful Zoe's in the chairman I got to ask so with Brexit obviously you guys went back to using the pound

is the euro can you can people still spend euros places or are they phasing out any use of the euro I thought one of their things when they were part of the European Union is that they wouldn't change their currency I think they kept the pound didn't they keep the pound okay they might have yeah because we used we used

pound sterling when we were in in Northern Ireland. So, yeah, so they stuck to the pound the whole time. Yeah, I think they did. But I think they had to accept something, or maybe it was always a... Probably. Everywhere was a exchange place, kind of, or something.

Gotcha. Okay. I don't know how that works. You just use credit cards. Everything works. Yeah, everything. Exactly. Cashless society.

Please, come on. Yeah, let's get in. Let's put a chip in my head. I'm ready. All right, so there's that story. That's a fun one for you to chew on there, European folks. Can they get back?

back in? Like, can they just at the end of the Brexit go, can they go, oh, you know, this wasn't great. This is a bad idea. What's the portmanteau then for, uh, for the equivalent of Brexit, uh, bruntrants? Yeah, bruntrants. We've made a fantastic bruntrance back into the good graces of the European community. Breenter. Breenter. Brexit through the gift shop, or I don't know how you know. Right. Yeah. But yeah, like, Brinch. Brench. I want to know, I want to know what, brunch. There you go. Brunch. Gnailed it. I want to know if that's even on the table. I mean, obviously, in a, in a possibility sense it is, but not a probability, you know.

Jiggins, I think, has the best one. Regrigs it. Regrags it. That's pretty good. That should be a title. I think that would make a title, exactly. I think that might be our title today if somebody He puts that in, regrigsit. Get that in there. J. J. J. Igins. J.R. Riggins. Whatever it is. Oh, now he's laughing his head off in the other room. He's just as loud as he wants to be.

Oh, see? Yeah. What the frick. Actually, Van really liked the regrigsit, actually. Yeah, he's just losing it in there. He's watching the show live. That's hilarious. Even to my three-year-old mind. All right.

Here's a possibly final story. depending on how long this and goes. This is interesting. LAPD, that's the Los Angeles Police Department. Officers ignore a robbery in progress because they were trying to catch a snorlax in Pokemon Go. Oh, the LAPD, always in trouble, starting riots, shooting people where they shouldn't, and now catching a snorlax.

Can't we all just get a snorlax? The frick. L.A. police officer fired for ignoring robbery and progress and instead stuck around to try to get the snorlax in Pokemon. Go. This is all according to court documents that were published on Friday. According to the officer's appeal, former LIPD officers Louis Lozano and Eric Mitchell were fired for, quote, willfully abdicating their duty to assist a commanding officer's response to a robbery in progress and playing a Pokemon Go, or as they put it, playing a Pokemon mobile game

while on duty. Well, now there's multiple. You know, there's Pokemon Unite and there's Pokemon Matcham in a coffee shop I can't remember what that thing was called Pokemon Cafe or something

Yeah There's another one where you run around with three other Pokemon and fight stuff joystick styles Kind of like a Moba Isn't that Unite

Or no No it's something It's not the Not the It's not the Moba It's something else Not the Moba They're little square

looking versions of themselves And it's older It's okay It's kind of fun Yeah it was like a balloon or something Like you also wrote in a balloon, or maybe the entrance opening screen had you read in a balloon or something? Yeah, I can't remember.

Something like that. Back to Pokemon Go. Back to Pokemon Go. It's one of my favorite clips. Back to Pokemon Go. Pokemon Go. So they, uh, yeah, they're in trouble. Yeah, they first, initially these guys, um, you know, they said, oh, no, we didn't do that.

We totally didn't do that. And then they found audio of them in the car, um, dash cam audio or, or chest camera audio or whatever, is saying, oh, let's go, look, there's a snorlax at this address, let's go. Like, they know the address, you know, it's like, they must have been using one of those websites that said, hey, there's a snorlax at this address. Yeah, they get a little, a different dispatch. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they should have just gone and done the thing and then gone back to try, well,

I guess you're going to give up the rest of your next couple of hours if you're going to go help, right? Yeah. I'm not trying to justify what they did. I'm just saying. No, definitely not. Exactly. And apparently this happened back in April.

2017 back when it was harder to get a snorlacked these days kind of easy to get a snor lack So this happened in 2017 and I cannot For the life of me like you just mentioned I cannot figure out why They just I think they just finally charged these guys or the audio

Or something Or they just fired them finally or something? Maybe yeah Yeah because it was all the news It's been all in the news this last week Even though this happened back in 2017 Oh, interesting. It says it happened at the Lacey's, Los Angeles, Crenshaw Mall, patrol supervisor called Mitter-Lizano.

Oh, yeah. It says to respond to an apparent robbery in process at Macy's. Several police officers left the scene of a homicide to respond to it. These two chuckleheads stayed for Pokemon. Yeah. All right. So they tried to appeal it and they lost the appeal, I guess. Apparently, apparently so, yeah.

All right. Good on them. Good on them for losing their dumb appeal. You guys are dumb. That's a dumb thing to do. Like, I, Pokemon's cool and everything, but it's not meant to stop you from doing your really important policing jobs. I am, and I am barely still playing Pokemon Go. Like, I'll, if I'm sitting around not doing anything or have something on TV, I might open it up and just see if there's anything to catch.

But they haven't added anything new to the game and feels like a year. And so what's the, you know, I was going to ask. I was actually going to ask you what your involvement is in the game these days. And it sounds like it's less than, than you'd plan. I'm still sitting on level 44. I'm not progressed in the last, I don't know, 18 months past level 44. That's level, that's 42 levels. That's level 42.

There's something about you. All done. Anyway, you're a lot higher than me is what I'm saying. A lot higher than most people I know. I'll bet you're on average, you're in the higher bracket. I'll bet. Probably. I mean, there's still some holdouts playing that thing.

Claire says, I should go back to Animal Crossing. Are you still? Yeah, I get into a couple chores and stuff. I'm not like the, when that expansion came out, I was kind of every day for about a month there. Yeah. And kind of hardcore, and I've kind of slacked back on it a bit. You know what?

The Temple Run game. Oh, yeah. The puzzle game. The Temple Run puzzler. Yeah. Curse you, because that's probably what's taken over for me. me from Pokemon go, I'm on puzzle 814 of that thing. Oh my lord. Whoa, really? Yeah. Yeah, I'm still playing it. She has stopped, she has stopped running through the temple. She's basically

sitting in a door and they just give me new, new challenges. Yeah, at the end of the game, they just call it Temple Sit, I think, and you just sit. Temple stand in one place. Yeah. But today during Coverville, we'll talk about what's on Coverville later, I've been playing Hitman 3, which is great. Oh, Hitman 3 is an awesome game. Today I'm trying out Astroeneer, which just launched on the Switch today. I know it's been on Steam for six months or a year or something, but it looks like Animal Crossing No Man Sky kind of thing. It's very cool.

I played it back when it was just in early access in like 2016, I think. Oh, really early. Wow, okay, so I thought this was even newer than that. Well, it hit 1.0, it's maybe two years now since it hit, since it went out of early access. But since then, it's been on, it's on PlayStation, it's on Xbox, on GamePass right now, I believe. Yeah. And is, like you said, just launched on Switch. Just launched on Switch today.

It's very cool. My daughter Taylor got completely, like, under the water hooked on that thing. Really? And it looks like Carter's even, she's like, oh, astronauts on Switch. Yeah, ooh, that'll be, like she's got all the time in the world right now. She's trying to, she's been working on her portfolio, and she's doing some killer stuff. I wish I could show people some of this stuff. It's so good.

But she'd been so busy with that. I didn't think she'd have time for games. But I guess she still does. I guess she's still a gamer at heart, Carter. Oh, good. As she should be. Gamer at heart or Carter, Carter. Okay.

Let's see. Oh, Heaven's Daddy makes a good point. Read download that Lara Croft Go game. That game is great. It is great. Yeah. It's old now. Too short.

Yeah, too short, but great. The other one based on Hitman, Hitman Go, also very good. Those Go serieses were cool. They did a DeusX one as well, and then they stopped making them, and I hate them for it. The Geostorm game was kind of based on that, too. Like, it was, it's basically a Geostorm Go thing, even though it's not called that, because you do have, like, multiple turns to get through a thing. Yeah, and it's similar art style, I would say.

Similar art style? Chunky low-poly style, whatever. That three-quarter view down, whatever the camera, what that's called, isometric. That game did not benefit from the name getting slapped on it. No, we didn't. It's like they probably had the game built, and then they said, oh, there's this movie. Can we tie it to that? Like, oh, sure, yeah, okay.

And then the movie sunk like an anchor. Yeah. And then I took that game down with it, sadly. And now we've seen it, and we know it's poo. It's poo. That movie's poo. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy will be here.

We'll have a little therapy Thursday today. Any of you guys out there suffer from even a little ADHD? Well, good, because we got a thing about attention deficit disorder. And I think that I probably have some form of it. We'll talk. Yeah, I think I do. We're going to find out soon from my professional therapist sister what that means and more. After this song that Brian brought, what do you got?

Yeah, so a friend of the show, frequent collaborator, and even a contestant on the most recent season of A&P, or no, two seasons, last season, oh, it's been such a long time. But he is a, he is one of America's Next Stop podcasters. His name is Shane Maddox, and aside from picking a new goofy name every time that we play among us or any sort of jackbox game, he also had time to write in. He says, hello, sound and booth. It's hard to believe that it's been two years since we released our second album through one. what we know, but our experimental acoustic album has also now arrived. It's called Here Waiting, and we're super excited to share it. Wisconsin-based hard rock group Else in brackets is proud to announce their latest effort, an experimental acoustic album titled

Here Waiting. The album explores the highs and lows of our world from despair and resentment to adoration and hope with creative percussion arrangements, guest artists, and an intriguing balance of acoustic and electronic elements throughout. Shane, we love when he sends in music, and his band else is one of those to keep an eye on to listen to and to check out. From their brand new at the end of 2021 album entitled Here Waiting, here is the song Sparrow. Ooh, very nice. It's like a bird.

Okay, here we go. Sparrow, coming at you. We'll be back in a second. Scott's Delane because he doesn't have the right thing up. Okay, hold on a second. Oh, did I not put that in the... No, you're fine. I screwed up.

It's me. Okay, here we go. And now the break. Calming mystery reveals serenity spoofing down from the book of yet no world speaks there of a pain Night Sparrow sing your song silently, yay.

Night Sparrow, sing your song for me. Soaring, gentle flight emerged From fading light, all senses Height in so such beauty Is a glow A night sparrow Sing your song silently A night sparrow

Sing your song for me I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. I'm going to be able to be able to be. I'm going to be. I see you, I see you way off, I see you way off in love, I see you way off in love. dark distance I hear you

you're something to the cadence Hey, night sparrow You sing your song so silently Hey, night sparrow Just sing your song for me People are switching to band basic Because it looks and feels like an aerosol spray

but has no aerosol propellants. And its effective anti-wetness protection really helps keep you dry. Yucky secrets. Oh, man. I can't get anything to work right. that song again? Sure. That song again is Sparrow by the band Else from their brand new album here waiting. It's a new acoustic take and it is really, really good. All right. There it is. Well done. We love some talented listeners and I love when we can showcase their stuff. Nothing wrong with that.

Get ready, everybody, because it's time for this. My sister Wendy, my junior sister. She's younger than me. All my sisters are. But she's like, six years younger than me. It wouldn't be like if I was older than you. I don't know what I would do. That would be weird. Let me think for a minute. Would you be a crazy conspiracy lady at that age?

Do you think? No. Wow. So just age defines conspiracy theory. Well, you know. Birth order. Age. Some of it's, you know, I don't know what it is.

I don't know what causes people to go down those roads. Yeah, I don't know either. But probably not, Wendy. You're right. She's a... I would boster around more, I think. I just don't want to offend people. That's probably it.

I never want to offend people by saying, hey, it's my white sister. Because I have, I have three sisters, but the other two are Korean. And it's just weird to refer to it as my white sister. So I don't do that. I just call her my sister. Yeah, that's probably all I need to do. Hey, Wendy, it's good to have you back. Why are you talking about race so much, Scott?

You're always talking about race. Maybe there's something wrong. You're making us racist. I think it's our pearly white skin that makes me racist. All right. Hey, we're good to have you back. We're going to talk about some stuff. And also, before we're done today, you have a real steps thing we want to talk about as well.

So excited about that. So we'll get to all that. But first, an email. And I said something, before I read this, I said something before that I actually don't know if I even mean. But I think I have some ADD or ADHD tendencies. I've never been, what's the word, diagnosed as such. And I've had evaluations like that. like everyone probably should at some time or another just to kind of see where your head's at or

whatever and they never said oh yeah you're you've you've got this or you do this or any of that so it's completely in my head that i do but i know that i know that i struggle with uh attention sometimes in ways that i didn't when i was younger uh so like growing up i could attend i could be very attentive in fact maybe too much i would focus on something i was drawing instead of my homework or or whatever and maybe that's all this is just just an adult version of this where I focus on what I want to focus on, if that makes sense. Anyway, so we'll keep that in mind as I read this email that goes like this.

It's a little bit older email, but we wanted to finally get around to it. And I think they're okay with saying their name because it's in this. I don't know. What do you think, Brian? Do I do it or not? I think so, yeah. Okay. I think, yeah.

All right. We'll be all right. Hello, Wendy and the boys. It's your favorite taffy dealer's wife, Lois. Brian, do the Peter voice, Lois. Hello, Lois. There you go, very well done. I was recently given the diagnosis of ADHD.

Some of my friends around me weren't surprised. They thought I knew, obviously, I didn't. Having a diagnosis and learning more about how my brain works is helpful, but how did I go from 35 years without many therapists or medical professions noticing or testing me for ADHD, thanks Lois. this goes right along with what I was saying about me. No one ever said so. But maybe if I, you know, I worry that it's a power of suggestion. I go into somebody and go, I think I might have ADHD. Can you test me for that?

And they'll go, oh, sure enough, you do. Like it would be, you know, they would just find it or something. So I kind of don't want to. But anyway, Wendy, this is probably one of those things that goes undiagnosed for a lot of people, I would have to think. But there's also a feeling out there that it gets over diagnosed. So I would like to know which we're supposed to believe, and you're going to help us do that. Yeah, okay. Well, let's start with this.

Seeing many therapists and medical professionals for many years and not being diagnosed is really easy to do. Because, first of all, symptoms present slightly differently. It's the most obvious in younger children, how it presents in girls versus boys. It's not 100%. I've seen, you know, a kid who you're like, that is ADD, the same. second, ADHD, the second you see them, it's so obvious, right, because of the H part, the hyperactivity part, right? They are bing ponging around, that's a word, bing bing ponging. Bing ponging, sure. All around the world. And they're just, and they're all around the room.

And they're just, it's so clear, right? And so that, that kid is not going to get missed necessarily, right? But very often young girls present differently. And then as they get into teenage land, it also presents a little bit differently. It is, it is kind of tricky to catch, actually, if it is not in a traditional presentation, right? So there's the inattentive type. You know, what's interesting is I have a couple clients struggling with ADHD as adults never were diagnosed. And one thing we've done to kind of do some digging and, like, helping them recognize some of these symptoms in their childhood. Because often what happens, they just feel like, well, I was dumb or like I sucked at school or

kids didn't want to play with me sometimes and they don't have context for what was going on because they were a kid maybe some remember mom saying gosh it's like you're driven by her motor or just sit down or you know being you know their hands smacked a lot or something they have kind of these sort of memories of being uh having some sort of bad mojo going on but they can't piece it together so one thing you do is you go through your um childhood if somebody kept them for you your childhood like teacher evaluations at the end of the year or whatever, you know, commentary, others, not only your mom's memory or your dad's memory or something, but other people in positions of working with you would have said. And so what you often find in those records is always moving

around or always daydreaming out the window or, you know, you can kind of spot some of it looking backwards. And how old did she say she was? She said 35. I assume that means 35 years of, because she just says 35 years without, you know, therapists or professionals noticing, but I don't know if that means that maybe she's been seeing them for 35 years, but she's actually 45 and for 10 years she saw no one. I don't know. Because that, it matters in time of sort of the different place in history, right? If she was an adult for 35 years, so we're looking at somebody who's 55, then I would not be one bit surprised. No one diagnosed her. Because the category, you know, sort of 40s up and up, you, maybe a little older than that.

It wasn't really until the 80s that it was being recognized more by pediatricians and seen as a thing and then being treated, you know, I mean, it's been around forever, but it is not sort of that became part of the zeitgeist moment around then. So then you've got kids at that time who were not falling through the cracks, et cetera, but anyone older tends to have fallen through the cracks. And so what happens, I'll give you an example of a client.

I saw years and years and years ago. He was about 50 at the time. He was an architect. He just was so much chaos in his life. He couldn't like get anything organized and felt like he was going to lose his job any minute. And as we're talking and we're going through, his marriage was rocky.

Stuff was just kind of falling apart. And I said, so tell me when you feel the best. And what he described was my clue to, oh, this is ADHD that's never been treated. And what he said was he grew up around snowbird and solitude. I think his dad worked there or something so he could ski all the time. And he said the only time he felt good, felt normal, felt like his thoughts or his head was clear, was when he was ripping down a mountain. Oh, interesting. at like you know speed that would kill most people is that because you is that because you have to

focus on that stuff like there's no oh all right no no no let me explain um yes sure you have to like you die if you don't i guess that that's it focuses you for sure i mean yeah they have to concentrate a little bit i guess we're not a lindsay vaugh and we don't you know whatever but like you have to focus short so it puts your attention into one place however um what it really really does and this is this is why I suspected ADHD was that the time his brain was clearest when is when he was physically moving quickly so if you think of a young child with the ADHD hyperactive type subtype where they are bouncing around the walls you're you're just thinking what what are you doing just sit down well what happens is is there's a part of the brain in the frontal

lobe area which is where our executive functioning is right that's the thing that does things in order is logical makes you know a little more organized like that's just our thinking center right and there's a part that's underperforming in there with when a kid has ADHD and so there's the body will compensate by moving so that's why fidget spinners and all those kinds of things that became sort of more mainstream those have always been in the hands hopefully at least a while now in the hands of kids that struggle with focusing or concentration or other things because it occupies that part of the brain. We all have a version of this maybe like you need background music to study or something.

So it's like it takes a part of the brain that needs something and keeps it occupied while you do this other task that requires focus and concentration. So that movement that kid is showing is really trying to compensate for that part of its brain that's under stimulated. That is why then the prescriptions are stimulants, right? So you give a kid Ritalin or Adderall. Those are stimulants. You know, anyone else taking a stimulant is going to get the buzz of a stimulant.

But if you have ADHD, what it does is it speeds up that part of the brain. So it catches up and you, your brain, people will describe it as like lifting your head out of fog or just suddenly your thoughts are clear. and also so that's what happened with this guy so he ripping down the hill skiing all the time i said i think you probably have ADHD that's never been diagnosed he'd never heard that ever no one had ever suspected that this is also a person who'd seen doctors as a life and what it was is he's just compensating so hard for it right i mean architecture school's hard it is the death of people it's not an easy thing to do and how did he do it well he's compensating like crazy and and he marries

someone who takes care of all the messes and kind of handles all the stuff. And so you can see that, you know, hit through his life, he kind of figured this out. He was very bright. A lot of folks with ADHD are really bright, but don't think they are because they have to work so hard or concentrate so hard or compensate so hard. Or just traditional school is just so difficult because it's for sitting down and listening to one person ramble on in front of you, right? Wow. There's distractions everywhere. So it's a really tough situation.

Anyway, so I said, hey, go talk to your doctor. I'm not going to tell him what to do, but how about five milligrams of Ritalin? Maybe 10. And he went and suggested and the guy got tested and he clearly has ADHD. And then this tiny little pill every morning has altered his life because it treats that part of his brain that needs stimulation that hasn't had it. And he could focus and he could do the work. Would he have a problem if you gave him a depressant of some sort? Like, in other words, if this dude got, I don't know.

Well, yeah, alcohol or THC, but maybe even something more over the counter, like, I don't know what would be. I can't think of a good one. But let's say something akin to, you know, the heroin side, which is the depressant side, would that be the, was that react the opposite with people who are ADHD? No, no, no, it doesn't. And, I mean, that's what, so Ritalin, this is why you get focused. So you're just like a college student and you're like, I'm on an edge. So you take some Ritalin that you found in the street. I don't know.

I'm making up a dumb star here. Some street Ridd. Yeah, some street Ridd. And you are now able to knock out your whole paper, right? Like you can focus. You can, it heightens your attention. It does make you a little bit buzzed, right? Like you are, and you can get a little bit.

a lot of crap done, which is why it's abused, right? It's also abused because, according to a friend of mine once, he sniffed some and he said he felt like God. So clearly it's got some good stuff in it, right? And that's, and this is... I'm already sold. You don't need to try and sell me on it. Okay.

Now, what else you can do with us? You get it out of the street. Okay. Clearly, I'm very good at drug talk. But anyway, so this is the idea, though, is that it does this particular thing and just makes them feel normal. whereas it doesn't that drug does not do that to other people that is to me they always the tell tell sign they have ADHD like if they take five milligrams and they're like oh you're like okay well I think we got the right diagnosis and unlike other medications like antidepressants or whatnot you have to build that up in the system for them to be effective and to be at a therapeutic dose whereas Ritalin is every single day is a new day because the process is out they have developed you know sort of the extended release so kids can make it through the afternoon. It is a game changer for so many.

So I wanted to start this conversation with how pro-diagnosis I am about ADHD and medication. And I will tell you why. I'm not that way about literally anything else. I know. I was just going to say, for those wondering, like, is Wendy suddenly, you know, biotech, whatever, no, she's not normally at all. Like that's, so this is interesting. So continue. And it's mainly because I've never seen anything work.

as effectively as medication does. And I have, I've, you know, gone to trainings, I know how to help people. There are specialists that do this all the time, behavioral,

and there are definitely things you can do behaviorally to improve. All of us can, right? Like everyone could benefit from some ADHD, like rejiggering your life. Because we have filled our lives with, we've created our own version, which we'll get to in a second.

But, and I've seen a lot of stuff there, but I've never seen anything like what that little pill can do. to a brain that just needs to have a break. And it just allows them to focus and get something done. And here's why I care mostly about this. It goes, it's definitely not, I'm not a fan of, I don't think diagnoses are all that helpful.

They're instructive if they tell us how to help you, but they're not, and I hate insurance. Can you tell all my issues are showing up here? But anyway, so it's this idea, though, that it's a way to understand yourself in the world and work with it, and the younger you can do that, the more heartache you can avoid.

Because what I have had a lot of experiences with is meeting these people later. Later in life, they were never diagnosed, they never got help. They are absolutely convinced they're dumb. They are absolutely convinced that they are not good in relationships. They're absolutely convinced all these different things. And if you take attention and focus,

and I should really clarify, hyper focus where you can play a video game or paint one of your miniatures for 17 hours straight that does not mean you have good focus that means you have hyper focus that means and that also ruins yeah that were avoiding other things I mean that's that's true more true than either of us would like to admit but yes I know I know and part of that though if you if you think about what hyper focus ultimately is is you know, the industries that want our focus have specialized in figuring out how to keep it and sustain it and have created hyperfocus, right?

So go pre-TV era, or back when your TV show was on only at 7 p.m. on a Tuesday, and what was hyper-focusing then? Well, maybe it was building some project in the, whatever. Like, you could find, there were definitely ways you could see people hyper-focusing. Now, there are people who don't have ADHD. who hyperfocus all the time, partly because things have been training their brain to do so. So that leads to this idea.

Okay, so I am pro. Get yourself diagnosed. You can't, I get the overdiagnosis thing. Like, that kid sucks. So I, let's slap this label on them and give him the pill. And I get that if that has been your experience, I don't want to discount that. But I also think we're pretty quick to think a bunch of professionals out there

are just like getting their jollies off of doing bad work. are not. They are not like, you know what, that kid's annoying. Let's give him a diagnosis and a pill. Now, has that happened once or twice? I'm sure it has. Just like anything has happened. But for the most part, there's some testing. You've got to figure it out. There are now brain scans that are incredible. I've had a few clients go to, I think I mentioned this on the show before, but if you live in Salt Lake and you wonder if you have attention deficit issues, then go to the attention clinic. It's in, oh, where is that area? like 30th south and anyway is it down i always get distracted when i try and find that place don't even know where it is yeah anyway so that place will they will scan your brain and help you out but they this brain scans i've seen a few of them are pretty cool because it's showing you doing different tasks what how your brain lights up and what it does it's in murray by fashion boulevard and murray saw by fashion place mall that's where it is yeah so um and it is like you can see what the brain is doing.

So you can see a brain that does not have ADHD during a task where you're supposed to focus on something you don't really want to or whatever versus ADHD brain. It is like someone spilled paint all over the paper. Like every single thing is lighting up. Like get me out of here. Right. And so when you feel like, wow, I am not like that kid sitting next to me or this person just seems so organized.

Yes, there's a variety of people's level of organization. and you can always find that right but then there is something else and and this usually has some indication of um you know kind of a lifelong struggle and there's usually looking in your past you can kind of see hints to this um and often there's sort of can be trails of relationships that haven't worked out awesomely um one time i send a couple to an ADHD marriage support group Oh, ooh. And because it's not always easy to be married to someone with ADHD. Yeah.

Because they may just seem like a jerk sometimes, but really, they just forgot or they didn't hear you when you were talking. I mean, you think of how that impacts a relationship, right? And so they show up to this support group and every single person there had already been divorced and was still meeting. So it was no longer a marriage support group. It was a, it didn't work out problem. Anyway, but just because it's really tough. There's some good books on that. I think one is called, is it ADHD or is he a jerk, something like that, you know, where you can kind of start to see, whoa, there are patterns here. And here's the power to this. The power is not. Okay, now you have a label. Great. Now use that as your excuse for everything. It's not. It's about, all right, what do I have to do to compensate in ways that don't exhaust you and ruin your life, right? How can I, you know, put things in place to make my life run smooth? either. You know, do I try medication or not? You can just have some better open conversations

and then follow where the treatment can take you as opposed to not knowing, which leads to everyone else, right? Because at this point, I bet both of you can describe ADHD symptoms that you both have, right? Oh, yeah. I totally could. Okay. So let me turn my computer back on. Yeah, I'm going to read a couple. So right now we're talking about adults. Okay. So if you're listening to this and you think, oh, my kid has it, you need a child psychologist to evaluate your child. The pediatrician can do that, but like all doctors who are not specialized, either they are, they should be sub-specialized in ADHD or get a referral to a clinic or a place that does, you're going to just save yourself so much time. Okay. So we're going to talk about adults, though, first I got here.

All right. Do you guys... have yes yes do you sorry sorry do you sorry do you make careless mistakes and lack attention to detail um i have yes yeah i wouldn't if this was a scale like if you said from one to five i'd say three two three yeah okay all right difficulty sustaining attention uh that i'd put it like a four out of five pretty high for me. Okay. Does not seem to listen when spoken to directly.

What? Brian's got, Brian's workshop and his next stander, I can't wait. It's really good. It's a whole ADHD special. Give me that last time again. What was it again? Yeah. Fails to, does not seem to listen when spoken to directly.

Okay. So Kim, Kim accuses me of this constantly. Yeah. Okay. So the answer is yes. The answer is some of the hits. The answer is what was that one again? I think the answer is automatically. Well, no, I forgot it because I was thinking a year that joke and it was funny. Exactly. It doesn't mean there's not a reason you're distracted. You just are distracted. Okay. And also you brought up something important. Like what are the people around you say is you may not. I just told you that. Yeah. Right. They think my hearing's going. They're like, do you need a hearing? Like they'll hearing aid me. Because the other thing I do is like it's not. It's not. so much that I won't hear what they say, even though it appears I'm paying attention, but it's like going through me. Sometimes I hear what they say, but my brain makes it weird. Like they'll say, uh, will someone get the door? They'll say, you hear a weird, a weird combination of the words they were saying, but in a different order or much together. Or I'll make up my own

meaning or my own version of the word. If they say someone's at the door, I'll say, there's a car on the floor you know i'll just i'll come up with the alternate rhyming version of it or something and kim will look at me and go yeah i set a car on the like she's just really a that's the that's the cockney version of uh of ADHD by the way is what cockney is by the way just nothing but that it really is yeah so yeah so that is very funny so scott if she were less patient and actually needed you to follow through on answering the tour like you can imagine that being problematic right yeah but i can do this where you know well I notice I do it and I'll go okay hold on and I'll square up my eyes look at her in the

face and say sorry go ahead tell me again and I'll take care or whatever and then it works out fine like I can make it it's not like I can't do it it's like there's just a part of me that in a casual way doesn't do it and then I and then I'd say something dumb or weird and I admit sometimes I do just because I'm like a pandemic this that and the other oh there's a car on the floor like I'm just kind of like blowing everything off and and I and I don't know what to call that yeah i don't know what to call that so okay we're going to keep going here fails to follow through on tasks and instructions uh that depends um i don't know that i think i actually do that okay i'm pretty good at tasks and i'm probably pretty bad at that i'll

sit down like oh i need to email so and so and i'll start drafting an email and then i'll hear a like a computer that i'm working on for one of my other freelance things will chime in the other room. I'll go over there to reset it to start its next task. And then to come back to do the email? No, I see that the table has a package that needs to go out. So I'll start putting a package together. And then I finally come back to the email. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is what I was doing initially. Like, I get, I have like a to-do list. And I kind of attack the to-do list all simultaneously instead of one right after another. Yeah, I can relate to that. I think I do that as well. and there's also just this, um, it depends on the importance of it. Like I get really hyper-focused

if it's like, this client needs this and I need it right now and here's what they need and you get it done. There's other external motivations on that to make sure that stuff gets done. But if it's for stuff for myself, like I was saying to somebody the other day, the reason I can't do audiobooks anymore, I can read, no problem. Give me a book, open it, read it, focused, getting it all, loving it, uh, don't miss a beat. But do an audio book version of that, even if it's read by the greatest readers of audiobooks and the history of the world, I immediately lose focus every time. And then it's like 10 minutes later and you can't remember all the things you just heard.

Yeah. And I don't know why. And then I got to rewind sometimes. I hate, I freaking hate that. Are you sitting still and listening? Sometimes, sometimes I'm walking.

It doesn't matter. It's all whenever I've tried. I need to do audiobooks in the VR headset because then it can be like completely black or. Yeah, or at least, roaring fire. Yeah. Or the story. That would just be a TV show, Wendy. Yeah, that's true.

But I don't have this problem, by the way, with, like, a podcast or, like, you know, some NPR show or something where they're telling a thing or documentary style stuff. No problem. It's just books. It's like narrative books. Interesting. And I don't know why. I hate it.

It drives me freaking nuts. It's like conversations you hardly listen to. Yeah. It is like that. Same pace. And so when people are like, oh, you remember that one part? And I'm like, no. I don't.

I don't remember that at all. The whole point. Yeah. Okay, we're going to just, let me fly through these. I'm not going to ask you anymore, so everyone stop talking. You're distracted. Exhibits for organization. Avoids dislike tasks requiring sustained mental effort.

Oh, boy. Loses things necessary for tasks or activities. Oh, boy. Easily distracted, including unrelated thoughts. Yeah. So glad you're not asking. I'm really glad you're. Skimmon now.

Daily activities. No, this is good. Keep skimming. Okay, so that's inattention. That's the inattention subtype. Then there's the hyperactivity, impulsivity subtype. So the hyperactivity often, you know, that's kind of what we think of as the typical presentation, especially in kids, right? But impulsivity, I mean, how this lasts into adulthood is kind of interesting.

So here's the adult version of hyperactive impulsivity. Fidgets with or taps hands or feet, squirms, and see. I do that. leave seed in situations when remaining seated is expected no i never do that no experiences feelings of restlessness always has difficulty engaging in quiet leisurely activities um difficulty no i kind of look forward to those yeah yeah like all you know you brought up the painting miniatures that is my zen lately and i'll i'll have a song playing and the song will end and I'll be so focused on what I'm doing

that it'll half an hour I'll go by and I'll realize I don't have any music or any other sounds going on. It's like I kind of live for that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you're both old.

Okay. Is on the go or acts if driven by a motor? So that can be adults. You've seen adults who are, seem like they're driven by a motor. Talks excessively, blurtes out answers, has difficulty waiting their turn.

Yes. Oh, that's 100% me. That's you. Wendy, that's you too, by the. way, that's kind of you and me both, at least in our family upbringing. We always talk about how if there's any quiet moment or someone doesn't know what to say or there's an awkward pause, it's impossible for Wendy and I not to start talking. We just have to. Oh yeah, we just have to.

And my mom, my mom has that and it's like, we'll drive, we'll take these long hour and a half drives to brush. And Tim and I'll just be like kind of quietly enjoying the weather. And my mom's like, so, you know, I knitted something the other day. Or, oh, if you watch that Netflix, thing. It's like a squid hunger game thing. She'll just talk, you know, automatically. The only person I'm comfortable being really quiet with for extended periods of time

in a car or whatever is Kim, because for whatever reason, she just is the only person I can do that with. And we can talk just as easily too, but there's never that weird pressure I feel when there's silence somewhere else. Now, Brian may not remember this. And I've told the story before, but you

were there. You and a bunch of other nerdtacular people came over to our house the night before the event. I think it was 2011s. So you were at the house and we made food and Kim was there making food and stuff and we all hung out and it was Tom and you and Eileen and Eric was there and I think the spags and anyway, a whole bunch of people were at the house and we were eating something that was on a paper plate. Kim made pie or something. Don't remember what it was, not the important part. And everyone's talking. Lots of talk. Lots of talking shop. Some of us had only met each other for the first time in this environment.

physically and in person. And so it was like this really lots of lots of talk. And then at one point, like this happens in everybody's social circles at some point. For whatever reason, everything comes to a screeching halt conversation-wise. And just nobody has a follow-up. Nobody has an add-on. It just goes quiet for a second. And I mean literally, maybe a second is all I gave it before I went,

watch this. My dog's afraid of plates. And I put a plate on the door on the floor in front of the dog to show everybody how the dog hates plates. And it was 100% this emergency mode thing of like, that's silence. We can't have that. Look what my dog does to a plate. Like I just was. And I were even in myself, I saw how ridiculous it was.

Like, it's like, what are you freaking doing? That's awesome. It's horrible. Everyone's like, oh, good. He saved us from that awkward. I know. 4.5 seconds. That void has to be filled.

Yeah. It was so close to that. That think that's why it shocked me because I may have. has well have just said look my thumb's missing my thumb's missing or whatever you know like it was so stupid and at the same time I realized then that that was just going to be my fate I can't do quiet or I can't do I mean it's actually been it benefits me in a podcast way and in a show construction way because if if things go south with an interviewee or things aren't whatever I can fill I can do it it's like a thing I can do but I also think maybe it comes from this other weird place you know I

I don't know. Slipping around in your head. Okay, so I want you to do this. If anyone is listening and going, do I have them? It's me. I want you to go to this website. I could just put it in the... Ooh, do you know how to copy and paste?

Yeah. I put another of my announcement in there, too, but I'll just stick it in there. So it's Q-A-N-D-A-D-H-D.com. And it's the criteria for adult AD-D, and they probably have a children. one in there as well. And there's all these sort of self-administer tests that kind of walk you through what to expect. Because I think sometimes people are like, well, I don't know.

I probably have a thing. We'll see. I don't know. What do I do about it? So obviously you can bring it up to your regular doctor and see what they would suggest. You could take some of these things and say, oh, wow, like it looks like I meet a lot of this criteria. And then it would be interesting maybe to follow up.

But you've got to look at your life. Like, is this causing problems? now everyone is a little distracted everyone i think brian your description of walking around and finding the new thing to do everywhere you go i just feel like that is modern life yeah well on some level um but it's but it's probably this modern life like it's modern life because of this exactly and so are you are you is it harming you and this is where i would argue everyone is in trouble with these kinds of things for this reason the harm comes from burning out or the harm comes from feeling crap you never get anything done right like

that never get anything done and if you're beating yourself up or you feel worthless like there's some cyclical dangerous sort of inner world stuff that can happen from some of this someone else might be like wow i just ran around all day that got nothing really effective whatever i'll start tomorrow okay great well this isn't a problem for you right but you know if you are having trouble if there's troubles in your relationship. If you are, you know, you know you're kind of bright enough, but it doesn't seem to pan out ever and you're feeling some of these symptoms we described and the disorganization or like you just can't stay on task or whatever, it might be worth talking to your doctor about and getting it ruled out because if it's ruled out and that's

not what it is, well, there's some lifestyle behavior changes anyone can do, which is, you know, priming your brain a little differently in the morning. The second you wake up, if you're on your phone scrolling, you have just primed. your reward center of your brain to want bits of dopamine. Oh, gosh, dang it. I did that this morning. Gosh, dang it. I got up.

I literally, I got up. I grabbed my phone just to see. I miss any messages overnight. Why do I need to do that? I don't need to do that. You don't. And what would help is if it, like, shocked you. Like, if it just literally shocked you.

Touching your phone for the first 20 minutes of the day just zaps you. And then eventually you either fight through the pain or you wait until the timer goes off and the shock stops and then you can do your thing but you haven't done other things to prime your brain for a slower reward day and so that can be you know I and name one person that's not doing this like this is everyone yeah so if you are feeling burned out yes it's because of a pandemic but it is also because we are feeding ourselves sort of you know dopamine all the time and so we really are rewarding behaviors that are quick changing attention so we're training It's like we're all in the Olympics for ADHD and we are training and we will get there if we just keep flipping around and, you know, I read a funny tweet the other day.

It was just like, if it was written like, if screens are bad, why I feel so good when I hold little screen in hand and also look at big screen? You know, why does this feel so good? Yeah. Well, why it feels so good and why you do it is that you're getting surface, you're giving surface attention and you're getting dopamine back. Yeah. But things that are meaningful to us. And this is why focus and concentration and getting something done in the bigger sense of things, that's our biggest dopamine hit.

That's we accomplish something. That's that I, you know, kind of value as a person. But if I can never focus long enough to do one of those things, it's pretty damaging to our self-esteem. Which is really my big kick about ADHD is that if you had it undiagnosed, there has been an impact on you probably. and unpacking that can be really valuable. Yeah. And it's not like, you know,

and it's a scale as usual, right? Everything's scaled. There's no like, you know, I don't like anything in life. Freaking COVID. You got a bad case, a mild case, a long COVID case, a death case.

Like, it's like, what's the other? Oh, like autism. It's got a giant scale. And you can't just like lump everybody into one little hole. So, so yeah, I guess that's why it's doing these things would be a good idea.

So you can figure out what little, what little category you inhabit. And if you want to, which would be really fun, is if you went to the attention clinic Scott and live streamed it and then also showed us your brain scan. That's some kind of ADD activity there. HIPA aside, we want to see what your brain looks like trying to focus. Everything is content.

Yeah. Why not? Well, I look forward to my, I look forward to my ADD diagnosis selfies. They'll be coming soon. Watch for that. Patrons. All right. Well, before we go, Wendy, you've got something cool coming up. I did. I sent the link in the old chat there.

The old chat there. I'm going to open it up here. Adam. It's time to party virtually. I'm not sure why it says Adam. But anyway, Adam is ready to party. Probably because he's the author. But anyway, go to the link. And we are doing on the 31st of January. Because real steps, you know, like you start your New Year's resolution in January. January 1st, right? That's the opposite of our methodology. You never, ever would start on January 1st. So you start January 31st. And it's just a party and it's free and it's all the

people who have been involved. And then anyone you want to invite to get a, it just will give you a taste of what we do. And it'll be fun and there's some prizes. And it's going to be a good time. Yeah. When you'll have good internet that day, right? You'll have good internet. I really hope so. I plan to be nowhere but you're not going to be you're not going to be in uh where were you you were in tennessee or something ash that's that's right Nashville i mean they don't even have internet no it's all country music and barbecue what do they know down there oh the barbecue was good yeah but yeah no it's uh it should so it should be fun so go to that link to just sign up to say you're coming or not and you can you can come it'll be a big zoom group right and you can

mute your camera and your thing there's no reason to show your cute faces yet but you know you can just come hang out get a taste see if it's interesting to you and see we can be helpful all right go check it out it's at real steps dot org there's a this story's linked there in the uh you guess it's like a little blog area right or something hold on where is it trying to make it easier for people to get to uh i can't tell well anyway if you don't we'll put it up on the you know what we'll put it up on our twitter as well just in case it's hard to find um outside of people who are in our chat room right now for people at home listening. Realsteps.org is the place to go. And that sounds awesome. Very cool, Wendy.

I hope your week is going well and that your attention is not in the deficit. It's not in the red, that it's in the black. Is that how you'd say it? I don't know. Do we owe some attention if we have attention deficit? I guess we do. Yeah, there's a deficit. Right, exactly. Do we raise the ceiling on the attention deficit every time? Right, yes. Not closed down the government? Otherwise there's a shutdown. Yeah, they close down the whole. the whole government of my brain shuts down. All right. Have a great week and we'll see you next time.

See, Wendy. All right. Yeah, I totally have some form of this. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Probably not. Right to the treatment page of that website she gave us. There's nothing I can buy on Amazon, I'm afraid.

I was like, give me a link to some focus all or something like that. Focusin. Focusin. Ooh, ask your doctor if focusin's right for you. Exactly. Side effects of focus on. this and include. It's all shriveled penis. Small shriveled, barely there penis.

All right, that's it for that. We're going to get out of here before we do, though, a couple of quick notes here. We've got some shows coming up and I wanted to mention that tonight. Well, let's talk about afternoon first. So Coverville today. What's going on? This afternoon, Coverville tribute to Ronnie Specter of the Ronnettes. Sad to lose her yesterday.

So we're going to have a little tribute set for. stuff that the Ronnettes did. Kings of Leon, lead singer is celebrating a birthday this week. Also, lead singer of Prefab Sprout. If you're familiar with some weird UK new wave bands that never really made it over here, Prefab Sprout is a great one. One of their albums, Thomas Dole, be my favorite of their albums, Jordan to come back. And lead singer is a guy named Patty McAloon, and he's having a birthday.

So Prefab Sprout, Kings of Leon and Ronnie Spector today, 1 p.m. Mountain Time, Twitch.tv.tv slash coverville. If anyone out there doesn't know the name Ronnie Spector, if you're too young or whatever, think of the 80s song by What's His Name? Can't think of his name? Eddie Money. Take me home tonight. Where he names checks her. And she comes in and sings. And she sings. She gets in there.

She sings. Yeah, she's in there. That was my first introduction to her because I didn't know about it. She sings the refrain from the Ronnette's song, Be My Baby, in that song. Yeah. It was my first introduction to her, and then I went back, and I went oh look at all this cool stuff she's she did she's the voice of the 60s as far as I'm concerned in a bit been a pretty meaningful way certainly one of them right for sure really really good and then watch me play astroneer get my first taste of no man's light no man's light

it'll be great core tonight speaking of video games uh was able to get my hands on a a PS4, or PS5, rather, and a copy of, uh, freaking, what's it called? Ghost of Sushima, the, uh, the addition that's PS5 ready. Anyway, been playing that. You got a PS5 now? Look at you. Yeah, got a, got a source. Pretty excited. Uh, he knows who he is out there. He's one of our listeners. Thank you again, Source. I don't know if he wants me saying. Anyway, I'm very excited about it because now we have, I can actually have a more authoritative take on this generation by having all the consoles for this generation, which is what I try to do for shows like core.

So anyway, a lot to say about that, but also plenty of other things on core. That's tonight with me, John and Bo. You can check us out at 5 p.m. Mountain Time if you want to watch it live at frogpants. tv or you can check the podcast out wherever you get your shows. And a reminder that film sack is happening this weekend. We will be doing. Ah, shit. What are we doing?

Batman begins. Why do I keep forgetting that? Batman begins. 2005 beginning of Christopher Nolan's take on the Batman universe So that's this weekend should be fun Quick shout out to listener Matt Johnson Matthew Johnson not my brother Matt

But the other Matthew Johnson An artist and cool dude in our community Who had an eye thing happen And he's in the middle of some like some surgeries Exploratories and stuff to get it figured out Eyes are important man And I just feel for him having dealt with my own issues With my own eyes

And I just wanted to give him a shout out and wish him the best as he uh it's looking good by the way the uh the doctor felt pretty good about what they what they dug around for and it seems like he's gonna be okay but it's gonna take a while uh he's a he's a rad dude so best of luck in his direction uh that's it for the show uh reminder we get paid by you you're our bosses so pay us patreon dot com slash tms the morning stream at gmail dot com if you have stuff to say if you need anything else it's all linked and housed over there at frogpants.com slash TMS. Okay, Brian, we're out of here.

Do you have a song at the end? Well, yes. And speaking of eyes, Baldur wrote in and said, Hello, Scooby and Benji. I am legally blind. And this January 14th, I turn 48. The last year and a half for me has been incredible for many reasons. In the summer of 2020, I got the news that my application for a guide dog had been accepted.

And in September 2020, Nova came into my life and changed it completely. She's a yellow Labrador retriever, and she's amazing. By the way, there's a link in yesterday's end-of-show stuff, Scott, from Instagram. If you want to show a picture of the day he met, Nova. What's the Instagram account again? More time? It's, well, it's in our show notes from yesterday. You go to yesterday's end-of-show stuff because I accidentally put it in there.

Oh, okay. So we just didn't say it yesterday. Okay. Well, I forgot that I was putting it on today. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll put that. No worries. Here it is. You'll find it while I read.

Yeah. For many years, I've struggled with depression and anxiety, living in Iceland, where the darkest winters only have about four hours of sunlight. I didn't go out much, as I didn't see anything in the dark, or in the sun, for that matter. From my vision, the best weather conditions are gray skies. It took me years to accept my limitations, and about ten years ago, I started to use a white cane to help me get around. That finally opened my eyes, pun intended, to assistive technologies, and how blind and visually impaired should be using these tools for help. It encouraged me to apply for a guide dog. Today I also work at the Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired in Iceland as an accessibility and assistive technology consultant.

This dog is gorgeous. I want this dog. You look so nice. I know. Isn't she a sweetie? Look at her. Oh, man. That's great. After Nova came into my life, she's helped me immensely. We go everywhere together. Weather conditions are no longer a limitation when going outside, although COVID sometimes is. We go for walks every day and listen to TMS. Well, she works and guides me around as I listen to TMS. It's had an incredible effect on my mental and physical health. I've always lived alone, and having someone in your life that you love so deeply and also loves you back so unconditionally has been incredible. I'm looking forward to the coming years of adventures with Nova as we learned to navigate this world together. Could you play us a song on the Thursday show on January 13th?

I always listen to the podcast the next day when we go for our walks, so I would hear it on my birthday. I'll just let Brian find me a good corny song about friendship or something like that. I've been a TMS listener since it started and a Frog Pince listener since. since way back in the ELR days, thank you guys for all the positivity and joy you give, and I'm looking forward to continuing to listen for many more years. Kind regards, Baldur, good luck pronouncing that from Iceland.

I hope I pronounced it right. That's awesome. P.S. There's a photo, blah, blah, blah. There you go. All right, so a good corny song about friendship. Well, how about a good horny song? Well, maybe that's not the right word about friendship. I'm talking about brass instruments,

those kind of horns. What, I don't know what you were thinking. For me people. This is a cover of the Randy Newman's song for Toy Story. You've Got a Friend in Me, performed by Bonorama, probably my favorite brass band, certainly my favorite named bass band. Oh, like by trombones.

I get it. Like trombones, exactly. Bonorama, and here's their cover of You've Got a Friend in Me. You've got a friend in me You've got a friend in me When the road looks rough ahead And you're miles and miles from your nice warm bed Just remember what you'll pass in a boy

You've got a friend in me You've got a friend on me You've got a friend in me You've got a friend in me You got troubles Well, I've got them too There isn't anything I wouldn't do For you

We stick together and we see it through Because you've got a friend in me Yeah, you've got a friend in me Some of my folks might be a little bit smarter than I am Bigger and stronger too But none of them will ever love you the way I do It's me and you And as the years go by

Our friendship will never die You're gonna see it's our destiny Because you've got a friend in me I don't know what I'm going to be. I'm going to be. And so. Some of the folks might be a little bit small than I am. stronger too maybe but none of them will ever love you the way I do it's me and you

born and as the years go by our friendship will never die you gotta see it's our destiny cause you've got a friend in me and you've got a friend in me but you've got a friend in me of raising me This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Choose one large enough for Johnny to see from the back row. Oh, okay.