The Morning Stream - TMS 2253: Growing In the Mullet Region
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Coming up on TMS, uncomable, not uncomfortable.
The jury has not retired.
Dingle-Dop-Fugel-Farf syndrome.
Bob's do-whip.
Putin on the shits.
Bitch, I got a 30-layer PSD.
Not for footloose reasons.
C&C Music Factory with Bill.
Some science with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream for March 1st, 2022, brand new month. Hello, brand new month.
Joining us today as co-host. I'm Scott, by the way. Is Justin Robert Young? What?
Yeah. What? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, son. How did you back? Yeah, he's back. All those rumors of your demise were. A lot of people thought I was dead. A lot of people thought. A lot. Many people are saying, Scott, that, that, you're back.
Justin Robert Young is dead, and I'm here to say, nay.
No, not only you're not dead.
You're so alive that your hair has grown a lot since I saw you last.
You have a lot of hair now.
It has.
You know, my hair is a curious beast, Scott, because it really, it mostly grows in the mullet region.
So for what looks like growth on the sides of my head, I effectively now have, like, hippie long hair,
but it's literally totally blocked by my, like, you can.
I turn my head sideways.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look at that.
But it is a real majestic waterfall of hair in the back of my head.
My wife hates it.
She's very, very upset that I won't get a cut.
And at this point, I'm doing it to spider.
Oh, all right.
Well, nothing like a good spite, a spite hair resistance.
Spite haircut.
Yeah. Don't do it.
I say stick to your guns.
Mine just continues to turn more gray and also not grow very fast.
So that's a new phase I'm in in my life, and that's fine.
This is the first time that you've had like that you're like, oh, so no more reserves, huh?
Like, this is the first time that you're starting to feel that way.
Yeah, like my wife keeps telling me I need to eat these gummies that have like whatever the,
whatever the like basis of hair and nail growth is.
I forgot what it's called.
Oh, I think, yeah, I know it's a keratin.
Might be.
I don't know.
There's these gummies.
She wants me to take them.
I'm like, are you not on the, uh, are you not on, on, on the hymns or, or the keeps or anything like that?
I mean, they got it. They have to have advertised. You can get promo, right? I'm definitely not like, balding, but I'm not. It used to be I'd go like, two weeks in a haircut was mandatory. Now I can go almost a month. And then I'm like, okay. If you wanted to keep that like, that fresh Eisenhower cut. Yeah. You've been, you've been rocking that I've been rocking for so long. Yeah.
Yeah. Since Eisenhower. In fact, he. In fact, he.
handed it off to you well i've been around that long but it feels like it some days uh but anyway
it's a very nice to have you by the way and uh it is it is a joy very very excited uh since uh brian
is on a well-deserved uh vacation and uh i i saw a clip of you saying like oh justin justin would
never do it he's too busy yeah and i immediately hit him hit you up and said you better knock
it off. Of course I can co-host
the show, mostly because I
have to promote the fact that World's Greatest
Con Season 2 is available now.
Again, you know, all your pod, catcher
feeds. We're only three spots behind
my favorite podcast, Cocaine and Rhinestones
on Apple. So if you can see, if everybody in
the chat subscribed on Apple right now,
we would almost certainly pass them
and that would be an amazing thing. So go
ahead, World's Greatest Con Season 2, all about
game shows.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Show cons and scams.
You guys are going to talk about the famous one that they made that, what was that thing?
Ray Fines was in it.
It was, oh, the quiz show.
Quiz show.
Scott, I love quiz show.
I'm so glad that you brought that up because indeed our season two premiere is all about the scandal surrounding the game show 21, which was the basis of the show, quiz show, or the movie quiz show.
I will say this.
The book that we primarily based the research for this episode on was the federal.
prosecutor who did all the work
in that case and almost entirely
wrote that book because he was pissed
off that he was erased entirely
from Quixio.
Yes. It is very
much a book powered by
spite because the
book that they based that movie on
was somebody who was involved in the congressional
hearing, which came very
late in the process. There was like
an entire investigation and stuff
that happened beforehand. And so that's
where we got most of our stuff. And I think we have a very different take than quiz show on kind of
what the power dynamics were. And ultimately that everybody involved in that was risking a lot more
than money and fame when the shows were that big. And they had reputations to uphold that were
obliterated by being made cheaters. Well, if that stuff's interesting to you, and it is to me,
you're going to like this new season, it sounds like. So I didn't realize there were, I mean, I assume
the world of game shows, you know, whatever they are,
everything from $20,000 pyramid to whatever,
all the stuff that was on TV when I was a kid or whatever,
I assumed most of those have some kind of backdoor shenanigans.
And I don't mean like big scandal level,
but none of that stuff is, you know, just pure contest, right?
Well, you know, the first episode is about a producer
who takes liberties with contestants.
Our second episode is about a no name who realizes a zero-day exploit in a game show called Press Your Luck and effectively realizes that he can win money forever.
And there's nothing that anybody can do to stop them.
And so he wins, adjusted for inflation, what still is the single day record for money won on an American game show.
But we got all sorts of stuff.
We have a dude who is a total con artist.
that decides to win some quick cash.
He's going to honestly play a game show and he wins.
We've got a huge scandal that happens with Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
And then the story behind the only perfect bid in the history of the final showcase showdown of the modern Price is Right.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
has some great first-person perspective because there's a bunch of interviews,
there's a documentary about it, and the guy who did it wrote a rambling self-published book
that I read in research for it.
So that is also a great episode.
That's our finale.
I saw that documentary, I believe.
I don't remember the name of it, but I saw it.
That's the guy.
The man who knew too much?
Yeah, and they had the whole, oh, no, that's the,
That's the millionaire one where the guys whistling or yelling out in the audience, right?
Which I get them mixed up.
Coughing.
Coughing.
Coughing, that's what it was.
No, that's a great one.
We have an episode on that.
If you are not familiar with it, you are in for a treat because that is, we've spent a lot of time.
Season 1, a world's greatest con went all into Operation Mincemeat, which was the British government's con job on Hitler that effectively helped secure the war in Italy.
that is about as complex and high stakes
of an opportunity for a con that you will have
by far the dumbest
that we have ever covered on this series
and maybe the dumbest that will ever cover on this series
is the who wants to be a millionaire
a con which makes a smash and grab
look like knives out
that's a great description
there's a documentary for that as well right
somewhere that people can get
I mean listen to you don't know what?
actually didn't write the initial draft of that script because editing and writing for two episodes
this season is the winner of America's next top podcaster Will Sattelberg.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Joined our team here at Dog and Pony Show and worked really, really hard, was great on two
of those episodes, and that was one of them. So he actually did all the research on that one.
That's awesome. I forgot he was doing that. That's great. That's very cool to hear.
well since you've been gone and I have to play this now
since you've been gone jury some things have happened
and I wanted to go through this list real quick and get your hot takes
so in this new segment that we'll never do again called
omicron dipped to its lowest level and is still dipping
so when you did it when you left things were gnarly yep that's it no more COVID
right it accomplished yeah we're all done
get out the boat
and George Bush
and a giant sign
mission accomplished
farewell
Omicron
another thing that happens
It's a boat
It's just a boat
It's not an aircraft carrier
It's a boat
Whatever boat
You can get your hands on
Just grab a boat
In a banner
And mission
Accomplish it
Understatements
I like to make them
Sometimes
And it's definitely
I mean you could quantify
It's a boat
Right
It's a boat
Technically a boat
No it's it's a boat
Sure
It's just not a very big, you know, a small boat.
A whale is a mammal.
The moon is a, I don't know.
The moon's a rock.
A rock.
There you go.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is actually kind of like this game.
All right.
Russia invaded Ukraine.
There's a recent event happen.
So that's a big deal.
That was a biggie.
That was a biggie.
The biggest land incursion in Europe since World War II.
and boy, does Europe get fussy about that?
Yeah, they don't like that.
They have, I think, a pretty strong memory of that time, don't you think?
Doesn't it feel like they're like...
Yeah, often forgotten in history, World War II.
I feel like people don't bring it up as a metaphor.
Yeah, we don't still refer to the war very often.
No, yeah.
I think the information and personalities surrounding World War II, you know,
a bit of a deep cut in our modern era,
certainly isn't thrown around willy-nilly.
Do you are, okay, I will ask you this before we move on.
Are you surprised at the, I don't know if I'd call it a miscalculation.
It feels like Russia felt very strongly about their propaganda machine and felt very strongly that this was the time to do this.
And that if they were ever going to get away with this slash, achieve whatever goals Putin has, that this time was going to be ripe for that.
But instead, I mean, everyone is shutting the money.
down like people he thought were allies are like yeah we're not we're not down with this and
you know like let's see we're we are we are still early in the game and and you know there
were some backsliding from the EU this morning about sending planes to uh sending planes to
ukraine so uh you know obviously this is very very fluid let me also say uh thank you
everybody for joining the number one most trusted and respected foreign policy
podcast, all of what we say should be taken as very well-researched opinion.
That being said, I think for Putin, well, no, I have no idea.
Because, all right, take it from somebody that, through the run-up to this, was called
and responded to opportunities to talk about American politics on a Russian propaganda
a channel for Russia today.
Really? That's, I don't know why that's, I didn't know this. Keep going. Sorry.
I never talked about this. I talked, because they would do these like, you know, like,
Ted Cruz says, Blap, what do you think, American?
Sure.
And I would talk about whatever, mostly the stuff that I normally talk about on PX3.
But when I would go, I've been doing those hits for about a year. And normally, when I come
on, if it's a live hit, then I'll watch.
what their programming is for about
10 minutes beforehand as they
get everything together.
Sure. Normally it would be some combination
of European news
or I would say
probably right
leaning to Fox Newsy
kind of like slants
on American political news
specifically. In the last
week before everything
popped off, everything
that they did was
this is not a thing
Russia's not invading.
The only reason why this is happening
is because Biden's in trouble
politically and Boris Johnson's in trouble
politically. Total fake news.
Absolute nonsense.
Let's all laugh at the Americans.
Well, that was not the case.
So it's not like
they were using their propaganda channels
to grease the wheels and talking
the way they're talking now about
Nazis running
Kiv and
Zelensky being a drug addict.
and blah, blah, blah, blah.
So, like, I have no idea.
I have no idea whether or not
that this was a change of direction.
I have no idea whether or not
they were just uncharacteristically sloppy
in thinking about how fast this could go.
But I will say Putin's in,
he's in some very interesting territory
because we are in, we're in like the Hague neighborhood
at this point.
Like, the human rights council is,
you know, pointed out things that shouldn't happen again that are probably going to continue
happening. And, you know, he is, he is not there yet, but certainly, because it takes a lot for
a world leader to get to like, we're going to remove you or now this is like a permanent
sanctions kind of thing. But he's, he's trending toward super-sized Slobodan Milosevic.
Yeah, pretty bad. It's also strikes me is the big difference this time around as compared to
say World War II, and I'm not comparing these two events necessarily, but it is the biggest
land incursion in Europe since then, like you mentioned. The big difference that I can see
is that while his tactics feel familiar in terms of aggression, the differences we now live
in a world where every single person has not just a camera, multiple cameras, and a giant
interconnected network where we can communicate these things. So if a Russian tank is going
to swerve and try to run over an old man in his car, we're going to have video of it.
it whereas that didn't exist
yeah
1943 so yeah
I think I think also the
the this is a materially
larger grab than he has done
in the past you know if you're going to look at
what Putin has done
throughout his career even reaching back to
1999 there was the Chechens in
Grosny
which was an
the Russian public was fairly unsympathetic toward
because of terror concerns at the time
then you have Georgia
you have Crimea
Crimea
is a very complicated land
that was already
kind of in a weird joint custody
situation that Russians really like to
vacation in. So him
annexing Crimea is something that
is not what this is.
This is toppling the government
with military force
in a country of 40 million people
next door that are next door to NATO
nations. This is
a materially
larger move
for him beyond what
the actual fallout is.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Well, since you've been gone,
Justin Breyer announced his retirement.
We don't have to talk about that much, but that happened.
We did?
Yeah, Justice Breyer, right?
Didn't he say he's going to retire?
Yeah, yeah, Justice Breyer and Kintaghi Brown Jackson
has been nominated in his stead to be the first black woman on the Supreme Court.
First public defender as well, or do I have that wrong?
I believe so.
And first sister-in-law of Paul Ryan.
Oh.
geez i didn't know that that's a trip yeah what's what's thanksgiving like around there i wonder that's
interesting all right uh yeah no he he congratulated her and and uh was was supportive of her said that
they don't particularly uh see eye to eye on politics but he's thrilled that a member of his family
was being nominated to the supreme court there you go uh there was uh other stuff a few things here
massive eruption in a volcano and tonga happened betty white died while you were gone uh dude right i mean
And right as she was, there was about to be a big Betty White celebration, huh, for the 100th anniversary.
You had that unfortunate people magazine cover like.
It was like a week before.
Totally.
That sucks.
That sucks.
I think days.
Yeah.
Okay.
That sucks.
Bob Dole.
Bob Dole says he's out.
Done.
Goodbye.
Wow.
What was that after?
Yeah.
Bob Dole, a man, it was so great to go having a.
excuse to go back and watch old Viagra commercials and then also the fact that i i think it is a lost
moment in political history that during the super bowl they had the big brittany spears ad that ended
with just bob dole sitting by himself in a room watching it where the joke is that he has a
boner like the end of this commercial which cost millions of dollars to create and play
place on the air during the commercial was about an old man's boner.
And then they did another ad that was specifically designed to feel like a Viagra ad,
but it was Bob Dold talking about like, well, you know, like I like to feel young and vital,
thanks to my blue friend, and it's a pan of Pepsi instead, but another boner joke.
Yeah.
We really had a great time.
For a guy that bombed so hard during election day, we sure did love talking about his penis.
Yeah, we loved his penis.
We miss his penis.
I loved it.
Yeah.
We do.
And we miss it.
Bless up.
Yeah.
To Bob Dole's penis.
May it be looking down on all of us right now from heaven.
Yep.
Everybody may it be.
And may it be looking up while it's there.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't want to look it down.
Yeah.
Dude.
Rock, rock solid.
Rock solid.
Even after death.
Let's see what else.
Oh, they found.
Hell of peace, Bob.
Yeah.
So I got a question.
for you here.
Yeah.
Well, let me tell you this.
So we got a, I got a list of things.
I got a list of everyone's favorite things jury has ever said on the show.
And they happen to be.
Am I dying?
No, no, no.
This is all just a good welcome back to jury kind of moment here.
That's all we got.
So here's, so here is your top nine jury quotes.
All right.
This is some great content.
Now, this list also might happen to coincide with the total number of jury quotes that I have.
Okay.
So not only were you voted, these is the best nine, they are the only nine that I have.
These are just the ones you have on your board.
These are the ones I have on my board.
They just happen to also be voted by the thousands of people who voted.
In a totally separate vote amongst everything I've ever said in the years that I did at TMS, these were the top nine.
These were the top nine.
So here we go.
And they're not all necessarily from TMS.
A couple of these might be from something else.
But here's number one or here's number 10 or number nine, I should say.
Wild Bill Clinton
scandalizing these youths with his penis.
Ah, no, let's see, the penis of Bill Clinton.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Number eight on that list.
You son of a bit.
That's a good one.
It's a good one.
I feel like that.
That was that an unfriend me intro?
I feel like that sounds like an unfriend me.
Might have been.
There might have been a couple of these that are that.
No, that was the angry voice.
I don't think I've ever found another place to put that angry voice.
But people, people did.
like the angry the angry internet voice yeah your fake angry guy who wants to unfriend you is
pretty legendary around here so pretty good one i got to find another place to find a use for that
oops i already played that all right here's number seven uh i don't it's just a weird noise
all right so there's that number six coming in it hot at number seven i'm on monopoeia right
there oh yeah kind of hold on i should play it backwards it'll probably say uh love satan
whatever some kind of backwards masking here you are talking about penises again
remove the penis before you snort it.
Don't know what that is.
Don't remember.
You just like it when I say penis on the show and you like to cook it out.
I mean, I'm starting to wonder myself.
I feel like we're seeing a, we're seeing a pattern here.
But, yeah, there we go.
Yeah, I definitely.
Now, some of these, some of these less so, like this one.
You are, you are, you are, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, the straw man comment.
That's good.
I love, oh, geez.
every once in a while.
I feel like I've gotten over most of my childhood stutter,
but boy, when it needs to arise, boy does it.
I like, oh, I'm really glad that it was me that brought that up for you,
not knowing you out of childhood stutter.
All right.
I think comedically, it actually kind of works sometimes.
Yeah, I agree.
It's part of your timing.
All right, here's one of my favorite things you ever say,
and you say it sometimes.
Here it is.
And that's why the media's doing meat, mop, moop.
Yeah, I like that.
Meat mop, moup.
fact i think i use that sometimes that's that's a crutch uh meat mop moup or bleep blot blorp that's that's
another that's another favorite of mine is bleep blop blop blarp yeah i think that's just a better
version of yada yada yada yada really it is it's pretty good though um all right here's one you telling
something about tom not knowing words i don't know where this came from but here it is tom don't
know the words tom don't know the words don't know voted his number uh no no i'll tell you exactly
where that was from yeah uh that was when i was covering the primary in 2020 i was in south
carolina covering the tom steyer event yeah where juvenile uh rapper was performing and he was doing
back that ass up and uh um tom styer his wife and his kids all came up on stage to dance along
with him and there was a dude next to me that uh looked at his friend and said tom don't
know the words.
Which that's true.
I don't believe that Tom Steyer did know the words.
I forgot about that video is amazing.
Him dancing up there.
Incredible stuff.
Oh, it just, I mean,
there's a lot,
a lot to be said about Tom Steyer
and his wife's dancing.
Yeah, a gift of humanity.
All right, here's the,
this is my favorite.
It came in at number two,
but this is my favorite.
All right, here you go.
We're going to crypto coin.
God damn it.
A little bit of Alex Jones there.
I think. I think is what you're doing.
Yeah.
Yeah. And also good words to live by. Everybody loves the crypto.
Oh, people love the crypto. NFTs. You even mention those and the room erupts in joyful praise.
No one cannot get excited.
Laughing and singing and saying like praise beat to NFTs.
Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I think I figured. So this morning I got a notice on Twitter. Open the app.
First thing I see is you've been locked out of your account. It's in the app. So it's not like an email or a fake thing.
or whatever. And I read it
and it says DMCA
takedown was issued. They don't tell you what or
what tweet or anything. They tell you
nothing. At least YouTube tells you what video is
in violation. They don't tell me.
So
the only thing I can think of is
Nintendo lately has gotten super
litigious with artists and I did
a picture of Kirby wearing pants
and I have a feeling
that might have been in. I will
say that I think you
get a link to the tweet
if you're getting suspended.
Like if you get put in Twitter jail,
then they'll let you know that,
or they'll give you the option to delete it
and you can get access to your account back.
Yeah.
But yeah, the DMCA ones, I mean, I don't know.
What is the point of them, though?
Like, if they're not going to tell me
what I need to remove or not do again,
what's the point of it?
Like, I don't even...
It might have also just been a fart in the system
where, you know, somebody updated the wrong data
table and next thing you know you've got
a DMCA thing with no link
could be that's possible I suppose
well it annoyed me anyway
Twitter because normally
having gotten a false DMCA
on Twitch once
the DMCA notices are supposed
to tell you who DMCA'd you
yeah so you can they don't say
what it's for usually
on YouTube they do because that's part of the process
but usually
you should know who it is so if there was
nothing there then
you know
I wouldn't pay much mind to it
but maybe it was it wouldn't let me in
until I agreed to Twitter's terms of
a service once more I had to do it in the app
and then I could get in
but all the other apps
renew your faith to Twitter
yeah
my fealty had to kneel
bend the knee again to them
do you solemnly swear
to shit post
with the utmost feracity
take all arguments
as if they're really seriously
and to routinely
miss that
jokes are for real statements
click here. Welcome back to Twitter.
Yeah, welcome back to Twitter. Your home.
Your home. F those guys. All right, number one,
the big number one, all time, everyone loves this one.
I think I know this one. Oh, you do? Okay.
I think there's not
there's not much that would top
one of one of the funniest stories but play the clip
oh may not this may not be it because it's really short
let me play it here it is oh yeah
that's everyone's favorite
oh wow no no boodle deedle do
nope no boodle deedle do do i mean we have boodle deedle do
but i think the reason that people didn't vote or it didn't win was because
that thing got played every tuesday and i think they just saw it as like part
of the tap it out it got played out yeah or it just became
no that was that's just that's just you know that's that's unfriend me uh Scott
why did you uh why did you cancel unfriend me in the instance on the same day yeah i don't know if you
guys knew this i went i just bulldozed everything that day and just said eff it the instance took
longer because they had sold ads for three more years oh man i wish that was that was the call
was made on the same day i wish that was true no the yeah that was uh that's another weird thing
to happen while while you were gone was uh last week i i ended the instance you ended the instance
number one in all in all seriousness
of amazing run
I mean just just an epic amazing run
you are
I said that you were a Hall of Fame podcaster
I then found out that there is an actual
podcasting Hall of Fame that you are actually in
I was just stating a fact
or no no I said that the instance was a Hall of Fame
podcast you are a Hall of Fame podcaster
Did you really say that not knowing
that I was in the podcasting Hall of Fame
at the time that you said it. Did you not know that?
I did not know that there was a podcast. That's really funny.
I didn't know that there was a podcasting Hall of Fame. No.
Well, because I don't know. Maybe it should be incumbent upon the Hall of Fame to, I don't know,
keep that front of mind for people.
Completely agree. Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think some of that stuff is goofy and I'm never.
Otherwise, like what the hell's, I mean, I don't know. I don't want to denigrate too much
because I just heard the other day that a friend of ours is going in and another friend of
ours is inducting her but uh yeah so i don't want to denigrate it too much because i i i do
like everybody involved in that situation and it is an honor yeah uh but uh yeah no i i i in all
seriousness man the instance is just uh a a a staple and i i want to congratulate you on a that
achievement and b uh the fact that now you're going to have more free time to do more stuff that
other people are really, really, really going to like.
And that's what I think sometimes when you cancel things,
like you unceremoniously did with unfriend me,
that I just begged you and screamed to not have you cancel,
but you were just like, no, Justin, absolutely, I'm very mean.
I hate my audience.
I'm canceling my friend me.
That what in reality that does is it opens up a lot of free space and time
because podcasting is like there's not a lot of other arts
where you like do a thing and people like it
and then that means you do it for the rest of your life.
Yeah, that's weird. It's weird. Regardless of
what you're doing and where you're at in life
and what's happened. It's just no, people like it
and now they will do it and now you will do it forever.
And I think sometimes it is, not sometimes,
it is very, very healthy to just say, look,
sometimes time comes, time goes.
If you like the mind behind it, then you're going to really like what comes next.
Yeah, that's, or what's even happening currently.
Like, there's a lot of really great stuff happening.
Cours popping off like crazy.
If you're looking for the spirit of the instance, it kind of lives there now.
Like, there's a lot to, there's a lot to listen to now.
And yeah, you're right, I get more time.
And despite my allergy to compliments, which I truly have in life, I hate him.
I appreciate you saying that, number one.
And number two, nobody should believe what word Justin says about unfriend me.
I did not cancel this show.
It was just, I was crying.
I'm like, Scott, why would you do this?
Like, not even to me, but the people.
And he just says, like, you know what?
I'm cancel it on friend me.
Screw you, hippie.
And I was like, that's weird that you're doing my voice.
That's, all of this might have been me in the mirror now that I'm thinking about it.
This might have been me.
It might not have been Scott.
Oh, now I get it.
I cancel them to friend me.
Send me all your hate mail.
Send all your hate mail to Justin, but you made them all happy because everybody all week's been going,
oh, Justin's going to be there Tuesday. Can you make him do an unfriend me voice? And you just did it. So nicely done.
There we go. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody wins. All right. Well, well done. Now, Justin, join us for a little bit of news.
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All right.
Justin, some news for you.
Here, let's break down.
I mean, I know you're involved in the, you know, political upheaval every day.
But today we're going to talk about the need to raise awareness of the diagnosed syndrome known as uncomfortable hair syndrome.
Have you heard of this?
No, but now that I have more hair, I am very uncomfortable with it.
So maybe I could be diagnosed with this.
Maybe you have it and you just never knew it.
Do you think I can get on the plane early?
Maybe.
If I have this.
Maybe.
I would like this a lot.
I would like to have some kind of inoffensive, low grade disability that just gives me like
very basic privileges over my friends.
Sure.
You could probably at Walmart, you can drive one of those little scooter things.
You want to do that?
I would like to have a little scooter.
I would like to really not even one of their scooters.
I want to drive one of like the bird or lime scooters.
That's really what I want.
I'm not sure this disability will get you there.
I'm going to be able to drive a little go-kart through just a gas-powered go-kart through Walmart.
It might work.
A Georgia mom is on a mission to spread joy and raise awareness after her one-year-old son was diagnosed with uncomfortable hair syndrome, an actual thing.
It's a hair disorder she had never heard of until last year.
The boy's mother, Caitlin, Samples, told, Good Morning America that a stranger messager last summer on Instagram after seeing a photo of her youngest son, Lockton, Samples.
Lockland samples
It's an odd name
I love it
It's fine
His name?
Is Lockland samples
I thought that was like a medical
statement
Yeah
Like Johnson
Get me the Lockland samples
Bring the samples in
God as he holds it up to the x-ray thing
Yeah it's ah it's Jason Bourne
Anyway says
Ask if you have been diagnosed
With uncomfortable hair syndrome
At first you see syndrome
And you're like oh my gosh
Like something's wrong with my baby
Is he in pain or something
Samples were called
again, her name is samples.
She added, I just went into a tailspin and did a Google deep dive, called his pediatrician,
and the pediatrician was like, hang on, let us look at this.
They hadn't heard of it either.
So they sent us to a specialist, a pediatric dermatologist, at Emroy in Atlanta, and they were able to get the diagnosis.
Now, I'm going to recommend people, click this link, or adjusting me, I want to look at it.
Look at this kid's hair.
Like, it's kind of badass, but apparently this is a real thing.
and is you know worthy of its own diagnosis i'm not laughing at the kid i promise it's just a lot of
hair in a very uncomfortable confusing way and i don't know how oh man yeah no he looks like yahoo
serious yeah he does maybe yah maybe yahoo serius had that i don't know yeah he's got like like
teased out um like in fact his hair kind of looks like one of the
those big Russian hats.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like it has that similar kind of like shape to it.
Almost like a semi-translucent Russian hat.
It is semi-translucent as well.
I mean, it looks badass.
So wait, all right.
This is one of my favorite things to do in the world, which is diagnosed.
Why is this a story?
Right.
And to me, this is a story for two reasons.
It's specifically a television story because the hair looks awesome.
It looks cool.
Yeah.
So is the kid in pain?
No, according to this, there's no pain involved.
Even better.
The problem can be you end up what people end up doing when they're younger,
according to what I read, is they shave it and they just keep shaving it.
They're just like, I'm not really bald, but if I let it grow,
you'd all think there was something wrong with me.
So I'm just going to shave my head my whole life.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I think it looks great.
I think it's cool.
Yeah, I think the other reason why this is a story is because it has one of the worst names for a
disease ever, right?
Like, normally, like, it's named
after somebody. It'd be like
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
flugel far syndrome or whatever, and, uh, that would just be,
and then, like, oh, like, otherwise known as, uh, a crazy hair disease or
whatever. That's what we called it in the 1800s when we thought it was a black
humors that caused it.
But, but, but, you know, you'd have like a fancy name for it, but, but, but,
It's called Uncomfortable Hair Syndrome.
And so you're like, oh, immediately, it's a very evocative name.
You're thinking like, oh, is it like when my scalp is itchy?
Is it like when the hair isn't falling in the right place?
No, it just makes him kind of look like he got electrified.
It's like, I don't know.
I don't know what I'm looking for here.
But like there was Asperger's, I guess we don't do that anymore.
But yeah, name it after somebody.
It can't be Yahoo serious because then you just call it the serious disease.
That's not good.
There's lots of serious diseases, right?
Scott, you've raised three children.
And so I am woefully inexperienced to answer this.
But if you had a baby and that baby had that hair, would you wait until somebody on
Instagram said, hey, there's something wrong with that kid's hair before you poked into it?
Well, he's all of, let's see, how old is he?
He's only one year old when he got the diagnosis.
I would have probably not known either or have been not.
You just would have thought it's like, oh, well, this baby's got crazy hair.
Yeah, my daughter had crazy hair when she was born.
I wouldn't call it this, but it was crazy enough to, we always remarked that, you know,
Carter had crazy hair and why is her hair so weird?
And her sister didn't have weird hair like that.
And then by the time she was, I don't know, three or four, it became ruling and normal.
Yeah.
But had this thing like persisted or been, you know, or was something that somebody had to bring up to me.
I mean, I don't know.
I probably would have done like she did.
I would have gone, what?
Really?
Is that a thing?
Then I would have looked it up.
And then I would have gone to a pediatrician and said, is this?
I feel like you would have done content about it.
Oh, hell yeah.
Hell would have just been like, look at the crazy hair on this baby.
Yeah.
Look at baby crazy hair.
And then it would have been an actual disease and you would have been like, oh, oh, oh, shit.
Yeah, no, I totally would have done that.
I would have made content and then I would have had a little bit of guilt.
And then I would have made the content and called it awareness after that.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Hashtag awareness.
Yeah, hashtag uncomfortable hair awareness.
Change your bios and update.
your profile pictures with the appropriate
frame. Yep. If anyone
says anything about the old stuff, I'd just say
oh, I have regrets. And also
please go to OpenC and buy
an NFT of my crazy babysitter.
Oh, I hate
how true that is that you just said that.
5,000 limited Ethereum
proof of stake. I've told Tom
this and others this on different shows and stuff.
I don't think I've told you
I had two separate people.
I say people could have been
I don't know, could have been fake, could have been bots.
I don't know. It doesn't matter. But they came to me trying to sell me my own artwork as freshly minted NFTs. And if I didn't get them, then somebody else would sort of deal. And I kept thinking, okay, well, I get that now, potentially, they probably weren't. But I get that they're on the blockchain, in theory, and that you've done all this. And now there are these unique things on the blockchain. But I'm like, bitch, I've got a PSD about 30 layers thick where I created this thing in the first place in 2012.
Well, really, that's a dumb thing for them because alerting you to it gives you the power to totally devalue it.
Right. It does. You're right. And that's why I don't, that's why I don't think it was real.
You go out there and say, hey, these are worthless. I did not consent to them.
So you were cutting off the largest audience that would buy it, which is fans of yours.
And you can just say, hey, these will always be cursed things. I'm not doing NFTs. If I ever do them, then you will know from me.
that I'm doing it, not from anybody.
Yeah, I'll be the guy to let you know, you dummies.
But basically, you just tank the value on all of these JPEGs.
Yeah, pretty weird how that worked out.
All right, one final story before we take our song break today.
Ukrainian president, Valdemir Zelensky.
I hope I'm saying it right.
Vladimir, I think it's Vladimir.
Is it Vladimir?
Is V-O-L-D-V-O-D-V-O-D-V-O-D-Lododomier.
Look, man, you want to go to Kiev and argue about it?
No, I barely want to go to Kiev.
He won't dancing with the stars over there.
Oh, yeah, I didn't know that. Is that true?
Dude, there's a great clip of just the montage of all of his dances, which you know, I don't know if he won.
They said on the internet he won, but like, who knows?
He's on Twitter.
But he had to be in there for a while because there was like a ton of dances.
That man, and he's got moves.
I had no idea.
Well, this is even weirder.
He was the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian version of Paddington 1 and 2 in that country.
I don't know what?
I feel like we're in reruns because I feel like.
I didn't know the Dancing with the Stars thing
but everything else I learned
at some point
during the impeachment
because that does sound very, very
familiar. Oh, maybe, maybe because
yeah, he was at the center of that.
He was in the news a lot
with the impeachment and
and
I watched the first half of the
pilot of the show that
launched him into political success
yeah. Serving of the people.
I've got notes.
I've got notes.
So I know. I know.
he's busy right now.
But when you've
wrapped that up and assuming you're survived
that you survived and you're not in
a Siberian detention center
getting your balls electrocuted.
I've got some notes.
I'm not saying I need to be the front of the list.
Zelensky, I'm saying
appropriately in the back.
And then we'll just talk about some
ways that you could tighten up that show that
you made 15 years ago.
Who is this dog and pony show, he'll say
to his people. Exactly. Yeah.
Yeah. Come on over here.
let's make a podcast oh my gosh can you imagine if you landed that deal you'd be that'd be
the end of justin for us podcast everybody would throw roses at oh my gosh you'd be
suddenly joe rogan would be just put put down they just put him down they would they would they
would he would uh he would heal he would heal to my power oh man all right by the way can i just
say something real quick about spotify podcasts those a holes over there don't refresh artwork so
if you do a new version of your album art, which is just part of the RSS feed, which they're all pulling from to get new episodes anyway, they also pull from that URL to say, here's the art for it.
And so everyone displays their square version of your album art on every service everywhere, including them when you first sign up.
But if you change the damn artwork, Spotify caches that line and never changes it.
So if you could have 10 renditions of your art and over the last five years and the one from five years ago is all you're going to see on Spotify.
It annoys me like, wait, really?
Yes, yes.
I'm pretty sure.
I've been fighting this right now and it sucks.
They won't, I can't get anyone to fix it.
And they're still showing art for a film sack, for example.
Our new art is live.
Is it new for?
They used to have the old one.
By Garrett, by the way.
Oh, right, Garrett, you know, he told me.
The original and the new one, but yeah, no, it's new on there.
Well, then what the heck, man?
Why, what the, what the, what the frick?
All right.
I mean, look, there's a lot of reason to be frustrated with Spotify in terms of their, their podcasting stuff.
But, you know, right now, they took the mantle from Apple.
They're the number one podcasting clearinghouse.
Oh, are they now?
Is it because of that, the Joe Rogan, like, exclusivity show stuff type stuff, do you think?
You think that's what did it?
I mean, you know, and also Apple has like went three decades not giving a crap about this thing that they totally owned and they did not care about.
They, like, a month ago, they were like, oh, we're going to do paid things and you can subscribe on Apple.
And it's like, well, that's stupid late.
Why don't you do better things to your product?
And then maybe people will want to buy things.
And Apple was like, ah, you are.
poor let's go make another
iPhone and they all went
over and made an iPhone that I also purchased
but yeah
Apple has not cared about
podcasting and Spotify really does
care about it and is spending a lot of money on it
it's just a shame that they've decided to jam
the experience into an app that is optimized
to do another thing. Yeah I don't
love the experience over there I'll have
to admit. Not a huge fan
but we're old man
we're like the
the wildlings beyond the wall like
We are very set in our ways.
We like our podcatchers, very specific with our specific things, kids.
I saw you asking yesterday, what was the overall poll winner?
I think Pocketcast looked like it was winning, did it for you when you asked on Twitter?
You know, I haven't gone back and I can just scroll through and just be like,
I don't know, let me, let me sample it.
It's just me like walking through the streets.
Like, I just kind of feel like Bell and Beauty and the Beast.
People are just shouting from their windows, like, pocketcast, don't cast.
Overcast, Apple, Spotify, YouTube.
And then there's my brother, the comedic one, my little brother, just discordant at the end of the block.
Just like an old drunk tumbles from behind a dumpster.
It just goes, SoundCloud.
That's great.
I like the SoundCloud guy.
I like your brother.
I think that's funny.
My little brother is the only person who primarily listens to podcasts on SoundCloud.
That's amazing.
SoundCloud's great for hosting that stuff, but who would, I don't know if I could use it to
listen to him. That'd be weird. Oh, I have no, no idea.
I don't either. No idea that he is, and he has a podcast, too. It's not like, anyway, my brother's
weird, but, uh, it's all right. We all have some. I think it was primarily, like, our audience
has an over-representation of, uh, pocketcast and, uh, downcast and an overcast. I think those,
those are the three most popular non-big things. And then other than that, a lot of people on
YouTube. People love podcasts on
YouTube. They just put it on the background and
yeah, which is weird because
the reason I got banned from YouTube is because I was putting
film sacks up there and
boy, talk about your DMCA freak out. I was using just like
fair use, single short clips of
like Arnold Schwarzenegger making a single line
from the movie we were covering or whatever
and they shut down my freaking account
for that. So that show never goes on there anymore, but all the rest of them are
just copies of what we're doing right now. Like
I'm recording us so I can put it up there after
and I'm always surprised how many people
want to just throw it up there and let it play
I don't know why, just not my thing
we put up on Modern Rogue
the
premiere of World's Greatest Con and the teaser
both of which have a clip
of Britney Spears performing baby
one more time live
and not a flag
no ding
nary a ding
I don't know I feel like
once you hit about a million
subs, they quit giving you shit. I don't know. I don't know how it works.
You think you're persecuted? I think that I'm at my lowly, since I really don't focus much on
YouTube, my lowly 16,000 followers or whatever it is over there, I don't think they are happy
to target me, but anywhere where there's like real ad business happening, I think they're like,
well, maybe a little softer glove over here in this category. I don't know. I think because
all that's automated these days. Yeah, it's a lot of robots. You're right. If it recognizes, also, we've
gotten dinged for
step before
in season
one
we make
we make a
comparison to
a Nazi official
being incompetent
and call
him the
George Costanza
of the Nazis
and then
play the
Seinfeld
theme
the like
and that got
flagged
by YouTube
and so
we had to
change it
to a royalty
free
version
of
the Seinfeld theme.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Those are the worst,
the royalty-free versions.
Because it's like,
instead of bair-p-p-b-b-b-r-b-r-b-r-b-r-b-r-r.
Like, it's all, it's like the same instrument.
Also, it doesn't, it actually worked for the Seinfeld thing,
because that dude did it live.
Right.
Like, he scored Seinfeld live.
So, like, there are certain hits that we remember.
But in every episode, he was doing wacky stuff.
So it's like, you know, the fact that this one was a wackier thing.
It's like, people got it.
It's like,
George Costanza.
Mep, me, ma'm like, you kind of got, you got this far as we're going to do.
Okay.
As long as it worked, that's all we need.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
When we come back to this here show, we're going to spend a little bit of time with Bill Duran.
I was going to talk about making stuff today.
We don't know what, but it'll be great.
I'm sure of it.
And then we'll have a science segment with Bobby.
So stick around.
This is what we replaced Justin with.
We have two segments on a Tuesday now.
There we go.
Yeah.
That's so, a guy's so big.
It took two people to fill his hole.
Oh, wait a minute.
That was the wrong way to say that.
Anyway, I regret nothing.
Let's go ahead and play you a song.
This week I get to choose all the stuff
because Brian's out of town
and I am deciding to go a little Utah connection here.
Utah Connection.
There's a band here in Utah called The Aces,
and it's made up of, I believe,
four total lovely young women
who make great music and I really like them.
I feel like they represent our state really well
in terms of like the cool indie scene of music that's here
that no one ever knows about.
And I don't know.
I describe them as sort of,
of indie pop. They make a song called 801, which is all about growing up in Salt Lake
City, which I totally jive to because, again, I'm, I like my hometown, and I think there's
a lot of stuff in that song that is like bidingly cool. Anyway, it's the Aces. It's their song
801. You can get on their whole album called, hold on, I was going to give them an album pimp here.
Here we go. Under My Influence is the name of the song, or the album. So I definitely would
recommend checking out the entire album. It's very good.
So here are the Aces.
We'll be right back.
Growing up in the 801, there's only one club, so we blow it up.
Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes, but bring your guilt and we're going to let it go.
Quarter to 12 on a Saturday night
Hit in a jade while we wait in night
Let's leave all those things that we were top behind
Because we and ourselves can never be a crime
So what is your mama thinking
So what is your daddy think?
Forget what they think, forget what they think, yeah
Growing up in the 801
There's only one club, so we go with us
Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes
But bring your guilt and we're gonna let it go
Give me a morning
Gonna rock to the rhythm that brings our rebels and get higher and higher
And higher
Give me a morning, gonna rock to the rhythm
That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
I am
me and my girl
with the stars of the show
everyone
watches us out on the floor
I silver and see
while she gets me a drink
and I love a soul
so I don't care what they think
because that's how it goes
there's not a soul that don't know
yeah that's how we roll
Growing up in the 801
There's only one club
So we go it on
Leave your churches and your Sunday close
But bring your guilt and we're going to let it go
Give me a morning
Gonna rock till the rhythm
That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
Give me a money
Gonna rock till the rhythm
That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
And higher
Growing up in the 801, 801.
Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes
But bring your guilt and we won't let it go
You me and monie
Gonna rock to the rhythm
That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
Give me and moni
Gonna rock to the rhythm
That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
And higher
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her name is the morning stream and she dances on the sand
and we're back everybody once again that was the Aces with 801 from their album
under my influence do check it out if you have a moment they stream everywhere you can
get your music YouTube as well I wish I could play those songs live because
that song's really good and I'd like to hear it is it yeah
I love it. I love it.
And your best impression of it, Brighton, just the chorus.
I'm not going to sing it because I'm terrible at it.
Maybe like, like, we're not like singing, just like the melody.
Like you can just like.
All right, I'll tell you what, I'll do this.
Even though people at home already heard it, I'm pausing YouTube, because they're the ones that get me in trouble.
And I'm going to play just.
No, no, no.
You should do it with your mouth.
That's the fun part.
That's the worst part.
I'm never doing that.
No, that's exactly.
That's why it's great.
Like, I had a thing on the jury podcast for a while where I was the undisputed king of mouth.
Yeah.
I did mouth guitar like nobody's business.
Yeah.
He just gave me a song and I would do the, the guitar solo with my mouth.
And then people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Well, I could wrap it.
I could say, because she has such a cute little, like, great voice.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Maybe just the guitar.
Uh, growing up in the 801.
Uh, let's see.
going blowing up the club because there's only one or something like i can't remember the
lyric it's really you got to hear this song because it's great it like rips on my state and
throws love at my state at the same time it's amazing it's amazing so you like you like it because
it's well written i like it it's also super uh catchy yeah it's got it's like how how do it go
gosh dang it you're still trying to get me to do it all right i'm going to do this i'm serious here
listen just a taste
okay no I don't really want to hear it
there's only one club
so we blow it up all right there you go
that's it there's only one club
so we blow it up and they're wrong there are more than one
club but that's it's funny because
they say there's only one oh and they
say any club defender
Scott Johnson
watch out man don't slander the
the population of clubs
for old bottle service Johnson
over here he is
He is a fixture at all of the clubs, and there are multiple in Salt Lake City.
Yeah.
He is king of the VIP.
We're lousy with clubs now.
All right.
Punish Props incoming.
We're going to get our old pal Bill in.
I don't even know if he knew you were going to be here today.
So this would be a nice treat for Bill, I would assume.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we'll find out shortly, but I've got to play this first.
Where's this thing?
Here it is.
Your bat caves open there, Bill.
Bill Duran joins us from Punish Props.com from the Pacific Northwest and his home
studio where he makes all kinds of cool stuff, which we'll talk about today. Justin and I are
very excited to see you, Bill. How are you? Yeah, Bill. I'm excited to be back on Tuesdays with
Justin. Yeah. I do. I'm excited. I miss my buddy, Justin. Yeah. Yeah. It's been forever since I've seen
Bill. I feel like we were settling into a to a routine there, Bill, where we would see each other
multiple times a year. And then the cold grasp of the vid ripped our friend. But I promise.
Austin is high on my list of places to visit
just after Hawaii. I'm going to Hawaii next month
and that's important. That's a very good place to go.
Yeah, yeah. It should always be a priority for you.
I'm looking at a very unusual thing for me to do.
I don't like cruises. I find them claustrophobic and annoying.
But I think I'm going to go on one and we're thinking about doing the
the Alaska Princess Cruise business.
because it just seems cool.
Ain't that like 12 days?
Yeah, well, no, this one's only, they have a 12-day one.
They got like a six-day.
Still pretty chunky for me, but...
That's a lot of time.
Yeah.
So I have a million questions, but we're just eating into a Bill's segment.
We'll refrain from them.
Now I'm curious what your questions would be.
I mean, you know, it's a cruise.
Just be good.
Number one, like, I'm just shocked that you're going to a physical location
that's not Anaheim or Las Vegas.
Oh, I see. I see.
The biggest shock is that there is a non-Anaheim or Las Vegas destination for Scott Johnson
because as far as I knew, I didn't know that you existed outside of those three locations.
Yeah, Salt Lake, yeah, we've got the little trifecta.
Well, when Kim, look, our 30, this sounds crazy to say, our 30 year anniversary is this year, this fall.
And that's a huge number.
And so it just didn't feel right to walk up.
him and go, you know, for our 30th, I was thinking, Vegas. How do you feel about Vegas?
So, yeah, we're going to, we're going to do something cool. We haven't locked it in yet,
but we got, we got ideas. Anyway, forget about me. Let's remember, let's talk about Bill. Bill is
here. He's got stuff to make or he's making things and always got something cool to tell us about.
Bill, what are you doing this week?
Yeah. Yesterday, I put together a CNC machine, a CNC router. I just got my hands on
a Shea Poco from
Who are the folks that make that?
Charbyte 3D.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Shea Poco.
Gotcha.
Can you tell the people of home
who aren't familiar
what the two C stand for
and a C machine?
Yeah, because I'm a big music factory.
Yes, right.
It's a computer numerical control.
That's what it stands for.
But it's like a 3D printer,
but it's got a prim router in it
so it can cut material instead of printing it.
So my brother-in-law, Steve,
has one of these that does wood.
This is the same kind of thing, I guess.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
All right.
I plan on using mine to cut up metal parks to make props.
So that's my goal.
Sure.
They're really cool.
And the thing I wanted to talk about was that you can buy a lot of pre-made machines,
and sometimes you can buy them unassembled.
Sometimes you have to buy them unassembled.
And putting together a machine like that's pretty cool.
It's a lot of fun.
It drops the cost of the machine, and it makes it easier to ship,
if they can ship it in parts instead of this big, bulky thing.
Sure.
And frequently, like, so Prusa makes really nice 3D printers.
You can buy the Mark 3S plus.
I3 Mark 3S plus.
That's the newest one.
Wow.
For a thousand bucks, assembled.
Or for 750, you can buy it as a kit.
So you save $250 if you put it together yourself, which is a quarter, it's 25% off.
That's pretty great.
Is there? Wow.
Prus is a dude.
I just realized that
this guy named Joseph Prusu
who makes all these printers
and is famous for it
and I had no idea
it was a guy
I thought it was like
some big
well it's probably
a big company now
but
wait what did you think
it was like a deity
I didn't know what I thought
it was like you know
it on the mountaintop
for you
uh
who else you think is making these things
it's like hearing the name
or I don't know
like a big big
name I guess they all are people's names
but I didn't know this guy
was like making printers
market research
like oh we need a great name
for power tools.
Prusa.
The screw,
D hammer.
No, no, shut up, Walt.
DeWalt, you'll get a raise.
I can't wait to meet Jeffrey Ultimaker.
Yeah.
He's a great guy, Jeff Ultimaker.
He goes by Jeff to his friends, by the way.
Anyway, well, yeah, so that's cool.
So you had to assemble this yourself.
You just get the parts and make it, or what?
Yeah, I've actually put together one of those Prusa machines.
They're really well built, and the instructions are really great.
I find the process of putting together a CNC machine like that pretty enjoyable.
I think other people maybe it's not, maybe they're not that into that.
But it's like a really cool tinker toy kit or an erector set, you know, those relevant toys that kids are talking about these days.
It's like that, but in the end you get a really cool machine when you're all done.
I love your attitude about that because that stuff just gives me, just thinking about assembling one of these makes me go, oh, I'm going to have someone else do this.
I don't want to do it.
And I used to be like the opposite.
Like in my 20s, if I was going to get a computer, I'm building that computer.
I'm going to get the parts.
I'm going to go nuts.
I'm going to be in there for hours.
I'm going to F up 50 times and it won't matter because I'll get there eventually and I'll fix it.
And then I'll break it again and then fix it again.
Like that was my attitude.
And now I'm like, oh, I don't know, man.
I don't have time to do this anymore.
So I admire this about you.
I wish I felt that way about making something.
I do still buy
Like some of my 3D printers came pre-assembled
But the shape out go I didn't have a choice
So
All right well then you've just got a good attitude
About things you don't have a choice better
I chose to enjoy it
Yeah that's great
It wasn't that hard
Most of the assembly is as simple as
Lining up parts and then screwing them together
And it came with all the tools necessary
And it had video instructions
Some kits will do this
So you just follow along
the video carbide 3D made their own video.
Other companies that make machines like this,
they'll either have really good instructions with images and words to follow
or fans have made their own assembly videos.
Some of the cheaper 3D printers, I will say,
the instructions are a little dicey, a little weird.
I put together a really cheap one a few years ago,
and there was a lot of guessing,
but I guess you kind of get what you pay for there.
Yeah, did the...
Yeah, I would say,
with stuff like that man i can't imagine a world of assembling
anything uh without youtube
yeah totally it is just the total game changer no i mean like everything like uh if you want to
i have a game from 1996 i'm trying to review for my retro show and uh as i was getting
ready to do it i could not beat this boss in this old ass game just couldn't do it and i thought
well i'll never beat that and then my bruce
brain went, no, you dummy, someone's done
it, and it's on YouTube, and sure enough, I go in there
and in four seconds, I see the trick, and I
go fix it, and I beat the boss. Like, it was
nothing. We live in a time of
embarrassment of riches. We just don't know it.
I know. Back in the day,
you'd have to go find an old dog-eared
copy of Nintendo Power.
Yeah, if you were lucky,
they talked about the game you cared about,
and then, you know, you still had a manual
this thick for the stupid game that came packed in it.
Like, just a different era,
but man, as much as we sometimes
bemoan the shit that goes on in today's modern world.
I think this stuff's pretty great.
Maybe we're just all big babies complaining.
And not the real men like Bill Duran building his own CNC machine.
That's right.
Aren't straight.
Build Duran.
Wait, I have a question about this, though.
Computer on the computer end, anything will do?
You just have certain software or whatever to do the C&C part, you know, the computer-aided part.
Sure.
For the C&C stuff, I use Fusion 360.
I'll do all my 3D modeling in that
and you can also do all your cam
work paths for that
right in Fusion which is great
and then Carbite has their own software
for sending all that stuff to the machine
I haven't done that part yet
not with this machine
so I'm talking about it now
as if it'll be a piece of cake
but we'll see
but yeah Fusion 360 is really good for that
okay so you're so it's
we're not talking about some
crazy specialty stuff you're going to have to subscribe to or anything like if you're already
using fusion you've got it yeah and it's uh free for hobbyists right right and you still count as
one of those right you don't have to you know pretend you're uh depends on how i'm using it
yeah when when when's the man gonna come after you for being too good that's right i mean
i'm already you're already too late because you're too good but i don't has anyone noticed like
the man has noticed no i have i have friends at autodesk okay i'm
I'm set.
This is how it used to be for me when I was using Photoshop for different things.
I could use a lot of free stuff because I could get away with it.
But the mini you start publishing something or kick-starting something.
It's like, wait a minute.
You might be in the pro category.
How does that work?
Does Adobe send you an email saying like, hey, we're trying to look up your license,
famous artists, and we can't find it.
Well, what they do now, I mean, they used to kind of do that.
If they could, I don't know how they enforced it.
I never got bugged.
But these days, your only choice really is.
to use something ancient that's completely out of copy or use the CC service, which is now a
subscription.
Well, that's easy.
I mean, that's, yeah, because they made it, they realized like, okay, just make the thing.
Yeah.
So people can pirated.
You're one of the most pirated things in the history of the world.
You're going to just get the subscription.
Yeah.
You're the most pirated software, probably in the history of software.
So your solution, actually, I think it's a good one for them.
I think it's still too much for what they charge, for what they give you.
And there's lots, I have lots of complaints.
But that's the way to do it if you don't want to get people pirating anymore.
But anyway, that's not important.
What's important is all the cool shit bill is going to make out of this machine.
That's right.
What are you going to make?
Like a sword or something?
Yeah, what are you doing there?
A gun?
The first thing is some Ghostbusters afterlife, ectoggle parts.
I think that's the first thing I cut out of aluminum.
Do you like that movie?
I didn't watch it.
Yes, it's very good.
I watched it again recently, and it's just as good.
Just as good the second time.
There's a very creepy
Harold Ramos scene.
Oh, really?
I wouldn't call it creepy.
I enjoyed the Harold Rameh scenes.
Did they ghost him or something?
Make him a ghost?
I'm not going to spoil anything.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah, it's still haven't seen it.
I need to see it.
It's on something now.
Can I just watch it?
Yeah, it's just a boy,
sometimes the de-aging stuff is great.
Like all the John Goodman stuff this season
and Royal Gemstones was,
or righteous gemstones was amazing.
It looked like old John Goodman
flawless. And then sometimes
Luke Skywalker's
jittery face. Yeah.
They're right with its cold
dead eyes. You'd think
you would think that would be the best
one because they've got all the tools of
their disposal, they've got
ILM, they've got all that history. They should be able
to make a better de-aging for
it was so embarrassing
that they hijacked a full
episode of the Mandalorian to show
that they got better at it over the summer.
Oh yeah, that's right. And didn't
some some fan did like a deep fake treatment
that was better. And no, he went
he went to ILM. Oh, that's right.
He works there now. They hired
him because he basically just used stuff
that's like off the rack. Like
it's free. It's available on the internet
and they were like, like, oh, it turns out
don't use all this old tech that you have.
Anyway. Yeah. So afterlife,
good. And you're making props from
it, Bill. That's right.
And I have a great
I have a great recommendation
related to that movie. Oh, let's
Let's do it.
What's that?
So my friend Ben Edie, I'm dropping a video in the old chat there.
He's got a YouTube channel and he worked on the movie.
He was in charge of a handful of the props including the RTV, which is the remote trap vehicle.
Yes, they put a ghost trap on an RC truck, which makes me so happy.
Yeah, that's awesome.
During production, Ben was in charge of driving it and he was also responsible for accidentally
destroying it.
Oh my gosh.
They got the shots they wanted, but now he had this.
destroyed prop from the movie, so he did a little video series on his YouTube channel where
he rebuilds the whole thing. Oh, that's great. That's very cool.
That's great. Yeah, how, well, I don't want to know, I guess. I want to know how they
destroyed it, but I guess he gets into that. I'll watch it later. I don't want to spoil it.
But my guess is he ran it under the car or some shit like that.
Probably what happened.
Probably what happened. All right. Well, thanks for the reminder to watch that movie. I don't
know why I don't know why. I don't want to go to theaters because my theaters suck now.
uh i want to i'll get it now that it's on some streaming thing wherever it is uh bill as always
the pleasure is ours and i'm really glad that it was a tuesday so you can hang out with the
guest host justin robert young today darn straight yeah it's like a dream bill hearing your
melodic voice again i mean i guess i could call you and we could actually just be friends off
live it's true it's so sweet when it happens online yeah right it doesn't count unless
hundreds of people are listening it doesn't count unless it's content that's right
I'm glad we could facilitate this regroup, this recoupling, this coitus of words, really, that you're having.
One of the two men brought in to fill my hole.
That's right.
Bill, have a fantastic week.
We'll see you next time.
All right.
He's out of here.
All right.
Now, the other guy that fills your hole.
It's a lot funnier when you're on the show and you hang up on guests.
Oh, it's great.
It's a lot funnier when you are, when you're watching how abrupt the guests are shoved off the show.
Yeah. I don't know if anyone I've ever said this or not or made this clear. I do this to everyone in all my life. So if I call my mom and I'm on the phone with her and we get toward the end and I sense the end coming, it's work. I'm done. Like I'm out. So it was never, you know, some people take it personally. It's just the way I am.
You know who apparently also was a big thing with that is Harry Reid, the now recently deceased senator from Nevada. Oh, really?
he apparently was famous for hanging up on people, including the president of the United States.
That's fantastic. I feel that. I know, I feel like Harry Reid and I would have gotten along, maybe, maybe barely. Maybe on that one point. I don't know. Actually, I don't have anything bad or good to say about Harry Reid.
He was Mormon. Oh, was he? Well, then that you know the deal. Then I have to like him if he was a Mormon guy.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know what, what the handbook says for the Mormon. I don't know what the Wikipedia says.
on uh it says nothing like that also but i really didn't know that that's interesting you know
i do like to make a big deal out of i think you might have converted too oh all right well there's
lots of those so yeah possible uh hey look who it is oh we got to play this hold on we got a little
intro for him science they don't they won't can my account for playing that uh it's bobby
frankenberger our science correspondent comes on tuesdays talks about cool science stuff going on in the
world. Bobby, welcome back. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? How are you, Justin?
What's up, Bobby? Yeah. It's nice to talk to you. Have you voiced a voice with Justin since
since he battered you and others on A&P? Did that? You do know I'm a producer on that show now, right?
Yeah. Oh, right. Because you have to do stuff now where, yeah, of course you have to. I'm not thinking.
I also have talked to you since then in that show. We're talking now. Can you believe it? This is insane.
All right. Yeah. The magic of the internet. Well, it's great.
to have you here. I have no idea. Well, I guess you kind of did hint as to what we're going to talk about
today, but I'll let you introduce it. What are we doing? Well, I thought it was time to talk about COVID
again. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. You know, the CDC just changed some, they updated their
framework and changed their guidelines on masking stuff. And so I figured whenever that kind of thing
happens and a lot of people might start hearing like state and local governments changing their
guidelines, their local mask mandates. And I know that, for example, our school district here
for my kids, they sent out a big email saying, nobody has to wear masks anymore. And so
people are wondering why the sudden change and, you know, is it a good idea? Is there anything
science to back it up? And so that seems like the right time to bring a
up yeah i'd be curious about it we were talking earlier just to give you uh some some undertone there
politically uh there was a meeting of governors in south florida over the last week and what was
underlined there is something that we have heard reported and and outright stated by a lot of
governors and specifically blue state governors that they were desperate for the federal government
to give them some kind of guidance on relaxing uh relaxing covid measures masking is probably
the most controversial of them.
But that is something that now is happening,
happens to be happening the same day
as the state of the union.
But I would presume that during Biden's speech tonight,
we will probably hear some kind of reframing
that allows that these governors to make moves
so they don't feel like they are running ahead
of federal guidance in the way that some of the red state
governors have kind of made a meal out of and made their identity.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
And so a lot of people are wondering, you know, what's this?
Is there even science behind it or is this just political, you know?
Yeah.
And there is some science behind it.
In fact, a lot of people who have been following this and listening to the experts
have really probably seen this coming for at least a couple of weeks now.
I mean, the CDC just a week or two ago was talking about wanting to make a move like this.
I'm not really sure why they talked about it that way.
Like, do they, maybe you know more than I do, Justin.
Are they in the practice of often just talking about,
we're just thinking about making some changes,
because that's kind of how it sounded.
Oh, the CDC is not a good organization for this stuff.
Like, they're not built for it.
They don't do it well.
And by this stuff, I mean, in the moment guidance.
The CDC is an amazing detective, historian agency.
that can go back and analyze things and then tell us a full story after things have passed.
What we've seen, both with the CDC and the FDA, to a certain extent, is that the process of government,
they are not built for this, even if you're going to be the most kind as you possibly can to them.
So tie that up with the fact that there is gigantic political pressures on them from various different places.
and you get kind of what we've gotten, basically.
It makes a lot more sense when you think of it like that.
Yeah, so the politics are inseparable with decisions that are made like this,
but in case people are worried, there is a reason to believe that it might be time to start
think, reassessing how we do mask mandates or not how we do them, but when we relax or not.
So first thing to note is that the CDC isn't making any recommendations that you
shouldn't be wearing masks or that you shouldn't get vaccinated or anything like that.
Basically, this change is not so much about what they think you should be doing, but more like
they're changing the methods by which they determine what the risk level is.
Because whether you should be wearing a mask or not, as you're probably familiar with this,
is determined by the risk level on a county level.
You can go to the CDC website and look at that map and it's got, you know, you're either red,
yellow or green and and if it's red you should be wearing a mask and if it's yellow or green then
you know there's less of a reason to and and they've changed the way that they calculate
what your risk level is on a county level before it was mostly about case numbers which makes
sense they were just looking at how many how many cases of COVID are going around in our area
and so if it's high then you should it's a high risk area if it's not then it's a low risk area
But they're now focusing less on case numbers and more on COVID severity and hospitalization or hospital capacity.
Right. So the focus is more about how severe are these and can hospitals handle the severe cases in your area?
And if the hospitals are fine, it's a lower risk area. And if the case numbers are, you know, it's just less about the case numbers is the point.
I mean, they still play a factor, though, right?
They still, you know, you can't.
They do, but one of the reasons, so, so, yeah, there's, when you look at how they're making these determinations, there's sort of like a filter that it goes through.
And if, and if the case numbers are high enough, like I think, you know, it's always about seven day average.
What are the, what are the daily case rates over the past seven days on average?
And if it's over 200, then it can't, for example, if it's over 200 in your county, the average, then you cannot be considered low risk.
but if it's if it's under 200 then they then they you know consider basically after they consider
that step then they look at hospitalization or hospital capacity and and and severity of the
cases they are seeing the reason they can't look at case numbers by the way is because we don't
have reliable data official data on that anymore because of how how everybody's got home
tests.
So with everybody taking tests in their home, the government can't track that as well.
I think also Omicron changed the math on it.
Amicron was so contagious, but markedly less deadly, that if you were only going on case
counts, then Amicron was by far the worst wave that we have ever seen.
And that was, like you mentioned, with there being a.
a gigantic glut of at-home
test, which means that we were likely undercounting
the cases
possibly by like a factor
of two or three. Yeah, we're almost
certainly undercounting them. Yeah, and if you went
to the, just a couple of weeks ago before they made
these changes, if you went to the CDC website and looked
at that map, the whole country
was red.
Yeah, I remember that. And yet, it
was the least deadly
of the waves. Right. Like,
by the number of people affected, and even
by the raw numbers, it came in,
under the amount of dead through the delta wave, which less people got, but more people died from.
So that's part of it.
And I think also politically, to go back to some of those pressures, there is, and also
scientifically, there is a question of, are we in a zero COVID goal or are we in an endemic
COVID goal?
And if we are in a zero COVID goal, then if there is COVID around, everybody should not
leave their house. If we are in an endemic COVID goal and we understand that even if we were
to eradicated from America tomorrow, that somebody would come in from some other place and they
would bring it and we would start the process all over again, then the question is, when is it
best to heighten restrictions as opposed to keeping them on indefinitely? Right. And we're at the
stage where epidemiologists are all agree that this is, you know, we're leaving the pandemic
phase and we're going into an endemic phase. And so that's exactly the right way to look at it.
Once, if the whole country's read on that map and people aren't, like you said, the severity is
really low, then that's not a useful map. You have to come up with a new way to think about it and
to assess risk because it's just not useful to just say, the whole country, stay inside.
even though it's not, you know, it's not as bad as it's been in the past.
Right.
That's the hard part to me is like all of this like figuring it out and going, oh, we can't base it on this data alone or we have to have a more nuanced approach to hospitalization versus case number, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like all that stuff makes sense to me as we, as they refine their ability to understand it, report it, whatever.
The part, the hard part is remains.
How do you now connect to the public on this and not just look like you, you.
don't know what you're doing, even though I don't perceive this as them not knowing what they're
doing. They may not be great at it, but, you know, there's plenty of scientists and smart people
and statisticians and people understand this shit that are working on this. But your ability to let
my neighbor who already doesn't trust you, why it's just up and down with mask requirements,
he's just not going to buy it. Like that's, to me, the biggest wall is still there, which is
communication and how to like not just gain trust i mean i think they're doing the best that they
can with that honestly what can you do now like you can't talk about anything anymore without
eight different takes all fighting against each other you know like it's i don't feel like there is
a way to win that contest well i mean i think look they are they're doing the best they can but
they are not immune from being a political organization well for sure right you know there is there is
certain voices that are going to say certain things and ultimately everybody serves at the pleasure
of the president whether they be on the team that you root for or the other one so uh the reality
of mandates from a governmental perspective is different from that of the CDC the CDC can say
from our you know seat in DC this is what it should be right that then goes to enforce
on the local level.
And I think there is a real question
for as much as we want to believe
that everybody's a, you know,
a Sim and Sim City.
And we can just say,
mask mandate,
and then everybody puts on their mask,
mask mandate off.
And then everybody takes it off.
Is that you only have as much,
these mitigation measures
are only as good
as they are applied by the people voluntarily.
Yeah.
And if we are moving into an endemic phase,
where locally, the point is, hey, when we're in a wave, let's use these mitigation factors.
When we're not, we're going to give you guys, quote-unquote, you know, the ability not to do it.
I think that that builds up the reservoir for people to say, okay, let's take the mitigation factors.
In the same way that, you know, people of most stripes, you know, we're okay with two weeks to stop the spread,
even though it was an unprecedented kind of change to our lives.
Right.
The reservoir was full.
Now, oh, boy, we are in very dicey territory for some people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think that ultimately, you know, we have to, part of the equation has to be whether, like you said, Justin,
whether people are going to take these mandates seriously when we do need them.
and so they're thinking about that and yeah i mean i guess the question is when will they be more
willing to obey them if they never go away yeah or if when things are low and when risk is
lower you are not putting them in and so now they feel you know uh uh they they feel
special or they feel there's a reason there's a justification you can show the numbers to say
all right guys here's where we're at
please you know take care of your
neighbor and and do this
as opposed to like well
there's a mask mandate forever
and that's the other the other element of it
is that if they become unpopular
the politicians aren't going to want to do it
because yeah that's the other thing
yeah they'll just not say anything
or it won't do whatever their advantageous angle
is to take they'll take it
and so I can't I mean we can't
unless you're arresting people for
not wearing masks then like
these are these are statements right these are affirmational statements they are they are a thing that a teacher writes on the blackboard it's it's not it's not like you're not getting arrested for not wearing a mask you're getting a fine for not wearing a mask right right you you may get kicked out of a out of a yeah I don't know what Chipotle but that's Chipotle not not your government so yeah like even even if there's not a mask mandate the Chipotle can say please wear a mask and then hand your mask can be in government yeah they can say they can do whatever they want
They can say, I don't like your shirt.
Get out.
That's fine.
You want to go fight that in the courts?
Go ahead, I guess.
Well, that'll be the last time that I wear my F. Chipotle T-shirt.
Yeah, I wondered about that.
So interesting.
So, but good news from all this, my take is, and I could be wrong.
So, you know, Bobby tell me if I'm up in the night here.
But it just seems like maybe we're seeing the lighting in the tunnel,
even if there's some endemic aspects to things.
We're not hearing about massive new.
new variants or crazy new outbreaks or anything. I mean, maybe we're heading down a good
space finally. I don't know. Can I take that from this? Yeah, I think certainly we are and
things are getting better. All the experts keep saying, like, I keep hearing people say,
that we're looking to have a spring break this year. Not that we stopped having spring breaks,
but you know what I mean. Things are getting better. Everybody's, what, what? What, over 200
million people in the U.S. have gotten the main course of vaccine. Over 100 million have been boosted,
and then the rest got COVID because they didn't. So there's a immunity, quote unquote, is, you know,
we have a high level of the population that are that are now resistant in some way to the virus.
And that's a good thing. We're moving out of the pandemic phase.
And it's likely that this is the last major surge that we'll see of this for, hopefully, for quite a while.
This is not the only endemic virus that is.
No, no.
It's not like, it's, going endemic is not like, like, it's not like hopeless.
That's not what that means.
That means we're out of the pandemic phase.
We're now able to deal with this, you know?
Yeah, no, it's progress.
It's like we've been able to do with a whole lot of things.
some things get eradicated but you know in a lot of cases stuff stays forever and you get flu shots for a reason and you know i'm fine with that phase if we if we're truly there it's just when they start going ah the bastard uh variance coming and it goes through your butthole and now we're all dead like you know i just don't want any more news like that i just want like this to chill out like the happiest i've been all year was when i heard the news that and maybe we talked about it with you bobby i don't remember but that whole conversation around some new variants that
they were calling deltacron because they found that the delta variant and the omicron variant
had merged somehow into a new supervirus and turns out it was just screwed up charts or
something and it never existed.
That's a great.
It was a great day.
I think I went and got a milkshake or something to celebrate.
I was stoked.
I was like, yeah, dude.
That was bullshit.
You were stoked that it was not the truth.
That it was not the truth.
Okay.
Yeah.
There was not yet another terrible wave.
Yeah.
As soon as there's a wave, there's a wave, there's a.
The news story is primed for like, and guess what?
There's another one.
Yeah.
Like, DJ Khalid, another one.
Another one.
Yeah, I have him do it every time.
He's, he's perfectly.
Okay, college for the CDC.
That's what I'm saying.
I know Rochelle Willinsky is good, but college?
College?
College, great, right?
Great.
They don't want me to be CDC director.
So we got to be CDC director.
Another one.
That's a pretty good DJ Collett.
I'm impressed with your...
I love DJ Collin.
Yeah, you do a good impression.
Major key policy points.
Major key.
Major key.
Very good.
Well, all right.
There's a map on the CDC website.
You can go there and if your county is red, you probably need to be wearing a mask.
This is the high level what it means.
If it's red, wear a mask.
If it's yellow or green, you can probably just not wear a mask.
unless you're on very close quarters, like public transportation or something like that.
Yellow means that if you're a high risk individual or if you're close to someone who's high risk,
then you need to still be careful.
Just do like me.
Have a mask in your pocket and just have it ready and just have it.
It's fine.
You know, I do.
Yeah, do that.
And if you walk into a place where they need a mask, then you got one and it's fine and it's not that inconvenient.
You're fine.
You could be Ukrainian right now.
Just be fine with your mask.
Look at me.
Yellow, let it mellow.
Yeah, if it's brown, flush it down.
Yeah.
Well, it's not a brown one, Scott.
That's not, we're not studying medical misinformation on the...
Well, they did start...
You're getting in real Rogan territory.
Yeah, I don't want to go there.
I get canceled.
They did start testing wastewater for COVID, so maybe there will be a brown one.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
We talked...
That was a whole subject last time, Your Honor, a couple times ago.
Well, Bobby, it's always a pleasure, as my dad would say, on the frequent.
And we're always glad to have you here.
Tell people where they can find all around science.
why they should this week.
You can find all-around science.
I don't have to tell you where to find it.
You're listening to a podcast.
You know how to find podcast.
But it's called All-Around Science.
We just talked about...
Actually, this episode that came out yesterday,
we talked about more about what we talked about
on this show last week,
which is the whole idea of how words and language
can literally,
cognitively, change the way
you are able to think about things
about colors, your ability
to see certain colors and stuff like that.
We talked about that.
And it was a great conversation.
We talked about social justice
and all sorts of stuff.
Very nice.
Yeah, it's a great show, you guys.
Check it out.
Bobby doing great work over there,
all around science, wherever you get podcasts.
Bobby, I hope.
Good to talk to you, Justin.
Yeah.
Yeah, brother.
Good to see you, man.
Always good to see you.
We'll see you soon on, you know,
you'll be in a bit of the back.
background, but, you know, the new A&TP season coming up in like a week.
Looking forward to it.
Is that like next week?
Yeah, I think so.
A week from yesterday.
Yeah.
I'm going to be on the road.
Well, perfect.
Perfect.
No, that's some of your best work, Justin.
You're on the middle of a thing.
You're not buying any houses, are you?
Yeah, we'll not be buying a house and moving out of a house and moving cross country,
which was why I was very mean last season.
That was insane.
I can't believe you pulled that off and didn't just say, hey, I need a buy and let
someone step in.
missing episode. Everybody else. All the other judges missing episodes. Not your old boy
Jerbs. That's true. Taking every opportunity to take my frustrations out on poor contestants
of the show. Contestants may have hated you, but the production staff loved you for it.
That's right. You made harsh criticism. It's all content. We'll see you later, Bobby. All right. There
goes, Bobby. Oh, I got rid of Justin. Shit. I didn't mean to do that. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Wrong guy.
Kicked out the wrong guy.
That was a goof.
Hold on.
Recall.
There you were.
Hello.
Yeah.
I got, you know what it was for serious?
It's your name on there.
And my muscle memory is when you hang up, when you hang up, you hang up on Justin's
name because that's up on the jerbs.
Yeah.
Because he's there.
See how they treat me?
And yet.
See how they treat?
treat me? Yeah, I know. Look, all I can do is think as DJ Collin.
They don't want me to be on the show. So I got to be on the whole show. They hung up on me.
Another time. They hung up another one. Another guess. It's good stuff. By the way, so before we go today, why don't you tell us again, speaking of all the things you're busy with, dog and pony show, productions, of course, World's Greatest Con, all this stuff. Coming up fresh and hot and new and slapping. So tell everybody where to get it.
and what's going on?
First and foremost, if you guys aren't aware,
Dog and Pony Show Productions is my production company.
We've done a couple really, really cool things,
including Raise the Dead,
which I know a lot of you guys are aware of,
which is my podcast,
and then Brian Brushwood and I work on this podcast
called The World's Greatest Con.
It is, on its face,
a thrilling retelling of some of the most audacious
and mind-bending scale.
and cons in history, but in reality, it is an examination of why we fall for these kinds of
things. What in our brain is triggered by these games and cons, because invariably, all of them
are running along a lot of the same playbooks. They are there to exploit things that are inside
of a brain. It's the reason why the tagline of the show is that cons don't fool us because
we're stupid. They fool us because we're human.
In this season, we take a look
at the glitzy world
of television game shows.
Our first episode is already out following
the scandals that almost killed the entire
industry, those around
the fixing of the show
21. But
I'm very proud of this season.
I would love it if you guys would give it a chance.
The first season is all about World War II.
If that ain't your scene,
then these are five
separate episodes. Not one long story.
five separate stories all covering a different thing all complete stories i think you guys are going
to really dig it head on over there uh world's greatest con wherever you find your podcast but
specifically apple because i'm trying to pass cocaine and rhinestones on the on the chart that'd be
amazing passing your favorite show that you listen to which is great right doesn't that feel
the best yeah that's pretty awesome i could see why that would be a goal and we can get we can get
them we can get them there that's what that's what we do best everybody so pile
there. And even if you don't use Apple
stuff, find some way to get in there and do it.
It all counts. Subscribe wherever
you can get. Thank you
to everybody who already has, by the way.
This premiere launched bigger than
any in a 24-hour window
than anything in the first season
that shows growth.
That's great because now we have advertisers.
Yeah. Yeah. Keep the man happy.
Yeah. Keep the man happy.
Also, add free episodes, patreon.com.
Oh, very good point. All right.
Very, very nice.
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All right, man.
I think that's going to do it.
I'm going to leave us with another song.
And yeah, I'm going to just double dip today.
It's the Aces again.
Utah's own the Aces.
I love these guys. I can't help it.
They have another song on that album
Under My Influence called I Can Break Your Heart 2.
It's a little sappy, but it does it for me.
And there's something about, I don't know, it's got a good groove.
I think you guys will like it.
So check that out.
Again, that's I Can Break Your Heart 2.
Under My Influences the album, it's the Aces.
Justin, thanks for being here, man.
Oh, man.
It was a pleasure being back home here on TMS.
Thank you to everybody.
And I will be back.
I'll be back some time.
If you really, if you hope,
fingers crossed hard enough,
maybe the old jerbs will be back again.
And now I just disappear in a very crappy 70s crossfade
like by an angel.
You never know.
Maybe we may see him in Vegas, we hope.
I'm not sure.
Oh, I hear a little boy.
Oh, yeah, you will.
Yeah, you'll see me in Vegas.
Hold on.
We got a quick, we got a brief appearance by a two-year-old
or three-year-old.
Come here, buddy.
You want to say hi to everybody?
Say hi.
Hi.
Say hi, can you say hi, Justin?
What's up?
Go back with Nana.
Hold on.
I think it's pretty red.
We have the same haircut.
I know, right?
He has your hair.
That's pretty intense.
Yeah, we have the same.
He's got a good look.
He's a fashionable kid.
He's very, he's high fashion, low maintenance.
Even his diapers are easy.
Anyway, that's going to do it.
Thanks everybody for being here.
We'll see you next time.
Cut you off and you're acting different.
Cut you off and you want commitment.
Use caution every time that we're kissing.
Use caution when I say I'm in saving.
Can't take it but you show condition.
Always making new terms and condition.
We're hoping things they could be different.
But I'm done wishing
All the games you play are boring
If you're calling
I'm ignoring
Because you're just not as important
As you think you might be
Set it up to break me down
You don't want me
Then you want me
Uh-oh
But you can have your kick you need it too
My life isn't always about you
I can't break your heart too
You know they say that love is blind
But I don't really think that applies
It's not love between you and I
More like ever I
All the games you play are boring
If you're calling I'm ignoring
Because you're just not as important
as you think you might be
set it up to break me down
you don't want me
then you want me
but you can have your kick
and need it too
my life isn't always about you
I can't break your heart too
that you were everything I want
everything I needed, wondering if there's something that I could have said.
Because I just can't shake this feeling, staring at the ceiling, playing like a movie back inside my head.
Now, no, never mind.
And I never know
No
I never know
Set it up
To break me down
You don't want me then you want me now
But you can have your kick you need it too
My life isn't always about you
I can break your heart too
Set it up to break me down
You don't want me then you want me
I'm going to me now
But you can have your kick and eat it too
My life isn't always about you
I can't break your heart to
I can't break your heart too
I can't break your heart too
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Methinks, you care little for your sister when I think on the time you have taken to return here.
Yeah.
Hmm.
