The Morning Stream - TMS 2253: Growing In the Mullet Region

Episode Date: March 1, 2022

Un-COMB-able not un-COMFORT-able. The JrY Has Not Retired. Dingledop Fluglefarf syndrome. Bob's Dole Whip. Putin on the Shits. Bitch, I've Got a 30-Layer PSD. Not for Footloose reasons. CnC Machine Fa...ctory with Bill. Some Science With Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, uncomable, not uncomfortable. The jury has not retired. Dingle-Dop-Fugel-Farf syndrome. Bob's do-whip. Putin on the shits. Bitch, I got a 30-layer PSD. Not for footloose reasons. C&C Music Factory with Bill.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Some science with Bobby and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Are you tired of taking your dog for a walk and picking up after their mess? Are you tired of using grocery bags or products that are heavy? not useful. It can get very messy when your pet goes in the house or on the sidewalk or even your neighbor's lawn. We have the answer for you. Introducing poo trap. Hi, I'm Margaret. I know what cats are thinking. The morning stream. You're soaking in it. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to TMS. It is the morning stream for March 1st, 2022, brand new month. Hello, brand new month. Joining us today as co-host. I'm Scott, by the way. Is Justin Robert Young? What?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah. What? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, son. How did you back? Yeah, he's back. All those rumors of your demise were. A lot of people thought I was dead. A lot of people thought. A lot. Many people are saying, Scott, that, that, you're back. Justin Robert Young is dead, and I'm here to say, nay. No, not only you're not dead. You're so alive that your hair has grown a lot since I saw you last. You have a lot of hair now. It has. You know, my hair is a curious beast, Scott, because it really, it mostly grows in the mullet region. So for what looks like growth on the sides of my head, I effectively now have, like, hippie long hair,
Starting point is 00:01:55 but it's literally totally blocked by my, like, you can. I turn my head sideways. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Look at that. But it is a real majestic waterfall of hair in the back of my head. My wife hates it. She's very, very upset that I won't get a cut. And at this point, I'm doing it to spider. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Well, nothing like a good spite, a spite hair resistance. Spite haircut. Yeah. Don't do it. I say stick to your guns. Mine just continues to turn more gray and also not grow very fast. So that's a new phase I'm in in my life, and that's fine. This is the first time that you've had like that you're like, oh, so no more reserves, huh? Like, this is the first time that you're starting to feel that way.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, like my wife keeps telling me I need to eat these gummies that have like whatever the, whatever the like basis of hair and nail growth is. I forgot what it's called. Oh, I think, yeah, I know it's a keratin. Might be. I don't know. There's these gummies. She wants me to take them.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm like, are you not on the, uh, are you not on, on, on the hymns or, or the keeps or anything like that? I mean, they got it. They have to have advertised. You can get promo, right? I'm definitely not like, balding, but I'm not. It used to be I'd go like, two weeks in a haircut was mandatory. Now I can go almost a month. And then I'm like, okay. If you wanted to keep that like, that fresh Eisenhower cut. Yeah. You've been, you've been rocking that I've been rocking for so long. Yeah. Yeah. Since Eisenhower. In fact, he. In fact, he. handed it off to you well i've been around that long but it feels like it some days uh but anyway it's a very nice to have you by the way and uh it is it is a joy very very excited uh since uh brian is on a well-deserved uh vacation and uh i i saw a clip of you saying like oh justin justin would never do it he's too busy yeah and i immediately hit him hit you up and said you better knock it off. Of course I can co-host
Starting point is 00:03:56 the show, mostly because I have to promote the fact that World's Greatest Con Season 2 is available now. Again, you know, all your pod, catcher feeds. We're only three spots behind my favorite podcast, Cocaine and Rhinestones on Apple. So if you can see, if everybody in the chat subscribed on Apple right now,
Starting point is 00:04:12 we would almost certainly pass them and that would be an amazing thing. So go ahead, World's Greatest Con Season 2, all about game shows. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Show cons and scams. You guys are going to talk about the famous one that they made that, what was that thing? Ray Fines was in it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 It was, oh, the quiz show. Quiz show. Scott, I love quiz show. I'm so glad that you brought that up because indeed our season two premiere is all about the scandal surrounding the game show 21, which was the basis of the show, quiz show, or the movie quiz show. I will say this. The book that we primarily based the research for this episode on was the federal. prosecutor who did all the work in that case and almost entirely
Starting point is 00:04:57 wrote that book because he was pissed off that he was erased entirely from Quixio. Yes. It is very much a book powered by spite because the book that they based that movie on was somebody who was involved in the congressional
Starting point is 00:05:14 hearing, which came very late in the process. There was like an entire investigation and stuff that happened beforehand. And so that's where we got most of our stuff. And I think we have a very different take than quiz show on kind of what the power dynamics were. And ultimately that everybody involved in that was risking a lot more than money and fame when the shows were that big. And they had reputations to uphold that were obliterated by being made cheaters. Well, if that stuff's interesting to you, and it is to me,
Starting point is 00:05:47 you're going to like this new season, it sounds like. So I didn't realize there were, I mean, I assume the world of game shows, you know, whatever they are, everything from $20,000 pyramid to whatever, all the stuff that was on TV when I was a kid or whatever, I assumed most of those have some kind of backdoor shenanigans. And I don't mean like big scandal level, but none of that stuff is, you know, just pure contest, right? Well, you know, the first episode is about a producer
Starting point is 00:06:19 who takes liberties with contestants. Our second episode is about a no name who realizes a zero-day exploit in a game show called Press Your Luck and effectively realizes that he can win money forever. And there's nothing that anybody can do to stop them. And so he wins, adjusted for inflation, what still is the single day record for money won on an American game show. But we got all sorts of stuff. We have a dude who is a total con artist. that decides to win some quick cash. He's going to honestly play a game show and he wins.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We've got a huge scandal that happens with Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. And then the story behind the only perfect bid in the history of the final showcase showdown of the modern Price is Right. Oh, wow. Okay. has some great first-person perspective because there's a bunch of interviews, there's a documentary about it, and the guy who did it wrote a rambling self-published book that I read in research for it. So that is also a great episode.
Starting point is 00:07:33 That's our finale. I saw that documentary, I believe. I don't remember the name of it, but I saw it. That's the guy. The man who knew too much? Yeah, and they had the whole, oh, no, that's the, That's the millionaire one where the guys whistling or yelling out in the audience, right? Which I get them mixed up.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Coughing. Coughing. Coughing, that's what it was. No, that's a great one. We have an episode on that. If you are not familiar with it, you are in for a treat because that is, we've spent a lot of time. Season 1, a world's greatest con went all into Operation Mincemeat, which was the British government's con job on Hitler that effectively helped secure the war in Italy. that is about as complex and high stakes
Starting point is 00:08:20 of an opportunity for a con that you will have by far the dumbest that we have ever covered on this series and maybe the dumbest that will ever cover on this series is the who wants to be a millionaire a con which makes a smash and grab look like knives out that's a great description
Starting point is 00:08:41 there's a documentary for that as well right somewhere that people can get I mean listen to you don't know what? actually didn't write the initial draft of that script because editing and writing for two episodes this season is the winner of America's next top podcaster Will Sattelberg. Oh, yeah, that's right. Joined our team here at Dog and Pony Show and worked really, really hard, was great on two of those episodes, and that was one of them. So he actually did all the research on that one.
Starting point is 00:09:13 That's awesome. I forgot he was doing that. That's great. That's very cool to hear. well since you've been gone and I have to play this now since you've been gone jury some things have happened and I wanted to go through this list real quick and get your hot takes so in this new segment that we'll never do again called omicron dipped to its lowest level and is still dipping so when you did it when you left things were gnarly yep that's it no more COVID right it accomplished yeah we're all done
Starting point is 00:09:46 get out the boat and George Bush and a giant sign mission accomplished farewell Omicron another thing that happens It's a boat
Starting point is 00:09:54 It's just a boat It's not an aircraft carrier It's a boat Whatever boat You can get your hands on Just grab a boat In a banner And mission
Starting point is 00:10:03 Accomplish it Understatements I like to make them Sometimes And it's definitely I mean you could quantify It's a boat Right
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's a boat Technically a boat No it's it's a boat Sure It's just not a very big, you know, a small boat. A whale is a mammal. The moon is a, I don't know. The moon's a rock.
Starting point is 00:10:28 A rock. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, this is actually kind of like this game. All right. Russia invaded Ukraine. There's a recent event happen. So that's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That was a biggie. That was a biggie. The biggest land incursion in Europe since World War II. and boy, does Europe get fussy about that? Yeah, they don't like that. They have, I think, a pretty strong memory of that time, don't you think? Doesn't it feel like they're like... Yeah, often forgotten in history, World War II.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I feel like people don't bring it up as a metaphor. Yeah, we don't still refer to the war very often. No, yeah. I think the information and personalities surrounding World War II, you know, a bit of a deep cut in our modern era, certainly isn't thrown around willy-nilly. Do you are, okay, I will ask you this before we move on. Are you surprised at the, I don't know if I'd call it a miscalculation.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It feels like Russia felt very strongly about their propaganda machine and felt very strongly that this was the time to do this. And that if they were ever going to get away with this slash, achieve whatever goals Putin has, that this time was going to be ripe for that. But instead, I mean, everyone is shutting the money. down like people he thought were allies are like yeah we're not we're not down with this and you know like let's see we're we are we are still early in the game and and you know there were some backsliding from the EU this morning about sending planes to uh sending planes to ukraine so uh you know obviously this is very very fluid let me also say uh thank you everybody for joining the number one most trusted and respected foreign policy
Starting point is 00:12:13 podcast, all of what we say should be taken as very well-researched opinion. That being said, I think for Putin, well, no, I have no idea. Because, all right, take it from somebody that, through the run-up to this, was called and responded to opportunities to talk about American politics on a Russian propaganda a channel for Russia today. Really? That's, I don't know why that's, I didn't know this. Keep going. Sorry. I never talked about this. I talked, because they would do these like, you know, like, Ted Cruz says, Blap, what do you think, American?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Sure. And I would talk about whatever, mostly the stuff that I normally talk about on PX3. But when I would go, I've been doing those hits for about a year. And normally, when I come on, if it's a live hit, then I'll watch. what their programming is for about 10 minutes beforehand as they get everything together. Sure. Normally it would be some combination
Starting point is 00:13:19 of European news or I would say probably right leaning to Fox Newsy kind of like slants on American political news specifically. In the last week before everything
Starting point is 00:13:35 popped off, everything that they did was this is not a thing Russia's not invading. The only reason why this is happening is because Biden's in trouble politically and Boris Johnson's in trouble politically. Total fake news.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Absolute nonsense. Let's all laugh at the Americans. Well, that was not the case. So it's not like they were using their propaganda channels to grease the wheels and talking the way they're talking now about Nazis running
Starting point is 00:14:07 Kiv and Zelensky being a drug addict. and blah, blah, blah, blah. So, like, I have no idea. I have no idea whether or not that this was a change of direction. I have no idea whether or not they were just uncharacteristically sloppy
Starting point is 00:14:24 in thinking about how fast this could go. But I will say Putin's in, he's in some very interesting territory because we are in, we're in like the Hague neighborhood at this point. Like, the human rights council is, you know, pointed out things that shouldn't happen again that are probably going to continue happening. And, you know, he is, he is not there yet, but certainly, because it takes a lot for
Starting point is 00:14:51 a world leader to get to like, we're going to remove you or now this is like a permanent sanctions kind of thing. But he's, he's trending toward super-sized Slobodan Milosevic. Yeah, pretty bad. It's also strikes me is the big difference this time around as compared to say World War II, and I'm not comparing these two events necessarily, but it is the biggest land incursion in Europe since then, like you mentioned. The big difference that I can see is that while his tactics feel familiar in terms of aggression, the differences we now live in a world where every single person has not just a camera, multiple cameras, and a giant interconnected network where we can communicate these things. So if a Russian tank is going
Starting point is 00:15:34 to swerve and try to run over an old man in his car, we're going to have video of it. it whereas that didn't exist yeah 1943 so yeah I think I think also the the this is a materially larger grab than he has done in the past you know if you're going to look at
Starting point is 00:15:50 what Putin has done throughout his career even reaching back to 1999 there was the Chechens in Grosny which was an the Russian public was fairly unsympathetic toward because of terror concerns at the time then you have Georgia
Starting point is 00:16:06 you have Crimea Crimea is a very complicated land that was already kind of in a weird joint custody situation that Russians really like to vacation in. So him annexing Crimea is something that
Starting point is 00:16:20 is not what this is. This is toppling the government with military force in a country of 40 million people next door that are next door to NATO nations. This is a materially larger move
Starting point is 00:16:36 for him beyond what the actual fallout is. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, since you've been gone, Justin Breyer announced his retirement. We don't have to talk about that much, but that happened. We did? Yeah, Justice Breyer, right?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Didn't he say he's going to retire? Yeah, yeah, Justice Breyer and Kintaghi Brown Jackson has been nominated in his stead to be the first black woman on the Supreme Court. First public defender as well, or do I have that wrong? I believe so. And first sister-in-law of Paul Ryan. Oh. geez i didn't know that that's a trip yeah what's what's thanksgiving like around there i wonder that's
Starting point is 00:17:13 interesting all right uh yeah no he he congratulated her and and uh was was supportive of her said that they don't particularly uh see eye to eye on politics but he's thrilled that a member of his family was being nominated to the supreme court there you go uh there was uh other stuff a few things here massive eruption in a volcano and tonga happened betty white died while you were gone uh dude right i mean And right as she was, there was about to be a big Betty White celebration, huh, for the 100th anniversary. You had that unfortunate people magazine cover like. It was like a week before. Totally.
Starting point is 00:17:49 That sucks. That sucks. I think days. Yeah. Okay. That sucks. Bob Dole. Bob Dole says he's out.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Done. Goodbye. Wow. What was that after? Yeah. Bob Dole, a man, it was so great to go having a. excuse to go back and watch old Viagra commercials and then also the fact that i i think it is a lost moment in political history that during the super bowl they had the big brittany spears ad that ended
Starting point is 00:18:24 with just bob dole sitting by himself in a room watching it where the joke is that he has a boner like the end of this commercial which cost millions of dollars to create and play place on the air during the commercial was about an old man's boner. And then they did another ad that was specifically designed to feel like a Viagra ad, but it was Bob Dold talking about like, well, you know, like I like to feel young and vital, thanks to my blue friend, and it's a pan of Pepsi instead, but another boner joke. Yeah. We really had a great time.
Starting point is 00:19:01 For a guy that bombed so hard during election day, we sure did love talking about his penis. Yeah, we loved his penis. We miss his penis. I loved it. Yeah. We do. And we miss it. Bless up.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah. To Bob Dole's penis. May it be looking down on all of us right now from heaven. Yep. Everybody may it be. And may it be looking up while it's there. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to look it down.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah. Dude. Rock, rock solid. Rock solid. Even after death. Let's see what else. Oh, they found. Hell of peace, Bob.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah. So I got a question. for you here. Yeah. Well, let me tell you this. So we got a, I got a list of things. I got a list of everyone's favorite things jury has ever said on the show. And they happen to be.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Am I dying? No, no, no. This is all just a good welcome back to jury kind of moment here. That's all we got. So here's, so here is your top nine jury quotes. All right. This is some great content. Now, this list also might happen to coincide with the total number of jury quotes that I have.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Okay. So not only were you voted, these is the best nine, they are the only nine that I have. These are just the ones you have on your board. These are the ones I have on my board. They just happen to also be voted by the thousands of people who voted. In a totally separate vote amongst everything I've ever said in the years that I did at TMS, these were the top nine. These were the top nine. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And they're not all necessarily from TMS. A couple of these might be from something else. But here's number one or here's number 10 or number nine, I should say. Wild Bill Clinton scandalizing these youths with his penis. Ah, no, let's see, the penis of Bill Clinton. That's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Number eight on that list. You son of a bit. That's a good one. It's a good one. I feel like that.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That was that an unfriend me intro? I feel like that sounds like an unfriend me. Might have been. There might have been a couple of these that are that. No, that was the angry voice. I don't think I've ever found another place to put that angry voice. But people, people did. like the angry the angry internet voice yeah your fake angry guy who wants to unfriend you is
Starting point is 00:21:10 pretty legendary around here so pretty good one i got to find another place to find a use for that oops i already played that all right here's number seven uh i don't it's just a weird noise all right so there's that number six coming in it hot at number seven i'm on monopoeia right there oh yeah kind of hold on i should play it backwards it'll probably say uh love satan whatever some kind of backwards masking here you are talking about penises again remove the penis before you snort it. Don't know what that is. Don't remember.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You just like it when I say penis on the show and you like to cook it out. I mean, I'm starting to wonder myself. I feel like we're seeing a, we're seeing a pattern here. But, yeah, there we go. Yeah, I definitely. Now, some of these, some of these less so, like this one. You are, you are, you are, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, the straw man comment. That's good.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I love, oh, geez. every once in a while. I feel like I've gotten over most of my childhood stutter, but boy, when it needs to arise, boy does it. I like, oh, I'm really glad that it was me that brought that up for you, not knowing you out of childhood stutter. All right. I think comedically, it actually kind of works sometimes.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, I agree. It's part of your timing. All right, here's one of my favorite things you ever say, and you say it sometimes. Here it is. And that's why the media's doing meat, mop, moop. Yeah, I like that. Meat mop, moup.
Starting point is 00:22:34 fact i think i use that sometimes that's that's a crutch uh meat mop moup or bleep blot blorp that's that's another that's another favorite of mine is bleep blop blop blarp yeah i think that's just a better version of yada yada yada yada really it is it's pretty good though um all right here's one you telling something about tom not knowing words i don't know where this came from but here it is tom don't know the words tom don't know the words don't know voted his number uh no no i'll tell you exactly where that was from yeah uh that was when i was covering the primary in 2020 i was in south carolina covering the tom steyer event yeah where juvenile uh rapper was performing and he was doing back that ass up and uh um tom styer his wife and his kids all came up on stage to dance along
Starting point is 00:23:26 with him and there was a dude next to me that uh looked at his friend and said tom don't know the words. Which that's true. I don't believe that Tom Steyer did know the words. I forgot about that video is amazing. Him dancing up there. Incredible stuff. Oh, it just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:44 there's a lot, a lot to be said about Tom Steyer and his wife's dancing. Yeah, a gift of humanity. All right, here's the, this is my favorite. It came in at number two, but this is my favorite.
Starting point is 00:23:56 All right, here you go. We're going to crypto coin. God damn it. A little bit of Alex Jones there. I think. I think is what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And also good words to live by. Everybody loves the crypto. Oh, people love the crypto. NFTs. You even mention those and the room erupts in joyful praise.
Starting point is 00:24:14 No one cannot get excited. Laughing and singing and saying like praise beat to NFTs. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I think I figured. So this morning I got a notice on Twitter. Open the app. First thing I see is you've been locked out of your account. It's in the app. So it's not like an email or a fake thing. or whatever. And I read it and it says DMCA takedown was issued. They don't tell you what or what tweet or anything. They tell you
Starting point is 00:24:39 nothing. At least YouTube tells you what video is in violation. They don't tell me. So the only thing I can think of is Nintendo lately has gotten super litigious with artists and I did a picture of Kirby wearing pants and I have a feeling
Starting point is 00:24:54 that might have been in. I will say that I think you get a link to the tweet if you're getting suspended. Like if you get put in Twitter jail, then they'll let you know that, or they'll give you the option to delete it and you can get access to your account back.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yeah. But yeah, the DMCA ones, I mean, I don't know. What is the point of them, though? Like, if they're not going to tell me what I need to remove or not do again, what's the point of it? Like, I don't even... It might have also just been a fart in the system
Starting point is 00:25:25 where, you know, somebody updated the wrong data table and next thing you know you've got a DMCA thing with no link could be that's possible I suppose well it annoyed me anyway Twitter because normally having gotten a false DMCA on Twitch once
Starting point is 00:25:43 the DMCA notices are supposed to tell you who DMCA'd you yeah so you can they don't say what it's for usually on YouTube they do because that's part of the process but usually you should know who it is so if there was nothing there then
Starting point is 00:25:59 you know I wouldn't pay much mind to it but maybe it was it wouldn't let me in until I agreed to Twitter's terms of a service once more I had to do it in the app and then I could get in but all the other apps renew your faith to Twitter
Starting point is 00:26:14 yeah my fealty had to kneel bend the knee again to them do you solemnly swear to shit post with the utmost feracity take all arguments as if they're really seriously
Starting point is 00:26:29 and to routinely miss that jokes are for real statements click here. Welcome back to Twitter. Yeah, welcome back to Twitter. Your home. Your home. F those guys. All right, number one, the big number one, all time, everyone loves this one. I think I know this one. Oh, you do? Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I think there's not there's not much that would top one of one of the funniest stories but play the clip oh may not this may not be it because it's really short let me play it here it is oh yeah that's everyone's favorite oh wow no no boodle deedle do nope no boodle deedle do do i mean we have boodle deedle do
Starting point is 00:27:13 but i think the reason that people didn't vote or it didn't win was because that thing got played every tuesday and i think they just saw it as like part of the tap it out it got played out yeah or it just became no that was that's just that's just you know that's that's unfriend me uh Scott why did you uh why did you cancel unfriend me in the instance on the same day yeah i don't know if you guys knew this i went i just bulldozed everything that day and just said eff it the instance took longer because they had sold ads for three more years oh man i wish that was that was the call was made on the same day i wish that was true no the yeah that was uh that's another weird thing
Starting point is 00:27:50 to happen while while you were gone was uh last week i i ended the instance you ended the instance number one in all in all seriousness of amazing run I mean just just an epic amazing run you are I said that you were a Hall of Fame podcaster I then found out that there is an actual podcasting Hall of Fame that you are actually in
Starting point is 00:28:11 I was just stating a fact or no no I said that the instance was a Hall of Fame podcast you are a Hall of Fame podcaster Did you really say that not knowing that I was in the podcasting Hall of Fame at the time that you said it. Did you not know that? I did not know that there was a podcast. That's really funny. I didn't know that there was a podcasting Hall of Fame. No.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Well, because I don't know. Maybe it should be incumbent upon the Hall of Fame to, I don't know, keep that front of mind for people. Completely agree. Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think some of that stuff is goofy and I'm never. Otherwise, like what the hell's, I mean, I don't know. I don't want to denigrate too much because I just heard the other day that a friend of ours is going in and another friend of ours is inducting her but uh yeah so i don't want to denigrate it too much because i i i do like everybody involved in that situation and it is an honor yeah uh but uh yeah no i i i in all seriousness man the instance is just uh a a a staple and i i want to congratulate you on a that
Starting point is 00:29:15 achievement and b uh the fact that now you're going to have more free time to do more stuff that other people are really, really, really going to like. And that's what I think sometimes when you cancel things, like you unceremoniously did with unfriend me, that I just begged you and screamed to not have you cancel, but you were just like, no, Justin, absolutely, I'm very mean. I hate my audience. I'm canceling my friend me.
Starting point is 00:29:42 That what in reality that does is it opens up a lot of free space and time because podcasting is like there's not a lot of other arts where you like do a thing and people like it and then that means you do it for the rest of your life. Yeah, that's weird. It's weird. Regardless of what you're doing and where you're at in life and what's happened. It's just no, people like it and now they will do it and now you will do it forever.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And I think sometimes it is, not sometimes, it is very, very healthy to just say, look, sometimes time comes, time goes. If you like the mind behind it, then you're going to really like what comes next. Yeah, that's, or what's even happening currently. Like, there's a lot of really great stuff happening. Cours popping off like crazy. If you're looking for the spirit of the instance, it kind of lives there now.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Like, there's a lot to, there's a lot to listen to now. And yeah, you're right, I get more time. And despite my allergy to compliments, which I truly have in life, I hate him. I appreciate you saying that, number one. And number two, nobody should believe what word Justin says about unfriend me. I did not cancel this show. It was just, I was crying. I'm like, Scott, why would you do this?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Like, not even to me, but the people. And he just says, like, you know what? I'm cancel it on friend me. Screw you, hippie. And I was like, that's weird that you're doing my voice. That's, all of this might have been me in the mirror now that I'm thinking about it. This might have been me. It might not have been Scott.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Oh, now I get it. I cancel them to friend me. Send me all your hate mail. Send all your hate mail to Justin, but you made them all happy because everybody all week's been going, oh, Justin's going to be there Tuesday. Can you make him do an unfriend me voice? And you just did it. So nicely done. There we go. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody wins. All right. Well, well done. Now, Justin, join us for a little bit of news. It's the news. And it's brought to you by Jules Scott. You guys know Jules Scott. She's amazing at Jules R.PG. Her channel on Twitch is Twitch.com. The Jewels Scott.
Starting point is 00:31:52 She did that amazing episode of the instance last year right after the mess with Blizzard and had amazing perspectives. I don't know if anyone heard that episode. It's amazing episode. You guys should still go check it out. And by the way, all that stuff will stay in perpetuity on the internet.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm not taking the instance off the internet. I'm just not making new ones. Anyway, she streams three times a week, three different sets, three to four hours per set. She does house music on Tuesdays at 8 p.m., dark and emotional melodic and progressive techno on Thursdays. 8 p.m. and chill melodic, progressive and deep house on Sundays. She's really good. That's at 11 a.m. Eastern on Sundays. She's trying to achieve partner by the end of 2022. So every viewer helps boost the average
Starting point is 00:32:31 viewer number. They want to get past 75 if they can, or if she can. Turn the stream on while you're gaming, cooking, chilling, cleaning, exercising. It makes great background soundtrack. Follow her today at Twitch.tv slash the Jules Scott. That's J-U-L-E-S and then just like my name, S-C-O-T-T. And she's awesome. If you guys know Jules at all, you already know this. But if you don't know what, you need to get in there and make that happen. All right. Justin, some news for you. Here, let's break down.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I mean, I know you're involved in the, you know, political upheaval every day. But today we're going to talk about the need to raise awareness of the diagnosed syndrome known as uncomfortable hair syndrome. Have you heard of this? No, but now that I have more hair, I am very uncomfortable with it. So maybe I could be diagnosed with this. Maybe you have it and you just never knew it. Do you think I can get on the plane early? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:33:26 If I have this. Maybe. I would like this a lot. I would like to have some kind of inoffensive, low grade disability that just gives me like very basic privileges over my friends. Sure. You could probably at Walmart, you can drive one of those little scooter things. You want to do that?
Starting point is 00:33:42 I would like to have a little scooter. I would like to really not even one of their scooters. I want to drive one of like the bird or lime scooters. That's really what I want. I'm not sure this disability will get you there. I'm going to be able to drive a little go-kart through just a gas-powered go-kart through Walmart. It might work. A Georgia mom is on a mission to spread joy and raise awareness after her one-year-old son was diagnosed with uncomfortable hair syndrome, an actual thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's a hair disorder she had never heard of until last year. The boy's mother, Caitlin, Samples, told, Good Morning America that a stranger messager last summer on Instagram after seeing a photo of her youngest son, Lockton, Samples. Lockland samples It's an odd name I love it It's fine His name? Is Lockland samples
Starting point is 00:34:26 I thought that was like a medical statement Yeah Like Johnson Get me the Lockland samples Bring the samples in God as he holds it up to the x-ray thing Yeah it's ah it's Jason Bourne
Starting point is 00:34:39 Anyway says Ask if you have been diagnosed With uncomfortable hair syndrome At first you see syndrome And you're like oh my gosh Like something's wrong with my baby Is he in pain or something Samples were called
Starting point is 00:34:49 again, her name is samples. She added, I just went into a tailspin and did a Google deep dive, called his pediatrician, and the pediatrician was like, hang on, let us look at this. They hadn't heard of it either. So they sent us to a specialist, a pediatric dermatologist, at Emroy in Atlanta, and they were able to get the diagnosis. Now, I'm going to recommend people, click this link, or adjusting me, I want to look at it. Look at this kid's hair. Like, it's kind of badass, but apparently this is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:35:16 and is you know worthy of its own diagnosis i'm not laughing at the kid i promise it's just a lot of hair in a very uncomfortable confusing way and i don't know how oh man yeah no he looks like yahoo serious yeah he does maybe yah maybe yahoo serius had that i don't know yeah he's got like like teased out um like in fact his hair kind of looks like one of the those big Russian hats. Yeah. Yeah. Like it has that similar kind of like shape to it. Almost like a semi-translucent Russian hat.
Starting point is 00:35:56 It is semi-translucent as well. I mean, it looks badass. So wait, all right. This is one of my favorite things to do in the world, which is diagnosed. Why is this a story? Right. And to me, this is a story for two reasons. It's specifically a television story because the hair looks awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It looks cool. Yeah. So is the kid in pain? No, according to this, there's no pain involved. Even better. The problem can be you end up what people end up doing when they're younger, according to what I read, is they shave it and they just keep shaving it. They're just like, I'm not really bald, but if I let it grow,
Starting point is 00:36:32 you'd all think there was something wrong with me. So I'm just going to shave my head my whole life. Oh, man. Yeah. I think it looks great. I think it's cool. Yeah, I think the other reason why this is a story is because it has one of the worst names for a disease ever, right?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Like, normally, like, it's named after somebody. It'd be like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, flugel far syndrome or whatever, and, uh, that would just be, and then, like, oh, like, otherwise known as, uh, a crazy hair disease or whatever. That's what we called it in the 1800s when we thought it was a black humors that caused it.
Starting point is 00:37:13 But, but, but, you know, you'd have like a fancy name for it, but, but, but, It's called Uncomfortable Hair Syndrome. And so you're like, oh, immediately, it's a very evocative name. You're thinking like, oh, is it like when my scalp is itchy? Is it like when the hair isn't falling in the right place? No, it just makes him kind of look like he got electrified. It's like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking for here.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But like there was Asperger's, I guess we don't do that anymore. But yeah, name it after somebody. It can't be Yahoo serious because then you just call it the serious disease. That's not good. There's lots of serious diseases, right? Scott, you've raised three children. And so I am woefully inexperienced to answer this. But if you had a baby and that baby had that hair, would you wait until somebody on
Starting point is 00:37:58 Instagram said, hey, there's something wrong with that kid's hair before you poked into it? Well, he's all of, let's see, how old is he? He's only one year old when he got the diagnosis. I would have probably not known either or have been not. You just would have thought it's like, oh, well, this baby's got crazy hair. Yeah, my daughter had crazy hair when she was born. I wouldn't call it this, but it was crazy enough to, we always remarked that, you know, Carter had crazy hair and why is her hair so weird?
Starting point is 00:38:23 And her sister didn't have weird hair like that. And then by the time she was, I don't know, three or four, it became ruling and normal. Yeah. But had this thing like persisted or been, you know, or was something that somebody had to bring up to me. I mean, I don't know. I probably would have done like she did. I would have gone, what? Really?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Is that a thing? Then I would have looked it up. And then I would have gone to a pediatrician and said, is this? I feel like you would have done content about it. Oh, hell yeah. Hell would have just been like, look at the crazy hair on this baby. Yeah. Look at baby crazy hair.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And then it would have been an actual disease and you would have been like, oh, oh, oh, shit. Yeah, no, I totally would have done that. I would have made content and then I would have had a little bit of guilt. And then I would have made the content and called it awareness after that. So there you go. Yeah. Hashtag awareness. Yeah, hashtag uncomfortable hair awareness.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Change your bios and update. your profile pictures with the appropriate frame. Yep. If anyone says anything about the old stuff, I'd just say oh, I have regrets. And also please go to OpenC and buy an NFT of my crazy babysitter. Oh, I hate
Starting point is 00:39:29 how true that is that you just said that. 5,000 limited Ethereum proof of stake. I've told Tom this and others this on different shows and stuff. I don't think I've told you I had two separate people. I say people could have been I don't know, could have been fake, could have been bots.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I don't know. It doesn't matter. But they came to me trying to sell me my own artwork as freshly minted NFTs. And if I didn't get them, then somebody else would sort of deal. And I kept thinking, okay, well, I get that now, potentially, they probably weren't. But I get that they're on the blockchain, in theory, and that you've done all this. And now there are these unique things on the blockchain. But I'm like, bitch, I've got a PSD about 30 layers thick where I created this thing in the first place in 2012. Well, really, that's a dumb thing for them because alerting you to it gives you the power to totally devalue it. Right. It does. You're right. And that's why I don't, that's why I don't think it was real. You go out there and say, hey, these are worthless. I did not consent to them. So you were cutting off the largest audience that would buy it, which is fans of yours. And you can just say, hey, these will always be cursed things. I'm not doing NFTs. If I ever do them, then you will know from me. that I'm doing it, not from anybody. Yeah, I'll be the guy to let you know, you dummies.
Starting point is 00:40:49 But basically, you just tank the value on all of these JPEGs. Yeah, pretty weird how that worked out. All right, one final story before we take our song break today. Ukrainian president, Valdemir Zelensky. I hope I'm saying it right. Vladimir, I think it's Vladimir. Is it Vladimir? Is V-O-L-D-V-O-D-V-O-D-V-O-D-Lododomier.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Look, man, you want to go to Kiev and argue about it? No, I barely want to go to Kiev. He won't dancing with the stars over there. Oh, yeah, I didn't know that. Is that true? Dude, there's a great clip of just the montage of all of his dances, which you know, I don't know if he won. They said on the internet he won, but like, who knows? He's on Twitter. But he had to be in there for a while because there was like a ton of dances.
Starting point is 00:41:30 That man, and he's got moves. I had no idea. Well, this is even weirder. He was the voice of Paddington Bear in the Ukrainian version of Paddington 1 and 2 in that country. I don't know what? I feel like we're in reruns because I feel like. I didn't know the Dancing with the Stars thing but everything else I learned
Starting point is 00:41:48 at some point during the impeachment because that does sound very, very familiar. Oh, maybe, maybe because yeah, he was at the center of that. He was in the news a lot with the impeachment and and
Starting point is 00:42:00 I watched the first half of the pilot of the show that launched him into political success yeah. Serving of the people. I've got notes. I've got notes. So I know. I know. he's busy right now.
Starting point is 00:42:16 But when you've wrapped that up and assuming you're survived that you survived and you're not in a Siberian detention center getting your balls electrocuted. I've got some notes. I'm not saying I need to be the front of the list. Zelensky, I'm saying
Starting point is 00:42:32 appropriately in the back. And then we'll just talk about some ways that you could tighten up that show that you made 15 years ago. Who is this dog and pony show, he'll say to his people. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Come on over here. let's make a podcast oh my gosh can you imagine if you landed that deal you'd be that'd be
Starting point is 00:42:49 the end of justin for us podcast everybody would throw roses at oh my gosh you'd be suddenly joe rogan would be just put put down they just put him down they would they would they would he would uh he would heal he would heal to my power oh man all right by the way can i just say something real quick about spotify podcasts those a holes over there don't refresh artwork so if you do a new version of your album art, which is just part of the RSS feed, which they're all pulling from to get new episodes anyway, they also pull from that URL to say, here's the art for it. And so everyone displays their square version of your album art on every service everywhere, including them when you first sign up. But if you change the damn artwork, Spotify caches that line and never changes it. So if you could have 10 renditions of your art and over the last five years and the one from five years ago is all you're going to see on Spotify.
Starting point is 00:43:47 It annoys me like, wait, really? Yes, yes. I'm pretty sure. I've been fighting this right now and it sucks. They won't, I can't get anyone to fix it. And they're still showing art for a film sack, for example. Our new art is live. Is it new for?
Starting point is 00:44:04 They used to have the old one. By Garrett, by the way. Oh, right, Garrett, you know, he told me. The original and the new one, but yeah, no, it's new on there. Well, then what the heck, man? Why, what the, what the, what the frick? All right. I mean, look, there's a lot of reason to be frustrated with Spotify in terms of their, their podcasting stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:24 But, you know, right now, they took the mantle from Apple. They're the number one podcasting clearinghouse. Oh, are they now? Is it because of that, the Joe Rogan, like, exclusivity show stuff type stuff, do you think? You think that's what did it? I mean, you know, and also Apple has like went three decades not giving a crap about this thing that they totally owned and they did not care about. They, like, a month ago, they were like, oh, we're going to do paid things and you can subscribe on Apple. And it's like, well, that's stupid late.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Why don't you do better things to your product? And then maybe people will want to buy things. And Apple was like, ah, you are. poor let's go make another iPhone and they all went over and made an iPhone that I also purchased but yeah Apple has not cared about
Starting point is 00:45:18 podcasting and Spotify really does care about it and is spending a lot of money on it it's just a shame that they've decided to jam the experience into an app that is optimized to do another thing. Yeah I don't love the experience over there I'll have to admit. Not a huge fan but we're old man
Starting point is 00:45:33 we're like the the wildlings beyond the wall like We are very set in our ways. We like our podcatchers, very specific with our specific things, kids. I saw you asking yesterday, what was the overall poll winner? I think Pocketcast looked like it was winning, did it for you when you asked on Twitter? You know, I haven't gone back and I can just scroll through and just be like, I don't know, let me, let me sample it.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's just me like walking through the streets. Like, I just kind of feel like Bell and Beauty and the Beast. People are just shouting from their windows, like, pocketcast, don't cast. Overcast, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. And then there's my brother, the comedic one, my little brother, just discordant at the end of the block. Just like an old drunk tumbles from behind a dumpster. It just goes, SoundCloud. That's great.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I like the SoundCloud guy. I like your brother. I think that's funny. My little brother is the only person who primarily listens to podcasts on SoundCloud. That's amazing. SoundCloud's great for hosting that stuff, but who would, I don't know if I could use it to listen to him. That'd be weird. Oh, I have no, no idea. I don't either. No idea that he is, and he has a podcast, too. It's not like, anyway, my brother's
Starting point is 00:46:51 weird, but, uh, it's all right. We all have some. I think it was primarily, like, our audience has an over-representation of, uh, pocketcast and, uh, downcast and an overcast. I think those, those are the three most popular non-big things. And then other than that, a lot of people on YouTube. People love podcasts on YouTube. They just put it on the background and yeah, which is weird because the reason I got banned from YouTube is because I was putting film sacks up there and
Starting point is 00:47:19 boy, talk about your DMCA freak out. I was using just like fair use, single short clips of like Arnold Schwarzenegger making a single line from the movie we were covering or whatever and they shut down my freaking account for that. So that show never goes on there anymore, but all the rest of them are just copies of what we're doing right now. Like I'm recording us so I can put it up there after
Starting point is 00:47:39 and I'm always surprised how many people want to just throw it up there and let it play I don't know why, just not my thing we put up on Modern Rogue the premiere of World's Greatest Con and the teaser both of which have a clip of Britney Spears performing baby
Starting point is 00:47:58 one more time live and not a flag no ding nary a ding I don't know I feel like once you hit about a million subs, they quit giving you shit. I don't know. I don't know how it works. You think you're persecuted? I think that I'm at my lowly, since I really don't focus much on
Starting point is 00:48:18 YouTube, my lowly 16,000 followers or whatever it is over there, I don't think they are happy to target me, but anywhere where there's like real ad business happening, I think they're like, well, maybe a little softer glove over here in this category. I don't know. I think because all that's automated these days. Yeah, it's a lot of robots. You're right. If it recognizes, also, we've gotten dinged for step before in season one
Starting point is 00:48:41 we make we make a comparison to a Nazi official being incompetent and call him the George Costanza
Starting point is 00:48:48 of the Nazis and then play the Seinfeld theme the like and that got flagged
Starting point is 00:49:01 by YouTube and so we had to change it to a royalty free version of
Starting point is 00:49:07 the Seinfeld theme. Oh, that's hilarious. Those are the worst, the royalty-free versions. Because it's like, instead of bair-p-p-b-b-b-r-b-r-b-r-b-r-b-r-r. Like, it's all, it's like the same instrument. Also, it doesn't, it actually worked for the Seinfeld thing,
Starting point is 00:49:21 because that dude did it live. Right. Like, he scored Seinfeld live. So, like, there are certain hits that we remember. But in every episode, he was doing wacky stuff. So it's like, you know, the fact that this one was a wackier thing. It's like, people got it. It's like,
Starting point is 00:49:37 George Costanza. Mep, me, ma'm like, you kind of got, you got this far as we're going to do. Okay. As long as it worked, that's all we need. All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back to this here show, we're going to spend a little bit of time with Bill Duran. I was going to talk about making stuff today. We don't know what, but it'll be great.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm sure of it. And then we'll have a science segment with Bobby. So stick around. This is what we replaced Justin with. We have two segments on a Tuesday now. There we go. Yeah. That's so, a guy's so big.
Starting point is 00:50:03 It took two people to fill his hole. Oh, wait a minute. That was the wrong way to say that. Anyway, I regret nothing. Let's go ahead and play you a song. This week I get to choose all the stuff because Brian's out of town and I am deciding to go a little Utah connection here.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Utah Connection. There's a band here in Utah called The Aces, and it's made up of, I believe, four total lovely young women who make great music and I really like them. I feel like they represent our state really well in terms of like the cool indie scene of music that's here that no one ever knows about.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And I don't know. I describe them as sort of, of indie pop. They make a song called 801, which is all about growing up in Salt Lake City, which I totally jive to because, again, I'm, I like my hometown, and I think there's a lot of stuff in that song that is like bidingly cool. Anyway, it's the Aces. It's their song 801. You can get on their whole album called, hold on, I was going to give them an album pimp here. Here we go. Under My Influence is the name of the song, or the album. So I definitely would recommend checking out the entire album. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:51:06 So here are the Aces. We'll be right back. Growing up in the 801, there's only one club, so we blow it up. Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes, but bring your guilt and we're going to let it go. Quarter to 12 on a Saturday night Hit in a jade while we wait in night Let's leave all those things that we were top behind Because we and ourselves can never be a crime
Starting point is 00:51:59 So what is your mama thinking So what is your daddy think? Forget what they think, forget what they think, yeah Growing up in the 801 There's only one club, so we go with us Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes But bring your guilt and we're gonna let it go Give me a morning
Starting point is 00:52:23 Gonna rock to the rhythm that brings our rebels and get higher and higher And higher Give me a morning, gonna rock to the rhythm That brings our rebels and get higher and higher I am me and my girl with the stars of the show everyone
Starting point is 00:52:45 watches us out on the floor I silver and see while she gets me a drink and I love a soul so I don't care what they think because that's how it goes there's not a soul that don't know yeah that's how we roll
Starting point is 00:53:03 Growing up in the 801 There's only one club So we go it on Leave your churches and your Sunday close But bring your guilt and we're going to let it go Give me a morning Gonna rock till the rhythm That brings our rebels and get higher and higher
Starting point is 00:53:22 Give me a money Gonna rock till the rhythm That brings our rebels and get higher and higher And higher Growing up in the 801, 801. Leave your churches and your Sunday clothes But bring your guilt and we won't let it go You me and monie
Starting point is 00:54:12 Gonna rock to the rhythm That brings our rebels and get higher and higher Give me and moni Gonna rock to the rhythm That brings our rebels and get higher and higher And higher Pootrap is a unique new product that fits any size dog without any hassles, and your pets will love it too. It's easy to install on your dog and makes your walking experience fun.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Walking your dog just got easier with a poo trap. No poops, no whoops. Eat recycled food for a happier, healthier life. her name is the morning stream and she dances on the sand and we're back everybody once again that was the Aces with 801 from their album under my influence do check it out if you have a moment they stream everywhere you can get your music YouTube as well I wish I could play those songs live because that song's really good and I'd like to hear it is it yeah
Starting point is 00:55:33 I love it. I love it. And your best impression of it, Brighton, just the chorus. I'm not going to sing it because I'm terrible at it. Maybe like, like, we're not like singing, just like the melody. Like you can just like. All right, I'll tell you what, I'll do this. Even though people at home already heard it, I'm pausing YouTube, because they're the ones that get me in trouble. And I'm going to play just.
Starting point is 00:55:56 No, no, no. You should do it with your mouth. That's the fun part. That's the worst part. I'm never doing that. No, that's exactly. That's why it's great. Like, I had a thing on the jury podcast for a while where I was the undisputed king of mouth.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah. I did mouth guitar like nobody's business. Yeah. He just gave me a song and I would do the, the guitar solo with my mouth. And then people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Well, I could wrap it. I could say, because she has such a cute little, like, great voice. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I can't do it. Maybe just the guitar. Uh, growing up in the 801. Uh, let's see. going blowing up the club because there's only one or something like i can't remember the lyric it's really you got to hear this song because it's great it like rips on my state and throws love at my state at the same time it's amazing it's amazing so you like you like it because it's well written i like it it's also super uh catchy yeah it's got it's like how how do it go
Starting point is 00:56:57 gosh dang it you're still trying to get me to do it all right i'm going to do this i'm serious here listen just a taste okay no I don't really want to hear it there's only one club so we blow it up all right there you go that's it there's only one club so we blow it up and they're wrong there are more than one club but that's it's funny because
Starting point is 00:57:17 they say there's only one oh and they say any club defender Scott Johnson watch out man don't slander the the population of clubs for old bottle service Johnson over here he is He is a fixture at all of the clubs, and there are multiple in Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Yeah. He is king of the VIP. We're lousy with clubs now. All right. Punish Props incoming. We're going to get our old pal Bill in. I don't even know if he knew you were going to be here today. So this would be a nice treat for Bill, I would assume.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. Yeah. So we'll find out shortly, but I've got to play this first. Where's this thing? Here it is. Your bat caves open there, Bill. Bill Duran joins us from Punish Props.com from the Pacific Northwest and his home studio where he makes all kinds of cool stuff, which we'll talk about today. Justin and I are
Starting point is 00:58:05 very excited to see you, Bill. How are you? Yeah, Bill. I'm excited to be back on Tuesdays with Justin. Yeah. I do. I'm excited. I miss my buddy, Justin. Yeah. Yeah. It's been forever since I've seen Bill. I feel like we were settling into a to a routine there, Bill, where we would see each other multiple times a year. And then the cold grasp of the vid ripped our friend. But I promise. Austin is high on my list of places to visit just after Hawaii. I'm going to Hawaii next month and that's important. That's a very good place to go. Yeah, yeah. It should always be a priority for you.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I'm looking at a very unusual thing for me to do. I don't like cruises. I find them claustrophobic and annoying. But I think I'm going to go on one and we're thinking about doing the the Alaska Princess Cruise business. because it just seems cool. Ain't that like 12 days? Yeah, well, no, this one's only, they have a 12-day one. They got like a six-day.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Still pretty chunky for me, but... That's a lot of time. Yeah. So I have a million questions, but we're just eating into a Bill's segment. We'll refrain from them. Now I'm curious what your questions would be. I mean, you know, it's a cruise. Just be good.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Number one, like, I'm just shocked that you're going to a physical location that's not Anaheim or Las Vegas. Oh, I see. I see. The biggest shock is that there is a non-Anaheim or Las Vegas destination for Scott Johnson because as far as I knew, I didn't know that you existed outside of those three locations. Yeah, Salt Lake, yeah, we've got the little trifecta. Well, when Kim, look, our 30, this sounds crazy to say, our 30 year anniversary is this year, this fall. And that's a huge number.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And so it just didn't feel right to walk up. him and go, you know, for our 30th, I was thinking, Vegas. How do you feel about Vegas? So, yeah, we're going to, we're going to do something cool. We haven't locked it in yet, but we got, we got ideas. Anyway, forget about me. Let's remember, let's talk about Bill. Bill is here. He's got stuff to make or he's making things and always got something cool to tell us about. Bill, what are you doing this week? Yeah. Yesterday, I put together a CNC machine, a CNC router. I just got my hands on a Shea Poco from
Starting point is 01:00:29 Who are the folks that make that? Charbyte 3D. Oh, okay. Yeah, Shea Poco. Gotcha. Can you tell the people of home who aren't familiar what the two C stand for
Starting point is 01:00:38 and a C machine? Yeah, because I'm a big music factory. Yes, right. It's a computer numerical control. That's what it stands for. But it's like a 3D printer, but it's got a prim router in it so it can cut material instead of printing it.
Starting point is 01:00:53 So my brother-in-law, Steve, has one of these that does wood. This is the same kind of thing, I guess. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. I plan on using mine to cut up metal parks to make props. So that's my goal. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:07 They're really cool. And the thing I wanted to talk about was that you can buy a lot of pre-made machines, and sometimes you can buy them unassembled. Sometimes you have to buy them unassembled. And putting together a machine like that's pretty cool. It's a lot of fun. It drops the cost of the machine, and it makes it easier to ship, if they can ship it in parts instead of this big, bulky thing.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Sure. And frequently, like, so Prusa makes really nice 3D printers. You can buy the Mark 3S plus. I3 Mark 3S plus. That's the newest one. Wow. For a thousand bucks, assembled. Or for 750, you can buy it as a kit.
Starting point is 01:01:47 So you save $250 if you put it together yourself, which is a quarter, it's 25% off. That's pretty great. Is there? Wow. Prus is a dude. I just realized that this guy named Joseph Prusu who makes all these printers and is famous for it
Starting point is 01:02:01 and I had no idea it was a guy I thought it was like some big well it's probably a big company now but wait what did you think
Starting point is 01:02:06 it was like a deity I didn't know what I thought it was like you know it on the mountaintop for you uh who else you think is making these things it's like hearing the name
Starting point is 01:02:15 or I don't know like a big big name I guess they all are people's names but I didn't know this guy was like making printers market research like oh we need a great name for power tools.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Prusa. The screw, D hammer. No, no, shut up, Walt. DeWalt, you'll get a raise. I can't wait to meet Jeffrey Ultimaker. Yeah. He's a great guy, Jeff Ultimaker.
Starting point is 01:02:41 He goes by Jeff to his friends, by the way. Anyway, well, yeah, so that's cool. So you had to assemble this yourself. You just get the parts and make it, or what? Yeah, I've actually put together one of those Prusa machines. They're really well built, and the instructions are really great. I find the process of putting together a CNC machine like that pretty enjoyable. I think other people maybe it's not, maybe they're not that into that.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But it's like a really cool tinker toy kit or an erector set, you know, those relevant toys that kids are talking about these days. It's like that, but in the end you get a really cool machine when you're all done. I love your attitude about that because that stuff just gives me, just thinking about assembling one of these makes me go, oh, I'm going to have someone else do this. I don't want to do it. And I used to be like the opposite. Like in my 20s, if I was going to get a computer, I'm building that computer. I'm going to get the parts. I'm going to go nuts.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I'm going to be in there for hours. I'm going to F up 50 times and it won't matter because I'll get there eventually and I'll fix it. And then I'll break it again and then fix it again. Like that was my attitude. And now I'm like, oh, I don't know, man. I don't have time to do this anymore. So I admire this about you. I wish I felt that way about making something.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I do still buy Like some of my 3D printers came pre-assembled But the shape out go I didn't have a choice So All right well then you've just got a good attitude About things you don't have a choice better I chose to enjoy it Yeah that's great
Starting point is 01:04:06 It wasn't that hard Most of the assembly is as simple as Lining up parts and then screwing them together And it came with all the tools necessary And it had video instructions Some kits will do this So you just follow along the video carbide 3D made their own video.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Other companies that make machines like this, they'll either have really good instructions with images and words to follow or fans have made their own assembly videos. Some of the cheaper 3D printers, I will say, the instructions are a little dicey, a little weird. I put together a really cheap one a few years ago, and there was a lot of guessing, but I guess you kind of get what you pay for there.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, did the... Yeah, I would say, with stuff like that man i can't imagine a world of assembling anything uh without youtube yeah totally it is just the total game changer no i mean like everything like uh if you want to i have a game from 1996 i'm trying to review for my retro show and uh as i was getting ready to do it i could not beat this boss in this old ass game just couldn't do it and i thought well i'll never beat that and then my bruce
Starting point is 01:05:21 brain went, no, you dummy, someone's done it, and it's on YouTube, and sure enough, I go in there and in four seconds, I see the trick, and I go fix it, and I beat the boss. Like, it was nothing. We live in a time of embarrassment of riches. We just don't know it. I know. Back in the day, you'd have to go find an old dog-eared
Starting point is 01:05:37 copy of Nintendo Power. Yeah, if you were lucky, they talked about the game you cared about, and then, you know, you still had a manual this thick for the stupid game that came packed in it. Like, just a different era, but man, as much as we sometimes bemoan the shit that goes on in today's modern world.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I think this stuff's pretty great. Maybe we're just all big babies complaining. And not the real men like Bill Duran building his own CNC machine. That's right. Aren't straight. Build Duran. Wait, I have a question about this, though. Computer on the computer end, anything will do?
Starting point is 01:06:11 You just have certain software or whatever to do the C&C part, you know, the computer-aided part. Sure. For the C&C stuff, I use Fusion 360. I'll do all my 3D modeling in that and you can also do all your cam work paths for that right in Fusion which is great and then Carbite has their own software
Starting point is 01:06:30 for sending all that stuff to the machine I haven't done that part yet not with this machine so I'm talking about it now as if it'll be a piece of cake but we'll see but yeah Fusion 360 is really good for that okay so you're so it's
Starting point is 01:06:47 we're not talking about some crazy specialty stuff you're going to have to subscribe to or anything like if you're already using fusion you've got it yeah and it's uh free for hobbyists right right and you still count as one of those right you don't have to you know pretend you're uh depends on how i'm using it yeah when when when's the man gonna come after you for being too good that's right i mean i'm already you're already too late because you're too good but i don't has anyone noticed like the man has noticed no i have i have friends at autodesk okay i'm I'm set.
Starting point is 01:07:20 This is how it used to be for me when I was using Photoshop for different things. I could use a lot of free stuff because I could get away with it. But the mini you start publishing something or kick-starting something. It's like, wait a minute. You might be in the pro category. How does that work? Does Adobe send you an email saying like, hey, we're trying to look up your license, famous artists, and we can't find it.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Well, what they do now, I mean, they used to kind of do that. If they could, I don't know how they enforced it. I never got bugged. But these days, your only choice really is. to use something ancient that's completely out of copy or use the CC service, which is now a subscription. Well, that's easy. I mean, that's, yeah, because they made it, they realized like, okay, just make the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Yeah. So people can pirated. You're one of the most pirated things in the history of the world. You're going to just get the subscription. Yeah. You're the most pirated software, probably in the history of software. So your solution, actually, I think it's a good one for them. I think it's still too much for what they charge, for what they give you.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And there's lots, I have lots of complaints. But that's the way to do it if you don't want to get people pirating anymore. But anyway, that's not important. What's important is all the cool shit bill is going to make out of this machine. That's right. What are you going to make? Like a sword or something? Yeah, what are you doing there?
Starting point is 01:08:33 A gun? The first thing is some Ghostbusters afterlife, ectoggle parts. I think that's the first thing I cut out of aluminum. Do you like that movie? I didn't watch it. Yes, it's very good. I watched it again recently, and it's just as good. Just as good the second time.
Starting point is 01:08:49 There's a very creepy Harold Ramos scene. Oh, really? I wouldn't call it creepy. I enjoyed the Harold Rameh scenes. Did they ghost him or something? Make him a ghost? I'm not going to spoil anything.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I haven't seen it. Yeah, it's still haven't seen it. I need to see it. It's on something now. Can I just watch it? Yeah, it's just a boy, sometimes the de-aging stuff is great. Like all the John Goodman stuff this season
Starting point is 01:09:11 and Royal Gemstones was, or righteous gemstones was amazing. It looked like old John Goodman flawless. And then sometimes Luke Skywalker's jittery face. Yeah. They're right with its cold dead eyes. You'd think
Starting point is 01:09:27 you would think that would be the best one because they've got all the tools of their disposal, they've got ILM, they've got all that history. They should be able to make a better de-aging for it was so embarrassing that they hijacked a full episode of the Mandalorian to show
Starting point is 01:09:44 that they got better at it over the summer. Oh yeah, that's right. And didn't some some fan did like a deep fake treatment that was better. And no, he went he went to ILM. Oh, that's right. He works there now. They hired him because he basically just used stuff that's like off the rack. Like
Starting point is 01:10:00 it's free. It's available on the internet and they were like, like, oh, it turns out don't use all this old tech that you have. Anyway. Yeah. So afterlife, good. And you're making props from it, Bill. That's right. And I have a great I have a great recommendation
Starting point is 01:10:15 related to that movie. Oh, let's Let's do it. What's that? So my friend Ben Edie, I'm dropping a video in the old chat there. He's got a YouTube channel and he worked on the movie. He was in charge of a handful of the props including the RTV, which is the remote trap vehicle. Yes, they put a ghost trap on an RC truck, which makes me so happy. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:37 During production, Ben was in charge of driving it and he was also responsible for accidentally destroying it. Oh my gosh. They got the shots they wanted, but now he had this. destroyed prop from the movie, so he did a little video series on his YouTube channel where he rebuilds the whole thing. Oh, that's great. That's very cool. That's great. Yeah, how, well, I don't want to know, I guess. I want to know how they destroyed it, but I guess he gets into that. I'll watch it later. I don't want to spoil it.
Starting point is 01:11:04 But my guess is he ran it under the car or some shit like that. Probably what happened. Probably what happened. All right. Well, thanks for the reminder to watch that movie. I don't know why I don't know why. I don't want to go to theaters because my theaters suck now. uh i want to i'll get it now that it's on some streaming thing wherever it is uh bill as always the pleasure is ours and i'm really glad that it was a tuesday so you can hang out with the guest host justin robert young today darn straight yeah it's like a dream bill hearing your melodic voice again i mean i guess i could call you and we could actually just be friends off
Starting point is 01:11:37 live it's true it's so sweet when it happens online yeah right it doesn't count unless hundreds of people are listening it doesn't count unless it's content that's right I'm glad we could facilitate this regroup, this recoupling, this coitus of words, really, that you're having. One of the two men brought in to fill my hole. That's right. Bill, have a fantastic week. We'll see you next time. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:00 He's out of here. All right. Now, the other guy that fills your hole. It's a lot funnier when you're on the show and you hang up on guests. Oh, it's great. It's a lot funnier when you are, when you're watching how abrupt the guests are shoved off the show. Yeah. I don't know if anyone I've ever said this or not or made this clear. I do this to everyone in all my life. So if I call my mom and I'm on the phone with her and we get toward the end and I sense the end coming, it's work. I'm done. Like I'm out. So it was never, you know, some people take it personally. It's just the way I am. You know who apparently also was a big thing with that is Harry Reid, the now recently deceased senator from Nevada. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:12:44 he apparently was famous for hanging up on people, including the president of the United States. That's fantastic. I feel that. I know, I feel like Harry Reid and I would have gotten along, maybe, maybe barely. Maybe on that one point. I don't know. Actually, I don't have anything bad or good to say about Harry Reid. He was Mormon. Oh, was he? Well, then that you know the deal. Then I have to like him if he was a Mormon guy. I don't, I don't know. I don't know what, what the handbook says for the Mormon. I don't know what the Wikipedia says. on uh it says nothing like that also but i really didn't know that that's interesting you know i do like to make a big deal out of i think you might have converted too oh all right well there's lots of those so yeah possible uh hey look who it is oh we got to play this hold on we got a little intro for him science they don't they won't can my account for playing that uh it's bobby
Starting point is 01:13:39 frankenberger our science correspondent comes on tuesdays talks about cool science stuff going on in the world. Bobby, welcome back. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? How are you, Justin? What's up, Bobby? Yeah. It's nice to talk to you. Have you voiced a voice with Justin since since he battered you and others on A&P? Did that? You do know I'm a producer on that show now, right? Yeah. Oh, right. Because you have to do stuff now where, yeah, of course you have to. I'm not thinking. I also have talked to you since then in that show. We're talking now. Can you believe it? This is insane. All right. Yeah. The magic of the internet. Well, it's great. to have you here. I have no idea. Well, I guess you kind of did hint as to what we're going to talk about
Starting point is 01:14:18 today, but I'll let you introduce it. What are we doing? Well, I thought it was time to talk about COVID again. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. You know, the CDC just changed some, they updated their framework and changed their guidelines on masking stuff. And so I figured whenever that kind of thing happens and a lot of people might start hearing like state and local governments changing their guidelines, their local mask mandates. And I know that, for example, our school district here for my kids, they sent out a big email saying, nobody has to wear masks anymore. And so people are wondering why the sudden change and, you know, is it a good idea? Is there anything science to back it up? And so that seems like the right time to bring a
Starting point is 01:15:09 up yeah i'd be curious about it we were talking earlier just to give you uh some some undertone there politically uh there was a meeting of governors in south florida over the last week and what was underlined there is something that we have heard reported and and outright stated by a lot of governors and specifically blue state governors that they were desperate for the federal government to give them some kind of guidance on relaxing uh relaxing covid measures masking is probably the most controversial of them. But that is something that now is happening, happens to be happening the same day
Starting point is 01:15:50 as the state of the union. But I would presume that during Biden's speech tonight, we will probably hear some kind of reframing that allows that these governors to make moves so they don't feel like they are running ahead of federal guidance in the way that some of the red state governors have kind of made a meal out of and made their identity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Right. Right. And so a lot of people are wondering, you know, what's this? Is there even science behind it or is this just political, you know? Yeah. And there is some science behind it. In fact, a lot of people who have been following this and listening to the experts have really probably seen this coming for at least a couple of weeks now.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I mean, the CDC just a week or two ago was talking about wanting to make a move like this. I'm not really sure why they talked about it that way. Like, do they, maybe you know more than I do, Justin. Are they in the practice of often just talking about, we're just thinking about making some changes, because that's kind of how it sounded. Oh, the CDC is not a good organization for this stuff. Like, they're not built for it.
Starting point is 01:16:58 They don't do it well. And by this stuff, I mean, in the moment guidance. The CDC is an amazing detective, historian agency. that can go back and analyze things and then tell us a full story after things have passed. What we've seen, both with the CDC and the FDA, to a certain extent, is that the process of government, they are not built for this, even if you're going to be the most kind as you possibly can to them. So tie that up with the fact that there is gigantic political pressures on them from various different places. and you get kind of what we've gotten, basically.
Starting point is 01:17:37 It makes a lot more sense when you think of it like that. Yeah, so the politics are inseparable with decisions that are made like this, but in case people are worried, there is a reason to believe that it might be time to start think, reassessing how we do mask mandates or not how we do them, but when we relax or not. So first thing to note is that the CDC isn't making any recommendations that you shouldn't be wearing masks or that you shouldn't get vaccinated or anything like that. Basically, this change is not so much about what they think you should be doing, but more like they're changing the methods by which they determine what the risk level is.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Because whether you should be wearing a mask or not, as you're probably familiar with this, is determined by the risk level on a county level. You can go to the CDC website and look at that map and it's got, you know, you're either red, yellow or green and and if it's red you should be wearing a mask and if it's yellow or green then you know there's less of a reason to and and they've changed the way that they calculate what your risk level is on a county level before it was mostly about case numbers which makes sense they were just looking at how many how many cases of COVID are going around in our area and so if it's high then you should it's a high risk area if it's not then it's a low risk area
Starting point is 01:19:03 But they're now focusing less on case numbers and more on COVID severity and hospitalization or hospital capacity. Right. So the focus is more about how severe are these and can hospitals handle the severe cases in your area? And if the hospitals are fine, it's a lower risk area. And if the case numbers are, you know, it's just less about the case numbers is the point. I mean, they still play a factor, though, right? They still, you know, you can't. They do, but one of the reasons, so, so, yeah, there's, when you look at how they're making these determinations, there's sort of like a filter that it goes through. And if, and if the case numbers are high enough, like I think, you know, it's always about seven day average. What are the, what are the daily case rates over the past seven days on average?
Starting point is 01:19:53 And if it's over 200, then it can't, for example, if it's over 200 in your county, the average, then you cannot be considered low risk. but if it's if it's under 200 then they then they you know consider basically after they consider that step then they look at hospitalization or hospital capacity and and and severity of the cases they are seeing the reason they can't look at case numbers by the way is because we don't have reliable data official data on that anymore because of how how everybody's got home tests. So with everybody taking tests in their home, the government can't track that as well. I think also Omicron changed the math on it.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Amicron was so contagious, but markedly less deadly, that if you were only going on case counts, then Amicron was by far the worst wave that we have ever seen. And that was, like you mentioned, with there being a. a gigantic glut of at-home test, which means that we were likely undercounting the cases possibly by like a factor of two or three. Yeah, we're almost
Starting point is 01:21:10 certainly undercounting them. Yeah, and if you went to the, just a couple of weeks ago before they made these changes, if you went to the CDC website and looked at that map, the whole country was red. Yeah, I remember that. And yet, it was the least deadly of the waves. Right. Like,
Starting point is 01:21:26 by the number of people affected, and even by the raw numbers, it came in, under the amount of dead through the delta wave, which less people got, but more people died from. So that's part of it. And I think also politically, to go back to some of those pressures, there is, and also scientifically, there is a question of, are we in a zero COVID goal or are we in an endemic COVID goal? And if we are in a zero COVID goal, then if there is COVID around, everybody should not
Starting point is 01:21:58 leave their house. If we are in an endemic COVID goal and we understand that even if we were to eradicated from America tomorrow, that somebody would come in from some other place and they would bring it and we would start the process all over again, then the question is, when is it best to heighten restrictions as opposed to keeping them on indefinitely? Right. And we're at the stage where epidemiologists are all agree that this is, you know, we're leaving the pandemic phase and we're going into an endemic phase. And so that's exactly the right way to look at it. Once, if the whole country's read on that map and people aren't, like you said, the severity is really low, then that's not a useful map. You have to come up with a new way to think about it and
Starting point is 01:22:46 to assess risk because it's just not useful to just say, the whole country, stay inside. even though it's not, you know, it's not as bad as it's been in the past. Right. That's the hard part to me is like all of this like figuring it out and going, oh, we can't base it on this data alone or we have to have a more nuanced approach to hospitalization versus case number, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like all that stuff makes sense to me as we, as they refine their ability to understand it, report it, whatever. The part, the hard part is remains. How do you now connect to the public on this and not just look like you, you. don't know what you're doing, even though I don't perceive this as them not knowing what they're
Starting point is 01:23:27 doing. They may not be great at it, but, you know, there's plenty of scientists and smart people and statisticians and people understand this shit that are working on this. But your ability to let my neighbor who already doesn't trust you, why it's just up and down with mask requirements, he's just not going to buy it. Like that's, to me, the biggest wall is still there, which is communication and how to like not just gain trust i mean i think they're doing the best that they can with that honestly what can you do now like you can't talk about anything anymore without eight different takes all fighting against each other you know like it's i don't feel like there is a way to win that contest well i mean i think look they are they're doing the best they can but
Starting point is 01:24:14 they are not immune from being a political organization well for sure right you know there is there is certain voices that are going to say certain things and ultimately everybody serves at the pleasure of the president whether they be on the team that you root for or the other one so uh the reality of mandates from a governmental perspective is different from that of the CDC the CDC can say from our you know seat in DC this is what it should be right that then goes to enforce on the local level. And I think there is a real question for as much as we want to believe
Starting point is 01:24:56 that everybody's a, you know, a Sim and Sim City. And we can just say, mask mandate, and then everybody puts on their mask, mask mandate off. And then everybody takes it off. Is that you only have as much,
Starting point is 01:25:09 these mitigation measures are only as good as they are applied by the people voluntarily. Yeah. And if we are moving into an endemic phase, where locally, the point is, hey, when we're in a wave, let's use these mitigation factors. When we're not, we're going to give you guys, quote-unquote, you know, the ability not to do it. I think that that builds up the reservoir for people to say, okay, let's take the mitigation factors.
Starting point is 01:25:39 In the same way that, you know, people of most stripes, you know, we're okay with two weeks to stop the spread, even though it was an unprecedented kind of change to our lives. Right. The reservoir was full. Now, oh, boy, we are in very dicey territory for some people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:02 But I think that ultimately, you know, we have to, part of the equation has to be whether, like you said, Justin, whether people are going to take these mandates seriously when we do need them. and so they're thinking about that and yeah i mean i guess the question is when will they be more willing to obey them if they never go away yeah or if when things are low and when risk is lower you are not putting them in and so now they feel you know uh uh they they feel special or they feel there's a reason there's a justification you can show the numbers to say all right guys here's where we're at please you know take care of your
Starting point is 01:26:50 neighbor and and do this as opposed to like well there's a mask mandate forever and that's the other the other element of it is that if they become unpopular the politicians aren't going to want to do it because yeah that's the other thing yeah they'll just not say anything
Starting point is 01:27:06 or it won't do whatever their advantageous angle is to take they'll take it and so I can't I mean we can't unless you're arresting people for not wearing masks then like these are these are statements right these are affirmational statements they are they are a thing that a teacher writes on the blackboard it's it's not it's not like you're not getting arrested for not wearing a mask you're getting a fine for not wearing a mask right right you you may get kicked out of a out of a yeah I don't know what Chipotle but that's Chipotle not not your government so yeah like even even if there's not a mask mandate the Chipotle can say please wear a mask and then hand your mask can be in government yeah they can say they can do whatever they want They can say, I don't like your shirt. Get out.
Starting point is 01:27:48 That's fine. You want to go fight that in the courts? Go ahead, I guess. Well, that'll be the last time that I wear my F. Chipotle T-shirt. Yeah, I wondered about that. So interesting. So, but good news from all this, my take is, and I could be wrong. So, you know, Bobby tell me if I'm up in the night here.
Starting point is 01:28:06 But it just seems like maybe we're seeing the lighting in the tunnel, even if there's some endemic aspects to things. We're not hearing about massive new. new variants or crazy new outbreaks or anything. I mean, maybe we're heading down a good space finally. I don't know. Can I take that from this? Yeah, I think certainly we are and things are getting better. All the experts keep saying, like, I keep hearing people say, that we're looking to have a spring break this year. Not that we stopped having spring breaks, but you know what I mean. Things are getting better. Everybody's, what, what? What, over 200
Starting point is 01:28:46 million people in the U.S. have gotten the main course of vaccine. Over 100 million have been boosted, and then the rest got COVID because they didn't. So there's a immunity, quote unquote, is, you know, we have a high level of the population that are that are now resistant in some way to the virus. And that's a good thing. We're moving out of the pandemic phase. And it's likely that this is the last major surge that we'll see of this for, hopefully, for quite a while. This is not the only endemic virus that is. No, no. It's not like, it's, going endemic is not like, like, it's not like hopeless.
Starting point is 01:29:36 That's not what that means. That means we're out of the pandemic phase. We're now able to deal with this, you know? Yeah, no, it's progress. It's like we've been able to do with a whole lot of things. some things get eradicated but you know in a lot of cases stuff stays forever and you get flu shots for a reason and you know i'm fine with that phase if we if we're truly there it's just when they start going ah the bastard uh variance coming and it goes through your butthole and now we're all dead like you know i just don't want any more news like that i just want like this to chill out like the happiest i've been all year was when i heard the news that and maybe we talked about it with you bobby i don't remember but that whole conversation around some new variants that they were calling deltacron because they found that the delta variant and the omicron variant had merged somehow into a new supervirus and turns out it was just screwed up charts or
Starting point is 01:30:25 something and it never existed. That's a great. It was a great day. I think I went and got a milkshake or something to celebrate. I was stoked. I was like, yeah, dude. That was bullshit. You were stoked that it was not the truth.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That it was not the truth. Okay. Yeah. There was not yet another terrible wave. Yeah. As soon as there's a wave, there's a wave, there's a. The news story is primed for like, and guess what? There's another one.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah. Like, DJ Khalid, another one. Another one. Yeah, I have him do it every time. He's, he's perfectly. Okay, college for the CDC. That's what I'm saying. I know Rochelle Willinsky is good, but college?
Starting point is 01:31:06 College? College, great, right? Great. They don't want me to be CDC director. So we got to be CDC director. Another one. That's a pretty good DJ Collett. I'm impressed with your...
Starting point is 01:31:18 I love DJ Collin. Yeah, you do a good impression. Major key policy points. Major key. Major key. Very good. Well, all right. There's a map on the CDC website.
Starting point is 01:31:29 You can go there and if your county is red, you probably need to be wearing a mask. This is the high level what it means. If it's red, wear a mask. If it's yellow or green, you can probably just not wear a mask. unless you're on very close quarters, like public transportation or something like that. Yellow means that if you're a high risk individual or if you're close to someone who's high risk, then you need to still be careful. Just do like me.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Have a mask in your pocket and just have it ready and just have it. It's fine. You know, I do. Yeah, do that. And if you walk into a place where they need a mask, then you got one and it's fine and it's not that inconvenient. You're fine. You could be Ukrainian right now. Just be fine with your mask.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Look at me. Yellow, let it mellow. Yeah, if it's brown, flush it down. Yeah. Well, it's not a brown one, Scott. That's not, we're not studying medical misinformation on the... Well, they did start... You're getting in real Rogan territory.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Yeah, I don't want to go there. I get canceled. They did start testing wastewater for COVID, so maybe there will be a brown one. Oh, yeah, that's right. We talked... That was a whole subject last time, Your Honor, a couple times ago. Well, Bobby, it's always a pleasure, as my dad would say, on the frequent. And we're always glad to have you here.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Tell people where they can find all around science. why they should this week. You can find all-around science. I don't have to tell you where to find it. You're listening to a podcast. You know how to find podcast. But it's called All-Around Science. We just talked about...
Starting point is 01:32:57 Actually, this episode that came out yesterday, we talked about more about what we talked about on this show last week, which is the whole idea of how words and language can literally, cognitively, change the way you are able to think about things about colors, your ability
Starting point is 01:33:20 to see certain colors and stuff like that. We talked about that. And it was a great conversation. We talked about social justice and all sorts of stuff. Very nice. Yeah, it's a great show, you guys. Check it out.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Bobby doing great work over there, all around science, wherever you get podcasts. Bobby, I hope. Good to talk to you, Justin. Yeah. Yeah, brother. Good to see you, man. Always good to see you.
Starting point is 01:33:40 We'll see you soon on, you know, you'll be in a bit of the back. background, but, you know, the new A&TP season coming up in like a week. Looking forward to it. Is that like next week? Yeah, I think so. A week from yesterday. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I'm going to be on the road. Well, perfect. Perfect. No, that's some of your best work, Justin. You're on the middle of a thing. You're not buying any houses, are you? Yeah, we'll not be buying a house and moving out of a house and moving cross country, which was why I was very mean last season.
Starting point is 01:34:07 That was insane. I can't believe you pulled that off and didn't just say, hey, I need a buy and let someone step in. missing episode. Everybody else. All the other judges missing episodes. Not your old boy Jerbs. That's true. Taking every opportunity to take my frustrations out on poor contestants of the show. Contestants may have hated you, but the production staff loved you for it. That's right. You made harsh criticism. It's all content. We'll see you later, Bobby. All right. There goes, Bobby. Oh, I got rid of Justin. Shit. I didn't mean to do that. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Wrong guy. Kicked out the wrong guy. That was a goof. Hold on. Recall. There you were. Hello.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yeah. I got, you know what it was for serious? It's your name on there. And my muscle memory is when you hang up, when you hang up, you hang up on Justin's name because that's up on the jerbs. Yeah. Because he's there. See how they treat me?
Starting point is 01:35:11 And yet. See how they treat? treat me? Yeah, I know. Look, all I can do is think as DJ Collin. They don't want me to be on the show. So I got to be on the whole show. They hung up on me. Another time. They hung up another one. Another guess. It's good stuff. By the way, so before we go today, why don't you tell us again, speaking of all the things you're busy with, dog and pony show, productions, of course, World's Greatest Con, all this stuff. Coming up fresh and hot and new and slapping. So tell everybody where to get it. and what's going on? First and foremost, if you guys aren't aware, Dog and Pony Show Productions is my production company.
Starting point is 01:35:48 We've done a couple really, really cool things, including Raise the Dead, which I know a lot of you guys are aware of, which is my podcast, and then Brian Brushwood and I work on this podcast called The World's Greatest Con. It is, on its face, a thrilling retelling of some of the most audacious
Starting point is 01:36:10 and mind-bending scale. and cons in history, but in reality, it is an examination of why we fall for these kinds of things. What in our brain is triggered by these games and cons, because invariably, all of them are running along a lot of the same playbooks. They are there to exploit things that are inside of a brain. It's the reason why the tagline of the show is that cons don't fool us because we're stupid. They fool us because we're human. In this season, we take a look at the glitzy world
Starting point is 01:36:45 of television game shows. Our first episode is already out following the scandals that almost killed the entire industry, those around the fixing of the show 21. But I'm very proud of this season. I would love it if you guys would give it a chance.
Starting point is 01:37:02 The first season is all about World War II. If that ain't your scene, then these are five separate episodes. Not one long story. five separate stories all covering a different thing all complete stories i think you guys are going to really dig it head on over there uh world's greatest con wherever you find your podcast but specifically apple because i'm trying to pass cocaine and rhinestones on the on the chart that'd be amazing passing your favorite show that you listen to which is great right doesn't that feel
Starting point is 01:37:32 the best yeah that's pretty awesome i could see why that would be a goal and we can get we can get them we can get them there that's what that's what we do best everybody so pile there. And even if you don't use Apple stuff, find some way to get in there and do it. It all counts. Subscribe wherever you can get. Thank you to everybody who already has, by the way. This premiere launched bigger than
Starting point is 01:37:51 any in a 24-hour window than anything in the first season that shows growth. That's great because now we have advertisers. Yeah. Yeah. Keep the man happy. Yeah. Keep the man happy. Also, add free episodes, patreon.com. Oh, very good point. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Very, very nice. A quick reminder, folks at home, if you like this show and what's going on here, even on a week where we don't have, Brian, support us at our Patreon. Patreon.com slash TMS. If you haven't yet, get in there, you get bonus content every day, including today. If you're listening to this going, oh, wait, there's extra stuff with jury. Yeah, we talked at the top of the show. We'll have a little more at the bottom. And that comes to you every day on the feed if you're a patron at any level.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You can be in for a buck a month. And since we're such suckers here, we got cons. really by our stupidity when we set this thing up way back in 2014. So come take advantage of us and get in there. We'd love you. Patreon.com slash TMS. Thanks to everybody who already is. For everything else, it's frogpants.com slash TMS.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And send us your emails, love your feedback, the morning stream at gmail.com. All right, man. I think that's going to do it. I'm going to leave us with another song. And yeah, I'm going to just double dip today. It's the Aces again. Utah's own the Aces. I love these guys. I can't help it.
Starting point is 01:39:11 They have another song on that album Under My Influence called I Can Break Your Heart 2. It's a little sappy, but it does it for me. And there's something about, I don't know, it's got a good groove. I think you guys will like it. So check that out. Again, that's I Can Break Your Heart 2. Under My Influences the album, it's the Aces.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Justin, thanks for being here, man. Oh, man. It was a pleasure being back home here on TMS. Thank you to everybody. And I will be back. I'll be back some time. If you really, if you hope, fingers crossed hard enough,
Starting point is 01:39:44 maybe the old jerbs will be back again. And now I just disappear in a very crappy 70s crossfade like by an angel. You never know. Maybe we may see him in Vegas, we hope. I'm not sure. Oh, I hear a little boy. Oh, yeah, you will.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Yeah, you'll see me in Vegas. Hold on. We got a quick, we got a brief appearance by a two-year-old or three-year-old. Come here, buddy. You want to say hi to everybody? Say hi. Hi.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Say hi, can you say hi, Justin? What's up? Go back with Nana. Hold on. I think it's pretty red. We have the same haircut. I know, right? He has your hair.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That's pretty intense. Yeah, we have the same. He's got a good look. He's a fashionable kid. He's very, he's high fashion, low maintenance. Even his diapers are easy. Anyway, that's going to do it. Thanks everybody for being here.
Starting point is 01:40:31 We'll see you next time. Cut you off and you're acting different. Cut you off and you want commitment. Use caution every time that we're kissing. Use caution when I say I'm in saving. Can't take it but you show condition. Always making new terms and condition. We're hoping things they could be different.
Starting point is 01:41:07 But I'm done wishing All the games you play are boring If you're calling I'm ignoring Because you're just not as important As you think you might be Set it up to break me down You don't want me
Starting point is 01:41:26 Then you want me Uh-oh But you can have your kick you need it too My life isn't always about you I can't break your heart too You know they say that love is blind But I don't really think that applies It's not love between you and I
Starting point is 01:41:55 More like ever I All the games you play are boring If you're calling I'm ignoring Because you're just not as important as you think you might be set it up to break me down you don't want me then you want me
Starting point is 01:42:17 but you can have your kick and need it too my life isn't always about you I can't break your heart too that you were everything I want everything I needed, wondering if there's something that I could have said. Because I just can't shake this feeling, staring at the ceiling, playing like a movie back inside my head. Now, no, never mind.
Starting point is 01:43:07 And I never know No I never know Set it up To break me down You don't want me then you want me now But you can have your kick you need it too My life isn't always about you
Starting point is 01:43:31 I can break your heart too Set it up to break me down You don't want me then you want me I'm going to me now But you can have your kick and eat it too My life isn't always about you I can't break your heart to I can't break your heart too
Starting point is 01:44:00 I can't break your heart too This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Frog Pants Network. Get more shows like this at frogpants.com. Methinks, you care little for your sister when I think on the time you have taken to return here. Yeah. Hmm.

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