The Morning Stream - TMS 2262: Down Goes the Boogery One

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

I like my Cabbage Al Dente. How's that vagina treating you? Just get a tube and rub it the old fashioned way. Branch Davidian. You Know from The Office. I Drink Your Oyster Snot! Leftover Blue Light Special Smell. Flummoxed by the Olde Ways. First Find a Child. All the Books of Face. Weird Space Between Cooked and Mushy. Winders or Swetch. Mellow Neighbor Dave. The Parable of the Ball of Yarn. Vowell Assassination with Amy. Looking Up Fern's Nipple with Wendi, and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Coming up on TMS, I like my cabbage aldente. How's that vagina treating you? Just get a tube and rub it the old-fashioned way. Branch Divideon, you know, from the office. I drink your oyster snot. Leftover blue light's special smell. Flummoxed by the old ways. First, find a child.

All the books of face. Rid space between cooked and mushy. Winders or sweatsh? Mellow neighbor Dave. The parable of the ball of yarn. Vowal assassination with Amy. Looking up Fern's nils. with Wendy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream.

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I'm Scott Johnson. That's Brian Abbott. Happy, what is it? St. Patrick's Day, right? It was like, yeah, I thought for a second you were going to, like, make some, you know, something up. Like Susan St. Patrick's Day or something like that, right? No, just the good old-fashioned Irish doing Irish things. Yeah.

Drinking themselves onto the table, doing whatever they do, I guess. Yeah, I got up this morning, showered, went to the closet, said, well, what am I going to wear today? Oh, there's only one thing I could possibly wear today, and it's my Ireland shirt, which has little shamrocks on it. Yeah, it's for the Irish team there. I got very, very few green things, so I wore this Mario card shirt. I know, I do too, yeah. So on here we got Mario, and his brother is green, so it's good enough for me. Oh, is that, is that, so it's just a little tiny Luigi.

G on there. He's not even on there. It's not even on there. It's just like, it's just Mario on a cart. And his brother happens to wear green clothes is as close as I could get. Gotcha. So are you, are you, uh, are you worried about getting pinched? I mean, that's the thing. This is the day of the pinchings. No, it makes you feel alive when you get pinched. I'm not worried. Bring it on, I say. That's what I say. Claire, be careful out there. We understand they shut all your streets down. Yeah, that's probably for the best. Yeah. But I, you know, I thought about having lucky charms.

I passed. I'm not really into milk these days. What else? There's no other way to really celebrate it here. Oh, Kim might make some, the corned beef stuff. Yeah, we did that last night. The corned beef and cabbage in the instant pot. Oh, so good.

it and the the cabbage wasn't all like like flimsy and wilty it kind of felt like it was a little bit blanched like it was still had a little bit of a tooth to it a little crispness to it yeah oh it's great that's what you want you want that that weird that weird uh space between firm and mushy there's a there's a perfect place for it but it's uncooked between uncooked and uh overcooked yeah yeah that is exactly right well that's good i oh that sounds really good i mean we're probably going to do that tonight. It's been a little busy around here. We've had family in town all week. We've got some more happening next week. It's just a little nutty. But I will say this. Good for the soul is time spent, well spent with a nephew. And I just wanted to share this real

quick. So my nephew, Peter, the youngest of my sister's kids, is a very interesting kid. He is one of the most unique kids I've ever met in personality. He's got crazy long hair. He's got more energy than any kid I've ever seen. He's really smart, like just a crazy cool kid. And they were here last night. And I'm like, hey dude, you want to play some video games? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because his brothers were off at the jazz game, uh, getting, or actually they beat the Bulls last night. And all I would say to that was, where were you in 97? What was going on there? That's because Michael Jordan was there. Anyway, exactly. Yeah, that's totally. That's have a big difference.

I hold a, I still, I still hold a very dark grudge about those, those years. But anyways, so he wanted to start with something old. So we played joust on the, on the, on the ever, you're not evercade. What's it called? The little short arcadeade. Whatever that's called, yeah. Yeah. We played that for a while and he, and he seemed flummoxed by the old ways, you know.

It seemed like a really, a really ancient artifact to him, which I guess it is. Sure. Wow, but he was like into one to do some retro stuff. That's awesome. Yeah, he was into that. So we played that a little bit. Then we played Rampage. He could not make heads or tails of Rampage.

Just could not figure it out. So then we thought, you know what? That's like the easiest game, right? Because it's just like climb buildings, destroy buildings, eat people, stomp on cars. Exactly. So then we thought, why don't we move to a modern console? Let's go over to the Series X over here and see what we got. So we fired up this game called, that I really like, called Bombslinger.

It was a little discovery I made while we were doing our coverage of a Bomberman. And it's very similar to that, except it's set in the Old West. It's got this cool pixel-y style. You're this grungy old cowboy who's an expert in bombs. But basically it's Bomber Man, just kind of a reimagining a bomber man by this small indie team. It's a very good game and super cheap. It's like $10 and you can get it anywhere. So we fired that up and proceeded to have the most wacky,

hour and a half of game time, I've had in a very long time. I recommend taking, finding some 10, 11-year-old nephew. Go to the grocery store, the mall, wherever. Fight a child. Yeah, preferably when you're related to, if you can swing it. Okay? That'd be the best. Otherwise, people kind of frown on this. But anyway, he, it was so much fun and so much laughter. And he was like, jumping. I don't know how they have a couch at their house. That's got to be. destroyed by now. We have to ask Wendy about that, because he just is freaking out, so excited. It was so much fun. I needed this so bad. Oh, good. Because you're just, when you game with adults all the time, you forget what

it's like to have just like this wide-eyed 10-year-old, like, thing. And he didn't want to stop. And I'm like, well, your mom's coming, bud, you got to go. And it was like, you know, kind of getting late. It was like 10 o'clock and late for him anyway. And, you know, you had to get out of here. But I'd recommend it. It was great. Really good time.

Oh, that sounds awesome. Well, cool. It was really fun. Also, that game is great, and people should check it out. It's called Bombslinger. Bombslinger. I like it. Yeah. And there's a whole single player mode where you're kind of like this pissed off dude,

getting revenge for the gang that killed your wife. So you go back to your old dirty cowboy ways where you used to put bombs everywhere. It's actually pretty. It is available on the Switch. Yeah, it's on Steam, of course. Is it what kind of platform compatibility? Winders. So you got Winders or Switch?

is your choice. Well, Xbox, PS3 as well. Oh, PSA, PS3. Xbox 1. Oh, it says Macintosh. So the Macintosh version

must not be accessible via steam. It might not be. I wouldn't, maybe steam. Yes, ma'am. What do you need? Oh, you came to pinch me?

Carter pinch me. Oh, thank you, Carter. Gosh, dang it. Are you wearing green? She was in the chat room and somebody suggested. She's top to bottom green right here. Yeah, well, she's smart.

The rest of, you know. My family takes this stuff seriously, and they're all, they all think you're some kind of hero in the chat. Yeah, I know they did. They're a real forceful bunch, those guys. Exactly. Anyway, hey, Brian, what's going on today? You do anything fun? Anything cool?

Well, so as I mentioned, last night we did our corn, beef, and cabbage. We were going to do it tonight, but I decided I still have, what, let me think here, I've done about 10 rides, about nine rides. I guess I still have about 16 to do to get my 25 ride quota in before Sunday for Lyft. Yeah. And really, I mean, what better night to drive than on St. Patrick's night, right? So, like, you've got all these, I'm going up to Boulder, for sure. And going to just basically take college students to drown nights, wherever they tend to be. Oh, they call them drown nights?

What's that? Drown nights. Well, that's what we used to call them when I was in college. it's like just drown yourself in beer is what the terminology was for. I gotcha. I assume the college kids today or this would be a big day for them, right? This is probably a big day for them, especially this time because last year lockdowns, I don't think, I think Boulder, the mall was kind of shut down with as far as stuff like that.

And then we were just getting into COVID the year before. So everyone was kind of on high alert and saying, hey, statibars, don't, don't. group in masses, wear masks, all that sort of thing. So I think these kids are kind of ready to cut loose. So I'm doing the take them to the bars times, not the pick them up from the bars times. Unless they start drinking at like three in the afternoon and want to go home at six. Yeah, yeah. I mean, unless they're literally Irish people and that stereotype is true, then you're probably okay.

But do you think there's any percentage chance somebody yacks in your car? Like, it definitely goes up, right? There's always a percentage. I mean, there's always a chance, Scott. It just feels like percentage-wise, it's higher tonight than it would be normally, I think. It's definitely higher tonight, and I think that that is why I'm stopping early. Yeah, there's still a chance that somebody's going to go drinking all day and want to come home at 4 o'clock in the afternoon and Ralph all over the back seat.

But I've got Scotch Guard. I've got the seats sprayed down. And, you know, I've got, even went and picked up those little, Like, they're like little barf bags, but you can kind of put them over. They have a ring, a plastic ring. Oh, yeah. Put them over as opposed to like holding a paper barf sack. Yeah, yeah.

I saw those on some, where did I? The last flight I took, I think, had the rings. Yes. Yeah. That's a good way to do it. That's actually where I stole them from is from planes. Right. I think that was the flight where the Chinese student group, one of them started yakking in the

middle of the flight. Oh, no, no, no, that was my Mexico flight. Never mind. But it seems like they had a ring one. and that's good you want to ring one get the ring one yeah you get that closure you get uh like you get the the seal as much of a seal as you can possibly get yeah everyone needs closure i say yeah there's no uh fortunately there's no parades or anything up in boulder so it's still technically a school day so for the most part the students are going to be still going to class

and stuff and uh nice we'll see we'll see what it's like but i'm hoping for some good stories for next week since we're doing playday tomorrow i'm going to save my stories even if even if there are good stories. I'm not, I'm not going to waste them during play date. I'm going to make sure that they're part of the show on. Oh, yeah. Don't spill that popcorn in that lobby. We don't want that. Do you, so normally, let me ask you this. Normally, if you weren't driving tonight, this would be, what, a night over at crazy neighbors while you guys watch Dave go crazy? Things, things have really mellowed out over there. Like, I don't know if they were visited by three ghosts in the middle of the night at some point and said, you must stop your wild ways and quit.

you're drinking. Yeah. Because they have been a little bah humbug about the party nights and stuff lately. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on with the crazy neighbors. I will say this, though. We went to the Mammoth game this last Friday night. And they, it was really just a crazy neighbor and me.

And we did kind of go little nuts downtown. We put away a whole, you know, maybe cover your Scott. We put away a ton of oysters. even had one. Oh, dude, this one was a butte. This one had, it was an oyster covered with two kinds of Tobico and Salmon Row. So like three kinds of fish eggs, a raw quail egg, and scooped out innards of a sea urchin. That sounds horrendous.

It was like a party in my mouth, because it's all one bite. You can't nibble on that. You basically just have to say the whole thing's happening all at once. Is it a raw booggery one or a cooked one? Oh, no, everything was uncooked. It was a raw booggery one. Okay. So down goes the boogery one.

Down goes the booger covered with more slimy stuff and a slimy thing on top of that. It was a freaking delicious. Let me ask this. If it's just a single shell or is it like a whole play of them? No, no, no. That was just a single shell. That was kind of a little bit of a splurge. That was a $13 one-bite oyster with all that stuff on that.

That was my next question. I just wonder what that goes for. It must be a real specialty one-off thing. $13 called the honeymoon oyster. And, you know. The honeymoon oyster? It's called the honeymoon oyster. It's good like their preparation is called the honeymoon oyster.

I put a photo of it up on Twitter and it's just gorgeous. But then we had some muscles. Those were cooked, obviously. and some some octopus and some what was it crab

freshwater crab but like steamed crab and stuff I'm just taking look at your picture I didn't see it oh look at that thing wow

wow all right well I won't deny it looks good it's a beautiful piece of food even if you don't like any of the ingredients that make it

it is a beautiful Yeah, it's not ugly, I can't get it to load right. It's not ugly cuisine. No, but that, I'll say this, that quail egg on top looks angry because of the chive placement. Yeah, look at that. He's like, brr! What is it? Oh, I'm on top another bugger again.

Exactly, yes. Yeah, they're not happy about it. I was comfortable in my shell. Why'd you have to crack me open? So they always serve it in ice. I guess I knew that because I've had oysters, but I forgot. It's been so long. So we did that and then went to the Mammoth game, but we did, you know, there was a lot of drinking.

And I'm worried about this weekend because tomorrow night there's another Mammoth game. And his nephew and I guess it would be brother-in-law and nephew are in town. No, I take that back. Nephew and brother are in town. And he's going to want to like really rip it up with them before the game. So we got extra tickets for the game tomorrow night. he's going to want to tear up the town and really show them, oh, this is how we do it, Denver style. That's right.

So that's why things have calmed down over there. He's just, he's saving up. He's saving up, yeah. Basically it is. It is like the, let's bottle everything up so you can just explode. That's fantastic. All right. Well, I hope they're good and that she still likes to go out rocking.

I'm really glad we're not recording film Saturday morning because I'm just worried that. Oh, yeah, you'll be pretty bent out of shape. possibly, possibly. Whatever, I think you hold your liquor pretty well. It's been my experience. I do. I know when to stop. I mean, there's even part of me that's saying,

you know, maybe I'll be designated driver tonight so we can save money on an Uber. I know that won't go over very well. Sure. I'll get the whole, like, everything, the whole night will be, oh, hey, Brian, how's that vagina treat you? You thirsty over there? Diet Coke, you all right?

Yeah. That is the vagina treating. That is where he goes. That's absolutely where he goes. Freaking Dave, man. Yes. Well, uh, speaking of nothing like that, uh, let's, speaking of, of something that's completely unrelated to that.

Let's do this. Yes. Oh, look who it is returning after a, I hope, a restful and fun vacation. It's Red Fraggle herself, Amy Robinson. Hello, how are you? Hello, how are you guys doing? Good. Good, good, good. Are you all recovered and well and everything's fine? I mean, you know, recovered as much as you can be from a fun vacation. You're probably a little pooped.

Oh, my gosh. I, so I was saying in Discord earlier, I am so ready for TMS Vegas now because I have like nerd culture withdrawal. Oh. Because like it's, it was so much fun. I am, I am paying for it a good bit because if you've ever, you've seen, Brian has met me and like some people. have seen pictures of me and whatnot. I am as pasty as you get. Like, I'm all the way on the white side of white. When you go out in the sunlight, you actually can hear you sizzle. Exactly.

I'm in the Mayo Mafia. And so like I did not. And I blame my sunscreen, honestly, because I put, I put different stuff on my face. And I did not get burned on my face. Oh, God. I think the stuff that I used like on my body was just crappy. Was it the spray stuff? Yes, and I will not make that mistake again.

I know, you've got to go thicker with the sunscreen spray than you think you need to, and then you're supposed to rub it in, which is like, great. Then why am I getting the spray stuff if I still have to rub it in? Right, exactly, just get a damn tube and do it the old-fashioned way. I agree. That stuff never works for me. The spray is zero quality for me. You know what I wish that they had?

You know how, like, people, I have never done this, but you know how when people go, for like a spray tan or whatever. Yes. I was just about to say this. You just like walk into like a shower stall and there's sprays everywhere and you just hold out your arms and get painted with it. A little cover thing over your eyes and mouth and stuff or just it doesn't go that high. Yeah, right. Like just repurpose some of these old metal detectors from TSA.

Whenever they retire a metal detector, just install some little spray mounted SPF60 in there. and just have you walk through it. I want to be dipped in a vat, like a big vat, and you just drop me down, you hold my arms with straps, just put me in there naked and dip me in there and then pull me out with all that white goop on, and then I'm ready for Mexico again. Let's go. You like to stand like Josh Brolin, pants off, dance off kind of thing. Oh, yeah, hell yeah.

Look, when in Mexico, we all have our own dance to make, if you know what I'm saying. Anyway. That reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons. where they go to the beach and like Marge just like cakes Maggie she's like completely covered in it and Lisa says I think she needs a diaper change and Marge goes well it ain't happening today that's a good one I haven't seen that episode in a long time but that's an excellent Marge impersonation yeah that was really good geez that's like the one line you know how you have like one line that leads you into doing an impression that's my Marge Simpson line if I do that

it's pretty good. It's like Julie Kavner herself is on the show with us today. But I know for a fact, it's not. It's Amy because she is part of the read this segment and brought something to read. Do you want me to play this clip first? Do you want to explain it? How do you want to do this here today? Yeah, sure. So I'll give you a little bit of intro. So this was an audio book that we were actually listening to on our way down because we drove. We drove because we're in Atlanta. So it's like right on the cusp of where it's worth it to fly, you know. So we drove down to Fort Lauderdale for our cruise, and so we listened to an audio book on the way, and this was it. Oh, very nice. All right.

Let's play a piece of that. I consider asking the Connecticut couple if they had ever run into Jack Parr, who I heard. I love her. All right. Sorry, I'll keep going. I love her, though. I'm so excited that it's who it is. Heard had retired near where they live, but I looked like I was born after Parr quit hosting the Tonight Show because I was.

And so I'd have to explain how much I like watching tapes of old programs. at the Museum of Television and Radio, and I don't want to get too personal. It seems that all three of them attended a Boston Pops concert at Tanglewood the previous evening, and they chat about the conductor. This, I think, is my inn. I too enjoyed being entertained.

Relieved to have something, anything, to say, I'd pipe up. I went to the Berkshire Theatre Festival last night. Oh, did you see Peter Pan? The woman asked. No, I say. Assassins! What's that? Wonders the Englishman. To make up for the fact that I've been clamped up and moping, I speak too fast, merrily chirping.

It's a Stephen Sondheim musical in which a bunch of presidential assassins and would-be assassins sing songs about how much better their lives would be if they could gun down a president. Oh, remarks Mr. Connecticut. How was it? Oh my God, I gush. Even though the actors were mostly college kids, I thought it was great. The orange-haired guy who played the man who wanted to fly a plane into Nicky, Nixon was hilarious. And I found myself strangely smitten with John Wilkes' booth. Every time he looked in my direction, I could feel myself blush. Apparently, talking about going to the Museum of Television and Radio is too personal,

but I seem to have no problem revealing my crush on the man who murdered Lincoln. All right. So that's Sarah Val, right? I love her. It is Sarah Val, yes. And there are some people in the chat room who have spotted, yes, she was from the Incredibles, but she's, in fact, Violet Incredible. She is.

Oh, right. You know what's funny is she, she plays, so her name in the show is Violet Parr, and she was just talking about Jack Parr, which is pretty funny. I like that. That's cool. No, she's great. I just love her voice. My introduction to her was like some probably This American Life episodes or something,

because she did a ton of that for a while. And I think she still does a bunch of that. But yeah, most people know her, you know, from that voice on The Incredibles, Incredibles, too. Pretty cool. So what's the book? What's she doing? I assume this is some kind of autobiographical thing or something. Sort of.

So this book is called Assassination Vacation. And it is kind of about her little adventures to go visit historical places that are significant to presidential assassins. And it is, it's, it's as bizarre as it sounds, but it's, it's got just like a perfect mixture of kind of her being autobiographical about how kind of quirky and weird she is. But also like there's a fair amount of history in there and like interesting fun facts about like there's a whole big section about John Wilkes Booth and like the doctor who treated him and stuff and whether he was in on it or not. and, you know, all kinds of amazing history stuff. So it's a really, really good sort of soft historical book, I guess you would say, because it's like there's just enough quirkiness in there to where it doesn't feel like you're listening to a history lecture.

Sure. But, yeah, it's really cool. I picked it because it was like, oh, I went on vacation. So I'll pick this book that has the word vacation in it. Yeah, why not? No, she's great. I wish I could remember the name of the segment. there's a really, really awesome, one of my favorite segments on This American Life ever that she produced and did. It may have been a whole episode.

I cannot remember much about it other than I loved it. And I'd love to get my hands on it again. And I'll bet Captain Kipper or somebody in our chat will track down that episode for me because, man, that was good stuff. And when she got the job for The Incredibles, I was so stoked because I thought, yeah, she's got this weird voice that almost doesn't belong to her. It's like somebody else's voice. and yet that sister. Yeah, like a little kid. Yeah, like a younger kid's voice, for sure.

She's, yeah, she's perfect for that, for the Violet character because she sounds like a, you know, sort of angsty, awkward teen, you know. Yeah, even now, and she's freaking me and Brian's age, which blows my mind. She was born in Muskegee, Oklahoma. So I'm looking at the list, like, it's not just her narrating, Catherine Keener, Stephen King, Conan O'Brien, John Stewart. Also doing narration in this thing? Bradbird also.

Yeah, it's great. She has little excerpts in there where she has guest voices come in and read other spots. And so like if there's letters from historical figures that are men, they'll be read by, you know, a male voice actor and stuff like that. And it really, it really breaks it up really well. I mean, it's a good read also just to read it on paper. but I found the audiobook particularly engaging and fun. Yeah. It was more, I don't know, it listened more like a podcast than it did a novel, you know.

So, yeah, I loved it. I thought it was great and it's good fun. And yeah, it was definitely a big cast of characters in there for an audiobook. So she was featured prominently in a 2002 documentary about the alternative rock band, they might be giants entitled Gigantic, A Tale of Trial. two johns you ever see that brian i haven't seen that but it but i believe it because there's uh she is god she does something on one of their bonus tracks um does she sing or something on uh oh their um it could be i could hear the guitar or something i don't know there's there's some

sarah vowel there's some other sarah vowel uh tmbg connection and uh um looking i'm looking in my library to see if i've actually got that track that she's got some kind of connection if she's super into that if she's super all over that documentary she must have some bigger connection that I know of that's pretty cool I like this thing about her

personal life says Val is an atheist although describes herself as culturally Christian I think that's interesting I think that probably applies to a lot of people who may find themselves in atheist territory these days but they you know they grew up in a different thing and so they got

the traditions you know you put up You get your Christmas tree and your stocking and all that stuff, which has about as much to do with Jesus as, you know, a ball of yarn. Yeah. Oh, the Jesus ball of yarn. Yeah, my favorite stories in the Bible were when Jesus had that ball of yarn and, you know, did stuff with it. Well, that's cool. Anyway, great, I will check this out.

For some reason, this is older this book, right? This isn't brand new. Yeah, no, this is not new. This has been out for quite a while. In fact, my husband has been buggy me to read this book for many years. Something really familiar, like I've heard it. And I don't know where I've heard it because I know I don't have the book. But I've heard her say these things before.

The stuff about Jack Parr and the crush on John Wilkes Booth, that stuff is, I know I've heard this. So maybe she may have done essay. That might be what I'm thinking of. She may have taken parts of her book. Yeah, and done it on this American life and like essayed it out on one of those shows or something. That might have been what happened. I don't know. Oh, she has Cherokee heritage.

That's cool. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. She did a thing, I guess, where she retraced her, her ancestral steps. Yeah, from, and just did a big travel, like, documentary-style radio thing. I don't know. I think she's awesome.

Something about her is just really unique and interesting. Well, there you go. Do check it out. Where did you get this one again? I guess it's just audibles. Where you got it? Yeah, I got it from audits. but yeah, it's available all over the place.

I'll post some links in the Discord and, you know, and the Facebook group and stuff so people can find it. If they are so inclined to do something other than Audible. Very, very nice. Oh, you know what else I saw it? It was very good. 2005, Assume the Position with Mr. Wohl. It's an HBO special.

She narrates it. Where is it? Let's see if I can find it. It's about the actor Robert World. Wool and he's a comedian dude and it's like a history of comedy or something it's really

interesting. Some politics in there. Isn't he the guy? Doesn't he play like the reporter guy in the old Batman? The first Batman movie. Yeah. That's the guy. That's totally him. That's him. Okay. Yeah. He's still around too. He's doing stuff. Anyway, well there you go. Hey, Amy

that was awesome. Tell people people where they can find you and follow more of your cool recommendations. Thank you. Yeah. So I'm Red Fraggle 3 on Twitter and and on TikTok and Instagram I think is Amy Robinson Vio, but I I'm slack so I never post over there anyway. But yeah, and I'm in the I'm in all the TMS Discord chats and and the Frog Pants Facebook books and are you know Facebook books of face. Books of face. Yep, all the books of face. I can speak. So, yeah, all right. Good, go catch her.

And then don't forget, she'll be in Vegas. You meet her if you're coming. Come see her. Oh, I have a question for you, Brian, before spring. Yeah, ask away. About roughly, what is our head count for Vegas? I think we're at about 60, 50 or 60 people. And that's based on how many people live there and are staying in places that are not the plaza,

as well as how many plaza rooms have been booked. Yeah. So that's kind of a really rough, rough estimate. Yeah. So why are you thinking about bringing oysters for all 60 people or what's your plan? Oh, God. No, I have to, I'm team Scott on this. That is like a ball of snot.

I cannot do the oyster thing. I mean, more power to you, you know, I'm not going to yuck you're yum, but I don't want it. I don't either. Don't need that yum in my life. All right. Have a good one, Amy. We'll see you next time. All right.

There we go. More for me. That's the way I look at. get it. No, no, that's the right attitude to have. You get all the oysters. Congratulations. Exactly. All right. I'll get the mercury poisoning.

It's all mine. Oh, were they known for that? I didn't know that. Is that a thing? Well, I think all seafood has the potential of that. That's true, right? Isn't it because... Why is that? Is it because we pollute the water they live in and then we get the mercury? Is that the deal? Or is it because... I think so. Yeah.

All right. I feel like I know nothing about mercury poisoning in the seafood. I know. I know. I know very little about it, too. I know that it's the big drawback to eating lots of seafood is the potential for mercury poisoning. All right. Well, I am not going to eat that much. I can promise you that. You can have whatever I don't eat, Brian.

It's fine. Perfect. I'll take your share. Take my share. I'll drink your oyster snout. Take your booger shake and drink it. All right, here we go. Oh, look at this.

Time for the news. And brought to you by. Brought you by Coverville. Today we're going to be celebrating the 50th. birthday of Mark Hoppice. What's his age again? 50. What's his age again? 50. Hello there. Yeah, we're going to be, uh, yeah. You got more? How many of those could I fit in here? Let's see. Yeah, anything else you got? We can fit it in. We can get it. Uh, so that'll be, of course, a bunch of Blink 182 covers as well as a cover that he and Tom Delange did, um, uh, for another project that

people might not know about. So, Blink 182, which is, what is the source of that number? Did we ever, like, do they ever say what it was from? It's been like we talked about it. I heard of it was come up on this show before, but I don't remember what we came up with or what it was. Like, the rumor is that it's a number of F-bombs in reservoir dogs or in Scarface or something like that.

I don't know if there's something, but, yeah. Weird. What's the blink part? The blink is, who knows? Who knows what that is? How many times? Maybe it's how many times Tony blinks in Scarface? Oh, there you go.

Yeah, yeah. Say hello to my, because every time he shot the gun, he blinked a lot when you did that. BioCow says there was already a band called blink, so they just added a random number. And 182 was the random number they had. Really? Really. I really bummed.

That feels like what a waste of potential, like, cool story behind your band name. Well, maybe it's actually, no, it's not cooler. Ryan's right. it's a waste of a potential band name. Exactly. Have some sort of like, oh, yeah, we chose 182 because it's the number of blah, blah, blah,

is in the blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But, no, it's like, we liked 182, so we just did this random number we ping. We did that. Hello there. Hello there. Exactly.

All right. Let's do this here, yeah. Can't believe you. That's a 1 p.m. Mountaintime, Twitch.tv. Oh, yeah. Good idea. Get there. All right.

Grand Forks pastor baffled. As to who put a giant, Kmark K on his front lawn. How does he know it's a Kmart K? Is it like the exact Kmart logo K? Oh, yeah. It is. It is.

You got to see this thing. It's literally a Kmart with a word Kmart. I was thinking it was like they did something to the grass in the shape of a K. And he just assumed it was Kmart. No, it is like, it is the K from a Kmart sign. I mean, it's a Kmart sign with the word mart in the K. That guy looks like, if you took his hat off and he was bald,

he looks like someone took me and you and combined us he's got the he's got the goatee like you do but it's the color of my beard there's something about that guy like you used to wear the yeah it's an amalgam of us i don't like it's weird that's really funny pastor pastor uh paul night paul night uh front yard display uh outside his home hope church pastor paul night is a little bit unconventional uh as well as involuntary He placed a massive Kmart sign on his front lawn. It's believed to be from the former Kmart building from the South Washington Street in Grand Forks,

which is being redeveloped. It's true of all Kmart's, right? They're all getting wiped out. There's one up near us that has half of it is now occupied by some kind of home goods thing. Not home goods, the brand, but like something like that where it's like a lot of that sort of stuff. And then the other half is still empty

and probably end up being like a Halloween store or something around Halloween. But it amazes me that that huge space in this perfect place is not just scooped up by somebody already. Like, why is it not a Target or a freaking Walmart or something else? Do they not like buying those? They'd rather build their own? I don't know.

They're usually like in such, you know, they're in really good locations, good retail locations. They're big, empty buildings that you could put a lot of stuff in. I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. There's a bad Kmart smell, like a leftover blue light special smell. Yeah, everything smells like blue lights and poor customer. I don't like a Kmart. Kmart's are gross.

No. Even as a kid, I felt like that place was, something was wrong there. I don't know what to, I don't know. It's not like the Overlook Hotel. I don't mean like that, but like, you know, like something was weird at a Kmart that I didn't feel in other stores. Like when I was growing up, we had Kmart, we had a place called Skaggs. Oh, yeah, I remember Skaggs. Yeah, those became, oh, it became something with a much.

more boring name like something drug rexalt not rexel drugs that was a separate thing but it was something like shop coat what was it you're right they did chant they got yeah they changed the camera what they became uh skag store let's see yeah yeah see if you can find it scrags yeah and then of course you a target right yeah yeah yeah oh here we go um oh pay less drugs pay less drugs that's it yeah okay and then which is not to be confused with pay less shoes which uh you know you'd think that somebody would have had an issue with that using that you'd think that's along this uh these guys started in 1915 what happened here skaggs did yeah i guess they got oh okay and i oh wow okay so 1915 by 1926 they'd grown to 673 stores that's a big deal yeah oh and then the pay less thing and let's see in 32

The great payless crash of 32. 1932. Okay, here it is. 1977, Skaggs Company's Inc. had amicably dissolved a partnership, started in 1969 with the Albertson's supermarket chain, which pioneered the first combination food, drug, and stores named Skaggs Albertsons. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Because it was always, it was.

It was like, it was a half Albertsons, half Skaggs or half pay less drugs. and then they just, I guess, absorbed it. Yeah, now they're, now everything has a, so they kind of did pioneer the idea of a drugstore inside of your bigger department store, but now they're all just tiny little, you know, sections of the store. Yeah. Which I hate going into.

I hate those places. Anyway, moving on. Oh, yeah, the point is this guy got a giant K in his yard, and he just doesn't know who did it. He swung by his home after church. No, after somewhere Wednesday morning, it said he swung by his home. And then, let's see, people have been coming from the south or south of his home to take selfies in front of it.

I would be. I'd totally do that. He has no clue who put it there, but says he suspects it was done by someone at church. He says, I don't know who to call, because I don't know who put it up, says Pastor Knight. So I'm kind of making a general announcement. I don't know why he's got this voice. The people...

You look at it if that's his voice. People responsible for this, you're welcome to remove it any time. My wife hopes it's gone by June, I think, he says. Good luck, dude. I'd keep it. I'd keep it. I think it's, I would love a big dumb cave.

You'd move it out of the front yard, though, right? I mean, like, you'd, you know, you fix it up because there's a really bad break in it. But, yeah, I would keep it. I would turn it into some sort of, like, light up coffee table kind of thing. Oh, that's a great idea. Like, you know, install some real lights in there, fix the top so it's not broken. And then you, you know, you sit there, you put your feet up on it, play your video games, your drink sits on it, doesn't, doesn't leave a ring because it's a plastic sign. Oh, yeah.

And the chat's right, my HOA would destroy me. They wouldn't let me do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why you really couldn't have it outside the house. It would have to be inside somewhere. You would. Other thing, too, is I think the reason he says June, because some people seem to wonder why he would say gone by June.

I think it's because there's snow-tale June where he lives. He's up in the, like, northern Washington. It's snow all the time up there. Either that or he's just saying that, like, well, hope it's gone by June. Like a little jokey-joke-joke-kind of thing. Yeah, who knows? I want to go to church with that guy. somebody put it like an Appleby sign on his front door next or you know let's go full retail on this

sure I like that it's probably some friend of his you know some joky yeah but it's funny that he immediately suspects somebody in his church yeah that's the first place he goes I don't have any proof but I think it's somebody in my church yeah well that K's worth more points if you put it up next to a double letter and then see if you can't create a double worded out of I've been playing scrabble go on the mind there I got a little bit of scrabble go on the You ruined me there. Although, that game runs too many ads. It pisses me off.

It's way too many ads. And the ads are so asinine. There's this one that keeps coming up that I'm sure you've seen a billion times with the three people in what looks like a porn airplane set. Yep. That are, he's slamming his briefcase down and they're doing all sorts of weird things like making the woman's head get big when she talks. Yeah. I don't, I hate it. I don't want to see him anymore.

I hate them. No. I'm never going to play that game. I'm never going to download whatever that is. There's the other one where it's a lady and her baby in a freezing hut or something. Oh, God, yes. Put clothes on her. It's like, forget it.

So I did find this hack. It's not really a hack. But as soon as I, you know, I submit my move and I can tell an ad starting. Yeah. I flip up and close app, open app again. It doesn't run the ad. Oh, that's brilliant. Well done.

And it takes less time to do that shutdown, reopen than it does for an ad. Yeah. So do that. Good, I'm totally doing that. Well done. Well done, sir. Good discovery. Quit and restart that game, yo. And then the other thing is you can pay the $7.50 a month to have all that stuff removed. But I ain't doing that. I ain't subscribing. Are you kidding? No, are you kidding me? No way. Well, I did for the seven free days and I'm canceling. Well, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. But guess what? Still getting ads. Did the seven day trial. Still getting ads. Still getting ads. It bums me out because I think the app is actually like really great,

like really well done and tons of options and game modes and single player stuff and multiplayer ideas. There's almost too much. Like almost too many like, oh, now you've unlocked Scrabble Pinkled Ink where you can use letters to build a sandcastle and live in it with your family. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. Too many. Too many game modes. Too many game modes.

Have, hey, guys. Larry David. Maybe you've got too much variety in you gave. Give me just, give me scrabble. Maybe a little less. I don't know. That's not him. That's a bad voice.

Here's a story. Mike Tyson, remember his deal? He was whole, boxer man, been in a couple of movies, all that stuff. Been in a couple,

at least one hangover, maybe two. Yeah, I think two at least, I think. Yeah. Because he sings one night in Bangkok in the second one.

Oh, my Lord. But I don't know if he appears in the first one. I love that that's even a thing. although that second one is not supposed I've never seen any of those movies Never seen any of them Yeah I just haven't had an opportunity Just never got around to it

You know what? They're worth saying I mean I'd say It's a little bit like the Ocean's 11 thing The first one's good The third one's good But the second one They kind of veer off track a little bit

And and go to a different country Just like the Ocean's 11 series That's how you basically Everyone says what you say and that two is not great, but I, you know, one and three, I could, I could make room for those. You should least see, yeah, you should least see one. It's kind of a, you know, it's a good Bradley Cooper thing. It's a good, oh, why am I blanking on his name from the office?

Hank Azaria, Phil Harmon. No, no, from the office. Branch Davidian, no. Wow. Yeah, that's exactly right. Ed Helms, Ed Helms, that Helms, thank you, Ed Helms. Ranch Divideon Wow

That's a weird place to go That is a weird one I don't know where that came from Waco, Texas I haven't paid attention to that story In a long time I watched the TV movie Like four years ago

But I don't know why that popped into my head Oh yeah And Zach Gallifanakis of course Yeah I mean there's some great There's some great Vegas in that movie So you know Maybe watch it in the next month

There's a little prep for our Viva TMS Vegas. Make sure you go buy your tickets now, people. Even if you've got your hotel, you think you've done everything you need to do. No, go to VivaTMSVegas.com and buy your ticket swag combo so that you can actually get into the things like the ballroom board game event and the pinball competition and the other things.

All the things that are happening, exactly. You've got to go do all that. And if you're somebody at home going, well, I can't come. How can I help? You can buy a swag-only package as well. and shaves a little money off, too. So if you're not going, it's not as expensive. And it's not expensive anyway.

It's super freaking cheap. It's not expensive. You know what the cheapest thing you're going to get in Vegas? This. This is the cheapest thing you're going to get in Vegas. So get out there and get it done. I'm glad you brought that up. Anyway, Mike Tyson, speaking of making a little money.

Oh, yeah. That's right. Mike Tyson. He is making pot edibles in the shape of a bitten off ear. Ugh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I feel like this is a little weird and that, who was the guy but they're off of uh hold on holyfield holyfield yeah holyfield should get this some of this money you know it's his ear yeah here's the thing too i'm looking at the photo of these they look like dog treats yeah they don't look I mean I wouldn't put one of these in my mouth I don't think no they they oh that's like sugar coated

you know what they are they're like uh like those orange slices candied orange slices you can get that are like jelly with um that are just coated with a layer of sugar yeah a granulated sugar yeah yeah that's your that's that's that's dead on what you're saying but but the color of a dog tree the color of a uh uh uh ra hide bone yeah so it's basically a full ear but then a chunk taken out of the top part which is where holyfield lost part of his ear but i'm just saying like holyfield should have maybe he totally should because that's his ear being represented and Mike Tyson, if he could do any of it,

he should just be able to capitalize on the portion of the ear he ate, pick it off, as opposed to the rest of the ear. Yeah, exactly. You don't get the whole ear, dude. Gosh, dang it. Anyway, this is what the company said in a tweet when they announced them. Holy ears, they're finally here. Get your Mike bites now.

Representative for Tyson 2.0, that's the company that he has, did not immediately respond to a request for comment about what, exactly was going on or what was being sold or where these edibles being sold how much they're going to cost. But Tyson products are available in certain marijuana retailers in California, Colorado, and Nevada. You could go get at Tyson. So I could go out and buy these today. Yeah, you could go get some ears. Do you got a dispensary near you? Probably do. No, they don't allow them here in, in Arvada. Like, it's a, yeah, no, there's, there's, we've got dispensaries not too far away, but none in Arvada. Like, I'd have to go.

up to Broomfield or into Denver County to do it. Gotcha. Dave, I'll bet Dave has some of these ears. Crazy ear, Dave. He doesn't. They're, they're,

they're less edibles and more just want the, just want the, the, the plant. They just want the dried up plant. Yeah, they want to put that in a bowl and fire it up. That's right.

Hey, look at you. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm all into that culture now. I understand it. I don't understand any of it. So the question.

has come up. Yeah. And don't feel like you've got to commit to anything. But at one point, you said, you know, when it's, when it's legal. Oh, well, totally you want to Vegas. I'll totally want to Vegas. You are going to totally eat one of Vegas. Oh, yeah. I totally will. Look, I've had, I've, I talked about this on the show. I don't know if I have. Somebody gave me me, oh, so somebody who went to California brought back some of these gave me one. Yeah. And I tried it. Because again, they were legally procured. Am I legally eating it here? not. No, but anyway, these laws are dumb. But anyway, it was fine. It didn't even, like, I just chilled me out. So I'm, yeah, hey, Vegas, check it out. I'll put one of your ears in my, you know what? If he's got those ears there, this is what, I'll eat one of those ears in Vegas. How about that? Oh, I might have to bring one then because it looks like it's, oh, no, there it is. Yeah, California, Colorado and Nevada. Yeah, it's in Nevada somewhere. There we go. I don't know, I assume in Vegas somewhere. But yeah, like, that's definitely a ticketed event, people. We'll have to figure out, Like, do we do it before the pinball competition to make him a little bit worse at joust?

Look at the teradactal. Yeah, it doesn't bother me at all. Like, it's just a damn, this damn plant. I mean, it was only, I think, 5 milligrams, so it wasn't like some mass. I'm not going to do it. If any of you are hoping I dose hard or something, don't expect that. But like, you know, a little half-y. I'll do that.

Yeah, sure. Well, anyway, go get your ears, is the point. We're going to take a break when we come back. Oh, you know what? I may play this real quick. You know how Chick-fil-A has huge lines all the time? That's just sort of normal for them. They do, yeah, like canes and in-and-out burger, yeah.

I'm going to play a little of this, and you can hear it. Check this out. A Chick-fil-A restaurant in Santa Barbara may soon be declared a public nuisance because of its long drive-thru lines. According to reports, the backup has blocked driveways of other businesses and even forced city buses. to stall as drivers wait for the lines to clear. The city council is giving Chick-fil-A an additional 90 days to present its solutions, and the owner of the location says he is working to resolve this. Okay.

Would you blame Chick-fil-A for being popular? Like, I feel like this is not their fault. No, I feel like they zoned wrong then. Yeah, I mean, what do they just say, we're cutting off the line at five cars and just drive around the block until it opens up? I mean, we had a problem here with Cains when it opened, raising Cains, and they had lines that wrapped around and interfered with other businesses and got in the way. And they had police there directing traffic and all of that. But I don't think they ever were like, we're going to make you a, we're going to designate you as a public nuisance.

And therefore now it's Chick-fil-A. That franchisee has to figure out what the hell to do. That's lame. Yeah, yeah. Set a Barbara, man. It's pretty. It's beautiful up there. But, you know, they've got a lot.

their rules. You have to have a certain kind of roof on your house. Well, I don't know if that's totally true. But every house is the same damn roof. Whether it's, whether it's law or just, you know, wanted to fit in. Yeah. We just want to look like we know what we're doing. Yeah. You know, the Santa Barbara roof law. Sure. My favorite, my favorite of the local Santa Barbara laws. Well, anyway, good luck to them and hopefully all the chicken you can eat. All right. Let's move on to take a break. When we come back, my sister Wendy's should be here, although I don't see her yet, but she knows to come in at 10, and it's 10, so she'll be here shortly. Anyway, we'll have some chat with her. I've got a few things on

the docket there, and then, you know, more stuff too. So, hey, Brian, play a song before we can. Okay, I'll do that. How about Yumi Zuma? We've played Yumi Zuma before, but they have a brand new album coming out this weekend, and then they've got a North American tour that begins April 7th, starting in Atlanta, Georgia. The brand new album is called Present Tense, and these guys are great perfect combination of electronic and analog just just so good and and who was i thinking of this morning a little bit of uh Lana del Rey meets um hyme kind of thing okay that sounds interesting yeah alt pop yumi zuma and not pronounced yummy by the way not pronounced yummy zoom oh no it's umizuma got it okay clarification they just released the third of their music videos of their uh Alex

Ross Perry Trilogy. So go check that out as well. And this album is being called by Stereogum. It's being called the best thing they've ever released as a Steregum album of the week. Here is the brand new single Astral Progression. All right. We'll be right back. Stay tuned.

So, uh, and uh, Let them cut them cut the ties to I'll be coming on to conceive Catching my horizons I'm ringing bell to the boy

By repeating visions View and on the wiser And I panic and wonders for distance When I let it come from you I feel free. I feel free way. No, I'm not your head. The people are the best of the used to be.

Flying seven seats that I kept in my hand. my hands Danny lines bloom to you and not a fan Look towards my future I'll lead a thousand threads A deeper connection No comes if you choose us

Spend a day outside Your astral projection Hold me in your arms, I know this wouldn't lost, I know it shouldn't feel safe, but I do. Even you don't care, I'm out of you. What would you choose if there wasn't a plan? What would you do if I spun round and ran? You would never tell me what you knew. I'm not

a lot I'm going to I'm going to Hold me in your arms. I know this wouldn't lost. I know I should feel safe, but I do. Here and you don't care, I'm out of you. Here and you don't care. I'm out of you. What about you, maggot? You've got anything to say, or your veins bloated with brain eradicator, too? Definitely, Dr. Superman.

You can't spell the morning stream without remonstrating. This is the morning stream. All right. Welcome back, everybody. Brian, that song once again was who? Sure. That song is Y-M-M-I-Z-U-M-A. And the brand-new song, Astral Progression, or Projection from their upcoming album, Present Tense, which comes out this Friday, which really is tomorrow. It is tomorrow. Most of us. Yeah, for most of us, it is tomorrow. All right, we have, oh, here, let me fix Wendy's camera. Wendy, say hi. Say hello to everybody. Hello, everybody. Hello. Do I have to bend over like this the whole time? No, but you can...

Oh, I guess... Kim's shorter than you, isn't she? How? Is she short? I can move this. Oh, yeah, you can move that down. Oh, there you go. Now, scoge up and you're good.

And I'm going to turn the lights on so we can actually see it. It's really dark. Hold on a second. Who does... Hi, Wendy, how are you? Hi, I'm good, Brian. How are you? Good.

Nobody dust. It's good to have you slightly closer. Yeah. I drove through Colorado and thought of you the whole time. Oh, wow. The whole time. You should have let me know. I know.

And then stopped, and you could have seen our dirty car and said hi to my grumpy kids. Yeah. Brian could have got you some edibles. He lives in the land. Right. I passed like four dispensaries and everyone had a Taco Bell next to it. Yeah. It's amazing how that works out.

Yeah. Makes sense. Is that, I mean, is that mostly true that dispensaries aim to put themselves in restaurant zones and things like that? Talk about moved itself there. I could tell. It was clearly. But it's smart. It is smart.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Taco Bell, especially. Although you shouldn't be driving on those things. You're going to take an edible. Oh, right. Not Taco Bell. I mean, Taco Bell's fine if you're driving. I don't know, is it?

I don't, well, that's a debatable point. It's a diuretic. It is a diuretic. My sister Wendy's here, everybody. She's in town. Yeah, that's right. The town what births her. You're back.

Well, not this particular town, but where were we born, Sandy? Salt Lake, wherever we, I don't know, where we were born. 20 minutes from here. But normally, she's in Minnesota. Not now. She's here with her whole family. They went skiing yesterday. They watched the jazz beat the freaking stupid Bulls yesterday. By the way, so many Bulls fans there. Yeah, that weirds me out. You were saying that last night.

Yeah. What do you think that's about? So I talked to the friend that got us some tickets, I talked to him about it. I said, is this normal? He goes, it's every game. There's fans from whatever. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. Do I think it's weird? It is weird. Yeah, especially them. I could understand if this was like we were playing the Nuggets and a bunch of Denver fans came. Or, I don't know if, like, people who are Raiders fans will probably come out of California to see the Raiders play.

But then maybe we're closer to seeing Denver and the Broncos play. So we're closer, you know, then we'll go to Vegas and watch them play. Like, that's just a weird thing to think about Chicago all the way out there. Yeah. Coming all the way here to see a stupid jazz game. Well, I don't think that's happening. I think they live here. That's a good point.

Yeah. I hadn't thought about that. There are probably some transplants from Chicago. I have to say, though, most of the universities here, if you walk around campuses, everyone will have sweatshirts from other schools. I feel like it is a lot of people converge here and then keep their own stuff. But you don't go to Harvard and everyone's like, I'll go to Yale shirt. Yeah, no, you don't do that. It's very weird.

But Dennis Robin sat in front of me. He had a Rodman jersey. Shut up, really? He sprayed his hair. It was not actually Dennis Rutman. Oh, it looked like him. But there's some throwbacks. It was fun.

Like, why would Robin be in Salt Lake City for anything? other than beating us in the 90s. Gosh, dang. So the last time I was here. Well, I'm glad you're here. I already told this whole story earlier, so we don't have to reiterate it, but I had so much fun with Peter last night.

We had a blast. Total blast. That kid has more energy than, I don't know, like hair, and he has a lot of hair. He has a lot of hair, and so he took ski lessons yesterday, and we spotted him a few times. Oh, my heavens.

He is never not himself. Yeah, yeah. And he's just screaming. His jackets open the whole. whole time, he never zipped it up. I was like, what is wrong with you? It's like sleeting in our faces, and he doesn't care. He's just a strange human.

He would probably wear jeans in that snow if you let him. He would. Right? And not think a thing about it. The rest of us would be miserable, big heavy, frozen jeans. We're uncomfortable. We have a horrible red rash going. Like, it'd be a nightmare.

Not Peter. He's good. He's good to rule. As we started, the instructors, like, helping out. And Peter goes, question. He does that a lot. Yeah. He always says, question.

And he goes, like Dwight Shrewd. Yeah. Question. Do you like your job? Yeah. He really asked about it. That's awesome. He's going to. Yeah.

I do. And he's like, well, good. All right. I don't know what he's going to do. I don't know. But I think it might have the word dispensary in it. Hopefully not Taco Bell. When he learned you could grow things indoors a couple years ago, it was like, there's my destiny.

Oh, that's great. Well, think about if you're a kid and you're like, plants who cares right they're everywhere wait you can grow something inside the house as a kid you would lose your mind so yeah he maybe that's his future who knows by then Minnesota maybe even

Utah will finally make it legal yeah I sure Minnesota will be first well they're going to be before us I can guarantee you that well anyway it's good to have you here you're here for a few reasons one of the reasons that you're here is we were we had a big get together and kind of like a

hey let's get together remember dad on the anniversary of his death. You call it his death anniversary. What'd you call it? His death birthday. Death birthday. It's from,

come on, help me out. Is it a movie? Is it the O.C.? I don't know. Not, no. The TV show, the O.C.? It's his death birthday. You have to say like a surfer.

Come on, help me. Oh. You know, Brian? Harold and Kumar. Two doors of my car. He's confused. I didn't name it all. Up and smoke.

I don't remember that it. Up and smoke. That's a Chin Chin-Chang movie, isn't it? It is, yeah. It's Lonnie's death birthday. It's Lonnie, right? It's Lonnie's death birthday. Lonnie?

Hold on. Someone Google that. I'm going to look it up right now. It's Lonnie's death birthday. This is not ringing a bell to me. No, not me either. Oh. Somebody found the, Icor found the link.

It's like his death birthday. Oh, really? We have audio? Let me see. I'll play this. Yeah, right. This is his birthday, man. Yeah, man.

Like his death birthday. Okay. Right, bro. This is. This is Orange County. That's what it is. The movie, not the O.C. The TV show.

Oh, oh. The movie with, yeah, the one with Tom Hanks' kid, Colin Hanks in it. And Jack Black's in it. It's a good, it's a really good movie. It's literally the only line I've probably ever heard, but I've been using it for the last however many years when someone's death birthday. It's very irreverent. I should stop.

But anyway, it was dad's death birthday. 22 years. 22 years. And so we were going to do it in 2020, but, you know, we well know how that went. that year. But it was nice. My mom was there and John, whatever he is, what is he? What is he?

He's our stepdad. I know, it's weird. I was like, what is he? Isn't that weird to say? And we've never called him that. No, we've never done that. It's always like, John, my mom's husband. Yeah.

Well, they got married in his 80s. The guy who married my mom's house. Scott always refers to him. Because it doesn't sound right to say, I can't say my stepfather, John. It doesn't sound right. No. Because there's no other connection outside of the fact that. He doesn't earn that title, is what you're saying.

Yeah, but also, and I don't blame him for it because he wasn't here that long. It's, he married my mom when she was, what, 60? I don't know. It's been 20 years. So she's 81, so 62, 3, something like that. So, you know, they're well in their adulthood. I've got three kids, like, I can't call him dad. That's weird.

Anyway, he's, he was there. And then we had everybody there and a bunch of people via Zoom, although we had some weird tech issues with Zoom. That was like really funky. So we had like my brother Mark trying to tell a really heartfelt bunch of memories of him and my dad. And, you know, in his case, he is a real stepdad to my brother, um, who came from a different dad. Anyway, he was getting emotional and trying to tell this whole room of us, you know, from Phoenix. He was supposed to actually be here, but canceled last second. So he's all the way remote talking everybody. And gosh dang it, the internet or whatever would not let him talk.

And so he's just spilling his guts. And all we're getting is, warp, up, eat. And then lots of crying. And lots of crying. And the only time it worked is when he was crying. Yeah, he'd be like pausing and crying. And then it would kick in again, Brian.

Like, it was bad. And it was moving and it was lovely and all the things. But I kept thinking, man, he has amazing hair. Did he not have a amazing hair? You don't want to. And you don't want to interrupt him and say, we're not hearing any of the things you say because he's, Just spilling his guts.

My brother's always been a tall, handsome guy and always had good hair, but he's 62 now. He's 10 years older than me. His hair is phenomenal. He has amazing hair for a guy. It looked like someone did it right before he got on the call. It's bizarre. Like he has people, and I know he doesn't. He has Beyonce people.

Yeah, and I know he doesn't. He has a couple of weird dogs they keep around. The dogs do his hair. Yeah, but anyway, it was nice, and everybody's sharing all these feelings and thoughts. So I thought, I don't know, maybe, maybe this would be a good time. Because we're also looking kind of down the barrel of, well, my mom's not getting any younger. You know, she's 82. She's had some health issues.

We think she had COVID and just didn't get tested because her lungs are shot. I'm sure of it. But she, you know, she survived it, obviously. She had that brain tumor thing removed last year. Just a, was it last year? Yeah, 20, 21. Early 2021. So she's had all these issues and stuff.

And she's getting, I mean, she's. she's there she's good it's just it's impossible not to look at her now and go oh yeah we need to feel ready or be ready or prepare and it's not just so the reason i'm bringing all this up is there's the two is there's the two kinds of preparing there's the and i hope a lot of people out there maybe have similar situations so this will be relatable to you but there's the two kinds of preparing in my dad's case there was no preparing because he died suddenly of a heart attack and there was no anything anybody could do and it turned out there was a lot of stuff sort of in the air when he passed, like he had life insurance right up until two months prior

to that and then let it drop and then it was going to do something else but then didn't before his death. So there was a big hole there financially and we were all trying to figure out what we're going to do for mom and she wasn't working and so on and so forth. But in this particular case, you know, there's there's time to think about it and to plan and of course John's involved and John's John's very stable in that regard, the financial way. And who knows, he's 90. So he could go for her, I don't know. And he still drives, by the way. 90-year-old whipping down the freeway, getting tickets, just like a little speech.

And mad at everyone. I saw him drop a hot thing of, like, a couple pizzas he'd warmed up. Yeah. Drop them and catch them. Yeah. And I was like, what in the world? At 90. At 90.

Yeah. Yeah, he's got the reflexes of a cat. It's something. I would have just dropped him. Yeah. I was thinking he was saying, like, while he was driving. He was dropping, catching and dropping pizzas. But he's a delivery guy.

He's from a certain era, right? Ryan, they love their pizza in the car. But he's just, he's a cranky old cuss, but he's got like, you know, he's got his faculties for the most part. His legs hurt a lot and stuff like that, but whatever, you get old and my legs hurt. So. Anyway, the point is, it feels like there's more of a chance to do it here, but the, but the emotional preparation is still the hard thing, I think. So I don't know if we can build a topic out of that, you know, how to be, how to be better prepared. Mentally prepared, emotionally prepared.

And, you know, Brian, your mom's doing good, but, you know, she's not going to have her, she's not going to live another 50 years, right? Neither, neither of us. Yeah, I'm not either, probably. Right. So to be, you know, prepared for this sort of thing seems important. My dad, sure. Yeah.

So what would you, where would we even start with that conversation? Well, and maybe I'm going to take it to the end to move forward. That's fine. So when somebody passes, and Brian, I'm, forgive me for not. Remembering when your dad passes, is it pretty recent? No, he's still alive. My stepdad, my stepdad passed away. Oh, is your stepdad, okay.

Wow, how long has it been, uh, seven or eight years, I think? Oh, wow. Yeah. Was it a surprise or was it a? Um, well, the, the, uh, the illness was sudden. Like he, he basically got really sick, um, suddenly and then just kind of health deteriorated while he was in hospice care for about two weeks. So we had a little bit of time like, okay, this is probably the end.

But the initial onset was, felt like it was pretty quick. Teen, his father just passed away as well. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of that. Last December. Yeah. Okay. I think that might be. And maybe you could speak to that example or, you know.

That's a good example. Yep. Yeah. Of this, it happens. And then you get to see family dynamics with. a lighter underneath them, right? So when therapists talk about the pandemic's impact on people, we sort of see it as, it was a catalyst for whatever was already there.

So if your marriage was pretty strong, it got stronger. If your marriage had a crack in it, that crack spread faster than it would have otherwise. And we can see that in lots of different places. In fact, I can't remember the reference, but I think it was on wait, wait, don't tell me, but there was, like, this center for peace and conflict resolution, like, apparently is just on fire with conflict. Like, they're thinking they ought to shut it down, like, stuff like that. Like, you know, you can kind of coast with life a little bit.

Everyone kind of does their thing and you have your, your coping strategies or whatever. Maybe you don't see each other that much or you don't engage in certain topics as a family. But then when a death occurs, especially a sudden one, well, there's two versions of it. the slow burn of a slower death and then you know this the sudden where it just reveals the thing yeah um so you'll get to see various dynamics uh that that are at play that we all don't want to talk about Thanksgiving dinner also does this as well where you can kind of go oh yeah maybe we shouldn't all meet together um but then you know decisions are made or whatever is happening and and so that's working backward you have this thing that will reveal itself and when you say hey

how do I prep for this sometimes it's just admitting out loud what the dynamics might be. So maybe, and Brian, I don't know about Tina's families. She come from a complicated place or a couple people, lots of people. Yeah, there's definitely some disagreements as far as, like, the further out you go, there are family members that just don't talk to each other because of money disagreements or not really even political disagreements. is kind of the outlier being the liberal in her family. Her mom is is kind of moderate,

but her brother is very much on the other side of things. And so there's always that little head button thing that kind of rears its ugly head whenever there's a grouping like this. Right. Gotcha. Okay. So those underlying sort of things kind of show themselves. They do. Yeah, they get amplified. They do. And it's so hard because it's all intertwined with grief, right? And everyone grieves really differently. So something fascinating in the family, we kind of all got up and told different stories about our dad. And it was really notable the difference from the oldest child to me, the youngest child. So our oldest brother had, you know, how our dad taught him his work ethic and was very strict with him and, you know, taught him the value

of a dollar. And it was just br-ba-da. And then the next brother's just, it was all business. And and some stuff he has not really worked through, as we could all tell. No. You know what's even better? What I liked about Matt, so my brother Matt, the show,

people listen to know who Matt is. He was adopted and he was nine and he's never lost his accent. He's the most Korean of Koreans we have in the family. We have three Korean siblings. And he was 11. Oh, I'm sorry. I was nine.

He was nine. He was mixed it up. He, at least we think he was 11. We still don't know. We guessed. He has the body of a 15 year old in the face of a,

a 90-year-old child. But anyway, he doesn't have a lot of flowery ways to express what he's feeling. So listening to him is always interesting to me because what you're getting is very raw translated thoughts. And his definitely are things like, you know, when my dad was struggling with his businesses and Matt was involved or investing some of his own money and trying to make it happen, that stuff didn't work out. A lot of stuff crashed around him. It was all kind of hard to deal with. And Matt's really never let that go. Yeah.

And he's talking about like the trauma. Well, he was working with him, being paid by him. And there's trauma there. And there is some resentment with how he sort of handled money. I think you and I take some of those stories of like how my dad just was really kind to people that screwed him over financially over and over. Like some big names in the Salt Lake Valley. And we see it as like, what a good guy.

And then Matt sees it as, uh, that was really. hard and hard to see him fail and you know and so you have that just a difference and then as we go down the line scots you know were more of these sort of lovely stories and moments and things you know a lot of life lesson stuff things things for me that were like stuff you'd say when as a teenager that i didn't take seriously until later in life like that's my memory of it and then by the time we get to you well and then misha's kind of similar yeah misha's a little like me and then me i'm just telling funny stories yeah because they just have funny stories to tell. And he and I shared this common bond of like messing with people. Yeah. And playing tricks and

doing fun stuff. And so that's, you know, and as our oldest brother's talking, Misha and I are just like, that's not the same dad we had. And so sometimes that's, there's, you know, obviously we have a big span of age and circumstances. So we can watch this happen. But I think a lot of people will experience a version of a parent, losing a parent that changed over time. So maybe a, a, you know, younger father who was, you know, gone all the time or more angry, more testosterone when you're younger, testosterone. Testosterosterone. Testosterone.

And then as an older dad, just sweet and nice. And I've seen this a lot with women taking care of their mothers in their older, you know, elderly years that have a lot of wounds from how they were raised. But now there's just this sweet old lady. They got to help. And that is incredibly difficult. So I think you have these underlying things, historical things, everybody's different. I mean, it's astounding we're not all at war all the time.

Yeah. And I think, Brian, when you mentioned, some people just don't talk to each other as we expand out in a family. I think that is kind of the universal, at least American way, is to just, and we don't talk. Yeah, it's a lot easier, right? It's like, here's how we can avoid that problem. Yeah, we used to talk about, like, how the Korean culture leans toward, face-saving and Asian

Asian cultures generally, but this idea that, well, I just won't talk about what's happening or whatever. The older I've gotten, I realized everyone does this to some level, right? Some may be more extremes in some cultures, but I feel like if

anything, American culture has gotten way worse at that in recent decades, let's say. And I'm not sure why that is. I think maybe it's where we're finally getting to a place where the world is

such a small place now and it's so multicultural and there's so much more than just our exceptionalism that we usually see with ourselves that directly conflicts with everything else and so when that starts to happen you're like oh well maybe we're not as cool but then you want to defend yourself and say no we are as cool when really all you have to do is say no we're pretty cool we have our problems like everybody else and interesting history it's riddled with all sorts of falsehoods and truths and, and then problems and conflicts, but also some really good things. You know, it's actually easy to go there if you will let yourself go there, but I think as a culture, we're really resistant.

Yes, for sure. I have conversations with people about their medical stuff and they start with, oh my gosh, it was so terrible and I can't believe how I was treated. It was so expensive and blah, blah, blah. And then I say, oh, yeah, when I was in Sweden, and I just shared just kind of some examples and they're like, yeah, but I'm like, okay. Yeah, but the popular. of Sweden is much more than that's even a decent argument it's just like yeah but I want to wait

in the ER for seven hours I'm like didn't you just tell me you waited in the ER for seven hours and it cost you five grand and then and not listen you don't wait in ER for seven hours in Sweden oh where's our Swedish listener who's going to argue with me somebody always somebody always always argues with me yeah forget my Sweden no but just that defensiveness of like you know who and this is actually really appropriate for how families sometimes act, right? Like, you can't call my mom a name, but I can call her a name. Yeah. Like, it's proprietary a little bit and just how, how we handle our family dynamic. So, you know, as you're listening to this, you're probably like, great, Scott and Wendy's family's

weird. We're not that weird. But so is yours. Every family is weird. And that's because genetics do not determine everybody's personality and trajectory in life, right? Like, if it did, we'd all be a lot more similar or whatnot. But it is fascinating how that can really create drama, problems, et cetera. And then you add death and dying to the mix, which, I mean, I think I've asked this question on the show before. When was the last time you guys had a class on grieving?

Never, never. And who taught you how to handle sudden loss? No one. And who said, what's normal to feel and it's okay and this is how to look. Yeah. None. But in the Swedish health care is no. No, I'm just kidding.

Just you're all good. But yeah, no, so nobody knows what they're doing. And then you sort of have all the things that have been stewing for years. And it can be very challenging. So how to prepare is, I always say the same thing. Take your garbage out first. Well, some of that is, you know, maybe dealing with some dynamics that are currently happening wherever you are in your family. You may have sort of young parents and think, oh, this is way off.

Sure. Yeah, you will think that. I did. I thought that was a forever ago. it was forever ago when he died, or forever away. I remember the day he died, I'm like 29 or something, 30, maybe I'd turn 30 by then. No, I hadn't, I hadn't quite turned 30. No, it's 2000. That's 30. And I remember thinking, this is young. Look at these. They're going to be around forever. They started young. We started young. I'll be around forever when my kids are older.

Like that mentality definitely is there when you're younger. And the older you get, you go, and that was like a sudden shocking moment of realization of like oh no not only is he not going to be here around forever he's not going to be around here next thursday yeah and i know i can tell you with a surety i have still not properly dealt with dad's death like the the impact of its suddenness what it my worldview changing as a result of it just like a lot of naive sort of almost childlike feelings and thoughts that I had almost all the way up through 30, suddenly completely altered and changed, and I've never really addressed it. Right.

And I know Matt hasn't. No. I don't think, honestly, I don't think all of us have at all. I think we were so worried about it makes sure mom's okay. Yeah. It's all just like emergency management mode. And I don't know if in those 22 years anybody's ever just gone, okay, so let's really unpack the impact of what this was.

Yeah. And then how does it affect us moving forward? And, you know, even just mentioning dad passing, all I picture is my little six-year-old Taylor daughter, who's now 27 and has a baby as a three-year-old. I just picture her crying because she doesn't quite know what's going on yet, but she knows enough to know that this is really sad and the grandpa's not here anymore. And I don't know if we've ever dealt properly with that loss with her or not because I just don't No. I don't know. And you probably need a therapist to tell you if you have. Right.

Yeah. Well, okay. So let's talk about how you do know. Because I think most people, especially when you have no concept of what grief or that process might look like, are just like, well, I've stopped crying. So there's, there we go. Must be done. For two stages of grief, crying and not crying. Cry and then I'm not. And then I'm moving on. Or there's the, I never cried. Oh, something wrong with me, stage. I think a lot of people. can to go through that, especially when things are complicated or you just don't know why you're not crying. Like you just aren't feeling it. Um, you know, so if you sat down with the therapist and said, okay, here's what happened and you have never had an emotion about it. It's your, your parent or your loved one, you know, in theory, you should have some kind of response. Sure. Then you start to peel back layers of like, all right, let's dissect your relationship with that person and try to

understand maybe where you got there. If someone has been caring for someone, you know, slowly slowly passing for a year and a half and they don't they feel relief at the end they feel terrible that they feel relief but of course they feel relief of course kind of our systems aren't built for long-term care right there is no evolution training that any of us have that has a doctor with a million degrees making sure you live longer like that's that it's not built into how we can we grieve correctly we don't right uh anyway i'm not that humans have ever we're just here to reproduce and survive, not cry and feel better about ourselves. Like, that's not built into the system.

So, you know, hacking that is part of what, I guess you do. So anyway, meeting with therapists, finding out, you know, and they would probably say, wow, you're doing probably better than you think. They also may say, oh, you are maybe needing some more help and processing. So everyone's going to be sort of at different places. But I do think, you know, if you are having the thought, like, I don't know if I ever did the thing, like Scott just said, you should try it out. Just talk to someone and someone specializing in grief.

Maybe you head over to some websites that are just talking about grief and see if you're sort of hitting, feeling stuck or you're feeling like it's impacted your life in some way. I've always thought about it this way and I don't know if it's correct, but, you know, when you lose a parent, you're orphaned. Yeah. And it doesn't matter if you're 50 or 70, you're still orphaned. And that's sort of like the person older than you that's supposed to keep you safe, even. even if they're 100 and they're not keeping you safe for the last 30 years or whatever you know that losses is really profound and so you know not everyone's going to need therapy about it but maybe there is you know just some acknowledgement just what a big deal it is well I thought the

thing we did the other night was extremely cathartic for I can't speak for everybody but definitely was for me and I realized after we were done that we haven't done that Oh, like we didn't even do that in the immediate aftermath of it. There was, you know, a service in the funeral and all that. And you have your, you have your, yeah, it's just a blur. It's mostly just, here's, oh, this side of dad's family we haven't seen for 20 years. They've all been in California. I guess we're going to have to have the awkward meeting of them.

And who are they? And oh, it's nice to catch up. And you're not really processing. You just sort of, I don't know, you're weird and numb. It sucks. And you're dealing with people who are terrible at expressing their, condolences. So I had some funny stories. But then, you know, like all that happens. And I think a lot of people now are doing wakes later. Like they're giving themselves

some time. And maybe COVID has spread that out a bit because like a celebration of somebody's life couldn't happen in the way it might have, right? A good friend of mine, her dad died about two years ago, I think it was yesterday in a kind of a freak car accident. A year after her mom died of cancer. So it was a rough situation. And that right as COVID was starting. So the funeral was her and her husband and her sister. I mean, there's lots of kids and lots of family and they only let six people into the thing. And so the rest, you know, it was televised. But there's some stunted grieving that occurred when you are alone. Even though you're grieving in this collective, you know, electronically, it's just

wasn't, it isn't the same. So I think there's a common challenge that's happened the last couple years of grieving differently and maybe being more stuck. But so these wakes or, you know, or a commemorate or commemoration later or something like we just did, I think is really valuable. Yeah. It was. I was actually skeptical about it because I just thought, as usual, it's a little chaotic. They're little kids everywhere. Oh my gosh. They're so loud. But you realize that part of that chaos, and I think I may have said it, someone said it, there. My dad loved that chaos. He loved kids and he loved the grandkids. And he loved the grandkids.

and then seeing them have kids would have just been the wonder of his life. He would have loved it. So even hearing all that, it didn't bother me because I'm thinking, no, this is what he'd want. And also, he would want it to be flubbed up a little. He'd want the internet to be broken. He would want to know what the internet was.

He would. He wasn't super down with the internet when he was here, or he didn't understand it. But, but yeah, like I kind of went in thinking, this is going to be a bit of a cluster. But I'm excited. My sister's in town. I'm excited to see everybody at the time we thought Mark was coming.

So I was excited to see Mark, you know, all that. And then it turned into this thing that was just really, I don't know. I don't know what the word for it is. Cathartic is the best word I have. It's really sweet. My kids, both my boys came up afterwards. Pete, I don't know. He's dancing on the roof somewhere.

I don't know. But, oh, no. What Pete said was, I don't even know the guy. That's weird that we were talking about him. I'm like, okay. And he is the. most like him. It's a lot like him.

Yeah. The way his brain works. Very, very much. But he's in a different era. Thank goodness, man. You don't want to grow up. My dad grew up if you're a little quirky. And left-handed and different.

All that stuff. He's left-handed too. They really got discriminated against, right? That left-hand thing is no joke. Yeah. Wipped by teachers if you used it. Yeah. So, okay, but then my other two boys came and sat by me.

Wait, Brian, are you, you're left-handed? I'm left-handed. Did you know you would have been beat in the 30s? The 30s. Yeah. And he was worried about that with Tina when she started going to school. He went to the school on her first day and said, yeah, my daughter's left-handed. Don't hit her with the ruler. Don't try and change her. Don't. And they're like, we don't do that anymore. But I would have checked too, man. That's so terrible. That's intense. Yeah. All right. Sorry. I didn't do it. My left-handed son came and sat down and talked to me. And he, I mean, I'm not a big crier. So, you know, it's like once a year at a movie maybe. And they're like, so they're like, so they were. were watching me like, what, mom is standing there publicly crying? So they were very cute, but they were just, like, it was so fun for them to hear those

stories because they're way past. Yeah, they don't know. Not knowing him. You had two of your three kids really have memories. Even Carter's were pretty mildly. Carter's are cloudy. Nick has no memory. He was only two months old or month old, I think.

Yeah. And Taylor was, like I said, six. So they were. So it was fun to have them hear that. And I tried to put myself in. their shoes, like, sitting around, listen to stories about my grandpa that I never met. That's interesting, right?

So it was kind of cool. So this is Uncle Tubby, by the way. Everyone talked about him constantly. Never met that, dude. Don't know what thing about him. Just pictures of him. There's pictures of this guy named Tubby. It looks like something out of a 1940s, like, noir film.

Yeah. What was his real name? Because it wasn't Tubby. Oh, do I know that? I don't think I know that. Yeah, he must have. Brian, you're right. There's no way it was Tubby.

Tubberware. I don't know. Yeah, it was Tupperware. Tubleton. He always burped and claimed it, made him fresh. I don't know. Tubbster. Tubbsum McTuberson.

We have no idea. But anyway, everyone talking about him or even like Aunt Hilda, who I barely remember. It's Hidda. Yeah, but it was Hilda was a real name. Yeah. But we called her Hitta. And she, Mark knew her real well. I barely knew her, just tiny kid, kind of vague memories of this really old person in a chair.

That's all I remember. But people just fawn over her and talk about her like she's this amazing person. She's born in the 1800s and saw all this stuff in her life and all of that. That must have been similar for the boys. Yeah. Because what are they looking at? This is another person they don't know, really. Yeah, wearing dumb glasses and weird jackets.

So that was the other problem I had when he, when dad died. I never really dealt with this very well, I don't think. And it's, it's, maybe it's a little selfish. But I just really wanted a grandfather figure for my kids. I wanted that so bad And it's it's It's there with Kim's side Yeah

But I wanted this Dad was awesome with our kids He was amazing with our children And No offense to my mom He was better with my kids And my mom was I love my mom

But you know He just was And so him leaving You know Going at that time Was like no wait a minute One's a month old I got this too

And then I look at Wendy's family Like She's just getting started over here She doesn't have anything anything yet. Like, this is not fair. It felt really unfair. Yeah. So that's a whole other stage of this, right? Totally. And that's, that's a big piece people deal with because when is it fair. Can you name the date when it would be fair? When is death fair? And maybe it's, you know, maybe in very old age, very, like lots of things were resolved or done or, you know, you can kind of, I think this is why

people have this inclination toward bucket lists or like they, you know, we have an impulse to, to not have this unfairness. So we all went to lunch all the ladies and we indoctrinated my daughter into the ladies lunch and what that entails. So you're now all lunch ladies now. We're all lunch ladies. And I said, all right, this is what happens. Old ladies sit around and talk about horrible things that have happened to other people. And part of it is this hashing the unfairness of like an untimely death or some young person with this or, you know, some horrible accident or something.

because it's it's our way of managing a thing that's we're powerless to manage, even though it's clearly not managing anything. But I think there's a bit of that. It's just that lack of fairness or plan or. And so when you say, hey, how do we plan for this? It's a little bit like, yeah, he can't really plan. But can you get your acts together? Can you resolve differences?

I think, you know, having yourself, oh, I have a great example. Did you see, we watched a lot of the Olympics. I think when you live in a tundra, you're like, let's see what we can do in a tundra. Let's look at our options. Maybe the half pipe, everybody. Let's do that. Anyway, so it was a lot of fun. But there was a young guy who was doing the half pipe and snowboarding, I believe.

It might have been skiing. I can't remember. Okay. Anyways, from Utah. I was training here. Got a really bad car accident. They showed a skeleton with, like, its head cracked in the ways his was. So they kind of gave you a representation of like how damaged this kid.

You fell asleep at the wheel, got crushed by some truck or something. Anyway, he shared the story. This is, you know, on the little blurbs in between. And I just thoroughly enjoyed watching him compete. Because when he would finish, he'd do his thing, you could just see him like, I shouldn't even be alive, right? Like just this absolute, I'm only doing this to have a blast. I'm just thrilled to be a human.

Oh, Colby Stevenson. Is that him? Yes. Yeah, I think that's it. Okay. And every time he would come and, you know, they do the scores and the rest are kind of like, I mean, they're 19-year-olds. All of them are 15 or something. And they're just like, I better win.

I got to do this. So, you know, they're in a different brain state. His was just one of abject appreciation to be there. And I thought, oh, man, sometimes it takes nearly dying or someone dying or whatever, it is to sort of wake you up to, you know, the appreciation of what you do have. and I think that's a tricky thing because we don't stay in that brain state. That's not how we're built.

However, he's seeming to maintain it. Yeah, he got silver for hell's sake. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Nicely done. And, you know, most silver medalists are the least happy. But in his case, he's like,

dad or silver, I'll take silver. He's bucking that trend. So I know for a fact, I'm not going to name any names or anything weird, but there's somebody in our chat room who has had it from the other direction, loss of a child early. and you'll, you'll, you know who it is, but she, she, uh, lost her daughter who was already

dealing with some special needs stuff for a long time. Yeah. And that's a case of knowing it's coming eventually, right? Like even Kim with her brothers who both suffered fatal or a fetal alcohol syndrome as infants, uh, are on a million drugs just to keep them alive. And they've some miraculously somehow made it to 35 or whatever they are now. and they weren't supposed to be past 20 or something.

So sometimes you get more time than you think. But still, you kind of know that clock is ticking. That's different, right? Or is it? Well, different in a lot of ways, but there's some similarities in that, you know, loss is relative to who you're losing. Yeah.

And I think this is where we get in trouble as humans when we try to empathize with one another or send condolences. is we take our own experience, and then we come at that feeling with the other person. And so we can't imagine. You can't imagine losing a child. I mean, if you really stop, you can't imagine, and you can take the time, and you will be a puddle on the floor.

And so to go at somebody who has lost a child without doing any work to really understand that, you would say nothing. You would hug them, maybe bring a casserole, you would, you'd also be a puddle. Like you wouldn't, you know, but our front of our brains are like, yeah, say the right thing. Make sure you say the right thing. Don't say the wrong thing. Say the right thing. Or, hey, I have an obligation to this person.

So you're going to go out of them and say, just like, I'm so sorry. Or I know how you feel. No, you don't. Right. So it's really hard to be the griever when people around you are misfiring. Because it happens. But it comes from the same place. Even those who have been through profound loss, no, they're not saying the right thing to other people

too. like it's it's a pretty universal experience of i'm i'm gonna say what i hope to say and then it comes across however i realize this is where kim gets her her reactions that she has to things like this like i was thinking about it the other day she she's not the person that awkwardly says sorry for your loss or any of these tripe things that we try to it's all good intention but it's all like wrote and you know like the what i don't know what to say so i'm going to say this yeah like my i was talking a marine friend the other day is like like, I hate it when people say, thanks for your service.

I hate it. And I mean, we have to go whole conversation as to why we don't have to get into it here. But it's just so standard. Yeah. And it's, and it gives everybody the standard thing to say. What was my point? My point was, oh, Kim, Kim will do the opposite. She'll go, and I'm not just trying to pump, she hates when I do this, but she'll go,

someone died. And it's rubber to the road. It's like, I'm taking food. I'm calling them. These flowers are on their way. Like, there's no, like, she does not feel comfortable just saying words. Her thing's all action. And I admire that, but I also think there's probably, I don't know, maybe there's no way

to say the right thing. Is there ever a way to have the right words? Probably not. What are the words going to be? I mean, because someone may really just want to hear, I'm sorry for your loss and you won't say it because you think it's the wrong thing to say. I don't know, you can't win. Good point.

But I do think there's a, you know, do your thing. It happens. But also, like, you can't be alone. This is why often, you know, when someone has a loved one die by suicide, really the only people that they can talk to and find solace and progress and have comfort is with others who've experienced it. It's just not something. And I think the loss of a child probably goes into that category too. And the level of tragic, right, that it does matter. The more horrible an accident versus, you know, fall.

asleep as an 80-year-old. We all react differently to that, right? I think some of it is just our own projection and human fear of different things, but also just, you know, hoping it's, that's how we go. Not like the people screaming in your car. Yeah, no kidding. Cleo on the chat says one thing that makes a giant difference is follow-up. Not just saying you're sorry, you know, really sorry for your loss is one thing.

Yeah. But showing that is that two weeks later you check in and go, how you doing? You're doing all right? You're staying hanging in there? Totally agree with that. Versus the checked box of, I've said the thing. Yeah, the check box thing

kind of sucks. Yeah. Kind of universally. Like, what's the point of, if you're not, that means you're not that sorry. Right. It means you're just sort of.

Well, it means you're, and okay, so I should not be defending the bad grievers, but, or the people's trying to support, is that that check box, what does that feel like for the person?

Yeah. It's like, oh, I got to say something, I got to do something. I do the thing. And they probably need to be left alone. You rationalize your choices as the right thing to do, usually, right? But when you've been through something, you know the follow-up matters.

You know, like, you've just experienced it. So you just have a different take. And I think, yeah, so checking in with people, I mean, I feel like one of the most powerful things to do is just ask. And that is hard, right? Because you, who knows? My favorite thing to do, I think I've talked about this on the show. but when someone I haven't seen a long time I run into and they've gotten divorced,

they feel like they need to tell me that they're divorced. And so then I have my patent answer, which is condolences or congratulations? And then they'll tell me. And they'll say, congratulations. And then I cheer and we're like, yay. Oh, I'm so glad you're free. Or they'll say condolences. And then I know.

And it's amazing how relieved they are. They are relieved, right? Now, obviously nothing is the pat answer you can do forever. There's no formula for everything. But part of that is just like, you know, meeting someone where they're actually at and genuinely caring really go a long way. But if you're in any of these categories of losing someone suddenly, losing someone by, you know, a difficult traumatic means or a child or, you know,

anyone you're really close to, I think it takes people a long time to realize they, probably need some help with it, that they don't have to do it alone. They are not alone. I mean, I remember when dad died, just like watching people around me going, how are you just moving on? Yeah. You're just driving around, like nothing happened. And I can only assume people have lost their loved ones to COVID are just on fire furious about. Yeah. Do you think like a decade, two decades from now, we're looking at like some of the worst mental health need, everyone should get therapy, what are we doing, kind of problems? Yeah, we don't have enough therapist.

It's not going to go on. It's how it feels. It does. It does because some of it, it's, it's current stuntedness or it's, you know, in embryo for a lot of these kids. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's not great.

And I do think, you know, those who are actively grieving the loss of loved ones. I mean, there's, I forgot the statistic in the United States alone. It's something like 120,000 kids have been orphaned. And orphaned for realsies, not a 70-year-old losing their 90-year-old mom. Yeah, it's not the same. You know? and it's yeah so that sort of collective collective grief we've never been great up we're really great at collective we're the winner if anyone sends me one of these toughen up buttercup emails i'm gonna freaking oh god i get these sometimes you do oh yeah just make your kids just raise resilient kids will be fine hello well how do you do that i don't know why does so many adults need therapy now how resilient give me a break yeah i know i'm i don't want to project what could happen because maybe nobody will,

but every time we have one of these things, I always get someone who's like, ah, you just slap a little dirt on it and get going. I always get one of those. That's fine, though. They exist. I'm glad it works. I mean, just a little dirt.

Yeah, a little dirt. Little dirt. Who knew that a little dirt would go so far as to solve all of your mental issues? Yeah, it's great. Well, all right. This has been fascinating, as always. I hope this helps a lot of people.

I notice a bunch of people in the chat are either dealing with some of this in their their own lives are adjacent to them and made a lot of people think and that's what we're looking for. Well, they just want to be prepared, yeah. Yeah. So I hope that helps.

Wendy, is there anything else going on you want to talk about? I mean, you're physically here, so I feel like we should say, I don't know, we should give you a bigger platform today. Yeah, you should give me a better chair. You showed up. Yeah, you showed up.

You came across the country. You came all the way here from the Midwest. Oh, the way. Yeah. I saw Colorado. I saw. Do you see Kansas? Is this?

No. But Nebraska. My gosh, people. Yeah. It's big empty, nothing. It's so flat. But I love their tagling. Nebraska.

No. Is it? It's not for everyone. Is it really? Yeah. That's really their tagging. Yeah. And it's accurate.

That's amazing. It's pretty great. Hold on. What's been there. There's great commercials that go along with that. Are there? I'd love to do. I will pimp something that is so unrelated to me or anyone I know.

All right. It's just a thing I saw. Okay. So we stopped in. Capitol Reef. Oh, yeah. And Capitol Reef, for those who've never been to Utah, is a perfect example of if this were anywhere else in the world,

it would be the highlight of that place because it is so beautiful. It's another planet. But here, where you have all the things, all the natural beauty, people are like, yeah, yeah, I've never been there. Yeah. Have you been there, Scott? I've been there, but it was forever ago.

And you don't remember. I don't. I wish I did. I mix it all in. I got Moab that. Goblin Valley, all that stuff fits in the same space. Totally. Well, Goblin Valley is on its way.

So we stopped in Gobbon Valley. We'd been there, we were there, let's see, 12 years ago. So we did some before and after pictures. So we have like Abe standing on one of the goblins with his little cars hat, little kid, and then we had him recreate it. And he's six foot three now. He's doing the same face. It's pretty funny.

That's pretty great. So we had a good time. Anyway, so we were in Capitol Reef having a great time. And we stayed at this cute little house. And there was a book on the shelf. and it's called subpar parks by Amber Shere. And it's America's Most Extraordinary National Parks and their least impressive visitors.

And so she took one-star reviews. And can the camera see this if I flip it? Oh yeah, hold on. Let me turn to you. Okay, go ahead. And here's the one for Capitol Reef. Do you can say that? Oh, yeah, there you go.

Somewhat bland. Wow. So what she did was she does that beautiful art that you're kind of used to seeing the national parks in, know, and then just put these reviews. My favorite was, Yosemite. It's like, the trees obscure the view, and there's way too many gray rocks. People really do that?

And then Minnesota has one national park called Voyagers, and this is my, like, what's wrong with folks? Anyway, the review said, there was nobody here. Like, isn't that the dream of the point? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, this is why you go. It's very funny. Anyway, so it's great art with hilarious taglines from the least impressive.

visitors. And then she goes through and talks about how actually amazing these things are. Yeah. Well, it's really, um, that place is beautiful. It is beautiful. Now you need to look up Fern's Nipple because I think, yeah, it would be the highlight of your trip. Hold on. Fern's Nipple. Yeah. You barely had the words out and he was already Google. Hiking Fern's Nipple. Capital Reef, road trip. So did you guys do this? Did you hike this? We were across from it and got some pretty great pictures. You know how you can just pinch. Yeah. It was pretty funny. It was beautiful.

I wish I had the video to share with you. Oh, it looks like a big nipple. It does, yeah. Okay. I just want to know who Fern is. Yeah. Yeah, was it a lady with somebody's lady friend or? I don't know, but it's pretty funny.

Oh, my gosh. You know, that looks just like Fern's Nipple. I think we just call it that, Bill. Here it is. Look, there's a big giant nipple, everybody. Isn't that funny? Oh, my gosh. Okay, so there's a huge hike we went on in at the top you could see Fern's nipple pretty good.

But there's also, you know, the arches. there was an arch that you had to look down at. So it was pretty freaky. So we're all sitting there observing it. It's kind of freaky. If you're scared of heights, I don't think you'd love it. And there's a couple of people we don't know sitting nearest.

And Abe goes and walks across the top of the arch. He'll do that. So it looks, from our vantage point, like he's on a needle's edge. I mean, it's scary to watch him do this. And then he's got, you know, his 16-year-old dope himself and his sweater sweatshirt. And he's just kind of walking. And then all of a sudden he jumps off the edge. Oh my gosh.

And we all scream. Because you all thought he was jumping off the edge edge. Yes, except I know my child. So I didn't really think it. And then he waits a second, then he pops up. Yeah. And there was another 10 foot ledge you can't see from our vantage point. So it was quite the feat.

So we made him do it again. Yeah. Do it again. But didn't some like stand by, some walkers by see this or something? Oh, all of us thought for sure this kid's dead now. And Adam actually had to walk away because he has a good imagination. I clearly don't because I'm like, that was great. Do it again.

Yeah, that sounds like you. This is a trick Wendy would have pulled with my dad. Totally. One of the stories Wendy told, by the way, that story is different than I remember. But Wendy went on it. We thought it was a date. Wasn't it a date? It was two friends of yours.

Oh, yeah. Mom told it. That's why. Oh, mom told it wrong. Wendy was on a date. Mom's 82. She doesn't remember stuff. I know.

Bless her heart. She's on this date. But I don't know if I told you the story or if we've ever talked about it. How about I tell it's accurate? it. I will tell you what, if I hear it wrong one more time. Yeah, I don't want to tell it wrong. You do it. Okay. It's fast. Okay. So in high school, we're tricksters a little bit. We should have been studying, but instead we planned a fake kidnapping. Yep. So dad had this little sports coop thing. I forgot what it was.

Anyway, and we're like, ooh, can we use that? Well, what it was is we had three dates, three of us and our dates were all in my friend's big old, I don't know, it's like a beamer, this big old luxury sedan, go into the dance and we get a phone call like, you got to go deliver a package. It was her dad. So we had our parents in on this. Parents do anything for their youngest children, I'm telling you right now. They do.

Anyway, yeah. So calls, we're like, okay, we got to meet someone at the base of the canyon. So we go to this parking lot. It's dark. It's like 10 p.m. We're in our dresses. We're still like in a kind of fancy dress situation. And my friend Robin asked me to deliver this package to,

this guy in a trench coat over by a red sports car, which was dad. Okay. And Robin was in on this? Yeah, yeah. Of course. All the girls were. And he has got a goatee. Yeah.

Right? He looked bigger and badder than he is. Yeah. Anyway. So I walk over in my little dumb dress and I hand him this, we put powdered sugar and wrapped it in brown paper. I mean, it was a movie, dude. To look like cocaine.

Yeah. And he acted like he opened it and then he threw it on the ground. And then he had the trunk open. And so I jump in the trunk. He kind of lifts me, but it looks like he throws me into the trunk. Like slammed you into the trunk, yeah. And you have the seats down, so I just like pop out in the car. Anyway, and we peel out and our dates are losing their minds because they're thinking their date just got kidnapped.

Anyway, and then it extends to another location, and I'm in the trunk, fake tied up really poorly. It's very obvious. I was not tied up. And my dad was gone at that point, and so they get me out of the car and I come limping back into the car. It's so stupid That's awesome It's so stupid I love it

I feel like you can't do that today Oh no way First of all I don't think of how parents behave I know Yeah they'd lose their minds First of all cool parents And then other parents are like

Whatever you're doing I don't care Yeah yeah Anyway So it was really stupid and funny And the best part was 15 years later I'm talking to somebody

Who went to the University of Utah And she goes Hey have I ever told you This really crazy story I dated this guy Who went at the U and one time he drove me around Salt Lake and told me about the night

his date got kidnapped. I was like, wait a minute, did the boys ever know? Did they ever? Oh yeah, we told them eventually. And then we went to a big party

where lots of people were and I never saw them again. They walked around and retook because that is a post-traumatic response. Oh, they were mad at you. Not mad, just you got to talk that through 84 times.

And then mom told this story the next day. So these guys were like kind of cheerleader young or like small dudes. We did not pick big. dudes for this event because we thought they could actually hurt someone. Yeah. You don't want dad ended up in a hospital. I know, right? Anyway, they were very funny. One was like a total jokester and real tubby. He was Uncle Tubby. Really funny guy. And the other two were a little like I could beat both of them up. Anyway, they were lovely people and they were a lot of fun. But they

came to our house the next day with their friend who was the center on the football team. Just because they needed to meet dad. And then they, of course, met dad and had a great laugh. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. I love that story. that's the 90s baby if you think the 90s was awesome it was 90s 80s and 90s uh things we did the things differently okay you kids out there born millennial types sorry it's sorry it's just gen x sorry that our our forefathers including us have ruined everything for you yeah we've screwed it up but you'll do you got this we believe in you truly we do yeah help us retire all right um hey uh i guess we're done windy uh real steps dot org people should go there sign up

check it out read it find out all about it uh new wave already happening right it's happening now. It's happening right now. Okay. So a lot of people already probably been notified if they're in, right? They've been doing it for three weeks. They've been doing it for three weeks. They are fully aware of what's going on. They are fully aware. These are just for new people to get information and feel free to ask questions. We'd love you to join us. We'll do another one in the fall. We've really we're sticking to spring and fall and making them longer. So anyway, you've got time. It'll be great. You know what I forgot to do while you're here is this. Oh, yeah. Better late than never. Yes. Right? There we go.

Can't help people know, oh, this is the Wendy segment. I wondered who this was this whole time. Now, do me a technical favor. When you go upstairs, will you turn that light off on your way out? And then I'll come see you at a minute after we're done. Sounds good. All right. Thanks, Wendy for being here.

It was great having you. Bye, everybody. See you. Bye, later. All right. There she goes. There she goes again. That's that song.

There she goes again. All right. Let's see what we got left here. Really enjoyed that discussion. That was fun. Yeah, it was great. Um, where are we now? Oh, I guess we're done. This is it. Okay, tomorrow, play date. Playdate at 1 p.m. Mountain time, not the normal two o'clock, okay? Because Brian's going to go early, so he's got lots of room for his other show. It's all going to be great. Okay. I still don't know what we're playing. Should we just decide now? What do you want to do?

Let's say among us. Okay. We didn't do, we did jackbox and what the dub last time. Let's just say, Claire, get off our backs. We'll play among us. Yeah. Put your caps key away. Let's, let's pretend it's a. a St. Patrick's Day present for you. That's right. I know Talley would be happy. There's a lot of people who love to. It'll be great, okay? So we're all going to get together tomorrow, 1 p.m., play a little bit,

have some fun, hang out with each other. This weekend film, Sack, we're doing a watch-along of a Night Rider episode to prepare for some people being gone and stuff. But you can hear me talk way too much about how everything's filled in Utah. You can get all sick of that. What else? That's it.

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Coverville, and MorningStream. And while you're out it, we do have a pretty active Reddit page. Lots of folks over there at frogpants.reddit.com. So I go check. I had lunch with the Mayuse this last weekend and we talked about because I think he's he initially set up both of our Reddit pages I believe so yeah did a great job still still has the keys to the car as it were he does yeah he's dangling him and saying yoink and how are they doing I've seen

them in so long I'm sure they're doing great they're doing really really well yeah they got little little ones now a couple of them right two little ones one that's less little like almost as tall as Josh oh my gosh I know and that's Gabe and then a much younger one But they're just the cutest kids. They didn't bring them to lunch, but we got to see photos and hear all about them. Oh, of course. We wiped out a boat full of sushi. Oh, good.

Good. That is the job of sushi lovers everywhere. Wipe out that boat. Yep. And eat that buggers slide. Sink that boat. Sink that sushi boat. No oysters on this on this boat.

Oh, you good. You didn't ruin that friendship then. Just kidding. Oysters and sushi. Oysters aren't sushi. Yeah, but they don't. How would they go to? Do you think they go together at all?

Like, would you want to have a meal that featured both sushi and oysters? Oh, I would absolutely eat a meal that included both oysters and sushi. But you usually can't get oysters, well, can you? I don't know. Can you get oysters at a sushi restaurant? I don't know if you can. I've never tried because I was thinking of them as like, nope, you go to a raw bar for oysters, clams, muscles, crab, that sort of thing.

And then you go to a sushi bar for sushi. And the two, just for whatever reason, I separate. I think you're right. I think there are places that try to do everything for everyone, but you don't want those oysters. You probably don't want those oysters. Yeah, don't eat those oysters. But do listen to the song Brian's about to play because it's going to be great

and we're all going to dance and smile and love each other. It is going to be great. Oh, we haven't played pompomous on this show in a long time. Birch, a.k.a. the Lost Phantom when he's here in chat says, Hey, Scott and Brian, today is my 22nd birthday. And I thought it was finally time to get a song request in. I've been an avid listener to pretty much all of the Frog Pants show since back when I was still in high school in 2015.

And this is the first time I've ever written into any of them. I appreciate all you guys do. especially with the consistency of TMS. They make the bad days less bad and the good days even better. My requested song is a cover of one of my favorite songs. Once in a lifetime, the Talking Head song, pompomouse adds a very nice extra layer of insanity to an already insane sounding song.

Thanks, you guys, signed Birch. Nice. So true. Cool name, by the way. Birch is a cool name. Totally. Hey, Birch. How you doing, man?

Yeah, totally. Yo, Birch. Oh, that's cool. Birch. Yeah. Yo, Birch. Here's what's interesting about this cover. It's one of the rare pompomou songs, at least in my knowledge, that not only features Natalie

Dawn's vocals, she's on every single one of them, but also includes Jack Conti's vocals, and you usually don't hear him. He's doing all the instrumentation, and he's busy, you know, co-founding Patreon and all that. Yeah, he's busy producing and making a giant company out of nothing. And doing like three other bands, scary pockets. and all these other things. He's all over the damn place. Here are Pomplamoose

and their cover of the talking heads once in a lifetime. Sounds good. We'll be back. Like we said, for the play date this weekend, back Monday with regular shows and lots of other stuff.

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