The Morning Stream - TMS 2265: It's a Go for Goo!

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

From Nicole's Throne I Stab At Thee. 1, 2,3,4...NINE. My Girl Looks Poor. double sandwich of lame. IT'S THE FINAL PROOF OF CONCEPT! Go Bite a Toad. Dracula Frontwise Is Dracula. Processed Cheese &... Pants! Thank You, Refrigerator. Nobody wants a Whorenado. A Vat Full of Resin Makes the Print Go Smooth. David Bowie Did COVID, Prove It You Can't! Inventing Accents. Slate Gray Hat hackers with Tom. Recycling Recommentals, with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning Stream. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up on TMS, from Nicole's throne, I stab at thee. One, two, three, four, nine. My girl looks poor. Double sandwich of lame. It's the final proof of concept. Go bite a toad. Dracula frontwise is Dracula. Process cheese and pants.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Thank you, refrigerator. Nobody wants a horrido. A vat full of resin makes the print go smooth. David Bowie did COVID. Prove it, you can't. Inventing accents. Slate gray hat. Hackers with Tom. Recycling recommendals with Randy and more on this episode of The Morning
Starting point is 00:00:35 Stream. But let me tell you what really concerns me. The legacy of the lepracons. These little people are little demons. Minions of Lucifer. When people come to me for an encounter, whether it's virtual or in person, I always look to see if they have iris somewhere in their heritage. If you want to wear grain that's all right but beware the leprechauns why are you standing weird stand normal okay the morning stream it's totes fat hello everybody welcome back to the morning stream it is TMS for Wednesday, March 23rd, 2022. Lots of 20s. Welcome back. Hi, it's good to see you. I'm Scott, and that's Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi, Scott. And that intro right there goes to Connor. I'm now, uh, I can now delete that request from the request page. Yeah, get that out of there. It's now back in the rotation. So,
Starting point is 00:01:43 there you go. Tristan, uh, Justin came over yesterday and he said, hey, you know that, that heavy, you know, guitar intro that you guys do for TMS. It always weirds me out that, that my son listens to TMS. Yeah, that is weird. Very weird. Because, you know, I don't know. Maybe it shouldn't. Maybe there's stuff on here that I don't care if he hears. But he said, oh, man, he pulled up a Weezer song, and he said, that song kind of sounds like this Weezer song, and he played one.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I can't remember which one it was. But the intro, then he played it for me, and it's like, oh, yeah. If you just look at the chord progression, the da-na-na-na-na-na-da-you-n-you-n-n-you, like the speed of it, then it does kind of, there's a Weezer song that it does kind of sound like. And I wish I wrote down which one it was. I want to know. Now I want to know so I can poke Bo and say, did you lift this from a Weezer song? I'm sure he didn't.
Starting point is 00:02:36 There's no way. Doesn't seem like a thing he'd do. Anyway, I'll have to ask him to tell me and we can play it and you can do a little compare and contrast tomorrow on the show or something. And since he's listening, it sounds like he listens. Hey, if you're listening right now, Tristan, get on it, buddy. Maybe he only listens so he can hear that great impression of his, mother. Maybe that's the point. Maybe that's exactly right. He's, uh, he's strongly considering coming to
Starting point is 00:02:59 Vegas. Oh, nice. That'll be good. Like, dude, jump on it because tickets ain't getting any cheaper, air ferry ain't getting any cheaper. No, that stuff never gets cheaper. Although, I know there's deals once in a while. There was some, uh, round trip to New York one off for like 150 bucks, but it meant you had like four stops. And I thought, that's not good. I ain't doing four of those. to save some money on a trip. That sounds nightmarish. Forget it. I booked another trip for Tina and I, and she does listen, so I can't say
Starting point is 00:03:31 on the show where we're going. Right. Because it's a mystery date weekend. I planned the first time I've ever done this, I planned an entire like, guess what? We're packing up. You're going somewhere, but I'm not telling her where. I'm going to tell her what to pack. Oh, she'll be in a
Starting point is 00:03:47 gondola in Venice before you know it. Yeah. Oops, I've let it slip. Oh, no. Well, there is one of in Las Vegas. Oh, no, what did they say? Just kidding. It's neither of those places. Good. But that's coming up in May, and
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'll have to post something on the TMS. I think there's going to be ample time for a meetup, and I know there's a lot of people that live in that part of the country, so it might be really good to do a meetup there. So you're saying it's in the States. I'm saying it's, oh, geez, I've already given part of it away.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, you've given it. Now there's a 1 in 50 chance. she's going to guess. Well, yeah. Well, one in 49 of Texas. I'm not going to say, yeah, we're, I'll say it's out of Colorado. We're not going to Colorado. Okay. I can take that one out of the running.
Starting point is 00:04:37 All right. It'll be one out of possibly 48 since Texas wants out sometimes. Sometimes they want out of here, so maybe we'll lose their way then. Plus we're doing Texas Friday. Oh, that's right. They'll still be a state by then, so you're good. Yeah, yeah. We just did California.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So we're not doing California again. and we can take Nevada out because we were doing Vegas. Oh, man, we're narrowing it down. We're in the low 40s now. I know, exactly. The show's still I've been figured out in no time. Well, anyway, that's awesome. I had another dream last night, and I looked through the cards.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Couldn't find anything comparable, so we're just going to have to groove on this one. Nicole, our old pal Nicole, used to do recommendals on Wednesday, now Randy does them. So today's a good day that this happened or happened last night. but Nicole was in this dream and for some reason she was in I don't know there's always chairs and thrones in my dreams but she's in a throne oh that's got to be something I must be right because it's consistently happening it's happening all the time but she's in this throne like a throne room and it's a weird setup where there's a door on the left and a door on the right and people are just filing in and then filing out after they passed the throne or at least that's what I thought the beginning of the dream it just seemed like they maybe were walking through to give the queen her her quick whatever penance or whatever and then out the other door. I don't know what. Right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 But they all the people in this line were me and you and Tom and jury and everybody in our circles. All the TMS producers. It's almost like one of those nerdtacular photos where we have all of us lined up and then Nicole's at the front accepting us. And it's even
Starting point is 00:06:17 a few others like receiving line exactly. And it's got you know, Garrett's there, Jocelyn's there, like all these connected people. Jenny Josephson was there and her husband, all in this dream,
Starting point is 00:06:28 lining up to do this. And what I thought was, just come up and go, ah, all hail the queen, and then move out the next door. What happened is you would walk up to her, she would put her hand on your shoulder
Starting point is 00:06:40 with her left hand. Yeah. And then with her right hand, she had a knife, and she would like slam it right into your neck, right here. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:50 slam it into your neck, hold it there for a second, pull it out, and you weren't dead, you were now officially like her, I don't know, blood slave or something, you're like a zombie, and then you shamble out the door on the right. And that was the, that was the thing. And it, and the whole thing, and it seemed like it was just happening one after another. I had my turn. I think it may have woke up right around after my turn, but I watched, I watched you, for example, get stabbed in the neck and then watched you shamble out.
Starting point is 00:07:20 the door all just Nicole and she smiled the whole time just had a grin on her face like shunk send you on your way shunk send you on your way yeah it's really weird man really weird yeah maybe i maybe i shouldn't have watched a brand new cherry flavor maybe i shouldn't watch that's the thing yeah you know you always got to like trace it back to the weird crap that we watch and what um what what kind of influence that has because uh i'm surprised last night i didn't have dreams of my colonel uh dying over the sea of japan there were no survivors because that's the damn episode i just watched of that show oh it's hard man that's a hard one oh yeah still hard it's still really really that's a really affecting thing on uh in television history it's more affecting now
Starting point is 00:08:08 really knowing that it's coming yeah than it was at the time i don't think i saw that episode live it wasn't it wasn't until like later seasons that i started watching mash regularly on that little black and white box cube TV I had in my room. But that whole episode, you know, you watch him talking to his wife and you watch him going out to that Japanese bar with Trapper and Hawkeye and Radar and you're just saying, oh, my God, he's going to die. You're about to die. Oh, this sucks.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It really does suck. I kind of hate that episode, but I also respect it for how affecting it is, especially for a show that was supposed to be comedic, mostly. Anyway, well, now you're about to turn a real corner because not only that, but freaking once his name was like, me, I'm out of here. I don't like my contract. Trapper's like, yeah, they do the best thing you kind of alluded to it last week when we were talking about it. But it's like, oh, by the way, while you're in Tokyo, hot guy, Trapper, you know, got the call.
Starting point is 00:09:11 He got to go home. So he left about 10 minutes ago. Yeah. He left off while he were gone. Exactly. we couldn't get a contract negotiation signed with him, so he's out and Mike Farrell's in. Yeah, and he'll be kind of a nerd at first, but then he'll puke on the way home and then you'll get drunk and make fun of Frank. Of course, that's what you remember of PJ's introduction.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah, it's all I remember is he hurled out in the field because he was like, I can't just let this body go and he lifted it up and it was all gross and he barfed. Right, right. And not just barfed, he was like. He was even, and Hawkeye does the weirdest thing. he goes over there almost like he's like a starting wrestling move. You know how you start in that wrestling move where you put your arm around the stomach. Like he's almost helping push the barf out of him or something. Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's a very odd. I understand. Watching that, I did get that because I watched that. I couldn't just stop watching after Blake died. I had to watch the two-parter of BJ's introduction. Yeah, you got to keep going. That's an important connection there. It is.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It is. All right. Real quick here. I'll talk to Nicole. I haven't told her about this yet, but I'll pass it by her. You'll have to, like, message her and say, hey, who was the stream I had? What do you think? Now, before we do anything else, I have to register a complaint.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh, no. I have this heater over here. I love, by the way. I love this new complaint. Oh, you like it. This new complaint segment of TMS. I get to start coming up with complaints because I'm sure I've got some. People seem to enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So back here, I got this space heater. Okay. It's one of these Costco. dishes, you know the ones? It's like a dish with like a mesh in front of it. Like you could, if you put it on its back, it could probably cook a hot dog. Yes. Yes, it looks
Starting point is 00:10:56 like a grill. That's a good way of putting it. It also makes a horrible sound if you bump and remove it while it's on, which is good. It's supposed to, you know, keeps you safe or whatever. Sure. Anyway, we thought this would be the one to have in here because in the winter my basement studio is kind of cold, not
Starting point is 00:11:12 horrible, but cold enough where it's nice to have a little extra heat. And we don't want to blare the heat down here all day just to keep this room warm. So in the summer, it's no problem. It's nice and cool down here. I love it. But in the winter, I kind of want to have this little thing around. This has settings from low, so there's off, low, medium, high, and then lots of little analog in between. Okay. All right. It, if, if I put it on high, I die. It's too high. It cooks you basically. It cooks me. If I put it on medium, which you should, in theory be the happy place, the happy medium.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah. It's not hot at all. Like I can barely... Really? And what is low? Is low like... Low is nothing. Low may as well be off.
Starting point is 00:11:57 It may as well be off. It may as well be off when it's on low. So I guess what I'm saying is I effed up. I shouldn't have got this one. I don't know what kind to get. I need something with more... I don't know. Like a...
Starting point is 00:12:09 But you said there's like analog between them, right? Can you put it halfway between medium and... Hi? Well, right now, that's where it's at, and I'm cold. And it's right here. It's like right there by me. So it's almost like, this is such a deep cut. Nobody is going to get it, but it's like Jenny Josephson, Jenny Josephson's microphone when we do A&T. Yes, yes. But no one will actually, I mean, Jenny Josephson would get that joke and Bobby will get that joke. Yeah. That poor mind. Yeah, but I know exactly what you're saying. Like, it goes like, one, two, three, four. nine yes yes it's like that imagine well the jenny mic's the exact imagine if you're listening to music and the only settings where you know i got drums in my head and they won't go you know what i mean like it's stupid so costco i know look you make toilet paper and you make chili so i already know you're odd ends with each other over there okay i get it but maybe make a better heater this one's a
Starting point is 00:13:16 when, oh no, it's not Kirkland. It's not made by the same company that makes processed cheese and pants. No, no, but they let's see here. Presto, it's called Presto. Presto. Yeah, they make toasters.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Don't they? I think Presto makes toasters as well. Do they really? I might have better luck with a toaster sitting close to me. Yeah. It's freaking effed. I have, mine is a Dyson, so it's the, um,
Starting point is 00:13:44 it looks like the long open fan without a blade kind of thing inside and it pumps out hot but the problem here's the problem it does great and it's got a bunch of settings it's even got a little remote that I can use anytime I want to adjust it very nice little magnetic remote that sits on top of when I'm not using it yeah but the problem is that it um it's a fan so it's constantly making noise I don't know how it works with no blades but somehow it pumps air out of there so it the minuscule adjustments are great but the unfortunately the heating or the the noise is something I can't use while we're doing a show so I can warm it I can warm it up in here pre show post show but during show let's hang some meat okay so we got a pick from the wire cutter who I often trust thank you for the link JC Calhoun of course put this in here Jesse Calhoun they say that the one to get is the Vornado VH 200 best space heater available seven
Starting point is 00:14:43 Sure, the Vornado. Yeah, the Vornado. Currently, 70 bucks. That looks like a major fan. Most my least favorite sci-fi channel movie. It just was horrible. With Ian Zering and Tara Reid, it was just horrible. That's a really bad.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Nobody wants Vornado on their DVDs. See, that looks like it's a similar situation, right, where it's a fan, so it's going to be making noise. It'll probably work as far as the heat. Yeah, it says it's quieter than other fan-based ones, but that tells me it's still got sound to it. You know what I mean? Too much sound is. I mean, I want no sound. which is why I got this one, because this dish is all about radiating heat, not blowing it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And that's probably why this is a problem, because it's not spreading the heat. It's just, you know how a fire is when you're camping. It's like, well, if I'm in the tent or way up the street, I can see the fire, but I ain't feeling it. You get up close to the fire and like, oh, okay, here we go. And if I got up close to that, sure, I would feel it. But I don't know. Did you see that one that's a little ways down? It's another Vornado.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's the OSC-T-H-1. It looks like that thing that everybody was touching on the album cover Presence by Led Zeppelin. Oh my gosh, you're right. Look at that thing. That's actually kind of cool looking. It is really cool, like it, yeah. Obelisk shaped. Yeah, with a little twisty.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh, it oscillates. That's cool. Yeah. I wish it oscillated in the shape. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I want that to be a flexible rubber, like, ring. Oh, like the bass. stays and he goes
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Like a little CGI stick. That'd be cool. Yeah. Like it belonged on Matthew McConaughey's ship in that movie where
Starting point is 00:16:21 Hold on. Interstellar. That's the movie. Yes, exactly. Where he cries. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. I actually like that movie.
Starting point is 00:16:31 All right. All right. I like that movie a lot, but some people don't like it. I like interstellar. Yeah. Whatever. It's science fiction.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I like it. all. All right, there's my complaint. Remember, we were talking yesterday about 3D prints, and you were talking about, well, yeah, if you got a filament printer, like sometimes you come back down and you've got spaghetti all over the place because your print came unhinged from the plate and it spewed filament all over the place. What kind of things can go wrong with resin? And I said, well, you know, there's issues where it doesn't, like the, what should we call it, the stands, the supports, don't hold and your model just drops into
Starting point is 00:17:13 the vat. There was one other thing that could go wrong, Scott, and as you know, I've been printing this Khyber crystal holder, and I sent you a text with two photos. Oh yeah, look at these here. That you can pull up. Here's what happens if you don't put
Starting point is 00:17:29 enough resin in the vat, and you come back downstairs in the morning after 13 hours of printing and How would you know that it wasn't enough? Like, is it Is that supposed to be an obvious thing? Or like, how did you know that it wasn't enough resin for what you were doing?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Oh, because the resin vat was completely empty when I came downstairs. But I mean, I guess, sorry, let me reverse the question. Are you, would you know what volume to use with a piece like this? Or is that just a guess? It's a guess. It's an educated guess. And the problem is that when I did, I did a couple test prints where I just printed a portion of it so that I could put the light through it and see.
Starting point is 00:18:11 if it fits and if it sends enough light and if the holes were big enough to hold the crystals and all that. And I didn't refill the vat after doing those prints. And what I need to do also is maybe about three quarters of the way through check, make sure there's enough goo in there, maybe even halfway through check and see if there's enough goo. So, yeah, the reason it looks all jagged, which is really cool when you think about it, this thing prints at an angle, right? So it's like it prints this part first. And as the plate lifts up, it builds more and more of this thing.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And that goo is just sitting there on the bottom of the plate. It disappears from one side of it because it's really thick. And then as it comes up, it's like, all right, I've used up all the goo here. There's still some goo here. So we'll just keep printing on that side. Stephanie asks a very good question. Why do you print at an angle instead of flat? With resin prints, you don't want to print.
Starting point is 00:19:09 um like a flat surface because the weight of of that flat surface carrying more goo up will act as like a a weight that could pull your model off the supports that makes total sense to me you distribute the weight by or the physics of the weight by moving into the to the this is a really sharp angle though I'm surprised how sharp it's a very sharp angle the other reason for that with this specific model is that it's a big uh it's a big print and it's wider than my plate um this thing is 200 millimeters long and my the length of my plate is pretty is like you know 180 or something yeah so i've got to rotate it but as you rotate it you know you've got your it's think of it like a candy bar as you rotate it now now the corners jut out past that space so you have to
Starting point is 00:20:02 move it up a little bit more i see yeah so do you just toss this in and melt it down again or is No, no, it's done deal. The benefit of that, though, is now I've got a piece I can test, and I have it here, right here, in front of me, and so I can actually turn it on for you. Oh, okay, so you've got at least a testing bay here. Right, exactly. Let me turn it on. There we go.
Starting point is 00:20:28 All right, so you can see, I've got a napkin wrapped around it to cut off the other amount of light. Yeah, censored. You can see if I set a crystal on top of it, it fits the, light beautifully. Yeah. And that crystal glows, baby. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That's cool. Proof of concept. Not a total failure, I say. Not a total failure. You know, it's like, all right, now I know that this thing will print successfully. And that's exactly what it's going to do tonight. That's awesome. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's going to be another 13 hours. I didn't know with resin you couldn't reuse the stuff if it was a goof. Yeah. It's a, you know, with filament, you kind of can. There are machines that will break. it down into pellets and then you can re, like you can reform those pellets into strands, but it's
Starting point is 00:21:14 not, it loses a little bit of its integrity in doing that. But, yeah, so here's the fun piece. It's like, this looks like, you know, like a derelict should be floating in space or something. Yeah, exactly. Ah, the can't, never
Starting point is 00:21:30 forget the can't or whatever it was in the expanse. Right, exactly. Floating out there. All those bodies, man. Well, all right. That's cool, though. Night before I go to bed, this one should be done. But I'm going to check it at the end of my workday, right after dinner. And I'll just make sure that there's enough goo in there.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Cool. Should be good. It should be, should be pretty good. Tomorrow we'll have another look at it. Another piece to look at it should be the final. I won't say the final piece. It'll be the final proof of concept. And then I start adding some Star Wars accoutrements.
Starting point is 00:22:08 to it. The only other question I'd have is did it take is long or longer than you thought it would, even though it misprinted, did it, did the time end up being what you thought it would be? Yeah. Yeah, because it's a, here's the other thing that's interesting about 3D prints or about resin versus filament.
Starting point is 00:22:24 If you, let's say your filament plate is six by six, six inches by six inches. Yeah. Pretty similar. I think a Prusa or Ender 3 is a little bit bigger than that. But you print a little tiny cube on there. um it'll take less time to print a little cube as it would a big cube because the the head just has to move around a little bit
Starting point is 00:22:46 oh okay um but if i'm printing a tall skinny object versus a fat a tall fat object it takes the same amount of time on a resin printer because it takes the same amount of time to cure each layer right so the closer you can make all that stuff to the plate um the better yeah so printing this Like if I could, if I could print it as close to like this angle as possible, it would take less time to print than if I printed it vertically like this. Yeah, because you have those, because you have the stilts basically, it has to cure and print as well. Exactly, exactly, all the supports and stuff. So it does, you know, it takes the same amount because it has to do, this is layer one and I'm curing whatever size of the thing it is. Then I'm going up to layer two.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. Well, let us know when you start your sex toy business. I'm looking forward to it. We'll do. Yeah, exactly. You'll watch that. You'll watch the items go up like that. I'll watch them go up, but they always have to be at an angle. Speaking of sex toys, this guy's here. Joining us today, Mr. Brian Dunaway, as always, Mondays and Wednesdays are his days. They're my days.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh, hi, Scott and Brian. Oh, hi. Good to have you back. How are you? How are you feeling? Hi, Brian. It's good. It's good. I just talked to Scott just a scant 12 hours ago. Yeah, and we were saying on that episode, episode that it felt like it'd been too long since we talked. And now it feels too soon. This is too short. Yeah, it's too soon.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I need the baby bears just right porridge. No kidding. What is that distance? Like three days between talking to Scott? Let's see. What is the longest you go without talking to me? I think it is. What's the ideal?
Starting point is 00:24:27 What's the... Is there an ideal? I don't want to know what that is. That makes me nervous. Event horizon. Well, I think what Brian is saying is five days is too long. One day is too short. What's the ideal?
Starting point is 00:24:38 I can't think of a single time since 2005 that me and Scott haven't talked at least once a week. Oh, easily. I don't think we've ever had a week go by. Two weeks if you're lucky, but I can't think of one. I think it's been every week. And with I bit here since easily 08, probably, same thing. And even more compounded because it's every damn day, pretty much. Every day.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Obviously, when I was gone in Ireland for 10 days, we didn't talk. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Once in a while, escape happens. True. The point is we... Sometimes the spaceship gets out of Jupiter's orbit for just a moment. Just for a moment.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So we must really like each other then. Good, good. Yeah, yeah. I think everybody likes each other just fine, which is nice. Oh, weird. Chrome. Why are you asking to use my mic again, you big dummy? All right.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Hey, we've got a listener on the line. Let's find it who's playing with us today. Let's see who this is. Hi, who's this? Hey, it's Stephanie. Well, hello, Stephanie. How are you? How are you feeling today? I'm doing pretty well.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I've been getting up early last few days, and I've been tuning into all the live streams. Oh, very nice. Well, you're always welcome. Glad to have you here. You get to maybe win some stuff today. So, hey, Brian, why don't you explain to Stephanie and the rest of us how this works? Yes, swim your mermaid costume over here, and time to play the tadpooly feud. I've surveyed the tadpull on some nerdy topics.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Scott and Breyer, you're going to have to predict the answers that they gave us. It's their job to see how many of those answers they can guess. Now, Stephanie, let's not wait, Kyle up. Your job is more important than ever because you're going to be working with either Scott or Brian. And if your team wins, you get a prize package. That includes, oh, this is good, Borderlands 3, as well as the Directors Cut DLC. So it is a great Borderlands 3 collection right here. Name brand game.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Look at that. Yeah, too. Fancy-A title. Big thanks to Wesley for sending this one over. Yeah, thanks, Wesley. You're the best. You don't already have Borderlands 3, do you? I am not the gamer, so that would be a Kyle question.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, well, he'll get Kyle. Wait Kyle up and ask him if he's ever played Borderlands. Kyle, get up. Kick him in the leg. I'll just surprise him if I win. All right. There you go. Very good.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That'll be great. He may already have it, but even if he does, that is, I finally picked it up. It's a good game. It's a good time. Yeah, I gave it, I let it sit too long before I played it, and I'm sad because it's very good. I've never, I've never played it. Yeah, you might like it.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Maybe it's yours today, maybe. I thought, I thought, but I decided that's, no, I couldn't do that. I've got too much to play already. Have you played any of the Borderlands games? No. Oh, they're so good. So good. And it seems like stuff I like, you know, I like that kind of, that kind of open world quest
Starting point is 00:27:29 kind of stuff, but. Do you like annoying robots who talk too much? Oh, yeah, right. That's where the robot that Builder and built. Yes. Clap trap's annoying. He's the worst part of those games.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But he's amazing. No, he's the worst. But he's the worst. But he's the best. But he's the worst. But he's the best. Well, this sounds great. I think Kyle will be very happy with these wins. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Well, to win, you need a topic. And let's give our boys a topic here. Please put your hands on your buzzers. We surveyed the 553 members of the Tadpool. and only the penitent of them passed. Here's your question. What is your favorite quote from an Indiana Jones movie?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Oh, son of a. Scott. We name the dog, Indiana. All right. Show me, we name the dog, Indiana. That's my favorite one. Number two. That's number two.
Starting point is 00:28:25 One of them, one answer will beat it. Brian, do you have... Throw me the idol. I'll throw you the whip. All right. The Dr. Octopus, saying that one right. there show me throw me the idol i'll throw you the whip oh man oh spit my coffee out i was
Starting point is 00:28:43 like 100% who doesn't have that is it's like a lot of people yes nine people said that one no time to argue throw me idle i throw you the whip it did come up but sadly did not make you people you're disappointing me yeah well you know they can do that uh well that means me and scott you and Stephanie, have control of the board. All right, Stephanie. Anything jump to your head? Oh, geez. I think I should wake Kyle up.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Now you're like, well, maybe Kyle should be awake for the... He's the huge Indiana Jones fan, and I refuse to watch it for, like, my whole life because I thought it was a Western, and I don't like Western. Wow. He's like, it's not a Western, and I'm like, okay, so we started watching it. But he's got a cowboy hat. He does kind of have a cowboy hat. Pat, and he has a whip, which is, you know, Western. Sure. I get that. I know one
Starting point is 00:29:35 in particular that problem, well, it's one I always say. I'm waking him up. Let's do bad dates. I'm going to wake him up. Yeah, she can wake him up. Who cares? While she's waking him up, I'm going to give us a win here and say, I hope it's a win. I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:29:51 bad dates, Indie. Bad dates. Bad dates. Okay. Okay. By the way, I almost, well, let's see if it's on there first. Show me bad dates. Yeah, number six. I almost went and found audio of all of these to play like, you know, right after the quote.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Oh, that would have so much to prepare for on Wednesdays. I did not have time to go through. Yeah, that's a bunch of work to go get those. As much as you wouldn't think it would be, it would be like, you've got to track down every scene for the most part. Sometimes YouTube has them. If you Google each of these, you find a YouTube clip that has them. Oh, that's true. With a movie this big, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Did you really wake up, Kyle? I really did. Oh, no. Poor Kyle, like, he works like a midnight, like a graveyard shift. Look, he's going to, she's stacking the deck in our favor. That's all. That's all. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You don't have any rules on the paper, on the books for two people doing a win. No, not at all. No, it can actually. It would totally be a team effort. All right. Sure. Then, okay, so we got bad dates. I know another one, but does Kyle, anything jump to Kyle's groggy face as he wakes up?
Starting point is 00:31:09 He says, this belongs in the museum. Is that a quote? Oh, it's in a museum, dad. Go back to sleep. Stop making me lose. Let's try that. Let's try that. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So the quote, you're saying the quote is, this belongs in a museum, dad. I don't know if the dad parts there. I always think it is, but. Yeah, I don't know about it. The dad part. All right. Show me any form of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It's just, it belongs a museum. He never even says it to Sean Connery. He only says it to Panama Hat guy. And then he also says it when he's River Phoenix in the train car. He basically says the same thing. It's a total Mandella effect. There is no, it belongs a museum, dad. I can tell you where I got it.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I think I found my Mandela source on that. Yeah, it was a stand-up. Median on an episode of Letterman, and he did a really good Harrison Ford voice. Yeah. Yeah. He did the whole sword dad thing, and it stuck with me. Couldn't give it. Here's what I did.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I found on DailyScript.com, the Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade script, and I search for every mention of the word museum. Yeah. Just put a link to it in the chat room. But I want to make sure because it's like, oh, wow, total Mendel effect. I thought that was a line, too. But again, it came from that guy to an great impersonation of Harrison Ford. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:26 How about snakes? why it'd it have to be snakes. How about that? Sakes, why it had to be snakes? Snakes. Why don't it have to be snakes? Uh, show me that one. Number one. Yep, right there.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Number one. Not the biggest points, though, so we got to... No, we let's do this. Yeah, we got to do this. That's number one and not... Uh, take another... What's, Kyle got another one at the ready? No, he said that's all he has.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We woke him up for that. If you look him up, he's like, leave you alone. I'm trying to slip. sleep. That's really funny. He was a good sport. He was a good sport. And this is all Indiana Jones movies, all three. Did you tell him what he was playing for? Just in case he said, oh, you know, I didn't. But I should have done that for motivation. He was just out of it. He had just gone back like an hour ago. So he had fallen asleep already. I feel really bad. It'll be fine. You guys will stay together. That's what matters. All right. Let's go ahead with the top men.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Top men. That's a good way. Yeah, that was a, what's his name? Faddy boys. Porkins. Yeah. Top men working on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah, Porkins. Show me. Top men. Oh, are you kidding me? Are you got to be kidding on the list. Popular, but not in the top ten. Wow. That blows my mind.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Ten. Top ten. Not of the top ten. Can we. All right. Can we still in 2022 say, no time for love, Dr. Jones? Yes. You can certainly say that.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like that and not in the, in the short round voice. Yeah. Sure. Let's say it like that. Show me no time for love, Dr. Jones. Dr. Jones. So this is also, isn't this also a Mandela effect? Because I think it's no time for romance, Dr. Jones.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I think you're right. Yeah. Oh, really? That one I did look up on the script. Let's see here. Hold on. No time for romance. I'm pretty sure unless he said both. And that's possible, too, I guess.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Hey, Dr. Jones, no time for love is what he says. No time for love. There you go. See, we've just always said it offensively. Yeah, you want to play it on the show, Scott? Yeah, do you have it handy there? I do. Yep, it's right there in your discord.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I'm going to play it real quick here. Hey, Dr. Jones, no time for love. Okay. There's another one later where he says something about romance. at the camp where the snake tries to eat what's her name, but I can't remember what's her name? Keep going. Maybe I'll get some freebies. Can you remember
Starting point is 00:35:03 any other ones there, Scott? Good point. You've got control. All right, you go now, Brian. You're winning. You're not winning, but you could win. You're playing. Oh, God, I'm trying to think of what the tap pool will say now because they're, they've kind of surprised me about the other ones. I'm going to go with my favorites,
Starting point is 00:35:21 which is something I say all the time. It's like X never, ever marks the spot, or something like that. I'm probably getting it wrong. Okay. Let's see. He says that he's in his instructor mode at the beginning of the last crusade. He has to eat it later, I think. Yeah. He does it marks the spot.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yep, all right. Show me X never, ever marks the spot. Oh, man. It's on there. It was number 23. 23 on the list? 23, yeah, on the list. Because then it does come back to bite him in the ass when he's inside the
Starting point is 00:36:00 thing in Venice because X does mark the spot. And that's the reason why I remember it's, I can't believe. It's such a great. Yeah. By the way, doing this TMS feud totally makes me want to go watch all the first three movies again. Yeah. So, wow. Did I get something different from these movies than the tadpool?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Because I feel like I'm not getting any of the book. The answer is, yes, you did. You got a very different thing. Maybe when you see these other answers, you'll say, oh, yeah, I forgot about how much I loved that line. Okay. All right. Now, I'm going to take, I'm going to, I'm going to do a bit of a wide,
Starting point is 00:36:33 a wide spray here with this one. Oh, okay. You're going to, like, you're going to give me eight minutes of dialogue from the movie. No, no, no, no, no. No, this one's just going to be. Can I interview me something funny quick? Yeah, go ahead. Kyle just got out of his room to give me another one.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Oh, he did? Oh, really? I got another one. All right. What did he get? Sadly, sadly, it's the snake. one but he apparently was thinking about it because he came out of his room oh okay so it's the same one we so we already did the snakes why it'd it have to be snakes yeah that's too bad I feel bad
Starting point is 00:37:01 I think it's funny that he came back out to I feel like we need to bake him a cake or something you know just something yeah yeah maybe I'll I'll give him I'll I'll help him out later all right you're the that'd be good all right I'm going to say um I like the idea of somebody's enough people going Galima so I'm going to do that. Chuck D. Day. Great quote. Kalima, show me.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Kalima. Damn it. Really? I have to really search because you guys pick silly names for your thing. So it's like which button am I pressing for a strike? Kalima was number 17 on the list. All right. I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Back to you, Brian. I'm trying to figure out what. I was going to go to the things I like. I'm going to go what I have things I like. I don't care what you like, Tadpool. Sure. I like when Germany is declared war
Starting point is 00:37:55 on the Jones Boys Oh yeah, okay, all right Oh, I don't like how you said Oh yeah, okay, no mind I'm back from out of that one Like that suddenly shocked you Too late, you took your hands off of the bishop You basically now have to play it
Starting point is 00:38:09 All right, show me Germany is now declared war on the Jones boys Nobody said that I don't even think anybody in the movie said that He doesn't say that. Yes, they did. What's his face? Someone in the third one, which is just, by the way, I was just reminded of the perfect one and the third one, and I think I'm going to get it. So this might be our win here when I do this.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I don't know. Okay. All right. You ready? You ready for this? Yeah. Ready. You have chosen poorly.
Starting point is 00:38:39 That's a good one. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Show me, you have chosen poorly. It never actually says it because by the time that guy is chosen poorly. he's already dead so he says he chose poorly oh right because earlier he said you have chosen wisely yes exactly which is why i made that comic about wesley crusher yeah i'm forgetting the lore here
Starting point is 00:39:03 okay all right so we get it oh man look at this and when you had the uh uh top man thing you have chosen portly portly portly pork okay um all right excellent um oh man stepany he didn't come out again did he and say another awesome one. Are we allowed to read the chat? I don't remember the rule. No, no chat. If Kyle emerges for his room three times, we get six more weeks of winter.
Starting point is 00:39:30 You know, I'm cheating. No, it's all good. Let's see. Oh, let me scour the... Oh, only the penitent man shall pass. That's exactly the one else going to... Yeah, the penitent man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 All right. Show me, only the penitent man shall pass. are you kidding me i i said that in the very beginning is kind of like a little joke about how many people passed on answering this one thinking that well this this way they'll hear me say that and they won't choose that one oh i didn't get it at all didn't even come close to get uh that one by the way was uh so low on the list uh well not that's super low 15 oh man didn't like the top 10 that should have been in the top 10 if some of these ones that that we've said there's been X's every one of them like That would be at the top of my list. It's just the fact that this movie has so many great quotes. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Listen, Brian, if you get any of these on the board, it pushes you past, oh, no, I'll take that back. He's at 17 now. So you need two more, right? Two more. Yeah, any two would do it or either of the two big ones. Yeah. Well, that one ties. Oh, it ties?
Starting point is 00:40:47 So 10 wins it for you, eight ties. and then otherwise you need to. Do you know how many times I've watched the original Indiana Jones? Yeah. The beginning, just the beginning. I had this on the laser disc, and I always put it in because the audio is freaking fantastic. So whenever I was testing any of my audio equipment, I always put in that first bit. And I just remember almost like all the dialogue from there.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And it really means something to me when he's running and, Jack, start the engine. And I just, I still do that sometimes when I'm riding with somebody, you know, get to the car. Yeah, Jacques, the original chick in the bucket, as far as I'm concerned. That dude just disappears and we're done. We never, you think we could have gotten, there was so many old favorites coming back in the fourth movie. You'd think that we could have gotten jock, right? Exactly. And his snake.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah, and he goes, he goes, I'm just my pet snake, Reggie. Right? Doesn't he say that? I think he's Reggie. Yeah. I think so. All right. So your, your quote, you're saying.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Brian is. Or when they're shooting the dark dark that's not really quote as much as something that sounds really cool
Starting point is 00:41:58 on my stereo equipment. Do you remember the sound the guy what's the French guy goes or whatever he makes that weird
Starting point is 00:42:03 Oh yeah right to get them to go after to like stand up and go after him yeah I'm the same as you do
Starting point is 00:42:10 that the first sequence in that movie is burned in my head just burned in there anyway it was like oh we didn't know
Starting point is 00:42:17 what we were getting into when we were like all right the rate is lost of the not Han Solo, man. He's gonna, he's like some
Starting point is 00:42:23 old dude, and then we get that first sequence, we're like, oh my God, please make this a 14-hour movie. Yeah. But then stop at three and never make a fourth. That's what we should say. Right, yes. Well, and now we're getting a fifth. All right, so the quote you're officially giving me, Brian Dunnoy.
Starting point is 00:42:39 All right. Show me, Jock! Start the engines. Yeah. So tough because I really wanted to, wanted to give you that one. All right, let's get to, so congratulations, Stephanie and Kyle. You win Borderlands 3. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Good job. You too. And it does count. Kyle gets points for being there. Yeah, he wins as well. Yeah. I got one. God. Yeah, he only got one. All right. So in the third movie, he's on the derogible, the blimp, and he throws the villain out of the window and everybody
Starting point is 00:43:18 looks at him and then it's silent for a second and then he says no ticket. No ticket. No ticket. I take it that one, of course. You should use that one. It's a good one. It's a tough, it's like you know, we name the dog Indiana. You hear that quote and you instantly know what it's from. If you say no ticket
Starting point is 00:43:35 to somebody, they're not going to, oh, Indiana Jones in the last thing. Yeah. This is back when it was... She was from the scene and I can get it. This is back when it was not at all controversial to throw a Nazi out of a window. I really enjoyed those times. Those are good times. Go Call me Jr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Junior. You'll call me Jr. By the way, number 10. I'll just show you right now. You should have said that one a few minutes ago. Don't call me Jr. When the pressure is off, it's this flow in your brain. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Let's see. The other two, I'll both come from Raiders at Lost Dark. And the first one, Brian, is like a couple lines right after the last one you gave me. It's, I hate snakes, Jock. I hate them. And it's the only time, like, we always attribute Indiana Jones to saying, I hate snakes, I hate snakes. He only says it once, and he says it in that line right there. I hate snakes, jock, I hate them.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yep. Right. I hate the size jock. I hate them. Yeah. Yeah, he really does. The other one also comes from Raiders Lost Dark. He's down in the bowels of the submarine with Marion.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And he says, or submarine, it's not the years, it's not the years, honey. It's the mileage. Oh, man. That's a great one. Hope in one of these would be when Harrison Ford got hit, nailed in the chin by Marion while he's trying to recover. And he screams so loud that there's sound outside the submarine. That's, that's a great one. It's a great one.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Somebody did do that with the, ah, yeah. Let's see here. Don't look, Marion. Keep your eyes shut. Number 12, Nazis. I hate these guys. I don't know. I'm making this up as I go is a good one.
Starting point is 00:45:10 We are going to die, which is one of the funniest moments in Temple of do them. Yeah, that was a good one. Asps, very dangerous. You go first. That's a great one. That's right. Might be one of my favorites. Fortune and glory, okey, dolly, Dr. Jones, hold on to your potatoes. That's why they call it the jungle sweetheart. Never tell me the odds. Somebody, three people are confused. That's not here. Yeah, it is. That should be here, shouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:38 That is a Han Solo quote. That is a Han Solo quote. Why is it sound, why am I picturing him in his hat was whip saying it's harrison ford right is i've conflated it it's in both places for me that's really oh interesting uh nothing shocks me i'm a scientist uh i was the next man and finally uh let's see a lot of these are like uh the german army is on our tail do you want me to go to berlin uh that's yeah or i said no camels that's five camels can't you count? Oh, that's a great quote. You know what there's more...
Starting point is 00:46:15 There's more Last Crusade or in here than I thought there would be. I expected more... Quite a lot. Yeah. I expected more Temple of Doom because I think Temple of Doom has a great bunch of quotes, but most of it is just like different yells and action. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I mean, all the... It's like the Temple of Doom coats seem to center around the Willie Scott, Indiana Jones relationship, right? the you'll never have better and says oh i don't know i'm you know yeah i'm a scientist i've seen all before um but nobody said ah chilled monkey brains or bring back the stones nobody did either of those or why it'd have to be giant ants yeah yeah right it'd have to be giant ants uh oh right giant ants or thank you refrigerator yeah that's a good one for saving my life yeah it's hilarious uh Claire gag in the chat says i'm so sad there were no uh no
Starting point is 00:47:11 Nothing from Crystal Skull. No, you're not. Don't pretty even pretend you are. Like, seriously, can you remember any quotes from Crystal Skull? I was trying to pull some out, and I know there was a couple of things. No. I bet you can't. I bet you can't name one.
Starting point is 00:47:27 No, there's not. There's nothing. It's a bad movie. In my defense, I've always seen that one, like, two maybe, maybe half, two and half times is the other ones I've seen millions. Yeah. And you're like everyone else. No one cares.
Starting point is 00:47:40 That movie sucks. It's bad. This shouldn't exist. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist. All right. Let's see what Five does. I won't hold my breath, but I think maybe they've spent... Rublex. Rublex does... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, I think that was for Transformers, not from... Actually, I think it's from half of his work has him doing that,
Starting point is 00:47:59 but it's not... One of them is not that Indiana Jones movie, unfortunately. But in everything else Shia Laboof does, he says, no, no, no, no, a lot. So there you go. All right, Stephanie, congratulations. Oh, right. You just brought a knife to a gun. gunfight. That is, okay, that is one from from Crystal Skull, but it just harkens back to
Starting point is 00:48:16 that great scene and right his last arc when he shoots the guy with the... Yeah, yeah. Plus it's an old phrase. Show don't tell. Plus it's an old phrase, the whole gun to a knife fight thing. Yes, to a gunfight. Yeah, so, whatever. Four, you don't exist. It's been around forever. Yeah, bad dates. Congratulations, well done. All you gots to do is send Brian
Starting point is 00:48:34 an email, coverville at gmail.com. He'll send you those codes, and Kyle will be in Fat City. but I hope he has a nice non-fitful rest tonight. I hope he gets some sleep. I won't interrupt him and let him know we want. I'll just wait to six hours.
Starting point is 00:48:49 There's no way he can go back to sleep now, though. He's got to, he's... Oh, no, now he's up. Either that, I thought he's going to sleep, but all he's doing is dreaming Indiana Jones now. Exactly. He'll just wake up going, can we watch a movie? All right, well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Hey, Brian, well done. A reminder to find folks at home that yesterday you and I pulled off a miracle, which is we finished up our discussion, our two-week discussion of the Metroidvania world of games that started in the retro space. And we covered the Castlevania's yesterday. And it was fantastic. I really had a good time with that episode. We had such a good time. We didn't come close to covering everything we wanted to. But we did get a chance to talk about the earlier parts of Castlevania. And it was so good. It was so good. I had so much fun studying that. It was really good. So go check it out. Lots
Starting point is 00:49:36 And a lot of whip references there, too. Oh, yeah, lots of whips, lots of chases. Throw me the Dracula spelled backwards. I'll throw you the whip. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Alicard. If anyone doesn't know this, Alicard, a very popular character in the Castlevania series,
Starting point is 00:49:53 his name is Dracula backwards. So there's that. He didn't know that. He wasn't born that way. No. He chose that name despite his dad. That's right. That's right, despite his father,
Starting point is 00:50:04 who is spelled Dracula for. front ways. Anyway, spoiler. Hey, Brian, have a great week, night, time, whatever. We'll see you for Film Sack this weekend. Kiss our butts. Goodbye. Yeah. All right. He's out. Bryant. We got to take a break. When we come back, uh, some time with our good pal, uh, Tom Merritt. You know him. You love him. He's great. Also, recommendals with Randy. I think he's still in town. He's still in town. Yeah. He is not, uh, headed out to his, his vacation yet. We got, we dodged that bullet. But we're also prepped for a couple of weeks with his stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So it's exciting times. Stick around for all of that. Brian, play us a song in the meantime, will you? Okay. How about a band called Graveyard Club? Bum bum. They have a brand new album coming out on June 17th called Moonflower. But look, you don't have to wait three months to hear a song from it.
Starting point is 00:50:56 No, we're going to give you a song now to listen to. This is the brand new single from the band Graveyard Club from, where are these guys? from i always like to say where where a band is from even though it really doesn't matter and in minneapolis oh all right they're from up north uh they are graveyard club here is their single nowhere all right here it is we'll be back in a second if you would all just do me this one favor stay tuned What's it going to take to belong in the golden sun and what you're going to say on the day? What you're going to say on the day all your friends are going to stay to awake with you? moon heat show
Starting point is 00:52:06 Oh I'm always blue It's getting cursing I know I'm nowhere I know where I'm nowhere I'm nowhere
Starting point is 00:52:42 Is it got a fear To be real That's faking How you gotta hear When you break Every day we make We stay right to die Watch this satellite
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's noise Better I'm always going. I always go. It's game. I know I know Where I know
Starting point is 00:53:51 Oh, Oh, and I know Where I know Where I know It's game Oh I know
Starting point is 00:54:09 I know Oh, and love. Oh, me. Oh, and I'm here. And I'm here. Hi, I'm Ben Dover from Computers Northwest. If you feel that computers create more problems than they solve, you really need us. That's not fair. Up till now, I've been reverend a shit.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, that guy's name was Ben Dover, for real. I checked it out. Yeah, he had an old computer store in the 90s, and it's a terrible name. I hope he was somewhere when somebody called to do a prank call, and they said, hey, is Ben Dover there? Oh, yeah, actually, he's right here. You can talk to him. Hi, I'm working on computers. What can I do for you?
Starting point is 00:55:35 He's Ken Kratz as well. He's Ken Kratz. Yes. Secret identity. Revealed. That song, by the way, was Graveyard. Club from their brand new album coming out June 17th. That song is called Nowhere. Fantastic. Let's get Tom Merritt in here. Let's talk some tech. You know?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah. I say why not. I say why not. I'll say why not. Let's see if we can. Oh, there we go. All right. Here's this. Check this out right here. With the computer as with any tool. The concept and direction must come from the man. That man is Tom Merritt. He is here as he is every Wednesday. Digging up tech stories so that you guys don't have to. You still can't if you want to but you know he's doing it so you don't bother when somebody's here to do it all for you yeah just let tom do it uh tom merritt welcome back how are you yeah i'm like uh greyhound yes yes you are like greyhound or are you just running around a track chasing a stuffed to animal rabbit yes i'm like a greyhound please free me this is a horrible life i thought you were a long
Starting point is 00:56:36 a long dirty sweaty ride and a bus that's what i thought yeah go greyhound and leave the long dirty sweaty writing to you. That's right. That's right. That's right. It's good to have you here. I see you got your St. Louis hat on. It's always nice to see you repping for your teams. This is the, this is, I always remind you with this one. This is a classic St. Louis Brown's hat. Oh, that's true. You have reminded me of that before. And the Browns have not been there for a very long time. So it's 1954. Ah, 1954. Excellent. Yes. Well, it's good to have here. I assume, you know, tech stuff's always flowing. So what's happening today? What are you prepping? Yeah, there's There's a big, there's a big hack story out there that you might have come across.
Starting point is 00:57:18 There's a malicious group running around, releasing stuff that they have stolen or acquired here and there. They did it to Nvidia. They did it to Samsung. And their most recent targets are Microsoft and Okta. With Microsoft, it looks like they got access to one person's account and downloaded some source code. and Microsoft's like, I mean, we don't love that, but it's not a security risk, you know, so whatever. Sure. There's a company called OCTA, though, that raised some eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:57:52 OkTA, OKTA, OKTA, does identity authentication for lots of companies, thousands of companies, big companies, companies like FedEx and folks like that, Siemens. And so there was a little worry about, well, what did you get there? Because if you got into the identities of these companies, then you can get into the companies. OCTA is saying that what the attackers gained access to was a single laptop from a support engineer at a third-party company called SETL. So they got into one support engineer's laptop. That support engineer had like list of Jira tickets and some very limited customer information and could reset passwords and tokens but didn't have access to the actual passwords and tokens, just the ability to reset. them. So the Okta says it's no more than 366 customers out of their 15,000 customers that could have possibly been affected. They say that's the maximum number. They're not even saying that's
Starting point is 00:58:54 how many would have been exposed. So they're, you know, they're trying to calm everybody down and say, look, this, this is embarrassing. It happened for about five days in January. We shut it down. We ended the session. Deauthorized the account, suspended it, et cetera. And nothing else happened after there's no ongoing malicious threat. So it's not good, especially if you're one of the affected customers. And there could be some embarrassing things. Maybe in that list of Gira tickets come out. There's always, you know, even just a little bit of personal information could be used for fishing attempts and try to gain access to companies that way. So you could see a story down the road where one of these companies gets breached and they're like,
Starting point is 00:59:36 oh, they must have had more and maybe they just fish their way in. But it looks like this, this malicious group really operates by bribery more than anything. They go and they pay people off or they buy credentials on the open market. And they're trying to claim they're doing it for good. You know, they're like, we don't target just anyone. Like with Nvidia, they made a demand that invidia roll back the driver that prevented mining on invidia cards uh you know so it's it's a it's a murky uh situation at best but in the oakta situation it at first sounded like it could be very bad and it seems like it's pretty limited so these guys are where fit squarely in the gray hat uh zone of hackers that's a real dark gray if it's gray at all yeah
Starting point is 01:00:26 okay so a nice a nice dark dark dark Yeah, yeah. A slate. Slate hat. Hackers. So, do they have a name? I'm just curious. Do they name themselves? I don't like to say their name. Okay, let's not say their name then. Yeah. I look, I'll admit to having a bit of an ear for cool hacker names, but you're not wrong in that, you know, spreading that around is probably. If you want to find their name, it's perfectly easy. Go look for an Okta story. Everybody's saying their name. Yeah, I'll go, I'll go find it. They like that, though, don't they? They like it when people say their name. Yeah, that's part of the kick of doing this. Trust me, is to get your name out there, whether you're white, gray, or black hat, or slate.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah, or slate hat. Whatever hat you wear, let us know. Anyway, well, this is interesting stuff, as always. These kind of groups, do they, I mean, are they, I assume someone's going after them and they, you know, like the FBI or the CIA or some other international. you know group or whatever or a crime fighting unit probably has these guys on their radar right they're gonna yeah they are eminently catchable uh it's it's only a matter of priority and will uh if you remember the the pipeline that got broken down those folks got targeted and they got found uh now some of them were in situations where they couldn't be arrested or anything like
Starting point is 01:01:52 that uh because they were overseas but they uh it is not hard to find i shouldn't say it's not It actually takes a lot of work. It's not impossible to find these people and uncover them. The question is, you know, do the agencies want to prioritize the amount of work it takes? Is it worth their time, et cetera? But really, what you can do to combat them is companies can just, you know, really work on hardening their security. One good thing about the Okta situation, we don't know how they got into the laptop. Okta isn't saying even if they know.
Starting point is 01:02:25 but Okta had good policies like the support engineers don't have access to your passwords for instance and are limited you know they've gated off so that if one account gets compromised it doesn't compromise the entire network and stuff like that so those kinds of security things worked do you think it's weird okay this is just a tom opinion thing i'm asking yeah do you think it's weird that i get a strange sense of satisfaction whenever i get emails that say or not even emails like in my um uh sometimes emails i guess but sometimes it's my app my authentication apps and stuff for my two-factor stuff i'll get notification that someone's trying to get in there uh like oh did you not request this uh but it seems like you did
Starting point is 01:03:14 and it certainly sites that don't have like all they've got is text-based or email based because they don't have a proper authentication to f a yet those will come in the form of an email and And they're like, well, if this wasn't you, just ignore it sort of thing. I don't know if I'm supposed to feel good about that, but I kind of do because to me it looks like somebody trying to get in and they can't. And I kind of like that they can't because I'm not stupid. You know what I mean? Right. I like that feeling.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Is that how we're supposed to feel or should I be nervous every time that happens? I don't know how to feel. I mean, a little of both is what I feel. I always feel like, ooh, I don't like that. Yeah. But I would also feel good that it was caught, right? Because you feel worse, as you know. if they're not.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I just see it and go, yeah, keep trying, Betty. And then I'm like, no, don't, you don't want to feel that way. Yeah, don't keep trying. Yeah, I think keep trying might be not the thing that I would think. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a weird thing I've noticed this week. But yeah, I think it's fair to feel like, oh, good, that worked.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, yeah. And if you can, and a reminder to people out there, if you use services that have two FAA or even more than two factors, get that, get that in there and get it going and if you have stuff where they don't offer it yet encourage them to and keep bugging them about it but also at least at the very least do the text-based stuff or the email-based stuff or whatever layers
Starting point is 01:04:33 you can do and then have crazy passwords. Do the most secure one they have. Yeah, whatever that is also make your passwords kind of crazy if you can you got a good password manager. It's a good opportunity to remind people. Don't use the same password everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Having had my Twitter account totally taken over once and I had
Starting point is 01:04:49 text authentication stuff for that at the time that's more now. But I remember going, oh, okay, time to lock down my entire life. And I did. Nobody can get in. And I'm not trying to taunt anybody. Don't go, you know. Oh, now you've made it a challenge.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I don't need anybody taking that as a challenge is what I'm getting at. All right. Tom Merritt, everybody. Hey, do you got anything else going on these days? I really enjoyed your last few newsletters, by the way. It's been very good. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I put an old college paper on Ukraine in the newsletter last Friday. Friday, if anybody wants to go look at that. The paper was written in 1991, I think, or 92. I can't remember. I think 91. But it was about the Soviet Union had just dissolved, and the remainder of the Soviet Union, it wasn't even entirely the Russian Federation at that point, was negotiating with Ukraine over Crimea. And so I wrote a paper about, you know, the,
Starting point is 01:05:53 intricacies of that negotiation and what should happen. Spoiler alert, not in the paper is the fact that Ukraine held on to Crimea until 2014 when Russia went and took it. But that paper tells you sort of the situation at the time and a little bit of the history of the claims on Crimea. So I don't know. I ran across that when I was going through some old stuff and I'm like, oh, this is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And look at me. I got an A on this paper. So it can't be too bad. And so I put it in the newsletter for folks to enjoy. I've been doing more of that kind of stuff. So if you want to get that kind of stuff, go check out freetomnewsletter.com. Fantastic. Check out the Daily Tech News Show today at 1 p.m.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Oh, wait, sorry. That's changed. 2 p.m. My time. 1 p.m. Pacific. Yes. I like the new structure. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:06:45 It works good. It feels good. You know, sometimes you only know. If you go to our Patreon, too, it's much simpler now because we start the show with DTNS. So you don't have to choose which show you get anymore in Patreon. You just get the extended show. And DTNS is right up the top. If you don't have time for the rest of the show, you can just skip it. Yeah. And it's a real simple way to back us. Because I know some people have said, I went to your page and it was way too confusing. And so I left. So if that was you,
Starting point is 01:07:13 go look again. Yeah. Much simpler now. Yeah. Simpler now. Easier now. And I'm on Wednesdays. So more hacker talk and other cool stuff later today. Tom Merritt. Have a fantastic week, man. Thanks, you too. We'll see you later. See you, Tom. Bye. Woo-hoo. Oh, I didn't hang up on Tom.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Still there. Hi, Tom. Hi, Tom. Here we go. Bye. What did I close? Oh, I don't know, but I'm still here, fortunately. Yeah, you're still here.
Starting point is 01:07:40 That's good. I didn't screw that up. I could have screwed that up, but I didn't. All right. I got to move your spaghetti build off my screen. There it is. All right. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Hey, where are we now? Oh, let's get to Randy up in it. Yeah. He's, uh, This is just prior to him doing a little vacate. That's right. Yeah. I'm jealous of what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Well, well-earned vacation for Randy. I agree. They don't get very many, but when they do, they go hard. All right, check this out. Here you go. Hey, look who it is. It's Randy Jordan joining us all the way from Orange County, California, to talk about
Starting point is 01:08:15 recommendals. Hello, Randy. How are you? Good morning, morning stream. Yes, I do go hard. I go very hard. It's hard every single time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Go hard to go home. That's what they say, right? So it's the only way to go. Has anyone ever gone home? I guess people do go home, right? They don't always go hard. Yeah. Like March Madness is happening right now.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You win or go home, right? I've gone home with all my brackets. I used to, man, I used to play soccer when I was a kid. And that just like soccer tournaments are the, okay, soccer tournaments in South Texas in the spring or summer are the worst thing you can imagine. Like there's no shade anywhere. You have to play like four games in a single Saturday. You know, you're a little kid. Oh, my gosh, I don't miss that at all.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Well, yeah, I don't, I mean, even here in a much more, you know, dry climate. I didn't like soccer for the same reasons. Too hot, too much sunburn. It turns out Gatorade gum did squat all, but we were told it was good for us. You know. But anyway, favorite thing about that was when you got to playing your final game and you were losing. Sometimes your coach would just concede because he wants to go home. Everybody would just go home, the ones who would do, you know, on the losing team of the final game of the day.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Which is the opposite of going hard. So there you go. All right. Well, we've all learned something. Let's do some recommendals today, everybody, where we go through some stuff we've all seen on streaming services and recommend them to you. I believe we'll begin with Brian as is the tradition. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Do you want to set up first clip here? Yeah. Yeah, first one is a limited series. All right, here we go. Limited series. You looked me up and you read some stuff about me. And now you want to ask me a question. That's not new.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I usually get either what happened to the kid in the story, where is he now? Or did Bloomberg really offer me a job? And then after everything came out, take it back. It's always some version of one of those. And yes, I can tell you they took the job back. And no, I don't know what happened to the kid. that answer your question because I would love to move on to you.
Starting point is 01:10:25 That wasn't my question. What do you want to ask me? I looked at some stuff about you from the internet and I see some pictures. And I wonder, why do you dress like that? Like that. What's you wearing? You look poor.
Starting point is 01:10:48 What accent is that? That is a fake German heiress accent. Oh, my gosh. That's Julia Garner from Ozark as Anna Delvey, or the quote-unquote Anna Delvey in inventing Anna. This is a Netflix limited series about a writer for Manhattan Magazine, I'm sorry, New York Magazine, that exposed this woman who posed as a fake German. and heiress to swindle people into money and expensive hotels and fantastic trips and things like that. And it is a fascinating case study in what you can get away with if you, if you fool the right
Starting point is 01:11:36 people. So this is a real lady, right, based on a real person? Yes, based on a real lady and based on a real crappy accent that you can. And we haven't talked about this yet. Like, I thought, I really thought we talked about this. No, I don't think so. I have the, I have this, like, really strong memory of you or someone on a podcast, talk about how you started watching.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Oh, you know what? It was like, nope, this is true. You're not wrong. Brian, a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about Ozark and we talked about her and how much we liked her. And you said, oh, yeah, I'm starting this new show, something, something. And then that's, that's all we did. I think I might have, or I said about to, yeah, because we, we binge through it in about
Starting point is 01:12:13 three nights because it was so riveting. But the other voice you're hearing there, by the way, is Anna Chlmsky from Veep. kind of the second highest-billed character under Julie Louis Dreyfuss. So the show is inventing on it. It's on Netflix. It's a nine-episode series, about an hour each. And basically, it takes you through the current court trial or the current exoneration of Anna Delvey. but also told in flashback how she got to the point where she got.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And it is amazing. Like, you know, basically you can see all of this happening, people being completely fooled by what she's doing and how she gets in to all these different groups and how she fools the right kind of people. One of those people, Anthony Edwards, in a great role as kind of the money man who reluctantly partners with her. Does he get ejected and die in the ocean?
Starting point is 01:13:20 at some point or any of that and it's not like the real It does not. No, none of that. Goose does not die in this. Leverin Cox as a friend of hers personal trainer. What's the guy's name? I think it's, let's see, I have to look it up. Jeff Perry, is that right?
Starting point is 01:13:36 No, Terry Kinney. The guy who played the owner of the women's wrestling team in Glow. Yeah, I can't find his name all of a sudden, but anyway, he's in this and he's really good. um it's it's it's it's great it's a really really good show and julia garner does this great balancing act of uh coming up with an accent that doesn't sound like a genuine german
Starting point is 01:14:03 accent yeah but kind of sounds like could be questionable is that a russian person trying to do a german accent kind of thing and it uh um so that's that's made clear in the story that that that we know it's a bad accent on purpose, right? Like, it's not us going, ooh, I sure wish Anna, or I wish Julia Garner was a better accent maker. But it's that part, it's sort of, yeah, sort of becomes clear. You're, uh, you find out, um, Anna's heritage. Yeah. But you still aren't quite sure why she talks like that and why the actual Anna Delvey talks like that as well.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Okay. Okay. There was an interview with Anna Delvey on Entertainment Tonight. I didn't get to the remote fast enough, and so I saw like a 30-second clip of entertainment tonight, but it was basically the real Anna Delvey saying, I can't believe people think I talk like that. Or do I really sound like that? That's funny. That's great. Randy, what are you going to say?
Starting point is 01:15:08 I really don't want to push back on other people's recommendations, but someone convinced me a couple weeks ago that this was Dreck and I just want to ask the question Bibbitt, why does this have 33% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes? Oh, does it really? I don't know. I don't know why it does because I think both Julie Garner and Anna Chulmsky do a great
Starting point is 01:15:29 job in it as kind of your main back and forth on this. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why it would unless Anna is behind it unless she's telling people the real Anna is telling people to go and that's right. She's making up a bunch of bunch of fake people to go vote yeah exactly the score that could be because the uh tom norm didn't
Starting point is 01:15:51 not like it actually says uh because it blows in multiple letters oh wow tom but um go for up there buddy hold don't hold yeah we enjoyed it Tina really liked it um I liked it as well but uh you know your your mileage may vary sure inventing Anna tomato meter for critics is 64% which isn't is it's certified fresh but it sounds like it's a little controversial and so you You know, that's fine. Yeah. I'll watch it. For sure.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I wonder why the audience score is so low compared to the critics, you know, mediocre story. That is always the case on, on these things. Sometimes. Like, sometimes they're just like. Anytime you have like a female led, you know, series. Yeah. That, you know, one of these, you know, studios like Netflix put out, you have this weird,
Starting point is 01:16:39 you know, weird upside down. Never trust, never trust audience scores. They're the worst. Everywhere. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've heard you say, you only trust the audience. No, no, no, opposite. I don't go with the critic score.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I only go with the audience. Randy, you have it backwards, literally backwards. I go with the averages of the critic scores are usually right where my head is, almost on anything I see. It's almost always right on. Audience scores are full of, there's just no way to, you don't even have to see the movie to do an audience score. You can just go in there because you're pissed because the movie has a transgender
Starting point is 01:17:10 character in it, and so you're like, I'm going to go on there and, and that's up this up. the case, too. People hating on Laverne Cox from Arges of the New Black. Yeah, they might be part of it. Part of it, like that turning red thing from Pixar, nothing but raves and near 100% from critics. Look at what people did with
Starting point is 01:17:26 Captain Marvel because of comments that Brie Larson made prior to its release. Yeah. For the rest of my life, it will be the Ghostbusters 2016. For the rest of my life, I will be like shaking my head at how
Starting point is 01:17:41 audiences can review bombs. Well, they were lame. That was lame. That movie was also lame. So it was a double sandwich of lame. That was all lame. Everything about that thing was lame. But my point is like, yeah, it's the flip. I trust I trust critics more than I trust audience scores. Not because I don't trust my friend. Like if Brian says, I like the thing, I'm going to put more stock in that than almost anything or other or Randy or whoever because I trust my friends. What I'm saying is audience scores are full of anonymous ding-dongs. There's nobody in there trying to, like no, and they all, if they have an agenda, it's like, same thing with, what do you call it, uh, Steam review bombs, where people go in
Starting point is 01:18:24 there and just F with games because they have a problem with like who made it or developer or, yeah, exactly. F off. Those people can all bite a toad. I don't, I don't want anything to do with them. So here, so I will say this. The, um, of my two recommendals today, this is the latter, or the lesser of the two. If you're going to watch only one thing that I recommend, men today. The thing coming up is what I absolutely want you to devote 39 minutes of your life to. All right. All right. Here we go. I'm playing it. I watch him and his team with what should appear to be a decided disadvantage. Beat the mess out of people every time I go watch them play over the course of the last three years. They were on a 42 game win streak. Do you know how many
Starting point is 01:19:06 seasons it takes to accumulate a 42 game win street. And the team came up from Texas and something happened that was just completely unexpected. My son's team got beat. At the end of the game, one of the players raised his hand and he wanted to speak. His number was 23. He stood up and he said this loss will not define us as a team the reality of this life is that while we are living we are going to face some adversity yet we must examine who we are in the face of adversity no idea but it sounds like a documentary yeah it definitely sounds like a documentary like Sound designers everywhere are like, oh, you can't, man, you can't make that in the studio. No.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Right. Yes. Yes, this is absolutely the documentary. And like I said, it is 35 minutes, 39 minutes long, which is short, which is why it's nominated for an Oscar for Best Documentary Film Short. This is called Audible. And it's all about a player for the football team at the Maryland School for the deaf or a student at the, at the Maryland School for the Deaf. That's his dad talking.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Some of the only dialogue you get in the film because it's a lot of subtitles because it's told by the player himself, Amory, the character, the main, not character, but the main focus of this documentary. And it's all about how he's, you know, the parts of life
Starting point is 01:20:54 that he's had to overcome because he's deaf, especially playing football against other high school teams that are not hearing challenge that can hear and how this team still manages to maintain this massive winning streak all around the recent devastation that he's had in his life from losing a friend of his who is also deaf. And we've only seen three of the documentary shorts that are nominated this year. We're going to try and watch the rest of them tonight, along with a couple of the animated and short subject but i'm already feeling like this one is the one to watch
Starting point is 01:21:35 this is the one that's that's probably going to win the best right i want to i want to shoehorn in a recommendal then because uh you can you can watch uh the queen of basketball right now on on and why are they all about sports they're not there's just two of them are the nominees are right um queen of basketball is free for you to watch on like youtube and vimeo and you absolutely should. It will win this Oscar. Oh, really? Oh, look at us. Like a little head to head. Now, that one is Best Documentary Short Subject. This one is
Starting point is 01:22:08 Let's see. Is this the same? It's under the same. Yeah. This documentary short subject. Yeah. So same category. Ooh. We haven't seen Queen of Basketball yet because we did all the, we did all the Netflix shorts. There are three of them on there. There's Lead Me Home. um audible and three songs for Aziz Benazir
Starting point is 01:22:32 Benazir Benazir three songs that's a lot of songs it's a lot of songs so this was of those three the best one we saw admittedly we have not seen
Starting point is 01:22:41 Queen of Basketball yet but I can't imagine it's better than this because this is so good you and I both need to watch the other one and then come back together yeah let's do that we should literally do that
Starting point is 01:22:52 and let's be clear I said it'll win the Oscar I didn't say it was necessarily the better Oh, yeah, right. Once you've seen it. No, this is good. This is an important distinction because Randy has got, you did a little bit of this last week. You've got, you know, the math isn't always what's best.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Sometimes it's what Hollywood would do or what is the hot thing right now or whatever. So, yeah. The best picture doesn't always win best picture. All right. Anyway, so this is on Netflix. So if you've got, if you've got Netflix or you're paying $2.99 cents, you don't live in the same. house is the owner of the Netflix account, you can watch this one.
Starting point is 01:23:27 And I just want to, I think we kind of skipped over the whole point. It's called Audible, because in football, that is a something that you do at the line of scrimmage. You're about to snap a play. Yeah, an Audible is when the quarterback suddenly changes the play and he has to yell out to everybody and they all have to hear what in the world he's doing, right? Yeah, exactly. And all these guys facing the other team, but doing something, you know, the, the, the
Starting point is 01:23:53 players doing something that makes it so that they all go at the same time. It's incredible. Like, you got to watch this. It's Audible. You'll be, you'll be thanking me for the 39 minutes you spent watching this. Very nice. All I hear when you say Audible, I hear. Great audio books wherever you are. Exactly. This podcast is brought to you by audible.com. All right. I'm going to play a clip here of a series. Oh, before I do that, follow up. I saw brand new cherry flavor. Brian recommended it. And he was right to.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It was right up my alley. I loved it. It's weird and crazy. And I don't know that I would recommend it to too many people that I even know because it's like. It's not for everybody. It's not for everybody. About somebody if you recommend it. Here's what it says.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I like, here's what I like when people are doing something new and doing something I've not thought about seen before and doing it in a way that is there were I didn't expect it to be funny it was funny there were moments that were like Catherine Keener is freaking funny in this oh she's great and she's also horrifying in this but like there's so there's a lot of characters this thing that are funny horrifying and then just plain horrifying yeah and there's something about that the the mix of just really good acting um yeah salazar what's her first name uh Rosa Rosa Rosa Salazar uh you all know her as elita battle angel with the giant eyes she's going places dude she blew my freaking mind in this she's
Starting point is 01:25:29 so good in it and outside of her weird rib vagina thing okay that whole scene oh goodness wow no there's no spoiler there dude let me tell you i don't care how prepared you think you are for that you're not prepared and that's the thing like this like you can't recommend this you can't definitely say you liked it or you were glad you watched it, but you can't recommend something like this because it's like recommending someone go get a tattoo, right? I'm sorry, no, that is for you to decide
Starting point is 01:26:02 I'm saying I got a tattoo and from this guy, it was a good tattoo and I'm really, I really am gonna like it the rest of my life. But I'm not telling you to go do that. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, I know certain people who were like either horror movie aficionados or you know they like Cronenberg type movies or whatever this is definitely for those people you'll know who you are if this is for you yeah this is like Cronenberg meets David Lynch yeah this very David Lynchian yeah and it's uh yeah and the way that they though it's I just think it's
Starting point is 01:26:35 it's incredibly well done in a couple other ways there's a lot of world building without being overt about it which I always like um and they don't it's a limited series so it's not there's no sequel season coming yeah I know which they could they could but it could that's the thing like oh man yeah when you said no you said limited series i'm like what really and yeah i was surprised because like oh yeah you could totally continue this story for sure yeah or continue it with complete other characters right it's one of those like uh it's a universe thing maybe you'd have to complete it to continue it with rosa salazar but you could continue the rest of her journey yeah yeah and she literally is going somewhere else at the end so yes you could you could do that i i i just think from people are always like scott how can you like stuff like this to me it's just like there's some artistry going on here and they're doing stuff
Starting point is 01:27:25 nobody else is doing i just admire that i like it again not for everybody if you're squeamish about certain things or i don't know like if you just don't like weird maybe maybe pass but that was not your recommendal this week no that was bryans and i just wanted to concur i really liked it i love it yeah it was great all right here's the one and to speaking of weird but also a lot more general audience weird uh here's what i'm watching right now i wish i wish all episodes were out they're not i have to wait for the next couple before it's over but i love this so here it is your outy likes the sound of radar your outy is skilled at kissing and love making i'm sorry please don't respond to any specific fact
Starting point is 01:28:16 That's 10 points off. I was just... Please don't speak further. Or all remaining points will be deducted in the long session will end. Okay. Are we talking about a protruding belly button and an Audi? Is she talking about that? No, I wish.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I wish. No, I actually don't wish. I'm glad it is what it is. So this is... And in fact, I don't even want to get into what an Audi or an any is too much in the context of this because it is a little spoilery. Just because it has so much to do with what this show is, but the show is Severance.
Starting point is 01:28:47 It is on Apple TV Plus. This is an original series from them. Starring Adam Scott, Zach Cherry, Britt Lower. She's awesome. Who else? Oh, my gosh. Christopher Walkins in this. Vol Vasquez is one of my favorite dudes.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Do you remember the cop friend from the insiders or the outsider, Brian? We both watched The Outsider. Remember the Stephen King? Yeah, the cop friend from the outsider. Dark hair, kind of, you know, South American looking kind of dude, good friend of what's his name. Anyway, he plays a character named Petey. He is really good. I'd like him a lot. I didn't mention John Totoro yet. He's, I didn't expect to be so enamored with John Totoro's character. Anyway, and it's also
Starting point is 01:29:35 unlike anything Christopher Walken's ever done, it's just really odd to even see him in this, but it is the coolest show, and I'll tell you who this is for. Um, even though I'm, I don't know how they're going to do the landing. I really don't. This is one of those like lost where I'm not sure how they're going to finish it. And that, that probably will make some people nervous. It makes me a little nervous to be honest. But the journey is what I'm loving and the world building and this crazy premise. I'm give you the basic premise that Imbb gives so that I'm not coming anywhere near spoilers here. Uh, Adam Scott plays a character named Mark. Mark leads a team of office workers whose memories have been surgically. divided between their work and personal lives. When a mysterious colleague appears outside of work, it begins a journey to discover the truth about their jobs. It's weird. So, um, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:28 You, we've all seen the lobster, right? The, um, Colin Farrell, never saw it. You never saw lobster. No. Um, I'm trying to like, come up with, is it weirder than blah, blah, you know. Yeah, is it weirder than eternal sunshine? Um, oh, that's a good. Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It's, because it feels, there's very, there's some similar. In some ways, it's more grounded than Eternal Sunshine, and in some ways it's weirder than. There's just a lot of mystery. So is it, is it weirder than a cable guy? Well, keep in mind, this is Ben Stiller producing. The creator of the show is Dan Erickson. He's known for, let's see, this. Apparently hasn't done much else.
Starting point is 01:31:06 He's only listed in IMDB as writing this or creating this. It is, most of these episodes are directed by Ben Stiller. it's not a comedy at all, although there are moments of, you know, there are moments to laugh at. The big takeaway for me for this is it's doing this crazy world building where we don't know all the answers yet, and they're slowly peeling back layers of this onion, and I find it incredibly compelling and extremely well-acted. That's the one thing I wanted to say here. Adam Scott is great in this. And I will tell you right now, when you watch this, tell me if I'm wrong when you watch it. But when you watch this, if they ever reboot MASH, speaking of MASH, Brian, he's your
Starting point is 01:31:51 Hawkeye. I'm telling you, 100% he's your Hawkeye. And it's not just because of the hair. He embodies like a... He can balance the serious and the funny that Alinalda was able to do. Yes. And it happens to look a lot like him right now. Anyway, man, I didn't even mention the whole cast freaking Patricia Arquette's in this.
Starting point is 01:32:09 She's a psycho. I think this might be my favorite thing of the year on TV so far. And it's, let's see, we're six, seven episodes in. I think there may be 10 total. I'm waiting for the new one. And now I can't wait. I cannot wait to keep going. It's just had me gripped the entire time.
Starting point is 01:32:28 I'm dancing around story points here because I just want people to enjoy it like I have. And I love it. It's so good. So get it if you can get it because it's something special. I mean, I don't know. you know, award season may roll around and this may get ignored because it's just too weird. Yeah. But I don't know how you ignore the way it's filmed.
Starting point is 01:32:48 The set design is incredible. It's such a great mix of just like amazing acting, a little bit of comedy. So a little bit of, you know, it's not completely dower, but it's this mystery that is just slowly starting to come together. And if you ever want, I don't want to give that away. I'm not going to say it. There's so much cool stuff. So I'm going to recommend it very highly. Severance is rad.
Starting point is 01:33:13 And if you're like, well, what about content? Is it gory? No. Is it violent? No. Does it have a bunch of F words occasionally? That's kind of your, that's why it's M.A. TVMA.
Starting point is 01:33:24 That's one thing. This, our listening audience, boy, do they hate the F words? They'll be fine with it. Yeah. They'll be fine with it. But if anyone's out there going, I wonder if my, you know, 15 year old can watch this. You know, yes, absolutely. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:33:36 And I can't wait to see how they'd land this. They may not be able to. I don't know. I'm not saying they won't. So far, it's masterfully made, but... It has been renewed for a second season, so they may not... They may not wrap all of it. That's true. That's true. And that'd be fine.
Starting point is 01:33:51 But, like, when they get to whatever the end is, you know, you just have these worries. We worried about it with leftovers, but they nailed it, I thought. Yeah. Stop the landing. Sometimes you stick the landing. Sometimes you don't. But I'm enjoying this so much. I kind of don't care right now.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Because the journey of every episode is, so interesting and goes to so many crazy places in your head it's really wonderful stuff so anyway severance available now Apple TV Plus is the streaming service alright right on let's get to your deal here what do you
Starting point is 01:34:22 what do you want to do here yeah I'm I'm we're going to play a clip and have a link to a movie that Brian Ibbett actually did on recommendals about seven months ago reusing my recommendals this is totally fine thank you oh oh by the way
Starting point is 01:34:37 sorry I almost forgot the big comparison wanted to make to tell people if you liked if you liked devs you'll love severance there that's the comparison oh that's a good okay very good i love that if you like that you'll love this because it is in that wheelhouse 100% all right sorry brandy continue um i actually want to i want to talk about three movies but we are we're going to play a link from one of them and uh it's oscars week right and and like we're out here telling people you should watch this you should watch that well you have a chance over the next few days to watch three movies and one of the three of them really only two of the three of them have are going to absolutely win best picture but there's three movies that you should watch if you haven't at all and this is a clip from one of them this is very early in the film and it's a couple of high school kids having a discussion okay not sex I was hoping you were not going to say that but a discussion I can do discussion. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Guess what? What? I did it. I hooked up with tiny fingers. Why? I don't know. Curiosity got the better of me. Also, totally wrong. Despite his tiny little baby hands. Really? Yeah, we have to change the nickname. Do you smell fish? No, I think she's not doing deaf voice anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:03 That's progress. So the goal is to find the elective that asked the the least of you. My film club. Also known has put your backpack down and go smoke a ball. Plus, Mr. Oavich is actually pretty hot, you know? Like in a Comic-Con kind of way? Hi. Why, actually? Choir. Okay, just fill this up. Choir? Are you high? I sing all the time. Thanks. Okay. Well, you're already socially challenged enough around here, but sure.
Starting point is 01:36:35 If you start, you know, beatboxing, you're doing that. Cup clapping thing, we're done. Wow, I have no idea. So, yeah, you don't. And I want you to watch this movie, Scott. In the next four days, I want you to watch this movie. Go for it. Please.
Starting point is 01:36:50 That is Coda. That is... Oh, Cota. I almost pushed play on it last night after I finished severance. I almost did. That is really early on in the film. Hard to capture the sound of the movie because it's about a child of deaf adults. It's about a girl who is growing up in a household where her brother and her
Starting point is 01:37:09 parents are all deaf. And as a result, there's a lot of sign language in this movie. You've got to pay attention to what's on the screen. It's, you know, I wanted, the reason I'm recommending this specifically is because for the entire Oscar season, we've all been convinced that the power of the dog is going to win best picture. And as the weeks go by and some Oscar voters talk, and they all do. They love to talk. They love to make blind posts and so forth. Coda has been catching up. And it's actually, like it's it's become kind of a two horse race where it was previously i didn't really think it had a chance and the third is about belfast by the way uh belfast has has plummeted in the odds and it's now you know coda and power of the dog um if you if you can only watch one between coda and belfast i'm saying watch coda because it's just the more like it's just the more movie movie it's just like it's just like it actually like the reason I thought originally it wouldn't win best picture is because it's got a couple of like there's a couple of moments in the movie where I'm like why did they make that joke that has no business being in this movie but overall like when you when you get to the end of it you're going to go okay that that thing's going to win some awards that's like and it's it's this year's ladybird only I would say this is actually a little better than ladybird. it's and it's because it's got
Starting point is 01:38:41 such a focus on the characters when a bunch of people are deaf the camera has to focus on the like literally focus on the characters and it has an effect as a result of that like over over time like you you find yourself staring at the dad
Starting point is 01:38:56 and Marley Matlin is also watching her face too Troy Kotzer is the dad I have a real fun thing about that guy So I've heard nothing about that dude Other than he's amazing Like just he's great in this The movie's just like
Starting point is 01:39:14 Go see it because this guy's amazing Everyone's good but he's incredible And then I look up his IMDB And the thing he did before Cota He was a Tuscan Raider scout number one Oh really? In Mandalorian I think that's awesome
Starting point is 01:39:29 That's awesome He's a he's a perfectly good actor He's given the role of a lifetime here and it really grows on you through this movie like the movie is the movie is designed to have you
Starting point is 01:39:44 slowly find yourself just looking at Troy Kotzer like at the at first he feels like he's right out of central casting you're like oh New England fisherman well they just went and plucked some guy off the docks and then as it goes
Starting point is 01:40:01 he starts out he's deaf right he spent his whole life not speaking. Yeah. And so, like, he, as it starts out, he's really not a factor. And with each passing scene in this movie, he becomes more and more engaged in his daughter's life, like she's ending high school and about to go to college. And it's just like, in the end, the big climactic scene is just between the two of them.
Starting point is 01:40:28 It's just him and her sitting on the back of a truck. And it's like, I don't know. It's just like, it's absolutely beautiful. If there were, if there was like an Oscar for Best Scene, I think that this, this movie would win hands down. Is the whole family, oh, go ahead. Sorry. The Cota won both at the Writers Guild Awards and the producers Guild of America Awards, which, which basically elevated it up to, oh, okay, Oscar, like, major Oscar contender. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:00 So that's your question. Oh, sorry. I was just going to say, um, I, I, I, I, recognize. So the daughters is, is, she has hearing. The parents don't, right? Right. And then the, who's this dude on the far right of the poster? Who's that guy? You guys see him? Let me look at the poster. Is it the, it's a brother who's also deaf. Oh, he's also deaf. Okay. Interesting. All right. Yeah. I'm a teacher is another person that we, we're just starting to see in other things. Yeah. He's in that, uh, what does that show? Acapulco or something? It's another. And again, like the thing. The thing. about this movie that made me go, eh, it won't win, originally was the music teacher, because he's trope-mic-trop face from south of the border. Oh, he's from Tropertown. Okay, got it. Yeah. And, uh, but the movie really treats that character very, very well. Like, it, it doesn't, it doesn't steer into the tropes. It actually, like, it makes him a whole character, you know, and you find,
Starting point is 01:41:57 you find out, you know, some of it's like backstory and so on. And that Lonnie Farmer? Is that that actor? Is that who you're talking about? No, no, we're talking about... I like him. He's good. I'm pulling it up right now. And Eugenio Derbez. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Eugenio del Bez. Eugeneio der Bez. And he... Yeah, like you said, I'm looking up to see what the other thing is that he's been recently in... Yeah, wherever I've seen this, dude. He's got such a great expressive face, too. Oh, he's in that Dora movie. He's Alejandro and that.
Starting point is 01:42:33 that Dora movie, which is supposed to be, that's supposed to be really good. Can you believe I'm even saying those words? It's supposed to be good. He does a lot of voices for like Spanish translations of things like the Grinch Secret Life of Pats, both one and two. And he was in Geostorm. Oh, all right. Don't hold that against him.
Starting point is 01:42:57 No, don't hold that against anyone in Geostorm. Yeah. That's a bad movie. And I just want to come back around again. like you can watch Power of the Dog right now on Netflix. You can watch Cota on Apple. Belfast is going to cost you a little money. But if you're able to watch all three, you know, throw six bucks at any of these services.
Starting point is 01:43:15 And you watch Belfast. And that is that is really it for Best Picture this year. You will you will have seen whichever of those three wins. That's your horse race. I think Belfast is still on HBO. I think, let me just see to make sure we're telling people right. Hey, you haven't seen drive my car yet. Have you, Randy?
Starting point is 01:43:34 I have not. I'm not either. You really got me with that. Like, I'm sorry, just the picture of the car on the poster. I would like, I will watch this. Just to see that car. It's really good. I would say that's probably fourth for me, but you definitely nailed the top three.
Starting point is 01:43:48 I'm about to, I'm about to take a really long flight in a couple days, and I've got a couple of movies loaded up to watch on the plane. And I think my car is okay for my small screen. Yeah. Here's a drive-by car as the added benefit. is that in watching that, you're also watching Uncle Vanya, the play. All right. I was wrong. Belfast is not on HBO Max.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I thought it was. No, no, but still, you still have to rent it. And licorice pizza, has that moved on to a streaming service yet? I can tell you. That's also really, really good. Rentable, not, but not streaming, but rentable. Yeah, $5.99 for that one. I'll tell you the other reason I want Coder to win the best picture.
Starting point is 01:44:29 And that's because it didn't get a nomination for. best actress or best director which is just wild like that happens once in a you know once in a decade a movie elevates itself all the way to the top and the the academy didn't notice that there were people actually making the movie you know yeah um it it makes sense right like the best director uh category for instance it has jane campion and stephen spillberg and kenneth brana and you're like okay yeah i i understand why they forgot that coda had a director yeah in this case it's a it's a director and creator this is a woman who uh you know had the whole movie in mind you know and and made this movie and it's going to be weird for that you know
Starting point is 01:45:15 basically all of them except the the best supporting actor nominee to have not you know gotten on stage or even been named up to the end of the the Oscar show she has a name she sounds like a crayon uh say a cyan header heater is her name and she shouldn't yeah put her in there why not get more women in there get these freaking old dudes out of there man um apparently apparently she uh you know came up as a writer and did some really good work like she's been she's gotten acclaim for the episodes of oranges of the new black that she wrote yeah and uh you know good for her directed i just think it's i think it's hysterical though because it's a very well directed movie this is not this is not a movie
Starting point is 01:45:57 that will look to you like it directed itself. How the hell do you get some of these shots of actors who cannot hear you giving them instructions? I don't know. Did you see, sorry, Claire reminded me of something in the chat. Did you guys see that we always talk about dairy girls on here and how much we like dairy girls and can't wait for the new season and all that?
Starting point is 01:46:18 And there's always this thing about how The Simpsons have been on so long, it predicts everything, it predicts presidential candidates, it predicts all this. There's an old episode where there's an ice cream, cream place called dairy girls except it's spelled dairy D-A-I-R-Y yeah I thought that was great I love that anyway I don't know I saw Claire's post and it made me think of it so sorry for the non-sequitur anyway so there you go Coda double recommendal for you folks we've had that one on before Randy you'll be in a strange place next week but we'll still have you because we got
Starting point is 01:46:46 oh yeah we got we got a strange place every week I mean you hear a man sir yeah I really have yeah but but we've got it all we've got it all figured out we've got episodes of film sack all in the can and I'm going to be joining you here on the morning stream. I'll just be on a headset rather than a good microphone. Oh well. Oh, well. Hey, we've had worse.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Trust me, from others. Don't feel bad. It's Randy Jordan, aka Randy DeLux, and he will be putting this on that very self-same Twitter account as well as in all the other Frog Pants family places. So watch for that. Randy DeLux on Twitter for all these recommendations. If you missed any of it, he'll have
Starting point is 01:47:25 it there. Randy, have a fantastic rest of your week and wonderful vacation and we'll see you soon thank you oh and one more thank yeah yeah yeah I just kick him right out that's how I do it links links and images and all that stuff is up on quicktms dot Lee as well oh very nice did you do that or who does that I do that I do that while you and Randy are doing your recommendals like I do all four of ours just to get them up there because it offers the exact right amount of time to do that I literally can't I cannot wait until you see Severance.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I am so... I can't wait, too. Yeah, it is high up on the list. So do we know when the finale of that comes out? Well, the finale, I think it's still a couple episodes away, but it airs on Thursday nights. Okay. I can't find total episodes.
Starting point is 01:48:15 We might start it, because we're not going to be watching anything this weekend, we might start watching it as soon as we finish Insecure. I think we've got three episodes left of Insecure, which is the series finale. I'm going to throw one more recommendal kind of thing out there because I've recommended the show before, but the finale, final season just finished up. Afterlife, Ricky Jervase, Afterlife. Oh, yeah. I heard great things.
Starting point is 01:48:39 I've never, didn't see it. God, it might be one of the best things I've ever seen Ricky Chervase doing, which is hard to say because the English office was so good. But it's... I like Derek. Well, I like it, because I really like Derek. You'll like it. If you like Derek, you'll absolutely like Afterlife. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I shall watch it. That's another one I've been wanting to watch. Confirm, nine episodes total, so there are two left. It's Thursday and then next week. So you're two away. You could probably start it and feel comfortable, you know, getting through it. The other thing I was trying to dance around, and I really didn't need to, it's part of the premise. When these people go to work and they get in an elevator, they don't know anything about their life outside of work.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And when they go through that elevator going down and going home, anything that happened at work, they don't remember. they only know their personal life. So that's the whole conceit. I don't know if I knew that already, but I think you alluded enough to that with the whole, like, you know, they have a thing that makes them separate their work life and home life. Yeah. It's literally like a surgical thing that they have to agree to.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Like, it's, at least initially, it's, you know, you consent to it. And it's only if you consent to it. It's what happens after that that things get, real nuts. Anyway. Right. I love it. Cool. Love it. Love it. All right. Real quick here, an email. Conspiracy email. Hold on. We got... Ooh, I love it. I got music for this. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Okay, here we go. Hase... Hays Space Audity and Black Star. Oh, look at that. The Bowie reference there. This is Rishi B in Ann Arbor, Michigan. We know him. He says, you'll never guess the latest COVID research that I, not those fools
Starting point is 01:50:22 that the CDC came up with. He says in 1999, David Bowie made a Microsoft and Dreamcast game called Omicron. We should all have known. Bowie was behind this all along. China Girl clearly recounts his exploits in the Wuhan Lab. This YouTube link is to the intro. If you jump in 55 seconds, you get to the chorus of Bowie's theme song.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Rishi B from Ann Arbor, Michigan. So I'm going to play this. Can you play it with the... It's probably going to play China Girl, which is I'm sure YouTube will have a field day with that. They might. Here's what I'm going to do to kind of ensure things. So YouTube is going to get paused. Sorry if you're watching this on YouTube, but you're being paused. I'm jumping ahead. 55, he said? 55 seconds, correct. All right, here we go. Let's just see what this yields. We are the bad, hillous lovers. I am a blind man who leaves my eyes. I'm crying
Starting point is 01:51:21 You didn't feel us coming If there's no background It's always time Do you remember him making a video game? I don't remember this. No, I don't remember that at all So is this something from the video game I thought this was
Starting point is 01:51:33 I thought we were going to hear China Girl I did too I did too This is a game Oh my cron Stop This is the
Starting point is 01:51:41 Omicron So this is some Kind of lousy looking now 3D looking thing I don't remember this game at all I remember Peter Gabriel making video games, but not Bowie. Yeah, he, oh yeah, that's right. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:51:57 It was like a secret world or something. It was more of like a mist style, navigate around a weird world, and then, um, uh, open doors and unlocked puzzles and stuff like that. And did it have his music in it, I assume? Probably did. Yeah, it was all centered around us, if I remember correctly. Well, and this one was also spelled Om Ekron with a K. Right. But, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:20 of course, David Bowie would try to hide it with a misspelling. Of course he would. Yeah, I mean, that's a David Bowie thing. Yeah. All right, confirmed. Thank you for that email. You can send your emails to the morning stream at gmail.com. I want to thank Alisa, Mark Jackson, and Jason Miller
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Starting point is 01:53:07 Mark, Jason, and Elisa. They're out there. Frogpants.com slash TMS is our website. You can email us at the morning stream at g-mail.com. That's the morning stream. at gmail.com and uh give our reddit page a look we put all kinds of stuff up there including show post for every day of the of the tms show oh my gosh you got see this bowie moment what the frick you know what i'll share this i'll share this with the undiscord uh at this mark
Starting point is 01:53:32 sorry caught me on cool yeah sure it just went what the time stamp yeah okay here it is that's that's really weird i don't know what to make of it but um all right here you go it's uh discord now there you go there it is never heard of this weird ass game uh It's like he took over Tron or something. I don't know what's happening. Totally. It's lawnmower Bowie. Yeah, lawnmower Bowie, the worst bowie.
Starting point is 01:53:55 All right. That's it. Let's get out of here. Do you have a musical selection to play? Oh, it totally is a lawnmower boy. Ew. Yeah, I like it. Joshua Paulson wrote in and said,
Starting point is 01:54:06 I heard you're lacking in a birthday request, and I wanted to ask for one from my birthday. It was on March 12th, but I figured I would try anyway since I heard you're in need. Could you play a radio head cover by Sarah Jarosh? She does an excellent version, or Jeroz. I should know that because that's Hungary and the S-Z thing. She does an excellent version of The Tourist,
Starting point is 01:54:25 if not any radio head cover will do. Regardless, thanks for taking the time to read. Love the show. Thanks for the amazing years of listening. P.S. shout-out to those of us who still listen on SoundCloud. Jury made a fun comment about us the other week. In the Cloud's signed Joshua. Nice.
Starting point is 01:54:41 So you're the one who's still listening on SoundCloud, Joshua. That's awesome. Well, technically you all are. You just don't know it because that's where I store files. But there are some of you who go straight there. And that's fine, too. What if you want. This is great. So Sarah Geroz released this on her 2011 album. Follow me down. It is a cover of Radioheads, The Tourist. Oh, let's play this. Oops, that's still David Bowie. Let me get rid of that. All right. That's going to do it for us. Thank you all for being here. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll see you then. It works and all
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